sqwebmail

[Mike Jimenez]

Im looking for some help with Sqwebmail.
When I run "make" I get the following error.

preauthvchkpw.c: In function `auth_vchkpw_pre':
preauthvchkpw.c:70: warning: passing arg 2 of `make_user_dir' makes integer
from pointer without a cast
preauthvchkpw.c:70: too many arguments to function `make_user_dir'
make[1]: *** [preauthvchkpw.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/installers/sqwebmail-2.1.1/authlib'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Thanks
Mike

sqwebmail

[Bob Ross]

Anyone have any suggestions for a web based email alternative to sqwebmail?

Thanks

Sqwebmail

[Bob Ross]

Ooops, forgot the rest of the message.

When I run everything the very last make gives me the following error.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks


 make install-configure
list="ldapaddressbook.dist `cat authlib/authconfiglist`"; \
for file in $list; do \
file="/usr/local/share/sqwebmail/$file" ; \
case "$file" in *.dist) \
@SYSCONFTOOL@ $file;; esac ; done
/bin/sh: @SYSCONFTOOL@: command not found
make: *** [install-configure] Error 127 

sqwebmail

[Paul Farber]

Hello all... 

Trying to get sqwebmail up and running an a RH 5.2 qmail 1.03 system.
This is one case where there is no M to RTF.

The sqwebmail list seems dead, or it didn't take my reply to subscribe...
anyone use this front end can give some tips?

Thanks

Paul D. Farber II
Farber Technology
Ph. 570-628-5303
Fax 570-628-5545
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

SQWebMail

[Martin Paulucci]

Hi again,

I'm now configuring SQWebmail. I'm going to enter all the parameters for
it in the ./configure [parameters]
but I've found some of them confussing:

1) If I'm using vchkpw, should I also put --enable-webpass=yes ? or
not?.
2) In with-maxformargsize=n (n is expressed in kilobytes?)
3) Where can I get a Banners program for SQWebmail
4) Is there any Spell checker for spanish?.

Many thanks!

SqWebMail

[Sylwester S. Biernacki]

Hi all qmailers :))

I know that it's not question for qmail-list but I don't know what to
do with this.
I have Qmail with vpopmail with MySQL.
I wish to make SqWebMail working, but it seems to not do so properly.
When I put username@domain where username is account in Linux
passwd/shadow it works fine. But when I put i.e.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and correct password (checked via pop3) it
doesn't work.

I compiled SqWebMail with this options:
./configure  --without-authpam --without-authuserdb --enable-webpass=no 
--without-authpwd --withou
t-authshadow --enable-cgibindir=/home/www/webmail/cgi-bin --enable-webpass=vpopmail 
--with-db=gdbm -
-with-userdb=/etc/userdb 
--with-makedatprog='${exec_prefix}/libexec/sqwebmail/makedatprog' --with-fo
rmdata --without-authlib-man --with-authdaemonvar=${datadir}/sqwebmail/authdaemon 
--sysconfdir=${dat
adir}/sqwebmail

Can you tell me what is wrong ?

-- 
pozdrawiam,
Sylwester S. Biernacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sqwebmail

[Pablo Buenaventura]

Hi All,

I am newbie with qmail.

I would like to know how to use sqwebmail in a simple
manner and where I can get information about it?

Many thanks,

Pablo

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Re: sqwebmail

[Drew Raines]

* Mike Jimenez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 10:44 06/13/2001:
>
> Im looking for some help with Sqwebmail.
> When I run "make" I get the following error.

Try your inquiry at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
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Sqwebmail question

[Brendan McAlpine]

Is there any way to prevent email accounts or forwards from showing up in
the web admin interface in sqwebmail?

I don't want to disable the qmail admin web interface completely, I just
want certain accounts not to show up in the web interface.  Is this
possible?

Brendan

Re: sqwebmail

[Dushyanth Harinath]

squirrel mail
regards

> Anyone have any suggestions for a web based email alternative to
> sqwebmail?
> 
> Thanks


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Re: sqwebmail

[Jason Nunnelley]

What do you have against SQWebmail. You can reply off-list. I just
wonder.

- Jason A. Nunnelley


On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 10:15:26PM -0700, Bob Ross said
> Anyone have any suggestions for a web based email alternative to sqwebmail?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

sqwebmail problem

[Jia Rong]

I have installed vpopmail+mysql+qmail,it is all ok.   
 Now i begin to install sqwebmail and meet  trouble.
i run ./configure --enalbe-authvchkpw --without-authpam --without-authuserdb 
--without-authpwd --without-authshadow --enable-webpass=no
 
   then run make
 
there is some error massage like this:
 /tmp/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 537:undefined reference to 'mysql_free_result'
 /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a vuth.o):infunction'vopen_smtp_relay':
 /tmp/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 563:undefined reference to 'mysql_query'
 .
 .  
 .
 make[1]:***[authvchkpw] Error 1
 make:***[all-recursive] Error 1
 
/tmp/vpopmail-4.8.4 is the path i unzip the tar file
/home/vpopmail is the path i install
 
pls tech me how to do then.



  

   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sqwebmail Documentation

[Alex Le Fevre]

I know this is the wrong place to ask, but the
sqwebmail mailing list is incredibly slow/unpopulated.
Do any of you know where I could find documentation
for that package? I'm trying to do things like set up
multiple virtual domains, change my timeout time, etc.

Thanks,
Alex Le Fevre

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maildir/sqwebmail

[Jean Caron]

Hi,

I'm about to move from Mailbox to Maildir. The goal is to run sqwebmail. I
have been running qmail on Linux (slackware) for a few years already, no
problem.

I'm just wondering, is there a procedure, a how-to, anything I could
review before doing this ? All I have now, is the INSTALL.maildir from the
qmail distribution and bits and pieces of information from the qmail site.
I did not really find enough to feel "comnfortable" with the procedure. I
only have a few users. I also use rblsmtpd and tcpserver.

Any suggestion ?
Thanks,
Jean
Ps. Furthermore, any suggestion of setting sqwebmail are welcomed.

sqwebmail-1.2.5

[Bill Parker]

Hi All,

With the help of inter7.com, I now have qmailadmin and vpopmail upgraded to
the latest versions.  I decided to have a go at it with upgrading sqwebmail 
to version
1.2.5 on my own.

I found the following ./configure was used originally when sqwebmail was first
installed:

# ./configure
   --enable-webpass=no
   --without-authldap
   --without-authpam
   --without-authuserdb
   --with-db=gdbm
   --enable-cgibindir='/home/httpd/cgi-bin'
   --with-userdb=/etc/userdb
   --with-makedatprog='${exec_prefix}/libexec/sqwebmail/makedatprog'
   --with-formdata
   --without-authlib-man
   --sysconfdir=${datadir}/sqwebmail

now, if I use the same ./configure for version 1.2.5, it should work the
same way, no?

Any help would be appreciated (trying to learn on my own)

-Bill

RE: Sqwebmail

[Tim Hunter]

www.inter7.com/sqwebmail

-Original Message-
From: Pablo Buenaventura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 5:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sqwebmail


Hi All,

I am newbie with qmail.

I would like to know how to use sqwebmail in a simple
manner and where I can get information about it?

Many thanks,

Pablo

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qmail and sqwebmail

[Joshua Nichols]

I am trying to install sqwebmail on a server running qmail.

I followed the (limited) installation documentation, and seem to have gotten
it installed and partially running.  qmail is installed and working
correctly (as far as I can tell), as is qmail-pop3d.  The sqwebmail
documentation makes occasional references to vpopmail, which concerns me
slightly considering the problem I'm having.

I cannot login.  I am using a functional account, but sqwebmail rejects the
username/password.

I know this does not provide you with much specific error data, but
hopefully someone out there has tried this, and can tell me what I have to
do to get the authentication working.  Has anyone ever gotten this working
with qmail-pop3d and checkpassword?  Do I need to use a different pop
server?

Any assistance/direction would be greatly appreciated.


--joshua.

Qmail-Sqwebmail-LDAP

[Remo Mattei]

Hi guys, here is the scenario:
I had everything working no problem, Sqwebmail and LDAP, but once
I upgrade to 2.4.3 kernel and iptables 1.2.1a then my LDAP stopped
working, I wonder if anyone has had same problem. I tried it without any
firewall rules to check if it would work but no luck, Again worked fine
with ipchains.

Thanks Again guys,
REMO

sqwebmail and qmail?

[Bill Parker]

Hi All,

I was wondering, is there a way to make a reply to a
message sent from sqwebmail not show the username@FQDN but
rather username@domain

example:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is what comes up now in
response to a reply in a MUA, but I want it to be just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (where bar.com is the domain).  Is this
possible?  I have this issue on my mail server, and while
minor, I would like to know if it can be eliminated?

-Bill

sqwebmail cannot compile

[Jia Rong]

  Hi all:  

   
   I use vpopmail+mysql+sqwebmail,and have installed vopopmail+mysql.  i think it is 
ok.
  then there is some problem when i install sqwebmail.
  
 i run ./configure --enalbe-authvchkpw --without-authpam
--without-authuserdb --without-authpwd --without-authshadow
--enable-webpass=no
 
   then run make
 
there is some error massage like this:
 ...
 /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 537:undefined reference to 'mysql_free_result'
 /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a vuth.o):infunction'vopen_smtp_relay':
 /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 563:undefined reference to 'mysql_query'
 /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 584:undefined reference to 'mysql_query'
 .
 .  
 .  
 make[1]:***[authvchkpw] Error 1
 make:***[all-recursive] Error 1
 
/usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4 is the path i unzip the tar file
/home/vpopmail is the path i install

even if i delete the path /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4 ,the error is the same.
i think  maybe mysql lib path is wrong, but i try to copy the mysql lib file to 
/usr/lib . but it is of no effect.

 Today i reinstall Redhat6.2+qmail+mysql+vpopmail, it is all ok.
 when i install sqwebmail, it is the same error.

i am very vey anxious and will appreciate for ur help.  pls reply asap.



  

   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

sqwebmail cannot install

[Jia Rong]

Hi all:
   now i have a problem when install sqwebmail, 
I use vpopmail+mysql+sqwebmail,and have installed vopopmail4.8.4+mysql.  i think it is 
ok.
then there is some problem when i install sqwebmail0.37.

  i run ./configure --enalbe-authvchkpw --without-authpam
--without-authuserdb --without-authpwd --without-authshadow
--enable-webpass=no
 
   then run make
 
there is some error massage like this:
 ...
 /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 537:undefined reference to 'mysql_free_result'
/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a vuth.o):infunction'vopen_smtp_relay':
/usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 563:undefined reference to 'mysql_query'
/usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4/vauth.c 584:undefined reference to 'mysql_query'
.
.  
.  
make[1]:***[authvchkpw] Error 1
make:***[all-recursive] Error 1
   
  /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4 is the path i unzip the tar file
  /home/vpopmail is the path i install

   even if i delete the path /usr/local/vpopmail-4.8.4 ,the error is the same.
   i install mysql with rpm file.
 mysql lib path: /usr/lib/mysql
 mysql include path: /usr/include/mysql

   i reinstall Redhat6.2+qmail+mysql+vpopmail, it is all ok.
when i install sqwebmail, it is the same error.
  i am very vey anxious and will appreciate for ur help. 



  

   

   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

sqwebmail & qmail-pop3d ?

[Jens Georg]

hi,

i am running a small internet-server with several virtual domains and
i would like to install sqwebmail for my customers. the question is:
does qmail work together with /Maildir format and a running qmail-pop3d
or do i need the install vpopmail ? user should be able not open new
pop3 accounts; they should only read and write emails using the web.

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SQWebMail or IMP?

[Martin Paulucci]

Hi everybody,

Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also, I
need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that with
any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!. 

Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other webmail:)


Thanks!!!

SQWebmail and vmailmgrd..

[John Gonzalez/netMDC admin]

Doh, that's what i get for forwarding a bounce. Anyway, has anyone patched
sqwebmail and vmailmgrd and got them working together properly?

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:
>
>Has anyone patched either of these programs to work with each other?

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filters for sqwebmail?

[John Stile]

Does anyone have filters for sqwebmail?

sqwebmail with oracle?..

[Yavuz Sert]

Hi
I'm new in list.
That's the problem: i want all my users (over 150 000) in nt (mailsite) to
linux. i'm using qmail with (imap-maildirs).
And in mailsite the webmail program check the users and passwords from
oracle database.

Now how can i do this pass checking on linux with oracle and which web
interface program should i use?

Can i use sqwebmail with oracle and if i can how and is the 0.x version is
reliable for a large isp?

Thanks for help

Yavuz Sert
Turkport A.S.

Sqwebmail password problems

[Roberto Samarone Araujo \(RSA\)]

Hi,

I set up sqwebmail and it is working fine with Qmail but, I have a
problem. When I add an user to my system, he/she can use webmail using the
his/her password from the password file of the system. If an user change
this password, he/she need to change the password of the sqwebmail otherwise
he/she will need to use the old password to access the webmail.
Are there any way to keep the user webmail password up date from the
password file of the system ??
Sorry to this question about sqwebmail.

thanks,

Roberto Samarone Araujo

Pine/qmail/sqwebmail

[mrorange]

Can I use Pine with qmail/sqwebmail? Apparently sqwebmail is dependent upon 
a maildir directory format and when I run Pine it sets up a regular mail 
directory (/var/mail/spool?)...Is there a config I'm missing somewhere?

qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail

[Yee Siew Chin]

hi,

must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work together?

does qmail works with just qmailadmin, autoresponder,
ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
installed?

how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
typing in the username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rgds,
yee

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Re: maildir/sqwebmail

[Robin S. Socha]

* Jean Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, I'm about to move from Mailbox to Maildir. The goal is to run
> sqwebmail. I have been running qmail on Linux (slackware) for a few
> years already, no problem.

> I'm just wondering, is there a procedure, a how-to, anything I could
> review before doing this? 

No. It will simply work if you do it correctly.

> Ps. Furthermore, any suggestion of setting sqwebmail are welcomed.

Even more so on the appropriate list.
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Don't try to answer questions from users who don't provide the necessary
information. Guessing what they did is an incredible waste of time. (DJB)

RE: maildir/sqwebmail

["Próspero, Esteban"]

Jean,
try at [EMAIL PROTECTED], the official mailing list for sqwebmail.

Regards,
Esteban

> -Original Message-
> From: Jean Caron [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 4:44 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  maildir/sqwebmail
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm about to move from Mailbox to Maildir. The goal is to run sqwebmail. I
> have been running qmail on Linux (slackware) for a few years already, no
> problem.
> 
> I'm just wondering, is there a procedure, a how-to, anything I could
> review before doing this ? All I have now, is the INSTALL.maildir from the
> qmail distribution and bits and pieces of information from the qmail site.
> I did not really find enough to feel "comnfortable" with the procedure. I
> only have a few users. I also use rblsmtpd and tcpserver.
> 
> Any suggestion ?
> Thanks,
> Jean
> Ps. Furthermore, any suggestion of setting sqwebmail are welcomed.
> 

Cannot compile sqwebmail

[Mikael Vinding]

I really need some input here - I have been
trying to compile sqwebmail on mandrake 7.2

I have gcc and qmail and vpopmail compiled and
works great.

Everything looks fine until I get here :

checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... missing
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... missing
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking for gawk... (cached) gawk
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether the C compiler
(gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -f
fast-math -fexpensive-optimizations ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler
(gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -f
fast-math -fexpensive-optimizations ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for c++... no
checking for g++... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C++ compiler
(gcc -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -s -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -f
fast-math -fexpensive-optimizations ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot
create executables.
configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj

And then no joy :(

By the way - can anyone reach inter7.com ? I havent been able to
for the last 2 days.

ANY help MUCH appreciated - really stuck here!

Thanks!!
Mikael

error with sqwebmail

[Brendan McAlpine]

I get the following when trying to launch sqwebmail:

Internal error (module sqwebmail.c, line 1499) - contact system
administrator

How can I fix this problem?

Brendan

R: error with sqwebmail

[Andrea Cerrito]

I'm new to sqwebmail, but I think you can help you and us with an strace /
truss of the httpd program serving the cgi.
Good luck
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Fax. 0744 / 5441372

> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Brendan McAlpine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Inviato: giovedi 3 maggio 2001 21.40
> A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Oggetto: error with sqwebmail
>
>
> I get the following when trying to launch sqwebmail:
>
> Internal error (module sqwebmail.c, line 1499) - contact system
> administrator
>
> How can I fix this problem?
>
> Brendan
>

Re: qmail and sqwebmail

[Chris Hellberg]

I've installed the two, but not with checkpassword, so take my advice
with a grail of salt.

I've found it a real bastard when I first installed it with getting
authentication going. Tried all sorts of different compilation options.
I found one of the problems went away for some reason was when I
recreated my home directory. For some reason it could authenticate, but
not read the home directory, even though it just bumped me back to the
login screen of sqwebmail.

>From what I can gather, sqwebamil doesn't go anywhere near any pop3
protocols. I think it's all imap-based and the imap daemon and sqwebmail
is installed if you install the whole courier mail package.

Cheers

Chris

>>> "Joshua Nichols" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/18/01 10:40a.m.
>>>
I am trying to install sqwebmail on a server running qmail.

I followed the (limited) installation documentation, and seem to have
gotten
it installed and partially running.  qmail is installed and working
correctly (as far as I can tell), as is qmail-pop3d.  The sqwebmail
documentation makes occasional references to vpopmail, which concerns
me
slightly considering the problem I'm having.

I cannot login.  I am using a functional account, but sqwebmail rejects
the
username/password.

I know this does not provide you with much specific error data, but
hopefully someone out there has tried this, and can tell me what I have
to
do to get the authentication working.  Has anyone ever gotten this
working
with qmail-pop3d and checkpassword?  Do I need to use a different pop
server?

Any assistance/direction would be greatly appreciated.


--joshua.

Re: qmail and sqwebmail

[Henning Brauer]

On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:09:05PM +1200, Chris Hellberg wrote:
> From what I can gather, sqwebamil doesn't go anywhere near any pop3
> protocols. I think it's all imap-based and the imap daemon and sqwebmail
> is installed if you install the whole courier mail package.

sqwebmail doesn't use IMAP. It accesses the Maildirs directly. That's the
main reason for it's speed...

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RE: qmail and sqwebmail

[Joshua Nichols]

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Hellberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: qmail and sqwebmail
>
>
> I've installed the two, but not with checkpassword, so take my advice
> with a grail of salt.
>

It sounds as though no one has.  Is there a way to install vpopmail without
installing all of Courier?


--joshua.

Re: sqwebmail and qmail?

[Vincent Schonau]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 05:06:04PM -0700, Bill Parker wrote:
> Hi All,

>   I was wondering, is there a way to make a reply to a
> message sent from sqwebmail not show the username@FQDN but
> rather username@domain

This purely an sqwebmail issue, and your should really have asked it on the
sqwebmail mailing list. You can find the answer in the sqwebmail INSTALL
file; look for 'sendit.sh'.

Vince.

Vpopmail+SqWebmail 3 problem

[board master]

Hello,
 I have qmail 1.03 and qmailadmin w/ ezmlm & autoresponder installed on
 my Red Hat Linux 7 server. I received the follwing error message during
 setup:
 
 echo '#include "/var/vpopmail//include/config.h"' >vpopmail_config.h
 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I/var/vpopmail//include -g -O2 -Wall
 -I.. -I./.. -c authvchkpw.c
 authvchkpw.c: In function `auth_vchkpw_changepass':
 authvchkpw.c:142: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
 authvchkpw.c:151: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
 authvchkpw.c:151: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
 make[1]: *** [authvchkpw.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/sqwebmail-3.0.0/authlib'
 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 
 Apparently the error comes with the vchkpw setup. Is this a bug or is it
 me?
 Thanks.Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Re: sqwebmail with oracle?..

[Ken Jones]

Yavuz Sert wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I'm new in list.
> That's the problem: i want all my users (over 150 000) in nt (mailsite) to
> linux. i'm using qmail with (imap-maildirs).
> And in mailsite the webmail program check the users and passwords from
> oracle database.
> 
> Now how can i do this pass checking on linux with oracle and which web
> interface program should i use?
> 
> Can i use sqwebmail with oracle and if i can how and is the 0.x version is
> reliable for a large isp?

If you can wait a week or so, sqwebmail + vpopmail will work with
oracle. I'm testing a new version of an oracle vpopmail module today.

Ken Jones
inter7

Courier IMAP / Autoresponders / SQWebMail

[Kathleen Farber]

Anything I should be aware of for installing Courier IMAP with
vpop and vchkpw

We would like to install sqwebmail but worried about screwing things up
since it took a month to get it running the right way with no error messages
::whew::

Red Hat Linux 6.2
Current Qmail, QmailAdmin, EzMLM, vpop, vchkpw

Also, if anyone knows why when using autoresponders why the mail bounces but
yet the autoresponder goes out would be much appreciated!

Kathleen

Sqwebmail Problems please help

[Bob Dakota]

I am having real problems with sqwebmail.  Yesterday it just stopped
authenticating users.  Only if you are trying to get your mail via the
webmail,  if you use outlook or something you can get e-mail no problem.  I
did not do anything to it and it just stopped working.  When you try to log
in via webmail you get an invalid username or password error, and I have no
idea why.  Please help me.

Thank you


 
iWon.com   http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? 

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Michael Wand]

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Martin Paulucci wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
> functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
> that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also, I
> need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
> himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that with
> any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!. 
> 
> Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other webmail:)
> 
> 
> Thanks!!!
I was checking around with these programs in my own attempts to find a suitable
web mail solution, and I just dumped them after somebody showed me this site:

http://www.mollymail.com

It's free and it connects to any POP server, without any registration or sign
up.


Michael Wand

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Thomas M. Sasala]

Do you like splashing your passwords all over the Internet?


> I was checking around with these programs in my own attempts to find a suitable
> web mail solution, and I just dumped them after somebody showed me this site:
> 
> http://www.mollymail.com
> 
> It's free and it connects to any POP server, without any registration or sign
> up.
> 
> Michael Wand

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Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Martin Paulucci]

Hi,

What I'm actually looking for is a webmail -hotmail like- server to be
installed in my qmail server and use it to give free webmail to my ISP
users. So I need to implement some kind of start registration web page
so the user can fill and automatically -as hotmail or yahoo- gets an
email address


Bye!


> On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Martin Paulucci wrote:
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
> > functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
> > that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also, I
> > need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
> > himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that with
> > any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!.
> >
> > Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other webmail:)
> >
> >
> > Thanks!!!
> I was checking around with these programs in my own attempts to find a suitable
> web mail solution, and I just dumped them after somebody showed me this site:
> 
> http://www.mollymail.com
> 
> It's free and it connects to any POP server, without any registration or sign
> up.
> 
> Michael Wand

RE: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Van Liedekerke Franky]

look in the archives, a week or two ago their was a thread about webmail
solutions.

Franky

> --
> From: Martin Paulucci[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 5:19 PM
> To:   Michael Wand; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: SQWebMail or IMP?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What I'm actually looking for is a webmail -hotmail like- server to be
> installed in my qmail server and use it to give free webmail to my ISP
> users. So I need to implement some kind of start registration web page
> so the user can fill and automatically -as hotmail or yahoo- gets an
> email address
> 
> 
> Bye!
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Martin Paulucci wrote:
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
> > > functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
> > > that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also,
> I
> > > need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
> > > himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that
> with
> > > any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!.
> > >
> > > Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other
> webmail:)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!!!
> > I was checking around with these programs in my own attempts to find a
> suitable
> > web mail solution, and I just dumped them after somebody showed me this
> site:
> > 
> > http://www.mollymail.com
> > 
> > It's free and it connects to any POP server, without any registration or
> sign
> > up.
> > 
> > Michael Wand
> 

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[kbo]

Martin Paulucci wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
> functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
> that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also, I
> need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
> himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that with
> any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!.
> 
> Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other webmail:)
> 
> Thanks!!!

>From the admin's i've talked to, who use both IMP and sqwebmail,
SqWebmail scales better. Imp has better features but is slower.

We will have a GPL page/cgi for adding a user via vchkpw in a few
days and put it on our web site.

-- 
Ken Jones
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.inter7.com/qmailadmin/ - web based qmail adminstration

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Doug Lumpkin]

I have been loking at web mail solutions for a long time now and I have
found no better software than IMP, commercial or open-source.  The current
development tree includes POP support, which would allow you to interface
with vchkpw (and avoids having to apply all of the necessary patches to IMAP
for qmail-maildirs).  That will be the stable version very shortly.  I would
suggest checking out the mailing list for more details.

--
Doug Lumpkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Martin Paulucci wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
> functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
> that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also, I
> need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
> himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that with
> any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!.
>
> Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other webmail:)
>
> Thanks!!!

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Adam H]

We were going through the same process about a week ago.  IMP is great,
and the features that are in the prerelease-3 are excellent (with PHPLIB
support, and future persistant IMAP connections) Only problem is that IMP
is a damn resource hog, and probaly wont scale well above about 200 users
(at once), at least on our server. SQWebMail is much
nicer in that respect, but sqwebmail is
lacking many features -- unless you take the dev time on your own.
Currently there is an imapd (WA) that has been hacked to work with vchkpw,
and is on the vchkpw page.  As soon as the new vchkpw is released with
MySQL support, adding new users will be a breeze.
There are a few commerical webmail packages that are also very nice, but
just not free, but not to pricey either (20cents/user).

-adam



On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Martin Paulucci wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> Here I am deciding which webmail I'm going to use, because of
> functionality that I have seen, the IMP seems better, but I just read
> that there's no way to use it with vchkpw or something simillar. Also, I
> need to implement some kind of page that the user could fill and get
> himself an email account for free. Which is the way I could do that with
> any of those 2 programs I don't know and I can't find it anywhere!. 
> 
> Could somebody tell me where to find more info?. Or other webmail:)
> 
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 

Re: SQWebmail and vmailmgrd..

[Ol.i Th.uns]

>Doh, that's what i get for forwarding a bounce. Anyway, has anyone patched
>sqwebmail and vmailmgrd and got them working together properly?

I don't think so, but it would be great. Why doesn't sqwebmail use
checkpassword? So you could use vmailmgr's checkpassword...

Oliver

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Tim Tsai]

> http://www.mollymail.com

  This just uses emumail, which is available free (with advertising).

  Tim

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Martin Paulucci]

Dear Tim,

> > http://www.mollymail.com
>   This just uses emumail, which is available free (with advertising).
Oh...gottcha...anyway I'm looking a hotmail kind of webmail...any 
suggestion???
Best regards,

Martin Paulucci
http://www.ServiRED.COM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cell Phone: 15-4935-4246
Telephone/Fax: (+54-11)4-961-3204

Re: SQWebMail or IMP?

[Martin Paulucci]

Dear Ken,

> From the admin's i've talked to, who use both IMP and sqwebmail,
> SqWebmail scales better. Imp has better features but is slower.
Which features are not still finished in SQWebmail?.

> We will have a GPL page/cgi for adding a user via vchkpw in a few
> days and put it on our web site.
Can you give me the date it will be done?.Let me know!.:)

Many thanks,

Martin
Best regards,

Martin Paulucci
http://www.ServiRED.COM
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cell Phone: 15-4935-4246
Telephone/Fax: (+54-11)4-961-3204

SQWebmail....compilation problems...(0.20)

[Martin Paulucci]

Hi,

I'm sorry if this is out of the limits of the list, but I couldn't find
any list for SQWebmail...

After I ran the .configure like this:

./configure --with-vchkpw=yes --enable-maxpurge=30
--with-htmllibdir=/mail/webmail
--enable-cgibindir=/usr/local/apache/cgi-bin --enable-hostname=webmail
--enable-bannerprog=prog --with-maxargsize=100
-with-maxformargsize=100

(I had to take out some parameters, if not, it wouldn't take it). Is
sqwebmail checking for ispell in /usr/local/bin???.

I ran:

# make
make  all-recursive
Making all in maildir
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c maildircreate.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c maildircreateh.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c maildirgetquota.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c maildirparsequota.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c maildirquota.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c maildirrequota.c
rm -f libmaildir.a
ar cru libmaildir.a maildircreate.o maildircreateh.o  maildirgetquota.o
maildirparsequota.o maildirquota.o maildirrequota.o
ranlib libmaildir.a
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c deliverquota.c
gcc  -g -O2 -Wall  -o deliverquota  deliverquota.o libmaildir.a
./html2man.pl deliverquota.8
sh: ./html2man.pl: not found
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `deliverquota.8'
Current working directory /root/pkgs/mail_server/sqwebmail-0.20/maildir
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive'
Current working directory /root/pkgs/mail_server/sqwebmail-0.20
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive-am'

And got this.

Any idea?. It seems that html2man.pl is not there... but it is.:(((

Many thanks in advance!!!

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Randy Harmon]

Dan Bernstein:  Clarification on use of Maildir requested.  Direct query to
you at the bottom of the mail.

Regarding a webmail system for maildirs, which creates a structure like
this to support webmail folders:

Maildir/.customfolder1/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.customfolder2/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/localoptionfile1
Maildir/localoptionfile2

On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 01:37:04PM -0400, Sam wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Randy Harmon wrote:
> 
> > And yet it knows about folders, and munges a True Maildir into Not A True
> > Maildir in order to implement folders differently from True Maildir clients
> > like Mutt.
> 
> DJB's specs on maildirs mention nothing about folders, so you cannot point
> to any implementation as being right or wrong, because there is no right
> or wrong way.  Blame Dan Bernstein for an incomplete design.

Ah, just so.  My opinions based entirely on just one or two implementations. 
Perhaps asking him for a clarification would be more productive than placing
blame.

... time passes ...

I've just searched the qmail list archives rather thoroughly for Dan's
thoughts.  On Tue, 07 Jan 1997, Dan Bernstien is attributed at
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1997/01/msg00205.html
to have said:

someone else> In particular, the handling of multiple folders needs to be
fully
someone else> specified.  

Dan> You can set up several maildirs if you want. What's the question?

The response seemed to put off the person who asked the question, resulting
in no solution.  Dan, the question is:

What is your recommendation for creating in Maildir format:

 a) Multiple mail folders for use by MUAs

 b) Sub-folders for use by MUAs

Two approaches have been used: 

  1)~/Maildir/{new,cur} == INBOX and 
~/Maildir/.foldername/{new,cur} == foldername

  2)~/Maildir/{new,cur} == INBOX and 
~/foldername/{new,cur} == foldername

Thanks for the crossposted clarification.

Randy

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Racer X]

> > DJB's specs on maildirs mention nothing about folders, so you cannot
point
> > to any implementation as being right or wrong, because there is no right
> > or wrong way.  Blame Dan Bernstein for an incomplete design.

Maildir was designed to ensure that messages could be written safely by an
MTA without having to worry about locking out an MUA that's accessing the
folder at the same time.  once the messages are on disk it's the UA's
problem to filter/move them around.  yes, i'm considering a filtering
program run out of dot-qmail to be a UA; i don't think it's fair to consider
it part of the TA.

> What is your recommendation for creating in Maildir format:

somehow i doubt you're going to get an answer from dan on this one.  my
personal feeling is "let the UA decide how it wants to make folders," as
it's an issue of policy and not function.

shag

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Randy Harmon]

On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 12:40:27PM -0700, Racer X wrote:
> > > DJB's specs on maildirs mention nothing about folders, so you cannot
> point
> > > to any implementation as being right or wrong, because there is no right
> > > or wrong way.  Blame Dan Bernstein for an incomplete design.
> 
> Maildir was designed to ensure that messages could be written safely by an
> MTA without having to worry about locking out an MUA that's accessing the
> folder at the same time.  once the messages are on disk it's the UA's
> problem to filter/move them around.  yes, i'm considering a filtering
> program run out of dot-qmail to be a UA; i don't think it's fair to consider
> it part of the TA.
> 
> > What is your recommendation for creating in Maildir format:
> 
> somehow i doubt you're going to get an answer from dan on this one.  my
> personal feeling is "let the UA decide how it wants to make folders," as
> it's an issue of policy and not function.

And yet, if multiple MUAs are free to implement any way they feel, then
there is no recommended way and different MUAs cannot nicely co-exist.  Take the
example of a Mutt user who uses a webmail program to access mail.  If the
two MUAs work differently, they can't see each other's folders.  

If there were a recommended way to implement these well-known features, it
could reduce confusion and support peaceful co-existence between UAs.

Thanks...

Randy

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Asmodeus]

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Randy Harmon wrote:

> If there were a recommended way to implement these well-known features, it
> could reduce confusion and support peaceful co-existence between UAs.

 It makes the most sense to me to just alter the 'normal' (to me at least)
method of laying out mail: a 'mail' directory, and instead of having the
different mail folders in mailbox format, just use Maildirs instead.

~/mail/qmail/{cur,new,tmp}
~/mail/ProFTPD/{cur,new.tmp}
etc.

Sub-maildirs are a little bit of a problem (because "cur", "new" and "tmp"
are taken already), but submaildirs are also not needed in the vast
majority of cases.

Just my $.02 CDN
.Shawn

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Racer X]

> And yet, if multiple MUAs are free to implement any way they feel, then
> there is no recommended way and different MUAs cannot nicely co-exist.
Take the
> example of a Mutt user who uses a webmail program to access mail.  If the
> two MUAs work differently, they can't see each other's folders.
>
> If there were a recommended way to implement these well-known features, it
> could reduce confusion and support peaceful co-existence between UAs.

as i mentioned in a message to the sqwebmail list earlier, there is already
a recommended way to handle this.  see the maildir page on dan's site,
specifically the section about "info."

btw, "co-existence between UAs" is generally limited to unix systems where
the messages are stored in plain text files.  it's not going to mean
anything for people on other systems where messages are stored in a database
particular to the UA (which, btw, makes for the vast majority of users).

shag

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

Asmodeus writes:

> On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Randy Harmon wrote:
> 
> > If there were a recommended way to implement these well-known features, it
> > could reduce confusion and support peaceful co-existence between UAs.
> 
>  It makes the most sense to me to just alter the 'normal' (to me at least)
> method of laying out mail: a 'mail' directory, and instead of having the
> different mail folders in mailbox format, just use Maildirs instead.
> 
> ~/mail/qmail/{cur,new,tmp}
> ~/mail/ProFTPD/{cur,new.tmp}
> etc.
> 
> Sub-maildirs are a little bit of a problem (because "cur", "new" and "tmp"
> are taken already), but submaildirs are also not needed in the vast
> majority of cases.

This is pretty much what I've done in sqwebmail, except that the code
transparently prefixes the name of each subdirectory with a . - they are
hidden subdirectories off the main Maildir.  So a luser can create a 'new'
folder, if that's what the luser wants.  I can't claim credit for this idea
- someone else suggested that approach about a year ago.

The only other thing I've done as well is automatically create a
zero-length file "maildirfolder" in each subdirectory.  This is used by an
additional section of code shared by sqwebmail and maildrop that implements
a voluntary quota mechanism.

-- 
Sam

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Randy Harmon]

On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 05:12:22PM -0700, Racer X wrote:
> > > what's wrong with using the info field, in particular, info starting
> with
> > > "1," (experimental semantics)?  if you don't like that, ask him to
> register
> > > another info field.
> >
> > I fail to see how this can be used to implement discrete folders.
> 
> if it starts with "2," and it has an R after that, it's been read.  if it
> starts with "1," and has an F after that, then immediately following the F
> is the folder name.  no, this is not perfect, it's just what i thought of
> off the top of my head.

This is a creative solution that differs from the two creative solutions
already implemented in different UAs.  Now there's at three ways that have
been discussed, which is more complex, not less.

> if you're talking about physically putting the files in different
> directories, i say that it's a UA problem to deal with, not a Maildir
> problem.  don't blame the Maildir spec for not solving a problem it wasn't
> meant to solve.

It's really not about whether or not Maildir can be used to solve the folder
problem, and there's really no blame anyone is trying to place.  We know
that a Maildir is a useful, safe place to deliver mail even simultaneously
with UA access and simultaneously with other deliveries (over NFS, without
locks).

We know that the Maildir format provides specifically for the above.

We're simply trying to establish a standard semantic for applying Maildir
to implement a common UA feature in a way that promotes interoperability
between Maildir-using UAs.

Without such a recommended standard semantic, authors will select something
they think is "nicest", which will be different from what other authors
select as being "nicest".  Of course, all these authors will be right to
implement something that doesn't break Maildirs as useful, safe places to
deliver mail even simultaneously with UA access et cetera.  Implementations
that break Maildirs' given functions will be broken implementations.

It's really just a matter of selecting one method that people can point to
as the preferred way.  If the creator of the Maildir format would comment as
to the way he would suggest, then actually putting that method in place for
specific UAs could be done with confidence of compatibility with other UAs.
Er, ones whose authors listen to DJB's suggestion.  Additionally, broken UAs
could be pointed at with confidence as implementing a broken version of
Maildir folders/subfolders.

If subfolders weren't part of some UA's folder semantics, I'm pretty sure
this wouldn't be at issue - we could use ~/Maildir/, ~/Maildir-foo/ etc and
be done.  With subfolders, the ambiguity of whether alternative folders to
INBOX should be placed inside ~/Maildir/ or in ~/Maildir-foo/ is at issue. 
Plus the second question of where subfolders should live.  Of course, all
proposed methods _work_.  But what single method should be used as standard?

Still hoping that the group can arrive at a single solution, perhaps with
Dan's assistance...

Randy

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[D. J. Bernstein]

Say you have a bunch of mboxes. You choose filenames for them. Of
course, some filenames are prohibited:

   * You can't use the name .., because that's a directory.
   * You can't use the name /Mail, because you don't have permission.
   * You can't use the name Mailbox/2, because Mailbox is a file.

But the complete list of restrictions is reasonably simple, and people
don't seem to have much trouble dealing with a few special characters.

Now change each mbox to a maildir. Whatever filenames worked with mbox
will continue to work with maildir. You now have a bunch of maildirs.
What exactly is the problem?

---Dan

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[D. J. Bernstein]

Sam writes:
> A filename named "cur" will not work.

Of course it will. There's nothing wrong with a mailbox named cur. As I
said, whatever filenames worked with mbox format will continue to work
with maildir format. So what exactly is the problem?

---Dan

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

D. J. Bernstein writes:

> Say you have a bunch of mboxes. You choose filenames for them. Of
> course, some filenames are prohibited:
> 
>* You can't use the name .., because that's a directory.
>* You can't use the name /Mail, because you don't have permission.
>* You can't use the name Mailbox/2, because Mailbox is a file.
> 
> But the complete list of restrictions is reasonably simple, and people
> don't seem to have much trouble dealing with a few special characters.
> 
> Now change each mbox to a maildir. Whatever filenames worked with mbox
> will continue to work with maildir. You now have a bunch of maildirs.
> What exactly is the problem?

A filename named "cur" will not work.

-- 
Sam

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

D. J. Bernstein writes:

> Sam writes:
> > A filename named "cur" will not work.
> 
> Of course it will. There's nothing wrong with a mailbox named cur. As I
> said, whatever filenames worked with mbox format will continue to work
> with maildir format. So what exactly is the problem?

Creating a maildir folder explicitly named "cur" will not work, for the
obvious reason that the cur is already being used to store messages in the
INBOX.

-- 
Sam

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[James J. Lippard]

I think Dan is assuming that additional mail folders won't be in the INBOX
maildir (even though that was the question that was originally asked), but
rather that you stick maildir mail folders in the same places you'd stick
mailbox-format maildirs.  I.e., not in the incoming maildir.

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Sam wrote:

> D. J. Bernstein writes:
> 
> > Sam writes:
> > > A filename named "cur" will not work.
> > 
> > Of course it will. There's nothing wrong with a mailbox named cur. As I
> > said, whatever filenames worked with mbox format will continue to work
> > with maildir format. So what exactly is the problem?
> 
> Creating a maildir folder explicitly named "cur" will not work, for the
> obvious reason that the cur is already being used to store messages in the
> INBOX.
> 
> -- 
> Sam
> 
> 

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

James J. Lippard writes:

> I think Dan is assuming that additional mail folders won't be in the INBOX
> maildir (even though that was the question that was originally asked), but
> rather that you stick maildir mail folders in the same places you'd stick
> mailbox-format maildirs.  I.e., not in the incoming maildir.

Then what you will have to ask yourself is whether you want all your
folders shared by every one of your incoming maildirs.  I could consider
the proposal of storing all folders in ../Mail, however what I don't like
about this approach is that you're now in conflict with your mail apps who
use $HOME/Mail to store traditional mailbox-file folders.

Additionally, the approach of storing folders in the INBOX maildir allows
the implementation of a voluntary quota, which I've done, and I know that
people are using it, so I'm not going to abandon that.



-- 
Sam

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Adam D . McKenna]

adam@spotted:~$ ls -l Mail
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Aug 18 01:37 billing
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 11:59 bugtraq
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:43 default
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 02:28 idt
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:36 inbox
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 02:27 inet
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:43 mailer-daemon
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:41 nanog
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  8 10:52 nic
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:46 old
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:35 qmail
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul 29 21:26 raid
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:43 root
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 01:42 smp
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Aug 13 20:13 themes.org
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Jul  2 16:05 tx
drwx--   5 adam adam 1024 Aug 18 01:33 virtual

This is the way my folders are organized.  This makes sense to me.
Everything that's not caught by a specific .qmail file or procmail rule is
sent to ~/Mail/inbox/

> Then what you will have to ask yourself is whether you want all your
> folders shared by every one of your incoming maildirs.  I could consider
> the proposal of storing all folders in ../Mail, however what I don't like
> about this approach is that you're now in conflict with your mail apps who
> use $HOME/Mail to store traditional mailbox-file folders.

If we're really that concerned about this, we could decide upon a new, 
"standard" directory (such as Maildirs/ or Mailboxes/ etc).  In any case,
mutt has no problem with my method of keeping my mail folders, and as far
as I know, most mailers allow you to specify this as a variable or config 
option.

> Additionally, the approach of storing folders in the INBOX maildir allows
> the implementation of a voluntary quota, which I've done, and I know that
> people are using it, so I'm not going to abandon that.

Fixing this up only involves the addition of a single directory inside ~/Mail.

--Adam

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Randy Harmon]

On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 03:31:42AM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> Say you have a bunch of mboxes. You choose filenames for them. Of
> course, some filenames are prohibited:
> 
>* You can't use the name .., because that's a directory.
>* You can't use the name /Mail, because you don't have permission.
>* You can't use the name Mailbox/2, because Mailbox is a file.
> 
> But the complete list of restrictions is reasonably simple, and people
> don't seem to have much trouble dealing with a few special characters.
> 
> Now change each mbox to a maildir. Whatever filenames worked with mbox
> will continue to work with maildir. You now have a bunch of maildirs.

With Maildir, the third restriction is no longer true - Maildir isn't a
file, it's a directory.

> What exactly is the problem?

1.  Multiple folders, which I feel you handle by implication quite nicely:
    Multiple mailboxes translates to multiple Maildirs.

(a)  But some MUAs (sqwebmail) won't see such multiple maildirs as
multiple folders.  They'd rather create Maildir/.foo, for instance, as
another folder 'foo' in the UA.  This '.foo' is a Maildir in and of
itself.

2.  Subfolders:  Mailboxes can't do sub-folders within themselves.  But
Maildir's structure is capable of that because it's a dir.  The Maildir
spec is unclear whether the other files shown as allowed in a maildir
is all that's allowed or whether they are 'examples-without-limitation'.

We know that clueful extensions won't break Maildir's purpose.  But
random extensions may (will!) produce a fractured non-standard.

Statement of problem: nobody has a standard, a spec, or even
recommendations from which to implement subfolders to Maildirs.

It seems clear to me that with #1 solved with multiple Maildirs in user's
home directory, that the application demonstrated in 1(a) could be applied
effectively to the #2 problem: Maildir/.foo is subfolder 'foo' in Maildir. 
But that's less clear to others.

An alternative view is that cluttering ~ with Maildir-foo and Maildir-bar,
etc., is undesireable - hence the 1(a) solution to problem 1 (but what of
subfolders? I'm unclear on that).  Other views manufacture creative
solutions, making compatibility more difficult, not easier.

Will you recommend a specific approach that UA's should use for implementing
folders and subfolders with Maildirs?  Perhaps as part of the Maildir spec?

That would help switch the debate from "what do we do since Maildir's spec
doesn't specify?" to "do we resist or do we go along with the author's
recommendation?"

Thanks for your responses.

Randy

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Chris Garrigues]

> From:  "James J. Lippard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:22:48 -0700 (MST)
>
> I think Dan is assuming that additional mail folders won't be in the INBOX
> maildir (even though that was the question that was originally asked), but
> rather that you stick maildir mail folders in the same places you'd stick
> mailbox-format maildirs.  I.e., not in the incoming maildir.

I've got a related issue.  My partner has put an item on my todo list to move 
all the mailboxes from the user's home directories to a sub-directory.

The reason for this is that apparently many of our customers can't resist the 
impulse to put random files into the mail folders.  These are people who are 
sitting on PCs or Macs and see their home directory as a folder on their 
desktop.  Apparently when they see a subfolder with the name of one of their 
contacts, they forget that it's a mail box and think it's a handy place to put 
data that just magically appeared.

One could easily argue (as I attempted to do) that there is no problem here 
because users know what they create, but in reality, as we get increasingly 
ignorant users, that assumption becomes less and less tenable.

Chris

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Russell Nelson]

D. J. Bernstein writes:
 > Say you have a bunch of mboxes. You choose filenames for them. Of
 > course, some filenames are prohibited:
 > 
 >* You can't use the name .., because that's a directory.
 >* You can't use the name /Mail, because you don't have permission.
 >* You can't use the name Mailbox/2, because Mailbox is a file.
 > 
 > But the complete list of restrictions is reasonably simple, and people
 > don't seem to have much trouble dealing with a few special characters.
 > 
 > Now change each mbox to a maildir. Whatever filenames worked with mbox
 > will continue to work with maildir. You now have a bunch of maildirs.
 > What exactly is the problem?

IMAP permits the name Mailbox/2.  Feel free to argue that that's
stupid.  It's just a drop in the bucket of stupidity which is IMAP.
Did I say stupidity?  I mean another word beginning with s.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:

> IMAP permits the name Mailbox/2.  Feel free to argue that that's
> stupid.  It's just a drop in the bucket of stupidity which is IMAP.
> Did I say stupidity?  I mean another word beginning with s.

IMAP may permit this name, in theory, but IMAP servers are free to reject
it.

I do believe that IMAP is an extremely moronic protocol, but for other
reasons, and this ain't it.  How RFC 2060 reached the Standard status is a
complete mystery to me.

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Randy Harmon]

On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:36:56PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> D. J. Bernstein writes:
>  > Say you have a bunch of mboxes. You choose filenames for them. Of
[...]
>  > Now change each mbox to a maildir. Whatever filenames worked with mbox
>  > will continue to work with maildir. You now have a bunch of maildirs.
>  > What exactly is the problem?
> 
> IMAP permits the name Mailbox/2.  Feel free to argue that that's
> stupid.  It's just a drop in the bucket of stupidity which is IMAP.
> Did I say stupidity?  I mean another word beginning with s.

Is the concept of subfolders stupid?  IMHO: no.   Given: millions of
Microsoft users are wrong.  But not on this point.

I feel it stupid that a standard for implementation of a valid and useful
concept for organization of mail can not be agreed upon, or even discussed,
beyond dismissal as 'stupid'.

MUA authors are free to implement such things.  And they will.  A standard
would help them achieve cross-compatibility.  Er, would help us.

Randy

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Russell Nelson]

Randy Harmon writes:
 > Is the concept of subfolders stupid?  IMHO: no.   Given: millions of
 > Microsoft users are wrong.  But not on this point.

The concept of being able to store both mail AND folders in a
folder is stupid.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:

> Randy Harmon writes:
>  > Is the concept of subfolders stupid?  IMHO: no.   Given: millions of
>  > Microsoft users are wrong.  But not on this point.
> 
> The concept of being able to store both mail AND folders in a
> folder is stupid.

Just as a data point, it's interesting how Pine handles it via IMAP.  
Pine will list the folder twice in the folder collection display: one
entry ends with the hierarchy delimiter character, the second entry does
not. Selecting the second entry results in Pine opening the folder's
messages.  Selecting the first entry (the one followed by the hierarchy
delimiter) results in Pine listing the subfolders.

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Chris Garrigues]

> From:  Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:12:09 -0400 (EDT)
>
> Randy Harmon writes:
>  > Is the concept of subfolders stupid?  IMHO: no.   Given: millions of
>  > Microsoft users are wrong.  But not on this point.
> 
> The concept of being able to store both mail AND folders in a
> folder is stupid.

Just as being able to store both plain files and directories in directories is 
stupid?

I've got exmh/nmh setup such that every one of my folders contains both 
messages and an 'old' sub-folder which has messages more than 2 months old.  I 
find this to be a useful way to move older stuff out of the way.  Certainly I 
could have qmail and qmail.old instead of qmail and qmail/old, but I don't see 
that it's necessarily stupid to have half as many folders at the level above.

Chris

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Fred Lindberg]

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:02:37 -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote:

>find this to be a useful way to move older stuff out of the way.  Certainly I 
>could have qmail and qmail.old instead of qmail and qmail/old, but I don't see 
>that it's necessarily stupid to have half as many folders at the level above.

Without folders and messages in the same folder, folders for folders
would be normal nodes, folders for messages would be leaves. A
tremendous gain for file system searches. No wading through piles of
files [with stat()] to see if there is a directory.

[this is more a [off-topic] qmail than a sqwebmail discussion, IMHO, so
I won't X-post].



-Sincerely, Fred
Fred Lindberg, Inf. Dis., WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Chris Garrigues]

> From:  "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:42:44 -0500
>
> Without folders and messages in the same folder, folders for folders
> would be normal nodes, folders for messages would be leaves. A
> tremendous gain for file system searches. No wading through piles of
> files [with stat()] to see if there is a directory.

Very valid point, but in designing an email system, which is more 
important: implementation efficiency or user intuition and flexibility?

I think as time goes by this scale tips further and further to the latter over 
the former.

Chris

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Fred Lindberg]

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:58:19 -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote:

>Very valid point, but in designing an email system, which is more 
>important: implementation efficiency or user intuition and flexibility?

I was, based on your post, following up on Russell's comment on file
system design.

IMHO, Sam's scheme makes most sense. The obvious way to a Maildir is
the .qmail file. With his scheme, there is no name collision and no
extra config/index file is necessary since all info is within the
Maildir pointed to by .qmail. The alternative would require a index or
an outer container that houses the base Maildir. The latter is not
consistent with the most common ~/Maildir/. As there is no standard,
Sam will create the de-facto standard with sqwebmail and his IMAPd
anyway.


-Sincerely, Fred
Fred Lindberg, Inf. Dis., WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Russell Nelson]

Chris Garrigues writes:
 > > From:  Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > > Date:  Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:12:09 -0400 (EDT)
 > >
 > > Randy Harmon writes:
 > >  > Is the concept of subfolders stupid?  IMHO: no.   Given: millions of
 > >  > Microsoft users are wrong.  But not on this point.
 > > 
 > > The concept of being able to store both mail AND folders in a
 > > folder is stupid.
 > 
 > Just as being able to store both plain files and directories in directories is 
 > stupid?

I suppose not, but it does rule out the possibility of using a
hierarchy of Mailboxes, unless you do something crufty like name the
Mailbox "Mailbox.mbox" and the subdirectory "Mailbox".  But then to be 
consistent, you should name all the other Mailboxes *.mbox.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

Fred Lindberg writes:

> Maildir pointed to by .qmail. The alternative would require a index or
> an outer container that houses the base Maildir. The latter is not
> consistent with the most common ~/Maildir/. As there is no standard,
> Sam will create the de-facto standard with sqwebmail and his IMAPd
> anyway.

F.Y.I:  ETA on the IMAP server should be about 3-4 weeks.  Pine looks good.
 Netscape Communicator looks good (although there are a couple of nasty
bugs in the Communicator's IMAP client that I don't feel like
accomodating).  I'll have to put it on hold for a week or two, while I take
care of other things, but I don't have much work left to do there.

-- 
Sam

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Jukka Zitting]

Hi all,

Fred Lindberg wrote:
> Without folders and messages in the same folder, folders for folders
> would be normal nodes, folders for messages would be leaves. A
> tremendous gain for file system searches. No wading through piles of
> files [with stat()] to see if there is a directory.

It would be, if the folders and messages were stored in the same
directory. But with maildir this is no problem as the messages are
stored in the "new" and "cur" subdirectories.

Another question is where (and how) the possible subfolders should be
stored.

 Jukka Zitting -
   The Midgard Project ---
 http://www.midgard-project.org/ ---

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Claus Färber]

Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> Then what you will have to ask yourself is whether you want all your
> folders shared by every one of your incoming maildirs.  I could consider
> the proposal of storing all folders in ../Mail, however what I don't like
> about this approach is that you're now in conflict with your mail apps who
> use $HOME/Mail to store traditional mailbox-file folders.

Which, when patched, will look for and store maildirs there, won't they?  
And if you do use maildirs, all of your MUAs should be able to handle  
maildirs or you won'tbe able to access your messages no matter where you  
store them.

If you think of maildirs as an alternative to the mailbox _file_ format,  
~/Mail/ is the obvious solution.

For folders that should contain both messages and subdirs, you could  
create a subdirectory named ".default" to hold messages that
look as if they were stored in the parent folder. This is compatible  
with MUAs that don't expect to see subfolders in maildirs (such as  
mutt).

If you then fake a link from ~/Mail/.default/ or ~/Mail/INBOX/ (depends  
on the protocol you're using/implementing) to $MAILDIR, you have a  
complete hierarchical namespace.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Russell Nelson]

 > Most MUAs are now using IMAP, so this is quickly becoming irrelevant.

IMAP is not appropriate for an ISP, because the ISP wants to get rid
of the email.

POP is not appropriate for a campus environment, because it's better
to control mail backups on a central server, and because IMAP works
with multiple clients (e.g. desktops and laptops, or work machines and 
home machines).

I don't see either protocol going away.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Claus Färber]

Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> And how would you propose handling a virtual mailbox farm, mailboxes that
> have no dedicated system userid assigned to them?
> It's not exactly obvious, is it?

Where would you put mailbox files then? Simply put your maildirs there.  
This is no less obvious if you consider maildirs a replacement for mbox  
files.

> Most MUAs are now using IMAP, so this is quickly becoming irrelevant.

Then simply do whatever your imapd does and don't worry about  
compatibility. On the other hand, maybe there are different IMAP  
servers, web gateways etc. that should use the same strucutre.

In other words: Why use an incompatible format if you can use one that  
is already there?

> No longer relevant.  Any MUA worth its salt is capable of using IMAP,
> right now, no matter how ugly IMAP really is.  So, all you have to do is
> standardize on an IMAP server,

Yes, and the best solution IMO is to use the "standard" that has already  
been set by user agents.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claus_F=E4rber?= writes:

> Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> > And how would you propose handling a virtual mailbox farm, mailboxes that
> > have no dedicated system userid assigned to them?
> > It's not exactly obvious, is it?
> 
> Where would you put mailbox files then? Simply put your maildirs there.

I really don't care where I would put the mailbox files.  I'm talking about
maildirs exclusively, and what makes the most amount of sense with
Maildirs. Putting maildirs somewhere where you normally keep mailbox files,
simply because of the deficiencies of the mailbox format, doesn't make
sense to me.

> > Most MUAs are now using IMAP, so this is quickly becoming irrelevant.
> 
> Then simply do whatever your imapd does and don't worry about  
> compatibility.

Since I am writing my imapd, this is my call.

>On the other hand, maybe there are different IMAP  
> servers, web gateways etc. that should use the same strucutre.
> 
> In other words: Why use an incompatible format if you can use one that  
> is already there?

There is no established custom for maintaining maildir-based folders.  As
far as I know, there are no IMAP servers who natively support maildirs. 
The only thing I'm aware of is a patch to UW-IMAP.  That does not a
standard make.


> > No longer relevant.  Any MUA worth its salt is capable of using IMAP,
> > right now, no matter how ugly IMAP really is.  So, all you have to do is
> > standardize on an IMAP server,
> 
> Yes, and the best solution IMO is to use the "standard" that has already  
> been set by user agents.

There is no such standard either.  Every MUA I've seen does this
differently.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Claus Färber]

Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
>  > Most MUAs are now using IMAP, so this is quickly becoming irrelevant.
>
> IMAP is not appropriate for an ISP, because the ISP wants to get rid
> of the email.

Depends on the ISP. Some ISPs consider that additional value and do even  
provide Webmail -- or mutt over ssh. ;-)

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Sam]

=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claus_F=E4rber?= writes:

> Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> >  > Most MUAs are now using IMAP, so this is quickly becoming irrelevant.
> >
> > IMAP is not appropriate for an ISP, because the ISP wants to get rid
> > of the email.
> 
> Depends on the ISP. Some ISPs consider that additional value and do even  
> provide Webmail -- or mutt over ssh. ;-)

I think that most ISPs are reluctant to offer IMAP because UW-IMAP server
is such a bloated pig.  I know for a fact that that's why at least one
major national ISP claimed was the major reason they declined to offer it.

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Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Tim Tsai]

> I think that most ISPs are reluctant to offer IMAP because UW-IMAP server
> is such a bloated pig.  I know for a fact that that's why at least one
> major national ISP claimed was the major reason they declined to offer it.

  There has also been a history of security problems with UW IMAP.  "bloat"
I can live with, root security exploits I can not.

  I haven't seen any reports of UW IMAP exploits for awhile though.

  Tim

Re: Sqwebmail and IMAP

[Russell Nelson]

Sam writes:
 > I think that most ISPs are reluctant to offer IMAP because UW-IMAP server
 > is such a bloated pig.

In my experience, the IMAP protocol is the bloated pig.

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Feature request for sqWebMail

[Kaare Rasmussen]

Two things I miss:

1. In Preferences: "Masquerade as". I call myself [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
sqWebMail tells the world that I'm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Causing problems
with mailing lists.

2. Sort by incoming order. A lot of people have their clock set wrong :-(

vpopmail, qmailadmin, sqwebmail : documentation

[Julien Marguet]

I search a good documentation on vpopmail, qmailadmin and
sqwebmail.
I'm currently creating a mail server for an hospital in
France.
Qmail, Maildir and IMAP = are operating.
I would like to manage the server and I'd like to make an
interface for the client --> that's why I'd use theise
tools.

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sqwebmail with local accounts

[John Stile]

How do I use the web interface for accessing my real domain's user
accounts?
Virtual domains have no problems accessing mail, but this is so cool I
want to do it for my real accounts too.
Do I create a virtual domain, and add links to the home dir's of each
real unix account?
I tried to find it my self, and failed.  Just point me to the right doc.

The environment:
dns, qmail, checkpassword, deamontolls, vpopmail, sqwebmail, ezmlm,
autorespond, qmailadmin
using maildir, qmail-pop3d, qmail-smtpd

Thank you.

Sqwebmail virtual server patch

[davi]

Ops, wrong subject...

Hi guys,

I've done a simple patch to sqwebmail so users in virtual domains
doesn't need to type their complete email address for login.
The patch suppose access webmail with the URL http://webmail.domain.com

Here users we're used to http://www.domain.com/webmail so I also did a very
simple CGI to redirect users to webmail.domain.com
I'm sending them attached, sorry for that, but just some bytes.
Hope it's usefull for someone.

[]s
Davi

 sqwebmail-1.03_at_domain.patch
 redirect.cgi

Re: Sqwebmail password problems

[Robin S. Socha]

"Roberto Samarone Araujo \(RSA\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are there any way to keep the user webmail password up date from the
> password file of the system ??

Which authentication scheme are you using, anyway?

> Sorry to this question about sqwebmail.

sqwebmail has its own mailing list.
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Re: Pine/qmail/sqwebmail

[Robin S. Socha]

* mrorange  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can I use Pine with qmail/sqwebmail? 

Yes/no.

> Apparently sqwebmail is dependent upon a maildir directory format and
> when I run Pine it sets up a regular mail directory (/var/mail/spool?)...

Do you have the slightest clue what you're talking about?

> Is there a config I'm missing somewhere?

Somewhere between your ears, yes. Read before you write.
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SV: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail

[Wilson, Frank]

You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail, since
SQWebmail is made for vpopmail :)

-fjw


-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 5. februar 2001 16:02
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail


hi,

must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work together?

does qmail works with just qmailadmin, autoresponder,
ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
installed?

how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
typing in the username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rgds,
yee

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RE: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail

[Hubbard, David]

I'm not sure where you got that idea, sqwebmail is
developed with the Courier mail server and it
happens to support the vpopmail vchkpw authentication
program for those of us using vpopmail, then it just
reads Maildir's.  Did you mean qmailadmin maybe?
That is only used for vpopmail.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail


You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail, since
SQWebmail is made for vpopmail :)

-fjw


-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 5. februar 2001 16:02
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail


hi,

must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work together?

does qmail works with just qmailadmin, autoresponder,
ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
installed?

how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
typing in the username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rgds,
yee

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Re: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail

[Henning Brauer]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:59:06AM -0500, Hubbard, David wrote:
> I'm not sure where you got that idea, sqwebmail is
> developed with the Courier mail server and it
> happens to support the vpopmail vchkpw authentication
> program for those of us using vpopmail, then it just
> reads Maildir's.  Did you mean qmailadmin maybe?
> That is only used for vpopmail.

sqwebmail works nice without the other stuff. I have it running with
qmail-ldap.

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RE: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail

[Yee Siew Chin]

ok...
must qmailadmin works with vpopmail?

rgds,
yee

--- "Hubbard, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I'm not sure where you got that idea, sqwebmail is
> developed with the Courier mail server and it
> happens to support the vpopmail vchkpw
> authentication
> program for those of us using vpopmail, then it just
> reads Maildir's.  Did you mean qmailadmin maybe?
> That is only used for vpopmail.
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wilson, Frank
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SV: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail
> 
> 
> You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail, since
> SQWebmail is made for vpopmail :)
> 
> -fjw
> 
> 
> -Opprinnelig melding-
> Fra: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sendt: 5. februar 2001 16:02
> Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Emne: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work
> together?
> 
> does qmail works with just qmailadmin,
> autoresponder,
> ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
> installed?
> 
> how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
> typing in the username instead of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> rgds,
> yee
> 
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