Re: [RBW] Re: My new A Homer Hilsen feels perfect!

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Thanks! It's a 54 cm AHH. My PBH is 79.0 cm.

The standover on the AHH with 650bx38mm Pacenti Pari Motos is about
the same as my 54 cm Ram with 700c x32mm Paselas. It's a little tight,
but I definitely made the right choice of frame size given the amount
of stem/seat post showing.  I have a long torso compared to my legs,
so that helps me fit the bigger frame size better.

It's a good size to use with the Acorn bag too. As the frames get
bigger, the cue sheets get harder to read, since the bag position gets
lower...

Toshi


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 8:46 AM, RJM  wrote:
> Great looking Homer, I love it.
>
> What size is the frame?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Was your RIV sizing right on?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

When I bought my used Ram frame, I was told it was a 52 cm frame,
which is what I have always bought. In any event, the standover was
about 30.5 inches, which is a bit more than the 30" I usually went
for, but I figured it would be fine.

It turns out that the frame was a 54 cm frame, and it works perfectly
for me, but I wouldn't have thought a 54 would work for me (and might
not have looked at it if I knew it was a 54 cm). I bought an AHH from
Rivendell and I was recommended a 54 cm frame, and it works great too.
I was kind of on the borderline, but after getting the bike, the 54
was definitely the right choice.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Same problem here. Steel QR solved it.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Rivet review?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

They stink because I need to buy another Rivet ($) to replace another
saddle that now seems too uncomfortable!

My first big ride @ the beginning of June...

Toshi


On 5/15/12, William  wrote:
> On the San Francisco Randonneurs Google Group, there have been several
> posts about the Rivet.  None of them are blog length narratives, but they
> have all been 100% enthusiastically positive.  It is my perception that all
> of the people who posted there on the SFR page went into it agreeing with
> the mission of Rivet, which is splitting the difference between a too-hard
> Brooks and too-soft Selle Anatomica.  It is also my perception that all of
> the people who posted also went into it liking Deb Banks very much
> personally, and so all of them really wanted to love their new saddle.
>  That doesn't prove anything, but it does provide context if you go to that
> group and search the archives for reviews.  I also like Deb Banks very
> much, and will probably buy one of her saddles soon.
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review?
>>
>> I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build.  I just
>> took
>> it out for the shake-down ride to work today.  It was a smooth ride!
>> Thumbs up so far.  I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to
>>
>> a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub.
>> Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right.
>>
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m
>> Brian
>> Seattle, WA
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FS: Brooks Swift saddle (was Re: [RBW] WTB: Brooks saddle)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I have a black chrome swift with ~50 miles riding, so it's basically
new. I paid ~$140 but will part with it for $70 shipped to anyone
interested.

Toshi

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:43 AM, rw1911  wrote:
> I'm looking for something affordable to put on my single speed beach
> bike.  A black standard B17 would be my preference, but what do you
> have?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I read the last issue of Momentum online after the Riv ad was linked.
Is it always available online for free?

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Buy the Pacer frame and build it up as a 650b. It's a super bike (700c
or 650b)!  I'm sure the Cross Check and Long Haul Trucker are great
bikes as well. I tell my friends to find one of those used on
Craigslist as a great starter bike.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Just got back from a 10 mile ride...

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I needed to get either a Nitto lugged seatpost (expensive) or a Velo
Orange seatback seatpost in order to get my seat far enough back to
take the weight off my hands. I also have a long torso.

Toshi


On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:36 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> You might look at your saddle position. Peter Jon White has much good
> to say about where to put it so that your torso and not your arms hold
> you up. It works for me.
>
> In fact, it was Grant long ago who told me, get your saddle back and
> your bars up and back, and it fixed my position problems. Note that
> "bars up and back" meant 8 cm extension and 3-5 cm below bar instead
> of 140 mm extension and 5 inches below bar.
>
> Broken record: butt back helps your torso hold itself up.
>
> Patrick "long torso" Moore
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Re: [RBW] TRP Brake Levers?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The black ones aren't that much more expensive ($60).  The gum ones
are $50 more (I couldn't justify it, although I somehow justified a
lugged stem and seatpost :).

I find them to be comfortable and braking from the drops is good.

Toshi


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Minh  wrote:
[...]
> These are all pretty minor and I would argue hard to justify the big price 
> difference from the regular tektros.  Of course if you value the aesthetics, 
> then they may be worth it since there are no other levers with a similar 
> design.

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[RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm thinking about using the Pari-Motos on an event ride. The way I
see it, 1 flat/200k is something I could deal with. 2/200k would
be--argh, but would survive. Another guy on the list claimed he got
one flat every 25 miles--at that rate I would be driven to tears.  My
other option are Soma Express tires, which ride just fine in my
training rides. I got one flat at mile 3, but haven't flatted since...
 Me + bike and stuff would probably be ~185 lb...

Toshi



On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM, William  wrote:
> Yeah, good idea, but no.  It's always something different that I'll find in
> there.  Thorn this time, wire next time, glass the time after that.  Each
> time I'd put the tires on, use them for short rides for a few weeks, get my
> confidence back up, and then at mile 85 of a 200k there I'll be with a flat.
>  Easily fixed and easily diagnosed, but still annoying, since it practically
> never happens with any other tire.
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Re: [RBW] Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Done because the tire was worn out, or you were done riding
Pari-Motos?  I guess I'll give them a try and hope for the best...

Toshi


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 16:46 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:
>> I'm thinking about using the Pari-Motos on an event ride. The way I
>> see it, 1 flat/200k is something I could deal with. 2/200k would
>> be--argh, but would survive. Another guy on the list claimed he got
>> one flat every 25 miles--at that rate I would be driven to tears.  My
>> other option are Soma Express tires, which ride just fine in my
>> training rides. I got one flat at mile 3, but haven't flatted since...
>>  Me + bike and stuff would probably be ~185 lb...
>
> For me, one flat in over 1500 miles, then several in under 10 miles at
> which point I declared the tire done.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pari-Motos and flats (was Re: New 650B conversion)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Thanks Bill,

Was the flat with the Foss tubes too?  I'll have to hope for good luck
on my ride!

Toshi


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM, William  wrote:
> Got it fixed.  The size and shape of the hole looked like a glass puncture.
>  Found the tiny place in the tire where the glass peeked through and blew
> back out.  Patched it up and I'm rolling again.  Just bad luck in Hayward.
>
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Re: [RBW] Ride Pics - Rambouillet in Bodega Bay, Coleman Valley Road, PCH

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi Max,

What kind of rack and bag are you using?  I just built up a
Rambouillet and have a handlebar bag (no rack), but was wondering how
the rack and bag handles for you.

Thanks,
Toshi


On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:41 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Pictures of a lovely weekend pair of  ridse from Bodega, up Coleman
> Valley Road; time-outs on Salmon Creek and Coleman Beaches.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627945612093/with/6320527424/
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> enjoy!
>
> Max
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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford touch-up paints

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Does anyone have a good match for the blue Rambouillet color?

Thanks,
Toshi


On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> They send a pretty good amount, too.  At least the ones I have are 3.5 or
> 4oz.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Corwin  wrote:
>>
>> Plus A. Homer Hilsen Pearly Blue & Heron colors as well!
>>
>> CZ
>>
>> On Nov 9, 12:50 pm, Leslie  wrote:
>> > Just and FYI, on something I came across...
>> >
>> > Over on Waterford's Gunnar page, they have a touch-up paint order
>> > section.  http://gunnarbikes.com/site/order/touchup/
>> >
>> > Included in their list, are orange and green Sam Hillbornes, and the
>> > Atlantis green.
>> >
>> > FWIW...
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Re: [RBW] Re: A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yes, the 80 lux model is the one you want.  If 1.5 hours is okay for
you in terms of battery life on high (with 4 high quality NiMH AA
batteries), then this is the light to get.

I wish they produced the same philips light for dynamo.  The dynamo is
a 60 lux version, which is apparently more or less comparable to the
B&M IQ Cyo.

Toshi


On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:14 PM, climbthemtns  wrote:
> Just heard back from Peter-
> He says -
> "The "40" isn't the bright one. The one I'll be stocking costs $220
> and is twice the brightness. SR80."
> Just placed my order.
>
> Michael
>
> On Dec 14, 12:22 pm, climbthemtns  wrote:
>> I've been researching of late to replace a NR light that has finally
>> failed.  I use a Hunq for my commute through Walnut Creek trail
>> systems that are very dark.  I was pretty challenged by the options I
>> found on various threads here as well as reading through Peter White's
>> site.  I called them to ask about the best non-dynamo option for the
>> brightest light and Peter said that they'll be carrying a new Philips
>> light in January that's the brightest light he's seen in the AA
>> rechargeable battery group.  It has a flatten, oval beam and will cost
>> about $200.
>>
>> Well, that led me on a search to see if I could find this particular
>> light and I found the following site which has an amazing overview of
>> lighting systems, including I think this new Philips:
>>
>> http://swhs.home.xs4all.nl/fiets/tests/verlichting/index_en.html#gewe...
>>
>> If you scroll down the Contents, you'll see a Philips LED bike light
>> (LBL), battery powered with cutoff
>> and a
>> Philips Saferide 40 (which is the newest Philips light, but not sure
>> if this is what Peter is referring to).
>>
>> My considerations are to go with this new Philips or the the DiNotte
>> or the Busch & Muller IXON IQ.
>>
>> Anyone familiar with the Philips LBL or the new Philips
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Billie Bars

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I went 3 cm shorter going from my Homer (drops) to Cheviot (Albastache).
The dirt drops also have the stem rise, so you may not need to go as
short.  The transition from my drops to Albastache is seamless.  The only
other non-drop bars I've used are the Boscos, but I don't like them as much
because they don't have a front of the bar position, which I like when
climbing or tucking in the wind.

My wife has Albatross bars and has the whole bar wrapped, but only uses the
bar end cork grip (also the brakes are there too).  The brakes are in the
front position on my Albastache, and I probably use that position equally
with the bar ends.

Toshi


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 6:08 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> James suggested the Dirt Drop 10 but do you think I need something
> shorter? It's so hard to know without being able to try a stem/handlebar
> first.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 8:39:16 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> I think you’ll love those Albas, Doug. But if this is for your Clem, get
>> a short and tall stem. Maybe not as short as mine (I think your grilver is
>> a more compact geometry than the 2019 Clem I have) but probably a 8 or 9,
>> 10, max.
>>
>> No Billie Bars until 2022?! I lucked out late last night and found one
>> pair at C&L Cycles out of Canada. ONE. BAR. I paid handsomely for it after
>> the $$$ shipping, but I don’t care. These are my perfect bar.
>>
>> Gotta run, work starts at 0615.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 5:03 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting Albatross bars for my new Clem build from James and Candice
>> at Analog and feel like I'm going old school with the Billie Bars being the
>> new and improved version. But, I did hear that Billie Bars may not be
>> available until 2022. I'm actually excited to try the Albatross bars though
>> as I have ridden drops almost exclusively on road rides with some limited
>> miles with Bullhorn bars on my Wabi Classic single speed.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:59:38 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> The Billie Bars soon to be renamed the Leah Belle Ding Ding Bars...
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 9:24:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ed, shhh, don’t tell them until AFTER they sell us their bars.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 2, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:

 

 I also recently replaced the Nitto Choco bars on my 51 Gus Boots
 Willsen with the new Billie bars and its now my new favorite handlebar.
 Now I want to replace all the Albatross bars on all my other Riv
 bicycles :-)

 On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 8:57:58 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
 wrote:

> There are lessons to be learned here…🙄😬
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 2, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> You told everybody how great they are and sold out the entire world's
> supply of Billie Bars! 😂
>
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 4:09:41 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Bump. Who has Billie bars they don’t need?
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 31, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>>
>> I am looking for a 2nd set of Billie Bars. Will buy from you or trade
>> the aluminum 52 Boscos I have. Let me know whatcha got!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Most people understand the concept of a "mid-life crisis car".  I can buy
10 bikes for the price of the "crisis" car, which I will never buy, so I
don't feel too bad.  Yes, it is non-essential to buy such a "fancy" bike,
but it is used and has big contributions to my health and well being.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Toshi Takeuchi]

True, true, and I am able to afford my bicycle now, although I will leave
you to guess whether any existential crisis was involved with my purchase
:).

Toshi


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 12:13 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As someone elsewhere suggested,
>
> "Maybe forty-year-old men driving sports cars aren't going through a
> midlife crisis. Instead, they can finally afford the car they wanted when
> they were twenty."
>
>
>
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
> Most people understand the concept of a "mid-life crisis car".  I can buy
> 10 bikes for the price of the "crisis" car, which I will never buy, so I
> don't feel too bad.  Yes, it is non-essential to buy such a "fancy" bike,
> but it is used and has big contributions to my health and well being.
>
> Toshi
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Re: [RBW] Comebacks for when people think your bikes cost too much

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yeah, Riv bikes are a baa-gn compared to the space age composite frames and
electrified drive trains on these bikes that are meant to be replaced when
the latest "improved" model comes out.

Toshi


On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 8:05 AM Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> Take them to a bike shop. Most people are out of touch relative to the
> cost of a modern bicycle. I have found that most folks seem to equate
> bicyles with childrens toys and as such, interact with them mos;ty in big
> box store toy departments.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet 700c tire fit

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I agree with Andy.  I had Kojaks with fenders, but it didn't feel quite
right--I felt like I was higher off the ground than I wanted to be.  I
liked it better with Pasela 32 mm.  I was on an Mavic Open Pro rim.  With
that said, I'm sure a 38 without fenders would fit.  However 650b x 42 mm
(with fenders) is heavenly!

Toshi


On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 8:40 AM ascpgh  wrote:

> General information was that you would be able to run 700 x 38mm tires
> without fenders and 700 x 32 with them . The latter is how I have mine set
> up using Stampede Pass tires on Velocity Synergy rims under Honjo H-47
> fenders and Paul Racer center pull calipers. More important is the handling
> that favors 32mm.  Higher or lower feels less optimally Riv-like.
>
> I have run 700 x 25 and 28mm tires and can really vouch for the
> comparative handling improvement at 32mm. I haven't run anything over 32mm
> on it as I have seem how much the necessity of wider might degrade the
> handling.
>
> And Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 8:07:45 AM UTC-5 David Hallerman wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As I gather parts to transform my NOS green Rambouillet frame into the
>> free-range, Green Goddess bicycle, I particularly have questions about
>> tires. Questions for RAM owners now and before.
>>
>> * I’m guessing everyone has had no to little problem with 700x35 tires.
>> If not correct, what was your glitch? What rim, too? And what 35s?
>>
>> * And if you’ve comfortably fit 700x38 tires, what tires, rims, brakes do
>> you have (or did you have) on your Rambouillet?
>>
>> Thanks much for your experienced perspectives!
>>
>> Dave, the former editor who has also seemed to see the nickname RAM as
>> all caps like that rather than just Ram and wonders if his perception is
>> accurate and if it is accurate why do people write the name in all caps
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Re: [RBW] FS: Riv/Outershell camera strap

[Toshi Takeuchi]

How much are you selling it for?

Thanks,
Toshi


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 8:56 PM Drw  wrote:

> apologies for multiple sale posts today. forgot to include this in the
> other thread. Selling the Rivendell version of outershell's camera strap. I
> think they only made a small batch of these. Works well, but I dont shoot
> enough with a real camera to make this worth it. Its kind of a cool grayish
> color.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brevets on Rivs -- 2021 Dillon Beach 200k

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi Adam,

--Regarding longer ride nutrition, I like to use Hammer Perpetuem.  I
currently make a homemade version, but it is maltodextrin with some soy
protein and fat (lecithin).  I add a lot of scoops like 5-6 in one of my
water bottles--it has a shake-like consistency-- and it will fuel me for
60-70 miles.  I bring extra packets in ziploc bags to refill, but depending
upon heat and pace, I may not stomach them.  You'll need to learn what
sounds and feels tasty to you on the later stages of a ride.  I love V8
drinks for the salt/potassium, soups, bread, nuts and fruit do well with
me, but you'll need to find out what works for you.

--Bill, I'll probably see you on the Santa Cruz 200k in September.  I'll
probably ride my Roadeo.  Maybe I'll see you on your Legolas!

Toshi


On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:48 AM Adam  wrote:

> Thanks for the report.
>
> I'm curious to hear about your and others' nutrition strategies. I've not
> ridden a 200k yet but plan to soon. On rides longer than 100k or so, I find
> that I need eat way more than you describe. I totally over ate on a century
> a few months ago and got a bit sick post ride(no more pizza!) Since then
> I've not had time to do another century, but on 50-70 mile rides I've been
> trying to snack throughout the ride, esp early, and that works for me.
>
> Any suggestions from folks when doing rides long enough to require a meal?
>
> Adam
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:10:25 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Yesterday was brevet day, and it was my 29th career 200k brevet, but my
>> first on a "road bike".  From the start I've always had one or more "rando
>> builds" from which to choose, and so I've always ridden one of those
>> machines.  I always had mixed feelings towards those randos who strap a
>> bunch of afterthought bags to their carbon road bikes.  Are they cheating
>> on a race bike?  Will they be suffering because of their skinny tires?
>> This time, with the weather warm, the pavement decent, and the course not
>> too hilly, I decided to give the whole road bike brevet thing a try.
>>
>> The field was tiny, allegedly 8 riders.  I only saw five of them at the
>> start; the Escape From Alcatraz Race occupied the parking lot where we
>> intended to start and the volunteer who takes the sign ins couldn't get
>> there in his car.  The six of us were prepared to collect EPP (Electronic
>> Proof of Passage) and started our GPS units and headed out.  Bless his
>> heart the start control volunteer later found me on the route and took my
>> signature there, explaining I wouldn't get credit without having signed the
>> waiver.
>>
>> The weather was in the mid 50s and foggy at the start as we crossed the
>> Golden Gate Bridge.  The cross winds that would continue all day were very
>> light in the morning and would be far stronger in the afternoon, which was
>> advantageous.  The course headed mainly into a headwind while the winds
>> were weak and returned with a tailwind while the winds strengthened.  I did
>> most of the ride solo, and I believe I was probably the second finisher.
>> One rider who went out fast on the first climb of the day, I passed buying
>> mangoes at a fruitstand late in the afternoon.  One rider who blew past me
>> was on a current A Homer Hilsen, and he cheerfully said "Nice Bike!" as his
>> youthful strong legs propelled him down the road.
>>
>> My early vintage Roadeo did exceedingly well.  I had a slight panic when
>> I realized that I did not pack gloves, so it was also my first barehanded
>> 200k.  The only inconvenience that ended up causing was it give me another
>> place to apply sunscreen, and with no gloves my slick sunscreened fingers
>> were a little bit slippy on my shellacked bar tape and hoods.  Overall not
>> a big problem.
>>
>> From a handling and comfort perspective, the bike was exceptional.  My
>> back, arms and shoulders felt great all day.  Mechanically the bike was
>> perfect.  I don't think I ever needed to use my lowest gear, despite some
>> steep pitches.  I went out pretty fast in the first half but backed off a
>> little on the wind-aided return when I noticed the smell of wildfire smoke
>> in the air.  It was nowhere near the worst I've seen, and the consistent
>> west to east crosswinds certainly helped clean things out for this coastal
>> route.  I finished the 127 miles, 7300ft of climbing in 9:22 actual, 8:37
>> moving.  Anything under 10 hours is quick for me.
>>
>> As per usual, the only things I would change about a Roadeo to make it an
>> even more perfect brevet bike would have been a tiny bit wider tires.  I'm
>> running 700x32 Stampede Pass Extralights, and would have loved to enjoy 35s
>> or 38s.  I still think a semi-custom Roadeo with cantilever brakes and a
>> tiny bit wider clearances would be tremendous.  I'll test that theory by
>> doing my next brevet on my Legolas with 700x35 Bon Jon Pass Extralights, in
>> September.  With the skinny tires, I did notice the bumps, particularly at
>> 

Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The R559s work much better than Diacompe 750s (in my hands), but I don't
have experience with the GBs.  The Compass/Mafac do really well too, but I
haven't had those on the same bike as R559s to do a direct comparison.

Toshi


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:34 AM Brenton Eastman 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I bought my Sam Hillborne built up with Grand Bois centerpulls (with the
> stirrup for mounting on the brakes bridge, not posts). I have been sort of
> disappointed/concerned by the stopping power. I take my Sam all over the
> place, and probably descend on some trails that blur the line of MTB
> territory. I have seen people with Sams (sans canti posts) running tetro
> R559, and Riv's own site sells them. I'm just wondering if making the swap
> would buy me some stopping power. The Grand Bois brakes are beautiful, and
> twice the cost of the tektro, but I would prefer some downhill peace of
> mind over prestige and good looks. Anyone have opinions or experience with
> either/both?
> Thanks,
> Brent
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Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I can confirm that the stock R559 brake pads suck beans--almost a death
wish.  I switched to Kool stop salmons, or the Yokozunas black or salmon
worked fine too.  I am 150 lbs (or getting back there :).

Toshi


On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 9:19 AM Addison Quarles 
wrote:

> I find it so interesting that there are such polarized experiences with
> the Tektro r559; one normally only sees this gulf when looking at obscure
> tech from days long gone, but in this case it’s regarding a component you
> can still “walk” to the “store” and buy. What are the variables we’re
> missing here? Are the naysayers 6’4”, 220lbs and running stock brake pads?
> Those in favor 5’6”, 140lbs with Kool Stops?
> I for one love the r559; I’ve got them on my (very upright) commuter with
> compression-less housing, Kool Stop inserts and flexy little Tektro levers
> and I’m certain I could go ass-over-tea kettle if I grabbed a handful of
> brake without care. The bike runs very wide, polished rims and increasingly
> slick Gravel Kings.
> In the name of science, I am 5’8” and about 150lbs
>
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 6:33:21 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Not an opinion, it's my experience using these brakes on a Riv Cheviot
>> and various 650b conversion. It's also echoed in a recent BQ issue, where a
>> rider on a Trek conversion could barely control his speed with these long
>> reach brakes. I wouldn't buy a frame that required these brakes.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:10 PM Nick Payne  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 24 August 2021 at 9:02:59 am UTC+10 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 I've never used the GB brake, but I've found the R559 to be
 particularly weak. The long arms flex so much, I had to set the pads at the
 very bottom of the brake track so the brake pads wouldn't hit the tire as
 the arms flexed up during a stop. And in the wet, they barely stop at all.

>>> That opinion is nonsense. I've been using the R559, and it's predecessor
>>> the R556, for 20-odd years, and haven't had any problems with brake flex or
>>> being unable to stop, including touring in high mountains.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brevets on Rivs -- 2021 Dillon Beach 200k.

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Good to see you Bill!  It was a beautiful day and the only issue I had with
my small Roadeo is that there isn't much seat to tire clearance (compared
to my 650b).  I usually ride with my Mark's wrap, but thought I might need
extra space, so I swapped bags with the Banana Sack. I thought there was
enough clearance, but things shifted in the bag a bit and with some up and
down motion, it was rubbing on my rear wheel. I ended up cinching the bag
up with an Irish Strap. Duct tape would have done the job too, but the
Irish strap is much prettier!

Bill was speeding along and I got to talk with him because he was stopped
in the road waiting for some tree trimmers to open up the lane.  He might
have gotten his best time without that delay.  I had my best time on a 200k
ever at 8:43.  The beautiful tail wind down the Pacific Coast Highway
helped!

Toshi in Oakland, CA

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Re: [RBW] Roadini or Homer

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I have a Roadeo and a Homer.  I ride the Roadeo for fair weather 1 day
rides, but used my Homer for multi-day events set up as shown below.  Of
course, the Homer wouldn't be a Roadeo when stripped to its lightest, but
then again, it has rack mounts and fits wider tires, so it has tangible
benefits and would serve very nicely in many categories.  I think the Homer
is the right bike for riding with light loads.  I wouldn't hesitate to put
on a rear rack and do some light touring too.

Roadeo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8443093499/

Homer setup for 600k--obviously smaller bags work just fine and would be
more spritely
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I use a 10-speed friction drivetrain on my Roadeo.  It has a Sugino Alpina
cranks with SRAM 11-28 and microshift friction bar-ends with Ultegra RD.
It shifts great.

Toshi


On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:43 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I think we've established that the 11-42 cassette, 10-speed chain and Wolf
> Link is a fairly simple swap, the question is how will it shift. Has anyone
> here friction-shifted 10-speed?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 30 and more years ago I tried a 16, 17, or 18 t MT Quad with a 48/38/28
>> original Deore or Deore XT triple, and found the shifting so finicky that I
>> returned it. It would probably work best as a small granny added to a
>> double.
>>
>> The maker still lives in Albuquerque as he did in 1989 or so when I first
>> visited him. He must be well into his 70s by now.
>>
>> But I have to agree with Collin: at a certain point it's just easier to
>> walk, though people have said that for loaded touring on pavement, even
>> very tiny sub 20" gears are useful.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:18 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> I've never seen that thing before (Moutain Tamer)...Looks useful as long
>>> as derailleurs can handle it.
>>> Would be fun to make a quad , something like 46/34/26/18 with a 12-34 in
>>> the rear ...no need for large cassette or roadlink device
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yes my understanding is that if you want a thicker tube for strength, the
outer diameter stays the same—I suppose so you can use the same lugs, but
that means the inner diameter has to decrease, so you have a smaller seat
tube diameter.

Toshi in Oakland

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:35 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Hey Fellas,
>
> Thanks for the reply's.
>
> Ron, honestly I know very little about bicycle frame manufacturing in
> terms of the decisions that go into ordering a batch of F&F.'s. I could
> certainly see creating a uniformity of parts and I'm sure Grant has some
> rationalization for going with this diameter seat tube but it effectively
> limited choices, virtually every seat post manufacturer makes a 27.2 mm
> post.
>
> Karl, it does.
>
> Joe,  they do but I prefer a dual bolt post. They are stronger and allow
> for better adjustment.
>
> A friend of mine on the list here uses a suspension post, When Rivendell
> went to this seat post diameter it effectively limited him from buying any
> of the new frames because nobody makes his preferred suspension post in
> that diameter only in 27.2mm.
>
> Perhaps I'll call Grant and ask the man himself why he made that decision.
> Somewhere I read that he wanted to create a thicker tube wall for more
> strength? Maybe there were some failures and he was future proofing? Maybe
> someone with better knowledge will chime in?
>
> Hugh n LA
>
> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 8:00:52 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I don't know the answer but I do know Riv also carries the S65
>> single-bolt in 250mm for $84.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:01:38 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe someone can answer this, why in the heck did Rivendell start
>>> making the seat tube inside diameter 26.8mm on the new bikes? I believe
>>> hearing something about seat tube wall thickness. Don't get me wrong, I
>>> think the new Geos make for a better ride, but it's way easier to find
>>> posts in 27.2mm all day long.
>>>
>>> Rivendell has the Nitto S83 in that diameter but it's a whopping 300 mm
>>> length 50 mm more than I need and also a whopping $128 before tax and
>>> shipping.
>>>
>>> Rant over n out.
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8mm seat post diameter??

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Laing, your point is exactly my point.  If you use the same lugs you do not
change the OD otherwise the lugs would not work.  If you want to use the
same lugs and want a thicker tube, then it must get thicker on the inside,
so the inner diameter must decrease with a thicker tube.  That's my
understanding of why the seat post is now smaller in diameter.

Toshi


On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:54 AM lconley  wrote:

> Lugs attach to the OD of the tube and have nothing to do with the ID of
> the tube. My second Sam Hillborne, in orange metalflake,  had the same lugs
> as my 1st, but used the 26.8 seatpost.
> Gotta go - the UPS guy is at the door with my Crust Clydesdale fork. I am
> going to call this latest creation Conley's Crustendell Clementine
> Clydesdale Cargo Cycle (but sadly awaiting the Cliffhanger rims till
> December). I love a good alliteration. The black fork even matches the
> black Clementine.
>
> Laing Conley
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:37:40 AM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hugh, I had my little rant about this same issue back on Nov 24th last
>> year.  I assumed the change on the Hillbornes was made when they changed
>> the style of the seat lug.  The ends of the seat stays on my 2015 Hillborne
>> (sidepull brakes) where they meet the seat lug are of a different style
>> than the current models.  I assumed that was the reason, but I notice the
>> Platypus and the Appaloosa use the same style as my Hillborne, but both
>> those frame take 26.8mm seatposts.  Seems odd that the wall thickness used
>> in the seat tube of the Hillborne would change after 2015, but I guess it
>> did, hence the change to 26.8mm seatposts.  Anyhow, I'm with you on this.
>> Definitely limits ones options.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 6:43:25 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I asked Will about this recently and he said something to the effect
>>> that Grant didn't want to ream out as much from the seat tube hence thicker
>>> tube and thinner post.
>>>
>>> I'm with Laing and would like that lugged seatpost in a 26.8, please!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 8:05:10 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell switched over to mostly 26.8 seatposts maybe 5-6 years ago
 when they started using thicker tubing across the board. My 1st Rivendell
 (of 13) was a sidepull double top tube all-blue Sam Hillborne in 2011 and
 was 27.2, every other Rivendell with a 28.6 (1-1/8) OD seat tube since has
 been 26.8 except the thin tubed Frank Jones Sr with a 27.2 and the Bombadil
 with a 27.0. I just wish that they would issue the lugged seatpost in 26.8.
 I put a 27.2 lugged seatpost in the Bombadil by honing the ID if the seat
 tube with an automotive brake cylinder hone. I use the hone on all my
 frames anyway to smooth the interior of the tube so that the frames don't
 scratch the seatposts. In the case of the Bombadil It just took a couple of
 evenings and an extra set of stones to enlarge the diameter. The
 Hubbuhubbuh and Clementine use even larger seat tubes and seat posts. My
 custom uses 31.8 OD tubes for the entire main triangle and uses a 29.0
 seatpost (1.4mm thick seat tube) - made for an interesting search - ended
 up with an very cool 30 year old NOS Campagnolo Icarus MTB seatpost. I grew
 up on French bicycles, so alternate component standards were always part of
 cycling to me. Much more pleasurable using Google than telephoning multiple
 bike shops and hitch-hiking across the state in the seventies to get a 26.4
 Campagnolo Record seatpost.

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

 On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 5:57:29 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> On Tuesday, 19 October 2021 at 7:37:04 pm UTC+11 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> If you use a seattube with thicker 0.9mm walls (say for a touring
>> bike designed to carry a load), then that will take a 28.6mm seatpost.
>>
> That should have been 26.8mm seatpost, not 28.6.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet as Tourer

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I've done long randoneurring rides on my 650b converted Ram.  It was
definitely one of my favorite bikes ever, and was only replaced because I
got an even nicer custom Riv.  It had a front Mark's rack with P-clamps and
a rear saddlebag.  Never any handling issues.  I've used larger saddlebags
than the one pictured here for my longest rides.  I think it would be great
for credit card touring, but would want something beefier for larger loads.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8176967200/

Toshi


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:57 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> When the Rambouillets first were advertised in the planning works, do you
> guys recall who (Ted King?)  did a dirt ride parallel to I-80 through the
> Humboldt Basin / Lake Lahontan (east of Reno) on a Rambouillet? That got me
> interested in the bike. The same test bike was on the floor at Riv, Grant
> loaned it to me for a weekend.  I rode it on pavement and through various
> parts of dirt trails on Mt Diablo. I eventually got RB005, a pre-production
> version. It fits 36 mm wide tires (actual) and would probably safely accept
> up to 40 mm wide tires. I did grocery runs on it, but never loaded touring
> with front and rear racks. Very capable multipurpose bikes.  So that was
> the origin of my question, they are capable of handling different riding
> conditions and uses, but loaded down, it seems they can handle front and
> rear loads too.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Ben Mihovk wrote:
>
>> By any chance, did you buy the one off eBay being sold by Walter? I
>> messaged him a few times about the bike and decided I needed something a
>> little more rugged, but man...that bike was very tempting.
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 10:00:23 AM UTC-5 mpc...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I personally just purchased a Ram that was sitting in a garage looking
>>> beautiful but not being used. I've been wondering how hard I can push it,
>>> especially on dirt/gravel. So, Andy, thank you for your insight here. The
>>> more I read the more I'm gleaning that this bike should NOT be too heavily
>>> loaded.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 7, 2020 at 6:48:46 AM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 The Ram was intended for lightish touring and it does that well.
 Handling with any kind of front load depends a lot on the handlebar type
 and stem length used. I toured with the stock Nitto Noodles. I used a
 Mark's rack with P-Clamps and a small Baggins bag with up to 5 lbs in it. I
 also used a Duluth Candy roll handlebar bag for lightweight, want quick
 access to stuff, like lip protector, my phone, etc. Mostly, supplies went
 into 2 Nashbar panniers on a lightweight aluminum rear rack. That was to
 keep the center of gravity lower. Rain jacket and pants, helmet cover was
 in a large Baggins bag on top of the rack. I had a Keven's bag under the
 saddle with tire change stuff. The bike was a little rear heavy that way.
 handling was fine, but picking up and carrying was different. I have almost
 always ridden the same 32 mm Paselas that were original issue.

 These days, that bike is re-configured as my Townie/Sunday Cruiser but
 still has a rack in back and a Baggins bag on top.

 Bruce

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet as Tourer

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I would say the Ram is in between the Homer and Roadeo. It doesn’t have
braze-ons for racks which is one of my negatives for touring, although you
can use the fender mount for racks. I weigh 150 and my Homer felt good and
even springy (Is that what planing is?) when I had about 25-30 lbs on the
rear rack. I think the Homer would work fine for me for loaded touring.

Toshi


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 5:40 PM dougP  wrote:

> Where does the Ram fit in compared to the Homer?  A friend did a tour down
> the coast with a Homer a few years ago & enjoyed the trip, no bike
> problems.  RBWHQ did tell him that Homer was intended to be a touring bike
> but they are also pretty conservative about such things.
>
> A definite consideration when loading a bike is rider weight and baggage.
> I've toured on my Atlantis & found that with 35-40 lbs of junk (easy to do
> when camping) the bike rides much more cushy than unloaded.  I'm middling
> in weight at 160.  The Atlantis could probably handle a 200 lb rider with
> full luggage.  My friend who toured on his Homer is quite thin & light.
>
> So if the Ram is not far off the Homer, you're probably OK if you're not
> lugging enough gear to go around the world.  Based on my own experience
> with my Atlantis, weight placement affects handling to a surprising degree,
> even on a purpose built touring bike.  After considerable fiddling, I've
> found that 60% front / 40% rear works best for me.  Too much on the rear
> causes it to wobble.  When we've had threads about panniers & weight
> placement, results vary all over the place, so your safest bet is to play
> around with it quite a bit before starting your tour.  Especially with all
> the gear for camping, 4 bags seems best.  I've done lodging tours with 2
> bags & prefer them on the front for ride & handling, but 20 lbs on the rear
> works OK as well.
>
> Sorry I had no Ram specific info to offer, but it looks like you got some
> responses that cover it.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 2:49:00 PM UTC-7, Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>> Howdy, looking through the archives about using a Rambouillet as a
>> touring machine. I toured along the spine of the Cascades and Sierra on a
>> Specialized Sequoia, and along Highway 1 SF to LA.  The Rambouillet seems a
>> bit more stout than the Sequoia.  Most of the old touring related posts
>> here are from 2012 - 2014.  Any new news about tours folks have done on
>> their Rambouillets?  What pannier arrangements did you use? Self-supported,
>> road surface?
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I don't know if it's the lighting, but the paint job looks spectacular.  I
could be fooled into thinking it's a Joe Bell custom.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset advice sought (and WTB)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

You can drop down from Bill's Velocity quill to Velocity A23 rims and still
have a nice wheelset and save a little more.  I use A23s on my Roadeo.

Toshi in Oakland, CA

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 12:09 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The ultimate I think is what I have on my Sam:
>
> HED Belgium C2 Plus rims
> White Industries MI5 rear hub
> Dynamo front hub of your choice
>
> That would be about an $800 wheelset all-new, but it's perfect for a light
> Sam build.  If I had to try to get close on a budget, I'd substitute
> Shimano M737 hubs from ebay, and Velocity Quill rims.  Then you could get
> it done for around $400 or so.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 11:24:53 AM UTC-7 Erik Wright wrote:
>
>> Hey bunch,
>>
>> I recently sold my Roadini and so my Sam H has taken the reins as my drop
>> bar road bike. Until this week it'd been my fendered, basketed, dynamo'd,
>> Choco bar'd townie, but a Mercier Kilo WT fixed gear has taken over that
>> slot through the upcoming winter.
>>
>> Riding my Sam this morning definitely felt like I was pushing some
>> weight. I don't expect my Sam to feel as nimble and snappy as the Roadini
>> did, but I think it could certainly lose some weight. Based on what I've
>> learned over the years, it sounds like the wheelset is the easiest place to
>> make a noticeable difference. I'm currently running a Rich-built Atlas rear
>> wheel (unsure of the hub) and a Shimano dynamo'd Dyad in the front, with
>> 700x44 Snoqualmie Pass standard casing tires. Seems like a pretty hefty
>> wheelset (especially for my 150lb self) that makes sense for the
>> commutery/touring build, and maybe it still makes sense for a more
>> road-oriented build, but I'm curious to hear some thoughts.
>>
>> What wheelset (hub/rim combo) would you recommend for a Sam that's going
>> to see 80% pavement, 20% rougher stuff/gravel, carry *light* 5-10lb loads
>> from time to time, and likely run 700x38 tires (to leave the option open
>> for fenders)?
>>
>> If you've got something in your parts bin that fits the bill, send me a
>> PM. If buying used, I'd like to spend something in the $200 range (flexible
>> based on tubeless ready/dynamo/etc).
>>
>> Maybe I should just cut off the second top tube to shave grams? Maybe
>> then it'd plane
>>
>> Erik, Philly
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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yes! Rich is my hero and he builds all my wheels now, but back in the day I
read Jobst Brandt and built 2 wheelsets and an additional front dyno
wheel.  Hard to go wrong with a front wheel, so I say definitely go for it.
I went to my LBS and asked them to use their spoke calculator and they
bought me my spokes for the build.

Toshi in Oakland


On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 3:26 PM John A. Bennett  wrote:

> As long as Rich Lesnik walks the earth, I will not build my own wheels.
>
> John in Portland, Ore.
>
> On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:25:58 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:
>
>> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that
>> I haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge
>> too far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I
>> can at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride
>> in the means streets of DC and on some gravel.
>>
>> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a
>> competent wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once
>> for the first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds
>> for success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>>
>> Points of view encouraged.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 7 Speed to 9 Speed Conversion Question

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Ha! I was going to suggest cold setting the spacing to 130mm, like I did
with my (steel) Bianchi, but it's a carbon fiber bike, hence the wrong
forum, I guess...

Toshi


On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 7:42 AM Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 10:37:45 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Brian
>>
>> As with many things, how things go will depend on the details
>>
>> You say that the bike is running 7sp hyperglide right now.  That would
>> suggest a 126mm rear hub.  You claim the rear hub is a FH-1055, which is a
>> 126mm stock rear hub.  But then you go on to claim that the rear hub is
>> 130mm spacing.
>>
>> So, is it a FH1055 that somebody swapped the axle to 130mm later?
>> Is it a FH-1055 that somebody later swapped the axle and the freehub body
>> to make it 8/9/10 speed compatible, but continued to run a 7sp cassette
>> with a spacer, just for kicks?
>> Or is it actually a 126mm rear hub?
>>
>> If it really is a 7sp cassette running on there, with no spacer, then a
>> 9sp cassette just wont fit on that hub.  I think that's your first step.
>> Remove the existing cassette and look at what you actually have.  Take a
>> picture and share it if you need advice.  If your rear hub doesn't have the
>> right freehub body to take your 9-speed cassette then you may be stuck.
>> Sheldon Brown has the unambiguous photos of the different cassette bodies.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:57:40 AM UTC-8 Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I am helping a friend with a Kestrel 200 sc that is currently set up
>>> with 7-speed down tube shifters. It is a 7 speed Hyperglide cassette on a
>>> 105 level Shimano 105, FH-1055 rear hub and the rear spacing is 130mm.
>>>
>>> He wants to covert it to bar end shifters and provided me with a set of
>>> 9 speed, indexed Microshift bar end shifters.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if it is possible to to simply swap in a 9 speed cassette?
>>>
>>> Also, for anyone who might know, the rear derailleur in a 105, RD-1055
>>> what is the max cog size for that the RD can handle? 26 or 28?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Wow, an acornbags product that is actually in stock (at least as of now)!

Toshi


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:47 AM Dave S  wrote:

> https://acornbags.com/products/musette-bag
>
>
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> I was gifted, by a very kind soul, an old Riv Plain Musette made of
>> organic cotton, along with the 1996 Rivendell catalog that it's featured
>> in. Like the label implies, it's plain and simple. I'm planning to keep it
>> in my bike bag for those instances where I need to carry just a bit more
>> than the bag allows.
>>
>> I'm wondering if folks have recommendations for other musettes that work
>> well on a bike, but have a few more features (and more structure) than this
>> plain cotton one that I have. Even better, if you have one you'd like to
>> sell contact me off-list. The two that I've found so far that I like are
>> both out of stock (Riv's current Musette and one from Handy Bag).
>>
>> As an aside, in the last week I've found a new appreciation for my Riv
>> MUSA Pants when a pair of long johns are layered underneath. I tended not
>> to like the feel of cold nylon on my legs in the winter months, adding long
>> johns make these pants a dream.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Not a Riv but...

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Looks beautiful! The final improvement I would consider is a 650b
conversion...

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Help me build my new Roadeo. Part I, Wheels.

[Toshi Takeuchi]

My Roadeo uses A23s with WI T11s, and I love them.  The quill looks great
(wasn't an option at the time for me), but no O/C rim, which doesn't
detract much.

I would also recommend the GB Cypress or Compass equivalent. I would
recommend at least considering the EL version.  I bought GB Cypress EL, but
will probably not use them until the rains have ended next year.

Have fun!
Toshi

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Re: [RBW] HHH Run?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm height challenged with a 79 PBH, and the small fits using fatty rumpkin
tires.  The standover is not bad with a cm or two to spare (my 54 AHH has
less standover), but the bottom bracket is fairly low.  I don't have issues
with it, but I could see where it might cause issues.

Toshi


On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:34 AM Ginz  wrote:

> Looks like there may be another run of the HHH tandem, maybe possibly.
>
> Man, if they could do the Gus Boots curved top-tube to increase the
> standover for smaller riders (5'4"), I'd seriously consider buying one,
> hanging it in my basement and awaiting the growth of my kids.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Finding out how a Bike's Performance Changes with Changes to Components

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I like Zappos :).  (I've actually never used Zappos before).

Toshi


On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:30 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Steve Cole said:  "I don't believe we should have to make large cash
> outlays to understand whether a component will work well for us." "I
> believe bike shops have an important role to play that many are not
> filling."
>
> What role is that, exactly?  What would the shop have done exactly to make
> this your ideal transaction?  Is there another equipment industry that does
> things 'the right way' rhat the bike industry should emulate?
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, Ca
>
> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 3:19:50 AM UTC-7, Steve Cole wrote:
>>
>> I guess I did leave everyone hanging.  About two weeks ago, I had my
>> local bike shop trade out my old bars, shifters and grips for the new ones
>> I'd chosen.  Since then, I've been away about half the time.  My initial
>> impression having ridden may 100 miles is that the new setup is much better
>> for me than the old one.  A few observations:
>>
>> First, the grips I chose were the Ergon GC-1s.  I'd used Ergons on my
>> Scott and found them immensely comfortable.  The key, I believe, to finding
>> comfort with a low-sweep handlebar, and no doubt other bars, is to ensure
>> bar height minimizes pressure on the wrists.  Bars should be not too high,
>> not too low, just right.  The shape of the Ergons is designed to support
>> the "heel" of the hand.  At the right bar height and grip angle, this
>> should reduce pressure on the wrist/hand.  The GC-1 is spec'd for
>> handlebars with a modest sweep -- Bullmoose bars have a 30 degree sweep
>> (GP-1s are for lower sweep bars).  One other note on this.  I wrapped my
>> bars inside from the shifters to the stem with Lizard Skins Bar Tape, which
>> is a soft polymer for a second comfortable place to hold on.  I've used
>> cork, leather and cloth tape over the years. A friend recommended this tape
>> and I'm pretty impressed.
>>
>> Second. while I'm fairly confident in the decisions I've made, I find the
>> bars are a little wider than I would like.  They are 670mm wide.  In use,
>> my hands tend to slide to the inner part of the grips. For me, I think my
>> arms should be roughly 90 degrees from my torso when my hands are at the
>> optimal place on the grips.  I plan to cut them down this week about 1/2
>> inch or 15mm.  I'll try that and hopefully will have found the sweet spot.
>> If not, I'll cut them down a little more.
>>
>> Third, I love indexed trigger shifters and the Shimano XTs are working
>> flawlessly.  I used Shimano Dura Ace bar end shifters with my Albatross
>> bars,  These are also indexed shifters or can be set to be friction.  I
>> know there have been many threads discussing the benefits and costs of
>> indexed vs friction shifters.  I'll leave that discussion for elsewhere,
>> only to note that index shifting, for me, is simple, intuitive, and
>> mindless and helps me just enjoy the ride.
>>
>> I appreciate very much the comments left by others.  One reaction to one
>> comment.  I don't believe we should have to make large cash outlays to
>> understand whether a component will work well for us.  Unfortunately, once
>> we try it out, it's no longer new and can't be returned as such.  That's
>> why I believe bike shops have an important role to play that many are not
>> filling.  Perhaps the fact that switching out components without expense or
>> effort reflects the fact that most people are content with the as-is bikes
>> they purchase from the shops or on-line.  For me, I am an inveterate
>> tinkerer always seeking ways to make my ride even better.  I'm grateful to
>> my list colleagues who have tried something, chosen not to keep it and
>> offered it for sale on the list.  I've spent more than I care to say on
>> items I've purchased here.  Some day, I'll have my own parts bin sale.
>>
>> All best,
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, Virginia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:22:42 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak posted recently about converting a Riv Bike to low trail.
>>> Joe Bernard replied that he had done this only to find out he did not like
>>> low trail and that it was a little costly to find this out.  Boy, did this
>>> resonate with me.
>>>
>>> I have found it nearly impossible to understand the effect of a
>>> component change on my bike's performance without some, at least, modest
>>> investment, even when I do the work switching out parts myself.  While my
>>> most extensive experience relates to handlebars, I've also explored
>>> different wheel sizes, saddles, derailleurs, and assorted other
>>> components.  I'll share my handlebar experience because it seems
>>> instructive.
>>>
>>> From the time I was 16, I rode racing bikes.  It had always been clear
>>> to me, at least intellectually, that racing bike's drop handlebars, in
>>> addition to reducing wind resistance and increasing speed, offered great
>>> variation in hand positi

Re: [RBW] Carradice style saddlebag advice for 51cm Roadini?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

For a Roadini-style bike the Riv banana sack is a roomy bag that might
suffice.  If you want to go larger, then the Riv Saddle sack small should
fit.  The larger Acorn bags (if you can grab them when they are put on
sale) also follow a thin form factor that is good for us (height-challenged
folk).

Toshi


On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:24 PM Daniel D.  wrote:

> Decided I want a little bigger bag than just a seat pack.  Leaning towards
> a Carradice Pendle, Barley, etc..  Aesthetically the bikepacker bags don't
> do it for me.
>
> The question is fit on a smaller frame.  Am I stuck using a bagman
> support?  Is there enough clearance to use without a support?
>
> Pic tape measure head is in the saddle bag loop
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

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I'm no lightweight at ~150, but none of the Rivs I've owned have flexed for
me except the A Homer Hilsen loaded with about 30 lbs of groceries (54 cm
frame).  This includes the Roadeo/Ram/AHH/Cheviot/Custom.

Toshi


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> Probly but i think Its not the weight. Its the flex.
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm trying to distinguish frame flex from faster riding.  For me, I'm not
sure that a Roadeo and Roadini built to the same weight would ride any
faster.  Of course, I feel a dramatic difference when I go from my 35 lb
racked and bagged up Hilsen to my 22 lb Roadeo, but I doubt that much of
that is due to the tubing.  Would a similarly built up Ram and Roadeo feel
different?  Yes, I think the Roadeo would feel faster because it handles
faster.  I don't know if it would go any faster, but maybe once you get the
feel for the livelier-handling Roadeo other bikes would feel slow.  I don't
know if that has anything to do with the tubing, but that's hard to tell.
As far as frame flex/planing goes I don't notice any on my bikes--maybe a
little on the Roadeo when I'm mashing up hills out of the saddle, but not
convincingly noticeable--only on my heavily loaded AHH did I feel a
consistent spring from the frame flex...

I know that Bill built up his Roadini and it feels fast and he goes fast on
it.  I guess he might be a good person to comment on the tubing because he
has a lightish Roadini and a light Legolas...

Toshi


Toshi


On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 11:48 AM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> I am 147lbs and 5'8"
> For me a noticeable diff between Bleriot/Sam, then a step up in ease of
> pedalling to Ram, then a dramatic step up to Roadeo. I can also confirm the
> diffs in mph and cog diffs in familiar terrain. Higher toothcounts front
> and back on Roadeo and getting up hills easier than with the other bikes.
> Though I am not obsessed with speed, but want a bike that moves easily as
> I pedal along and doesn't bog down on hills and make me feel like I am
> fighting the bike.
>
> I am guessing the diff is in frame tubing because the Roadeo is definitely
> the more efficient bike, even with very similar Rivish build. Maybe
> chainstay length, too.
>
> Toshi is about same size as me and we ride same frame sizes.
> Perhaps our diffs are in fit measurements.
> Also, Toshi is a power Randonneur, so he can probably blast any bike down
> the road with ease.
> Where I am a weak rider and maybe can feel the diffs.
> I remember that BQ stated the most dramatic diffs felt in their tires are
> felt by weak/slow riders. Maybe the same for tubing diffs.
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Re: [RBW] Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Awesome ride, Bill!  Nice to see Leo perform so well.

Toshi


On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 8:48 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The poster previously known as Michael Levan, now known as Lum Gim Fong
> asked "Why not?" swap out my Leo Roadini for a different bike made of 6/4/6
> tubing.  He said I can have the fit and handling of a Leo Roadini, so I
> assume he means that he is recommending that I order a Custom Rivendell
> made with Leo Roadini geometry but with lighter, flexier tubing.  Assuming
> that is what he is recommending, then the list of Why Nots would include:
>
> 1. The Leo Roadini was $900, and a Rivendell Custom is $3500
> 2. A frame that weighs one pound less would make me plus my bike weigh
> 0.5% less.  I would be 0.5% faster on climbs, exactly the same speed on
> flats, and very slightly slower on descents.. In order to measure these
> things, I would have to do a detailed statistical analysis of Strava data.
> In other words, I would not look for it ,and not looking for it would mean
> I would not find it.
>
> Alternatively, Michael Levan (Lum Gim Fong) might have meant "why not buy
> a Roadeo instead?".  The list of "why nots" for a Roadeo would include:
>
> 1. The Leo Roadini was $900, and a Roadeo is $2600.
> 2. A Roadeo is a road race bike.  I'm not a road racer, and I don't use my
> Leo Roadini on road racing type rides.  I don't do 'club races'.  I don't
> do local crits.  The extra stability and comfort of a Leo Roadini are not
> detriments (for me).
> 3.  A frame that weighs one pound less would make me plus my bike weigh
> 0.5% less.  I would be 0.5% faster on climbs, exactly the same speed on
> flats, and very slightly slower on descents.. In order to measure these
> things, I'd have to do a detailed statistical analysis of Strava data.  In
> other words, I would not look for it ,and not looking for it would mean I
> would not find it.
>
> I get it that ML(LGF) for years dwelled on flexy tubing bikes, presumably
> from reading Jan Heine stuff.  Jan Heine knows that the weight of the bike
> doesn't matter.  Jan Heine prefers the feel of a flexier bike, but
> acknowledges that is an extremely nuanced, very subtle feeling.  The fact
> that ML(LGF) claims dramatic differences in 'feel' and large (~10%)
> differences in speed tells me that ML(LGF) wants his Roadeo to be a LOT
> faster, and so it is.  If you want your newest, lightest, raciest bike to
> be the best thing ever, you can easily convince yourself it is true.
> Personally, I want to have a huge stable of bikes. I want them to all be
> awesome in their own way. I want them all to be fun to ride and I want to
> enjoy all of them, and so I do. Human beings can convince themselves of all
> sorts of things, including me. I'm anticipating the day when ML(LGF) finds
> a used STANDARD DIAMETER 7/4/7 bike and finds that is EVEN BETTER than his
> Roadeo.
>
> There are things about the Roadeo that are distinctly desirable, and if
> you want one, and can afford one, you should buy one and try to enjoy it. I
> have no doubt in my mind that if I buy a Roadeo down the road I will enjoy
> it. There is no chance whatsoever that I'll be 10% faster on it. There are
> things that are distinctly desirable about the Leo Roadini, and if you want
> one and can afford one, you should buy one and try to enjoy it.  If you are
> incapable of enjoying a Leo Roadini, that says something about you, not the
> bike.  Don't get me wrong.  There are objectively bad bikes out there.  The
> Leo Roadini is not one of them.  The Roadeo is a great bike also.
> Different, but also great. I'm happy for ML(LGF) that he found a used
> Roadeo at a price he wanted to pay. I'm glad he enthusiastically likes it.
> It bums me out that he needs to insist that all his previous Rivendells
> 'fought him on hills'. I think his other bikes are also great and deserve
> to be enjoyed. If he can no longer enjoy them, I hope he moves them to
> people who can.
>
> Bill 'defender of all bikes' Lindsay
> El Cerrito CA
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 3:22:32 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>>
>> You can have fit, good handling, and a good build on a 6/4/6 Rivendell,
>> too. Why not?
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Re: [RBW] Re: No love for the Albastache?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I love my Albastache on my Cheviot.  It is the only non-drop bar single
bike that I own.  My brakes are on the curves up at the front of the bar.
The stem I use is 2 cm shorter than my drop bar stems.  With my hands at
the curves up at the front of the bar, it feels much like my drop bar road
bike--probably around the tops of the road bar.  With my hands at the end
of the Albastache, it feels quite upright and comfortable.

It's hard to imagine me going "fast" on the Cheviot (because it's not built
up to go fast), but I can easily imagine going very fast on Rich's Roadeo
(which I've taken for a little spin).  I'm not sure what flavor of Alba*
bars he has, but they felt nice!

I can't wait for Bill's ride report!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Stuff stolen from bike

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm really sorry to hear about your experience.  Maybe it was a fluke,
since it was the first time in 12 years.  I certainly hope so!

Toshi


On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 7:47 PM Pam Bikes  wrote:

> I've been riding for 12 years and for the first time ever having parked my
> bike in various cities all over, someone stole my helmet, went through my
> bags and stole a little bag w/my patch kit and my multitool.  They didn't
> steal lots of other stuff.  I carry everything.  But I guess I may start
> packing everything up and carrying it around.  I keep hoping it was a prank
> and my stuff will be returned.  It's just stuff.  I'd give it to them if
> they really needed it but it's the total lack of disrepect that bothers
> me.  I usually leave the 52 rolls of toilet paper on the rack while I run
> into Trader Joe's but now how do I run all my errands?  May need to take
> the trailer and pull it around the store.  But they may think I'm stealing
> stuff.  Gladly they didn't steal my USB werks, my cheapie blinkies, seat
> cover tucked under the seat, my $20 cash for change, my bamboo straw, my
> folding scissors, my reading glasses, my small roll of electrical tape, my
> tire lever, my spare zip ties, laminated maps, cable for u lock.  I think I
> still have my sunglasses but may need to check.  Thankfully my dyno lights
> are bolted on.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 3 day SF bike tour routes sought (Roadini)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi Antone,

Another route to consider based upon the San Francisco Randonneurs 300k
ride.  There are a few shortcuts to make it shorter that I can tell you
about--For example Sir Francis Drake to Nicasio valley Rd to a right on Pt.
Reyes-Petaluma rd will get you back on the route.  It will probably cut off
at least 10 miles from the ride and you can get to Wine country faster.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/1771223

The reason I recommend this route is because you get the Golden Gate
Bridge--take a slight detour when you get to the North end of the bridge.
Go up Conzelman Rd. to the first turnout and you get the BEST view of the
city and bridge.  You look down on the bridge and get a great vantage of
the city.  My brother proposed to his wife up near this area--stunning (but
a short but steep climb up here).  You can walk 300 ft up if needed but
it's worth it!!

The second benefit of this route is lots of the nice parts of wine country.

The third aspect you won't get going to Vallejo is the coast from Jenner to
Bodega Bay is stunning!  Rugged coastline with great views.  More great
riding through Tomales Bay and then get some chowder in Marshall and work
your way back to SF via Pt. Reyes Station.  Avoid some of the return
distance by taking the ferry from Larkspur or Sausalito and enjoy the ride
on the Bay.

Toshi in Oakland

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:46 PM lambbo  wrote:

> Thanks Randy and Collin!
>
> I think we will try Collin's route, it turns out my companion was thinking
> along the same lines already.  After looking at your map, I was wondering
> if there's a reason not to ride from Point Reyes through Santa Rosa and up
> to St. Helens (for the night) before heading down to the ferry?  I'm
> guessing you've ridden the ride you've suggested...  Would you recommend a
> direction to do it in?
>
> Thanks!
> Antone
>
> On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 3:51:16 PM UTC-5, Randy Franks wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is a figure-8 loop
>> ,
>> from the airport out to Half Moon Bay, down the coast to Pigeon Point (I've
>> always wanted to stay out at the lighthouse like this, but never done it).
>> Backtrack slightly north to start Day 2, turn inland and climb through the
>> Santa Cruz Mountains and ride north on Skyline Blvd/Canada Road/Sawyer Camp
>> Trail to Pacifica. Then Day 3 loops through San Francisco with a ride
>> across the Golden Gate Bridge, and down the Embarcadero before heading back
>> to the airport.
>>
>> Mileages are shorter than your 60/day suggestion due to the elevation
>> gain. There are some truly awesome climbs and the accompanying spectacular
>> views in that part of the world. Quite a few state highway miles, but they
>> are well-used cycling routes. My recollection riding all this solo, on
>> group rides, charity events, and a couple (gasp) road races is the
>> shoulders are almost all in good condition and quite wide.
>>
>> You could also go south on Day 2 from the lighthouse to city of Santa
>> Cruz, then back north into San Jose. Empire Grade would be the main route,
>> there are others, but it'll be a very hilly day of riding regardless of
>> route; stay off Highway 17.
>>
>> Public transit options to extend your reach in this area are BART and
>> Caltrain. If you end in the City, BART runs frequently and directly to the
>> airport. Caltrain runs from Gilroy north through San Jose, past SFO and
>> into SF, too. Involves a funky transfer onto BART to hit the airport. It's
>> a traditional commuter rail service; I'm not familiar with their schedules
>> and bike policies.
>>
>> I wish Amtrak was better connected, more frequent, and reliable in the
>> West, because riding SF to Carmel along the coast and catching the train
>> north from Salinas would be get you a lot of beautiful miles without much
>> sustained climbing.
>>
>> Happy planning!
>>
>>
>> -Randy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:42:56 PM UTC-8, lambbo wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm packing up my Roadini later this month and throwing it on Alaska Air
>>> to get out of NY and do a short tour from SF.
>>>
>>> We're seeking advice on beautiful routes for 

Re: [RBW] How to select a Brooks saddle

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I bought a C19 after I saw Riv sales were slow, mainly because I'm
commuting in the rain, and although I have a "waterproof" seat cover, it
really isn't that waterproof, and the leather seat gets quite damp.  My
first impressions of the C19 are that it isn't too wide, (I ride on a bike
with drops), but I prefer wider saddles--I have a Brooks swift, and I
prefer wider saddles than the Swift.

Anyhow, it is colder than my leather saddle, and it is a bid harder than my
broken in leather saddle, but no harder than a new Brooks...

It will do fine for my rainy commuter bike setup.  If I had a choice, then
I would probably go with a slotted version, but I don't know if a slotted
C19 exists.

Toshi


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:25 PM lambbo  wrote:

> I ride the c19 on my Cheviot, done a century and some other long rides on
> it, including off road and aggressive riding.  I have boscos so I'm pretty
> upright but it really feels fantastic and not too wide.  I've had two
> stolen, so sadly I'm going to stop buying new ones.
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Re: [RBW] Biking trip in CA?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

There's a nice bike path along the beach that goes from Redondo Beach up
towards Malibu.  There is a bit of a jaunt onto roads at Marina del Rey, so
you if you want to avoid that, then you can go from Venice up north through
Santa Monica until you feel like you want to turn around.  Venice/Santa
Monica is kind of fun to visit, so I would recommend that, and there is ice
cream and other food stalls/restaurants set up along the beach in Venice.

Toshi (it's raining in Oakland)


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> Everyone knows you meant "yahoos" in the most loving way, Leah, it's like
> "knuckleheads".
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Re: [RBW] Re: Self-diagnosed Riv addicts (some) since 1994.

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I got introduced to Rivendell by my friend who introduced me to road
riding.  He is a big fan of lugged steel bikes and showed me the Saluki and
told me that I needed to get that. At the time, I did my first road ride by
changing my mountain bike tires to slicks.  I enjoyed road riding, so I got
my first lugged frame off ebay.  It was a nice used Marinoni frame I
purchased.  This must have been around 2003-2004.

I appreciated the common sense approach to bicycling espoused by Rivendell
and latched onto the comfort and safety of wider tires.  I had my first
child and wanted to take him on a trailer, so I got a used Surly Pacer that
accepted "wide" 32 mm 700c tires.  Using wide tires was a life and death
matter for me because the roads were not always maintained, and there was a
highly publicized local death near my house on Grizzly Peak Blvd. when a
rider lost control on the road and went into incoming traffic--presumably
due to poor road conditions.

At this point, I was doing some long distance riding, and riding on a
comfortable Rivendell was a big dream for me.  I broke into this dream when
I purchased a used Riv Rambouillet.  I built up this bike myself and rode
several brevets up to a 400k.  At this point, I wanted even wider tires and
more comfort, so I bought my first new Riv, the A Homer Hilsen.  I put 38
mm Parimoto 650b tires and was sold on comfortable 650b frames.  My first
big ride was a 600k on this bike.

During this period, the randonneur's dream tire was the 650b Grand Bois
Hetre.  The Parimoto was nice, but going to 42 mm was supposed to be the
optimum of comfort and speed.  I bought into that idea and converted my
Rambouillet to 650b and honestly did find that the 42mm tires were
amazing.

At this point I ditched the Surly Pacer and made the A Homer Hilsen my
commuter.  The 650b Ram became my brevet bike and I did a whole ride series
up to 600k with the Ram.  The Marinoni was too twitchy and had a carbon
front fork to boot, so it had to go and I bought a Roadeo for my "faster"
road ride.  The carbon fork is a big deal, as an acquaintance of mine who
also did double centuries came to the top of Coleman Valley climb and as he
was approaching the summit, the fork fell apart and he crashed.  If he were
100 feet farther along on the descent, he might have been dead.

Anyhow, I managed to do the Triple Crown Stage Race--not really a race for
my buddy and I as we were the Lanterne Rouge, but we finished three of the
toughest double centuries within the time limit (which was a challenge for
the Terrible Two).  Anyhow the Roadeo had plenty of good use there.

The Ram was a great bike, but it was a bit kludgey as it was converted to
650b and the brakes barely fit and the dynamo lighting required wires
everywhere, and the front rack used P-clamps.  As you can tell, I just HAD
to have a custom :-).   The custom rides beautifully, it's so stable and
comfortable and beautiful.  I rode the SF Randonneurs Populaire this
weekend, and I should have taken a picture as there were 50-60 bikes all
lying on the grass, and my lone bike upright with a kick stand.  OK, I did
take the kickstand off for the 600k, but I tell you kickstands are way
underrated in the rando scene.

Anyhow, I bought my wife a Betty Foy which is the best bike she has ever
ridden by far, and my family and I love the Hubbah Hubbah tandem.  I even
got a Cheviot with Albastache bars.  I won't get any more Rivs in the near
future unless they are for my kids or I want a divorce :-), but I am still
dreaming of a mountain tourer when I have more time to do such stuff!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Biking trip in CA?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yeah Venice to Malibu is iconic S. California with muscle beach in Venice,
the pier in Santa Monica and surfing in Malibu!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] 31.8 Quill Stems

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If you have the bars, then you probably have the stems, so why not get the
quill adapter and clamp the road stem with the bar onto the adapter?  I
find that this method is nicer than the 31.8 quill, since you might have
different lengths and angles of road stems.

Toshi


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> I have a bunch of 31.8 road bars in the bin and I will likely use them for
> the Roadini.  Just curious if anyone has tried the Origin 8 31.8 quills?
> The VO one is 80 bucks and that is a bit rich for my budget.  Since I need
> to get a quill for it anyhow, I might as well just use my existing road
> bars and get a stem instead of another bar plus a stem.  I know it won't
> have the classic look but classics don't cover my wallet.
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Re: [RBW] Lack of Betty Foys for sale.

[Toshi Takeuchi]

At least in my family, the Betty Foy owner is perfectly happy with the bike
and might never need another bike, whereas the other half might have a
little upgradeitis.  I'll leave it to the discerning reader to figure out
who is who :).

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: How to select a Brooks saddle

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My C19 all weather looks to be 179/180 mm wide and 270 long.

Toshi


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:59 AM John Phillips  wrote:

>Has anyone measured the width & length of their Cambium C19? Brooks
> says all versions of the C19 are 275mm long & 184mm wide.
>
> I was about to order the All Weather Carved C19 after reading some people
> found carved version to be a bit more comfortable, but I wasn't sure if my
> sit bones would fit between the rivets.  Then I remembered I had one of the
> older original C19's sitting somewhere in the closet. So I dug it out, sat
> on it and tested where my sit bones were, then I measured the distance
> between the rivets, the overall width and overall length.
>
> My C19 is 176mm wide and 270mm long, not the 184mm wide and 275mm long
> listed on the Brooks England website.
>
> So, could anyone tell me what the actual dimensions of the new All Weather
> version of the C19 actually are?
>
> Maybe I'm just cranky today, and this doesn't amount to a hill of beans,
> but if the All Weather C19's are even less wide, I'd like to know before I
> order one.
>
> Thanks much,
> John
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Re: [RBW] clean-ish routing for generator lights

[Toshi Takeuchi]

On my Homer I run along the top tube using helicopter tape.  It's clear and
unobtrusive.  When I get to my rear rack, I go back to zip ties. and I put
electrical tape over any place the wires may rub against luggage.

Toshi


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> I just added dyno power and front/rear lights to my Sam. The cabling in
> the front along the 27f Nitto rack is straightforward enough, but I am
> looking for a clean-ish solution for the rear lamp that is mounted along
> the left side seatstay.
>
> Any cool tricks for routing and securing the cable? This bike now lives
> fender-free, and sees a lot of dirt action, making me think of staying away
> from the down tube and instead running under the top tube. What do folks
> use to secure and/or hide the cable? Packing tape? Tiny zip ties?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
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Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi Neil,

3M makes some helicopter tape.  It is more expensive, but it won't rip off
the paint from your bike if you need to adjust the tape.  I think that
would be the benefit of paying more for the tape.

Toshi


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> Collin, nifty idea! I wouldn't mind a pic or two if you get time. But it
> sounds like you might be working with coaxial cable, which is thicker 'n'
> stiffer than what I am using, and likely better suited to those P
> clamps...but I do have some of those clamps somewhere...
>
> Ttoshi, yes, I have seen reference to helicopter tape. I wonder, for this
> application, would regular 3M packing tape do the trick? I kinda like your
> idea of running under the top tube with tape, then tape or zip ties as
> needed in the rear triangle.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Don't know about packing tape--probably depends on tape and paint. Will
masking tape take paint off walls or do you pay extra for the blue tape?
Probably a similar thing...

Toshi


On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 2:27 PM Kurt Manley  wrote:

> Will regular packing tape damage the paint when you take it off? Asking
> for an, umm, friend who taped their dynamo wire to the bottom of the top
> tube w packing tape
>
> On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:12:21 AM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> 3M makes some helicopter tape.  It is more expensive, but it won't rip
>> off the paint from your bike if you need to adjust the tape.  I think that
>> would be the benefit of paying more for the tape.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 10:15 AM Neil Doran  wrote:
>>
>>> Collin, nifty idea! I wouldn't mind a pic or two if you get time. But it
>>> sounds like you might be working with coaxial cable, which is thicker 'n'
>>> stiffer than what I am using, and likely better suited to those P
>>> clamps...but I do have some of those clamps somewhere...
>>>
>>> Ttoshi, yes, I have seen reference to helicopter tape. I wonder, for
>>> this application, would regular 3M packing tape do the trick? I kinda like
>>> your idea of running under the top tube with tape, then tape or zip ties as
>>> needed in the rear triangle.
>>>
>>> Thanks all! The Bunch rules for this stuff...
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hey, I rode that bike and I'm 5'7" with 79.5 PBH.

Toshi


On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 9:00 PM Mike K.  wrote:

> Holy smokes. He’d put me on a 62?? I’d be riding around like Superman on
> that bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: No response from Riv ...

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hmm, I've emailed Grant, Will, and Jenny recently, and it is fairly unusual
for me not to receive a reply from anyone, so maybe there is an outgoing
gmail problem with Riv.  It was clear that they probably saw my email
because they were able to accommodate my request regarding an order...

Hmm.

Toshi


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:31 AM Ash  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> There seems to be a problem with Will's email system.  Better to call him.
>
> Yesterday I was at Rivendell HQ to pick up my new Appaloosa frame.  I
> mentioned to Will about my emails to him over last few months to which I
> had not received response.  He looked up the outbox on his laptop and I
> could see that he had indeed responded to all of my queries.  There's
> nothing from Will in my Gmail.  It is a mystery.   This's something for Riv
> to investigate with their business email provider.
>
> Ash
>
>
> On Wednesday, 27 February 2019 10:39:51 UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I emailed some time ago to donate my recent $25 gift certificate either
>> back to the asset side of the balance sheet, or to a needy cyclist, but no
>> one responded; think it was to Will. Who best to contact about this?
>>
>> It's not a big deal, but I don't want $25 useful dollars (actually, $50
>> if they still have an earlier $25 certif on the liability side) to sit
>> forever in limbo.
>>
>> Tx.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

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I don't know about "new" unless >~10 years old is new, or there's something
newer than what I have.  Anyhow, my hooks on top latch closed around the
rack.  This is extremely secure and works well.  Once you get the hang of
disengaging it, it is easy to remove.  The anti-sway hook on the bottom
works ok.  I had one fall off and had to get a new one, but the pannier
will definitely not fall off the rack--with or without the anti-sway hook
engaged.  I prefer the Carradice hooks to the Ortlieb closure (the one
where you pull up on the strap and the bag releases from the rack).  The
Ortlieb closure seems very size specific (in regard to the rack tubing
diameter), whereas the Carradice accommodates a wider range and can tighten
around different diameter racks no problem.

Toshi

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:28 AM John Bokman  wrote:

> Does anyone have the "new" Super C's with the cam-style hooks and lower
> securing clip?
> I'm curious if the "new" mounting system is:
> 1. As secure as a standard good ol' hooks and bungee system, and
> 2. A hassle to get on and off?
>
> I love Carradice stuff, but am dubious about this securing system.
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Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi John,

I use the front Super Cs on the rear Nitto big rack  (Campee?) from Riv but
also on old man mountain racks and blackburn racks with no issues.  I also
use the Super C commuter bag on the Nitto rear rack with no issues (as
expected, since they have the same attachment principle).

Toshi


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:24 AM john Bokman  wrote:

> Thanks for the information Toshi.
> We are talking about the same bags.
> Good to know they are secure and easy enough to engage and disengage.
> Are you using these on a Rivendell rack, or some other?
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
> I don't know about "new" unless >~10 years old is new, or there's
> something newer than what I have.  Anyhow, my hooks on top latch closed
> around the rack.  This is extremely secure and works well.  Once you get
> the hang of disengaging it, it is easy to remove.  The anti-sway hook on
> the bottom works ok.  I had one fall off and had to get a new one, but the
> pannier will definitely not fall off the rack--with or without the
> anti-sway hook engaged.  I prefer the Carradice hooks to the Ortlieb
> closure (the one where you pull up on the strap and the bag releases from
> the rack).  The Ortlieb closure seems very size specific (in regard to the
> rack tubing diameter), whereas the Carradice accommodates a wider range and
> can tighten around different diameter racks no problem.
>
> Toshi
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:28 AM John Bokman  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have the "new" Super C's with the cam-style hooks and lower
>> securing clip?
>> I'm curious if the "new" mounting system is:
>> 1. As secure as a standard good ol' hooks and bungee system, and
>> 2. A hassle to get on and off?
>>
>> I love Carradice stuff, but am dubious about this securing system.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Carradice Super C Pannier question

[Toshi Takeuchi]

--My lower hook does not attach.  It only stays in place by hooking onto a
vertical rail and by the top hooks being constrained by either a edge or a
rail so that it cannot slide on top.  Therefore the bottom hook placement
is very rack specific.  You would need to relocate the position to find the
appropriate vertical rail if you are concerned about the pannier moving
from side to side or out/in when it bumps.

Toshi


On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:29 PM john Bokman  wrote:

> Thanks for the advice.
> Are they easy to remove from the bike? Looks like there’s a pinch
> mechanism?
> (Im used to panniers with a bungee and S hook to hold the bag under
> tension, you see).
>
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 1:20 PM, DarinM  wrote:
>
> I have a set which I believe use the system you're describing. I have no
> complaints about the mounting system and have used them on pretty rough
> stuff. I have used them on a Tubus Tara and a Nitto 34f/Big Front Rack. The
> lower hook does seem a little flimsy, but again I haven't had issues. I
> would just take a bungy or strap to put around the outside if I was more
> worried about that hook on another tour.
>
> Darin
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 11:24:37 AM UTC-8, John Bokman wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the information Toshi.
>> We are talking about the same bags.
>> Good to know they are secure and easy enough to engage and disengage.
>> Are you using these on a Rivendell rack, or some other?
>>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>> I don't know about "new" unless >~10 years old is new, or there's
>> something newer than what I have.  Anyhow, my hooks on top latch closed
>> around the rack.  This is extremely secure and works well.  Once you get
>> the hang of disengaging it, it is easy to remove.  The anti-sway hook on
>> the bottom works ok.  I had one fall off and had to get a new one, but the
>> pannier will definitely not fall off the rack--with or without the
>> anti-sway hook engaged.  I prefer the Carradice hooks to the Ortlieb
>> closure (the one where you pull up on the strap and the bag releases from
>> the rack).  The Ortlieb closure seems very size specific (in regard to the
>> rack tubing diameter), whereas the Carradice accommodates a wider range and
>> can tighten around different diameter racks no problem.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:28 AM John Bokman  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have the "new" Super C's with the cam-style hooks and lower
>>> securing clip?
>>> I'm curious if the "new" mounting system is:
>>> 1. As secure as a standard good ol' hooks and bungee system, and
>>> 2. A hassle to get on and off?
>>>
>>> I love Carradice stuff, but am dubious about this securing system.
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Re: [RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I had trouble donating, but it is fixed now, so hopefully we can get enough
to provide an HHH to the San Diego blind stoker's club.

Toshi


On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:16 PM David Bivins  wrote:

> What a great bunch you are! Your kindness is infectious - I donated.
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:50 AM Bob Lovejoy  wrote:
>
>> Something akin to a bump, but here is the thread for the renewed, 2.0
>> campaign...
>>>
>>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/jpYTGIwgMEc/Eyogj9YjFAAJ
>>
>>
>> https://www.gofundme.com/riv-hhh-tandem-fundraiser-20?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=campaign_link_t&utm_campaign=welcome
>>
>> Cold, frozen but at least the sun is out here...
>>
>> Bob
>> Galesburg, IL
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Re: [RBW] Enable my bicycle buying issues!

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Keith, I can assure you that the AHH will feel way closer to a Roadeo than
a Disc Trucker.  I had a Surly Pacer, which is supposed to be a faster road
bike compared to the Long Haul Trucker, but it still felt like a tank
compared to my AHH.  My Roadeo is no doubt more sprightly than the AHH, but
it is close.  The AHH is one bike that I have that I am confident can do
everything.  I have ridden club rides, gone on a 600k Rando ride, ridden on
fire roads and single track, and carried 30 lb loads in rear panniers.  The
Ram is no doubt a nice bike, but unless you are committed to converting to
650b to allow wider tires, I would definitely go with the AHH instead.  I
love the versatility of the AHH and would recommend it for anyone, so I
would go that route.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell tinkering..

[Toshi Takeuchi]

To me, a Riv, above all needs to be functionally sound and should be
ridden.  You'd want to use stuff that works and will last a while.  Beyond
that, I would say put on whatever makes you happy or whatever parts you
have that are ready to use and ride with.

My custom is a mishmash of high-end mixed with Shimano derailleurs and
plastic fenders, but is perfect and beautiful to me. As long as the bike
gives joy to the rider, then it's a Riv in my book...

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Friction vs Indexed

[Toshi Takeuchi]

After riding with STI brifters for many years, I thought that friction
would suck, but it is smooth and I don't miss my STI shifters a bit.

You can get Shimano levers with indexed and friction modes and you can
decide if you like friction or not.  When indexed works, it is great, and
there is no reason to use friction, but if it doesn't work, then it sucks
and I hate to mess with quarter turns of the cable to shift properly etc.
and would rather avoid the hassle and just use friction.

Toshi


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> I like both. I love friction on 7/8 speed drivetrains that I use with a
> triple for touring. I like indexed for my 2x9 speed drivetrains. I ride my
> bikes off pavement a lot and don’t like having to trim and search for the
> sweet spot too much which I found was necessary (for me) when friction
> shifting 9 speed on dirt or gravel.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FT: My 54.5cm MIT AHH for your 54cm AHH or Saluki

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm very similar.  I have a 68.5 saddle height and 69.5 PBH.  The 54 AHH is
at the tall end of my spectrum--I think my custom ended up being 52.5.  My
inseam is 30 inches and the standover height with 38 mm Soma Xpress is
about 30 inches.  The new 54.5 AHH might be too big for me.  The 51 should
be fine for me, since it has a slightly more upward sloping top tube.

Toshi


On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 9:55 AM phil k  wrote:

> As I've responded to RDS:
>
> My pbh is 80cm. Saddleheight is 68.5 but have dropped it to 67cm these
> days. No issues, I would just like to size slightly smaller to lower my
> handlebars a bit more, but 51cm is too small.
>
> I'm also willing to trade for a 53cm Atlantis.
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 4:13:02 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>>
>> I am debating b/t a 54.5 ahh & 53 Atlantis.  What is your pbh & seat
>> height on the ahh? How is it too big for you?   What size tires & what is
>> stand over height?  51 will be too small & 54.5 will be borderline too big
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Re: [RBW] Tolkien themed MIT Atlantis

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Definitely heartwarming to hear about your daughter and your family.  May
you have many wonderful adventures together.

Toshi in Oakland, CA

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 4:54 PM Rachel P  wrote:

> Hi folks!-new to posting the list but have been following for a few years.
>
> That's our (er, my daughter's) Tolkien-mobile so a shout out to Candice
> and James for the build :). We are now a Riv squared family: my completely
> orange Cheviot and her Atlantis. Seven bikes in the garage now--car's been
> kicked to the curb for the last 3 years. Or maybe 8 bikes now since my son
> just got a new bigger Raleigh. My husband will converted soon so we'll be
> Riv Cubed in a year I reckon.
>
> James and Candice spiffed my All-City Space Horse up for a triathalon
> (don't ask: partially done for a dare and I didn't drown so it was a good
> race esp when you have glitter on your handlebars!!) so we went back to
> them for her bike after trawling many a bike store big and
> small--Goldilocks knows what she wants and it was in a cabin in VT!
>
> The most awesome thing was watching my daughter and Candice go out to
> check out the fit and having her come back with a Cheshire cat grin--we
> have already been out to Walden Pond this weekend and had a blast since it
> was a rare 60 degrees and sunny in New England.
>
> I had confidence I wasn't the only parent who purchased a Riv for a teen
> (thank you Bicycle Belle--I love reading about your adventures!!) and I
> thought, well, she's 1) not getting a car from us since driving in the
> greater Boston area is a fool's errand with the traffic 2) she has not ever
> asked for a new computer or smartphone and 3) likes to ramble outside--so
> why not? It's costs as much  but more valuable than a smartphone and a Mac
> Airbook.  And she and her father adore the Hobbit--the troll bit about
> mutton always comes out if I ever serve the same dish for dinner twice: one
> day I might just have to serve mutton!
>
> It seemed fate that she and this bike would meet and go off exploring
> together for many years -- planning for lots of rambles this summer and
> fall and winter (and at least one bike repair class for her: just finished
> outfitting 2/3 of the bikes in the fleet with their own flat and tool kit,
> whew!).
>
> Three cheers for an excellent set of wheels!
>
> Rachel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 5:00:08 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Analog (James, et al.): You are amazing. I am in awe that you dreamed
>> up and then carried out the idea to include whole passages of Tolkien on
>> this Rivendell bike. This is just fantastic. Hits all the pleasure centers
>> in my brain - bikes, books, endearing quotes, darling teenagers who are
>> showing such promise... You folks are truly talented and artistic - thanks
>> for sharing this here - what a treat!
>>
>> 2. I’d LOVE to see/read an interview with this girl. To be this directed
>> and precise and artsy at age 13 is nothing short of astounding. (I have a
>> 13 yo boy who rides a 45 cm Clem, and he is nothing like this other child!)
>> Is she on Instagram? Oh, how I would love to follow her adventures.
>>
>> 3. And who says kids can’t have Rivendells, huh?!? Best thing I’ve seen
>> in a long time!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Making Question

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I use a Porlex grinder and French Press when I'm camping.  Depending upon
how many I'm making for, sometimes I'll pregrind before camping and go with
a larger press.  If it's just me or my wife and I, then I'll grind for
myself and use a small French Press.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I agree.  I like to wave my thanks and give thumbs up.  I think the more
the drivers see you as a person instead of an object on the road (a bike),
the more respect and patience you will receive.

Toshi


On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> The waving thing is very underrated. I do a lot of eye-and-hand
> communicating with drivers to signal things like "gimme a minute, I gotta
> jet past this row of parked cars before moving right", then give a little
> wave of "thanks" afterward. I can't verify it, but I would swear the next
> 5-10 cars behind me give more room after seeing the interaction with the
> first one. Like, "Oh, he's a real person on the road out here with us, and
> actually understands we want to get through this safely, too." I think car
> drivers appreciate being politely educated on the situation the cyclist is
> navigating.
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Re: [RBW] The Most Disappointing Bike: A Satire

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Great story Leah,

One thing you might tell your friend is that there is a best bike for the
task at hand.  Don't ride a race bike unless you are racing or need to race
at your peak to keep up with the people you want to ride with.  Get another
bike that is comfortable, suitable to carry things on a rack and fendered
with a kickstand(!) for those other rides when racing is not needed.

I am more roadie than casual, and wear my clickety-clacks (road cleats on
one bike, recessed MTB cleats on the others) because I believe that they
will help me achieve what I want on the bike, but I am fortunate enough to
have the finances and space for multiple bikes.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Yeah, but the reverse side of the T-shirt should say "Fulfilling the
appreciative since 1994."

Toshi

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:28 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Grant said:  " this bike is bound to disappoint throngs, but not by intent"
>
> THERE is your next T-Shirt:
>
> "Unintentionally disappointing throngs since 1994"
>
> You are welcome. You do you. :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Randonneuring on Rivendells

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I owe the group an update on my custom randonneuring Riv, but yes,
Rivendells are plentiful in the rando scene here in the Bay Area, CA.  I
rode 200ks on my Roadeo with 32mm GB Cypress tires, no fenders.
 200k/300k/400k with 700c Rambouillet, 32mm Paselas, 600k with A Homer
Hilson, Parimoto 38 mm with fenders. 650b Rambouillet--full series
200k-600k, 42 mm Hetre with fenders.  Custom rando Riv 300k, 600k
("skipped" 400k this yr), 42 mm Hetre with fenders.

Usually trunk sack small for front rack and Acorn sm/md or Riv banana bag
for seat bag.  For 600k I use a Acorn boxy rando bag for the front. Front
bag is highly recommended for easy access to food and other key items
without any fuss.

If you don't want to put a Mark's Rack on the Roadini, then you could get a
small handlebar bag to put a few goodies in, and maybe small top tube
container --that is what I do on my Roadeo rides.

I like the ability to not fuss with batteries and use a dynamo system.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] You like Hetres or Compass 42's better?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I like paying less money for the Hetres.  I like having more miles with the
"extra" tread on the Hetres.  The Compass has better performance--weighs
less--maybe corners better, but it doesn't matter enough for me to pay that
much more for that.  I paid $118 for 2 Hetre EL tires.  It would have cost
$164 for the Compass Baby Shoe Pass EL tires.

Toshi


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wrote:

> Jan has said that Hetres are great, but Compass tires are improved upon
> those.
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Lum Gim Fong 
> wrote:
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>> You like Hetres or Compass 42's better?
>> Why?
>>
>> Needing a replacement soon and wanted to get some feedback.
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Re: [RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

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I am about 150 lbs and think that the AHH that I have rides well with about
30 lbs of gear on my rear rack. If the Atlantis is a bit more stout than
the AHH, then I would lean toward an AHH or the Hillborne for you, since
you are about 25 lbs lighter than me.

I am favoring the Hillborne for gravel riding because it seems to handle a
little more tire clearance compared to the AHH.  I've ridden my AHH on
single-track and it rides fine, but if I had a load, then I might want
wider tires.

I think the Sam Hillborne seems like an ideal "one bike".

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Outside article on CF

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Well another anecdote, but a guy I know was cresting on a big climb (up
Coleman Valley here in the SF Bay Area) and his carbon fork fell apart.
Needless to say, his ride was ruined, but if the fork failed on the steep
descent a few meters ahead, then his life might have been ruined.

Needless to say, he doesn't ride with a carbon fork anymore.  No doubt it
is nice to go faster up a hill on a light bike, but is going a few seconds
faster here and there worth it?

Toshi


On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:24 PM Leslie  wrote:

> Given our perspectives on steel, carbon fiber, and bicycles, I thought
> this was a relevant article to share here:
>
> https://www.outsideonline.com/2311816/carbon-fiber-bike-accidents-lawsuits
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB 63cm Roadeo/Riv Road Frameset

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The Roadeo is lighter and faster steering than the Ram, and that is a
noticable difference to me.  What may not be as appreciated is that the
design of the Roadeo is different from the Ram in that the top tube is
shorter (at least in my 53/54cm size, and I think for other sizes too).

This means, all other things equal, the bars are closer to you, which means
to obtain that same comfort zone, you drop lower--i.e. you ride in your
drops more.My Roadeo has the most comfortable drops of any bike I own,
and it is more comfortable than the bar tops or hoods.  This mindset takes
into account the more aggressive position and "faster" riding that I would
want to do on the Roadeo compared with the Ram.

Some people want to retain the same exact cockpit on every bike they own,
but that doesn't really take into account the type of riding you are
doing.  Why be in an aggressive aerodynamic position on a casual ride on
the bike path with your kids?  Having multiple bikes allows you to both
tweak the bike (in terms of racks/luggage weight), as well as the rider
position to match/reflect the bike characteristics.

For me the Roadeo "character" is more than just the weight or tubing.

Best,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom bike report

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hi all,

Thanks for the weight-saving tips and kind compliments.  I usually use
padded bike shorts or bibs for rides over 50 miles long.  For shorter rides
I'll usually use the MUSA shorts and knickers.  I did rides in the rain and
the fender coverage was excellent and I didn't notice spray going around
the sides or near the fender flap.  It was never an issue on my 650b
Rambouillet either...

Best,
Toshi


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> Nice to see your bike again Toshi. It’s stunning. Well done on the long
> rides too!
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> Best,
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Re: [RBW] Recommendation for small tire pump

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Yeah, Lezyne and Topeak Morph/mini Morph are the two brands/lines of pumps
I would recommend, mainly for the flexible hose to the tube valve, good
pumping and relatively small size.

Toshi


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> This topic comes up periodically so forgive me for raising it yet again! I
> need a good pump that will fit inside a Medium Sackville bag.
> Lezyne is one that comes to mind and I believe I've seen it recommended
> here.
>
> Thank you for your comments.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Lights - Sinewave, IQX, Schmidt?

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Bob, the use of asymmetrical beams is like using your hi-beams on your car.
  The hi-beams basically light up the tree tops, so you would have to lower
your beam into the ground so the top of the symmetrical beam does not shine
into people's eyes.  Asymmetrical beams have a very sharp cutoff.  When I
go down the bike path, all I see are people's legs.  You can't even see
their torso or head.  Try walking down a path with a symmetrical beam and
see how low you have to aim the beam so you can't see the torso of a walker
coming up to you.  I bet you will basically be aiming it at the ground a
couple feet in front of you.

Toshi


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> I use a Sinewave Beacon on and off-road and love it. Highly recommended!
>
> As an aside, I have read about symmetrical and asymmetrical beams before,
> but I don’t really understand why I shouldn’t use a symmetrical beam
> on-road. Isn’t the light still far less bright than, say, a car’s
> headlights? Can’t I just aim the beam bit more at the ground than I would
> off-road so it doesn’t shine in drivers’ eyes? I’m open to being way wrong
> here, so any explanations are appreciated!
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The TRP levers are far superior in ergonomics (for me) when braking on
descents etc.  The major difference that you might notice is the flatness
in terms of the transition from the bars to the hoods.  The Shimano has a
very smooth/unnoticeable transition (on the bars I've tried), whereas you
might notice a little bump for the TRP levers, but the gain in ergonomics
makes it worth it for me to have the TRPs.

Toshi


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Re: [RBW] Front vs. rear loads for AHH

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I personally use a Nitto big rear rack with panniers, but with only 10 lbs,
you can also use a larger size saddle sack with a small rack as a support.
I also have a Mark's rack up front with a front bag.  It should do fine
with a basket and 10 lbs, but yeah, the rear rack would handle better...

Toshi


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> I am in the market for a rack for my Hilsen.  It would be light loads,
> 10lbs max, and I want to run a basket on it.  I figured people here would
> have advice/opinions on front vs rear loads on the Hilsen, and maybe even a
> specific rack recommendation.
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Re: [RBW] Berthoud fender installation questions

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FWIW I had excellent coverage with my SKS longboard running 650b Hetre
tires on my converted Ram.  I had no problems with SKS fender installation.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] front rack bag for a 54ram. what do people here like.

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I rode with Mark's rack mounted with P-clamps and a Sackville small
trunksack or Acorn rando bag if you want more space.  I think the handling
was a bit slower with a rack/bag combo, but for me it never felt wobbly.

Toshi


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> and decaleur?
>
> thanks
>
> bo
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> anyone have something good they would part with?
> have a few trade goods
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Riv Custom Complete on LA Craigslist

[Toshi Takeuchi]

My opinion about a Joe Bell paint job is that I put a kickstand plate on my
custom and use a kickstand on my bike (except on 600k+ rides) so I can
protect the paint!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Riv Custom Complete on LA Craigslist

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'll follow up this comment with an experience with my wife's Betty Foy.  I
bought the bike for her and was picking it up at RBW.  I didn't have a
kickstand on any bike, so I didn't get one with the Betty Foy.  The first
thing I do is lean in on a pole so I can get ready to load it into the car,
and sure enough it slips and scratches the paint in two places.  Boy did I
feel horrible and my wife was MAD!  I beat her bike up before leaving the
parking lot, ugh!  I did learn my lesson and I baby my bikes now when I can
:).

Toshi


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> My opinion about a Joe Bell paint job is that I put a kickstand plate on
> my custom and use a kickstand on my bike (except on 600k+ rides) so I can
> protect the paint!
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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Another tidbit from interbike:

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2018/09/19/first-time-exhibitor-rivendell-showing-new-model-designed-dirt#.W6QAeC-ZP-Y



On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:01 AM Jeremy Till  wrote:

> I'm fairly certain the sample is using 650b Velocity Cliffhangers:
>
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>
> 30mm external width, tubeless compatible, rim brake rims. I've been using
> the 700c version on my CleMTB and have been quite satisfied with them, and
> I wouldn't be surprised if these ended up being the go-to rim for Gus.
>
> On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 9:40:03 AM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> Just to be clear my concern is Not With rim brakes; it mostly centers
>> around what would have to be a wider then normal rim brake rim for this
>> particular model. I am could be wrong (hopefully), but are they putting
>> 2.8" tires on standard Atlas/Velocity rims? Otherwise all the wide 27.5
>> rims I am aware of are disk brake only!??  Maybe Alex makes something? I've
>> poked around enough looking for 650b rims, I can't imagine there's any I
>> haven't tripped over. So I have to assume they are made to order
>> (translation: proprietary) if so good luck finding them down the road or at
>> a reasonable price. (And 29ers are only slightly better maybe?)
>> I guess in the future one could forgo the super wide tires & go with
>> normal tires/rims pretty easily, but . . .
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Re: [RBW] Heard my first "Hey, nice Riv!" today. Felt chuffed

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I was quite surprised when my wife and I were taking a spin a couple
hundred feet from our place on her first ride on her Riv, when a guy (who I
didn't know) said, "Hey, nice bike, is that a Betty Foy?"

Wow, who wouldda thunk it?

Toshi
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Jersey

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm not sure why Riv stopped selling bike jerseys.  I think it went along
with their thinking that having a bike specific shirt inhibits you from
just riding.  While I agree with that in principle, I don't like sticking
my phone/wallet in my bike bag, and having items in the jersey pockets is
way better than having them in pants pockets while riding.

Toshi


On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:34 AM Bob Lovejoy  wrote:

> I am not sure of the history but there were these...
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-Jersey-2005-Small-Wool-very-rare/232959864082?hash=item363d7d6d12:g:6-8AAOSwdU9bvWIV:rk:2:pf:0
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:11:01 PM UTC-5, lconley wrote:
>>
>> Interesting reactions to this.
>>
>> It is not a "counterfeit" Rivendell jersey, it is a "fake" Rivendell
>> jersey, given that there are no Rivendell jerseys to copy that I know of.
>> ...
>>
>> Laing
>> Cocoa, FL
>>
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Re: [RBW] Roadini as commuter?

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I setup my Ram bike with a Mark's rack up front--yes with P-clamps, but it
did the job just fine.  I rode 2 600k brevets on it and it held up fine,
and I had to carry a good amount up front and in my saddlebag.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8176967200/in/dateposted-public/

Toshi

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[RBW] Upright bars--my Cheviot review

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm basically a drop bar guy, but I love my wife's Betty Foy, so I thought
it would be great to have a bike that I can just ride on with no fuss and I
have it pitlocked so I can take it to the grocery and not have to worry
about it getting stuff stolen too easily.

The bike doesn't really turn too quickly when you turn the handlebars, but
it has the Riv quickness in terms of responding to body weight shifts, so
while I don't think the bike is fast, it is responsive to me.

I set up the bike with Albastache bars and I put the brakes up front.  The
position feels similar to the drop bar position and I can tuck in when it's
windy.  The upright position towards the end of the bars is nice to have,
especially when I am just taking a relaxing ride with the kids.

I tried to ride with non-clipless pedals, but I live on the middle of a big
hill, and any direction you go, there are hills. I missed the power of the
clipless pedals when climbing, so I had to compromise and have the shimano
two sided pedals with one side spd and one side standard.

I don't care--yet--about having the mixte and easy mounting of the saddle,
but I'm sure I'll appreciate that as I get older!

The bike as shown below was expertly assembled by Mark at Riv, and with him
knowing how I ride, he setup the Cheviot just as I would like it.

I used a 7 cm stem, and I normally use a 9 cm stem for my drops.

Toshi


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Re: [RBW] Upright bars--my Cheviot review

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Usually my kids are following me, but yeah if they are in front, I want my
hands on the brakes!

Toshi


On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> Interesting what you say about using the ends of the Albastache bars for
> slow riding with kids. I *thought* this would work well when I used them,
> but I find that riding with my kids, they like to stop suddenly and for no
> apparent reason. I didn't like being that far away from the brakes. So for
> me, the Albastache was basically a fast riding bar, like a drop bar. For
> slow riding, I want mtb style brake levers.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
>> I'm basically a drop bar guy, but I love my wife's Betty Foy, so I
>> thought it would be great to have a bike that I can just ride on with no
>> fuss and I have it pitlocked so I can take it to the grocery and not have
>> to worry about it getting stuff stolen too easily.
>>
>> The bike doesn't really turn too quickly when you turn the handlebars,
>> but it has the Riv quickness in terms of responding to body weight shifts,
>> so while I don't think the bike is fast, it is responsive to me.
>>
>> I set up the bike with Albastache bars and I put the brakes up front.
>> The position feels similar to the drop bar position and I can tuck in when
>> it's windy.  The upright position towards the end of the bars is nice to
>> have, especially when I am just taking a relaxing ride with the kids.
>>
>> I tried to ride with non-clipless pedals, but I live on the middle of a
>> big hill, and any direction you go, there are hills. I missed the power of
>> the clipless pedals when climbing, so I had to compromise and have the
>> shimano two sided pedals with one side spd and one side standard.
>>
>> I don't care--yet--about having the mixte and easy mounting of the
>> saddle, but I'm sure I'll appreciate that as I get older!
>>
>> The bike as shown below was expertly assembled by Mark at Riv, and with
>> him knowing how I ride, he setup the Cheviot just as I would like it.
>>
>> I used a 7 cm stem, and I normally use a 9 cm stem for my drops.
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/38968449685/in/da
>> teposted-public/
>>
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I set up my Ram 650b/front rack/fenders and used it as a long distance
Randonneur bike, and it worked great for that function.  I set up the
Roadeo with no racks or fenders as a go fast club rider and supported
rides.  The ride is very similar, but I did notice that the Roadeo seems
slightly more responsive to handlebar input compared to the Ram.

--The other point I noticed is that the top tube is shorter.  I set up the
cockpit similarly with the Ram vs Roadeo (I didn't use a longer stem with a
shorter top tube).  With the slightly shorter top tube, it makes the drops
more comfortable on the Roadeo because the bars are closer.  I think the
drops on the Roadeo are my favorite position on the bike, while I probably
rode more on the hoods of the Ram or at the curves at the top of the bar.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Toshi AKA Inigo Montoya.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Bill, I'm sure you'd return the money if you knew that it came from someone
who lost everything:

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/22/world/la-fg-japan-returned-money-20110923

This reminds me of the scores of unlocked bikes I saw in Tokyo--even the
locked bikes I remember were not locked to anything.  They might have a
cable lock through the frame and front tire, but not secured.

Toshi


On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Here's another one:
>
> I find a quarter on the street.  I take it without consent, with the
> intent to permanently deny the rightful owner of that property
>
> I find a $20 bill on the street.  I take it without consent, with the
> intent to permanently deny the rightful owner of that property
>
> I find $20,000 on the street.  I take it without consent, with the intent
> to permanently deny the rightful owner of that property
>
> Are any of these 'theft'?   Probably.  Are they all 'theft'?  There's the
> 'petty theft' and 'grand theft' distinction, but I guess it's either all
> theft, or none of it is.
>
> B
>
> p.s. I hope  I never find $20,000, because I'd want to keep it.
>
>
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:14:26 PM UTC-8, Ian A wrote:
>>
>> Bill: Borrowing without intent is an interesting argument, but I imagine
>> a judge would not be easily convinced that it wasn't intention to
>> permanently deprive.
>>
>> IanA - also not a lawyer. Since when has common sense ever prevailed?
>> Certainly rarely in my life!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I weighed my Roadeo out of curiosity and it is 22 lbs as shown in this
picture, but without the wrap under the saddle.  I suppose if you used a
double crank and got a lighter seat, it might be close to 20 lbs, but that
was not my goal for this bike.  I like using the Roadeo for long rides with
fair weather--riding 200 miles or under, so comfort and low gearing is more
important than weight to me.

Toshi

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On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 02/02/2018 04:51 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
> This is just too funny. I guess most of us have violated the leave well
> enough alone rule now and again, but ha! This takes the cake. Poor little
> systems engineer. Was it his very last bike event ever?
>
>
> I think not.  But I do believe he learned a lesson about leaving well
> enough alone.   He did get it all reassembled eventually, and the event was
> laid out so that the full 80 mile distance was made up of several 20-ish
> and 30-ish loops all originating from the central starting point, so he did
> get 40 or 50 in and had a good time riding.
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2018 at 1:52:27 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>> One time I talked a guy from work, a systems engineer, into joining me at
>> the Mathews County "Tour de Chesapeake."  This was his very first ever bike
>> event.  The night before, he decided to completely take his rear derailleur
>> apart in the hotel room, including removing the pulleys.  In the process,
>> he lost some parts, took him half the night to find where they ended up.
>> So as everyone else is taking off on the ride next morning, there he is
>> trying to reassemble a rear derailleur with his bike laid out on the grass
>> in front of the school.
>>
>>
>> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia
> USA
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Re: [RBW] Un-un-unracing update: My first 622mm 200k, and a Sam Hillborne ride report 9-years later

[Toshi Takeuchi]

It was a great day on the bike.  I also felt strong, and it was the first
time in my life that it felt like I had a tailwind all day. (It's usually
the opposite!). I decided to ride my Roadeo because I didn't need lights
for this ride and could enjoy riding unencumbered.  For the 200k, I usually
ride with my buddy and do an eating tour, but he had to cancel out the last
minute, so I thought I would ride quickly (for me) and efficiently, because
I had to go to dinner with my wife later that evening.   I ended up with my
best time ever for a 200k by a couple hours!!

The Roadeo felt great, but my climbing legs were pooped by the end.
Mountain-biking Bill looked fresh and strong on those last climbs!

I'll probably ride my custom on the 300k and take it slower, but am looking
to enjoy it.

At the finish, Rivs were well represented.  There was an AHH, 2 Sams
(including Bill's) and my Roadeo.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Un-un-unracing update: My first 622mm 200k, and a Sam Hillborne ride report 9-years later

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm planning on San Francisco 300k and then Santa Cruz 400k, 600k.  As far
as the time goes, yeah, the other rides I did I sat around and enjoyed a
bunch of food, but even then, I think my average speed on my ride was
faster this time even with much less time for breaks.  Hope to catch you on
some more rides this year.

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] I'll be at Riv and need some suggestions about the local area

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Alcatraz is great, but you might have difficulty making a reservation.
Muir woods now has limited parking that also requires a reservation.  I
highly recommend renting a bicycle in the city and riding along the
Embarcadero through fisherman's wharf and to the golden gate bridge,
followed by a trip across the bridge down into Sausalito, and then a ferry
back to San Francisco.  You get to see lots of beautiful scenery and
experience a trip on the bay.  If you feel adventurous, then cross the
bridge and climb the hill on the West side of the bridge (Conzelman Rd?) to
the old gun turrets about a couple hundred feet up.  You look down on the
Golden Gate Bridge with the absolute best views of the bridge and city.

If you are in Emeryville, then you are 10 miles from the Oakland
Hills--Redwood Regional Park.  Go to the Skyline gate and take a hike along
the rim trail, or hike down into the Redwoods on the French Trail.  There
will be some elevation gain, but wonderful hiking and beautiful redwoods.
That is in my neck of the woods.  You are welcome to borrow a bike from me
(I ride a 54 cm, but also have a smaller mixte Cheviot) and ride along
Skyline Blvd to Grizzly Peak Blvd, where there are amazing views of the
bay.

I know you said that you won't be biking, but hard for me to not recommend
it :).

Toshi in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Bar-swapping: Drops out, Jitensha bars in

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I have a Cowchipper on my Roadeo and like it a lot.  I went nuts and used a
Woodchipper on my road bikes for a while.  They are really funky with a
super wide flare.  I've done double centuries with the Woodchipper and
never felt like I was miserable in the headwinds because of the bars.  Only
because I was miserable :).  I loved climbing with the Woodchippers because
it felt like I had lots of leverage.

You can't really see the flare from this angle, but here's a picture with
the bars:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/7037147233/

Toshi

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