Re: CSRe:Preventative
Dear Judith, Marshalee is correct. I used to be a 'Planned Preventative Maintenance' person before she mended my ways. :) See Fowler's Modern English Usage prevent(at)ive. The short form is better; see LONG VARIANTS where he says 'The better the writer the shorter the words'... broadly true Those who run to long words are mainly the unskilful and tasteless; they confuse pomposity with dignity, flaccidity with ease, and bulk with force. Tony Judith Thamm wrote: Tisk Marshalee, Tisk Tisk! (By the way, for the Newbies out there, who missed my rant of several months ago, the word is preventive, not preventatative, ie.what CS is so good at doing!) OK, I`ll shut up for now!!! :o) Love, Marshalee My 3 nearest dictionaries [each is a standard doorstop weight ;) ] say : DK Illustrated Oxford Dictionary lists preventative before preventive Reader's Digest Complete Word Finder: lists preventative before preventive The Macquarie Dictionary: [standard Australian reference] preventive [ gives definitions] then says: Also preventative. [I collect dictionaries, just BTW.] Regards, Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
You have two choices, use the delete function or unsubscribe!! --- dannymetalmas...@aol.com wrote: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
Or, one can point out a clip of the rules: Permitted Topics A modest amount of humor, chit-chat, friendly banter and encouragement is condoned, and is indeed important for the well-being of the list. Such threads should be brief, seldom more than a small handful of messages. Such off topic noise must be allowed in order to foster the friendly, welcoming environment we seek. It is, however a privilege. Please do not abuse it. You have two choices, use the delete function or unsubscribe!! Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? Speaking of semantics, how about bi-weekly? 1. Occurring twice a week. 2. Occurring every two weeks. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVDC
In article 00d201c190e9$118827c0$f6cf4...@jkeliipio, Josephine joseph...@poidogs.com wrote: This is sure good to know, I think I will just stick to the low voltage stuff. The yellow tinge color for CS is a better trade off than fooling with something that risky. You can make clear CS with LVDC using both current control and stirring. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScomments
Brita is right on... I would suspect the water had been contaminated by detergent residue in the brewing container. Rinse,rinse,rinse. Don't clean between batches. Store with a cover. Chuck Don't Panic! It's all right. Everything is going to be just fine. OK, panic a little... On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:36:57 -0500, bvjones bvjo...@msn.com wrote: it looks to me that your generating process is occuring way too fast. most likely it's the distilled water, or else you had some other residue in the jar. try rinsing it out with hydrogen peroxide and then rinsing it thoroughly (3 or 4 ) times with the distilled water, then do the generating again spacing your electrodes 2 inches apart, exactly opposite each other. In my experience heating the water will speed the generating up somewhat but not as quickly as within 5 minutes. for 32 ozs of water it should take at least 30 minutes to an hour before you see anything other than a very few bubbles on the negative electrode hope this tides you over 'till more experienced folks send their comments. Brita. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 02:25:56 -0600, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com wrote: Speaking of semantics, how about bi-weekly? 1. Occurring twice a week. 2. Occurring every two weeks. Even worse, Try weakly... Chuck Don't build more nukes until we use the ones we have! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVDC
If you control the current,stir, or both you can make strong clear CS with low voltage. ken At 08:18 PM 12/29/01 -0800, you wrote: This is sure good to know, I think I will just stick to the low voltage stuff. The yellow tinge color for CS is a better trade off than fooling with something that risky. Thanks again, Josephine Being a retired long time electrician,dealing with electricity in many voltages,both AC and DC,I would not advise an amateur to fool with 110/120 VDC as it is dangerous and ,boy,it sure hurts when you get hit with it. Harold --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
Wassa matta wit jew? You anti semantic? :-) K At 12:26 AM 12/30/01 EST, you wrote: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScomments
At 12:02 AM 12/30/01 -0600, you wrote: Hi, I am new at this and request your comments as to what's wrong with this from you experienced CS makers. 3 new 9V batteries snapped together to form 27V. 12GA . silver wire local drugstore distilled water I suspended the 6 electrodes 1 or so apart using a small mouth 32oz canning jar. I got the water hot. I see plumes of brownish colored wispy clouds forming within 5 minutes off the positive electrode with the negative electrode forming bubbles. Is this too fast? ###Yes, too fast. A white cloud should be the max..better yet, no visible cloud at all. Can this method produce clear CS? ### Probably not If yellow CS is pure hype are the CS generators sold by the same people pure hype as well? ## Not exactly. Even yellow CS contains many small particles of the clear variety and maybe the yellow ones aren't too large to work. Yellow isn't 'bad' it just could be better. Ken Respectfully, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSList rules...
Danny writes: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? Colloidal Silver, with a seasoning of everything else, within the limits of courtesy and reason. Sorry I haven't posted these in a while. Below are the list rules, as they are currently constituted... The parts about chit-chat and banter being a privelege and about List Cops are both germane. As Marshalee suggests, let's be nice to each other. Mike Devour silver-list owner Courtesy Always Civil, courteous, and considerate behavior is required at all times and in all discussions, regardless of topic. Aggressive behavior is not allowed. Attacks, ridicule or insults against the person, ideas, education, beliefs, or opinions of any other list member are not acceptable behavior. This applies equally to off-list behavior toward list members. Criticism of other list members' behavior or how the list is being run must be directed to the list owner, privately and not on the list. No List Cops! Permitted Topics Any Colloidal Silver related topic or question may be raised and discussed until it is obviously exhausted. Any alternative health-related question may be asked, and answers may be given regardless of whether they are related to Colloidal Silver or not. HOWEVER... Alternative health related topics NOT related to Colloidal Silver will be ended or taken off list as soon as basic information is given and important resources identified. Brief heads-up messages about legislation, regulation, or politics of relevence to Colloidal Silver or important alternative health issues may be posted occasionally, with follow-up to be taken off list. A modest amount of humor, chit-chat, friendly banter and encouragement is condoned, and is indeed important for the well-being of the list. Such threads should be brief, seldom more than a small handful of messages. Such off topic noise must be allowed in order to foster the friendly, welcoming environment we seek. It is, however a privilege. Please do not abuse it. No Commercial Activity This is a non-commercial forum. No vendor may participate except as a private individual. No promotion of any kind is permitted without my prior, explicit approval of each occurrence. No vendor or representative may promote a particular product or malign any other. No vendor sales or solicitation is permitted except in private e-mail. It is each member's responsibility to make sure all business is conducted privately and not on the list, but it is especially the vendors' responsibility to know how to reply off list to avoid violating this rule. Exception: Reasonable use of signature files and taglines is permitted. The list owner will judge what is reasonable. Prohibited Topics Experience shows that certain topics are clear losers, no matter how carefully they are treated. Politics is forbidden unless it relates directly to CS or important alternative health issues, as mentioned above. Do not discuss parties, elections, politicians, policy, or philosophy. Do not raise divisive issues -- you know which ones! Do not reply to political comments made by others -- Nope, not even to be fair! Religion, mysticism, or spirituality are to be avoided as topics for discussion. There is no comment you can make that will not risk offending someone. Overt evangelization is not permitted. Do not reply to religious remarks made by others. I am not asking you to de-God everything you say, do or think, however. Brief greetings, thanks, and prayer requests or offerings are acceptable. The occasional God bless, or you're in our prayers will not be seen as a transgression. Modest tag lines or signature files may also be used. I say again: Criticism of other list members' behavior or how the list is being run must be directed to the list owner, privately and not on the list. No List Cops! Off Topic Posts Posts that are clearly Off Topic are generally discouraged. Do not start an obviously off topic thread. Do not reply to off topic posts made by others. If a thread morphs off-topic, end it or take it off list! There should not be lengthy threads on obviously off-topic subjects. This does not apply to threads that result from someone's health related questions as described in the Permitted Topics section above. If in doubt, or you have a special need you believe justifies an off topic post, please ask me in private e-mail. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSFiltering CS
I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. After I have finished brewing my CS I strain it using a coffee filter. The container I pour it into has a chip in the glass (this is the measuring cup) and I have noticed a rust coloration forming in the uneven surface of the chip. I am also getting this rust coloration on an eye dropper I use to snort CS with when I get a sinus infection. This is the same rust color that my used coffee filter/strainer gets if I leave laying out for a day or so. I don't know what is causing this but it has something to do with the CS. -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFiltering CS Talking about filtering CS, I bought the unbleached coffee filters, the Melitta brand. When I used them to filter my CS, the CS got darker yellow in color. This happened several times so I stopped using those coffee filters as I then figured that the filters are not really unbleached but maybe colored brown to look unbleached and perhaps the coloring is leaching into the CS. It was then suggested by the manufacturer of my CS generator that I could use white cotton handkerchiefs to filter the CS. So now I am using cotton hankies. However, I am noticing that whenever I rinse out the hankies and hang them to dry, I notice a rust colored stain develops on the part that was in contact with the CS. Now I am wondering where this rust color is originating from. The manufacturer has no explanation for the rust color and says that the silver strips being used for the electrodes are 99.9 silver. Any way of testing the electrodes for purity? Also, I am beginning to wonder if the rust is coming from the metal covers that I am using for the quart size mason jars that I use to make and store the CS. Any ideas or comments on this subject is appreciated. Thanks, Josephine . Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). . __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHVDC
Better stop driving your car. Your chances of being harmed doing that are immensely greater than getting zapped making CS with HV. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHVDC This is sure good to know, I think I will just stick to the low voltage stuff. The yellow tinge color for CS is a better trade off than fooling with something that risky. Thanks again, Josephine Being a retired long time electrician,dealing with electricity in many voltages,both AC and DC,I would not advise an amateur to fool with 110/120 VDC as it is dangerous and ,boy,it sure hurts when you get hit with it. Harold --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe:Preventative
Well Marsha, you made me look it up. According to Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary, unabridged 2nd edition, 1974, you are nice. [Synonym for exact, correct, right, normal, precise and some others I can't remember]. It says for preventative ...same as 'preventive'. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:liah...@utah-inter.net] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe:Preventative What's the difference? James-Osbourne: Holmes The extra ta is redundant. Marshalee nuff said... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
Danny yes, yes T dannymetalmas...@aol.com wrote: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbaking soda
Hi pj; Try unpasteurized Apple Cider Vinegar. as it will alkalinize the body. You can even get it in tablets but you will miss out in the beneficial bacteria. Often fed with salad as part of a salad dressing. Louise Larabie llara...@raw-connections.com BARFing Amber and Ginger Raw Connections www.raw-connections.com i...@raw-connections.com Frozen, raw prepared meals for dogs and cats, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Area RawGlow www.raw-connections.com/rawglow raw fed Miniature Australian Shepherd NAMAS *For a great grooming tool check http://www.raw-connections.com/grooming.html -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSbaking soda So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVDC
No need for the wise cracks James Osbourne, Holmes (the only guy with a comma in his name) As Mike pointed out, it would still be safer for some of us who are not electrically inclined to not mettle with high voltage. Gee wizz. Josephine - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: RE: CSHVDC Better stop driving your car. Your chances of being harmed doing that are immensely greater than getting zapped making CS with HV. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:Preventative
Well Marsha, you made me look it up. According to Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary, unabridged 2nd edition, 1974, you are nice. [Synonym for exact, correct, right, normal,precise and some others I can't remember]. It says for preventative...same as 'preventive'. James-Osbourne: Holmes You know, James, just the other day I went to lunch with a friend. Afterwards I just had to say: My gastronomical solidity admonishes me that further deglutition would be inconsistant with my dietetic integrity. She said Huh? I said: I`m full. :o) Nice is my greatest goal! Why can`t all people be nice? Shall we work over Simplistically?? Simply is just so much more, well, simple! I shall crawl back under my rock now, for further winter hibernation... Love to you all!! Marshalee PS: I`m studying Spanish. Now why do they need 2 words for for, por and para, and why are there two to be verbs, ser and estar?? Ay de mi! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
That explains why every time I thought I had it right, I would find out I had it backwards again!!! Same thing for bimonthly. And all this time I thought it was just me. Marshall cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 02:25:56 -0600, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com wrote: Speaking of semantics, how about bi-weekly? 1. Occurring twice a week. 2. Occurring every two weeks. Even worse, Try weakly... Chuck Don't build more nukes until we use the ones we have! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSwas Filtering CS/rust stains
I sometimes will get that rust color on my fingers from cleaning and handling the electrodes.reminds me of those old nicotine stains!! Yechtt!! Connie (the old Connie, not the new one) From: Kent and Carol johnson...@msn.com Reply-To: johnson...@msn.com Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:25:37 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSFiltering CS Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 05:26:20 -0800 I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. After I have finished brewing my CS I strain it using a coffee filter. The container I pour it into has a chip in the glass (this is the measuring cup) and I have noticed a rust coloration forming in the uneven surface of the chip. I am also getting this rust coloration on an eye dropper I use to snort CS with when I get a sinus infection. This is the same rust color that my used coffee filter/strainer gets if I leave laying out for a day or so. I don't know what is causing this but it has something to do with the CS. -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFiltering CS Talking about filtering CS, I bought the unbleached coffee filters, the Melitta brand. When I used them to filter my CS, the CS got darker yellow in color. This happened several times so I stopped using those coffee filters as I then figured that the filters are not really unbleached but maybe colored brown to look unbleached and perhaps the coloring is leaching into the CS. It was then suggested by the manufacturer of my CS generator that I could use white cotton handkerchiefs to filter the CS. So now I am using cotton hankies. However, I am noticing that whenever I rinse out the hankies and hang them to dry, I notice a rust colored stain develops on the part that was in contact with the CS. Now I am wondering where this rust color is originating from. The manufacturer has no explanation for the rust color and says that the silver strips being used for the electrodes are 99.9 silver. Any way of testing the electrodes for purity? Also, I am beginning to wonder if the rust is coming from the metal covers that I am using for the quart size mason jars that I use to make and store the CS. Any ideas or comments on this subject is appreciated. Thanks, Josephine . Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). . __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT - Huntington's disease
I have a friend who has Huntington's Disease. Does anyone know of alternative therapies to help alleviate or cure the symptoms ??? He was a brilliant young man who is now just a shadow of who he was. Please help !! Thank you, Jerry Karl --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.311 / Virus Database: 172 - Release Date: 12/27/2001 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS O2 research
- Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 1:36 AM Subject: RE: CS O2 research Very interesting. I wonder how many of the members of the Oxygen Society are the same people who contributed to the British Equivalent of the AMA report saying that Vitamin C causes cancer. It would be quite a task to evaluate this information. I would start by looking at who funds these people. This may be important information, and it may be something else. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS O2 research Dear list... The following abstract is from HMS BEAGLE [a site by scientist for scientist] larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Preventative
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:40:10 -0700, Marshalee Hallett liah...@utah-inter.net wrote: Nice is my greatest goal! Why can`t all people be nice? Nice? Publicly correcting perceived faults of others is nice? Look what we got from Tony: Those who run to long words are mainly the unskilful and tasteless; they confuse pomposity with dignity, flaccidity with ease, and bulk with force. (Flaccidity especially hurt)! Nice indeed! Chuck If Starfleet Command had wanted you to have a life, we would have issued you one. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Huntington's disease
Dear Sir, Since Huntington's Chorea (Huntington's disease) [HD] has been determined---through direct research---to present as a pronounced loss of neurons in the cerebral cortex via a phenomenon called excitotoxic cell death..one should be stimulated to investigate the works of Dr. Russell Blaylock. In a very substantial number of cases involving presentations of excitoxin-induced brain-cell death..Dr. Blaylock achieved measureable success in abating the process through the use of alpha lipoic acid's antioxidant properties.. Although a majority of his cases involved damage caused/exacerbated by excitotoxin compounds such as MSG and Nutrasweet..the chronology of cell deterioration appears identical to the HD presentations. While the pathogenesis of HD remains unknown/undisclosed..one might be encouraged to consider protocols demonstrated to be effective in addressing excitotoxin-induced brain-cell death..as published by Dr. Blaylock. Blaylock determined that the neurotransmitters (precursors actually) such as trytophan and tyrosine (obtained normally through diet) had to be closely controlled in susceptible subjects-or the brain would go berserk. Additional substances recommended by Dr. Blaylock, as offering support in ANY form of excitotoxic insult, included: N-Acetyl L-Cysteine, Coenzyme Q-10, Acetyl L-carnitine, L-Carnitine, and Taurine. Additionally, general brain function was shown to improve through the use of Lecithin, Phosphatidylserine, Hydergine, and Deanol. In any event since a majority of these substances are of proven value in sustaining proper health, logic invites one to strongly consider their support as ancillary protocols in addressing HD. I encourage you to obtain a copy of Dr. Blaylock's book, entitled, Excitotoxins, The Taste That Kills. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Jerry Karl wrote: I have a friend who has Huntington's Disease. Does anyone know of alternative therapies to help alleviate or cure the symptoms ??? He was a brilliant young man who is now just a shadow of who he was. Please help !! Thank you, Jerry Karl --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.311 / Virus Database: 172 - Release Date: 12/27/2001 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS brewing time
Acmeair said: ..wipe the wires after 25-30 minutes, and quit after about 45 minutes. Using 32 oz of DW and 27 volts for 45 minutes, with no starter? You'd be lucky to have 1 or 2 ppm. If 8 oz of that 32 oz was pre-brewed CS as a starter, you would probably have about 5 ppm in 45 minutes (brewing 32 oz with 27 volts). __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbrewing time vs wattage factor
Evening Terry, Using 32 oz of DW and 27 volts for 45 minutes, with no starter? You'd be lucky to have 1 or 2 ppm. If 8 oz of that 32 oz was pre-brewed CS as a starter, you would probably have about 5 ppm in 45 minutes (brewing 32 oz with 27 volts). Do you think something similar to a wattage factor applies? If one doubles the voltage, 54 volts for example, then the time would be cut in half, or the ppm would be twice as much. After all, wattage is the work done in any circuit. This should apply to your 110 VDC just like it does to the lower voltages that some use. Likely a real engineer could tell us the watts per ppm. If this could be done, then the variation of electrode spacing, starting conductivity, and working voltage would become only variables, and the wattage per ppm would be the constant that we would be concerned with. Historically, I have used the current meter more in my every day work than similar technicians I have talked with. I have always said, the final check to see if any circuit is working right is the current flow. If the current flow is not what it should be, then the circuit is not working as it should. This is true on little circuits, big circuits, and huge circuits. I can't see why most of these basic principles do not apply to the CS process as well. A tech without a current meter is in a world of hurt. I even purchased a 50 amp meter shunt and built in into a nice plastic box with terminal strips on the outside. I used to service a lot of central powered emergency light systems, as well as large inverter systems. Some of these were 480 three phase and were up to 48,000 volt amps. Likely larger ones exist, but I have not run across them. I have a 12 volt, 100 amp supply that has a 100 amp meter shunt installed. Can anyone think of a good use of it? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbrewing time vs wattage factor
Starting a car. I have a 12 volt, 100 amp supply that has a 100 amp meter shunt installed. Can anyone think of a good use of it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Poinsettia CS
What happened to the Christmas tree, did it suffer the same fate as the Poinsettia? I am now spraying my Christmas tree stumps with Cs. Sales were good this year so have a bunch of stumps to spray. Trying to reduce root rot that can kill new seedlings planted next to the stump. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Poinsettia CS
Hi Judith, I posted Dave about his CS and he just answered me. The CS he makes has a very high concnetration of nitric acid, and that it's what killed the plant. He was not aware of that so I will help him resolve the problem. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScomments
Hi Rich, Careless reading! The pure hype is that yellow is best not that yellow does not exist. One can get yellow many ways, i.e. just a trace of soap or detergent will make the CS go yellow. Brewing to long or at too high of a current density, or nor not stirring. You do not need to use hot water. Idon't know where that old wive's tale came from but junk it. I have duplicated every protocol that the listees have come up with in the last four years, (hundrerds of data logged tests) and the measured the ionic ppm with my spectrophotometer. Other people have reported browish clouds forming but I have never seen them. May be because I have never used heated water. One does not need that speed-up. It has been reported that microwaved water has some strange characteristics. I would suggest that you put a current meter in one line and turn off the voltage when the current reachs about 3 ma. Also move the electrodes out to about 2 1/2 spacing and add constant stirring to elminate agglomeration. Air bubble is a poor substitue for stirring as the action between the electerodes is tooweak. Yes three 9v Batteriesmakes good CS if you w\follow the proper rules. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Huntington's disease
Jerry, I suggest you join a great health group at mr-tracys-corner.com and ask for help .. they seem to have answers for almost everything you can think of. Good luck, nancy... - Original Message - From: Jerry Karl jerry62...@direcpc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: CSOT - Huntington's disease I have a friend who has Huntington's Disease. Does anyone know of alternative therapies to help alleviate or cure the symptoms ??? He was a brilliant young man who is now just a shadow of who he was. Please help !! Thank you, Jerry Karl --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.311 / Virus Database: 172 - Release Date: 12/27/2001 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing -- CAUTION
One of the stations in a electronics lab that I once worked at was the HI-POT area for testing capacitors. Lethal voltages were involved. A large plexiglas box with a hinged lid and leads inside was the test area. The box lid had a safety switch that cut power to the leads inside, when the lid was opened. Foolproof, but not damnfoolproof. The manager showing me around, opened the lid, reached in, and grabbed the now charged capacitor. He became quite agitated! The container and interlock switch was what I was suggesting. Chuck Moriarty killed a clone--Holmes lives! On Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:01:32 +0600, Reid Harvey ceram...@bol-online.com wrote: In my mid night inquiries I came up with three fail safe methods of keeping the hands off. One is to operate the system rather high up, on top of a six foot cabinet. Secondly I'm emblazoning all four sides of the one gallon jar with the word, DANGER. Thirdly I'm putting a light in the circuit, just on the business side of the outlet. The British system plugs and outlets (for 220v) that we use have switches at the wall, but we'll use an additional switch prior to the light. This light is needed because one cannot really see a live wire in action. All of these measures need doing prior to making the first batch of CS, and without them I could well have been the first victim. Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: HVDC
just safety, but their capacity to keep it safe. This may be obvious, but consider that every day we deal with 110V plugs, etc. Huge difference in 110VAC and 110VDC with regards to lethal potentials however. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Poisettia CS
Hi Dave, I don't really know where to begin But what you are doing is a disaster!!! To make HVAC with all of your electrodes wet is the first disaster. My investigations of two wet (why 4?) was never able to make more that 9 ppm (true not hanna stuff) and it would go yellow or dirty and have silver drop out. So I abandoned that process. The cone process where one electrode is wet and the other about 1/8 to 1/4 above the DW surface will make a reasonable CS that has a lot of partilces in it as witnessed by the bright T.E. When you made the arc in air the there was a whole bunch of NO3 generated. (note arcing in air is how Dr. Farber before WWI made nitric acid to explosives.) It also makes NO2 and the twoswithc levels with time. I will attach a plot of one of my run made on 11/6/01 and retested yesterday. It is quite revealing. HVAC ARC when there is a CO2 blanket makes a product that has structured water and is almost totally ionic. Mine is 98+% ionic as checked by two labs. The T.E.M. photographs ($75.00 each run) show the size to be 1nm to 8 nm. I hve configured my spectrophotometer to measure Ag in ppm , NO3 in ppm, and NO2 in ppm. I cannot measure silverparticles. that takes an AA, and they are many kilobucks. When you get Hanna readings about 100 then you are in the nitric acid business. I hope that I have answered you questions. Yes I will test your product for all three items. The cost will be $7.50 for the first sample and $5.00 foreach additional sample in the same shipment. I will need about 2 oz. seal it well and place in a ziplock baggy for extra security. Send to: System Tech Engineering Robert L. Berger 12303 E. 89th St. Kansas City, MO 64138-5150 ole Bob NO3 vs NO2 in CS.xls Description: application/msexcel
RE: CSRe:Preventative
Strangely, a more primary definition of nice in some dictionaries is wantonly foolish. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe:Preventative On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:40:10 -0700, Marshalee Hallett liah...@utah-inter.net wrote: Nice is my greatest goal! Why can`t all people be nice? Nice? Publicly correcting perceived faults of others is nice? Look what we got from Tony: Those who run to long words are mainly the unskilful and tasteless; they confuse pomposity with dignity, flaccidity with ease, and bulk with force. (Flaccidity especially hurt)! Nice indeed! Chuck If Starfleet Command had wanted you to have a life, we would have issued you one. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing -- CAUTION
Evening Reid, Terry Chamberlain's approach, especially with the close proximity and curiosity of my two sons, five and nine. They do not need to be electrocuted. Was your goal to use 110 VDC? If not... settle for 52 VDC and use the phone line power. I have never heard of anyone getting electrocuted by this voltage. Likely I came the closest but that was with the help of lightning. Depending on how much you want to make and what your goals are, I don't see how anyone can do much better that using the FREE voltage that sits everywhere waiting to be harnessed to this application. The time factor is much better than any 6, 12, 18, 24, or 27 volt device. Unless one is using a current limiter or some device with control ability, The 52 volt phone gen is ideal cheap, safe, and easy to use. Many systems may be better, but not cheaper or more convenient .. or safer. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: HVDC
Evening Ken, Don't you end up with about a pint or so? Of course, for folks who produce his for themselves only, low voltage would appear to be the way to go. I make 1/2 gallon per batch with LVDC.I can use Terry's time method as he makes 1 gallon ( per station ), and I make 1/2 gallon. Likely I could parallel a few half gallons if the need ever arises. My voltage being 1/2 of 110 volts ( or nearly so), if my spacing is about the same, and I use 25% starter, I should be close enough to the target. So what if I am a few ppm more or less? I don't sell any of this, so the variation causes me no worry. This typically does me one to two weeks, depending on how much I give away. If you want gallons . then that will somewhat dictate your methods. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Preventative
Quite excellent, Holmes! I believe we are getting to the meat of the matter, now! Wantonly foolish, nice ring, that! Chuck Mr. Wesley Crusher, would you please report to the airlock. On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:01:47 -0700, James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com wrote: Strangely, a more primary definition of nice in some dictionaries is wantonly foolish. James-Osbourne: Holmes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
Hello Terry, Sunday, December 30, 2001, 8:32:46 PM, you wrote: TC Wayne Fugitt said: TC Do you think something similar to a wattage factor TC applies? TC Terry responds: TC Years ago, when I was taking my Electronic Servicing TC Technology classes (long name for 'TV repair'), I TC received a bit, a tad, a smattering of electronics TC theory. My understanding was that wattage simply TC referred to energy being given off in the form of TC heat, caused by the friction of electrons flowing TC against resistance (ohms). (I may not have this TC right.) TC You can have a dial for adjusting voltage or current TC (amperage), but I've never heard of a wattage dial. In TC making CS, you only need to regulate voltage and TC current, not wattage. Wattage is a by-product of the TC interaction of voltage, current and resistance, as TC smoke or heat is of the activity of fire. Am I right, TC technical types? Wattage is usually used when the term volt-amps is more correct. And, while most people assume they are the same, they are not. They are only the same if the current and voltage are in phase. If the current leads, or lags, the voltage, the wattage changes, but the volt-amps do not. This is where electric ultitlities can actually get ripped off, as they make electricity in volt-amps, and sell it in watts. For companies that use a lot of power, the local utility will usually insist that transformers and motors are of the high power factor type. This keeps the current and voltage more in phase, and allows the utility to charge properly for the energy consumed. Wattage should never be used as a reference in making colloidal silver, as it can change wildly. As an example, one of my HVAC units can dump 900 watts into a batch. But, there is no corrolation between the wattage of that and, say, a simple LVDC setup that produces the same PPM in the same amount of time. The wattage on the LVDC unit will be a fraction of the HVAC unit. -- Best regards, Solar -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS wattage
Here is my take on it...knowledge courtesy of the USN. Power (P), measured in Watts is directly proportional to Voltage (E) and current (I). P=I * E, as one can see, if you change the voltage or current your changing the value of power. Also, P= (I * I) * R, where R equals the resistance in ohms. Again, one can see by adjusting the resistance one will affect the power. So, a wattage dial can actually be tweaking the resistance or voltage component and labeled as such so one knows what watts they are trying to adjust. Otherwise, they would have to impart the formulas to figure out themselves. So, when making CS, power, in watts, changes when the voltage is changed. Another way power is changed if using a constant voltage source, the water will get less resistive as brewing goes on, the current therefore will increase and so will the power being consumed. My $0.02. Now, I just need to figure out how to make a stirring unit, one idea so far is incorporating a 12v windshield washer pump, taking water from the top of the jug and pushing it out at the bottom along the wall of the curved glass.just an idea so far, my luck all the pumps will be metal. Respectfully, Rich Adams rad...@kc.rr.com You can have a dial for adjusting voltage or current (amperage), but I've never heard of a wattage dial. In making CS, you only need to regulate voltage and current, not wattage. Wattage is a by-product of the interaction of voltage, current and resistance, as smoke or heat is of the activity of fire. Am I right, technical types? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFwd: Re: CS HVAC
Hi Bob, I would like a detailed description of your unit as I have never heard of it. The Motherlode is powered by a 15,000 V transformer encased in a white metal box. Two high voltage leads are inserted into two jacks in the cover of the one gallon brew container. these jacks are approx 5.5cm apart. There are two 3/8 vent holes located just in front of these jacks. Inside the cover one stainless steel wire drops down to a 16 ga silver plate that has a wetted area of 3x5.5cm, the other stainless steel wire goes to a silver wedge, with the pointed side down that is held approx .5cm above the distilled water. Brew time determines strength of approx 3ppm/hour. I normally run three hours. Perfectly clear with a very light to non existent tyndall effect. When swished around in the mouth for 2 or 3 minutes it will etch your teeth. It can be buffered with potassium citrate. Be careful if you use bicarbonate of soda as the CS will become sunlight sensitive and turn reddish in color. How did you measure the pH? I use a digital pH meter. I have been using an analog pH meter Made by Brookstone. I really appreciate your input, Bill Hibernating in the North Country of NY Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Huntington's disease
In that case, a glutathione precursor, Immunocal, is in order. It recycles ALA, vitamin C, E, and peroxide, directly quenches free radicals, and is instrumental in both breaking down and chelating toxins. GSH is the body's main antioxidant, the only one created by the body. It is being used on all of the other neurodegenerative disorders with very good results. Any toxin that produces premature cell death will be dramatically reduced by raising GSH levels. I'd use it as well as the ALA, but be warned that ALA supplements can be dangerous to people with mercury fillings. The NAC Brooks mentioned does work somewhat but has a half-life of two hours, can produce awful side effects at decent doses, and when withdrawn the GSH levels plummet. It's really only useful to stop someone's liver from liquefying during an overdose, and then only for a few days. Selenium supplementation will help maximize whatever GSH he can produce. ciao Duncan | Dear Sir, | Since Huntington's Chorea (Huntington's disease) | [HD] has been determined---through direct research---to present as a | pronounced loss of neurons in the cerebral cortex via a phenomenon called | excitotoxic cell death..one should be stimulated to investigate the | works of Dr. Russell Blaylock. In a very substantial number of cases | involving presentations of excitoxin-induced brain-cell death..Dr. | Blaylock achieved measureable success in abating the process through the use | of alpha lipoic acid's antioxidant properties.. Although a majority of his | cases involved damage caused/exacerbated by excitotoxin compounds such as | MSG and Nutrasweet..the chronology of cell deterioration appears . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSitchin, etc
Some interesting observations, Chuck. That emoticon ;^) IS a puzzle - wonder whether it is of ancient Sumerian origin? Which brings us to Zacharia Sitchin. I have skimmed through his stuff at www.sitchin.com. Why only skimmed? Well, his major premise of ancient extraterrestrial visitors (Anunnaki) from a 12th planet Nibiru having a hugely eliptical orbit with a of period around 3600 years, presents a few basic problems. You see, spending so much time out in the deeply frozen, dark, and comet bombarded regions of the outer solar system, it's hard to imagine how any life could survive, let alone ever get going in the first place - irrespective of whether you believe life evolves or is divinely created. For a good introduction to the concept of 'habitable zones', I would highly recommend reading the feature article Refuges for Life in a Hostile Universe, appearing in the Oct 2001 issue of Scientific American (I know, I know, establishment scientists - real weirdos - but sometimes they do get it right). Anyhow, if the basic premise is whacky, I see little point in going in-depth, and would prefer some more prosaic explanation of human origins, ancient cataclysms, etc, than what Sitchin offers. A ripping good yarn, but not to be taken too seriously, in my view. I comment on it here because it serves as a good example of how to approach any radical idea - be it to do with influences on CS making, ET origins or whatever. Check the basic premises; if they fail to make sense, the whole edifice comes crashing down. Often it may be hard to determine that, especially on a topic outside one's expertise. So the best strategy is then to seek out any Con arguements, and sift the total evidence - for and against. This may entail seeking others opinions. Time consuming perhaps, but generally worth it in the end. It pays to have a healthy skepticism. Just now, I have done a quick search on Sitchin, and come up with the following con site; http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8148/zindex.html. Happy reading. I DO NOT WISH THIS MOSTLY OFF-TOPIC TO CONTINUE HERE. ANYONE MAY CONTACT ME OFF-LIST IF THEY WISH TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER. regards, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au Original message: On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:15:24 +1100, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Seems you can read my state of frustration pretty well, Chuck. Not sure age has much to do with it, but if it helps build a better profile, all being well will turn 50 come St Patrick's Day. Hmmm, unexpected paydirt! Maybe that's when the search for more meaning in the nature of things begins. I STARTED training in kung-fu at 45. The circumstances leading up to that in retrospect, were esoteric indeed. The sea change in my philosophy from that point was a tremendous alteration. You seem to be doing pretty well for someone with a blank mind, BTW! Despite the impression I'm obviously giving some, I do have an open mind, but as I'm sure you've quipped, not so open the brain falls out. I just leave room for OTHER possibilities, I NEVER bet the rent! Of one thing I'm sure of... Only fools are positive. ;^) (if you think you've caught me in one, note the seldom-used emoticon) I think it was Marshall that set up my reading list for this winter by mentioning Sitchin. Got the rest of his books for Christmas. Mind boggling! Chuck
Re: CSFiltering CS
maybe the rust colored material is really rust and maybe the silver rods are part silver and part iron? Josephine So what is the rust coloured material. Is the process going too fast? Thanks for your help. This list is wonderful. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventive
There are other choices, namely, to ignore it and let it pass as a minor aggravation, or to complain to the moderator. Leo Theodore Corbett wrote: You have two choices, use the delete function or unsubscribe!! --- dannymetalmas...@aol.com wrote: Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
When I use 4-9v batteries with rods 1-1/2 apart, I immediately get rust coloured cloudy material coming off the negative wire and rising to the surface. When I go to 3 batteries, it stops, and I see no cloud at all, not even a milky white. I use distilled water with a starter batch of CS in it. So what is the rust coloured material. Is the process going too fast? Thanks for your help. This list is wonderful. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. After I have finished brewing my CS I strain it using a coffee filter. The container I pour it into has a chip in the glass (this is the measuring cup) and I have noticed a rust coloration forming in the uneven surface of the chip. I am also getting this rust coloration on an eye dropper I use to snort CS with when I get a sinus infection. This is the same rust color that my used coffee filter/strainer gets if I leave laying out for a day or so. I don't know what is causing this but it has something to do with the CS. -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFiltering CS Talking about filtering CS, I bought the unbleached coffee filters, the Melitta brand. When I used them to filter my CS, the CS got darker yellow in color. This happened several times so I stopped using those coffee filters as I then figured that the filters are not really unbleached but maybe colored brown to look unbleached and perhaps the coloring is leaching into the CS. It was then suggested by the manufacturer of my CS generator that I could use white cotton handkerchiefs to filter the CS. So now I am using cotton hankies. However, I am noticing that whenever I rinse out the hankies and hang them to dry, I notice a rust colored stain develops on the part that was in contact with the CS. Now I am wondering where this rust color is originating from. The manufacturer has no explanation for the rust color and says that the silver strips being used for the electrodes are 99.9 silver. Any way of testing the electrodes for purity? Also, I am beginning to wonder if the rust is coming from the metal covers that I am using for the quart size mason jars that I use to make and store the CS. Any ideas or comments on this subject is appreciated. Thanks, Josephine . Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). . __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Poinsettia CS
Hi Bob Thank you for your excellent report. When you said that I probably had high acid content I remembered that the stuff I gave my daughter was from a batch that I rejected because I had run the arc to long and had something like 30 ppm. Whenever I have something I am not sure of I dump it in a jug and mark it for agricultural use only. I assumed that it was simply ionic silver, am surprised that I never heard about producing a highly acidic product with the arc before. To make HVAC with all of your electrodes wet is the first disaster. My investigations of two wet (why 4?) was never able to make more that 9 ppm (true not hanna stuff) and it would go yellow or dirty and have silver drop out. So I abandoned that process. I use four rods to reduce the current per rod to make the smallest particles possible, also wetting 1/2 inch of each electrode gives more surface area releasing the particles. I have experimented with different rod lengths wet and found that 1/2 inch gave me the best results. But you are correct about the ppm, I can not get above 4 ppm on the Hanna meter, and that is because with that process I produce mainly particles. That is why I finish off with the arc, I then stop it at 10-12 ppm. My question to you is: What is the difference between arcing one rod for the whole process or arcing 2 rods at the end to top off the ionic content. My goal was to increase the particle ratio and I know I have accomplished that. I suspect that either method would produce the same amount of nitric acid per rod per hr. I will attach a plot of one of my run made on 11/6/01 and retested yesterday. It is quite revealing. Sorry, I did not receive that. HVAC ARC when there is a CO2 blanket makes a product that has structured water and is almost totally ionic. Mine is 98+% ionic checked by two labs. The T.E.M. photographs ($75.00 each run) show the size to be 1nm to 8 nm. How do you create a CO2 blanket? Also please explain the difference of NO2 and NO3 products. I will take you up on your offer to test some samples and will try to get them in the mail in about a week. Thanks again for your helpful input. Dave
Re: CSFiltering CS
You can buy small containers at drug stores that produce a fine mist by pushing down on the top. I would try that for snorting. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. After I have finished brewing my CS I strain it using a coffee filter. The container I pour it into has a chip in the glass (this is the measuring cup) and I have noticed a rust coloration forming in the uneven surface of the chip. I am also getting this rust coloration on an eye dropper I use to snort CS with when I get a sinus infection. This is the same rust color that my used coffee filter/strainer gets if I leave laying out for a day or so. I don't know what is causing this but it has something to do with the CS. -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:08 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFiltering CS Talking about filtering CS, I bought the unbleached coffee filters, the Melitta brand. When I used them to filter my CS, the CS got darker yellow in color. This happened several times so I stopped using those coffee filters as I then figured that the filters are not really unbleached but maybe colored brown to look unbleached and perhaps the coloring is leaching into the CS. It was then suggested by the manufacturer of my CS generator that I could use white cotton handkerchiefs to filter the CS. So now I am using cotton hankies. However, I am noticing that whenever I rinse out the hankies and hang them to dry, I notice a rust colored stain develops on the part that was in contact with the CS. Now I am wondering where this rust color is originating from. The manufacturer has no explanation for the rust color and says that the silver strips being used for the electrodes are 99.9 silver. Any way of testing the electrodes for purity? Also, I am beginning to wonder if the rust is coming from the metal covers that I am using for the quart size mason jars that I use to make and store the CS. Any ideas or comments on this subject is appreciated. Thanks, Josephine . Terry replies: Leo, no filter that I have ever heard of can filter out particles of anything as small as CS (unless your CS is dark brown). . __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSitchin, etc
Kevin, you should also sign up below to silver off topic. Gonna have to go there, as we've used up our grace period here. Chuck Only two of my personalities are schizophrenic, but one of them is paranoid, and the other one is out to get him ! On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:50:51 +1100, Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Which brings us to Zacharia Sitchin. The silver-off-topic-list is primarily for the discussion of topics that need more discussion than can be given on the silver-list. Joanne Thomason-owner-moderator sam...@snowcrest.net Tracy Grant-moderator nwgr...@inet.net.nz To read previous messages: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silver-off-topic-list Sign in and then click messages. All messages are available, by date received, by thread and by subject of your choice. To subscribe to this group, send an email to: silver-off-topic-list-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - Huntington's disease
Try these three sites http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HuldaClarkEnthusiasts/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrClark/ http://drclark.net/ If you need more help, contact me off list. Leo Jerry Karl wrote: I have a friend who has Huntington's Disease. Does anyone know of alternative therapies to help alleviate or cure the symptoms ??? He was a brilliant young man who is now just a shadow of who he was. Please help !! Thank you, Jerry Karl --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.311 / Virus Database: 172 - Release Date: 12/27/2001 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
Nope, those rods are good stuff. Leo Josephine wrote: maybe the rust colored material is really rust and maybe the silver rods are part silver and part iron? Josephine So what is the rust coloured material. Is the process going too fast? Thanks for your help. This list is wonderful. Leo Kent and Carol wrote: I get the same rust colored stains on a measuring cup that I use. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: sweeten coffee or tea
Nancy, I'm curious ~~ what does the powder form of Stevia look like? My husband recently bought a new sugar that we keep at our cabin; it is light brown, seems more course than regular brown sugar, sweet, but not sugary sweet, and very good!! Much better than regular sugar. I'd ask him what it is, but he's still sleeping; a, the joys of retirement. Marilyn~~ Marilyn- Powdered Stevia is whitish and very fine grained, not like sugar. The bottle says that to sweeten a cup of liquid one should dip a toothpick in it and stir the liquid with it, that's how concentrated it is. In other words, you don't use it like sugar. Your brown sugar sounds like Turbinado sugar, which is light brown but not clumpy like regular brown sugar. Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS brewing -- CAUTION
Reid Harvey wrote: Mike, Your cautions on the making of CS that is HVDC woke me up in the middle of the night, and I started mentally designing the finishing touches for Terry Chamberlain's approach, especially with the close proximity and curiosity of my two sons, five and nine. They do not need to be electrocuted. Reid, Prevention is preferred to resuscitation. Please assume that the warnings will not be understood just prior to the zap. Firmly and mechanically enclosing the electrodes, and any other voltage presenting parts is fairly foolproof. I envisioned an enclosure for the electrodes, made of clear plastic tube, hose, or a plastic bottle, with holes in it to allow current and/or water flow but not finger probing. Electrical interlock cutout switches could also be used, but fiddlefinger ingenuity could also bypass these.!! Does the house wiring have an earthleakage unit. If the wiring of the CS unit is set up correctly then the EL unit could save a life as a final resort. Regards, Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
