[RBW] Re: I concur on 'like having a new bike'
great build-- I like the big-tired adventure bikes. On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:02:18 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote: Not a rebuild of one of my previous builds, but, I have a 'new-to-me' frame Awhile back, I'd started contemplating another bike build, had been thinking that I'd like a Legolas, but was kinda wanting to push a bit towards more gravel-grinder as opposed to a true race-CX bike I'd pushed the Ram into being more of a rando bike, the Bomba is more of a camping/tourer, so I wanted something simpler, more of a 'monstercrosser', or whatever you want to call it Because of changes I'd already made, I had a cockpit in hand, and a wheelset, pedals, derailleurs, so, things were lined up, just needing a frame Not too long ago, I noticed a particular bike that had come up for sale here; although it was a complete bike, I fired off an email querying about a frame-only; negotiations ensued, and it wasn't long until I had a canti-Rom frame sitting in my bike-stand. I sat on it for awhile, but it fell together quickly once I ordered a saddle for it (was one of the few parts I'd not had lying about). http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/9593993906/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/9637730629/in/photostream/ Went w/ a Clement Explor MSO up front, it's a 700x40 tire; it would be *really* close in the back, so I'm running a smaller Ritchey Speedmax CX 700x35 for now, might go to the smaller MSO later, maybe a Little Big Ben, not sure yet Crank is a Sugino 48x34 on an SKF BB, using a CX70 front derailleur. Rear cassette is a 11-34 XT 9-sp, and a XT SGS derailleur, and using Silver shifters on the downtube. Thin Gripsters. Wheelset was the original set I had on my Ram, 36h Dyads w/ XT hubs from Rich. Normal Brooks B17 and a Nitto two-bolt seatpost. 48cm Noodles and Technomic stem, w/ Tektro levers and interrupters. Paul NeoRetro cantis. Mark's tool roll. Iris cage. Cinelli cork tape (still need to shellac it). And that's about all of it... Nothin' fancy, just a rambler Fun bike, lookin' forward to autumn -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S72O
what an adventure and great pics. I guess it's true: weather's no problem when you have the right clothes (and bike!). On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:58:09 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: The hope was that getting away from the hustle and bustle of our wee town (700 year round residents) with a lot of construction going on would help me recover the quot;brain cushionquot; I'd lost over the past month (for a variety of reasons). My wife dropped me off at the base of Craigs Road (not sure what it's really called, but Craigs Campground is on it) and I rode to the single track 4 miles in. This was to save my brain from the long climb up Ute Pass on Hwy 24 with way too much traffic. After that, it was all amazing single track, with a bit of LCG (lowest common gear: walking), especially with gear for up to five nights (I wasn't sure how long I'd stay in). This is the kind of single track that is sheer fun to ride. Short stretches of smooth easy, mostly either climbing or descending, rooty and rocky. Riding it loaded puts the riding skills to the test! Camped Northwest of Sentinel Peak 12,500ish feet), on the Western tail of Pikes Peak. Rained steadily both nights, but day one and two were rain free. Day three was steady rain for all but 15 minutes. Hilltrek Cotton Analogy once again proves it's worth: riding and hiking and running and never getting wet inside, either from sweat or rain. Beautiful! I returned home via Hwy 24 (descents are much faster and I mostly keep up with traffic, so noise is less of a brain risk). It's always wonderful to return home on my own power, brain cushion greatly increased. I have to say the Sackville bags continue to do wonderfully in the rain. I do not double bag anything and it all stays dry even in day long (or multi-day long rain). Also, Hilltrek's Cotton Analogy gear (jacket, breeches, gators) continue to work beautifully: not wet from sweat or rain -- impressive considering my exertion level returning home and the the precipitation rate. Photos here... http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157635482251165/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Morning ride, Proto-Appaloosa Mystery Bike
It's a mystery alright--- what happened to the other ones? Here's one: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8501/8258574589_c8ff5c75c6_n.jpg I wonder if Riv made any small[er] non-diagatube versions. RCW's getting a super special custom Nobilette-trick-stay/mixte-stay Appaloosa bike, but that special request makes me think that either no small ones were made or were lacking in diagatubes/stays. On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:54:39 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: OK, here’s your Mystery Bike fix: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/9724864903/in/set-72157635480441565 And here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8367710962/in/set-72157630957672582 It’s interesting – Mark Nobilette built 9 (I think) of these bikes, but I’ve never seen pics of any of the others (except Keven’s http://www.flickr.com/photos/49513914@N04/8299057938/in/photolist-dDmQMQ, which I don’t think was one of the nine). *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mc *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 12:47 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Morning ride, Proto-Appaloosa Mystery Bike it's a great shot, but we want to see the mystery bike On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:45:15 AM UTC-5, William wrote: Hey, that IS a cool shot. Good on you for beating down the sluggishness. On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:09:55 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Feeling sluggish lately, so I set the alarm for an early morning jaunt on the Mystery Bike north and west out of Wilmington, along a main corridor (for Delaware, that is) that was mostly devoid of traffic at 5:30 in the morning. Quiet and pleasant riding in the early morning darkness (Who loves dynamo lights? *This *guy!), when I came up over a hill looking out over the lawns at Wintherthur (family estate of a DuPont family member who at one time controlled *both* the DuPont Company *and* General Motors) and saw the sun begin to light the eastern sky. So I pulled out the phone and snapped a pic. Only noticed later, when I uploaded to Flickr, that there were a couple of deer at the top of the ridge; a happy discovery. It was the only picture I took, but I guess it proves the ride happened. 22 miles, chilly morning, sluggish no more! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters
[RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts
Hi Paul, Looks nice. Did you consider a gusseted crotch? or does the current seamless design offer a large range of motion? Is the back cut high enough to prevent plumber's crack? Thanks! Shoji On Monday, September 23, 2013 7:52:57 AM UTC-4, Paul Y wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for some feedback on my pet project - cycling shorts inspired by Grant's writings and also the posts of several on this group. I had my prototype of these shorts made at the tailor's about 3 months ago and have put about a thousand kilometers on them. I have to say I am very pleased, and hope to bring these shorts to market as a custom fitted, made-to-order product. Link to flickr photosethttp://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157635797576895/ Any comments would be greatly appreciated! Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts
Awesome pics, Bill-- Keep scanning On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:50:24 PM UTC-4, bwphoto wrote: Paul- Here are a couple of links to the photos of wool cycling shorts from the '70s. They are from slides I'm slowly scanning so the quality is somewhat iffy in some cases. The first one shows a pair inside out on the back of my bike, you can clearly see the real chamois which would be softened up overnight with chamois fat. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9604243962/in/set-72157630138429316 The next ones show a better shot of fit, they did have some nylon for stretch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/7376786100/in/set-72157630138429316 http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9607325113/in/set-72157630138429316 The last link is to the whole Flickr set where you can see everyone wearing wool even through the desert at 105 degrees. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/sets/72157630138429316/with/9607325113/ The merino wool mix of the shorts were extremely cool in the heat much more than the Lycra currently available. Also my tights were not to different from the Aussie wool ones offered by Riv except they had zipped ankles. You might want to take a look at the construction of some of the baggy mountain bike shorts currently available, many have ventilation built into the design by using a more loosely woven fabric. On Monday, September 23, 2013 10:18:20 PM UTC-5, Paul Y wrote: Many thanks to everyone for all your invaluable feedback, this has been a very encouraging response for me to keep going with this project. Regarding material: The main reason to use a wool blend vs. 100% wool has been that the wool blends are lighter weight to deal with the warm weather here. Since these will be made to order, the purchaser will have a choice in material, and 100% wool could be an option. Generally the blends seem lighter and less prickly than any 100% wool I've seen available here, and still dry fast and resist odor. I know merino could be the ideal 100% wool, but that would make this a much more expensive product. Regarding the sit bone area: I've been wondering what to do about the wear marks, and with this post it seems clear that finding a solution to reinforce that area will be necessary. Because one of the primary objectives are that the shorts look smart, I'm avoiding the more popular synthetic materials for the short, and also don't want to visibly add nylon. Wool seems to get polished by the saddle as shown in the pictures. I am thinking with the next prototype, to try adding elbow patches to the sit bone area. @Lee : What a great DIY photo set you put together; thanks for sharing that. @Shoji : Yes, these have a gusseted crotch, unless we have different understandings of what a guesseted crotch is - there is enough range of movement for the toughest hike-a-bikes I've found here, enough to do yoga even! @Deacon : I'd never come across worsted wool before - thanks I will look into it. @bwphoto : I've never seen these old cycling shorts before. Would you have a photo to share? These shorts seem to work just fine without a chamois, so I am quite certain to keep them chamois-less, as that is pretty much a feature with these! But I am curious about these shorts you used to wear. @Patrick Shoji : Great tip about plumbers crack, I will be sure to get a high back into the next prototype. @Patrick : Thanks for giving me so much information. I'll look at adding an additional rear pocket. You'll be glad to know that the front pockets are deep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sweet - Good Thing
Great bikes-- I love the looks of the Herse crank on the Ram. The chocolate-colored Bomb is sweeet! On Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:52:17 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: Well it's a good thing that no one purchased any of my bikes. I got out on the Quickbeam several times in the last couple of weeks. It rides so nice and was such a joy. I need to do some work on it... attach dyno hub wires better and look into the 700x37 Pasela tires that have been so spectacular on my AHH. I also pout albastach bars on this bike and need to fix tape and one cable housing that is mm's to short and been to lazy to mess with it. Regardless this bike is exceptional and I was crazy to think about selling it even if it doesn't get ridden enough. I had also put up an either or with the Ram and AHH and after having finally got the AHH setup with the Pasela, steel fenders flaps and racks it is perfect and riding sweet as a camera and pub crawl bike. While the RAM is just beyond belief as an event bike / go fast / century / good weather kinda thing though I have to change bar tape one of these days. What was I thinking.. sheesh... I would have shot myself had either of these sold. The AHH http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9953574704/ Has that used look and utlra comfortable. Da RAM http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9692508879/ My go fast bike... just a great ride for fair weather riding. The QB The one I was so intent of half assed getting rid of. I still think it deserves a better home.. just to lazy to work at selling it or giving it away. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9790602044/ My wife the one who is such a saint has indicated that the Atlantis though duplicating much of the Bombadil and AHH was still a good buy for me.. how could I turn that down?? I'll just have to build it up for it's own identity and niche. Even though it was never for sale and won't be since it's my favorite tour bike of all time and since it works so well going down stairs, over curbs and the only one with the double toptube I couldn't let it go.. here it is for bike race photo duty... http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9652180012/ My favorite add ons to date: The Large Saddlesack - I can't speak loudly enough or praise it high enough. Just the perfect bag for me in most situations. The E-Delux Headlight - Even though I have a luxes B I still like the day to day operation and workings of the E-Delux better. Favorite Tires: 700x37 Pasela - just a sweet ride. 700x32 Gran Boise - Makes my go fast fast. :) 700x50 Supreme Evo Series - Almost as flat resistent as the marathon plus without the weight and still gives a quick feeling at 45psi. The rest cranks, bar tape dyno's etc seem to be whatever fits or is there at the time. .. the Sugino triple at 120 bucks has to rate in there for price as does the Shimano bar ends.. I just don't think about them.. much like BMX style platform pedals.. more about bearing life than looks and who makes them. It's all good.. and that's about where I'm at today.. hoping to get another 30 miler in tonight after work. Hope all is well with each of you Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Supplier of quality waxed canvas?
Hi Patrick, Keep asking and answering your questions-- I learn a lot from your posts! (BTW: I think that's a Nitto Mini front rack; I just picked up one of those for my Hunqapillar, too. A great smaller front rack for canti-bikes.) shoji On Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:04:56 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: This past trip my experiment with carrying my food on the front Mark's rack worked out wonderfully. I put the food (relatively small amount per day, as it's one meal a day of butter, beef jerky, and dried potatoes) into the bear-bag and wrap that in a 3'x3' tarp which then doubles as a ground cloth to sit on. Here's a pic of the wrap on the rack: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9980939546/ I would love to have the food be wrapped in waxed cotton canvas, which can then double as a ground cloth. Anyone know a good source for waxed canvas cloth or tarps? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: One day touring
nice write up, Anne. Definitely making the best of it... sounded grand. On Thursday, October 3, 2013 11:06:11 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Just got back from a Pacific Coast tour, Klamath Falls to Los Altos. My friend and I had planned to do the Lost Coast, the dirt part of the northern California Coast from Honeydew south to Usal Road. Sadly, we had a lot of rain, and we decided that the Lost Coast, which would have been a challenge for us in dry weather, would be too difficult in the wet with our smooth tires, so we had to go around it on the often unpleasant section of Highway 1 from Scotia to Leggett. But we got through the unpleasant section, and made it further south. The last THREE times I crossed the Golden Gate Bridge, I vowed I'd crossed for the last time-- it's awful. So this time we routed around it. From Point Reyes, we crossed over to China Camp, and camped there. On a Monday night in late September, or was it early October, the campground at China Camp is gloriously empty. We expected China Camp to Half Moon Bay would be a long day, and even though I live nearby, we'd be riding city streets unfamiliar to me, with a lot of navigation all morning, so we got an early start, leaving just at sunup. As we circled along the quiet morning shoreline of San Pablo Bay, we saw joggers, some turkeys looking for breakfast, but no cars. As we got to San Rafael, more and more commute traffic showed up, but we managed to get through it and, with some help from a kind truck passenger on his way to a construction job, we found the new bike path to the Larkspur ferry. By luck, we arrived just in time to get our tickets and get on the ferry. Oh, and guys-- if you see a 57-year-old woman struggling to carry a loaded touring bike up a steep flight of stairs, it is OK to offer to give a hand. My friend did get some help, from a nice young woman, but the hordes of young men remained glued to their smartphones. One of the best things about the Larkspur ferry is that it takes you to the San Francisco Ferry Building, foodie heaven, a place that overwhelms me with deliciousness. After a stop at Peets Coffee, and a visit to the Cowgirl Cantina for sandwiches for later (Ham and Tam, yum) we crossed San Francisco. The City by the Bay was showing itself off for us, as we rode through Chinatown and past colorful Victorian rowhouses in brilliant sunshine. The route from Lake Merced to Pacifica is tedious, but then we got to the excitement of the day: Planet of the Apes, otherwise known as Old San Pedro Mountain Road, a Manny favorite. Manny showed us a photo essay of the misery of riding Planet of the Apes in the dark and the rain, but we were riding in sunshine. Planet of the Apes the old Highway 1, before they built the road across Devils Slide, that famous road that kept sliding into the ocean every three or four years. My friend and I had done a similar tour a few years ago, and ridden Devils Slide at rush hour. Both of us are very experienced tourists, and he is also a randonneur who has ridden PBP twice, so we're not novices, but we literally thought we were going to die. Never again. Now there is a tunnel through Devils Slide, with a bike lane, so it's reportedly much less dangerous, but nevertheless we were excited at routing around it. Planet of the Apes is AWESOME. It was a road, but it's now a trail, with remnants of asphalt, that winds up and around chaparral-covered hills. In the early afternoon, with plenty of time to enjoy the ride, we picked our way through the potholes, the dirt, and the washouts. Every time we thought we'd reach the top, we discovered we had to climb the next ridge. But eventually it was down, down, down to the ocean. Somehow we had still air on Planet of the Apes but when we got back to Highway 1 a stiff tailwind was blowing, something we had been sorely missing for the previous days of the tour. We barely had to pedal to get to our campsite at Half Moon Bay. Gorgeous day, wonderful trip. My Atlantis performed flawlessly as usual. P.S. China Camp will make a great Jamboree location. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Aspen Gold 3-day trip
great pics, Patrick. Frost already, huh... it's been a balmy week here in Boston! On Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:48:41 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: As my wife reminded me upon my return, I've been trying to get out and immerse myself in Colorado's glorious aspen colors for over five years, but my brain or daughters births prevented it. Not this year! The spot will look familiar to you if you've been gracious to view other trips -- but not these colors. Wow. Visual symphony of color. Glowing gold and orange with brilliant deep blue sky above and deep rich evergreen dappled around and behind with grasses of tan and rust all combine to delight the eye and feed the soul. I base camped, having a lazy ride in as my family hiked in (more technical than they all like to ride -- yet) to spend the day with me before they departed back home (we don't yet have gear for everyone for the 20˚F nights). They departed in the late afternoon of day one and I settled in for a few days of solitude and brain cushion recovery. Day 2, I woke at dawn, though the sun would still be 2 hours peaking over the hill (what I get for camping on the west side of a 14,000 peak!). My choices were to be lazy in my warm bag or get up and ride myself warm. I rode. Climbing that next ridge will always warm you up! Once I couldn't ride up the steep trail of Sentinel, I tied off the Hunqapillar and hoofed it the rest of the way to the tundra. Amazing views of the Sangre de Cristo and Collegiante ranges, as well as Lost Creek Wilderness, and South Park. After returning to my bike, I felt good so headed to Horsethief Falls, getting back to camp about 5pm. Standard day's food for dinner of beef jerky, butter, and dried potatoes. Day three: a leisurely breakdown of camp as I wanted things to thaw/dry before I hauled out extra weight, then up and over the three ridges before the trail ended and I rode Edlow road and Hwy 24 back home. Amazing trip and my brain has a bit more cushion again! We'll see if the snow allows more overnight trips or not this year. My second eldest daughter had a blast taking photos of me riding, and she has a real artistic eye emerging. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157636166222556/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Century!
congrats, Tony. That's a great accomplishment, and nice weather for the ride. On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:57:42 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Not on my Atlantis but I'd argue that my 650B Trek is heavily Riv'd in setup. I took advantage of the Gov't shutdown last week to take off on a long ride. I didn't set out convinced I would attempt a full century, in fact my only goal was to exceed my previous long distance ride of around 50 miles. But at about the 25ish mile point I realized that the weather was great, the bike was handling good, my body felt right (at the time), and I really didn't have anything I needed to be home for that night. So I decided I'd push on to the end of the WOD Rail Trail, having picked it up at its beginning in Shirlington, VA. I ended up dealing with pretty persistant hamstring cramping from about mile 35 on but was able to ride through it. I stopped alot to rest and take in view's where they were and struck up a couple good conversations with fellow furloughed riders out enjoying the day. I even had a Riv-Spotting, running into Mary of the Chasing Mailboxeshttp://chasingmailboxes.com/blog on her sweet orange Moonbeam. One dissapointment for me was the Selle An Atomica saddle, I guess it's just not going to be the right saddle for me. I avoided any numbness issues but was feeling significant pressure in my 'sit bones' the whole ride. I initially thought that was a pretty good tradeoff given that I was able to complete the long day in the saddle. But the next day I discovered not just saddle sores but actual bruising corresponding to both sit bones and even a week later I'm still recovering from them. This definitely wouldn't work on a multi-day tour for me. I think I just need a wider saddle and I probably will probably try out a Brooks Flyer, I've got a B67 which I like but have found it to be less comfortable at 30+ miles. The other lesson learned related to bike handling, I discovered mulitple times in high speed descents that there is a point where the bike develops a wicked shimmy to the point of becoming a front and rear shimmy. Based on my weight (250lbs) and the relatively thin tubes I'm not really suprised, also the 650b conversion is probably contributing. I don't really feel like its a deal breaker, more a good discovery of one of the 'edges of the envelope' for this bike. The list of positives is far longer though; -Doubled my previous long ride -Used the drops for the first time and actually liked it -Noodle bars with cotton over inner tubes was fantastically comfortable, no issues with my hands throughout the ride (I did put on gloves at the turnaround) -Discovered the ability to ride through the pain of the cramps -Had somewhat random bursts of really strong riding even late into the day -Front basket with 'bungie net' was extremely versatile and the best 'gadget' of the ride -I ate every 10-20miles in small quantities and never really 'bonked' -Great views of the VA countryside especially past Herndon Pictures prove it happened... http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2013/10/shutdown-solo-century.html Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stolen Romulus In Sacramento?
That is awesome... I hope the Rom gets back to its owner. On Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:56:16 AM UTC-4, Rick Houston wrote: Funny thing happened today: got a call from a good friend who was visited a LBS here in Sac when a tweaker came by and said he had a bike for sale; turned out to be a Riv Romulus, my friend offered him $50 for it, the gentleman said the pedals were worth more than that, my friend countered with Fifty dollars and you can have the pedals, and that was that. All we have to do now is find out who owns it! My friend called Riv to see if they could trace the owner, and they're still working on it, but I thought I'd see if anyone on the forum knows of someone who's missing a bike. If you do, send me a complete description of the build and the size, and we'll go from there. It's a really nice bike, and it would be cool to re-unite it with its owner. Wish us luck! Rick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 50mm tires
Hi Hugh, I've been riding Big Bens on my Hunqapillar (48cm takes 26 wheels) for the past several months, and probably ridden ~1,000 miles. I got them from Riv, mounted to Aeroheat rims, and they measure just over 52mm now. You can find picks on the Flickr group. I mainly ride them on the pot-holed streets of Cambridge (plenty of glass and other debris), though they've seen some dirt roads/paths and plenty of tree-root bumps. I've not experienced any flats, and the side walls look good. The tread in the center contact area is showing a little wear, but not excessive. I'm ~155#, and I've jumped curbs and been practicing bunny hops. That said, I've ridden Jack Brown Greens on the same roads and trails, and haven't flatted, so I don't think no flats is necessarily meaningful. Also, we're fortunate not to have goat heads to contend with over here. I would recommend the Big Bens as a good all-rounder tire. For my commuting needs, I'm interested in the Compass 26 tires. (Big Bens don't feel slow, but I'd like to try a lighter weight tire... love the JB Greens on 700C.) Congrats on the Atlantis. Looking forward to seeing it set up. Shoji On Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:59:23 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: I'm waiting on delivery of a new to me 56 cm Atlantis and have been wondering what tire to go with? First I'm looking for an all round mixed terrain tire that has plenty of cushion and rolls fairly well. I've liked the idea of running the Big Ben's as Schwalbe states they have a bit more tread then the Big Apples and would be good for mixed terrain surfaces, just don't know about their puncture resistance and wear? Also I'd really like to to run the 2.15 effectively 55 mm's (If I'm not careful I may talk myself into picking up a Bomba or Hung) but if I ran fenders am concerned about clearance. For serious off road I may run the Marathon Plus MTB tires in either 1.75 or the 2.10 obviously with out fenders. What about the Marathon Modials does anyone have experience with these? I know that Patrick will recommend Furious Freds with Stan's and I may very well go that route, but just the same I'd like some other feedback on just a good AR tire tube combo. And Chris not trying to hijack your post just figured I'd throw in some more questions regarding tire selection rather than clog up the list-serve with another post on roughly the same topic. And congrats on picking up the Trek 820 I almost went that route but the Atlantis fell into my lap and the Trek 850 hangs from the rafters for now. ~Hugh On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:25:27 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: I finally have a bike that will take 50mm tires (1995 Trek 820). I bought this bike as a test vehicle for 26 wheels, which I've never ridden before, but am interested in on a high dollar bike. My first inclination is to go with 50mm Big Apples but Schwalbe makes several other tires in the 50mm size with the Supreme being of particular interest. Is the 50mm Big Apple significantly cushier than the 50mm Supreme? Is it the width or is there something different about the design of the Big Apple that makes it more comfortable. The tires will be primarily for pavement and I want as light and slick as possible with max comfort. The Supreme wins in the light slick category but I don't know if it is as comfortable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro brake setup
Have you tried the spring tension adjustment screw? It's located on both arms of the cantilever brake-- I saw my LBS do it on another bike. (I've not had a centering problem with the 720s. Brake squeal OTOH) On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:29:31 PM UTC-4, Robert Barr wrote: Michael - I am surprised at your problems with the 720s. My 720s set up easier than any canti's I have used, and I bought them at the recommendation of a friend that had just put them on two bikes. I haven't used Paul's, but compared to the Dia Compe and Shimano's that I have experience with, the 720s were great. Self- centered with just a nudge as Garth mentions, and then I tightened the carrier - never budged. My experience may be unique, unlike a number of the comments you have received, I like the adjustability of the Tektro carrier so much I bought another set to see if they would held me adjust the always frustrating Dia Compe's on my wife's MB3. They worked great. The diverse experiences of the group with the 720s remind me again why we have the range of components that we do - something for everyone. Good luck! On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: When you say you haven't had any trouble, do you mean the brakes self centered or you found a simple work around? What is it? I started with their hanger and then tossed it out and bought a Paul's moon unit. Same result - one brake rubs while the other sits far away. Putting one spring in the top hole on the post helped somewhat. I beginning to think the springs themselves must have a lot of variability. Michael On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:01:53 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: Haven't had any troubles with them. As others have noted, I used a different hanger and Avid Tri-dangle straddles as opposed to the stock ones, as I found the small hex cable bolts easier to manage than the wrench bolts. The brakes themselves are pretty good, geometrically, aesthetically and function-wise. Nice value. KJ On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:54:52 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: I tried the 720's on my Bombadil and had no problem setting them up in a jiffy. there is nothing wrong with the brakes themselves, it's only the stock hanger that is worthless. Just use a regular ol' hanger, the basic ones . If you don't have one handy, any bike shop worthy of being called one should have them new or in the parts bin. I have used canti's since the early 80's and have found the small, basic cable carriers work best. The wider one's are not better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
Here's a nice, clean wiring job by somervillebikes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/9401478506/ He used shrink tubing (pre-shrunk before attaching) and glued pieces to the fork as guides for the wire. His photostream shows how he guided the wire under the fender using aluminum tube guides. He's done collaborative projects with JP Weigle-- attention to detail, no doubt. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:34:31 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote: I've used the spiral wire wrap that's sold at Radio Shack and similar places to hold wires onto the brake cable housing. This works best when you use full cable housing, but it could also work on a bike with cable stops. Not the most elegant solution, but it gets the job done. Spiral wire wrap is available in colors so you can coordinate with the frame or cable housing: [image: image.jpeg] --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Oct 16, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Chris citrow...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The racers tape I bought online was a disappointment. It would not stick to the frame. I'm not sure if I bought the wrong stuff, a bad batch, or I need to clean and prep the frame tubes better prior to application. If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. Dynamo wires bug me! Chris On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:34:15 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: I also used racer's tape to attach my wire from my headlight to the taillight. I like the idea of using it to protect the head tube from cable rub and chainstay nicks too. Toshi in Oakland On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Steve yng...@yahoo.com wrote: 36 ft of helicopter tape...that's a lot of tape. Useful for protecting other parts of the bike as well...chain stay protector, head tube protector, use it on the top tube to protect against the exposed brake cable. Probably can sell some here as well... On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: ISO 1 Bar-end Cork Grip
If you're handy or know someone who is, I think you can cut off the end and add a groove for the cable. (It sounds like you have a J-tek shifter for your Alfine?) On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:29:34 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: I have an Alfine setup on my bike and wanted to go to cork grips. I have a pair of regular non-barends cork grips from Rivendell. I am throwing out a net to see if anyone has one bar-end style grip they would want to trade/sell. I know its a long shot but I thought I would give it a go before I buy two pairs to get the one pair I want. Thanks either way. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 1 Bar-end Cork Grip
Just occurred to me-- how about calling Riv and asking if you can get one of each? On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:11:14 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Yeah, I have the J-Tek shifter. I do have a dremel tool but not the steadiest hands...could be a recipe for disaster, haha. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: If you're handy or know someone who is, I think you can cut off the end and add a groove for the cable. (It sounds like you have a J-tek shifter for your Alfine?) On Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:29:34 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: I have an Alfine setup on my bike and wanted to go to cork grips. I have a pair of regular non-barends cork grips from Rivendell. I am throwing out a net to see if anyone has one bar-end style grip they would want to trade/sell. I know its a long shot but I thought I would give it a go before I buy two pairs to get the one pair I want. Thanks either way. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Appaloosa 58.7 Web Special but...
Hi Jeff, $3,500 is the starting price for a custom bike. If/when the Appaloosa goes into production, it'll cost less. But probably not much less-- IIRC, the Bombadil is available as a semi-custom, and runs $3,000. The Bombadil was billed as spare-no-expense, whereas the Hunqapillar is the budgeted version at $2,000. I'm guessing the tentacular stays add a lot of extra work to the build, hence $, so more than a Hunqapillar and towards the cost of a Bombadil (depending on special details). I don't think there will be enough sales volume for savings from economies of scale (not really characteristic of Riv bikes, anyway). Shoji On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:15:37 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote: I know this one's a leftover from the prototype run, but does anyone have any insider intel on whether or not $3.5K will end up being the street price for a production frame? I'd bother Riv directly, but I'm sure they'd rather hear from somebody who's got a credit card in their hand. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New to me, Sam Hilborne coming soon.
Congratulations, Thomas, and happy riding. Give it a go with the drops for awhile... it may work great for you. (Besides, how could you not hop on and ride when the big box arrives?) Shoji On Friday, October 18, 2013 1:50:09 PM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: The demo Sam Hilborne was up on the Riv site this morning and I bought it. Should be here in about two weeks and I am pretty excited. I have never bought a bike I have never sat on before, so this is a test and a little nerve racking. I will post photos when it arrives and after I modify it slightly with parts I have on hand. It comes with drop bars and silver bar end shifters, which will be changed out to Albatross bars and Dura Ace bar ends. I also have Hetre tires that will be swapped out. Porteur rack and basket will be added for functionality. This bike will be used for leisure rides with my wife who has her Betty Foy. I have officially entered the RBW Owners Bunch with my own Rivendell!! Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Appaloosa 58.7 Web Special but...
I've been itching to try one-- did they make any Mystery bikes on the small size? (Riders ~5'6?) I'd imagine no diagatube and no tentacular stays. I'm eagerly awaiting the RCW Custom Appaloosa to check out how those features look on a small bike. But the important part not captured in pics is the ride... On Friday, October 18, 2013 1:44:51 PM UTC-4, Bryan wrote: I pedaled around a little on one at RBW in Walnut Creek, and it was great. The ride was cushy and dignified, but there was nothing lame or sluggish or dorky about it in the slightest. I'd ride a bike like that anywhere. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa 58.7 Web Special but...
Hi Pudge, I'm guessing that your proto-loosa's chain stays are longer than 47.5cm-- my 48-cm Hunqapillar has 46 cm chain stays. It looks from your Flickr pics that the chain stays are ~same length as the seat tube. The 58.7 cm appaloosa on the Riv site now seems also to have ~same chain stay and seat tube lengths--- so I'd guess more like 58 cm... (Wow!) IIRC, an earlier protovelo version had shorter chain stays than the bike that was finally built/delivered. I could just be making this up. Anyway, I'm sorta glad I'm wyy too short for the proto-loosa, because I'd otherwise be negotiating with my better half to buy it. Shoji On Saturday, October 19, 2013 9:44:59 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: Sure, what do you want to know? The only thing I've ever measured are the Brobdingnagian chain stays, which if I remember correctly are 47.5 cm. But I can measure whatever you want, and offer the matching datapoint that the bike is a wonderful fit for me (~86 pbh). On Oct 19, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Perry bob...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Pudge, that's what I figured. Btw, since you have one, can you tell us anything about the sizing of this bike? • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Family bike adventure
Terrific, Peter. Time, energy, money all well spent.I picked up a craigslist piccolo and tried it for a spin up and down the block with my 3.5yo son. His legs are too short for the pedals, but I think we'll be all set by spring. (Maybe I'll rig some foot-rest pegs or something...) Shoji On Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:32:38 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Not many trips that we can all go on together, my 7 year old daughter has more heart than legs but when she asked to do a 25 mile round trip to toys r us instead of sitting on a smelly nyc bus I jumped at the idea. I rode the bombadil with her burly piccolo attached, my wife rode her MB2. Everyone did amazing, weather was great and Cali got toys at the store. We got lots of compliments on the bomba/piccolo pairing. Only one pic, too busy having a fun ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
Good luck, Grant and all! It looks great, wish I were closer to see it in person. On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:43:51 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: It's a beautiful space. Maybe it's the barista in me but I think if you added a little latte machine and some stools it would be a great spot to drink coffee and talk bikes. On Oct 25, 2013 12:42 AM, LeahFoy jonasa...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Wow, it is so beautiful! I feel like I'm being transported back to a simpler, happier time - like my childhood romps through the woods. I hope that magic rubs off into your customers...and their wallets! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Can you install a wider bottom bracket? You can get a Shimano UN55 square taper 68 x 127.5 on Amazon.com for ~$20. That'll increase the Q-factor (quite a bit, if you're currently using 113). shoji On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:07:13 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: The Ultegra on the Paul Taylor is a triple. Heh...the BMX pedals on the Paul Taylor are Zefals I got at Walmart for $20 or so. I hate Walmart, but there I was in the store puttering around and I found these pedals that had buttery smooth sealed bearings. I couldn't believe it. All the other pedals had bearings that felt like a cobblestone street. So I bought them. When I got them home, I realized they were 1/2 inch thread. Oops. I found some 1/2 to 9/16 adaptors I had sitting around and I put them on. Cycling nirvana. Who knew? Believe me I don't really want to spend two minutes thinking about q factor. I just want the pedals to end up being wider, whatever it takes. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Is the Ultegra double or triple ? I can't imagine it would be much different in Q than the Carmina. Also, what kind of BMX pedals are using with the Ultegra, and what kind of pedals with the Carmina. I use Wellgo MG-1's , which are about as wide a BMX style pedals as you're going to find @112 mm . FWIW ... I used to think about Q factor alot. I got tired of thinking about ! So I told myself forget about it. I realized it was me, not my knees that was fussy. Body follows mind. Forget about what ? ... Exactly ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Good point in chain line! On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:31:22 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: Wider bottom bracket will just throw the chain line off, so I wouldn't go that route. I think the Kneesavers aren't that bad of an idea. It will be $45.00 well spent in my opinion. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Can you install a wider bottom bracket? You can get a Shimano UN55 square taper 68 x 127.5 on Amazon.com for ~$20. That'll increase the Q-factor (quite a bit, if you're currently using 113). shoji On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:07:13 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: The Ultegra on the Paul Taylor is a triple. Heh...the BMX pedals on the Paul Taylor are Zefals I got at Walmart for $20 or so. I hate Walmart, but there I was in the store puttering around and I found these pedals that had buttery smooth sealed bearings. I couldn't believe it. All the other pedals had bearings that felt like a cobblestone street. So I bought them. When I got them home, I realized they were 1/2 inch thread. Oops. I found some 1/2 to 9/16 adaptors I had sitting around and I put them on. Cycling nirvana. Who knew? Believe me I don't really want to spend two minutes thinking about q factor. I just want the pedals to end up being wider, whatever it takes. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Ultegra double or triple ? I can't imagine it would be much different in Q than the Carmina. Also, what kind of BMX pedals are using with the Ultegra, and what kind of pedals with the Carmina. I use Wellgo MG-1's , which are about as wide a BMX style pedals as you're going to find @112 mm . FWIW ... I used to think about Q factor alot. I got tired of thinking about ! So I told myself forget about it. I realized it was me, not my knees that was fussy. Body follows mind. Forget about what ? ... Exactly ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Fall = fenders
red and cream-- that's a beautiful bike. On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:20:37 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: I finally mounted fenders to my Riv last night. Looking pretty classy, but I need to tweak the fender line. The front is especially tricky; I think I need to bend down the top of the crown mount to clear the headset; like in the Riv install video. The cream Longboards go well with the headtube and graphics. Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA '97 Rivendell Road Standard (Reynolds 753, 531 fork) Nitto moustache bars, Silver bar-ends, Cane Creek SC5 levers (gum) Brooks Flyer with Carradice Nelson 50/40/30 Campy triple crank on Phil BB 9 speed 11-32 cassette with Microshift derailer Shimano A530 Campus pedals with Riv spikes 650x38B Grand Bois Lierre on Zac19 rims, Deore hubs SKS Longboard fenders Nitto Mark's rack with medium Wald basket https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9As8KegRZbE/Unu0UfOBPJI/AQs/VTKooOsgjCw/s1600/PB060492.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fall = fenders
Thanks for the explanation, Bill. I'm filing this away for future reference. On Thursday, November 7, 2013 3:36:08 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Best of luck with it. Your bike looks terrific all the same On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:32:04 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: Bill- Thanks for the advice. I need to pick up a couple M6 bolts (and a better method to attach the fender at the chainstay bridge) at the hardware store and I'll give it a try. I can see how they would help you get the fender as high as possible. Unfortunately, that won't let me step up from Lierres to Hetres; the Hetres don't fit horizontally. I have just about 1.5mm between the tire sidewalls and the fork legs, chain-, and seatstays. The Riv Road Standard geometry says it'll fit 700x35C tires, but mine barely fits 700x28C (short reach brakes), hence the desire for 650B. Tim On Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:24:00 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: Tim Sheldons nuts on bikes with caliper brakes can get the fender just a tiny bit higher under the brake and fork crown. On the front, you can only get the fender as high as the slot of that little L-bracket allows. Yes you have to bend the tip to clear the headset bottom cup, but also you'd have to dremel it out to get the fender high enough to hit the real limit which is the brake caliper itself. Run the same fender on the sheldon nut and you are a couple inches further back (correct) but that also puts you a few precious mm further UP. So you can run the fender a little bit closer to the caliper. On the rear, it's a similar thing, to a lesser extent. That precious couple of mm is useful if you want the 10mm everywhere of clearance that many recommend. For some that may make the difference between stopping at Lierres (like I have done), or going all the way to Hetres. The fender install can also be completely decoupled from the brake adjustment, by using the Sheldon nut, which just simplifies things a little. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?
crazy bike-handling skills! On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:10:14 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: I feel exhausted! If I was looking to purchase a used Carbon Pinarello I certainly would not want his :-) ~Hugh On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:26:08 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: My mild mannered math teacher daughter sent this link to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmJtYaUTa0sns=em Even non-steel bikes can take a bit of abuse. Really a fun watch. Enjoy! dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT (totally): really? you can do THAT on a racing bike?
Yes, I remember seeing that one, too. I cringe when the frame crumples after the first [high!] jump/drop, and love how he then welds in a diagatube. Shouldn't the rider be wearing a helmet? :) On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:30:11 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's the one! Proving you don't need a carbon firbre road bike to be awesome! Thank you internets! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM, tarik saleh tarik...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: David, mixte flipping: http://velocanoose.blogspot.com/2012/02/mixte-flipping.html Tarik On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: At the 2:18 mark it looks like he has some decent sized tires on there. Not 23mm!!! Anybody know the link to that guy that was doing trials on an old beat up mixte? I was looking for that but can't find it. That is a great one as well. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: crazy bike-handling skills! On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:10:14 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: I feel exhausted! If I was looking to purchase a used Carbon Pinarello I certainly would not want his :-) ~Hugh On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:26:08 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: My mild mannered math teacher daughter sent this link to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmJtYaUTa0sns=em Even non-steel bikes can take a bit of abuse. Really a fun watch. Enjoy! dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Waitin' on my Riv--debating on Drops versus Albatross
If you use bar-end shifters, and you're switching to/from bars that accommodate, then you can do so without needing cable splitters or even additional bar ends. Here's a tutorial (not mine-- I used this to move from moustache to albatross): http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ I think some versions of thumbies, can be moved from handlebar to handlebar without problems... but some can't. If your bike has canti brakes, then buy an extra set of straddle hangers. BTW: there are locking spacers. Problem Solvers makes them. I think they also make locking cable hanger/spacers. --shoji On Monday, November 18, 2013 1:03:32 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Get one of each. Install those quick cable splitters and you can switch any time you like ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman ketchup
I've gone through all of these posts, and it's quite amusing! Now Grant will have to source some sugar-less ketchup from the farmers market so that we can buy some for the holidays. Bike Book and Ketchup anyone? On Monday, November 25, 2013 5:00:07 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm sure it did. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:26:42 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I just ate a snickers bar to see if it tasted right, yup it was delicious. ;-) On Nov 25, 2013 4:24 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 11/25/2013 04:13 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: What do you think a nutritive carbohydrate sweetener is? It's *sugar*! Sugar is a nutritive carbohydrate sweetener, but it is not the only one. Others include include glucose, fructose, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, and sugar alcohols (e.g., sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol), according to the Britannica. One or any combination of two or more of the following safe and suitable ingredients in each of the following categories is added to the tomato ingredients specified in paragraph (a)(1) of this section: (i) Vinegars. (ii) Nutritive carbohydrate sweeteners. Such sweeteners if defined in part 168 of this chapter shall be as defined therein. (iii) Spices, flavoring, onions, or garlic. Combing the verbiage with a fine-tooth comb I conclude that per the standard, nutritive carbohydrate sweetener is in fact a required ingredient. You may say that one can leave out the sugar, and it will still legally qualify as ketchup. Apparently so, but it is not going to taste like ketchup. AFAIK federal standards of identity prescribe what must be in a product, but not what it is supposed to taste like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendale Hunqapillar Re-finish powder coat completed
Great color and price! On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:09:27 PM UTC-5, David Rainey wrote: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NMq3cEI96So/UpY0pFT32XI/ARw/rCmd_zTJ06c/s1600/IMG_7190.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G8Eh7k7xq9U/UpY0uJdo0DI/AR4/9OlvO-45uY0/s1600/IMG_7191.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qvOzjr_1cbw/UpY0zoypHII/ASA/ra2u8KrplA0/s1600/IMG_7217.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sTRmzwKo4lo/UpY06SUsm1I/ASI/yJeA7sxbndk/s1600/IMG_7218.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JrTOIDlOXnc/UpY0_tn0O8I/ASQ/WWgXqaldP_o/s1600/IMG_7197.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z2ADz2x5i3A/UpY1Dr_UAYI/ASY/IaIONyPsOQs/s1600/IMG_7205.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZFRJ5nRgga8/UpY1MdmFksI/ASg/qiIhEQBLigA/s1600/IMG_7197.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5GCvBiDVINs/UpY0isjb1-I/ARo/eRsrSYuGdxg/s1600/IMG_7185.JPG Hello, I thought some of you guys might find this of interest. We are a specialty shop that specializes in the refinishing, restoration and frame modification of bicycles. We had a recent customer send us his RBW Hunqapillar frame for a refinish. He was not unhappy with the stock green/cream but since this frame was going to see some heavy duty touring he wanted the durability of a powder coat finish along with a color a bit more subdued. This frame was stripped and coated in a Charcoal Black Metallic and then a lower gloss clear coat was applied. Total cost for the refinish was 150.00. IT is a great frame. We see all makes and models of frames come through the shop and we are always proud to work on a RBW project. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar As True Mountain Bike?
I love this (Thanks, BB!): ride the elephant through the forest... go shred on your Hunq. I have a set of bullmoose bars in the shed, and I'll be setting up Davinci splitters to fast swap with the Noodles. But who am I kidding-- it's a commuter and family hauler for me right now. (And great one at that.) That said, check out CNYRIV's, Deacon Patrick's, and Cosmic Country's Flickr sets-- lots of mountain action. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:02:34 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Ah, but who's to judge what a true mountain bike is? As the late William Nealy pointed out in his book, The Mountain Biking Way of Knowledge (a must-own for every 'true' mountain biker), the Vietnamese have been riding bicycles on the Ho Chi Minh trail for decades... and I'm sure these were Flying Pidgeons, not StumpJumpers. I say a bike is defined by how far you're willing to take it. I have a so-called mountain bike (that frankly sucks as an all-around or commuter)... it's geared too low and the geometry is best suited for rough terrain at slow speed, yet I'm sure there are people who ride this same bike to work... so does that NOT qualify it as a commuter??? I say ride the elephant through the forest... go shred on your Hunq. Peace, BB On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:43:18 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: I was wondering if anyone was using their Hunq as a true mountain bike? By which, I mean, no racks, fenders or bags.While it is a very versatile frameset, does anyone use theirs only in off road scenarios? If yes, what are your thoughts on what it does well and maybe (shudder) what it does not do well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Redo
Beautiful. When you wrote rattle can paint job, I was expecting something else entirely. (Based on my skills, it would look like... rattle can paint job.) Enjoy the ride, and don't let the cold keep you inside. On Friday, December 6, 2013 2:12:53 AM UTC-5, Ken Yokanovich wrote: Sometimes projects drag on a bit longer than desired. This one started in July and the whole assembly and final parts selection is still in process. Impatient, I threw on some parts so that I could get it out during the Thanksgiving weekend for a bit of a ride. Glad I did because the weather has now turned to full winter, 0 degrees right now and a good amount of snow on the ground. I had Eric Noren at Peacock Groove add a kickstand plate and mid-fork braze-ons in early July. I also had him face the dropouts and all of the braze-ons with stainless washers. Realizing that I had precious little time to get a paint job on it in time for a late July tour, I gave it a REALLY ugly rattle can paint job at the time so that I could go on RAGBRAI. Over the period of August and up until Thanksgiving I took my time and attempted to do a better job with the paint. I have a much greater appreciation for just how difficult it is to paint a bicycle! I had high aspirations for fancy paint work and contrasting headtube. Reality sunk in quickly and I justified the single-color decision. I figured that by the time I get racks, fenders, and all the parts mounted there will be enough going on that one color might be best anyhow. :) 2 coats of primer, 3 base coat, and several clear. Enough clear over the decals to make them almost smooth with the surface of the paint. I ran out of paint and then out of clear... My outdoor paint booth was subject to occasional moisture issues and had very limited hours of operation as the days grew shorter this fall. Then cooler temperatures complicated the difficulty of getting the clear to flow out smoothly. I ordered my paint through AutomotiveTouchup based on the color of an automobile. The color didn't turn out 100% the way I had envisioned. I was hoping for more of a black-cherry color, but the red-color only shows up in the sunlight. Other times and lighting it almost looks like a green or blue. Lots of sanding, wet sanding, then polish to get me to the point where I am quite pleased with the results. Pics or it doesn't exist, right...? http://www.flickr.com/photos/31359238@N06/sets/72157638215050844/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/31359238@N06/sets/72157638215050844/ -- Ken Yokanovich Roseville, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Just Got Our English Riding Jackets
Congrats, Liesl! It'll be great to see you on your Proto-palloosa custom with riding jacket and hatchet. Remember Manny's rule-- pics or didn't happen. :) On Thursday, December 5, 2013 6:37:30 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: Hi Friends, Sorry to have been out of the loop for a while. Dang life! Anyway, I just got legally married (oh my goodness; never thought I'd see the day) and my partner and I gave each other what we now refer to as The Nuptial English Riding Jackets to each other as wedding gifts. It was going to be watches, but then we saw the Swedish Riv Snaps and it was all over; decision made in a snap (sorry; couldn't resist). Anyway, they came at the beginning of the week and then it dumped snow and got real cold. Here's my quick review: light. water beads up on it like crazy (have been in light rain and snow). toggles are great one-handers; maybe even mitten-handers. orange zippers are totally sporty. collar configuration is nice; room for a neck gaitor/small scarf but not too big as to let in wind and rain. A medium fits erin, who is 5'10, and me, who is 5'2 but a bit thicker about the middle. It's more flattering on Erin but fine on me; not too crazy big although a small might've been better but wasn't an option. We both can fit a down sweater under it. It was *perfect* for shoveling wet snow. I do not miss having a hood but then again I live in hats. We feel a bit silly wearing them both at the same time. We are a titch embarrassed that we spent the money for two jackets but in no way regret it. And afterall, they *are* Nuptial Jackets. We think they will be utterly fantastic on our trip to New Zealand to visit my family both on and off bicycles. I am pretty sure that it will become beloved over a long long time and will be a 4-season garment, which is saying a lot for Minnesota. Verdict? Yep! Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Which bike gets the winter tires?
Hi Tony, I've been winter bike commuting for a few years now in the Boston area. I use Nokian A10(?) studded tires (700X32) on my crosscheck. I meant to set it up as a single speed for the winter season, but was caught this past week without having done the conversion. Instead, I swapped tires from JB Greens to the studded ones when I realized the rain mix was going to change to snow/ice. My biggest concern for winter commuting is ice. The roads for my ride are plowed, and even in heavy snow fall, the snow's not too deep to ride (maybe a few inches). I've found the Nokians to cut through the snow and slush to the road, and that works for my commute. I don't think a fat bike's flotation would offer an advantage. I prefer a dedicated snow/ice bike, as the salt+dirt really wears on the drive train. I'm also not very good at wiping it down after a ride, as, well... it's cold and I'm lazy. When the snow clears, there's usually stretches of days or even weeks when the roads are free of salt, and I can then take out the nice bike (w/o being as concerned of corrosion). If I had your stable of bikes, I would outfit the MB-5 or XO-3 with Schwalbe Marathon winters. (Maybe set up as a single speed or fixed, if possible.) Another option is getting a separate wheelset to swap out the wheels from studded to regular tires (which I'm considering for my own bike). Ride safely, shoji On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:44:43 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: As I get ready for bed tonight realizing I probably don't have a safe set of this to ride in tomorrow's icy conditions in DC I'm shopping for winter tires... I'm curious about those who live in an area that does not have consistent snow or ice conditions but gets it enough to want the capability to ride in them. Do you set up a'snow bike' dedicated to the winter tires, put the tires on your primary commuter and leave them all season, swap them out as each storm or threat of storm comes through...? Some other solution... My personal decision is whether to get 700c tires to outfit the Atlantis, or to go 26 for either the MB-5 or XO-3. In leaning towards the XO-3 and making it the dedicated snow and ice bike through the winter. As always I'm curious what the group thinks... Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Marathon Winter Experience
Hi Patrick, I have a set of 26 Schwalbe Marathon Winters. They are not silent, and they impart vibration to the handlebars when riding on pavement. For my road riding (I haven't used them offroad), they do work well on road+ice. I've used them at the usual road pressure, but I could probably get a way with lower pressure as the tire sidewalls are quite stiff. No doubt that I prefer other tires, but these (and the Nokian A10s) add a bit of confidence when roads can get icy. All the best, Shoji On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:53:35 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anyone ride these as their main winter tire in varied conditions? I have two primary questions: — how well do they work on ice with low pressure? — how well do they work (silently) on dry roads with higher pressure? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Warhorse is being born!
Have the Marks send Warhorse to Boston for breaking/training I'll take good care of it for you and make sure it's safe to ride in the snow. :) Happy and safe trip to you! How amazing-- go away with two Fridays and English Coats and return to a Warhorse. On Friday, December 13, 2013 4:18:06 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: News Flash! Mark Nobilette has started on my raffle-won custom Appaloosa frame. Mark A. at Riv reports that it could ship to Joe Bell within a couple weeks. One might imagine I'm getting giddy all over again. the quick skinny to refresh your memory: ~50cm frame Appaloosa style! diagatube will be two small tubes mixte-style running to the mid stays 26'' rims room for fenders and 55mm tires (this is no small feat with this size frame and the diagatubelettes) schmidt dyno up front canti brakes khaki yellow/green color moose boscos , m, ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendells BBH Opening party and overnight.
You guys! Lots of fun looking at your pics, Manny. This one looks like a movie story board... put it together now: World Premiere at BBH next year. Maybe Jay R. would do it? On Monday, December 16, 2013 8:33:31 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Beautiful! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:06:56 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: More of a welcome back ride for good old riding buddy Tommy. Glad to have him back feels like he never left. Tommy and I were back to our old shenanigans by racing towards the ranger station of Mt.Diablo to grab the campground pass before they closed. We get there right on time watching the rangers were closing the gates to get the last minute campground. Already a good start. We roll toward Rivendell BBH semi-early with the party already starting. Chris was representing Portland by was there early chatting it up with Jared who had the duty to watch bikes. Pat rolled up making it four. Ely said he would make it but he was running on Filipino time. So he join in right before we left. He was late finishing up a rear back for that night's overnight. Great seeing old friends and meeting new friends. Makes me incredibly grateful and lucky to have met and ride with so many folks just in the past year. Cheese and pickles were there. I added my cupcakes which seemed like an affront to the Paleo-spread. But the ladyfriend told me I had to bring them to the Rivendell Shindig. Lots of you-have-to-go-to-the-physical-store-front items. Nice wool beanies and other nick-nacks including old fashion Hobby horses and yo-yos. The real beauty of the BBH store was in the rear where beautiful hatchet wall mount that really puts the whole shop together. The raffle was a blast like true Rivendell Raffle tradition one of the attendee's young child picked the winners. To my dismay the other Acosta brother was picked to win one of the prizes, a Hatchet! Not bad for coming 5 minutes prior to the start of the raffle. We head out with a huge group from downtown Walnut Creek. Sean, Will and Mike leading the way to their own night time ride of Shell Ridge. We passed the closed gates of Diablo and ride the rest of the ride up to the campgrounds with only the Moon lightning our way to the top. When we get to camp we get to business with the food. What's on the menu? Gourmet Mac and Cheese with some nice aged cheddar and smokey gouda with some spicy sausage with a hint of wood chips. Despite the coldish weather we had it was quite warm at the top we woke up a tad bit early to do some sunrise coffee at the top of Diablo. The descent was lovely. Dirt, frost, sand, mud and dry creek crossings. Food was We finished with some Pho. Lovely time to spend an overnight. Picture proves that hatchets always makes a party: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjP49mDP -Manny I left my cupcake holder, the Ladyfriend is going to be mad. Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
I'm waiting for the crankset to come out. I vaguely remember a mention in Blug or somewhere Riv that Mark A. was designing a Silver crank. (I hope it doesn't have that hidden chainring bolt!) On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:50:40 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: very cool indeed. They look sharp. I hope everybody has that Park tool in their toolkit. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tl011.htm On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:32:45 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Very cool. Wouldn't it be cool if they had a whole line of Silver branded components? Could deck out the whole frameset with complete Silver build. Wonder if they will only sell these rings from now on at RBW? Glad to know there is a place where I can buy rings for my favoritest Sugino XD2 triple crankset whenever I will need them! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chr2.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness
Thinking of you, Cecily. On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:56:27 AM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: Hang in there, Cecily Chica Warrior. Your Betty is a patient steed and she'll be there when your knee's ready. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?
Thanks for posting this, Andy. And for the group: this is a great source of cycling history for me. I've been more interested in understanding how things came about. (A sure sign of aging!) I do wonder how cycling racing became what it is today. I've seen those older pics of what the TdF (aka BORAF) used to look like... and I enjoy seeing and reading about the Great Divide race. Something about the limited support, one-bike approach that's Not Dumb and probably something Joe Martin and others would have cheered. (Sorry to hijack the thread.) On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:40:38 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote: While the big picture has the imprint of Schwinn all over it, I knew of a guy who, in the '70s, was making frames for young road racers as he was a standout proponent of cycling and non-unracing. The Ozark mountains area of Arkansas was not remotely a cycling hotbed, it was remote from resources. As a zealot, a coach and generally good guy with interest in a pursuit that was self-limiting by availability of equipment. He became a wholesale account for parts and pieces of componentry, wheelgoods and tools to support the bikes of his riders. The difficulty then of getting a kid of limited resources fit up for a suitable frame and bike was not only the expense but the logistics of getting the young rider to a shop or frame builder to be measured, observed riding and to feel trust enough for this distant torch driver to pay and wait for the production. The designs were patterned from bikes he favored (Merckx, Ciocc, Masi) and in his garage he produced yeoman framesets for his young local riders so they could train, race and compete without equipment or cost limitations. He did it not to establish himself in any way, just to overcome the logistic and financial limitations his location presented. He copied what worked and accepted no credit, no profit and no downtube props on the bikes and his efforts were in all out support for the young riders learning about what he really loved. He put on a stage race locally to give those riders a shot at a real three event race in the terrain they rode because travel to similar events posed the same sort of difficulty as sourcing bikes. His event began in 1978, he died of cancer in 1988. In 1990 my shop picked up his event and with help from his wife brought it back, memorialized under his name; Joe martin. It is now way out of the hands of a couple of shop guys doing favor to a hero of local cycling. It is a corporately sponsored stage race, an NRC calendar staple- the pro and elite amateur of cycling tour of USA Cycling. http://www.joemartinstagerace.com Nice to have been there in the hay bale era and see it bloom and meet a young Texan who was most polite, complimentary of the effort to put the event on and verbally thankful to volunteers around each course immediately following each event. BTW- he rode with a bar-end shifter on the left and an early STI on the right at that time. A guy I sold an RB-2 at the shop subsequently sold his business, created a company to provide operations for events now promotes the race. I was never interested in racing but really liked the bikes you could ride all day and I encouraged him that way when he bought it. He began riding alone, believing his detractors. In August I ran in to him when visiting the area and the very first thing he said thanks for selling him that bike, saying that people probably laughed at me for selling him a road bike but it opened a new door for him. Bottom line content: Joe Maritn liked bikes that could do anything and abhorred the specialist equipment that made the bike the deciding factor instead of a rider's skill and ability. In that era a stage racing bike was the deal and races of combined stages that if stand-alone would be ridden on funny bikes. Merckx, for example, rode them on dirt, gravel, pave, and Belgian blocks. He would speak of the equivalent situation of the Flemish farmboy setting out on a day's training ride with a couple of pieces of cobbler wrapped in paper in their jersey pockets, fired by the idea of getting off the farm, not just for the day but to compete successfully. American cycling seemed much more affluent or higher socio-economic pursuit in comparison to those farmboys looking for an economic way out and up via bicycling. Joe liked the humbler perspective and put all he had to give into it without any notation, credit or desire for such. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:26:11 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: (Mainstream) USA production heritage will inevitably be filtered through the lens of Schwinn - Eisentraut started out at the famous Oscar Wastyn (Schwinn) shop, for example. Later during the 1970's, upstart framebuilders (like Ritchey, or many MTB pioneers, or even niche builders like Sam Braxton) should be
[RBW] Re: I like!
did you say Canti-Roadeo? Why do I read these things-- Oh man, my wife's gonna kill me... fortunately the Roadeos don't have a kickstand plate, so that's a deal breaker. Whew. :) On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:31:46 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:17:52 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: What would I be missing between a Legolas and my canti-Rom, aside from the name? ??? You should think of the Legolas as a canti-Roadeo. It's lighter than a Rom and has racier geometry. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Be(eswax) Prepared -- Riv content
I'll take luck over skill any day. (That's not to say that they aren't correlated.) Turned a nice ride into a memorable one, with a great story to share. --shoji On Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:08:59 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: I can never hear the Boy Scout motto without thinking of the great Tom Lehrer’s song of the same name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSwjuz_-yao Be prepared! That's the Boy Scout's marching song, Be prepared! As through life you march along. Be prepared to hold your liquor pretty well, Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell. Be prepared! To hide that pack of cigarettes, Don't make book if you cannot cover bets. Keep those reefers hidden where you're sure That they will not be found And be careful not to smoke them When the scoutmaster's around For he only will insist that it be shared. Be prepared! Be prepared! That's the Boy Scouts' solemn creed, Be prepared! And be clean in word and deed. Don't solicit for your sister, that's not nice, Unless you get a good percentage of her price. Be prepared! And be careful not to do Your good deeds when there's no one watching you. If you're looking for adventure of a new and different kind, And you come across a Girl Scout who is similarly inclined, Don't be nervous, don't be flustered, don't be scared. Be prepared! *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Peter Morgano *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 5:02 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole Always be prepared On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.a...@skadden.com javascript: wrote: Everyone on that ride has adhered to the oath of secrecy, but I guess I'm free to describe my own stupidity, and the incredible good fortune that saved us at least 50 miles of extra riding on Day 1 of Riv Rally East 2012. The stupidity part: 1. Knowing my son Hank, who was riding a long ride for the first time, didn't have anything approaching an appropriate bike, I built up a SimpleOne frame for him *the night before the ride began.* 2. As a result, we had no opportunity to test ride the bike. 3. On the GAP trail, at least 20 miles from any bike shop, Hank said, My left pedal seems wobbly. 4. We stopped, I began to examine the pedal, and the left crank arm fell off in my hand… 5. …because the crank bolt, which I had in my haste the night before apparently failed to tighten, had fallen out -- not *in situ*, but somewhere back along the 20 miles we had just covered. The luck is not *always* the residue of design part: 1. At Hank's suggestion, we started walking back down the trail in the direction we'd come from (with me muttering that it was a stupid idea), and actually found the crank bolt lying on the ground about 1/2 mile up the trail. Eureka! Except… 2. …my tools did not include the necessary Allen wrench required to reinstall the crank bolt. 3. No problem! Just as we arrived back at the wounded bike, a convoy of Boy Scouts on bikes pedaled by, with their leader at the rear. Seeing our distress, he stopped, was told the problem, and volunteered that he had a full toolkit, including a variety of crank-related wrenches. He found the right one, we used it on our miraculously recovered crank bolt, and -- voilà -- we were on our way. I still recall Steve P shaking his head that night at dinner at the dumb luck of some people. But I now (a) tighten every bolt on my bike(s) before leaving on a long ride, and (b) always have a crank bolt wrench in my toolkit. Live and learn. -Original Message- From: Steve Palincsar [mailto:...@his.com javascript:] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:53 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Cc: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL) Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole On 12/18/2013 04:22 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Noted. Thank goodness spokes, 1/4 ball bearings and crank extractors do grow on trees. At least Mother Nature provides for us some of what we need. ROTFL! Apropos of Mother Nature providing, ask Thomas Allingham about crank bolts on the GAP. I'm not sure the story's been told here, and so, it certainly bears repetition. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related
[RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB
Hi Tony, Here's a cyclofiend scan of the QB RR ad (no pics of the actual act of shifting). Shifting for QB/SO is by un-bolting the rear wheel and moving the chain to the cog (single or dingle) and/or chain ring (single or double). The not-so-secret is that QB/SO has longer than typical rear fork ends (and they have a slight curve). Chain ring + cog combos chosen carefully as chain slack (like most single-speed or fixed) is accommodated by axle position in the fork end. The curve in the fork end is nice to keep the rim/rear brake position constant-- no need to change the brake shoe position. http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr31_pg25.jpg Hope that helps, shoji On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 10:38:47 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I know this exists somewhere, could some one share a link, hopefully with pictures describing the QB non-derailleur shifting options... I know it involves a surly dingle or WI Dos Eno with a corresponding double crank. But I'm not as clear on his you maintain use of the same chain with the multiple combos. I just got my XO-3 setup with a WI eccentric hub so I'm trying for a quasi-QB 26'er... Though the experience may just convince me I have to participate in the Simple Beam/Quick One project! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Six - Count 'em! - SIX CX Bikes at RBWHQL today!
Hi Steve, Legolas is available-- call up Riv and give them the secret password. shoji On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:21:27 AM UTC-5, Steve Park wrote: That photo set is killing me. Will anyone part with a 55 for, oh I don't know, my kidney? Or just come to my house and take whatever looks good. I'm sans-Riv these days (former AHH and Ram holder), but a Legolas Does anyone know if we'll ever see another production run of Legolas frames? On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 2:05:56 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: The threaded fork on the green Legolas is blowing my mind a bit. I remember they were advertised as threadless only. The norm was not to have the option, like with the Roadeo. But maybe they changed their mind. Or maybe that green one was made more recently in the secret production mode. On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Finally made my way east for a holiday visit to Rivendell Bicycle Works (both the showroom and the new downtown retail storefront - Rivendell Book Bike Hatchet). After hanging out and catching up a bit, Mark and Dave brought to my attention that spread around the parking lot and lounge were not one but FIVE (actually SIX if you count the unbuilt frameset..) Rivendell Cross bikes - 4 Legolas and two RBW CX models! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157638961642965 With the exception of the Rivendell Mountain, the Legolas is probably the least common of the breeds. (ok, there was that one weird outlier that showed up at a NAHBS, but arguably that was the terducken of RBW), and the fact that these were all within egg-toss distance of one another was pretty danged impressive. The other impressive thing was just down in the 1600 block North Main - the Rivendell Book, Bike Hatchet store. Found gifts-I-didn't-know-I-needed for my wife and a friend (yeah, yeah... and something for me too.) Grant and Will were manning the store, helping interested folks and selling stuff as we chatted. Bumped into a list-member, too! An hour passed by way too quickly. If you haven't been over there, it's worth a trip. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Albas Thumbies setup
Did you or Pat consider mounting the thumbies so that the shifters are on the inside of the bar? Looks like a few Riv employees have their bikes set up that way. You can see it on the Appaloosa for sale: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-080.htm On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:49:21 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: OP here. Well this has gone pretty far afield! I gather no one has experience with the Microshift BE's since no one offered any advice. I'm mostly a DT guy with BE's on the tandem so have no experience with thumbies. Here's what Pat thinks she wants. https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A2GtnIORGsrsPn It seems to me that as long as the shifter is a bit forward of the brake lever it ought to work fine. But no one on the list offered it up as their choice. Michael On Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:10:52 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Note to self: Offer Garth $25 apiece for his stash of shifters... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Larger 650B Homer's
Pelican? (Box Dog Bikes) I think it's offered in 650B and 700C. On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:17:24 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 12/30/2013 09:12 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: On Monday, December 30, 2013 4:35:46 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: Is there another model of bicycle anywhere in the world that comes with different wheelsizes as a function of framesize? only two I can think of off-hand are the Rawland Nordavinden. 650B in the smaller size and the Soma Saga and Buena Vista, 26 in smaller sizes. The Ocean Air Rambler also uses 650B in the smaller sizes and goes to 700C for the larger; also one whose name I've blanked on -- I keep thinking Penguin but I know that's wrong, the one I saw at NAHBS in Richmond was blue in color and for a time there were only two stock 650B bicycles, the Boulder and this one -- originally was 650B only in the small sizes, but I think the most recent batches have offered all sizes in 650B. The name will probably come to me in 20 or 30 minutes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: All this 650b saluki talk
great looking Saluki, C.J. On Friday, January 3, 2014 10:30:46 AM UTC-5, C.J. Filip wrote: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b8T6xlQHhaQ/UsbXoBYr68I/AA8/siU_sVOT49k/s1600/Salkooky.jpg Pics? Very unlikely to trade but I'll mull it over... On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 12:26:47 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: Has me wondering if someone has a 60cm 650b cantilever luki they would want to trade for my 56cm bombadil? Frame for frame. Only asking since my big move upstate is happening and I am looking for something a bit less heavy duty than the bombadil, although it was perfect for the urban jungle. Long shot I know but maybe some new years magic will happen. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
The 55cm demo (congrats on getting it, Michael!) has the no-kink geometry, compared to the 50cm demo (kinky). I used to think the kink detracted from the look... but my mind's now used to the look, and the 55cm no-kink looks to be the outlier! I also think large frames w/o TT or diagatubes look strange now. Maybe if I look at MCRB long enough, they'll look fine, too? For fabricating a true mixte, the limitation is the lug-- Riv would have to use a different headlug and seat lug () or perhaps do a filet braze to the headtube? I think Liesl mentioned that her custom Appaloosa will have a diagatube of this sort. (As the frame is too small to have a Riv-normal diagatube.) Shoji On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:16:29 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript: wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Cold set is a fancy way of saying bend it. Here's Sheldon Brown: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53:14 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sew own frame bags?
Hi Anne, Congrats on the Krampus! Have you considered the Revelate Designs frame bag (co-branded with Surly)? Revelate Designs may make one for the Krampus (Retail ~$160, in case you'd rather ride than sew): https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Frame-Bags/CoBranded-Frame-Bags Related but OT: ICYMI, pics of Great Divide/Krampus: http://www.adventurecycling.org/resources/blog/planning-for-a-2014-tour-divide-ride/ Forever true, shoji On Monday, January 13, 2014 1:35:45 PM UTC-5, Stephen S wrote: Anne, Have you been looking at the threads on bikepacking.net ? They have a forum for DIY / Make your own bags. http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/index.php/board,10.0.html Stephen On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:12:09 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: I ordered my new Krampus next week. Night blue pearl. And I want to take it camping. So I need carrying capacity. So I'm thinking about sewing a frame bag. f you have done that, what fabric did you use and where did you buy it? I'm looking at 1050 denier coated ballistics nylon or 330 or 500 denier Cordura from Seattle Fabrics, or 840 denier coated ballistics nylon or 500 denier Cordura from Quest Outfitters. I definitely want something waterproof, but I'm not sure how to choose between weight and strength. Also, if you have made a frame bag, how wide did you make it? Did you flare it at the front? What did you use for padding for the edges, if anything? How does it attach to the bike? My bike is going to be a size small. The Krampus has a sloping top tube, so that means a tiny little triangle, and lots of seatpost showing. That suggests room for another triangle-shaped bag above the top tube, in the triangle between top tube and seatpost. Has anyone tried that? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell sighting in Prolly isnt Probably
Thanks for sharing. some great pics. On Sunday, January 19, 2014 2:26:40 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: One of my all time favorite photographers is John Watson blogger of Prolly is Probably. His composition and ability to capture key moments of rides is truly inspiring. While stuck waiting for wrestlers at a wrestling tournament I was going through my instagram feed and where I recognized a bike I knew. Sure enough it's Jareds bike on John's feed in very familiar territory Mt.Diablo! Here's the link to the ride report. Super hard first day climbing out of Oakland and up to green Rancho. http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2014/01/rad-reportage-going-awol-in-the-diablo-range/#9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse
Oh yeah! On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:46:04 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: Behold! The Riv Chica Warhorse just arrived at Riv HQ and is heading immediately out to JB for paint! This will be an exquisite bike; real life is better than imagination. I am stunned by how oddly sleek she looks; a little like a sea creature! It is perhaps because the chainstays are so long and the midstays are so elegant. Diagatubelettes at the headtube are also a thing of beauty. You can imagine how giddy I am. Glad it's 12 below today as it helps greatly with patience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!
This is terrific, Bill. I'm inspired by the flickr set, and it's a great how-to. Can't wait to see how it all comes together with fenders and racks. Many thanks for sharing. Shoji On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:25:22 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote: Congratulations Bill. Enjoy the rides with your Dad. Thank you for posting. On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:29:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night. I rode it around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far. The real highlight is that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking power. I'm really really impressed. It's not done in my mind until the racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step. The racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the rack and fender install. Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, so this bike is S24O ready. It's full Alba-smile worthy. Imperfection side story. I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with clear shellac. I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store. They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged up. It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it. Whatever. I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear. It's looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can. Oh well, we're making memories (as my mom always says)! http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg Tons of Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse
A few more pics on the Blug: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/74111526410/riv-chica-warriors-frame On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:15:00 AM UTC-5, EGNolan wrote: The bike looks amazing. Am I the only one that LOVES the fact it has both a kickstand plate AND a chainstay bridge? Best, Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Another RBBH Visit
Thanks for the pics! I'll need to make a trip to Walnut Creek next time I'm out that a ways. The rope grid +bells is awesome. On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:57:03 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Nice photos! When I visited, GP had yet to add the ceiling rope grid. He spoke about the bells and the web-to-be. Ok then, gotta get back over to see this in person. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: My Bike Life Is Lacking
In case you missed it: there's a section on the bike Henderson site with trail maps-- maybe you're closer to bicycle trails than you realize? http://cityofhenderson.com/public_works/bicycle/maps_trails.php On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:17:28 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: Today I'm planning to find a bike store and see how much $ and how difficult that will be. There's a gazillion racks on craigslist, but I don't know which is compatible. I'll let you guys know. Also, on bikehenderson.org I found a bicycle scavenger hunt and the annual Stroll n Roll that we can bring our family's bikes to. Things are looking up around here, People! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Minh mgian...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: have you looked at adding a hitch to the odyssey, a fold-away hitch rack sounds like the best solution. On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:48:09 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: Joan, you've just hit in my current plan! Ha! I'm looking at what kind of bike rack my Honda Oddysey (no hitch) would take. I'll be perusing Craigslist in the near future! Yay! Thanks for a judge in the right direction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DeWojyJkZvc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
The Blug notes that there's a stash of small bike frames-- even a 47-cm Saluki. It might be worthwhile for her to talk to Riv-- they also seem quite good at steering folks to other venues if the price and/or style would better suit the customer. --shoji On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:14:16 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Hi Anne, The 51cm Soma San Marcos has a 55-cm effective top tube. With seat tube angle of 71.5 degrees. (The 47cm San Marcos has 53.5-cm effective top tube with seat tube angle of 71.5 degrees.) The 47cm Trek Domane has a 50.9-cm effective top tube. However, the seat tube angle is 74.6 degrees! Assuming the rider would ride with the same saddle-to-bottom-bracket position, the steeper seat tube angle would have a longer reach. In other words, the 50.9-cm effective top tube of the 47cm Trek may actually feel to a rider like a much longer reach than on a slacker seat-tube angle bike. Confused? Just [Test] Ride! Maybe there's a small Rambouillet in the Riv Attic? I think the smaller sizes had 26 wheels. --shoji On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:37:59 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm confused. The Riv chart says the Soma San Marcos has a 55 cm top tube for a 51 cm frame. Is that the actual top tube length c-c and effective top tube is shorter? I'm trying to compare this bike: http://www.trekbikes.com/int/en/bikes/road/endurance_race/domane_4_series/domane_4_3_wsd#/int/en/model/fit_sizing?url=int/en/bikes/road/endurance_race/domane_4_series/domane_4_3_wsd (Trek Madone WSD 4.3, in a 47 cm), to Rivendell frames: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0 And it looks to me like the Rivendell frames are a lot longer. Given that this woman thinks she wants a shorter frame, would Riv work for her? I need hardly add that in my opinion the bikes she is looking at are ridiculously ill-suited to her, and moreover she has no business riding a bike with 700c wheels, but she reasonably wants a bike that fits her. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.comjavascript: wrote: I recently bought my girlfriend a Soma San Marcos. She's about 5'4, and the 51cm fits her pretty well. It has a 51cm top tube. It's available in a 47 as well, which would probably fit your friend perfectly. The San Marcos is the lightest current Riv, except for the Roadeo. Plus, the color is magnificent. Tim On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Correct-- angle between seat tube and the ground (i.e., 90 degrees is vertical, and the Trek has a closer to vertical seat post than the San Marcos). The bigger angle BY ITSELF would bring the rider closer to the handlebars, BUT the rider would [generally] move the saddle backward to get a more comfortable position to the bottom bracket. Here's some from Grant: http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=73 And then, as Patrick points out, there's handle bar height to further complicate the geometry. On Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:24:21 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Hang on a sec. The seat tube angle is the angle from seat tube to ground, right? So a bigger angle should move the saddle forward and make reach shorter, right? Seems like it would unweight the rear wheel, though. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Anne, The 51cm Soma San Marcos has a 55-cm effective top tube. With seat tube angle of 71.5 degrees. (The 47cm San Marcos has 53.5-cm effective top tube with seat tube angle of 71.5 degrees.) The 47cm Trek Domane has a 50.9-cm effective top tube. However, the seat tube angle is 74.6 degrees! Assuming the rider would ride with the same saddle-to-bottom-bracket position, the steeper seat tube angle would have a longer reach. In other words, the 50.9-cm effective top tube of the 47cm Trek may actually feel to a rider like a much longer reach than on a slacker seat-tube angle bike. Confused? Just [Test] Ride! Maybe there's a small Rambouillet in the Riv Attic? I think the smaller sizes had 26 wheels. --shoji On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:37:59 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm confused. The Riv chart says the Soma San Marcos has a 55 cm top tube for a 51 cm frame. Is that the actual top tube length c-c and effective top tube is shorter? I'm trying to compare this bike: http://www.trekbikes.com/int/en/bikes/road/endurance_race/ domane_4_series/domane_4_3_wsd#/int/en/model/fit_sizing? url=int/en/bikes/road/endurance_race/domane_4_series/domane_4_3_wsd (Trek Madone WSD 4.3, in a 47 cm), to Rivendell frames: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key= 0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0 And it looks to me like the Rivendell frames are a lot longer. Given that this woman thinks she wants a shorter frame, would Riv work for her? I need hardly add that in my opinion the bikes she is looking at are ridiculously ill-suited to her, and moreover she has no business riding a bike with 700c wheels, but she reasonably wants a bike that fits her. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag. com wrote: I recently bought my girlfriend a Soma San Marcos. She's about 5'4, and the 51cm fits her pretty well. It has a 51cm top tube. It's available in a 47 as well, which would probably fit your friend perfectly. The San Marcos is the lightest current Riv, except for the Roadeo. Plus, the color is magnificent. Tim On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Endless Velo Love has ridden and owned a lot of bikes (including SH and AHH). Also includes go-fast, and some just-ride bikes. Might give you some ideas, though some were mentioned earlier this thread (Surly Crosscheck, Pacer, Trek Carbon, Trek Aluminum, SH, AHH/Saluki): http://endlessvelolove.blogspot.com/p/endless-bicycles.html On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:58:09 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: My wife is 5'-2 and rides a 47 cm Atlantis. The TT is around 51 cm, c-c. I didn't try to account for the slightly sloping top tube. On the blug Riv mentions having 47 cm Salukis. That would make a really nice road bike. dougP On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:14:16 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell
Hi Mike, I'm another Hunqapillar commuter (48cm.. so much smaller than yours would be, and with 26 wheels). The Hunqapillar is no slug when riding unloaded or lightly loaded (6 miles each way for the commute). In fact, it feels much faster and more comfortable than my Surly Crosscheck. I'm torn with selling my Crosscheck and moving full time on the Hunqapillar through the salty winter commute. On the one hand, I don't want to beat it up unnecessarily through the winter grit, but on the other hand, life's too short not to ride the good bike. If the component choice makes a difference to you, since you'll be moving components from your Cannondale: which Riv frame(s) use the appropriate brakes (canti vs side pull... with appropriate brake reach)? Good luck-- This is not a bad problem to have. Shoji On Sunday, February 2, 2014 12:34:56 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: Mike, I can only report my experience to give you data. I spent half of last summer (I'm a teacher) just riding around on my Hunqapillar. It was never too beefy. The riding around meant paved or dirt with no hesitation in transitioning from one to the other. There were many overnight excursions exploring new roads to pleasant destinations. Now seat, seatpost, wheels, tires, and handlebars might have a lot to do with it not feeling too beefy, so here is my setup: Boscos extended far on a Ritchey mountain stem, Rich-built LX hubs in Atlas rims, and 700x55 Big Ben tires. I use a B17 on the lugged steel Nitto wayback stem. I really hit the sweet spot with the handlebars. I got the angle I like and the forward extension I need for these bars. The 90's Ritchey Force stem (with its perfect 25.4 mm clamp) made this easy. The stem is 140 mm. I ride a lot of bikes for variety, but I could go to this Hunqapillar as the only one. I sometimes think, how can so much matter seem to disappear when I ride this? Yes, I climb other bikes uphill faster (on pavement), but I think the extra time only adds to the enjoyment. On dirt, I am often faster climbing than my mountain biking friends. What the Hunq brings for dirt tours far outweighs any compromises on pavement, and those compromises on pavement are very slight. Pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/11765735035/in/set-72157639418587383 -Jim W. On Jan 31, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
[RBW] Re: Wool, Ventile, and Quicksnow Non-Intentional Experiment
Hi Liesl, You are a terrific story teller (as are many others on this list). Glad you're fine with another good story to tell. I hope the pickup folks made it ok, too. --shoji On Monday, February 3, 2014 3:19:18 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: I think this qualifies as Riv content given the nature of this winter for many of us in the cold climes, so indulge me for a moment This weekend, since it's too crappy to ride bikes, I went to my college dorm-mates (circa 1977-78) reunion on a small lake in northern Wisconsin. Cold temps (below zero as we drank morning coffee) and 2-3 feet of wet snow on the ground. Five of us headed out with our snowshoes onto the lake in the morning just as ice-fishermen were also heading out in their heavy 4-wheel drive pickup. I was attired in fantastic gear for snowshoeing: vintage buffalo plaid thick wool hunting pants, a down sweater with a wind-proof Empire Canvas cotton anorak over it, Empire boots, and leather chopper mitts. Very quickly, though, the truck got into trouble with 'snow-ice/lake slush and as we watched it, we realized the same thing was happening to us. We came to call this deep and foot-thick layer of slush 'quicksnow', because it acted a lot like quicksand. This slush can form when there's a really heavy snow cover on a lake and it depresses the ice and water seeps over the top or through ice fishing holes. Anyway, we see the truck spinning up green slush, look down at our feet and see that we too are sinking into about a foot of wet wet slush, and elect to *urgently* move to the shore, which was about 50-75 feet away. (see attached photo of the truck's standing-water tracks—water still standing 8 hours after this story happened!) Thinking the pier that someone hadn't taken out for the winter would do the trick, my friend Kris and I made a b-line toward it. But the pier was too high and covered with, again, over 2 feet of snow, and it became clear in a hurry that the pier was not our salvation; we're now about 20 feet from the shore. I look down and the decks of my snowshoes are covered in very watery slush that is instant-freezing to their decks and bindings. I attempt to move my literally freezing feet and fall over onto my side. Immediately and with dread, I feel ice water seeping in at my wrist and elbow. I now have a sense of panic because I am wearing a down sweater with a cotton anorak over it and my boots also have cotton tops. I can see that my wool hunting pants are in the water, but I don't feel it seeping through. I knew if I tried to right myself I would wallow more in this icy water and become perhaps really soaked. I calmly yet urgently said to my friend Kris, I need help getting up. She swiftly pulled me up and I got myself to a sappling on the shore. All of us made it out to the shore/road and back to the cabin with no hypothermia. I've attached before and end-of-the-day photos with both fetching ensembles. Okay, here's the Riv point: I wore my heavy wool pants, wool lined choppers, and wool-lined Empire canvas boots for the entire rest of the day, which was spent outdoors. I traded out my upper torso garments for a ski sweater and a Filson vest. Wool, the miracle fabric. Keeping people warm and alive for 10,000 years. My question: how would the Riv Rain Jacket have done? Would it have kept my down sweater dry in this situation? Any ventile-wearers (meaning at least you, Deacon Patrick) with any kind of similar experience? -Riv Chica Warrior of the Quicksnow! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!
And my Riv'd out crosscheck: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157634606289599/ (Mostly Albas, a few Moustache) On Thursday, February 6, 2014 6:42:55 PM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote: Captain Conway in Chicago here. I'm an avid reader of the group but a sporadic poster. In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out cross check. So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr hot links for inspiration? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best Rainy footwear/boots
I use my hiking boots (old-style Vasque Sundowners) for cold and cold+wet. In warmer conditions, I use the MUSA Splats, which work well, but are a bit large for my shoes (Men's US10). Anyone use gaiters? I'm thinking of getting a set for hiking and cycling. The biggest problem for riding in heavy rain is water getting into my boots or shoes, which maybe the gaiters could help alleviate. (I'd go for the MUSA ShinShields, but I'd rather spring for rolls of Saran Wrap.) On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:39:45 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: Man whatever works for you is what works best. On Feb 10, 2014 12:38 PM, Tonester tony@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The Lake boots are gore-tex (or a similar material, I forget) and have ratcheting laces, both of which are decidedly high-tech. While I'm in agreement that lycra is probably what Satan wears to exercise I'm less tolerant to getting wet. I guess riding in socks or barefoot is an option but it's not for me. On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:18:28 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: why would it be Unpopular? Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote: I know it'll be unpopular here, but I broke down and bought a pair of Lake winter boots and they're awesome On Friday, February 7, 2014 3:19:49 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote: Hey all, so we've finally started getting some rain here in the Bay Area. I like commuting in the rain and have a pretty good poncho setup, but Ive always used regular sneakers and some sort of 'waterproof' shoe cover, but thats just not cutting it. What are peoples favorite dry boots for riding and wearing around?? thanks in advance! -Mike -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?
Hi Aaron, Might seem like a weird question, but do you have a [double] kickstand on the Sam? I had tire rub (26 Big Bens on a Hunqapillar) on the Pletscher double kickstand. Clearance was generally fine, but with low tire pressure and hard pedaling, there was enough lateral movement to get rub. shoji On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:50:37 AM UTC-5, AaronY wrote: Hey gang, I have Hetres on my first-gen (gold 'n' green) Sam H. with VO Zeppelin fenders. Clearances are fairly tight, but there is no tire rub as long as the wheels are true and the fenders are adjusted properly. However, under heavy pedaling it seems (sounds/feels like) some tire rub may occur as the bike flexes. I can't see any wear marks on the tire, but any degree of tire rub is concerning to me. I'm considering swapping tires to something a bit smaller, but before I do I want to ask the bunch: If you have a Sam H and are running 650bx42mm tires and have fenders, then what is your experience? What tires and fenders are you using? Any rubbing? Thanks, Aaron In general I like a rub, but just not tire rub Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?
Integrated headsets-- e.g. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/sneak-peek-colnagos-new-epq/159960 http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/pro-bike-dominik-roels-team-milram-focus-izalco-team/105472 On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:51:58 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 02/19/2014 11:40 AM, grant wrote: Yep, the oversized description doesn't work anymore these days, when most bike frames have tube proportions that make them look drawn by a toddler with a fistful of dull fat crayon. That's why the headsets have disappeared, too. (I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that..don't get me wrong..) Which headsets have disappeared? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!
Exciting! Do you mean 26 Aeroheat rims? I think Aeroheat is Velocity's touring-type rim. Are you getting the Phil Cassette hub (per your SRAM 9-sp cassette)? or the Phil Rivvy 7-sp freewheel style? Big Bens-- I really enjoy them on my Hunqapillar. They roll really nicely. Did you consider the new Riv-exclusive Tektro brake levers? The Shimano's work great, though. Can't wait to see how it comes together. --shoji On Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:28:59 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: Hi Friends, the beginning is near; looks like Joe Bell will send the custom frame to Riv around March 21. Zownds! Here's the build I've worked up with able advice from Mark Abele: 26 Aerohead 32-hole rims SON28 Dyno up front (likely running an already existing Supernova) Phil Rivvy in back Big Bens Tange/IRD NeedL BlastR Roller Drive Headset Phil bottom bracket Paul Touring Canti's Paul Tall and Handsome Seat Post Brooks Champion Flyer Select Bullmoose Boscos Shimano MTP Silver brake levers Paul Thumbies Miesha Grips Sugino XD2 Double Wide Low with 170 cranks SRAM 9 speed cassette 11-34 teeth Claris Front Derailer Shimano XT or Deore Rear Derailer (undecided; opinions?) a kickstand, a few water bottle cages, Sackville Flaps and a friend is making locally-sourced cedar fenders with me back home! Now let the Committee Deliberations commence! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv Chica Warrior Custom: the Build!
Hi Anne, I have the Supernova Airstream, which is a battery version headlight. It has the Terraflux lens, which is asymmetric (not illuminating drivers eyes). I think the dynamo version is the E3 Pro Terraflux (now E3 Pro 2). The off-road dynamo version is the E3 Triple. (I may have messed up the names...) --shoji On Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:27:01 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Which version of the Supernova do you have? On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org javascript: wrote: Thanks all for catching the cassette/rear hub conundrum. More on that later. Anne, I already have the Supernova and have been using it for commuting for maybe two years. I know you've been exploring this in your thread. I like the light and especially like the rubber gasketted handlebar mount; it moves so easily from bike to bike and fits in a pocket. Erin has one too. We don't do off-road stuff generally but do ride snow after dark. It's been a fine light for our purposes. (Bill, the cowboy shirt arrived. C'est Magnifique!) The custom is hopefully a go most anywhere/do most anything/have most fun doing it kind of bike. On the small decisions: that's why I'm gonna make the pilgrimage to Riv for the build. On the big decisions: working on 'em! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A lugged steel boomerang? My Hillborne is back!
I hope it takes you on many wonderful adventures. Indeed. Shoji On Friday, February 28, 2014 2:44:42 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: When I pulled up my MonsterCross build photos, I immediately went looking for those tires online. It looks so kickass, and there's still tons of clearance. That would shred. It looks like that tire isn't made anymore, though. I'll probably buy some Rock and Roads and wait for that new WTB Nano 700x40 as wellAND buy some 700x38 Compass Barlow Pass road tires as well. So many great tires One thing I forgot to mention about the re-purchase. I did go pick it up riding my dad's Windsor, and rode back down 2 miles to BART with the frame on my shoulder. On the BART train this tiny woman (maybe 5', maybe 95lbs) looked at me with Windsor and Hillborne and said new frame?. I said new/old/new frame. She said well, I hope it takes you on many wonderful adventures I've never gotten a random bike blessing from a stranger like that. Maybe she was an angel? On Friday, February 28, 2014 11:11:30 AM UTC-8, jinxed wrote: Bill...this is just an awesome story! I have never had a bike come back to me although many would be welcome. And for the record...your monstercross build is absolutely THE best!! I would have purchased the same frame a size down, but they had switched to sidepull by the time I was shopping. Oddly I ended up on a Hilsen which was sidepull too. But that got got traded for my AR. MAN I wish the Hilsen had come with cantis!!! Really crazy that someone could have such a beauty hanging around and never build it!! It's like you put in cryogenic storage for deep space travel and now it's reached the galactic outpost and assigned a fresh mission! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Fenders for the 650b Big Ben tire
Hi Meade, I'm not sure if it translates to 650b: I ride 26 Big Bens (52mm actual) with VO Stainless Steel 60mm Fenders 26 ATB. The fenders are a little small for my taste with the tires. (I think they look great, but there's occasional tire+fender rub when I stand out of the saddle and pedal.) Here's a pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/13023145514/ On Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:57:08 PM UTC-4, Meade Anderson wrote: Has anybody tried these tires yet...? (looks like Rivendell is sold out of them) I've got a set waiting for the mounting but am unsure if my current set of Honjo's will cover the tire or even fit...has anybody tired the Some Rain Dog Fenders at 60mm wide? How about with the Bens? http://store.somafab.com/soma-rain-dog-fenders--60mm-wid60.html Thanks meade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Prototype on Blug?
Here's a link to the video Rivendell People: https://vimeo.com/57271334 The reference from Grant on chain-stay length is ~28 minutes. On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:03:39 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: That's got Keven all over it. There was a provocative reference to forthcoming long-chainstayed model(s) in the Riv People movie that Jay produced (search Riv People on Vimeo). Grant attributed all of that to Keven. The Cheviut and now this one both have that attribute. On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: Check it out in all it's blue-ness! http://rivbike.tumblr.com Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OK, what is it? (zero dollar BLUG challenge)
I'm glad you brought this up-- and I'm intrigued by your guess. If Riv did try it, I guess they'd need to cast a new seat lug? It reminds me of the elephant bike biplane mono seat stay: http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/2010/08/my-new-elephant.html On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:13:05 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: https://31.media.tumblr.com/0b9f39d77b0e78bd4301510d5142e856/tumblr_inline_n2b8srpYxS1rzz3f2.jpg My guess is it's a rear brake bridge. I think Riv likes chainstay caps way too much to ever use this. Or, maybe I'm wrong what it is (but I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Edelux - Blug Post
I agree with the rant, but: the Nitto Mini and the Mark's rack both have tabs on the front on which one can affix a fork-mount light. It's pictured on the Riv page for the Luxos U Dyno light (2nd, 3rd, 4th pics): http://www.rivbike.com/Busch-and-Muller-Luxos-U-Headlight-p/ltd-11.htm (I think some light aficionados have said that one should only mount German-made lights to the fork crown position, because that's how they're designed!) If you'd like to mount the light to the side struts... you're on your own. But there seem to-be quite a few options for after market light arms/brackets, and Edelux even comes in upside-down mount. You could always go custom. On Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:46:32 PM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote: I agree with the rant – it shouldn't be that hard to use your bike at night. There actually are standards for lights. For example, all the German lights use an M6 bolt, and the bases are the same width. They mount to standard brackets that go on the fork crown. The bracket sandwiches the light, so you can adjust the light's angle by hand without loosening the bolt. As long as you use canti, V-brakes or discs, the fork crown is wide open. The rear light goes on the rear fender. Whether these are the best locations is a different matter, but if you have a German city bike and want to switch from a IQ Cyo to an Edelux, it's a simple swap. It's the same with derailleurs on our bikes. Yes, putting the derailleur on the outside of the rear dropout isn't ideal – the hanger tends to bend when the bike falls over – but they all are the same, and switching from Shimano to Campy is a snap today, unlike in the old days when Campy, Huret and Simplex each had their own dropouts with different derailleur hangers. We run into problems if our bikes aren't designed for derailleurs or lights. Then we have to get creative. And the results are often sub-optimal. Just like with cars, where the add-on fog lights tend to fall off, rotate or have unintended consequences (engines overheating because the lights block the radiator). The headlights that come with the car rarely have any issues... The beauty of a bike that is designed from the onset for lights is that you don't have to think about them. If they are well-designed, they are just there, ready to be switched on when you need them. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 2116 Western Ave. Seattle WA 98121 http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:20:52 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: +1 on that rant. Shouldn't have to buy a rack to make a light work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Tires make a difference?
I'm with you on the Nokian A10s... I'm glad I have them for the winter ice commute, but I can't wait to swap back to the Jack Browns. It feels like riding into a perpetual headwind. shoji On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:04:29 PM UTC-4, RonaTD wrote: I have used 3 different sets of tires on my Bleriot/Protovelo in the last few months: Nokian A10 Riv Fatty Rumpkin (the original ones) Pacenti Pari Moto The difference in riding effort/speed is astonishing. I describe the difference between the Nokians and the Pari Motos as three gears (on a wide range cluster). I met up with pal Kurt for the last 10 miles of his epic January 200km ride, and I exhausted myself trying to keep up with him. Two weeks earlier, on Pari Motos on a 200km brevet, I flew away from him on the first climb. The Fatty Rumpkins are in between, but far aback of the Pari Motos. I tried to mount the Fatty Rumpkins for commuting last week (surely winter must be over) and gave up after an hour of trying to get them to mount straight. The Pari Motos went back on. Event tires, I guess, but commuting is an event, too. Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Graduation gift for a lady
Assuming the Betty Foy or Cheviot are a bit outside of the price range: - Brooklyn Cruiser (which I think Grant has some involvement): http://www.brooklynbicycleco.com/ - Soma Buena Vista Mixte - Public Bikes - Paperbike - Papillionaire - Bobbin - Civia I didn't realize until jotting these down, but there are a lot of mixte and step-through models. I've ridden some of these, and they seem nice. The 700C versions fit 35, IIRC, and some are 26 wheels. Happy graduation! Shoji On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:17:29 AM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote: Hey folks, My lady friend is graduating from graduate school and I am thinking about buying her a proper bike. I did get her a cinzia folding bike for $50 from San Sntonio CL while we were visiting TX last winter but she doesn't ride it much but would ride a real bike. I would prefer a new frame so I'm thinking a Handsome She Devil. It's the only decent production mixte I know of with clearance for chubby tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Saddlesack Medium and Biking to School
congrats on the purchase. I've occasionally done the same on the Riv site. The medium saddlesack (I have it in olive) is terrific. I don't know if your dog will fit, though. :) Keep up the good work with school biking. It starts with one family, then others will join you. I wish you the best, shoji On Saturday, March 22, 2014 1:40:01 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: Well, I don't know what came over me just now. I found myself pecking out my credit card info on Riv's site for a new Saddlesack Medium in tan. I don't even know how I settled on tan. Wait, yes I do - I flipped through the Group's photo pool and noted that the bikes similar in paint to my Betty Foy looked bright and lively with the tan; I felt the olive color looked heavy and separate from the bike - like it would not complement my bike but rather compete for its own attention. (Though on the orange or green bikes olive really was spectacular.) Probably nobody else even understands what I'm prattling on about, which is why I took the precaution of writing to Riv in the notes: I chose the tan because it brightened bikes similar in color to my Betty Foy and looked lively. If you disagree and think olive is better, please call me and get me to come to my senses. Well, it's done. I have no great need for such a bag on my short commutes to my sons' school, but I am a shameless bag hound of the worst kind. And there you have it. That brings me to school biking. I've mentioned before on here about the traffic snarl at the school. It truly brings out the worst in people - even me! Routinely, people park and block access to the sidewalk (yes, it's legal to for bikes to ride on them here, and with 2 kids - 1 who is on a tiny 16 inch wheel bike - I certainly use them) by parking across the sidewalk. I've started leaving notes on cars, knocking on windows, calling traffic enforcement. Some poor child will get hit after being forced off the sidewalk into the busy street; it really is a matter of time. It's been very frustrating but then today happened: I was stopped by a MOM on a BIKE! This is a brand new thing! She lives a few houses away from me and decided she was going to bike commute with her child (who is still on training wheels). She was riding a Lemond road bike with drop bars and none of the Rivish accoutrements. She was admiring things on my bike (mostly my dog) but maybe I can send Grant some new business. If not, he'll just have to be happy with my reckless order from tonight. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Chica Warrior Ride. Tomorrow! (3/22)
Great pics from all. Thanks for sharing... you certainly made this east coaster jealous. Congrats Liesl and Riv-- great bike! shoji On Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:45:18 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote: Great Time. What more can I say. I'm amazingly lucky to be able to make friends with amazing people. It was great to see everyone and hang out. Thanks to Grant ad Joe for leading this jumbled ride, last minute. Pictures Proved that the Mini-War Horse is up and running! http://flic.kr/s/aHsjVeMvpT -Manny Oh that's where Grant used to live Acosta P.S. Paging Annie P. I have package for you via RBW Chica Warrior. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:09:16 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: I love that the easy ride included walking up steep trails and climbing fences :) Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, March 22, 2014 5:03:04 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: Well it was a very nice ride that meandered through Walnut Creek and Lafayette on street, MUP, and dirt. Liesl's new bike is awesome. The ride included a couple of gates to climb over, one re-routing because of too much poison oak, a side trip to Grant's childhood home, and a glimpse of the new proto-Hunqapillar. Weather was about 70 degrees. I ran out of camera memory at the turnaround but here are some snaps: https://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/sets/72157642759332855/ Others will post more, I'm sure. With so many cameras, Riv rides sometimes look like paparazzi exercise. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars
Sounds like you should consider albastache, too. Sorry to add to the choices! I think Christopher Chen moved from Noodles to Albatross to Albastache on his Hilsen, and he mentioned being out on the albatross curves a lot. I have the standard bullmoose and switch between it and the Noodles. I like the bullmoose-- very stable and lots of leverage. I have the albatross on my cross check set up as a cruiser. With my hands on the ends, I can sometimes pull/rotate 'em in the stem (particularly when it's raining out). You won't get that with the bullmoose. I think the bullmoose is great for technical, because you can point the wheel precisely where you want. (Though it's w i d e, which might be a problem on narrower trails.) They're comfortable for a time, and you can move your hands along the wide sweep... but it's not the same as having different hand positions on the albatross or drops (or moustache, which I also have). Good luck Patrick! On Monday, March 24, 2014 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm glad you mentioned the standard bullmoose, René. Thank you. My favorite position on the Albatross is the outer curve, but I have no brakes there, so I have to ride the handles on the downhills. It seems I could well end up with the same issue with the Bosco's. How are the standard bullmoose for long days in the saddle? (5-8 hours.) With abandon, Patrick On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:19:30 AM UTC-6, René wrote: After having several flavors of the Bosco bars and really liking them for many reasons, I went back to the traditional Bullmoose bars on my Hunqapillar, but raised them as high as feasible. I like this setup even more. With the Boscos, my hands kept hurting and when riding rough terrain, I would find myself having to grip the bars very tightly (I don't think the reverse levers helped in this regard) to provent my hands from sliding forward. This created some tendinitis and hand pain that took a long time to go away. The higher standard Bullmoose bars take care of my neck and hand pain, and I feel I have much better control of the bike now. René On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comwrote: I have had albas regular Boscos and now the bull moose bars. They definitely give me more power and stiffness when climbing, a really solid feeling. On Mar 24, 2014 12:10 AM, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really interested in responses to this as well as I'm really on the fence about which bars to use on my Hunq build (still a few months before delivery). Nothing to add, just want to get replies in my inbox. On Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:32:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I’d love to hear from someone who rides a lot of trails, especially with roots, rocks, snug tree gaps twists, and the like, how they ride. How do they climb? How big a difference does the solidness make in torque when climbing/maneuvering over/around obstacles and when descending with weight back on the bars at the brakes? How are they for long mellow parts? Any comparisons with the Albatross are appreciated as well. My sole issue with the Albatross is the feeling that when I pull on the bars or absorb a bump with elbow bend that they don’t feel as solid as I would like. I love every other aspect of them, so hate to save to try a new cockpit if I’m loosing something in the process. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Single-Chainring Drivetrains
Hi Patrick, I read through the thread, and I hope I understand what you're trying to do: The riding I do is mostly in the 24...-- Is the 24T adequate? Is it too high or too low for your 8-spd 11-32 cassette? Do you spend your time mainly on the 11 or mainly on the 32 or in the middle (or maybe the terrain rolls so much that you shift through the entire cassette?). Then you write but then there are sections of flat and down where pedaling is needed at higher speeds.-- is this mainly in the 36T middle ring? (You mentioned that the 46T doesn't get much use.) Does the 36T with the 8-spd 11-32 offer a good range for your needs? On those flats, do you spend a lot of time on the 11 and could use a larger front ring? If you got the standard Riv build, I'm guessing that you could switch from 8 to 9 without much pain. But, the IRD/Riv 8-spd is 12-34 and may just do the trick for you (compared to the 9-sp 12-36). Would the 36 rear serve you better than 34? Perhaps you could use a little more top end 11 vs 12 (8-spd 11-32 cassette)? Since it sounds like you're interested in changing the chainrings, would 40/24 be better than 36/24 (essentially the current state)? Maybe you'd be better served with something a little higher? 42/26? It would depend on what gears you use most. Good luck! Shoji On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:28:26 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I found expander sprocket for a 10-speed cassette: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/hope-t-rex-expander-sprocket/rp-prod119003which then gives an 11-40 range. Will a 10-speed cassette require different shifters, derailure, etc? RIv. sells the 9-speed cassette (for $50) that is 12-36. Does moving to a 9 from an 8 require a change in drivetrain parts, or is it interchangeable (I know I'd need a new chain). Anyone know of an expander sprocket for 9-speed? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars
Hi Patrick, Here's Olivier's overlay of the h-bars (also seen in the most recent Riv catalog): http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8915626620/ Standard bullmoose doesn't get you into a forward position with control. You can grab the forward-most point and tuck, but that's more for aerotucking.. not technical riding. Takashi has standard bullmoose with the knobs to lean onto-- seems like a good addition for longer rides. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8626592972/ Based on your description, I'd recommend the moustache/albastache. (I haven't tried albastache but do have and like the moustache. It's a forward for climbing and descending grip with brakes within reach. If you're cruising and want to sit up, do so by grabbing the ends.) best, shoji On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:55:09 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: What I am learning is that while I like an occasional upright/back hand grip, I prefer being forward, and wide for climbing and descending (and having access to the brakes from the hoods. I'm thinking the forward position on the Albatross is too narrow. So, my current list of questions is: Can you Bosco Bullmoose riders help me understand what the brake options and forward/wide grip options feel like? Standard Bullmoose riders: how are the bars for flatter stretches (which is when I like to sit back/upright)? They look ideal for the climbs/descents. Ideas for attachments to add a cruising position? Albastache riders: how wide are the hooks, especially in comparison to the Albatross hooks? Anyone have a link to the handlebar comparison photo from the catalog? Mine is elsewhere since my hobbit hole got reconstructed. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:10 AM UTC-6, Coconutbill wrote: like tires, each one has its application. the bosco bullmoose will be at home on your Hunq. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Can i ride in hiking boots?
I've been using Vasque Sundowners with thin gripsters and gripkings. No problems (though I have to be mindful of tucking the laces to keep 'em out of the chainring). On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:58:45 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: And not be in terrible pain. The new trail here has lots of fun hiking spots but I haven't ridden in boots before. I have the thin gripster pedals on my bombadil which I would use for these rides. Thanks for any advice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
Congrats, Liesl, Grant, Mark, JB, others. This is a wonderful bike, that starts its life with a tremendous story. I wish you many great miles. Shoji On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:36:53 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, If you haven't seen it already, here they are: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/80720787036/heres-the-story-of-our-latest-custom-bike-for The bike is a treasure. So sure and confident and comfy and beautiful. It will go anywhere and everywhere. For a very long time. I went out on the Saturday Gentlewoman's ride with the local Rivsters. I can't really give a full report, though, because I was too sick with an upper respiratory thang to venture out in the hills with the rest of the gang (thank you Cora for sitting in the shade with me). Any time you borrow a saddlebag to tote Dayquill and a box of Kleenex is just not a good sign. Anyway, the little riding we did on Saturday lets me know that it is a joy to ride and fits like a broken-in pair of wonderful handmade shoes. I managed to get in the shortest of descents on a grassy Riv-style hill and I was in awe of its stability. Like a mountain goat. The paint has to be seen to be believed. JB added pearl to the paint that you can't see until it's in brilliant sun. And then it flickers and dazzles with the most subtle blues and yellows and whites...like you just found a treasure on the beach. Some details: The Select Flyer wasn't just a test saddle; it's the saddle. Paul seatpost, thumbies, and brakes; SON hub, White Industries MI5 rear hub, brown big bens, phil BB, shimano xt derailer. Will add cedar fenders and a nitto mini front rack. And how wonderful to say to my fellow low PBH friends like Manny: Take it for a ride! (Rich Lee, you're next in line!) Once it's set up here in Minneapolis, there'll be more photos and ride reports. Thank you everyone for your knowledge, skill, artistry, support and input. And especially Grant, Mark, Mark, Rich, JB, and Keven. grinning from ear-to-ear, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kickstand Questions
Hi Michael, I would be cautious about the weight of the tandem and the mounting point. The Pletscher has a 25kg weight limit, but if you get close to that weight, there would be a lot of pressure on the mounting point. IIRC, a Hunqapillar kickstand plate was broken when someone sat on saddle with the bike supported by the double legger. I have both Pletscher and VO Copenhagen dual leg. The VO's legs move quite a bit in the up position-- I had to take it off because it caused wheel rub. Also, the screws for the height adjustment rusted out very quickly (1 winter of use). I could probably replace the screws, but haven't gotten around to it. I wouldn't recommend the VO. shoji On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45:26 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: I thought about hijacking Conway's post but my questions are broader than his, so decided a new thread would be wiser. I've never used one but woke up this morning thinking that adding a two legged stand to our travel tandem would make dis and reassembly easier. Since the tandem is quite heavy, ( 40+ lbs ) it would seem like a two legged stand might be a better choice than a single. Has anyone on the list added a kickstand to their tandem and how has it worked out? What's the experience of one vs. two legged stands? Has anyone used both the Pletscher and Velo stands? Which did you like? And finally how did the cutting go? Michael Westford, Vt, where sugar snow is finally falling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Nice bike! ECR? or Krampus? or ?? Did you have to get an aftermarket split for the belt drive? Happy riding! Shoji On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:30:49 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: It's not a Rivendell, but it has some Rivvy features. Meet Midnight, Prince of Darkness: https://plus.google.com/photos/+JohnLamping/albums/5995658591943182593?authkey=CKDxg7ehtuv6QQ I got it yesterday, took it out for a longer ride today. Fantastic. I quickly got used to the instant Rohloff shifting. Rohloff + belt drive means not much maintenance, which is good for someone with my slipshod habits. It's not obvious in the picture, but those tires are not just wide, but HUGE. I rode my Atlantis over to get the car to drive up to Cycle Monkey to get Midnight. So then I had two bikes to put in the car, and I happened to put the Atlantis wheel next to Midnight's wheel. The Atlantis' tire is not tiny; I have Schwalbe 1.9's on the bike. Midnight's wheel was six inches taller. Huge. Now I can do dirt tours and not get nervous on narrow bumpy trails. I have a USB port in the stem. Because I am a nerd. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is Born
Happy riding, Joyce! On Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:07:13 PM UTC-4, Linkbeak wrote: OK, preaching to the choir here but I thought I'd share my experience and thoughts on my new Atlantis. I posted here at Christmas time about my custom tourer that was stolen and I replaced her with an Atlantis. Everyone at Riv was amazing, all working hard to make sure I could get my new bike in time for a tour at the beginning of April. I don't have a lot of miles on her yet, but I have been amazed so far at the fit, the ride, the whole package. She was only born a week ago, but in that short time has been ridden unloaded around town, loaded on the trail, and commuting to work. All great experiences. And talk about experiences. I went to RBW HQ to pick her up as I have family in the area. The care that Brian put into installing accessories that weren't even purchased from Riv was above and beyond. Mark plied me with so many espressos I could have ridden a century that afternoon. And I was there as the custom was being built up and got to see it and meet Liesl. Yes, the people on this list are real! Both her bike and mine are beautiful in their own ways. The paint on the custom has to be seen to be appreciated -- it is really stunning. From Walnut Creek, it was back to Portland on Amtrak and then after only a few short days with my new bike, I delivered her to Amtrak again for the trip to Florida, where she will get to fulfill her true destiny as a loaded tourer. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Almost Blue
Great write up and handsome bike. Happy riding! Shoji On Monday, March 31, 2014 1:27:28 AM UTC-4, Roger wrote: Thanks for the kind words everyone. The Sam Hillborne is indeed a handsome bike. I believe I got the last 62cm in this color, with the next batch, in the standard blue I'm told, not arriving for a little while. Today I went for a spin with the seat set back a little further and found it closer to where I usually set the saddle. I like a lot of setback, it helps me to balance my upper body without putting too much weight on my hands and arms. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: No more print RR#43?
Here's the PDF on Cyclofiend's site. (I assume this means it's ok by Riv to download.) http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr43_v1_all.pdf On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:48:05 AM UTC-4, Doug Van Cleve wrote: Howdy folks. I have every RR from zero forward, but it looks like I may have waited too long on the current one. It shows as out of stock. Does that mean there won't be any more printed? Anybody have an extra? Thanks, Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice
Hi Avery, Welcome! I'm a cockpit changer myself. (Currently setting up moustache to go along with my Noodles + bullmoose cockpits.) Since you're running bar-ends, take a look at this blog post. http://www.tamiasoutside.com/2008/08/24/barcons/ It details how to swap the bar ends, shifters, etc., from one bar to another. You won't need to worry about cables, etc., if you go from albas to Noodles (and back/forth). You might want to reconsider how you wrap your shift cables in order to minimize the work. For the caliper brakes: If you happen to mangle the brake cables, you could always move the rear brake cable to the front (cutting off the mangled part). It's probably a good idea to check the brake cable to make sure it's intact and otherwise fine before re-using it for the front brake cable. The worst you're out is a new brake cable ($4 on Riv). Have fun! It's great to have different cockpit set ups-- it's N+1+ shoji On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:24:33 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: Thanks for all the replies and the multiple welcomes to the group, kind gentlemen. A few things about myself that would make the 56 Sam vs 61 Hilsen debate clearer: My PBH is 88, but my overall height is about 5'10, so I've got the legs of a six-footer, but the torso of a shorter man apparently. I weigh an even 200, but with not a whole lot of fat, so I'm not ever going to lose more than 10 or 15 pounds, max. I occasionally, begrudgingly pull a trailer with 2 kids. (I love my daughters, but pulling a trailer makes cycling less than fun) I want to S240 more than I do, with mixed pavement rides. Think gravel, fire/logging roads through the state forests here in Indiana. My favorite rides are all day in southern Indiana meandonneuring among the hardwood forests and hills and forgotten roads. The above-listed points may have pigeon-holed me for the Sam I already own! I have a few things to do over the weekend apparently :) I will swap my stem out for the 12cm Technomic Deluxe that I already have. Then I'll build up a set of Noodles that I also already have with the 10cm Tallux stem that's currently on my A-bars. I'll try out both setups for awhile, one after the other. I am going to need a bulk box of shift/brake cables if I keep changing cockpits like this! Or has anyone used those DaVinci cable disconnects for making cockpit swaps quick and relatively painless? As far as wheels, I looked up rim weights on Peter White's website.. apparently the difference between Dyad rims and Synergies is negligible. As in, less than 10 grams. I had assumed the Dyad's would have been much heavier. Question on wheels - I have a set of excellent roadie wheels, but they are spaced 130mm at the rear. They're currently on the VO and shod with some Vittoria 32mm tires. Would it be ok to swap these over to the Sam for at least just a short ride? Throw some extra washers or locknuts on the axle of the road wheels and have less axle in the dropouts? I'm thinking of ordering a set of the new Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 tires. I don't want to open up the Riv vs Compass tire philosophy debate, but I will say this: The Hilsens that I rode that I loved the ride on had Jack Brown Greens on one and Pacenti Pari-Motos on the other. Not flat-protected tires that I've been riding on the Hillborne. So there's that. I suppose the goal I'm going for is to capture for my Hillborne whatever it was that I loved about the ride and responsiveness of the couple Hilsens I've ridden. Project Hilsen-ify the Hillborne? Tires and Bar tape are cheaper than new bikes... Avery -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update
Hi Avery, Looks great, feels great... enjoy the ride! Looks like nice trails to explore. Happy spring! shoji On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:35:03 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: So I took some advice from you guys on this list and decided to tinker with the Sam Hillborne over the weekend.. and ride as well! I took off the Albatross bars, along with their 10cm Tallux Stem and swapped in a pair of 46cm Noodles that I already had built up as a complete cockpit with a DirtDrop stem. Took it out for a ride on Saturday, just 5 or 6 miles, and had just loved it. First time I'd felt good on drops. Ever. I didn't want to get too excited, so I took it for a much longer ride today - 30-35 miles perhaps, broken up into two parts, before and after church. The bike is completely transformed! I just felt faster, quicker, more in control.. it was great. How does a bike feel more responsive at the pedals based on cockpit alone? So I know that the DirtDrop stem seems real short, and it looks a little funny, but I've come to realize that I have the PBH (88) of a man 6' or taller. Trouble is, I'm only 5'10, so those inches had to come from my torso. So, my tall seatpost and short dirtdrop stemmed Noodle cockpit just seem to work really well for me. If I get tired of the slightly weird look of the dirtdrop, and want to rewrap the bars sometime, I'll get a 7cm Tallux. Or something. Or just be happy :) Also I inflated the Resist Nomad 700x45c tires up to 50psi rear 40psi front, and that make the bike feel quite a bit quicker. They were at 40/30 previously. Now I'm awaiting my 700x38 Barlow Pass tires to show up from Compass sometime this week and hopefully take the feel from the tires to the next level.. :) I think the ills I felt toward my bike earlier this week are fading away.. cockpit swap, and next a tire swap will do it! Link to photo below of current setup. Current Bike Setuphttps://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/13682203014/ Here's a picture from the ride today, with fellow list member and new Riv A. Homer Hilsen owner Michael Fleischmann! Ride Photo.https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/13682212644/in/photostream/ I still find it amazing that these bikes are at home on singletrack, dirt, and gravel as much as they are on a smooth road. Love it. Avery in Indianapolis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Using my Sam as a commuter
I'm a bike commuter, ~6 miles one-way into Cambridge MA, ~40-min door-to-door. I'm fortunate to have secure bike parking and a shower at work. My Hunqapillar is setup with Big Bens (559BSD; ~52mm wide), which are terrific over the potholes and debris. I try to take hard-packed dirt trails, and they transition from road-to-trail and back quite well. I have VO ATB fenders to keep me dry. I've used Noodles and bullmoose (non-Bosco), which are setup with cable splitters for easy swaps (takes 10 min). Either are fine, and variety is good... but I think I prefer the Noodles for commuting. There are some stretches where the headwinds can be terrible, and the drop position makes it less unbearable. For luggage, I've moved around from front basket+shop sack to medium saddlesack to small saddlesack and back. I like 'em all! There's no one way for me. I think I could go to one bike, if I was willing to use the Hunqapillar through the slush/salt winter roads. (That stuff's brutal on the mechanicals!) All I know is that I love my commute. Happy riding, Shoji On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:28:08 AM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote: This weeks experiment, well maybe the next two weeks, will be using my Sam Hillborne as a commuter. I built the bike up as a leisurely Sunday bike to ride with my wife though I started thinking the bike could do more. I was inspired by a thread last year Could you own one bike? The answer for me was no, but I could trim down the number of bikes I own. I want to minimize and plus I don't have room as I live in a condo and bike parking has become an issue. There hasn't been a lot of talk about using Riv's as commuters on this board and even Rivendell doesn't seem to push the commuting aspect for their bikes. The Sam to me, might make a good commuter. My commutes are 60 minutes each way, so nothing drastic. It is set up with Albatross's and a Brooks B67, plus the required basket and Mark's rack. The bike currently has Hetre's but I think I will use a pair of Marathons that I also own. I will pick up SKS Longboards today and if the experiment works, a new dynamo front wheel will be built. Ninety five percent of my cycling is commuting so I really need to like the bike I ride. I am hoping the Sam will fit that bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mt. Brake levers on Mustache Bars?
Hi Tim, You can get new non-aero brake levers from Velo Orange: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers.html I have 'em set up on my moustache bar, and I much prefer the non-aero cable routing for moustache bars. (VO also has non-aero brake hoods.) Also, some people have set up moustache bars with inverse levers. IIRC, there's a Riv in the Flickr group with inverse levers. --shoji On Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:38:27 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote: Non-aero brake levers fit the moustache bar diameter (23.8mm), and have the same cable routing (in this usage) as MTB brake levers. Think the old Campy SR/NR ones, where the cable exits the pointy top of the lever. However, no one sells a new/reproduction non-aero lever. I've been keeping my eye out for a vintage set with good hoods for a while. Bike swaps are coming up! All the ones at my local co-ops have either missing or nasty hoods, or have turkey levers. I'll probably end up with a nasty pair and buy replacement hoods. Tim On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Jim M. math...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: On Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:32:17 AM UTC-7, r.s...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Forgive me if this has been covered. Are there manufactured any Mt. brake levers that can be used on mustache bars? I do not like those reverse levers that mount into the bar ends, either. Thanks! Do you dislike road levers? That's what I've always used and they fit the look of the bar better, imho, than mtn levers. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger
fun read-- sounds like a great ride. Thx! On Monday, April 14, 2014 3:41:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again. After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first thought I had was, eff it, I'm going to Crown Point. I have evidence of this: https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737 But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant. I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind. The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON. The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for the stairs. Oh god the stairs. The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less guns on the wall and more waterfront dining. Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE CHEEZBURGER FOR ME. I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this before--riding gets easier when it's cooler. So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; the stars were out and the moon was nearly full. I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day. Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more rides that go late into the night. ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Albastache conversion Complete!
great job, Patrick. It usually takes me a season or two before I tape my h-bars. I enjoy bar swaps as they really change the feel of the bike. Enjoy the new [handling] bike! --shoji On Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm pretty sure Newbaum and Rivendell are colluding in color coordination cahoots. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, April 13, 2014 12:24:39 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Thanks! Perfect color bartape for that bike. Looks great! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Enjoy
I'm supposed to wait two hours for the Boeshield to dry? To quote the DP, Och! I guess I've been doing it wrong all along... or you can say that's my different philosophy. Spray/wipe/go. --shoji On Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:53:31 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: A lot has been written about differing personalities and philosophies, sometimes it's about trail or tube thickness, sometimes it's about suppleness, or what have you, but I was doing some drivetrain cleaning and I was wondering about the whole greasing square taper vs dry fitting, and of course I was searching the Internet, where I came across this post from Jan: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/to-grease-or-not-to-grease/ But the point of the matter isn't the technical debate between greasing or not greasing (for the record I put a tiny bit of grease on the taper, like I was applying ointment), but one of the last phrases in the post: ...put them back on, and enjoy them some more. I was struck by the poetry of this statement. I guess that's the point of this whole exercise. We enjoy our bicycles; They give us joy. The joy of movement and flying, the joy of conquering a climb, the joy of a quiet vista with no one in sight. And the joy of riding with cherished friends. So anyway, while I'm waiting the next two hours for the boeshield to dry on my chain, I'd to wish everyone joy. ...and enjoy them some more. Cheers cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar swap question
Hi DS, Congrats on the Hunqapillar! Shifters: The MTN vs Road bar thing: you might want to consider the IRD Silver SOS thumbies offered by Riv. Unlike the Paul thumbies, which are for specific h-bar diameters, the SOS thumbies come with shims. You can swap between MTN and Road bars by moving the SOS +/- shim. With a set each of MTN and road brake levers, you'd be all set to try a whole bunch of set ups. Alternatively, if you're ok with it, down tube shifters would obviate the change shifter issue. A quill shifter mount would also do the trick. (I'm a thumbies and bar-end shifter sort of guy, so I'll deal with the swaps. If you're into swapping on a 10-min whim, you can get a set of DaVinci splitters. I think Ritchey offers a similar splitter.) Grips: I usually run bars without tape until I get the brake levers just right. If that's not your thing, bar tape wraps quickly and is inexpensive. Clamp-on grips would work, too. The downside to the cork grips is the glue part-- some use tape or hairspray to get the grips on without using glue. I'd also recommend Spur Cycles grip rings. (http://spurcycle.com/griprings.html) They are silicone and comfy. I have them on my crosscheck, and they are fairly easy on/off. Stems: Stem length can make a huge difference in comfort. dougP mentioned removable face plate for swaps-- you can combine that and stem changes by using a threadless stem adaptor. VO and Nitto (probably others) make them. You can then use fairly inexpensive threadless stems to dial in the proper stem length. I think Marc Irwin who posts to this list has his Hunqapillar set up with one of these stems. Good luck and enjoy the ride! Shoji On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:15:58 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I haven't tried the moustache bars so I can't directly answer your question. A backdoor answer is that I tried the Albatross bars upside down and as high as I could get them with my stem. They were not comfortable at all for me. The Albatross below saddle height didn't feel right, but getting it at or 1 above saddle height and every things perfect so far. You are right, the Bullmoose and Albatross bars would swap easily. Just remove shifters/brakes (presuming thumbie shifters) and swap. Your screw on grips would work for that also. It's when you cross the threshold between mtn and road that things get more complicated. For the Albatross conversion I needed to redo the brake and derailure cables, new brake levers, and switch to bar end shifters, plus I needed a new stem (I would have anyway because I needed a 3 cm shorter stem for the Albastaches). That's a LOT more work and I needed time to be sure I couldn't get the Albatross to work for me before I was willing to go that route. I am delighted I did! Whatever end up working for you you'll have some grand times figuring it out! With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:34:35 AM UTC-6, DS wrote: Hey Patrick - I have watched that thread. My hesitation there is that I recently put some moustache bars on an old Trek road bike and wasn't really into them. Admittedly that was a road bike and not on trails, but riding in the drops never felt right to me. But I understand that the Albastache has more shallow drops, and are not very comparable to Moustache? I'm actually heading to Rivendell HQ today to return something, so will check it out. My big question is around understanding the ease of handlebar swaps, if it is easy enough I may just go bullmoose and albatross and try them both, and thanks for pointing out on the other drop bars about the diameter, didn't think of that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
Hi Zack, I think Chris Chen suggested in another thread to swap the upper and lower derailer pulleys to reduce/eliminate ghost shifting. (Upper pulley floats in order to accommodate index shifting.) Did you also try this on your set up? --shoji On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:57:12 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: Deacon - I suspect most of this is due to me being close to being in gear but not actually in gear, after having eliminated all of the other known suspects (loose washer on silver shifters, bent derailer hanger, etc.). It happens at the start of climbs, and is worse when the bike is loaded up. It usually happens when I am suddenly putting more pressure on the pedals than a light spinning motion - like standing up to pedal, etc. It also has the added impact of causing my balky knee to go through a false top step phenomenon, so it causes me some on-bike trepidation. I'd like to eliminate as much of it as I can by trying a new cassette and seeing how the 7's live. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: SKF Bottom Bracket for Homer Hilsen
White Industries VBC Mountain for Hunqapillar generally takes a 113 bottom bracket. On Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:06:00 AM UTC-4, Marcus80 wrote: Does anyone know the optimal width for an SKS BB on an AHH running a Sugino triple to a SRAM 9sp on a Phil Wood cassette rear on a standard Dyad? Also, same BB and wheel but on a Hunqapillar with a white industries VBC double? Thanks a lotMark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What do you do on your Birthaday?
Happy Birthday, Hugh! And many more with riding and tea. On Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:50:33 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Don't they! Can't imagine not having a ride on one's birthday. Thanks Chris. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.orgjavascript: wrote: Fantastic report. Excellent pictures. Birthday rides always have a special quality On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: If I could I'd edit that damn heading with the correct spelling Birthday damn it. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:34 AM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: This is what I decided to do. Herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ Have a great day! ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/z9z0AhJgLuM/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/z9z0AhJgLuM/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Errandonnee Runner
Hey Patrick, I'm really happy to hear about how the bike (a Hunqapillar no less!) has changed your life. I've learned a lot from you and many on this board. The Errandonnee patch is from Mary G's Winter Challenge: http://chasingmailboxes.com/2014/03/04/winter-challenge-the-errandonnee-2014-edition/ She's a sometimes poster, quite often Quickbeamer, and I think there are a few more Rivs in their home. IIRC, Tony D's agapanthus purple 'luki was featured in her flickr stream. For those beer inclined, there's a Brewvet in the works May 1 - June 10. happy riding, shoji On Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:03:12 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Deacon, I love that notion. I need to find that patch. Yes I agree the bicycle is therapeutic...cause it works for me. ~Hugh On Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:17:30 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Shojo’s photo, https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/14001712894/, reminded me: With my wimpy brain, it’s not often I get to ride Errandonnees, but they’ve been happening more often since I got the Post to agree to bring my mail outside to me (it is so scented inside I can’t go in to get our mail from our box), and today I popped to the LBS and bought what I needed from the front porch, with the owner being very helpful, bringing things out for me to choose between. Then I hit some nearby sloppy melting single track and had coffee outside. It was a grand morning! It’s not much, but my world is expanding bit by bit, in part thanks to me bike. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
