[RBW] Re: DC Riv Dealer Figures Visually in TV Piece

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ben Boerum is the owner.  Suburban is the mindset of the opponents and 
those who use CT Ave as a commuter route.  If I said it, it was ironic.

Steve Seelig

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 3:18:42 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is awesome, been meaning to get over to Happy Go. I'm all in on the 
> CT Ave bike lanes, obviously, but calling it "suburban" is a bit of a 
> misnomer, it's entirely within DC city limits!
> Patrick in Petworth
>
> On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 1:33:03 PM UTC-4 ian m wrote:
>
>> I was in DC the weekend after the Nat'l bike summit, which my wife 
>> attended, and we rode the Capital Crescent to Rock Creek with a dedicated 
>> stop at Happy Go. The owner (whose name I can't recall) was incredibly 
>> friendly and we chatted about infrastructure and how obnoxious it is that 
>> wealthy residents oppose traffic calming or more livable streets when it 
>> would interrupt their god-given right to park in front of Starbucks. Hoping 
>> the improvements move forward! Also what a great shop
>>
>> On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 10:22:51 AM UTC-4 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>
>>> Here in suburban DC we have been battling to get a bike lane put in on 
>>> our main commuter route.  The Mayor was all in until about a month ago, so 
>>> now the City Council is standing up to her.  Basically, it would head from 
>>> the top of DC downtown as a protected lane and would be huge win.
>>>
>>> I do local advocacy and the TV reporter (yes, a cyclist) reached out to 
>>> me, I said meet me at our LBS Riv dealer, Happy Go.  I am off my bike for a 
>>> week or so, so my Platty did not make an appearance, but Happy Go did.  And 
>>> that is my head talking in favor.
>>>
>>> Link to story 
>>> <https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/bike-lanes-connecticut-avenue-bowser-ddot-dc-council/65-26bfc5b1-1bc6-4226-8254-6c4b661f8ed5>
>>>
>>> Steve Seelig
>>>
>>

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[RBW] DC Riv Dealer Figures Visually in TV Piece

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here in suburban DC we have been battling to get a bike lane put in on our 
main commuter route.  The Mayor was all in until about a month ago, so now 
the City Council is standing up to her.  Basically, it would head from the 
top of DC downtown as a protected lane and would be huge win.

I do local advocacy and the TV reporter (yes, a cyclist) reached out to me, 
I said meet me at our LBS Riv dealer, Happy Go.  I am off my bike for a 
week or so, so my Platty did not make an appearance, but Happy Go did.  And 
that is my head talking in favor.

Link to story 


Steve Seelig

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Ram $1800 with more photos

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bumping this.  My neighbor got a few bites but the frame turned out to be 
too big or too small.  Let me know if you are interested and I will put you 
in touch with the seller.

On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 11:36:26 AM UTC-4 Steven Seelig wrote:

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do I know when a saddle fits?

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

A lot of great input here.  I think I now know how individual an issue this 
can be just from the comments.

For me, just recently it has turned out that all those Brooks C17s I have 
ON ALL MY BIKEs are no longer working for me.  This may be TMI but it turns 
out that because of their shape, my sitbone locates a bit forward of the 
rear of the saddle and that causes paid for me as cocsysx bashes into the 
raises rear of the saddle.  Not really a problem if I am riding on flat 
ground.  When I do need more umps, and I push toward the back of the 
saddle, that is when I am enduring pain.  I am working with a physical 
therapist to figure out if this is because of a weak pelvic floor.

What I have discovered is that the whole saddle business is rapidly 
evolving, with such things as 3D printed saddles, men's specific Terry 
seats (from a company that made its name making women's saddles), the major 
players like Trek and Specialized have actual heat mapping that would help 
explain your hot spots - and those are just a few examples.  For me, I have 
learned that many of the newer saddle that have gaps for your dainty bits 
also have space to the rear so that your sitbone may reside on the saddle 
while the rear part of your rear may hang out back.  I am testing saddles 
with that profile and things look promising.

No, I am not selling all those Brooks quite yet - don't get any ideas.

Steve Seelig, District of Columbia

On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 2:11:57 AM UTC-4 anthony@gmail.com wrote:

> +1 for the Rivet Pearl. I've got one on a Soma Double Cross, and the 
> version with the cutout is indeed an excellent fit for several positions 
> fore and aft!
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2024, 3:25 PM ascpgh  wrote:
>
>> Emily, I have dealt with roughly your sort of physiological dimensioning 
>> my whole riding life and currently have three variations of coping, each 
>> with saddles that bear varying results. Those results have inseparable 
>> connection to how well each of the bikes they are on fits me. 
>>
>> My commuter is a stock Surly Disc Trucker "box bike". I added a Brooks 
>> B-17, pedals , Nitto RM 013 handlebar, dyno hub/ lights and a shorter a 
>> stem. The frame size that produced the best reach to the handlebars 
>> required a long  extension of the seat post and would have required a 
>> pretty high angle stem for those bars to be level with the seat, my comfort 
>> zone, and would also need significant setback dimension of the seat post 
>> head. The frame size that gives the best pedaling position requires a short 
>> stem to keep me from reaching, sort of. I still feel like I reach for the 
>> bars on that bike and do not ride it more than 20 miles. Even on the bigger 
>> size I find my legs drive me to slide back on the seat, onto the cantle 
>> (that metal thing) for many climbs before I pedal out of the saddle. Lots 
>> of compromises but it's my 14 hour lock up bike.
>>
>> My Rivendell Rambouillet was the best stock bike fit to my body I'd ever 
>> experienced and prevented me from going custom. Grant envisioned it as a 
>> long hours in the saddle sporty/light touring bike in the French 
>> audax/randonnour-inspired design for comfort over hours of riding. Shorter 
>> top tube than seat tube, with 2° upslope and 2 cm extended top head tube 
>> lug all conspired to provide this. It all conspires to fitting me well. It 
>> was a stock build kit from Riv with the B-17, RM 013 bars, I added the 
>> fenders, and changed the derailleurs, shifters and brakes. I do pedal from 
>> the saddle quite a bit more than others in groups before getting out of it 
>> and standing for hills. I still find myself sliding back on the seat for a 
>> rearward position to get some pushing forward on the pedal strokes when 
>> going uphill. That puts me on that cantle again, less than on the commuter 
>> but with the bars in more comfortable reach.
>>
>> I finally did go custom to for the sort of riding I have available and 
>> enjoy from my front door. I've refined what I look for in saddles, 
>> acknowledging that I do stay on the saddle across more terrain than others, 
>> scooting rearward for that pushing bit where others pop up, pedaling out of 
>> their saddles. That fore and aft position range has made me a connoisseur 
>> of saddle tops that have a platform of surface wide enough for my sit bones 
>> but also retaining that in the longitudal dimension of my back and forth 
>> positioning. I want that platform to be level and I don't want extra 
>> material rubbing my legs. 
>>
>> I am using a Rivet Pearl with cut out on my custom bike. The cut out lets 
>> the centerline of the leather "hammock" between the nose and cantle without 
>> the same amount of weight my sit bones applied to those spots that breaks 
>> in the points where they do bear weight. Without the cut out, that leather 
>> remains a linear high ridge from front to back where the less skeletal 
>> portions of my rear end are perched. I thought I 

Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I know a guy who would love that . . . not me.  Do you have pics or a link 
to the CL ad?

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:30:46 AM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:

> For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam listed 
> as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you want to 
> make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a complete 
> build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as the Keystone 
> afterparty. 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it out to 
>> the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My three-year-old 
>> has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross Check over the 
>> Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on two wheels. 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
>>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>>
>>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>>
>>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but will 
>>> be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If anyone 
>>> needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>>
>>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>>
>>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
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[RBW] Re: RoadeoRosa teaser

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My sister lives in the same building as David Byrne in Manhattan.  I've 
seen his bikes stored in the basement.  He definitely rides them.

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 9:42:04 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Maybe not the best, but pretty good considering that whole psycho-killer 
> business..  And the celebrity one is most likely to see on an N-YC bike 
> path! 
> So yeah, good article, better bike.
> -Kai
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 6:15:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the article, Kai.  It wasn't the best-written article I have 
>> ever read, but there is a lot of fun cultural history content in there.  
>>
>> Pink for the win!
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:57:15 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s a good bike, and a great color. The lawyer lips were lost in 
>>> transit? Or that’s a semi custom option?
>>> Here’s a great essay by David Byrne on Pink, if you’re interested- 
>>> https://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/11/byrne.php
>>> Enjoy!
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:22:34 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Rick at D tells me he'll be delivering my Roadeo frame set to 
 Rivendell HQ next week sometime.  He gave me a sneak peek at my 
 color-matched Rene Herse/Honjo fenders.  Here they are:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53519732639/in/album-72177720313109003/

 It's getting real

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dynamo gear and Nitto handlebars (SF Bay)

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm interested in the Dynamo.  I sent a PM.

On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 2:55:47 AM UTC-5 CMR wrote:

> Kite bars and Nitto rack sold, albatross bars pending.
>
> Regarding the question: I am only selling because of a lifestyle 
> adjustment. I realized 99% of my rides are a mile long and during day time 
> hours so the money might be better spent on baby food! I have a much 
> cheaper blinkie I am using to be seen. For seeing, dynamo lights are 
> unmatched, with perfect wide beams. And for longer rides I always thought 
> it was worth the price because I never had to worry about a charge, 
> especially since most lights are USB chargeable now without an easy battery 
> back up.
>
> As for the parts, I chose Schmidt because it’s a stunning and high quality 
> hub with famous reliability. I chose the lights because Rivendell and Peter 
> White endorsed them and know more about lights than I ever will.
>
> Happy to answer any other questions!
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:04:32 PM UTC-8 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris - I've been thinking about a dynamo set-up for my Homer...I'm 
>> not that familiar with the options, so just reading whatever I can find 
>> about the items you have chosen. Are you upgrading to a new system?
>>
>> I live in Napa and work in SF, so not that far from Menlo Parksd
>>
>> On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-8 CMR wrote:
>>
>>> Prices are for a local deal picked up in Menlo Park, I am half a mile 
>>> from the Cal Train station. Really hoping not to ship or split parts just 
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dynamo set up - $400*
>>>
>>> *Front wheel *Schmidt Son to Mavic Open Sport, butted spokes, all 
>>> silver in good but used condition.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Front Light*Busch and Mueller IQ-XS – silver, used 100 miles, uncut 
>>> cable length, some storage marks pictured.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/iq-xs-1?_pos=3&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rear Lights*Busch & Müller Toplight Line Brake Plus Pulsating tail 
>>> light – used 25 miles, great condition.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/dyno-rack-light
>>>
>>> Busch & Müller SecuZED Plus Dyno Tail Light for Fender, Frame or Seat 
>>> Post – looks like it might be missing a bracket, you can likely call Riv 
>>> for one, or MacGyver a threaded attachment.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/xfhz66816?_pos=2&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>>>
>>> B Saddle Rail Bracket – never used
>>> https://www.clevercycles.com/b-m-saddle-rail-bracket.html
>>>
>>> Schmidt dynamo tail light wire
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/schimdt-wire?_pos=6&_sid=8d7b3837c&_ss=r
>>>
>>> Two rear B cables
>>>
>>> Schmidt coaxial connector
>>>
>>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/lights/schmidt-coaxial-adapter/
>>>
>>>
>>> Nitto R14 – used condition, all required hardware – extra $100 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Nitto handlebars – all 3 for $200*Nitto albatross (heat-treated 
>>> aluminum) – unridden but scratched from installing it on a tight stem - $85
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-albatross-bar-cromo-55cm-x-25-4
>>>
>>> Nitto choco bar (heat-treated aluminum) – not pictured, I can send one 
>>> if interested. Ridden 200 miles, scratched from a tight stem but overall 
>>> good condition - $85
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-choco-norm-bar-alu-ht-54cm-x-25-4-100mm-sleeve-tandem-162491
>>>
>>> Nitto kite bars B355 (heat-treated aluminum) – new in package – $50
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rambouillet 54cm, Classic Blue

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sold.

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 10:05:01 AM UTC-5 Steven Seelig wrote:

> Here are some photos so folks needn't click on that link.  And the Brooks 
> seat mounted that is part of the offer.
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> IMG_0250.jpg][image: IMG_0248.jpg][image: IMG_0257.jpg]
> [image: IMG_0270.jpg][image: IMG_0254.jpg]
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>
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[RBW] FS: Rambouillet 54cm, Classic Blue

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sad to part with this Classic Blue version, but have finally realized that 
I should ride a 56cm.  And it just so happens that another customer of my 
LBS HappyGo Bikes in Washington, DC was moving on from hers.  So trading 
the blue for a dark green.  

Photos should be accessible via the link below.  Amazingly, just a fews 
fleck scratches - the color still pops.

   -  Set up as an upright with Mostache steel bars and bar end Shimano 
   shifters.  
   -  Components are basically what came with the bike, Shimano headset, 
   105 hubs, 105 front derailleur.   Newer Deore derailleur that replaced the 
   short cage 105, which I still have if your would rather.
   -  Pedals are meh - I could be convinced to offer SKS Sneaker pedals if 
   requested.  
   -  Carved Brooks Flyer saddle included.  
   
Offered for $1900.  Can ship from my LBS at your cost.  

https://share.icloud.com/photos/077BIXWT4gxqwcMZb12iG1e2g
 

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[RBW] FS: 54cm Rambouillet, Classic Blue

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sad to part with this Classic Blue version, but have finally realized that 
I should ride a 56cm.  And it just so happens that another customer of my 
LBS HappyGo Bikes in Washington, DC was moving on from hers.  So trading 
the blue for a dark green.  

Photos should be accessible via the link below.  Amazingly, just a fews 
fleck scratches - the color still pops.

   - Set up as an upright with Mostache steel bars and bar end Shimano 
   shifters.  
   - Components are basically what came with the bike, Shimano headset, 105 
   hubs, 105 front derailleur.   Newer Deore derailleur that replaced the 
   short cage 105, which I still have if your would rather.
   - Pedals are meh - I could be convinced to offer SKS Sneaker pedals if 
   requested.  
   - B-17 Brooks saddle included.  

Offered for $1900.  Can ship from my LBS at your cost.  

https://share.icloud.com/photos/06bJo7ygvLULclk4JgFzSsfGw

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Mavic Reflective Vest

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I can't help you on the Mavic vest.  My LBS carries a brand of vests from 
Belgium called  Go Fluo. 
 https://gofluo.com/product-category/sale/?v=7516fd43adaa  Happy-Go in DC 
is also a Riv dealer.  Give Ben a call and he can tell you what items he 
has in stock.  https://www.happygobikes.com/s/shop  Phone 202-481-3300. 
On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 11:42:13 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Anybody have one of these in Large? I’m looking for one in slightly better 
> condition than mine, which is losing its reflective material.
>
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

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I love that this become a worthwhile discussion about whether these darn 
great brakes would fit on your particular bike.  I used these for several 
years on my decidedly non-riv Specialized cross bike that was my 20 mile 
round trip commuter.  They worked so much better than the stock specialized 
Cantilevers  on a 32mm fendered bike.

They are now sold.

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:00:05 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This is the information I was looking for; many thanks.
>
> Nope, won't fit; at least 15 mm too short. Too bad. But the Paul cantis 
> work alright.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 6:29 AM Steve  wrote:
>
>>  Patrick, this reference lists the Minimoto as having an 83mm arm length. 
>> Compare that to the length of your current brakes.  
>>
>> https://gravelbikearchive.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/v-brake-arm-lengths/. 
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 10:40:23 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Cal, that's helpful.
>>>
>>> All: the RH site estimates 47 mm for the OR on a 21 m IW rim. I've got 
>>> Naches Passes (at 41.5 mm) under VO 50 mm fenders with ~ 1.25 mm of 
>>> clearance over the tires. 
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this more or less equals in vertical and horizontal 
>>> extension a 47 m tire?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cal Patterson  wrote:
>>>
 I've got a minimoto on the front wheel of my quickbeam, and it fits a 
 RH 700x48 knobby (oracle ridge)

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[RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The brilliance of RAGBRAI is that you can do it however you want.  Fancy 
tent set-up and more food than you'd ever eat; finding a tour that actually 
books you into someone's home; to just getting your duffel bag of stuff 
hauled by the RAGBRAI truck from town to town.  There are so many choices 
to make it's like scrolling through Amazon until you have so many choices 
you can't decide.  Think about what you want first and then focus on that.

I'll talk about the training.  I did it 6 years or so ago when I was in my 
late 50s.  I started making sure that I had a base of mileage starting 
right about now.   In DC we have few days when I can't ride, so getting in 
a base of 50-75 miles a week was doable.  For younger folks, perhaps the 
ramp up time would be less, but I would want to be doing serious training 
at least 4 months out so you can get up to 150 miles per week by the end of 
May.  For me, the training was most important so that I could learn about 
where my max heart rate would be so I could make sure that I would know 
when to back off on my pace and on the climbs.  I found this to be a key 
things to understand because the earlier you run into the red zone, the 
less you have for later in the ride.  Multiply that by 7 days of riding and 
it is something well worth knowing.  I invested in a heart monitor for 
training but did not need it for the ride itself.

Weight training is helpful for those bike specific muscles other than your 
legs.  Not huge weights or anything, but getting in several sets on your 
non leg muscles will be a big help.  I also focused on deadlifts for more 
power in my riding.

Another thing you must train for it riding in the heat.  A buddy of mine 
who lived in Florida where, of course, there were no hills had things 
pretty dialed in because he had trained in the heat.  So this is something 
that you can't really do until late May and June, which is when I might 
focus on longer rides in the heat that challenge your body to get used to 
sweating and replenishing your fluids with whatever works.  It was Gatorade 
for me.  

One thing that surprised me quite a bit was actually how many fancy bike 
racers were seriously challenged by the long, rolling hills.  I rode my 
non-Riv road bike with an 11-34 rear cluster and a compact front crankset. 
 So almost inevitably, the fancy Dans would come speeding down the prior 
hill and started hammering up the next hill.  But these were rarely hills 
where you could just hammer and crest the top.  They are rolling like mile 
or 2 mile climbs.  So the plastic bikes rode fast for the first third of 
the climb and then I would pace past them.  Not because I was a stronger 
rider but because racing bikes are typically not geared properly for 
sustained climbing.  My way of saying that a well geared Rivendell is a 
much better choice for the ride.

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 8:02:11 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> Not sure why you'd want to go through the trouble to travel all the way 
> over to the Western end of Iowa for this ride particular ride given the 
> distance to get there, the logistics, accommodation issues and the sheer 
> mass of riders (some of whom seem to like to stop at every bar along a 
> portion of a daily route until they're so inebriated that they crash into 
> trees, etc., vehicles that have run over cyclists in sleeping bags, etc.) 
> just for the notoriety when you could enjoy a multiple number of great 
> rides right in your own backyard, so to speak.  Have you considered 
> https://lmb.org/events/ride-calendar/?
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 6:47:36 PM UTC-6 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>>
>> I took the opportunity to ride the first day of RAGBRAI last summer. I 
>> live in eastern Nebraska. I happened to be off that weekend, heard it was 
>> starting that weekend and that it was the 50th anniversary of the ride. Had 
>> always thought of doing at least the first day, but never took the 
>> opportunity to look into it and would find out the morning of when local 
>> news would do reports on it. I took the opportunity. I enjoyed it, even if 
>> I tried to bite off too much in the process. I think if you are going to do 
>> the whole thing you best look at the dates and locations and figure out 
>> hotel/motel stays now. It is not a race, but definitely get conditioned for 
>> the heat, humidity and hills before hand. My plan was to ride to the second 
>> to last city location and double back in order to get in a century. I fell 
>> short of that and wished I would have just rode to the end city and called 
>> it a day. First day miles to the end city was 77. I estimated I did about 
>> 64 miles in my attempt to ride back to Sioux City. Sag truck ended up 
>> taking me to Storm Lake, IA where and I ended calling out a mayday to a 
>> friend to pick me up and get me back to Sioux City to my car. 
>>
>> I rode my Rivendell Mountain because I felt it would be the most 
>> comfortable with it's Softride 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimoto Brakes $225 - I have a pair to sell also!

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I feel like yes.  The issue for them was that they grabbed the outer sides 
of the fenders, which were several centimeters higher than the tires 
themselves.  But some 48s may be really 48s with knobbier and some may be 
closer to 45s.  My experience was with 45 plus fenders and the fenders 
needed to bend in because the higher part of the arms hit them.

Others may be able to weigh in.

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:41:39 AM UTC-5 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Do we think these might clear 48s without fenders then, or a bridge too 
> far?
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2024, at 8:26 AM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Mine are the black version.  They work great and I did find that once 
> dialed in, which did take some time, they were great with a nice linear 
> response.  However, can't use them on my Platy with 45mm tires AND SKS 
> fenders.  Well, I can, but then the fenders bend every time I brake.
>
>
> Same price for the pair - $225 shipped in US.
>
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It is amazingly epic and not like anything else, ever.  

I've done it twice with my son on a tandem back when he was 8 and 9 years 
old.  First year, pouring rain and a sparse crowd.  While freezing, we made 
it to the 4th borough before bailing and taking the Brooklyn Bridge back to 
Manhattan.  For that one, we were up near the front when starting, which is 
key f you can get there to start.  We were never colder in our lives 
although my then 8 year old son was still not as miserable as he could have 
been - we were on a bike, after-all.

The second year, we were back in the pack and the experience was still 
great, but different as we got onto the highways, where traffic did back up 
as it would with 30K cyclists crammed into a 3 lanes road.  Also, there are 
all sorts of folks who are riding, some want to go fast at all costs, some 
are meanderers, others are just not ready to ride 40 miles.  Just smile and 
look at all the interesting people and bikes as you are queued up.  Meet 
friends.  Ring your bell.  Count the Rivs you see.

The portion you reach in Brooklyn when you get on the highway ends up being 
a revelation for a lot of riders, and not in a good way.  The road just 
opens up and it becomes clear that a long ride is ahead on a highway for 
the last several miles.  The wind will invariably be in your face then. You 
see a lot of riders who then are questioning their life choice because the 
road is really so imposing then.  And at some point, you see the Verrazano 
Bridge and it seems like the end is near.  It is not.  But once you get to 
it, and climb to the center and do the downhill ride to the finish, it is a 
great feeling.

Once done, there will be some time to get back across to Manhattan on the 
ferry.  Save food for this part of the journey.

On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
> decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>
> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I won't 
> be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be there for 
> a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
> where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>
> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>
> Mike M
>

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I replaced a Brooks Flyer Curved on my Xtracycle now Bafang E-bike that is 
about as upright as it gets.  Agree that at first I wasn't sure where this 
part of my sit bone connected to that part of the saddle.  After a few more 
rides, I simply forgot it was on the bike at all.  Given that with e-bikes 
you are constantly shifting the assist and the 9 speed derailleur to hit 
the perfect sweet spot, and I ride in City traffic, perhaps I was not as 
in-tune as i would be on a quiet country road.  I prefer it to the Brooks 
and don't miss the absence of the spring in the least.  

My experience is likely comparing persimmons to cumquats for someone riding 
unupright on an analog bike.

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:53:12 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

I have it on my Platy currently. It replaced a Selle Anatomica H2 (at least 
for the winter). The SA was a tad too narrow since I swapped to slighly 
more upright bars. I haven't yet decided if the Riv saddle is too wide (by 
1-2cm).  I don't really care for the wide nose of the Riv saddle, but I 
suppose I'll get used to it. I do like the flat shape and the amount of 
padding (minimal). It's good for a more upright ride due to the width.  I 
may use it on my wife's bike to swap out the Bontrager commuter saddle 
(wide).  When viewed from the side, the Bontrager commuter saddle has 
shoulders that slope down where the Riv saddle is a flat profile. We both 
prefer saddles that have a flat profile.  I've also ridden a VO wide 
touring saddle and the Riv saddle is wider both in the nose and the rear.

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Re: [RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Agree with lconley about the entire resource issue compared to owning a 
car.  I would also say that I have just about one bike for each decade of 
my life, with some of them old enough to have been purchased in said 
decade.  The reality is that these bikes are a small bop in my impact on 
the planet compared with the very real impact of my doing a lot of other 
things, like driving to Costco and buying stuff flown in or driven to the 
store, throwing out all of the packaging, charging my EV car.  I don't feel 
very guilty when I take my unused parts or old bicycles to Gearing Up 
bikes, who trains kids to be bike mechanics refurbishing the frames and 
parts I brung them. 

On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 9:58:06 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> In order to achieve a true “Fellowship” of Rivendells, the number would be 
> 9. 慄‍♂️
>
> On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:46 AM, lconley  wrote:
>
> Of all the things in life that I feel guilty about or fret over, owning 
> too many bikes is not among them. There is maybe 250 total lbs of steel 
> among all of them, 750 lbs of of material total. If you own an average 
> American pickup truck or SUV, you have consumed more resources than me and 
> a Honda and all of my bicycles. The current total is 23 (10 Rivs), 25 (11 
> Rivs) if I include my wife's. I am down from 30+. My longest owned is a 
> 1973 production Paramount P-15 that I purchased new in December of 1975. I 
> haven't bought a bike/frame in almost 3 years. My current goal is to get 
> down to 15 or less - at that point all of them can be hung on the walls of 
> the garage (except for my wife's recumbent trike) so that I can get the 
> rowing sailboat into the garage and out of the storage unit.
>
> Thinning the herd is difficult. I find it easier to give away bicycles 
> that to sell them for some reason, but I am running out of bikes that I 
> will give away.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 7:14:29 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> John, a breath of fresh air. Steve
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 9:33 PM John Rinker  wrote:
>>
>>> At the risk of taking this discussion in an unintended direction and 
>>> opening a can of worms that, in my mind, has been opened for quite some 
>>> time now, I find this question of how many bikes one ‘needs’ to be an 
>>> interesting one to consider from a variety of perspectives. (Full 
>>> disclosure: there are currently 7 bicycles in my shop- 3 of mine, 2 
>>> belonging to my wife, and one is my daughter’s. There are also two very 
>>> nice frames). 
>>>
>>> Considering this question from the perspective of our current resource 
>>> crisis - you know, the one in which there are too many humans desiring too 
>>> many things that our planet has too few resources to sustain- helps me to 
>>> greatly appreciate the bicycles I do ride, but also causes me question if 
>>> my ownership of any more than one bike contributes to the imbalance of 
>>> desires vs. resources. Anyone else bothered by this?
>>>
>>> Another perspective through which I look at this question of ‘how many 
>>> bikes does one need’ comes from my many years of living in developing 
>>> countries in Africa and Asia where the ownership of a single bicycle can 
>>> have significant ramifications for a family in terms of economics and 
>>> education. In many of these places, that there would be one bicycle for a 
>>> family of 7 (or more) would be considered a luxury. And so, to ask myself 
>>> how many bicycles I *need *causes me to cringe slightly and immediately 
>>> takes my mind down the road of resource distribution and equity.
>>>
>>> Finally, as an educator, I’ve always made it a point to help my students 
>>> understand the difference between *needs* and *desires, *and the 
>>> implications of each on our habits of consumption. Of course, in the 
>>> context of this group and this particular thread, I’m well aware that we 
>>> all agree that we are speaking about our desires rather than our needs, but 
>>> still, it’s another perspective from which to come at this question.
>>>
>>> I’m sure there are other perspectives that might make this consideration 
>>> interesting and, of course, remind us all how fortunate we are to own and 
>>> ride so many lovely bicycles. 
>>>
>>> I know, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition! (Monty Python anybody?)
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 5:53:28 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>>>
 The problem is, there is always justification for another bicycle, like 
 the relatively new bikepacking designs (Jones Bikes for example) which 
 also 
 do a very good job of displacing conventional touring bikes. Or a foldable 
 Brompton, just because. Then there is sentimentality, like my beloved 
 Marinoni which  has taken and continues to take me on so many  touring 
 adventures, but which I would not be shopping for if looking today as I 
 want ever more tire clearance from a frame. Then there is the poor, abused 

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bikes in order of use:

   1. Brand new Platypus for City riding
   2. Spectrum titanium road bike (frame fabricated by Seven) for clipped 
   in rides and longer road tours
   3. Rambouillet for more spirited city rides.
   4. Sam outfitted as a gravel bike for country rides
   5. Xtracycle cargo bike with a large aftermarket Bafang 1,000 watt motor 
   for shopping.
   6. Brompton for train and plane travel and occasional last mile rides if 
   driving to a big car traffic event
   7. 1986 Look Bernard Hinault Reynolds 753 steel bike.  Same frame as the 
   ones he a Lemond rode in the tour when the badger would not let Greg usurp 
   his team leadership and claim the Yellow Jersey.  


On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

Bikes in order of use

   1. Joe Appa daily driver
   2. Raleigh sprite vintage fixed for variety in commute
   3. 90's GT avalanche for occasional MTB'ing
   4. Dahon boardwalk guest bike I will occasionally use
   5. Vintage Schwinn tandem for occasional fun ride. Kickback 2 speed

Apparently I have too (two) few bikes!

Edwin



On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:45:16 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:

Hi all,
I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with 
justification. I think it was 7.
 Any idea which reader it was in?
Thanks!
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI

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[RBW] Re: Platypus questions

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Doug,

My PBH is a little higher than yours.  I just got a new Platypus, well last 
Fall, and followed Riv's advice in getting the 60cm size along with pretty 
long reach Nitto Loscoe handlebars.  Looks like the photos here: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021

My experience is that I sometimes step through to get on the bike, but it 
is sorta hard to do that think where you take your leg as you are about to 
dismount while riding and slide it through in front of you to get both feet 
on the ground.the gap .  The frame is just a bit too high for that.  I 
compare that to my first generation Xtracycle long tail, where I have to 
dismount that way because if I swing my leg around I would kick my kid or 
any cargo quite inelegantly.  

As for mounting the bike, or getting off once stopped, there is still an 
extra bit of leg lifting to do.  So I think Kim is onto something here with 
the Clem.

Steve Seelig, Wash, DC

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
> - Matt
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable frames. 
>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging my 
>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>
>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
 the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
 best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 

 The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
 doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, 
 I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
 shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too far. 
 Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
 back 
 bars.

 Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
 think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
 fantastic 
 is you're in southern California.

 Doug Peterson 
  

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi there Eric.  We just found a beautiful farmhouse to renovate that seems 
close to where this ride took place.  We are in Facquier County near the 
town of Orleans and can attest that for any ride, forecast 100 feet of 
climbing per mile.  I am interested in knowing more about your route, 
understanding that you did much of it by feel, and not via Strava or 
RidewithGPS.  Similarly, I can attest that using the same triple you 
formerly employed on your Sam gives me all the gearing needed, but does 
cause me to do a LOT of awkward shifting.  You solution with the compact is 
intriguing particularly since there is often little need for the higher 
gears on the large chainring - there are really no gradual hills out here; 
its either up or steep down.

When you write such a great piece it should be expected people will want to 
replicate it.  Thanks for doing it.

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Shenandoah Foothills
> 47 miles, 5,380 feet
> Clear. Low 60s in the morning, warming to the high 70s, humidity at 50% 
> and below. 
>
> August in Virginia is typically a warm and uncomfortable month with 
> average temperatures in the mid 80s and often creeping into the upper 90s. 
> Humidity is unpleasantly high as well. The past few weeks were particularly 
> oppressive with humidity averaging around 70% (and often much higher) and 
> temperatures reaching the 90s most days. These temps have forced the smart 
> riders to depart at first light, drenched to the bone before 8AM. 
>
> We had a break from all of that this weekend with temperatures dipping 
> into a realm of unseasonable deliciousness. Low humidity, a cool morning 
> starting in the high 50s and a max temperature around 80º had this Saturday 
> looking too good to pass by unridden. 
>
> I recently swapped out the drivetrain on my Hillborne. I had been running 
> a Sugino XD2 with a 48/36/24, a Shimano 11-36 9-speed cassette, a plain 
> silver Shimano Ultegra front mech and a Shimano Deore XT M771 rear 
> derailer. These worked just fine but I found the chainrings left me 
> shifting at awkward intervals and I'd been wanting to try a compact double. 
>
> So I changed in a SunXCD crank with 42/26 chainrings from TA Specialites 
> purchased from Jitensha Studio in Berkeley. Because I found the Shimano 
> mechs were too ugly for my liking I sought out a Suntour Cyclone GT rear 
> and a Cyclone front derailer. These lovely workhorses seemed more 
> appropriate for the bike. I installed one of the new S-Ride 7-speed 
> cassettes from Soma Fab Shop, made with input from Rivendell. The movement 
> and tooth capacity of the rear Cyclone didn't agree with a 9-speed 
> cassette. And I swapped my MKS XC-III bear-trap pedals for MKS Sylvan 
> Gorditos specified by Crust. The bear-traps were uncomfortable for my very 
> wide feet.
>
> A friend sent me a used set of Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires in the 
> extralight casing, which I hadn't tried before. I'd been running the same 
> in the standard casing for about a year. The new-to-me tires were buttery 
> smooth and I had no issues or flats during my ride. 
>
> Lately I have been enjoying Jobst Brandt's alpine tour reports with 
> sensational views, grand distances and unfathomable amounts of climbing. 
> I've also been reading Ray Hosler's collection of diaries from riding with 
> Brandt around the Santa Cruz Mountains in the 1980s. So inspired I made up 
> a route for myself that incorporated a few tough climbs on some of my 
> favorite roads. The length and elevation gain of my route doesn't compare 
> to their marathon rides.  
>
> From the start I began a three-mile climb over loose, unpaved road with 
> sections pitching up over 16% grade. I enjoy the challenge of making this 
> climb in one go but there is a shoulder with a wide mountain view that I 
> always end up stopping for. Pedaling up the climb, and some of the steepest 
> stuff I know, was manageable with my new gearing. I enjoy dumping the chain 
> from the 42-tooth to the 26-tooth ring when the going gets going. 
> Throughout the ride I had appropriate gearing to make it through without 
> much trouble. 
>
> [image: 20220813A 03.jpg]
>
> At the top of this hill, at an elevation of 1,300 feet, I took a rest for 
> some water. Though I had ridden fewer than four miles I decided to have 
> half of the sandwich I'd packed: peanut butter, banana, honey, coconut 
> flakes and salt on sourdough bread. As a fat burner I was worried how the 
> carbohydrates would treat me and concerned they would occasion bonking, 
> which I don't experience on rides. My engine runs best when I don't eat 
> bread, sugar, grain and the rest but I'd been craving a sandwich like this 
> for weeks. It was a pleasure and I suffered no ill effects. 
>
> As I started on my descent, my shirt damp with sweat, I was reminded of 
> how lovely the weather was. The air was cool and comfortable. Such a gift 
> and a relief from the weather 

[RBW] Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that I 
haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge too 
far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I can 
at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride in 
the means streets of DC and on some gravel.  

I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a competent 
wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once for the 
first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds for 
success?  Will I quit in frustration?

Points of view encouraged.

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[RBW] Re: Locking Up your Riv

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A second for the Granit X Plus.  I live in Washington DC and use it along 
with Pitlocks on my Ram and with the Abus locking skewers on my Sam.  It is 
heavy-ish, but I'm not racing.

I also have an Otto Lock for my racy bike when I lock it up for a few 
minutes.  I could see using the 3 foot Otto on a front wheel and the Granit 
X on the rear and dispense with the axle locks.

On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 4:05:48 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:04:50 AM UTC-7, Vincent Tamer wrote:
>>
>>
>> What do you all use in the various conditions that you lock your bike up 
>> in?
>>
>
> I have a handful of nice locks as I've been trying them out, but I 
> eventually settled on the Abus Brodo, although mine is the burly Granit 
> X-plus variant. I like it because it is secure (lock mechanism was 
> well-reviewed by TheLockPickingLawyer 
> ), it is 
> compact when not in use, and it works well enough for locking my Wilbury up 
> at local grocery stores, Target, and such. I like it so much that I got my 
> son an identical one for his new-to-him Atlantis, that he rides to and 
> locks up at school. Note that I've equipped the bikes that get locked up 
> with Pitlocks , security 
> bolts , and strategically placed ball 
> bearings locked in with beeswax, so the locks are only used to secure the 
> frame to whatever immovable object.
>

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[RBW] PSA: Rivendell Sam Hillborne 56cm - $950 (Kensington) DC CL

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When looking at the sweet Betty Foy on DC CL, I saw this: 
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/d/kensington-rivendell-sam-hillborne-56cm/7024964694.html

Missing pedals and chain.  Too big for me.

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[RBW] Re: Seeking Washington DC bike shop

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Golly gosh, such a hard question that should be easy.  It is all about the 
interactions between ownership and the mechanics.  I spoke with a local 
owner last week, and he seemed to think that mechanics are commodities that 
are interchangeable.  I happen to think not, but the fact of the matter is 
that the job does not pay all that well and some owners think they can have 
a young person with little bedside manner doing the wrenching, since it is 
just a commodity.

Bicycle Space downtown is no more, and that is where I ALWAYS took my 
bikes.  I like the owner and the mechanics were crusty and honest.  They 
are now just in Ivy City and I don't really know who is left.

The Bike Rack is downtown and seems to have great mechanics, but I have a 
palpable dislike for the owner, so I don't go there.  They seem to win 
awards for best bike shop each year, so worth a try.

When it comes to servicing my older bikes, the Bicycle Pro Shop always has 
parts in stock and very good mechanics who were nice to me.  I also had 
some success with the Conte's in Ballston, depending on who did the 
wrenching.

On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 3:48:19 PM UTC-4, Wilson Wilson wrote:
>
> Paul, who did you speak with at Proteus? Reason why I ask is that just 
> sounds like an odd time. I would like to contact them as I recommend them 
> first in the area as to why this would happen. I wear their jersey on my 
> cycling adventures.

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[RBW] Re: Make my AHH look less tempting!

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Philly Bike Expo  is coming up on Nov 2 
and 3rd, and for the past 2 years there's been a fella who gives a seminar 
each hour on bike locking and other safety tips for folks who ride on the 
mean streets of Philly.  He's very entertaining, and goes through all the 
things to think about in choosing a locking location, how to lock the bike, 
the benefits of locking wheel skewers, you name it.  Not a direct answer to 
your question.

My son who is now 10 and I have attended the past two years to listen to 
his presentation.  Our favorite is when he describes folks on the street 
who might be up to no good when you are cycling by as a single cyclist.  
His advice when you come close to those folks is to turn around and yell 
"Hey, Tommy," to give the impression there is someone else following you so 
you're not as easy a mark.  By the time you've ridden by, it's too late for 
them to figure out that Tommy ain't behind you.

So every now and then, when I'm out riding with my son, I yell "Hey Tommy," 
and he gets a good laugh.

Regardless of whether he's there, the Expo is fantastic and well worth 
checking out.  

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 3:04:00 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Evening all-
>
> I'm interested in some group brainstorming. I recently moved to a 
> university area where I'm told there is a high incidence of bike theft. 
> (Granted this is a town in the UK and I just move here from Philadelphia, 
> so perhaps I should take that claim with a grain of salt). Nevertheless, my 
> AHH will shortly arrive here via Bikeflights. 
>
> I'm a firm believer in riding my 'good bikes' anywhere and everywhere, but 
> I don't want to tempt fate. So I'm looking for ideas: how could I make my 
> Hilsen look less desirable to opporunistic British bike thrives? It's brown 
> and has albatross bars so it already looks a bit like an old British beater 
> to the uninformed. But all brainstorming welcome! I was thinking lots of 
> stickers and a bit of thoughtfully-smeared dirt.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Anyone Else Having Trouble With RBW Group Access on Chrome?

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not only can I claim to being just a passable bike mechanic (doesn't stop 
me from creative wrenching), I am just above being a Luddite when it comes 
to internetty things.  Am I the only one having trouble in Chrome accessing 
the RBW Group?  I can access all my other groups just fine in Chrome, and 
obviously I'm not shut out from posting this in Safari.  Just wondering if 
its me only.

Steve Seelig

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo on Cycle Greater Yellowstone 2019

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Hi Max,

Since nobody else replied, I wanted you to know that you've inspired me to 
check out this ride next year.  The photos cinched it.  I'd be doing it 
most likely on my S coupled Spectrum Ti bike rather than a Riv, mostly 
because I can pack it into a suitcase for airline travel.  My Ram is an 
option also, and although it has a triple chainring it is outfitted with 
Albastache bars and I think (know) I'd want to do this with a drop bar. 
 There's also the notion that lotsa shifting is better done with a brifter.

So here's the big q: is this ride doable without a granny gear using my 
compact double.  If forced to ride out of the saddle for an extended period 
I don't think that adds to a pleasant day.

Any advice based on what others on the trip were using?

Steve Seelig

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 1:31:19 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Hi RBW -
>
> Posted a flickr album of this ride, the Cycle Greater Yellowstone ride, 
> for benefit of the Greater Yellowstone Coalition.
>
> We did about 240 miles over 5 days of riding, 22k climbing.  I rode my 
> Roadeo - always love riding that bike.
>
> Beautiful scenery in Red Lodge, MT; Absarokee; Yellowstone River, Sunlight 
> River and Bridge; Beartooth Pass and Chief Joseph Highway.
>
> The Greater Yellowstone Area around Montana and Wyoming is really lovely. 
> I can't say enough about the scenery, mountains, and good condition of the 
> roads.
>
> Beartooth Pass was hard, but worth it.  The pass tops out close to 11,000' 
> - - I haven't climbed like that since the Markleeville Death ride 8 or 9 
> years ago.
>
> Pics here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157710643614821
>
> I rode my Roadeo, with a mostly Campagnolo drive train, aided and abetted 
> by a Shimano Deore 737 triple (22-34-44), which was essential to getting 
> over some of those passes. I don't wear that Fat Cyclist jersey for 
> nothing...
>
> best,
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Pedal click driving me batty

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I recently had a super annoying click on my the titanium bike I'll be 
riding at RAGBRAI.  I reconnected the pedal with lots grease and still have 
the issue.  I didn't think the sealed bearing Shimano SPD pedals were the 
culprit. 

I mentioned this to a rather nice mechanic, who asked me it it was clicking 
when I was standing off the saddle, and I said no.  So we thought it might 
be the Brooks B-17 saddle I use, it being all floppy and such with the 
missing middle.  So I tightened the leather on it and the clicking remained.

Turns out, it was the seatpost connection that was doing the clicking.  
Something about the titanium on the Thompson seatpost, or the seatpost 
connection itself.  Slathered everything up with some (mountains of) grease 
and the clicking is now gone.

Steve Seelig, DC

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 1:57:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Rhea wrote:
>
> Reaching out in case y'all have any remedies for this phenomena...
>
> So many times I've used a pair of pedals for a while, and then they start 
> making a little click 1x per pedals stroke, usually when putting pressure 
> on the RH pedal. I'm pretty sure I've isolated the click to the pedals 
> themselves, throwing on a new pair and the clicking ceases.
>
> Pedals where I've experienced this phenomena (going back historically):
>
> Sealed-bearing types:
> Thin gripsters (
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001
> )
> Velo Orange Sabot pedals (
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/pedals/products/grand-cru-sabot-pedals
> )
>
> Traditional bearing / cone type:
> MKS Sneaker pedals (
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/mks-rmx-sneaker-pedals
> )
> MKS Touring pedals
>
> I don't have access to a bench vise otherwise I would have just cleaned 
> and re-packed the loose ball ones.  I suppose I could get a new bearing set 
> for the Sabot pedals (which I'll likely try).
>
> Am I missing something else that could be causing this click? Open to 
> hearing any possible remedies for this, short of exorcism
>
> Thanks (in advance),
>
> -br
>
>
>

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[RBW] PSA: Made in USA 64cm Atlantis on DC Craiglist

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Seeing as these are desirable to denizens of this Board, here is the linky: 
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/d/washington-64-cm-rivendell-atlantis/6903209256.html
  
Way too big for me.

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Re: [RBW] It is summer: updated sandal discussion?

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I'm mostly an urban rider with sandals, so my rides are more like 20 miles 
and under.  I'm a big fan of these Keen Arubas 

 because 
they have no back strap to chafe.  Since pedaling without clips is pretty 
much a forward motion, having just the front part as coverage, and pretty 
solid coverage at that, works well for me.

I tend to wear these all the time during summer.  I would say the tread 
lasts a year or so.  After awhile the mid part of the sole tends to get 
softer and softer so that when you step on a rock you can really feel it.  

Steve Seelig, DC

On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 11:54:40 AM UTC-4, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> I still wear Tevas. Based on the suggestions (Bedrocks and Chacos so far), 
> I'd opt for the Chacos with no toe loop. I generally wear socks with 
> sandals (yeah, I know), especially on long rides where the straps can rub 
> on skin and create problems. With that bit between my toes socks would be 
> out, unless I switched to tabi style socks (with a toe)...which is a 
> thought.
>
> The Tevas I use tend to last a couple of years. They'd probably last 
> longer if I didn't wear them for everything else as well...which reminds 
> me...I need to order a new pair.:-)
>
> Aloha!
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 5:23 AM Neil Doran  > wrote:
>
>> Just read the thread from 2014 - 2016...is it time for an updated sandal 
>> discussion?
>>
>> It's officially summer here in the low foothills, and I'm back to riding 
>> in sandals. My 3-year-old Chacos (with toe loop) are still going strong, 
>> and at this rate they may never die, but I really don't care for the toe 
>> loop.
>>
>> One option is new Chacos without toe loop (had 'em, loved 'em, took about 
>> 10 years to disintegrate). 
>>
>> Also been eyeballing the Bedrock units for a couple o' years now...kinda 
>> like that I could go check them out in person in Richmond and try 'em all 
>> on. They look thinner (and lighter) than Chacos (good!), but wondering if 
>> the toe thong might bug me as much as the Chaco toe loop.
>>
>> What are people wearing these days? My ideal use is on the bike and 
>> around town...bonus points if they would be good for wet-wading while 
>> fishing, and especially if they were light enough to act as camp shoes 
>> while backpacking (I find the Chacos weight-prohibitive for this purpose).
>>
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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

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Patrick, you brute.  Perhaps the major users of the Rinko MKS are not, 
shall we say, as aggressive in their application.  Though the very idea 
that a pedal can come off without a pedal wrench is so enticing.  

Steve Seelig

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 8:39:16 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> One lad's (my) experience with the Rinko MKS Urban pedals is that within a 
> few months of fixed gear mountain riding I destroyed the attachment bearing 
> so there a large amount of play in the pedal. Standard MKS Urban pedals 
> have held up to a considerable amount of abuse and I am using them on my 
> Gus Boots Willsen as adventure pedals (with MKS toe cage). At least for the 
> riding and torque I love my pedals with, I would just remove my pedals if 
> needed via the allen wrench. Quick, easy, painless. (Worth noting: MKS was 
> great on replacing the pedals ... excellent customer service!).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

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As OP, it is so cool what happens when you spend time away from the 
keyboard.  The goal here is to walk on with the bike, stuff it in the front 
part of the car on the top shelf, get off the train and ride away.  So no 
bike box.

I'm familiar with Amtrak east coast bike transit, and they are very fussy 
about which trains can load bikes.  It is basically the through trains like 
the Vermonter that have a bike car that is combined with the baggage car, 
so it you do it once a year like Bob K, and plan way in advance, it works. 
And those trains have odd hours and at most 4 bikes per train.  Most trains 
don't have em.  Hence the question.  I will say that if you want to take a 
train to Baltimore from DC, every MARC train now has bike hangers, probably 
much like on the West Coaster.  Baltimore is great, "prettiest place on 
earth", but I want more (pun sorta).  Check out Streets of Baltimore 
 by Gram Parsons.  So sad.

Bromptons are great.  We rented them in London - got em out of a box at the 
train station.  But I am at bike limit with wife and all.  To digress, when 
I told her I was getting a tandem bike for me and junior, she fatefully 
asked me the wrong question: "where will you put it."  "the garage has 
plenty of room," I said, and "you only get one question and you neglected 
to ask if I really need another bike."  She probably won't make the same 
mistake twice.

Steve P, right you are about the fender issue.  I'd need to get rid of the 
plastic SKS and get metal ones.  I have the cable disconnects on my S 
bike and like those fine.  They never seem to get out of tune for shifting 
and brakes are less finicky and work.  

Sounds like the major investment would be the headset and the removable 
pedals - thanks for the resource recommendations on those that I am 
checking out now.  Great to have so much knowledge (and opinions) in one 
spot.

Steve Seelig



On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:10:01 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Wow, Ana! Fantastic. Tips for convincing them to let me do this should I 
> ever need it?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This is where Bicycle Quarterly and Rivendell come together. 

I'm sure many of you are Bicycle Quarterly readers, like me.  I love 
reading especially when their travels involve a Rinko'd bike when they take 
the Japanese bullet train to some far off part of the country and snap the 
bike together once they get off the train - viola.  But those bikes seem 
built specifically for that use, and there is little chance my wife is 
going to let me head to Japan and purchase a custom built one for my use.  
But I am intrigued since I live in DC and Amtrak to other cities actually 
is doable.

BTW: I already have a non-Riv S coupled Spectrum bike that I take on 
plane rides, but that is pain to pack and unpack and then what to do with 
the suitcase on a short trip.

So yesterday's email got me thinking: Why can't I Rinko my Ram and take it 
to NYC next time I travel?  So rather than do actually research, I thought 
I'd ask if folks here have done that, what parts do they use, what are the 
challenges, and exactly how cool is it to have a Rinko'able bike?

Thanks for any responses.

Steve Seelig


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[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

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Super late to party.  I used to use Pitlocks when they were first devised 
(20 years ago) but found the Pinheads more to my liking.  It looks like the 
Pitlocks have been improved significantly since the first version.  Once 
committed to a the Pinhead approach, it is hard to go back because the cost 
to commonly key several bikes becomes prohibitive.  Happy with the Pitlocks 
but always worried about forgetting the key.

Abus now also has a locking skewer I us on my City (not Country) 
Hillborne.  You can't slide the covering off while the bike is upright, and 
you use a #8 wrench to unlock once the bike is laid on its side.  A slight 
pain to work on because you have to tilt the bike to 90 degrees, with the 
great tradeoff that you can leave your #8 wrench on the bike.  It is of no 
use to anyone unless they've already defeated the lock. 
https://www.abus.com/eng/Mobile-Security/Bike-Safety-and-Security/Locks/NutFix

I use the Granite X folding lock for in-city lockups - mean streets of DC.

On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 3:58:30 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 10:34:57 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cinza wrote:
>>>
>>> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for 
>>> thieves as of late. 
>>>  What locks do you like and why? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
> What did the wise say? Something along the lines of the lock and bike 
> weights always add up to 40* pounds? :) 
>
> ** For iBobs, maybe 50 pounds, what with all our tweed bags, fenders and 
> steel filet-brazed handlebar-stem combos.*
>

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[RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Late to party.

We were among the first to get the Xtracycle Edgerunner, and it was fun to 
be stared at riding through DC as some sort of clown wagon, before such 
things became the norm.  While you may find the ride to be weird, harsh, 
plowy, etc., the simple fact is that you will be hauling moving kids on the 
back of a bike.  Not much to say except that the bike needs to maintain its 
integrity under a wide variety of conditions so to expect a road bike 
aesthetic like a Riv is not in the cards.

Consider that the Xtracycle has a 20 inch rear wheel, which means the kids 
are lower to the ground, the wheel is stronger and that it may be easier to 
accelerate from a stop.  Or at least that was the consideration I made when 
getting the non-electric version.

Also consider that Xtracycle provides tremendous customer service, or at 
least they did for me.  When my first generation center stand wore out, I 
expressed sadness about the prior design and joy about the new version to 
the customer service rep.  She immediately offered to send me the new style 
center stand for free, mostly because they improved upon the old design and 
believed that as an early adopter, I should get the benefit of that 
improvement.  I cannot over emphasize how important having a stable center 
stand will be for using the bike, and would assure you that not having that 
so the bike can sit by itself with a kid on it and not fall over is 
REQUIRED.

The rear rack system works pretty great with the hooptie for two kids.

Finally, because this was a non-electric version I bought, I cannot comment 
on the Bosch although I hear it is great.  I did install an aftermarket 
mid-drive motor as my kid got bigger and my legs failed to keep pace.  They 
do come in different sizes, BTW.

On Saturday, March 16, 2019 at 10:26:31 PM UTC-4, Kolby wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> Looking for some help/feedback on the topic of cargo e-bikes -- not 
> specifically whether they are a good idea or not, but about specific 
> designs currently out there and what I should be looking for. Here's the 
> background:
>
> I'm soon moving from Brooklyn to Austin, and as I'll need a second car I 
> figured I might finally get that cargo bike I've always wanted instead. I 
> have two younger kids and will likely have a commute of 15ish miles daily. 
>
> As soon as I started looking around, I quickly realized that Bosch motors 
> are taking over the Cargo category. Even though I'd never ridden an e-bike, 
> this made sense to me. I mean, it's kinda fun hauling my kid, my gear, and 
> myself up hills on my Atlantis, but sometimes it's just joyless drudgery 
> and I'd rather be driving. So the ebike was interesting. (Several test 
> rides later and I think it's probably the best hope of getting most people 
> out of cars and onto bikes, but that's another topic! :))
>
> So I started looking at the options. It just so happens that Surly released 
> a cargo e-bike this month : The 
> Big Easy, which carries 400 pounds and goes 20 mph.
>
> My LBS had a Big Easy for test rides, so I took it out. After 30 mins I 
> was having so much fun I called to say I need another 30 mins at least. I 
> went all over my neighborhood, and on "trails" in Prospect Park. I put an 
> adult friend on the back and we easily cruised up a hill at 15 mph. It was 
> a total blast, and it had a great ride and feel in all situations--it felt 
> like one of my own. It was kind of a bone shaker, but softer tires with 
> less air would fix that, I figured.
>
> Then I started looking closer at the Surly, and I disappointment set in: 
> the kickstand isn't a double (really!?), it uses quick releases instead of 
> thru axles on a bike that hauls 400 pounds (this seems unwise, right?), and 
> the extra battery is under the bottom bracket for some reason. Even more 
> annoying, Surly, true to the name, doesn't make it easy to add a kid seat 
> or lights. That would be understandable if it were cheaper, but it's $5k -- 
> the same price as the Xtracycle eswoop and the Tern CSD, both of which come 
> with lights, fenders, etc and assume you'll likely be adding a kid seat or 
> something else like that. 
>
> Annoyed, I took the Tern and Xtracycle out for rides, but ... both had a 
> terrible ride quality IMO. I wouldn't enjoy either on a daily or even semi 
> regular basis. Mostly it's due to the fact that they only come in one size, 
> which of course just doesn't work. (The Surly comes in S, M, L.)
>
> Lastly, I took a look out a Riese and Muller (front bucket style). 
> Specifically, the Load and Packster models. They are quite expensive 
> ($7k+), however they're available used for about the price of the Surly and 
> others. They have suspension and the ride is both unfamiliar but also very 
> stable and buttery smooth. The downside of the Riese seems to be all the 
> moving parts that make the magic happen, or so it seems to me -- more 
> potential points of failure. 

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

[Steven Seelig]

Not that this is an issue for all, but kid's Spring Break is the week of 
April 15th.  We already were planning on a bike trip on Rails to Trails 
locations south for that week, so the tip about the Silver Comet Trail was 
great.  But coming North from DC works also.

I am thinking the early spring idea is before that, though.  I will sit 
back and let the behind the sceners do their best.  Thanks for coordinating.

Steve Seelig, DC

On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 7:05:21 AM UTC-5, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> Jason,
>
> On the works behind the scene w/ a few of us for a North Easter meet-up.  
> My apology for not being more vocal on that.  Stay tuned.  Should get 
> something up this week.  
>
> CHEERS!
> Wally
>
> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 3:23:03 PM UTC-5, jandrews wrote:
>>
>> FYI
>> not sure if there is a person or group of people doing the 
>> coordination/planning for this..
>> But I'm working with someone who owns a hotel/lodge in Minnewaska.  I 
>> mentioned this to him yesterday and he said that depending on the date(s) 
>> and size of the group he could likely accommodate a large-ish group with a 
>> group rate and bike storage, etc.
>> If there's anyone who'd like me to make an intro or take that initial 
>> communication on myself...I'd be happy too.
>> Jason 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-5, Call Me Jay wrote:
>>>
>>> In for Minnewaska!  Great venue.  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How do you track your mileage?

[Steven Seelig]

You've identified some of the criticisms, many of which I share.  There are 
a myriad of cyclists out there, and would dare say that each person has 
their own reasons for riding.   Mine is to ride as much as I am able, and 
not to fret much about how I compare to those younger, fatter, fitter or 
slower.  Since I ride in the city, there is plenty of that on every ride 
where, as someone once said, every time you pass another cyclist or a 
cyclist passes you, its a race.  I confess that yes, there is lizard part 
of my brain that thinks that, and I need to dial it down.  So for me, 
Strava would be the addictive drug I'd just like to stay away from.  Hi, 
I'm Steve and I'm a dopamine addict.

So I guess I'm concerned that I would be that brakeless, fixie rider who 
ran down the older person in SF while pursuing his KOM.  Manslaughter, they 
called it.  Not that he or anyone else wouldn't have tried to go super-fast 
on their bikes without Strava.  But with it...

That's just my view and others can and should differ.


On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 6:32:35 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm not certain which precise point Steven was making, but I've spoken 
> with more than one cyclist who blames Strava for sensationalizing the KOM.  
> There are multiple stories out there of cyclists that kill themselves on a 
> downhill because they were going for a KOM.  I know some people think 
> Strava is partly to blame for these tragic occurrences.  There are 
> "dopamine addict" aspects to the 'kudos' and badge hunting aspects of 
> Strava that some people resent.  I definitely use Strava to show off to the 
> race team that I coach.  We all follow each other, and all give kudos to 
> one another.  When I do a 300k brevet, all "my kids" see it and they all 
> respond with "Damn, Bill. You're crazy".  Thanks to Strava, I can predict 
> that "my racer" who is poised to surprise the league with a breakout season 
> is Aiden.  Some people find that entire notion of speed and competition as 
> unhealthy or at least contradictory to the fun of "just ride", and avoid 
> Strava more as a personal protest.  
>
> Bill dopamine-me Lindsay
> El Cerrito CA
>
> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:02:32 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>>
>> Steven-
>> Weird, I use Strava and have never once been forced into a race, 
>> competition or challenge! I have ridden and run and walked and hiked slower 
>> than before, faster than before and just the same. I enjoy the analysis it 
>> gives me and lets me know my general fitness level. I have, however, never 
>> once been forced into the competition. I hope others aren't being forced 
>> into servitude to compete by their phone!
>>
>> -J
>>
>> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 12:58:48 PM UTC-8, Steven Seelig wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 on the Wahoo Element although I personally stay away from Strava and 
>>> use Ride with GPS.  If you use Strava, you are buying into the whole 
>>> competition thing, like it or not, which is not my bag.  Ride with GPS does 
>>> the same, I think, and permits your to check out other rides in your area 
>>> or, even better, when you travel to a new town.  So rather than wonder 
>>> where to ride when in unfamiliar territory, you get to plan rides based on 
>>> turn by turn directions uploaded by someone else.  Really fun if you are a 
>>> planner, like me. Not the most intuitive program to use, but after awhile 
>>> you will get the hang of it.
>>>
>>> On the cost side, it is a bit steep but I justified the purchase at REI 
>>> by getting back the dividend and knowing that I no longer have to worry, 
>>> worry, worry about burning the cell phone battery using a computer paired 
>>> to the phone.  No more psychic anxiety on that front. The Wahoo can operate 
>>> on its own, and pretty much lasts an entire day or two of riding.  
>>>
>>> If you don't have one, and would never spend the $ on something as 
>>> self-indulgent at this, I would say that with the holiday approaching this 
>>> is the perfect gift.  Maybe not for Deacon Partick, though.  More wool for 
>>> him. (-:
>>>
>>> Steve Seelig
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use Strava on the phone for 'non-serious' rides.  I use a Wahoo 
>>>> Elemnt for 'serious' stuff, which syncs to Strava.  Wahoo also seamlessly 
>>>> integrates over to Ride With GPS.  
>>>>
>>>> So, for commute miles, I touch one button on my phone and it records my 
>>>> mileage.  For a route where I 

[RBW] Re: How do you track your mileage?

[Steven Seelig]

+1 on the Wahoo Element although I personally stay away from Strava and use 
Ride with GPS.  If you use Strava, you are buying into the whole 
competition thing, like it or not, which is not my bag.  Ride with GPS does 
the same, I think, and permits your to check out other rides in your area 
or, even better, when you travel to a new town.  So rather than wonder 
where to ride when in unfamiliar territory, you get to plan rides based on 
turn by turn directions uploaded by someone else.  Really fun if you are a 
planner, like me. Not the most intuitive program to use, but after awhile 
you will get the hang of it.

On the cost side, it is a bit steep but I justified the purchase at REI by 
getting back the dividend and knowing that I no longer have to worry, 
worry, worry about burning the cell phone battery using a computer paired 
to the phone.  No more psychic anxiety on that front. The Wahoo can operate 
on its own, and pretty much lasts an entire day or two of riding.  

If you don't have one, and would never spend the $ on something as 
self-indulgent at this, I would say that with the holiday approaching this 
is the perfect gift.  Maybe not for Deacon Partick, though.  More wool for 
him. (-:

Steve Seelig

On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I use Strava on the phone for 'non-serious' rides.  I use a Wahoo Elemnt 
> for 'serious' stuff, which syncs to Strava.  Wahoo also seamlessly 
> integrates over to Ride With GPS.  
>
> So, for commute miles, I touch one button on my phone and it records my 
> mileage.  For a route where I need directions, I'll map it out on RWGPS and 
> sync it to my Wahoo.  For a ride like I did with Grant on Saturday, I 
> record it on Strava, and upload that data to Ride With GPS so I can do it 
> again without Grant because I've already got the breadcrumbs.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 2:15:22 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Bill’s thread on cycling goals made me realize that I don’t have an easy 
>> and consistent method of tracking my mileage.  With the new year upon us, 
>> I’d like to find a good way to track bike mileage across 3 bikes that I 
>> ride pretty evenly.  So, how do you all track your mileage on the bike? 
>>  I’m looking for any suggestions for products, cel phone holders, apps, 
>> websites, whatever will make it easy to track over the year across multiple 
>> bikes. 
>>
>> Thanks. 
>> John
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Steven Seelig]

As the original poster, I would say that I was not particularly interested 
in having someone explain to me the depth and breadth of bad things that 
can happen to my kid as I am well aware of that fact.  In our neighborhood, 
every middle school and many elementary school kids walk to and from their 
schools, apparently taking their collective lives in their hands.  So an 
introduction of those statistics could not really have been meant to 
illuminate me of those dangers and instead must have been done to let me 
know that person who posted them did not approve.  That would fall into the 
category of unsolicited opinions that the poster should consider not 
offering in the future.

Thanks for the tip on the two-handed hatchet for the kid, which makes a lot 
of sense since his use of it will likely be on his own.  I will explain to 
him the Jerry Garcia thing, and the Boy Scouts rules, and let him 
understand he needs to follow those.  BTW: he is in the Cub Scouts and has 
earned the right to carry a pocket knife, so he has an established track 
record of following some safety rules.

Thanks for all those who responded.  His birthday is Dec. 26th and I'll 
send a picture when he gets his gift.

Steve

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 10:47:35 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>
> There’s also a lot of people on that sex offender list who did things most 
> of us would not consider to be sex offenses. Urinating in public for 
> example. I’m not defending anyone, but those lists can be super deceptive.

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Re: [RBW] How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Steven Seelig]

Thanks for all the thoughtful responses.  Yes, I do let my kid ride his 
bike around DC in our neighborhood, mostly on sidewalks.  The safety and 
experience perspective others have offered applies for him.  He has been 
taught what to do and when and I trust that he will do what's right when 
he's by himself.  I have taught him that being safe from cars is 100% his 
responsibility. My experience is that he's far more responsible when on his 
own than with a pack of other boys his age where he seems compelled to do a 
"hold my beer and watch this."

On the knife angle, he got a Swiss Army knife when he turned 8, and within 
30 seconds of opening it from the package gave himself a nice slice in the 
finger.  But it happened only once and now he's very careful while using it 
and other sharp objects.  

I never knew it, but I am a "lazy" parent per the above definition.  

Steve

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 7:14:48 AM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Ways not to use a hatchet 
> <https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html>: 
> chopping ice you're standing on:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:36 PM Steven Seelig  > wrote:
>
>> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
>> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
>> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
>> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
>> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
>> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
>> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
>> his own.  
>>
>> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
>> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
>> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
>> out for him.
>>
>> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
>> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
>> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
>> entire life.
>>
>> Any perspectives?
>>
>> Steve
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[RBW] How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Steven Seelig]

I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, but 
not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, probably 
when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  Little did I 
know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, and my 
parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He has 
ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
his own.  

We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to chop 
wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry Garcia's 
brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked out for him.

My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is a 
green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
entire life.

Any perspectives?

Steve

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[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo 2018 this weekend Oct 27 and 28

[Steven Seelig]

My son (now 9) and do a road trip every year from DC to attend.  The boy 
only agrees if he can get a Cheese Steak at Reading Market.  When it 
started, it was held in an unheated warehouse, which made the even fun in a 
quirky, cold kinda way.  It is now a fabulous weekend of bike envy, new 
product introductions and great seminars 
 that are well worth 
attending.  No matter the kind of cyclist you might be, there is something 
there for you.

Since my son and I are tandem riders - he really needs to start pushing his 
weight - we highly recommend the session that Barb and Mel Kornbluth are 
hosting at 3pm on Saturday on Secrets to riding tandem almost 200,000 
miles.  We bought our Co-Motion Periscope from them, and are big fans of 
their evangelical fervor with a smile.

Steve


On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 9:13:22 AM UTC-4, REC (Roberta) wrote:
>
> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>
> Is anyone going?  I'll be there Saturday, my first expo.  There will be 
> indoor bike parking if you'll be riding. Philadelphia is a big biking city 
> (not like Oakland or SF though).  Still, riding is dangerous.  Just this 
> morning a cyclist was hit by a car.
>
> Best places for lunch:  Reading Terminal Market, just across the 
> street. Lots of food vendors there.   If you like Asian cuisine, Sakura 
> Mandarin is excellent, corner of 11th and Race Streets in Chinatown (a 
> block or two away) has a selection of Japanese and Chinese dishes.
>
> I live in town, if anyone has any questions.  
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Feedback? Velo Orange Double Kickstand

[Steven Seelig]

Big fan of double kickstands.  I've got the VO on my Sam, which is my 
upright city bike with a Wald small basket on the Mark Rack in front.  I 
use the VO wheel stabilizer to help with wheel flop.

I have a Pletscher on my Ram.  

So the lesson might be that the heavier VO is more appropriate with the 
heavier bike.  

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 12:54:12 PM UTC-4, Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
wrote:
>
> Hey!
>
> I'm in the market for a double kickstand to stabilize my bike for kid and 
> grocery hauling. Anyone have feedback on the velo Orange Copenhagen double 
> kickstand? Experience with other brands?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
> Portland, OR
>
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[RBW] What Size Nord Lock washer for Silver Bar Ends?

[Steven Seelig]

I know this is a more mundane topic than the discussion I just read on Paul 
Racers vs.Tecktros on the Hillborne - I have the Tecktros but have Paul's 
on 2 other bikes.  I cannot seem to find info on the size Nord-Lock washers 
to fit between the thumb screw and the plastic thingee on the Silver Bar 
ends.  My shifter tends to loosen after 50 miles or so and I'd like that 
not to happen.  First world problems, yes.

Anyone know and do I really need them?  The Riv literature is coy and say 
maybe you do and maybe you don't.

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[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

[Steven Seelig]

I live in DC, and my city bike is a Ram, as pictured.  Sure its a bit 
lighter and perhaps racier than the other bikes noted, but it is the bike 
best suited for all situations for me.  What makes it a City bike is 
perhaps the thing that does not make it a country bike - the grips and the 
brakes are in the same place at the end of the bars.  There is no "other" 
racier hand position to take, because the trade-off is that my brake handle 
and shifter are always nearby.  There is never a question of needing the 
shift positions or worry about my current position in the event of an 
emergency, or which there are about one every 30 seconds in the City.  

The pizza rack in front also denotes city bike because I can actually grab 
a pizza on my way home, or tote whatever I might need from the local 
market.  I also get to go pretty fast when I want to or can.  Keeping up 
with traffic is pretty important to me when possible, so having a bike that 
can get to 20 mph (okay with a downhill) is important to me.

Your mileage may vary.

On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 11:30:55 AM UTC-4, John W wrote:
>
> I’ve been thinking a lot about safety, and about what it means to 
> “underbike” in the city, in the name of keeping oneself purposely at 
> lower-than-average speeds and maximally visible to pedestrians and cars. 
>
> Naturally, most of this is in the hands of the cyclist. The best safety is 
> defensive cycling. 
>
> That said, as I consider a Riv purchase within the next year, I’m 
> centering my decision of the frame and build kit around what would make for 
> an enjoyable cycling experience in the city while also reinforcing the 
> thought of, “Hey: slow down, be seen, be slow. Ride your bike, but don’t be 
> a cyclist.” 
>
> Yes, this is an indulgence. But if anyone who overthought this as much as 
> I’m doing, I’d welcome suggestions or thoughts of what worked for you. I’m 
> ruling out single speeds due to cranky knees. But gearing and handlebar 
> choices are in play. So, too are frames. I’m thinking either a Sam or 
> Atlantis might fit the bill. 
>
> I know I could strap a cinderblock to my bike. That sure would slow me 
> down. But this is all about creating a fun bike that’s purpose built for 
> this task. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Question off topic mostly

[Steven Seelig]

Compared to a $600 Bike Friday tandem, my suggestion will be in the 
stratospheric realm.  For my young son and me, we invested in a Co-Motion 
tandem, the Torpedo model where the stoker seat can be raised from 4 foot 
something rider up to 6 feet.  We also got S couplers so we can fit into 
two suitcases for travel. It is super fantastic, and rides really as smooth 
as butter - Riv-like if you would.

The thing about a tandem with couplers is that only one wheel needs to fit 
in each suitcase, making the loading process a heckuva lot easier than 
loading a single, where the two wheel stuff gets pretty tight.  I would say 
that the breakdown and assembly are about the same hour as with the Bike 
Friday.  Where it is not as good is being able to stuff the tandem into the 
trunk of a car, so if you have a sedan, the Bike Friday would work.  But if 
like most 'Mericans you have an SUV or a station wagon like me, just detach 
the front section and the bike fits nicely.  BTW: it breaks into 3 section.

Price is an issue, of course, with a new bike being in the 5 grand range.  
I am told (by the dealer!?) that coupled tandems do hold their value, to 
which I can attest only to their rarity.  I just couldn't find another like 
this in the used market.

Aside from the fact that my stoker son is 9, and getting him to pedal 
steadily is a chore, the bike is a pleasure.  Let's see how many more years 
I get from it until he is ready to ride 50 mile days on his own bike.  

Steve Seelig



On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 1:38:07 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Kelly, 
> Long time no talk.  Feel free to call if you want more details. 
> I had a 66cm Bike Friday briefly and was surprised at the ride for riders 
> our size.  I second that the tire size (width) makes a difference when 
> trying to calm the steering a bit.  Mine accelerated brilliantly and would 
> have been a good fit for your intended purpose. 
> Although I adapted well to the ride and don’t see that being an issue for 
> you.  My wife did not like the look of me riding it. Her being a non 
> cyclist at the time; thought I looked like a “bear on a tricycle” (6’6” 
> 240lbs) and questioned why I was not riding my “normal” bikes (74cm 
> Bombadil or 68cm Quickbeam.  Not that others opinions would significantly 
> affect you nor I.  Nothing better than tightening up a Tilly for protection 
> and riding off. 
>
> Now regarding the Bike Friday Tandem I would not pull the trigger without 
> riding one first although they do hold used value and you could flip/resell 
> easily.  Most who rave about them to my knowledge are not our size and ride 
> them frequently with children and/or as introduction to Tandems.   
> I know you have evolved away from Rivendell but you might want to try 
> their tandem.  My wife wants to ride ours weekly and it is 100% better 
> (more enjoyable) than the Jumbo Cannondales we each owned in the past. 
> I consider mine custom-like and it is so dialed in we will never part with 
> it.  Grant’s willingness to add a size for us outliers is something I will 
> be forever grateful for and what makes him and RBW special.   
>
> Sincerely, 
> Ryan Hankinson 
> West Michigan 
> (616)928-4226 

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[RBW] Re: NYC 5 Boro ride

[Steven Seelig]

David really said it right.  I've done it twice on a tandem with my son, 
now 8.  First year we were in the first group to leave and it was great, 
except for the pouring rain in 50 degree weather. Being in front really has 
its privileges.

Last year we were in the back, and it is literally like being in the worst 
auto traffic jam you've ever experienced, except on a bike.  So the weird 
thing was having to adjust your mindset away from being the free and easy 
bike rider who is virtually never stuck in traffic, to the captive goofball 
driving a car who is stuck in traffic.  The only difference here is that 
you cannot lament the fact that you were stupid enough to drive instead of 
riding a bike to your destination.  You are the car driver now, just on a 
bike!

Then, after you get through all the traffic and into Brooklyn, there is the 
final 7 miles or so on a highway, often riding into the wind.  The carnage 
of weekend and sometimes cyclists stopping and/or struggling was actually 
quite sad.  A lot of folks just aren't ready for a 35 mile ride.

My advice would be to park your car somewhere in Staten Island and take the 
Ferry to the start line.  That way, after you are done, you can just load 
your bike and drive away.  No matter what, you will have to wait to get on 
the Ferry, so better to do that in the morning than in the afternoon when 
tired and cold.

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 10:42:55 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Did anybody else sign up? My brother in law and I signed up...
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Winter" clothing help

[Steven Seelig]

At the risk of  endorsing a product, I got this Weatherneck 
 thingee last year, and it is super awesome.  
The mask part lets  you breath through the mesh in the middle, so it 
minimizes fogginess on your glasses.  It attached in back by magnets, so 
you can pull it off if you get too hot. The hat also has the mesh in the 
middle to disburse heat, while also having a mullet cover that goes down 
your neck making it superwarm.  I just bought another one for my 8 year old 
boy, who also likes to ride in the winter.

Steve in DC

On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 2:07:19 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Non-clothing tip: In the cold, only breath through your nose. Slow down if 
> you need to. You will feel better, temperature regulation will vastly 
> improve, and you will build a solid aerobic base of fitness. It can take 
> some frustrating learning to get there, especially if you are very used to 
> overbreathing through your mouth (and many people are). However, in the 
> cold, the sinuses are designed to heat and moisturize air before getting to 
> the lungs.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick  
>

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