CSRE: Diagram - design
*-A nice diagram is illustrated there. I beliele it's stated there that 7.5ppm/quart can be attained in 1.5hrs w/ the ingot. (I hope that's not 75ppm!) Does anyone here know whether an adequate and sufficient Ag ppm can be achieved with this technique? What are your thoughts on the design in the diagram? Anyone with any more info or suggestions or ideas? *TIA! The design, as illustrated, will have a strong tendency to produce silver crystals, as the water volume is far too large for the electrode area and the water surface is in contact with the electrode. The best solution, if you want to build your own, is to run a smaller batch, mix or circulate the water and insulate the top of your electrodes where they meet the water surface. It can not make a 75PPM colloid, but with the poor design could make 75PPM of silver crystals! Most of these will settle and the total dissolved solids will typically be 10-15PPM. You must remember PPM is a measure by weight, while TDS is what is in solution! This type, if left running overnight will usually cover the top of the water with a shiny silver mirror! f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRE:Ivan CS PPM Standard
Ivan said: So yesterday I hit the books etc. and found that the conductivity of dilute solutions of silver ions is 61.9 Scm^2 M^-1 that is Semen centimetre squared per Mol. This is probably where Hanna derived their 1.6 conversion factor, but this refers to Mols of silver not ppm. When converted to mg/L we find that: 1mg/L (1ppm) Ag+ = .574 uS/cm or 1uS = 1.74ppm -- I am at a loss, as I can not recall the definition of a MOL - gram molecular??? I respect your theory but find it hard to believe Hanna has been selling mis- calibrated instruments for 20 years without their peers slamming them! Do you have a web source for the 61.9 Scm^2 M^-1 that is Semen centimetre squared per Mol. (think you ment uS/cm and Siemen? or are we talking 61,900 micro-Seimen - again forgot what a mol is) This is rather distressing, to become so unsure of who to respect, do you or anyone else have a web based scientific encyclopedia source? The poor folks who do not enjoy trying to understand the techi stuff must really be lost! f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
Everyone has their own opinion. Garlic is said by some to sort of slow one's mental processes. I think that everything should be in moderation. I do not take garlic everyday. But it is high in sulfur, very important to protein binding, and it has a natural antibiotic. Some say a clove a day would keep the doctor away. I believe that it is more beneficial than harmful. I have heard this theory that goes like this: man was once able to live very long, close to a thousand years old, but mankind in general did not use their time on earth wisely. Instead of living lives of continual progress and enlightenment, man used the time to cycle through periods of righteousness, wickedness, repentance and then more wickedness. Then God became very tired of this and corrupted the food and water, so that these long lives were no longer possible. He wanted man to appreciate his time on earth and be motivated to use it more productively. Some would argue that this is also when we in general started having more lives than one, the work one needed to accomplish continued in the next life. Lessons learned in sequential lives, but it says in scripture that there will come a time in which no work can be performed. I believe that the food chain and herbs and such are corrupted such that they have both good and bad in them, for example spinach has something in it which blocks calcium, yet it has iron. So use them wisely, and in moderation. Hard to do sometimes. Kris ps hope you do not mind my sharing your comment and my response. I have heard that garlic is bad before. I have also seen with my own eyes the antibiotic in garlic work. According to Dr Bob Beck garlic is something to lie down and avoid!!! (my own words!!!). Casette tapes which cover this are available from: Transformation Technologies PO Box 2698 North Hills, CA. 91393 (818) 830-1913 Fax (818)830-5074 E-Mail ri...@wgn.net They're well worth listening to!! Sincerely, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS**CS and baby chicks??
CS friends, Can one give CS to baby chicks, would it help with coccidiosis? I am new to being a chick mom and just wondered. They are about 10 days old Thanks much, Debbie -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSBAKING somethhing
Thanks for sharing.. There was a hole in my memories of fourth grade science. I do however, remember, that the point of any experiment , was a scientific method. Tim: In case you were not paying attention, explitive, someone asked if baking soda was bad for one or not. Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS**CS and baby chicks??
Hi Debbie: I do know that H2O2 will solve any disease that chickens may have, you may wish to check this out. Ted Debbie McDonald wrote: CS friends, Can one give CS to baby chicks, would it help with coccidiosis? I am new to being a chick mom and just wondered. They are about 10 days old Thanks much, Debbie -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
Dear Kris Nicely put! Your philosophy is a sensible one! Yes, I believe garlic does affect the brain's functioning - however, I shouldn't reference someone without doing it verbatim. I'm happy to source this if anyone needs it!! But I do know that I feel slightly stultified after eating garlic which I love - some dishes just aren't right without it!! A friend of mine said when he was undergoing military training he came across a soldier dipping his bullets in a bowl of crushed garlic. He was told that with the garlic, even if the bullet only causes a 'nick' it is still fatal! I've also heard that some arrow-hunters follow this practice with their arrow-tips too, as it is lethal once in the bloodstream! Breathe lightly Bye, Yvonne -Original Message- From: Kris [mailto:photo...@powernet.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:15 AM To: o2c...@global.co.za; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil Everyone has their own opinion. Garlic is said by some to sort of slow one's mental processes. I think that everything should be in moderation. I do not take garlic everyday. But it is high in sulfur, very important to protein binding, and it has a natural antibiotic. Some say a clove a day would keep the doctor away. I believe that it is more beneficial than harmful. I have heard this theory that goes like this: man was once able to live very long, close to a thousand years old, but mankind in general did not use their time on earth wisely. Instead of living lives of continual progress and enlightenment, man used the time to cycle through periods of righteousness, wickedness, repentance and then more wickedness. Then God became very tired of this and corrupted the food and water, so that these long lives were no longer possible. He wanted man to appreciate his time on earth and be motivated to use it more productively. Some would argue that this is also when we in general started having more lives than one, the work one needed to accomplish continued in the next life. Lessons learned in sequential lives, but it says in scripture that there will come a time in which no work can be performed. I believe that the food chain and herbs and such are corrupted such that they have both good and bad in them, for example spinach has something in it which blocks calcium, yet it has iron. So use them wisely, and in moderation. Hard to do sometimes. Kris ps hope you do not mind my sharing your comment and my response. I have heard that garlic is bad before. I have also seen with my own eyes the antibiotic in garlic work. According to Dr Bob Beck garlic is something to lie down and avoid!!! (my own words!!!). Casette tapes which cover this are available from: Transformation Technologies PO Box 2698 North Hills, CA. 91393 (818) 830-1913 Fax (818)830-5074 E-Mail ri...@wgn.net They're well worth listening to!! Sincerely, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRE:Ivan CS PPM Standard
- Original Message - From: Fred f...@health2us.com Ivan said: So yesterday I hit the books etc. and found that the conductivity of dilute solutions of silver ions is 61.9 Scm^2 M^-1 that is Semen centimetre squared per Mol. This is probably where Hanna derived their 1.6 conversion factor, but this refers to Mols of silver not ppm. When converted to mg/L we find that: 1mg/L (1ppm) Ag+ = .574 uS/cm or 1uS = 1.74ppm -- I am at a loss, as I can not recall the definition of a MOL - gram molecular??? 1mole = 6.02 x 10^23 atoms (or molecules, Avogadro's number) and is equal to the atomic weight expressed as grams. In the case of silver 1mole = 107.87 grams. I respect your theory but find it hard to believe Hanna has been selling mis- calibrated instruments for 20 years without their peers slamming them! Do you have a web source for the 61.9 Scm^2 M^-1 that is Semen centimetre squared per Mol. http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/plambeck//che/p415/p15062.htm (think you ment uS/cm and Siemen? or are we talking 61,900 micro-Seimen - again forgot what a mol is) (I wonder if there is a relationship between Avogadro's number and Semen) Hanna's instruments are not mis-calibrated, they read the conductivity of the solution, and their standard solutions are certified correct (NIST traceable), but the conversion factors for the small TDS meters are only *near enough* and follow the industry standard. Take the conversion factor of 0.5 (or 2) for CaCO3 for example, the conversion factor is never reached in real solutions, see: http://www.omega.com/techref/ph-2.html CaCO3 is a special case (2 x bivalent atoms) and does not follow the conductivity rules of univalent atoms (I should never have included it), but because it is a common dissolved solid and its molecular weight of 100.09, it is easy to use in the *equivalent weight method* ie molecular weight divided by the valency per uS. As for silver, I think that Hanna have simply said decided that its molecular weight (107.87) is close enough to 100 that the ppm ratio is directly related to the molarity of an aqueous solution 100 to 1. Which gives (ignoring how the units were derived) 0.619 uS per ppm. Taking the inverse we find 1.62ppm per uS. However, if we use the actual mw of silver we have a ratio of 108 to 1 then 0.619 x 100 / 108 = 0.573 uS / ppm... or 1.74 ppm / uS. I derived this result for a number of compounds using the individual limiting ionic conductances, notably Na+, K+ and Cl- and was able to check my results with published results for NaCl and KCl with good correlation, especially after factoring in the change in conductance in relation to the concentration as described by Kohlrausch's Law and as developed in the Debye - Huckel - Onsager theory. A discussion on the conductivity of ions can be found in Physical Chemistry - Atkins which most libraries should have, one can read the theory without needing to understand the maths. This is rather distressing, to become so unsure of who to respect, do you or anyone else have a web based scientific encyclopedia source? The poor folks who do not enjoy trying to understand the techi stuff must really be lost! I should think that quite a few silvertails will be interested in the outcome of these discussions, if only in that the conclusion may be that a cheap conductivity meter can provide reliable concentration information for silver colloids or sols fitting certain parameters. I only include the method and maths so that others who are competant can verify or refute my conclusions, or for those who are just plain interested. The rest may simply ignore these messages. f...@health2us.com heads up - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver coins; as electrodes?
Good question. I thank all for their responses to MY query re. using 0. silver ingots or coins, but my question was more one of what the PPM would likely end up, as compared to using a 14 gauge electrode/ probe, which is recommended by many. I can get . pure silver coins in troy ounces here (*Though coins, they're sold more for their silver content rather than as monetary units). They are gov't certified to be PURE silver (.). I know what's in them. These are what I had in mind. --I can also get the .999 fine silver wire, but without an assay certificate I'm leery as to impurities. Beyond that, I still wonder how effective the 'chunks' of pure silver would be as opposed to the fine wires dipping into the liquid as the Ag is charged and dispersed as in, efficiency, time frames, ppm, etc. The excellent diagram showing the process in question (a CS generator), again, can be linked to here: http://www.homehealthresource.net/csilvergen.html Thanks so much! Great Listserv! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSppm standard - 1.74PPM/uS
Ivan- Do you mean 3ppm TDS or 3uS. 3ppm I must say that even my dw that has been around for months still reads 1uS. I should clarify. The 3ppm is due to the calibration technique required by the 3-electrode CS Systems Phaser unit I'm using. Baking soda is added to pure water to bring the conductivity up to 3ppm (measured by the TDS meter). The Phaser won't work without an initial conductivity that is roughly equivalent to 3ppm. This initial 3ppmTDS measurement corresponds to 6uS on the PWT meter - which correlates to the conversion that Hanna gave me of 1ppm = 2 uS when measuring dissolved solids in water. Does this make any sense at all?!!? cheers, Steve King Regards - Ivan - Original Message - From: Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 1999 00:15 Subject: Re: CSppm standard - 1.74PPM/uS Ivan- As Ag+ 5ppm 1.76 2.8uS 10ppm 1.76 5.7uS 15ppm 1.77 8.5uS 20ppm 1.77 11.3uS 25ppm 1.78 14.0uS 50ppm 1.79 27.9uS I've got a Hanna PWT (0-100uS) meter and I'm very interested in these figures. How do I take into account the initial TDS of the batch water. say for instance I start with water that has a TDS of 3ppm and then after my run I measure 11.3uS? Do I subract the 3 from 20ppm? Many thanx, Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSColloid? was baking soda
- Original Message - From: Tim Cudzilo t...@primenet.com snip Eventually, (and hopefully) this list will recognize the the maximum effacy of suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution. Oh man, where have you been? Do you think we don't realise that by sending a current through a couple of silver electrodes immersed in water that charged silver particles enter the water. The Ag+ particles give the solution its charge. Chemical reactions take place between charged atoms and complexes. I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to an electroscope. Thats because, like you, we have moved on from 4th grade science. If you want to know if your solution has a charge, dip your millivoltmeter electrodes in it. Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light. Not strictly true. Certain wavelengths of light have enough energy to cause a change in charge state of silver ions. Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver. CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all. Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the suspending medium. In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs. If one were to pick a few eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them heavier than the rest, and put them back, - that would be a true colloid. Are you making this up? Shaving cream is a colloidal system, as is beer, milk, mayonaise. The definition of a colloidal system is small 'particles' of one substance distributed more or less uniformly throughout another. This latter phase is continuous whilst the 'particles' are discontinuous. The continuous phase may be a gas, liquid, or solid whilst the discontinuous phase may also be a gas, liquid or solid. The system will be colloidal if the 'particles' are sufficiently small and that usually means less than about 1um in at least one important dimension. - Introduction to Modern Colloid Science...Hunter. Whilst colloidal silver systems, properly called silver sols or colloidal sols, approach the dimensions of true solutions and exhibit little or no difference from true solutions, they are regarded as colloidal if the size of the particle falls between 1 - 1000 nm. They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were heavier ( because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not enough to displace pink fish eggs around them. If the container were vibrated, they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules. That is because fish eggs do not fit the colloidal dimension. The particles in colloidal silver will be denser at the bottom of the solution than at the top, due to gravity, by a very small degree. You have no understanding of the complex interaction of forces at work which keep particles suspended in a collodal system. Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out. The silver particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball machine. The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen eventually. This is probably true, but I have litres of light yellow cs that have no fall out after 15 months and still retain the same charge. If the silver particles have like charges however, they will continually repel each other, or swim. As long as they remain charged, they are viable swimmers. The nature of things is that all charged things seek equilibrium. Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach stability. Stability or equalibrium does not require the giving up of charge. If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient to change (or in this case nullify) a positive charge on a silver particle. A photon is what? Why would this 'photon' strike a silver particle and not a water molecule through which it must travel? Far ultraviolet light has enough energy to alter the water in such a way as to have an effect on the positive silver charge(reduction). Incidental light does not. At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver. Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of oxidation. Positively charged silver particles are already oxidised (lost an electron). In many ways, what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to worming your dog. You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough to kill the host. Which, is fine. Your immune system needs all the help it can get. Phew! You would all do well to test the charge of your solutions. With an electroscope? Regards - Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSppm standard - 1.74PPM/uS
Steve, What does Bruce have to say on the matter? Does the baking soda (CaCO3?) react at all with the silver? If not, then it will always be present as Ca++ and CO3-- ions and will affect the reading by the original ppm or uS reading. Why don't you try adding some cs to reach the same start up reading? Ivan. - Original Message - From: Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 1999 23:25 Subject: Re: CSppm standard - 1.74PPM/uS Ivan- Do you mean 3ppm TDS or 3uS. 3ppm I must say that even my dw that has been around for months still reads 1uS. I should clarify. The 3ppm is due to the calibration technique required by the 3-electrode CS Systems Phaser unit I'm using. Baking soda is added to pure water to bring the conductivity up to 3ppm (measured by the TDS meter). The Phaser won't work without an initial conductivity that is roughly equivalent to 3ppm. This initial 3ppmTDS measurement corresponds to 6uS on the PWT meter - which correlates to the conversion that Hanna gave me of 1ppm = 2 uS when measuring dissolved solids in water. Does this make any sense at all?!!? cheers, Steve King Regards - Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSPulsed DC method
20kHz pulsed frequency Web site of Pulsed DC generator used http://web.idirect.com~showcase/althealth/cspulse.htm Please note that the above URL is missing a forward slash. the correct web address is. . . http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/cspulse.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS -Shelf stable
Apart from that it is not true. - Original Message - From: Deborah IN TEXAS thean...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 23 October 1999 14:40 Subject: CS -Shelf stable Fred, todays post on this HV article says ONLY HV process can create shelf stable CS, or does it even matter, since I have my machine and can generate fresh batches as needed. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver questions
June- away. I'm taking the CS from our small home unit, but it appears to be doing nothing. I think we have to be careful thinking that the ingestion of one substance can solve all our problems. CS as with any remedy works best as part of a holistic program that supplies the body with the nutrients, rest, exercise, air, sunshine, mental state, and so on that it needs. (But you knew that!) Someone on this list once said that they were getting nowhere with CS against flu or some ailment. . . and then they happened to take some wheat grass juice, which has tons of vitamins, minerals, enzymes, etc. So evidently, in that case, their body didn't have the resources it needed to get better even with the help of CS - until the wheat grass was added to the equation. The problem with this theory is that the missing ingredient for holistic treatment seems to vary greatly from person to person and ailment to ailment. Finding the right holistic mix is sometimes like finding a needle in a haystack - or like a similar overused metaphorical phrase of your choice. . . holy grail, fountain of youth, secret of life. . . That said, you might try another CS generator or some commercial made product. If you are really confident in the quality of your CS, you will feel better about drinking larger amounts. Right now I'm trying to correct an allergy situation by drinking around 20 - 30 oz per day of approx 20 ppm sol. I won't do this forever but I believe its a viable short term therapy. best - Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSWhat am I making ?? c/gold
The standard reduction potential of gold is Au --- Au+++ +3e- 1.4 volts or Au+ --- Au+ + e- 1.69 volts So you will have a gold sol. I believe this can take a little time and you may be wise to limit the current, sounds the gold is burnt. Ivan. - Original Message - From: P Yanko eagl...@xtra.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 24 October 1999 09:40 Subject: CSWhat am I making ?? c/gold trying c/gold A little bit of experimenting has produced a clear solution with a very faint tinge almost akin to a blue tropical lagoon. . 2 electrodes 99% Gold .7 mil dia 1' wetted. spacing 2.5mm, volts 36. Dc current increased from 1ma to 30 ma after 12 days. hard black crud on electrodes, (had to scrape it off) normal room temp (not heated water) No fallout. using steam distilled water. no starter solution. no additives good tyndall effect. Does anyone have any idea what I have made, I sure dont. P Yanko -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSCorrection on CS PRO Systems Phaser cost
Dear all- I have to apologize to Bruce Marks for misrepresenting his CS systems. I said in an early testimonial that his Phaser unit costs $350 dollars. I just learned that he now has a more complete line of Phasers that start at $99. I don't think he had a low cost unit when I bought mine. Sorry for the confusion. please see this URL for the whole story. .. http://www.csprosystems.com/PulsePhasicCompare.html best - Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Bill, I think is a fancy name, to cover the real thing... I am pretty sure this thing do not contains oxygen or at least we cannot find traces analyzing this at the University... but it is working, we made a comparative study with 20 patients, using Peroxide and ozone against the polyatomic oxygen and the results were really positive with the P. O2. No results or poor results or inconsistent results (if any) with the peroxide or ozone. or really slwly. The patients (similar conditions, same kind of cancer, the response of improvement was from day 1 to day 2 really notorious. Alex -Original Message- From: Bill Schramm [mailto:wschr...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 12:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Hello Dr. Torres -- is polyatomic oxygen a fancy name for ozone or super-oxygen? or is it something else. thanks. -Original Message- From: Alex C Torres compu_...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 2:45 AM Subject: RE: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Dear Dana, Where is located this girl? Maybe the D.K. machine or the Vibroclast can help her... just a tough... or the Polyatomic Oxygen? To us the P. Atomic Oxygen is giving really amazing results! Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: den...@perle.com [mailto:den...@perle.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 3:10 PM To: silverl...@eskimo.com Subject: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Hello CS listers- This is completely off topic and I apologize for that but I am devastated at the news I received today. I am asking for any help you wonderful people might have because I do not know where else to turn. A very dear friend of mine has a 7 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with an inoperable brain glioma. Up until today, she has been in a research program for a new type of chemotherapy that has worked to keep the cancer isolated and under control. Today, they were told that she must go off of the program because there is a high risk of Leukemia associated with the dosage of chemo she has been receiving. The hospital and doctors will not take responsibility for this have essentially told them that there is nothing else they will do for her. Unfortunately, I am not a doctor and do not know any other details regarding the type of chemo she was receiving. I only know that thus far it has helped keep her here with us and now her parents fear the worst. Please, if anyone has any info at all, could you share it with me. If you would prefer, you can email me directly at den...@perle.com. Thank you all so much...please say a prayer for the Henry family...they really need it. Dana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSppm standard - 1.74PPM/uS
Ivan- What does Bruce have to say on the matter? Bruce says (of course) that he has lab tested it extensively and the baking soda does not react. And according to a post by Brooks awhile back, the baking soda may even extended shelf life by adjusting PH. Why don't you try adding some cs to reach the same start up reading? Excellent point. I asked Bruce about this and he says that the conductivity of his CS is so low that you would have to add too much. The calibration procedure uses a solution of approx 950 ppm CaCO3 sol administered in eye dropper doses. Please see this URL for details.. . http://www.csprosystems.com/PhaserProInstructions.html ( Actually, I think I -will- try the CS seed starter method, just for the sake of experience.) Many thanks - Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSIs HVAC method better?
Hi, Terence here from Malaysia. I am pretty new to CS. Is the HVAC processing method better than the standard CD method? I would like to know, how come some companies are selling 5ppm to 7 ppm at the price of 30ppm to 50 ppm ? What is the major difference? Thanks. Any advice will be much appreciated. Regards, Terence. - Webtrent Technology - We are ready Direct Line: (6)07-7718466, HP No: 012-7220590 Top-Notch Artistic Web Design Manager/Web Developer, terence_...@webtrent.com http://www.webtrent.com.my , http://www.webtrent.com http://www.esiapa.com.my , http://www.esiapa.com - -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
Kris wrote: Everyone has their own opinion. Garlic is said by some to sort of slow one's mental processes. I think that everything should be in moderation. I do not take garlic everyday. But it is high in sulfur, very important to protein binding, and it has a natural antibiotic. Some say a clove a day would keep the doctor away. I believe that it is more beneficial than harmful. I have heard this theory that goes like this: man was once able to live very long, close to a thousand years old, but mankind in general did not use their time on earth wisely. Instead of living lives of continual progress and enlightenment, man used the time to cycle through periods of righteousness, wickedness, repentance and then more wickedness. Then God became very tired of this and corrupted the food and water, so that these long lives were no longer possible. He wanted man to appreciate his time on earth and be motivated to use it more productively. Some would argue that this is also when we in general started having more lives than one, the work one needed to accomplish continued in the next life. Lessons learned in sequential lives, but it says in scripture that there will come a time in which no work can be performed. According to the Sumarian writings as translated by Stitchin (Ie. The 12th Planet) this is close, but it was actually aliens (which were referred to as gods, but not God) that modified the environment and our dna for shorter life spans to keep us from getting too wise and becomming a threat. Interesting reading. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSDoggy-itis
Hi Any suggestions will be appreciated - My hunky male German Shepherd who is 8+ years old seem to have a sprinkler problem. He is dripping sporadically, drops of diluted blood. Doesn't seem to be in discomfort and is sprinkling about the place okay! He had this before and was put on anti-biotics but it has recurred. I'm giving him cs and spraying directly as well - in fact when he sees us approach with the spray bottle, he rolls over and lifts his leg for his treatment and then opens his mouth for an oral dose too! Thanks! Yvonne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSPulsed DC Test Results
Reference: http://web.idirect.com~showcase/althealth/cspulse.htm Setup: 8oz distilled water in clear glass(no starters or salt added) 1/16 inch wide flat silver electrodes 2 1/2 wettec length Electrode spacing 1/2 inch Pulsed DC generator per above referenced web site Pulse rate(frequency) 23.809KHz Duty cycle on 54.54% off 45.45% water temp around 70 degress F Electrodes wiped after run completed 20 min. run: Start: .19ma @ 8.13V(measured at electrodes with VOM) (duty cycle affects the measurements) For comparison with DC units(no pulsing) 8.13/.5454 = 14.9VDC Pulses(checked with O'scope) .19ma/.5454 = .348ma End: .8...@7.74v .85/.5454 = 1.56ma @7.74/.5454 = 14.19VDC Check CS resistance: Wiped Electrodes Measurement 1: Applied(to electrodes); 16.19VDC Current draw = .63ma V=IR; 16.19/.63ma = 25.698Kohms Measurement 2: Stirred solution, waited 1 hour Applied(to electrodes); 16.26VDC Current draw = .71ma V=IR; 16.26/.71ma = 22.901Kohms Measurement 3: 12 - 14 hours after solution made Condition change: Water temp around 55 degrees F Applied(to electrodes); 16.36VDC Current draw = .51ma V=IR; 16.36/.51ma = 32.05Kohms 40 min. run: Start: .19ma @ 8.13V(measured at electrodes with VOM) (duty cycle affects the measurements) For comparison with DC units(no pulsing) 8.13/.5454 = 14.9VDC Pulses(checked with O'scope) .19ma/.5454 = .348ma End: 1...@7.74v 1/.5454 = 1.83ma @7.74/.5454 = 14.19VDC Check CS resistance: Wiped Electrodes Measurement 1: Applied(to electrodes); 16.16VDC Current draw = 1.44ma V=IR; 16.16/1.44ma = 11.22Kohms Measurement 2: Stirred solution, waited 1 hour Applied(to electrodes); 16.20VDC Current draw = 1.13ma V=IR; 16.20/1.13ma = 14.336Kohms Measurement 3: 12 - 14 hours after solution made Condition change: Water temp around 55 degrees F Applied(to electrodes); 16.36VDC Current draw = .74ma V=IR; 16.36/.74ma = 22.18Kohms 180 min. run: Yellow tint Start: .19ma @ 8.13V(measured at electrodes with VOM) (duty cycle affects the measurements) For comparison with DC units(no pulsing) 8.13/.5454 = 14.9VDC Pulses(checked with O'scope) .19ma/.5454 = .348ma End: 1.8...@7.74v 1.84/.5454 = 3.37ma @7.74/.5454 = 14.19VDC Check CS resistance: Wiped Electrodes Measurement 3: 12 - 14 hours after solution made Condition change: Water temp around 55 degrees F Applied(to electrodes); 16.31VDC Current draw = 2.11ma V=IR; 16.31/2.11ma = 7.72Kohms Conclusions: Still don't know what PPM I have but I do have somthing to compare to for my future CS solutions. Voltage needs to be regulated. Current needs to be limited to around .5ma(.5ma/.5454=.916ma) at electrodes. Why? I noticed at around .4ma tiny bubbles
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
According to the Sumarian writings as translated by Stitchin (Ie. The 12th Planet) this is close, but it was actually aliens (which were referred to as gods, but not God) that modified the environment and our dna for shorter life spans to keep us from getting too wise and becomming a threat. Interesting reading. Marshall Only interesting? I think I've read every book in the series :) Yours in health, James Allison Allisons Apothecary http://apothecary.hypermart.net Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSdiagram/design
The design illustrated is for a standard 3 9volt battery setup! It is the same one a lot of us are using, except it uses ingots instead of wires. It is fine to use a quart mason jar it is not too much volume! I make mine like this all the time. If the electrodes don't come into contact with the water how would you make cs!!??? Your reply to Tia is misleading and ridiculous. This will not produce silver crystals or flakes on the water surface. How about it techies what do you say? Tia don't panic Fred has his info all wrong. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSDoggy-itis
Sounds like your dog has a urinary tract infection. Be careful that he doesn't get blocked. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
According to the Sumarian writings as translated by Stitchin (Ie. The 12th Planet) this is close, but it was actually aliens (which were referred to as gods, but not God) that modified the environment and our dna for shorter life spans to keep us from getting too wise and becoming a threat. Interesting reading. Marshall Dear Marshall, I`ve read all his books too, and they ARE interesting! Hmm, I wonder if THEY will return in 2013... Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSDoggy-itis
Janine/Gary wrote: Sounds like your dog has a urinary tract infection. Be careful that he doesn't get blocked. Indeed, that happened to Smokey a few games ago and I thought UT might have to get a new mascot. : Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
Marsha Hallett wrote: Dear Marshall, I`ve read all his books too, and they ARE interesting! Hmm, I wonder if THEY will return in 2013... Marsha Possibly, if not before. The sun suppose to start acting really weird upon their return (or the return of the planet), and it has really been flaking out the last few months. Huge solar flares and CMEs, weird things showing up on the SOHO pictures (many look like flying saucers), and more sun spots than normal during a solar maximum, and that is still a few months off. Astronomers just announced that they have detected a new really big planet outside the solar system lately as well. At any rate, I think we are going to have some really interesting times ahead. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Hi Deborah, I find that chopping the kernels up with other nuts in my home made cereal to munch on like a snack is the easiest way to take them. Still not great, but much more acceptable. Keep smiling, Kass - Original Message - From: Deborah IN TEXAS thean...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 2:13 PM Subject: Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help?? Thanks Kass, B-17 is the one I am looking for without eating the kernals, Ugh how bitter. Thanks for the other tidbits also. Deborah __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSHi, am brand new to this program
Hi Marie, I use the ionic silver as well, and I've found that it's best to take it with nothing but water. Do not brush your teeth before taking it. No citrus before or with. I'm using WaterOz, what are you using? I'm also using ionic germanium, and I get very little flavor from the silver, if I take the gremanium first. Keep smiling, Kass - Original Message - From: Marie atthel...@snet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CSHi, am brand new to this program I've tried colloidal silver at $20 for about 16 oz and thought I'd save money by buying ionic silver at $120 for 4 gallons. The ionic has a much higher ppm, as well. I'm surprised at the difference in taste. The ionic has a severe chemical taste and I'm finding it very hard to take. Mixing it with other things doesn't seem to work. Suggestions are welcome. Thank you. Marie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSPosts diff.
How come some posts continue on in one vein in the same msg including replies and when I try to post it sends a whole new msg. instead of a reply to the question Hi Janine, There are two ways to post to the list. If you start a new message, give it a new subject and send it to silver-list@eskimo.com, it will appear as the beginning of a new thread. If you hit the reply button on your browser or e-mail reader, the program *should* pick up the subject of the message you're reading, and also fill in the To: or addressee field with the silver list address. It'll also probably quote the text of the message you're responding to in your reply. You should always check the subject and addressee fields before hitting send, to make sure your program picked up the right parts so you know exactly where your message is going. Hope that helps! Ask away if you have any more questions! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSColloid? was baking soda
Positively charged silver particles are already oxidised (lost an electron). I've seen this said several times, and at the risk of having my ears boxed by the real scientists on the list, I have to say it looks like nonsense. The loss of an electron gives a positive charge. That's not oxidation. Oxidation is picking up an oxygen atom and thus becoming part of a compound -- an oxide. Any argument with that? Sam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
Also, folks, mainstream science via the popular press has reported the mathematical probability of a 10th planet (or 12th, if you prefer) 10 times the size of Jupiter, way out beyond Pluto's orbit, that's deflecting the orbits of comets and distorting all their calculations for the solar system. We may meet the Anunaki before we're finished here. Can't wait. Sam Marsha Hallett wrote: Dear Marshall, I`ve read all his books too, and they ARE interesting! Hmm, I wonder if THEY will return in 2013... Marsha Possibly, if not before. The sun suppose to start acting really weird upon their return (or the return of the planet), and it has really been flaking out the last few months. Huge solar flares and CMEs, weird things showing up on the SOHO pictures (many look like flying saucers), and more sun spots than normal during a solar maximum, and that is still a few months off. Astronomers just announced that they have detected a new really big planet outside the solar system lately as well. At any rate, I think we are going to have some really interesting times ahead. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSStirring the pot?
In my short time as a member of the list I have seen much 'pot stirring'! However, I have a serious question to ask; As a non-techie, and one who appreciates that 'any silver is better than none', as expressed by some listers recentlyJust how important is the stirring process in the success of home manufacture CS? If, as I understand it, the the CS electrons or microns, (or whatever!?), repel each in solution with an electrical charge. To make only a 5-10ppm batch using a SOTA generator means standing there for 30 minutesAnd, if I make an extra batch for the kids, means standing at the stove for an hour - so on!! Your thoughts please, Thanks, Rob
CS[Fwd: CSIntestine, Pt 12]
:-) -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net ---BeginMessage--- Hello wonderful fraturnity of the CS art, DIGESTION, con`t The pharynx, or throat. This is the crossing over point between the digestive tract and the respiratory tract. It it a common chamber for food on the way to the esophagus and air on the way to the windpipe. At this point along the line something can go down the wrong way. Normally, A valve closes the opening to the windpipe. You actually hold your breath for a second while the ball of food is swallowed into the esophagus. The esophagus, or gullet. This is a collapsible, muscular tube about ten inches long. It passes downward behind the windpipe, between the lungs and behind the heart. It penetrates through the diaphragm and reaches the stomach. Food is moved along the esophagus by waves of automatic muscular contractions traveling downward along the tube. These contractions are known as *peristaltic waves* and the process is called peristalsis. The peristaltic waves push along before them any food that may be in the tube. The point where the gullet leads into the stomach is guarded by a muscular structure called the *cardiac sphincter*. This is a circular muscule that is ordinarily contracted so the passage way is closed. When food is swallowed the cardiac sphincter relaxes. An opening forms in the center and the food is swept into the stomach. Then the muscle contracts and the opening closes to prevent food from leaving the stomach, and going back up the esophagus. DEGLUTITION, or swallowing, is divided into three stages, which correspond to the three regions--- mouth, pharynx, and esophagus---through which food passes. The first stage consists of the passage of the bolus of food through the fauces. The second stage consists of the passage of the bolus through the pharynx. During this stage, the respiratory opening into the larynx is closed by the approximation of the vocal folds which close the glottis, by the elevation of the larynx, and by contraction of the muscles of deglutition. The parts are crowded together by the decent of the base of the tongue, by the lifting of the larynx, and the coming together of the vocal folds. The third stage consists in the passage of the bolus through the esophagus. Apparently the consistency of the food affects this stage of the process. Solid or semisolid food is forced down the esophagus by a peristaltic movement and requires from four to eight seconds for its passage from the mouth to the stomach. About half of this time is taken up in the passage through the esophagus, and the remainder is spent in transit through the cardiac orifice of the stomach. Liquid or very soft food is shot through the esophagus and arrives at the lower end in about 0.1 second. It may pass into the stomach at once or may be held in the esophagus for some moments,depending on the condition of the cardiac sphincter. When the stomach is empty,the cardiac sphincter is relaxed or partially relaxed. On ingestion of food it becomes tonically contracted, and as digestion continues, the sphincter becomes more tense. The tension develops in response to the rise of acidity in the liquid just within the cardiac portion of the stomach. The food, after passing through the upper esophageal sphincter enters the esophagus. No futher digestion takes place in the esophagus. Its role is to move food down to the stomach. The lower two thirds of the esophagus is enveloped in smooth muscle. Successive waves of contraction of these muscles move food down to the stomach. Because of this peristalsis, humans can swallow even if they are upside down, or in space. With out peristalsis we could not leave the gravity field we live in. As the food passes the lower esophageal (cardiac) sphincter it enters the stomach. If this sphincter does not close properly, the food backs up into the esophagus, and the acid coating the food causes a burning sensation called *heartburn* ( which has nothing to do with the heart). This is a common problem during pregnancy, when the digestive organs are displaced far upward. It also happens with overeating (stuffing yourself). During the process of mastication,insalivation, and deglutition the food is reduced to a soft, pulpy condition,any starch it contains may begin to be changed into sugar, and the food acquires a more or less alkaline reaction. Vomiting, Under ordinary circumstances the contraction of the cardiac sphincter prevents the regurgitation of food, but spasmodic contractions of the abdominal muscles may, if the diaphragm is fixed, force the contents of the stomach through the esophagus and mouth to the exterior. This is called vomiting. It is usually preceded by a sensation of nausea and a reflex flow of saliva and is itself a reflex act brought about by mechanical irritation of the throat or by irritating substances in the stomach and duodenum, or by pain,heart conditions, and certain emotions as
CSPosts diff.
How come some posts continue on in on vein in the same msg including replies and when I try to post it sends a whole new msg. instead of a reply to the question(hope this is clear) Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSthe 12th planet
Enki and Enlil, call home! It's been too long G Sharon/starshar Sam Earle wrote: Also, folks, mainstream science via the popular press has reported the mathematical probability of a 10th planet (or 12th, if you prefer) 10 times the size of Jupiter, way out beyond Pluto's orbit, that's deflecting the orbits of comets and distorting all their calculations for the solar system. We may meet the Anunaki before we're finished here. Can't wait. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
Sam: Where was ths published? A search on AltaVista for tenth planet led me to NASA flatly denying any such planet!! Regards Harsha Godavari Sam Earle wrote: Also, folks, mainstream science via the popular press has reported the mathematical probability of a 10th planet (or 12th, if you prefer) 10 times the size of Jupiter, way out beyond Pluto's orbit, that's deflecting the orbits of comets and distorting all their calculations for the solar system. We may meet the Anunaki before we're finished here. Can't wait. Sam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSGarlic and Mullein oil
I sure hope those same aliens didn't plant Lyme disease to slow us down and kill off the weaker ones of us. :( It can be a pretty devastating disease. Take care, Janis In a message dated 10/26/99 9:39:21 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: According to the Sumarian writings as translated by Stitchin (Ie. The 12th Planet) this is close, but it was actually aliens (which were referred to as gods, but not God) that modified the environment and our dna for shorter life spans to keep us from getting too wise and becomming a threat. Interesting reading. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSOff Topic - Can anyone help??
Hi Ya'll, Call Cyto Pharma De Mexico at 1-888-281-6663 These are the only people I know of that manufactures B-17. TO YOUR BETTER HEALTH Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSUnidentified subject!
I am new at generating cs for my own use and would like to know if any one could explain why the color of the solution is usually yellowish but some-times turns to a pinkish color.This change in color may take one week to three weeks and sometimes is clear to pinkish from the very begining. I am using a generator with current regulator,no salt and 110 volts.My directios call for 16oz. of distilled water applied current for 5hrs. to obtain 15-20ppm.Any response to jk...@kfalls.net would be appreciated. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSdiagram/design
- Original Message - From: Janine/Gary garyjan...@email.msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: CSdiagram/design The design illustrated is for a standard 3 9volt battery setup! It is the same one a lot of us are using, except it uses ingots instead of wires. It is fine to use a quart mason jar it is not too much volume! I make mine like this all the time. If the electrodes don't come into contact with the water how would you make cs!!??? Your reply to Tia is misleading and ridiculous. These are the same type results I get. This will not produce silver crystals or flakes on the water surface. How about it techies what do you say? I'm definately NOT a techie, wish I was, then maybe I could make a generator polarity switching so as not to get the build up on the negative electrode when I don't watch my CS brew as closely as I should...especially towards the end of the cycle. I use the same 27 VDC (3 9-volt batteries) setup as probably many of us do. I use a pint canning jar everey time I make a batch. I usually let it go for about an hour at first and then take the electrodes out and wipe/rinse them off and put them back in after I stir the batch. (One of those little stirrers would be nice to alleviate having to do this.) Then after about 30-45 min. I do the same thing again. From here on out it must be done about every 15-20 min. or there will be a black build up on the negative electrode that just grow thicker the longer it stays in the solution. If I let this go too long, there will be silver flakes on top of the CS around the neg. elec. The longer it stays in w/o being wiped off the more exagerated the condition. If I were to leave it unattended overnight as Fred said I would have a really disgusting looking mess with much silver flakes, a 'trail' of black falling from the neg. elec. to the bottom of the jar and on the pos. elec. there would be this grayish, mush looking stuff built up on the electrode and beginning to 'trail' down to the bottom of the jar. (This was learned by forgetting about a batch I was making one night...remembered it the next morning. Had to pitch it out.) Oh well, I called that one a learning experience. Hope this helped some. These are just my observations from my own experience. The only problems come as a direct result of my own inattentiveness. We can all (inexperienced and techie alike) learn from this medium if we seek to do so with the understanding that we all have differing methods, variables, etc. But we can all still make a 'good product'. Happy CS'ing to all. W.T. Tia don't panic Fred has his info all wrong. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSthe 12th planet/ off topic
Sometimes called planet X, supposed to be inhabit by our creators? Visit's our solar system every 26 hundred years? Who knows for sure if this is true or not? Ted Sharon Morrissey wrote: Enki and Enlil, call home! It's been too long G Sharon/starshar Sam Earle wrote: Also, folks, mainstream science via the popular press has reported the mathematical probability of a 10th planet (or 12th, if you prefer) 10 times the size of Jupiter, way out beyond Pluto's orbit, that's deflecting the orbits of comets and distorting all their calculations for the solar system. We may meet the Anunaki before we're finished here. Can't wait. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSdiagram/design
I'm definately NOT a techie, wish I was, then maybe I could make a generator polarity switching so as not to get the build up on the negative electrode when I don't watch my CS brew as closely as I should...especially towards the end of the cycle. Hrmmm, I've never been that sure about polarity switching. I would tend to wonder what happens to the sludge if it's not on the cathode. We know it's there somewhere, as it is part of the process of colloidal silver generation. Something to think about I guess. Yours in health, James Allison Allisons Apothecary http://apothecary.hypermart.net Home of the $29.95 Colloidal Silver Generator -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSHi, am brand new to this program
Thanks Kass. I'm using WaterOz when I can stand the taste. Where do you buy the germanium and what is it used for? I'll try diluting the ppm with water. Thanks again. Marie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
