[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
Incredible. Can you describe how the ride goes? Do you stop every 2 hours to stretch? What type of physical discomfort do you endure-- other than cardiovascular suffering? Neck? Shoulders? Hands? Feet? Butt? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
What? Grant built a carbon bike? After all that he's said and written about them, I hope that's not true. On Apr 22, 12:11 am, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, based on very well placed sources: The frame in question is the full carbon riv that was NOT at the SD bike show. The original buyer requested that it had clearance for no more than 20mm tires, but that was mistakenly transcribed as 20mm with fenders. The final product just had a touch too much space between the 18mm tires that the customer preferred and the frame, destroying the balance between fat frame tubes and very tiny tires with subliminal clearance. It will probably be repainted as PROTOORBEA and sold on Ebay. Tarik On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. We are of a like mind. I need another bike like I need another hole in my head. Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling. On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. Forgot about that! Well, as it happens I have an unused set of Motolites lying around somewhere. Not as pretty, but will do the job. Of course, assuming Tarik is not joking, my dream is dead nonetheless! On Apr 21, 10:56 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. We are of a like mind. I need another bike like I need another hole in my head. Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling. On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
Okay, just as kind of a follow-up... I've opened up the notchy tick-ety tick-ety XT hub on my current wheel. It appears to be missing a bearing. A local rider friend says that's not uncommon in general with bike hubs. He was not speaking of any particular brand or model. I don't have any real experience with opening bike hubs, so I'm basing the notion that there's a missing bearing on two things: (1) the cup obviously has enough room for another bearing to fit nicely without any issues whatsoever, even when sinking the bearings into a bed of grease. Maybe it's not technically a cup; I've only a vague notion of the terminology. But anyway... And (2) the Shimano technical document on-line for the Deore XT FH M770 hub (which I'm working with here) has a picture that appears to have 13 bearings on the drive side and 11 on the non-drive side. My hub had 11 on the non-drive side (they're in a retainer of some kind) but only had 12 on the drive side. One would think one could rely on the text of such a document and not actually have to look at a diagram. But the text said that the hub uses 20 3/16 bearings. Since mine came with 23 (and I believe is supposed to have 24), I take the text with a grain of salt. I'm just glad the text appears to have the bearing size right (3/16). Moral is: maybe this wheel is okay. And maybe it'll stay okay. Time'll tell. Still contemplating a Phil-hubbed wheel at some point, though. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Apr 21, 12:24 am, Bruce Curry currybru...@gmail.com wrote: I see your 250lbs and raise you almost 20. When I first got my current bike add another 30. I started with a Rambouillet with older 105 hubs on 32 spoke Mavic M3's which were built for the 200lb PO who rode 27mm specialized tires. The rear rim lasted probably 3 months. Solution: keep the 105/32 rear hub, rebuild w/Mavic a317's (?) double butted rims w/DT 14guage spokes and brass nipples that have some loctite-type glue substance which keeps them solidly in place. I put 33.33mm Jack Brown tires @80 psi which are about as light as Grant recommends at my weight. I expect about 1500 miles off the rear JB, about 3k on the front. They have a Kevlar version if you need additional puncture protection. Front rim is the original Mavic M3 w/ the 33.33 JB @70 psi. I have about 2500 miles on these rims without any issues but would move to a Mavic 717 36 spoke on 105's if I did. Last point: go to your local wheel builder to get these done. You will get free trueing as well as his advice. Cost is probably $60 for the hub, $45 for the rim, $1/spoke and $50 for the build. Last thought. At 100miles/wk I was losing 10lbs/month no matter what I ate. Average ride was 25 - 40miles solo @17-17.5mph. Didn't take long. Bottom line: I think w/a decent hub and the right rim fabbed by a good builder and you will have more than you need for less than $200. Good luck. Bruce On Apr 19, 10:02 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all. I seek counsel. I weigh about 250 lbs. I often carry 10-15 lbs on a rear rack. I ride a Trek hybrid, sitting bolt-upright. (By the way, this Trek is about as Riv'd up as any Trek could be. Actual Riv relevance: Later this year I'll also be riding a Hillborne and any counsel I receive will apply to it for sure; maybe/maybe-not for the Trek. Also, the riding I do is very much non-clubby, non-race-y, and non-trivial in distance; this seems to match up with Riv philosophy and thus seems appropriate for this group.) I use 700x35 tires on 32- or 36-spoke wheels at about 60 psi. I ride 70-100 miles/week 12 months a year (I bet that'll rise when I get the Hillborne), over half on limestone trail. I'm actually pretty easy on the bike in general, avoiding obstacles/rough path where practical, lifting the wheel and slowing down when I don't avoid the hazard. My problem is that I haven't gotten more than 1000 miles on any rear wheel without complete failure (cracked hub, bent axle) or the need for repair (hub overhaul, multiple spoke breakage, rim *way* out-of- true-or-round). The wheels I've used include some cheapies and some good ones. Some were better to use than others. But all were okay to use (until they failed :( ). More wheel details later. My preliminary question is: should I simply expect to have these problems every thousand (or two) miles? That is, will I likely have problems like these at that rate no matter *what* wheel I have? If so, then my plan will likely be to go for a value proposition instead of a reliability one. That is, I'll settle with a cheap wheel, always having a backup, knowing that I'll have to replace/repair/adjust more often than I'd like. That'd be okay, I guess... though it seems wrong in some profound way; after all, I've literally never *had* to replace any of my non-Pasela tires. I've put at least 3000 miles on my most recent set and still *could* use the
Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 22:17 -0700, doug peterson wrote: Steve's got a good idea with the 20 lbs of rocks. Everyone is surprised at how their high performance road bike changes character when it's required to carry its own weight in payload. Then think about doubling that. That's touring. 20 lb of gear is also touring -- and believe me, it's a lot more fun hauling 20 lb of gear up a mountain than 40 lb! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Freewheel questions
Does anyone know if the spacing of the cogs on a 6-speed or 7-speed freewheel is exactly the same as the spacing of the cogs on an 8-speed cassette? Specifically I'm talking about the freewheels RBW sells. But if it isn't true for those, is it true for any particular brand or model? And if so, how can I get those freehweels? Sheldon's web-site indicates a chart with spacing for various freewheels and cassettes, but doesn't name any freewheel brands/models that I know how to get today. And what it does say indicates that the spacing is somewhat different, as far as I can tell. I'm contemplating a Phil-hubbed wheel for my later-this-summer Hillborne. And I like the idea of the relative cheapness of the freewheel version of the hub, of course. But more importantly I like the idea of a nearly dishless wheel. I think I'll be using non-O/C rims on this wheel if I do this; the strongest rims apparently don't come in O/C versions (perhaps because that makes them somewhat weaker?) so the lower dish possible with a freewheel arrangement would be great. It may overwhelm my desire for having only one style of hub in the household. I'm sure I'd be happy with 7-speeds as opposed to 8. I'd probably be fine with 6 speeds. BUT... I really really really don't want to compromise my 8-speed indexing ability. My inexpensive shifters are the best things about my current Trek hybrid. I've gotten spoiled with virtually flawless shifting. I realize that I'll have one or more dead clicks in my shifting if I move to a non-8-speed set-up; that's okay.) If it's close but not exactly the same spacing, I think I'll stick with the cassette arrangement and hope differing spoke tensions don't compromise the wheel too much. If it is practical to *make* the spacing the same, I'd consider that. And... I should ask generally... are there significant differences in feel of riding using a freewheel versus a cassette? That is, does one make for a more free-spinning wheel than the other? I won't have a chance to ride one first and don't want to make a significant move like this without a small understanding of what I'm giving up or gaining. Thanks for any info you have or can point me to. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Freewheel questions
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 05:08 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: And... I should ask generally... are there significant differences in feel of riding using a freewheel versus a cassette? That is, does one make for a more free-spinning wheel than the other? I won't have a chance to ride one first and don't want to make a significant move like this without a small understanding of what I'm giving up or gaining. The only times you're going to notice the difference between a freewheel and a cassette are when you're trying to remove it (it can sometimes be a real challenge getting a freewheel off!) or when the axle bends (happens a lot more easily on a freewheel hub than a cassette, due to the location of the outer bearing). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Not to worry, R. Tarik is pulling your leg. John at RBW On Apr 21, 11:31 pm, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: What? Grant built a carbon bike? After all that he's said and written about them, I hope that's not true. On Apr 22, 12:11 am, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, based on very well placed sources: The frame in question is the full carbon riv that was NOT at the SD bike show. The original buyer requested that it had clearance for no more than 20mm tires, but that was mistakenly transcribed as 20mm with fenders. The final product just had a touch too much space between the 18mm tires that the customer preferred and the frame, destroying the balance between fat frame tubes and very tiny tires with subliminal clearance. It will probably be repainted as PROTOORBEA and sold on Ebay. Tarik On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. We are of a like mind. I need another bike like I need another hole in my head. Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling. On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Freewheel questions
If I remember the history... The 6 speed spacing was thought of as standard, although it was narrower than the 5 speed it replace. When 7 speed came out it was narrow, and is identical to nine speed. I use the same chains today on my wife's 7 speed freewheel as I do on my 9 speed cassette. I think 8 speed was introduced when stays went from 126 to 130 mm although I'm not sure of the spacing, I would expect it is closer to the 6 speed, and then the 9 speed cassette quickly replaced it with the narrower chains again. I would think an experienced mechanic at your LBS could give you a definitive answer. I have a White Cassette Hub, which I am quite happy with, that is priced about the same as the PW freewheel version. Some people find these noisy, but I have discovered that it is only an issue in the closed space of a shop, not outdoors on the road. Michael On Apr 22, 8:08 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know if the spacing of the cogs on a 6-speed or 7-speed freewheel is exactly the same as the spacing of the cogs on an 8-speed cassette? Specifically I'm talking about the freewheels RBW sells. But if it isn't true for those, is it true for any particular brand or model? And if so, how can I get those freehweels? Sheldon's web-site indicates a chart with spacing for various freewheels and cassettes, but doesn't name any freewheel brands/models that I know how to get today. And what it does say indicates that the spacing is somewhat different, as far as I can tell. I'm contemplating a Phil-hubbed wheel for my later-this-summer Hillborne. And I like the idea of the relative cheapness of the freewheel version of the hub, of course. But more importantly I like the idea of a nearly dishless wheel. I think I'll be using non-O/C rims on this wheel if I do this; the strongest rims apparently don't come in O/C versions (perhaps because that makes them somewhat weaker?) so the lower dish possible with a freewheel arrangement would be great. It may overwhelm my desire for having only one style of hub in the household. I'm sure I'd be happy with 7-speeds as opposed to 8. I'd probably be fine with 6 speeds. BUT... I really really really don't want to compromise my 8-speed indexing ability. My inexpensive shifters are the best things about my current Trek hybrid. I've gotten spoiled with virtually flawless shifting. I realize that I'll have one or more dead clicks in my shifting if I move to a non-8-speed set-up; that's okay.) If it's close but not exactly the same spacing, I think I'll stick with the cassette arrangement and hope differing spoke tensions don't compromise the wheel too much. If it is practical to *make* the spacing the same, I'd consider that. And... I should ask generally... are there significant differences in feel of riding using a freewheel versus a cassette? That is, does one make for a more free-spinning wheel than the other? I won't have a chance to ride one first and don't want to make a significant move like this without a small understanding of what I'm giving up or gaining. Thanks for any info you have or can point me to. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
That's a beauty frame--I too wonder what the detail was that went wrong. I think personally that it's pretty uncool to take up 30 hours of Grant's time, convince him to work outside his comfort zone then bail on it and leave him hanging over some detail. Grant, if you're reading this, I don't think you'd have much trouble finding a buyer for it just as it sits. I'm tempted myself and I need another fixie like I need, well, another fixie. B-) Please consider posting specs and a price you're comfortable with here or on the Riv page and see if you get any takers before you go to the additional trouble and expense of stripping and refinishing it... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:25 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom? I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/ Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays. I guess that is about one standard deviation away from a typical Rivendell. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever it it, it certainly raises my curiosity level. I think cosmetic details are important because I find bicycles beautiful, functional art. But, I don't think that anything outside of a horrible color would be cosmetic enough to prevent me from interest in a bicycle. Oh, and one of my very favorite forms of riding is fixed gear off road riding. It's the ultimate under-bike experience. So, if this mystery bike is a fixed gear off roader, I'm really interested. On Apr 20, 7:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron +1 I can't help but think this must have been a very influential customer! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR]. Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box. Some nice parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and unopened. Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims, laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King cassette hub. Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the whole 650B thang. **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot** -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
Eric, great time on the 400k. Good job! The green Rivendell in the photos, is that yours? Looks like you rode with a Camel Back. Man, I don't think I could take 17hrs of that weird sloshing sound but then again, I bet you had no issues with hydration. Our 400k is 05/01. I'm excited and dreading it. It's my least favorite distance in an SR series and even harder than a 600k. Looking forward to pictures from your 600k. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
Eric, great time on the 400k. Good job! The green Rivendell in the photos, is that yours? Looks like you rode with a Camel Back. Man, I don't think I could take 17hrs of that weird sloshing sound but then again, I bet you had no issues with hydration. Our 400k is 05/01. I'm excited and dreading it. It's my least favorite distance in an SR series and even harder than a 600k. Looking forward to pictures from your 600k. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
You'd probably enjoy the reviews and specs at http://mtbtires.com/site2/ Product of another tire-obsessed trail rider! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of William Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38? Those Furious Freds look fun. I love trying out tires. Those would be a kick to try. $170 for a pair is a pretty expensive experiment, though. I'd almost pray that I don't like them. On Apr 21, 10:06 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Well, yes, I probably should just give up, buy some Hetres and a 650B bike to go with them. :) Another (probably ridiculous) option: Schwalbe Furious Freds, 50-622 ETRTO, 335g (!). Tiny knobs, not much rubber, high thread count casing. Supposedly the fastest mtb tire ever. Anyone try it for mixed road/off road? Probably won't last very long...http://www.schwalbetires.com/furious_fred Gernot On Apr 21, 10:38 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 21, 3:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never destroyed a tire, Oh Gernot, you are so screwed. Apparently you haven't heard the old saying, Man plans and plans and the tire gods just laugh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel questions
I have been using a 7 spd Phil hub with an IRD freewheel for some time, and like the other poster, enjoy the good shifting and silence. The trick to getting a freewheel on and off is to first lubricate its threads and those of the hub liberally. Take it off once a year or so with a bench vice and re-grease. Very easy. On Apr 22, 5:08 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know if the spacing of the cogs on a 6-speed or 7-speed freewheel is exactly the same as the spacing of the cogs on an 8-speed cassette? Specifically I'm talking about the freewheels RBW sells. But if it isn't true for those, is it true for any particular brand or model? And if so, how can I get those freehweels? Sheldon's web-site indicates a chart with spacing for various freewheels and cassettes, but doesn't name any freewheel brands/models that I know how to get today. And what it does say indicates that the spacing is somewhat different, as far as I can tell. I'm contemplating a Phil-hubbed wheel for my later-this-summer Hillborne. And I like the idea of the relative cheapness of the freewheel version of the hub, of course. But more importantly I like the idea of a nearly dishless wheel. I think I'll be using non-O/C rims on this wheel if I do this; the strongest rims apparently don't come in O/C versions (perhaps because that makes them somewhat weaker?) so the lower dish possible with a freewheel arrangement would be great. It may overwhelm my desire for having only one style of hub in the household. I'm sure I'd be happy with 7-speeds as opposed to 8. I'd probably be fine with 6 speeds. BUT... I really really really don't want to compromise my 8-speed indexing ability. My inexpensive shifters are the best things about my current Trek hybrid. I've gotten spoiled with virtually flawless shifting. I realize that I'll have one or more dead clicks in my shifting if I move to a non-8-speed set-up; that's okay.) If it's close but not exactly the same spacing, I think I'll stick with the cassette arrangement and hope differing spoke tensions don't compromise the wheel too much. If it is practical to *make* the spacing the same, I'd consider that. And... I should ask generally... are there significant differences in feel of riding using a freewheel versus a cassette? That is, does one make for a more free-spinning wheel than the other? I won't have a chance to ride one first and don't want to make a significant move like this without a small understanding of what I'm giving up or gaining. Thanks for any info you have or can point me to. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
Yea... Shiggy's site... not much in way of fat road tires but there are some cross tires mixed in. And good data on 29er type tires for the Bombadil riders. Wallbike has some tire data at their site as well http://wallbike.com/blog/2008/08/17/schwalbe-tire-inflated-sizes/ Personally I think I'm gunna buy the Marathon racers in a 700 x 38. ~Mike~ On Apr 22, 7:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: You'd probably enjoy the reviews and specs athttp://mtbtires.com/site2/ Product of another tire-obsessed trail rider! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of William Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:43 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38? Those Furious Freds look fun. I love trying out tires. Those would be a kick to try. $170 for a pair is a pretty expensive experiment, though. I'd almost pray that I don't like them. On Apr 21, 10:06 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Well, yes, I probably should just give up, buy some Hetres and a 650B bike to go with them. :) Another (probably ridiculous) option: Schwalbe Furious Freds, 50-622 ETRTO, 335g (!). Tiny knobs, not much rubber, high thread count casing. Supposedly the fastest mtb tire ever. Anyone try it for mixed road/off road? Probably won't last very long...http://www.schwalbetires.com/furious_fred Gernot On Apr 21, 10:38 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 21, 3:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never destroyed a tire, Oh Gernot, you are so screwed. Apparently you haven't heard the old saying, Man plans and plans and the tire gods just laugh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
On Apr 22, 7:45 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, great time on the 400k. Good job! The green Rivendell in the photos, is that yours? Looks like you rode with a Camel Back. Man, I don't think I could take 17hrs of that weird sloshing sound but then again, I bet you had no issues with hydration. Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Camel Back. After 17 hours, do the straps feel like they are cutting into your skin? And what is the Randonneur's creed as far as helping another rider with a flat? It looks like you guys made poor Ealine throw her bike down in the gravel while she fixed her flat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4531814840/in/set-72157623758002717/ You guys have nice bikes, can't you hold a fellow randonneur's bike so it doesn't get damaged while they work on the wheel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
I think you need to know more about 'Me.' If you had followed his blog of a few years ago, you would know he does not consume meat, uses the bike as his primary form of transit, and, importantly, is very involved in motivational efforts concerning weight loss, fitness, cycling, etc. It is not uncommon for people who live public lives to forget details of their private lives. On Apr 22, 8:42 am, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR]. Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box. Some nice parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and unopened. Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims, laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King cassette hub. Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the whole 650B thang. **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot** -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Yes. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:42 AM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: So, did I miss the joke or something? On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR]. Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box. Some nice parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and unopened. Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims, laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King cassette hub. Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the whole 650B thang. **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot** -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel questions
The Phil hubs look great but has anyone used the Suzue Classica hubs? They only come in a 126 and 130mm spacing for the rear. They certainly look nice too. I was looking into building some new wheels for my RB-1. ~Mike~ On Apr 22, 7:35 am, rswat...@me.com wrote: In my experience, 6,7, and 8 speed spacing is, if not exactly the same, close enough. I have a bike with 8s indexed shifters that I use with both 7 and 8 speed wheels. I've also put 7 speed wheels on 6 speed bikes and have been able to use the original index shifters. These have all been Shimano shifters, but with a mix of Shimano and Suntour cassettes and freewheels. It seems that most Shimano 6-7 shifters have an extra click that'll let you squeeze in one extra cog. Your mileage may vary, however. Ryan On Apr 22, 2010, at 6:08 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know if the spacing of the cogs on a 6-speed or 7-speed freewheel is exactly the same as the spacing of the cogs on an 8-speed cassette? Specifically I'm talking about the freewheels RBW sells. But if it isn't true for those, is it true for any particular brand or model? And if so, how can I get those freehweels? Sheldon's web-site indicates a chart with spacing for various freewheels and cassettes, but doesn't name any freewheel brands/models that I know how to get today. And what it does say indicates that the spacing is somewhat different, as far as I can tell. I'm contemplating a Phil-hubbed wheel for my later-this-summer Hillborne. And I like the idea of the relative cheapness of the freewheel version of the hub, of course. But more importantly I like the idea of a nearly dishless wheel. I think I'll be using non-O/C rims on this wheel if I do this; the strongest rims apparently don't come in O/C versions (perhaps because that makes them somewhat weaker?) so the lower dish possible with a freewheel arrangement would be great. It may overwhelm my desire for having only one style of hub in the household. I'm sure I'd be happy with 7-speeds as opposed to 8. I'd probably be fine with 6 speeds. BUT... I really really really don't want to compromise my 8-speed indexing ability. My inexpensive shifters are the best things about my current Trek hybrid. I've gotten spoiled with virtually flawless shifting. I realize that I'll have one or more dead clicks in my shifting if I move to a non-8-speed set-up; that's okay.) If it's close but not exactly the same spacing, I think I'll stick with the cassette arrangement and hope differing spoke tensions don't compromise the wheel too much. If it is practical to *make* the spacing the same, I'd consider that. And... I should ask generally... are there significant differences in feel of riding using a freewheel versus a cassette? That is, does one make for a more free-spinning wheel than the other? I won't have a chance to ride one first and don't want to make a significant move like this without a small understanding of what I'm giving up or gaining. Thanks for any info you have or can point me to. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I Saw U in Washougal
On the way to a site visit with a prospective client, having lunch at Papa's Ice Cream 1pm, checking the RBW list on my iPhone and someone rides by on an Atlantis Rivendell on the brain these days Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel questions
There's no difference in the spacing of of a 5/6/7sp IRD freewheel and a 8sp cassette of any make. Standard Shimano spacing for all. If you use a Suntour FW spacing varies . Sachs FW's use Shimano compatible spacing also... as does Sunrace. FW and cassette ride the same. I prefer Phil Wood FW hubs because they are simple and durable. Axles are never an issue with PW hubs. I prefer FW hubs because I can fully service them myself, if a bearing or FW body ever went bad, I have spares. With a Cassette, you may have to send it to the manufacturer(in the case of PW,White,CK,etc.) . which means dismantling the wheel. . . which if you pay top dollar to have a perfect wheel, you don't go dismantling them. . .Ever. I also prefer 7sp above all because I friction shift, and above 7speeds I found it tedious and I gained nothing useful in gears. Don't worry about the OCR thing, I think it's a bit over rated and convoluted. A 7sp PW hub and a standard rim (like a Mavic A719) will make for a plenty durable wheel. I've had mine for many years built by a Joe Young and have never had to touch them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
on 4/22/10 7:14 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: And what is the Randonneur's creed as far as helping another rider with a flat? It looks like you guys made poor Ealine throw her bike down in the gravel while she fixed her flat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4531814840/in/set-72157623758002717/ You guys have nice bikes, can't you hold a fellow randonneur's bike so it doesn't get damaged while they work on the wheel? from rusa.org: Article 6 Each rider must be self sufficient. No personal follow cars or support of any kind are permitted on the course. Personal support is only allowed at checkpoints. Any violation of this requirement will result in immediate disqualification. Laying a bike on its side really shouldn't damage it. Most of the time on longer rides, I'll use another's mechanical or natural break as a time to check my rig, refuel, get food or layers out and make ready for the next section. If you are interested in brevets, most clubs usually put on Populaires during the summer, so you get familiar with the format and meet the riders. I will say that the randonneurs I've ridden with are some of the best folks I've been lucky to meet. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Nice find, Scott--beats the spiders and drier lint I usually find in my basement... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Me Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:33 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much Oddly, I don't have that many by most standards... I have my Bob Brown custom, a Big Dummy and a Pugsley. And, of course, as of last night, down in my basement, an unearthed Rivendell Bleriot. To the fella that asked: sure, I can take some fotos as I build her up. That would be fun! To the other fella in PDX... yes indeedy, love to go for a ride! -Scott On Apr 21, 11:26 am, Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, I think you may have found the --I thought un-attainable-- point at which you have too many bikes. I never thought I would say that to anyone. Ethan On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR]. Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box. Some nice parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and unopened. Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims, laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King cassette hub. Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the whole 650B thang. **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot** -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
I can understand rules about support cars, but not being allowed to help your fellow riders is pretty weak. I'm not sure I get the point of randonneuring. Sounds like they take a nice ride and spoil it with a bunch of arbitrary rules and limits. I'm doing a 300K Brevet Saturday :-D Ryan On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:30 AM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/22/10 7:14 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: And what is the Randonneur's creed as far as helping another rider with a flat? It looks like you guys made poor Ealine throw her bike down in the gravel while she fixed her flat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4531814840/in/set-72157623758002717/ You guys have nice bikes, can't you hold a fellow randonneur's bike so it doesn't get damaged while they work on the wheel? from rusa.org: Article 6 Each rider must be self sufficient. No personal follow cars or support of any kind are permitted on the course. Personal support is only allowed at checkpoints. Any violation of this requirement will result in immediate disqualification. Laying a bike on its side really shouldn't damage it. Most of the time on longer rides, I'll use another's mechanical or natural break as a time to check my rig, refuel, get food or layers out and make ready for the next section. If you are interested in brevets, most clubs usually put on Populaires during the summer, so you get familiar with the format and meet the riders. I will say that the randonneurs I've ridden with are some of the best folks I've been lucky to meet. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt - Now available http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Just a reminder that it is just fine to disagree with anyone on this list, but it is not OK to make personal comments directed at them, or their perceived perspective towards cycling, etc. - Jim / Getting All List Admin-y, Removing Posts Follow Up Comments -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. Interesting, sounds like whoever the customer was they were trying to end up with a Rivendell version of the Surly Instigator. Odd to have an $800 paint job on a bike obviously built for rugged riding. I understand not wanting to redo a Joe Bell paint job to go back and add the gusset, but it certainly seems like the bike would work well for someone as-is. I think that Pacenti crown works really well on the bike, even if it's not a Riv piece. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
I would second this suggestion for heavier riders like myself (190 lbs.), but you might not need them if you're not concerned about durability. I was also trying to go wider than the JBs, and am very happy now with the Marathons. To me the tire is just as supple, but I also run them at a lower pressure than the JBs and again am a heavier rider. I have found that suppleness depends a lot on finding the pressure sweet spot of any given tire first before judging - I think this is the range where the tires are most forgiving without being slow and mushy. For me the Marathons have a pretty big sweet spot. On Apr 20, 9:37 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: You could just go with the basic wire bead Marathon that Riv sells: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068 They're not supple but they're not that bad, especially when you consider the price. The model Riv sells measures 41 so it should fit on the Hillborne. They're nice off road, durable and confidence inspiring. mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? I guess we're all entitled to draw our own conclusions and form our own opinions. But one thing is for sure, if you know anything about Scott C. (a.k.a. Large Fella on a Bike; really not so large these days), I don't think there's any way you could question how serious of a cyclist he is! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. On Apr 22, 10:49 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. Interesting, sounds like whoever the customer was they were trying to end up with a Rivendell version of the Surly Instigator. Odd to have an $800 paint job on a bike obviously built for rugged riding. I understand not wanting to redo a Joe Bell paint job to go back and add the gusset, but it certainly seems like the bike would work well for someone as-is. I think that Pacenti crown works really well on the bike, even if it's not a Riv piece. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:53 AM, wile dylanmcner...@yahoo.com wrote: I would second this suggestion for heavier riders like myself (190 lbs.), but you might not need them if you're not concerned about durability. I was also trying to go wider than the JBs, and am very happy now with the Marathons. To me the tire is just as supple, but I also run them at a lower pressure than the JBs and again am a heavier rider. I have found that suppleness depends a lot on finding the pressure sweet spot of any given tire first before judging - I think this is the range where the tires are most forgiving without being slow and mushy. For me the Marathons have a pretty big sweet spot. Yeah. I overinflated my 38mm Marathon Racers to begin with. After several weeks (months?) of neglecting to air them up, I accidentally found the sweet spot. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? I don't think there's any joke, nor is Scott trying to flaunt any idea of wealth. I know Scott only slightly, but i don't think he and his family are any more well off than most of us, and bikes are their main (only?) transportation, so it's certainly not out of line to have a bigger bike budget when you aren't spending money on a car. I haven't found a Bleriot in my basement, but i've certainly rediscovered misplaced valuable things in the basement or garage, and that's without two cross-country moves in the last few years. I spend relatively little on bikes, but i've certainly accumulated enough decent parts over the years to build 2 complete bikes from the pile of stuff in my garage, so maybe i'm not that shocked by this. It's a nice find, and even Riv-related - relax! -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I Saw U in Washougal
Ha, a sort of Rivendell missed connections! I'll play, too: (1) Last week, on the BART heading from the East Bay to San Francisco, a pink-yet-manly Rivendell Custom, me flirting -- with the bike. (2) Every few weeks on Telegraph Ave outside the yoga studio, a very classy Hilsen with albatross bars, me humbled -- yet trying to own my 1983 Nishiki. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
In case anyone finds it useful, I thought I'd add the following information about the Racers from Peter White's page on Schwalbe tires: --- Like the Big Apple, the Marathon Racer has very shallow grooves in the tread for low rolling resistance. It's effectively a slick, and as such will have maximum grip with low rolling resistance on all surfaces except wet dirt. Grooved tread on pavement does nothing to improve traction in the rain, unlike on a automobile tire with a rectangular contact patch. The oval contact patch of a bicycle tire forces water to the sides of the tire, eliminating hydroplaning. Water doesn't build up in front of the tire. Bicycle tire manufacturers put tiny treads on their high performance tires only to reassure consumers who may not understand the way bicycle tires function in the rain. --- http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schwalbe.asp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Apr 22, 5:43 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Not to worry, R. Tarik is pulling your leg. John at RBW Actually, John is WRONG I have proof: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/nanodrive/rivendell-sauron.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Apr 22, 10:11 am, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 22, 5:43 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Not to worry, R. Tarik is pulling your leg. John at RBW Actually, John is WRONG I have proof: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/nanodrive/rivendell-sauron.jpg Forgot this one too: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/pages/13.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Another thing to keep in mind if you have your eye on that crank. Pay very close attention to how the Q-factor of the crankset goes with the chainstay width of the frame you are setting up. I don't know what bike you are building, but I will report that my 155mm Q-factor Ritchey (113mm spindle) barely fit on a Bombadil. There is no hope that a 130-something crankset would fit without a massively long spindle, which would change it into a 155mm Q-factor crankset and would foul up your chainline and front shifting. That 46/30 Gran Cru would be sweet on an old school Rando/Brevet bike (basically a road bike). No chance would that crankset work on a Bomba/Hunqa. Even a Hillborne/Hilsen would be questionable. Roadeo should work. On Apr 21, 9:33 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 21, 5:41 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: ...and the 46/30 is predicted to be $175, not $125. Still a bargain Whoops. That's the page I was looking at. Somehow I read $125 (..and I did that several times!). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
I've never had trouble with the straps. The new Camelbak I was using last Saturday has wider straps with light padding, so I think it will work even better than the older model with unpadded straps. On hot days, having a bladder full of cold water on my back really helps cool me down. When it's hot, I start packing the bladder with mostly ice an a little water so I have an continuous supply of ice water. That being said, some people just don't like having anything on their back. As with everything else, YMMV. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:14 AM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 22, 7:45 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, great time on the 400k. Good job! The green Rivendell in the photos, is that yours? Looks like you rode with a Camel Back. Man, I don't think I could take 17hrs of that weird sloshing sound but then again, I bet you had no issues with hydration. Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Camel Back. After 17 hours, do the straps feel like they are cutting into your skin? And what is the Randonneur's creed as far as helping another rider with a flat? It looks like you guys made poor Ealine throw her bike down in the gravel while she fixed her flat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4531814840/in/set-72157623758002717/ You guys have nice bikes, can't you hold a fellow randonneur's bike so it doesn't get damaged while they work on the wheel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I agree with Joel on the sizing estimate. Unfortunately, I fall within that range, and I'm building up another frame intended for a similar purpose as this one. So this beautiful frame is quite distracting and annoying. I will attempt to console myself that my base for such a build is the humble (and much less expensive) VO Polyvalent. Does anyone know what size wheels the Rivendell custom is designed around? Wait, don't tell me. On Apr 22, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. On Apr 22, 10:49 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. Interesting, sounds like whoever the customer was they were trying to end up with a Rivendell version of the Surly Instigator. Odd to have an $800 paint job on a bike obviously built for rugged riding. I understand not wanting to redo a Joe Bell paint job to go back and add the gusset, but it certainly seems like the bike would work well for someone as-is. I think that Pacenti crown works really well on the bike, even if it's not a Riv piece. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
I want to put together a Portland-Vancouver area Rivendellesque ride. Maybe do a loop out to Kelly Point Park (bring a sack lunch) and then promenade through downtown St. Johns, then back over to Overlook park or something like that. Anyone with better or more specific route ideas PLEASE speak up. Ideally, the route should be accessible by transit for folks coming from farther away. (I'm thinking N/NE Portland so that folks from The Couve can join in the fun.) Proposing Sunday, May 23, alternate date could be Sunday June 6. (Trying to avoid Sunday Parkways dates because I know some pdx-area folks on this list want to participate in those.) Suggest start time of Noon or noon-thirty, hang for a coupla hours and enjoy. Whatcha think? Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schmidt/BM Bulbs for Sale
Eric- Very interested in buying all the 3-watt bulbs you have, but I -need- them to be 3-watt and not 2.4's [don't run dual gen-lights nor a gen- powered taillight]. Any way you can check the base of the bulbs [whilst not touching the bulbs themselves, of course]? Thanks- -Scott On Apr 21, 2:31 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I've switched to LED lighting, and have a number of spare bulbs to fit schmidt E6 and BM Lumotec headlights that I no longer need. I'm not sure if these are the 2.4 or 3-watt versions (seehttp://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt-headlights.asp#bulbs). Peter White sells them for $4.50 to $5.50; I'll send them to you for $2.50 each including postage. Limited quantities--contact me offline if you're interested. --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I'd wager 650Bx58mm. Purely a guess. Esteban San Diego saw the bike in the flesh, Calif. On Apr 22, 10:35 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Joel on the sizing estimate. Unfortunately, I fall within that range, and I'm building up another frame intended for a similar purpose as this one. So this beautiful frame is quite distracting and annoying. I will attempt to console myself that my base for such a build is the humble (and much less expensive) VO Polyvalent. Does anyone know what size wheels the Rivendell custom is designed around? Wait, don't tell me. On Apr 22, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. On Apr 22, 10:49 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. Interesting, sounds like whoever the customer was they were trying to end up with a Rivendell version of the Surly Instigator. Odd to have an $800 paint job on a bike obviously built for rugged riding. I understand not wanting to redo a Joe Bell paint job to go back and add the gusset, but it certainly seems like the bike would work well for someone as-is. I think that Pacenti crown works really well on the bike, even if it's not a Riv piece. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
So you don't even get shoulder/neck aches after 17 hours riding? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
I would love this. It sounds perfect. I'm not a fast cyclist, but I trust Beth to lead a friendly ride. Noon or noon-thirty is about my speed as well. Would friends with Rivendellian aesthetics, if not bikes, be welcome? Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Apr 22, 10:55 am, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to put together a Portland-Vancouver area Rivendellesque ride. Maybe do a loop out to Kelly Point Park (bring a sack lunch) and then promenade through downtown St. Johns, then back over to Overlook park or something like that. Anyone with better or more specific route ideas PLEASE speak up. Ideally, the route should be accessible by transit for folks coming from farther away. (I'm thinking N/NE Portland so that folks from The Couve can join in the fun.) Proposing Sunday, May 23, alternate date could be Sunday June 6. (Trying to avoid Sunday Parkways dates because I know some pdx-area folks on this list want to participate in those.) Suggest start time of Noon or noon-thirty, hang for a coupla hours and enjoy. Whatcha think? Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list. Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake, but I covet that Rivendell. Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal. Philip On Apr 22, 8:22 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
Not really. I move my hands around a lot to avoid numbness, but that's about it. I felt great at the end of the 400. Keep in mind that I've been doing long distance rides for a long time (rode my first double century in 1983), and I have my position on the bike pretty much dialed in. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:51 AM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: So you don't even get shoulder/neck aches after 17 hours riding? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Slight topic drift. Grant's sanguine attitude toward the cancelled custom has me wondering: how do frame builder's view cancellations as a rule? Provided the buyer accepts the downpayment is lost is the builder usually ok with the cancellation? It is one thing, I imagine if the buyer cancels before the actual build. Here, the bike was built and painted. Someone had to pay JB, I am certain. The many mysteries of the custome frame world! On Apr 22, 2:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list. Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake, but I covet that Rivendell. Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal. Philip On Apr 22, 8:22 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Riv should consider a production run of this strange bike -- as people have imagined it, it would be darn fun, since the QB has gone away and the replacement is delayed. Imagine something like this that could fit either 650B fatties or 700cx35 with Paul Motolite BMX adjustable brakes. Brake bosses in the rear, for sensibility's sake, Fixed/Free, off road, fat tire simple touring bomber. What fun! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Apr 22, 12:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list. Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake, but I covet that Rivendell. Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal. Philip On Apr 22, 8:22 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
Count me in! The route sounds fine. I'd be up for something longer. But, it really doesn't matter much. ~Ron, SE PDX On Apr 22, 12:32 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I would love this. It sounds perfect. I'm not a fast cyclist, but I trust Beth to lead a friendly ride. Noon or noon-thirty is about my speed as well. Would friends with Rivendellian aesthetics, if not bikes, be welcome? Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Apr 22, 10:55 am, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to put together a Portland-Vancouver area Rivendellesque ride. Maybe do a loop out to Kelly Point Park (bring a sack lunch) and then promenade through downtown St. Johns, then back over to Overlook park or something like that. Anyone with better or more specific route ideas PLEASE speak up. Ideally, the route should be accessible by transit for folks coming from farther away. (I'm thinking N/NE Portland so that folks from The Couve can join in the fun.) Proposing Sunday, May 23, alternate date could be Sunday June 6. (Trying to avoid Sunday Parkways dates because I know some pdx-area folks on this list want to participate in those.) Suggest start time of Noon or noon-thirty, hang for a coupla hours and enjoy. Whatcha think? Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
I imagine cancellations due to the customer changing their mind are one thing. If a customer ordered a $3000 thing from me, and paid $1000 for example. If I started work on it, I'd keep the $1000 no matter what, but only if the customer simply changed their mind and cancelled. If I hadn't started, I'd likely give the money back, because those interactions are never fun (past life in retail). Disengage when you can. This situation appears to be more of a gray area, hence the 30 hours back and forth. If the gusset really is the issue then that tells me somebody flat out forgot to include the gusset and Riv elected not to go back and add the gusset. Maybe the customer mentioned it and forgot to confirm it but felt like he had been clear enough. Maybe somebody wrote it down somewhere but the builder didn't get told about it. I'd imagine that if the builder ignored an instruction, that they'd want to fix it. Clearly the frame went to paint without a gusset so Joe Bell has nothing to do with any of it. It probably came down to Riv just saying sorry, there's no gusset, and Riv elected to not pay to get it added and elected not to build another frame and the customer elected not to take something that he felt he didn't order. When you order something custom, you expect everything to be perfect. Most people do, anyway. On Apr 22, 1:54 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Slight topic drift. Grant's sanguine attitude toward the cancelled custom has me wondering: how do frame builder's view cancellations as a rule? Provided the buyer accepts the downpayment is lost is the builder usually ok with the cancellation? It is one thing, I imagine if the buyer cancels before the actual build. Here, the bike was built and painted. Someone had to pay JB, I am certain. The many mysteries of the custome frame world! On Apr 22, 2:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list. Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake, but I covet that Rivendell. Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal. Philip On Apr 22, 8:22 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Well Said Jim! On Apr 22, 8:45 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Just a reminder that it is just fine to disagree with anyone on this list, but it is not OK to make personal comments directed at them, or their perceived perspective towards cycling, etc. - Jim / Getting All List Admin-y, Removing Posts Follow Up Comments -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
And I bit! On Apr 22, 8:43 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Not to worry, R. Tarik is pulling your leg. John at RBW On Apr 21, 11:31 pm, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: What? Grant built a carbon bike? After all that he's said and written about them, I hope that's not true. On Apr 22, 12:11 am, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, based on very well placed sources: The frame in question is the full carbon riv that was NOT at the SD bike show. The original buyer requested that it had clearance for no more than 20mm tires, but that was mistakenly transcribed as 20mm with fenders. The final product just had a touch too much space between the 18mm tires that the customer preferred and the frame, destroying the balance between fat frame tubes and very tiny tires with subliminal clearance. It will probably be repainted as PROTOORBEA and sold on Ebay. Tarik On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. We are of a like mind. I need another bike like I need another hole in my head. Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling. On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You
RE: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Just to note. It sounds like, in this case, that the customer was not getting exactly what he or she asked for. This is a very different circumstance than simple cancellation after the start of the build process. I would want all my money back if I didn't receive what was asked for. If I cancelled, I would think there would be reason for the builder to keep the deposit. Joe Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:54:03 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom? From: joelmatth...@mac.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Slight topic drift. Grant's sanguine attitude toward the cancelled custom has me wondering: how do frame builder's view cancellations as a rule? Provided the buyer accepts the downpayment is lost is the builder usually ok with the cancellation? It is one thing, I imagine if the buyer cancels before the actual build. Here, the bike was built and painted. Someone had to pay JB, I am certain. The many mysteries of the custome frame world! On Apr 22, 2:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list. Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake, but I covet that Rivendell. Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal. Philip On Apr 22, 8:22 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bike of the Week Auction #2
Heads up to the bunch: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel questions
Thanks all for the info. I think I've decided that should I ever need to replace the wheel I have, it'll be with a 40-hole 6-speed Phil FW / Dyad / DB13. Probably get a few freewheels at the same time. If I have a bad experience with that wheel within a year, then I'll just start buying dirt-cheap ready-mades and treat them as disposable. Thanks again! Thomas Lynn Skean On Apr 22, 8:30 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: There's no difference in the spacing of of a 5/6/7sp IRD freewheel and a 8sp cassette of any make. Standard Shimano spacing for all. If you use a Suntour FW spacing varies . Sachs FW's use Shimano compatible spacing also... as does Sunrace. FW and cassette ride the same. I prefer Phil Wood FW hubs because they are simple and durable. Axles are never an issue with PW hubs. I prefer FW hubs because I can fully service them myself, if a bearing or FW body ever went bad, I have spares. With a Cassette, you may have to send it to the manufacturer(in the case of PW,White,CK,etc.) . which means dismantling the wheel. . . which if you pay top dollar to have a perfect wheel, you don't go dismantling them. . .Ever. I also prefer 7sp above all because I friction shift, and above 7speeds I found it tedious and I gained nothing useful in gears. Don't worry about the OCR thing, I think it's a bit over rated and convoluted. A 7sp PW hub and a standard rim (like a Mavic A719) will make for a plenty durable wheel. I've had mine for many years built by a Joe Young and have never had to touch them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
I didn't mean to make personal comments directed at the OP, I was trying to direct them at his post. I commented because I felt that the post seemed out of character for this list. It's one thing to say one had to put aside a great project for a couple of years because of family and work, and then comment on how excellent it is to finally be putting it together. I would have celebrated that! I also think that if you have ten Rivs this is the place to show them off. I was put off by the idea that one actually forgets a bike like that in the basement, and that the OP needed to make that clear to the rest of us. Many of whom I assume are like me and only get to build a bike like that once a decade. As I said before, this list is about expensive bicycles so that is what we should talk about. But I also think many people also read this list to dream, as motivation for saving, or even for ideas on how to build budget Riv-like bikes. Given the reality of our world today it bummed me out to read that post this morning. So, sorry if I offended, I know this is a really polite list and I was not just trying to start a fight. That said, I stand by my post and I think the OP's original comments should have been taken down long before mine so that I didn't need to say the obvious. I may not be well known here as a poster but I have been reading this list (and earlier versions) for years. Maybe I just didn't get an inside reference? Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. And, even though Indy is a tough bike town, after three years I've managed to find a great daily ride. I was reading this morning because I was so excited to take that ride on a beautiful spring day in the middle west. I didn't mean to offend, but I did intend to comment. If you don't want to post this let me know and I'll remove myself from this list. swen On Apr 22, 12:17 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? I don't think there's any joke, nor is Scott trying to flaunt any idea of wealth. I know Scott only slightly, but i don't think he and his family are any more well off than most of us, and bikes are their main (only?) transportation, so it's certainly not out of line to have a bigger bike budget when you aren't spending money on a car. I haven't found a Bleriot in my basement, but i've certainly rediscovered misplaced valuable things in the basement or garage, and that's without two cross-country moves in the last few years. I spend relatively little on bikes, but i've certainly accumulated enough decent parts over the years to build 2 complete bikes from the pile of stuff in my garage, so maybe i'm not that shocked by this. It's a nice find, and even Riv-related - relax! -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
I wish I was a little bit taller I wish I was a baller I wish I had girl. If I did I would call her. I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four Impala On Apr 22, 3:42 pm, Dave @ Riv dave...@gmail.com wrote: Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
I have found this to be one of the funnier stories in quite some time! On Apr 22, 10:45 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Just a reminder that it is just fine to disagree with anyone on this list, but it is not OK to make personal comments directed at them, or their perceived perspective towards cycling, etc. - Jim / Getting All List Admin-y, Removing Posts Follow Up Comments -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Having pondered this point on a number of occasions...nothing is perfect. If RBW gave me exactly what I asked for, it wouldn't be perfect...because I don't know exactly what I need/want. It is the same reason I don't design a house and have it built, because there are people out there who do a better job of that than I do. I purchased my first Rivendell in 95, the last one a year or two ago; I have had much better results going with Grants advice than trying to figure it out on my own. As one example out of several, in 95 none of my bikes had fenders...now they all do. Glad Grant thought of that! Angus On Apr 22, 5:24 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: Just to note. It sounds like, in this case, that the customer was not getting exactly what he or she asked for. This is a very different circumstance than simple cancellation after the start of the build process. I would want all my money back if I didn't receive what was asked for. If I cancelled, I would think there would be reason for the builder to keep the deposit. Joe Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:54:03 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom? From: joelmatth...@mac.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Slight topic drift. Grant's sanguine attitude toward the cancelled custom has me wondering: how do frame builder's view cancellations as a rule? Provided the buyer accepts the downpayment is lost is the builder usually ok with the cancellation? It is one thing, I imagine if the buyer cancels before the actual build. Here, the bike was built and painted. Someone had to pay JB, I am certain. The many mysteries of the custome frame world! On Apr 22, 2:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I find the whole situation shocking, and I'd say so, but I'm sure the owner's on the list. Riding fixed in the woods, I find the rear easier to control without skidding than riding a freewheeling bike. I like having a rear brake, but I covet that Rivendell. Dirt Drop bars, fat tires, a 32/37 up front and a 14 and a 19 in back (on a Phil fixed/fixed, as long as I'm dreaming)... ideal. Philip On Apr 22, 8:22 am, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I walked over to Riv HQ yesterday and took a look around. The abandoned custom is the blue, fixed-gear MTB from the SD show. I hope someone buys it as is. It is a unique and beautiful bike. The BB is fillet brazed because they didn't have a lug for the angles, spacing etc. The bike was designed for someone in a place with fewer hills than around here. I like riding fixed off-road but only with 2 brakes. No rear brake causes a lot of skidding on the steeps, which isn't good for the trails. An extra gusset at the DT/HT intersection was requested, like a Bombadil. That's the missing piece. jim m wc ca On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show? Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with the current state of the union something that created that much drool must have value. No telling if that is the one though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTA... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
I have yet to regret a Phil-hubbed wheel. On Apr 22, 6:44 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Okay, just as kind of a follow-up... I've opened up the notchy tick-ety tick-ety XT hub on my current wheel. It appears to be missing a bearing. A local rider friend says that's not uncommon in general with bike hubs. He was not speaking of any particular brand or model. I don't have any real experience with opening bike hubs, so I'm basing the notion that there's a missing bearing on two things: (1) the cup obviously has enough room for another bearing to fit nicely without any issues whatsoever, even when sinking the bearings into a bed of grease. Maybe it's not technically a cup; I've only a vague notion of the terminology. But anyway... And (2) the Shimano technical document on-line for the Deore XT FH M770 hub (which I'm working with here) has a picture that appears to have 13 bearings on the drive side and 11 on the non-drive side. My hub had 11 on the non-drive side (they're in a retainer of some kind) but only had 12 on the drive side. One would think one could rely on the text of such a document and not actually have to look at a diagram. But the text said that the hub uses 20 3/16 bearings. Since mine came with 23 (and I believe is supposed to have 24), I take the text with a grain of salt. I'm just glad the text appears to have the bearing size right (3/16). Moral is: maybe this wheel is okay. And maybe it'll stay okay. Time'll tell. Still contemplating a Phil-hubbed wheel at some point, though. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Apr 21, 12:24 am, Bruce Curry currybru...@gmail.com wrote: I see your 250lbs and raise you almost 20. When I first got my current bike add another 30. I started with a Rambouillet with older 105 hubs on 32 spoke Mavic M3's which were built for the 200lb PO who rode 27mm specialized tires. The rear rim lasted probably 3 months. Solution: keep the 105/32 rear hub, rebuild w/Mavic a317's (?) double butted rims w/DT 14guage spokes and brass nipples that have some loctite-type glue substance which keeps them solidly in place. I put 33.33mm Jack Brown tires @80 psi which are about as light as Grant recommends at my weight. I expect about 1500 miles off the rear JB, about 3k on the front. They have a Kevlar version if you need additional puncture protection. Front rim is the original Mavic M3 w/ the 33.33 JB @70 psi. I have about 2500 miles on these rims without any issues but would move to a Mavic 717 36 spoke on 105's if I did. Last point: go to your local wheel builder to get these done. You will get free trueing as well as his advice. Cost is probably $60 for the hub, $45 for the rim, $1/spoke and $50 for the build. Last thought. At 100miles/wk I was losing 10lbs/month no matter what I ate. Average ride was 25 - 40miles solo @17-17.5mph. Didn't take long. Bottom line: I think w/a decent hub and the right rim fabbed by a good builder and you will have more than you need for less than $200. Good luck. Bruce On Apr 19, 10:02 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all. I seek counsel. I weigh about 250 lbs. I often carry 10-15 lbs on a rear rack. I ride a Trek hybrid, sitting bolt-upright. (By the way, this Trek is about as Riv'd up as any Trek could be. Actual Riv relevance: Later this year I'll also be riding a Hillborne and any counsel I receive will apply to it for sure; maybe/maybe-not for the Trek. Also, the riding I do is very much non-clubby, non-race-y, and non-trivial in distance; this seems to match up with Riv philosophy and thus seems appropriate for this group.) I use 700x35 tires on 32- or 36-spoke wheels at about 60 psi. I ride 70-100 miles/week 12 months a year (I bet that'll rise when I get the Hillborne), over half on limestone trail. I'm actually pretty easy on the bike in general, avoiding obstacles/rough path where practical, lifting the wheel and slowing down when I don't avoid the hazard. My problem is that I haven't gotten more than 1000 miles on any rear wheel without complete failure (cracked hub, bent axle) or the need for repair (hub overhaul, multiple spoke breakage, rim *way* out-of- true-or-round). The wheels I've used include some cheapies and some good ones. Some were better to use than others. But all were okay to use (until they failed :( ). More wheel details later. My preliminary question is: should I simply expect to have these problems every thousand (or two) miles? That is, will I likely have problems like these at that rate no matter *what* wheel I have? If so, then my plan will likely be to go for a value proposition instead of a reliability one. That is, I'll settle with a cheap wheel, always having a backup, knowing that I'll have to replace/repair/adjust more often than I'd like. That'd be okay, I guess... though it
[RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on this? This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Freewheel questions
On Apr 22, 6:30 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: There's no difference in the spacing of of a 5/6/7sp IRD freewheel and a 8sp cassette of any make. Standard Shimano spacing for all. Not quite true. Numbers courtesy of Sheldon: Standard 5 and 6 speed spacing was 5.3 mm Suntour Ultra Six was 5.0 mm Suntour Accushift 6 was 5.5 mm Shimano and Sachs 7 speed was 5.0 mm, but Suntour 7 speed had unequal steps (4.8/5.0 mm). Campy 8 speed was 5.0 mm. 8 speed Campy indexed perfectly with 7 speed cassettes freewheels. I used that setup for a few years. Shimano SRAM 8 speed cassettes are 4.8 mm. They may kind of interchange with 7 speed, but often not perfectly. The easiest, best match for the OP's indexed shifters will be an 8 speed cassette. A $ 40 Jtek Shiftmate #1 will adapt a Shimano 8 speed shifter derailleur setup to Campy 8 speed, which is 5 mm spacing, so that would allow the use of a 7 speed freewheel/Phil hub setup without degrading the shifting. The cost of the Shiftmate is a lot less than the difference between Phil FW and cassette hubs! http://www.jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm I now use a Shiftmate with that old Campy 8 speed group to let it use cheap and available 8 speed Shimano cassettes. Works fine. BTW, I have Phil cassette hub, and as I recall it's pretty easy to service: http://www.philwood.com/wp-content/service/FSCinstructions.pdf Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: snip Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. snip swen This is completely off-the-topic of the thread but it has me wondering. Is this accurate? It was my understanding that the first-year, green QB's (and the subsequent orange and silver ones) were built by Panasonic. No biggie. Just curious. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Sorry, Tarik, but it was not the tire clearance that sank the deal; rather the customer wanted the carbon fiber weave on a 22.5-degree bias and Rivendell did the bias at 45-degrees. cheers! On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:11 PM, tarik saleh wrote: Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, based on very well placed sources: The frame in question is the full carbon riv that was NOT at the SD bike show. The original buyer requested that it had clearance for no more than 20mm tires, but that was mistakenly transcribed as 20mm with fenders. The final product just had a touch too much space between the 18mm tires that the customer preferred and the frame, destroying the balance between fat frame tubes and very tiny tires with subliminal clearance. It will probably be repainted as PROTOORBEA and sold on Ebay. Tarik On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. We are of a like mind. I need another bike like I need another hole in my head. Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling. On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
Wait, aren't you talking about the new Bruce Gordon/Moots/Rivendell collabo? On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:48 PM, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Sorry, Tarik, but it was not the tire clearance that sank the deal; rather the customer wanted the carbon fiber weave on a 22.5-degree bias and Rivendell did the bias at 45-degrees. cheers! On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:11 PM, tarik saleh wrote: Sorry to burst all of your bubbles, based on very well placed sources: The frame in question is the full carbon riv that was NOT at the SD bike show. The original buyer requested that it had clearance for no more than 20mm tires, but that was mistakenly transcribed as 20mm with fenders. The final product just had a touch too much space between the 18mm tires that the customer preferred and the frame, destroying the balance between fat frame tubes and very tiny tires with subliminal clearance. It will probably be repainted as PROTOORBEA and sold on Ebay. Tarik On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Joel, Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool, though. It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy. Ron On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. We are of a like mind. I need another bike like I need another hole in my head. Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling. On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the rear, Repack Revisited. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Oh, I always thought that was the same shop? On Apr 22, 8:15 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: snip Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. snip swen This is completely off-the-topic of the thread but it has me wondering. Is this accurate? It was my understanding that the first-year, green QB's (and the subsequent orange and silver ones) were built by Panasonic. No biggie. Just curious. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I have a 59cm Blériot. I weigh, um, more than you by 50 lbs or so. When I used Col De La Vies, I kept them around 70-75 lbs. A lot of folks reported that they felt a little squirmy, especially in corners, but I never noticed it until I got Grand Bois Hetres and felt the absence of squirm. Noticeable, but not a huge difference, at least to me. So, maybe add 10-15 lbs pressure? -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts From: Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns So, as I mentioned, I purchased a cherry size 59 Bleriot from another list member two weeks back. It came in a box last week, and I have been commuting on it this week. Great fitting, comfortable bike. It's different than my other Riv's in that it rolls along on 650Bs and 35mm Col de la Vies. Aside from my slow uptake on remembering to keep the inside pedal up when negotiating a turn (numerous bone-head pedal strikes to my discredit) the next strangest thing are the tires. For those of you who ride with these Col de la Vie tires, do they feel, well, squishy to you in turns? I have the rear pumped up to 45 lbs, and the fronts to about 42. When I corner, the rear feels like cornering with a flat tire, yet I check, and they are still inflated as per the sidewalls (max of 50). I'm not the kid I used to be, but I still only weigh 175, and most of that is still distributed pretty much like it should be. Any of you good folks have any thoughts on this? This weekend I'm converting the cockpit from drops and bar-ends to Albatross and thumbies. I'll post pix then. Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Hilarious. This is like finding a $20 bill in the pocket of freshly laundered pants, only so much better. On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR]. Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box. Some nice parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and unopened. Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims, laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King cassette hub. Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the whole 650B thang. **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot** -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
I'm not sure why, exactly, but it might have something to do with the FSA designed for a 50-34, and I *think* the radius of the 46-30 is just different enough to cause problems for me. I had to trim the derailleur after nearly every shift, and in my favorite gear I couldn't quite trim it just right - had a very slight rub. With the wider cage, I can shift 4 cogs before I need to trim, and I can always trim away any rubbing. Worked for me . . . R/ Alex Hi Alex, So why does a 9 speed, 12-36 cassette need a wider front derailleur cage than, say, a 10 speed 13-29? I would think the overall width of the cassette would be pretty similar, and therefore you would get the same chain angles. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Interesting how differently we can interpret a post. I thought the OP intended this as self-deprecating humor. Sheesh, how could any reasonable person forget about such a great bike stashed away in the basement? I at least found the post amusing, and my most expensive bike is a Sam I built myself with budget NOS parts (including wheels), i.e., a sub $2000 Riv (complete). Of course I was a bit envious, but no more than when I see somebody's new top of the line Riv build here. I did briefly think to check the bike box in my car port to see if there is a new frame hiding amongst the bike packing materials (it was my birthday 2 days ago), but alas I am not THAT forgetful. Cheers, Gernot On Apr 23, 6:01 am, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean to make personal comments directed at the OP, I was trying to direct them at his post. I commented because I felt that the post seemed out of character for this list. It's one thing to say one had to put aside a great project for a couple of years because of family and work, and then comment on how excellent it is to finally be putting it together. I would have celebrated that! I also think that if you have ten Rivs this is the place to show them off. I was put off by the idea that one actually forgets a bike like that in the basement, and that the OP needed to make that clear to the rest of us. Many of whom I assume are like me and only get to build a bike like that once a decade. As I said before, this list is about expensive bicycles so that is what we should talk about. But I also think many people also read this list to dream, as motivation for saving, or even for ideas on how to build budget Riv-like bikes. Given the reality of our world today it bummed me out to read that post this morning. So, sorry if I offended, I know this is a really polite list and I was not just trying to start a fight. That said, I stand by my post and I think the OP's original comments should have been taken down long before mine so that I didn't need to say the obvious. I may not be well known here as a poster but I have been reading this list (and earlier versions) for years. Maybe I just didn't get an inside reference? Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. And, even though Indy is a tough bike town, after three years I've managed to find a great daily ride. I was reading this morning because I was so excited to take that ride on a beautiful spring day in the middle west. I didn't mean to offend, but I did intend to comment. If you don't want to post this let me know and I'll remove myself from this list. swen On Apr 22, 12:17 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? I don't think there's any joke, nor is Scott trying to flaunt any idea of wealth. I know Scott only slightly, but i don't think he and his family are any more well off than most of us, and bikes are their main (only?) transportation, so it's certainly not out of line to have a bigger bike budget when you aren't spending money on a car. I haven't found a Bleriot in my basement, but i've certainly rediscovered misplaced valuable things in the basement or garage, and that's without two cross-country moves in the last few years. I spend relatively little on bikes, but i've certainly accumulated enough decent parts over the years to build 2 complete bikes from the pile of stuff in my garage, so maybe i'm not that shocked by this. It's a nice find, and even Riv-related - relax! -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
Get some Schwalbe Marathons, I guarantee you they won't feel squishy. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
Shaun, what do you find to be the sweet spot for the 38 Racers, and what's your combined bike/rider/luggage load? Gernot On Apr 22, 11:00 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:53 AM, wile dylanmcner...@yahoo.com wrote: I would second this suggestion for heavier riders like myself (190 lbs.), but you might not need them if you're not concerned about durability. I was also trying to go wider than the JBs, and am very happy now with the Marathons. To me the tire is just as supple, but I also run them at a lower pressure than the JBs and again am a heavier rider. I have found that suppleness depends a lot on finding the pressure sweet spot of any given tire first before judging - I think this is the range where the tires are most forgiving without being slow and mushy. For me the Marathons have a pretty big sweet spot. Yeah. I overinflated my 38mm Marathon Racers to begin with. After several weeks (months?) of neglecting to air them up, I accidentally found the sweet spot. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
as long as there is no dress code :-) On Apr 22, 10:55 am, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to put together a Portland-Vancouver area Rivendellesque ride. Maybe do a loop out to Kelly Point Park (bring a sack lunch) and then promenade through downtown St. Johns, then back over to Overlook park or something like that. Anyone with better or more specific route ideas PLEASE speak up. Ideally, the route should be accessible by transit for folks coming from farther away. (I'm thinking N/NE Portland so that folks from The Couve can join in the fun.) Proposing Sunday, May 23, alternate date could be Sunday June 6. (Trying to avoid Sunday Parkways dates because I know some pdx-area folks on this list want to participate in those.) Suggest start time of Noon or noon-thirty, hang for a coupla hours and enjoy. Whatcha think? Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
For a longer ride, ride to the start :-) On Apr 22, 2:22 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in! The route sounds fine. I'd be up for something longer. But, it really doesn't matter much. ~Ron, SE PDX On Apr 22, 12:32 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I would love this. It sounds perfect. I'm not a fast cyclist, but I trust Beth to lead a friendly ride. Noon or noon-thirty is about my speed as well. Would friends with Rivendellian aesthetics, if not bikes, be welcome? Philip McMinnville, Ore. On Apr 22, 10:55 am, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to put together a Portland-Vancouver area Rivendellesque ride. Maybe do a loop out to Kelly Point Park (bring a sack lunch) and then promenade through downtown St. Johns, then back over to Overlook park or something like that. Anyone with better or more specific route ideas PLEASE speak up. Ideally, the route should be accessible by transit for folks coming from farther away. (I'm thinking N/NE Portland so that folks from The Couve can join in the fun.) Proposing Sunday, May 23, alternate date could be Sunday June 6. (Trying to avoid Sunday Parkways dates because I know some pdx-area folks on this list want to participate in those.) Suggest start time of Noon or noon-thirty, hang for a coupla hours and enjoy. Whatcha think? Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
If it makes you a little more interested, I've heard you really can't tell the difference between a 64 and a 62. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:09 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I was a little bit taller I wish I was a baller I wish I had girl. If I did I would call her. I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four Impala On Apr 22, 3:42 pm, Dave @ Riv dave...@gmail.com wrote: Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
No, they won't feel squishy. I'm really fond of my Michelin Axial Raids, but these are the last of them. Don't know what my next tire set will be. On Apr 22, 6:58 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Get some Schwalbe Marathons, I guarantee you they won't feel squishy. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; Mushing thru turns
I weigh 175 and had mine 65R/50F and thought they were fine. You may be feeling the squirm from the tread which a lot of people don't like. But that'll go away when it wears down a bit. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: No, they won't feel squishy. I'm really fond of my Michelin Axial Raids, but these are the last of them. Don't know what my next tire set will be. On Apr 22, 6:58 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Get some Schwalbe Marathons, I guarantee you they won't feel squishy. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Apr 22, 9:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. Argh! I'm just a touch taller but I have short legs so that may fit perfectly. And I don't have a fixed gear bike at all, 650B or otherwise. And my wife's away until the end of the month. And I live only 50 miles from Riv HQ. No...no...must...maintain...control... So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) Sounds good to me. Of course, I am single. On Apr 22, 9:25 pm, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 22, 9:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. Argh! I'm just a touch taller but I have short legs so that may fit perfectly. And I don't have a fixed gear bike at all, 650B or otherwise. And my wife's away until the end of the month. And I live only 50 miles from Riv HQ. No...no...must...maintain...control... So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
If Grant is going to have it repainted, I hope he'll put on some rear cantis at the same time. Then watch out world! On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:40 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) Sounds good to me. Of course, I am single. On Apr 22, 9:25 pm, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 22, 9:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. Argh! I'm just a touch taller but I have short legs so that may fit perfectly. And I don't have a fixed gear bike at all, 650B or otherwise. And my wife's away until the end of the month. And I live only 50 miles from Riv HQ. No...no...must...maintain...control... So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
That's a pretty slammin' deal, especially seat/post and pedals included. The dropouts look adequately angled to me, but I guess it's hard to tell from the photo. Still, it seems it would work well with a Dos Eno freewheel which is what some folks use for the quickbeam. On Apr 22, 6:42 pm, Dave @ Riv dave...@gmail.com wrote: Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
I've seen the future, and there are no flying cars nor are there any single speeds in my future. On Apr 22, 7:04 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: If it makes you a little more interested, I've heard you really can't tell the difference between a 64 and a 62. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:09 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I was a little bit taller I wish I was a baller I wish I had girl. If I did I would call her. I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four Impala On Apr 22, 3:42 pm, Dave @ Riv dave...@gmail.com wrote: Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
I have the plain black wall 35mm Paselas with wire bead and they are definitely easier to get up to speed on than my plain Jane 700x47 (41 actual) Marathons..but the Marathons are awesome when it comes to varied terrain and road shoulder junk. I even hit what appeared to be the remains of a paint scraper. It wanged off the tire and out to the side with no damage to the sidewall. I once hit a sharp, walnut sized rock with a Pasela and it tore at the sidewall and the tire was ruined. I run the Marathon pressures to around 60-70 psi which is max for this tire but I weigh in at a semi healthy 268 lbs. I hate fixing flats and I must have a reliable tire for commuting so I say, go wide with pride ! On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Thank You. My wife, by the way, would agree with you as she finds me quite Funny in an annoying sorta way. -Scott On Apr 22, 4:21 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have found this to be one of the funnier stories in quite some time! On Apr 22, 10:45 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Just a reminder that it is just fine to disagree with anyone on this list, but it is not OK to make personal comments directed at them, or their perceived perspective towards cycling, etc. - Jim / Getting All List Admin-y, Removing Posts Follow Up Comments -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
Earl [by the way, I like the tea you make ;-) ]... Precisely how I meant it. We have moved so much in the past coupla years, it's any wonder I can find my brain. It was a shockingly, amusingly, wonderful moment when I found the Bleriot + parts the other day. -That's how I intended the thread/post to be read, no other intent intended whatsoever- -Scott On Apr 22, 6:56 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting how differently we can interpret a post. I thought the OP intended this as self-deprecating humor. Sheesh, how could any reasonable person forget about such a great bike stashed away in the basement? I at least found the post amusing, and my most expensive bike is a Sam I built myself with budget NOS parts (including wheels), i.e., a sub $2000 Riv (complete). Of course I was a bit envious, but no more than when I see somebody's new top of the line Riv build here. I did briefly think to check the bike box in my car port to see if there is a new frame hiding amongst the bike packing materials (it was my birthday 2 days ago), but alas I am not THAT forgetful. Cheers, Gernot On Apr 23, 6:01 am, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mean to make personal comments directed at the OP, I was trying to direct them at his post. I commented because I felt that the post seemed out of character for this list. It's one thing to say one had to put aside a great project for a couple of years because of family and work, and then comment on how excellent it is to finally be putting it together. I would have celebrated that! I also think that if you have ten Rivs this is the place to show them off. I was put off by the idea that one actually forgets a bike like that in the basement, and that the OP needed to make that clear to the rest of us. Many of whom I assume are like me and only get to build a bike like that once a decade. As I said before, this list is about expensive bicycles so that is what we should talk about. But I also think many people also read this list to dream, as motivation for saving, or even for ideas on how to build budget Riv-like bikes. Given the reality of our world today it bummed me out to read that post this morning. So, sorry if I offended, I know this is a really polite list and I was not just trying to start a fight. That said, I stand by my post and I think the OP's original comments should have been taken down long before mine so that I didn't need to say the obvious. I may not be well known here as a poster but I have been reading this list (and earlier versions) for years. Maybe I just didn't get an inside reference? Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. And, even though Indy is a tough bike town, after three years I've managed to find a great daily ride. I was reading this morning because I was so excited to take that ride on a beautiful spring day in the middle west. I didn't mean to offend, but I did intend to comment. If you don't want to post this let me know and I'll remove myself from this list. swen On Apr 22, 12:17 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:42 AM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to say it but I find this post extremely distasteful. I know all of us on this list find the money to buy expensive bikes (at least once in a while) but this oops, I forgot two grand worth of dreamy bike parts in my basement routine is unbelievable and a really pompous way to let everyone know about both your good taste and your disposable income. I mean really, if you could forget a new Riv build with Paul, King, TA, etc. components how serious of a cyclist are you? I would bet most of us think hard and save up for expensive bike builds. The type of attitude reduces the love of beautiful bikes to absent minded conspicuous consumption. So, did I miss the joke or something? I don't think there's any joke, nor is Scott trying to flaunt any idea of wealth. I know Scott only slightly, but i don't think he and his family are any more well off than most of us, and bikes are their main (only?) transportation, so it's certainly not out of line to have a bigger bike budget when you aren't spending money on a car. I haven't found a Bleriot in my basement, but i've certainly rediscovered misplaced valuable things in the basement or garage, and that's without two cross-country moves in the last few years. I spend relatively little on bikes, but i've certainly accumulated enough decent parts over the years to build 2 complete bikes from the pile of stuff in my garage, so maybe i'm not that shocked by this. It's a nice find, and even Riv-related - relax! -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
Me and my girls would very much like to participate in this ride, alas, 2'ish would be better for us as a family. Any chance we could 'intercept' the ride around that hour? -Scott On Apr 22, 10:55 am, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to put together a Portland-Vancouver area Rivendellesque ride. Maybe do a loop out to Kelly Point Park (bring a sack lunch) and then promenade through downtown St. Johns, then back over to Overlook park or something like that. Anyone with better or more specific route ideas PLEASE speak up. Ideally, the route should be accessible by transit for folks coming from farther away. (I'm thinking N/NE Portland so that folks from The Couve can join in the fun.) Proposing Sunday, May 23, alternate date could be Sunday June 6. (Trying to avoid Sunday Parkways dates because I know some pdx-area folks on this list want to participate in those.) Suggest start time of Noon or noon-thirty, hang for a coupla hours and enjoy. Whatcha think? Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
Just got back for a mixed terrain ride on the 35 Pasleas... they are a pretty sweet ride! Road at about 78 psi which is just right for me at 187lbs ( just me) Fast on the pavement but good enuf in the dirt. Have to pay attention in soft dirt corners at speed but otherwise a great all around tire. Did I mention how well that Hillborne rides off road? Just a wonderful feeling to have a dialed in ride! ~Mike~ On Apr 22, 8:13 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have the plain black wall 35mm Paselas with wire bead and they are definitely easier to get up to speed on than my plain Jane 700x47 (41 actual) Marathons..but the Marathons are awesome when it comes to varied terrain and road shoulder junk. I even hit what appeared to be the remains of a paint scraper. It wanged off the tire and out to the side with no damage to the sidewall. I once hit a sharp, walnut sized rock with a Pasela and it tore at the sidewall and the tire was ruined. I run the Marathon pressures to around 60-70 psi which is max for this tire but I weigh in at a semi healthy 268 lbs. I hate fixing flats and I must have a reliable tire for commuting so I say, go wide with pride ! On Apr 20, 8:32 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both in terms of actual width and ride quality? There have been a couple of posts claiming the 35 and 37 Paselas are both 36mm. Do they ride differently? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
No matter how much my mind says... need gears to enjoy bike... the single speed simplicity just overrules logic... and it just looks like a sweet ride! I will have one someday if they make it. ~Mike~ On Apr 22, 8:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen the future, and there are no flying cars nor are there any single speeds in my future. On Apr 22, 7:04 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: If it makes you a little more interested, I've heard you really can't tell the difference between a 64 and a 62. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:09 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I was a little bit taller I wish I was a baller I wish I had girl. If I did I would call her. I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four Impala On Apr 22, 3:42 pm, Dave @ Riv dave...@gmail.com wrote: Heads up to the bunch:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
I began riding [again, as an adult] at 501 pounds. Zero problems [ever, and they are now on my wife's custom Bob Brown] with 40-hole Sun Rhyno rims laced to a SON in front and a converted to 135mm Shimano tandem cassette hub in rear. Rode Schwalbe 'Big Apples' back then. Again, never a single issue. -Scott On Apr 19, 10:02 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, all. I seek counsel. I weigh about 250 lbs. I often carry 10-15 lbs on a rear rack. I ride a Trek hybrid, sitting bolt-upright. (By the way, this Trek is about as Riv'd up as any Trek could be. Actual Riv relevance: Later this year I'll also be riding a Hillborne and any counsel I receive will apply to it for sure; maybe/maybe-not for the Trek. Also, the riding I do is very much non-clubby, non-race-y, and non-trivial in distance; this seems to match up with Riv philosophy and thus seems appropriate for this group.) I use 700x35 tires on 32- or 36-spoke wheels at about 60 psi. I ride 70-100 miles/week 12 months a year (I bet that'll rise when I get the Hillborne), over half on limestone trail. I'm actually pretty easy on the bike in general, avoiding obstacles/rough path where practical, lifting the wheel and slowing down when I don't avoid the hazard. My problem is that I haven't gotten more than 1000 miles on any rear wheel without complete failure (cracked hub, bent axle) or the need for repair (hub overhaul, multiple spoke breakage, rim *way* out-of- true-or-round). The wheels I've used include some cheapies and some good ones. Some were better to use than others. But all were okay to use (until they failed :( ). More wheel details later. My preliminary question is: should I simply expect to have these problems every thousand (or two) miles? That is, will I likely have problems like these at that rate no matter *what* wheel I have? If so, then my plan will likely be to go for a value proposition instead of a reliability one. That is, I'll settle with a cheap wheel, always having a backup, knowing that I'll have to replace/repair/adjust more often than I'd like. That'd be okay, I guess... though it seems wrong in some profound way; after all, I've literally never *had* to replace any of my non-Pasela tires. I've put at least 3000 miles on my most recent set and still *could* use the originals the Trek came with. (I went through 4 Paselas in short order, with all of them failing in the same way with a sidewall eruption. Too bad. I liked the gum sidewall look.) However, if these wheel problems are avoidable (yes, yes... I know... losing 80-90 pounds would go a long way; let's assume that's not happening short-term), what kind of wheel will avoid them? Wheels I've used thus far include: --- Shimano RM60 (Alivio-ish?) hub / 32 2|1.8|2mm spokes / cheapish Alex rim - lasted about 1000 miles before breaking spokes, eventually on 3 rides in a row --- 105 hub / 36 2mm spokes / Sun CR18 rim - lasted maybe a little over 1000 miles before 4 holes-worth of drive-side hub snapped off of the hub body --- Deore hub / 32 2mm spokes / Sun CR18 rim - lasted maybe 400 miles before breaking spokes on 3 or 4 rides in a row (had 2 of these on the the theory that the first one was not prepped properly... 2nd one was no different with prep) - eventually I bent an axle on one of these, the other one (having been re-laced and re-trued and overhauled) is now my snow/ice wheel and will see little mileage --- XT hub / 36 2|1.7|2mm spokes / Velocity Synergy OC rim - lasted around 1000 miles before periodic ka-tink ka-tink noise appeared in the hub; am currently looking into whether this is a fatal problem or simply a maintenance issue Now, if the current XT-hubbed wheel's problems turn out to be readily solvable (adjustment of bearings, regreasing, something like that) then I'm happy to stay with this kind of wheel. The spokes seem to maintain tension reasonably well and the rim has only minor touch-up every few hundred miles to keep it very true and round. I like the fact that the drive-side spokes are not *that* much more tight than the non-drive side because of the asymmetry. However, if it turns out that it *is* a fatal or unacceptably-severe problem (and surely one can appreciate my pessimism on this matter), I wonder: What sort of wheel do I need? I don't want to needlessly ride a wheel with 48 spokes and a 3 pound hub (exaggerating, perhaps... but still... you get the point). But I will ride a 48-spoke-3-pound-hub-wheel if that's the only way to avoid these problems. Nor do I want to pay $500+ if a $200 wheel will give me a reasonable level of reliability with reasonable ride quality. Let's assume for argument's sake that I would be willing to go for the $500+ wheel if it would be expected to simply work (and work well, of course) for 1000s of miles with only normal maintenance-type service. Help? Thoughts? Musings? -- You received this message because you
[RBW] Re: Rivendells in the Recent Gallery Updates
Gotta say, Joe Huddleston's Rivendell Road is stunning. Exceptionally well done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2
On Apr 22, 4:09 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I was a little bit taller I wish I was a baller I wish I had girl. If I did I would call her. I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four Impala Nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
You all realize what a bunch of knuckleheads we'll feel like if when Riv posts the pictures it turns out the bike in San Diego is NOT the bike in question! Heck, we've spent enough time pondering we could have built the bike already. If Grant doesn't post a picture pretty soon, somone in the area needs to tool on by get the real story. We've created our own little drama here, with very little solid info. But it's sure a fun read! dougP On Apr 22, 7:48 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: If Grant is going to have it repainted, I hope he'll put on some rear cantis at the same time. Then watch out world! On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:40 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) Sounds good to me. Of course, I am single. On Apr 22, 9:25 pm, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 22, 9:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Looking at the photos only, frame sizing appears to be for someone around 5'6 to 5'9 or so. If it were a bit taller, it would be ideal for my coaster brake vision. Argh! I'm just a touch taller but I have short legs so that may fit perfectly. And I don't have a fixed gear bike at all, 650B or otherwise. And my wife's away until the end of the month. And I live only 50 miles from Riv HQ. No...no...must...maintain...control... So, is the saying tis' better to ask for forgiveness than permission really true? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
I was lucky to get in possession of a 49cm Le Tour Mixte. I figured since my girlfriend just recently got a new job, new place, graduated from college and her birthday was coming up, I figured I should get her something big. Pink is her favorite color and she enjoys biking. So I set off building her a bike. Getting most of the parts together I find myself with a few issues. 1. Big issue the brakes seem like they are only a few centimeters off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4545155110/in/set-72157623789349209/ 2. The rear brake is a center-pull and needs a longer straddle cable to clear the seat tube. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4544523125/in/set-72157623789349209/ So with the first issue I go to the ROB group for some answers. Any ideas of making this work? It's SOOO close to fitting. Or should I just bite the bullet and look for brakes that fit? and about the second issue. Anyone have any ideas and where I can find one? I might check out my local place, Cycle of Change, but never guaranteed that I can find the part there. Thanks in advance! Hopefully I can get this worked out. -Manny Bikes aren't always easy Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
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Re: [RBW] Pink Mixte Le tour Project..
Looks like a GREAT project. I think you're going to have to get some new brakes though. :-( On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:01 PM, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I was lucky to get in possession of a 49cm Le Tour Mixte. I figured since my girlfriend just recently got a new job, new place, graduated from college and her birthday was coming up, I figured I should get her something big. Pink is her favorite color and she enjoys biking. So I set off building her a bike. Getting most of the parts together I find myself with a few issues. 1. Big issue the brakes seem like they are only a few centimeters off. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4545155110/in/set-72157623789349209/ 2. The rear brake is a center-pull and needs a longer straddle cable to clear the seat tube. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4544523125/in/set-72157623789349209/ So with the first issue I go to the ROB group for some answers. Any ideas of making this work? It's SOOO close to fitting. Or should I just bite the bullet and look for brakes that fit? and about the second issue. Anyone have any ideas and where I can find one? I might check out my local place, Cycle of Change, but never guaranteed that I can find the part there. Thanks in advance! Hopefully I can get this worked out. -Manny Bikes aren't always easy Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
On Apr 22, 7:02 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: as long as there is no dress code :-) Well, ideally, you should dress. It's not on World Naked Bike Ride Day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Apr 22, 1:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I'm sure he could, and it would probably look great. However, if you download Rivendell Reader #41, there is an article in there about the Bombadil, and the article discusses the extended lug on the underside of the down tube. The article says the lug extension serves to reinforce an area that is susceptible to a lot of stress. So saying that the missing lug work is a cosmetic oversight seems to contradict that article. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Portland-Vancouver Area Riv Ride?
I need to know which date would work: May 23 or June 6? Pick a date folks? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
