Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Big Back Rack - LARGE

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The correct answer is:
"C) Ditch the rear rack entirely" 
Especially with a step throughish bike (when you're standing and giving it 
your all up whatever hill of death you may come across), but doubley 
especially considering your kids can carry their own stack of textbooks now.
-Kai

On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:14:25 AM UTC-5 masmojo wrote:

> Leah, A couple/few suggestions here:
>>
> A) There are plenty of lights that fit that little tab on the rack. 
> (Unfortunately that would make the existing light obsolete) You could still 
> use the same cable routing as now, just extend it up through the fender to 
> the rack mounting point.
> B) Take a hack saw and saw the light tab off the rack. cover up scar with 
> some silver paint. (I am sure Riv knows what kind of paint matches the 
> Nitto silver)
> C) Ditch the rear rack entirely; Since I stopped commuting I find the rear 
> rack/bag sort of superfluous. I am running a Med. Wald basket up front 
> mounted on a Surly 8 pack rack with a massive Realm Basket bag, so more 
> than enough capacity, but I could do with much less (& frequently do) and I 
> am guessing you could as well. I took the rear rack off my bike just prior 
> to my Western states circuit a month ago and I really didn't miss the extra 
> weight. It's a pity to weigh down a lively light bike with excess weight, 
> whether it be a Crust Titanium or a Platypus.
> IMHO I would ditch the rear rack and get a front rack. Bonus Front racks 
> typically have a more forward mounting position for your light which I 
> really appreciate.
>   
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
..any color will do
-Kai

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
> latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Just hit the link, 61 for the biggie? sadface.
I too loved my Quickbeams, two 68s. I'd buy more if I could but would 
welcome a brand new slightly tigged Roaduno in a size huge. Sloping tube 64 
might've done it, alas, it isn't meant to be...
Won't be fitting any of those 40 new Roscos either, but will enjoy the 
parade nonetheless
-Kai

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 8:01:25 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Fingers crossed that they'll make a big one...
> ..any color will do
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 6:03:18 PM UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
>> From today's BLAHG:
>>
>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
>> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
>> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
>> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>
>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
>> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
>> latter is unlikely : (
>>
>> - Nathan in PDX
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Winter Tire Recs

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pros, because January through April's gonna see more 
snow than ever!, probably won't melt until July in Northern Jersey, maybe 
August. 
-Kai

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 7:46:15 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> I put a pair of Snoqualmie Pass tires on my BMC monster cross this spring 
> and rode the hell out of them all summer, but as it gets colder and my 
> riding is increasingly restricted to commuting, I find myself using the 
> bike less and less. Objectively, I've had one puncture in about 1000 miles, 
> which is a lot better than the ostensibly tougher Pasela Protites I had on 
> the bike before. But I still don't find the Herse tires especially 
> confidence-inspiring in winter conditions, especially when I can't see the 
> road surface that well. I have some Riv gift credit forthcoming and I'm 
> thinking about getting some Shikoro's or Cazadero's in the 42mm size to put 
> on until brevet season gets going again in the spring. Those of you who've 
> used these Soma tires--is it worth swapping? Or should I trust in the 
> Herse's until experience shows otherwise? 
>
> Brady in Fort Lee, NJ 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Bad news.
I asked and they said they were cancelling all but the smallest of the 
singlespeeds because of my incessant badgering. Sorry 61ers, Sorry 57ers. 
Sorry 59ers, Sorry 57.75ers. No singlespeeds for anybody over 5'4"...
-Kai 



JUST KIDDING!!  There's already a 64 planned, and with a 6% sloping toptube 
it'll be a beast for most anybody.
Yay!!  


On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 5:05:42 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
> all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
> decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
> doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
> cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
> self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
> dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
> to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
> informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
> prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
> If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
> spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
> that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
> business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
> comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
> win-win.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Howzabout a 68 Zombiebeam? (if you're familiar with Birdman's 'beam you'll 
know what I mean). I've got two corpses...:)
-Kai
On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 7:03:17 PM UTC-5 Paul Richardson wrote:

> okay, so three of us pulling for the much-larger-than-61cm frameset...is 
> that enough of a critical mass to convince the powers that be?  
>
> barring that, who's holding a 68cm quickbeam and wants to free up room in 
> the stable?
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 4:40:14 PM UTC-5 Scott Calhoun wrote:
>
>> My Quickbeam is spaced to 130mm and I use the Surly cassette spacer and 
>> cog kit to get a perfect chainline. I like the 130 spacing as I can use any 
>> of my road wheels. Also, I run 43mm Gravel Kings on my QB no problem. I 
>> consider the geometry on my QB near perfect as an all around road bike, and 
>> it is nearly identical to the current (2019 forward) Roadeo geo (72.5 HTA, 
>> 72 STA in size 63cm Roadeo, same as on the 64cm 2006 QB). It'll be 
>> interesting to see how the RoadUno is designed. 
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:29:47 AM UTC-7 Pete B wrote:
>>
>>> This bike sounds a lot like the Rosco Roads, which used SimpleOne forks, 
>>> but tire clearance with fenders is apparently better . My Rosco Road has 
>>> 130mm rear spacing and I do 700x35 to be on the safe side, but could 
>>> probably do 700x38. The RU is supposed to do 700x45 with fenders. I 
>>> wouldn't have guessed that'd be easy to do with 120mm frame spacing, but 
>>> the Quickbeam probably gets pretty close to that, right? I assume the frame 
>>> is spaced at 120, and not just the hub.
>>>
>>> 120mm frame spacing is desirable because it allows a larger chainring 
>>> (>40t) to be installed with good chainline on a 120mm hub which aren't 
>>> really specialty items. I've done several conversions of 120mm wheels on 
>>> 126mm and 130mm frames using axle spacers to make up the difference. A 120 
>>> fixed or free rear hub dictates chainring choice. You basically have to run 
>>> what will not hit the chainstay while giving good chainline. Often that 
>>> means something smaller than 42t. A 42x15 is a nice combination for just 
>>> riding around, but if you want a bigger gear, you're out of luck. Better to 
>>> go with a bigger front ring like a 44 or a 46 and then you can swap out 
>>> freewheels and cogs to get the combo you want. If you don't care about 
>>> riding fixed, 130mm hub spacing is easy, because you can just use a regular 
>>> road cassette hub and adjust the chainline on the rear wheel using spacer 
>>> kits like the kind Surly makes. Then you can put a bigger chainring on the 
>>> outside of the spider or use a longer BB to get the ring clear of the 
>>> chainstay.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote:
>>>
 I expect these are sized like the more recent Rivendells such as the 
 Sam Hillborne, etc. The 54cm would be the right size for me, and I would 
 have ridden a 56 or 58cm Quickbeam, for example.

 Chris


 On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 8:58:54 PM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:

> Okay, after reading the obscure details on the R1, I stand corrected. 
> Despite the shocking shortcoming of its very limited PBH range, it has 
> one 
> great advantage over the QB of yore, and THAT is support for wider tires. 
> I 
> tried running Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Roads (38mm) on my Orange QB, and they 
> just only barely fit. Currently I roll on 38mm Ocean Air Soma C-Lines, 
> which fit just fine without fenders. But if the R1 will go well into the 
> mid-40's, yes, that is an improvement.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>


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Re: [RBW] Alternative to Velo Orange Wheel Stabilizer

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

+1 for velcro straps. Every bike has one wrapped around the handlebar. Use 
it to hold your front brake lever and B.O.B.'s your uncle!
-Kai

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:09:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Another product that fails to meet the "no user action required" 
> requirement is a Shimano headset locker for city bikes.  Google "HP-NX10 
> headset locker".  I haven't used that product.  I use velcro straps when I 
> need to prevent wheel flop.  I leave the right length velcro strap 
> permanently attached to each of my two tandems, which are the bikes that 
> most require this kind of thing.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-8 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>> My solution probably doesn't meet your requirements, but boy does it do 
>> what you want.  It's a commercial product called a SteerStopper [
>> https://steerstopper.com].  It holds my front wheel complete straight 
>> and firmly whenever I engage it. It doesn't meet your need to not do 
>> anything to make it work.  In the case of the SteerStopper, you simply 
>> lower the retracted ball arm, which is attached to the stem and insert it 
>> in the holder attached to the top tube.  It took about 10 minutes to 
>> install.
>>
>>  I use it for three purposes.  First, whenever I engage the kickstand, I 
>> use it as it makes the bike much more stable.  Second, I use it when I 
>> carry my bike in a roof rack.  Lifting the bike is much easier and placing 
>> the wheels in the tray is straightforward and without fuddling with the 
>> front wheel.  Finally, I use it when I store my bike, which involves 
>> lifting the bike to a vertical position and hanging it from a hook.
>>
>> I don't think I would ever have another bike without this.  And I have no 
>> relationship with the company beyond being a loyal customer.
>>
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, VA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 11:22:27 AM UTC-5 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> I use a toe clip strap to lock the front brake lever. If the wheel can't 
>>> roll, the bike wont fall when loading/unloading panniers. 
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 3:14:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 +1. I use my bike/bikes for grocery shopping -- wheel them into the 
 aisles -- and few things in this world are more annoying than trying to 
 strap your pannier or saddlebag closed in a busy grocery store with the 
 front wheel flopping back and forth and the bike trying to slip and fall 
 under your and passers'-by feet. ("Passer-byes' feets? Passer's by's 
 feet's? Passers' bys' feets'? help!).

 On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 2:49 PM Bob B  wrote:

> Besides what the subject says...
>
> I'm looking for a solution to wheel tippage while using a regular 
> kickstand that:
>
>- Does *not* require you to do anything (e.g.: flick down a 
>flickstand)
>- Isn't dangerous
>- Looks cleaner/simpler than the VO product.
>- Lasts a while so I can forget it's there
>- Can be a DIY solution
>
> Include pics on your bike if you have a good setup!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob B.
> Brooklyn, NY
>
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[RBW] Re: Recommendations for Front Der for Clem H?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

How wide is your bottom bracket? You could widen a smidge and it could 
solve the clearance problem, and that would increase your bottom bracket 
collection without adding to your front derailer collection. I have a 103 
that's certainly too narrow a bottom bracket, and sorry, no obvious answer 
about the derailleur, but them's complicated.
-Kai

On Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:21:06 PM UTC-5 Ray wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I bought a used Clem H frame from the group a couple months ago and have 
> been patiently collecting parts to set it up. I thought I was all finished 
> and had it put together when I found that all of the front derailleurs in 
> my parts bin are too long and rub the big chainring when shifting. In the 
> picture attached you can see that I have it as high as I can raise it 
> without covering the water bottle boss, but it doesn't leave enough space 
> for the 46t chainring. 
>
> Is anyone running a triple on their Clem and can recommend a FD? I am not 
> picky at all when it comes to the front derailleur but just want to make 
> sure it fits. 
>
> Thanks for your help!
> Ray
>

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[RBW] Re: Running a Mark's rack/basket....AND a handlebar bag?!?!?!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

No, not ok. that's going to have ill, very ill, or maybe very very very ill 
affects on your steering when it's even remotely snug (it could tighten up 
at will). You're looking for a failsafe, not something to actually do 
anything until it's needed. You might try a fairly loose loop of paracord 
or heavy shoelace, just long enough to not catch or bind, but not too long 
or it'll get into your brakes and wheel. Tying off to the handlebar is 
straightforward because it moves with the rack, headtubes don't so keep it 
loose[ish]. And to keep it up and out of the moving bits, consider tying 
off to the horizontal top bar of your basket directly in front of the 
tombstone, that way it won't want to get fussy with your headset.
Have fun!
-Kai

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:54:22 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's a photo of what I'm thinking about doing with the strap and head 
> tube...
> [image: irish.jpg]
> The strap is looped through each side of the tombstone twice...once 
> through and around the head tube on the opposite side, and then once though 
> the inside of the tombstone and back on the same side of the head tube (if 
> that makes sense).
>
> It's snug...but my two concerns are...
> 1. it won't stop the rack/basket from crashing into the front wheel if the 
> rack fails (I'm not a physics person...but I'm guessing there's more 
> holding power vertically than horizontally)
> 2. The strap is going to dull up or rub off the paint on the head tube.
>
> HOWEVER...as I was typing this, I found this...
>
> https://13507435628737481763.googlegroups.com/attach/26c66c05ba4e4/IMG_1683.JPG?part=0.2=1=ANaJVrEq-9QnruTkMcmxuNN9WRRDupm4Sh5lxv-I6NA_WVq9zMoW7YG8PJm6dkg0zmWGvc0jPMXrF4yVRs-NP2B3aA4xDxxQ3P78klLrAgHSI79Llf-AOr8
>
> It looks like lashing the tombstone to the head tube has been an option 
> for at least Soma and their "Manny Strap". I'm guessing I'm okay with it 
> the way I have it.
>
> Right? 
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:19:16 AM UTC-6 Ben Mihovk wrote:
>
>> Hey all!
>> I recently set up my Atlantis with a Mark's rack and medium Walk zip-tied 
>> to it. I double strutted the rack and have the Irish strap connecting the 
>> tombstone to the bars (Chocos). 
>>
>> I have an x-small saddle sack that I love and was offered a matching one 
>> at a great price. I love the way the x-small sack looks/fits on my 
>> handlebars, but I'm having some serious issues figuring out how to strap 
>> the tombstone for support while having a handlebar bag.
>>
>> One solution I might have is to strap the tombstone to the headtube 
>> horizontally. I did it a minute ago and looped the Irish strap a bunch of 
>> times and tightened it up. Is this good enough for supporting the rack if 
>> the tange fails? Will the strap on the frame rub off the paint or top/clear 
>> coat? 
>>
>> Any ideas on how to have both a Mark's rack and x-small handlebar bag are 
>> welcome. 
>>
>> For what it's worth...I don't plan on ever exceeding the 4 pound 
>> recommendation on the rack. I've used it to carry my 3 pound laptop and 
>> charger (with a Captain Hook), to grab a 3 pound bag of groceries, etc...I 
>> may push it to a six pack of beer, but I have a rear rack and panniers if I 
>> need to carry anything heavy. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ben
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: cold weather winter riding tips

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

My favorite thing winter items are split finger mitts that allow for my 
pointer/middle and ring/pinky to have skin to skin contact. The split 
allows for good braking while holding tight to the bars. Also known as 
Lobster mitts. Everything else is just more clothes, but my hands...
-Kai

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 8:56:19 AM UTC-5 br...@onenaturellc.com 
wrote:

> I'm curious to know what old time riders used to do to ride in sub 40 
> degree f weather. I figure my fellow riv superfans here might have some 
> experiences to share. I'm writing from 12508 zip code. We often get a 
> precious few sunny hours mid-day when the temps slip into mid-thirties in 
> the winter and the heavily salted country roads are for the most part ice 
> free. For the record, I already tried this "zwift" thing and it isn't for 
> me ha ha.
>

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Re: [RBW] head badges

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

And make sure to stick it to the headbadge first, then trim away any 
unsightly tape while you've got the edges in easy sight of your x-acto 
blade, and stick that sucker willy nilly!*  As opposed to on the bike frame 
first, which would lead to frustrations, or incomplete adhesion depending 
on how much tape you had sticking out or sunken in**
-Kai
*or carefully
**duh, which is what you're probably thinking, but just in case.
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:49:40 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> I’ve used this successful in similar applications:
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Heavy-Duty-Exterior-Mounting-Tape-Holds/dp/B4Z4BV/ref=sr_1_20?crid=1JKVL6O7M6U5E=1=3m+double+sided+tape+heavy+duty=1605307721=3m+%2Caps%2C232=8-20
>  
> 
>
> Designed for outdoor use, so it won’t fall off if it gets wet.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Nov 13, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
>
> According to the PDF catalog on their website, Rivendell uses "double 
> stick tape" to put the headbadges on. Maybe some digging on 3M's website 
> might turn up a good solution.,
>
> Ben
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 4:40 PM Brian Witt  wrote:
>
>> Hi allin my stable of bikes I have a Bob Jackson touring.  As you may 
>> have heard, they are closing up shop. I managed to buy  a  cast  head badge 
>> for my bike to replace the decal, and i noticed the head badge on my 
>> Rivendell Quickbeam is attached with some sort of adhesive (i  think...)... 
>> The Bob Jackson  badge came with two very small screws does anybody 
>> have an idea about what sort of adhesive The guys at Rivendell use?  I 
>> could drill and tap the head tube but i am not confident enough to try!  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sams and Thule Ridealong

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Speaking with little authority outside of the fact that it is the only bike 
I've ever sold and I regret it, the Sam Hillborne can handle it, no worries.
-Kai

On Friday, November 20, 2020 at 5:58:33 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> I noticed that some more Sam Hillbornes are coming in December in my size, 
> and I’d love to snag one. My only hesitation is that the frame it would be 
> replacing—a Jamis Aurora—also pairs nicely with our Thule Ridealong and 
> about 35 pounds of toddler. Is the Sam stout enough to handle a loaded 
> child seat without getting too noodley? I gather that the Homer definitely 
> isn’t, and I don’t think I’d try it on my BMC monster cross (even if cable 
> routing were not an issue). I may grab one anyone and wait until she 
> outgrows our current setup, but it would be helpful to know if anyone has 
> experience carrying a kid on a Sam.
>
>  Thanks!
>
> Brady in NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Real Maintenance

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I'm blessed/cursed with two identical Bubbes that get all the miles. Back 
when I pedaled one bike along with glee, blissfully unaware to the day to 
day degradation, I'd ride it until it was in major need of everything (and 
I can do 98% of my own maintenance), happily. Now that I've got the one to 
compare to the other and they're out of balance, it bothers me, so I have 
to work very hard to keep them at the same rate of decay. 
It's a real struggle. 
The emergence of some steel forced me to change eight brake pads just last 
week!! 
Some day I might have the luxury of time to dwell on what's needed, but for 
now it's all I can do to get them worn down...
Enjoy!

Just finished the breakfast dishes and need to get these kids in the sun 
before it starts to rain (everyone off screens!! (especially me:))
-Kai

On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 9:14:14 AM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> I’ll clean my bikes every week in the winter, every other week for the 
> rest of the year unless I’ve been riding in the rain and picked up a lot of 
> sludge. I always check wheels for true and tires for wear and debris at the 
> same time. Otherwise I maintain things as needed. I keep an eye on pad and 
> chain wear and try to replace ahead of schedule to minimize wear on rims , 
> chainrings and cassettes. I replace bar tape at the end of the summer and 
> renew cables and housing, if necessary, at the same time. (I once dropped a 
> bike off at the shop for new cables and a new headset and let’s just say 
> they were not impressed with the amount of sweat that had accumulated on 
> the bars and steerer tube). One thing I learned to do after losing a pair 
> of Silver bar end shifters to accumulated gunk is to hit the shifters with 
> a spray of WD-40 every now and again, more often in summer. Keeps the cable 
> end from corroding into the shifter and sweat from stopping the little 
> spring inside from expanding. I also figured out how to get the casing off 
> and clean the insides, but that’s only ever a measure of last resort. 
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2020 at 7:03:16 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> bjm.. wrote: 
>> *I need to invest in a repair stand so I can do maintenance without 
>> flipping my bike upside down and letting the grips and saddle take a 
>> beating. *
>>
>> Meanwhile just throw down a moving blanket.
>>
>> If one of my bikes needs maintenance, I buy another one on craigslist and 
>> fix it up with stuff from my spare parts box.
>>
>> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 10:22:00 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I took my front wheel off to see how gross the underside of my fender 
>>> was. I almost gagged.
>>>
>>> I need to invest in a repair stand so I can do maintenance without 
>>> flipping my bike upside down and letting the grips and saddle take a 
>>> beating. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 8:07:01 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Better than rotating the tires is getting a front/rear "pipeline" 
 going: once the rear is worn, put the front onto the rear and get a fresh 
 front tire.  I learned this somewhat recently, and the reason being that 
 it 
 minimizes the chance of a front tire blow-out, which is a lot more 
 dangerous than a rear.  

 As for maintenance, I am of two minds:  on the one hand, I'm a believer 
 in preventative maintenance, but on the other, sometimes things wear 
 themselves into a happy place, and just disassembling and re-assembling 
 during cleaning can upset the balance. 

 With this in mind, I tend to leave things alone if they are running 
 smooth and quiet until they're not. BB's and headsets are probably happy 
 for 5+ years, but I'm trying to get the hang of checking my chain stretch 
 every six months or so and replacing it as soon as its worn so that my 
 cassette and chainrings can last 5+ years too. Similarly, ensuring I never 
 run the brake pads down to the metal bits is key to the longevity of the 
 wheels so I try to be real good about keeping tabs on those. 

 I lube my chain as soon as it sounds dry (or starts to squeak) rather 
 than at any particular interval, and I put a few drops of lube in the 
 cable 
 housing ends every so often (maybe 1-2 times per year). 

 That didn't really answer the question... I suppose my answer is that I 
 consider "real maintenance" to be when something has lost function and 
 needs attention :D




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Re: [RBW] Cutting rack stays

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

To add a couple more cents, regarding grinding dust- most abrasive cutters 
like grinding wheels on dremels and larger hand grinders are made to cut 
iron and most all ferrous stuff. If one uses the cutter on aluminum or 
brass, the "pores" of the wheel will clog with those softer stickier dusts 
and eventually become burnishing wheels. Not much of an issue with dremel 
cutters as they're usually one and done, but with your larger tools, it can 
be a headache. And, and, and... if you cut steel/iron first, it'll imbed 
steel dust into the surface of the cut, and can rust!!  Nobody likes rusty 
aluminum (however insignificant), am I right?  So, in my opinion, either 
Alex's bolt cutters or a hack saw in chorus with a file to finish things up 
real pretty is the best course of action when shortening them struts.
All that said, I'll say to ditch those adjustable racks and pay somebody a 
bunch of money to build purpose built racks with set stays.
-Kai

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 10:17:45 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> For me/us the quickest way was to keep everything on the bike for 
>>> fitting/leveling, mark stays, loosen rack and slide the rack down on the 
>>> strut so there's enough clearance to cut, cut with bolt cutters and clean 
>>> up with a coarse file.
>>>
>>
> No fumes/grinding dust contaminating your breathing space, overheating 
> struts and no risk of tools jumping off the strut and nicking anything. 
>
> my two cents ☺
>
> Alex in Rochester 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hillborne's the only bike I've ever sold, and it pains me so terribly awful 
to think of it. It's in a good place though...  Enjoy them Hillybornes!
-Kai

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:03:21 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Heartfelt agreement on the Hillborne sentiment. It's the only bike I've 
> owned in my life that I am certain I will never want to sell, and I've 
> owned 40+ bikes (5 in current stable)! 

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone ever made a Rivendell custom step-through?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Where does step through start? I consider my Rosco mountain a step through, 
but I do need to lift my leg a bit. I think Clem L is lower, but I've never 
swung a leg through one.
-Kai

On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 11:21:14 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> There's a famous one in Seattle, it's purple. Maybe not step through 
> enough? Pretty step through though..
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 11:06:41 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> You know I’m a Clem-lover, and mine took me through the worst days of my 
>> life this last year. It’s nearly perfect and has only one tiny flaw - it’s 
>> a bit heavy/overbuilt for a woman my size. I’m also a Platypus lover, and 
>> it’s only drawback is that I miss my step-through top tube. Otherwise both 
>> bikes are perfect.
>>
>> I was on a night ride tonight, and when I nearly kicked my top tube I 
>> wondered...has anyone made a custom step-through? And why ever not?
>>
>> If Rivendell ever saw fit to make a Susie Clem, I’d jump. But I don’t 
>> think there are plans for that, so I’m left to wonder...what a custom step 
>> through could be like... This is speculation only. But isn’t it kind of fun?
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: Has anyone ever made a Rivendell custom step-through?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

There's a famous one in Seattle, it's purple. Maybe not step through 
enough? Pretty step through though..
-Kai

On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 11:06:41 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> You know I’m a Clem-lover, and mine took me through the worst days of my 
> life this last year. It’s nearly perfect and has only one tiny flaw - it’s 
> a bit heavy/overbuilt for a woman my size. I’m also a Platypus lover, and 
> it’s only drawback is that I miss my step-through top tube. Otherwise both 
> bikes are perfect.
>
> I was on a night ride tonight, and when I nearly kicked my top tube I 
> wondered...has anyone made a custom step-through? And why ever not?
>
> If Rivendell ever saw fit to make a Susie Clem, I’d jump. But I don’t 
> think there are plans for that, so I’m left to wonder...what a custom step 
> through could be like... This is speculation only. But isn’t it kind of fun?
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Drop Bar/Stem/Brake/Shifter set up

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I've got a 15cm stem and some noodles with a stem mounted shifter and 
reverse brakes you could put on the noodles. Sound perfect? Are you within 
bicycle delivery of Brooklyn? 
Or let us know which kind of what you'd like or if you're entertaining 
suggestions. To start, I'd suggest not putting the reverse levers on the 
noodles because that would be bananas, especially with that ultra long 15cm 
stem. 
What stem are you using with the Albatross? You wanna stretch waaay out 
with drops?, or are you picturing a 0-5cm stem getting those drops up 
close? I've got a fiver around somewhere that I used to think was short, 
but it's enormous compared to zeros.
Regardless, happy new year to all!
-Kai 


On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 5:06:36 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> As the title suggests, I'm looking to see if anyone has a drop bar, stem, 
> shifter, and brake lever set up they are looking to rid themselves of. Let 
> me know what you have! I'm looking to switch from my current Albatross set 
> up on the ol' Sam.
>
> Thanks all!
>

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[RBW] Re: Stolen: Silver Clem L 59 SS (NYC)

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That bike looks/looked great! I'll keep an eye out. It's likely spray 
painted all one color now, tires and all, and still looks good! We'll find 
it, hard to miss...
-Kai
 

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 2:54:07 AM UTC-5 janehr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I am gonna start with the good news: Matthew Williams' post on this forum 
> about a 59 Clem Smith Jr on Craigslist Indianapolis helped me get a 
> replacement bike within a week (green H-frame Clem). Yay! Thank you, 
> Matthew and thank you, Josh in IN.
>
> Sharing the below details in case someone comes across my stolen bike:
> L-Style Clem Smith Jr., 59 cm, gray/silver frame (Serial A0A32CG0377) with 
> mostly silver polished components: Jones H-Loop bar, Paul Love Letter 
> levers, Crust/Nitto stem, White Industries crankset, Chromag Scarab pedals, 
> Eno SS Hub, SON dynamo hub, Edelux headlight, Honjo fenders, Rene Herse 
> front rack. Black components: Velocity Cliffhanger rims, Panaracer Gravel 
> King tires, Yepp rear rack, Brooks B67.
> Taken from my home in Brooklyn, NY,  November 18, 2020. 
>
> Two different Clems but both so fun! 
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem L Complete (64cm)

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That's a heckuva deal. Worth that for the wheels and tires alone!(nearly) 
Is that the standard boscomoose angle or the ultra rare nonstandard 
version? Great bicycle.
-Kai

On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:02:24 AM UTC-5 Reid Echols wrote:

> Hello Bunch, 
>
> Thanks to the purchase of a new Gus and the recent Albatrizing of my 
> Atlantis, I am thinking it may be time to let the Clem go to someone who 
> will ride it more often. It is listed as a complete, built as a 1x10 
> cruiser with some nice upgrades (fillet-brazed Bosco Bullmoose bars, 
> Velocity Cliffhanger wheels, tubeless Compass tires, Brooks saddle, NOS 
> Gipiemme seat post, etc.). It’s a big bike: under 6’ 2” or so probably need 
> not apply. This bike is a true magic carpet; rides smoothly and 
> surprisingly spry-ly, built to last a lifetime.
>
> I'm asking essentially the retail price for a new Clem complete locally 
> ($1650), which seems fair given the upgrades. However, for the RBW folks 
> I'm willing to go a bit lower or entertain offers. Shipping will, as you 
> might expect, be expensive, but I'd split professional pack and ship for 
> the right buyer (and to support my LBS). 
>
> Photos here 
> , but 
> please let me know if this wonky new interface doesn't work. If you are 
> unable to DM, my email is just my first and last name, all lower case, at 
> gmail. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Reid Echols 
> in Austin, TX 
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Here's some bad press for the 
Fookers- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BoEZWUh9Nw
This guy's pretty upset about them. I'm using the metal versions, they 
don't look as cool as the Race Face pedals. I still love them, but I know I 
shouldn't.
-Kai

On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 9:34:16 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Yup, plus one on Spencer's experience. Every V.P. pedal I've had has 
> developed problems. I've only had two types, 1 set of Harriers, and 2 of 
> the 001s, all rubbish. I'm on to Fookers, which are overpinned as all heck, 
> but my feet aren't slipping or making unfunny noises and shaking anymore. 
> And them Fookers are inexpensive, though stylistically loud.
> -Kai
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 7:06:57 PM UTC-5 spencer robinson wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>> I rebuild a set last year, you just need a socket that will fit down in 
>> there to get that nut off...one side is threads reversed, If I remember 
>> correctly. Then with a pick or fat screw, get the old bearing out..
>> In hind sight, if I had to do it again, I would toss the pedals in the 
>> garbage bin, You can get a brand new set of Clem pedals for not much more 
>> than the rebuild kit. The rebuild lasted about a month and then 
>> clickclick.click.  I am disappointed with the performance of the VP 
>> 001 pedals. They are really nice but seem to wear out quickly. The Clem’s 
>> are lighter and at the Clem price, you don’t feel so bad when or if they 
>>  give up on you. I have a set of Clem’s that have out lasted the 001 model. 
>> Maybe the composite does not telegraph the bearing clicking.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:59:13 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> I did see that, thank you.
>>> I think there are some differences between those two pedals...but I can 
>>> make some assumptions based on the video about how the 001 should go back 
>>> together...would just rather have a definitive how-to
>>> JS
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:57:46 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>>> There used to be a video on the VP website, but it's not there anymore. 
>>>> There is only a video for the Harrier rebuild. 
>>>> https://www.vpcomponents.com/vp-harrier-dh5-rebuild-instructions/
>>>> I didn't watch it, and you probably already found it, but if not, maybe 
>>>> that's helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 5:21:52 PM UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> Looking for some assistance re: VP-001 rebuilding
>>>>> I've managed to find a VP-001 rebuild kit, but can't seem to find any 
>>>>> info online about how to go about rebuilding them.
>>>>> Does anyone have info regarding that?
>>>>> I've managed to take apart the offending pedal (the right one) and 
>>>>> successfully tapped out 2 bearings.
>>>>> But I'm not sure about how get them back in...also I'm not sure if one 
>>>>> is different from the other and if one needs to go in first, etc.
>>>>> There are also collar bushings in the rebuild kit, however no bushings 
>>>>> like that in my pedal body.
>>>>> If you've done this successfully, I'd much appreciate to hear how it 
>>>>> went
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> JS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 5:29:34 AM UTC-4 spencer robinson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did email Rivendell as I did not see the VP 001 rebuild kits listed 
>>>>>> but the other Spencer looked for me and found a few kits in stock. The 
>>>>>> rebuild is pretty straightforward and it just involved finding the right 
>>>>>> socket and pick to get the bushings out. The bearings are a sealed 
>>>>>> design. 
>>>>>> Easy to do and saved a set of pedals. I think the cost to rebuild them 
>>>>>> was 
>>>>>> worthwhile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 11:00:52 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have no idea if this helps or not, I take any pedal I buy apart 
>>>>>>> upon install and liberally apply grease in the axle. Enough that it 
>>>>>>> oozes 
>>>>>>> out when it's back together. Knock on a Gorillas tree, everything has 
>>>>>>> worked perfectly. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Some brands have very little grease from the factory. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Before assuming the bearings are gone, if you hear noises just 
>>>>>>> take it apart and grease it very well. Try it out !  Grease is a great 
>>>>>>> thing !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Yup, plus one on Spencer's experience. Every V.P. pedal I've had has 
developed problems. I've only had two types, 1 set of Harriers, and 2 of 
the 001s, all rubbish. I'm on to Fookers, which are overpinned as all heck, 
but my feet aren't slipping or making unfunny noises and shaking anymore. 
And them Fookers are inexpensive, though stylistically loud.
-Kai

On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 7:06:57 PM UTC-5 spencer robinson wrote:

> Hi John,
> I rebuild a set last year, you just need a socket that will fit down in 
> there to get that nut off...one side is threads reversed, If I remember 
> correctly. Then with a pick or fat screw, get the old bearing out..
> In hind sight, if I had to do it again, I would toss the pedals in the 
> garbage bin, You can get a brand new set of Clem pedals for not much more 
> than the rebuild kit. The rebuild lasted about a month and then 
> clickclick.click.  I am disappointed with the performance of the VP 
> 001 pedals. They are really nice but seem to wear out quickly. The Clem’s 
> are lighter and at the Clem price, you don’t feel so bad when or if they 
>  give up on you. I have a set of Clem’s that have out lasted the 001 model. 
> Maybe the composite does not telegraph the bearing clicking.
>
> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:59:13 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> I did see that, thank you.
>> I think there are some differences between those two pedals...but I can 
>> make some assumptions based on the video about how the 001 should go back 
>> together...would just rather have a definitive how-to
>> JS
>>
>> On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:57:46 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> There used to be a video on the VP website, but it's not there anymore. 
>>> There is only a video for the Harrier rebuild. 
>>> https://www.vpcomponents.com/vp-harrier-dh5-rebuild-instructions/
>>> I didn't watch it, and you probably already found it, but if not, maybe 
>>> that's helpful.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 5:21:52 PM UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
 Hello
 Looking for some assistance re: VP-001 rebuilding
 I've managed to find a VP-001 rebuild kit, but can't seem to find any 
 info online about how to go about rebuilding them.
 Does anyone have info regarding that?
 I've managed to take apart the offending pedal (the right one) and 
 successfully tapped out 2 bearings.
 But I'm not sure about how get them back in...also I'm not sure if one 
 is different from the other and if one needs to go in first, etc.
 There are also collar bushings in the rebuild kit, however no bushings 
 like that in my pedal body.
 If you've done this successfully, I'd much appreciate to hear how it 
 went
 thanks
 JS


 On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 5:29:34 AM UTC-4 spencer robinson 
 wrote:

> I did email Rivendell as I did not see the VP 001 rebuild kits listed 
> but the other Spencer looked for me and found a few kits in stock. The 
> rebuild is pretty straightforward and it just involved finding the right 
> socket and pick to get the bushings out. The bearings are a sealed 
> design. 
> Easy to do and saved a set of pedals. I think the cost to rebuild them 
> was 
> worthwhile.
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 11:00:52 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>I have no idea if this helps or not, I take any pedal I buy apart 
>> upon install and liberally apply grease in the axle. Enough that it 
>> oozes 
>> out when it's back together. Knock on a Gorillas tree, everything has 
>> worked perfectly. 
>>
>>   Some brands have very little grease from the factory. 
>>
>>   Before assuming the bearings are gone, if you hear noises just take 
>> it apart and grease it very well. Try it out !  Grease is a great thing !
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS- Billie bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Bars are claimed. Thanks
-Kai

On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 11:31:10 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Have seen some stem swaps in the search for reach nirvana, but they're 
> clean and strong and yours for $75 plus shipping.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xxWQeqNCx7kTJprf8
> Would make a great last minute Father's day gift.
> Thanks
> -Kai
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[RBW] FS- Billie bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Have seen some stem swaps in the search for reach nirvana, but they're 
clean and strong and yours for $75 plus shipping.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xxWQeqNCx7kTJprf8
Would make a great last minute Father's day gift.
Thanks
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Sam Hillborne Frameset - Walnut Creek

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That's a great bike frame, maybe better than the one that I most 
regrettably sold, in that it's got an actual pump peg rather than the pump 
nub mine had. Definitely born in Wisconsin as all of the 64's were. Helluva 
bike for a heckufa deal. Deeter, pick it up for a spare...
Too far up the road
-Kai

On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 5:57:54 PM UTC-4 JP wrote:

> My brother bought a 62cm atlantis and cannibalized this.I believe it's 
> MUSA 
>
> Face to face sell at 1600 S Main St Complex Walnut Creek 94596 
>
> Asking $750
>
> thanks!
>
> [image: IMG_2488.jpeg]

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Re: [RBW] FS: RAMBOUILLET (56CM) GREEN LATE PRODUCTION

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

$7,200, but you cover shipping, tack on another 4 large if it's an Alex 
Special.
But in all seriousness, hope to see this bike cruising the Hudson soon...
-Kai

On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 10:39:24 PM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not cool to make a higher offer. 
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 3:40:58 PM UTC-4 Bruce Baker wrote:
>
>> Gerarard,
>> If not sold I want to buy it and my offer is $1150.00 and I will pay for 
>> shipping...
>> Bruce
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:15 PM Gerard Gunhouse  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>- NEW IN THE BOX HAS NEVER BEEN BUILT UP INTO A COMPLETE BIKE
>>>- SHIMANO BOTTOM BRACKET UN55 (113)
>>>- INCLUDES NEW STRONGLIGHT DELTA HEADSET
>>>- HONJO FENDER SET (NEW)
>>>- SERIAL# RB1100
>>>- 1100.00 PLUS ACTUAL S/H CHARGES 
>>>- PROFESSIONALLY PACKED
>>>- SEE PICTURES IN FLICKR ATTACHMENT
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/143721512@N07/albums/72157719408393298
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Regrets

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

This 64cm Sam Hillborne- https://photos.app.goo.gl/oe7AdWXzUKB8NF8dA
but it's in a good home.
I popped the seatstay top braze off and had the joy of talking with Richard 
Schwinn about fixing it better than new, which he did for free. Once I had 
it back I was busy riding a Quickbeam and a Clem H, and felt weird about it 
having broken for some crazy reason, and sold it for a song...
-Kai

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:56:06 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> In my seemingly endless search to optimize my bike collection, fill gaps, 
> and try new and cool bikes, I recently realized how many bikes I've had in 
> my life and how many questionable decisions I've made. There are a number 
> of choices I've made, for better or worse, to sell bikes in order to make 
> room for other bikes, downsize, or simply because I felt they weren't 
> getting the use they deserved.
>
> My question to the group is: what bike or bikes do you most regret 
> selling, trading, or giving away?  
>
> For me, as you may know, I absolutely regret selling my Roadini, and an 
> old Marinoni touring bike that I originally thought was too big for me (I 
> realize now how wrong I was, and am currently in the process of replacing 
> it!).
>
> Would love to hear what regrets others here have!
>
> <3
> Damien
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 68cm Creamsicle Orange Rivendell Rambouillet F/F/HS/Brakes

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Bump for the talls who have the liquidity to move this out of my view... 
(beautiful bike, bumps and all)
-Kai

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 11:05:27 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thinking about putting my 68 orange Ram frameset up for sale. I've owned 
> this since around 2014 and having a hard time moving it on but so it goes.
>
> Listing it as a F/F/HS along with a set of Tektro R539 brakes.
>
> 66cm C-C seat tube
> 62cm C-C top tube
> Fits a 700x35c tire comfortably
>
> It's in overall decent condition with plenty of wear and tear. Most 
> notably, it has a minor ripple in the top tube where something bumped it 
> and some damage to the seat cluster as well (all prior to my ownership). 
> It's visible but nothing serious. Also has some chainsuck wear and scrapes 
> near the BB. The original Ultegra 6500 headset is in good shape and the 
> brakes show some rust on the springs and they need new pads.
>
> Pics here: Google Link 
> 
>
> Thinking USD$700 plus shipping within North America. Probably via 
> BikeFlights but I don't know exactly how much it would cost. I have some 
> bike boxes and I'm happy to box it up myself.
>
> Send me a PM if you are interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Kieran
> Victoria, BC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Inverted anything is good! What's really up anyhows? 
Love to all the path racers
-Kai

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 11:36:47 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Inverted Billie Bars are the best bar. Have been able to put 200ish-kms on 
> my new 57cm Appa thanks to some finally good weather. This is my best 
> fitting, best riding Riv so far. I think that about every Riv whenever I 
> ride them but this time there is something EVEN MORE special going on. So 
> happy with how this whole build has come together.
>
> [image: DSC_0949.JPG]
>
> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 09:30:44 UTC+8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> Clem 65 with some billy bars and a super cool stem I picked up in 
>> beautiful Brooklyn. Frame was hanging around for awhile while I've been 
>> stuck deep in Roscoville. Fun for cobble shredding...
>> -Kai
>> [image: IMG-3026.jpg] 
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS- 2003 Riv Custom- Curt Goodrich- yes, Patrick Moores'.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

On topic- Riv makes bikes for every person in that photograph!, and that's 
mostly why I love Rivendell...
-Kai

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:05:13 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Sorry, off topic I know, but I can't resist. I'm hardly anti-white; my 
> father was so WASP that people thought he was old British military.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:51 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> One more addendum, regarding frame sizing. I am 5'10" but with an Asian 
>> build; if my torso were combined with Anglo legs, I'd be over 6' tall. My 
>> arms like my legs are shorter than the average Anglo's of my height.
>>
>> The exact right road bike size for me in level top tube frames is 60 X 56 
>> or 57 c-c; this Curt frame matches that with a (3*?) upsloping tt. 
>>
>> Talking (and Singing) of the Nordic Man by Hilaire Belloc
>> I
>>
>> Behold, my child, the Nordic man,
>> And be as like him, as you can;
>> His legs are long, his mind is slow,
>> His hair is lank and made of tow.
>>
>> II
>>
>> And here we have the Alpine Race:
>> Oh! What a broad and foolish face!
>> His skin is of a dirty yellow.
>> He is a most unpleasant fellow.
>>
>> III
>>
>> The most degraded of them all
>> Mediterranean we call.
>> His hair is crisp, and even curls,
>> And he is saucy with the girls.
>> [Note: Belloc is mocking very popular and very common late 19th or very 
>> early 20th century neo-Darwinist eugenic ideologies of racial superiority.]
>>
>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:36 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Note: Primer on bottom front of rear dropouts is my doing. Chauncey 
>>> sourced extra-long dropouts from England, but I cut off 1/4" from the 
>>> bottom forward ends to ease axle entry/egress, primered the metal, but 
>>> never got around to a finish coat. For ss use the remaining slots will 
>>> accommodate at least 4 teeth if not 5, assuming that your small cog puts 
>>> the axle close to the end of the dropouts.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:31 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 I'm sorry Tom didn't in the end like the Curt as well as I eventually 
 ended up liking the Monocog he sent me in trade.

 Note that the level tt effective length is 57 or perhaps 56.5. Also, 
 the Matthews replacement fork (made for Matthews 2:1) will accommodate 42 
 mm tires, and perhaps a bit wider, but won't accommodate 42s and fenders 
 as 
 it was supposed to do.

 The powdercoat is really first rate and worthy to replace the Joe Bell 
 original paint.

 Integrated f and rear racks and internal light wiring.

 I would *not* set up Kojaks tubeless. I did that briefly but it was 
 only air pressure holding the beads to the rims. But Kojaks ride well with 
 tubes; they were my tire of choice after I decided that 26 X 1.25 Paselas 
 just flatted too often (tho' Orange Seal regular formula in the Paselas' 
 tubes will solve most puncture problems). Note taht at least with the 
 Matthews fork and just possibly with the original fork you can use the 
 superlative 42 mm RH Naches Pass. And of course you can without any 
 restrictions at all use the also superlative 28 mm Elk Pass, with fenders.

 Curt Goodrich's workmanship is stellar, and the modifications by Dave 
 Porter and Chauncey Matthews are well done, too.

 On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:02 PM Tom Palmer  
 wrote:

> Hi all,
> I traded Patricks' current Monocog for this custom frame, forks, racks 
> and fenders. It took a while to get built and after riding, it is just 
> too 
> big. My plans were for a touring bike since the custom racks are 
> wonderful- 
> stiff and light. Patrick had it fixed gear and I have fixed gears and 
> single speeds, but with touring in mind, I geared it with a not too 
> hideous 
> claw mount and Suntour derailler. the frame is 57cm CtoC seat tube and 
> 56cm 
> CtoC top tube. I am unsure of the frame angles. A lot of info on this 
> frame 
> can be found by searching to archives for "03 Curt". Comes with 2 forks- 
> original for caliper brakes and custom Patrick had made with cantilevers  
> or V brakes. nitto Technomic stem and Noodle Bars with Cane creek levers. 
> Suntour  power ratchet stem shifters shifting rear only- never had front 
> derailler. I rarely shift the front and would kick down to smaller ring 
> with foot if needed. I think grant calls it the stick method.  Triple 
> front 
> crankset, Sugino XD with 50,42, 30 rings. I rode it in the 42 and never 
> needed a lower gear. I did not ride it a ton, being too stretched out but 
> tried it over a few different routes, one with a lot of hills. Rides good 
> loaded, the racks are great. The rear cluster is 7 speed, fairly wide, 
> 13-32 I believe. brakes are Tektro 559 front and Shimano 600 rear. 
> Hammered 
> fender installed on rear now, with cutout 

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking VO Mojave bottle cage

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The larger Kleen Kanteens, insulated and non, fit perfectly in the mojave 
cage, in case you were still shopping for options. Mojave cages rule.
-Kai


On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 11:10:28 AM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> Well I wanted the Mojave for my son’s bike-to-school commuter bike because 
> he carries a 32oz “Manna” insulated bottle (from Costco), but it turns out 
> to be narrower than other 32oz bottles (according to the Mojave fit chart) 
> at 2.75” diameter. 
> I was trying to avoid a bottle carrier that’s easily stolen such as a 
> handlebar bag, and also trying to avoid him using a strap of some sort with 
> the bottle because frankly—he won’t. But in the end I think the handlebar 
> bag might be my best option and I will seek to secure it with at least one 
> metal zip just to make it hard to steal quickly. 
>
> On Jun 5, 2021, at 07:14, Pat Smith  wrote:
>
> According to the VO newsletter I just got yesterday they should be back 
> in stock now
>
>
> Pat inDC
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 1:31:16 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a Mojave bottle cage for sale? Or similar bottle cage 
>> capable of holding a 32 ounce bottle? Needs to be able to be affixed to 
>> standard water bottle mounts. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>
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[RBW] WTT- my Billie bars for your wide short and shallow drop bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Your drops, the type popularized by Ronnie Romance and the crust crew, for 
my Billie bars, popularized by the pride of the silver state, Leah Roadie 
Crusher.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sfnt28nunsfaLya48
Thanks
-Kai 

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[RBW] Re: WTT- my Billie bars for your wide short and shallow drop bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

backward to forward

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 12:24:53 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

>
> Nevada's got a lot to love, as do these bars, but I kept gravitating 
> forward and to the center of these bars because I couldn't get them quite 
> as forward as I wanted, so the wonderful width was lost on me. Nobody's 
> come forward with my dream drops, so I'm inching closer to selling and 
> setting up my albastaches again.
> -Kai 
> Valley High (Vegas), class of '91, (Sammy Davis Jr. penned our fight 
> song!) 
> On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 11:20:26 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Kai, 
>>
>> You’re hilarious! I died. I’m not writing this. This is my ghost. 藍藍I 
>> got passed by a roadie 3 days ago on my own Killer Hill, full confession.
>>
>> Someone trade this man some drops and get his Billie Bars on your bike. 
>> If you have one of Rivendell’s new philosophy long bikes, you’ll love this 
>> bar.
>>
>> “Pride of the Silver State” I can’t. I’m dead again. 
>> Leah 
>>
>> On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Your drops, the type popularized by Ronnie Romance and the crust crew, 
>>> for my Billie bars, popularized by the pride of the silver state, Leah 
>>> Roadie Crusher.
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sfnt28nunsfaLya48
>>> Thanks
>>> -Kai 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTT- my Billie bars for your wide short and shallow drop bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Nevada's got a lot to love, as do these bars, but I kept gravitating 
forward and to the center of these bars because I couldn't get them quite 
as forward as I wanted, so the wonderful width was lost on me. Nobody's 
come forward with my dream drops, so I'm inching closer to selling and 
setting up my albastaches again.
-Kai 
Valley High (Vegas), class of '91, (Sammy Davis Jr. penned our fight song!) 
On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 11:20:26 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Kai, 
>
> You’re hilarious! I died. I’m not writing this. This is my ghost. 藍藍I 
> got passed by a roadie 3 days ago on my own Killer Hill, full confession.
>
> Someone trade this man some drops and get his Billie Bars on your bike. If 
> you have one of Rivendell’s new philosophy long bikes, you’ll love this bar.
>
> “Pride of the Silver State” I can’t. I’m dead again. 
> Leah 
>
> On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Your drops, the type popularized by Ronnie Romance and the crust crew, 
>> for my Billie bars, popularized by the pride of the silver state, Leah 
>> Roadie Crusher.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sfnt28nunsfaLya48
>> Thanks
>> -Kai 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Water Bottle and Cage Talk

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

And I specifically avoid insulated water bottles because someone convinced 
me once that cold water, particularly on a hot day, is a shock to the 
system. Can anyone confirm or deny?
-Kai

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:03:39 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Because running low on water stinks, I use a 48oz nalgene bottle in my 
> Mojave cage with a 32oz backup in the summer or on a longer ride. Works 
> well in my large triangles, maybe less so on smaller frames. The larger 
> bottle also provides a little more space to blame for the weight of my 
> bikes. 
> Fact is, every $375 spent on titanium hardware gets you an extra oz of 
> balanced h2o capacity. 
> Currently at zero titanium, and coffee goes in the insulated Kleen Kanteen 
> in the bag, 32oz giving me two large coffees at work (c.r.e.a.m. lives in 
> the work fridge)
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:20:44 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I've always used standard size bottle cages and uninsulated bottles. But, 
>> I'm intrigued by the Velo Orange Mojave large cage that holds their 32 oz 
>> Nalgene and 32 oz insulated Klean Kanteen bottles. On long rides I will 
>> take two 20 oz bottles but usually have some left so one 32 might do for 
>> longish rides (30 miles or so). I'm looking for others' bottle setups and 
>> opinions.
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Water Bottle and Cage Talk

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Because running low on water stinks, I use a 48oz nalgene bottle in my 
Mojave cage with a 32oz backup in the summer or on a longer ride. Works 
well in my large triangles, maybe less so on smaller frames. The larger 
bottle also provides a little more space to blame for the weight of my 
bikes. 
Fact is, every $375 spent on titanium hardware gets you an extra oz of 
balanced h2o capacity. 
Currently at zero titanium, and coffee goes in the insulated Kleen Kanteen 
in the bag, 32oz giving me two large coffees at work (c.r.e.a.m. lives in 
the work fridge)
-Kai

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:20:44 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I've always used standard size bottle cages and uninsulated bottles. But, 
> I'm intrigued by the Velo Orange Mojave large cage that holds their 32 oz 
> Nalgene and 32 oz insulated Klean Kanteen bottles. On long rides I will 
> take two 20 oz bottles but usually have some left so one 32 might do for 
> longish rides (30 miles or so). I'm looking for others' bottle setups and 
> opinions.
> Thanks,
> Doug
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The Eighth Hour Bicycle Boutique in Brooklyn. It's brand new, just opened 
on the stoner new year. It's run by the swell fella in the photo. Check 
them out- @eighthhourstudio 
-Kai


On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 2:15:47 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Wow, Kai, where was this? How exciting!
>
> Yes, Bones, great bike and tell us how your wife reacted when you 
> surprised her with it.
>
> Tom - this is your first Rivendell, yes? How soon can you build it and 
> tell us all about it?
>
> I love this thread. It makes me happy every single day.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> Not my bike, not his bike, but a fine bike.
> and check out that Cherubim out back!! 
> If this is your bike, I made him show me and pose with it...
> -Kai
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 6:32:59 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be your 
>> turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or so the 
>> Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and how each 
>> one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas present? 
>> Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. What do you have 
>> in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
>>
>> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
>> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
>> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
>>
>> Happy New Year!
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: bolt size on Nitto 32f mini front rack

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I'm a little confused and curious, having never seen a 6mm threaded hole on 
the front of a fork crown, but assuming the fork's not built of something 
other than metal, wouldn't it be so easy and satisfying to drill out the 
threading and continue out of the back of the fork, enabling "normal" use 
of that threaded mount? That way it would be easy to install, and easy to 
remove when you want to sell it.
-Kai


On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:

> Ah. good point. This is a problem I hadn't thought through. Im not opposed 
> to cutting, but being a perpetual rack switcher makes me think ill likely 
> sell it, and a chopped off bolt wont make it too desirable. 
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:50:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Drew 
>>
>> I'm 98% sure that the bolt on the Nitto 32F is M6 x 1.0mm, which is 
>> standard for virtually all M6 threads on bicycles, including cantilever 
>> bosses, the larger rack bosses on some Rivs, seat bolts on Rivs, lots of 
>> other things...
>>
>> Now, if you have a threaded M6 x 1.0mm hole in the front face of your 
>> fork crown, then in principle you could thread that rack bolt into that 
>> hole.  At the moment you get it started, the rack will be out in front of 
>> the fork about 1-1/2" too far out in front.  As you thread it in the rack 
>> will get closer to the fork.  When the existing threads run out the rack 
>> will still be sitting about an inch too far forward.  Then what?  Will you 
>> just bend everything as much as you need to bend things to get the rack 
>> legs to reach the fork?  I think you would end up with something really 
>> badly bent and contorted, won't be anywhere close to level, will have the 
>> tombstone way farther away from the fork as ideal, and won't be 'tight' 
>> threaded in that hole.  You could handle the 'tightness' problem by backing 
>> out the rack a few turns and leaving room for a locknut.  That would solve 
>> one of three problems and make the other two worse.
>>
>> Alternatively you could maybe get into the thread cutting game and try to 
>> thread the rack bolt much further down its length.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:11:01 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone confirm the size/threading of the bolt that goes into the 
>>> fork crown on the nitto 32f? 
>>>
>>> I have a fork with a hole tapped for M6 on the front end, but no hole on 
>>> the back, so I'd need to thread it directly into that hole
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Drew
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] bolt size on Nitto 32f mini front rack

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That's certainly the case, but why? The only thing I can think that'd be 
good for is a light mount, and two holes is as better for a light mount as 
it is for everything else I can imagine, so I'm left wondering. 
-Kai
A note for Drew, in case you do decide to drill that out, best to use a 
centering punch that fits inside the threads so you can start with a 
smaller drill bit and go bigger until you hit that sweet spot where you're 
clearing out the threads up front and making the final pass out the back 
with the rack then sliding through effortlessly. With oil of course, and a 
wee bit of abandon.


On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 10:58:23 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> A fork crown intended for use on a fork with brazed-on brake mounts 
> (cantis or centerpulls) might be made differently, since the hole in the 
> crown doesn’t need to accommodate a through bolt.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On May 3, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> ide note/ask, why do some crowns come with a threaded hole on one side?
>
>
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[RBW] Re: bolt size on Nitto 32f mini front rack

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Definitely go through the front because that's going to be your guide for 
the back, and those threads are messing everything up, so they need to get 
messed up!, as in, erased. Just enough gone to allow the rack's bolt 
through without bother. 
-Kai
Side note/ask, why do some crowns come with a threaded hole on one side? 
That can't be a good way to attach a brake, right? The strength of a 
caliper brake mount comes from the throughboltedness of it, yes? Losing 
3/4" worth of bolt on a brake mount would not be a good way to shed 
precious grams, so why? Dedicated light mount?

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 6:53:13 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:

> The thought crossed my mind. Ive never drilled through expensive steel 
> before. I assume you'd go from the front? how do you not mess up those 
> threads?
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 3:10:38 PM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> I'm a little confused and curious, having never seen a 6mm threaded hole 
>> on the front of a fork crown, but assuming the fork's not built of 
>> something other than metal, wouldn't it be so easy and satisfying to drill 
>> out the threading and continue out of the back of the fork, enabling 
>> "normal" use of that threaded mount? That way it would be easy to install, 
>> and easy to remove when you want to sell it.
>> -Kai
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 5:56:01 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> Ah. good point. This is a problem I hadn't thought through. Im not 
>>> opposed to cutting, but being a perpetual rack switcher makes me think ill 
>>> likely sell it, and a chopped off bolt wont make it too desirable. 
>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:50:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> Drew 
>>>>
>>>> I'm 98% sure that the bolt on the Nitto 32F is M6 x 1.0mm, which is 
>>>> standard for virtually all M6 threads on bicycles, including cantilever 
>>>> bosses, the larger rack bosses on some Rivs, seat bolts on Rivs, lots of 
>>>> other things...
>>>>
>>>> Now, if you have a threaded M6 x 1.0mm hole in the front face of your 
>>>> fork crown, then in principle you could thread that rack bolt into that 
>>>> hole.  At the moment you get it started, the rack will be out in front of 
>>>> the fork about 1-1/2" too far out in front.  As you thread it in the rack 
>>>> will get closer to the fork.  When the existing threads run out the rack 
>>>> will still be sitting about an inch too far forward.  Then what?  Will you 
>>>> just bend everything as much as you need to bend things to get the rack 
>>>> legs to reach the fork?  I think you would end up with something really 
>>>> badly bent and contorted, won't be anywhere close to level, will have the 
>>>> tombstone way farther away from the fork as ideal, and won't be 'tight' 
>>>> threaded in that hole.  You could handle the 'tightness' problem by 
>>>> backing 
>>>> out the rack a few turns and leaving room for a locknut.  That would solve 
>>>> one of three problems and make the other two worse.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you could maybe get into the thread cutting game and try 
>>>> to thread the rack bolt much further down its length.  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:11:01 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can someone confirm the size/threading of the bolt that goes into the 
>>>>> fork crown on the nitto 32f? 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a fork with a hole tapped for M6 on the front end, but no hole 
>>>>> on the back, so I'd need to thread it directly into that hole
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Drew
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://www.atlantamagazine.com/news-culture-articles/the-joy-of-pedaling-cross-country-even-in-your-80s/

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:27:32 PM UTC-4 Irv Hoffman wrote:

> Thought someone might be interested in this story which appears in the 
> current *Atlanta* magazine.
> All my rides were on a Romulus except my recent ride from ATL to Key West 
> and back which was on a new Appaloosa. All were self contained with full 
> loads. 
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[RBW] Re: Clem H sizing, availability

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

With the sloping toptube, the 65 rides HUGE. I'm at 100PBH or so, and I've 
not a ton of clearance with 60mm tires.
And you're right, you should get the low, you won't regret it. Not sure the 
H in 65 will ever be made again, or the L...
-Kai

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:28:41 PM UTC-4 Kevin wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I am semi in the market for a Clem H and am looking for some first person 
> thoughts on fit. I worry I am in between the 59 and the massive 65. Can 
> anybody who has ridden either or both of those chime in with their 
> measurements and how the bikes felt? I think the proper solution to this 
> problem is to just get the 64 L but I am just not sympatico with the 
> aesthetics there.
>
> I'm about a 95-96 PBH and ride a 62 Sam pretty comfortably with drops, 
> would prefer more reach every time I've set it up with flats.
>
> Also, the bike seems to have been excised from the models section of Riv's 
> site. Anyone know if they are planning on only offering the step through 
> model moving forward?
>
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem H sizing, availability

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Andrew! They're rusting pretty good, even after a clear coat of 
Penetrol, but strong and regularly carrying 70lb grocery loads on the lower 
front.
And Coal Bee Rye Anne, there's 12 in the world. I thought there was 6 and I 
might've spread that rumor, but a recent post of Will's cleared it up. And 
thanks to Ryan, I've got 2 (A SIXTH OF THE WORLDS SUPPLY) and I can 
sleep at night because of it. I got run down by an illegal turner that left 
me flustered and mostly fearful for the fate of the frame, which was fine, 
but it put the fear in me.
-Kai
On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 8:48:02 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Kai- 
> That is some truly glorious rack and basket work on your Bubbe! Bravo!
> Is it new (hence no rust) or does it have some sort of clearcoat on it?
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 10:38:59 AM UTC+10 Abcyclehank wrote:
>
>> I heard some people like the jumbo mountain mixte Rosco so much they have 
>> more than one in their fleet 樂   .
>> Wish I had been that smart...
>>
>> Ryan Hankinson
>> West Michigan
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:29:55 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the answer to everything- search the world for one of these (the 
>>> precious, the Rosco Bubbe) and be forever happy- 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9  
>>> Doesn't look as steppy throughy as the Clem L, but still gives some 
>>> room, and (risking offense to my fellow Clem 65 owners, sorry folks) rides 
>>> better than the Clems.
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:15:26 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am another 65cm H owner... with approx 97-ish pbh, 6'5" height.  My 
>>>> seatpost and bar height are extended nearly the same as in Julian's pic 
>>>> except I'm using a vintage B72 saddle which is not as tall has his sprung 
>>>> saddle (flyer/conquest?) which likely accounts for some overall saddle 
>>>> height difference I expect we'd have.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you certainly fall between sizes of 59 and 65H... I forget 
>>>> the specific min/max but recall I was right near the minimum recommended 
>>>> pbh for the 65H.  I almost went with a 59 with the initial Clem release 
>>>> (and was really tempted when the first 59 prototype became a webspecial) 
>>>> but hesitated having always been stuck with too small off the shelf bikes 
>>>> and knew I wanted a more upright and comfortable sized bike for my casual 
>>>> local riding (mixed pavement/gravel/multiuse trails.)  I have very little 
>>>> standover clearance with the 65 but once I'm in the saddle I'm perfectly 
>>>> content and couldn't imagine wanting to go smaller.  I've swapped from 
>>>> 55cm 
>>>> Bosco to Jones Loop(660mm 2.5 Riser) to ChocoMoose like Julian shows and 
>>>> now have a regular Bullmoose installed. However, if I did a little more 
>>>> rough stuff or off-road riding I think I'd actually prefer a 59cm for 
>>>> slightly easier mounting/dismounting and a more aggressive bar position 
>>>> using my Jones or Bullmoose bars. 
>>>>
>>>> I also thought it was mentioned they'd at least never do the 65cm H 
>>>> again but don't recall where/when specifically.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Brian Cole
>>>> Lawrence NJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:34:46 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a 101 pbh and ride a 65 Clem (pic attached).  I really like it, 
>>>>> but if my pbh were 5-6 cm smaller I think it would be an issue -- esp. if 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> was not using it primarily as a town bike as you see it set up here. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the 65 is history. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm with Kai -- get the L.   I've been seriously tempted to do so 
>>>>> myself. It is also a unicorn of sorts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Julian Westerhout
>>>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:28:41 PM UTC-5 Kevin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am semi in the market for a Clem H and am looking for some first 
>>>>>> person thoughts on fit. I worry I am in between the 59 and the massive 
>>>>>> 65. 
>>>>&g

[RBW] Re: Clem H sizing, availability

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Here's the answer to everything- search the world for one of these (the 
precious, the Rosco Bubbe) and be forever 
happy- https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9  
Doesn't look as steppy throughy as the Clem L, but still gives some room, 
and (risking offense to my fellow Clem 65 owners, sorry folks) rides better 
than the Clems.
-Kai

On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:15:26 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I am another 65cm H owner... with approx 97-ish pbh, 6'5" height.  My 
> seatpost and bar height are extended nearly the same as in Julian's pic 
> except I'm using a vintage B72 saddle which is not as tall has his sprung 
> saddle (flyer/conquest?) which likely accounts for some overall saddle 
> height difference I expect we'd have.
>
> Sounds like you certainly fall between sizes of 59 and 65H... I forget the 
> specific min/max but recall I was right near the minimum recommended pbh 
> for the 65H.  I almost went with a 59 with the initial Clem release (and 
> was really tempted when the first 59 prototype became a webspecial) but 
> hesitated having always been stuck with too small off the shelf bikes and 
> knew I wanted a more upright and comfortable sized bike for my casual local 
> riding (mixed pavement/gravel/multiuse trails.)  I have very little 
> standover clearance with the 65 but once I'm in the saddle I'm perfectly 
> content and couldn't imagine wanting to go smaller.  I've swapped from 55cm 
> Bosco to Jones Loop(660mm 2.5 Riser) to ChocoMoose like Julian shows and 
> now have a regular Bullmoose installed. However, if I did a little more 
> rough stuff or off-road riding I think I'd actually prefer a 59cm for 
> slightly easier mounting/dismounting and a more aggressive bar position 
> using my Jones or Bullmoose bars. 
>
> I also thought it was mentioned they'd at least never do the 65cm H again 
> but don't recall where/when specifically.
>
> Best,
> Brian Cole
> Lawrence NJ
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:34:46 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a 101 pbh and ride a 65 Clem (pic attached).  I really like it, 
>> but if my pbh were 5-6 cm smaller I think it would be an issue -- esp. if I 
>> was not using it primarily as a town bike as you see it set up here. 
>>
>> I think the 65 is history. 
>>
>> I'm with Kai -- get the L.   I've been seriously tempted to do so myself. 
>> It is also a unicorn of sorts
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:28:41 PM UTC-5 Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I am semi in the market for a Clem H and am looking for some first 
>>> person thoughts on fit. I worry I am in between the 59 and the massive 65. 
>>> Can anybody who has ridden either or both of those chime in with their 
>>> measurements and how the bikes felt? I think the proper solution to this 
>>> problem is to just get the 64 L but I am just not sympatico with the 
>>> aesthetics there.
>>>
>>> I'm about a 95-96 PBH and ride a 62 Sam pretty comfortably with drops, 
>>> would prefer more reach every time I've set it up with flats.
>>>
>>> Also, the bike seems to have been excised from the models section of 
>>> Riv's site. Anyone know if they are planning on only offering the step 
>>> through model moving forward?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Spring Break MTB Ride on a Susie

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Wicked bike handling!
-Kai

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 1:27:21 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Not my video, but I don't think Tin is on here so I'm sharing on his 
> behalf. Fun video from this past Sunday's mostly singletrack ride in 
> Connecticut on his new Susie. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-03-25 at 1.23.32 PM.png]
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFM2o5Hl584
>
> More pics of his set up here:  https://www.instagram.com/elevator_to_hell/
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Loose headset? Something more sinister?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Which shop got that brake housing all bunched up on the front (ripples of 
plastic piling out of the noodle)? They might be in a rush...
-Kai

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 2:54:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Clarifying my response about REI, It's in response to concerns about the 
> ano finish on her headset. I'm sure REI would be careful, too, I just know 
> the other shop knows those bikes well and are meticulous about them. 
>
>
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Agreed, there's almost certainly nothing to worry about here Leah, simple 
>> adjustment. Don't dis REI too much, my local branch has an excellent bike 
>> mechanic who is always thrilled to work on something other than store bike 
>> assembly.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>> If it turns out to be the headset (which is my bet), then like Joe said, 
>>> it's a thing that happens sometimes with new builds. I just wanted to add 
>>> that it's unlikely that anything is damaged after a short ride with it just 
>>> a bit loose. Def important to get it fixed ASAP, but I think there's no 
>>> need to hyperventilating over whether you damaged your steer tube. :)
>>>
>>> I had Riv install the headset/fork on my Bubbe and still had to get the 
>>> local shop to tighten it up after the first few rides.
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 12:09:19 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 "Maul the color."

 I suppose it's always possible but the job had already been done once 
 and nothing bad happened so it should be fine. The wrenches they'll use 
 are 
 good stuff that fit on the flats of the cups well. 

 What will happen is that bottom cup right on the headtube will be 
 turned a bit to snug it down, then he'll hold that one steady while he 
 slowly turns the top one to secure the adjustment in place. It's easy to 
 get wrong on the first try, I usually end up with mine too loose, too. 
 They'll fix it for ya. 

 On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 9:55:16 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> The stem is moving down by the headset. I put the brakes on and it’s 
> not so noticeable, but if I lift it by the handlebars I can see and feel 
> that stem move. The bolts at the stem are tight and max insertion is 
> inside 
> the tube, so that’s not the problem. I don’t know much about headsets, 
> but 
> I bet this is the source.
>
> Next question: do you think REI is going to maul the color of my new 
> ano parts with their wrenches?!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>
> If you hold your front brake on and rock the bike back and forth you 
> should be able to see if the headset is loose or the stem is loose. The 
> stem is tightened with the bolt in the center, you can do that yourself, 
> just make sure the max height/minimum insertion line is below the 
> headset. 
>
> If it’s the headset, you should take it to a shop. REI should be able 
> to handle that just fine. 
> You need two headset wrenches, one for the top nut and one for the nut 
> below the spacers. 
> I adjust my headset play and hold the lower nut while tightening the 
> top nut against the spacers. It takes a bit of experience to do this 
> confidently. 
> It needs to be tight enough to prevent play but not so tight that it 
> binds. 
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Ray
>
> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 9:13:17 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Here is the headset. 
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I got anodized headset rings/spacers (and I may be botching the 
>> names here, but I’ll include a photo in the post after this and you’ll 
>> see) 
>> and had them installed. I felt that the bike was a little vibratory but 
>> it 
>> wasn’t until tonight that I found the source. I happened to lift the 
>> front 
>> end by the bars and felt the bars shift somehow. I had a hex key and 
>> checked both bolts in the stem - they were tight. I got home, looked it 
>> over and found that the stem is moving around in the headset. It did NOT 
>> do 
>> this when I had the old headset. 
>>
>>
>> I went online and read horror stories. I stopped reading when my 
>> heart started racing. Something about wrecking the steerer, which 
>> sounded 
>> catastrophic and permanent whatever that is. Is this a minor problem 
>> that 
>> can be fixed with a wrench, would you guess? Or am I going to need to 
>> change out my headset - maybe this one is too big? Ugh, please not that. 
>>
>> I will either have to drive 40 

Re: [RBW] Loose headset? Something more sinister?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Yeah, I'm feeling for the REI folks. I think there's no huge deal here, it 
seems the housing has settled itself, the metal portion's likely found its 
way to the bottom by now. I assume Peter's concern is that the bike shop 
didn't see that the housing was fully housed itself. As for catastrophic 
issues, before it bunched like that it wasn't seated in the noodle. If it 
wasn't seated and you needed to stop quick with a strong squeeze of the 
brakes, that strong squeeze would go towards seating the housing and not 
towards stopping the bike. So yeah, possibly bad stuff. I imagine this 
happened slowly and you kept tightening at the lever to compensate for what 
you took as cable stretching? Good thing you're a careful and thoughtful 
rider who rarely needs to panic stop... 
As for that headset, get them to snug it up and you'll be made in the shade 
(at least what little shade Vegas has to offer). 
And regarding trust and bike shops, it's always a crap shoot. You're your 
best mechanic even if you're not the best mechanic. Try and try again, 
you're smart and enthusiastic, you'll be fine. 

Tighten it, loosen it, spin it, break it. Failure's taught me a lot of what 
I need to know 
-Kai

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 3:21:42 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Kai, the famous and wonderful Peter White caught that, got me on the phone 
> and has me addressing it. Apparently this issue can be fairly 
> catastrophic... I’m at REI as I type this and I have a bad feeling though. 
> The mechanic seems to not see this as a big deal... I have the worst luck 
> at bike shops.
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> Which shop got that brake housing all bunched up on the front (ripples of 
> plastic piling out of the noodle)? They might be in a rush...
>
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 2:54:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Clarifying my response about REI, It's in response to concerns about the 
>> ano finish on her headset. I'm sure REI would be careful, too, I just know 
>> the other shop knows those bikes well and are meticulous about them. 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed, there's almost certainly nothing to worry about here Leah, 
>>> simple adjustment. Don't dis REI too much, my local branch has an excellent 
>>> bike mechanic who is always thrilled to work on something other than store 
>>> bike assembly.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leah,
>>>> If it turns out to be the headset (which is my bet), then like Joe 
>>>> said, it's a thing that happens sometimes with new builds. I just wanted 
>>>> to 
>>>> add that it's unlikely that anything is damaged after a short ride with it 
>>>> just a bit loose. Def important to get it fixed ASAP, but I think there's 
>>>> no need to hyperventilating over whether you damaged your steer tube. :)
>>>>
>>>> I had Riv install the headset/fork on my Bubbe and still had to get the 
>>>> local shop to tighten it up after the first few rides.
>>>>
>>>> Paul in AR
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 12:09:19 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Maul the color."
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose it's always possible but the job had already been done once 
>>>>> and nothing bad happened so it should be fine. The wrenches they'll use 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> good stuff that fit on the flats of the cups well. 
>>>>>
>>>>> What will happen is that bottom cup right on the headtube will be 
>>>>> turned a bit to snug it down, then he'll hold that one steady while he 
>>>>> slowly turns the top one to secure the adjustment in place. It's easy to 
>>>>> get wrong on the first try, I usually end up with mine too loose, too. 
>>>>> They'll fix it for ya. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 9:55:16 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The stem is moving down by the headset. I put the brakes on and it’s 
>>>>>> not so noticeable, but if I lift it by the handlebars I can see and feel 
>>>>>> that stem move. The bolts at the stem are tight and max insertion is 
>>>>>> inside 
>>>>>> the tube, so that’s not the problem. I don’t know much about headsets, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Loose headset? Something more sinister?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hurrah!! (saw your new message of joy after I sent that last message of not 
as much joy)
-Kai

On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 6:10:25 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I got it handled! The headset nut (or whatever) needed 1/8th of a turn and 
> then it all snugged up nicely. Got the brake cable/housing sorted out, too. 
> The anodizing was unhurt in the process. Relief! I know it’s not rational 
> but I am extra attached to this bike and I get anxiety when things are 
> wrong with it. 
>
> Thanks for all the help, you are the best!
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> Which shop got that brake housing all bunched up on the front (ripples of 
> plastic piling out of the noodle)? They might be in a rush...
>
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 2:54:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Clarifying my response about REI, It's in response to concerns about the 
>> ano finish on her headset. I'm sure REI would be careful, too, I just know 
>> the other shop knows those bikes well and are meticulous about them. 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed, there's almost certainly nothing to worry about here Leah, 
>>> simple adjustment. Don't dis REI too much, my local branch has an excellent 
>>> bike mechanic who is always thrilled to work on something other than store 
>>> bike assembly.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leah,
>>>> If it turns out to be the headset (which is my bet), then like Joe 
>>>> said, it's a thing that happens sometimes with new builds. I just wanted 
>>>> to 
>>>> add that it's unlikely that anything is damaged after a short ride with it 
>>>> just a bit loose. Def important to get it fixed ASAP, but I think there's 
>>>> no need to hyperventilating over whether you damaged your steer tube. :)
>>>>
>>>> I had Riv install the headset/fork on my Bubbe and still had to get the 
>>>> local shop to tighten it up after the first few rides.
>>>>
>>>> Paul in AR
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, March 14, 2021 at 12:09:19 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Maul the color."
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose it's always possible but the job had already been done once 
>>>>> and nothing bad happened so it should be fine. The wrenches they'll use 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> good stuff that fit on the flats of the cups well. 
>>>>>
>>>>> What will happen is that bottom cup right on the headtube will be 
>>>>> turned a bit to snug it down, then he'll hold that one steady while he 
>>>>> slowly turns the top one to secure the adjustment in place. It's easy to 
>>>>> get wrong on the first try, I usually end up with mine too loose, too. 
>>>>> They'll fix it for ya. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 9:55:16 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The stem is moving down by the headset. I put the brakes on and it’s 
>>>>>> not so noticeable, but if I lift it by the handlebars I can see and feel 
>>>>>> that stem move. The bolts at the stem are tight and max insertion is 
>>>>>> inside 
>>>>>> the tube, so that’s not the problem. I don’t know much about headsets, 
>>>>>> but 
>>>>>> I bet this is the source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next question: do you think REI is going to maul the color of my new 
>>>>>> ano parts with their wrenches?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you hold your front brake on and rock the bike back and forth you 
>>>>>> should be able to see if the headset is loose or the stem is loose. The 
>>>>>> stem is tightened with the bolt in the center, you can do that yourself, 
>>>>>> just make sure the max height/minimum insertion line is below the 
>>>>>> headset. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it’s the headset, you should take it to a shop. REI should be able 
>>>>>> to handle that just fine. 
>>>>>> You need tw

Re: [RBW] replace top tube to improve ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

As your framebuilder said, probably best left alone. But, as an amateur 
brazer, I'd solve the "problem" by cutting the tubes a bit less, leaving 
nubs to use as lugs for a tube with a outside diameter that matches the 
inside diameter of the existing toptube. This wouldn't get you down to 1', 
but it would be relatively easy and avoids welding the headtube with TIG 
level heat, just a little low temp silver filler. I'd love to hear why this 
might be a bad idea from those more knowledgeable.
-Kai 

On Sunday, March 21, 2021 at 11:33:29 AM UTC-4 Clark Fitzgerald wrote:

> I asked my local frame builder about this idea, and here's what he had to 
> say:
>
> This is not something I would recommend doing.  Since the frame is TIG 
> welded my concern would be the integrity of both the head tube and seat 
> tube after the top tube was removed and the weld remnants filed away.  TIG 
> welding concentrates a lot of heat at the weld area, which can affect the 
> tubes integrity and so putting it through another heat cycle by brzing in 
> another top tube is less than wise.  There are a lot of other options to 
> "liven" up the feeling of a bike.  Wheels and more importantly tires play a 
> huge role.
>
> I'm going to take his advice and leave the frame alone.
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 3:02 PM Clark Fitzgerald  
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever replaced a top tube on a steel bike to change the ride 
>> characteristics? Can you tell the difference on a bike with a flexible top 
>> tube? Could it make a difference on a bike with 2 inch wide tires?
>>
>> I've been reading Jan Heine's book All Road Bike Revolution 
>> ,
>>  
>> and the section on frame stiffness got me thinking about why my commuter 
>> bike, an XL 90's Specialized Hard Rock, feels kind of dead. I measured the 
>> top tube- it's 1.25 inches in diameter, larger than other bikes that I've 
>> had. I recall listening to Tom Ritchey praise flexible top tubes.
>>
>> I'm wondering if switching from a 1.25 inch to a 1 inch top tube 
>> 
>>  
>> will add some needed frame flex for me. I'm 165 lbs, and 99% of my riding 
>> on this bike is spinning in easy gears. I don't carry a rear load, and I 
>> don't use it for singletrack.
>>
>> Could this be a mostly DIY project? I would never consider doing it 
>> myself on a nice bike, but this ain't a nice bike. Cutting out the old 
>> tube, grinding down the old TIG welds, and mitering the new tube all seem 
>> doable, with patience. I would need a skilled welder to do the actual 
>> welding or brazing though. If it works OK I'd get it powder coated.
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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Bullmoose Loscos!? That's a thing? How did I miss that? And where? Just to 
be sure, are you possibly referring to the Chocomooses?
Thanks
-Kai

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 2:52:43 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I have the bullmoose Loscos on my Gus so the flex is actually comfortable 
> for me. And I do prefer the flare and width of the Losco over the Bosco 
> since I have wide shoulders. One nit though: I don't like how short the 
> grip area is relative to the Nittos.
>
> I have the Billies on my Homer with an 11cm stem and I also find them a 
> bit flexy when holding on the ends. Mostly an issue when standing up to 
> pedal: just need to remember to move my hands forward over the brake levers 
> before mashing the pedals. I can see how flex would be a problem if I 
> loaded up the bike.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>
>> I left him by the creek…. 
>> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked 
>> the upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it 
>> has Albatross handle bars. 
>> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they were 
>> flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>>
>> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
>> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
>> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars will 
>> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
>> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The reach 
>> is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper body 
>> straighter. 
>>
>> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions 
>> and if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 
>>
>> I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 
>>
>> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area and 
>> there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday for a 
>> month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 
>>
>> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
>> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
>> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>>
>> Cheers!
>
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[RBW] Re: I decided to ditch LOSCO

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Just found out about the ToscoMooses. Word is there'll be three widths of 
Toscos (Taiwan Boscos) available soon, maybe at anchor off the California 
coast! Hopefully some superwide mooses, that would be lovely.
-Kai

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 11:45:10 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Rofl, my bad I missed it not you. I meant *TOSCO*. Reading comprehension 
> fail on my part.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 7:59:09 AM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> Bullmoose Loscos!? That's a thing? How did I miss that? And where? Just 
>> to be sure, are you possibly referring to the Chocomooses?
>> Thanks
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 2:52:43 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> I have the bullmoose Loscos on my Gus so the flex is actually 
>>> comfortable for me. And I do prefer the flare and width of the Losco over 
>>> the Bosco since I have wide shoulders. One nit though: I don't like how 
>>> short the grip area is relative to the Nittos.
>>>
>>> I have the Billies on my Homer with an 11cm stem and I also find them a 
>>> bit flexy when holding on the ends. Mostly an issue when standing up to 
>>> pedal: just need to remember to move my hands forward over the brake levers 
>>> before mashing the pedals. I can see how flex would be a problem if I 
>>> loaded up the bike.
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 5:37:43 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>>>
>>>> I left him by the creek…. 
>>>> Actually, I put LOSCO bars on my Riv custom road frame. I really liked 
>>>> the upright position and the width of the bars. I also have a Joe A but it 
>>>> has Albatross handle bars. 
>>>> I found the LOSCO bars to be too flexible. I was never sure if they 
>>>> were flexing or slipping in the stem. It was a bit disconcerting. 
>>>>
>>>> I need to have my bars higher than I am used too. I ordered a new 60mm 
>>>> Nitto FacePlater stem and a Rene Herse Maes parallel handle bar. The clamp 
>>>> diameter is 31,8mm. The bigger diameter is a stiffer tube and the bars 
>>>> will 
>>>> not flex as much as 25.4 or 26mm bars would. 
>>>> I hope the bars will be an inch or two higher than the saddle. The 
>>>> reach is slightly shorter than I used before, and that help keeps my upper 
>>>> body straighter. 
>>>>
>>>> Traditional shaped bars have some advantages, like many hand positions 
>>>> and if you have them high enough one can use the drops for the headwinds. 
>>>>
>>>> I will post a photo when the parts get put on. 
>>>>
>>>> The folks here sure have beautiful bikes. I ride in the north LA area 
>>>> and there is no shortage of bike riders out here. But I can ride everyday 
>>>> for a month and never see the kind of stuff posted here. 
>>>>
>>>> I was fixing a friends Rivendell and as we were loading his bike on the 
>>>> car rack a doordash guy came by and said “That’s a Rivendell!”. We spent 
>>>> the next 20-min talking about it and Rivendell bikes. 
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. L for Sale

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

There's no finer Joe Appaloosa anywhere, folks on the hunt should get this 
before Roberta comes to her senses and holds it tight.
Wishing I could buy it for the parts alone. Darn 650b!
-Kai

On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 9:32:43 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Brian, my mustard 51 cm Joe A will be on the market in a few days.   PM me 
> if interested. Full bike only at this time. 
>
> Roberta in Philadelphia, PA
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 10:10:44 PM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> The business model for Rivendell is to focus on one frame group at a 
>> time.  So it takes a couple of months to work through a container or so of 
>> frames.  They are having the Sam Hillborne frame now so that is going to 
>> generate the excitement for their work capacity.  It could easily be next 
>> year before the Clem Smith Junior (H) and (L).  
>>
>> The variety of bicycle types and models is cool but a person who sees a 
>> bike like my Clem Smith Jr. might have to wait a long time to find one for 
>> themselves.  I wanted a Joe Appaloosa months ago and have not been able to 
>> get one.
>>
>> That is why the secondary market is important.  When we pass our bikes 
>> around among Rivendellers we make it possible to have or try more than one 
>> Bicycle.
>>
>> This bike is really beautiful in person.  Grant says it will last a 
>> lifetime and it is less than a year old now.
>>
>> Brian Oldham
>> 916-712-1609 <(916)%20712-1609>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 4:02 AM Mark Roland  wrote:
>>
>>> Nice build on one of the (rightly) most sought after models in all of 
>>> Rivendell. This bike with lights and fenders and comfy seat can do double 
>>> duty as bike that can take you just about anywhere and as your second car 
>>> (but way less expensive and waaay more fun.) I don't think the Clem Ls are 
>>> due again for some time?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 1:50:12 AM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi. 

 52 frame size

 Brian O

 On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 05:58 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
 thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Frame size?
>
> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 1:23:07 AM UTC-5 brianma...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, 
>> for I bought a Clem Smith Jr. last September and have ridden and 
>> enjoyed it but now it is time to sell.  This bike has been upgraded as 
>> follows"
>>
>> generator hub and light
>>
>> better Shimano pedals
>>
>> better seat  Brooks B67S
>>
>> rivendell handle bar treatment,  shellacked bar tape and cork grips
>>
>> The bicycle is in very good shape 
>>
>> I paid $1,600 for a complete bike and the upgrades added to the cost.
>>
>> Asking price is $1,500 or you have a different offer.
>>
>> Brian Oldham
>> 916-712-1609 <(916)%20712-1609>
>>
>> San Carlos, Ca. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I'll bet those kids were hollering for another 100 at the end!  Very nice. 
-Kai

On Sunday, February 21, 2021 at 9:52:11 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> A friend wanted to ride 100 km yesterday, so I suggested a route which 
> involved a pretty unreasonable amount of climbing but incredible views and 
> lots of mixed surfaces and time away from cars.  It was a blast. My tan 
> wall tires are no longer tan whatsoever. 
>
> [image: PXL_20210220_235438303.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Clem H sizing, availability

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Marty. Easily the best box art I've received (I'm the 3rd 
owner) https://photos.app.goo.gl/EAcE6bLjfWX43FE57
-Kai

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 12:03:18 PM UTC-4 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> I'm the one who gave mine up to the bunch - it rode just a bit too big for 
> me (92pbh) and I have a 59 Clem H now that hits the sweet spot better than 
> any Riv I've owned. (64 Atlantis, 64 Quickbeam, 60 Bombadil, 63 All 
> Rounder) I really wanted to like the monster Roscoe, but until you ride it 
> it's never easy to know for sure. I still feel exclusive with the Clem H 
> now that step throughs are all the rage, and it might move me in the 
> direction on N+Zero. For someone with persistent hip pain, I didn't really 
> notice any difference between a step-through and a swing-around top-tuber - 
> it's a pain either way. YMMV.
>
> Marty
>
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 9:30:50 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> Kai, whoa, sorry to hear of the illegal turner but glad you and the frame 
>> otherwise appear to have come out of it unscathed.  I vaguely recall when 
>> one popped up for resale here (or maybe I'm just confusing that with Will's 
>> FYI that one of the pre-sales became available when someone backed out?) 
>> and was again way behind in seeing it but with 12 in the world hopefully my 
>> timing is better if one of the remaining 10 ever get released to the wild.  
>> Of course, I could always post a WTB in case anyone is holding one that's 
>> not getting ridden much but I'd need to first sell the Clem H to fund it 
>> and I'm actually banking on the upcoming Roaduno you mentioned was 
>> supposedly getting the XXL treatment.  (if all goes well it may end up 
>> replacing 3 rotating single speeds... though I still haven't been able to 
>> bring myself to offload any of them and they are different enough that I 
>> have greatly enjoyed mixing things up.)  Two of the 3 are now rebuilt and 
>> ready for spring to replace the one I've ridden exclusively the past 1.5yrs 
>> which will go back into reserve.
>>
>> Best,
>> Brian Cole
>> Lawrenceville NJ
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 5:08:12 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Andrew! They're rusting pretty good, even after a clear coat of 
>>> Penetrol, but strong and regularly carrying 70lb grocery loads on the lower 
>>> front.
>>> And Coal Bee Rye Anne, there's 12 in the world. I thought there was 6 
>>> and I might've spread that rumor, but a recent post of Will's cleared it 
>>> up. And thanks to Ryan, I've got 2 (A SIXTH OF THE WORLDS SUPPLY) and I 
>>> can sleep at night because of it. I got run down by an illegal turner that 
>>> left me flustered and mostly fearful for the fate of the frame, which was 
>>> fine, but it put the fear in me.
>>> -Kai
>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 8:48:02 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kai- 
>>>> That is some truly glorious rack and basket work on your Bubbe! Bravo!
>>>> Is it new (hence no rust) or does it have some sort of clearcoat on it?
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Andrew in Sydney
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 10:38:59 AM UTC+10 Abcyclehank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I heard some people like the jumbo mountain mixte Rosco so much they 
>>>>> have more than one in their fleet 樂   .
>>>>> Wish I had been that smart...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ryan Hankinson
>>>>> West Michigan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:29:55 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the answer to everything- search the world for one of these 
>>>>>> (the precious, the Rosco Bubbe) and be forever happy- 
>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9  
>>>>>> Doesn't look as steppy throughy as the Clem L, but still gives some 
>>>>>> room, and (risking offense to my fellow Clem 65 owners, sorry folks) 
>>>>>> rides 
>>>>>> better than the Clems.
>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:15:26 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am another 65cm H owner... with approx 97-ish pbh, 6'5" height.  
>>>>>>> My seatpost and bar height are extended nearly the same as in Julian's 
>>>>>>> pic 
>>>>>>> except I'm us

[RBW] Re: Clem's mount for rear wheel lock.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Another voice of dissent here, I use velcro straps that weigh nothing to 
engage my brake levers when I'm within eyeshot of my bike. Any would be 
thief will be confused by the locked up brakes long enough for me to run to 
my bicycle's defense.
-Kai

On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 2:37:02 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I shall dissent from the others who like these things. I had the one Riv 
> used to sell mounted on a Clem and it was really stinking heavy. At the 
> time I lived in an upstairs apartment and the extra weight when lifting the 
> bike up those steps was quite noticeable and I took it off. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 11:15:22 AM UTC-7 David B wrote:
>
>> I purchased my Clem in the first round pre-sale, and up until now I 
>> haven't thought about the mounts for a Dutch-style rear wheel lock. 
>> However, I'm seeing some use for it now, with short trips within my 
>> neighborhood. Really just for running in somewhere for a few seconds with 
>> bike in view.
>> Anyone used one on a Clem? Your thoughts on whether it's 'worth' it or 
>> not?
>> Max tire/fender clearance?
>> Thanks,
>> David
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: rear dropout spacing Sam Hillborne

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

135 is standard for the Hillbornes, yup. 135 is very available, I bet 
someone here's got a nice rear wheel for sale...
-Kai

On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 5:03:53 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am finally tackling my SH build. and I am immediately stumped by the 
> rear dropout spacing.
> mine is measuring 136, so call it 135mm.
> I was expecting 130mm for some reason, standard road bike metric. (and I 
> only have wheels that size)
>
> is 135mm standard for this frame? are 700c wheels generally available in 
> 135mm spacing?[image: SH wheel spacing 135.jpg][image: 
> IMG_20210416_58379.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Lost Sackville HappiSack Corroplast

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Seems like you’ve got your necessary measurements. Just wanted to add a 
trick I learned when replacing my own coroplast, that a couple bends on the 
fore or aft makes a huge difference in the bags stability
More structure is good, sometimes 
-Kai


On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 7:40:28 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Curious if anybody knows the exact dimensions of the corroplast that fits 
> inside their Sackville Happisack.  I misplaced mine and am going to go down 
> to Tap Plastics and have them cut another.  Just wondering if anybody knows 
> the exact dimensions of theirs?  Pretty trivial, but thought it wouldn't 
> hurt to put it out there.
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: sticky thing for keeping headbadge on bike

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It was mentioned before, and I'll put my vote in for VHB tape (very high 
bond). Not a pro, so I can't make a pro tip, but as an enthusiastic 
amateur, let me recommend that you first stick it to the badge, carefully 
trim it back from the edge, and stick it, hopefully not upside down, 
because- very high bond.
-Kai

On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 3:28:32 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:

> Thanks all I'll take a look at the options.
>
> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 1:21:08 PM UTC-4 Scott McLain wrote:
>
>> I am with Garth.  Silicone adhesive seams like it would be better than 
>> two way tape/adhesive.  Just my $0.02.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 8:33:57 AM UTC-6 Christopher Cote 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had to reattach all the glued-on headbadges on my Riv bikes. I use 
>>> 3M auto trim tape, available at auto parts stores, and of course at Amazon. 
>>> Works perfectly, and comes in reasonably sized (and priced) rolls. I find 
>>> many uses around the house and shop for the remainder of the roll. 
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:46:30 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
>>>
 My cheviot fell off my Cheviot. Thankfully, I saw it about to go and 
 grabbed it, sheepie is not sitting forlornly on the side of a road 
 somewhere. 

 I need to replace the double-sided sticky rubber thing they use to keep 
 the headbadges on. Anyone know what it is, or have a better solution? 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: lots of very lightly-used tires!!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I’ll take the somas and the cavas if still available 
-Kai

On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 3:06:01 PM UTC-4 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m starting to clear out my hoard unused parts, starting with tires! 
> All tires have been minimally ridden, some are almost like-new, some are a 
> little dirty. But they all have plenty of life left in them. Prices 
> included shipping to the lower 48. Feel free to ask any questions! Buy 
> multiple sets and I’ll knock some $$ off the prices!
> All prices are for the pair!
>
> Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 - $65
> Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29 x 2.1 - $75
> Ultradynamico Cava 700 x 43 - $65
> Panaracer Smoke/Dart reissues 26 x 2.0 - $50
> Michelin Country 26 x 2 - $40
> Maxxis DTH 26 x 2.15 - $40
>
> Pm for any pictures! 
>

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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Huffy SUPREME! 
$300 = 2TT of bargain. 
I'm unaffiliated. 
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-huffy-supreme-commuter-bike/7386928392.html

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[RBW] Re: continuing to ride desire

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It's usually cheap to fly to Las Vegas, and there's abundant trails all 
around, plus January/February is lovely weatherwise. Just don't gamble.
-Kai

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 8:07:30 AM UTC-5 peech1...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

> I ride my Atlantis MIT from March going forward until the ice and snow 
> fall.  I have lost the enthusiasm for studded tire riding in the cold.  I 
> like to ride trails primarily.  Weather here in LaCrosse, WI has turned 
> nasty and I am missing riding.  I've got the time to venture somewhere warm 
> where there is abundant trail riding and am asking the group for 
> suggestions.  Thanks in advance.  I may not go anywhere, given COVID, but I 
> can always dream.  Tim Petersen.

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[RBW] anybody traveling around DC-NY want to pick up a 68cm bike and take it North?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

This thing blows my 
mind, 
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/herndon-specialized-sequoia-sport/7421526513.html
  
but shipping would be very pricey (I can't afford it, but this bike at this 
price makes me have to ask if there's a way to make this happen) So, if 
anyone's able and willing, I'll get you back with gas money, custom racks, 
or you name it!
Thanks
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: FS or trade! Sackville Bagboy with Kangaroo pouch

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

This is a great bag, maybe the greatest of all the sackville line...  
I sewed a buckle to my kangaroo pouch to secure it down using the tail of 
the bag's strap and it works magnificently as a front bar bag. No hold down 
means the kangaroo jumps around, I guess that's why they call it the 
kangaroo [pouch]!!
Good luck with the sale, not that luck's needed, this bag rules! 
HNY -Kai

On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 9:40:13 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:

> Bump! Price drop!
>
> 125 shipped
>
> On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 3:59:38 PM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> For sale is a used Bagboy in grid grey (silver?) with kangaroo pouch.  
>> Bag has some beausage, some scuffs and stains that I haven't tried 
>> removing. Overall it's in good shape.
>>
>> 135 shipped
>>
>> would also trade for Banana sack in silver.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jamin 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

"any tig-welded Rivendell without a liftatube is an opportunity lost" 
Well said Bill. 
-Kai (hoarder of Massive Mountain Mixtes)


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 12:33:13 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Garth said: " Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" 
> are empty promises"
>
> Be that as it may, I'm not convinced that a backwards seat clamp on a 
> prototype bicycle frame that is currently not available for purchase 
> qualifies as a "dictate".  But that's just me.  I don't even know whether 
> the production version of that frameset will have a reversed seat clamp.  
>
> It is a fact that the investment-cast R05C0 8U883 seat clamp is 
> reversible.  It being reversible, the motivation I ascribe to Rivendell is 
> "hey, it's reversible, lets try it reversed on these prototypes"  
>
> For fun, here is a link to a flickr photo of my R05C0 8U883 "medium 
> mountain mixte*" showing that same seat clamp in the normal direction, 
> allowing me to run cantilever brakes.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/36650803254
>
> For what it's worth, any tig-welded Rivendell without a liftatube is an 
> opportunity lost.  I'd buy back my former "medium mountain mixte" for the 
> price I sold it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> *I know that it was not really a mixte.  I know that inaccurately 
> referring to it as a mixte makes some people crazy.  In the arm wrestling 
> match between "alliteration" and "placating the handwringers", I usually 
> choose alliteration.  
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:51:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>
>> Eric, Rivendell as well as countless buyers have assembled even lower TT 
>> Clem-L's, and similar TT height Gus/Susie frames with canti brakes.
>>
>> Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" are empty 
>> promises as they have no intention of saving anyone/anything except the 
>> dictates themselves from being challenged on their validity. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:37:05 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> It would be very difficult to run a rear canti on this type of frame.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 6:22 AM Garth  wrote:
>>>
 Regarding the backwards SP clamp and the exclusion of brake bridge 
 cable stops, considering Riv is invested in their own brand of canti brake 
 as well as v-brake it's self-defeating to exclude one brake type or the 
 other from any of their frames.



 On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:40:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> The seatpost clamp on the front is Grant's way of encouraging you to 
> use V-brakes instead of cantilevers.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I'm intrigued by that seatpost clamp being on the front side.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I am seriously considering picking one of these up when available. I 
>>> was planning on maybe getting a Clem but am now leaning this way if I 
>>> can 
>>> make it happen.
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:52:48 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: 60026667-BBE4-4894-9B68-7351C00A6B5B.jpeg][image: 
 5B4687A4-36C7-4E75-B039-924523758E08.gif]More overlay fun with a 
 platypus and Rosco Platy. 
 When can I have a Rosco Plat and a Charles H Gallop (to potentially 
 replace my Cheviot and Sam Hillborne and even the Rosco Baby)? Looking 
 forward to v-brakes (and eventually Silver v-brakes) for sure. 

 That said, took the Cheviot on a wonderful ride today … still 
 thinking of having v-brake posts brazed on.


 On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 20:06:16 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide 
> which is more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now 
> the two 
> of them went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How 
> many 
> Rosco Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could 
> ever 
> happen if the demand is there...
>
> It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping 
> for CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be 
> plumb 
> full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.
>
> Leah
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella 
> wrote:
>
>> If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a 
>> Platypus, this is your bike. 
>> 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love the red one. 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

66cm Nobilette 
custom $1,299- 
https://cnj.craigslist.org/bik/d/princeton-junction-nobilette-custom/7417984063.html

GET AERO!!
-Kai

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:35:48 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> And here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/Tw0_rSyCuhs
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 12:29:35 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Matthew Williams linked:
>>
>> 
>> Clem Smith H
>> 52cm
>> $2250*
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html
>>
>> *also listed here for $2000:
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2663376013967649
>> 
>>
>> It's also on ebay for $3000:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175066323016?hash=item28c2c41848:g:1MQAAOSwnP5hkqqJ
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 7:58:41 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Saluki
>>> 62cm
>>> $2000
>>> Laramie, WY
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/144319650691
>>>
>>> Redwood
>>> 62cm
>>> $1750
>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/palo-alto-rivendell-redwood-lugged/7415689768.html
>>>
>>> Atlantis F/F/HS
>>> 51cm
>>> $999
>>> Jamestown, NY
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294610054062
>>>
>>> Appaloosa
>>> 54cm
>>> $4000
>>> Patchogue, NY
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255148243764
>>>
>>> Rambouillet
>>> Medium (contact seller for size)
>>> $300
>>> Lowell, MA
>>>
>>> https://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/bik/d/lowell-rivendell-ramboulliet-classic/7418735163.html
>>>
>>> Rambouillet
>>> 58cm
>>> $1500
>>> Huntsville, AL
>>>
>>> https://huntsville.craigslist.org/bik/d/huntsville-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7412785968.html
>>>
>>> Clem Smith H
>>> 52cm
>>> $2250*
>>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>>
>>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html
>>>
>>> *also listed here for $2000:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2663376013967649
>>>
>>> Appaloosa
>>> 54cm
>>> $2500
>>> Dallas, TX
>>>
>>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/waxahachie-joe-appaloosa-by-rivendell/7417683586.html
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen
>>> 67cm
>>> $2100
>>> Pacific Beach, CA
>>>
>>> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/d/san-diego-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7406756215.html
>>>
>>> A. Homer Hilsen
>>> 64cm
>>> $3400
>>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7417960173.html
>>>
>>> Clem Smith Jr.
>>> 64cm
>>> $1000
>>> Santa Cruz, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendaleclem-smith-jrlike/7417901386.html
>>>
>>> Sam Hillborne
>>> 62cm
>>> $3100
>>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7416818469.html
>>>
>>> Roadini
>>> 61cm
>>> $1500
>>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-roadini-cm/7416815869.html
>>>
>>> Standard/L’Eroica (1995 Waterford) F/F/HS
>>> 50cm
>>> $1450
>>> Fairfax, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/fairfax-wow-beautiful-1995-rivendell/7413622781.html
>>>
>>> Atlantis
>>> size unspecified, contact seller
>>> $2160
>>> Newark, CA
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659541301709196
>>>
>>> Clem Smith L
>>> size unspecified, contact seller
>>> $2500
>>> Midland, MI
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>>
>>> Protovelo
>>> 57.5cm
>>> $1299
>>> New York, NY
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/844420596174307
>>>
>>> Atlantis
>>> 51cm
>>> $1800
>>> Old Saybrook, CT
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578
>>>
>>> Appaloosa
>>> 57cm
>>> C$5000
>>> Montreal, QC
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>>
>>> Romulus
>>> 59cm
>>> $2000
>>> Meridian, ID
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828474327784801
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Clem Smith Jr Parts for sale

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Congratulations on the new Bike!
What length are the Silver cranks you're selling? 178mm I hope...
And while I'm not shopping for a stem, what's the size on that for all that 
may be in the market?
Thanks
-Kai

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-5 fraze...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> So, I drove up to Riv on Monday and picked up my new Clem, I am now an 
> official owner and not just an admirer! 
>
> Anywho, I bought the complete build but had already bought a bunch of my 
> own parts to build a frame and fork. So, I am selling a lot of the 
> brand-new parts that I have removed. 
>
> Buyer pays shipping. Only shipping to CONUS :)
>
> Rivendell Silver 34/24t Crank w/ chainguard - $190
> Tektro Quartz V-Brake - $40 (for both wheels)
> Tektro (wide blade) levers - $20 (pair)
> Alex DM24 700c/29er wheelset with Novatech hubs and skewers - $220 (pair)
> Kenda K-1129 Kwick Journey 45mm tires - $40 (pair)
> Deore front derailleur - $30
> Sunrace rear 11-34 cassette - $30
> Sunrace thumbie - $40
> Nitto Talux stem - $50
> Shimano Acera trigger rear shifter - $40
> Tosco handlebars - $50
> Shimano UN300 (113x68) bottom bracket - $20
>
> *From my own parts bin...*
>
> Used Brooks C-17 Special - $90
>
> Thanks! 
> [image: PXL_2027_200606128.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: PSA - Brooks B68 Saddles IN STOCK

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Laing!
-Kai

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Bikeinn has Brooks B-68 honey saddles in stock. This is not the first time 
> that I have found long out of production items there, that is where I 
> bought Speedplay Drillium pedals last year - I half did not believe them 
> until the pedals were delivered. $92.99 + 10.99 = $103.98 shipped for a B68 
> is not a bad price either. I only ordered 1, but it let me put 5 in the 
> basket. I have no affiliation with Bikeinn, just another customer, but I 
> know that there are others that, like myself, love the B68.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
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Re: [RBW] Clems: Rivendell, modernized?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Gil- I did! and a brag- I "cleaned" it, no taps. Big tires help negotiate 
those granite lumps for sure. I'll be there on Saturday!, but no bike...  
If you find yourself cruising around, stop by, third house from the end on 
the Rockport side of Long Beach, AKA Pau Hana (Mom's fam's been renting 
that plot for over 100 years)
Maybe next summer we can shred Dogtown Commons (unless you've got a better 
secret granite trail stash)
-Kai

On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 1:28:06 PM UTC-5 Gill wrote:

> Kai - Did you ride your Clem out to the end of the breakwater? I’ve never 
> thought to do that. I’ve also never seen another Riv out in the wild so if 
> ever you return to glosta give a shout out. 
> Leah - The color is, “blue-green shot thru with glimmer like sunlight on 
> seawater” 
>
> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 11:26:14 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote:
>
>> The granite of Cape Ann!! With two TIGd Rivs (Clem in 2019 on the 
>> breakwater and Rosco in 2020)
>> [image: IMG_20190704_130839.jpg][image: IMG_20200904_122038.jpg]
>> Happy Rolling to all
>> -Kai
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thanksgiving rides? and a Platy goes on 1st cruise

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Looks like a blast! Glad to see folks out enjoying their step throughs to 
the fullest extent. While I can claim membership in the Rivendell 
Mixte/Clem club, my Clem is an H model and my mixte only has ONE single 
lug! (though it's beautiful WI borne TIG beads are sooo lovely, I bought 
TWO!). Thanks for sharing the good times and gooder bikes
-Kai

On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Yankeebird, 
>
> You dodged a bullet by not giving up on that Clem! I suffered with the 
> extended front end problem too (I had a thread that got a LOT of 
> participation over this issue) but once I got it dialed in with an 8 cm 
> stem it is fantastic. That blue Clem will never be for sale. Ever ever 
> ever. And like you, I have the Rivendell mixte and the Clem and I so agree 
> that there are uses for BOTH. (By my count of people who have both it is: 
> you, Joyce, Junie, Emily, Sofiya, Grant, and me.)They feel like totally 
> different machines to me, and I get joy out of riding both. I park them 
> next to each other in the garage just glancing at them on my way by fills 
> me with happiness. They are SO beautiful. 
>
> I’m thrilled for your friend and her new Platypus. It really is such a 
> wonderful bike. Rare like its namesake, it’s a treat to see Platy Posts. 
> Will from Rivendell got his Platypus built up and it’s posted on the News 
> section of the Rivendell website. Hope we get to see more of these rare 
> creatures; the next run of them is going to be a much greater number.
>
> L
>
> On Nov 27, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Yankeebird  wrote:
>
> Leah,
>
> She secured her Platypus during the initial offering, but due to 
> Circumstances Beyond Her Control it sat unused for many months- but we are 
> here now, and thankful! 
> This is her second Riv. She had a 51 AHH but it was actually a bit small, 
> despite all the assurances of the WC team. It seems that the older Riv 
> philosophy of sizing up if close to two sizes still applies despite the new 
> geometries. Additionally, she did not like the 650b wheel size. The AHH 
> went off to a good home on a farm somewhere and she got the 700cc 55cm 
> Platypus. The Platypus solved many problems and it was love at first ride! 
> The location of the bag means she doesn't have to fully dismount to access 
> things, she likes it there better, and unlike basket, rain protection and 
> no hardware!
>
> Interestingly enough this was only my second "longer" ride on the Clem... 
> I've been discouraged on the bike since it came with the new sneaky 
> "Extended Front End" but with a short DirtDrop it's really come into its 
> own on the old dirt roads of New England. I *almost* sold it a few months 
> back! So glad I didn't! While there is overlap between the Cheviot and 
> Clem, they both do certain things much better than the other. It's nice to 
> have the operational spread.
>
> Phenomenal bike, that Platypus. 
>
> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 11:22:18 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The Platypus salute is so awesome 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 6:04:25 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, this warms my post-turkey Thanksgiving heart. A Clem AND a Platy and 
>>> #RivSisters and a new Platy owner salute. Way to make my night! Since this 
>>> Platy is on its first cruise, I’m curious where your friend found it. They 
>>> are so, so rare. I’ve been keeping an eye out a couple of people just 
>>> pining for the enigmatic and coveted Rivendell Platypus. I’m so glad your 
>>> friend found her very own. Is this her first Rivendell?
>>>
>>> Also, I have never ever seen a Saddlesack put on the handlebars! Very 
>>> creative, and it looks like it will work great. 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 26, 2021 at 3:55:40 PM UTC-8 Yankeebird wrote:
>>>
 Anyone get any nice Thanksgiving rides in yesterday? Care to share?!

 We took a nice ride along the East Branch of the Westfield River in 
 Chesterfield, MA. 12 miles roundtrip on an old truck road. Picnic on a 
 sandbar. Probably picked up some ticks too! I've never been here, I have 
 no 
 real connection to MA, and it was, dare I say, gorges? (nyuk nyuk nyuk, 
 with apologies to Ithaca) Someone inaugurated their Platypus on the ride 
 as 
 well! Stupendous! Thanksgiving rides are the best.

 Yup, all drivetrain side down at Picnic Time. There was another bike 
 but off frame. That's my Clem in the front and my older Surly CC with a 
 Alfine 8 and Albatross bars that is now basically my brothers bike since 
 he 
 commandeered it from me two years ago and hasn't given it back:
 [image: PXL_20211125_191837010.jpg]

 Proud new Platypus owner! "My wrists didn't hurt!" and "I can't believe 
 I rode 12 miles over all those rocks and I feel fine today" means that we 
 have achieved SUCCESS:
 [image: PXL_20211125_192734966.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: WTB Paul Racers

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

WTS (wanting to see) Ryan's custom frame:)
-Kai

On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 11:40:26 PM UTC-4 Abcyclehank wrote:

> Also hunting for a pair of Braze on Paul Racers for a custom frame built 
> up needing them.
>
> I have a single polished silver one or two M racers silver ones if someone 
> is interested in a trade.
>
> Ryan Hankinson
> Muskegon, MI
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[RBW] Re: FS: Panarcer Gravelking Tires

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I'll take the 38's if still available, PM on the way
-Kai

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:33:35 PM UTC-5 Kushan wrote:

> Looking to sell two pairs of Pararacer Gravelking tires that I purchased 
> for my Roadini but no longer need. Both pairs are used but they have plenty 
> of life left in them. The treads intact, tires are clean, and there are no 
> issues with them whatsover. 
>
> (1) 700x38 Gravelking Slick with Black sidewalls 
> .
>  
> About 600 miles on them, all pavement. Asking $55 for the pair including 
> shipping to CONUS
>
> (2) 700x35 Gravelking SS with Black sidewalls 
> .
>  
> About 200 miles on them, all pavement. Asking $60 for the pair including 
> shipping to CONUS
>
>
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[RBW] Re: New Plat in Brooklyn

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Super PLAT! (SPLAT!)
Happy Rolling...
-Kai

On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 12:03:11 AM UTC-6 Brooklyn Plat wrote:

> I got one from that first batch of Platypuses. Twenty-five years as a Riv 
> fan, but never an owner, finis. Full membership in the cult, now. I decided 
> I would get the full experience and let Riv build it for me, also, I was 
> rebuilding another bike at the same time and couldn't handle a second 
> project. (That bike is kind of a Riv knockoff.) It's a modest build. No 
> fancy parts. I am curious about the low-normal derailer Grant is working 
> on. We'll see. Also I prefer a chainstay kickstand. Another thing to think 
> about. In low gear I just shot up Old Mountain Road near Nyack, and as 
> promised, no feeling at all that the bike was going to go over backward. 
> That's nearly tree climbing. I need to cloth tape the ESI grips, and at 
> first thought I'd do it in red; Riv even included a roll of the tape for me 
> to use, and I've got twine and shellac to finish it off. But I kind of like 
> the black/red combination, so I may do the grips in black. Since this photo 
> I've hung an inexpensive black rack off the back. Bikes have to be more 
> than pretty faces. Brooklyn being bike crazy right now and Riv having 
> caught on (I have my own theory), once inventory levels there are rebuilt I 
> expect to see myself coming and going on Brooklyn streets. Don't mind at 
> all. May Riv live long and prosper.
>
> [image: Riv1.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That Hunq's worth it for the fork alone. Definitely not JRA damage..
-Kai

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:05:21 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Hunqapillar in need of repair, $50. 
> 53cm
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-hunqapillar-needs/7457917053.html
>  
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[RBW] Re: Roaduno 2022 concepts

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Dibs on the big one!!
If I manage to pick one up, I like the idea of the bullmoose. Currently 
have my Clem H set up with them and another set hanging from the rafters. 
Would love love love love a chocomoose with a little less rise, or a 
stachamoose...
Kinda hoping they're all tigged, but lugs'll do
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> My Chocomoose is currently installed on a 68cm Schwinn Traveler built into 
> a single speed and kind of serving as a placeholder for a build I 
> eventually hope to move over to a RoadUno... atleast the bars/inverse 
> levers, and saddle.
> I have mine currently slammed, though it's been adjusted at times between 
> slammed and an inch or two of exposed quill and re-slammed again recently 
> while fitting a basket.  The frame has a 62.5cm top tube ctc with 73deg 
> parallel angles and honestly not sure how this would correlate or compare 
> to whatever the largest RoadUno geomety will be but I'd anticipate a 
> similarly slammed Chocomoose on my own build with Riv's tall headtubes and 
> some extra standover with slope.  
>
> After trying a few different builds I'm really enjoying the uninterrupted 
> grip using the inverse levers on the Chocomoose and definitely plan to try 
> these first.
>
> Best,
> Brian Cole
> Lawrenceville NJ
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:14:11 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I could pull my Albastache cockpit off my RB1 beater.  That's an option.  
>> I did like the ChocoMoose that came on my Appaloosa, but I needed to slam 
>> it to get it low enough.  I'll have to look at the numbers...
>>
>> BLinEC
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:44:24 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> If I wanted a standard drop type of experience I would go with 
>>> Albastache. If I wanted the full sweptback experience the Losco and Choco 
>>> bars are my favorite road sweptback bar.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-5 tommc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 either bullmoose bars, or run some North Road bars upside down...

 On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:06:38 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> There was an Instagram post showing that Riv has prototype samples of 
> all sizes of RoadUno, inviting us to come test ride them.  I just emailed 
> Will to find out if they really have a 57 ready to test ride for me.  Has 
> anybody ridden one at RBWHQ?
>
> I haven't seen numbers yet, but since they say "designed for swept 
> bars" I'm going to take them at their word that I won't be putting drops 
> on 
> a RoadUno.  I think my urbanscorcher version of a RoadUno might have Riv 
> Bullmoose bars.  What would you run?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB Choco-moose

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Lean times allover could free up my choco-mooses. They're great on my Clem, 
but it's currently wearing moosey-mooses. What say $180, pickupable in 
North Brooklyn or the UWS, or anywhere in between (midway of the GW?)
-Kai

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Even though I'm going to give my Ron's Ortho bars another shot on my Hunq 
> with a longer stem, I really want to try out the Choco-moose bars.  Anybody 
> have a set they want to let go of?  Preferably in the NY/NJ area so we 
> don't have to deal with shipping, which I assume will be a bear...
>
> James
>

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[RBW] Re: Choco bar / brake lever advice?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

If you want a weird idea for reach 
adjustment- 
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/l-lWV_Sk5b0/m/1TJk4jbca2gJ
It worked (for reach adjustment, not as a lamp)
-Kai

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 9:42:32 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with these L-shaped Dia Compe brake levers 
> intended for bullhorn-style handlebars, but perhaps suitable for 
> installation on a choco (or moustache) bars?   Do they work well (provide 
> adequate leverage, easy to reach, enough movement  without bottoming out 
> against the bar)?  Would they work with choco bars?  If so, would they work 
> better installed one direction versus another?  It seems they could be 
> installed with the hinge on the front section, forward of the bend, as 
> easily as at the end.
>
>
> https://www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/Dia-Compe-DC139-Brake-Lever-p14878.htm
>
> I'm trying to replace one of my numerous moustache bars with a choco moose 
> bar - mostly for the sake of variety, but partly because I thought they'd 
> be almost identical with the exception of the primary and secondary grip 
> positions being reversed - but it isn't quite working out that way.  
>
> Because the choco doesn't bend forward before coming back, and because the 
> fixed "stem" reach is effectively short, my hands want to rest at the curve 
> even in my upright/relaxed body position - so basically like a moustache 
> bar without a leaned-forward, aero, position and with the relaxed/default 
> position being forward of the straight section where a normal brake lever 
> would mount.  (Hope that makes sense)
>
> Combined with the fact that it's difficult to even find straight bar brake 
> levers at the moment  I'm wondering if these might work by giving me access 
> to  the brakes from multiple grip locations.  I suppose I could try drop 
> bar levers mounted forward of the curve, but that kind of defeats the point 
> of getting rid of the moustache bar, when I could achieve something similar 
> with a shorter stem.
>

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[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I love V.P. pedals until they start going bad, which is pretty quick in my 
experience. Needing to rebuild a pedal regularly gets in the way of my 
minimal maintenance schedule, so I decided to try these Fookers- 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NXPs7HwaAgJwDU8V9 because they’re 
cheap/disposable. To my surprise, they’re not disposable. They’re long 
lasting, totally great (and cheap!). Maybe not the most stylish, but I 
usually can’t see them…
-Kai

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:

> Hi all.
> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a long while 
> (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from Speedplay Frogs. 
> Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my commuter (Sam Hill).
>
> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally feel 
> gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've recently 
> used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. These are okay, 
> but what I've discovered is that for my riding,  flats without connection 
> (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better underfoot with a fairly large 
> platform, and low stack height,  like the Vice. And yet I know many of you 
> enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and Allways models. All of these 
> appear to be taller, and all are narrower than the vice. And yet...I 
> wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing downhill, fully padded and 
> helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I just ride my bike here and 
> there, long distances, when time allows.
>
> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at many other 
> pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your favorites, and why? 
> For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, what is your 
> opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if the length of 
> the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, Lambda, and Allways, 
> for instance, are all longer than the Vice, while being slimmer. 
>
> Thanks.
> John
>
>
>

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[RBW] Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hi Rivfolk!
I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
bike packed up at? 
Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram until 
I can figure something out?
Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
Many thanks
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

All set! Halcyon bicycles, who sound great on the phone and were seconded, 
thirded and fourthed by responders, will be boxing it up for me.
Thank you to all
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Hi Rivfolk!
> I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
> Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
> something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
> bike packed up at? 
> Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram 
> until I can figure something out?
> Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
> Many thanks
> -Kai
>

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[RBW] Re: Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

it is!

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:42:51 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice, Kai! Glad you could get this worked out. Is this the $600 Ram from 
> the other thread? 
>
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> All set! Halcyon bicycles, who sound great on the phone and were 
>> seconded, thirded and fourthed by responders, will be boxing it up for me.
>> Thank you to all
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivfolk!
>>> I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
>>> Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
>>> something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
>>> bike packed up at? 
>>> Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram 
>>> until I can figure something out?
>>> Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
>>> Many thanks
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Nashville bike purchase assistance please

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

And yes, the skinwall/blackwall thing's coming in hott!

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> pictures make everything better-
> [image: IMG_0224.jpg]
> I'm suuuper excited for this pizza cutter...
> -Kai
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:32:38 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> All set! Halcyon bicycles, who sound great on the phone and were 
>> seconded, thirded and fourthed by responders, will be boxing it up for me.
>> Thank you to all
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:43:08 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivfolk!
>>> I need to buy a bike located in Nashville, but I’m in New York..
>>> Anyone in or around Nashville willing to lend some time in trade for 
>>> something like goods or money? Or maybe you know a decent shop to get the 
>>> bike packed up at? 
>>> Maybe you wouldn’t mind holding a big beautiful creamsicle orange Ram 
>>> until I can figure something out?
>>> Lemme know at kaivierstra AT gmail DOT com
>>> Many thanks
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Custom $950

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

https://youtu.be/Tm4n9hl0oCM
more april fun from transportation alternatives
-Kai

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 7:40:11 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Rare adjustable angle lugs and telescoping adjustable length chainstays so 
> you always have the geometry that you want. Adjustable trail forks. 
> Ultralight Unobtanium tubing. Special Rene Herse self-truing wheelset with 
> Cross-wind spokes
> Happy April Fools Day!
>
> Laing
>

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[RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

You're Stoked! and I'm very happy for you. Being able to bring your bike 
inside can be a blessing and a curse, what with condensation and such as 
you see in jolly Philadelphia. I'm fortunate to have a back lot at my job 
where I can stash my bike behind a locked gate, and as a museum laborer, 
it's not a huge deal if I'm a little sweaty upon arrival (I keep emergency 
clothes stashed under my seldom used desk though).
As for backpacks, throw that thing in the Skoookiill river. 

A Happy Rolling Roberta!
-Kai


On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> After living in the city for decades, my company moved its office and I 
> can finally bike or walk commute--just under 2 miles each way.   I've been 
> varying my method based on the weather (I don't like riding in the rain, 
> snow or ice) and both are fabulous ways to start and end the day, 
> physically and mentally.  Most of the ride is on streets with bike lanes.  
> I'll be riding one of my two step-through's--Platypus or She-Devil.  I can 
> take the bike into my office.
>
> I like using a backpack for walking, but not sure about riding.   What do 
> you use for a short commuter trips--backpack (current preference, not not 
> sure how hot I'll find it in the warmer months), pannier or saddle bag (I 
> have a Riv Small Saddlesack).  I have rack or rack and basket on the back 
> of each bike. I'll be carrying lunch, a change of clothes and shoes.
>
> I have lots of lights and reflectors on the bikes.  Any other suggestions?
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Jared,
I do have two. After getting run down by a distracted driver I had a 
thought that that event could've hurt my Rosco! (flesh heals, Roscos dont). 
So when the opportunity presented itself, I jumped, paying over retail for 
a little comfort.
I'm about to put some 2.35 Ice Spiker Pros on one, so it's so very 
necessary, but with all these cool new bikes on the horizon, I could maybe 
see one getting bumped, eventually... 
As Grant knew, there's a serious void in the super step through market, 
hopefully many more will follow to capitalize on the want/need.
-Kai

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kai,
>
> Don't you have 2 of those Roscos? 
>
> Thats my dream Rivendell so if you did want to at some point downsize I'd 
> be happy to entertain the idea
>
> I'm sure there's a list of people who have said the same thing, but add my 
> name to it if there's a sliver of possibility there.
>
> Joe,
>
> Good luck with your search, I always keep an eye out for a large Rosco 
> Step Thru, so I know where you're coming from. 
>
> You'll land one eventually, hopefully sooner than later!
>
> Best
> Jared in SLO, CA
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:13:19 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no better 
>> bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of mine (of 
>> Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9>  
>> Good luck, never give up...
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
>>> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
>>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
>>> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>>>
>>> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a more 
>>> pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is my 
>>> favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my current 
>>> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
>>> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
>>> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
>>> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of blue 
>>> but most likely the lighter shade.
>>>
>>> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
>>> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
>>> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has become 
>>> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter bar 
>>> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
>>> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
>>> top condition!
>>>
>>> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
>>> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
>>> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
>>> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
>>> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
>>> love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
>>> step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
>>> hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
>>> might stand in the way of that plan).
>>>
>>> Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
>>> members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
>>> believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
>>> have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
>>> loving home!
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone,
>>>
>>> Joe Mullins
>>>
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>> [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no better 
bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of mine (of 
Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
  
Good luck, never give up...
-Kai

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>
> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a more 
> pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is my 
> favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my current 
> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of blue 
> but most likely the lighter shade.
>
> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has become 
> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter bar 
> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
> top condition!
>
> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
> love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
> step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
> hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
> might stand in the way of that plan).
>
> Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
> members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
> believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
> have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
> loving home!
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
> Joe Mullins
>
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids and a 
job that burns the present daylight hours away)
I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to Jersey 
City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From there we 
could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our way 
down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every 
crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be fine, 
if you're into that sort of thing...
Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
-Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>
> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately trying 
> to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something that 
> would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with like-minded 
> folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of town?  I know 
> i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park, if you see me 
> on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top accessories, please say 
> hi!
>
> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can 
> start a local mini thread? 
>
> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely to 
> use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open 
> taking donations, please let me know!
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It’s too hot now, we’ve missed our one day of comfort…
-Kai (on the clem of late, as rosco’s brake track has worn out. Ram’s in 
the spa)

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:32:07 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:

> hey all, sorry for letting this post sleep, now that weather is warming up 
> i'm building up courage to commute to work!   here's the list of folks that 
> responded (hope this is ok, you all posted publicly above):
>
> Adam / BedStuy / Joe Appaloosa
> Chase / BedStuy / Clem L & Sam
> Patch / E. Wiliamsburg / Quickbeam
> Alan / UWS /
> Kai / E. Williamsburg / Mixte + (bargain) Ram!
> Austin / ** / Roadini
> Minh / Park Slope / Quickbeam
>
> Now that weather is warming up, anyone want to start arranging/proposing 
> rides, i dunno if it needs to be super formal.  As far as organizing 
> methods, any votes?  keep it in this post, create a sub-group?   private 
> email list?
>
> And for any new folks that didnt see this originally, feel free to jump 
> in, we are not trying to replace the group, but trying to create a smaller 
> thread for hyper-local stuff like rides, parts swap etc.  
>
> weather is breaking so lets get out there!  maybe Kai will bring that new 
> Ram!
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:29:41 AM UTC-5 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Also interested! Also in Bed Stuy with my Joe Appaloosa!
>>
>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 chase@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keep me posted if some rides get organized, for sure interested. I am in 
>>> Bed Stuy with a Clem L and a Sam. Sounds fun! Chase
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:11:40 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> I cannot do any riding with the group on a regular basis, seeing that I 
>>>> live about 90 miles south in Philadelphia, but if the group comes over to 
>>>> the NJ side for a ride or part of ride, I'd join you.  It's always nice 
>>>> meeting like minded people.
>>>>
>>>> Kai, I love your Roscoe mixte, and especially your homemade weaved 
>>>> basket.  That is art to my eyes.  
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:41:51 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids 
>>>>> and a job that burns the present daylight hours away)
>>>>> I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to 
>>>>> Jersey City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From 
>>>>> there 
>>>>> we could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our 
>>>>> way 
>>>>> down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every 
>>>>> crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be 
>>>>> fine, 
>>>>> if you're into that sort of thing...
>>>>> Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
>>>>> -Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
>>>>>> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
>>>>>> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
>>>>>> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately 
>>>>>> trying to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  
>>>>>> Something 
>>>>>> that would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with 
>>>>>> like-minded folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of 
>>>>>> town?  I know i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the 
>>>>>> park, 
>>>>>> if you see me on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top 
>>>>>> accessories, please say hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we 
>>>>>> can start a local mini thread? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely 
>>>>>> to use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is 
>>>>>> open 
>>>>>> taking donations, please let me know!
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Those Chocomooses look right and proper.  
-Kai

On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:19:10 AM UTC-4 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I took the Hunq out to Stokes State Forest for an afternoon of bikefishing 
> and scouting for an overnight next month.  It was super nice - I'm really 
> liking the hand positions of the Choco Moose bars and their resistance to 
> spinning on rough trails.  I have some Fizik gel strips under the cloth 
> tape.  Good times.
>
> [image: IMG_20220412_125620395_HDR.jpg]
> [image: IMG_20220412_125659408_HDR.jpg][image: 
> IMG_20220412_152602361_HDR.jpg]
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-4 James M wrote:
>
>> It really is special.  I just got fabric in the mail to start sewing up a 
>> frame bag for that upper triangle!
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-4 Jennings wrote:
>>
>>> Hunq is by far my favorite.  My keep forever bike.  
>>>
>>> [image: HUNQ.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Third time's the charm?

 [image: Screenshot 2022-02-28 095048.png]

 On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:

> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>
>> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but 
>> didn't have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to 
>> switch over to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a 
>> better 
>> fit for me.  A little more width on the back would be nice, probably 
>> noticing it more coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm 
>> getting from this are really good so far!
>>
>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I believe the Craft brand lobster/trigger mitts to be rubbish. They don’t 
let your fingers touch, wasting valuable insulation in between what could 
otherwise be a cozy skin to skin situation. I love my relatively 
inexpensive Toko brand cross-country ski gloves, they allow my fingers to 
cuddle in comfort and perform their bike duties in single digit temps.
I’ve got three pairs of xxl, which will hopefully buy me a decade or so of 
winter bliss…
-Kai

On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 2:49:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, all. First, should have specified: No bar mitts or Pogies as I 
> need something that attaches to the hands and can be used on several bikes 
> with drop bars.
>
> From extensive experimenting I'm now convinced that for the teens mittens 
> are best, especially as its easiest to get wool undergloves into them than 
> into 2-finger, 3-finger, or 5-finger gloves. (Peeve: the PIs I bought in 
> 2022 or 2021 have a loose flannelly lining that grabs the material of the 
> wool under gloves you are trying to insert, causing much cussing and 
> gnashing of teeth. The earlier ones, from a year or so earlier had a less 
> grabby lining and I wish I'd kept them, but I thought at the time they were 
> too big.)
>
> The question then is, what mittens let you brake safely and shift 
> precisely?
>
> The Garbage Choppers look very promising, and you say that you have no 
> problems with dt shifters or mtb trigger shifters. That's encouraging. The 
> Outdoor Research nylon cover + boiled wool mitten was exquisitely warm but 
> made it hard to brake, let alone shift -- the mitts were stiff and 
> slippery. But the GCs are made from leather, so presumably much more 
> flexible and more grippy. I have to shift bar end shifters in friction and 
> a Sturmey Archer trigger mounted upside-down on the bottom far end of the 
> right drop bar hook.
>
> Garth: The Kincos look like good value but I'm more skeptical about the 
> warmth of 5-finger gloves compared to mittens. Do you find something like 
> this warm into the teens? Without nitrile undergloves? (I ain't gonna add 
> hassle to my already hasselous winter dressing with tight-fitting rubber 
> gloves!) The prices are certainly good.
>
> I take it this would be the item to get? 
> https://www.amazon.com/Kinco-Lined-Grain-Pigskin-Glove/dp/B01AT2XXX4?th=1
>
> Will: thanks for the Craft link. The price is good, but I think I'll look 
> first for mittens that are less cumbersome than the OR set I had. But link 
> noted for future reference.
>
> Patrick Moore, who will probably have a late-ish model pair of PI lobsters 
> for sale before too long.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 2:15 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in 
>> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers 
>> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster 
>> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth. 
>>
>> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled 
>> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward 
>> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake 
>> levers.
>>
>> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate 
>> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2 
>> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in 
>> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment 
>> sacrifices warmth.
>>
>> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives 
>> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or 
>> mittens that fit the bill?
>>
>> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can 
>> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this 
>> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> -
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>> -
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Thanks Josh!
I’ve got a Rambouillet I like to commute on but I’ve been riding the Clem 
exclusively since I busted my arm skateboarding. The Ram’s set up more 
forward/aggressive, and is less easily shifted into a more upright 
position. Fortunately I get to park my bikes in the back lot of my work, so 
I rest easy through the day. When I need to lock up in the city, I use a 
nice U-lock with a cable that I run through both wheels, seat, and 
handlebars (when I have the bullmooses). The one advantage of riding huge 
bikes is they’re less of a target for thieves, but still, I lock to the 
gills. New museum construction will be pushing me out of my backlot soon, 
so I’ll be locking up every day. The plans call for a small bike parking 
room indoors once complete (2? 3? 4 years?). Once I end up parking inside, 
I’ll worry a very slight bit about condensation. My bikes live in a cold or 
hot garage depending on the weather, so I’m never rolling my warm ferrous 
bicycle into a freezing storm, or worse, my frozen bicycle into a hot 
parking room, a situation I’ll surely be facing. I’ve demanded that they 
put in environmental controls to match the weather outside, but they know 
I’m mostly joking …
-Kai

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:37:36 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:

> Kai, 
>
> Love that clem. Do you commute on that regularly and if so what is your 
> lock-up situation? It looks like it's accumulated some real-world working 
> miles, and I love it. I'm currently commuting on a Rohloff Surly but was 
> thinking about switching over to a clem for that purpose. I lock in an open 
> air parking garage that is tucked out of the way, but that can still be 
> accessed by anyone who happens by, making it not the most secure parking 
> place. I may start up a Riv commuter thread on here to see folks commuters 
> and hear about their parking situations. I'd be interested to see how many 
> of us on here use their Rivs as daily transportation and see pics of those 
> rigs. 
>
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 8:17:26 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Ryan,
>>
>> I love the white grips with your mustard colored Clem.  I once had a 
>> mustard Appaloosa and was never crazy about its color. However, your Clem 
>> has made me change my mind about the color and how the accessories can 
>> really change the look— your Clem is like a well thought out and put 
>> together outfit. 
>>
>> I recently installed light tan ESI grips on my Homer to hopefully match 
>> my head tube, although it turns out that the head tube is more yellowy-tan. 
>> It’s close enough for me although I might go for the aqua color next time 
>> as it’s a fairly close match to my bike frame. 
>>
>> I have the same Ergon white grips as Leah on my mermaid Platy. They were 
>> hard to find and I’m not sure if they’re made any longer. I LOVE her new 
>> grips but I think they might look too heavy on my Platy, which has a more 
>>  lightness vibe. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>> Philadelphia 
>>
>> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:59:34 PM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>>> Two Big Bullmoosed Clems, too! 
>>>
>>> I honestly kind of miss my Ergon style grips on the bullmoose though 
>>> (after those I had were donated to another build.)  I eventually do plan to 
>>> swap my round silicone foam grips at some point but not just yet.  Well 
>>> done with the harlequin wrap and I like the orange fenders too.  I haven’t 
>>> had a fendered bike since moving on from a too small Sports 3-speed.  If I 
>>> do add fenders anywhere it’ll either be on the Clem if I move to a more 
>>> slick tire or my replacement Raleigh that ended up a single speed (if I 
>>> could fit 45mm fenders over the 32mm tires under the long reach calipers).  
>>> I’d still like to build an alternate 700c 3-speed wheel with my AW hub 
>>> collecting dust on the shelf for that Raleigh but just haven’t made it a 
>>> priority yet.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing your new rear rack creation!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_7125_Original.jpeg]
>>>> Big Clems in New Jersey!! 
>>>> I need to rewrap my left grip, but you can’t see it in this photo taken 
>>>> earlier today during one of my rare commutes out to Jersey. Working on a 
>>>> new rear rack for this, but it’s moving slow. Rack makeover soon though…
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 2:50:33 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Finally docu

[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Some day…
Have fun!
-Kai

On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>
>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>
>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>
>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there this 
>>> year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid Platy.
>>>
>>> Cheers-
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddle Height

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Hi Matt, and welcome.
A standard starting height is PBH minus 11. If you’re rocking back and 
forth to keep your feet on the pedals, it’s too high. If it’s not too high, 
maybe it’s too low. Play around.
-Kai

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:46:05 PM UTC-4 Matt wrote:

> Newb here, but long time Rivendell lurker. Chatted to Will today about a 
> Platypus and he mentioned saddle height. My BPH is 83cm (self measured - 
> pretty sure it was to bone but maybe another cm?). Currently riding an 
> ebike, which feels like driving an automatic only worse, so I'm not sure 
> the saddle height is a good indication of what's ideal with a real bicycle. 
> Any thoughts on measuring or extrapolating from PBH? 
>
> btw looking for 55/60cm Platypus, but may well wait for the next stock. 
>
> Lovely group, this. Thanks for the edification.
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from Uptown. 
6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there on 
a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
-Kai
On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on Wednesdays 
> so I thought I’d ask.
> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next week 
> or another day.
>
> stephen
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Okay, got it.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>
>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>
>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from Eastern 
>>>> Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay Greenway 
>>>> around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6:34:51 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For me also, Kissena is a bit out of the way, but I would make it if 
>>>>> everyone else could.
>>>>> Another option is just an informal meet up, say at a beer garden in 
>>>>> Brooklyn, before we organize a ride.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> UWS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Minh  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We're still organizing so anything is up for discussion.  i've done 
>>>>> the ride down to Ft Tilden, its not too bad even tho there are no bike 
>>>>> lanes along Bedford.  Roll n Roaster gives you a free water if you wear 
>>>>> your helmet inside :)
>>>>>
>>>>> in a few weeks once weather and places open up, we could keep riding 
>>>>> pass ft tilden into town.
>>>>>
>>>>> i like the velodrome idea, but we should plan that for later in the 
>>>>> summer and make it big cross group thing, like Battle of the Boroughs
>>>>>
>>>>> as far as getting things going sooner, my proposal would be to keep 
>>>>> things light and loosely organized, so if folks have something planned 
>>>>> e.g. 
>>>>> "riding to brighton beach this weekend for kachapuri anyone wanna come." 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 9:39:10 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a date? I'd be up for something soon-ish but away camping 
>>>>>> and biking in the Gunks this weekend. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One super chill Brooklyn/Queens ride is like is down Bedford Ave to 
>>>>>> Sheepshead Bay and then over the bridge to Fort Tilden. There are a few 
>>>>>> trails through there and semi-private beaches all around. Could pick up 
>>>>>> lunch en route at Roll N Roaster ;-) 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be up for the velodrome, but it sure looks like its a ways out 
>>>>>>> there. who else is up for it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -stephen
>>

Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not numb, maybe 
with drop bars...
-Kai

On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Good Morning All,
> I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at least. I 
> suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st, Greenpoint, around 5-6 
> pm. Not sure where a good ride would be in late afternoon NYC traffic, but 
> we can discuss ideas for future rides depending on when folks are 
> available. I'm thinking tomorrow as meet and greet thing...the beer and 
> sausage selection is excellent. 
> I also think it would be fun to bring a list, written or mental, of 
> parts/bikes wanting to sell/exchange/give away/etc. We all have stuff lying 
> around waiting for a better life. For me, its drop bars.
>
> Let's see a show of hands!
>
> Alan UWS
>
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 11:55:55 AM UTC-4 jakob.b...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Brooklyn Riv riders. I just moved here from San Francisco 3 weeks ago, 
>> game for some rides! Looks like one is in the works next Wednesday, 27th? 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jake/ Mustard Clem H/ Crown Heights
>>
>> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, we can do later on Wednesday. The last meetup was about 3 years 
>>> ago, I think. Maybe more. We were just a handful, and in fact I’ve bought 
>>> and sold a few small items with a couple of them…don’t me ask names! We 
>>> could each bring a mental list of things we want to either buy or sell, 
>>> could be fun.
>>>
>>> Working on the Cheviot. See you next week! Come one come all.
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:11 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently in Beantown, next Wednesday may work, but I’m coming from 
>>> Uptown. 6pm? Brown bags at the top of the Williamsburg Bridge? 
>>> Alan, what year was the last beerhall meet up? Sunnyside Chris was there 
>>> on a righteous Bruce Gordon if I recall.. Maybe I can get my new old Ram 
>>> rolling, and Alan, bring the new Cheviot? 
>>> -Kai
>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 11:30:13 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, sorry for the short notice, but I’m in the area anyway on 
>>>> Wednesdays so I thought I’d ask.
>>>> Let’s all think about next Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Stephen  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Tonight is no good for me either, but I could probably make it next 
>>>> week or another day.
>>>>
>>>> stephen
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
>>>>> thesix...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This week is no good for me as I'm on kid pickup duty in the 
>>>>> afternoons/evenings. Possibly one afternoon/evening next week, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coincidentally, I ran into two separate Riv riders in Williamsburg 
>>>>> yesterday. Joe, who said he isn't on this Group, was on an orange Cheviot 
>>>>> headed to Ridgewood. And while we were stopped chatting, someone on an 
>>>>> orange Sam passed up. Wasn't Chase, but maybe someone else in the Google 
>>>>> Group? Anyway, kinda neat seeing more and more Rivs around NYC. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 9:42:14 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone available tomorrow to meet at the Spritzenhaus 33 in 
>>>>>> Greenpoint? Say 4 or 5ish?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 10:12:13 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>>>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Always up for meeting up for a beer! That's easy. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, Minh - there is a bike lane all the way down Bedford from 
>>>>>>> Eastern Parkway to where it ends at Emmons. And then the Jamaica Bay 
>>>>>>> Greenway around to Floyd Bennett and across the Marine Parkway Bridge. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 6

[RBW] Re: Moderators

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I’m no moderator, but I've come to understand that selling on here 
necessitates that you participates in discussions outside your sale posts. 
Someone might be keeping score, but probably not. If your prices are good, 
I personally hope you get away with a lot of bending. 
Happy Rolling
-Kai
On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:20:10 PM UTC-4 wol...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

> How/when do I become approved to post a "For Sale" posting?

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Clem Smith Jr Build / First ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

“6’1” on a 65 Clem Smith Jr?!”, is what I said to myself in disbelief 﫢, 
but seeing the photo wiped away my fears. To be overly technical, 65s only 
came in H, H as in the top tube was all the way there, and as someone on 
the upper end of the 6’s with a 65 Clem H, I feared for your abrupt stops…
But yeah, photos tell all, and specifically, that’s a 64, and a beautiful 
one at that.
Enjoy!
-Kai

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Howdy all, 
>
> We are in new bike season, and hope to see lots of posts soon! Came across 
> it for sale from a RBW poster this winter. Third hand I think. Since I 
> spent most of my disposable income on it, Ive been doing my best to build 
> it as inexpensively as possible given costs of parts in Canada are 
> outrageous and hard to find, Coops are still difficult to access and short 
> of nicer parts because of shortages. I put my bike snob self aside to build 
> the cheapest possible version keeping to somewhat RIV spirit. 
>
> 65cm frame (im about 6ft 1in) I love the fit. 
> Alex Adventurer 2 rims laced to used XTR disc, and 2nd hand SON disc (my 
> biggest expense) Random recut spokes for budgets. 
> Hand me down Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic
> Brooks ive had for 15+ years 
> Altus rear DR 
> Suntour barcon (doesnt seem to like the spring of the altus) 
> 2x KMC chains - because I guess that is a thing 
> Cheap AVID levers
> Losco Bars, my favorite bar ever. 
> 120mm nitto stem with shim that creaks non stop 
> ALIEXPRESS cranks mimicing the Silver cranks gearing and sprocket guard 
> Cheapest Shimano V brakes 
> AliExpress brake lever converters that I just use as a pulley now 
> ESI grips 
> Odyssey BMX petals 
> Sinkhole Montreal Custom Bar Bag 
>
> The pink parts started off as a joke and because they're spares from a BMX 
> bike project that got canned. Now I am kind of into it. I need to find a 
> cheapish headlight, and would like to splurge on Simworks Flat 65 fenders 
> for when I move back to the coast. 
>
> Once I get some camping trips in I need to decide how to carry camping 
> gear. Front and rear bags only? Front basket and panniers? who knows! half 
> the fun. 
>
> Speaking of fun. I cannot believe how nice this rides. It tracks great at 
> speed, grips well on loose steep climbs, front end stays down during 
> climbing. And in general just so comfortable. I was skeptical going for the 
> 65 frame being only a bit over 6ft. With advice from Will at Riv, I was 
> able to get a good enough estimate to know I'd fit minimally. It's nice 
> having so much leeway to move the bars up and down and a good amount of 
> forward and backwards for leverage and comfort. I honestly just really like 
> this bike. I cant wait to get camping.
>
> [image: PXL_20220530_144915904.jpg]
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Clem Smith Jr Build / First ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

The low is the way to go, here's my 65 high for 
reference- https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
Sturdy bike for sure, rides a lot bier than other 65s out there.
-Kai

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 1:33:55 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> oh! you are right - 64. I think I measured seat tube center to top which 
> is about 65 and it stuck in my brain :) 
>
> The length is only 25mm difference between the 59 and the 64. That was my 
> biggest determining factor, as Will confirmed the seatpost would be able to 
> be low enough to accommodate my PBH. Plenty of room for stopping and 
> jumping off mid climb :) 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 11:22:59 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> “6’1” on a 65 Clem Smith Jr?!”, is what I said to myself in disbelief 﫢, 
>> but seeing the photo wiped away my fears. To be overly technical, 65s only 
>> came in H, H as in the top tube was all the way there, and as someone on 
>> the upper end of the 6’s with a 65 Clem H, I feared for your abrupt stops…
>> But yeah, photos tell all, and specifically, that’s a 64, and a beautiful 
>> one at that.
>> Enjoy!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy all, 
>>>
>>> We are in new bike season, and hope to see lots of posts soon! Came 
>>> across it for sale from a RBW poster this winter. Third hand I think. Since 
>>> I spent most of my disposable income on it, Ive been doing my best to build 
>>> it as inexpensively as possible given costs of parts in Canada are 
>>> outrageous and hard to find, Coops are still difficult to access and short 
>>> of nicer parts because of shortages. I put my bike snob self aside to build 
>>> the cheapest possible version keeping to somewhat RIV spirit. 
>>>
>>> 65cm frame (im about 6ft 1in) I love the fit. 
>>> Alex Adventurer 2 rims laced to used XTR disc, and 2nd hand SON disc (my 
>>> biggest expense) Random recut spokes for budgets. 
>>> Hand me down Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic
>>> Brooks ive had for 15+ years 
>>> Altus rear DR 
>>> Suntour barcon (doesnt seem to like the spring of the altus) 
>>> 2x KMC chains - because I guess that is a thing 
>>> Cheap AVID levers
>>> Losco Bars, my favorite bar ever. 
>>> 120mm nitto stem with shim that creaks non stop 
>>> ALIEXPRESS cranks mimicing the Silver cranks gearing and sprocket guard 
>>> Cheapest Shimano V brakes 
>>> AliExpress brake lever converters that I just use as a pulley now 
>>> ESI grips 
>>> Odyssey BMX petals 
>>> Sinkhole Montreal Custom Bar Bag 
>>>
>>> The pink parts started off as a joke and because they're spares from a 
>>> BMX bike project that got canned. Now I am kind of into it. I need to find 
>>> a cheapish headlight, and would like to splurge on Simworks Flat 65 fenders 
>>> for when I move back to the coast. 
>>>
>>> Once I get some camping trips in I need to decide how to carry camping 
>>> gear. Front and rear bags only? Front basket and panniers? who knows! half 
>>> the fun. 
>>>
>>> Speaking of fun. I cannot believe how nice this rides. It tracks great 
>>> at speed, grips well on loose steep climbs, front end stays down during 
>>> climbing. And in general just so comfortable. I was skeptical going for the 
>>> 65 frame being only a bit over 6ft. With advice from Will at Riv, I was 
>>> able to get a good enough estimate to know I'd fit minimally. It's nice 
>>> having so much leeway to move the bars up and down and a good amount of 
>>> forward and backwards for leverage and comfort. I honestly just really like 
>>> this bike. I cant wait to get camping.
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20220530_144915904.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Clem Smith Jr Build / First ride

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That there's a well worn B Lumotec IQ. It's lit up a lot of paths over 
the years, but my IQ-X is better looking...
-Kai

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> That Clem H is great! Can't wait to get a handful of years of adventure 
> and tape on it. What headlamp are you using? 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:36:18 PM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> The low is the way to go, here's my 65 high for reference- 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/uxqm63W2nB5scvmg7
>> Sturdy bike for sure, rides a lot bier than other 65s out there.
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 1:33:55 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>
>>> oh! you are right - 64. I think I measured seat tube center to top which 
>>> is about 65 and it stuck in my brain :) 
>>>
>>> The length is only 25mm difference between the 59 and the 64. That was 
>>> my biggest determining factor, as Will confirmed the seatpost would be able 
>>> to be low enough to accommodate my PBH. Plenty of room for stopping and 
>>> jumping off mid climb :) 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 11:22:59 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> “6’1” on a 65 Clem Smith Jr?!”, is what I said to myself in disbelief 
>>>> 﫢, but seeing the photo wiped away my fears. To be overly technical, 65s 
>>>> only came in H, H as in the top tube was all the way there, and as someone 
>>>> on the upper end of the 6’s with a 65 Clem H, I feared for your abrupt 
>>>> stops…
>>>> But yeah, photos tell all, and specifically, that’s a 64, and a 
>>>> beautiful one at that.
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy all, 
>>>>>
>>>>> We are in new bike season, and hope to see lots of posts soon! Came 
>>>>> across it for sale from a RBW poster this winter. Third hand I think. 
>>>>> Since 
>>>>> I spent most of my disposable income on it, Ive been doing my best to 
>>>>> build 
>>>>> it as inexpensively as possible given costs of parts in Canada are 
>>>>> outrageous and hard to find, Coops are still difficult to access and 
>>>>> short 
>>>>> of nicer parts because of shortages. I put my bike snob self aside to 
>>>>> build 
>>>>> the cheapest possible version keeping to somewhat RIV spirit. 
>>>>>
>>>>> 65cm frame (im about 6ft 1in) I love the fit. 
>>>>> Alex Adventurer 2 rims laced to used XTR disc, and 2nd hand SON disc 
>>>>> (my biggest expense) Random recut spokes for budgets. 
>>>>> Hand me down Racing Ralph and Nobby Nic
>>>>> Brooks ive had for 15+ years 
>>>>> Altus rear DR 
>>>>> Suntour barcon (doesnt seem to like the spring of the altus) 
>>>>> 2x KMC chains - because I guess that is a thing 
>>>>> Cheap AVID levers
>>>>> Losco Bars, my favorite bar ever. 
>>>>> 120mm nitto stem with shim that creaks non stop 
>>>>> ALIEXPRESS cranks mimicing the Silver cranks gearing and sprocket 
>>>>> guard 
>>>>> Cheapest Shimano V brakes 
>>>>> AliExpress brake lever converters that I just use as a pulley now 
>>>>> ESI grips 
>>>>> Odyssey BMX petals 
>>>>> Sinkhole Montreal Custom Bar Bag 
>>>>>
>>>>> The pink parts started off as a joke and because they're spares from a 
>>>>> BMX bike project that got canned. Now I am kind of into it. I need to 
>>>>> find 
>>>>> a cheapish headlight, and would like to splurge on Simworks Flat 65 
>>>>> fenders 
>>>>> for when I move back to the coast. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I get some camping trips in I need to decide how to carry camping 
>>>>> gear. Front and rear bags only? Front basket and panniers? who knows! 
>>>>> half 
>>>>> the fun. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of fun. I cannot believe how nice this rides. It tracks great 
>>>>> at speed, grips well on loose steep climbs, front end stays down during 
>>>>> climbing. And in general just so comfortable. I was skeptical going for 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> 65 frame being only a bit over 6ft. With advice from Will at Riv, I was 
>>>>> able to get a good enough estimate to know I'd fit minimally. It's nice 
>>>>> having so much leeway to move the bars up and down and a good amount of 
>>>>> forward and backwards for leverage and comfort. I honestly just really 
>>>>> like 
>>>>> this bike. I cant wait to get camping.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: PXL_20220530_144915904.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of 
loc-tite, but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those 
shifters of yours.
Happy shifting!
-Kai

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
> blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
> that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
> you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
> tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
> careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see 
> if that helps with slippage.
> Doug 
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver 
>> shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these 
>> things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall 
>> resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>>
>> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. 
>> I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping 
>> that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using 
>> thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these 
>> shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
>>
>> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. 
>> I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s 
>> has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are 
>> the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should 
>> not slip?? 
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
>>> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
>>> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
>>> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
>>> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
>>> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
>>> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
>>> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>>
>>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from 
>>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
>>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
>>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
>>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>>
>>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>>
>>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
>>> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
>>> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>>>
>>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
>>> Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I 
>>> need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should 
>>> I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>>>
>>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>>> surface. Just Ride.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft. Tilden 
awhile back, with the good graffiti 
That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to do a 
later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to see out 
there, I would understand if that were too late a start

On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that ride!
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:
>
> hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th, so 
> proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to join?  
> Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.  
>  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be willing to 
>> go higher depending on the space, how many other people join, etc. 
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned 
>>> above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
>>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have something 
>>> specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how much they would 
>>> be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in limiting the 
>>> options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations at all.
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel 
>>>> that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>>> -Kai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love that 
>>>>> name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from various eras.
>>>>> To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental space 
>>>>> to set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun with stuff. 
>>>>> Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access via bike. 
>>>>> I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with vise (Yeh), 
>>>>> shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used couch for a 
>>>>> nap, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> UWS
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent 
>>>>>> number!   as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AA-OoyAF6t9ais0HhXzQR8hmOIOKIyUl-pIlOM9bC54/edit#gid=634347005>,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can 
>>>>>> also 
>>>>>> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkHWX27Bqkr2M344BLFUHyptbjKCO81teVqZOeM_-VRhtXZQ/viewform>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Stephen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>>>>>> NY wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not 
>>>>>>>> numb, maybe with drop bars...
>>>>>>>> -Kai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> G