Re: OT: Exclamation marks.
* Steve Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US Secret Service uses a formula devised by a psyciatrist to determine the danger level someone poses by their use of exclamation marks. Specifically, the number of exclamation marks they use to make a point. So, I suggest that this list filter out those messages that have this characteristic for everyone's safety. For better or worse, well-informed sources have also leaked the following: * Isreal's Mossad is scanning for capitalization to assess people's IQ; * Germany's BND is scanning for vowels in order to measure the amount of Aryan content in a mail; * MI5 is looking for ASCII art to eliminate the last surviving Thatcherites. May I therefore suggest the following (it's for your own good, honey, trust me...): g t f ck ng l f y f ck n g d t
Re: Qmail and Syslogd?
grrr either you have an old syslogd man page or you can't rtfm well! e.g if you specify mail.* -/var/adm/maillog you have an unsynced maillog it will work faster but unreliable for sudden power failures! next time please post your questions to the list and not to my personal mailbox, as anyone else might be ever interested and as I'm not your consultant :) Unfortunately it's not like they (djb) says in commercials :) Use the - prefix in syslog.conf on mail logging facility and it won't commit sync() after each line appended. Syslogd is death to a medium- to high-volume qmail server. I've seen the same thing happen. Switch to multilog. And, after reading man syslog.conf and man syslogd, I'm still not clear on where the - goes. Do you have an example of your syslog.conf to show us? -- Stefan Laudat - The only thing I feel when I kill is recoil.
qlogtools compile - error
Hi, while trying to compile Bruce's qlogtools-package on my FreeBSD-Box I get the error-message: gcc -g -o -multitail gcc: No input files specified *** Error code 1 gmake is installed. any hints? /ch
Re: virus scanning
Rainer Link wrote: Dale Herring wrote: Does anyone else use the linavx scanning software from AVP? I did find a Note: AVX is not AVP ! See http://www.avp.ch/E/avpqa.htm for details. AVX is from a company I never heard in the past. was it. Are there any other scanners that will scan mail already on the system for these? Or which one seems to work the best in conjunction with Qmail? You may use AMaViS (www.amavis.org) or qmail-scanner (qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net) with your preferred anti virus scanner. Both do not support linavx currently, but, well, I really can't speak for qmail-scanner :-) best regards, Rainer Link -- Rainer Link | Member of Virus Help Munich (www.vhm.haitec.de) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Member of AMaViS Development Team (amavis.org) rainer.w3.to | OpenAntiVirus Project (www.openantivirus.org) AVX is Anti Virus eXpert comercialized (or made it , I don't know ) by a Romanian software company. They have a Linux version in the download section, but I never try it. Regards, -- Adrian Turcu System Administrator Computers Department Romanian Railway Company Constanta Region E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +40 92 563791 (any time) +40 43 363977 (home)
Re: qlogtools compile - error
Am 20.01.2001 um 12:01:10 schrieb Clemens Hermann: Hi, sorry, I used the wrong make but now it does not work anyway: gmake: *** No rules to make target 'qlogselect', needed by 'all'. Stop. what is wrong? on my Debian it compiles perfect but not under FreeBSD /ch
Re: RAID Qmail.
Steve Fulton wrote: I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Steve. Hi, I wish point you a reference regarding SMTP POP via NFS: - I think NFS is a little slow and it locks the file-system which is not a good idea in case the NFS server will go down for a while. I have RAID 1 between two fail-over qmail servers using NBD (network block device) and a local partition for each one. In case one of my qmail-server is down the other will take care about qmail service without any file-system unlock, just start its NBD service and reconstructing the RAID 1 locally. If you want more details about NBD go to: - http://www.it.uc3m.es/~ptb/nbd/ -- home-page - http://lists.community.tummy.com/mailman/listinfo/enbd -- mail-list I think you can use RAID 5 and NBD too in case you lack in local disk controllers. Regards, -- Adrian Turcu System Administrator Computers Department Romanian Railway Company Constanta Region E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +40 92 563791 (any time) +40 43 363977 (home)
qmail Digest 20 Jan 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1250
qmail Digest 20 Jan 2001 11:00:01 - Issue 1250 Topics (messages 55586 through 55653): Re: mutt configuration 55586 by: Jorge Bras 55588 by: James Raftery Re: tcpserver question (OT) 55587 by: Alex Pennace 55597 by: Paul Jarc 55628 by: Mario Thaten Re: Multiple instances of qmail... 55589 by: James R Grinter 55590 by: Henning Brauer 55598 by: Dave Sill 55601 by: Bill Carlson 55604 by: Paul Jarc 55605 by: Henning Brauer 55606 by: James Stevens 55638 by: Scott Gifford Re: Virtual domains and forwarding. 55591 by: James R Grinter how manipulate header 55592 by: gmo.gmx.de 55603 by: Dave Sill Good MUAs 55593 by: Alex Le Fevre 55594 by: Henning Brauer 55596 by: Paul Jarc 55615 by: Charles Cazabon Re: Svscan 55595 by: Paul Jarc 55617 by: Gavin McCord 55621 by: Henning Brauer 55622 by: tc lewis Header 55599 by: NDSoftware Re: Mailer error 55600 by: Dave Sill Re: why so few qmail-remote processes ... 55602 by: Dave Sill 55611 by: Jacques Frip' WERNERT 55613 by: Paul Jarc tcpserver too slow 55607 by: Isaac Jaramillo 55609 by: Alex Pennace IMAP question 55608 by: Durham David R CNTR AMC CSS/SAS unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error 55610 by: Martin Randall 55612 by: Dave Sill 55614 by: Martin Randall 55624 by: Dave Sill 55632 by: Martin Randall AVP 55616 by: NDSoftware 55618 by: NDSoftware bandwidth monitoring/analysis 55619 by: Barry Smoke 55620 by: NDSoftware LWQ - Which log contains what? 55623 by: Clemens Hermann 55626 by: Paul Jarc 55627 by: Dave Sill QMail Queue 55625 by: NDSoftware 55629 by: Dave Sill Re: Exclamation marks. 55630 by: Steve Fulton 55647 by: Robin S. Socha Re: A firestorm of protest? 55631 by: David L. Nicol RAID Qmail. 55633 by: Steve Fulton 55635 by: Hubbard, David 55639 by: Matthew Patterson 55640 by: David Dyer-Bennet 55641 by: paul.anastrophe.com 55646 by: Greg White 55653 by: Adrian Turcu qmail-mrtg 2.3 : will it work with cyclog ? 55634 by: Olivier M. 55636 by: Sean C Truman 55642 by: Olivier M. 55644 by: Peter Green Re: virus scanning 55637 by: Rainer Link 55651 by: Adrian Turcu Qmail-Scanner 55643 by: NDSoftware qmail-mrtg concurrency 55645 by: Jon Rust Re: Qmail and Syslogd? 55648 by: Stefan Laudat qmail logs - again 55649 by: Clemens Hermann qlogtools compile - error 55650 by: Clemens Hermann 55652 by: Clemens Hermann Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:44AM +0100, Redak, Dorian wrote: Dear All! I'm trying to use mutt as MUA and get an error msg when trying to send mail: Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.) The original sendmail binaries have been replaced by the qmail wrapper. I don't know what that error mean, but i can send you a muttrc example, similiar to the one i use. best regards, ./bras -- Support Engineer kpnQwest Portugal source ~/.mutt/gpg.rc set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases source ~/.mutt/aliases set reverse_alias set reverse_name set folder=~/Maildir set spoolfile=+Mailbox/ set mbox=+Mailbox set copy=yes record=+sent save_name set delete=yes set mail_check=5 set indent_string=" " set check_new set beep_new set fast_reply set allow_8bit set resolve set suspend #set pgp_autosign set pgp_timeout=3600 unset confirmappend unset mark_old unset sig_dashes set editor='vim -c "set tw=72" +2' set edit_hdrs=yes #set edit_hdrs editor="/bin/vi +/^\$" set print=ask-no set print_command="mpage -2Hf -bA4 -Phptec" set hidden_host=yes set sort=threads set sort_alias=alias set sort_aux=date-sent set sort_browser=alpha set pager_format="[%Z] %A-%C/%m %.34f%%[%d.%b %y, %H:%M]" set status_format="%r %v [%?M?%M/?%m] %?n?%n new, ?%?p?%p postponed, ?%?t?%t tagged, ?%?d?%d deleted, ?(%h:%f) %?b?%b more to go.?% %r" hdr_order From: Subject: To: CC: BCC: Date: Organization: X-Mailer: ignore * unignore from: date: subject: to: cc: reply-to: unignore organization: organisation: unignore X-Mailer: unignore X-Junked-Because lists bugtraq mailboxes ! +bugtraq send-hook . "unset pgp_autosign" # template folder #folder-hook default 'set move=yes' #folder-hook default 'set mbox=+default.net/' #folder-hook
Re: some problems with tcpserver
Chris Johnson writes: Try adding -l0 (that's ell zero) to your tcpserver options. That'll keep your server from trying to look up its own name. I agree that DNS reverse lookup for the local host name on startup is not necessary in normal situations. But it may be worth mentioning that qmail-smtpd copies $TCPLOCALHOST into Received fields. If you run qmail-smtpd under tcpserver -l0, you will see ``Received: ... by 0 ...'' in message headers. People may or may not think this is a problem. If you think this is a problem and still want to avoid looking up in DNS, just specify the (real) local host name, not 0, as the -l option's argument. -- Tetsu Ushijima
Re: Mailer error
Boz Crowther writes: what I see is that the mailer doesn't include header information specified on the command line after it gets the go ahead to send DATA, although MAIL FROM and RCPT TO are correctly specified. [...] Is there a fixcrio-like utility out there that will correct this problem? How about ofmipd in the mess822 package? http://cr.yp.to/mess822.html -- Tetsu Ushijima
RE: some problems with tcpserver
Can i force to use mail.ndsoftware.net ? Because i have now ns1.ndsoftware.net ! If yes how ? Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A -Original Message- From: Tetsu Ushijima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: some problems with tcpserver Chris Johnson writes: Try adding -l0 (that's ell zero) to your tcpserver options. That'll keep your server from trying to look up its own name. I agree that DNS reverse lookup for the local host name on startup is not necessary in normal situations. But it may be worth mentioning that qmail-smtpd copies $TCPLOCALHOST into Received fields. If you run qmail-smtpd under tcpserver -l0, you will see ``Received: ... by 0 ...'' in message headers. People may or may not think this is a problem. If you think this is a problem and still want to avoid looking up in DNS, just specify the (real) local host name, not 0, as the -l option's argument. -- Tetsu Ushijima
Installing open-smtp4 on qmail-1.03
Hi, I am trying to install open-smtp4 to enable pop before smtp. Its posing a few problems by not writing the remote ip into the file /etc/smtp.filter.newer. It only writes ":allow,RELAYCLIENT=//" into the file. I have changed tcpmakectl to tcp rules in pop3-record . Can someone give me the exact procedure. I also checked checkpassword.c where the oneliner has been added asking it to execute pop3-record. I have done as follows - Unpack open-smtp4.tar.gzUnpack checkpassword-0.81.tar.gzcd into checkpassword-0.81 Change tcpmakectl to tcprules and chmod for both pop3-record and age-smtp Issue the following command: patch ../open-smtp/checkpassword.patchMake checkpassword as per usual. Restart qmail Raghu
qmHandle vs. qmail-mrtg-queue
Hello, Strange thing: viper:~ # qmail-mrtg-queue 39 2 viper:~ # qmHandle -s Messages in local queue: 0 Messages in remote queue: 4 Well :) And there are some (different) messages in the queue, so I guess that qmail-mrtg-queue is right, and qmHandle wrong. Maybe somebody noticed that too ? Regards, Olivier -- _ Olivier Mueller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGPkeyID: 0E84D2EA - Switzerland qmail projects: http://omail.omnis.ch - http://webmail.omnis.ch PGP signature
Re: Qmail and Syslogd?
On 20 Jan 2001, at 11:24, Stefan Laudat wrote: grrr either you have an old syslogd man page or you can't rtfm well! I have Redhat 6.2 and rtfm for quite a while before I quesioned you.It mentions the - flag for buffered writes, but it doens't give an example of it. I loath experimenting on a production machine. e.g if you specify mail.*-/var/adm/maillog you have an unsynced maillog it will work faster but unreliable for sudden power failures! I'm battery backed up. Hopefully this won't be an issue. next time please post your questions to the list and not to my personal mailbox, as anyone else might be ever interested and as I'm not your consultant :) Damn, I hate lists that don't reply to lists.. ;) Didn't notice. Sorry, I meant it to go to the list. -- Phil Barnett mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW http://www.the-oasis.net/ FTP Site ftp://ftp.the-oasis.net
Re: qmHandle vs. qmail-mrtg-queue
You have the two confused.. qmail-mrtg-queue returns number of messages in the queue and number of message unprocessed in the queue. qmhandle is returning concurrency for local and remote.. Sean - Original Message - From: "Olivier M." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "QMail List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: qmHandle vs. qmail-mrtg-queue
Re: Qmail and Syslogd?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:24:15AM +0200, Stefan Laudat wrote: grrr either you have an old syslogd man page or you can't rtfm well! e.g if you specify mail.*-/var/adm/maillog you have an unsynced maillog Hopefully he previous identified the OS because, eg, Solaris does not have this capability. In other words, -path is not universal. Regards.
Qmail Under TCPServer
Thanks all who have answered my questions so far. You
have been very helpful.
I'm running into a much stranger problem now. I'm
trying to set up Qmail under TCPServer, optimally with
POP access. I've installed the TCPServer program and
checkpassword (which tests out great) as per online
instructions. Then I went ahead and added the line
into my /etc/rc that was supposed to bring up Qmail
under TCPServer on boot...and for some reason, it
didn't.
This may be a problem with my system, since for some
reason the line above this in that file, which should
be starting Apache Web Server, has quit working on me
as well (it was fine at one point). Problem is, I'm
still way too much of a UNIX novice to diagnose it.
The last part of my /etc/rc reads:
# Alternatively, on some architectures, xdm may be
started in /etc/ttys.
if [ "X${xdm_flags}" != X"NO" ]; then
echo 'starting xdm...';
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm ${xdm_flags}
fi
exit 0
# Starts Apache Web Server
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
# Starts Qmail Under TCPSERVER
tcpserver -v -u 1010 -g 1010 0 smtp
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
21 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3
The stuff at the top is just there so anyone out there
can tell if I've put those lines in the wrong place.
FYI, the system is OpenBSD 2.8, running on an old
Pentium-200.
Any help/direction would be greatly appreciated.
Alex Le Fevre
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Installing open-smtp4 on qmail-1.03 - help required urgently pls
Hi, I am trying to install open-smtp4 to enable pop before smtp. Its posing a few problems by not writing the remote ip into the file /etc/smtp.filter.newer. It only writes ":allow,RELAYCLIENT=//" into the file. I have changed tcpmakectl to tcp rules in pop3-record . Can someone give me the exact procedure. I also checked checkpassword.c where the oneliner has been added asking it to execute pop3-record. I have done as follows - Unpack open-smtp4.tar.gzUnpack checkpassword-0.81.tar.gzcd into checkpassword-0.81 Change tcpmakectl to tcprules and chmod for both pop3-record and age-smtp Issue the following command: patch ../open-smtp/checkpassword.patchMake checkpassword as per usual. Restart qmail Raghu
Re: Qmail Under TCPServer
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:28:30PM -0800, Alex Le Fevre wrote:
The last part of my /etc/rc reads:
# Alternatively, on some architectures, xdm may be
started in /etc/ttys.
if [ "X${xdm_flags}" != X"NO" ]; then
echo 'starting xdm...';
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm ${xdm_flags}
fi
exit 0
^^
everything behind exit will never be executed. exit 0 should be the last
line in your script.
# Starts Apache Web Server
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
# Starts Qmail Under TCPSERVER
tcpserver -v -u 1010 -g 1010 0 smtp
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
21 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3
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qmail-queue
Hi, Can you send me a qmail-queue patched for use with qmail-scanner, because i have patched qmail-queue but the 2 files have the same size ! Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A
Re: Qmail Under TCPServer
Duh! Thanks.
One remaining question: shouldn't those show up in my
process list if I do a ps ax? I ask because I tried
setting up the account in Outlook Express on a Windows
machine, and when it tried to connect, it got a socket
error.
Thanks,
Alex
--- Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 12:28:30PM -0800, Alex Le
Fevre wrote:
The last part of my /etc/rc reads:
# Alternatively, on some architectures, xdm may be
started in /etc/ttys.
if [ "X${xdm_flags}" != X"NO" ]; then
echo 'starting xdm...';
/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm ${xdm_flags}
fi
exit 0
^^
everything behind exit will never be executed. exit
0 should be the last
line in your script.
# Starts Apache Web Server
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
# Starts Qmail Under TCPSERVER
tcpserver -v -u 1010 -g 1010 0 smtp
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
21 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3
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Re: Qmail Under TCPServer
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 01:14:34PM -0800, Alex Le Fevre wrote: Duh! Thanks. One remaining question: shouldn't those show up in my process list if I do a ps ax? Yes. One supervise process per service, plus the app itself (mostly something like tcpserver [options] qmail-anything), normally plus one additional supervise per service for logging and one multilog per service. On our main mail machines i have typically about 25 qmail-related processes (plus the ones for connected clients plus running deliveries), if you don't have qmqp, qmtp, spop3 and such nice stuff there are less. --- Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please stop full quoting, instead just quote the part you are referring to. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
qmail problem ?
What is qmail concurrency ? It's normal ? http://mrtg.ndsoftware.net/concurrency.html http://mrtg.ndsoftware.net/messstatus.html Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A
Maildir versus malibox
Hello In discusion - regard to Maildir versus mailbox question - for promoting Maidir were is useful to encourage pine authors to adapting the pine program for directly work with Maildir fromat. Pine, as I think, is most popular software in Unix for mail reading/writing. If the new version were able to support Maildir without to install additional patch, the Maildir also qmail would be more popular and thus more functional :-) Mutt - in my opinion is to "raw" and the all energy should gonna Maildir format to gain for it the "pine team". Piotr --- Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [http://www.am.torun.pl/~pekasz]
Re: qmail problem ?
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:41:01PM +0100, NDSoftware wrote: What is qmail concurrency ? It's normal ? aie, yes. read the manual... -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: qmail problem ?
Am 20.01.2001 um 23:41:01 schrieb NDSoftware: Hi Nicolas What is qmail concurrency ? it is a non-standard control file introduced in LifeWithQmail. It is used in the tcpserver call. It specifies the maximum numbers of the qmail-smtpd processes that can run simultaniously. If not specified the default is 40. Simply said it is the maximum number of smtp-connections that can be made to your server. Hopefully this helped /ch
[OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 10:42:11PM -, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: In discusion - regard to Maildir versus mailbox question - for promoting Maidir were is useful to encourage pine authors to adapting the pine program for directly work with Maildir fromat. maybe you find this useful, I don't. So contact the pine authors. Pine, as I think, is most popular software in Unix for mail reading/writing. pine is a security nightmare AFAIK. If the new version were able to support Maildir without to install additional patch, the Maildir also qmail would be more popular and thus more functional :-) a) I as many others don't care about pine b) qmail is _very_ functional, can't see any dependency to pine c) popularity isn't always the best goal Mutt - in my opinion is to "raw" and the all energy should gonna Maildir format to gain for it the "pine team". Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't start a MUA discussion here. If you want pine to support Maildirs natively (mutt does btw) contact the pine authors, this is _ways_ OT here. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: qmail problem ?
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 01:09:35AM +0100, Clemens Hermann wrote: What is qmail concurrency ? it is a non-standard control file wrong. there are concurrencylocal and concurrencyremote, both standard control files. It specifies the maximum numbers of the qmail-smtpd processes that can run simultaniously. wrong. concurrenylocal affects qmail-lspawn (and therefore qmail-local), concurrencaremote affects qmail-rspawn (and therefore qmail-remote). If not specified the default is 40. wrong. default for local and remote is 20 each. Simply said it is the maximum number of smtp-connections that can be made to your server. wrong wrong wrong. the concurrencies are for DELIVERIES, not for inbound connections. Hopefully this helped aehh... -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: qmail-queue
Am 20.01.2001 um 22:05:42 schrieb NDSoftware: Hi, Hi Nicolas, Can you send me a qmail-queue patched for use with qmail-scanner, why don't we try to get it to run on your computer? It might not be a good idea to take a program from someone you do not know, sent to you per mail. You can imagine yourself what could happen. because i have patched qmail-queue how did you do this? where did you download the patch? how did you call patch (commandline). What did patch say? but the 2 files have the same size ! this is not necesarily a problem but very likely patch failed. Have a look at the patched file and try to find the lines in the patch file. Are they there? regards /ch
Re: qmail problem ?
Am 21.01.2001 um 00:19:14 schrieb Henning Brauer: Hi Henning, What is qmail concurrency ? it is a non-standard control file wrong. there are concurrencylocal and concurrencyremote, both standard control files. sorry, I mixed up concurrency and concurrencyincomming. Taken this, at least the other answers were correct ;-) I did not use this myself, I just tried to proved some little help to Nicolas and - now he got it, thanks to you ;-) good n8 /ch
Re: Maildir versus malibox
Hello Pine is a rotten bunch of crap. So make better functionaly and intuitionaly software as pine :-) Piotr --- Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [http://www.am.torun.pl/~pekasz]
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
Hello Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't This is the good opportunity to make functionality of Mutt better. I let to see to much porblems and this is reason, that I don't use Mutt with plesure. Piotr --- Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [http://www.am.torun.pl/~pekasz]
Re: Maildir versus malibox
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:20:05AM +0100, Robin S. Socha wrote: * Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pine, as I think, is most popular software in Unix for mail reading/writing. Pine is a rotten bunch of crap. find pine4.21 -type f | xargs egrep '(sprintf|strcpy|strcat)' | wc -l 4299 Yes, pine is crappy, and pine is bloatware. Also, pine is not as featureful as mutt. (even though one might argue that pine supports nntp). But... You can't ignore the fact that pine _is_ probably the most popular MUA. It's cursor driven interface is perfect for dumb^H^H^H^Hend users. Who cares if it doesn't support maildirs, or if it lacks some features, or even if it uses by default the crappiest text editor I've ever seen? It's easy to use. Just like Windows :) RC -- +--- | Ricardo Cerqueira | PGP Key fingerprint - B7 05 13 CE 48 0A BF 1E 87 21 83 DB 28 DE 03 42 | Novis Telecom - Engenharia ISP / Rede Tcnica | P. Duque Saldanha, 1, 7 E / 1050-094 Lisboa / Portugal | Tel: +351 2 1010 - Fax: +351 2 1010 4459 PGP signature
Re: Maildir versus malibox
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:44:08PM -, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: Pine is a rotten bunch of crap. So make better functionaly and intuitionaly software as pine :-) If "functionaly and intuitiomaly" counts more then security for you, you might want to check outlook and windooze. sorry. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Qmail Under TCPServer
Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): exit 0 ^^ everything behind exit will never be executed. exit 0 should be the last line in your script. # Starts Apache Web Server /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start # Starts Qmail Under TCPSERVER tcpserver -v -u 1010 -g 1010 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 21 | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 Also, tcpserver is in /usr/local/bin per default, which probably is not in the PATH. Felix
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:12:55AM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't start a MUA discussion here. If you want pine to support Maildirs natively (mutt does btw) contact the pine authors, this is _ways_ OT here. The author of PINE flat out refuses to support Maildir. --Adam
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:45:31PM +, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: Hello Maybe you just don't spend enough effort to understand mutt, but I won't This is the good opportunity to make functionality of Mutt better. I let to see to much porblems and this is reason, that I don't use Mutt with plesure. Are you using babelfish to make your posts? Just wondering. Mutt is pretty intuitive. Not quite as intuitive as pine, but it should only take a few days for most pine users to make the switch. --Adam
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
i've had lots of problems with mutt concerned its sorting. i've consistently seen mutt think messages from november 28th interpreted as being from january 4th, 2002, as an example. weird things like that. that's simply unacceptable to me. plus the whole idiotic self-quoting thing on the top of mutt's web page, and some other stuff on the web pages, just makes me think that the author is an idiot. but that's certainly not very objective reasoning. old redhat releases of pine included a patch for maildir support. however, pine is _extremely_ inefficient when it comes to large mailboxes (maildirs, i should say). get a few thousand messages in one, and pine will annoy you something awful. it seems to try to rebuild the message list in a box from scratch repeatedly every time certain operations are performed, or a timeout is met. very, very frustrating. for now i'm still using an old pine with the maildir patch, as that mutt date interpretation thing simply makes it impossible for me to use. i started writing my own mua that will probably be very, very minimal in features, just so i can avoid these stupid yet horrendous problems. i haven't done much with it recently, however, so who knows when it will be usable. pine's license is also kind of...not cool. but then again, people using qmail probably aren't very license-religious. chuckle. so shrug, lose-lose situation. -tcl.
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir
* Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:45:31PM +, Piotr Kasztelowicz wrote: This is the good opportunity to make functionality of Mutt better. I let to see to much porblems and this is reason, that I don't use Mutt with plesure. Are you using babelfish to make your posts? Just wondering. Nope. The Dialectizer with the "Polish impersonator of the Swedish Cook(tm) module(R)". Mutt is pretty intuitive. U... Nope. It lacks a --luser-gui switch. But then again, who cares? Not quite as intuitive as pine, but it should only take a few days for most pine users to make the switch. # muttrc.Pine 1.0 by Daniel Gonzlez Gasull # Feedback is welcome. Email: gasull[at]usa.net # http://gasull.home.ml.org # # This file contains commands to change the keybindings in Mutt to be # similar to those of PINE 3.96. -- Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/
Re: Maildir versus malibox
* Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pine is a rotten bunch of crap. So make better functionaly and intuitionaly software as pine :-) May I introduce myself? I am /the/ Robin S. Socha, horror of news:comp.mail.pine and founding member of the nancyboys (also of cmp fame). Which part of "pine sucks more than words can describe" did you not understand? Gnus and mutt exist, support SIMAP and Maildir and I use both. And no, I don't want your Cc:s. Thankyouverymuch. -- Robin S. Socha http://socha.net/ "The new glue is, unfortunately, ignored by recent versions of the BIND cache; the detailed technical explanation for this is that the BIND company is a bunch of idiots." (DJB)
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
Hello take a few days for most pine users to make the switch. I will not say, that mutt is not-useful, but it could be better :-) For me - the first problem is how make, that the sent mail shall be placed in sent folder - Neverless it don't me simple :-( and I have to less time to sacrificate more time. I will say only, that the softwares provided for users (not for UNIX administrators) should be really simple to use! Maybe the exapmples of Muttrc files or especiall WWW on subject Mutt can help. I will say in my post, I will help no criticize to present the viewpoint of peoples, who are users no admins. It seems to be important how the software see the others, who don't aspirate to be qmail list subscribers! Piotr --- Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [http://www.am.torun.pl/~pekasz]
Weird double To: in bounce-backs...
For some strange reason, I occassionally receive bounce-backs (i.e. Returned mail: ) that have a double To: field in the headers... e.g.: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is obviously wrong and gives qmail a headache. Instead of parsing the incoming bounce-back to a bounce-back handling Perl script (as it always did before) qmail now sends those bounce-backs to me and floods my mailbox... Is there a root cause for the problem and any idea how to fix it? I have been running in the same environment for months now and this problem only started very recently... Thanks for your help. Simon Grabowski
couldn't find any host
I am running OpenBSD 2.7 and I just installed qmail. I am able to recieve e-mail just fine, but when attempting to send e-mail as in step 5 of TEST.deliver I use: echo to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject and the log reports: Jan 20 12:54:29 mail qmail: 980024069.412360 new msg 88457 Jan 20 12:54:29 mail qmail: 980024069.414730 info msg 88457: bytes 213 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 16727 uid 1000 Jan 20 12:54:29 mail qmail: 980024069.530847 starting delivery 14: msg 88457 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 20 12:54:29 mail qmail: 980024069.533984 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Jan 20 12:54:30 mail qmail: 980024070.874084 delivery 14: failure: Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_bucknell.edu._(#5.1.2)/ Jan 20 12:54:30 mail qmail: 980024070.951459 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jan 20 12:54:31 mail qmail: 980024071.142996 bounce msg 88457 qp 5184 Jan 20 12:54:31 mail qmail: 980024071.150650 end msg 88457 after which it sends an e-mail to the local account and I can recieve that. The DNS records all should be right. The mail server is mail.ebolle.com. The domain is being managed by register.com, but the MX record points to this machine, as does everything else. This machine is currently using register.com's domain servers in resolv.conf. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Bolle
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:24:05 -0500 (EST), Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: P I will not say, that mutt is not-useful, but it could be better :-) For P me - the first problem is how make, that the sent mail shall be placed P in sent folder. If you want a copy of all your sent messages, I'd use qmail for that instead of relying on anything else. Assuming your userid is "pekasz", have your MUA add a header to outgoing messages: Bcc: pekasz-bcc Create ~/.qmail-bcc holding the following line: | (preline /bin/cat; echo) $HOME/mail/sentmail This way, you get a copy of the message as it was seen by qmail. I've been using this method for quite some time with no problems. Since I use procmail to handle filtering, I also save portions of outgoing message headers in case I lose someone's address: % cat ~/.qmail-header | (preline formail -XFrom: -XSubject: -XDate: -XTo: -XCc: -XMessage-ID: ; echo) $HOME/mail/SENT.`/bin/date +%Yw%W` (all on one line, of course). -- Karl Vogel[EMAIL PROTECTED] ASC/YCOA, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433, USA Never criticize a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes. That way, you'll be a mile away from him and have his shoes as well. --Peter Salzman
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 09:56:27PM -0500, Karl Vogel wrote: On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:24:05 -0500 (EST), Piotr Kasztelowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: P I will not say, that mutt is not-useful, but it could be better :-) For P me - the first problem is how make, that the sent mail shall be placed P in sent folder. set record=+sent The sample Muttrc file is pretty good reading. Regards.
POP Toaster
I had a working Qmail setup where email was delivered to local accounts and I decided to change to a single UID POP toaster approach. I read Paul Greggs paper on setting it up, but for some reason, it's still not working. I can check my email, so I know the POP portion is working, but whenver someone sends email to one of the users, it gets the following bounce: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dogbert.webscripting.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6) I've taken webscripting.net out of the locals file (like the document says) and it is now empty. The virtualhosts file has: webscripting.net:webscripting-net The rcpthosts file has: webscripting.net The assign file has: =webscripting-net-peder:popuser:508:103:/home/popuser/webscripting.net/peder /::: . Again, I can authenticate my user via pop, so I don't think it's the assign file, but I can't figure out what the problem is. It's almost as if I'm completely missing some setting (which is possible). Any ideas? Peder
Re: couldn't find any host
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:55:14PM -0500, Jeff Bolle wrote: [...] Jan 20 12:54:30 mail qmail: 980024070.874084 delivery 14: failure: Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_bucknell.edu._(#5.1.2)/ [...] This machine is currently using register.com's domain servers in resolv.conf. You should be using a closer recursive nameserver, like the one at your ISP or your own local DNS cache.
CNAME errors, qmail-1.03+patches-18
Evening folks. I'm running into the CNAMEs error that everyone else seems to have trouble with at some point in time. I have Bruce's qmail-patch18 version of qmail (which includes the big-dns patch) but I'm still having quiet a lot of trouble. Here's an example: - LOG FOR NEW MESSAGE - Jan 19 17:18:17 seventh qmail: 979949897.984215 new msg 1134325 Jan 19 17:18:17 seventh qmail: 979949897.984701 info msg 1134325: bytes 805 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21196 uid 101 Jan 19 17:18:18 seventh qmail: 979949898.016691 starting delivery 7: msg 1134325 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 19 17:18:18 seventh qmail: 979949898.016964 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Jan 19 17:18:18 seventh qmail: 979949898.017095 starting delivery 8: msg 1134325 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 19 17:18:18 seventh qmail: 979949898.017218 status: local 1/10 remote 1/20 Jan 19 17:18:18 seventh qmail: 979949898.065016 delivery 7: success: did_0+0+0/ Jan 19 17:18:18 seventh qmail: 979949898.070105 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Jan 19 17:18:38 seventh qmail: 979949918.075619 delivery 8: deferral: CNAME_lookup_failed_temporarily._(#4.4.3)/ Jan 19 17:18:38 seventh qmail: 979949918.076077 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 - RUN NSLOOKUP ON HOTMAIL - % nslookup hotmail.com - SEND SIGNAL 'ALRM' TO QMAIL-SEND TO RESEND EVERYTHING - % kill -ALRM 12345 - LOG FOR RESENDING - Jan 19 17:20:49 seventh qmail: 979950049.559996 starting delivery 9: msg 1134325 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 19 17:20:49 seventh qmail: 979950049.560413 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 Jan 19 17:20:50 seventh qmail: 979950050.259506 delivery 9: success: 216.32.243.136_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_Requested_mail_action_okay,_completed/ Jan 19 17:20:50 seventh qmail: 979950050.264649 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Jan 19 17:20:50 seventh qmail: 979950050.265027 end msg 1134325 Notice that it works just fine after I do an nslookup for hotmail.com. Course, after awhile that seems to go away and I have to redo an 'nslookup hotmail.com' to get emails to hotmail.com to work. Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this? Could it have something to do with unix-tcp? I think I have version .88-1. Thanks! :) Oh, this is on a RedHat 7.0 server, with BIND 8. Also, qmail won't do a reverse lookup on the domains in the 'control/virtualhosts' file, and I believe it's a related problem. Btw, I didn't have this problem on RedHat 6.0 with the same files (cept it was qmail-1.03+patches-17). Appreciate any help! \=/,_-===-_--_-==-_-===-_--_ | @___oo ( Corey Crawford) /\ /\ / (___,,,}_-=[EMAIL PROTECTED] )_ ) /^\) ^\/ _)=__ TajanaMUD / seventh.net ) ) /^\/ _) (_seventh.net 7070) ) _ / / _)-===-___--___-=-___-===- /\ )/\/ || | )_) |(,,) )__) || /\)___)\ | \( )___) )___ \__(___;;; __;;; _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: POP Toaster
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 12:26:09AM -0600, Peder Angvall wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host, I've taken webscripting.net out of the locals file (like the document says) and it is now empty. The virtualhosts file has: webscripting.net:webscripting-net So, you're forwarding mail for "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to "webscripting-net-user" *AT WHAT DOMAIN*? If a name doesn't have an "@" in it, it uses the value of "/var/qmail/control/envnoathost", which defaults to the value of "/var/qmail/control/me". You probably want to put something like "myhostname.webscripting.net" in envnoathost, and list it in locals. That'll probably fix the problem. file, but I can't figure out what the problem is. It's almost as if I'm completely missing some setting (which is possible). Any ideas? Don't worry, this one is kind of subtle and quick to anger. -- 668: Next door neighbor of the beast. vivivi: The editor of the beast. Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous [EMAIL PROTECTED] tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:02:51PM -0500, tc lewis wrote: i've had lots of problems with mutt concerned its sorting. i've consistently seen mutt think messages from november 28th interpreted as being from january 4th, 2002, as an example. weird things like that. that's simply unacceptable to me. When sorting by date mutt only barfs when the date header is messed up. Are you sure the date headers in those messages are standards compliant? plus the whole idiotic self-quoting thing on the top of mutt's web page, and some other stuff on the web pages, just makes me think that the author is an idiot. but that's certainly not very objective reasoning. This is coming from someone who doesn't know what capitalization is. But you can't please them all, right? for now i'm still using an old pine with the maildir patch, as that mutt date interpretation thing simply makes it impossible for me to use. Like I said I've had no problems in this area except when the message itself was flawed. Are you sure you are using Mutt properly?
Re: [OT] pine and Maildir (was: Maildir versus malibox)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Alex Pennace wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:02:51PM -0500, tc lewis wrote: i've had lots of problems with mutt concerned its sorting. i've consistently seen mutt think messages from november 28th interpreted as being from january 4th, 2002, as an example. weird things like that. that's simply unacceptable to me. When sorting by date mutt only barfs when the date header is messed up. Are you sure the date headers in those messages are standards compliant? i would much rather simply sort by the mailbox. which i've tried. and it still gets messed up. why on earth do muas think they're smarter than mtas? whatever. but i was using an old version of mutt so who knows? plus the whole idiotic self-quoting thing on the top of mutt's web page, and some other stuff on the web pages, just makes me think that the author is an idiot. but that's certainly not very objective reasoning. This is coming from someone who doesn't know what capitalization is. But you can't please them all, right? this is the absolute worst argument i've ever heard in my entire life. don't ever email me again. for now i'm still using an old pine with the maildir patch, as that mutt date interpretation thing simply makes it impossible for me to use. Like I said I've had no problems in this area except when the message itself was flawed. Are you sure you are using Mutt properly? no, i'm not sure. i've been talking about this in private messages with someone else. i'm not sure that my use of mutt is perfect, altho i have no idea what i could possibly be messing up. nevertheless, if i have to mess around with it that much for it to be coherent for me to use, it's not the proper tool for me. to each his own. -tcl.
