Re: [NF] Network tool
James E Harvey wrote: Is there a Free tool that will enabled a user to create a report (Excel?) of folders/files on a file server with size information. Overnight someone on the network added over 15 gigs on our file server, and I thought if I could run a report showing each folder for its size, etc., I may quickly determine the culprit. This is a pretty cool graphical viewer. (WinDirStat) http://lifehacker.com/software/disk-space/geek-to-live--visualize-your-hard-drive-usage-219058.php I'm not sure it's exactly what you're looking for; I ran it on Windows a while back and I don't remember if it produces text/XL output as well. What would be VERY cool - and productive, once you find the culprit - is if you could hack WinDirStat and put the user's faces in the boxes representing disk space usage :) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Network tool
Matthew Jarvis wrote: James E Harvey wrote: Is there a Free tool that will enabled a user to create a report (Excel?) of folders/files on a file server with size information. Overnight someone on the network added over 15 gigs on our file server, and I thought if I could run a report showing each folder for its size, etc., I may quickly determine the culprit. James E Harvey is it by chance a Linux server? If so the du command piped to a text file should help. I've done the same thing you're doing a time or two... And following my graphical nudge along - File View under Konqueror will display the same WinDirStat thing for a specified folder. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Network tool
James E Harvey wrote: i've downloaded, ran it against our f drive, and it works, thanks much. Ya gonna tell us the guilty party??? Your CEO have a new cache of N'Sync and Hanson videos??? bg James E Harvey Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc. M.I.S./Corresponding Officer Off: 717-637-8931 fax: 717-637-6766 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Cully Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:59 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Network tool I've uploaded the file. Depending on Ed's work load, it'll be up there shortly. http://leafe.com/dls/vfp -Kevin CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of FoxForward 2007 foxforward.net David Crooks wrote: On Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:38 PM Kevin Cully wrote: I have created a (rough) tool in VFP called DirSpace that you point to a folder and it sums up all of the space used in the subdirectories from that point and gives a simple browse window. I use it all the time in helping me decide what to clean up. Let me know if you would like a copy. Sounds like a nice utility to put on Ed's DL folder... David L. Crooks [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Help
Stan Gilbertson wrote: I have a project to write a program for some type of wireless phone/pda, where their will be a file down loaded (small) and about 10 question for each record with about 5 or 6 chooses , then the file response will be moved back to the host app. Are there any phone/pda's that FoxPro will run on. Christof W is working on just such a thing. http://www.foxpert.com/ See the last paragraph on the main page. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problems galore
This weekend I said goodbye to Outlook and set up Thunderbird with Lightning. Navigating Thunderbird is lightning fast and it has everything I use from Outlook. I transfered in all of my mail, calendar and contacts. There are even some things I set up in Thunderbird that I couldn't (or didn't know how to) do with Outlook. And the thing I like is that TB runs on both Windows and Linux. I've got two boxes, both dual boot, and all four configs are set up to access the same mail store. And in TB 2.0, check out the gmail option. Very nifty. I would be interested to know how Mozilla can produce great products that work without the all of the controls to keep people from stealing them? Well, we've been through this a hundred times. Ever build anything and send it out into the community for free/fun? Some people watch Packer games. Some people lead week-long trips into the wilderness with their Scout troop. Some people organize bake sales for their local church. Some people write software. Once you get past the immediate requirements of shelter, food, sex, safety... people want to belong to a community and contribute. Being part of the Mozilla organization, or the Apache group, or the Drupal folks, whether it be slinging C code, doing testing, writing doc... The reason these products work is that these organizations are a meritocracy. No (well, fairly little) political nonsense. You write good code, you get better projects and more interesting/tougher pieces. You write crap, you go to work for a company where you can BS your way through your job. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problems galore
Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problems galore: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070825-windows-genuine-advantage-suffers-worldwide-outage-problems-galore.html Everyone knows that this is undoubtedly the work of those open source communists. I'm sure we'll see Balmer place the blame along these lines next week. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Put my Fista in your Vista
Chloe, NOW! We're running out of time! THAT'S a level-1 crisis. Whil Allen wrote: Ive been living in france too long, I didn’t understand that at all. :) Allen On Aug 24, 2007, at 3:52 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: What, no Windows 3.1? G - No, but who can beat the speed of DOAS apps? Thanks to all -- I'll check out Virtual PC and the rest. Now my most pressing job is to procrastinate making this move as long as possible -- at least until it is a level-1 crisis. Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question
Dave Crozier wrote: Whil, All new routers/switches will now autosense connections so you no longer need to use the crossover cable or buy a switch with a special downlink/uplink port. Just tried it, works like a charm. Ain't this newfanlged technology jes' amazing? Whil Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: 23 August 2007 21:08 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: [NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question There are a series of animals out there called 10/100/1000 Mbps Gigabit Desktop Switches. 8 ports in the back, say, use one for your firewall or router and the rest are for your boxes. It seems to me that you can daisy chain these guys, but I don't recall the specifics. If you had two of these switches, can you just plug one into another, in essence making it a 16 port switch (albeit with two power cords, etc.) A long time ago, I think you had to flip a switch (terminator or crossover or something?) but, as you can tell, (1) my memory is fuzzy, and (2) I don't know jack about this anyway. Whil [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question
There are a series of animals out there called 10/100/1000 Mbps Gigabit Desktop Switches. 8 ports in the back, say, use one for your firewall or router and the rest are for your boxes. It seems to me that you can daisy chain these guys, but I don't recall the specifics. If you had two of these switches, can you just plug one into another, in essence making it a 16 port switch (albeit with two power cords, etc.) A long time ago, I think you had to flip a switch (terminator or crossover or something?) but, as you can tell, (1) my memory is fuzzy, and (2) I don't know jack about this anyway. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question
You won't see any appreciable difference under normal use of two cascaded switches as opposed to one big switch. And this isn't a big Beowulf cluster type of operation, either. :) Just think how rich I could be by selling people stuff they don't need. Like the people who sell other folks Vista? Ooops, me bad. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question
Rick Quilhot wrote: Depends on, if the switch has an 'uplink' port. At the very worst you might have to use a x-over cable. Ah, that's the term I was looking for - uplink port. Well, it's been four days and the RMA folks STILL haven't bothered to get a new box out of the warehouse for me. Looks like it's time to visit the big box store down the street and then cancel the credit card charge for next day RMA service. Jerks. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: cancel the credit card charge for next day RMA service. Jerks. Oh, silly you: you thought next day meant tomorrow instead of the next day that we happen to get around to it. It is all just semantics, really. THAT is a good line. It's going to get published. :) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Put my Fista in your Vista
Vince Teachout wrote: Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: So I seek your sage advice: What is the *least painful* way to do it: VMWare installed on your computer, then run vista? BTW, dual boot is not that hard anymore, especially if you have linux. Dual boot as long as one of them is Linux, yes, it's pretty easy. But as I recall, Windows sure does like being installed first. That's French for I spent a week trying to get WIndows installed on a Linux box and found the best way was to format World: and start over with a Windows box that I then added Linux to. How a Windows box would react when adding ANOTHER Windows to... dunno, but I bet it'd be pretty scary. Kinda like having Bill Gates in front of you in a serve yourself buffet. OK, back to the original question... first things first. You do not have enough RAM or hard disk space or processor speed or vidcard muscle, to say nothing of the patience. So I would argue you'd need a new box with all the muscle you can afford. Start with RAM. Then (opposed to popular wisdom), lots of CPU. And then plan on 40GB just for Vista. Or maybe 50. Oh, and then put more RAM in, just in case. Put Vista on first, then add Linux, and use it as your Linux box except'in when you need Windows. (This comes from someone who does NOT get along with VMs.) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Stupid networking question - actually, stupid hardware question
Derek Kalweit wrote: You won't see any appreciable difference under normal use of two cascaded switches as opposed to one big switch. With switches, particularly with only 2, you won't see a difference. WIth hubs, you should only string 2 or 3 along(they should be tree-topology if you need more), I believe it is(or so says Ethernet spec). Whil, many of the newer switches have ports that automatically detect, or they have uplink ports. Just plug the uplink of one to a regular port of the other-- you'll get lights on both to indicate it's working. If there's no uplink port, try port to port-- if you get a light, you're good. If you don't, get a crossover cable(or make one, just remember-- all 8 conductors for gigabit) and use that, which will definitely work... Perfect, just the info I was looking for. Now I get to play in the server room for a while... Whil (Who didn't really mean 'play'.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Richard Kaye wrote: And let me add that browsing on any device with a screen this small (leaving aside the religious experience that is the iPhone) is essentially an exercise in frustration for anything other than the most basic needs. Richard, Dave, Couldja do me a quick, 5 minute favor? If you've got a gmail account, use your Treo to log in Google Calendar and see if it works? I've read varying accounts (mytreo.net, for example) on whether Blazer will render google calendar at all. We can get it to sort of show up on a Mobile Web 2.0 (Verizon Product) but it's highly limited. I understand that it won't be like viewing on a 19 flat screen g, but for reference and look up purposes, it should be usable. There's even a 'quick add' feature in google cal that allows you to type something like dinner w/ wife tomorrow 7 pm and it will translate this into the correct entry. Pretty nice, actually. But the Verizon folks are clueless (BIG surprise) and the research on the Web conflicts. I don't want to commit to $45/mo only to find out that GCal is still a work in progress. :) And I don't want to write my own web-based calendar app either. :( Well, I'd like to write it. I don't want to support it. BG Ken: We've been playing around with using multiple calendars and it looks like this might be a workable (although not optimal) solution right now. Essentially, each family member has their own calendar, and then you all share your calendars with each other. Then when you look at your calendar, you can see other folks events in different colors, but all on the same calendar. We've found one glitch with the google cal and SMS, but this feature is SO limited (you can only get your own calendar's events, even if you're sharing other people's cals, and you can only get the next 24 hrs of events) that we're not even going to do any more investigation on it. I have not looked at printing, because I'm a New Age, High Tech kind of guy. Me and my IBM 3270 phone, that is. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Richard Kaye wrote: I just tried this and it works after a fashion. You have to have javascript installed/enabled in Blazer, which can be a bit of a feat in That was one thing that people were arguing about on the mytreo forum. :) itself. The first time it went to the calendar page it downloaded at least 1/2MB of stuff before giving me an error page indicating that the browser couldn't load the page so you better have that unlimited data plan. I followed the first suggestion there to clear the cache and poked at it a bit and it did bring up my calendar. Finally, it was slow but I find most pages in Blazer to be slow in rendering, even if designed for WAP. So, to confirm, what you were looking at was the full google calendar, not the mobile version that Ted pointed out, right? Thanks for poking around. This is looking like a VERY expensive week for me g. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences (and Google Calendar)
Richard Kaye wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: That was one thing that people were arguing about on the mytreo forum. :) I think I tried to do this right after I first set up my google calendar and had given up on it. I must have gotten it right though because it does work. So, to confirm, what you were looking at was the full google calendar, not the mobile version that Ted pointed out, right? No. It's the mobile version. It's my understanding that there's something in there that recognizes you're browsing from a mobile device and it routes you to the WAP pages instead of the full blown calendar. It basically gives you a compressed display with the date on one line followed by one line for each event on that day. The events are linked to the event detail page where I now see the changes I just made to the description but I do not see the very exclusive guest list. Ah. Yes, that's how I understand it too - at least, that's how I was explaining it to my technology impaired better 2/3rds. You can manually navigate to the mobile page via the link that Ted posted earlier this morning while trying to avoid client work. Did I just say that? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences
Dave Thayer wrote: On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) The Treo... Palm OS or Windows OS. OK, that's a no-brainer. But I'm wondering about the Palm OS client that runs on the PC. I'm certain I saw that they have a Linux client, but I can't find any obvious links. I also know they're working on a Linux OS for their mobile devices, but right now I'm just interested in syncing up the Treo to a Linux PC. I've never heard of anything from Palm Inc. for linux, but there are a lot of 3rd party linux apps for syncing. I like jpilot because it is nice and light-weight. There is a program called jppy which handles some of the palm OS5 extensions to the address book and calendar. I'm pretty sure that the KDE and Gnome PIM apps will sync with a palmos device, but I'm not a fan of the big desktop environments so I have no experience with these. I'm not sure I personally care about syncing up to the desktop. But maybe others here would be. I didn't know what type of client side apps the Palm talks to. Well, we're all standardized on Fedora, so one solution will fit all of us, whatever that might be. My plan is to use a web-based app, like gCalendar, that can be accessed both via desktop but also via the mobile. I hear you, Richard, about the tiny screen being an exercise in frustration, but it'd still be access, compared to not having any at all. I would expect to do 95% of editing the calendar from the desktop and use the mobile for r/o access. It'd also be nice to have multi-person communications to alert about changes to the calendar. Now that #4 and #5 are in school all day, the calendar around here is just a nightmare to maintain. :) This is truly the killer app for us. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences
Richard Kaye wrote: And let me add that browsing on any device with a screen this small (leaving aside the religious experience that is the iPhone) is essentially an exercise in frustration for anything other than the most basic needs. My primary goal is a joint calendar, and read-only for all practical purposes. I'd probably email myself a reminder to update the calendar rather than try to update through the browser, but we'll see. I'm fully expecting Google Calendar to be fairly robust on a mobile screen. Compared to, say, ESPN or something else that expects 12x10 res. :) From there, then we'll see what else is usable Richard Kaye wrote: I've been using Palm devices since the days of the Palm III. A couple years ago when my last Palm device (Sony Clie) started to crap out, I I had been a Palm user for a while, I think I had a II and a V (that nifty very slim guy with the curved sides). But just as a PIM, well, I just wasn't away from my desk THAT much that I used it for more than the calendar and the (fairly weak) to do list. My To Do list could probably give Brian Jones a few ideas about logistics. :) So when it died, I just didn't replace it. Actually, the sync with Windows was so shaky that it was fairly easy to go back to paper, but I DO miss having the yearly and more calendar with me. decided to go with a Treo so I could stop carrying around 2 devices. In general, I've been pleased with it although it is a bit on the bulky Bingo. Right now, camera, to do list, phone... I carry a backpack with me and it's a pain. One device would be great, even though it is a bit bigger than my current phone, it's ONE DEVICE. :) side. I have a 650. OTOH what I like or dislike undoubtedly has very little in common with a teenage girl. And we all thank you for that. On the voice side, I've got a plan that gives me 900 minutes per month, which I never use. We have a family plan with about 1000 minutes, and we don't usually get very close to that, but for the extra $10/mo, it's much better than going down a level that we would probably break and then get nailed for. I have an unlimited data plan to go along with it. This is probably the biggest issue - data plan. That's $45/mo. PER LINE. With five lines here well, wow. That's kind of expensive just for a joint, mobile calendar. But it feels like it's almost worth it. My phone came with Versamail and it was trivial to add email accounts on it although I mainly use it for my gmail. This will vary depending on your provider. (My phone came from ATT. I know, everyone here seems to enjoy bashing them but for the most part I have no complaints.) I have a colleague, whose phone came from Verizon, and the email app they included was a royal PITA to set up. We're a Verizon family since 2001 and have been happy with them. They're sort of dorks wrt billing and all that, but we virtually never have to deal with them, so it's been OK. The service - we have just about no complaints with, so we figure we'll continue on. If the email app is that bad, then it looks like a topic for another book! Wow, from FoxPro to Treo/Verizon. Looks like a winner. Can't speak to the Linux part of the equation (although I did just install Ubuntu 7.04 on my home play... umm server box last weekend). I know I saw some Palm stuff available but haven't gone any further with it. I think I said this - I don't think I'm going to do a LOT of syncing on the desktop, but that might change too. I look at syncing on the desktop as a way of backing up the mobile more than anything else. What would be really great is to be able to download the google calendar data to the mobile in the event that you can connect; you'd still have your data with you. That sounds like an app worth writing, actually. And with a Palm, it might work. :) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences
Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2007 12:46, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Richard Kaye wrote: And let me add that browsing on any device with a screen this small (leaving aside the religious experience that is the iPhone) is essentially an exercise in frustration for anything other than the most basic needs. My primary goal is a joint calendar, and read-only for all practical purposes. I'd probably email myself a reminder to update the calendar Hi Whil! Did you say 5 kids? Seems one of the kids could be placed in charge of maintaining the family portion of the calender. OK, email someone else. :) Yeah, like they'd remember. The kids are already going 30 different directions at once. If they can't keep their room clean or do their weekly chores, how likely would it be that they'd take on this chore - particularly in a timely manner :) Don't want to put too much on dad's shoulders. Teenagers, on the other hand, need an outlet for their energy. Work is good for kids. Yes, it is! We have a big backyard and 4 days of rain to dig out from under. And forty 50-lb bags of sand to dump in the sandbox. You won't find ME doing that. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences
Ted Roche wrote: On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that begs the question: How the hell does SHE get such a bitchin' device while I'm stuck back in the 1960s? Cause she's not OLLD! How about an iPhone? Synching family calendars via iCal is supposed to be drop-dead easy. For the same reason that I would never get a regular phone in pink, or sky blue, or orange, or chocolate. iPhones are for teenagers who don't write complete sentences or spell words with all of their letters. Sorry, but like you said, I'm an old fart, and dadgummit, I'm gonna stay that way. Seriously, I just don't trust ATT's half of the equation. And I don't think an iPhone is an acceptable email device. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Palm Treo experiences
Ted Roche wrote: On 8/20/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So that begs the question: How the hell does SHE get such a bitchin' device while I'm stuck back in the 1960s? Cause she's not OLLD! How about an iPhone? Synching family calendars via iCal is supposed to be drop-dead easy. More about ATT's corporate sub-moronic behavior: For their part, ATT insists that they will cut off anyone they find who lives in an area not served by ATT wireless (which is actually a fairly large area), or anyone who uses more than 40% of their iPhone time on roaming networks. http://techdirt.com/articles/20070817/105911.shtml Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] These big monitors are so cheap now (add lots of exclamation marks)
True story: My wife has my big ol' 21 Sony CRT that I bought for well over $2,000 in the mid-90s. It's a gorgeous monitor, a workhouse, worth every penny I paid for it, and I've gotten way more than my money's worth out of it. Now in 2007, it's still working flawlessly. But it's as big as a house, and she seems to think that a flat panel will give her more room on her desk. (she uses an 8' door on top of two files cabinets as a desk, and has so much garbage on it that the last time she saw the surface of the desk, the year didn't have a 7 in it. Or a 6. But nag away enough and, OK, she'll get a flat screen. I go looking for one and lo-and-behold you pretty much just can't find them anymore. And then I get to thinking... how about if she gets one of 19 flat screens and I upgrade to a big ol' sucker that I'll have to reinforce the walls before I can hang it on them. Hey, how about it? So a pair of 22 widescreens show up yesterday at 6:03 pm. I'm gonna rip out the pair of 19 4:3s, running 12x10, and put these in their place. How hard could it be? Well, the combo of FC6, ATI Rad/Mob and this VS 22 widescreen isn't getting along too well. I've found a driver on the ATI Linux site (ahem, hear that, nVidia?), but haven't gotten around to messing with it. It appears to be broke for FC6 but the 7 version looks promising. And then I go to the Windows box... only to find out that the T30 that I'm running VFP9 on was a 'bargain' in more ways than one. Top res on the ATI card in that box is 12x10, and no amount of screaming and hollering is going to get anything close to a decent looking display out of it with a widescreen. So that box now becomes my new test box, and I've got a new TP T61 with a bazillion bytes of RAM and a hard disk that's even bigger on the way. Supposedly the res on this new box is 17,200 x 15,580, or something like that. It should last a couple of years. So this plan of getting the wife one of these dirt cheap $200 flat screens for her desk has now run me two 22 widescreens$690 new Thinkpad...$ 2,400 dinner [1] $ 87 plate glass window [2].$318 new gym shoes for #2 son [3]...$ 26 shopping spree at Talbots [4]..$500 lost business [5]..$ 37,200 initial estimate...$209 difference.$ 41,002 [1] placate wife after she finds out she's getting another hand-me down and I'm getting two new monitors AND a new computer [2] tripped on gym shoe of #2 son at 1 in the morning and sent it through the plate glass window in the hall [3] can't find the gym shoe that went through the window [4] dinner wasn't enough [5] estimated cost of losing client after telling her how silly her request to have flashing command buttons was Eventually having a cooler setup than Derek or Ed: priceless. Whil P.S. the original post got shit-canned for obvious reasons ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] These big monitors are so cheap now (add lots of exclamation marks)
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 17, 2007, at 8:16 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Eventually having a cooler setup than Derek or Ed: priceless. Me? A single 19 flat screen is cool? It's probably one of those clear plexiglass Apple monitors that looks like it's floating in thin air. Yeah, that's cool. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Tech Extremists
Ed Leafe wrote: http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/998b.gif And no, that's not me! Duh. No glasses. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Knoppix (book) question...
Vince Teachout wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: (1) Sketch out the last two chapters, then wait until 5.2 releases and revise every chapter so they all look brand spanking new. This is not necessarily a trivial effort, what with the plumbing changes Klaus has made. (2) Finish the book as a 5.0 book, and by the time I'm all done witht that, hope he's done and then add chapters on the end devoted to 5.2 changes. MHO would be that option 1 would be best, but option 2 would be more realistic. Can you write Klaus and get hold of a beta version? BTW, will you book cover why, in version 4.0.2 and prior, I could boot up in Knoppix, open a browser and start web browsing, but I can't in any version after 4.0.2? That irks me. I'm still using 4.0.2 because of that. It will not cover backwards compatibility. :) When you say, I can't in any version what do you mean? a) there is no browser b) there is a browser but when I navigate to a site, I get an error message that says fill in c) some other reason Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Knoppix (book) question...
Ted Roche wrote: On 8/16/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm trying to figure out what to do. How about Kontacting Klaus and Kwizzing him about Kompletion and Konvincing him to Kooperate with you on shipping a Day-and-Date book? The day we ship a day-and-date book is the day you can take me out back and shoot me. - Tim O'Reilly, Waterside Publishing conference, 2001. Shipping a 5.0 book when 5.2 ships seems like bad business. However, you're not expecting a big burst of orders from BN or Amazon for the book are you? What are you goals? Take the money and run? A Book for the Ages? Something in between? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm just kinda in the mode to write these days, so should take advantage of it. I think I'll give Klaus a holler and see how close he is, and whether I should wait. I wrote a book once on a beta product. It was unpleasant. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Knoppix (book) question...
Andy Davies wrote: I wrote a book once on a beta product. It was unpleasant. Whil It certainly was - it was VFP3 (right?) Yes, that was the one. actually the BOOK was OK ... If you look at some of the screen shots in the middle of the book, you'll find a few with the memory manager icon showing in the lower corner of the screen. I had to run VFP 3 beta with that thing running all the time else I'd forget and it would crash rather ungloriously, and I'd lose the last 30 minutes of work. When all the bars were red or yellow, I'd save one last time, shut down and reboot the box. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Writing DVDs
I feel like I oughta get a corncob pipe, a straw hat, some bib overalls, and start pickin' Duellin' Banjos when I ask this question I never done and gone wrote a DVD before, and I shore am plumb skeered to try, aina-hey. I'ma fixin' to get hooked up to a box with the following: 0670368 16X DVD+/-RW (LS/DL/DF) No S/W 1 RN851AV which sure looks like it's a DVD writer to me, wouldcha y'all say? OK, s'pposin' thet it 'tis, next I gotta go out thar and buy me some of them DVD blanks, doncha know. Any tips? The Best Buy 'round these parts has 'bout fifty different kinds. Whil P.S. I honest-to-god was in a meeting with a bunch of IS folks once where the lead IT guy said, We bin fixin' to get ourselves a new server for some time now. I swear I am not making this up. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Knoppix (book) question...
Under 4.02 and prior, Knoppix will magiliciously discover and set up the router, internet settings, etc, and as soon as I fired up the browser, off I go. Ditto for e-mail, gaim, etc, etc. Now when I start up, none of them can connect to the internet. I'm sure I can go into setup and get internet to work, but I've been too busy throwing a hissy fit and whining to mess with it. Plus, it'a a PITA when you're using a live CD, as your settings disappear every time you reboot. (yes, I know I can save settings, but pitching a hissy fit is more fun.) Hmmm. And you're so cute when pitching one of them thar fits, too, wouldn't do for us to dissuade you from continuing. I'll have to go back and look-see what I do. It seems to me that Knoppix 5 for me does magiliciously know. (THAT is a great word!) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP: Slow work periods
Alan Bourke wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: that means they'll be outsourced soon to the next cheaper country. g Pakistan probably. What luck! We just got hit a barrage of bogus orders last night from Pakistan. The name and address on the credit cards attempted were all Wisconsin (how curious!) but the IP was Pakistan. Do you think a cheesehead ex-pat is living in Karachi is in dire need of FoxPro books? I don't think so either. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Shopping for a new monitor
Hi gang, I've been using a pair of ViewSonic 19 flat panels with built-in speakers on my desk for several years. They're great. One is my Windows box; first W2K and now XP. The other is for my Linux box; first SuSE 9 and 10, and now Fedora 6. They've both run flawlessly since day one. Both are set at 12x10. It's now time to hand these monitors down to other folks and set myself up with some new toys. I was just going to get new versions of these guys, but then it struck me, hey, why not get greedy? What about 21 monitors? Or even bigger? They're so inexpensive now... But as I scan newegg, the rage seems to be widescreen monitors. Here are a couple of examples: ViewSonic 28 3ms(GTG) HDMI W/ HDCP Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920 x 1200, 800:1, D-Sub HDMI ViewSonic 24 8ms(GTG) HDMI W/ HDCP Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920 x 1200, 1000:1, D-Sub DVI HDMI ViewSonic 19 2ms Widescreen, 1440x900, 700:1 (typ), 2000:1 (DCR), D-Sub DVI Questions: I don't seen any point to Widescreen. I'm not much of a 'watch movies on my comptuer' kind of guy. Anybody have another reason why a widescreen would be a good choice? 800:1 vs 1000:1 vs 700:1? Do I care? D-Sub DVI vs D-Sub DVI HDMI? Again, do I care? Dammit, Jim, I'm a programmer, not an artist. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Card decks - the ultimate story
One of you ne'er-do-wells just dragged my name through the mud regarding card decks. Just for that, I'm gonna subject you to the best story regarding computer programs on decks ever. OK, the scene is Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Fall of 1976. (Never heard of it? Look it up on the US News World Report college ranking under 'undergraduate engineering programs' http://www.rose-hulman.edu/news/articles/usnews081806.htm.) This is important because you need to understand that this school prides itself on being more nerdly than MIT or CalTech. Sidebar: I was down in the basement of my dorm one night doing laundry, when I heard a commotion in the rec room down the hall. These two guys are playing ping-pong with a half-dozen others watching, and they're arguing. Very loudly, very heated, was getting pretty nasty, involving the relative 'quality' of each other's mothers, the nocturnal habits of their sisters, that sort of thing. The topic of the argument: Which was 'better' - integral calculus or differential calculus. Yes, this is where I went to undergrad, and this is the home of this story. So, it's the third week of school, freshman year. We have about 45 guys living on the second floor of Speed Hall (evidently Grover Speed gave a bunch of money to the school a while back.) This school is 6 miles outside of Terre Haute, which other than being the home of ISU, where Larry Bird failed to beat Michigan State in 1978, has absolutely nothing going for it. So the school has this small town feel - not a lot of locked doors, a lot of friendliness, that sort of thing. A co-Badger, Jack, is down the hall, working on his Chemistry homework. Jack had the unfortunate problem of being an all-state (alternate) quarterback and prom king in high school while at the same time scoring mid-1400s on his SATs. His roommate, John, occupied the other end of the social spectrum. While most of us had vinyl collections that included Ted Nugent, Aerosmith and Lynyrd Skynyrd, John brought How to learn Morse code albums to school. The third week of school, not only had John FOUND the computer center, but he had two 18 high stacks of computer card decks on his desk. Each program had a green job card on top, was properly labeled in concise printed lettering, and was rubber-banded neatly. Maybe 25 programs altogether between the two stacks. This particular fall afternoon, another member of our floor, Andy, who made John Belushi look suave and sophisticated by comparison, walks into Jack and John's room. Hi Jack! he says, big grin on his face. He doesn't just saunter, he walks in with a purpose. Straight over to John's desk (John wasn't there, by the way). Takes all of his decks and spreads them out on the desk. Takes the rubber bands off each deck. Takes the green job cards off each deck. Shuffles all of the cards together for a minute or two. Divides them up again, into about 25 piles. Puts a green job card on top of each one. Neatly rubber-bands each pile. Restacks the decks into two, 18 stacks on the desk. Turns to leave. Bye Jack! Still grinning. And leaves. Jack buries his head in his hands. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] GoDaddy really sucks... at least one time, on one side, in Scotland
Chet, Chet, Chet. Let's not let a single instance of a bad customer experience color an entire company. It would be impossible for any company to bat 100% Except Quantas, who has never lost an airplane, but one would think they're due, huh. I've been using GoDaddy for years, for upwards of 50 domains created and registered with them as well as with other companies, in various capacities, and I've ALWAYS had excellent experiences with them. I've NEVER had an unsatisfactory experience. I'm really pleased with their services, with the ability I have to manage and control my domains, and do pretty much anything I want with them. Contrast that with NS or Register.com or a half dozen others who are clearly out to shaft you... I'm curious why you feel the need to transfer the domain elsewhere? You can lock it down for 10 years for about $50 (wait for one of their specials). Yeah, maybe somewhere else you can get the same thing for... $40, but at what cost? Like I said, the services they provide for your $8.95 are pretty amazing. And every time I've called (admittedly, maybe only 4 or 5 times), I've always talked to someone with a drawl who was at worst two time zones away from me. I suppose it IS possible that they've got an Indian or two in their call centers, just as they very likely have a couple of Orientals, a Yankee, a redneck, and, gasp, maybe even a Republican. Maybe even a FEMALE Republican. Seriously, why do you need to move the domain? What terrible things are happening right now that are preventing you from just accepting the status quo? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] internet explorer
Al wrote: I think I have spotted a nice bug in IE Singular? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Beware - Virus that attacks DBF's
Ed Leafe wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 3:07 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: Effectively there is nothing that you could do in VFP apart from maybe keeping the file open to deter exclusive access. Well that's certainly another reason to avoid DBF files! lol! Well, if you follow that logic, you should be avoiding Windows in general! And kissing girls, too. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Bloggers consider forming labor union
Chet Gardiner wrote: A union with any real power is impossible in the U.S. of freakin' A Is that why guys with a 4th grade education and biceps bigger than my chest make $250,000 a year driving a crane at the LA docks? Or WI teachers have a better health plan than the US Congress, yet still get bitch and moan about how poor they are? /snicker/ WAY OT. I'm outa here! Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Nothing is Trivial!
mrgmhale wrote: My favorite line with such matters is, The 6 most dangerous words in the technical world are, All you have to do is.! And, I have also come back with the, Well, if it is that easy I guess my job is done here. Give me a call if you run into any need for my help. Followed closely by How hard could that be? (Usually spoken by a developer... Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Nothing is Trivial!
Lou Syracuse wrote: I like that response, have to print up some cards and try it sometime. :) I'll never forget the time way back when Win98 was about to be released, the goalie on my hockey team cornered me and said: I have a computer with Windows 95, and sometimes it stops working. Do you know what the problem might be My grandmother-in-law did that once, too. But she didn't even know what kind of computer; I suspect she was on a dumb terminal. I've explained to folks that computers have a trade publication called ComputerWorld that is a newspaper format. It's about 200 pages thick, comes out once a week. Covers all of computer-dom. Then I tell them that the only part of the pub that I understand is covered in the lower left corner on page 121. The rest is Greek to me. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Up to their old tricks
Many years ago (hint, the year didn't have a '2' in it), one of the management team for VFP asked a bunch of us 'gurus' for suggestions for the next version of VFP. I suggested that better error messages would make our lives as developers easier. Instead of file not found, something like file filename not found. You know, simple things like that. The speaker laughed at me, in front of 75 or so other people. Not a oh boy, you got us there! kind of laugh, but a you are one stupid motherfocker ridiculing type of laugh. (And that day was the start of my disenchantment with MSFT.) It's now 2007 and MSFT spent over ONE MILLION DOLLARS (in Dr. Evil's heinous laugh) developing the successor to WinXP, Vista. And one of their big wins was this brand new file system, no, wait, they couldn't actually get that to work. One of their big wins was, oh, forget it, that one isn't done either. One of their big wins is a new Windows Defender that detects suspicious programs and does all sorts of other security-type tasks to enhance Your User Experience. So this guy logs in as ADMINISTRATOR, and Vista tells him that it's blocking certain startup programs. Click here to find out more. So he clicks here (took three tries to determine WHERE to click), and there is NOTHING on the screen that indicates which of startup programs are being blocked. Oh, did I mention that he's ADMINISTRATOR of the box? Evidently MSFT still doesn't give a shit. The full story and a hilarious video here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=692tag=nl.e539 Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
Man-wai Chang wrote: My W2K thinkpad died last night. The drive had been making clicking noises on and off for a couple of days, and last night the drive had finally decided to call it quits. Get a new harddisk and it could still work. I did say that just a couple of paragraphs later... (I might dig around and try to replace the drive, but not today.) And that's not going to solve the immediate problem of connections, will it? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
Ted Roche wrote: On 7/27/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Stop using Windows. You're no good at it. C'mon, Ted: Don't mince words! g (I think the first three words could be a credo for the rest of us, too.) Yeah, I didn't mean to pick on Whil in particular. He was just today's Well, _I_ certainly didn't take offense, although Ted and I have a long history about Windows admin. /snicker/ victim. I recall helping out a similarly frustrated Chet at the Geeks and Gurus booth in Milwaukee when he couldn't get networking to work on his machines. It's hard. And there aren't a lot of network geeks amongst us. Although it shouldn't be. I know a lot more about Linux admin that Windows admin, even though I've been using Windows for about 4x as long. Windows is just too obscure, and they keep changing things. Linux mount points haven't changed in 15 years, while the change from Win95 networking to NT4 networking to W2K server (Active Dir) to MSFT's approach to networking is to keep sysadmins fully employed and busy 24/7 going to new classes. Sort of like their approach to appdev. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Harvey wrote: It might be hammer time! More likely Miller Time (except Whil likes real beer, right?) I live in Milwaukee. Beer is beer. Donuts, now, that's a different matter. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
Ted Roche wrote: On 7/27/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestions? 1. Stop using Windows. You're no good at it. rof'l Sure, blame the USER. 2. Accelerate your plan to get all of your software off these machines. I was going to try to get it all done Friday, but I had to go in for an MRI, and so migrating the rest of the box will probably take a couple more days. Right after I redo the hw.com website, you know. Four apps and a service still go move. 3. Try to connect using the Linux side and smbclient to confirm that the XP machine isn't banned by Mac address or something strange. There's a white paper on the hw.com site for this, I think. Let's skip this one for the time being. I'm trying to stay away from samba.. The XP box can _see_ the ancyent old server and its shares, it's just not allowed to access them. 4. Check to see if you've enabled Simple Sharing in your network configuration. IIRC, it's somewhere in the options or properties settings in the file explorer. Like most M$ names, Simple Sharing is not what it claims to be: it's not simple, and it's not about sharing, it's about not be able to share. Turn it off if enabled. Done. Rebooted. Explorer shows nothing under the Microsoft Networks now (used to show both NT4 servers.) But read on 5. You don't explicitly mention it, but I presume you can log into the PDC and get shares from there. Do you have your XP workstation configured to log in by itself (to the local workstation) or have you set it up to join the domain and log in to using the domain credentials? That may be preventing you from attaching to the standalone antique. Well, sorta. I can access shares on the PDC, although I'm still logging into the XP box as a local user. I tried connecting the XP box to the PDC domain, and got the same kind of currently mapped... stuff. (Several messages, not important right now.) OK, after waiting a minute or two, both servers show up under the Microsoft Network node in My Network Places. And now I can right click on one of the here-to-fore 'no access' shares, and connect and map a drive. Musta been that Simple Sharing thing. Now I really DO need to accelerate the move off these old boxes. But what am I going to do with a couple of 36 GB PII servers from 1998? Don't think they quite have the horsepower for a 2 TB Myth TV setup. :) Mucho gracias Time to go out and destroy my Achilles a little more, so that when I see the surgeon, he'll have LOTS to do. Want to make sure I'm getting money's worth when he cuts them open. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
John Harvey wrote: It might be hammer time! There are already dents in the case from 2001 Remember the spate of viruses that MSFT said were OUR fault? Klez. Code Red. A whole bunch of others I rebuilt both boxes twice that fall. Lotsa billable hours down the toilet. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Yeah, I didn't mean to pick on Whil in particular. He was just today's victim. As I said in another thread: I am a complete idiot in hardware matters. I know enough to get my own network running, then promptly forget it all. And that's the way it should be. I put it together, write it down, and then move onto important stuff. I don't remember where the shutoff valve for the main water intake to the house is either, but I've got it written down somewhere. Why should I have to mess with it on a regular basis? If there's ever a fire, the kids know to get out of the house first, but if they have time to bring just one thing with, it's Dad's yellow binder labeled Sys Admin in his office. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Lazar in the news with WGA messup
Some of you remember David Lazar. He's quoted in the following article where WGA is requiring you to reactivate Vista (manually, by telephone) simply because you updated an existing driver on your system. http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=271tag=nl.e539 Quality and customer service are our top priorities, and we continue to reduce our response time, and improve as we learn more since the release of Windows Vista. Nice. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP-9 Grid column colors, revisited
Tracy Pearson wrote: You want something like this? This is the ticket. Took me a bit to figure out why my form wasn't working similarly; turns out having the cursor 'testing' available BEFORE the column props are assigned is the reason. Simply creating the cursor in the init() and then refreshing wasn't working. Now for a little, er, uh, refactoring, and I should be in good shape! Thanks! Whil code Local testform testform = CreateObject(colorform) testform.show(1) Define Class colorgrid as Grid columncount = 2 height = 200 left = 24 top = 18 width = 320 column1.dynamicbackcolor = testing.c1 column2.dynamicbackcolor = testing.c2 EndDefine Define Class colorform as Form datasession = 2 Add Object grid1 as colorgrid Procedure load Create Cursor testing (col1 c(15), col2 c(15), c1 i, c2 i) Insert into testing values (red, blue, Rgb(255,0,0), Rgb(0,0,255)) Insert into testing values (blue, red, Rgb(0,0,255), Rgb(255,0,0)) Insert into testing values (green, yellow, Rgb(0,255,0), Rgb(255,255,0)) EndProc EndDefine /code Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: In a message long, long ago (Feb 07), Sytze asked about changing different grid columns as well as rows with DynamicBackColor: I have a grid with an INIT like: thisform.Grid1.SetAll(DynamicBackColor,IIF(calltype=IN, RGB(192,192,192),RGB(255,255,255)), Column) This give me an easy way to differentiate an IN call from an OUT call, on different ROWS. It looks like this prevents me from having a specific COLUMN in a different color from the rest. Is this true ? Sietse Wijnker then responded: The 3rd param in the SetAll method is to specify the class where the property is set. In this case specifying the column-class isn't needed because the DynamicBackColor property only applies to the columns. The SetAll sets all columns DynamicBackColor property to the specified value. If you want a specific column display in another color, you'll have to reset the DynamicBackcolor property or at least alter it. B.T.W. The expression in all the dynamic properties are evaluated in the scope of the grid, not the column, so using 'this.' in the expression refers to the grid! I'm trying to take this one step further. I would like to change the backcolor of any cell in a grid. I've got a cursor supporting the grid, with columns named c1, c2, etc., and an array of colors that map to the cursor, like so: col1 col2 row1 green red row2 red yellow row3 blue yellow and want to use that as the dynamic back color for each cell in the grid. And I'm close, oh so close Option 1: thisform.grid.setall(DynamicBackColor, ; eval(thisform.aCellColor[recn('csrGrid'), ; some expression],) ; ) but no matter how much fidgeting I do, I can't get anything to work for 'some expression' that will return the column number in the same manner as recn() works for the row number. Option 2: I've also tried spinning through each column, setting dynamicbackcolor for just that column, but that has no effect: thisform.grid.column1.dynamicbackcolor ; = thisform.aCellColor[recn('csrGrid'),1] but this puts the same color in every row - so column 1 is green for rows 1-3. Ideas? [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
(The problem: new XP workstation can connect to one of my NT4 servers but not the other.) Things are the way they are because they got that way. This is one of my favorite quotes when explaining to someone else how an environment or an application could end up looking like such garbage. No one wakes up one day and decides, You know, I think I'm going to write the worst piece of crap anyone has ever seen. They do their best, but then things happen. Generally folks try to make the best decision given the constraints and the resources at the time. Such is an apt description of my (fading) Windows network. bg My W2K thinkpad died last night. The drive had been making clicking noises on and off for a couple of days, and last night the drive had finally decided to call it quits. That box and I have been through a lot; bought it just as W2K came out, and it's been my primary VFP development environment ever since. Yes, that's around 9 years. I'd say I got my money's worth out of it. (I might dig around and try to replace the drive, but not today.) So now I'm hooking my backup thinkpad, XP+FC6 dual boot, up to the network, and I'm finding that not quite everything is the same. g I have two NT4 servers; they used to be the backbone here; I'm migrating functions off of them as time permits. They're basically mirrors of each other; if one fails, I can switch over to the other in short order. I should be off of them completely by EOY. (All my Fox development is stored on the Linux file server, for example.) But I still need to connect to the NT4 servers for the odd this and that. One is a PDC, the other is a standalone box. My XP workstation can connect to the PDC, but not the standalone. It can see the shares on the standalone, but when I try to map an XP workstation drive to one of those shares (like I had done with my W2K box), it tells me Access is denied. Specific steps (in explorer): 0. I'm logged into the XP workstation as 'whil', 'secretpw' 1. Drill down into My Network Places: Entire Network -- Microsoft Windows Network hwdomain -- standalonebox share1 on standalonebox share2 on standalonebox 2. Right click on share1 on standalone box 3. Select Map network drive 4. Choose drive Z 5. If I just click Finish, I get a mapping to share1 on drive Z, but when I try to click on drive Z, I get a Z is not accessible, Access is denied. 6. If I Select Connect as a different user and enter credentials on the standalone server ('whil_is_an_admin', 'adminpw'), I get a whole slew of fairly confusing messages (The network folder specified is currently mapped using a different user name and password. To connect using a different user name and pw, first disconnect any existing mappings to this network share.) and the errors cascade from there. I'm not sure what the 'currently mapped using different username...' is - how would I find out? How would I get rid of it? And so on? Suggestions? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP UI with SQL Backend
Grigore Dolghin wrote: You have to own VFP in order to distribute apps (runtimes). And your clients do not. They get your VFP app + runtimes for free. (Much to the chagrin of MSFT.) If you're distributing any other SQL Server version, the customer has to own a licence for it. The customer has to own a license for the server, and then each user needs to purchase Client Access Licenses. Lots of $ MySQL is not free if you're developing closed-source apps. It costs 500 usd/server/year. For resale, that is. Ajoy: You also have to install the ODBC driver on each client box. That's free for the download. Whil - Original Message - From: Ajoy Khaund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 7:08 AM Subject: Re: VFP UI with SQL Backend Which is why I am asking who has to OWN which editions of the software to use it as a backend in a desptop app. Hope you get me. Ajoy Khaund Neamati Road Near Bhogdoi Bridge Jorhat 785 001 Assam, India Tel: 91-376-2351288 Cell: 91-94350-92287 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. - Edward V. Berard, Life-Cycle Approaches - Original Message - From: Eugene Vital [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: Re: VFP UI with SQL Backend SQL Server costs LOTS of $$ (USD) SQLServer Express - http://www.microsoft.com/sql/editions/express/default.mspx create your tables VFP create a DBC add remote view to tables in server easy as PIE I think you'll find that most people on this list won't just give you code VERBATIM (some work is required on your part) however they are very friendly and will help answer any questions you may have. P.S. VFP comes with some VERY GOOD samples but you will have to do the leg work and study them. Ajoy Khaund wrote: Hi All Just want to know a few simple things which is quite difficult to understand from the internet. I want to look in options where I can upgrade a few of my apps with a SQL Server backend. Why SQL server, coz I am using VFP which belongs to the same party and thats yhe first one which comes to my mind and also to the people who use my apps. From a Developer point of view: 1. Do I just buy Sql Server Developer verions and dont need anything else. 2. MySql is also good. Which files do I download to use that. From a Clients point of view: 1. Does he need to have any thing of his own. My apps are destop apps and not web based. Right now all my client need to have is a PC with a Windows OS. For the SQL server part does he require to have something. I want to start off with a Test App which will maybe have one table and one view. If I can get that going I will be able to manage. If any off you have such a app where I can read the code as to how you connect to the server at the start of the app and how to open data with a form it will be very useful for a lot of people. Ed's download section need such a link for newbies. TIA Ajoy Khaund Neamati Road Near Bhogdoi Bridge Jorhat 785 001 Assam, India Tel: 91-376-2351288 Cell: 91-94350-92287 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. - Edward V. Berard, Life-Cycle Approaches --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...
Derek Kalweit wrote: 6. If I Select Connect as a different user and enter credentials on the standalone server ('whil_is_an_admin', 'adminpw'), I get a whole slew of fairly confusing messages (The network folder specified is currently mapped using a different user name and password. To connect using a different user name and pw, first disconnect any existing mappings to this network share.) and the errors cascade from there. I'm not sure what the 'currently mapped using different username...' is - how would I find out? How would I get rid of it? And so on? Suggestions? Go to the command prompt and type: net use You'll see entries. Do a net use \\standalonereallyoldserver\sharename /d for each share on that server to disconnect. \\standalonereadllyoldserver\sharename is already listed as Disconnected Then, go to start-run and type in \\standalonearchaicserver\sharename directly instead of mapping a drive, and enter the credentials when prompted. When I do this, XP snickers at me (honest, I need to turn the volume down), and then I get a message: \\standalonereallyoldserver\sharename is not accessible. You might not have the permissions to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have permissions. So I never even get to enter credentials. Why isn't your second NT4 box a BDC? Or at least on the domain(you said the one is a PDC, indicating you have a domain)? And I thought NT4 was old 5 years ago last time I used it Well, 'things are the way they are because they got that way'. The standalone server was set up first, as a Web server to begin with, and it has worked fine, other than the weekly reboot required, for my purposes. Then I build a second server for a file server (and domain controller) the following year. Two separate boxes, two separate purposes, two separate networks, two separate lines, etc. When I moved the file server stuff off the PDC and onto Linux, now I had a spare NT4 box, so I set it up as a Web server backup, just in case. And it's been sitting there ever since. I've pulled most of the stuff off the standalone box, but I'm not quite done yet. If the W2K box had lasted three more months, I'd have deepsized both NT4 boxes and never had this problem. Oh, for the want of a nail... Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP-9 Grid column colors, revisited
In a message long, long ago (Feb 07), Sytze asked about changing different grid columns as well as rows with DynamicBackColor: I have a grid with an INIT like: thisform.Grid1.SetAll(DynamicBackColor,IIF(calltype=IN, RGB(192,192,192),RGB(255,255,255)), Column) This give me an easy way to differentiate an IN call from an OUT call, on different ROWS. It looks like this prevents me from having a specific COLUMN in a different color from the rest. Is this true ? Sietse Wijnker then responded: The 3rd param in the SetAll method is to specify the class where the property is set. In this case specifying the column-class isn't needed because the DynamicBackColor property only applies to the columns. The SetAll sets all columns DynamicBackColor property to the specified value. If you want a specific column display in another color, you'll have to reset the DynamicBackcolor property or at least alter it. B.T.W. The expression in all the dynamic properties are evaluated in the scope of the grid, not the column, so using 'this.' in the expression refers to the grid! I'm trying to take this one step further. I would like to change the backcolor of any cell in a grid. I've got a cursor supporting the grid, with columns named c1, c2, etc., and an array of colors that map to the cursor, like so: col1 col2 row1 green red row2 red yellow row3 blue yellow and want to use that as the dynamic back color for each cell in the grid. And I'm close, oh so close Option 1: thisform.grid.setall(DynamicBackColor, ; eval(thisform.aCellColor[recn('csrGrid'), ; some expression],) ; ) but no matter how much fidgeting I do, I can't get anything to work for 'some expression' that will return the column number in the same manner as recn() works for the row number. Option 2: I've also tried spinning through each column, setting dynamicbackcolor for just that column, but that has no effect: thisform.grid.column1.dynamicbackcolor ; = thisform.aCellColor[recn('csrGrid'),1] but this puts the same color in every row - so column 1 is green for rows 1-3. Ideas? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] New processors present problems, payoff [almost OT]
Michael Madigan wrote: What's ridiculous is that many of these office buildings don't allow a window to be opened. We had a room of about 150 computers in racks and couldn't open a window in winter. Instead we had to run portable air conditioners to cool the room. So it was 90 inside, 20 outside and we couldn't just open the window to expel the heat. I toured the local University's Beowulf cluster a couple of weeks ago, and the guy in charge had an 'interesting' story about how they discovered that one of the temperature sensors in the room (there are four SUV-sized air conditioners in the room) was bad. A/C broke down on the first day the outside hit 90 and the sensor didn't detect it, so the machines kept running. The room baked within minutes. When they got into the room, they couldn't even touch the handle for the main power feed; it was so hot. All because of a thousand or so blade servers. :) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] [IIS] [He11] Server SYSFU
I am *such* an idiot when it comes to hardware issues -- You say that like it's a bad thing. I got through ten years of writing multi-user apps and never once logged onto a Netware server. I made it multi-user using multiple sessions under Windows, and THEIR admin installed it and handled logins and rights and stuff. Dammit, Jim, I'm a programmer, not a sysadmin! Whil (P.S. I'm barely a programmer, either, but that's a different universe.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Moving files off a laptop for an ex-employee
MB Software Solutions wrote: I'm laying off a person and would like to take their stuff off of the company laptop and put it on a CD for them, including their bookmarks. I looked in the directory tree under Program Files\Mozilla Firefox but didn't see the obvious file for their bookmarks. Can someone tell me where to find it? (Other stuff is easily moved via the Send To option, of course. I just need to locate the bookmarks file.) Bookmarks | Manage Bookmarks | File | Export will create a file of bookmarks. There's also a folder named something like 3fjw398sdhf.default (the location is found in .mozilla\firefox\profiles.ini) that contains their entire Firefox data structure. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] -- Tale of an IT Hero
Michael Madigan wrote: I don't. You don't know what you're doing, or you don't know what he's doing? --- Chet Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead, AWC’s new strategic enterprise technology plan is the direct result of proof-of-concept testing that indicates that the company can cut costs, increase system reliability and security, and provide expanded IT support services by porting a major portion of its IT infrastructure to Apple. Extricating itself from its exclusive dependence on Microsoft is simply the cherry on top. I suspect this guy knows what he's doing... Michael Madigan wrote: This looks to me like a guy cutting off his nose to spite his face. I can't possibly see how all these conversion costs can be recouped in a reasonable amount of time. --- MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Anderson wrote: When Dale Frantz says that his massive migration from Microsoft Windows to the Apple platform isn't a vengeance case, believe him. Over the past few years, I've worked with Frantz closely enough to know not only that the CIO of Auto Warehousing Co. doesn't have a vengeful bone in his body, but also that he means what he says. As Julia King reports in this week's cover story, the migration is being made because Frantz determined that by doing so, he can cut costs, improve system reliability and security, and provide expanded IT support services to his users. The decision to extricate himself from his total dependence on Microsoft was based on sound business and technology principles, not some mindless lust for retaliation. On the other hand, don't believe for a nanosecond Microsoft's extremely poor judgment in selecting AWC as a target in a software-licensing intimidation campaign, and Frantz's earnestness to demonstrate that Apple is a viable alternative to Microsoft in large companies, are unrelated. They are, in fact, inextricably linked. The thing that is really sad about this whole affair is that Auto Warehousing Company is virtually a dedicated Microsoft shop, due to my (prior) professional respect for your company. As I have spoken at global conferences and been quoted many times in the IT trade press, I have reinforced that AWC is a Microsoft shop and that we are proud of that fact. It is extremely unfortunate that it is now clear that your many detractors are actually the ones that are correct. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=298572source=rss_topic14 http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=298043 ___ And how does Microsoft feel I wonder about this? Do they even care? For every customer they lose, are they gaining 1-2+ more somewhere else? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Two kinds of people (this is sort of technical)
John Harvey wrote: I tried that. My kids always said dad, who cares! And the correct answer is, You better, or else you'll end up homeless or in jail or dead! Nothing good ever came of a kid who didn't know how their metric system! The world is full of them, and look at them: David Cassidy, Kenneth Lay, John Stockton, Jerry Falwell, Adolph Hitler, Denny McClain, Bill Clinton, Lisa Weidenbach You don't want to be like any of them, do you? OK, veering back to NF but not OT, having spun through 8 years of math in high school, it pains me to see my kids struggle with regular math, and, worse, not being all that interested in it. I do all sorts of things to attempt to pique their interest For example, we have a chart on our frig: 1 1 1 2 4 4 3 9 8 416 16 525 32 636 64 ... 20 400 1,048,576 You wouldn't believe the number of visitors we have who stare at this, trying to puzzle it out. More than once, someone has looked at this, and given up, saying, I know there's a pattern here, but I'm just not getting it. What's worse is when one of the little kids (Samantha, 7, or Griffin, 5), then sighs, and answers, as if explaining a 'knock-knock' joke, Squares. Powers of two. in a dejected monotone. So far, I'm 1 for 4. (A four page exposition on the difference between integral and differential calc by John Allen Paulos has caused number 2 daughter to decide to double up on math sophomore year so she can take calc as a senior.) Other than Paulos, then, what are some ways to interest kids in the technical side of things? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Two kinds of people (this is sort of technical)
So my wife is talking to a customer of hers at work this week. He's an engineer, and she says, Oh, so is my husband! They start to talk, and she tells him about the xkcd comics I've got on the frig and that I watched Revolution OS with the kids and whatnot. He nods, and says Make sure he tells them that there are two types of people in the world, those who understand Metric, and those who don't. She responds, Oh, yeah, he's always making them answer questions at dinner, like 'How many feet are in a mile?' I swear I am not making this up. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] For those who hate the iPhone
Mike Wohlrab wrote: Kevin, EVERYONE is proprietary. It is our nature to make things proprietary so that we can control the use of something, thus maximizing profits. EVERYONE? You've interviewed all 7 billion people on the planet? I don't recall filling out that survey. :) Whil (Who remembers a discussion about four mathematicians discussing the color of sheep during a train ride.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] For those who hate the iPhone
Mike Wohlrab wrote: Well with Linux, you have to use their file format. Yup, that darn pesky ASCII text file format for configuration files, mailboxes, XML files Any day now, we're probably gonna have to start paying royalties to THEM. Whil (Who is 'them', again? I forget.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] anyone using Facebook as the new social / work network?
Stephen Russell wrote: Has anyone gotten caught up in the hype for facebook and all of it's development tools / apps that you can use? Nope. I'm over 21, you see. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Vista SP1 beta pencilled in for July
Alan Bourke wrote: Bit quick, eh? It's much needed. I got bitten by the notorious file copy performance problem. Google 'vista slow file copy'. When I was on my 100Mb LAN I was getting 9b per second copying files to a W2K3 server. That's 9 *bytes* a second. I nabbed an MS hotfix off some nefarious website, and did a couple of other things that were suggested and it's back to maybe 60% of what it would be in XP doing the same thing. it's the new IPV6 network stack. Grr. Absolutely ridiculous that something as fundamental as that wasn't spotted and killed in real-world testing. Maybe it's 'by design'. File copying? Sounds illegal to us! Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Developers Increasingly Targeting non-Windows Platforms
Derek Kalweit wrote: Windows dominance on the client is cracking, according to the latest release of Evans Data Corp's North American Development Survey. Targeting of the Windows OS has declined by 12% from a year ago, continuing a two-year gradual decline. Currently 64.8% of North American developers are targeting some version of Windows, as opposed to 74% last year and this is expected to drop another 2% in the coming year. Although Windows remains the largest market segment, Linux targeting has increased by 34% from 8.8% a year ago to 11.8% today. If Windows went down 74% to 64.8% and Linux went up 8.8% to 11.8%, set anal-retentive on down FROM 74 to 64 that means Linux only got 3% of the 9.2% drop in the windows market-- only got a third of the 9.2% drop where did the rest go? Based on the article, they elude that it's moving from Windows desktops to non traditional client devices... Does that mean web terminals? pocket PCs? palm pilots? custom hardware? Pen and paper? Mac? I know, everyone's writing iPod and iPhone stuff! :) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP9 not quitting
Allen Pollard wrote: Hi foxgang Has anyone has VFP9 refusing to close ? Nothing running, clear all and release all plus quit, exit and close box and it wont go away. No errors nothing. This is FoxPro. It NEVER quits. insert Energizer Bunny reference here Whil NEVER Give Up! NEVER Surrender! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved
Peter Cushing wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Developing a price for a custom, one-off app is different, and that's what I thought the original question was. Aina? Aina? Je ne comprends pas. It's technical. bg Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] New switch
No, I don't need one. I just got one. Woke up this morning and got ready to go for my morning ride. Been doing an hour up north into the 'country' (iow, no stoplights) before the rest of the family wakes up; it's truly glorious. And as I'm tying my shoes, I click the little button on my main workstation, and find I don't have a network connection. Aw crap. So I look over to the spare workstation. No network connection there, either. H, not good. I'm fearing a server failure. Check on the test machine behind me Something bad happened. Down to the server room in my bike shorts, find the server working fine. A few minutes of fiddling, and it looks like the hub is the culprit. This is one of those If I screw around with it just a few more minutes, I'll end up spending two hours on it and miss my ride. So I just blow it off and leave. After my ride, I plug in an old hub and the machines are back on line. OK, so that proves the point of failure. But the old hub is a 0.001/0.010 8 port, so I head out to the store... pick up a 24 port gigabit switch. Plug it in and it is NIFTY. Little blinking lights even indicate how fast each connection is; green for 1000, yellow for 100, and a little smiley sticking its tongue out for 10. Mebbe I have to pull new cable for some of the machines around here. :) Things don't always work out that well that quickly, ya know Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] iPhone So Good!
Ted Roche wrote: On 6/28/07, Andy Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it usually happens some time around your 50th birthday, at the same time as you suddenly get an irrational attraction to carpet slippers and cardigans with pockets vbg Exactly right. I still have my LG phone from 2001. Yes, as in Open the pod bay doors, HAL... The other guys at the local LUG make fun of my IBM 3270-style phone, as it has a black letters with a green background. I threaten to upgrade to a DEC VT-100 style phone one of these days. 50th bday, huh? I thought the irrational attraction was to two seat convertible sports cars and shapely women who were struggling with 9th grade algebra during 9/11. Whil (Who only knows one way to turn the damn VCR or DVD player off - to yank the bleedin' plug out of the wall.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved
MB Software Solutions wrote: Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: Did any of you ever come up with a bid where the number tables in the database helped you form the idea of how many screens it'd take to support such a database? I've scoped out the database entities and their attributes for a job MBSS is bidding on and am now working to derive a price. Have you ever built a custom application before? It doesn't sound like it. And all these years I thought I knew what I was doing. Thanks for clearing that up for me, dude. There's a big difference between building a vertical market app (which is what FabMate is, right?) and doing one-off custom apps. Developing a price for a custom, one-off app is different, and that's what I thought the original question was. Aina? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved
sleeves due to you being longer in the tooth than I am g) is that you attract the good client's who'll pay your $xxx/hr rates.in my depressed economical areas, there's no way there's 3 digits after that dollar sign. You're not the only one. I live in Milwaukee. Folks around here (they call themselves good ol' German frugal, others call them 'cheap') have the same problem. Particularly with some guy who works out of his house (that's French for no overhead, so your rates should be lower, right?) I haven't sent an invoice to a local firm in five years, cuz local firms don't want to pay the going rate, regardless of my guru-ness (that's legacy-guru-ness, by the way.) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved
MB Software Solutions wrote: Did any of you ever come up with a bid where the number tables in the database helped you form the idea of how many screens it'd take to support such a database? I've scoped out the database entities and their attributes for a job MBSS is bidding on and am now working to derive a price. Have you ever built a custom application before? It doesn't sound like it. The number of tables in a system has _nothing_ to do with the number of screens in the system. _nothing_ Sure wish I was an expert at FPA (Function Point Analysis)!! Then there'd at least be a (somewhat) consistent formula! g FPA has _nothing_ to do with the data model. _nothing_ I hope this was of some help. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved
Ted Roche wrote: On 6/25/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _nothing_ I hope this was of some help. Well- I thought your answer was kind of ambiguous... I wasn't trying to help _YOU_. Learned _that_ lesson long ago the hard way many times... Michael, otoh, well, there's some hope for him. Whil P.S. I have discovered a marvelous proof for this (that the # of tables has nothing to do with the number of screens) but, alas, there is not enough room in the margins of this email to write it down. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved
Ted Roche wrote: On 6/25/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't trying to help _YOU_. Learned _that_ lesson long ago the hard way many times... A lesson learned many times. Hmmm. OK, I guess that means it wasn't really learned. No, wait, at 'our' age, one can learn things over and over again. Alzheimer's means you can hide your own Easter eggs. Michael, otoh, well, there's some hope for him. Work smarter not barter! or something like that, right? P.S. I have discovered a marvelous proof for this (that the # of tables has nothing to do with the number of screens) but, alas, there is not enough room in the margins of this email to write it down. Hentzen's Unproven Postulate! There's a PhD thesis in there somewhere... I just want the $500 prize. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Graphic editing/ creation software
I am looking for some guidance as to if anyone knows of some good free graphic editing and creation software. On my website I have some images that link to other pages, but they have become blurred so I need to clean them up and make them look nicer. I also have some images that link to more information about my services, but I need to make some buttons that say More Info instead of Buy Now as well as creating some other images to add to the site as well. My budget is very low, and I can't spend anything for the programs, so they have to be free or ill have to find some other way to get what I need done. The GIMP is where it's at. http://gimp.org/ If you're a PhotoShop diehard, you might also be interested in this: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241 Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF} FoxPro and .NET better than Linux?
Alan Bourke wrote: They definitely dropped the ball badly with the VB community. Yup. Makes me glad to be part of the VFP community that's been so well coddled. Back in high school, our Athletic Director was going to introduce the fall sports teams at a pep rally. He got through the starters on the football team, and then turned to the cross country team. And said, The cross country team will now introduce themselves because he didn't have a clue who any of them were. The football team went 3 and 8 that year. XC was 72-3, with 2 of the three losses being at the state qualifier meet, their worst race of the year. The AD justified his lack of knowledge of the cross country team runners by saying, This was a pep rally for the fall sports teams. 'Running' is not a sport. And FoxPro isn't a. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Jobs jabs Windows
Derek Kalweit wrote: I'm not sure I agree with the Windows marketing plan. I can't believe multiple versions, with all the confusion it creates, is good for the bottom line. Personally, I'm sure that its bad for the consumer. People don't know the difference-- being a computer geek myself, **I** still haven't even looked into the differences between the Vista versions yet... People understand Server and Pro or Workstation or Client or whatever-- that's all you need... Two versions at most. Three. Let's not every forget Vista Barbie Edition. http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2003102400226NWCY Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Jobs jabs Windows
MB Software Solutions wrote: Charlie Coleman wrote: At 08:27 PM 6/12/2007 +0100, Alan Bourke wrote: Hey, at least MS don't charge for service packs like Apple gdr Good Lord. Where have you been? I've been paying for Win services packs for years: Win 98 Win 2000 Win XP (hopefully never Vista) Hey, didn't you say the same thing about XP (Hopefully never XP) ?!?!?!?? gdr But MSFT promised it would be different this time. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is anyone else here getting dumber like me?
Ted Roche wrote: On 6/11/07, Matthew Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm 45 Is this what it's like to get old? I don't remember. Braggart. Whil (who is also heading out for an hour ride. Same route, every day, but with dementia setting in, it's like a brand new ride every day...) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Is anyone else here getting dumber like me?
Matthew Jarvis wrote: I don't know - maybe it's the crazy nature of my work, or maybe just this environment, or whatever I'm just feeling like I'm getting dumber all the time... in addition to that my stamina for sitting here working with computers for more than 9 hours is gone (that might actually be a good thing)... OK, back from my ride the house is full of whiny nieces and nephews (I'm bored) but I'm still full of endropneumenomorphinites... I found about 7 or 8 years ago that I didn't feel as mentally acute. Hanging around with a group of 20 year olds at the time just intensified those feelings. I just wasn't as quick about 'getting it' when faced with a new algorithm or something that was going to take some serious high IQ noodling. Ask me now if the +1 goes at the beginning or the end of the do while loop and I'll spend an hour trying to analyze it. And then I'll just put it one place, and the other, and determine the answer empirically. :) I eat reasonably well, exercise vigrously for usually an hour or more 5-6 days a week (cycling)... Cut back on the beer sleep is sometimes an issue a couple times a week but I'm normally getting 7 or more hours... I find that I can't pull the extremes any more. I used to able to stay up till 3 or 4 and then recover a few days later by sleeping 10 or 12 hours. Not any more. And physical recovery is awful. Achilles overuse last year has had me off the roads for six months now, with no end (i.e. recovery) in sight. I may be off for another six months, or this may be the last injury for me I'm 45 Is this what it's like to get old? 45? Wow. I woulda guessed 55, or higher! You look mah-ve-lous! OK, seriously, again. like that other old fart said, 'yes, older'. The big problem is that our memories don't age like the rest of us. I still remember being able to run with the big dogs. Now I can't even spell 'big dogs'. But I still see guys running and think, Faster than him... and then, Used to be faster than him. So my personal strategy is multi-fold. First, realize that one advantage is that you 'know how to do things'. When the ticket agent on the phone tries to blow you off, you know how to deal with the schmuck, instead of getting all flustered like you did when you were 27. That's wisdom (iow, experience) Second, wisdom helps you figure out how to 'pick your battles'. That's French for knowing when to fold 'em. But also knowing how to set your expectations. Doug Hennig relayed a great story a few years ago. (Actually, nearly ten years ago.) His nephew was back from college, and was setting up a four on four 'touch' football game, and called him up to fill out one team. Doug, at 40, agreed in a flash, and spent the afternoon playing his heart out with 7 other guys half his age, and he more than held his own, scoring, passing, knocking the pants off the other guy if he wasn't paying attention the guys were all pretty impressed that this old guy was able to keep up with them. The next day, just after lunch, the nephew calls Doug again. Hey, we're going to play full court four on four hoops for a couple of hours. Want to come? Doug is lying on the couch, legs, arms and back covered in ice, moaning, I can't feel any part of my body below my neck. OK, maybe that doesn't have much to do with setting expectations, but it's a fun story that we can all relate to. Third, knowing that you're just not as sharp and quick as you used to be, you don't have to accept it. Fight it. I find trying to learn new stuff to be good practice, seems to retard the spoiling of the grey matter. Right now I'm trying to learn Mandarin. And while I still read plenty of trashy spy novels, I also try to pick up a non-fiction book every couple of months... There are some wonderful technically-oriented books out there. Most anything by John Allen Paulos or Simon Singh, for example. And even some fiction, like Stephenson and Gibson and Sterling. Fun to read, but you have to pay attention, and the more you pay attention, the more you catch just how clever they are. Fourth, I find myself resorting to mnemonics more and more so I don't forget things. I've always been anal about commenting my code; I've gotten better at doing a specific job about it, so I can remember what the hell I was thinking when I wrote that crap three months (days?) ago. But other things, too, like I'm making lunches for the kids. I run out of bread and will have to go get more from the freezer in the basement. But I don't want to go down right now cuz I've got a sandwich half made. But if I throw the wrapper away right now, sure as shootin' I'll forget. So I leave the empty bread wrapper tied around the faucet, and when I go to use the sink in twenty minutes, I'll remember that I need to get the bread. Fifth, I've come to depend on the 'aha' moment, and it's really quite nice, because I don't freak
Re: [NF] Surface Computing has arrived
Derek Kalweit wrote: I don't get that same feeling. I see this as a kewl thing but not practical for regular mass usage. I think it'll find many applications, like in the design and CAD world, but will remain too expensive for say mass deployment in offices for a long time. I fail to see how it'd be very useful for general office work-- Email, word processing, etc. Sure, it's cool for many consumer apps that are If you worked in the office where Tom Cruise (Minority Report) worked, it'd be useful. But I can't seem to find the HR department there. They keep telling me they already knew I was coming and that all of the positions are filled. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Install Windows Vista in 2 minutes!
No more of these three and four hour installs that may or may not work, depending on the hardware. This is guaranteed, or your money back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbf9tOGwno Whil (Just kidding about the money back part, but other than that, it's guaranteed.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros
One big benefit would be the hurry up and start coding mentality that is so common today. Another would be a bit more education for the PHBs, so that they eventually slow down on the ridiculous demands and requirements. You still have folks wanting a 40 story skyscraper in 3 months, but those folks are rarer now than when there were no building codes, so to speak. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros
There's no analogous proof in software; no metric that says, for example, that under 100,000 tpm a method will work, but fail under higher loads. So a screening process, like we have for engineered designs, is probably not possible. But perhaps a process akin to the Better Business Bureau, where complaints about shoddy workmanship/ practices are reviewed and made public, might be a good first step. But who is going to complain? Customers who wanted a brand new inventory system custom designed for their shop. Without specs. In three months. To run on 386s running Windows ME. For $22,000. (That includes documentation, help files, and a week of training.) Oh, by the way, we're under some serious competition from China. You're going to have finish this up in 2 months, and we've only got $17,000 to pay you. You can't do it? Well, I'm going to call the BBB and tell them you're incompetent and a crook besides! Well, you did say that complaints are reviewed and made public. Who would do that? Folks who have retired from the US Patent Office? g Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: list OK?
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Its sure been quiet Well, now that Weller's gone for the summer, I don't feel much like working either... Whil Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:03 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: list OK? are there problems? I have posted a couple of items today, but no trace. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD8-)# ** Manchester City Council supports Smokefree England - 1 July 2007 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UMPC future prediction....what do you think?
Ted Roche wrote: On 5/21/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems a damn freakin' shame to waste a cookie. There are lots of computer programmers in India? China? Bulgaria? who would just LOVE to have _part_ of a cookie, you know. Texas. Chicago. Cupertino. Vermont. Vermont? Wassamatta, getting hungry up there? Teddy wanna cookie? rof'l Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UMPC future prediction....what do you think?
If you were given an alpha-emitting cookie, a beta-emitting cookie and a gamma-emitting cookie and told you had to eat one, put one in your pocket, and throw one away, would you know the right answer? (Without googling?) I was _required_ to throw one away. I couldn't surreptitiously keep it and munch on it late at night when everyone else was asleep? Seems a damn freakin' shame to waste a cookie. There are lots of computer programmers in India? China? Bulgaria? who would just LOVE to have _part_ of a cookie, you know. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] UMPC future prediction....what do you think?
MB Software Solutions wrote: (Should be NF...sorry!) Interesting article: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9019900 OK, I finally had to read this. In 1984 (yes, honestly), I wrote an editorial for our local PC user group (this was hot on the heels of that new-fangled PC-AT that we all hacked by putting 14 or 16 MHz crystals in). Three issues for mobile computing: #1 Input: How do you get data into it. Right now, that means a QWERTY keyboard. I posited that eventually you'll be able to speak into it, doing away with the manual input. We're still a ways-away, but this is closer than #2 #2 Output: This is what the article talked about - screen size. What if you weren't limited to a physical screen? What if you had actual holograms that you could see, but could also keep private (but also make public if you wanted)? Or maybe what if you had a gadget that you wore like a pair of eyeglasses, sort of like the heads-up displays that pilots (and some cars) now sport? Suddenly the form factor becomes irrelevant. #3 Bandwidth/storage: If you're instantly connected to the world, you don't have to carry your hard disk along with you. And you probably wouldn't want to carry the Entire Internet around with you. Watching a friend of mine zoom in on the roof of his house via googlemaps on his blackberry a week ago, well, this one is pretty much taken care of. Someone is going to make a breakthrough in the screen size and suddenly the size of the device you're carrying around will be constrained simply by how you're going to type into it. And you never know when that breakthrough will happen. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Creating a VFP Cursor with the same structure as an SQL Server table.
Ted Roche wrote: On 5/18/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The core problem is that I'm using SQLXML to return data, then XMLTOCURSOR in VFP to create a cursor from the data. Which is all fine, except if the SQL table has no rows, in which case you get no XML back, and consequently you don't get a cursor. So what I want to do is pre-create an empty cursor with the right structure so that I'll just have an empty cursor if no rows come back. Well, for a different question, you might get a different answer. But it might not be as filthy. And goodness knows, filth is the only reason _I_ hang out here Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Lightweight Task Manager
Matthew Jarvis wrote: Can someone recommend a nicely featured yet lightweight task manager i.e. reminder program? I've got my sales manager harping on me to install Outlook just so he can use the calendar thingy - and that ain't gonna happen... I use Outlook at home and like this calendar feature quite a bit but I don't allow Outlook at our company. Ah, do what I say, not what I do bg Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it
It's kind of funny how this fellow seems to think that all of these scenarios have just begun since people started wanting Web sites done for them. http://www.mbwebdesign.co.uk/blog/nightmare-web-design-clients/ Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it
Michael Madigan wrote: I love the customers who want something for nothing. You can put a link to your site on it. Wow at $0.10 a click, It might pay for itself in 30 years. Or those who want you to develop a vertical market application for them, for free. And then I'll market it, and give you a share of the profits. If I had a nickel every time some schmuck offered me that 'deal', well I'd have a lot of nickels. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: get me off your xxxxxx bullshit
Bill Arnold wrote: My guess is he has a virus on his computer that is sending these emails... When you look at his website he's a devout VFP programmer... I tend to agree, at least to give the benefit of the doubt to this possibility. A Tourette's virus.. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Programmers and OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)
Alan Bourke wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:57:23 -0700 (PDT), Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: He also collected professional wrestling action figures. That should have set alarm bells ringing on its own. As well as the adjectives all just being plain redundant. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Computer, schomputer
Ted Roche wrote: None of these girly-man notebooklaptopportable dainty things, but a real computer, a manly one, one that sits on your desk and takes up all sorts of room. So, you want a bigger, noisier one with room for more dust bunnies inside? In her office, yes. I don't dare go in there The only real question is... AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHz) 65W or Intel(r) Core 2 Duo E4300 Processor. The difference is $150 ($600 vs $750). Unless Linda decides to get into video editing or some other processor-intensive activity, I think this is one of the least crucial parts of the machine. More RAM, more disk and especially a nice, large, clear, high-quality display is important. Which brand name is on the CPU is pretty uninteresting. That's what I was thinking. I figure having a dual proc in the box is a good idea, just in case, but the difference between a 1.8 and a 2.2, and MD vs Intel is irrelevant. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. She's already got a 22 LCD that I paid $2K for in 1996. It still works like a charm, so that'll stay on her desk for a while. Just cuts down on the available space she's got to put other junk. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Programmers and OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)
Michael Cummings wrote: The best movie for ocd is As good as it gets with jack N. Monk. Gotta love the guy. I'll be walking down the street with one of my kids and start touching parking meters. They'll burst out laughing. Whil Aren't all programmers (or at least the one's who care...haha) likely to be labeled with OCD? g Funny, but I worked with an OCD and we are all lucky. White spaces or Tabs? For us it's something we can laugh at in the end. For them they will validate each line, over and over. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 A good way to judge people is by observing how they treat those who can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/792 - Release Date: 5/6/2007 9:01 PM [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Bill Gates quotes
* There never was a chip, it is said, that Bill Gates couldn't slow down with a new batch of features. o James Coates, The Chicago Tribune * Bill Gates is a monocle and a Persian cat away from being the villain in a James Bond movie. o Dennis Miller Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Computer, schomputer
I'm gonna buy me a real-life computer this week. None of these girly-man notebooklaptopportable dainty things, but a real computer, a manly one, one that sits on your desk and takes up all sorts of room. I haven't bought a desktop machine in... 9 years. Gosh, the landscape has changed. Well, actually, it's for my wife. The box she's using is a PII, 256 MB RAM, 8 MB hard disk, yes, it was state of the art back in 1996 she's suffered enough, it's time to get her something a bit more modern. In pink. HP has a couple of small bid-ness boxes that look like they'll make her heart glad. 80 GB hard drive, 1 GB RAM, DVD writeable, gigabit Ethernet. The only real question is... AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHz) 65W or Intel® Core 2 Duo E4300 Processor. The difference is $150 ($600 vs $750). (Ed. note: HP now offers boxes with 'FreeDOS', which means, well, you know. Finally!) I'll throw FC6 or ubu (ha!) on it. Given that her current machine is nearly adequate (Web, email, word processing, spreadsheets), I'm not sure that she'd notice the difference between one or the other. Kinda like going from a Schwinn to a Corvette or a Ferrari. Yeah, there's a difference between the two cars, but if you're used to a bicycle, are you really going to care? Any comments from the peanut gallery? Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Computer, schomputer
By the way the dell was about 850 and well worth it because I'm probably going to buy a second one soon. I do think I should have got a bigger hard drive with it though as I went with the 60 gb and its already half full Yeah, I thought about that for a bit, but she runs off the server, so she doesn't need any local disk space except for the OS. Vista plus an app or two takes up 30 GB without blinking, but Linux won't. This is just a housewife machine, not a developer's box that needs a lot of capabilities and oompf. (Am I sexist pig or what?) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Computer, schomputer
john harvey wrote: I had trouble using AMD chips on NT Servers years ago, but they work fine today. I usually go for the cheaper offering, because their performance is about the same. This strategerie allows me to continue to fund my wife and kids excellent adventures, and after all, that is what it's all about, ain't it! There you go! Once she has a new box, then the kids will get another box that will be more video and media-ready. There just wasn't any way to get the kids the machine they NEED without getting her the one she WANTS (but doesn't need /smirk/). Of course, I might get 'something' out of the deal, too, as it's going to be a surprise... one day she'll boot up her machine and, well, gosh, this sure seems faster than it was yesterday! Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Fox wallpaper
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: On May 4, 2007, at 10:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was actually looking for FoxPro-themed Windows wallpaper, I think Whil has some fox graphics on his web site (hentzenwerke.com). I took a quick look, but couldn't find it. I've got icons for Fox 2.x through 10.0, er, 9.0. s They're under Downloads | Free Downloads. No wallpaper, though. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Octal to Ascii conversion?
Vince Teachout wrote: Tracy Pearson wrote: Have a look here: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~BaseX Too Late! Ha! Bet I coulda done it in 2 lines of code in .NET. Plus 117 MB of libraries, of course. Whil ** * Function...: CleanOctal * Author.: Vincent Teachout * Date...: May 03, 2007, 13:15:27 * Notice.: Copyright © 2007, Caracal Software. * ...: All Rights Reserved. * Purpose: Convert octal codes within a given string to ascii code * Code MUST be in format \999. eg. \046 *: Example: ? CleanOctal(Bob \046 Mary) Bob Mary * Parameters.: cString * Returns: New string with octal codes converted to ascii * Compiler...: Visual FoxPro 09.00..3504 for Windows ** FUNCTION CleanOctal LPARAMETERS cString LOCAL nI, nJ, nCount, cSub, cReplace * Work backwards - we'll be modifiying the string on the fly, efectively removing one \ each time nCount = OCCURS(\,cString) FOR nI = nCount TO 1 STEP -1 cSub = SUBSTR(cString, AT(\,cString, nI), 4) Get last (rightmost) occurance and following three chars lIsValid = .T. assume is valid format FOR nJ = 2 TO 4 IF ISDIGIT(SUBSTR(cSub,nJ,1)) = .F. Note: No harm done if we attempt access an out of range substr - ie, 3rd char of a length 2 string lIsValid = .F. EXIT ENDIF ENDFOR IF lIsValid = .T. In correct format for Octal conversion nAscii = 0 nAscii = nAscii + VAL(SUBSTR(cSub,2,1))* 8^2 nAscii = nAscii + VAL(SUBSTR(cSub,3,1))* 8^1 nAscii = nAscii + VAL(SUBSTR(cSub,4,1))* 8^0 IF nAscii 256 cReplace = CHR(nAscii) cString = STRTRAN(cString, cSub, cReplace) ENDIF ENDIF ENDFOR RETURN cString ENDFUNC ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/%(messageid)s ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.