Re: David Cantwell
In a message dated 1/13/99 1:31:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone have his email address? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
dummy. If his *primary* motivation for selling tons of CDs and concert tickets was to make as much money as possible, he surely wouldn't be sellin' his stuff so cheap. As Jon sez, most likely he's after the fame that goes with the record numbers. If he just wanted the bucks, he could easily be making more than he is now.--don He could be making more money "now", yes. But I think Garth is a little more forward thinking than that. As you say, he ain't no business dummy. He knows that the image of him being a *good guy* and *for the fans* is one that will keep him in favor with audiences despite all the horrible stuff that people (like me g) say about him. And if your fame continues to rise, or at his level at least stays steady, he's still earning a pretty damn good living. Or perhaps maybe Garth does it just because he loves us all so much. Just like he says over and over. I can't believe I got pulled into yet another argument about Garth and hot country? Why do I fall for these things? I'm my own worst enemy. ack. Nie wieder. steve
Re: AAA/Johnny Cash
The label had used the same photo (and ad concept) once before in a trade magazine, with Johnny's middle finger aimed at AAA radio.--don Ouch, that's kinda biting the hand that feeds it, huh? Thanks for telling me that. I still think Johnny is a stud though.
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
I think you're missing Jon's point. The Garthman has been selling his CDs for considerably lower than what he could undoubtedly get for them. He's been doing the same with his concert tickets for quite some time. He could easily be making more money from sales than he is right now if he stopped the considerable discounting of his recordings and concert tickets. Whatever else you wanna say about Garth, he ain't no business dummy. If his *primary* motivation for selling tons of CDs and concert tickets was to make as much money as possible, he surely wouldn't be sellin' his stuff so cheap. As Jon sez, most likely he's after the fame that goes with the record numbers. If he just wanted the bucks, he could easily be making more than he is now.--don I don't care if Garth Brooks has an ego the size of Montana, selling CDs at that price and charging those kind of ticket prices is a good thing for his fans. If Bruce Springsteen or Randy Newman want to sell their new box sets at Garth Brooks-like prices, I wouldn't complain. And I'd even buy those. While we're at it, let's price those "Beg, Scream, Shout" and "Nuggets" box sets down there too. Jon W. said: OK, consider it stricken, but with none of those things - err...uhh... except for old P2 printouts - can you sell the item in question and still retain a reasonably faithful, functional copy thereof (and why the issue gets sharper as home recording technologies improve). Jon makes a good point here. If a person with a CDR burner takes his good powers (making cool compilations, trading live recordings with fans who will buy all the artist's commercially released output and pay to see live performances) and turns evil and starts making CDRs of commercial releases, it seems like it could significantly hurt an artist from a financial standpoint. I can buy a car or a Van Gogh (well, not really) and sell it to another party but just the buyer gets the item for their use or enjoyment from the time when the tranaction takes place. CDs can be different if a person is dishonest and has a CDR burner. They can conceivably buy a Del McCoury CD, burn a CDR, and then sell the CD (as well as numerous CDRs to people who want to save a buck). I can't replicate a car or Van Gogh for a fraction of the cost, keep the almost exact replication, and then sell the the car or Van Gogh. I don't believe this is much of a problem now but it seems like it could be as soon as more and more people get CDR burners as the price keeps dropping. In the case of CDs, the CDR is not just a reasonably, functional copy, I think most people would be hard-pressed to notice any difference from a sound standpoint. As for people who buy a commercially released CD and decide to sell it, I see no problem with that whatsoever. That becomes the equivalent of the sale of any other second-hand item. The new recording technology does make the issue more complex than before however. -John
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999, Steve Gardner wrote: Or perhaps maybe Garth does it just because he loves us all so much. Just like he says over and over. Don't get me wrong -- I don't think Garth so loves the world that He gave us lower CD and concert prices. No matter how you slice it, he's makin' tons of money. Still, I'd have to agree with Jon that the Garthman's primary motivation seems to be the fame of record-breaking numbers, rather than making every possible dollar that he can. With his level of popularity, he could be making much more if he were so inclined.--don
Re: If you ran into Garth with your car...
Used CDs are fine as long as the artist and/or label is hurting less financally than you are. That's pretty good. Hey Matt, you should write a book similar to that Steve Earle In Quotes thing. I'd buy it. You know, I would too come to think of it. I gotta admit that in earlier times, I had big problems with Matt and some of the things he said on P2. But of late, I'd swear much of his writing has taken on some sort of haiku or koan-type quality (those are those Buddhist sayings like "what's the sound of one hand clapping...?", if I'm remembering correctly...) So anyway, yeah, I'd buy a book of your quotes too, Matt. Wasn't Purcell keeping a collection of 'em anyway? I've actually saved a few of them I think, but I save a lot of weird stuff. Dan p.s. here's one I saved, because it was so damn typical of my daily life: "I know more than I am remembering." (Matt Cook, 1998)
RE: the Handleman eight day week?
Even if it takes trickery, as in the case of the Handleman eight day week for sound scam purposes How in the heck does that work? That's just so curious... They were on a different reporting week than most retailers - Friday to Friday as opposed to Sunday to Sunday, something like that. They shifted over right at the time Double Live came out, and so sales (all sales, not just Double Lives) were reported for an extra-long "week" - e.g., Friday to the Sunday following the next Friday. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
p2 webpage
On 11 Jan 99 at 22:39, Mike Hays wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:39:06 -0500 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Mike Hays" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:"passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big Thoughts and Grammy's X-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lets get going on this webpage and with the right focus do something positive to promote the artists that are struggling to be heard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lastunicorn.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe we could start such a Twang Association? All it takes is a little organization. Seems like the P2 website might be a good place to start. Let's get busy on this. Count me in. The Gavin folks might be interested in this. They've been the only trade rag to get behind the music and of course you got No Dep. Come to think of it, with the right promotion, you'll turn this into the latest thing and some a**hole corporate types will come in and Wall will have to let loose a stream of twang venom so fierce that they'll never again even think about pissing on a twang artist again. Mike Hays np: Hank Williams Move it on Over on TwangCast NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Jon makes a good point here. If a person with a CDR burner takes his good powers (making cool compilations, trading live recordings with fans who will buy all the artist's commercially released output and pay to see live performances) and turns evil and starts making CDRs of commercial releases, it seems like it could significantly hurt an artist from a financial standpoint. Haven't we heard this one before? As in: Home taping is killing music. NW
Re: Another Krazy Kat compilation (was Re: Lone Justice/FremeauxCountry Boogie Alert
And that reminds me -- I don't think I've yet mentioned the latest compilation from Krazy Kat, titled Nite Spot Blues. Out of all their collections of old western swing, country boogie and honky tonk, this one may be my favorite-don Well thanks back for that tip! I'll be wqtachibng for that one too. Barry
Re: Watermelon Records
All this Watermellon talk... If they still are listening... Pay The Gourds. They still haven't gotten any royalties. --Matt Cook
Steve Earle McCoury Band NYC--and SXSW
Well, New Yorkers and others...I see where Mr. Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band will be appearing at Town Hall under Tramps' aegis onSaturday March 20, 8:30PMTickets are on sale via Tramps and Ticketmaster ($20/$25--with seats, no doubt). This will be very exciting news for people around here who, unlike me, will not be at SXSW that Saturday night. So, a question for anyone with the Secret Knowledge: Is there a chance in hell this bill will play SXSW sometime Wed. through Thursday. Please do not inform me if the answer is "Sure--Sunday Night!"--by which I gotta be gone. Maybe general tour dates for these guys are now known, meanwhile. Barry.
Re: Rocky Mountain High
On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, stuart wrote: *"Cowgirl Dreams" by Joni Harms (Warner Western): While this disc This is the first mention I recall seeing about this. What's the skinny? Looks promising to me, even if it does lack metal coffee cups. Nice record..nothing to go crazy about, but it's alright. Unfortunately, it's very very short. I bought the record mostly to support this native Oregonian. We've booked her for late January as well. I'll have a better feel then. Think there's a write-up in People magazine recently about her. JC
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Don Yates wrote: . Still, I'd have to agree with Jon that the Garthman's primary motivation seems to be the fame of record-breaking numbers, rather than making every possible dollar that he can. With his level of popularity, he could be making much more if he were so inclined.--don Maybe. Although I'm not convinced it would be significantly larger over the long term. I don't know what the elasticities are for superstar products, but my guess is volume still goes down as price rises. In addition, goodwill is an economic value, calculated in money terms when accounting business worth, and Garth has especially cultivated this--hell its practically the whole product IMHO. In addition, we see someone with enormous market power leveraging it able to command venues unavailable to others (like the Wal-Mart concert/sale), and to essentially direct a record company to serve his interests among other things. That Garth flexes these muscles is actually pretty impressive from a business point of view. I agree a lot of it is ego. Back in Minnesota Carl (no matter how rich you are, you can't buy a personality) Pohlad, and Somebody (I forget his first name) Carlson were by far the two richest men in the state, but competed fiercely to be the richest, even though each has more money than several generations can consume. But Im digressing. In sum, I think Garth, being a businessman, is looking at fame yes, but his eye is on maximizing income too. And I think he's got a winning strategy right now for doing just that.
Re: International Country Music Conference
Jim, are you going to this? If so, will you fill in the list about it?
David Cantwell
Anyone have his email address? Cantwell, if you're out there, please contact me. Phone or email is fine. Jeff Copetas ~ Tar Hut RecordsP.O. Box 441940, Somerville, MA 02144www.tarhut.com ~ 617.776-5106
The Secondary Market (Was: a bunch of stuff about Garth)
Howdy, I realize that this thread has faithfully morphed into an Anti-Garth thread somehow, but if I may return to the original premise for a moment... g Garth's (and some other, less vocal, artists') statements about used CD sales represent a valid concern about royalty revenues. However, as much as I try to be in favor of artists getting paid for their creation, I find the anti-used CD stance to be a bit weak. Mainly because, economically, I've never seen it work. Attempts by members of the primary market to control the secondary market have generally had the exact opposite effect that the primary market folks hoped for. Some boring personal background-- When I was 18, I helped launch a series of magazines aimed at collectors of limited edition art figurines of various artists. Picture it as a "beany babies" culture of the late '80s. The magazines were aimed at collectors of those Emmett Kelly, Jr. clown figurines, a god-awful line of African-American themed collectibles, collectors of those gnome figurines that used to be all over Cracker Barrel gift shops until angels apparently invaded, and a general interest magazine for collectors of everything from those collectible houses (David Winter, Dept. 56) to Precious Moments and Hummels. Here's how the economy of that system worked-- Corporation mass produces figurines and sells to gift shop which sells to collector. That's your primary market. Then the secondary market kicks in. Collectors begin selling to one another. Harder to find items inflate in "value." We even printed a stock market-like chart that tracked the national trends based on regular interviews with some stores that sold "secondary market" items, highly active collectors, and assorted sources. The problem in the economy of the system kicked in when a few of the companies, tried to do one of two things. Some companies tried to influence the secondary market by purposely creating a short supply of some items. In the short term, this works, by creating a "demand" for product, big PR, lots of publicity about "popularity," etc. These companies were usually profiting under the books by selling excess stock of the selected items on the secondary market themselves. (Highly unethical and representative of the more correct usage of the term "gray market" that a record company rep was tossing about in an earlier Philclip.) Eventually, this catches up to the company. Over inflated values usually crash (Quick, anybody want to buy a beany baby? g) and the collectors either quit before this happens because they can't find the items they want or quit after the crash because they got burned. The second instance, which I think is representative of part of the used CD argument and the point of this thesis, involves companies trying to cut out the secondary market altogether. These companies did all they could to control the system and set the secondary market values themselves. Essentially, if collector A wanted to sell to collector B, he had to register the sell with the Corporation. The theory here was that the corporation (arguing familiarly that the original artist should somehow benefit from the repeated transaction) would charge a fee to handle the transaction. The end result was people didn't use the system, worked around it entirely and created a black market that could not be tracked by the company or through recognized secondary market services such as mine. In the end, the product was still traded but had become valueless commercially. I realize this isn't a direct match to the used CD argument, but I think there are some interesting lessons to learn from it all. The record companies would do just as well to find some other crusade. I think attempts to control the secondary market will only create ill will between the labels and the consumers. If the labels are truly worried about artists getting proper royalties, then perhaps they should consider raising the royalty payment on the primary transaction. I note, with interest, that book publishers tried to pick this fight once a while back with used book stores but eventually backed down. The publishers eventually took the viewpoint that they'd have to reconcile themselves to making their 40% markup on the primary transaction and let folks like Burke's in Memphis, and McKay's in Knoxville help collectors happily buy used and out-of-print books. I believe there was data to suggest that such folks actually bought more *new* books than folks who didn't buy any used books. Makes sense. I've rambled enough. I've got some new music to listen to, along with the used disc I also bought tonight. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Lone Justice, The World Is Not My Home
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Hey there, On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:08:53 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jon makes a good point here. If a person with a CDR burner takes his good powers (making cool compilations, trading live recordings with fans who will buy all the artist's commercially released output and pay to see live performances) and turns evil and starts making CDRs of commercial releases, it seems like it could significantly hurt an artist from a financial standpoint. Haven't we heard this one before? As in: Home taping is killing music. Home fucking is killing pornography. Later... CK ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Query:Archive this list?
Hey there, Jamie has an idea... I have an idea that I wanna get out before it dies of loneliness... Would it be desirable to have this list and its archives "webbified" and searchable? I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web pages. So if you can strip that off, or slap a password on the front of the whole thing that would be cool. Also remember that there is a web site or two out there (cant remember the URL) that has p2 postings (you can read them, but cannot actually post) but I dont know how far back they go. My 2 cents Later... CK NP Zappa, Gourds ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
ALEJANDRO ESCOVEDO House Concert at Pine Hill Farm on Feb 3
ALEJANDRO ESCOVEDO HOUSE CONCERT AT PINE HILL FARM ON WEDNESDAY FEB 3 AT 8PM WXDU's country radio show, Topsoil, is presenting another intimate house concert at Pine Hill Farm in Durham with country singer-songwriter and Bloodshot recording artist, Alejandro Escovedo on WEDNESDAY, February 3 at 8pm. Yes, THE Alejandro Escovedo. (If you don't know him, read below.) I'm *very* excited. Alejandro will probably be performing with a small acoustic group of just a fiddle, and possibly another guitar or a cello. That's still up in the air at this point. Tickets are now on sale. Email me quickly if you'd like to reserve a space. I usually don't do house concerts on Wednesday, but this one was just too special to pass up. The show will be out by 11:00pm at the latest, as usual, and will consist of two sets with a brief intermission to meet and greet. These concerts are organized so that we all chip in to pay the artist for the performance. We will be asking for a donation of $10 per person and you can save a spot in advance by writing Steve Gardner at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or by calling 919-304-2693. Note that the last two house concerts have sold out in a matter of a day or two, so you should respond as soon as possible if you'd like a seat. Considering the artist we are dealing with here I believe this show will sell out amazingly fast. I also have a website at http://www.topsoil.net/ that will give you information on my radio show and upcoming house concerts. ** Who is Alejandro Escovedo? Alejandro Escovedo is a lot of things rolled into one. His musical life has spanned from loud punk to a quiet acoustic intensity. Unlike many musicians though, this was not a linear transformation from loud at the beginning of his career to quiet at the end. Rather, Alejandro's strength is that he has always retained the best of any given moment of his life and continued to roll it back into his works, with amazing results. It would not be unusual for him to cover the Stooges classic punk blast of "I Wanna Be Your Dog" in a live show, and then on the next night (or possibly on the same night) play a mournful original song such as his "Last to Know" backed by cello and acoustic guitar. His diversity combined with his amazing writing, performance and energy (whether it be a "loud" song or a "quiet" one) is what made the leading alternative country magazine No Depression bestow upon him the controversial honor of "Artist of the Decade." His show at Pine Hill Farm will concentrate on the acoustic side of his material in the usual non-amplified, smoke free, setting of a living room. It is extremely rare that Alejandro will perform in this fashion for anyone in North Carolina. In fact, it may be his first. I'm happy as a politician in the arms of a page to be able to present this show to the area. Following is Alejandro Escovedo's bio in the All Music Guide at http://allmusic.com. Alejandro Escovedo's family tree includes former Santana percussionist Pete Escovedo and Pete's daughter, Sheila E (also Prince's former drummer and later a pop star). He began his music career with the Nuns, a mid-'70s punk band based in San Francisco. He co-founded the cowpunk band Rank and File in 1979, which moved to Austin, TX, in 1981 after a stint in New York City. The band released Sundown on Slash Records; shortly after, Escovedo left to form the True Believers with brother Javier. The band recorded two albums for EMI (the second was never released, a fact that eventually caused the band to break up in 1988) and toured the country, often as an opening act for Los Lobos. Escovedo released a solo album in 1992 on Watermelon Records, Gravity, uniting his wide variety of styles; the album was produced by Stephen Bruton of Bonnie Raitt's band. After 1996's With These Hands, he also began recording with the group Buick MacKane. -- John Bush, All-Music Guide Note: Since that review was written Alejandro released a record on Bloodshot Records that was a compilation of some of his live material from the mid 90s. This record "More Miles Than Money: Live 1994-1996" made my list of the top 20 records of the year. ** What and where is Pine Hill Farm? Pine Hill Farm is the name of a ranch house in Durham a few miles north of Chapel Hill. (directions below) I started up these house concerts with one of the members of that household, Bill Tolbert. Together we try to bring the music that we want to see to town. Pine Hill Farm presents shows in a totally acoustic setting, meaning no amplification. The shows are held in the living room and the acoustics are wonderful. There is no better way to see a show. Directions: To get to Pine Hill Farm, take Exit 266 from I-40 onto 86N (a.k.a. Airport Rd). Go right on Mt. Sinai Rd. and after 2.5 miles, take a left onto Murphy School Rd. The house is down the second driveway on the right - park on Murphy School Rd. past the driveway and enjoy. Remember to get your house concert tickets
NP: Lone Justice
Howdy, NP: Lone Justice, This World Is Not My Home Dear sweet mother of all that is twang! Good gracious but I'm in heaven. I am having sudden and wonderful flashbacks to life in the Memphis State University dorm and the first time a friend of mine put a tape in my tape player and said, "I think you'll like this..." All that's missing to my taste is "Soap, Soup, and Salvation." I could have done without Bono, though. Pretentious ass that he is. (Slam Garth all you want, here's the true source of all evil...) I am suddenly remembering debates in junior high over the longevity of competing careers. I sided with Cyndi Lauper over Madonna and INXS over U2. Anybody want to show me how to work this Beta machine? But I digress. NP: Lone Justice, This World Is Not My Home Lord, but this makes me smile. Take care, Shane Rhyne Heaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Lone Justice, This World Is Not My Home
Knoxville Shows -- Jan and Feb
Howdy, Here's an updated listing for Jan.-Feb. in the Scruffy City. Note some new additions, including P2's favorite Rangers, and Bare Jr., Freight Hoppers, and others... Knoxville, TN Chuck Brodsky, Karen Reynolds -- January 15 -- Bird's Eye View Finnegan's aWake -- January 15 -- Laurel Theater Gran Torino January 15 Moose's Music Hall Mustafa and Mystic Meditations January 15 Knoxville Museum of Art Audio Poolside, Martha's Thirst January 16 Bird's Eye View Adam Hill and Greg Siedschlag January 16 Tomato Head Greg Horne's Exploding Band January 16 Manhattan's The Skillet Lickers II January 16 Laurel Theater Ralph Stanley, Tony Rice Group (w/Sammy Shelor, Dan Tyminski, Ricky Ronnie Simpkins), and the Nashville Bluegrass Band-- January 16 -- Tennessee Theatre Greg Horne January 21 Borders Books Music Blues Blasters January 22 Knoxville Museum of Art Delbert McClinton -- January 22 -- Tennessee Theatre Roux du Bayou January 22 Laurel Theater Big Ass Truck January 23 Moose's Music Hall Iris Dement -- January 23 -- Bird's Eye View Freight Hoppers -- January 23 -- Laurel Theater Greg Horne's Exploding Band January 23 Hawkeye's Varnaline January 26 Tomato Head Junior Brown -- January 29 -- Bijou Theatre Phil Leadbetter, Richard Bennett and Friends January 29 Laurel Theater Nancy Brennan Strange January 29 Knoxville Museum of Art Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Brian Lee February 2 Knoxville Civic Auditorium Son Volt, Alvin Youngblood Hart -- February 2 -- Bijou Theatre Bobby Blue Bland February 4 Bijou Theater Bill Mize and Martha Jacobs February 5 Laurel Theater Brian Setzer Orchestra, Bare Jr. February 6 Tennessee Theater Lantana Drifters, Danny Gammon, All Over the Road February 6 Laurel Theater One Riot One Ranger February 11 Bird's Eye View Wishing Chair February 11 Laurel Theater Eddie from Ohio -- February 12 -- Bird's Eye View Ray Charles -- February 13 -- Knoxville Civic Coliseum Willie Nelson R.B. Morris -- February 13 -- Tennessee Theatre Edward's Canvas Tent February 19 Laurel Theater Steve Kaufman February 20 Laurel Theater Dale Ann Bradley and Coon Creek February 26 Laurel Theater Will Keys and the Mumbillies February 27 Laurel Theater Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Lone Justice, This World Is Not My Home
Re: banjo envy...
N.D. review of Sara Evans - No Place That Far (RCA) : " Just a simple question: Why sign artists if you're going to insist they play so far away from their strengths? - Grant Alden (that's the entire review) In a message dated 99-01-13 08:46:34 EST, you write: I did finally get Sara Evan's 3 Chords The Truth, and tho I can't seem to get past staring at the cover (goodnight, Alice, but she's good lookin!), the music inside is pretty damn good all the way around. What's the word on the latest of hers? I'm sure it's been discussed, but.. Behind the curve, Matt
Re: p2 webpage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lets get going on this webpage and with the right focus do something positive to promote the artists that are struggling to be heard. I'll do what i can to help but my hands are a little full right now with the launch and further development and fine tuning of TwangCast.com and RealCountry.net, the netcast outlet for RealCountry and more. Let me know how I can contribute. Mike Hays np: Ghost Rockets on TwangCast, New White House Blues NOW ONLINE, www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry netcast 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net
Re: Query:Archive this list?
In a message dated 1/13/99 9:56:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web pages. I have to agree with CK on this one. I get enough mail from nuts as it is. Deb
RE: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Garth and Madonna are both very clever at promotion, marketing, image and giving the masses what they want. Whether that's "art" or not is disputable, yet I'm sure they believe it to be. It's really just pop music I guess. at least Madonna has nice tits. So therefore I would be more inclined to suffer through a Madonna show than a Garth one. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Haven't we heard this one before? As in: Home taping is killing music. Home fucking is killing pornography. So THAT's what my wife is doing. Supporting the Porn Industry. Cause there damn sure aint no fucking going on in our home. At least not involving me. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Re: Query:Archive this list?
Howdy, CK: I would prefer not to have my e-mail address out there on a buncha web pages. Deb: I have to agree with CK on this one. I get enough mail from nuts as it is. Fortunately for Deb, Jeff Wall is shipping out to sea in April... Badum-bum. Thank you, thank you very much. Seriously though, I think part of the beauty of this list is that it isn't necessarily publicly available. I think most of us feel a little freer to express ourselves with the knowledge that whatever missives we send will find its way to a limited audience, rather than the entire internet system. Of course, there's always the possibility of publicizing the fluff channel... Take care, Shane Rhyne, working late Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Lone Justice, "Don't Toss Us Away"
Re: Kasten On Cry, Cry, Cry
At 09:21 AM 1/13/99 -0800, you wrote: Have I told y'all how much I like the new David Olney album?g--don I like it too. Is David some kind of folk superhero? I've been aquainted with him for years, I knew he wroye songs, but hell, everyone in Nashville writes songs. He's a nice guy btw, but I haven't run into him in a couple of years. ANyone got conatact info? He might be a good interview, Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Howdy, Jeff Wall: So THAT's what my wife is doing. Supporting the Porn Industry. Cause there damn sure aint no fucking going on in our home. At least not involving me. And yet, strangely, the best word to describe Jeff's condition in this situation is... fucked. Take care, Shane Rhyne Knoxville, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] NP: Lone Justice, Lone Justice (I dug out the older disc...)
Re: Postcard2 top ten list
At 02:54 PM 1/13/99 -0500, you wrote: I'm knew to the list so I was wondering if someone could post the past top ten list of the postcard2 list, I am curious to see what's on it. Thanks, I think lovely Stacey has a copy up on the Hellcountry site at http://www.hellcountry.com If not, It's also up on the Twangzine Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 727 Alder Circle - Va Beach, Va - 23462 -(757) 467-3764
Re: If Garth was a used rounder
Well, you could say that Skaggs did; it's fairly well-known that the deal with Rounder was concluded after a prospective deal with Sugar Hill fell through - in fact, the latter had made it into print at one point. Don't remind me. :^) I don't know what you mean by "into print" though. I mean a story was published reporting the Skaggs Family Records/Sugar Hill deal as an accomplished fact; I'm pretty sure I remember which publication, but since I'm not positive and don't have the time to leaf through back issues, I'm not going to ID it. Sugar Hill's deal with Ricky Skaggs was done. I remember sitting in a meeting at Rounder's office the day Rounder made the 11th hour snatch of the album from Sugar Hill and we were all sitting there looking at the matchprints and the films of the Skaggs record art with Sugar Hill's logo all over the thing - the art was already done! The only thing they changed was the logos. I specifically remember someone in "upper management" saying, and I quote, "Sugar Hill's not gonna be happy about this." Oh, the stories. I don't know if there was bad blood about it between the two labels, but that's the truth..
Dreams, Jeff Wall, and SXSW
I figured that heading would get some attention. Last night I dreamed that Jeff Wall came to stay at my house in order to be at a concert in my back yard. He was , but intrusive guest. Other folks were trespassing on my property and would not leave, and he would not help me get rid of them. I don't remember who was playing the concert. As a card-carrying Behaviorist I aviod dream interpretation, but I must attribute this one to several things: thinking about Twangfest, accepting my first reservation for a crasher at SXSW, and Nyquil. Weird. Slim - np Alison Moorer, who I want to dream about.
The Press Network -- Tour Dates
FYI - David Olney's tour dates. http://www.pressnetwork.com/tourdt.htm
Re: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's amazing that Garth Books has any time, or brain, left to make music. He seems to be completely obsessed with making as much moeny as he possibly can, obsessed, possessed, it ain't healthy. How much money does one recording artist need to make? We'd all like to have a little piece of Garths's pie, it'd be nice to pay bills and buy a car, and get a decent haircut once in awhile, but geeze, if you've got more money than you can count, why not leave the little used CD stores alone. I think that in Garth's case it is not about money at all anymore. It is strictly 'stats' if you will. He is doing everything he can to break this record or that record. Even if it takes trickery, as in the case of the Handleman eight day week for sound scam purposes. Or using pricing that is way below industry standards to inflate the numbers, as with the box set or with the live set (this was initially offered at a 25% discount from the label) or with his concerts (last time through here he charged %25 to play the local arena, sold it out 4 times, when groups of that stature are charging 3-4 times that much) Now please don't think that I have a problem with lowering prices. I would love it. I just want to point out that he is willing to lose money in order to top the Beatles or Pearl Jam or somebody's meaningless statistic. Bill Lavery http://villagerecords.com/
RE: If you ran into Garth with a used CD in a dark alley.....
Of course he is in it for the money! Of course, it is just a guess and my opinion, blah blah blah. Why do you think he wants to sell the maximum number of CDs? Um, for the fame? You know, being number 1, etc. Of course, it's just a guess, but it wouldn't surprise me if running reasonable numbers showed him making more money at $24 a copy of Double Live, and $50 or more for the boxed set. And consider the discussed-at-length things like the Soundscan reporting week shift when Double Live debuted, or whether to count the CDs in the boxed set as separate units; those things don't make any difference as far as the money in his pocket goes, but they do make a difference as far as fame does. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
