Re: Burning London, the Clash tribute album
I read the list of artists to appear on this a lil' while back and was pretty horrified...you've now confirmed my suspicions... morgan At 10:55 AM 4/29/99 -0700, you wrote: I know I was going on the other day about how dated the Clash sound nowadays, but jeez, they certainly didn't deserve this abominable "tribute" album. It kicks off with a cheesy rendition of "Hateful" from No Doubt and then gets worse. The Urge's version of "This Is Radio Clash" is laughable, Ice Cube should never, ever have attempted "Should I Stay Or Should I Go," Third Eye Blind do a typically faceless, limp version of "Train In Vain," the Indigo Girls transform "Clampdown" into gag-inducing coffeehouse f*lk, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones sound like they're goin' through the motions on "Rudie Can't Fail," 311 turn "White Man In Hammersmith Palais" into harmless pop-ska, Silverchair do what sounds like a Spinal Tap parody of "London's Burning," and Heather Nova and Moby join forces for a sparse piano-and-synth dirge version of "Straight to Hell." Rising above the stink are the Clash-inpired Rancid's gutsy, straightforward version of "Cheat," and Cracker's countrified version of "White Riot." Otherwise, this "tribute" album has to be one of the worst tribute albums ever released by a major label. Blech!--don
Re: CST Clip - Kelly Willis/Bruce Robison at JD's Last Night
Kate: Here's what you missed if you weren't at JD's! Both were excellent, but, Bruce's songwriting and singing is killer. "Desperately" still being my favorite on "Wrapped." Kelly dipped back into her repertoire for "River of Love" (shout from moi!) which she said they hadn't been doing for a while and was her favorite by ex-h, Mas Palermo. It was one of the best shows I've been to this past year...Bruce and Kelly were both in top form. Both have unbelievable pipes! Almost tempted to hike out to western Mass. tonight...hmmm. Morgan
Re: Wilco @ Pearl Street
Bill comments: And really, for me, that sort of sums it up. Abstaining Tom caught these details about these guys, and I wonder how much patience on-the-wagon Tweedy needed to have with these obnoxious idiots. If the club can't take steps to quiet, or remove drunken-stupid patrons who are disrupting the performance, I can't blame the performer for getting pissed-off enough about it to "break character", so to speak. Missed alot of the thread, but stood, oh about 5 feet to the right of the Ottawa crew... Tweedy was actually quite tolerant for the whole show...as they were buggin' the shit out of him from the end of the set opener to the end of the second encore... I felt bad for him. Heck, he was even trying to be kind to them (he mentioned earlier in the show that they had travelled quite a bit to get to the show, etc...) He looked a little vulnerable up there to boot (as he really didn't seem to know what to do about them). So, as Tom had mentioned, Jeff finally snapped and just stopped the number as the threesome demanded quite loudly that they should speed up "New Madrid", scolded them proper and launched into a blues tinged slow burn rendition...Funny. So, to address your last statement Bill...I agree. He was more than justified... Morgan "However, I do wish Mr. Tweedy looked like he wanted to play for us folks that paid $17.50 a pop"
Re: Wilco @ Pearl Street
jr. "on the money" It has struck me that Tweedy has gotten to be much more of an attitude performer as the years have rolled on. In UT, he was quite the ray of sunshine and the entertaining one compared to Farrar, and he continued to have an entertainer's approach and worked his intrinsic charm during the early Wilco tours. Last couple of years, however, as best I've been able to observe it, he has definitely caught the artiste bug, in terms of his performance style. Which is too bad. I infinitely prefer performers who come out and do their best to "entertain" the audience. Looking like you want to play is part of the job, as I figure it I couldn't agree more...even if you're not a "showy" sort, a bit of passion would be nice. g But isn't performing live designed to entertain? Recorded material is one animal and playing it for folks is a way to highten the experience, a connection process if you will... When it's seemingly just a case of "going through the motions" for the performer, it automatically devalues that writer for me (or at least turns me a little cold for a spell)... I'm not pointing to Tweedy specifically either, if anyone in that position doesn't like what they do, or doesn't know anymore, or whatever, don't do it for a bit...Take some time off and kick back. Man, we've all had bad gigs, but shit, ain't this rock n' roll stuff supposed to be fun? morgan
Re: Wilco @ Pearl Street
Neal: I dunno tho, sure he might be more the artiste nowadays, but I still think he tends to be very charming onstage. At least I've never seem him be anything but. I even saw him do an acoustic performance once in LA before AM came out where he was sick from bad Mexican food. He had to excuse himself more than once to use the facilities, much to the amusement of Jay Bennet. And more recently, on the Golden Smog tour, he was bar far the most charismatic performer on that stage. Well, that's good to hear...he doesn't seem like a bad bloke at all, and I hope some of these recent observations are just arbitary instances... His music is reaching far wider audiences now more than ever, he's got some big tours this summer, etc. That shouldn't be the key to happiness or anything, but it'd be nice to see him enjoy a bit of his success... morgan
Re: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s
Matthew Ryanyes, yes, yes. I dunno how this escaped so many people's radar (I was lucky to hear about him a little ahead of hte curve because of Neal). Lots of good reviews, and I bet it sold 10 copies. Indeed! What an amazing album! Every damn song on it knocks me out... "Guilty" Morgan
Re: weird Muzak experiences
At 08:44 AM 4/15/99 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: I would gladly lend you $100 except that I just sent every penny I had to the IRS, plus a IOU which I hope they will accept in good humour. I think we should take a P2 poll - find out a.) who's paying this year; and b.) who got or is getting a refund. People in Category b.) can buy the drinks tonight. Reluctantly here...got money back. I believe I owe Benz and Purcell a few drinks in St. Louis, so that return should come in handy... g Morgan
Re: Clip == Review of Cash Tribute on TNT, Sun 8pm
Per Slim: I am a slow and ongoing convert to the pro-Crow contingent, fighting tooth and nail all the way. However, I saw part of her "Storytellers" on VH-1 and she said "If It Makes You Happy" was originally written as a country song, and was rocked out in the studio for the record. She then proceded to play it as a country song, including a sweet pedal steel sound. By God, it worked. I saw that too and really liked the live treatment on that song vs. the recorded version. Hell, she mentioned liking the Louvin brothers to boot! She can't be all that bad... Morgan
RE: Mandy Barnet, again
The one thing that makes me wish I'd been there in person was that when they came back from the last break, they - Shaffer and Barnett's backup - were just finishing up "Last Date," and I'd like to have heard that. Me too... I just found out that my buddy was there for the show last night... I'll have to hit him up for info. this weekend morgan
Re: Cereal Wars
Appearances on: Soul Asylum, Uncle Tupelo, Maria McKee, Counting Crows, Joe Henry, Victoria Williams, John Hiatt, Wallflowers, Roger McGuinn, Pistoleros, Golden Smog . . . -jim Hey Jim, sorry, I was signed off for the night... Pistoleros? I haven't heard of them... Decent material? Morgan
Re: Web capo museum
At 05:27 PM 4/13/99 -0700, you wrote: At 04:48 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrote: At 02:18 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrot No lie, it's at http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86505074/capomuseum/index.htm . Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ You certainly weren't, were you... Have to admit, it was pretty darned interesting. Partial to the Shubb myself, but our guitarist just picked up the "Parrot" which has caught my eye. Kind of a mutant Jimmy Buffet thing...g It's a capo, as in guitar thingee? Damn, I was hoping it was about the Mob. Jeff *goofy grin* morgan
Re: SOTD
Jeff said: The thread *isn't* the sideperson kept on the payroll because he/she is sleeping with the boss. Geez Jeff, you're evil, evil, evil. g Morgan
Re: Weller's Prime
Once again Jerry is wrong! This is too easy. Like shooting MPBs on the fluff list. Scritti Politti is another fine, fine band from Leeds. They were formed in the British punk rock movement of the late 70s, but moved into a much more poppier, soulful sound in the 80s. And I really think it worked for them. Cupid Psyche 85 is one of my more favorite lps from that time. I still love to listen to *Perfect Way* and *Pray Like Arethea Franklin*. I'm again late in joining this...but what the hey? Marie, couldn't agree more... Loved that album! "Perfect Way" was a darned close to perfect single... It was a lush, very well produced and well written body of songs... And I believe that this isn't the first time that Scritti Politti has come up on this list. Interesting. g morgan
Re: The perfect single (was Re: Weller's Prime)
Andy picked: Since you brought it up here are a few alternative suggestion for the perfect single. Pogues Kirsty MacColl - Fairy tale of New York Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love Only Ones - Another girl, another planet Joy Division - Atmosphere All damned good singles. Partial to the first two and most partial to the Buzzcocks! Now that's a single! Caught them, hmm, 89 maybe? in Boston. Great show! They still had it without a doubt! Morgan
Re: Over here and overheated
The basic problem stems from the punk era. Up until the late 80s at least UK music reporting was dominated by two weekly papers, Melody Maker and New Musical Express (the 'inkies' as they're known as against the 'glossies' or monthly music magazines). Both they, and the UK music industry as a whole, were late in catching on to punk and they have vowed never again to be caught out like that. So their subsequent history has been the endless frenzied search for The Next Big Thing, which means they're open to any record company hype. The apotheosis of this (I wish I could say it was the nadir but there's probably a lot worse to come) was Britpop. If you thought Oasis were crap (and they do have a couple of good tunes) you should see some of the other absolute garbage they've tried to foist on us. They have, however, been found out and their circulations are plummeting, (while those of the glossies are rising) which of course only encourages even more desperate searching for the next 'movement' they can hitch themselves to. There are many reasons why I thank God (or at least would do so in more than a metaphorical sense if I believed in Her) I like country music. Being completely ignored as a result by all the mainstream media in the UK is one of them. Just think how good country might be in the US if it wasn't just so damned *popular*. -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Thanks for the background Iain... Interesting how this industry is so darned transparent across the board? We've got pretty much the same scenario here but with just a couple of different twists to the plot thrown in. Thank god for the grass roots movements... morgan
RE: Cereal Wars
"McJob", say it loud and say it proud! Chris owner of all Doug Coupland's books Oops, sorry Chris, missed this yesterday... MCJOB Morgan "re-read "Life After God" recently and loved it just the same"
Re: Douglas Coupland and Shaver
At 03:22 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Morgan Keating wrote: Morgan "re-read "Life After God" recently and loved it just the same" Ah my absolute funnest author to read. Here's my Douglas Coupland order of things: 1.) Generation X 2.) Girlfriend in a Coma 3.) Microserfs 4.) Life After God 5.) Shampoo Planet 6.) never read: (Postcards from the Dead). -Jim He is great fun, 'eh? Haven't read Postcards either nor Girlfriend or Microserfs for that matter... Hmmm, looks like I've got a few more titles to tag onto the list... Gen X is pretty damned great! morgan twang content: Electric Shaver comes out in two weeks? Correct?? you know, i think so, but my bloody awful memory ain't what she used to be...
RE: the sidemen thread, singles, ect...
At 03:36 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: I confess to not being able to follow the thread much, so never mind if I'm off base. Just pickin those nits. Ah, not a problem... As for singles, there is a pretty good book (by David Marsh?) of best singles (rock and pop) and it is a -of course completely subjective listing of great singles and why. A good read, inspires you to go back and listen to say "Ticket To Ride" again... That sounds like a good one... I like Marsh to boot for the most part... 'Ceptin maybe for "Glory Days"... He was officially on the Springsteen payroll aside from the book commision, yes? No slam on Bruce though...love him. Singles generally conjure up time and place, particulary summer singles, so of course to pick the best means to pull together not just perfect musical moments, but personal moments as well and combine em for a swell experience. "It's So Nice To Be With You" qualifies for me, tho the song ain't so hot. I still can't hear it without hearing the crackling sounds of the 45 we had. But you're all talking punk and new wave singles, ain't ya? Lords of the New Church: Open Your Eyes, 1983. No, you're right on the money on that one... Please don't kill me folks, but going with what you were saying Matt, I vividly recall hearing "Stone(d) in Love" by Journey one particular summer. Great summer and I guess I just associate it in a "Wonder Years" type reverie... I remember destroying my Apple 45 of "Hey Jude" backed by "Revolution" (if I recall) from far too many plays... Another song I associate with summer...or Steve Earle's "I Feel Alright", it was all over a Boston station at the time and I picked up the record the night before my wife delivered...The song just brings me back... New wave single: Talk Talk-It's My Life morgan -Original Message- From:Morgan Keating [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:43 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: the sidemen thread Well, I suppose...but I think the general rule to the voting process was that there really weren't any? True, a band doesn't fit the desription of "sidemen", but what the hey? A nod to the godesses...what about sidewomen? Not sure where you're going with the whole pay issue? But, I guess it'll be something for the powers that be to decide. g Either way, 'tis not a big deal, just me 2 cents... morgan At 01:08 PM 4/14/99 -0400, you wrote: FOlks counting the Jayhawks, or even the Hawks as sidemen are kinda missing the albeit very fine point. They're backing bands, more than they are sidemen, who are folks like Jon W. mentioned, and Glen Campbell, Leon Russell, Hal Blaine, etc.. folks hired to fill out the sound of a recording session, not friends of the artist who are part of a particular scene, like the Jayhawks. They may put their own particular styles and sound into the recording, and are usually hailed for that by anal musicians on down the line, who can tell every Burton lick and Blaine roll g. They were hired because they were the whip, the trusted for hire musicians who can nail the recording and nail it well in a short amount of time. The Jayhawks probably didn't draw pay from the Joe Henry session, at least not union scale like a true side musician. Maybe they were paid in beer, or good vibes, I don't know, but they didn't walk into the session, hear one pass of the tune and then come up with a part, I would bet. Not that they could'nt, but I'd wager that a Joe Henry session with the Jayhawks was a far different scene than Emmons and Ray Price Matt "hit me with your best shot" Benz
Re: No controversy here
Actually, don't we all know Elvis is the man? As much as I love Lennon, it's not him alone, but he and McCartney together that made it happen. Yep... Besides, Aretha could kick all their punk asses at once. Indeed! R-E-S-P-E-C-T baby! morgan
Re: Falkner (was RE: A Fine Release Out Today (Twangless))
Well, I haven't heard the new Falkner, and wasn't in a hurry to because
his first one did nothing for me. It's not terrible, it's just pretty
thoroughly uncompelling. (He produced the record and most of the noises
on it himself and I think that was a mistake) Pop-geek roomie (another
audities lister) says he thinks I'd like the new record though, so we'll
see.
Yeah, I agree with you Bill... Decent stuff, but didn't stay with me.
However, I really admire alot of his work. Had the new one in my hand
earlier today, but passed. Still on my list to pick up though...
Chris, if you like Jellyfish w/o the Queen sound, try their first
record, BELLYBUTTON. It's the second, (sans Falkner-with yesterday's P2
hero Jon Brion) SPILT MILK, that veers that direction. ("Joining A
Fanclub" is great fun, IMO)
Bellybutton is very good indeed! Still pull that one off the shelf
occasionally. Actually quite fond of the Gray's as well. Saw them in
Boston just after that disc came out and was really taken by the sound.
n.p. The Jam SOUND AFFECTS/ALL MOD CONS
Ah, Mr, Weller in his prime!
morgan
Re: Semisonic (was Re: Clip: Something to Crow about)
Semisonic's one of the best bands around, whatever the genre. *Great* live
show and very high quality pop music with a brain.
Last year's FEELING STRANGELY FINE is a good record, ubiquitous hit single
("Closing Time") notwithstanding. 1996's GREAT DIVIDE is one of the best
records of the past few years, chock full of great songs, and not a lemon
in the bunch.
Right with you again Bill...both are excellent records. Have not seen them
live, but will in May...
No more pop from me today, promise. g
Nuttin' wrong with a bit o' pop talk...
morgan
Re: Weller's Prime
Ha, that's funny I had a similar on-going conversation with my eldest brother about the Jam and the Clash, although this debate was over which band was better. I sided with the Jam, although I eventually saw the error of my ways. Hey, at least you can now admit to it...g I once thought that Prefab Sprout would become an important band... Wha? But, I've got to gush here... Joe Strummer!!! Need I say more? Morgan
Re: Weller's Prime
My brother and I had the same ongoing debate when we were kids over Quisp vs. Quake. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts Quisp of course... Second only Pink Panther cereal. morgan
RE: Weller's Prime
I still do. Paddy McAloon and Paul Buchanan (of the Blue Nile) are two favorite pop songwriters. In an alternate universe, the Sprouts are as big as the Beatles ever were. Dear lord!!! So, I'm not the only only one who loves 'em? Without a doubt, damn shame that they had little to no support... (And people have cone-shaped heads - but that's another Point.) :) Still perplexed and p.o.'d that _Andromeda Heights_ hasn't come out in the U.S. Gawd only knows??? morgan
Re: Cereal Wars
Did you know they reissued (if that can be a term used for cereal), Boo Berry!? Yes indeedy! Got a box here in my veal fattening pen. (ugh, sorry for the Gen X reference) Morgan At 11:41 AM 4/13/99 -0700, you wrote: Count Chocula tops FrankenBerry. JC
RE: Weller's Prime
A precursor to the Blur vs. Oasis battle??? g That shit made headlines in the UK no doubt... Yikes! OK, got to end this thread now... morgan At 03:03 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrote: The Jam would say outragous things just to piss the Clash off... -Original Message- From:Jon Weisberger [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Tuesday, April 13, 1999 2:49 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Weller's Prime Joonyah says: Weren't there political (or "pop-political" to be more accurate) distinctions to be made between the Clash and the Jam back in the day? Dunno where the Clash fit in - not my cup of tea, you might say - but Weller was pretty heavily involved with the Labor Party-related Red Wedge, at least during his Style Council days. Or so my not-always-reliable memory tells me, anyhow. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
RE: cereal wars/The Clash
:) morgan At 03:07 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrote: I'd take Cap'n Crunch with Crunchberries over the Jam, but the CLash are better than most cereals, even those with substance, like Bran Flakes
Re: Cereal Wars
At 02:21 PM 4/13/99 -0500, you wrote: Is there a vintage cereal market now? Lord have mercy, what a culture... --junior Scary, ain't it? morgan
Re: Cereal Wars
twang content: what about the Jayhawks for sidemen of the decade?? Yes!!! They done good for Mr. Henry, etc... morgan "Louris and Olson fan to the end"
Re: Weller's Prime
Bill sez: And yeah, I know you were teasing, but I wonder sometimes at the overheated British press. I reply: They really do seem to have the KNACK (do I dare??? must resist the era of skinny ties) for creating some artificially charged situations. I guess that goes for anywhere in the world for that matter. However, I've heard alot of British artists complain of this problem... b.s. who can't believe he's confessing to britpop here...g morgan "don't you feel better though?" g
Re: Weller's Prime
At 03:39 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrote: n.p. The Jam SOUND AFFECTS/ALL MOD CONS Ah, Mr, Weller in his prime! I always liked Setting Sons just a bit better than All Mod Cons, but you really can't go wrong with any of the first five albums. I respect the hell out of Weller for pulling the plug on that band when he did, but the Style Council was a sorry substitute. My sentiments exactly... It was such a letdown... True, it was time for them to split most likely, but sheesh... Sophie and I had a major Weller experience in Fletcher's in Baltimore last week. Seems we wandered in there at noon, shot pool for two hours and had the place to ourselves so we loaded up the jukebox on Jam songs and the bartender turned up the volume. "Funeral Pyre" never sounded cooler than thru a bigass set o' speakers with a Sierra Nevada Porter or three. :) Now, that sounds like a splendid way to spend the afternoon! Morgan "wish I could be like David Watts"
Re: Web capo museum
At 02:18 PM 4/13/99 -0400, you wrot No lie, it's at http://w1.865.telia.com/~u86505074/capomuseum/index.htm . Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/ You certainly weren't, were you... Have to admit, it was pretty darned interesting. Partial to the Shubb myself, but our guitarist just picked up the "Parrot" which has caught my eye. Kind of a mutant Jimmy Buffet thing...g morgan
RE: SOTD
That sounds like a plan...The aforementioned folks should all make that list without too much debate I should think. Morgan At 12:04 PM 4/12/99 +, you wrote: I'm not gonna be a scorekeeper, but I'd be more interested in a top-5 or top-10 side people list than in narrowing choices to just one, etc... --junior, who likes all the names being suggested. Hard to settle on just one
RE: SOTD (was re: Wilco)
Dunno... If I read the thread correctly, Slim just referred to it being pure subjective interpretation... Hopefully he was talking about this list. g If not, let's take his cue and run with anything goes... Morgan At 01:30 PM 4/12/99 -0400, you wrote: Sorry to be dense about this g, but are you talking about studio musicians, or folks who have toured with various acts, or both? If the idea is to include the former, exclusively or otherwise, then it seems to me you'd have to start with Paul Franklin, Brent Mason, Stuart Duncan and maybe Rob Hajacos. Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Re: SOTD
So Vince Gill wouldn't qualify, even though he's a top-rate player, whereas Pete Anderson or Gurf Morlix would g. Now junior, that g thingy does not imply a diss of sorts, does it? Them boyz are pretty darned good... Hey, 'bout Mike Campbell, he worked on the solo Petty stuff as well... Knows how to play that "Rich" fer sure. Ah, Dave Minehan (ex of the Neighborhoods) on Paul Westerberg's "14 Songs" tour... Now, that's playing! morgan
Re: SOTD
Phew... Good, you got me worried there. g I'm with you. I believe they are both absolutely essential to both Dwight and Lucinda's sound respectively... Both artists would be hard pressed to find players with such taste and with such affinity for the aesthetic of their songs... Yep, totally agree with you on that last statement... Both are indeed extraordinary players... morgan At 01:59 PM 4/12/99 +, you wrote: No, no diss at all implied vis-a-vis Anderson and Morlix, two of my favorite musicians. It just felt ironic to be calling them "side players" since they're so celebrated in that capacity that they've almost become stars in their own right. Even though neither is a front person, their "side" work is so remarkable that both have plenty of fans, a reputation of their own, etc... I'd even argue that Dwight's not entirely "Dwight" without Anderson and that Gurf was a crucial aspect of those Lucinda albums, etc... --junior
Re: SOTD
Neal submitted: in favor of a real one: Jon Brion. The man is all over so many albums, both as a producer and as a musician (Grant Lee Buffalo, Aimee Mann, Eels, Wallflowers, Fiona Apple, Robyn Hitchcock, Sam Phillips, Mary Lou Lord, Elliott Smith... just to name a few of *dozens* of noteworthy artists he's worked with in the 90s) Very good one! Man, didn't even enter my radar screen. But he is absolutely an amazing "sideman" using that term loosely... Special nod to his work (per list above) with both Grant Lee Buffalo and Elliot Smith... morgan
Re: Crazy Cajun Series
Dave: Fun factoid o' the day: the CCM catalog is owned by none other than the Playboy empire. Hugh do you love? D'oh! After that um, play on words, I just hef to get outta here. g Sorry, I tried to resist, honest... morgan
RE: Japanese hipsterism....
Quite possible; a Charles Osgood segment on Japanese bluegrass aired on 2/15, but no one on bgrass-l knowledgeable enough to identify the groups involved seems to have been awake to catch it g. Thanks for checking Jon...I did a little checking myself on the CBS Sunday Morning site to see if they had the story on archive, but so far have come up empty handed... Ahhh, I recall the days when I'd be able to miss Charles (squared) with no problem, but two small faces asking daddy if he'd like to wake up and play has all but extinguished that memory... g sigh morgan
RE: The Stones/more blues than twang
At 05:09 PM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: Seen the Kinks more than any other band I think, from a fantastic show with the original Pretenders opening in Denver, to a sad plodding show in Columbus a few years back. Great band, only English 60's era group I came close to having all the albums. But I love them 60's Stones They were really are an amazing band!!! Ray is in my opinion one of the most underrated songwriters out there... Exile on Main St.!!! Still on the top o' my list... morgan
Re: And you think earthquakes and floods bite...
Hey Mark, I just emailed my buddy who's a "board certified" weasel out there... He's got alot of decent ties and gets his acts into some of L.A.'s finest clubs (at least this is what he tells me...what do I know? g)... I'll let you know offline and give you his address... morgan At 04:57 PM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: In an attempt to reverse the faux cowboy "cleansing" of our nation's west coast--I'll bet you think Roy Rogers and Gene Autry died of natural causes, don't you?--the Rangers will be singin', playin', eatin', and sleepin' out that way August 12-23. We've got gigs in the LA area on Saturday Aug 14 and a bluegrass festival in Hood River, OR on the succeeding Saturday and Sunday (Aug 21-22), in addition to a club gig in Independence, OR on Aug 20. I'm hoping I can tap into the collective brain trust of P2 to get more bookings in the week in between--Aug 15-19. San Diego on the 13th is not for sure, either. Those of you with ideas--or better yet, who work for/are friendly with clubs--please contact me OFFLIST. House concerts would be fantabulous, too. Please don't force me to play accordion on the street... Thank you kindly. ___ Mark Wyatt * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * One Riot One Ranger * Columbus, OH http://members.aol.com/oneriot/oneriot.html ** "That ain't no part of bluegrass... that ain't no part of nothin'" (Bill Monroe) **
Re: This will get my ass to a large venue: Do they do it in COlu
Lord yes, the original band (the first two albums) was incredible. "First I Look at the Purse," "Milk and Alcohol," etc Before they degenerated into goofiness, they were briefly one of the very best bands around. Yes, Viriginia, there was a time when Peter Wolf had hipster cred g --junior I agree, the early material was fantastic...as a greater Bostonian (the 'burb she is growing), I of course have a fondness for the boys... BTW, has anyone heard/picked up Peter Wolf's latest "Fool's Parade"? It's his best solo album by far! "Long way back again" and "Anything at all" are really pretty numbers. It's good to hear him back in form. Duke Levine plays guitar on the whole disc which is a special treat. I went with Stacey and Al to see Wooden Leg play at the Lizard last winter and Duke sat in for the night...Jimmy and the rest of the band are amazing enough and adding Duke to the mix just pushed the talent pool through the roof... But I digress, Mr. Wolf's mellowed a bit, a little of that fire of yesteryear is gone, but he's still got the voice and the heart... He still seems the true believer! morgan
Re: Best So Far - 99
At 04:41 PM 4/7/99 -0500, William F. Silvers wrote: What the heck, I'll play- 1) Damnations TX- HALF MAD MOON 2) Walter Clevenger and the Dairy Kings- LOVE SONGS TO MYSELF 3) Bill Lloyd- STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS 4) Kelly Willis- WHAT I DESERVE 5) Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band- THE MOUNTAIN 6) Hadacol- BETTER THAN THIS That's enough for just 3 months.g Still marinating on theWilco record. Haven't heard the new Fountains of Wayne record, just released yesterday and getting good pre-release buzz in those circles. b.s. I've been really enjoying Hadacol's "Better than this"...thanks for the recommendations folks. I heard the single (missed the title) off the new Fountains of Wayne disc last night. Very promising indeed! Morgan
Re: Clip: MP3 in Nashville
At 11:40 AM 4/8/99 +, you wrote: Go, Roger!! g. Well, the man has always been into technology, that much is certain He was also a fairly early emailer on one of those Byrds websites, as I recall. When I first got hooked up the the web and started emailing and all, I remember being amazed by the fact that he'd replay to emails in a way that was rare 3 or 4 years ago but has become much more common now You're absolutely right...he was, and still is I gather, a big proponent of Technology. A buddy of mine is a gigantic Byrds head and had a dialogue via email going between he and Roger some time back... Damn, ain't this world a cool place sometimes? Morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
CK said... bring on Shonen Knife. I said: Preach on! morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Dave "not a fan of Shonen Knife" Purcell Oh come on, Shonen Knife is miserable. I'm an open-minded sort of fellow, but they're just friggin' terrible. I mean, if you like them as kitsch, that's one thing, butyeesh. Morgan "goading Dave on" Keating Now Dave, where's your sense of fun? g Morgan
RE: Japanese hipsterism....
Guitar Wolf? I'm afraid I missed this act...but am interested... We played with this metal act once from Japan, but I can't remember the name to save my life... They came out right around the same time as Loudness give or take a year... They had the double kick, tremendously cool big hair, loaded with Ibenez gee-tars! I'll have to take a poke at the old grey matter to get at this one...or perhaps I'll just let it stay right where it is. g> morgan At 02:06 PM 4/8/99 -0500, you wrote: NW wrote: >Got me thinking, anyone know who the most popular Japanese artist in US >history might be? I can't think of anyone beyond Cibo Matto, who, by virtue >of being on a major label, might win this pony race. Well, I'll tell you who the most popular Japanese artist in US history *should* be?Guitar WolfHaven't heard a peep from them in ages. Are they even still together? marie
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
And it seems to be that Shonen Knife has probably had more success in the US than any other Japanese band. They had a bunch of albums out here and some hipster cred for awhile, no? --junior Yeah, it would be safe to say they were the most successful Japanese act stateside, or at least one of the most successful... They were definitely in with the orthopedic shoe set for some time... g I remember they had these really cool buttons... Very "Powerpuff Girls"... morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
What about Yoko Ono? Ross Whitwam[EMAIL PROTECTED] Molecular Pharmacology Therapeutics Program Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, NYC Very true... Morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Actually the look was fine, I kinda dug it. Always wished the Muffs dressed more like that! The music, alas, was the issue with me g. as it should be... g morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Vow Wow or E-Z-O? They were the other two big Japanese metal bands around that time who had contracts in the US. --Jon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wollaston, Massachusetts YES!!! E-Z-O! Thank you sir...'cause as much as I was trying to pull it from me ol' noggin', it wasn't budgin'... morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Now Iceman, come on "My Pal Foote Foote"? A "gem" by any standard... *wink wink nudge nudge* Morgan At 12:32 PM 4/8/99 -0700, you wrote: M Shonen Knife is miserable. The Japanese equivalent of The Shaggs? Iceman
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Never heard of Petty Booka? Good? At 03:57 PM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: Petty Booka! -Original Message- From: Carl Abraham Zimring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Japanese hipsterism Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 8-Apr-99 Re: Japanese hipsterism by Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about Yoko Ono? Or Ryuichi Sakamoto Yellow Magic Orchestra. Carl Z.
Re: The Stones/more blues than twang
One of the best live shows I've had the pleasure to attend...1988 I believe...Kinks at the Orpheum! Now that's rock n' roll! At 03:56 PM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: I'll take the Kinks any day over the Stones. The Stones have some great moments, but are very overrated. And they're not helping themselves any lately either. The Kinks, on the other hand, fucking rule. Period. Thank you. Have a nice day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 3:19 PM Subject: The Stones/more blues than twang The Blues Foundation e-mail Updater. Keepin' the Blues alive through the Net. What would you do if you threw a party and the Rolling Stones showed up? That's exactly what happened last night in Memphis. The Blues Foundation put together a party for the Rolling Stones road crew to welcome the group to Memphis and to give them something to do other than hang in their hotels rooms on their travel day. Memphis' premier rib joint, the Rendezvous, served as host for the event, providing great food for the 50+ people from the Stones organization, and the fabulous The Daddy Mack Blues Band of Memphis played some real down-home Blues for the largely British crowd. The event had extremely tight security, and only Stones staff and Blues Foundation staff (with a handful of guests) were in attendance. Lots of crew and tour management showed up early on, as well as keyboardist Chuck Leavell and bassist Darryl Jones, to grab a bite and hear some Blues with their buddies. Things really got exciting when Mick Jagger showed up with two of his daughters for dinner, followed shortly by Ron Wood and Keith Richards and their friends. Jonny Lang also joined the party with a group of friends. It happened to be the birthday of tour manager Lil Gary, and The Blues Foundation presented her with a cake in the shape of a guitar with "Time Is On Your Side" in frosting. The highlight of the evening came when Keith Richards took over on guitar and Ron Wood took over on bass for the Daddy Mack Blues Band. With regular Daddy Mack-ers Mack Orr on lead and vocals and "Rollo" on drums, the Stones musicians laid down some incredible raw Memphis Blues, to the amazement not only of the Blues Foundation staff, but also the entire entourage. According to the Stones people, it is extremely rare that any of the "Big 4" ever show up for such an event, and to have them sit in with the band just "never happens." Judging from the grins on the faces of Ron and Keith, they got a big kick out of laying back and jamming some Blues. While Keith and Ron were jamming at the Rendezvous, Jonny Lang, who had departed earlier, was tearing up the stage four blocks away at B. B. King's Blues Club on Beale Street. (When Jonny found out later about the jam at the Rendezvous, he said, "Don't tell me any more. I might regret it for the rest of my life.") BY all accounts Jonny, who teamed up with Memphis guitarist Little Jimmy King, set the joint on fire at BB's. Thousands of folks will throng the Memphis Pyramid to hear Jonny and the Stones tonight, but for a lucky few, the real musical treat happened at a rib joint and on Beale Street the night before the main event. The Blues Foundation was thrilled to host such a great group of folks, and we are deeply indebted to our friends Jim and Art Jaworowicz and Nick Vergos of the Rendezvous, without whom this gig would never have happened.
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Guitar Wolf are a garage punk trio. They wear all leather and have cool DAs. It's evident that these guys listened to the Ramones - a lot. They also have really bad attitudes. They won me over immediately. g> I saw them open up for the Cramps in late '97. Haven't heard much from them since. Here's their website: http://www.escape.com/~ywa/extra/guitar.html It hasn't been updated in a while. marie Many thanks love...I'll check it out. morgan
RE: Japanese hipsterism....
There's also a family bluegrass band fronted by a couple or three sisters that's toured here once or twice, and showcased at the IBMA's trade show a couple of years ago. I believe this may be the same family that they did a segment about on CBS Sunday Morning, say about 3 or 4 months ago? They really were quite good... Morgan
RE: The Stones/more blues than twang
At 04:14 PM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: Now that's rock n' roll! Egg-zackly. Amen! morgan
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
that'll learn ya'. g morgan At 01:17 PM 4/8/99 -0700, you wrote: Good lord! That's the *last* time I mention any Japanese bands on this list.g--don
Re: ...talk to me baby --- Lucinda Alert!
Whoo hoo Thanks for the heads up Kate! I'm there... morgan At 08:58 AM 3/23/99 EST, you wrote: Hi Folks, Saw it listed on his WEB site so it must be true! ** Lucinda Williams ** will indeed be playing the one, the only, the infamous, Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel in byotful downtown Providence, RI on May 6th. Can someone say -- perfect pairing? It's a Thursday, all you old working folks should plan accordingly. No word on the opener yet. Guaranteed good time for one and all! Kate. Here's the link:A HREF="http://www.lupos.com/"http://www.lupos.com//A Thursday, May 6 LUCINDA WILLIAMS $15 Advance / $17 Day of Show Doors: 6 pm / Show: 7 pm On Sale Thursday, March 25
Re: GP, GC and No Depression (fwd)
Haven't heard of it before now, but I got the address for you... http://www.csmonline.com/discoveries/index.html Morgan At 12:22 PM 3/18/99 -0800, you wrote: Anyone out there familiar with this publication? Kind of an "up our alley" article. Jerry To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.music.byrds Subject: GP, GC and No Depression The April issue of Discoveries has a long article on Rebel Roots music (aka cowpunk, No Depression, alternative country, Americana, ...). As expected, there are several references to the Byrds, Gram Parsons and the FBBs. FWIW, the author lists and comments on his "top 10 essential Rebel Roots albums", which include 2. Gram Parsons - GP/Grievous Angel "Okay so I love him too. A perfect pairing of Parsons' two solo albums. A great starter kit for nascent fans and veteran worshippers. It stands as two of the most beautiful albums ever made." 5. Gene Clark - Flyin' High "A brilliant double disc career retrospective that will make you bow to a new alter [sic?]." For those of you who like me are trying to make some sense out of this whole No Depression thing, the other top 10-ers were: 1. The Old 97's - Too Far to Care 3. Richard Buckner - Bloomed 4. Steve Earle - Train Kept A'Comin' 6. The Jayhawks - Tomorrow the Green Grass 7. Patty Griffin - Living with Ghosts 8. Lone Justice - Lone Justice 9. Scud Mountain Boys - Massachusetts 10. The Beat Farmers - Tales of the New West Ken ---== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==-- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
RE: Tweedy @ Salon
At 09:12 AM 3/17/99 +, you wrote: Dave: Dunno about Postcard, but given that everything from Coltrane to Blue Oyster Cult comes up here on a regular basis, I think one would be hard-pressed to describe P2 as a list of No Depression purists. Indeed. Perhaps the demographic description should be changed to "free-range country lovin' eclectics". Sure has a snappy ring to it... --junior Damn straight Dave! Purist shmurist! Junior- I believe you have found THE description for said demograhic... I myself am going out and getting business cards done. g morgan "what's so funny about peas, loam, and underplanning?" (referring to my very ungreen thumb)
Re: FW: well shit gawddam there's no justice in this mean and bitter world
Aghhhggh! Kelly Willis cancelled her Columbus show! Doesn't she know? Doesn't she understand? All those letters I sent her, all those "items" of my affection, all those.oh.I see Now Matt...she just needs her "space"...you understand don't you? Matt? Matt?
RE: Tweedy @ Salon
I don't understand it either? I think it's really a case of being "catagorized" that gets artists squirrelly. It seems like Tweedy and Henry to a lesser extent take a defensive stance because a) they feel they have to defend their "evolving" art b) not so sure they are confident with their changes. Maybe? Just an observation from the son of a psycholgist. g But I think their defensiveness is more often than not justified. Matt is correct in that generally people are not extremely accepting en masse of an artist veering away from their roots so to speak. So, I think that is what Tweedy is referring to in that a portion of his earlier audience will and has abandoned him because of his "alleged" betrayal. So it's natural for him to just dismiss them as he feels they've dismissed him. It's always been tough for artists to forge ahead. They're always being compared to their earlier works and if they've had the good fortune or misfortune as the case may be to narrowly miss brilliance in their earlier work, it makes for a constant uphill battle. Neil Young is a great example. People constantly pitted "Trans" against "Harvest"... Different animals, period. Elvis Costello's worst records will far exceed the fodder we call top 40 today, yet he's crucified for a not so terrific release (in the eyes of the media). Essentially I see that one of the primary roles of a writer is to challange his or herself and evolve... If the Beatles stopped at "She Loves You" we never would have had "Happiness is a Warm Gun", if Bob Dylan said to himself "Heck, maybe this electric thang ain't goin' to work here", he would have never been booed off the stage in Newport with his blatent betrayal of folk with his "Band" backing him. What a treat that must have been for him. g I'm sure he hated being crucified, but he did it nevertheless, and now it's being lauded as one of the greatest moments in his career with the recently released Live at the Royal Albert Hall record. I applaud Tweedy/Henry/Jayhawks in the fact that they are uncompromising in their pursuit of making great records. Will there be missteps in the public eye? Yep? Will they lose and gain audiences? Yep? But isn't that what it's all about? The only unfortunate thing is that they feel that it's necessary to lash out at the ND/alt.country label...as we are a valid, and I agree, pretty open minded group of music enthusiasts that don't deserve to be slapped for their interests. The bottom line should be if you like what you here great, if you don't great... But the artists should be judged by the songs... Good songs are good songs period... morgan "slightly defensive and somewhat biased fan of Tweedy/Henry/Louris/Olson/L V (not the ex Miss America)Williams/ Farrar/Earle/Townsend/Hiatt and countless others" At 11:41 AM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: What's his beef? He did the Mermaid Ave music in a roosty vein (never have I heard a band try so hard to sound like the Basement Tapes, BTW), so it's not like a huge stretch for folks to expect him and WIlco to still produce ND related music, when his last project *was* so NDish. Now he has a big ELO pop music spectacular, which is fine, but for him to express bewilderment that folks are surprised and maybe not thrilled with such sudden musical changes is funny. It is a radical jump from one album to the next. People who like the Neil Young sound don't rush out and embrace his rockabilly big band techno albums either. People like consistancy. Not everyone is so embracing of the wide range of pop and rock stylings that a artist may feel like playing. Not everyone is so well rounded as some of the folks on p2. No big deal, just the way it is. Interesting to note Joe Henry is also going thru this stage. I don't care what he puts out, I don't think he's betraying anything by changing sounds, I just get tired of him and the "purists" whoever and where ever they are-talking about it.
RE: Tweedy @ Salon, Kelly Willis
was: gimmackry sp should have been: gimmickry...previous post...was:here sp should have been: hear. my brain...it is not letting my finger's work properly today...plus I'm very related to several english teachers. g BTW, Happy St. Patrick's Day to you all!
RE: Tweedy @ Salon, Kelly Willis
At 01:40 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: [Matt Benz] Well, in many ways, I identify with Tweedy, since I grew up with much the same musical influences, I suspect, and hell, I jump around myself musically. But then, no one asks me about that, nor do I have an adoring audience following my every move. Well, I do, but a court order should take care of that problem. Anyhoo, what I mean to say is I understand what he wants to do musically, and again, I'm not one of them ND purists. But like Purcell, I haven't really got into Wilco that much. Not sure why, but it isn't cause of betrayal or anything. Just don'tlike it...much. You've got the right perspective... You understand where he's coming from, yet you don't like it 'cause it just doesn't resonate with you... That's cool... Personally I think this a really good/interesting record (time will tell if it stays on my repeat listens list). I don't know if its the unabashed Brian Wilson influence or what? Maybe it's just that I'm a hopeless popster myself...g Ultimately, I think it's that he's written some strong tunes once again and they're to be found beneath the studio gimmackry... I'm also kinda disappointed with Kelly Willis' release. I guess I was hoping for something more along the lines of "Kelly Willis," a harder country sound. This is too ...erm.americana for my tastes, at least some of it. Still, it is her voice, so I'll live and still play it. Saw an old video of heres from the "Bang Bang" days in which she fully participates in one of them modern country videos. Yowza. I'm actually new to Kelly Willis. I just picked up the record and really like it. Yes indeed, her voice is very beautiful and that carries me through alot of it. I also like the fact that she chose a few choice covers (Drake and Westerberg respectively)... Louris' contribututions are great to boot, particularly "Happy with that". "Not Long for this World" is a fine closer... Not sure if it's been discussed? The new Paul Westerberg Record...Best post Replacements release... Agree? Disagree? Discuss. g morgan
RE: That Bottle was Just a Coincidence - there's a song here somewhere
I like it! Especially the hook of the last line... BTW, Marie tells me you've got a new record coming out soon? Psyched to hear it! At 02:18 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: The proposed chorus: Yes, I slammed into that wall But not on account of the alcohol That much I can claim in self defense Broken hearted over losing you Drives me to do the things I do I don't mean no offence But that open bottle well that was just a coincidence
RE: That Bottle was Just a Coincidence - there's a song here somewhere
Cool. I'm looking forward to it... At 04:23 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: Oh, um, yeh, the belated Sovines cd comes out this April on Kingpin Records. God willing and the creek don't rise -Original Message- From:Morgan Keating [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Wednesday, March 17, 1999 3:49 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: That Bottle was Just a Coincidence - there's a song here somewhere I like it! Especially the hook of the last line... BTW, Marie tells me you've got a new record coming out soon? Psyched to hear it! At 02:18 PM 3/17/99 -0500, you wrote: The proposed chorus: Yes, I slammed into that wall But not on account of the alcohol That much I can claim in self defense Broken hearted over losing you Drives me to do the things I do I don't mean no offence But that open bottle well that was just a coincidence
