[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
VW Eurovan Camper if you can find one. D.G. On Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:02:42 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote: > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6HpzITIa4coJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Yeah it's much better to read about everyone trying to describe about how they can tell the differences between ruffy tuffy and roly poly. On Wednesday, March 21, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Don't *you* start! It was already kicked off the iBob list by the > moderatorsintheir > infinitewisdombelieveitornot. I say, if you pedal it, it counts. > > Actually, I've been told that you can learn to lean them, but that > woud take away the entire point -- the fun of cornering with all three > wheels on the ground. > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, davidfrench wrote: >> Is this thing a tricycle? >> What don't lean like a bike is not a bike! >> :-) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rg2FltRjVSAJ. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Don't *you* start! It was already kicked off the iBob list by the moderatorsintheir infinitewisdombelieveitornot. I say, if you pedal it, it counts. Actually, I've been told that you can learn to lean them, but that woud take away the entire point -- the fun of cornering with all three wheels on the ground. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM, davidfrench wrote: > Is this thing a tricycle? > What don't lean like a bike is not a bike! > :-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rg2FltRjVSAJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Is this thing a tricycle? What don't lean like a bike is not a bike! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rg2FltRjVSAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I have to bow before superiority. That does take the cake. How's about this: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/Late70sOrEarly80sKenRogersBRT?authkey=Gv1sRgCMa-k8S2v-XZbg#5702101096963401378 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, davidfrench wrote: > Patrick, what about this one: > http://images.caradisiac.com/images/3/1/9/9/33199/S0-J-aime-du-jour-Citroen-Tube-vs-Renault-Estafette-135216.jpg > Citroen Tub! > :-) > I saw one in San Francisco. I guess it belong to a bike shop in Russian > Hill... This is the perfect vehicle (and pardon me even if I'm french I'm > not into "tour de France", but I'm sure this Citroen was used extensively > during the race, back in the days) > :-) > > Larry, nice to meet (virtually) another eurovan owner! > > Rex, try a Eurovan, or put that hitch on the Subaru. My Hollywood Rack can > take any kind of bikes, fenders or not. > http://www.hollywoodracks.com/bike-racks/hitch-racks/sportrider-hitch-rack-4.htm > > > >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rK8as66D6xMJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Patrick, what about this one: http://images.caradisiac.com/images/3/1/9/9/33199/S0-J-aime-du-jour-Citroen-Tube-vs-Renault-Estafette-135216.jpg Citroen Tub! :-) I saw one in San Francisco. I guess it belong to a bike shop in Russian Hill... This is the perfect vehicle (and pardon me even if I'm french I'm not into "tour de France", but I'm sure this Citroen was used extensively during the race, back in the days) :-) Larry, nice to meet (virtually) another eurovan owner! Rex, try a Eurovan, or put that hitch on the Subaru. My Hollywood Rack can take any kind of bikes, fenders or not. http://www.hollywoodracks.com/bike-racks/hitch-racks/sportrider-hitch-rack-4.htm > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rK8as66D6xMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I have a 99 VW Eurovan Camper which does a great job of hauling two bikes and two people. Lots of bikers I know have Honda Elements. Two or three bikes easily fit in the rear with two passengers up front. Too bad they stopped making it. Larry LA CA On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench wrote: > Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW >> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine >> cause VW stopped importing those). >> > I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great > and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! > :-) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
One word: Citroen Acadiane. https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/Acadiane#5720999573577885634 Carries my Ken Rogers tricycle with no need for disassembly. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Rex Kerr wrote: > I find that carrying my big bikes in/on vehicles is a pain... > > They're too tall to fit IN the car -- with the front wheel off, my 67 cm AHH > BARELY fits in the back of my Subaru Outback with the seats down. > > They're too accessorized to fit ON the car -- fender or front lowrider rack > prevents using fork mount racks, water bottle cages prevent using downtube > mount racks, fenders prevent using over the tire type racks, etc. > > I've always hated hitch mounted racks, though I do have one... problem is, I > don't have a receiver hitch on my Subie. > > I did manage to get some of my bikes to work on a fork mount by removing the > wheel tray and leaving just the fork mount bolted to the front crossbar, and > just cinch the rear wheel down to the rear crossbar, with the bars spaced > exactly for the wheelbase of my bikes. Having the tray removed allows the > fender to drop down below the crossbar, BARELY clearing the roof, though > requiring the mudflap to be bent back. > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench wrote: >>> >>> Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW >>> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine >>> cause VW stopped importing those). >> >> I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great >> and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! >> :-) >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I find that carrying my big bikes in/on vehicles is a pain... They're too tall to fit IN the car -- with the front wheel off, my 67 cm AHH BARELY fits in the back of my Subaru Outback with the seats down. They're too accessorized to fit ON the car -- fender or front lowrider rack prevents using fork mount racks, water bottle cages prevent using downtube mount racks, fenders prevent using over the tire type racks, etc. I've always hated hitch mounted racks, though I do have one... problem is, I don't have a receiver hitch on my Subie. I did manage to get some of my bikes to work on a fork mount by removing the wheel tray and leaving just the fork mount bolted to the front crossbar, and just cinch the rear wheel down to the rear crossbar, with the bars spaced exactly for the wheelbase of my bikes. Having the tray removed allows the fender to drop down below the crossbar, BARELY clearing the roof, though requiring the mudflap to be bent back. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench wrote: > Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW >> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine >> cause VW stopped importing those). >> > I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great > and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! > :-) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
> > Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW > Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine > cause VW stopped importing those). > I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/u-m7_AH3emMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I love it... we need a group on Flickr for bike travel.. here are some photos I had.. The Mini, and the rear racks aren't me the rest are my vehicals. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157625836620518/ PATRICK MOORE wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > > > > > I also have mountain bikes and do get muddy which sucks putting in the car. > > You need the special "bike porteur" version for dirty bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I ride my bike mostlywhen I have transported I have used a rack outside or I slide it into the bed of my truck when I have the canopy on. We used to have an Astro Van that I could load four bikes into easily. These days I drive a 92 Suzuki Swift (38 mpg) and can't haul a bike without taking the wheels off and/or taking off the fenders so I just ride to my destinations. A Bike Friday folder is nice to own when you are traveling by car often and I may get one in the future, depending. You may consider S&S couplers then you could toss it into any small car. Way less expensive than buying a new car. Heck you could even get a special coupled bike when traveling for less. On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I don't know that there is a "best vehical" Maybe it's more a best method based on application. Roof racks have been great from me. Especially when traveling with three people, bikes and gear. They have worked on cars, mini vans and my current Escape. The Element we have will barely get my bike insdie., and I have no chance of getting three bikes, people and gear in it. For around town nothing is easier than the roof rack and it has fork locks, rack locks and cable locks. Bikes getting rained on is no biggie, I ride in the rain and in the mud etc. The brooks saddle cover keeps the seat nice and dry. For me the ideal vehical would be the full sized van with a gear carrier hanging off the trailer hitch. That way I can carry 4 bikes inside with comfortable seating for all and carry the gear. I also have mountain bikes and do get muddy which sucks putting in the car. The rear outside racks I've used tend to promote scatches and dings on the bikes. But for ease of use they are great. The one mini van I had that worked great didn't have a rear bench seat so the rear tires could go between the two rear seats. But I don't have that anymore.. life of company cars that get changed at employers choice every two years. Just as we make trade offs on bicycle tires, gear, comfort on our bikes etc.. we make trade offs with our vehicals. Practical for one is not for the next. For most activities the roof rack covers all my needs. Including ability to carry the Tandem and people and muddy mountain bikes. Bike bras keep the bugs off for longer trips even if it kills gas milage. Point being for me ... it's rare to have a single bike or person going to a ride. Ability for minimum of 3 and 4 would be better. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I personally just roll the bike into the car. I have to angle it a bit, but I am able to put the bike inside without removing the front tire. I then use a bungie to the rear passenger handle to secure it in place. The front tire positions between the two front seats ever so slightly with two bikes. with one I just push the passenger seat forward a bit and all is good. This alleviates the need for the fork mounts and allows me to convert the car quickly. I also have a custom cut carpeting in the car that deadens noise and gives a little more class to the vehicle that I may or may not have to remove if I used the fork mounts. I'm all about ease of conversion. On Jan 15, 9:41 am, jim phillips wrote: > Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is > how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside > to that? > > best, > > JimP > > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > > forhauling your bike? > > From: t...@cox.net > > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear > > carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower > > the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to > > fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more > > practical (this is with both seats removed). > > As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from > > Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made > > a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in > > the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, > > on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: > > > > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get > > > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram > > > vertically inside "The Toaster." > > > > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear > > > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is > > > easy to clean up. > > > > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good > > > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. > > > > Angus > > > > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front > > >> seat comfort too. > > >> Thanks for your insight (no pun). > > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: j4gitr > > > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 > > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > > >> for > > >> hauling your bike? > > > >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle > > >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and > > >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. > > >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever > > >> owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been > > >> driving it for 4 years now. > > > >> On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > >>> Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > >>> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > >>> theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > >>> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > >>> slide the wheel in next to it > > > >>> Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > >>> RGZ > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> Fo
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
A car guy! Sh! Don't type it too loud! I saw the new Prius-V, it looks promising. And in keeping this Riv/tall boy on-topic, all of these vehicles would have to meet this criteria: Bike loaded in, rear wheel first, still attached, preferably with the seat still in it's riding position, front wheel removed. Point being, a rider with a 56 can get back to his vehicle, and if caught in a downpour, or in a hurry etc, toss it into almost anything. I want to do pretty much that with a 68-70. Kept in this light, a vehicle is just another bike accessory. RGZ On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Ken Freeman wrote: > I'm also not a tall guy, but I am a car guy. The Element, aside from gas > mileage, is a great carrier, but Honda is taking it off the market. As a > new vehicle, it's not a viable recommendation. > At least one local Rivendeller (see, back on topic!) used a RAV-4 as a bike > carrier, to store them vertical in the back, but I think he needed since > then to go a different way. Not sure if the current platform is as roomy. > > Toyota is coming out with a Prius wagon or crossover. I can get two bikes > to lay flat in our standard Prius 5-door, so this should be even better. > If you like vans, how about the Chrysler vans with seats that fully fold in > to leave a tall space with a flat floor? > If you like sedans, can you take off the wheels, turn the frame upside down, > and place it in the rear seat footwell? Then the wheels can go on the bench > seat behind it, oriented so the dirty drive parts will not rest on > upholstery. The trunk is then free for gear and luggage, if you're > traveling. > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: >> >> I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get >> my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram >> vertically inside "The Toaster." >> >> I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear >> seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is >> easy to clean up. >> >> I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good >> enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. >> >> Angus >> >> On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> > This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front >> > seat comfort too. >> > Thanks for your insight (no pun). >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: j4gitr >> > >> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 >> > To: RBW Owners Bunch >> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> > for >> > hauling your bike? >> > >> > I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle >> > inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and >> > the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. >> > It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever >> > owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been >> > driving it for 4 years now. >> > >> > On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: >> > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >> > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >> > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >> > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >> > > slide the wheel in next to it >> > >> > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> > >> > > RGZ >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsu
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I'm also not a tall guy, but I am a car guy. The Element, aside from gas mileage, is a great carrier, but Honda is taking it off the market. As a new vehicle, it's not a viable recommendation. At least one local Rivendeller (see, back on topic!) used a RAV-4 as a bike carrier, to store them vertical in the back, but I think he needed since then to go a different way. Not sure if the current platform is as roomy. Toyota is coming out with a Prius wagon or crossover. I can get two bikes to lay flat in our standard Prius 5-door, so this should be even better. If you like vans, how about the Chrysler vans with seats that fully fold in to leave a tall space with a flat floor? If you like sedans, can you take off the wheels, turn the frame upside down, and place it in the rear seat footwell? Then the wheels can go on the bench seat behind it, oriented so the dirty drive parts will not rest on upholstery. The trunk is then free for gear and luggage, if you're traveling. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram > vertically inside "The Toaster." > > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is > easy to clean up. > > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. > > Angus > > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front > seat comfort too. > > Thanks for your insight (no pun). > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: j4gitr > > > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > for > > hauling your bike? > > > > I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle > > inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and > > the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. > > It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever > > owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been > > driving it for 4 years now. > > > > On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > > > RGZ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Sorry, don't bother, never mind, etc etc etc -- I misread that as "carriers that fit INTO the back of the car". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:30 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, jim phillips wrote: >> Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? > > Can you describe these or point to an image url? I may want some to > bolt into my Voyager. > > I carried 4 bikes today, all just shoved in the back with both wheels > on. Of course, three were kids' bikes (2 X 20" wheel and 1 X 24" > wheel, but those high rise handlebars!) and the biggest was a 57 or 58 > cm Motobecane Grand Record, but still > > Just wish I had the 5 speed turbo version. > > Patrick "love my Plymouth two seater" Moore > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, jim phillips wrote: > Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? Can you describe these or point to an image url? I may want some to bolt into my Voyager. I carried 4 bikes today, all just shoved in the back with both wheels on. Of course, three were kids' bikes (2 X 20" wheel and 1 X 24" wheel, but those high rise handlebars!) and the biggest was a 57 or 58 cm Motobecane Grand Record, but still Just wish I had the 5 speed turbo version. Patrick "love my Plymouth two seater" Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Ok William I'll whisper the link to you only.. http://atoc.com/biketopper.php Then scroll down to the BT-HT47 ... that is the one I'm buying. My Tandem topper is a Rockymount.. haven't check to see if they make something. Kelly William Pustow wrote: > That's what I've been looking for! Please let us, (forget them, tell only > me), know if the single unit works with fenders. What's the brand/web site? > Bill > Louisville, Ky > > > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > > > Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. > > mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles > > with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am > > going to order one and see how it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
That's what I've been looking for! Please let us, (forget them, tell only me), know if the single unit works with fenders. What's the brand/web site? Bill Louisville, Ky On Jan 15, 2011, at 7:54 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. > mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles > with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am going > to order one and see how it is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I just went out to put my bike in our element. I guess the lower bottom bracket makes a difference because my old / sold / X race bike the seat was to high to stand up in the element. No the AHH if I turn it sideways to get it past the entrance I can just barely stand it up.then I have to put the front wheel in first and turn it sideways at the front seat or it's too long to fit. Took two of us to wiggle it in. For long trip with just the wife and I it would be ok.. but not worth fighting on a regular basis to me. So I'll keep using the roof racks on my escape. Note if like my you find your fenders too long for standard roof racks .. mine works great with my tandem rack and I found a place that sells singles with the sole intent to be high enough for fenders. At 115 bucks I am going to order one and see how it is. I think and won't swear to it that it was made by draftmaster. Kelly From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Grant Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:13 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Make it at least four for the Element. It's not sporty in the least. We bought it because it's light for its size, its rugged interior can be configured variously, and because it can haul bicycles standing up with wheels on - at least as tall as my 60.5 cm Rivendell custom. We can put three people and three bikes inside the car if we remove a back seat. It has only four seats though, so now that we have twins, the bikes ride on a hitch-mounted rack out back. Ironic, huh? Also, please note that Honda has announced the end of production for this model, and probably won't support it as long as I plan to keep it - which is approximately for the rest of my life. Ours has been very reliable - no repairs outside normal maintenance for 50k miles now. -- Jon "Papa" Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings - all sorts _ From: robert zeidler Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:34 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining. These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips wrote: > Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is > how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a > downside to that? > > best, > > JimP > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best >> vehicle forhauling your bike? >> From: t...@cox.net >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear >> carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower >> the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to >> fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more >> practical (this is with both seats removed). >> As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from >> Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a >> trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the >> back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all >> those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: >> >> > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get >> > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram >> > vertically inside "The Toaster." >> > >> > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear >> > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is >> > easy to clean up. >> > >> > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good >> > enough, has plenty
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is thebestvehicleforhaulingyour bike?
I have been transporting my bikes on (and in) my 2005 Honda Element
for 5 years... It is one of the best bike-totin cars for sure. I have
a hitch-mounted rack (with perfectly suits my Bombadil), but it can
also fit upright inside the Element (using a fork mount attached to a
small piece of plywood with a yoga mat glued to the underside)...
Provides the best of both worlds ... I can quickly load & transport my
Riv with no hassle, or optionally protect it inside (when necessary).
Peace,
BB
On Jan 15, 1:06 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes especially as we(I) started to color outside the lines a bit. As I said
> bike riders are a flea, Riv riders are a flea on that flea. So we'll need to
> stick together.
> RGZ :{)
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
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> thebestvehicleforhauling
> your bike?
>
> on 1/15/11 9:21 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > A million apologies to all. It is kind of on-topic because tall folks
> > can't just throw their bikes in anything, and Riv does make a lot of
> > bigger sizes. But it is your list and so I respect what you say.
>
> "I thought we were an autonomous collective..."
>
> ;^)
>
> Just to clarify my hastily typed point -
> I do think this thread has remained within the topic of our group, insofar
> as it _was_ about Rivs rather than cars.
>
> As a parrallel point, it speaks highly of this group that requests to temper
> the thread were met with positive responses. As I've said, it's an
> imperfect boundry, and depends upon context, tone and the willingness to
> listen to other's points of view.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> - J
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is thebestvehicleforhaulingyour bike?
Yes especially as we(I) started to color outside the lines a bit. As I said
bike riders are a flea, Riv riders are a flea on that flea. So we'll need to
stick together.
RGZ :{)
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on 1/15/11 9:21 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
> A million apologies to all. It is kind of on-topic because tall folks
> can't just throw their bikes in anything, and Riv does make a lot of
> bigger sizes. But it is your list and so I respect what you say.
"I thought we were an autonomous collective..."
;^)
Just to clarify my hastily typed point -
I do think this thread has remained within the topic of our group, insofar
as it _was_ about Rivs rather than cars.
As a parrallel point, it speaks highly of this group that requests to temper
the thread were met with positive responses. As I've said, it's an
imperfect boundry, and depends upon context, tone and the willingness to
listen to other's points of view.
Thanks again!
- J
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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is thebestvehicleforhauling your bike?
on 1/15/11 9:21 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > A million apologies to all. It is kind of on-topic because tall folks > can't just throw their bikes in anything, and Riv does make a lot of > bigger sizes. But it is your list and so I respect what you say. "I thought we were an autonomous collective..." ;^) Just to clarify my hastily typed point - I do think this thread has remained within the topic of our group, insofar as it _was_ about Rivs rather than cars. As a parrallel point, it speaks highly of this group that requests to temper the thread were met with positive responses. As I've said, it's an imperfect boundry, and depends upon context, tone and the willingness to listen to other's points of view. Thanks again! - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is thebestvehicleforhauling your bike?
A million apologies to all. It is kind of on-topic because tall folks can't just throw their bikes in anything, and Riv does make a lot of bigger sizes. But it is your list and so I respect what you say. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 1/14/11 1:02 PM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Well it kind of is, we're discussing a vehicle of choice and the merits of >> each w/ some practicality thrown in and the reaction to each. It's a flea on >> a >> flea as far as discussions go and there hasn't been one negative utterance >> yet. Why would anyone get mad? > > I think it's one of those quirks of the webbernet. Over the years, > auto-trending threads in bicycle forums and groups seem to get folks riled > up. > > And while I do understand the specific intent of the thread was to address > clearance issues in the motorized transport of larger-framed Rivendells (the > tone and topic of which has been nicely maintained in this thread), having > it morph into a general discussion of good/bad autos would be OT. > > - Jim / list admin > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is thebestvehicleforhauling your bike?
on 1/14/11 1:02 PM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Well it kind of is, we're discussing a vehicle of choice and the merits of > each w/ some practicality thrown in and the reaction to each. It's a flea on a > flea as far as discussions go and there hasn't been one negative utterance > yet. Why would anyone get mad? I think it's one of those quirks of the webbernet. Over the years, auto-trending threads in bicycle forums and groups seem to get folks riled up. And while I do understand the specific intent of the thread was to address clearance issues in the motorized transport of larger-framed Rivendells (the tone and topic of which has been nicely maintained in this thread), having it morph into a general discussion of good/bad autos would be OT. - Jim / list admin -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Make it at least four for the Element. It¹s not sporty in the least. We bought it because it¹s light for its size, its rugged interior can be configured variously, and because it can haul bicycles standing up with wheels on ‹ at least as tall as my 60.5 cm Rivendell custom. We can put three people and three bikes inside the car if we remove a back seat. It has only four seats though, so now that we have twins, the bikes ride on a hitch-mounted rack out back. Ironic, huh? Also, please note that Honda has announced the end of production for this model, and probably won¹t support it as long as I plan to keep it ‹ which is approximately for the rest of my life. Ours has been very reliable ‹ no repairs outside normal maintenance for 50k miles now. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sorts From: robert zeidler Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:34 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining. These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips wrote: > Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is > how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a > downside to that? > > best, > > JimP > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best >> vehicle forhauling your bike? >> From: t...@cox.net >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear >> carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower >> the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to >> fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more >> practical (this is with both seats removed). >> As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from >> Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a >> trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the >> back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all >> those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: >> >> > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get >> > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram >> > vertically inside "The Toaster." >> > >> > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear >> > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is >> > easy to clean up. >> > >> > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good >> > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. >> > >> > Angus >> > >> > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front >> >> seat comfort too. >> >> Thanks for your insight (no pun). >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: j4gitr >> >> >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 >> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> >> for >> >> hauling your bike? >> >> >> >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle >> >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and >> >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. >> >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever >>
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining. These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips wrote: > Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is > how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a > downside to that? > > best, > > JimP > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best >> vehicle forhauling your bike? >> From: t...@cox.net >> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear >> carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower >> the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to >> fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more >> practical (this is with both seats removed). >> As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from >> Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a >> trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the >> back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all >> those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: >> >> > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get >> > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram >> > vertically inside "The Toaster." >> > >> > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear >> > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is >> > easy to clean up. >> > >> > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good >> > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. >> > >> > Angus >> > >> > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front >> >> seat comfort too. >> >> Thanks for your insight (no pun). >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: j4gitr >> >> >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 >> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> >> for >> >> hauling your bike? >> >> >> >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle >> >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and >> >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. >> >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever >> >> owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been >> >> driving it for 4 years now. >> >> >> >> On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: >> >>> Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >> >>> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >> >>> theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >> >>> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >> >>> slide the wheel in next to it >> >> >> >>> Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> >> >> >>> RGZ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsu
RE: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside to that? best, JimP > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > forhauling your bike? > From: t...@cox.net > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear > carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower > the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to > fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more > practical (this is with both seats removed). > As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from > Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a > trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the > back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all > those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. > On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: > > > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get > > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram > > vertically inside "The Toaster." > > > > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear > > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is > > easy to clean up. > > > > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good > > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. > > > > Angus > > > > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front > >> seat comfort too. > >> Thanks for your insight (no pun). > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -Original Message----- > >> From: j4gitr > >> > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > >> hauling your bike? > >> > >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle > >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and > >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. > >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever > >> owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been > >> driving it for 4 years now. > >> > >> On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > >>> Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > >>> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > >>> theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > >>> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > >>> slide the wheel in next to it > >> > >>> Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > >> > >>> RGZ > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram > vertically inside "The Toaster." > > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is > easy to clean up. > > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. > > Angus > > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat >> comfort too. >> Thanks for your insight (no pun). >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -Original Message- >> From: j4gitr >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for >> hauling your bike? >> >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever >> owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been >> driving it for 4 years now. >> >> On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: >>> Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >>> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >>> theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >>> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >>> slide the wheel in next to it >> >>> Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> >>> RGZ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside "The Toaster." I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat > comfort too. > Thanks for your insight (no pun). > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: j4gitr > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > hauling your bike? > > I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle > inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and > the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. > It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever > owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been > driving it for 4 years now. > > On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > RGZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
A Mazda 5 is a brilliant suggestion, and soon the Ford version, the C-Max will be here. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Scott G. wrote: > You need a Honda Tardis aka Fit. > A Honda Element or a Mazda 5 also work well. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
1st off, Thanks to everyone who replied. It's harder than everyone thinks to cram a Tall Rider and his stuff into a vehicle. I'll take everyone's advice into account. I'll bring this topic to a close, but let me explain my remarks-and they are somewhat ON topic, as we (some of us) are deciding to use our bikes as alternate transportation. Whenever it comes to fuel efficiency in autos, or home solar power, etc., almost everyone will act in their own best interests first. "What's the payback?", "Yeah, I know the Prius gets 5 more mpg but I can get the XXX for a lot less and only get a few mpg less". If that's not greed, then what is? But, that's also the way it should be, one could argue (not necessarily me, but still). There a very few people who are riding to use less fuel and help mankind, but rather, "I'm not giving my money to some multi-national corporation", or "Look at the money I'm saving!". When I talk about using all of the remaining fossil fuel, I mean this more than you know. How many lives, including our beautiful American youth, have been wasted over this? How many dollars squandered? How many borrowed dollars? The sooner it's gone, the better. And this from a person who makes his own electricity from wind and solar (grid-tied), and heats is own domestic hot water w/ solar. The systems cost me over $100K. Why did I do it? The payback on the PV is around 23 years, and 6 for the solar hot water. I did it as a patriotic act, and to support these kids who put themselves in harm's way. It's my way of lifting a middle finger, not to the companies-that's like blaming a pimp for supplying something that's wanted, but to the whole fossil fuel concept, and saying, "Not this white boy". Sorry for this rant, but I didn't want to alienate some of my brothers and sisters who may have misconstrued my comments. And once again thanks to all. Now let's go have some fun! RGZ RGZ On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:42 AM, MichaelH wrote: > Two things to keep in mind here. First the ego wants wanting more > than it wants having. That's why as soon as we get what we want, we > start wanting something else. If that weren't true the entire > consumer driven economy would collapse. > > Second, oil industry executives are forecasting gasoline prices of > $5.00 by early 2012. > > At the end of Feb I will put our tandem, in 3 pieces, inside the > Prius, along with all our camping equipment, and a roof rack, then > drive from Vermont to New Mexico. Once there (actually to Big Bend in > west TX) we will put the three parts of the tandem back together and > carry it up on the roof. To do the same trip in a Jeep or a van would > require about 50 gallons more gas, which cost as much as shipping the > bike back and forth. > > On other long trips, with two bikes outside the car, I have covered > the seats and removed the chains. The rest is a wash. > > As for sexy... you can buy sex, but you can't buy love. > > michael > > > > On Jan 14, 7:55 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> You're not infringing, dude. What you lack in door frame, >> head-smacking height, you make up for with great ideas! >> >> RGZ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael_S >> wrote: >> > sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your >> > subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off >> > in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. >> >> >http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop >> >> > ~Mike~ >> >> > On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Jeremy Till >> >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 >> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> >> forhauling your bike? >> >> >> Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and >> >> it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", >> >> riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit >> >> vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are >> >> deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure wa
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is thebestvehicleforhauling your bike?
Well it kind of is, we're discussing a vehicle of choice and the merits of each w/ some practicality thrown in and the reaction to each. It's a flea on a flea as far as discussions go and there hasn't been one negative utterance yet. Why would anyone get mad? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:58:05 To: Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the bestvehicleforhauling your bike? On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:52 PM, wrote: > I'll check it out. I'm not out to use less gas, in fact I hope to use the > rest of the fossil fuel up so we can go on to something else. > The way I look at it, I pay for it with money I earned. Case closed. > Everyone is greedy in one way or another. Sayin'? > My opinion only: I think this thread of the conversation should probably stop here. it's not riv, and it's going to make people angry. sound reasonable to everyone? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the bestvehicleforhauling your bike?
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:52 PM, wrote: > I'll check it out. I'm not out to use less gas, in fact I hope to use the > rest of the fossil fuel up so we can go on to something else. > The way I look at it, I pay for it with money I earned. Case closed. > Everyone is greedy in one way or another. Sayin'? > My opinion only: I think this thread of the conversation should probably stop here. it's not riv, and it's going to make people angry. sound reasonable to everyone? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the bestvehicleforhauling your bike?
I'll check it out. I'm not out to use less gas, in fact I hope to use the rest of the fossil fuel up so we can go on to something else. The way I look at it, I pay for it with money I earned. Case closed. Everyone is greedy in one way or another. Sayin'? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Garth Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:23:51 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike? I drive a '99 Ford F150 with a fiberglass shell and a Bedrug(padded marine grade carpet). Standard cab, standard bed. The gas mileage isn't great, but I paid for it upfront when new, and maintenance costs have been very low. The fuuny thing is though, despite it's large size, it gets about the same mpg as a Jeep Wrangler. I can camp out in it, even with a bike inside. ... and being tall there's nothing like the inside cab of a pickup truck. You're butt's not sitting on the floor and you have room for big feet! So hey the oil guys want and want too. So they want $5 gas . what's new. Sadly ...greed lives in us all, and may end up killing us... unless we're fortunate enough to get a big meteor to hit the earth first. LoL! ha ha. If you want to read something pretty wild, and it's 96 pages check out this . It covers a lot, how much is true we'll never know. http://www.spiritualeconomicsnow.net/solutions/How_I_08.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
I drive a '99 Ford F150 with a fiberglass shell and a Bedrug(padded marine grade carpet). Standard cab, standard bed. The gas mileage isn't great, but I paid for it upfront when new, and maintenance costs have been very low. The fuuny thing is though, despite it's large size, it gets about the same mpg as a Jeep Wrangler. I can camp out in it, even with a bike inside. ... and being tall there's nothing like the inside cab of a pickup truck. You're butt's not sitting on the floor and you have room for big feet! So hey the oil guys want and want too. So they want $5 gas . what's new. Sadly ...greed lives in us all, and may end up killing us... unless we're fortunate enough to get a big meteor to hit the earth first. LoL! ha ha. If you want to read something pretty wild, and it's 96 pages check out this . It covers a lot, how much is true we'll never know. http://www.spiritualeconomicsnow.net/solutions/How_I_08.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the bestvehicleforhauling your bike?
Not looking for love from my car. (Kidding). There's not a thing wrong w/ consumerism as long as your not going into debt --Original Message-- From: MichaelH Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To: RBW Owners Bunch ReplyTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the bestvehicleforhauling your bike? Sent: Jan 14, 2011 8:42 AM Two things to keep in mind here. First the ego wants wanting more than it wants having. That's why as soon as we get what we want, we start wanting something else. If that weren't true the entire consumer driven economy would collapse. Second, oil industry executives are forecasting gasoline prices of $5.00 by early 2012. At the end of Feb I will put our tandem, in 3 pieces, inside the Prius, along with all our camping equipment, and a roof rack, then drive from Vermont to New Mexico. Once there (actually to Big Bend in west TX) we will put the three parts of the tandem back together and carry it up on the roof. To do the same trip in a Jeep or a van would require about 50 gallons more gas, which cost as much as shipping the bike back and forth. On other long trips, with two bikes outside the car, I have covered the seats and removed the chains. The rest is a wash. As for sexy... you can buy sex, but you can't buy love. michael On Jan 14, 7:55 am, robert zeidler wrote: > You're not infringing, dude. What you lack in door frame, > head-smacking height, you make up for with great ideas! > > RGZ > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael_S wrote: > > sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your > > subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off > > in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. > > >http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop > > > ~Mike~ > > > On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jeremy Till > > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > >> forhauling your bike? > > >> Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and > >> it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", > >> riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit > >> vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are > >> deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was > >> to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes > >> down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the > >> thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. > > >> Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! > > >> On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: > >> > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. > >> > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. > >> > A certain fun factor too. > >> > RGZ > >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: MichaelH > > >> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 > >> > To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > >> > for > >> > hauling your bike? > > >> > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size > >> > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last > >> > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. > >> > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the > >> > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is > >> > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, > >> > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier > >> > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allo Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
You need a Honda Tardis aka Fit. A Honda Element or a Mazda 5 also work well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
Two things to keep in mind here. First the ego wants wanting more than it wants having. That's why as soon as we get what we want, we start wanting something else. If that weren't true the entire consumer driven economy would collapse. Second, oil industry executives are forecasting gasoline prices of $5.00 by early 2012. At the end of Feb I will put our tandem, in 3 pieces, inside the Prius, along with all our camping equipment, and a roof rack, then drive from Vermont to New Mexico. Once there (actually to Big Bend in west TX) we will put the three parts of the tandem back together and carry it up on the roof. To do the same trip in a Jeep or a van would require about 50 gallons more gas, which cost as much as shipping the bike back and forth. On other long trips, with two bikes outside the car, I have covered the seats and removed the chains. The rest is a wash. As for sexy... you can buy sex, but you can't buy love. michael On Jan 14, 7:55 am, robert zeidler wrote: > You're not infringing, dude. What you lack in door frame, > head-smacking height, you make up for with great ideas! > > RGZ > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael_S wrote: > > sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your > > subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off > > in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. > > >http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop > > > ~Mike~ > > > On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jeremy Till > > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > >> forhauling your bike? > > >> Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and > >> it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", > >> riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit > >> vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are > >> deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was > >> to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes > >> down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the > >> thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. > > >> Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! > > >> On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: > >> > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. > >> > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. > >> > A certain fun factor too. > >> > RGZ > >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: MichaelH > > >> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 > >> > To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > >> > for > >> > hauling your bike? > > >> > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size > >> > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last > >> > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. > >> > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the > >> > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is > >> > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, > >> > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier > >> > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders > >> > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on > >> > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty > >> > easy. > > >> > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot > >> > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire > >> > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive > >> > home. You can&
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
You're not infringing, dude. What you lack in door frame, head-smacking height, you make up for with great ideas! RGZ On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Michael_S wrote: > sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your > subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off > in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. > > http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop > > ~Mike~ > > On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jeremy Till >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle >> forhauling your bike? >> >> Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and >> it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", >> riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit >> vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are >> deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was >> to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes >> down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the >> thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. >> >> Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! >> >> On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: >> > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. >> > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. >> > A certain fun factor too. >> > RGZ >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: MichaelH >> >> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 >> > To: RBW Owners Bunch >> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for >> > hauling your bike? >> >> > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size >> > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last >> > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. >> > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the >> > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is >> > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, >> > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier >> > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders >> > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on >> > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty >> > easy. >> >> > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot >> > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire >> > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive >> > home. You can't do that with an SUV. >> >> > Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying >> > cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many >> > applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large >> > items. >> >> > michael, >> > westford, vt. >> >> > On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: >> > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >> > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >> > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >> > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >> > > slide the wheel in next to it >> >> > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> >> > > RGZ >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
When I say "sex" referring to a car I mean the following. You know when you see an older guy, like me, driving down the road in a hot car and they're being SO careful to not inflict too much damage and they "don't want to ruin it", and "do you know what this car's gonna be worth some day"? To me that totally misses the point. If I buy a Mustang GT500 et al, when I'm finished with it, it will be the auto equivalent of Keith Richards. Every time I drive it I'm going to know it's a GT500, not preserve it so I can brag to my friends how it's been babied it's whole life. A bit OT here, I know, but sometimes that's where these things lead us. A Scion XB, though lacking AWD, might work also. RGZ On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:27 PM, rperks wrote: > Sexy is a state of mind, Google turned up this gallery: > http://www.motivemagazine.com/gallery/gallery.html?c=show_thumbs;p=Manufacturers/Ford/Europe/Tourneo > Connect/Interior > draw your own conclusions > > As for the Golf, the back seat is fully removed on the side behind the > driver to make room for the rear wheel, passenger side is folded > down. This just fits my bikes by fractions of an inch, saddle height > around 86-88. Main reason I worked this out was similar to yours, > security and weather. If it were not for the wife and baby I would > have pulled all but the driver seat out, think road warior. > > On Jan 13, 5:23 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> Well that's just it. I had a Focus SVT w/ a roof-rack for a bit, but as a >> bike hauler Bugs, a Brooks that you really can't get wet (only the >> heaviest baggy will work, but even they shred), so I thought the 4dr >> Wrangler might work. Fold/remove the back seat. Never measured the >> floor/ceiling distance. The new little Ford van has promise but doesn't have >> enough sex as far as I'm concerned. A VW GTI van would work. >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Kelly Sleeper >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:45 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for >> hauling your bike? >> >> Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that >> I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I >> couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough >> length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. >> >> We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would >> fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the >> length with a rear seat. >> >> Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. >> The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender >> clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for >> bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my >> thules. >> >> I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked >> well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind >> resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. >> >> Kelly >> >> Good luck with that. >> >> robert zeidler wrote: >> > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would >> > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, >> > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ >> > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, >> > slide the wheel in next to it >> >> > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? >> >> > RGZ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
sorry if I'm infringing ( I'm only slightly above avg) on your subgroup but people say tall bikes can fit upright with front tire off in the Mitsubishi Outlander. Avail in 4wd too. http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6519393#poststop ~Mike~ On Jan 13, 6:34 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jeremy Till > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle > forhauling your bike? > > Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and > it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", > riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit > vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are > deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was > to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes > down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the > thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. > > Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! > > On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: > > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. > > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. > > A certain fun factor too. > > RGZ > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > -Original Message- > > From: MichaelH > > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > > hauling your bike? > > > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size > > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last > > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. > > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the > > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is > > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, > > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier > > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders > > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on > > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty > > easy. > > > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot > > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire > > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive > > home. You can't do that with an SUV. > > > Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying > > cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many > > applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large > > items. > > > michael, > > westford, vt. > > > On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > > RGZ > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Sexy is a state of mind, Google turned up this gallery: http://www.motivemagazine.com/gallery/gallery.html?c=show_thumbs;p=Manufacturers/Ford/Europe/Tourneo Connect/Interior draw your own conclusions As for the Golf, the back seat is fully removed on the side behind the driver to make room for the rear wheel, passenger side is folded down. This just fits my bikes by fractions of an inch, saddle height around 86-88. Main reason I worked this out was similar to yours, security and weather. If it were not for the wife and baby I would have pulled all but the driver seat out, think road warior. On Jan 13, 5:23 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Well that's just it. I had a Focus SVT w/ a roof-rack for a bit, but as a > bike hauler Bugs, a Brooks that you really can't get wet (only the > heaviest baggy will work, but even they shred), so I thought the 4dr Wrangler > might work. Fold/remove the back seat. Never measured the floor/ceiling > distance. The new little Ford van has promise but doesn't have enough sex as > far as I'm concerned. A VW GTI van would work. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > From: Kelly Sleeper > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:45 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > hauling your bike? > > Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that > I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I > couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough > length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. > > We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would > fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the > length with a rear seat. > > Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. > The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender > clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for > bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my > thules. > > I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked > well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind > resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. > > Kelly > > Good luck with that. > > robert zeidler wrote: > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > RGZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremy Till Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. > A certain fun factor too. > RGZ > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: MichaelH > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > hauling your bike? > > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty > easy. > > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive > home. You can't do that with an SUV. > > Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying > cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many > applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large > items. > > michael, > westford, vt. > > On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > RGZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3", riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: > 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. > Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. > A certain fun factor too. > RGZ > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: MichaelH > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for > hauling your bike? > > I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size > bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last > summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. > I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the > tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is > a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, > with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier > (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders > and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on > top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty > easy. > > Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot > Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire > tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive > home. You can't do that with an SUV. > > Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying > cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many > applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large > items. > > michael, > westford, vt. > > On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > > slide the wheel in next to it > > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > > RGZ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: 4WD-you probably got the same 30+" we got yesterday. Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. A certain fun factor too. RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MichaelH Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty easy. Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive home. You can't do that with an SUV. Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large items. michael, westford, vt. On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have a fleet of vans-27 Fords and one Sprinter w/ 265k on it. We normally turn them over @ 160, but we're pushing the Sprinter to the last mile. Been very reliable. Can't get a Dodge any more, only M-B or Freightliner. There was a guy on the web a few years ago who customized one for sailboarding. May still be on there. I like the VW solution because I'd love a GTI. Do you remove the seatpost? RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: rperks Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:57:39 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Take a look at the Ford Transit connect. My buddy has one and we get two decent sized bikes in there. I can get my 63cm bikes into the VW Golf, but that is with one rear seat removed and the other folded down. Even with that the seat is like 1/8" from the headliner and people cringe when I shut the back hatch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/5254096133/in/set-72157625583483616/ Smaller than the TC above and you a likely looking at seat removal, other than that you are in van territory. I dream of a Dodge Sprinter. Rob On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have the spare wheel Thule Rack. I like it. But if it rains Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AmiSingh Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:28:46 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Standard loading procedure: 1. Take front wheel off. Lean front wheel on side of vehicle. 2. Slide Homer in trunk of vehicle, back wheel first. Homer must be diagonal to fit fully. 3. Place front wheel in remaining open space in vehicle securely. RGZ - why not build a stand for your wheels? Sounds like a fun winter project and an excuse to go down to the hardware store ;) For us tall guys, it helps if you have an SUV / Station Wagon. I've contemplated loading it in a car with the rear seats folded. To do this I'd remove both front and rear wheels, lower the seat post and stem and then slide it in. I'm considering a car-rack/trailer hitch for vacationing this spring and summer ... anyone have any experience with Yakima or Thule tow- hitch racks? Ami On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well that's just it. I had a Focus SVT w/ a roof-rack for a bit, but as a bike hauler Bugs, a Brooks that you really can't get wet (only the heaviest baggy will work, but even they shred), so I thought the 4dr Wrangler might work. Fold/remove the back seat. Never measured the floor/ceiling distance. The new little Ford van has promise but doesn't have enough sex as far as I'm concerned. A VW GTI van would work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:45 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the length with a rear seat. Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my thules. I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. Kelly Good luck with that. robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty easy. Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive home. You can't do that with an SUV. Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large items. michael, westford, vt. On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Take a look at the Ford Transit connect. My buddy has one and we get two decent sized bikes in there. I can get my 63cm bikes into the VW Golf, but that is with one rear seat removed and the other folded down. Even with that the seat is like 1/8" from the headliner and people cringe when I shut the back hatch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/5254096133/in/set-72157625583483616/ Smaller than the TC above and you a likely looking at seat removal, other than that you are in van territory. I dream of a Dodge Sprinter. Rob On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Standard loading procedure: 1. Take front wheel off. Lean front wheel on side of vehicle. 2. Slide Homer in trunk of vehicle, back wheel first. Homer must be diagonal to fit fully. 3. Place front wheel in remaining open space in vehicle securely. RGZ - why not build a stand for your wheels? Sounds like a fun winter project and an excuse to go down to the hardware store ;) For us tall guys, it helps if you have an SUV / Station Wagon. I've contemplated loading it in a car with the rear seats folded. To do this I'd remove both front and rear wheels, lower the seat post and stem and then slide it in. I'm considering a car-rack/trailer hitch for vacationing this spring and summer ... anyone have any experience with Yakima or Thule tow- hitch racks? Ami On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?
Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the length with a rear seat. Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my thules. I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. Kelly Good luck with that. robert zeidler wrote: > Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would > like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, > theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ > a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, > slide the wheel in next to it > > Anyway, what is everybody else doing? > > RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I will also chime in from the fringes at 6'3" with a PBH around 91 I would be the short kid in the club. I hide my 220lbs well, but when I see pictures of myself on the roadeo, at times it looks like a toy beneath me. I cannot resist throwing out a "hows the weather up there" as it was the first thing that poped into my head when I made it home to take a look at this pic: http://oceanaircycles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/1.12-grocery-3.jpg As the tallest kid in the class my whole life I heard that almost as much as "so do you play basketball?" Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Thanks, Mike. The QB is a 64cm bike. I've added a nitto big rack to the back since the photos were taken. It's my favorite commute bike. Dave On Jan 12, 8:42 am, Mike wrote: > Hey Dave, that's a really nice Bombadil you have there. What size is > your QB. Our QB set-ups are very similar. > > For the group, here's a picture of Patrick's Bombadil. I was in the > Gorge last summer with my wife and we stopped at Multnomah Falls. I > was going to get a cup of coffee, saw some touring cyclist mulling > around and figured I'd talk to them when I noticed their bikes and saw > Patrick's Bombadil. It looked fantastic all decked out for touring. > Ironically, about 2 months later I was on a mini tour doing the same > route Patrick had just finished but in the opposite direction and at > right at the bottom of Old Man Pass this couple comes bombing down the > hill and the guy was clearly on a Bombadil. We didn't talk but it was > so funny to see that. Anyway, here's Patrick's Bombadil: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/4887334470/ > > --mike (who is too short for the tall riders group but might be > appropriate for a medium height long legged wide helmet wearing > rider's group) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Hi everybody: I've been away from email access for a couple of weeks, and am just reading this thread started by Robert. Great! I am 6'6", pbh 94, long torso, and ride a 68cm Quickbeam, along with several other tall bikes. I've been posting for years on this forum, its predecessor, and on the BOB list about large bikes, and thought it might be useful to have a forum just for the problems and joys of large bikes, so I have created a Google Group called "Large Bicycles." It's a little different than the Flickr group above, in that it isn't focussed just on Rivendells, although this is the company which has serves us so well in the present. Essentially, it's like Grant Peterson's original BOB list, but for people who are (loosely defined) 6'4" or over, and who ride bikes with (loosely defined) 66cm seat tubes and up. So if you're interested in participating, here's the address: http://groups.google.com/group/large-bicycles It's not moderated, but I might remind people to keep on topic from time to time. Anyway: if you're tall and would like sometimes to carry on more focussed discussions on the issues with large bicycles than you can here, then please join and we'll see how the group develops. Arthur S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Hey Dave, that's a really nice Bombadil you have there. What size is your QB. Our QB set-ups are very similar. For the group, here's a picture of Patrick's Bombadil. I was in the Gorge last summer with my wife and we stopped at Multnomah Falls. I was going to get a cup of coffee, saw some touring cyclist mulling around and figured I'd talk to them when I noticed their bikes and saw Patrick's Bombadil. It looked fantastic all decked out for touring. Ironically, about 2 months later I was on a mini tour doing the same route Patrick had just finished but in the opposite direction and at right at the bottom of Old Man Pass this couple comes bombing down the hill and the guy was clearly on a Bombadil. We didn't talk but it was so funny to see that. Anyway, here's Patrick's Bombadil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/4887334470/ --mike (who is too short for the tall riders group but might be appropriate for a medium height long legged wide helmet wearing rider's group) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Hey all Here are some pics of a 60cm loaded touring Bombadil (mine). It is a very good tall and heavy guy's touring bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45341...@n04/page2/ DC - 94pbh/205 pounds. On Jan 11, 12:04 pm, LouisvillePatrick wrote: > Hey Bobby, > Don't have the time at the moment to upload a picture. Will later > tonight. But here's how it worked out: > Tires: > -Marathons. 50lb pressure. Take no chances. 46mm. > > Racks: > -Old Man Mountain Extreme front Lowrider, skewer mounted. > -Old Man Mountain Sherpa rear rack, skewer mounted. > > Bags: > -Sackville Medium zip tied to top of rear rack and B-17 > -Jandd Mini Mountain pannier bags hanging on rear rack > -Ortleib full size rollers on the front lowrider. > -tent poles strapped to back of the sackville and remaining space of > rear rack. > > Misc: > -Three full Sig bottles in the cages and Camelback strapped over the > Sackville on the rear rack. Three bottles were NO WHERE NEAR enough > for a day's ride in the Mountains of Washington. We had no idea where > we'd find water, so we brought it with us. > > I'll post a pic soon. It worked like a dream. So stable. Plenty > fast and nimble for what we were doing. 60-70 miles per day. Massive > climbs. The frame didn't make a peep. > > More info than you probably wanted, but I can't say enough about the > Bomba for touring. > > Patrick > > On Jan 11, 12:53 pm, Montclair BobbyB > wrote: > > > > > Patrick: > > > Do you have pics of your loaded Bomba? I'd be curious to hear how you > > distributed weight. > > > Thx, > > > Bobby Not Quite Tall Enough at 6'1" Birmingham > > > On Jan 11, 8:41 am, LouisvillePatrick > > wrote: > > > > I'm 6'4", 280 lb. 96cm PBH > > > > 64cm Bomba (maybe should have gotten a 60. When I put on the Small > > > Block 8's, there isn't much room for bailout over the top tube. > > > Absolutely brilliant for fully loaded touring, though.) > > > 67cm Hilsen (should be delivered tomorrow!) > > > > I've found that the double top tube is the secret to my success and > > > frame longevity. I've grown to love the look. The stiffness and > > > support improvement is indisputable. > > > > I've toured, fully loaded, self-supported, on the Bomba every summer > > > since I got it. I've put close to 90 pounds on it with absolutely no > > > problem. Happy to discuss my touring experience with anyone! > > > > Patrick- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I'm just under the cutoff, of course, at a normal height of 6'2". 95cm pbh, and a 25" bike, but still just under the cutoff. However, I think I speak for everyone when I say we'd prefer blue jerseys with a red band and yellow accents over Hell's Angels colors. And if you could sing the Gigantor song while saving the world, that would also be good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5WuICBqrVo Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Jan 11, 7:28 am, robert zeidler wrote: > I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most > mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the > earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever > possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey > resembling Hell's Angels colors. > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
"On the cusp, and in the band". Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: rob markwardt Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:48:18 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group Boy, I feel like a shrimp at 6'. I do have the legs of a six-twoer though so I ride a 64. Rob "on the cusp" Markwardt On Jan 11, 7:28 am, robert zeidler wrote: > I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most > mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the > earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever > possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey > resembling Hell's Angels colors. > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Boy, I feel like a shrimp at 6'. I do have the legs of a six-twoer though so I ride a 64. Rob "on the cusp" Markwardt On Jan 11, 7:28 am, robert zeidler wrote: > I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most > mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the > earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever > possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey > resembling Hell's Angels colors. > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Gotta Q-beam, so I gotta pass. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AmiSingh Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:07:15 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group So who'se in for a 68 SimpleOne? Can we get 10? On Jan 11, 10:28 am, robert zeidler wrote: > I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most > mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the > earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever > possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey > resembling Hell's Angels colors. > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
So who'se in for a 68 SimpleOne? Can we get 10? On Jan 11, 10:28 am, robert zeidler wrote: > I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most > mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the > earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever > possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey > resembling Hell's Angels colors. > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
On Jan 7, 8:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? 6'-8" 195 lbs 103 PBH AHH 71 w/ 195 cranks Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Hey Bobby, Don't have the time at the moment to upload a picture. Will later tonight. But here's how it worked out: Tires: -Marathons. 50lb pressure. Take no chances. 46mm. Racks: -Old Man Mountain Extreme front Lowrider, skewer mounted. -Old Man Mountain Sherpa rear rack, skewer mounted. Bags: -Sackville Medium zip tied to top of rear rack and B-17 -Jandd Mini Mountain pannier bags hanging on rear rack -Ortleib full size rollers on the front lowrider. -tent poles strapped to back of the sackville and remaining space of rear rack. Misc: -Three full Sig bottles in the cages and Camelback strapped over the Sackville on the rear rack. Three bottles were NO WHERE NEAR enough for a day's ride in the Mountains of Washington. We had no idea where we'd find water, so we brought it with us. I'll post a pic soon. It worked like a dream. So stable. Plenty fast and nimble for what we were doing. 60-70 miles per day. Massive climbs. The frame didn't make a peep. More info than you probably wanted, but I can't say enough about the Bomba for touring. Patrick On Jan 11, 12:53 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Patrick: > > Do you have pics of your loaded Bomba? I'd be curious to hear how you > distributed weight. > > Thx, > > Bobby Not Quite Tall Enough at 6'1" Birmingham > > On Jan 11, 8:41 am, LouisvillePatrick > wrote: > > > > > I'm 6'4", 280 lb. 96cm PBH > > > 64cm Bomba (maybe should have gotten a 60. When I put on the Small > > Block 8's, there isn't much room for bailout over the top tube. > > Absolutely brilliant for fully loaded touring, though.) > > 67cm Hilsen (should be delivered tomorrow!) > > > I've found that the double top tube is the secret to my success and > > frame longevity. I've grown to love the look. The stiffness and > > support improvement is indisputable. > > > I've toured, fully loaded, self-supported, on the Bomba every summer > > since I got it. I've put close to 90 pounds on it with absolutely no > > problem. Happy to discuss my touring experience with anyone! > > > Patrick- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Patrick: Do you have pics of your loaded Bomba? I'd be curious to hear how you distributed weight. Thx, Bobby Not Quite Tall Enough at 6'1" Birmingham On Jan 11, 8:41 am, LouisvillePatrick wrote: > I'm 6'4", 280 lb. 96cm PBH > > 64cm Bomba (maybe should have gotten a 60. When I put on the Small > Block 8's, there isn't much room for bailout over the top tube. > Absolutely brilliant for fully loaded touring, though.) > 67cm Hilsen (should be delivered tomorrow!) > > I've found that the double top tube is the secret to my success and > frame longevity. I've grown to love the look. The stiffness and > support improvement is indisputable. > > I've toured, fully loaded, self-supported, on the Bomba every summer > since I got it. I've put close to 90 pounds on it with absolutely no > problem. Happy to discuss my touring experience with anyone! > > Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
OK - I went and created a Flickr Group called "Tall Riders" to make it official. Feel free to add your rig to the group, with these qualifiers: 64cm and up only - English equivalent is OK (25" and up) Rivendell preferred, but Riv-inspired/classic steel OK Doesn't have to belong to you. Photos of tall bikes from your past are welcome. I loaded a few from my past to get started. Have fun, and ride tall! http://www.flickr.com/groups/1602...@n21/pool/ Marty On Jan 11, 9:28 am, robert zeidler wrote: > I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most > mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the > earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever > possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey > resembling Hell's Angels colors. > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey resembling Hell's Angels colors. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: >> The ranks just keep growing! > > > So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, wrote: > The ranks just keep growing! So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
The ranks just keep growing! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: LouisvillePatrick Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:41:11 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group I'm 6'4", 280 lb. 96cm PBH 64cm Bomba (maybe should have gotten a 60. When I put on the Small Block 8's, there isn't much room for bailout over the top tube. Absolutely brilliant for fully loaded touring, though.) 67cm Hilsen (should be delivered tomorrow!) I've found that the double top tube is the secret to my success and frame longevity. I've grown to love the look. The stiffness and support improvement is indisputable. I've toured, fully loaded, self-supported, on the Bomba every summer since I got it. I've put close to 90 pounds on it with absolutely no problem. Happy to discuss my touring experience with anyone! Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I'm 6'4", 280 lb. 96cm PBH 64cm Bomba (maybe should have gotten a 60. When I put on the Small Block 8's, there isn't much room for bailout over the top tube. Absolutely brilliant for fully loaded touring, though.) 67cm Hilsen (should be delivered tomorrow!) I've found that the double top tube is the secret to my success and frame longevity. I've grown to love the look. The stiffness and support improvement is indisputable. I've toured, fully loaded, self-supported, on the Bomba every summer since I got it. I've put close to 90 pounds on it with absolutely no problem. Happy to discuss my touring experience with anyone! Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Another perk could be reducing the competition amongst ourselves for large frames off of eBay. I have the sneaking suspicion I have bid against some of you in a losing fashion during the last few years. So, I officially apologize for driving up your winning bids. When my new Rivendell arrives in the next 10- 15 months I hope to never buy another large sized eBay bike. Sincerely, Ryan Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I'm in 6"6". PBH 99. 208# riding a 66cm Mercian...and a 68cm custom Waterford Adventure cycle set up ala Rivendell. Hope I qualify. On Jan 7, 7:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I qualify somewhere between 6'6" or 6'7" and fluctuate between 225-235 lbs. More importantly, I see many potential benefits from being able to consult with an informal tall riders group who understand the challenges that size plays with one of the world's greatest activities-cycling. Currently double checking PBH and cross referencing saddle height for the custom paperwork that I need to send back to Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I'm only 6' but I think my 94cm PBH qualifies me as 'tall' 64cm Rambouillet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
On Jan 8, 10:22 am, Larry Schellhase wrote: ... > I am truly grateful to Grant and Rivendell for including tall frames in > their off the shelf inventory. It is truly rare to be able to buy a frame of > this size without getting it custom made. I believe the tall frames happened > at Rivendell because Bhima, the frame manager in the early part of this > century was very tall and Grant thought they should build frames that his > frame manager could ride. Yeah, and the large sizes are slowly contracting back to conventional standards as time progresses - but they're still the best selection in the business (VO told me they had no plans to make a larger frame "at least this year" ). When I mentioned Bhima's name to Jay several months ago, he said "sorry, I don't know who that is." I had to turn it into a joke with "well, everything I know about Rivendell is ten years old." Bhima may have been the early booster of really large tires, too. I remember talking with him, and I can't document it, but I seem to remember Grant writing about how "Bhima just swears by those Big Apples on his Atlantis." Did Bhima also get the first double top tube bike? Probably not, I'd bet a custom was first, but his was the first paratube Riv I remember seeing a photo of, anyway. One of the most unfortunate aspects of so much of Rivendell's ad copy, product descriptions and musings being on their website instead of in print is how ephemeral it all is. Every now and then I go to the site to try to re-remember something that I have a foggy memory of, and see it's modified or gone. The S24O info, for instance, is much more expansive in readers than what is now on the site. Much of the advice was tied in with products - and once the products are no longer for sale everything disappears. The cyclofiend site is the single best online source for obsolete Riv copy that I know, and I hope that it continues. Heck, I looked up the old Bike Pro online catalog recently, and it's still a great resource even though it's probably been out of business for over 10 years. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
on 1/8/11 11:27 AM, robert zeidler at zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > ...and may I please forward the 1st suggestion for a new 65cm+ model > range? The Tall-One? Maybe with a foamy beer on the headbadge? > > RBW could have a separate range of bikes under Redwood, sort of like > the Toyota/Lexus thing. Actually, I do think it is important to speak up (or I guess, since all's y'all are so tall, that you would be speaking down to us 6-footers...). Grant wrote specifically that the SimpLeone would be in a narrower range of sizes unless he received a commitment on them (...was it 10?...) for larger/smaller riders. I'm certainly _not_ trying to leverage anyone into buying something that they can't afford, but it would probably be helpful to let John at Rivbike.com know that you are in that size range. I've worked as a retail buyer, and estimating sizing ranges to stock is crazy-making stuff. Just moving clothing out of the system is a tricky prospect - I can imagine the pressure of stocking $1,100+ bike frames in slower moving sizes - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Three T-shirts Now Available: "I've Got Downtube Shifters..." S/S T-shirt Cyclocross - "More Cowbell" L/S T-shirt "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirt http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
...and may I please forward the 1st suggestion for a new 65cm+ model range? The Tall-One? Maybe with a foamy beer on the headbadge? RBW could have a separate range of bikes under Redwood, sort of like the Toyota/Lexus thing. Can you tell it snowed here las night? On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM, David Klatte wrote: > I think it is brilliant. Those people who can shop at the mall for > clothing have no idea the weird issues the very tall face. Rivendel is > such a tall friendly company that I think there are probably a > freakishly disproportionate number of us here. > > Has anyone tall tried the bike poncho? I'm worried my knees will get > wet. > > David (6'7", 100 PBH, 71 Hilsen) > > On Jan 7, 10:55 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. >> >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the >> riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dave Craig >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> >> Robert: >> >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? >> What's the Riv-related content? >> >> DC >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; >> 64cm Quickbeam) >> >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
My wife is 6' and has a pbh of 90.5, I am 6'5" and my pbh is 97.5. Early in 2003 we both ordered Rivendell's. When Grant sent to design sheets to us he included a note to me saying the bike he had designed for me was nearly identical to a 68cm Rambouillet and if I wanted to switch my order my deposit would be applied to the price of the Rambouillet. I now have the Rambouillet (repainted by JB) a 68cm Atlantis and a Bike Friday made from the Rambouillet dimensions. My wife has the Douglas Brooks blue Riv a Bike Friday and a Bruce Gordon BLT. I am truly grateful to Grant and Rivendell for including tall frames in their off the shelf inventory. It is truly rare to be able to buy a frame of this size without getting it custom made. I believe the tall frames happened at Rivendell because Bhima, the frame manager in the early part of this century was very tall and Grant thought they should build frames that his frame manager could ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I think it is brilliant. Those people who can shop at the mall for clothing have no idea the weird issues the very tall face. Rivendel is such a tall friendly company that I think there are probably a freakishly disproportionate number of us here. Has anyone tall tried the bike poncho? I'm worried my knees will get wet. David (6'7", 100 PBH, 71 Hilsen) On Jan 7, 10:55 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. > > OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the > riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Craig > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > Robert: > > Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or > observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? > What's the Riv-related content? > > DC > (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; > 64cm Quickbeam) > > On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Contests on the Bombadil! I just got mine and love it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Marty wrote: > 6"4"' 92pbh > > 60cm Bombadil on the way. > > A couple/three 64s of various types typically around, but I'm finding > the leg-swing less easy as time goes on. Hmm, I wonder if in twenty > years I can cut out the top-tube of the Bombadil and step through the > world's first Bombadez? > > Marty > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
6"4"' 92pbh 60cm Bombadil on the way. A couple/three 64s of various types typically around, but I'm finding the leg-swing less easy as time goes on. Hmm, I wonder if in twenty years I can cut out the top-tube of the Bombadil and step through the world's first Bombadez? Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I'd be very interested to hear about touring fully loaded. the good, the bad, etc. I'm very interested in doing same and have even put together a full 25" Cannondale rig, racks, bags, and some equipment to tip-toe into it. If time allows, it would be appreciated. RGZ On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > Well then in the name of truth justice and the american way.. you must > sell you're quickbeam to me, that a true bean pole can enjoy a single > speed. > > NO??? > I had to try. > > Robert F. Harrison wrote: >> Well that's just the thing not everyone with a larger frame is a >> bean-pole.I'm only a bit over 6 feet these days (I swear I was taller a >> decade or two ago), but my PBH is 94 so I've got a 66cm Quickbeam which fits >> perfectly. I also look less like a bean-pole than the base of a baobab tree. >> :-) >> >> Aloha! >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:38 PM, robert zeidler >> wrote: >> >> > Come on!! Where are all my fellow bean-poles? >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, wrote: >> > > Oh yeah... >> > > 68cm Riv Custom. >> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> > > >> > > -Original Message- >> > > From: Kelly Sleeper >> > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 >> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> > > >> > > While singing short people got no reason ... >> > > >> > > 6'5" tall >> > > 67 cm ahh >> > > 64 cm Bombadil >> > > >> > > 96.5 pbh >> > > 225lbs >> > > >> > > Looking for at least 65 cm single speed >> > > >> > > Kelly >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> > > >> > >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. >> > >> >> > >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves >> > the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. >> > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> > >> >> > >> -Original Message- >> > >> From: Dave Craig >> > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 >> > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> > >> >> > >> Robert: >> > >> >> > >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or >> > >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? >> > >> What's the Riv-related content? >> > >> >> > >> DC >> > >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; >> > >> 64cm Quickbeam) >> > >> >> > >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> > >>> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > . >> > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> > . >> > >> For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> >> > > >> > > -- >> > > You received this messa
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Oh yeah revisited 68cm Quickbeam On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > Oh yeah... > 68cm Riv Custom. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Kelly Sleeper > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > While singing short people got no reason ... > > 6'5" tall > 67 cm ahh > 64 cm Bombadil > > 96.5 pbh > 225lbs > > Looking for at least 65 cm single speed > > Kelly > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. >> >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the >> riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dave Craig >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> >> Robert: >> >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? >> What's the Riv-related content? >> >> DC >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; >> 64cm Quickbeam) >> >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >>> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Well then in the name of truth justice and the american way.. you must sell you're quickbeam to me, that a true bean pole can enjoy a single speed. NO??? I had to try. Robert F. Harrison wrote: > Well that's just the thing not everyone with a larger frame is a > bean-pole.I'm only a bit over 6 feet these days (I swear I was taller a > decade or two ago), but my PBH is 94 so I've got a 66cm Quickbeam which fits > perfectly. I also look less like a bean-pole than the base of a baobab tree. > :-) > > Aloha! > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:38 PM, robert zeidler > wrote: > > > Come on!! Where are all my fellow bean-poles? > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Oh yeah... > > > 68cm Riv Custom. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Kelly Sleeper > > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > > > > > While singing short people got no reason ... > > > > > > 6'5" tall > > > 67 cm ahh > > > 64 cm Bombadil > > > > > > 96.5 pbh > > > 225lbs > > > > > > Looking for at least 65 cm single speed > > > > > > Kelly > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. > > >> > > >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves > > the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. > > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: Dave Craig > > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 > > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > >> > > >> Robert: > > >> > > >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or > > >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? > > >> What's the Riv-related content? > > >> > > >> DC > > >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; > > >> 64cm Quickbeam) > > >> > > >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > > >>> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > Robert Harrison > rfharri...@gmail.com > statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Well then you're an honorary bean-pole! Welcome!!! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote: > Well that's just the thing not everyone with a larger frame is a > bean-pole.I'm only a bit over 6 feet these days (I swear I was taller a > decade or two ago), but my PBH is 94 so I've got a 66cm Quickbeam which fits > perfectly. I also look less like a bean-pole than the base of a baobab tree. > :-) > Aloha! > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:38 PM, robert zeidler > wrote: >> >> Come on!! Where are all my fellow bean-poles? >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, wrote: >> > Oh yeah... >> > 68cm Riv Custom. >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Kelly Sleeper >> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 >> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> > >> > While singing short people got no reason ... >> > >> > 6'5" tall >> > 67 cm ahh >> > 64 cm Bombadil >> > >> > 96.5 pbh >> > 225lbs >> > >> > Looking for at least 65 cm single speed >> > >> > Kelly >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. >> >> >> >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that >> >> involves the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than >> >> 64cm. >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Dave Craig >> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 >> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> >> >> >> Robert: >> >> >> >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or >> >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? >> >> What's the Riv-related content? >> >> >> >> DC >> >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; >> >> 64cm Quickbeam) >> >> >> >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> >>> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Robert Harrison > rfharri...@gmail.com > statrix.statrix.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Well that's just the thing not everyone with a larger frame is a bean-pole.I'm only a bit over 6 feet these days (I swear I was taller a decade or two ago), but my PBH is 94 so I've got a 66cm Quickbeam which fits perfectly. I also look less like a bean-pole than the base of a baobab tree. :-) Aloha! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:38 PM, robert zeidler wrote: > Come on!! Where are all my fellow bean-poles? > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > Oh yeah... > > 68cm Riv Custom. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kelly Sleeper > > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > > > While singing short people got no reason ... > > > > 6'5" tall > > 67 cm ahh > > 64 cm Bombadil > > > > 96.5 pbh > > 225lbs > > > > Looking for at least 65 cm single speed > > > > Kelly > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. > >> > >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves > the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Dave Craig > >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > >> > >> Robert: > >> > >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or > >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? > >> What's the Riv-related content? > >> > >> DC > >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; > >> 64cm Quickbeam) > >> > >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > >>> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Come on!! Where are all my fellow bean-poles? On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > Oh yeah... > 68cm Riv Custom. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Kelly Sleeper > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > While singing short people got no reason ... > > 6'5" tall > 67 cm ahh > 64 cm Bombadil > > 96.5 pbh > 225lbs > > Looking for at least 65 cm single speed > > Kelly > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. >> >> OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the >> riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dave Craig >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 >> To: RBW Owners Bunch >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group >> >> Robert: >> >> Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or >> observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? >> What's the Riv-related content? >> >> DC >> (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; >> 64cm Quickbeam) >> >> On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >>> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Oh yeah... 68cm Riv Custom. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group While singing short people got no reason ... 6'5" tall 67 cm ahh 64 cm Bombadil 96.5 pbh 225lbs Looking for at least 65 cm single speed Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. > > OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the > riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Craig > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > Robert: > > Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or > observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? > What's the Riv-related content? > > DC > (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; > 64cm Quickbeam) > > On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
6'6" tall 230 64cm Atlantis 65cm Redwood 68cm Redwood 67cm AHH 64cm Sam 62cm Hunqa (on the way) And way too many others (non-Riv). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group While singing short people got no reason ... 6'5" tall 67 cm ahh 64 cm Bombadil 96.5 pbh 225lbs Looking for at least 65 cm single speed Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. > > OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the > riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Craig > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > Robert: > > Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or > observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? > What's the Riv-related content? > > DC > (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; > 64cm Quickbeam) > > On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
While singing short people got no reason ... 6'5" tall 67 cm ahh 64 cm Bombadil 96.5 pbh 225lbs Looking for at least 65 cm single speed Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: > Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. > > OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the > riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Craig > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group > > Robert: > > Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or > observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? > What's the Riv-related content? > > DC > (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; > 64cm Quickbeam) > > On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: >> OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dave Craig Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group Robert: Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? What's the Riv-related content? DC (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; 64cm Quickbeam) On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
I'm in. 6'6", 99 PBH, 202cm wingspan. Hrm, I know this is an old run down pun fellas, but the RBW Basketball Team would be a lot of fun - I wonder how many people on the list are hoopers, and how BOBish translates over onto the basketball court. I could, provided we locate a backboard and rim, bring a ball to the Riv East Rally. I'll bring it anyway ... The finger spinning attempts would make a fun film for all of us to enjoy :) On Jan 7, 8:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Robert: Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? What's the Riv-related content? DC (6'2";37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; 64cm Quickbeam) On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler wrote: > OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
