date:20120923

Not saying you do this but cover the speedometer.  Don't look and don't chase a 
speed any speed.
Just like a hill, a very long hill find a comfortable pedal stroke and go.  For 
me it's the noise of headwinds more than the effort that sucks.

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

2012-09-23 Thread Marc Irwin

My Hunq is about 35 lbs decked out for touring.  I carry about 20 lbs of 
gear when I am camping.
I have developed a simple, but very scientific method for attacking the 
climbs:

Gear down, be patient and leave your ego at the bottom.

Marc

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:36:18 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 I have a hard time on hills with minimal commute loads. I probably have 
 only 4lbs on the rack.
  
 I was thinking How do those touring riders manage?.
  
 I can't imagine pedalling with 40lbs. on the bike.
  
 How do you do it? You just have to take it slow and easy?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar

2012-09-23 Thread Marc Irwin

I love my Hunq and you are right, it rides like it is on rails.

Marc

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:45:51 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote:

 Get the 54cm - long top tube makes it bigger.  I rode both and liked the 
 54cm just fine - I didn't notice the 58 being stiffer with the extra tube. 
  I think it's down to esthetics, but they have very similar reaches.  With 
 50mm tires, the standover of the 54cm is very similar to my Hilsen.  Love 
 this bike!  Nice setup.  Mine rides like it's on rails, and nothing beats 
 the roar of the hunqapillar!  

 https://stonehog.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/hunqapillar-porteur/ 


 Brian
 Seattle, WA

 On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Michael_S 
 mikey...@rocketmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 same here... we need a 56!  And that green is beautiful too.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.


 On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:55 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:

 Nice!  love the idea of a Hunqapillar, but I'm between sizes (54-58) 
 and not sure I could do the diagonal tube of the 58.  Comparison to 
 your Hillborne? 

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[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar

2012-09-23 Thread soapscum

I loved my Hillborne in every way and I really don't have the miles in on 
the Hunqapillar to speak to the differences much, but on first blush the 
Hunq is MUCH stiffer and it's immediately apparent in turns and under hard 
braking. Also, I always wished my Sam had about 1cm more standover that it 
did; I could stand flat footed (depending on the shoes) but only very 
gently. The Hunqapiller has that lil extra standover I was missing. 
Otherwise, it doesn't feel smaller than my 56 Sam at all. My setup is 
identical to my Hillborne, and so far the only consequence of the 
differences in frame geometry is that my frame pump is now too short. First 
world problems. I'll probably have more to say about how it compares to the 
Hillborne in a couple hundred miles.

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:11:55 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:

 Nice!  love the idea of a Hunqapillar, but I'm between sizes (54-58) 
 and not sure I could do the diagonal tube of the 58.  Comparison to 
 your Hillborne? 




 On Sep 23, 12:35 am, soapscum smula...@gmail.com wrote: 
  While I'm still smarting from the loss of my beloved Hillborne (long 
 story, 
  things happen, ends well), I'm more than a little consoled by the 
 addition 
  of a 54cm Hunqapillar in my life. It's built up from the parts from my 
 Sam; 
  virtually everything moved right over, right down to the Honjos (an 
 aside: 
  fenders took longer than the rest of the build all together and the 
 front 
  fender line is still a work in progress). I rode out to Golden Gardens 
 to 
  snap some pix of it's virginal purity, which if you're interested you 
 can 
  find here: 
  
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157631600410033/ 
  
  It's a lovely riding bicycle. 


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[RBW] Re: Odd question about Hunq

2012-09-23 Thread Marc Irwin

52CM Schwalbe Albert's are the largest I have tried.  I can't imagine 
needing anything larger than that.  I intend to try Nokian extremes this 
winter to play in the snow.

Marc

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:19:24 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 If anyone has experience riding the Hunquapillar off road with 60s, AND 
 riding a fatbike (Pugsley in particular) I've got questions for you that I 
 don't want to clutter up the list with. Si placet?

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Re: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread nawrock

+1 on those Aussie leather bottom slipper wool slipper socks! 

Dave Nawrocki 

Fort Collins, CO 

- Original Message -
From: Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:27:43 AM 
Subject: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold.. 

Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the Golden Years of 
Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's just 
that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold years 
before I even found the website. With that these are things I wish Rivendell 
sold still. 

Rivendell wool jersey!  Always feel like when I find one my size on ebay 
they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I feel for 
biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they make for great 
places for hiding bananas 

Aussie leather slipper wool socks  I had two pairs of these that were a size 
too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I loved them! 
But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done. When I went back 
to try to get them 

Wool Uno pocket shirt--- I remember seeing these on the website and thinking 
how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor college student. 
Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were a smart design that 
was way before their time. 

Rivendell Brooks saddle? -- I've seen these floating around the internet from 
time to time. I thought it was a neat idea. 

Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold? 

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[RBW] Re: Which bike next....?

2012-09-23 Thread ilter

Hi Tim,

I have owned a LHT for two years now.  Used it for brevets  mostly 
commuting (with 1 pannier).  I am under 170lbs.  For me, and what I am 
doing with it, the LHT is so stiff that I gradually lost interest in riding 
it.  So just a friendly warning, don`t do as I did, don`t buy it because 
all the cool kids have one :)

ilter

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:20:12 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

 I knew this would happen. I've long term/temporarily relocated to 
 Connecticut, 2-3 years, and I come back to KC every three weeks or so. 
 Therefore, since most of my time is in CT, I took the AHH and the new Hunqa 
 with me. So, I get home this weekend and have only the Cannondale, too 
 small , go fast, with 23mm tires, to ride. What a difference! Although I 
 got used to it, I know I need a more Riv-ish bike here at home. So, I'm 
 really considering a LHT. What are the opinions out there about the Surly, 
 and how does their sizing compare to a Riv? I will probably eventually get 
 a Roadeo, or a custom Riv, but I'm not ready for that investment yet, and 
 for now the LHT seems like it would be a good, comparatively low cost 
 alternative. What say you guys? Thanks.


 Peace,
 Tim


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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread AD

56cm Quickbeams!  Everything and anything Paul, Phil  White Industries. My 
bike is the one splurge and I want to eventually put a Paul crank and seat post 
on my SO. I'd love to purchase them from Riv but will probably go to Bens or 
EBay when it's time to replace them. 

Something similar to Rapha's City line or Outlier would be nice too. 

AD

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread AD

56cm Quickbeams!  Everything and anything Paul, Phil  White Industries. My 
bike is the one splurge and I want to eventually put a Paul crank and seat post 
on my SO. I'd love to purchase them from Riv but will probably go to Bens or 
EBay when it's time to replace them. 

Something similar to Rapha's City line or Outlier would be nice too. 

AD

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[RBW] FS: Bleriot 57cm

2012-09-23 Thread Christopher Murray

Hello all,

I usually post here as cm but the google-gods have done 
something-to-something and I can't post with that address now. I have a 
57cm Bleriot for sale. The bike has less than 200 miles on it. I bought it, 
spent a few years getting the parts, dragged my feet, moved from Tucson to 
Bismarck, had a baby, and bought a SimpleOne. Just never rode it much. 
Thought I would post it here before putting it on ebay.

Frame/Fork: Rivendell Bleriot 57cm
Headset: Stronglight
Stem: NItto Tech Deluxe 7cm
Hbars: Nitto Noodle 44cm
Post: Velo Orange
Brake Levers: Tektro (forget the model- basic, not fancy)
Shifters: Shimano bar-end 9 Speed
Brakes: Dia-Compe 750
Crank: Campy Mirage compact 50/34
Front derailer: Shimao Sora
Rear derailer: Shimano LX
Wheels: Velocity Dyad/ Shimano LX
Cassette: Sram 970 11-34
Tires: Nifty Swifty

The gray rubber part on the right shifter has a slit in it.  I think it 
came this way, but not sure. Other than that the bike is super- I would say 
a 9/10 easy.. The tape is Fizik and is green. No saddle or pedals. 
Everything was new when it went on the bike and works perfectly. Asking 
$1350 including shipping. I will have the bike professionally boxed and 
shipped. Of course willing to do a local sale or drive 3 hours in any 
direction (fargo, MT border). $1250 if we do a local sale.  Let me know 
if there are any questions. I can send pics to anyone who is interested. 

Thanks,
Chris Murray
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Re: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread jimD

+1
The wool jerseys that Riv sold in the past are great.
The 'Rivendell' one is my favorite. I missed out on the blue one but got the 
olive-greenish-browish one.
-JimD
Here's what I'm talk'n about:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104293211198065589843/OregonBikeRide2009#5378406639668528338

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On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:

 I'd also love a Riv wool jersey. Maybe it's racer-like, but I like keeping my 
 valuables/ID on my body and the back jersey pocket is much better than pants 
 pockets. 
 
 I missed getting the headbadge fridge magnets. I think they might make a 
 comeback at some point...
 
 Toshi
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Sackville Grid Gray question

2012-09-23 Thread Ron Mc

OK, I completed my liner for my sackville rear trunk sack.
I used a 12 x 18 x 1/4 thick minicell foam sheet, which I purchased from
salamanderpaddlegear. It cost me $5 (plus shipping and a few paddle
supplies to round out the order.
Fits like it's tailor-made, and certainly takes the slack out.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TZgdz9ImT40/UFzdYJMy3tI/ARQ/09qgC9alEB8/s1600/aP9210001.jpg

I used a piece of the leftover to make a top liner, which floats in the top
of the bag, but is quite snug when the bag is closed and will make it into
a decent cooler.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M6b8suQkQGY/UFzdYLFkD2I/ARM/PGBs01APsa8/s1600/aP9210002.jpg

A quarter-inch liner doesn't diminish the capacity, of course, the foam
compresses as needed.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6ebahyBc28c/UFzdYCAo8ZI/ARU/rsHw3pqx98Y/s1600/aP9210003.jpg

I started by measuring the bottom and cut out the blank as a cross, so that
it went together square. When I installed it in the bag, I found that the
bag is narrower at the top, so the sides of the liner were buckling inward.
I cut out the vertical seams and re-glued it, butting the ends together,
and it fit perfectly snug.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Lk0VFKSpdAo/UFzdZ2WuGWI/ARs/lVKOQVtkoZc/s1600/aP9210006.jpg

so the blank you need to cut for this is narrower at each top edge by about
1/8.

Sorry I didn't write down the dimensions, but where I started from was
measuring the bottom panel on the outside.

Got a 30-mile ride Sunday, and will take some cold beer - and water.

On Thursday, September 6, 2012 6:07:26 PM UTC-5, HighCountry wrote:

I too thought my Large Sackville rear bag lacked structure... so I simply
created a lightweight poster-board inner box for it.
I lost almost no capacity, and I kept it just small enough to allow the
bag to look normal, while still not collapsing into a non-rectangle.
Many miles on it now, and don't think about changing it.

On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 6:50:17 PM UTC-7, Amit Singh wrote:

And when you find out post the answer here.

On Tuesday, 4 September 2012 21:45:23 UTC-4, Joe K wrote:

I frankly don't know, though I have a grid gray bag as well. It's not
canvas, so I wouldn't assume you can use a canvas wax...I'd suggest
you call and ask someone at Rivendell directly.

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is it OK to use a canvas wax like an Otter's wax bar on the Sackville
Grid
gray.
I was hoping to stiffen the fabric a bit and, of course, weatherproof
it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand Numbness, an observation

2012-09-23 Thread Kenneth Stagg

Not that curious.  It's advice concerning weight on the hands, not power.  
Peter White has an excellent explanation of why this works, but he also says 
that it's not for everyone.  Personally I find it more comfortable well back 
but if I'm working harder (i.e. trying to go fast, or at least what passes for 
fast for me) I tend to slide forward some.  I will say that I've noticed the 
difference on a bike that wasn't changed except for the addition of the VO seat 
post - it took a noticeable amount of pressure off of my hands.

-Ken

On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:

 I find this advice to push the saddle back rather curious...
 
 When I built up my AHH I took this advice into account and bought a setback 
 seatpost... for a few months I wondered why I felt so slow and weak and 
 couldn't get comfortable on the bike... until one day it hit me, when I 
 shoved the saddle all of the way forward (back to where it was on a straight 
 seatpost) and suddenly I felt like I had strength and was comfortable again!  
 Problem now is that it looks funny.  Speaking of which, anybody in the Sac, 
 CA area want to trade a VO Grand Cru Seat Post, Long Setback for a straight 
 seatpost of similar quality? :-)
 
 -Rex
 
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:22 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have also struggled with hand numbness over the years.
  
 Idea #1:
 Try moving your saddle all the way back and see what happens.
 When my saddle was forward, I got numb hands. When moved further back, I got 
 aching hands.
 When shoved all the way back, my hands are now feeling more comfortable than 
 ever. Much better. Seems like barely any problems now.
  
 Other thoughts:
 Do you use a different hand position when descending than climbing? So 
 hands pressing into the bars differently?
 Is most of your weight on the pedals while descending, like a jockey?
 Do you move your behind backwards over the saddle and stretch out when 
 descending?
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[RBW] Re: Hand Numbness, an observation

2012-09-23 Thread Ron Mc

bw has a great observation - it's called median nerve entrapment.  I ride 
with my wrists straight in all positions.  The top center position on drops 
bars, which we use as a rest position, is the worst for bending your wrists 
back.  (I've gone upright with M-bars and love them).  When I find my hands 
getting tired, it's a recognition that I'm hanging on harder than I need 
to.  Simply relaxing my grip, or opening wide my fingers and thumbs is like 
a second wind for my hand.  Most of the time, it's not that tough to hang 
on.  

On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, Mojo wrote:

 Recently over on the Surly Long Haul Trucker list, there was a thread on 
 bike setup and comfort. The original poster was complaining about hand 
 numbness and most folks wrote in with the advice to raise the bars and move 
 the saddle aft to take pressure off the hands. I didn't have any good 
 further advice for the OP. But I do have an associated observation. 
 After riding low-handlebar racing type bikes from 1976-2001, I have been 
 riding more Rivendell-influenced bikes ever since, with my handlebars very 
 near saddle height and saddle now set back 1-2cm behind KOPS. I have always 
 had very minor numb hand issues. I just usually shake them out and they are 
 fine for several more miles or even hours. But I have observed over the 
 last few years that my numb hands seem to occur most often when climbing, 
 less so riding the flats, and never descending. This observation seems to 
 run counter to the idea that it is the extra weight on the hands that 
 creates numbness. 
  
 Again its just a minor problem for me. I nearly always wear gloves. My 
 bars are all thinly wrapped in cork/fake cork. My reach is fairly generous. 
 Now of course on a loop ride I will be spending much more time climbing 
 than descending and maybe the most amout of time overall riding on mostly 
 flat roads. But if the theory that more weight on the hands leads to 
 numbness, why am I not feeling it at the bottom of my descents instead of 
 on the climbs? I really don't even have an hypothesis at this point. 
 Thoughts? 


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[RBW] FS: Blue 60 cm Rambouillet $1595 + shipping

2012-09-23 Thread Eric S

Blue 60 cm Rambouillet, lightly used, excellent condition. Purchased new 
from Rivendell in 2005.

No crashes, dents or dings. Paint has a couple of very small inconspicuous 
scratches, otherwise like new.

Proper PBH for this bike is 87 - 89 according to Rivendell sizing chart 
(link below). Standover is 84.7 cm / 33.3 in.

Components – all original:

Nitto bars, stem and seatpost
Shimano XT rear derailleur, 105 front
Dura Ace bar-end shifters
Shimano 105 brakes, Tiagra levers, Tektro top-mount interrupters
Sugino triple crank
Araya rims, 105 hubs
Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy tires
Brooks saddle and MKS sneaker pedals included

Original Rambouillet brochure, with sizing chart: *
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html*http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/index.html

 

Please e-mail off-list if interested.

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: First-time bicycle assembly advice

2012-09-23 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Wow.

Man oh man oh man.You finally take a week's vacation and go camping and 
there's a moderate kerfuffle in the group.  And the distinct odor of 
umbrage.  

In the words of many barkeeps for a multitude of generations:

Gentlemen, PLEASE!

I'll paraphrase a point I've made before - in the written word, smiles and 
head nods don't come through. So much of communication is non-verbal, and 
when we distill it into a written format, it increases the opportunity for 
things to be taken the wrong way, even under the most mundane 
circumstances. Though we've grown in number, it does seem that most active 
posters in this group have maintained the core element of what makes this a 
good resource -  a respectful, supportive and polite tone in all posts.  

Now, I realize that this is a deceptively simple concept, but it also is 
the only tenet (other than topic-specificness...) which I do feel needs to 
be spelled out in the structure of this group.  It worked in the past, it 
generally works on a day to day basis and it should work in the future. 

Accusations have no place on this list.  Nor does name calling. 

 One of the reasons this group was created is to provide a venue to ask and 
receive advice.  Each of us is autonomous enough to act on advice we find 
helpful, and discard that which is not.  Nobody's trying to fool anyone 
here, and all we have is our own experiences. 

So, let's all move on.  I'm locking this thread down.

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[RBW] In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread James Warren


I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front shifting 
(and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the new cogs that 
SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42 as the largest 
one and only one chainring in the front.

You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty much have 
a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42 low would be 
very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With a 34 in front, 
the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29.

The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a pants 
guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and it's nice to 
have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication and a beautiful 
bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even better with a rear 
derailleur instead of IGH.

Such a bike would be really sweet.

-Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

2012-09-23 Thread Bill Gibson

My 24-inch gear is on every bike I ride. When I am on a grade or surface
that is beyond my category, I dismount and push. That's a good way to leave
a cyclist's ego behind. Wear comfortable walking shoes, and sometimes
sandals, on tour.

My climbing frame of mind, which works in good headwinds, too, has been
shaped by long-distance walks across deserts and plains, where I've learned
to savor details close at hand, and admire horizons which recede all day
long. I have seen landmarks appear in the morning, and remain visible all
day, until late in the afternoon. Someday, I hope to ride mountain passes
that take more than a day.

I think one real secret to good commuting and touring is collecting
roads, which Jan Heine writes about. Even more than walking, happy riding
often means finding a good cycling road or path, quiet
enough, intriguing and daring enough, long enough.



On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Hunq is about 35 lbs decked out for touring.  I carry about 20 lbs of
 gear when I am camping.
 I have developed a simple, but very scientific method for attacking the
 climbs:

 Gear down, be patient and leave your ego at the bottom.

 Marc


 On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:36:18 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 I have a hard time on hills with minimal commute loads. I probably have
 only 4lbs on the rack.

 I was thinking How do those touring riders manage?.

 I can't imagine pedalling with 40lbs. on the bike.

 How do you do it? You just have to take it slow and easy?

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?



 Thanks for the great perspectives, everyone! Lotsa velosophy to keep in 
 mind. Keep it coming.
  
 I guess I just am hooked on that feeling of breezing along. The 
 exhilaration.
  
 But I guess I have to put that aside on the hills/headwinds that are too 
 much for me, and just enjoy the climb at whatever speed I can manage 
 without overdoing it.
  

Patience, drop the ego, enjoy the climb and views. Lighten up the gearing 
on the legs. Work on lifting one foot while pressing down with the other, 
so they don't fight each other.
 
My bike came with a 36/50 crankset.
If I ever have to replace it, I think I will go for the Sugino triple with 
the 26/36/46 rings. That way I will be able to climb alot easier and keep 
spinning along.
Right now, I can just barely get by with my crankset and rear cluster on 
the hills in my area, and the headwinds of late have been tough to ride 
through.

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Re: [RBW] In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread Bertin753

Really? A 42 t cog? What sort of rear dérailleur can handle so big a one? I 
suppose that one will need the proprietary SRAM rd?

That's great news--would allow a 46/34 double with a low in the 20s.

Patrick Moore
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On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front shifting 
 (and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the new cogs 
 that SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42 as the 
 largest one and only one chainring in the front.
 
 You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty much 
 have a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42 low 
 would be very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With a 34 
 in front, the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29.
 
 The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a pants 
 guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and it's nice 
 to have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication and a 
 beautiful bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even better 
 with a rear derailleur instead of IGH.
 
 Such a bike would be really sweet.
 
 -Jim W.
 
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Re: [RBW] Headwinds bummer....need tips...

2012-09-23 Thread Bertin753

Riding fixed where the winds are pretty strong, I've learned to find a groove 
with a cadence slow enough to stay aerobic -- with a bit of experience this 
becomes natural. Basic rule: learn not to push it.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

On Sep 23, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not saying you do this but cover the speedometer.  Don't look and don't chase 
 a speed any speed.
 Just like a hill, a very long hill find a comfortable pedal stroke and go.  
 For me it's the noise of headwinds more than the effort that sucks.
 
 Kelly
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Odd question about Hunq

2012-09-23 Thread Bertin753

Even 60s are skinny for loose sand, which is why I am interested in the 
differwnce with at least 75mm tires and even compared to a fatbike.

Patrick Moore
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 52CM Schwalbe Albert's are the largest I have tried.  I can't imagine needing 
 anything larger than that.  I intend to try Nokian extremes this winter to 
 play in the snow.
 
 Marc
 
 On Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:19:24 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
 If anyone has experience riding the Hunquapillar off road with 60s, AND 
 riding a fatbike (Pugsley in particular) I've got questions for you that I 
 don't want to clutter up the list with. Si placet?
 
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Re: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Dan Abelson

The Romulus and the Rivendell t-shirts.

Dan Abelson
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On Sep 22, 2012 9:27 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Kinda sad that I missed out on what I believe was the Golden Years of
 Rivendell products. Not saying that their products aren't Golden now. It's
 just that I always end up finding Rivendell products on ebay that were sold
 years before I even found the website.  With that these are things I wish
 Rivendell sold still.

 Rivendell wool jersey!  Always feel like when I find one my size on
 ebay they go for 4 !times the original price. I like pockets on my back I
 feel for biking it's the easy accessible place to grab things. Also they
 make for great places for hiding bananas

 Aussie leather slipper wool socks  I had two pairs of these that were a
 size too big for me but I would still regularly used on camping trips. I
 loved them! But after a couple of washing the leather bottoms were done.
 When I went back to try to get them

 Wool Uno pocket shirt--- I remember seeing these on the website and
 thinking how smart it was but never jumped on it because I was a poor
 college student. Now Rapha sells one for like 80 dollars! I felt they were
 a smart design that was way before their time.

 Rivendell Brooks saddle? -- I've seen these floating around the internet
 from time to time. I thought it was a neat idea.

 Anyone else have other things they wish Rivendell still sold?


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Re: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread fulf

Boo sucker shorts, Laddie pencils, and I would like to see the jersey 
return. -Bill



  


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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Larry Powers

I too would love a new Riv wool jersey. I sent an email to Riv asking if there
would be another run and was told that Woolistic is the only one who can make
them and they have moved their production to China and Riv won't buy product
made in China.

Larry Powers

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..
From: rasterd...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:38:42 -0700
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

+1
The wool jerseys that Riv sold in the past are great.
The 'Rivendell' one is my favorite. I missed out on the blue one but got the
olive-greenish-browish one.
-JimD
Here's what I'm talk'n about:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104293211198065589843/OregonBikeRide2009#5378406639668528338

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On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:

I'd also love a Riv wool jersey. Maybe it's racer-like, but I like keeping
my valuables/ID on my body and the back jersey pocket is much better than
pants pockets.

I missed getting the headbadge fridge magnets. I think they might make a
comeback at some point...

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Headwinds bummer....need tips...

2012-09-23 Thread Bill Gibson

Airspeed, not roadspeed, is what I count. I recently got a Kestrel wind
meter off ebay, can't wait to see if I can justify my slow upwind
progress...

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Riding fixed where the winds are pretty strong, I've learned to find a
 groove with a cadence slow enough to stay aerobic -- with a bit of
 experience this becomes natural. Basic rule: learn not to push it.

 Patrick Moore
 iPhone

 On Sep 23, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

  Not saying you do this but cover the speedometer.  Don't look and don't
 chase a speed any speed.
  Just like a hill, a very long hill find a comfortable pedal stroke and
 go.  For me it's the noise of headwinds more than the effort that sucks.
 
  Kelly
 
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[RBW] Re: Grant Peterson (Rivendell) book event + ride! 9/23 ~ Naperville, IL

2012-09-23 Thread Marty



 Was able to grab a train to Naperville this morning, along with my 
 Quickbeam. Tooled around town for a half hour before the talk. Nice to say 
 Hi to Grant, but I had to catch the last train back to Chicago before the 
 group ride. They had a nice display in the window, complete with a great 
 Sam Hillborne. 


 *http://tinyurl.com/8ho66kk*
*
*
Grant gave a nice talk, and I had to smile at the title of the book over 
his right shoulder. 

*http://tinyurl.com/8dtv3f2*
*
*
Speaking of trains, this one left the station in Chicago just after I did. 
There were hundreds of photographers camped out along the route, and it 
flew through Naperville just after I got there. Very cool!
*
*
*http://tinyurl.com/8clraz5*

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

2012-09-23 Thread Michael Hechmer

Jim, this is worthy of Casey Stengel!

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:50:49 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 90% of hill climbing is half mental.

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Re: [RBW] Headwinds bummer....need tips...

2012-09-23 Thread Manuel Acosta

Invest in learning how to sing. That always works

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Re: [RBW] Headwinds bummer....need tips...

2012-09-23 Thread David T.


Hills go up, and hills go down, but the wind never pays back its debts. 




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Re: [RBW] Headwinds bummer....need tips...

2012-09-23 Thread IanA

Tailwinds

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:18:20 PM UTC-6, David T. wrote:


 Hills go up, and hills go down, but the wind never pays back its debts. 






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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

2012-09-23 Thread Matthew J

Low gears, accept it will take some time.  Try to plan your trip so you don't 
get the worst stuff near the end of the day.

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread jinxed

Yep. I will certainly add to the wool jersey wish list. Also the seersucker 
shirts...mine has gotten more use than any other button up in the closet. 
Every button has been replaced, it's been mended 4 times, lost twice, and 
travelled 8 states. Still kicking myself for not buying 2.

I'll add, although not a direct Rivendell product, the dirt drop nitto bar. 
I know some resurfaced, but I missed those. I've never tried one or even 
seen it in person, but have always been curious.

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[RBW] Fwd: Napa County Backcountry 9-23-12

2012-09-23 Thread Eric Norris

Photos from today's ride. The sights on this ride included a dam, a turtle 
(rock), some iron horses, and a buffalo. 

Pictures prove it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157631606386660/show/

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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Marc Schwartz

MUSA Railroad Shirt.PLEASE!
My most favorite all-purpose shirt,
My Matie's most favorite pyjammies

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on 
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

I too would love a new Riv wool jersey.  I sent an email to Riv asking if there 
would be another run and was told that Woolistic is the only one who can make 
them and they have moved their production to China and Riv won't buy product 
made in China.

Larry Powers

Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain

 Subject: Re: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..
 From: rasterd...@comcast.net
 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:38:42 -0700
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

 +1
 The wool jerseys that Riv sold in the past are great.
 The 'Rivendell' one is my favorite. I missed out on the blue one but got the 
 olive-greenish-browish one.
 -JimD
 Here's what I'm talk'n about:
 https://picasaweb.google.com/104293211198065589843/OregonBikeRide2009#5378406639668528338

 -
 On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:

  I'd also love a Riv wool jersey. Maybe it's racer-like, but I like keeping 
  my valuables/ID on my body and the back jersey pocket is much better than 
  pants pockets.

  I missed getting the headbadge fridge magnets. I think they might make a 
  comeback at some point...

  Toshi

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[RBW] Re: Which bike next....?

2012-09-23 Thread VeloZen



  

The Surly LHT is certainly a capable machine, no question there. HOWEVER 
... and this is a big HOWEVER ... they have the same problem as virtually 
every other mass-production model. The geometry changes with size range ... 
far too much, in my opinion. The 46cm frame has a 74.5 degree seat tube 
angle! That's insane for a touring bike that's supposed to be comfortable. 
In contrast, the 48cm Riv Hunqapillar has a 71.5 degree seat tube angle ... 
which only changes to 72 degrees in larger frames, maintaining a more 
consistent geometry for all sizes.  Of course, this really only affects 
smaller Surly frames ... regular-sized folks don't really have to worry, 
but for us small dudes, it's quite frustrating ... but yet another reason 
to appreciate Riv design.  I happen to have one of each ( a 46cm LHT and a 
48cm Hunq), and there is an enormous difference in how they feel.  I don't 
ride the LHT much these days ... anyone need a smaller touring bike?
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which bike next....?

2012-09-23 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 15:27 -0700, VeloZen wrote:
  
 The Surly LHT is certainly a capable machine, no question there.
 HOWEVER ... and this is a big HOWEVER ... they have the same problem
 as virtually every other mass-production model. The geometry changes
 with size range ... far too much, in my opinion. The 46cm frame has a
 74.5 degree seat tube angle! That's insane for a touring bike that's
 supposed to be comfortable. In contrast, the 48cm Riv Hunqapillar has
 a 71.5 degree seat tube angle ... which only changes to 72 degrees in
 larger frames, maintaining a more consistent geometry for all sizes.
 Of course, this really only affects smaller Surly frames ...
 regular-sized folks don't really have to worry, but for us small
 dudes, it's quite frustrating ... but yet another reason to appreciate
 Riv design.  

Just out of idle curiosity (as my frames are 59-60cm) what is the source
of the problem?  Would things be better if those small frames used
smaller wheels as well?




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[RBW] Re: In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread ted

I believe that yes you do need their new RD developed along with the
cassette.
Also worth noting is the 10t small cog in back and the 11 sp
spacing, ...
And a special new freehub body.


On Sep 23, 11:22 am, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Really? A 42 t cog? What sort of rear dérailleur can handle so big a one? I 
 suppose that one will need the proprietary SRAM rd?

 That's great news--would allow a 46/34 double with a low in the 20s.

 Patrick Moore
 iPhone

 On Sep 23, 2012, at 10:57 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:









  I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front 
  shifting (and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the 
  new cogs that SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42 
  as the largest one and only one chainring in the front.

  You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty much 
  have a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42 low 
  would be very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With a 34 
  in front, the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29.

  The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a 
  pants guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and 
  it's nice to have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication 
  and a beautiful bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even 
  better with a rear derailleur instead of IGH.

  Such a bike would be really sweet.

  -Jim W.

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

Others have covered the gearing, patience, mental aspect, etc.  My
contribution is  loading.  While it's not possible to eliminate the
affects of additional weight on a bike, it can be optimized by
spreading it around  keeping it low.  You need to experiment with
whatever you carry on your own bike to work it out but some loadings
work better than others.  You don't want to be wrestling 40 lbs of
gear on a 30 lb. bike at 4 MPH.  Been there, done that.

Oh, and if you think of attacking the hill:  the hill usually wins!
Plus, it may have other friends for you to climb later.

dougP

On Sep 22, 8:36 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a hard time on hills with minimal commute loads. I probably have
 only 4lbs on the rack.

 I was thinking How do those touring riders manage?.

 I can't imagine pedalling with 40lbs. on the bike.

 How do you do it? You just have to take it slow and easy?

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[RBW] Re: Headwinds bummer....need tips...

Every climb has a top somewhere, perhaps hours away, but eventually
you get there.  The wind can blow for days.  Think about riding a
relaxed 10 MPH but into a 10 MPH headwind.  It's pretty the same as
trying to ride 20 MPH.

Cross country riders often comment that they used gears crossing the
plains (Kansas, et al) that they never needed climbing the Rockies.
Wind is kinda discouraging.

dougP

On Sep 22, 8:33 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rode to church and back today. I started thinkingIs one of my brakes
 dragging? What is going on here?
 Then it dawned on me that the wind was blasting in my face on just about
 every road I was on.

 This week there have been alot of headwinds here in Maryland. Sure does
 make it frustrating. Going all out and just draggin' along.

 Anyone have any tips for tackling headwinds?

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[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar

That is so cool that everything moved right over; that will allow you
to comment directly on the differences between the two bikes.  BTW,
you may be overly concerned about the fender line.  I stared long 
hard and they look fine in the photo.  But I know things can look
different up close.

What's your front light?  And the mount?

dougP

On Sep 22, 9:35 pm, soapscum smula...@gmail.com wrote:
 While I'm still smarting from the loss of my beloved Hillborne (long story,
 things happen, ends well), I'm more than a little consoled by the addition
 of a 54cm Hunqapillar in my life. It's built up from the parts from my Sam;
 virtually everything moved right over, right down to the Honjos (an aside:
 fenders took longer than the rest of the build all together and the front
 fender line is still a work in progress). I rode out to Golden Gardens to
 snap some pix of it's virginal purity, which if you're interested you can
 find here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157631600410033/

 It's a lovely riding bicycle.

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Re: [RBW] In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread David Yu Greenblatt

http://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/family/xx1
http://www.bikemag.com/gear/first-impressions-sram-xx1/

I'm sure SRAM XX1 will work well, but the stuff will not be compatible with
any other drivetrain parts that most of us already own (including most
existing rear hubs), and the price will not be cheap.

I kind of like GP's original suggestion of shifting with a stick. Has
anybody tried that yet? An article on stick selection, modification,
on-bike carrying/storage options, shifting technique, and alternate uses
would be great for the Riv Reader or Blug.

- David G in SF




On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:


 I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front
 shifting (and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the
 new cogs that SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42
 as the largest one and only one chainring in the front.

 You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty much
 have a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42 low
 would be very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With a 34
 in front, the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29.

 The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a
 pants guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and
 it's nice to have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication
 and a beautiful bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even
 better with a rear derailleur instead of IGH.

 Such a bike would be really sweet.

 -Jim W.



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[RBW] Re: In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread Matthew J

I like 1 x set ups, but frankly am quite happy with the wide range (13 - 
34) 5 speed Suntour freewheel that I have on my road bike.  Works for me.




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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

2012-09-23 Thread Matthew J

Good point.  Tubus and Bruce Gordon make good racks that keep luggage low 
and firmly mounted on the bike.  Climbing with shifting or poorly situated 
weight can be quite frustrating.

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:06:16 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:

 Others have covered the gearing, patience, mental aspect, etc.  My 
 contribution is  loading.  While it's not possible to eliminate the 
 affects of additional weight on a bike, it can be optimized by 
 spreading it around  keeping it low.  You need to experiment with 
 whatever you carry on your own bike to work it out but some loadings 
 work better than others.  You don't want to be wrestling 40 lbs of 
 gear on a 30 lb. bike at 4 MPH.  Been there, done that. 

 Oh, and if you think of attacking the hill:  the hill usually wins! 
 Plus, it may have other friends for you to climb later. 

 dougP 

 On Sep 22, 8:36 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: 
  I have a hard time on hills with minimal commute loads. I probably have 
  only 4lbs on the rack. 
  
  I was thinking How do those touring riders manage?. 
  
  I can't imagine pedalling with 40lbs. on the bike. 
  
  How do you do it? You just have to take it slow and easy? 


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[RBW] Sackville Bar Sack

2012-09-23 Thread Blindrobert

Anyone have one they want to part with?  The F-15 rack would be nice too if 
you have one.  Will pay cash or trade for something I've gotanyone need 
a nitto saddlebag quick release still in the packaging???


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[RBW] Re: In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread Michael_S

Big cassettes/freewheels are not that new back in the early 80's I had 
a steel Schwinn Sierra, one of the 1st mountain bikes. Steel frame, room 
for 2.2 inch knobbies and a 14-38 Suntour drivetrain. It shifted pretty 
good, I recall. 

~mike
Carlsbad ca.

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:57:13 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front 
 shifting (and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the 
 new cogs that SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42 
 as the largest one and only one chainring in the front.

 You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty much 
 have a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42 low 
 would be very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With a 34 
 in front, the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29.

 The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a 
 pants guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and 
 it's nice to have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication 
 and a beautiful bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even 
 better with a rear derailleur instead of IGH.

 Such a bike would be really sweet.

 -Jim W.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Headwinds bummer....need tips...

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgano

My brooklyn loop is all tailwind going out and headwind coming home. I wish
it was the opposite because wind along the shore is easily 15mph a few
times a week. Pedaling at 6mph does give you time to think, or a Manny put
it, sing a song, Haha.
On Sep 23, 2012 7:13 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Every climb has a top somewhere, perhaps hours away, but eventually
 you get there.  The wind can blow for days.  Think about riding a
 relaxed 10 MPH but into a 10 MPH headwind.  It's pretty the same as
 trying to ride 20 MPH.

 Cross country riders often comment that they used gears crossing the
 plains (Kansas, et al) that they never needed climbing the Rockies.
 Wind is kinda discouraging.

 dougP

 On Sep 22, 8:33 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rode to church and back today. I started thinkingIs one of my brakes
  dragging? What is going on here?
  Then it dawned on me that the wind was blasting in my face on just about
  every road I was on.
 
  This week there have been alot of headwinds here in Maryland. Sure does
  make it frustrating. Going all out and just draggin' along.
 
  Anyone have any tips for tackling headwinds?

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

40lbs is an overnight for me.  I travel with a minimum of sixty and max 80 Lbs 
and have for years.
That would include my recent trip to Alaska and spending a good bit of time 
climbing on gravel.  Others also did the same.  

Now before the minamilist start yelling.  I'm not saying your way is wrong.. 
Only wrong for me.  Gearing is what makes it good.  I carry what I need and 
it weighs what it does.  So 40 lbs to me is leaving repair tools and such 
behind.  Doing laundry more often, not having a chair, iPad, extension cord, 
canned goods, Solar showers etc.  8llb 2 person tent for room, d90 camera and 
zoom... So 40 lbs to me is going across town to set up a tent and eat at the 
restaurant.

Anyway ..gearing 24x36 get my old fat arse up hills .. Candy and coffee make 
the time go by.   

Kelly

Ok getting passed by a walker was weird but good conversation. :)

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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Lynne Fitz

Woolistic is moving production to Europe.

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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgano

Let's get a pre order list then, Haha. Put me down for 2.
On Sep 23, 2012 8:33 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:

 Woolistic is moving production to Europe.

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Re: [RBW] Re: In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgano

If they made a bar end shifter for that 11 speed alfine I would be all over
it but I have used the click box before and it is so obtrusive. Alas jtek
takes their time with a product and the bigwigs at shimano has no plans to
make one.
On Sep 23, 2012 7:48 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Big cassettes/freewheels are not that new back in the early 80's I had
 a steel Schwinn Sierra, one of the 1st mountain bikes. Steel frame, room
 for 2.2 inch knobbies and a 14-38 Suntour drivetrain. It shifted pretty
 good, I recall.

 ~mike
 Carlsbad ca.

 On Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:57:13 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 I'm pretty sure that the new Riv model with no cable stop for front
 shifting (and hence no easy way to do a FD) would be a great candidate the
 new cogs that SRAM is coming out with: 11 speed cluster in the rear with 42
 as the largest one and only one chainring in the front.

 You could do 34 or 32 as your single front chainring and still pretty
 much have a lowest gear suitable for touring. With a 32 in front, the 32/42
 low would be very similar to a 24T granny combined with 32T rear cog. With
 a 34 in front, the 34/42 low would be a bit easier than a 24/29.

 The lack of large outer chainring would provide good real estate for a
 pants guard. Also, I've been riding my 1x11 Alfine QB a lot lately, and
 it's nice to have a wide gear range and no FD. Just a bit less complication
 and a beautiful bare seat tube when you look down. I think it would be even
 better with a rear derailleur instead of IGH.

 Such a bike would be really sweet.

 -Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

2012-09-23 Thread cyclotourist

Fine Italian walnut vs. California coastal oak. Please discuss.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:



 I kind of like GP's original suggestion of shifting with a stick. Has
 anybody tried that yet? An article on stick selection, modification,
 on-bike carrying/storage options, shifting technique, and alternate uses
 would be great for the Riv Reader or Blug.


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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Larry Powers

I hope that bodes well fora new jersey in the near future.

 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:33:14 -0700
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 Woolistic is moving production to Europe.
 
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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Larry Powers

Wooly Warm clothes.  My wooly warm trainner is one of my favorite jerseys.  My 
leg warmers have been repaired few times.  Any one knowwhy this was dropped?  

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RE: [RBW] Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

2012-09-23 Thread Phil Bickford

Speaking of Wooly Warm, I'd like another pair of their wool pants.  My pair has 
been through two rebuildings and could use replacement.  I know someone offered 
me theirs a while back when I was out of money.  With front pockets (they 
zipped) and one rear you could actually almost make them pass for pedestrian.

Phil B

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[RBW] OT: Advice on trailer hitch mounted bicycle racks

2012-09-23 Thread Scot Brooks

I'm going to be picking up a little Class 1 trailer hitch and bike rack for 
my Honda Fit, and I'm hoping for some advice. The hitch is easy, but the 
selection of racks is a little overwhelming, even with the reviews and all 
that.

I'm just wondering if anyone has specifically gone this route and found 
something they'd happily recommend. Thanks all!

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Re: [RBW] Nice Lugged frame on ebay

2012-09-23 Thread numbnuts

I sold the Model P because it was my second road bike and needed to serve 
as my townie/commuter/errand runner. It garnered more attention than did 
the Rom. Both were old on the iBOB list to people who knew and wanted what 
they were getting. I then bought a 1981 Miyata 610 complete and near mint 
from the city dump for $5. Made that frame get along with the stuff I 
had.. and so on. 

Regards,
Chris
Redding, Ca.

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[RBW] OT: Advice on trailer hitch mounted bicycle racks

If you get one that hangs the bike from the top tune then buy those noodles for 
pipe insulation.  I've taken scrapes out of my decals and scratched things up 
pretty good on two bikes.   

The ones that stand the bike up and have clamps for the top tube look best to 
me and I would have one except they don't come for four bikes.

The ones that clamp at the brakes on the tires are best but useless with 
fenders. 

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

2012-09-23 Thread Pondero

Perfectly refreshing, Kelly.  Finally, a bicycle tourist who is civilized 
enough to bring the niceties, and man enough to be able to haul it.



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[RBW] WTB (because I want to try) Albatross bar or cockpit for new to me Bombadil

2012-09-23 Thread Jared Volpe

Yup, I'm the proud owner of a 64cm green double top tube Bombadil. Pictures 
to come for the curious. But in the meantime I'm looking for a 
used Albatross bar or full cockpit. Currently has the Surly/Nitto 1x1 bar 
with the SunRace thumb shifters and Shimano MTB brake levers. Anyone 
looking to lighten their load?

Jared

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

Most people I know carry 50 plus pounds for longer trips.  The more isolated 
the more they carry.   At 6'5 and 230 my stuff is generally bigger and heavier 
.. Like that extra pair of size 13 shoes that just do fit in pannier. 

Not man enough or even really strong rider.. Average at best.  Set things up 
and weight isn't as bad as we are led to believe.  

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?

Kelly wrote:  Ok getting passed by a walker was weird but good
conversation. :) 

One time I was passed by a guy on roller bladesgoing uphill!
Later on the same tour I was passed on another uphill by a young lady
on a MTB with knobby tiresand her rear tire was flat (but she was
not carrying anything, and less than half my age; my story  I'm
sticking to it).

Lugging stuff uphill on a bike requires a certain humility.

dougP


On Sep 23, 5:08 pm, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 40lbs is an overnight for me.  I travel with a minimum of sixty and max 80 
 Lbs and have for years.
 That would include my recent trip to Alaska and spending a good bit of time 
 climbing on gravel.  Others also did the same.

 Now before the minamilist start yelling.  I'm not saying your way is wrong.. 
 Only wrong for me.  Gearing is what makes it good.  I carry what I need and 
 it weighs what it does.  So 40 lbs to me is leaving repair tools and such 
 behind.  Doing laundry more often, not having a chair, iPad, extension cord, 
 canned goods, Solar showers etc.  8llb 2 person tent for room, d90 camera and 
 zoom... So 40 lbs to me is going across town to set up a tent and eat at the 
 restaurant.

 Anyway ..gearing 24x36 get my old fat arse up hills .. Candy and coffee make 
 the time go by.

 Kelly

 Ok getting passed by a walker was weird but good conversation. :)

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[RBW] Re: In theory: New Riv model with new SRAM 1x11 and no FD

The Italians always do things with a certain flair; I'd like to see
their design.  Walnut or oak is a tough call.

At one point I'd installed a MTB triple on a racing bike with a double
FD,  of course the drop onto the granny was unreliable.  A simple
toe to the chain worked well as long as I planned ahead.  Not so
good if in a hurry.

IIRC, as a youth Marathon Lon Haldeman rode without a FD (it broke or
something).  He would be the expert on reliability  importance of
FDs.  Years ago, he did a story for the paper RR about an exploratory
trip to I believe Peru  I think he set the bike up as a 1 x 7 or 8
for simplicity, reliability  because that was good enough.

dougP

On Sep 23, 6:09 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Fine Italian walnut vs. California coastal oak. Please discuss.

 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 

 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

  I kind of like GP's original suggestion of shifting with a stick. Has
  anybody tried that yet? An article on stick selection, modification,
  on-bike carrying/storage options, shifting technique, and alternate uses
  would be great for the Riv Reader or Blug.

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?



 So you all are going at walking pace on hills with your bikes loaded to 
 tour?
  

Since I really don't ride with anyone, I don't know what is to be expected 
on climbs, speedwise. 

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[RBW] Any commuters here?

I have heard mention of tours, overnights, and recreational riding.
 
Does anyone commute on their Rivendell?
 
I have since about August and I really enjoy the stability on descents and 
the great handling and cush of the bike and wider tires.

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[RBW] Nifty Swiftys cracking sidewalls after only 2 months of riding. Normal?

Or unsafe?
 
Is it normal for gum/skinwalls for this to happen?
 
The bike is garage kept. Inflation kept at 75psi (max for the tire). No 
furnaces/moving air or anything nearby to damage tires.
 
Puzzled.

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[RBW] Re: How do you tourists do it?