Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Paul Hill wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Hill wrote:
 On 11/5/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael Madigan wrote:
 Could you imagine how bad this country would be if the
 White Christian Males left the country?
 I always get disoriented with these color references. What does White
 mean to you? Is it only anglo-saxon, or do latins (e.g. French) qualify.
  If latins don't qualify then, what do you do with the fact that there
 is a lot of latin blood in anglo-saxons? I mean, the Romans conquered
 the little island, and later the French did the same.
 I think you will find it was the Normans rather than the French!
 I don't recall that country... Oh, yes! It's a part of France, La
 Normandie, where the Normans come from, just like Alsace, Lorraine, and
 so many other regions of La France.
 Allons Garcons de la Patre
 le jour de gloire est'arrivé...
 
 Now it's part of France but it wasn't back then.
 
From the page Jean helpfully linked to:
 
 The name of Normandy is derived from the settlement and conquest of
 the territory by Vikings (Northmen) from the 9th century, and
 confirmed by treaty in the 10th century. For a century and a half
 following the Norman Conquest of England in 1066, Normandy and England
 were linked by Norman rulers, but following 1204 the continental
 territory was ultimately held by France.
 

Are we speaking the same language?
If they are French now, then they would be considered Latin, wouldn't
they? If you would not then please let me know the line from where
Latin begins.
...
..
.
So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).





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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Y'all are all getting bent out of shape about the wrong part of the phrase 
 'white Christian males', totally missing the point.  The color is only 
 important as it lets people have someone to criticize and get away with it.  
 The last two words are the keys... when we have males acting like men rather 
 than whiney little boys or spoiled self centered brats, we have the strength 
 that makes society run smoothly.  This is not to downplay the value of women, 
 however when we have males who have been Oprafied to the point of 
 inefectiveness, we have nothing.  Then the last word, whether you believe the 
 same way or not, shows a sense of knowing ones self and the value of others 
 that is not subject to the results of political correctness or the latest 
 Gallop poll... or Cosmo poll for that matter... thus they can be scary people 
 by those who want to run society.
 

You see Larry, your choice of words denotes your thought process, your
image of the world. You can say the same thing in mny many ways, yet
this one was chosen, it is meaningful.
Then we have the strength that makes society run smoothly, or knowing
one's self and the VALUE of others (I added the apostrophe and the
caps) that, to me, have a very particular Nazi scent. But don't mind me,
I'm just a cocky latin who thinks himself superior to the chosen ones,
poor fool.





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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Paul Hill wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
 heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).
 
 Your genes originate from Europe I guess.
 

Only part of them, I have Galician, Spanish, French, German. But I also
have injun (true American?) genes.

 But really, who cares?
 

Everyone who splashes his speech with phrases such as White Christian men?



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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 11/6/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
  heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).

 Your genes originate from Europe I guess.

Make that Afrika...

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/johanson.html

A+
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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Hill
On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
 heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).

Your genes originate from Europe I guess.

But really, who cares?

-- 
Paul


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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Jean Laeremans wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
 heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).
 Your genes originate from Europe I guess.

 Make that Afrika...
 
 http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/johanson.html
 

So I'm also Black? Cool!
Hey Paul! Add African to my gene pool.


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Re: FP2.6 dos not going full screen

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Cushing
Andrew Stirling wrote:
 John, Peter
 The other machines are 3+ years old.
 This one is 4months old. Probably a much better quality than the others, 
 not a dual core I believe.
 This is been happening since they bought it. The user is getting annoyed 
 they can't go full screen.
 Could it be a Video Driver?
   
I've seen other issues with the video driver.  For some unknown reason 
certain browse windows would display the columns in the wrong order.  
Can't remember whether the solution was to turn down the video 
resolution or turn it up and make the card work harder.  Another option 
would be to put in a cheap video card to test if that was the problem.  
Disable the on board one if necessary.

Peter



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RE: FoxSpell v3.0h - Fixed

2007-11-06 Thread Kent Belan
Hello Dave,
Thanks for the info and link. Craigs class looks real nice ... wish I had
seen it before I got FoxSpell.

I found and fixed the problem by adding trim() to 2 lines of code.

Around line 636...
aTextshow[nLine_load] = trim(MLINE(cText2check, 1, _MLINE))

Around line 1075 ...
cString = trim(MLINE(cText2check, 1, _MLINE))

Thanks,
Kent



Kent,
If you still have problems and can't solve them, then take a look at Craig's
free 100% VFP Spell checker

http://www.sweetpotatosoftware.com/SPSBlog/PermaLink,guid,8800bdb9-a9c2-484f
-942f-6a08947d903a.aspx

or 

http://tinyurl.com/p93jy

Excellent piece of software

Dave Crozier


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Hello,
I am using FoxSpell in my applications and it works fine except when the
user replaces a word and saves to exit it puts extra spaces in the text.

Has anyone noticed this bug and fixed it before I dig into the code?

I have tried to find the developer with no luck, Thanks, Kent







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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Hill
On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Hill wrote:
  On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
  heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).
 
  Your genes originate from Europe I guess.

 Only part of them, I have Galician, Spanish, French, German. But I also
 have injun (true American?) genes.

  But really, who cares?

 Everyone who splashes his speech with phrases such as White Christian men?

Who me? I think you're confused..

-- 
Paul


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Re: FP2.6 dos not going full screen

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Hill
Hi all,

On a related note I noticed on this Vista box I get the message:

This system does not support fullscreen mode.

It's a newish Dell.

-- 
Paul


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RE: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
That is so ridiculous it doesn't even deserve redress...  Although it
was kind of funny.

He is a good well balance site:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics.asp



v/r
 

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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

 He is a good well balance site:

How does the phrase media elite strike you as well-balanced?

Do you call doctors the medical elite? Or farmers the  
agricultural elite?

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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 11/6/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

  He is a good well balance site:

Is this a well balanced sentence ?

A+
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RE: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
snip

On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

 He is a good well balance site:

   How does the phrase media elite strike you as well-balanced?

   Do you call doctors the medical elite? Or farmers the  
 agricultural elite?

Yeah, that's about right...ggg

v/r
 

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On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

 He is a good well balance site:

How does the phrase media elite strike you as well-balanced?

Do you call doctors the medical elite? Or farmers the  
agricultural elite?

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loader

2007-11-06 Thread Al
Hi foxgang
Im trying to get a loader running that checks for an update on the internet,
downloads and runs. I have all running except one problem. Once the exe runs
and closes it has an error that the loader (formname) cannot be cleared
(object loader cannot be cleared because it is in use)
Anyone have an idea how to overcome this.
I did do it a while bach with a loader but lost the source. If not can
anyone refox my exe for that.
Allen

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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread richmondeagle
The color is only important as it lets people have someone to criticize and 
get away with it.

I guess my friend did not catch this line of my posting.  As far as knowing who 
you are... it's not a sense of superiority, it's a sense of 'I know who I am 
and these bozos who are criticizing me can take a flying leap!'

--
Larry Miller 

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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Jeff Johnson wrote:
 Michael:  I have done this on everything since day 1.  Well maybe I got 
 in trouble a couple of times and started it somewhere early on.  I don't 
 have them sign anything because nowadays I have been working with my 
 core customers for over 15 years.  What I do is get the bulk of the 
 application working and distribute it.  I have the customer put it 
 through it's paces and ask them if it is what they expected and does it 
 meet their needs.  If they say yes, I bill them and move on to the next 
 phase.  I do this with hourly and bid.  When I add a feature or a 
 report, I handle it the same way.

   

The big difference between your scenario and mine is that I'm not 
working with long-time customers but in fact NEW customers, and those 
folks may be of the mindset why do I have to test this...isn't that 
your job?  I certainly run my own testing, but many times, especially 
in a scenario where I'm a very small company (1!), the end-user may do 
something that I didn't consider.  You know the kind of customer I'm 
talking about--the ones who want the off-the-shelf product that is 
flawlessand we all know that with custom written software, that 
flawless idea is simply not realistic.

-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen wrote:
 MB Software Solutions wrote:
   
 Curious as to how many of you independents handle UAT (User Acceptance 
 Testing), whereby you are getting them to sign off on delivery of the 
 goods (software) and their acceptance of said software.
 

 Chapter 28 of DevGuide covers this, including a sample Customer Visit 
 form. Sometimes it's difficult to remember that this info is already on 
 the bookshelf among the thousands of pages there. :)

   

Very true...and I own this book.  I recall reading (some of) it back in 
2004, and I liked the arguments you made for how to answer those 
questions of why companies should go with you (the small shop) instead 
of the big corporate dog.  It doesn't always work, but your 
ideas/tips/suggestions were good ones that actually helped me land a 
client a couple years ago.  That, and the fact that PeopleSoft got 
bought out and some other big name companies tanked.

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RE: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
snip

On 11/6/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

  He is a good well balance site:

  Is this a well balanced sentence?

Can't a guy have a near mid-week hangover in peace?  ggg

v/r
 

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
sent to your email address
Thanks Dave
Al 

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Al,
I can Refox it for you if you want.

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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Nov 6, 2007, at 8:54 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

   
 The big difference between your scenario and mine is that I'm not
 working with long-time customers but in fact NEW customers, and those
 folks may be of the mindset why do I have to test this...isn't that
 your job?
 

   I *always* show the app to the actual employees who will be using it  
 whenever possible. It's one thing to get the department head to sign  
 off on the spec, but without exception the day-to-day users find one  
 or more things that annoy them because they make their work harder.

   Let's say you're showing it to a couple of users, and they comment  
 on how the current app is a pain because it makes them do x, y and z  
 in order to accomplish what should be a simple task. You then modify  
 the app to accommodate this request, and show them the new version.  
 They will think that you are the greatest guy in the world, because  
 you listened to them and made their life easier. You now have some  
 'fans' in the company who will champion your app and be glad to show  
 others why this new app is much better. This kind of support is  
 invaluable in overcoming the inevitable bumps that happen when a new  
 app is introduced into a busy office.

   

I whole-heartedly agree...the folks I'm asking to sign off are indeed 
the end-users in this case. 

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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oprafied


lol!!


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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 8:54 AM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

 The big difference between your scenario and mine is that I'm not
 working with long-time customers but in fact NEW customers, and those
 folks may be of the mindset why do I have to test this...isn't that
 your job?

I *always* show the app to the actual employees who will be using it  
whenever possible. It's one thing to get the department head to sign  
off on the spec, but without exception the day-to-day users find one  
or more things that annoy them because they make their work harder.

Let's say you're showing it to a couple of users, and they comment  
on how the current app is a pain because it makes them do x, y and z  
in order to accomplish what should be a simple task. You then modify  
the app to accommodate this request, and show them the new version.  
They will think that you are the greatest guy in the world, because  
you listened to them and made their life easier. You now have some  
'fans' in the company who will champion your app and be glad to show  
others why this new app is much better. This kind of support is  
invaluable in overcoming the inevitable bumps that happen when a new  
app is introduced into a busy office.

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
I can Refox it for you if you want.

Dave Crozier


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Subject: loader

Hi foxgang
Im trying to get a loader running that checks for an update on the internet,
downloads and runs. I have all running except one problem. Once the exe runs
and closes it has an error that the loader (formname) cannot be cleared
(object loader cannot be cleared because it is in use)
Anyone have an idea how to overcome this.
I did do it a while bach with a loader but lost the source. If not can
anyone refox my exe for that.
Allen

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Re: VFP7: Source Not Available

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Rick Schummer wrote:
 The source will need to be available from the current directory, iirc.  
   

 The source needs to be in the path, not the current directory. This is the 
 part I have been burned
 on before. 

   

available FROM (notice I didn't say IN) the current directory  
...kinda means... in the current path;-)

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
Not arrived here DaveC at Flexipol.co.uk. If you used loader as the
subject then it may have been junked by our email filter as loader is the
subject name of messages that are sent out by a number of viruses. I suggest
.zip it and then attach to a message with some standard text in it

Dave

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Sent: 06 November 2007 14:05
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Subject: RE: loader

sent to your email address
Thanks Dave
Al 

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Al,
I can Refox it for you if you want.

Dave Crozier




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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
ok tried again. It was the exe so probably got stuffed
changed subject to ladies of the night for you :)
Al 

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Al,
Not arrived here DaveC at Flexipol.co.uk. If you used loader as the
subject then it may have been junked by our email filter as loader is the
subject name of messages that are sent out by a number of viruses. I suggest
.zi

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Re: FP2.6 dos not going full screen

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/6/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On a related note I noticed on this Vista box I get the message:

 This system does not support fullscreen mode.

 It's a newish Dell.

Vista and Dell. That's two strikes. You ought to review http://badvista.fsf.org/

Googling yields:

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/06/27/workaround-to-this-system-does-not-support-full-screen-mode-in-windows-vista/

or:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3928s8

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
Still nothing here. Send it to DaveC at Replacement-Software.co.uk and
I'll pick it up off my webmail.

Dave


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Subject: RE: loader

ok tried again. It was the exe so probably got stuffed
changed subject to ladies of the night for you :)
Al 

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Al,
Not arrived here DaveC at Flexipol.co.uk. If you used loader as the
subject then it may have been junked by our email filter as loader is the
subject name of messages that are sent out by a number of viruses. I suggest
.zi

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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:27 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

  How does the phrase media elite strike you as well-balanced?

  Do you call doctors the medical elite? Or farmers the
 agricultural elite?

 The ones who are very successful.yes.

But calling someone elite in this context is not a compliment; it  
implies out-of-touch and, especially here, biased based on being  
out-of-touch.

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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread Jeff Johnson
Michael:  I do a lot small apps for mom  pops and small businesses, 
too.  I have them look over the software, I show them how to use it and 
after a couple of days I ask them for feedback.

I also tell the small guys and it is written in my contract that the 
accuracy of the software is the customer responsibility.  If they don't 
test the software and tell me about something that doesn't work right; I 
can't be held responsible.  Others may disagree with this, but it has 
worked great for me.

Jeff

Jeff Johnson
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623-582-0323
Fax 623-869-0675

MB Software Solutions wrote:
 Jeff Johnson wrote:
 Michael:  I have done this on everything since day 1.  Well maybe I got 
 in trouble a couple of times and started it somewhere early on.  I don't 
 have them sign anything because nowadays I have been working with my 
 core customers for over 15 years.  What I do is get the bulk of the 
 application working and distribute it.  I have the customer put it 
 through it's paces and ask them if it is what they expected and does it 
 meet their needs.  If they say yes, I bill them and move on to the next 
 phase.  I do this with hourly and bid.  When I add a feature or a 
 report, I handle it the same way.

   
 
 The big difference between your scenario and mine is that I'm not 
 working with long-time customers but in fact NEW customers, and those 
 folks may be of the mindset why do I have to test this...isn't that 
 your job?  I certainly run my own testing, but many times, especially 
 in a scenario where I'm a very small company (1!), the end-user may do 
 something that I didn't consider.  You know the kind of customer I'm 
 talking about--the ones who want the off-the-shelf product that is 
 flawlessand we all know that with custom written software, that 
 flawless idea is simply not realistic.
 


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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote:

   How does the phrase media elite strike you as well-balanced?

   Do you call doctors the medical elite? Or farmers the  
 agricultural elite?
   

The ones who are very successful.yes.


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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
Nothing here still. Did you try the replacement-software.co.uk address as
well as there is nothing there either? 

It may be your end as all the profox messages are coming through on both
Flexipol and replacement-software

Dave 

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Subject: RE: loader

ok tried again. It was the exe so probably got stuffed
changed subject to ladies of the night for you :)
Al 

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Subject: RE: loader

Al,
Not arrived here DaveC at Flexipol.co.uk. If you used loader as the
subject then it may have been junked by our email filter as loader is the
subject name of messages that are sent out by a number of viruses. I suggest
.zi

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Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Derek Kalweit
Profox:

Hello. Just over 5 years ago, I subscribed to this list. It helped
see me through the dark days of working with VFP at my day job and
mastering it as best as a person can master as buggy/incomplete a
development environment/runtime as VFP. Now the time has come, and my
boss has finally seen the light that VFP isn't forever, and we're
making conversions to .NET. First our web product, but more to follow.
I'm glad to see this for the company and my career as well. I'm amazed
at how well .NET is just working-- I don't spend more than half my day
trying to work around stupid limitations and bugs(C0.05's, graphics
glitches, etc.) as I've often done with VFP. Anyways, seeing as how
this list is just VFP and Daboo/open source propoganda, I think it's
time for me to go. Thank you, and if anyone wishes to contact me off
list, you can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.


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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Cushing
Derek Kalweit wrote:
 Profox:

 Hello. Just over 5 years ago, I subscribed to this list. It helped
 see me through the dark days of working with VFP at my day job and
 mastering it as best as a person can master as buggy/incomplete a
 development environment/runtime as VFP. Now the time has come, and my
 boss has finally seen the light that VFP isn't forever, and we're
 making conversions to .NET. First our web product, but more to follow.
 I'm glad to see this for the company and my career as well. I'm amazed
 at how well .NET is just working-- I don't spend more than half my day
 trying to work around stupid limitations and bugs(C0.05's, graphics
 glitches, etc.) as I've often done with VFP. Anyways, seeing as how
 this list is just VFP and Daboo/open source propoganda, I think it's
 time for me to go. Thank you, and if anyone wishes to contact me off
 list, you can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.


   
and now the end is near, and so I face the final shutdown

Au revoir.

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RE: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Another one falls to the dark side!!!

Hope it all continues to go well Derek.

Dave Crozier




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[NF] Juniper SSL and VFP

2007-11-06 Thread Jack Skelley
Good Morning All:
We just moved into out new $400 arena in Newark, NJ and it's time to get 
scouting back up and running.
In the past we used Checkpoint VPN-1 for scouting communications and I 
abandoned it with all the IPSEC and NAT issues I have experienced for 
the last 7 years for Juniper's SSL VPN. There was no sense trying to get 
the old system working in the new building when I wanted to change to 
SSL last year.
I have figured out how to automate the login in VFP6 passing the userid 
and password to the URL in IE7 and map drives and send and receive data. 
But I can't get the tunnel to drop within the VFP app without user 
intervention. I don't want to add another step to the process.
Does anyone use VFP and Juniper's SSL dsNetworkConnect.exe or the web 
browser launch to automate the process? I have looked everywhere and 
Juniper doesn't mention automation...
Thanks!
Regards,

Jack Skelley


Dave Crozier wrote:
 Al,
 Nothing here still. Did you try the replacement-software.co.uk address as
 well as there is nothing there either? 
 
 It may be your end as all the profox messages are coming through on both
 Flexipol and replacement-software
 
 Dave 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Allen
 Sent: 06 November 2007 14:35
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: loader
 
 ok tried again. It was the exe so probably got stuffed
 changed subject to ladies of the night for you :)
 Al 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Dave Crozier
 Sent: 06 November 2007 15:28
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: loader
 
 Al,
 Not arrived here DaveC at Flexipol.co.uk. If you used loader as the
 subject then it may have been junked by our email filter as loader is the
 subject name of messages that are sent out by a number of viruses. I suggest
 .zi
 
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 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 05/11/2007
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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Vince Teachout
Derek Kalweit wrote:
 I think it's
 time for me to go. Thank you, and if anyone wishes to contact me off
 list, you can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.
Good luck, and best of success to you!


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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Jeff Johnson wrote:
 Michael:  I do a lot small apps for mom  pops and small businesses, 
 too.  I have them look over the software, I show them how to use it and 
 after a couple of days I ask them for feedback.

 I also tell the small guys and it is written in my contract that the 
 accuracy of the software is the customer responsibility.  If they don't 
 test the software and tell me about something that doesn't work right; I 
 can't be held responsible.  Others may disagree with this, but it has 
 worked great for me.

   

I've got a good contract clause in place whereby any bugs in the 
software of which I am notified and can replicate on my end--I've got 
something like 30-90 days to fix them. 

-- 
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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:

 Another one falls to the dark side!!!

 Hope it all continues to go well Derek.

This seems like a good time to remind everyone on this list about  
Derek's contribution to making this list possible. As many of you  
know, I run my server from the RoadRunner account for my home, which  
means that I have an IP address in the range reserved for dynamic  
addresses. Many ISPs block spam from these know dynamic ranges, on  
the assumption that such addresses should be sending mail through  
their ISP's server and not directly. However, RoadRunner limits  
outgoing messages from any address to about a thousand a day, which  
is more than enough for most, but would be about 3 postings a day for  
ProFox!

The solution that I've used for the past few years has been to route  
mail to addresses whose ISPs block dynamic ranges through a server  
with a fixed IP address. Derek has been generous enough to provide  
his server at sensiblesoftware.com for this purpose; without this,  
most of you could not receive ProFox. So take a second to look at  
your email headers, and if you see an entry for  
'suggs.sensiblesoftware.com' in there, be sure to thank Derek for  
contributing to the community!

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Re: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Brian Erickson
I can help you with that.  what I have have done in the past is to build 
a loader ext that finds the highest file with the .app extension and 
runs it.  in side the app i check for newer version and if one is noted 
then all I do is download the new app file, extract it and drop back to 
my loader.exe.  the exe will pick up the newer app file and run it.  simple

Dave Crozier wrote:
 Al,
 I can Refox it for you if you want.
 
 Dave Crozier
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Al
 Sent: 06 November 2007 13:03
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: loader
 
 Hi foxgang
 Im trying to get a loader running that checks for an update on the internet,
 downloads and runs. I have all running except one problem. Once the exe runs
 and closes it has an error that the loader (formname) cannot be cleared
 (object loader cannot be cleared because it is in use)
 Anyone have an idea how to overcome this.
 I did do it a while bach with a loader but lost the source. If not can
 anyone refox my exe for that.
 Allen
 
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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
ok have sent to that ad.
Al 

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Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 06 November 2007 15:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: loader

Al,
Still nothing here. Send it to DaveC at Replacement-Software.co.uk and
I'll pick it up off my webmail.

Dave


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RE: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread John Harvey
No, PLEASE DON'T GO!G  

Good luck with dot net. I'm dabbling, but I'll be doing Fox for a while
still.

JH



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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
I dont use apps. only exe's
I found my problem was a clear all in the exit of the prog. It didnt like
the loader being already there.
Its because the loader runs the exe and wont go away untill the exe closes.
I may have to look at a delphi loader. The version part is fine, I have been
using the same method for some time now.
Allen

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Erickson
Sent: 06 November 2007 16:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: loader

I can help you with that.  what I have have done in the past is to build a
loader ext that finds the highest file with the .app extension and runs it.
in side the app i check for newer version and if one is noted then all I do
is download the new app file, extract it and drop back to my loader.exe.
the exe will pick up the newer app file and run it.  simple

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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Derek Kalweit wrote:
 Profox:

 Hello. Just over 5 years ago, I subscribed to this list. It helped
 see me through the dark days of working with VFP at my day job and
 mastering it as best as a person can master as buggy/incomplete a
 development environment/runtime as VFP. Now the time has come, and my
 boss has finally seen the light that VFP isn't forever, and we're
 making conversions to .NET. First our web product, but more to follow.
 I'm glad to see this for the company and my career as well. I'm amazed
 at how well .NET is just working-- I don't spend more than half my day
 trying to work around stupid limitations and bugs(C0.05's, graphics
 glitches, etc.) as I've often done with VFP. Anyways, seeing as how
 this list is just VFP and Daboo/open source propoganda, I think it's
 time for me to go. Thank you, and if anyone wishes to contact me off
 list, you can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.


   
I'm glad I don't have the issues that seemed to plague you with VFP.  It 
just works well for me!  ;-)

Good luck! 

-- 
Michael J. Babcock, MCP
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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote:

   But calling someone elite in this context is not a compliment; it  
 implies out-of-touch and, especially here, biased based on being  
 out-of-touch.
   

...reminds me of the time when George HW Bush didn't know the cost of a 
loaf of bread...and that really dinged him iirc.


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[OT] The actual surge

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
Recent Troop Deaths Make 2007 Deadliest Year of Iraq War for U.S.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119435614156283877.html? 
mod=googlenews_wsj
( -or- http://tinyurl.com/39kslo )

So we know that the surge is working. We just aren't sure for whom  
it's working yet.

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Re: [NF] Juniper SSL and VFP

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/6/07, Jack Skelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We just moved into out new $400 arena in Newark, NJ and it's time to get
 scouting back up and running.

Boy, I knew housing prices were down, but that's a bargain. I mean,
even in New Jersey!

Or is this one of those deals with the devil?

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
Refoxed Proj just sent back to you.

Dave




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Re: [NF] Juniper SSL and VFP

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

 Boy, I knew housing prices were down, but that's a bargain. I mean,
 even in New Jersey!

 Or is this one of those deals with the devil?

You mean deals for the Devils, right?  ;-)

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[NF] WinWord (2000) problem

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Newton
Hi all

I have one copy of Word 2K installed in the usual place on C - it was installed 
to this location from Win98, Win2K and WinXP which are in three different 
partitions.

Word runs fine from Win98 and Win2K but resfuses to start when run from XP - 
the splash screen comes up and never disappears.  The main word screen appears 
but completely blank and all I can do is use task manager to shut it down.

I have tried (i) repairing the office installation (ii) reinstalling office and 
(iii) completely unistalling and then reinstalling office.

I have made sure that it is not a template problem (Normal.DOT) and that there 
are no COM add-ins.

I have also checked various registry entries and these also seem to be OK.

I have tried to make sure that it is not a printer (driver) problem

I am completely stuck so any suggestions would be highly appreciated

Paul Newton



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SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread John Weller
I recently asked for advice on Automating Emails and, as a result, decided
to use Essmtp.ocx.  It works like a charm on my development machine but when
I take it to my client I get an error 213 when I try to send mail.  I can't
find any trace of what that error message means.  My development system is
very similar to my client's, they are both four machines on a peer-to-peer
network sharing internet access through a Netgear router.  The main
difference is the ISP, I am with PlusNet and my client is with BT.  Any
suggestions gratefully received.  (I really don't want to have to go back to
MAPI g).

TIA

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631



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Re: [NF] Juniper SSL and VFP

2007-11-06 Thread Jack Skelley
Ted:
I'm not sure if this is a Freudian Slip or a typo bg
Actually it should read '$400 million'
Regards,

Jack


Ted Roche wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Jack Skelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We just moved into out new $400 arena in Newark, NJ and it's time to get
 scouting back up and running.
 
 Boy, I knew housing prices were down, but that's a bargain. I mean,
 even in New Jersey!
 
 Or is this one of those deals with the devil?
 


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Re: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Brian Erickson
Can you do the same thing with 2 different exe's???  is that an option???

Allen wrote:
 I dont use apps. only exe's
 I found my problem was a clear all in the exit of the prog. It didnt like
 the loader being already there.
 Its because the loader runs the exe and wont go away untill the exe closes.
 I may have to look at a delphi loader. The version part is fine, I have been
 using the same method for some time now.
 Allen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Brian Erickson
 Sent: 06 November 2007 16:32
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: loader
 
 I can help you with that.  what I have have done in the past is to build a
 loader ext that finds the highest file with the .app extension and runs it.
 in side the app i check for newer version and if one is noted then all I do
 is download the new app file, extract it and drop back to my loader.exe.
 the exe will pick up the newer app file and run it.  simple
 
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RE: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Paul,
There is an unistaller on the Microsoft site especially for this. Can't
remember off hand what it is called - something on the lines of forced
installer. I can find out when I get home this evening though.

Dave Crozier


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Paul Newton
Sent: 06 November 2007 16:11
To: profox
Subject: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

Hi all

I have one copy of Word 2K installed in the usual place on C - it was
installed to this location from Win98, Win2K and WinXP which are in three
different partitions.

Word runs fine from Win98 and Win2K but resfuses to start when run from XP -
the splash screen comes up and never disappears.  The main word screen
appears but completely blank and all I can do is use task manager to shut it
down.

I have tried (i) repairing the office installation (ii) reinstalling office
and (iii) completely unistalling and then reinstalling office.

I have made sure that it is not a template problem (Normal.DOT) and that
there are no COM add-ins.

I have also checked various registry entries and these also seem to be OK.

I have tried to make sure that it is not a printer (driver) problem

I am completely stuck so any suggestions would be highly appreciated

Paul Newton



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Re: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Cushing
John Weller wrote:
 I recently asked for advice on Automating Emails and, as a result, decided
 to use Essmtp.ocx.  It works like a charm on my development machine but when
 I take it to my client I get an error 213 when I try to send mail.  I can't
 find any trace of what that error message means.  My development system is
 very similar to my client's, they are both four machines on a peer-to-peer
 network sharing internet access through a Netgear router.  The main
 difference is the ISP, I am with PlusNet and my client is with BT.  Any
 suggestions gratefully received.  (I really don't want to have to go back to
 MAPI g).

   
I'm not sure how this OCX is set up or what it uses for parameters etc.  
Maybe you could show some code.
Is the ocx trying to send using an account that does not exist at the 
client?  Maybe the mail server details are wrong?
What mail server are they using?

Peter



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Re: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Brian Erickson
is the ISP blocking port 25 to the smtp server.  I know that comcast 
does that.

John Weller wrote:
 I recently asked for advice on Automating Emails and, as a result, decided
 to use Essmtp.ocx.  It works like a charm on my development machine but when
 I take it to my client I get an error 213 when I try to send mail.  I can't
 find any trace of what that error message means.  My development system is
 very similar to my client's, they are both four machines on a peer-to-peer
 network sharing internet access through a Netgear router.  The main
 difference is the ISP, I am with PlusNet and my client is with BT.  Any
 suggestions gratefully received.  (I really don't want to have to go back to
 MAPI g).
 
 TIA
 
 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631
 
 
 
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SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Has anyone ever come up with a way to have a SQL statement add a line at 
the end that consists of totals of all the previous lines? Is something 
like that even possible?

For example, if this would be the result of my SQL code:

ID  NameAmount  Tax

4   Matt3   .10
2   Joe 2   .10
5   Tim 6   .10


It would be convenient to have it come out like this:

ID  NameAmount  Tax

4   Matt3   .10
2   Joe 2   .10
5   Tim 6   .10
Total   11  .30


Or something like that

-- 
Matthew S. Jarvis
IT Manager
Bike Friday - Performance that Packs.
www.bikefriday.com
541/687-0487 x140
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Re: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/6/07, John Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On your next visit to the client, bring along a copy of BLAT.exe and
the docs. Set up BLAT on one of the machines in accordance with the
docs. Try running BLAT from the command intepreter and see what error
messages results.  Use the debugging tools (-debug -log)  it gives you
to capture all of the interactions for a session. I usually find that
there is a password authentication scheme that requires a particular
sequence of logging in, and many ISP's mail servers are set up
uniquely in this respect.

And sometimes the clients have just given me the wrong username and password!

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Re: [OT] Yeah, that's about right...

2007-11-06 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Paul Hill wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Hill wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, back to the matter. What in hell does White stand for? Haven't
 heard an explanation from the original users of the word (Paul, Mikey).
 Your genes originate from Europe I guess.
 Only part of them, I have Galician, Spanish, French, German. But I also
 have injun (true American?) genes.

 But really, who cares?
 Everyone who splashes his speech with phrases such as White Christian men?
 
 Who me? I think you're confused..
 

No, I'm not. I didn't say you, you just assumed it.



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Re: SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Cushing
Matthew Jarvis wrote:
 Has anyone ever come up with a way to have a SQL statement add a line at 
 the end that consists of totals of all the previous lines? Is something 
 like that even possible?

 For example, if this would be the result of my SQL code:

 IDNameAmount  Tax

 4 Matt3   .10
 2 Joe 2   .10
 5 Tim 6   .10


 It would be convenient to have it come out like this:

 IDNameAmount  Tax

 4 Matt3   .10
 2 Joe 2   .10
 5 Tim 6   .10
 Total 11  .30


   
AFAIK that is not possible.  The reason being that Select SQL queries 
are either summary OR detailed.  So you can have the detail lines OR the 
summary line but not both.  You could do it if you selected into a 
cursor readwrite, then added the summary line afterwards.  It could get 
awkward for summary totals as well as a grand total.

The report writer does this sort of thing very easily.

Peter



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Re: SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/6/07, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It would be convenient to have it come out like this:

 ID  NameAmount  Tax

 4   Matt3   .10
 2   Joe 2   .10
 5   Tim 6   .10
 Total   11  .30



Select cast(ID, char(5)) as ID, Name, Amount, Tax from mytable
UNION
SELECT Total as ID,  as Name, SUM(Amount) as Amount, SUM(Tax) as
Tax) from mytable group by ID
ORDER BY ID

... but it's a very bad idea.

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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Whil Hentzen
Derek Kalweit wrote:
 Profox:
 
 Hello. Just over 5 years ago, I subscribed to this list. It helped
 see me through the dark days of working with VFP at my day job and
 mastering it as best as a person can master as buggy/incomplete a
 development environment/runtime as VFP. Now the time has come, and my
 boss has finally seen the light that VFP isn't forever, and we're
 making conversions to .NET. First our web product, but more to follow.
 I'm glad to see this for the company and my career as well. I'm amazed
 at how well .NET is just working-- I don't spend more than half my day
 trying to work around stupid limitations and bugs(C0.05's, graphics
 glitches, etc.) as I've often done with VFP. Anyways, seeing as how
 this list is just VFP and Daboo/open source propoganda, I think it's
 time for me to go. Thank you, and if anyone wishes to contact me off
 list, you can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.

Well, shucks.

Seriously, you've had great contributions over the years, both Fox and 
unFox...

Cantcha just hang around for the [NF] stuff? It's not ALL open source 
nonsense, ya know? s

We'll miss you!

Whil


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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Richard Kaye
As Whil suggested, you never know, there might still be some useful 
conversations that happen here that isn't necessarily propoganda...

In any case, good luck to you, Derek.

Derek Kalweit wrote:
 Profox:

 snip this list is just VFP and Daboo/open source propoganda, I think it's
 time for me to go. 

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Re: SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Cushing
Ted Roche wrote:
 Select cast(ID, char(5)) as ID, Name, Amount, Tax from mytable
 UNION
 SELECT Total as ID,  as Name, SUM(Amount) as Amount, SUM(Tax) as
 Tax) from mytable group by ID
 ORDER BY ID

 ... but it's a very bad idea.

   

I knew it wasn't possible!
Well that's actually two queries rolled into one.

Peter :-)



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Re: FP2.6 dos not going full screen

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Hill
On 11/6/07, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/6/07, Paul Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On a related note I noticed on this Vista box I get the message:
 
  This system does not support fullscreen mode.
 
  It's a newish Dell.

 Vista and Dell. That's two strikes. You ought to review 
 http://badvista.fsf.org/

Hey, I didn't choose it!  And I only installed Vista because some
customers were reporting problems.

 Googling yields:

 http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/06/27/workaround-to-this-system-does-not-support-full-screen-mode-in-windows-vista/

 or:

 http://preview.tinyurl.com/3928s8

To be honest I'm really not that bothered...

-- 
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Re: [NF] Juniper SSL and VFP

2007-11-06 Thread Jack Skelley
Good Afternoon All:
After much reading and the trail and error approach I have the login and 
logout automated.
Regards,

Jack Skelley


Jack Skelley wrote:
 Good Morning All:
 We just moved into out new $400 arena in Newark, NJ and it's time to get 
 scouting back up and running.
 In the past we used Checkpoint VPN-1 for scouting communications and I 
 abandoned it with all the IPSEC and NAT issues I have experienced for 
 the last 7 years for Juniper's SSL VPN. There was no sense trying to get 
 the old system working in the new building when I wanted to change to 
 SSL last year.
 I have figured out how to automate the login in VFP6 passing the userid 
 and password to the URL in IE7 and map drives and send and receive data. 
 But I can't get the tunnel to drop within the VFP app without user 
 intervention. I don't want to add another step to the process.
 Does anyone use VFP and Juniper's SSL dsNetworkConnect.exe or the web 
 browser launch to automate the process? I have looked everywhere and 
 Juniper doesn't mention automation...
 Thanks!
 Regards,
 
 Jack Skelley
 
 
 Dave Crozier wrote:
 Al,
 Nothing here still. Did you try the replacement-software.co.uk address as
 well as there is nothing there either? 

 It may be your end as all the profox messages are coming through on both
 Flexipol and replacement-software

 Dave 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Allen
 Sent: 06 November 2007 14:35
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: RE: loader

 ok tried again. It was the exe so probably got stuffed
 changed subject to ladies of the night for you :)
 Al 

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 Behalf Of Dave Crozier
 Sent: 06 November 2007 15:28
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: loader

 Al,
 Not arrived here DaveC at Flexipol.co.uk. If you used loader as the
 subject then it may have been junked by our email filter as loader is the
 subject name of messages that are sent out by a number of viruses. I suggest
 .zi

 No virus found in this outgoing message.
 Checked by AVG Free Edition. 
 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 05/11/2007
 19:11
  



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RE: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Crozier
Paul,
Think this is the link:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/orkXP/HA011362891033.aspx

Dave Crozier


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To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

Paul,
There is an unistaller on the Microsoft site especially for this. Can't
remember off hand what it is called - something on the lines of forced
installer. I can find out when I get home this evening though.

Dave Crozier


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Of Paul Newton
Sent: 06 November 2007 16:11
To: profox
Subject: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

Hi all

I have one copy of Word 2K installed in the usual place on C - it was
installed to this location from Win98, Win2K and WinXP which are in three
different partitions.

Word runs fine from Win98 and Win2K but resfuses to start when run from XP -
the splash screen comes up and never disappears.  The main word screen
appears but completely blank and all I can do is use task manager to shut it
down.

I have tried (i) repairing the office installation (ii) reinstalling office
and (iii) completely unistalling and then reinstalling office.

I have made sure that it is not a template problem (Normal.DOT) and that
there are no COM add-ins.

I have also checked various registry entries and these also seem to be OK.

I have tried to make sure that it is not a printer (driver) problem

I am completely stuck so any suggestions would be highly appreciated

Paul Newton



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Re: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
John Weller wrote:
 I recently asked for advice on Automating Emails and, as a result, decided
 to use Essmtp.ocx.  It works like a charm on my development machine but when
 I take it to my client I get an error 213 when I try to send mail.  I can't
 find any trace of what that error message means.  My development system is
 very similar to my client's, they are both four machines on a peer-to-peer
 network sharing internet access through a Netgear router.  The main
 difference is the ISP, I am with PlusNet and my client is with BT.  Any
 suggestions gratefully received.  (I really don't want to have to go back to
 MAPI g).
   

And BLAT isn't an option for you?

-- 
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MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
http://fabmate.com
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Re: SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Stephen Russell
Sure.

It's called a Union to bring in the separate query with 'Total' as Name, and
dummy values for ID and elsewhere as needed.  I have even added an extra col
for the grouping and or sorting as needed.

I have been faking output like this for years with that trick.

Say how is the brewing?


__Stephen

On 11/6/07, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone ever come up with a way to have a SQL statement add a line at
 the end that consists of totals of all the previous lines? Is something
 like that even possible?

 For example, if this would be the result of my SQL code:

 ID  NameAmount  Tax

 4   Matt3   .10
 2   Joe 2   .10
 5   Tim 6   .10


 It would be convenient to have it come out like this:

 ID  NameAmount  Tax

 4   Matt3   .10
 2   Joe 2   .10
 5   Tim 6   .10
 Total   11  .30


 Or something like that

 --
 Matthew S. Jarvis
 IT Manager
 Bike Friday - Performance that Packs.
 www.bikefriday.com
 541/687-0487 x140
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI
Derek,

My feelings are the same; you should hand around and socialize every
now and then.  However, if not, I wish you the best in the .Net world.

v/r
 

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6th MDG Information System Security Officer
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Subject: Re: Signing off

As Whil suggested, you never know, there might still be some useful 
conversations that happen here that isn't necessarily propoganda...

In any case, good luck to you, Derek.

Derek Kalweit wrote:
 Profox:

 snip this list is just VFP and Daboo/open source propoganda, I think
it's
 time for me to go. 

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Re: SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Andrew Stirling
Matthew
This should do it:

CREATE CURSOR 'curinfo' ;
( ;
id i ,;
namec(20),;
Amount  n(10,2),;
tax n(9,2);
)
INSERT INTO 'curinfo' values(4,'Matt',3,.1)
INSERT INTO 'curinfo' values(2,'Joe',2,.1)
INSERT INTO 'curinfo' values(5,'Tim',6,.1)

SELECT * ;
FROM curinfo ;
UNION ;
select 999 as id, 'Total' as name, ;
SUM(curinfo.amount) as amount, ;
SUM(curinfo.tax) as tax ;
FROM curinfo ;
into cursor curtemp

Andrew Stirling
01250 874580
http://www.calcpay.co.uk
HMRC Accredited UK payroll program


Matthew Jarvis wrote:
 Has anyone ever come up with a way to have a SQL statement add a line at 
 the end that consists of totals of all the previous lines? Is something 
 like that even possible?
 
 For example, if this would be the result of my SQL code:
 
 IDNameAmount  Tax
 
 4 Matt3   .10
 2 Joe 2   .10
 5 Tim 6   .10
 
 
 It would be convenient to have it come out like this:
 
 IDNameAmount  Tax
 
 4 Matt3   .10
 2 Joe 2   .10
 5 Tim 6   .10
 Total 11  .30
 
 
 Or something like that
 



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re: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Joe Yoder
Another troubleshooting option is to simply use telnet to connect to port 
25 on the mail server.  I like this approach because telnet is 
universally available, gives the user complete control, and requires no 
configuration.

Joe Yoder

On Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:03 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:03:37 -0500
From: Ted Roche
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SMTP error

On 11/6/07, John Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On your next visit to the client, bring along a copy of BLAT.exe and
the docs. Set up BLAT on one of the machines in accordance with the
docs. Try running BLAT from the command intepreter and see what error
messages results.  Use the debugging tools (-debug -log)  it gives you
to capture all of the interactions for a session. I usually find that
there is a password authentication scheme that requires a particular
sequence of logging in, and many ISP's mail servers are set up
uniquely in this respect.

And sometimes the clients have just given me the wrong username and password!

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Re: SQL to add a Totals line

2007-11-06 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On 11/6/07, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone ever come up with a way to have a SQL statement add a line at
 the end that consists of totals of all the previous lines? Is something
 like that even possible?

It's not terribly useful for this case, but I wanted to point out the
ROLLUP clause in Transact-SQL, in case the situation comes up later:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms189305.aspx


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VFP9 SOAP/WSDL Blues

2007-11-06 Thread Aida I . Rivera-Benítez , MSMIS
Hi all:

I have to work with a WSDL server to send medical claim files, elegibility
requests, etc.
Started with the easiest thing send a file.  The documentation is in WSDL
and
eventhough I can open the link in the browser and see the WSDL code in the
server side,
the registration process always returns an error with the WSDL file either
invalid, in use or
not found.

So far I have the following code:

IF !USED(commdata)
  SELECT 0
USE commdata ALIAS commdata
  ELSE
SELECT commdata
 ENDIF

LOCAL lcFile AS STRING ,;
lcUsuario AS String ,;
lcPassword AS STRING 

lcUsuario = '' + ALLTRIM(commdata.usuario) + ''
lcPassword = '' + ALLTRIM(commdata.clave) + ''
lcFile = FILETOSTR(c:\temp\claimtest.snd)

oSoap = CREATEOBJECT(mssoap.soapclient)
oSoap.MSSoapInit(https://209.91.228.166:9443/wshippa/services/ProcessHippaM
essage?wsdl)
lcXML = oSoap.processClaim(lcFile,lcUsuario,lcPassword)

lcstringxml = oSoap.processClaimresponse
DO FORM frmmensaje

I'm also getting an error on the MSSoapInit line that the loading of the 
WSDL file failed.

Can some Soap Guru please help me ...somehow this sounds strange ; )


AiR
Aida I. Rivera-Benítez, MSMIS
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Re: [NF] Apples OSX upgrade troubles worsten

2007-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke

I'm no big Microsoft fan Ed, and I also don't have a blanket
unquestioning hatred of everything they do either. 
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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
It would be two exe's in the end anyway so yes and I have done it before. My
problem was I had a clear all in the exit program and it didnt like it
because it could not clear the loader screen. Being that VFP is not capable,
so it seems, of running something else VFP without waiting for it to finish.
For some reason also you cant run a VFP exe as an EXe (as in run/n
other.exe) Dont know why but it does not work. 
Allen

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Can you do the same thing with 2 different exe's???  is that an option???

Allen wrote:
 I dont use apps. only exe's
 I found my problem was a clear all in the exit of the prog. It didnt 
 like the loader being already there.
 Its because the loader runs the exe and wont go away untill the exe
closes.
 I may have to look at a delphi loader. The version part is fine, I 
 have been using the same method for some time now.
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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:21:56 -0600, Whil Hentzen

  mastering it as best as a person can master as buggy/incomplete a
  development environment/runtime as VFP. 

Er, compared to what? Java? .Net before version 2? VB6?

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Re: [NF] Apples OSX upgrade troubles worsten

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Alan Bourke wrote:
 I'm no big Microsoft fan Ed, and I also don't have a blanket
 unquestioning hatred of everything they do either. 
   
Are you implying that Ed does?

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RE: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
Blat is pop3 only isnt it ?
Allen 

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On your next visit to the client, bring along a copy of BLAT.exe and the
docs. Set up BLAT on one of the machines in accordance with the docs. Try
running BLAT from the command intepreter and see what error messages
results.  Use the debugging tools (-debug -log)  it gives you to capture all
of the interactions for a session. I usually find that there is a password
authentication scheme that requires a particular sequence of logging in, and
many ISP's mail servers are set up uniquely in this respect.

And sometimes the clients have just given me the wrong username and
password!

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RE: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
silly me of course its not :)
Allen 

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Blat is pop3 only isnt it ?
Allen 

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RE: VFP9 SOAP/WSDL Blues

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
how are you generating the wsdl. did you change the names in the setup.
rights issue ? as you will probably be logged in as inetuser.
Have you changed the location of the dll ?
Allen 

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Hi all:

I have to work with a WSDL server to send medical claim files, elegibility
requests, etc.
Started with the easiest thing send a file.  The documentation is in WSDL
and
eventhough I can open the link in the browser and see the WSDL code in the
server side,
the registration process always returns an error with the WSDL file either
invalid, in use or
not found.

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Re: [NF] User Acceptance Testing

2007-11-06 Thread Whil Hentzen
Jeff Johnson wrote:
 Michael:  I do a lot small apps for mom  pops and small businesses, 
 too.  I have them look over the software, I show them how to use it and 
 after a couple of days I ask them for feedback.
 
 I also tell the small guys and it is written in my contract that the 
 accuracy of the software is the customer responsibility.  If they don't 
 test the software and tell me about something that doesn't work right; I 
 can't be held responsible.  Others may disagree with this, but it has 
 worked great for me.

But you've got a built-in advantage when working with mom and pops. If 
the software doesn't work, mom can (and WILL) blame pop. Then when mom's 
gone, pop will lean over and whisper to you that SHE was the one with 
the fumble fingers.

Kind of a variation on 'good cop - bad cop'.

Whil


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RE: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
yeah its horrible to keep losing people like this. .net poo all over the
place.
Allen 

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Well, shucks.

Seriously, you've had great contributions over the years, both Fox and
unFox...

Cantcha just hang around for the [NF] stuff? It's not ALL open source
nonsense, ya know? s

We'll miss you!

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
thanks Dave. extra beer in Prague next year :)
Allen 

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Al,
Refoxed Proj just sent back to you.

Dave


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Re: FP2.6 dos not going full screen

2007-11-06 Thread Alan Bourke

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:50:25 -0500, Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 
 http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/06/27/workaround-to-this-system-does-not-support-full-screen-mode-in-windows-vista/

Blimey, I didn't realise this was the case with Vista. I suppose you
could change font etc the shortcut properties of the DOS app so that it
starts as near to a full-screen sized windows as possible. I have used
DosBOX for games, and it certainly runs FoxPro for DOS if memory serves.
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RE: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
I have had some issues using a pocketpc with SMTP. What was wrong there was
it is an authorised SMTP and sometimes it just allows you to use the same as
pop3 for logging on and other times it may require the username and password
to be put in. Try combinations of no password / normal password and setting
the password. Just a thought

Allen

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is the ISP blocking port 25 to the smtp server.  I know that comcast does
that.

John Weller wrote:
 I recently asked for advice on Automating Emails and, as a result, 
 decided to use Essmtp.ocx.  It works like a charm on my development 
 machine but when I take it to my client I get an error 213 when I try 
 to send mail.  I can't find any trace of what that error message 
 means.  My development system is very similar to my client's, they are 
 both four machines on a peer-to-peer network sharing internet access 
 through a Netgear router.  The main difference is the ISP, I am with 
 PlusNet and my client is with BT.  Any suggestions gratefully 
 received.  (I really don't want to have to go back to MAPI g).
 

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Re: [OT] The actual surge

2007-11-06 Thread Pete Theisen
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 10:59, Ed Leafe wrote:
   Recent Troop Deaths Make 2007 Deadliest Year of Iraq War for U.S.

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119435614156283877.html?
 mod=googlenews_wsj
 ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/39kslo )

   So we know that the surge is working. We just aren't sure for whom
 it's working yet.

Hi Ed!

What happened to the profox profox login?

Overall the surge is working. In the earlier part of the year deaths were up 
but the last few days and weeks they are down. Is the glass half empty or 
half full?

http://tinyurl.com/22dg8w
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Re: [NF] Apples OSX upgrade troubles worsten

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

 I'm no big Microsoft fan Ed, and I also don't have a blanket
 unquestioning hatred of everything they do either.

So you're saying that in these respects you're no different than I am.

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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 6, 2007, at 2:09 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote:

 I wasn't even going to bother going there---you're not going to change
 his mind.

Especially when he has been trying to get his company to change  
their mind for years!

 Regardless, we all thank him for his offerings here over the years.

Editing in VFP is painful without VariSense.

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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Allen wrote:
 yeah its horrible to keep losing people like this. .net poo all over the
 place.
 Allen 
   

This shouldn't surprise anyone.  Reality check.  One of these statements 
is NOT true:

* DotNet will continue to grow
* VFP will continue to shrink
* One day, that asteroid WILL hit the earth and kill all/most life
  as we know it
* That hot blonde WILL be interested in me when she's sober and her
  friend will get together with us for an incredible time


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Re: [NF] Apples OSX upgrade troubles worsten

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Nov 6, 2007, at 1:23 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

   
 I'm no big Microsoft fan Ed, and I also don't have a blanket
 unquestioning hatred of everything they do either.
 

   So you're saying that in these respects you're no different than I am.

   

...but does he look hot in that dress???  g

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Re: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread MB Software Solutions
Alan Bourke wrote:
 On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:21:56 -0600, Whil Hentzen

   
 mastering it as best as a person can master as buggy/incomplete a
 development environment/runtime as VFP. 
   

 Er, compared to what? Java? .Net before version 2? VB6?

   
I wasn't even going to bother going there---you're not going to change 
his mind.  Regardless, we all thank him for his offerings here over the 
years.

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RE: VFP9 SOAP/WSDL Blues

2007-11-06 Thread Aida I . Rivera-Benítez , MSMIS
Hi Allen:

Don't have any say on the server side, have to deal with whatever
the insurance company does, so don't have control over the dlls nor
generate the wsdl.  What I'm trying to do for now is just send them a
file.


AiR

how are you generating the wsdl. did you change the names in the setup.
rights issue ? as you will probably be logged in as inetuser. Have you
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Re: VFP9 SOAP/WSDL Blues

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/6/07, Aida I.  Rivera-Benítez, MSMIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can some Soap Guru please help me ...somehow this sounds strange ; )


Hello, Aida:

Yes, SOAP guru sounds very strange.

It's been a while since I read WSDLs, but I think the WDDL declares
that all three parameters are sent as one complex type. I don't
recall what the trick is to merge your three strings together so that
you can send them all as one. You might try something as simple as
comma-separating all three parameters in one string parameter instead.
Or, I could be out to lunch...

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RE: loader

2007-11-06 Thread Dan Neuman
Really?  I have been doing this for years.

3 foxpro exes.
1. Start.exe, which is a smart xcopy feature and runs the destination
exe.
2. Swap.exe, which is used if start.exe is updated.
3. Application.exe, which is my application that is called from
Start.exe with a line of ! /n path\application.exe

As the application is running I look at task manager and Start.exe is
NOT in the list.


Thanks,
Dan Neuman

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On Behalf Of Allen
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: loader

It would be two exe's in the end anyway so yes and I have done it
before. My
problem was I had a clear all in the exit program and it didnt like it
because it could not clear the loader screen. Being that VFP is not
capable,
so it seems, of running something else VFP without waiting for it to
finish.
For some reason also you cant run a VFP exe as an EXe (as in run/n
other.exe) Dont know why but it does not work. 
Allen

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Can you do the same thing with 2 different exe's???  is that an
option???

Allen wrote:
 I dont use apps. only exe's
 I found my problem was a clear all in the exit of the prog. It didnt 
 like the loader being already there.
 Its because the loader runs the exe and wont go away untill the exe
closes.
 I may have to look at a delphi loader. The version part is fine, I 
 have been using the same method for some time now.
 Allen
 

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RE: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread John Weller
Thanks - I'll check with the ISP in the morning.

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631 

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 is the ISP blocking port 25 to the smtp server.  I know that comcast 
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Re: SMTP error

2007-11-06 Thread Paul McNett
John Weller wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Erickson
 Sent: 06 November 2007 16:49
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SMTP error
 
 is the ISP blocking port 25 to the smtp server.  I know that comcast 
 does that.

  Thanks - I'll check with the ISP in the morning.

Don't bother calling the isp and wasting your time until you've found 
out if the isp is indeed blocking port 25. Find out by opening a command 
window and issuing:


c:\telnet mail.paulmcnett.com 25
Connecting to mail.paulmcnett.com...Could not open connection to the 
host, on port 25: Connect failed


Okay, so my ISP (ATT DSL) is blocking port 25. Actually, it could be 
one of my firewalls but I happen to know that isn't the case.[1] Point 
being, I can't get out onto the internet on port 25 (smtp).

If I had gotten out, I'd have seen:


c:\telnet mail.paulmcnett.com 25
Connecting to mail.paulmcnett.com...
220 mail.paulmcnett.com ESMTP Postfix


If you find that your isp does block port 25, your options include 
setting up a relay smtp server. I've set one up for my use, that listens 
on port 8025 (try telnetting to mail.paulmcnett.com 8025). This allows 
certain clients of mine behind restrictive isp's to still have 
mailservers in-house that relay over 8025 to my server that actually 
sends the mail.


[1] If I didn't know that was the case, I'd bring my laptop over to the 
dsl router, and plug it in directly, and then I'd go to my OS's firewall 
and temporarily disable it, and try the telnet test again.

-- 
pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com


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Re: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Newton
Many thanks (again), Dave !

Dave Crozier wrote:
 Paul,
 There is an unistaller on the Microsoft site especially for this. Can't
 remember off hand what it is called - something on the lines of forced
 installer. I can find out when I get home this evening though.

 Dave Crozier


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 To: profox
 Subject: [NF] WinWord (2000) problem

 Hi all

 I have one copy of Word 2K installed in the usual place on C - it was
 installed to this location from Win98, Win2K and WinXP which are in three
 different partitions.

 Word runs fine from Win98 and Win2K but resfuses to start when run from XP -
 the splash screen comes up and never disappears.  The main word screen
 appears but completely blank and all I can do is use task manager to shut it
 down.

 I have tried (i) repairing the office installation (ii) reinstalling office
 and (iii) completely unistalling and then reinstalling office.

 I have made sure that it is not a template problem (Normal.DOT) and that
 there are no COM add-ins.

 I have also checked various registry entries and these also seem to be OK.

 I have tried to make sure that it is not a printer (driver) problem

 I am completely stuck so any suggestions would be highly appreciated

 Paul Newton



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RE: Signing off

2007-11-06 Thread Allen
well it may be the case when people fall in line with the guiants telling
you what to do. But I have not given up VFP yet. yet
And I dont know about .net either. Just because M$ say its getting there
does not mean it is.
And dont believe all you hear about hot blonds either. Red heads are much
better :)
Allen 

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This shouldn't surprise anyone.  Reality check.  One of these statements is
NOT true:

* DotNet will continue to grow
* VFP will continue to shrink
* One day, that asteroid WILL hit the earth and kill all/most life
  as we know it
* That hot blonde WILL be interested in me when she's sober and her
  friend will get together with us for an incredible time


Are you smart enough to know the answer?

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