Re: CS>Various yeast posts
From: "Terry Chamberlin" Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:50 AM Terry, thanks for your reply and the link to Red Star. I hadn't looked at that product in a long time, and in my memory it was just another "brewer's" yeast. Once I run out of my Lewis Lab's brewer's yeast, I'm definitly going to switch to Red Star. I'm just hoping that Red Star is as palatable as Lewis---if you can call any yeast "palatable"! I'll pass on the Torula! Sharon *** Sharon said, "Terry, is there any particular brand of nutritional yeast that you use, or would recommend? And, BTW, where does "Torula" yeast fit among the various types?" Torula yeast is a type of nutritional yeast. See: http://www.bulkfoods.com/yeast.htm A very good brand in the US is Red Star. I also like another US brand called Yeast 500, if you can find it. Here in Canada, I use a Canadian brand. All the N. yeasts are similar, in that they are high in B vitamins, and a source of easy-to-digest protein. Some companies add other nutrients like extra calcium. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Where to bye a machine I can trust?
LolaV is on this site and sells them for really resonable and let's you pick his brain afterwards too this is the site...debbie http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/order.html Laura Stattel wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE--- 4.0 ;Hi to all! I am new and need some advice. Who I can trust to purchase a machine from and which one? Also, is it just distilled water and the silver (Bar?) nothing else added? I have been confused about different opinions I've read. Sorry if I sound like an Idiot this is all new to me. Thanks for any help you can give. Lola
Re: CS>Various yeast posts
Does anyone use vegemite or marmite nutritional yeast spread? I like it's salty yeast taste on sandwiches but they are both getting very expensive. Dennis. Terry Chamberlin wrote: Pat said, “I want to try nutritional yeastdo you always put it in liquid? I guess you need too much to just put it in capsules? I like the taste of yeast in beer or rolls, is it similar?” I put nutritional yeast into smoothies and stew, I pour it all over salad and pop corn, I love it mixed together into mayo and put on brocolli. N. yeast comes in tablets, but you would need to eat literally handfuls of them to equal a few tbsn of yeast powder (or flakes). The yeast taste in beer or rolls is not the same kind of yeast, that is the baking yeast flavor. V said, “I make nice smoothies for breakfast that are quite yummy. I use two raw eggs A little water to thin it out.” Don’t use a little water, use CS. Sharon said, “Terry, is there any particular brand of nutritional yeast that you use, or would recommend? And, BTW, where does "Torula" yeast fit among the various types?” Torula yeast is a type of nutritional yeast. See: http://www.bulkfoods.com/yeast.htm A very good brand in the US is Red Star. I also like another US brand called Yeast 500, if you can find it. Here in Canada, I use a Canadian brand. All the N. yeasts are similar, in that they are high in B vitamins, and a source of easy-to-digest protein. Some companies add other nutrients like extra calcium. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Niacin
Sorry. Should have been: I have NOT been able to research such a procedure. A good friend determined to do something is on the verge of corrective surgery, which of course should be avoided. Any references to the corrective procedure would be greatly appreciated. - Original Message - From: "James McCourt, Ph.D." To: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:31 PM Subject: Re: CS>Niacin > I have been able to research such a procedure. A good friend determined to > do something is on the verge of corrective surgery, which of course should > be avoided. Any references to the corrective procedure would be greatly > appreciated. > > - Original Message - > From: "V" > To: "Pat" > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Niacin > > > > Hi Pat, > > > > yeah acid reflux is a diffrenet problem. that happens when the little > valve at the bottom of the esaphagus that closes off the stomach get stuck > in the open position then acid come up and burns the esophagus which is not > made to withstad acid from stomach. some aloe vera preperations help with > taht but i heard there was a way to reset the valve so it closes and opens > properly again but i dont know the proceduer. it is somethnig you can do > yourself. > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > V > > > > > > > It was just assumed I had too much acid. The first time I had pain and > > > it went through to my back. The doctor assumed I had an ulcer and > > > didn't think testing was necessary since it was my first problem. The > > > Zantac worked great (took it for 6 weeks) and I never had a problem > > > again with that. Then the other time I was having lots of chest pain > > > which we figured out was really coming from the stomach or esophagus. > > > She assumed it was from acid splashing into the esophagus (acid reflux) > > > and prescribed Prilosec which increased my pain. So I took Zantac > again > > > and it made everything feel good. I take it now if I overeat or > > > whatever and have a one time burning pain in the chest. Often Tums or > > > other antacids made me feel like I'd eaten a concrete block. > > > > > > > Pat > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>AIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
I do not know whether something other than HIV is the cause of AIDS, and your ideas about HPV may be correct. The main point, so far as I am concerned, is that the heated blood products did not cause AIDS or raise HIV in hemophiliacs who received it. Heating destroyed whatever pathogen causes elevated HIV readings and AIDS. If the infectious agent becomes resistant to heating, we are all in big trouble if we need an infusion. However, there are artificial blood products now, and storage of one's own blood is an (expensive) option. . . . On Wednesday, Jan 4, 2006, at 02:27 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: This is true, but the conclusion is likely wrong. Those that had high HIV also probably had HPV, one of the viruses that CAN cause AIDS or benzene (or a derivative) in the blood. That resulted in a high HIV test for one of two reasons. First if HIV does exist, it is a marker and increased due to the crippled immune system so it is over the threshold value tested for when the blood is diluted 100:1. So testing for HIV is an effective test for a crippled immune system, and whatever was crippling it was still in the blood. Or second, it is known that the HIV test will test positive for lots of things, including the HPV virus, so it could have been simply resonding to the present HPV virus. Marshall "Jonathan B. Britten" wrote: Jim San, I am not an MD, nor am I in the blood products business; I can not answer your question specifically. Bottom line: a group here called the Green Cross, headed by the late, wicked Dr. Abe, knew perfectly well that the unheated blood products were a risk. They sold them because they did not want to lose money. The persons who used the unheated products had high levels of HIV; those who did not, did not. Those with high HIV levels were the ones who developed AIDS. Most died. Best I can do without doing research which you can do yourself. It was big news in the English newspapers as well. Probably lots of vetted papers online, at least abstracts. Good luck. JBB On Tuesday, Jan 3, 2006, at 15:54 Asia/Tokyo, Jim Holmes wrote: Hello Jonathan, How long was the blood heated at what temp ranges? How long after inoculation did symptoms appear? Do you know anyone who can produce a paper on the isolation of and culture of the HIV viron? Jim -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>AIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/ I can tell you this: many Japanese hemophiliacs, including many who have died from AIDS, were infected with HIV by using unheated blood products imported from the USA. At the time, heated products were available, but unsold unheated products were imported and sold for reasons of profit. Those who used heated products were not infected with HIV and did not develop AIDS. This is well-documented and has been a topic in mainstream news in Japan for many, many years. There was even a lengthy trial of an elderly MD who was clearly responsible for the disaster but was never convicted; he became senile and died first. Bottom line: an identifiable group of persons was infected with HIV from unheated blood products; those who used heated products were not infected. Heating killed the infectious agent, which is almost certainly HIV. I have no reason to doubt the existence of HIV or the claim that it is the primary cause of AIDS. As for Dr. Gallo, I read recently that he himself is suffering from cancer, alas. On Wednesday, Dec 28, 2005, at 05:20 Asia/Tokyo, Jim Holmes wrote: If anyone can find a paper demonstrating either the successful isolation of or culturing of the virus, please send to me the information on how to get a copy. I know a PhD microbiologist who has been searching for such a paper for several years. A friend of his directly asked Robert Gallo (Received credit for creating the first test for the condition) for the paper, and Gallo turned white, said nothing, and turned and walked rapidly away. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Parasite Cleanse
To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! Pat - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Also, wouldn't a colonoscopy reveal parasites? I had one 3 years ago that was fine, but they did find a "harmless" cyst in the liver. I couldn't find anything about parasites on Medscape except about Mexican immigrants and Africans. If they're so prevalent, surely gastroenterologists would be concerned. Pat - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener. Bad for the heart. I believe the salts they use are the problem. Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me his tomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly. It turned out that he was using water from the softener he had installed that year. Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other living things! Chuck I'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished. On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com) wrote: > From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I > didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send. > Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water > distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water > instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine used > to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run through > it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine > periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material > doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, > especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells > these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I > live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is > regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't > do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tell > if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use > of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To > post, add
Re: CS>Where to bye a machine I can trust?
Mike D. & Laura, Here are two very good machines according to the members of this list: Colloid Master http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/item52.htm Silver Puppy http://www.silvermedicine.org/silverpuppy-generators.html The Colloid Master does not need a stirrer as the method used generates a stirring action in the CS naturally. Both are totally automatic and reasonably priced. Bill Keen "M. G. Devour" wrote: > Hi to all! I am new and need some advice. Who I can trust to purchase a > machine from and which one? Also, is it just distilled water and the > silver (Bar?) nothing else added? I have been confused about different > opinions I've read. Sorry if I sound like an Idiot this is all new to > me. Thanks for any help you can give. Lola
Re: CS>AIDS http://theothersideofaids.com/
"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote: > I do not know whether something other than HIV is the cause of AIDS, > and your ideas about HPV may be correct. > > The main point, so far as I am concerned, is that the heated blood > products did not cause AIDS or raise HIV in hemophiliacs who received > it. Heating destroyed whatever pathogen causes elevated HIV readings > and AIDS. Maybe, or it could have destroyed or neutralized a toxin, such as benzene. > > > If the infectious agent becomes resistant to heating, we are all in big > trouble if we need an infusion. However, there are artificial blood > products now, and storage of one's own blood is an (expensive) option. > . . . This is actually done quite often when one knows that an operation is coming up. I think it is less expensive to do this then to buy blood. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
And you call this "colloidal SILVER"? Just what is brass made of? NOUN: A yellowish alloy of copper and zinc, sometimes including small amounts of other metals, but usually 67 percent copper and 33 percent zinc. Now you are taking a mixture of silver, copper and zinc. NOT something that I would want to put into my body. Why didn't you just use 2 silver electrodes? THEN you would have CS that is safe to use. Bill Keen Robert Berger wrote: Greetings Jill, I enjoyed your post, because a group of my friends are going to take a cruise in the Caribbean, there has been a lot of illness associated with these cruises. So they might need a portable generator to take care of any problems. I made "generator" using one 9 volt battery with one 4 3/4", #12 silver anode and one 4 3/4", 3/32" brass cathode rod. I used the connector that I removed from an old 9 v battery, and soldered the electrodes in the holes. That makes 1/2" spacing of the electrodes. With 13 ounces of Kansas City water in a table glass and stirring for 2 minutes the silver content measured 12. PPM and the current averaged about 36mA. (actual measure). The water took on a slight milky color due to the formation of silver chloride. It had no unusual taste. Now, I would like to know how much time you! used the 3- 9's, and what electrode length, spacing, and amount of water? "Ole Bob"
CS>Re: CS >tap water CS
Bill, I think you should of asked why she used a brass cathode instead of barking at her. The dc process is different than an ac process. Since you claim to know nothing of the dc process and your claim to fame is your HVAC gen you could learn something for a change. Sam L --- On Wed 01/04, Bill Keen < bkee...@sbcglobal.net > wrote: From: Bill Keen [mailto: bkee...@sbcglobal.net] To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:02:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: CS >tap water CS And you call this "colloidal SILVER"? Just what is brass made of? NOUN: A yellowish alloy of copper and zinc, sometimes including small amounts of other metals, but usually 67 percent copper and 33 percent zinc. Now you are taking a mixture of silver, copper and zinc. NOT something that I would want to put into my body. Why didn't you just use 2 silver electrodes? THEN you would have CS that is safe to use. Bill KeenRobert Berger wrote:Greetings Jill, I enjoyed your post, because a group of my friends are going to take a cruise in the Caribbean, there has been a lot of illness associated with the! se cruises. So they might need a portable generator to take care of any problems. I made "generator" using one 9 volt battery with one 4 3/4", #12 silver anode and one 4 3/4", 3/32" brass cathode rod. I used the connector that I removed from an old 9 v battery, and soldered the electrodes in the holes. That makes 1/2" spacing of the electrodes. With 13 ounces of Kansas City water in a table glass and stirring for 2 minutes the silver content measured 12. PPM and the current averaged about 36mA. (actual measure). The water took on a slight milky color due to the formation of silver chloride. It had no unusual taste. Now, I would like to know how much time you! used the 3- 9's, and what electrode length, spacing, and amount of water? "Ole Bob" ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Hi Pat I sell a zapper to eliminate parasites. I didn't see any parasites from myself but my daughter with fibromyalgia had five bowel movements filled with white rice-like worms the first day she used it . I suspect it was pin worms. Thirty days after she finished her zapping, she told me her fibromyalgia was gone. A nurse friend of mine screamed and telephoned me when she had a tape worm in her stool. A woman with a ALS - like illness passed worms for over twelve hours the first day she used it. Many of my customers have reported worms in their stools. I saw nothing. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; 4optimall...@rogers.com ; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers To: silver list Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:47 AM Subject: CS>Parasite Cleanse To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time!
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Pat, CS will not cleanse you of anything larger than germs. I hate to be the one to break it to you but you are covered with parasites. Ask your 'doctor'. What you are referring to are worms and they come in all sizes and shapes and reside everywhere in your body. There are many good herbal 'cleanses' available. Just Google it to find them. The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). For pets: sprinkle a little on their food (wet is best). For people: The only warning is to keep it out of eyes - it CAN cause minor scratches to the lens so flush immediately but don't be too concerned. It is a dry white powder and can be taken however you want. Oderless, tasteless and will go into suspension but will not dissolve. Absolutely NO side affects. (I also get really bothered with the 'little thingies hanging out'!) Best Wishes, Bill Keen Pat wrote: To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! Pat - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Pat, Pat, Pat, - - - Doctors and pharmas don't make money off of well folks! You'll have to look at the herbalists and naturopaths to find the truth. Bill Keen Pat wrote: Also, wouldn't a colonoscopy reveal parasites? I had one 3 years ago that was fine, but they did find a "harmless" cyst in the liver. I couldn't find anything about parasites on Medscape except about Mexican immigrants and Africans. If they're so prevalent, surely gastroenterologists would be concerned.
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
We all have parasites all the time. Some you can get rid of permanently, some only temporarily. But others like the mites that live in the follicles of your eyelashes are impossible to eradicate. However gross, I think we have forgotten that until just the last couple of hundred years at the most, humans lived infested from birth to death. These parasites evolved right along with us after all, and they are very good at surviving. In addition many parasites (even some intestinal worms) provide benefits, such as reduced allergies. There are some "out there" scientists and physicians who think a lot of the current epidemic of allergies is due to the fact humans in developed countries don't have tapeworms anymore. We live surrounded by a world of bacteria, viruses, fungi, plus all the multicelled parasites. And I am certainly not willing to give up the joy and wonder of living with household pets because they might give me worms, of course, I luckily live where household pets almost never have fleas, don't get heartworm, seldom get tapeworms, etc because of the very long, very cold winters. It is one of the consolations. LOL. While I'm not ready to drink a glass of tapeworm eggs, or tolerate head lice or body lice, I am really trying to not be so upset by the fact I'm part of the web of life, not separate from it. I'm not there yet, but I'm trying to chill out about those eyelash mites. sol Pat wrote: To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Where to bye a machine I can trust?
I love my Silverpuppy magnetic stir. And it is the best value for the price, even shipping is included. The price on the silverpuppy website is the total price. If you want to go with an automatic generator the Silverpuppy is a great generator. Others have already mentioned the Silvergen SG-6 which is also a very good generator. If you are seriously cash strapped, V's unit looks good, it is cheaper than what it cost me to make a basic generator of my own. But basic generators are more work, and give less consistent results than automatic ones with stirring built in. I don't think they can produce large batches either. I make large batches with both my silverpuppy and my SG-6. (half gallon to gallon). It is sometimes not easy to know when you start out with EIS (CS) how much you are going to want or need, or whatall uses you may want it for. Some people stay content with a cup or so made every few days, and that fits their needs perfectly, and they don't mind wires trailing, and alligator clips and so forth. At my house, we use a couple of gallons of CS each week, so I can't be making it by 8 ounce batches, not do I have time to babysit a non-automatic setup. Nor am I happy with mare's nests of wires and alligator clips. Hence I feel an automatic generator with stirring has been well worth the initial investment for me. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: LolaV is on this site and sells them for really resonable and let's you pick his brain afterwards too this is the site...debbie http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/order.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Unidentified subject!
From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send. Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine used to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run through it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tell if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
You should watch the big bugs scene in the latest King Kong movie, then. You would probably have a heart attack on the spot. LOL! -Ken Bagwell Pat wrote: To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! Pat - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CS>Colloid master, vs Silverpuppy, was Re: CS>Where to bye a machine I can trust?
Not to quibble overmuch but several people have found they did need to add stirring of some kind to the colloid master. It is also not as self-contained as the Silverpuppy and the Silvergen. And it does require use of alligator clips attached to wires that have to be clipped onto the flat silver electrodes. None of the above is a particularly big deal, but the Colloid Master is also about the same price as the Silverpuppy magnetic stir unit when shipping costs is added in (it may actually end up more expensive by a bit). It will certainly be more expensive once some kind of stirring is added as many have found necessary. To me the advantages of the more compact, pup, with stirring built in, and no wires trailing around, no alligator clips, makes it far the better, more convenient to use and more economical option. Many Colloid Master owners seem happy with their generators, but I myself don't think I would have liked it. just my two cents, which I wanted to add, as many people believe the Silverpuppy is more expensive, and I don't think it is, once you add in the additional costs to the Colloid Master. sol Bill Keen wrote: Mike D. & Laura, Here are two very good machines according to the members of this list: Colloid Master http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/item52.htm Silver Puppy http://www.silvermedicine.org/silverpuppy-generators.html The Colloid Master does not need a stirrer as the method used generates a stirring action in the CS naturally. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used internally for humans or animals. I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill earthworms and bees as well as slugs. sol Bill Keen wrote: Pat, CS will not cleanse you of anything larger than germs. I hate to be the one to break it to you but you are covered with parasites. Ask your 'doctor'. What you are referring to are worms and they come in all sizes and shapes and reside everywhere in your body. There are many good herbal 'cleanses' available. Just Google it to find them. The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). For pets: sprinkle a little on their food (wet is best). For people: The only warning is to keep it out of eyes - it CAN cause minor scratches to the lens so flush immediately but don't be too concerned. It is a dry white powder and can be taken however you want. Oderless, tasteless and will go into suspens! ion but will not dissolve. Absolutely NO side affects. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
So the feedstore variety should be ok for human consumption, shouldn't it? Shelli - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used internally for humans or animals. I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill earthworms and bees as well as slugs. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
Hi Ruth, Hard water has mineral carbonates that cause the hard build-up in you still. Soft water basically has the same minerals but the compounds has been changed so that things do not scale. Either water when distilled will make good silver solutions. "Ole bob"
Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
If you must drink softened water, it is better to use potassium rather than the sodium to soften the water. Costs about $1 a bag more. You may have to search a bit for it. Kallie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject! You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener. Bad for the heart. I believe the salts they use are the problem. Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me his tomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly. It turned out that he was using water from the softener he had installed that year. Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other living things! Chuck I'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished. On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com) wrote: From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send. Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine used to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run through it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tell if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, add
CS>finding parasites
Another way of thinking---click those heels and holler whoopee!!!It's (they're) gone!! No more trouble from that one (or from them). Now for the rest of 'em. :) pj
CS>distiller questions, was Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
So would it help to add filtration of some kind or a Reverse Osmosis unit before the water goes to the distiller? Am I right that Ruth's distiller is continuous flow? I have a weird thing here: we use a Waterpik R-7 faucet filter but distilling filtered tap water results in higher uS distilled water than if I use unfiltered hot water. This is the opposite of what was true the first months I used the distiller. And I can't even make a guess what is going on. sol Robert Berger wrote: Hi Ruth, Hard water has mineral carbonates that cause the hard build-up in you still. Soft water basically has the same minerals but the compounds has been changed so that things do not scale. Either water when distilled will make good silver solutions. "Ole bob" -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Gastro doc's are not educated in nutrition, unless they are a D.O. and are not educated in mycology that is a Phd, if the two would come together we would be doing great...but the Medical schools are owned by the pharmaciticals and they TRAIN their doctor's to cut or write a prescription I went thru hell with Irritable bowel syndrome and was treated like an idiot I was broke, sick all the time and depressed and finally asked the doc's what in the heck do you learn in school because they had no clue how to treat me...now I got hooked up with a doc who knew his stuff and knew exactly what he was dealing with and how to go after itbut he is a rare doctor...deb Bill Keen wrote:Pat, Pat, Pat, - - - Doctors and pharmas don't make money off of well folks! You'll have to look at the herbalists and naturopaths to find the truth. Bill Keen Pat wrote: Also, wouldn't a colonoscopy reveal parasites? I had one 3 years ago that was fine, but they did find a "harmless" cyst in the liver. I couldn't find anything about parasites on Medscape except about Mexican immigrants and Africans. If they're so prevalent, surely gastroenterologists would be concerned.
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Pat a colonoscophy would not reveal parasite's because it takes a microscope to see most of themgo to a site like www.mercola.com and type in his search engine. Like I said earlier doc's generally don't know to look for fungus or yeast in the bowel they are trained to look only for certain things and you or I surely are not going to tell a doctor anything after all we have not been to medical school like they have so we do not know anything, according to themdebbie Pat wrote:Also, wouldn't a colonoscopy reveal parasites? I had one 3 years ago that was fine, but they did find a "harmless" cyst in the liver. I couldn't find anything about parasites on Medscape except about Mexican immigrants and Africans. If they're so prevalent, surely gastroenterologists would be concerned. Pat - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CS>Diatomaceous earth
Bill Keen, Everywhere I have seen diatomaceous earth's use for animal or human consumption discussed, we are strongly warned to avoid the swimming pool filter type because it may be processed with heat that significantly alters its chemical and physical properties, making it vastly more dangerous if accidentally inhaled. You claim to have observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes, and are urging our members on the basis of that casual impression to ignore an industry-wide safety standard. Lacking microscopic and chemical analysis that proves that swimming pool filter grade diatomaceous earth is IN EVERY CASE indistinguishable from food grade in terms of percentage of free silica content and freedom from other contaminants, I believe it would be prudent for our members to refrain from using swimming pool grade DE. If you do discover such information and wish to share it with us, please do so, as we would be interested. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner Bill Keen wrote: > Terry, > > Check your facts. There are no crystals in DE. It is a naturally > occurring calceous product of organic origin and is not processed. > > Just where did you get the info that you are supporting? Have you > done ANY research for yourself or have you just listened to the > nonsense some self-proclaimed 'experts' have given you? > > I have never found 'Food Grade' and therefore never used it. A > natural substance, ground up and bagged, had no serious contaminants. > You appear to be a 'sheeple' who believes that the Feds have all the > answers to your problems. That is what "food grade' really is - a > federal scam. > > I have never paid the exhorbitant sums they ask for the pool filter > DE but I have checked the bags/boxes and they are the same as the feed > store variety. Those that have used the pool filter source have > reported that there were no clumps or anything else different from what > I showed them in my bag. > > Bill Keen [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Diatomaceous earth
> The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of > intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the > local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). This is quite important: You should only use FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth, not the stuff used in pools. The packaging must say FOOD GRADE. The pool stuff has been heated too much in processing, and it has melted the crystals into chunks that should not be ingested. Nurseries carry it, and sometimes feed stores. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Fw: CS>Parasite Cleanse //Show this to Kathy
- Original Message - From: 4optimallife To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse Hi Pat I sell a zapper to eliminate parasites. I didn't see any parasites from myself but my daughter with fibromyalgia had five bowel movements filled with white rice-like worms the first day she used it . I suspect it was pin worms. Thirty days after she finished her zapping, she told me her fibromyalgia was gone. A nurse friend of mine screamed and telephoned me when she had a tape worm in her stool. A woman with a ALS - like illness passed worms for over twelve hours the first day she used it. Many of my customers have reported worms in their stools. I saw nothing. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; 4optimall...@rogers.com ; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers To: silver list Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:47 AM Subject: CS>Parasite Cleanse To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time!
Re: CS>Niacin
In a message dated 1/3/2006 7:08:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, dr...@earthlink.net writes: the open position then acid come up and burns the esophagus which is not made to withstad acid from stomach. some aloe vera preperations help with taht but i heard there was a way to reset the valve so it closes and opens properly again but i dont know the proceduer. it is somethnig you can do yourself. > Please post a reference in case you find the procedure top reset the valve. I tried a google search and it did not find the procedure. Brickey
Re: CS>Diatomaceous earth
Terry, Check your facts. There are no crystals in DE. It is a naturally occurring calceous product of organic origin and is not processed. Just where did you get the info that you are supporting? Have you done ANY research for yourself or have you just listened to the nonsense some self-proclaimed 'experts' have given you? I have never found 'Food Grade' and therefore never used it. A natural substance, ground up and bagged, had no serious contaminants. You appear to be a 'sheeple' who believes that the Feds have all the answers to your problems. That is what "food grade' really is - a federal scam. I have never paid the exhorbitant sums they ask for the pool filter DE but I have checked the bags/boxes and they are the same as the feed store variety. Those that have used the pool filter source have reported that there were no clumps or anything else different from what I showed them in my bag. Bill Keen Terry Chamberlin wrote: > The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of > intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the > local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). This is quite important: You should only use FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth, not the stuff used in pools. The packaging must say FOOD GRADE. The pool stuff has been heated too much in processing, and it has melted the crystals into chunks that should not be ingested. Nurseries carry it, and sometimes feed stores.
Re: CS>tap water CS
Perhaps "Ole Bob" will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in with what I've learned here... The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With this DC system we should get the good quality "colloidal silver" that we expect. Dan >> Subject: Re: CS>tap water CS >> From: Bill Keen >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:02:46 -0800 (PST) >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >>And you call this "colloidal SILVER"? Just what is brass made of? >> NOUN: A yellowish alloy of copper and zinc, sometimes including small amounts of other metals, but usually 67 percent copper and 33 percent zinc. >> >> Now you are taking a mixture of silver, copper and zinc. NOT something that I would want to put into my body. >> >> Why didn't you just use 2 silver electrodes? THEN you would have CS that is safe to use. >> >> Bill Keen >> >>Robert Berger wrote: >>Greetings Jill, >> >> I enjoyed your post, because a group of my friends are going to take a cruise in the Caribbean, there has been a lot of illness associated with these cruises. So they might need a portable generator to take care of any problems. >> >> I made "generator" using one 9 volt battery with one 4 3/4", #12 silver anode and one 4 3/4", 3/32" brass cathode rod. I used the connector that I removed from an old 9 v battery, and soldered the electrodes in the holes. That makes 1/2" spacing of the electrodes. >> >> With 13 ounces of Kansas City water in a table glass and stirring for 2 minutes the silver content measured 12. PPM and the current averaged about 36mA. (actual measure). >> >> The water took on a slight milky color due to the formation of silver chloride. It had no unusual taste. >> >> Now, I would like to know how much time you! used the 3- 9's, and what electrode length, spacing, and amount of water? >> >> "Ole Bob" >> >> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 1/4/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
So, Dan, You support the "hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current flow? Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the positive electrode? I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a knowledgable individual out there who really knows? Bill Keen Dan Nave wrote: Perhaps "Ole Bob" will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in with what I've learned here... The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With this DC system we should get the good quality "colloidal silver" that we expect. Dan
Re: CS>tap water CS
So, Dan, You support the "hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current flow? Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the positive electrode? I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a knowledgable individual out there who really knows? Bill Keen Dan Nave wrote: Perhaps "Ole Bob" will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in with what I've learned here... The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With this DC system we should get the good quality "colloidal silver" that we expect. Dan
Re: CS>tap water CS
Hi Dan, You are absolutely correct. This EIS process is a very inferior silver plating process. The only difference between the two is the compostion of the liquid. In silver plating they use a cynanide solution to make the silver transport to the cathode effective. One can use copper, brass, or steel with aout problems as it will electroplate after several brews. Just wipe the cathode gently and you will see the silver palte gradually increase. This applies ONLY to straight DC , no polarity switching or AC permitted. "Ole Bob" Dan Nave wrote: Perhaps "Ole Bob" will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in with what I've learned here... The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With this DC system we should get the good quality "colloidal silver" that we expect. Dan >> Subject: Re: CS>tap water CS >> From: Bill Keen >> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:02:46 -0800 (PST) >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >>And you call this "colloidal SILVER"? Just what is brass made of? >> NOUN: A yellowish alloy of copper and zinc, sometimes including small amounts of other metals, but usually 67 percent copper and 33 percent zinc. >> >> Now you are taking a mixture of silver, copper and zinc. NOT something that I would want to put into my body. >> >> Why didn't you just use 2 silver electrodes? THEN you would have CS that is safe to use. >> >> Bill Keen >> >>Robert Berger wrote: >> Greetings Jill, >> >> I enjoyed your post, because a group of my friends are going to take a cruise in the Caribbean, there has been a lot of illness associated with these cruises. So they might need a portable generator to take care of any problems. >> >> I made "generator" using one 9 volt battery with one 4 3/4", #12 silver anode and one 4 3/4", 3/32" brass cathode rod. I used the connector that I removed from an old 9 v battery, and soldered the electrodes in the holes. That makes 1/2" spacing of the electrodes. >> >> With 13 ounces of Kansas City water in a table glass and stirring for 2 minutes the silver content measured 12. PPM and the current averaged about 36mA. (actual measure). >> >> The water took on a slight milky color due to the formation of silver chloride. It had no unusual taste. >> >> Now, I would like to know how much time you! used the 3- 9's, and what electrode length, spacing, and amount of water? >> >> "Ole Bob" >> >> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 1/4/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>tap water CS
Hi Bill, He He he. well you may pursue that questions the rest fo your life becaues I dont think anybody knows the answers to those queshtions to this day. Even the scientists that are studying it all have not come to any conclusino on that. I think in a wire the electrons move but in a liquid then bothe the holes nad the electrons move. and what are electrons anyway? are they particles or waves or jsut cloauds of some energy or an etheric vortex or an interference pattern of the nuclear radiation wave fronts. If you can nail that one down then your doing good. Take care, V > So, Dan, > > You support the "hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the > electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current > flow? > > Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive > element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the > positive electrode? > I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a > knowledgable individual out there who really knows? > > Bill Keen > > > Dan Nave wrote: > Perhaps "Ole Bob" will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in > with what I've learned here... > The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this > case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is > not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With > this DC system we should get the good quality "colloidal silver" that we > expect. > Dan -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Diatomaceous earth
how do you know how much to take and is there a die-off to deal with? this is a whole new thing to me...thanks debbie Terry Chamberlin wrote: > The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of > intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the > local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). This is quite important: You should only use FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth, not the stuff used in pools. The packaging must say FOOD GRADE. The pool stuff has been heated too much in processing, and it has melted the crystals into chunks that should not be ingested. Nurseries carry it, and sometimes feed stores. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>best 'green' food powder?/
Earthwise Organic is certainly no match for Cyanotech Organic. Yaeyama is the king of Chlorella, Taiwan may be acceptable to some, but just compare the two of them... http://www.ybsweb.co.jp/exhf1com.html I never heard of wild harvested Spirulina being sold commercially? epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: actually the best Chlorella is produced in Tiawan..Japan is a very industrialized nation and because of this it's high polution makes it a very great challenge to produce adequate quanities to support the demand; due to effective marketing it is most recognized. Because of the high population density and demand of Chlorella, Japan buys alot of it's surplus from Taiwan, a known fact. Hawain does claim to be the best Spirulina, but Earthwise organic is just as good. Not all Spirulina is grown in the wild. Wild spirulina is something to be vary of because it can contain toxins from the pond that it's grown wild in. There have been cases of people getting sick from taking wild Spirulina. Ernie >From: Ole Alstrup >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>best 'green' food powder?/ >Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:06:55 + (GMT) > >Different species of algae with somewhat different nutrient profiles. >People experience different effects from them. Chlorella is a green algae. >Spirulina is a blue green algae and is sometimes confused with Blue Green >Algae (Aphanizomenon flos-aquae aka AFA) which is harvested in the wild >from Lake Klamath in Oregon. Compared with spirulina, AFA has some unique >rejuvenating energetic effects on the brain and nervous system, presumably >because it contains certain neuropeptide amino acid combinations. > > Best Spirulina is Hawaiian Spirulina Pacifica cultivated by Cyanotech >Corp. > > Best Chlorella is Yaeyama Chlorella which is cultivated in Japan > > Best AFA is E3Live processed by Vision Inc . > >mborg...@att.net wrote: > I read the report, what is the differance between blue green >algae(whole food) and chlorella and spirulina > > > >- >Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a >photo. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online search now -
CS>'lectricity
>I have a piece of wire. Which end should I put the 'lectricity into? My son, It depends on whether you subscribe to the hole flow or the electron flow theory of electricity. In other words, whether you belong to the Technician school or the Engineering school. Listen to the teaching of the not-so-ancient ones, and heed it well: If thou belongest to the Technician school, put the electricity into the negative end of the wire. If, on the other hand, thou subscribest to the Engineering school, which some feel to be a higher discipline, thou should put the electricity into the positive end. If thou takest this teaching to heart, the electricity should flow in thine wire, and soon the light which is output thereby shall reach even to the furthest corners of thy room and the secret of illumination shall be thine forever. Sri Coulomb V. Wattman, Master Electrician Ohm Shankar > Subject: Re: CS>tap water CS > From: Bill Keen > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:04:33 -0800 (PST) > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > So, Dan, > >You support the "hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current flow? > >Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the positive electrode? > >I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a knowledgable individual out there who really knows? > >Bill Keen > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.13/221 - Release Date: 1/4/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
See the altcancer.com page about parasites, and the general ignore-ance of them by the mainstream medical community. I found it very educational. I recall one person having been persistently misdiagnosed; one doctor insisted that the filament-like parasites in the patient were contamination of the sample. Years ago, a Readers' Digest article focused on a child who died of a parasite that destroyed the brain. The child got if from playing in a sandbox with an infected child. The parasite normally infects the human bowels. The doctor noticed on several occasions, when opening the skull to relieve pressure through a shunt, the smell of fecal matter. He disbelieved the evidence of his own senses, and missed the crucial clue.The parasite was found on autopsy. In both cases, the MDs were not so much negligent as ignorant: the particular parasites are not common in the USA now. But others are. . . . On Wednesday, Jan 4, 2006, at 23:04 Asia/Tokyo, Pat wrote: Also, wouldn't a colonoscopy reveal parasites? I had one 3 years ago that was fine, but they did find a "harmless" cyst in the liver. I couldn't find anything about parasites on Medscape except about Mexican immigrants and Africans. If they're so prevalent, surely gastroenterologists would be concerned. Pat Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Sol, I agree with you wholeheartedly about this, and I am thus keenly interested in probiotics as a means of sustaining health over the long term. I can recommend two great books: Earth Saving Revolution Vols. 1 and 2, by Terao Higa, PhD. Both focus on microorganisms and their applications in agriculture, health, and industry. The English translations are superb. There is a Yahoo list devoted to the use of home-brew probiotics for human health.It is worth reading. The moderator is Vinny Pinto: Google his name and you will find his sites. JBB On Thursday, Jan 5, 2006, at 04:43 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote: We all have parasites all the time. Some you can get rid of permanently, some only temporarily. But others like the mites that live in the follicles of your eyelashes are impossible to eradicate. However gross, I think we have forgotten that until just the last couple of hundred years at the most, humans lived infested from birth to death. These parasites evolved right along with us after all, and they are very good at surviving. In addition many parasites (even some intestinal worms) provide benefits, such as reduced allergies. There are some "out there" scientists and physicians who think a lot of the current epidemic of allergies is due to the fact humans in developed countries don't have tapeworms anymore. We live surrounded by a world of bacteria, viruses, fungi, plus all the multicelled parasites. And I am certainly not willing to give up the joy and wonder of living with household pets because they might give me worms, of course, I luckily live where household pets almost never have fleas, don't get heartworm, seldom get tapeworms, etc because of the very long, very cold winters. It is one of the consolations. LOL. While I'm not ready to drink a glass of tapeworm eggs, or tolerate head lice or body lice, I am really trying to not be so upset by the fact I'm part of the web of life, not separate from it. I'm not there yet, but I'm trying to chill out about those eyelash > mites. sol Pat wrote: To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
I googled his name on Yahoo and there are about four site's that came up is there one in particular that is better than the other's? thanks deb "Jonathan B. Britten" wrote: Sol, I agree with you wholeheartedly about this, and I am thus keenly interested in probiotics as a means of sustaining health over the long term. I can recommend two great books: Earth Saving Revolution Vols. 1 and 2, by Terao Higa, PhD. Both focus on microorganisms and their applications in agriculture, health, and industry. The English translations are superb. There is a Yahoo list devoted to the use of home-brew probiotics for human health. It is worth reading. The moderator is Vinny Pinto: Google his name and you will find his sites. JBB On Thursday, Jan 5, 2006, at 04:43 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote: > We all have parasites all the time. Some you can get rid of > permanently, some only temporarily. But others like the mites that > live in the follicles of your eyelashes are impossible to eradicate. > > However gross, I think we have forgotten that until just the last > couple of hundred years at the most, humans lived infested from birth > to death. These parasites evolved right along with us after all, and > they are very good at surviving. > In addition many parasites (even some intestinal worms) provide > benefits, such as reduced allergies. There are some "out there" > scientists and physicians who think a lot of the current epidemic of > allergies is due to the fact humans in developed countries don't have > tapeworms anymore. We live surrounded by a world of bacteria, viruses, > fungi, plus all the multicelled parasites. And I am certainly not > willing to give up the joy and wonder of living with household pets > because they might give me worms, of course, I luckily live where > household pets almost never have fleas, don't get heartworm, seldom > get tapeworms, etc because of the very long, very cold winters. It is > one of the consolations. LOL. > > While I'm not ready to drink a glass of tapeworm eggs, or tolerate > head lice or body lice, I am really trying to not be so upset by the > fact I'm part of the web of life, not separate from it. I'm not there > yet, but I'm trying to chill out about those eyelash > mites. > sol > > Pat wrote: > >> To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A >> roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and >> screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up >> a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, >> and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm >> thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. >> http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? >> Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs >> but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see >> nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental >> institution next time! >> >> > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Sol, Apparently, with exo-skeleton insects it cuts the cartilage which prevents movement and they starve to death. I'm not sure how it would affect earthworms. I guess if they had worms it would cleanse them too. Ha Ha. I have never found 'grading' on any DE. Bill Keen sol wrote: I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used internally for humans or animals. I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill earthworms and bees as well as slugs. sol Bill Keen wrote:
CS>lupus to grace
I am wondering in part if the woman was healed of her illness because of the pau d arco usage in addition to the cs. severe candida infections can mimic or aggravate lupus and pau de arco is a very effective systemic antifungal. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>ODE TO MIKE
Dear List- Happy Holidays to all. I love this list. When we disagree, then all come together to help someone who is very ill or has a friend who is ill; AMAZING. Kudos to you Mike. You are the catalyst, the balance, the monitor. Thank you for the inspiration. You challenge us to be our very best, and you spank us when we're not. Ha, ha, ha. Through it all your life happens too. Sorry for your pain. We all care. Gladys - Original Message - From: 4optimallife <4optimall...@rogers.com> Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2006 11:58 am Subject: Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse > Hi Pat > > I sell a zapper to eliminate parasites. I didn't see any > parasites from myself but my daughter with fibromyalgia had five > bowel movements filled with white rice-like worms the first day > she used it . I suspect it was pin worms. Thirty days after she > finished her zapping, she told me her fibromyalgia was gone. > > A nurse friend of mine screamed and telephoned me when she had a > tape worm in her stool. A woman with a ALS - like illness passed > worms for over twelve hours the first day she used it. Many of my > customers have reported worms in their stools. I saw nothing. > > Kallie Miller > www.4optimallife.com; > 4optimall...@rogers.com ; > Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, > zappers > > To: silver list > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:47 AM > Subject: CS>Parasite Cleanse > > > To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! > A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and > screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick > up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room > floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, > I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. > http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that > work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill > parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do > that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be > writing from the mental institution next time! > >
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Try this information: For basic information on EM as well as it's uses in human and animal health, please see the EM Information website, at: http://www.eminfo.info For more advanced information on EM products for human use, please see the Antiox Brew website, at: http://www.antioxbrew.com To send a post to the list, please send an e-mail to em-hea...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EM-health/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: em-health-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Best, JBB On Thursday, Jan 5, 2006, at 14:34 Asia/Tokyo, Deborah Gerard wrote: I googled his name on Yahoo and there are about four site's that came up is there one in particular that is better than the other's? thanks deb "Jonathan B. Britten" wrote: Sol, I agree with you wholeheartedly about this, and I am thus keenly interested in probiotics as a means of sustaining health over the long term. I can recommend two great books: Earth Saving Revolution Vols. 1 and 2, by Terao Higa, PhD. Both focus on microorganisms and their applications in agriculture, health, and industry. The English translations are superb. There is a Yahoo list devoted to the use of home-brew probiotics for human health. It is worth reading. The moderator is Vinny Pinto: Google his name and you will find his sites. JBB On Thursday, Jan! 5, 2006, at 04:43 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote: > We all have parasites all the time. Some you can get rid of > permanently, some only temporarily. But others like the mites that > live in the follicles of your eyelashes are impossible to eradicate. > > However gross, I think we have forgotten that until just the last > couple of hundred years at the most, humans lived infested from birth > to death. These parasites evolved right along with us after all, and > they are very good at surviving. > In addition many parasites (even some intestinal worms) provide > benefits, such as reduced allergies. There are some "out there" > scientists and physicians who think a lot of the current epidemic of > allergies is due to the fact humans in developed countries don't have > tapeworms anymore. We live surrounded by a world of bacteria, viruses, > fungi, plus all the multicelled parasites. And I am certai! nly not > willing to give up the joy and wonder of living with household pets > because they might give me worms, of course, I luckily live where > household pets almost never have fleas, don't get heartworm, seldom > get tapeworms, etc because of the very long, very cold winters. It is > one of the consolations. LOL. > > While I'm not ready to drink a glass of tapeworm eggs, or tolerate > head lice or body lice, I am really trying to not be so upset by the > fact I'm part of the web of life, not separate from it. I'm not there > yet, but I'm trying to chill out about those eyelash > mites. > sol > > Pat wrote: > >> To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A >> roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and >> screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up >> a squirming tapewor! m segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, >> and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm >> thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. >> http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? >> Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs >> but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see >> nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental >> institution next time! >> >> > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Diatomaceous earth
Mr. Devour, You made this statement: "You claim to have observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes, and are urging our members on the basis of that casual impression to ignore an industry-wide safety standard." At no time have I made this claim. I have not "observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes". What I stated was that I had checked the packaging and found no differences between that sold in the feed stores as plain DE and that sold for 3 to 10 times the price sold packaged and sold as Pool Filter medium. That is what I plainly stated. You then claim that it is an "industry-wide safety standard" AFTER you had previously written "Everywhere I have seen diatomaceous earth's use for animal or human consumption discussed, we are strongly warned to avoid the swimming pool filter type because it may be processed with heat " which NEVER mentions ANY industry standards just more rumors. As with most of the simple remedies the word "may" is acted upon as GOSPEL TRUTH by those who do not know any better. It would certainly seem appropriate to ban me from this list as I will continue to attempt to educate those who do not know how to check for themselves. Since I don't lie, most people do not realize that what I say is literally the truth without prevarication. As the owner, you have chosen to lie about what I have said so as to prejudice the group against my information. This is your choice and since it is your 'private property' to do with as you like, feel free. I was learning some here, as with all the groups that I monitor, but it isn't worth the hassle when this happens. Good bye and Best Wishes, Bill Keen "M. G. Devour" wrote: Bill Keen, Everywhere I have seen diatomaceous earth's use for animal or human consumption discussed, we are strongly warned to avoid the swimming pool filter type because it may be processed with heat that significantly alters its chemical and physical properties, making it vastly more dangerous if accidentally inhaled. You claim to have observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes, and are urging our members on the basis of that casual impression to ignore an industry-wide safety standard. Lacking microscopic and chemical analysis that proves that swimming pool filter grade diatomaceous earth is IN EVERY CASE indistinguishable from food grade in terms of percentage of free silica content and freedom from other contaminants, I believe it would be prudent for our members to refrain from using swimming pool grade DE. If you do discover such information and wish to share it with us, please do so, as we would be interested. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner Bill Keen wrote: > Terry, > > Check your facts. There are no crystals in DE. It is a naturally > occurring calceous product of organic origin and is not processed. > > Just where did you get the info that you are supporting? Have you > done ANY research for yourself or have you just listened to the > nonsense some self-proclaimed 'experts' have given you? > > I have never found 'Food Grade' and therefore never used it. A > natural substance, ground up and bagged, had no serious contaminants. > You appear to be a 'sheeple' who believes that the Feds have all the > answers to your problems. That is what "food grade' really is - a > federal scam. > > I have never paid the exhorbitant sums they ask for the pool filter > DE but I have checked the bags/boxes and they are the same as the feed > store variety. Those that have used the pool filter source have > reported that there were no clumps or anything else different from what > I showed them in my bag. > > Bill Keen [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Shelli, That is what I have used exclusively for many years now. I do not use it often in my food and never more than a tablespoon at a time mixed in well. I use it for roaches and around the house for any/all insects. It is the easiest and best flea killer that I have found. 20 lbs of DE would be in a sack the size of 50lbs of corn or horse feed. My 8 lb sacks are the size of 20lbs of anything else. This and boric acid should eliminate all insects in the house. Place the boric acid around the baseboards and in the cabinets to kill roaches. It is supposedly the prime ingredient in the Roach Hotels. Bill Keen Shelli wrote: So the feedstore variety should be ok for human consumption, shouldn't it? Shelli - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse >I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used > internally for humans or animals. > I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat > treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so > I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill > earthworms and bees as well as slugs. > sol > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Parasite Cleanse
Hi Bill, I got food grade DE here at this site. http://store.yahoo.com/herbal-remedies-usa/diead6oz.html Take care, V > Sol, > > Apparently, with exo-skeleton insects it cuts the cartilage which > prevents movement and they starve to death. I'm not sure how it would > affect earthworms. I guess if they had worms it would cleanse them too. Ha > Ha. > > I have never found 'grading' on any DE. > > Bill Keen > sol wrote: > I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used > internally for humans or animals. > I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat > treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so > I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill > earthworms and bees as well as slugs. > sol > Bill Keen wrote: -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
