Re: CS>Members who use COMCAST.NET...

[M. G. Devour]

Dan writes:
> Yes Mike, I am getting only your messages. They must have tried to do
> something but not implemented it properly. 

Actually, it turns out to be a peculiarity of the eskimo mail system. 
Robert at eskimo confirmed to me that messages of eskimo customers to 
eskimo hosted lists go out via the other server, which Comcast is not 
blocking.

Just one more wrinkle in a complicated and not very hopeful situation!

Thanks to all who answered my e-mail. It cleared up that question at 
least!

Be well,

Mike D.

> M. G. Devour wrote:
> > Hi folks. 
> > 
> > This is an experiment based on a report from one of our members who
> > uses Comcast. She's been getting *MY* messages to the list but not
> > anybody else's. I'd like to confirm that, if possible.
> > 
> > If you're mail address ends in @comcast.net or any near variant,
> > please post to my personal address, mdev...@eskimo.com and tell me
> > that you received this.
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> > Curiouser and curiouser!

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Re: CS>Kidney Infections

[M. G. Devour]

Excellent news, Del, and nice report. 

A family member uses oral CS to keep recurrent bladder infections under 
control from daily catheterization to void the bladder. It does work.

Be well,

Mike D.

> We just had a scare with our two year old twin grandchildren because of
> a severe E-Coli infection.  This can be fatal to small children because
> it can cause renal failure.  The doctors offered no help, said there was
> no antibiotic for it, just wait and hope.  Meanwhile, in the news, a
> child in Albany died from it.  So my daughter was scared out of her
> mind.
> 
> We treated them with colloidal silver around the clock, and also with
> d-mannose in a formulation called Clear Tract which is specifically
> recommended for kidney and bladder infections, and is especially
> effective against e-coli infections of same.  End result is that both
> kids are fine now two and a half weeks later.
> 
> Having the right knowledge can save lives!
> 
> Del

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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Acmeair]

may i ask where you get bulk cayenne at 130,000 hu?  thank you,jim

Staya Udanvti Bob Butler wrote:


Osiyo Marshalee!
Hello Marshalee!
 
I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of 
cayenne tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some 
stinging from the cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? 
lemon juice will remove it, but take care on where you put in on and 
how much will run down.  If you need to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is 
great to start out with.
I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy 
bulk by the pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it 
is scarce and costly.
 
Love

Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti
 




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[bbonejr]

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Re: CS>Cayenne tincture

[tom chick]

Teetercreek Cayenne is great. Have been using it for a couple of years. Great 
people too. Tom

CS>ovarian cysts

[Deborah Gerard]

My daughter who is 26, last week had a ovarian cysts rupture...can anyone 
comment on this as to why they happen and how to prevent them from happening 
again?thanks debbie

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Re: CS>Cayenne tincture

[Deborah Gerard]

I have ordered Lobelia tincture from Teetercreek and they are good people to 
deal with debbie

Hannah  wrote:  For those who can't see themselves 'brew' 
cayenne tincture at home, 
a place to buy this in a quality I have not come across before, and 
not after since I have been using theirs, 
is http://www.teetercreekherbs.com/. Potent stuff , reasonably 
priced. I wouldn't be without it.
Also can be ordered 
from http://secure.springvalleyherbs.com/catalog.php?itemID=1950

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 Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

CS>David

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi Dave been having trouble with my server and was wondering if you got the 
message about me wanting the paper on Rife with the Computer...thanks debbie

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CS>Blotchy Skin

[Pat]

"curious if you are using or have recently used any
type of skin exfoiliator. Any type of product with
retinol also will cause the skin to become more
sensitive  to sun and even without sun, can cause
brown spots to resurface."

No, the only thing I use is virgin coconut oil, or
occassionally a five oil blend in the shower. No
buffing or scrubbing. Nothing different at all except
CS in quantity, and several nutritional supplements
started in January.

Pat

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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

Sore KneeDMSO can result in deep itching the next day.  i mix it with aloe or 
apply aloe afterwards.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Staya Udanvti Bob Butler 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 4:29 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee


  Osiyo Marshalee!
  Hello Marshalee!

  I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of cayenne 
tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some stinging from the 
cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? lemon juice will remove it, 
but take care on where you put in on and how much will run down.  If you need 
to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is great to start out with.
  I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy bulk by 
the pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it is scarce and 
costly.

  Love
  Bob
  Adageyudi
  Staya Udanvti



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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

I know a man who tried acupuncture for a sore knee
tendon.  He said it immediately relieved the
pain...but the relief only lasted one day.  He
returned for another session, said he got complete
relief, but it too lasted only one day.  So he's never
tried it again.



VMANN:  what was wrong with the knee?
knee pain is one of the easiest things for acupuncture to treat.
vigilius haufniensis
took away my neck pain in one hour.  blinding pain i had for 6 months. 
never came back. 



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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

Sore KneeAcupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. 
I`m on SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though!
Marshalee

www.acufinder.com


VMANN:  whats wrong with the feet?
vigilius haufniensis

CS>skin to pat

[zeb caffe]

Pat, just curious if you are using or have recently used any type of skin 
exfoiliator. Any type of product with retinol also will cause the skin to 
become more sensitive  to sun and even without sun, can cause brown spots to 
resurface. 

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CS>"Three Years of HCL Therapy"

[Dan Nave]

(This is in response to Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee but I am changing the subject in case anyone 
decides to respond the issue of HCl and potassium therapy.)



I'm certainly no expert on this but I wonder if this problem might not be related to some sort of 
electrolyte imbalance.


I just read something that was very interesting and might relate to this condition.  It came from a 
document called "Three Years of HCL Therapy" which was written in 1935.  Download at:


http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_hclstudy.php

One short quote from this noted below...

"Dr. Guy formulated a theory that most disease conditions, acute
infections, anemias, metabolic disturbances and malignant cell
overgrowths are direct results of changes in the hydrogen-ion content
of the lymph of the body which produces blockage of the lymph
channels. In his studies of the growth of corn and other forms of
vegetable life he had been able to demonstrate that the absence of
sufficient potassium salts in the soil would result in stunted growth,
and evidence of precipitation of minute particles of iron and other
substances in the stalks. When potassium was added, the growth
procceeded normally; when dilute hydrochloric acid was also added,
the growth was further stimulated. He studied the lymph of a large
number of patients suffering from carcinoma, and found that these
cases showed a hydrogen-ion much higher than normal individuals.
He also found that by administering the salts of potassium in combination
with dilute hydrochloric acid, either orally or by the intravenous
route, these patients made remarkable clinical improvement and the
hydrogen-ion content of their lymph became normal.. The publication
of his series of articles in the THE MEDICAL WORLD was followed
by a large number of case reports by participating physicians who
greeted the new therapeutic procedure with great enthusiasm. Dr. Guy
published his first book on this subject in 1934, and a revision in 1935."

(I would particularly like to see if our resident pharmacist, Richard Harris, would read this and 
interpret the formula referred to in the text.  There is a small concentration of Fowler's solution 
which may not be appropriate, but that could be left out.  There are some variations of the formula 
and notation further on in the text also.)


Dan


Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee



"M. G. Devour"  wrote:  
Dear Marshalee,


You write:


Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on
them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the
tramp... sigh.


You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one
of the best exercise options you have with your current issues.



Be well,

Mike D.



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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[V]

Yes the rebounder will do its job with even very gentle bouncing where 
you dont even leave the mat.
What it does is activate the lymph system which pumps lymph using a 
bunch of check-valves and the up and down motion compresses the vales 
and lymph so they open and close and the lymph moves along the lymph 
vessels. there are more lymph vessels in the body than blood vessels and 
parallel the blood vessels everywhere and then some. So the gravity 
fluctuation of bouncing is what makes them work. We humans are running 
animals and when you run your body bounces up and down. people that move 
very little, which is most of us, then have very slow moving lymph. If 
the lymph moves very fast you get almost instant healing. Our sedentary 
lifestyle is what brings on all the disease.

V

Dan Nave wrote:

This sounds silly, but be careful about using a rebounder...

An older person I know compressed his vertebrae using one.

I believe I developed a mild case of plantars fasciitis by really
overdoing it with bare feet.

Go slowly and reasonably gently.

Dan



M. G. Devour wrote:

Deborah writes:


How about one from ebay maybe?



I browsed on e-bay for a while before I finally popped for my non-
folding reboundair model direct from the manufacturer. I could never 
quite satisfy myself that the quality of construction on the various 
copies would be good enough.


A reboundair or needak from a private party would come up so rarely  
that I just didn't want the hassle of waiting, and the selling prices 
were not much better than the frequent 'sale' prices.


I'm still over 200 pounds but I don't feel like the reboundair even 
notices me!  Good unit.




"M. G. Devour"  wrote:  Dear Marshalee,

You write:


Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on
them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the
tramp... sigh.


You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one
of the best exercise options you have with your current issues.



Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Dan Nave]

This sounds silly, but be careful about using a rebounder...

An older person I know compressed his vertebrae using one.

I believe I developed a mild case of plantars fasciitis by really
overdoing it with bare feet.

Go slowly and reasonably gently.

Dan



M. G. Devour wrote:

Deborah writes:


How about one from ebay maybe?



I browsed on e-bay for a while before I finally popped for my non-
folding reboundair model direct from the manufacturer. I could never 
quite satisfy myself that the quality of construction on the various 
copies would be good enough.


A reboundair or needak from a private party would come up so rarely  
that I just didn't want the hassle of waiting, and the selling prices 
were not much better than the frequent 'sale' prices.


I'm still over 200 pounds but I don't feel like the reboundair even 
notices me!  Good unit.



"M. G. Devour"  wrote:  
Dear Marshalee,


You write:


Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on
them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the
tramp... sigh.


You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one
of the best exercise options you have with your current issues.



Be well,

Mike D.
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CS>Cayenne tincture

[Hannah]

For those who can't see themselves  'brew'  cayenne tincture at home, 
a place to buy this in a quality I have not come across before, and 
not after since I have been using theirs, 
is  http://www.teetercreekherbs.com/.   Potent stuff , reasonably 
priced.  I wouldn't be without it.
Also can be ordered 
from  http://secure.springvalleyherbs.com/catalog.php?itemID=1950


Hanneke ~ Australia


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RE: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Ed Kasper]

As an after thought

after chopping peppers, etc be careful with where your
fingers go,

The best antidotes to any burning are dairy products such as
milk, yoghurt and ice cream.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Staya Udanvti Bob Butler]

Sore KneeOsiyo Marshalee!
Hello Marshalee!

I have had two joint replacements and I use a 50%/50% mixture of cayenne 
tincture and DMSO I put in a roll-on bottle. I do get some stinging from the 
cayenne but the relief is greater. Too much heat? lemon juice will remove it, 
but take care on where you put in on and how much will run down.  If you need 
to adjust the mix 30/70% DMSO is great to start out with.
I make my own tincture from 130,000 HU cayenne pepper powder (I buy bulk by the 
pound) and 80 proof vodka. I would prefer 100 proof but it is scarce and costly.

Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti

Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Lavilin

[toreadpeoplehealthinfo]

There is a german baby buns lotion called "bebe" that my mom has been using as 
deodorant/antiperspirant for decades.  I never knew why it worked so well until 
I read these few posts from y'all and ran to my toiletries cabinet to check and 
sure enough !  First ingredient listed is Zink !

What about the safety of using this considering the safe upper limits being 
stated to be only 15mg/per day.

What do you all think?  How great is the risk of Copper depletion/blocking due 
to high/higher Zink intake?   I'm sure y'all have considered this carefully.  
Just wondering how you determined it was safe?


Thanks,
Angel


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Gulenchin 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:59 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Lavilin


  Hi,
  I have been using a product called lavilin for years, and it works just as 
you describe how your Z.O. ointment works, Julie. During the winter months it 
could last for between 2-3 weeks but during heavy prespiration in the summer I 
have to apply it every 2-3 days.Lavilin Arm Deodorant, 12.5 grams
  What brand of ointment do you buy and where can one get it? I never thought 
of trying a plain zinc oxide ointment but it should be cheaper than the 
"lavilin" thats sold specificly for underarm use.
  Dennis

  julie martin wrote:

our family uses zinc oxide ointment in place of
commercial deodorants. after a shower we dry, spritz
with cs and then apply a thin layer of the zinc.

Re: CS>Members who use COMCAST.NET...

[Dan Nave]

Yes Mike, I am getting only your messages.
They must have tried to do something but not implemented it properly.

Dan



M. G. Devour wrote:
Hi folks. 

This is an experiment based on a report from one of our members who 
uses Comcast. She's been getting *MY* messages to the list but not 
anybody else's. I'd like to confirm that, if possible.


If you're mail address ends in @comcast.net or any near variant, 
please post to my personal address, mdev...@eskimo.com and tell me that 
you received this.


Curiouser and curiouser!

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Staya Udanvti Bob Butler]

Osiyo Teri!
Hello Teri!

Grind/chop the seeds and whole pepper together. The capsaicin resides in the 
veins and seeds.


Love
Bob
Adageyudi
Staya Udanvti


- Original Message - 
From: "Teri Johnston" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods


Since I have 20 Habenaro plants, 6 cayenne, and 1 Caribbean red I have 
plenty to make a tincture. My question is do you leave the seeds in when 
you grind in the blender???


TIA
Teri


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RE: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Ed Kasper]

The Dispensatory of the United States of America.
Tinctura Capsici Concentrata is prepared by macerating 4
ounces of capsicum in 12 fluid ounces of rectified spirit
for 7 days; then filter.

King's American Dispensatory
A preparation made by adding 1/2 ounce of powdered capsicum
and 2 drachms of salt, to 1/2 pint each, of vinegar and
water

CLINICAL HERB MANUAL by MICHAEL MOORE
Capsicum (all)  Pods  (Cayenne)  1:5, 95% alcohol

Vinegar (in the form of acetic acid) is a classic and
respected solvent. Salt is often added to foods to retard
spoilage. Cayenne has a respectable percentage of oils which
may act as a preservative as well.

I have never seen cayenne spoil. Tabasco Sauce (vinegar +
salt) I have never seen mold on although I have seen the
color turn brownish from age.
I believe cayenne may be light sensitive.

You could also tincture in cayenne in Jack Daniels

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.

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From: laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net
[mailto:laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 1:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods


Thanks Ed for the information on how to prepare cayenne.
I'd appreciate
hearing about the options using vinegar and water/salt for
tincturing.
I'm hoping a couple of non-alcohol quarts of such tincture
could be kept
in the fridge to prevent spoilage.

DByron



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CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[laquerencia33]

Thanks Ed for the information on how to prepare cayenne.  I'd appreciate  
hearing about the options using vinegar and water/salt for tincturing.   
I'm hoping a couple of non-alcohol quarts of such tincture could be kept  
in the fridge to prevent spoilage.


DByron



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RE: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Ed Kasper]

You may have spoiled your peppers by attempting to dry them.
Need to keep the peppers from touching each other, or
anything else. Air needs to circulate to remove the
moisture. Low heat (95-100F, not in direct sunlight) is
preferred over high heat as the outside may dry but the
inside still contain moisture and eventually get mold on the
inside. Hanging peppers or threading them with string. Just
the heat from a oven's pilot light (gas) is all that is
needed. Plus a few days. The dried pepper should be
thoroughly dried.  Should be crisp and brittle.

You can tincture fresh cayenne. Fresh herbs are usually
tinctured at a 1:2 ratio. (dried herbs at 1:5) where one
part herb :equals 2 parts solvent
There are different opinions on using  alcohol, vinegar or
water and salt on preparing cayenne.  But drying cayenne or
other peppers have the same standard and procedure.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
 Santa Cruz, CA.



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From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 5:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods


Thanks to Dan, Kasper,
 and Everyone of the ideas on Cayenne

>  Why is everyone so against a little alcohol?  A little
alcohol is good
>for you.  Cayenne tincture should be made with alcohol. You
can make it
>yourself with 80 proof vodka and cayenne or fresh (hot)
peppers.

The Everclear I had in stock was 180 proof ( 85 % ). I
had to purchase
one more bottle, $ 15.00 per fifth.  All they had was 180
proof.

In July  a few friends picked all their excess peppers and
gave them to
me.   I placed them in a greenhouse in metal pans for about
10 days.   The
idea was they would grind or chop better if dry.

I chopped the complete batch.  They were still too moist and
sticky to
grind into a powder or very small particles.

I simply placed this into pint jars and covered with
Everclear.
The jars were about 65 to 70 % full so I covered with the
Everclear.

A few days later the pepper material had swollen up a bit so
I made another
pint jar for a total of 4.  About then I read something
about 50 % alcohol
so I added about 2 ounces of distilled water instead of more
Everclear.

I also read brew times that ranged from 15 days to 60 days.
More confusion.  I also talked to a few people that has made
the Tincture
and got different data.

I left the jars on the cabinet and did in fact shake them
several times per
day.

After near 30 days, I did not detect the strength I wanted.
At this time, I
added 1 heaping TBS of Cayenne Powder to each jar.

At a later date, about 45 days, I still did not detect the
strength of the
bought Tincture so I added another heaping TBS of Cayenne
powder.

The total time is approaching 60 days now.  The strength is
getting better.

In the absence of an instrumentation test, I add a specific
number of drops
to 4 ounces of water and compare the taste and heat to the
bought Tincture.

The taste of the tincture I am making is not as strong in
flavor as the
purchased Tincture, but the heat and bite is getting close.

I am thinking of straining and bottling one pint after 60
days and may
leave the other 3 pints another few weeks.

I still feel my alcohol per cent is a bit high even after
adding a few
ounces of distilled water.

I may have done a few things differently if we had this
thread two months ago.

The cost of the Health Food Store Tincture is about $ 120.00
per
gallon.  The cost of the home brew Tincture is about  $ 6.00
per pint,
mostly the cost of Everclear.

Any ideas, suggestions, or criticism are welcome.
Next time, I may use all cayenne powder.  It is very
reasonably priced.

Wayne











>   If
>fresh peppers, cut them up and put in blender container,
fill empty
>space with vodka and blend (just enough vodka to cover).
Put in a jar
>and shake up every day for a week or so and then strain.
You can do the
>same thing with the ground dried cayenne but you may need
to use a
>different gage for filling with alcohol (add vodka to cover
and go above
>the cayenne by one third of the volume for example, I mean
add more
>vodka).  Make it strong.  Just don't be drinking more than
a couple of
>droppers full at a time, or more than a shot...  ;-))
>
>One MD (David Williams) is recommending drinking one or two
cups of
>Irish coffee at the first sign of a heart attack...
>
>Richard Schulze (I think it was) recounts a story of an
herbalist
>throwing a pinch of cayenne in his own eye at the start of
a lecture to
>prove that cayenne wouldn't harm the eye.  It didn't.  With
this in mind
>and some experience using lesser doses of cayenne in an
eyewash I
>decided to test the theory.  I threw a large pinch of
cayenne into my
>eye.  I really wished I hadn't for about 20 minutes, it
really hurt.
>After that the eye was perfectly fine.
>
>Half vinegar and half alcohol is used to make a tincture of
lobelia.
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbe

RE: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Ed Kasper]

Can a tech who operates a gas chromatograph qualify as an
expert in medicinal herbs because he or she can tell you how
the ppm of compound X in this or that herb sample that
crosses the lab  bench?

For example in markers and standardization of extracts.
Biochemical "markers" are required for pharmaceutical
extractions of single herbs and formulas. You absolutely do
not care what those compounds do pharmacologically or
physiologically.  They are "markers", not active
ingredients, by definition. You do a chemical assay and
project the three dimensional peaks onto your computer
screen.  You need three dimensional peaks to see if the
peaks are clean and without other internal peaks in the
topography.  You look for overall consistency in the
relative amplitudes of the peaks to assure yourself that
this current batch of extract has been carried out in the
same manner as all of the previous batches.  There is no
biological assay or clinical assay involved in any of this.
The company will simply identify what is the most
appropriate for them, in means of production. For example
hypericum (the marker associated with hypercium) in the herb
St John's Wort was "identified" as "the ingredient". The
commercial interests created value by percentage of those
markers. Concentrated and standardized to those markers,
people in Europe who were prescribed this phyto-drug by
allopathic medical doctors became sick and then tried to
ban the natural herb St John's Wort as dangerous. Same as Ma
Huang (ephedrine) and a host of other phyto-drugs.

My answer is do what you do. mix and tincture the herbs as
you outlined below. The overall effectiveness may vary
season to season. Maybe need a little bit more or a little
bit less, but the safety and effectiveness will be known,
this knowledge can be passed on, and we can learn from our
experience.

just my 2 cents
Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@fugitt.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods


Morning Teri,

 >> At 08:13 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>Since I have 20 Habenaro plants, 6 cayenne, and 1 Caribbean
red I have
>plenty to make a tincture. My question is do you leave the
seeds in when
>you grind in the blender???

Yes, I used the seeds, core, and even the stem ends on
some.
Others where the stem and end looked a bit abnormal, these
were cut off.

The amazing thing about the hot peppers is the tissue thin
walls, when
compared with Bell and Banana peppers.  Strange indeed.

I would mix the peppers if I had the variety.

Without any scientific basis, I think there are some
ingredients in peppers
that are good, other than the heat and the part that burns.

Would like to see a chemical breakdown on peppers, if anyone
has any
information or links to this.

I have always been a bit skeptical on most herbs because I
feel they have
been inadequately studied.   Plus they are grown around the
world in many
soil types and a variety of conditions, drought, heavy
rainfall, low sun,
high sunlight, and you name it as to the growing conditions.
Heavy
rainfall will result in lower concentration of nutrients,
flavors, and
minerals.   Low water makes greater concentrations.   Poor
nutrients in the
soil has its effects also.

Where does this leave us?   Guessing as to quality.

Wayne



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Re: CS>Sore Knee +Traumeel

[Gertrude]

TRAUMEEL (from the firm: HEEL)

Arnica D2, Calendula D2, Hamamelis D2, Millefolium D3, Belladonna D4, Aconitum 
D3, Mercurius D8, Hepar sulfuris D5, Chamomilla D3, Symphytum D3, Echinacea D2, 
Hypericum D2.

I like the products of : Heel.

Trudy



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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee


  Hi Del:

  Great Observations.  It's not your imagination, the internal homeopathic 
tincture doesn't work very well.  

  The Traumeel ointment is lightyears better than anything else I've personally 
tested.

  It's one of the VERY few homeopathic remedies that I've found which actually 
works.

  Kind Regards,

  Jason


- Original Message - 
From: d...@altsystem.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee


For relief of pain and and for its anti-inflammatory effects, I use 
Traumeel homeopathic ointment.  Very effective.  Rub it in good and liberally 
three times a day.  No known side effects, very safe, and far more effective 
than anything else I have found.  I did not have similar success with the 
Traumeel liquid that is taken internally.  I may have had a slight allergic 
reaction to the internal stuff, but no reaction to external application of the 
ointment.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:13 PM
  Subject: CS>Sore Knee


  Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
  I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the 
middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt 
my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
  This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
  I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
  Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain 
isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas??
  Marshalee





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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Jason]

Hi Del:

Great Observations.  It's not your imagination, the internal homeopathic 
tincture doesn't work very well.  

The Traumeel ointment is lightyears better than anything else I've personally 
tested.

It's one of the VERY few homeopathic remedies that I've found which actually 
works.

Kind Regards,

Jason


  - Original Message - 
  From: d...@altsystem.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee


  For relief of pain and and for its anti-inflammatory effects, I use Traumeel 
homeopathic ointment.  Very effective.  Rub it in good and liberally three 
times a day.  No known side effects, very safe, and far more effective than 
anything else I have found.  I did not have similar success with the Traumeel 
liquid that is taken internally.  I may have had a slight allergic reaction to 
the internal stuff, but no reaction to external application of the ointment.

  Del
- Original Message - 
From: Marshalee Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:13 PM
Subject: CS>Sore Knee


Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the 
middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt 
my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain 
isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas??
Marshalee


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CS>Kidney Infections

[d...@altsystem.com]

We just had a scare with our two year old twin grandchildren because of
a severe E-Coli infection.  This can be fatal to small children because
it can cause renal failure.  The doctors offered no help, said there was
no antibiotic for it, just wait and hope.  Meanwhile, in the news, a
child in Albany died from it.  So my daughter was scared out of her
mind.

We treated them with colloidal silver around the clock, and also with
d-mannose in a formulation called Clear Tract which is specifically
recommended for kidney and bladder infections, and is especially
effective against e-coli infections of same.  End result is that both
kids are fine now two and a half weeks later.

Having the right knowledge can save lives!

Del

- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Staph infection


I just asked about a kind of kidney disease on this list, and then read
this post.  Interestingly, staph infection may be related to the kidney
disease in some cases, including in infants.   Bottom line:  these
infections are serious, and had better be monitored by a professional.
This does NOT mean not using EIS, but rather, being sure the EIS is
working.  An infant can't tell you anything . . .

JBB


On Tuesday, Jul 11, 2006, at 11:13 Asia/Tokyo, Terry Chamberlin wrote:

> If I had a baby with staph infection, I would give the
> baby small amounts of CS (1/2 - 1 tsp) every 2 hours.
> I know it has helped adults, but I have no first-hand
> knowledge with infants.
>
> I would have no fear that it would hurt the baby in
> any way. My oldest daughter gave her son CS every day
> since birth.
>
> Terry Chamberlin
>
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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[d...@altsystem.com]

For relief of pain and and for its anti-inflammatory effects, I use Traumeel 
homeopathic ointment.  Very effective.  Rub it in good and liberally three 
times a day.  No known side effects, very safe, and far more effective than 
anything else I have found.  I did not have similar success with the Traumeel 
liquid that is taken internally.  I may have had a slight allergic reaction to 
the internal stuff, but no reaction to external application of the ointment.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 11:13 PM
  Subject: CS>Sore Knee


  Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
  I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle 
of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my 
wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
  This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
  I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
  Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t 
deep in the joint. Ideas??
  Marshalee

Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Teri Johnston]

At 10:27 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:



I would mix the peppers if I had the variety.


I forgot that I also have a  hot lemon pepper plant also so could 
combine all of these.  Sure should be hot :-)



Without any scientific basis, I think there are some ingredients in 
peppers that are good, other than the heat and the part that burns.


They are loaded with Vit C, and antioxidants like beta carotene

I have always been a bit skeptical on most herbs because I feel they 
have been inadequately studied.   Plus they are grown around the 
world in many soil types and a variety of conditions, drought, heavy 
rainfall, low sun, high sunlight, and you name it as to the growing 
conditions.   Heavy rainfall will result in lower concentration of 
nutrients, flavors, and minerals.   Low water makes greater 
concentrations.   Poor nutrients in the soil has its effects also.


I grow many of my own medicinal herbs so know the soil they are grown 
in.It is hard to determine the quality when you buy, but when I 
do I purchase from a reputable organic herb company myself.  Herbs 
have century long use by many people which is better than any 
clinical trials the drug companies use.  It is seldom you hear of 
someone dying from ingesting herbs compared to pharmaceuticals.


Teri
who is sipping a hot cup of habanaro and spearmint tea.  



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CS>Splotchy skin

[Pat]

This spring, with sun exposure, the area of my arms
normally covered by short sleeves became
blotchy...dark tan melanin spots with the space in
between being the original color.  The last month, the
blotchy area has occured between the wrist and 1/2 way
up to the elbow.  Before all this, I did have very
faint freckling on the tops of my hands, but the only
other place is one spot on my cheekbone that I've had
since my first pregnancy. I've had very little sun
exposure this year.  I am wondering if any of the new
supplements I've started since January could have
caused this.  Does anyone else have this skin problem?
 Pat

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CS>message sequence

[M. G. Devour]

Pat writes:
> MikeI wonder if it's the same for everyone...when
> you post, it shows up about 10 emails down from the
> last received.  If I haven't read them all, often I
> read your response before I read the emails you're
> responding to.  Doesn't matter, I'm used to it, and
> you're very good at making it clear what you're
> answering.  Just curious.

I've noticed that, too, Pat. It may have something to do with the fact 
that I'm posting from an Eskimo address, and live in a time zone 3 
hours earlier than the pacific northwest where Eskimo is. The system 
time stamp for the message may get jiggered somewhere in the process. 


I am pretty careful to edit mails for size and context. I always try to 
assume people will be reading my message in isolation. Glad it works.

Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Pat]

MikeI wonder if it's the same for everyone...when
you post, it shows up about 10 emails down from the
last received.  If I haven't read them all, often I
read your response before I read the emails you're
responding to.  Doesn't matter, I'm used to it, and
you're very good at making it clear what you're
answering.  Just curious.

   Pat



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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[M. G. Devour]

Sasha wrote:
> The first url will take you to an ebay full page of Needak Rebounders,
> and the second url will take you to an ebay dealer that sells Needak for
> $176, has 100% acceptance from 4200 sales. That's not bad. You can't
> beat the price, but you might have to order a holding bar. Many people
> simply place the rebounder by a tall-backed chair and hold on to the top
> of the chair while they lightly bounce. Works just as well like that
> without the bar. 

> http://tinyurl.com/l25jc 
> http://tinyurl.com/ha5bg 

I stand corrected. The needaks are available at e-bay! I guess I'd 
pretty much decided I liked the reboundair and they are not to be found 
on e-bay.

In any case, go with quality.

Be well,

Mike D.

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CS>Sore Knee

[SMax]

 
Marshalee, 
ebay has Needak rebounders for sale. Needak is one of the very best
rebounders you can buy. You don't want a cheap one from a sporting goods
store (trust me) as they will break your ankle and foot bones down and
absolutely will not support the weight. 
You can get a Needak for $199 or as low as $176. 
 
The first url will take you to an ebay full page of Needak Rebounders, and
the second url will take you to an ebay dealer that sells Needak for $176,
has 100% acceptance from 4200 sales. That's not bad. You can't beat the
price, but you might have to order a holding bar. Many people simply place
the rebounder by a tall-backed chair and hold on to the top of the chair
while they lightly bounce. Works just as well like that without the bar. 
http://tinyurl.com/l25jc 
http://tinyurl.com/ha5bg 
 
P.S. You might want to google a Sun Ancon Chi Machine which would work your
lymphatics without you having to do anything except lay on the floor. Check
those out on ebay to see if they have any. But only go for a Sun Ancon which
is the original and best for the money. All others have a reputation of
breaking down. 
Sasha 
 
 
From: M. G. Devour 
 
Dear Marshalee, 
 
You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one 
of the best exercise options you have with your current issues. 
 
For one example, the Reboundair quarter fold costs about $300. It's 
guaranteed for users up to 400 pounds. Buy the stabilizer bar with it 
and you'll have something to hang onto while you get your sea legs. 
 
See: http://www.ultimate-rebound.com/ 
 
 


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CS>Members who use COMCAST.NET...

[M. G. Devour]

Hi folks. 

This is an experiment based on a report from one of our members who 
uses Comcast. She's been getting *MY* messages to the list but not 
anybody else's. I'd like to confirm that, if possible.

If you're mail address ends in @comcast.net or any near variant, 
please post to my personal address, mdev...@eskimo.com and tell me that 
you received this.

Curiouser and curiouser!

Be well,

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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Carl Deb Charter]

Do you have a "baker's cyst"?

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bakers-cyst/DS00448


- Original Message - 
From: "Marshalee Hallett" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee




I agree, Pat.
My own backyard pool in Phoenix is what kept me alive when I was in active
Lyme, from `91 to `95.
We have no YMCA here, but there is a city pool with a class at noon.
I have a suit, but I just haven`t found a round tuit.
Maybe Monday... :o)
Marshalee



I think water aerobics is the best choice of exercise
for overweight people or anyone who is older and
shouldn't be stressing their joints.  It's fun too.
The cost of joining the YMCA is around $50 a month,
but they have discount rates for lower income people.
I know overweight women just hate to be seen in public
in a swim suit, but many are very overweight in the
older group and no one really notices or cares. You
get right into the water and nothing shows but your
neck and head. You can get a suit at low cost at Ross
or some other discount store, or order one with a
little skirt.  Vigorous movement in the water will
make you feel so much stronger and better.  Many say
their joints feel much better on the days they
exercise.
  Pat





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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[M. G. Devour]

Deborah writes:
> How about one from ebay maybe?

I browsed on e-bay for a while before I finally popped for my non-
folding reboundair model direct from the manufacturer. I could never 
quite satisfy myself that the quality of construction on the various 
copies would be good enough.

A reboundair or needak from a private party would come up so rarely  
that I just didn't want the hassle of waiting, and the selling prices 
were not much better than the frequent 'sale' prices.

I'm still over 200 pounds but I don't feel like the reboundair even 
notices me!  Good unit.

> "M. G. Devour"  wrote:  
> Dear Marshalee,
> 
> You write:
> > Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on
> > them boggles my mind! Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the
> > tramp... sigh.
> 
> You'd need to buy a really *good* one, but a rebounder is probably one
> of the best exercise options you have with your current issues.

Be well,

Mike D.
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RE: CS>Sore Knee

[Richard Harris]

Sore KneeHi Marshalee,
I suggest you go to Dr. Mercola Site:  mercola.com and sign in with your
e-mail--He is very generous with his Free Newsletter (largest in the world,
I believe). He has a wonderful book & lots of good recipes on Site and a
Diet: "The No Grain diet" which can help you effectively lose weight, IF you
follow his simple directions and leave sugar and most grains from your diet.
It's NOT magic, but requires you to be a good patient and good to yourself.
You get to eat lots of good food, and still lose weight.
Best regards,
___
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448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
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  -Original Message-
  From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@izikoo.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:07 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Sore Knee



Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on
them boggles my mind!
Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp...
sigh.
Marshalee

Hi,

I understand jumping on a small trampoline will help with lymph
drainage.


  Jean

  

Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Pat]

I know a man who tried acupuncture for a sore knee
tendon.  He said it immediately relieved the
pain...but the relief only lasted one day.  He
returned for another session, said he got complete
relief, but it too lasted only one day.  So he's never
tried it again.

Pat


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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Marshalee Hallett]

I agree, Pat.
My own backyard pool in Phoenix is what kept me alive when I was in active
Lyme, from `91 to `95.
We have no YMCA here, but there is a city pool with a class at noon.
I have a suit, but I just haven`t found a round tuit.
Maybe Monday... :o)
Marshalee


> I think water aerobics is the best choice of exercise
> for overweight people or anyone who is older and
> shouldn't be stressing their joints.  It's fun too.
> The cost of joining the YMCA is around $50 a month,
> but they have discount rates for lower income people.
> I know overweight women just hate to be seen in public
> in a swim suit, but many are very overweight in the
> older group and no one really notices or cares. You
> get right into the water and nothing shows but your
> neck and head. You can get a suit at low cost at Ross
> or some other discount store, or order one with a
> little skirt.  Vigorous movement in the water will
> make you feel so much stronger and better.  Many say
> their joints feel much better on the days they
> exercise.
>   Pat
>



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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Marshalee Hallett]

  I spent more than 2K for a bed which raises and lowers, (and that was a cheap 
one!) It is comfy as all getout, but it doesn`t help the feet at all. 
  I still wake up with puffy feet! I call them "stuffed-up", `cause that is 
what they feel like: my nose when I have a cold!
  Arrggh!
  Marshalee
  PS, I have tried several modes of massage therapy, acupuncture, the bed, 
various shoes and lack thereof, and vitamins, nothin helps. 
  I guess I`ll try the rebounder...

  One more thougth Marshalee is raising the head of your bed four or five 
inches helps drain the lymphs too.debbie

Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Marshalee Hallett]

Sore Knee
  Acupuncture never helped the feet, and I can`t afford it for my knee. I`m on 
SSI, and Medicaid won`t pay for it.Thanks for the suggestion, though!
  Marshalee

  www.acufinder.com


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From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:41 PM
Subject: CS>Sore Knee


Hi,

If I could stand up, knowing that a mini trampoline might help my lymph 
problems, then I would clamber up and try.  Other people say even a slight 
bouncing, not even off the trampoline, will help lymph drainage.  Also, I would 
consider the alternatives.  But, those are just my thoughts.

Jean

**


Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of ibouncing on 
them boggles my mind! 
Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp...
sigh.
Marshalee






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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Pat]

I think water aerobics is the best choice of exercise
for overweight people or anyone who is older and
shouldn't be stressing their joints.  It's fun too. 
The cost of joining the YMCA is around $50 a month,
but they have discount rates for lower income people. 
I know overweight women just hate to be seen in public
in a swim suit, but many are very overweight in the
older group and no one really notices or cares. You
get right into the water and nothing shows but your
neck and head. You can get a suit at low cost at Ross
or some other discount store, or order one with a
little skirt.  Vigorous movement in the water will
make you feel so much stronger and better.  Many say
their joints feel much better on the days they
exercise.
  Pat


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Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Teri,

>> At 08:13 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
Since I have 20 Habenaro plants, 6 cayenne, and 1 Caribbean red I have 
plenty to make a tincture. My question is do you leave the seeds in when 
you grind in the blender???


   Yes, I used the seeds, core, and even the stem ends on some.
Others where the stem and end looked a bit abnormal, these were cut off.

The amazing thing about the hot peppers is the tissue thin walls, when 
compared with Bell and Banana peppers.  Strange indeed.


I would mix the peppers if I had the variety.

Without any scientific basis, I think there are some ingredients in peppers 
that are good, other than the heat and the part that burns.


Would like to see a chemical breakdown on peppers, if anyone has any 
information or links to this.


I have always been a bit skeptical on most herbs because I feel they have 
been inadequately studied.   Plus they are grown around the world in many 
soil types and a variety of conditions, drought, heavy rainfall, low sun, 
high sunlight, and you name it as to the growing conditions.   Heavy 
rainfall will result in lower concentration of nutrients, flavors, and 
minerals.   Low water makes greater concentrations.   Poor nutrients in the 
soil has its effects also.


Where does this leave us?   Guessing as to quality.

Wayne



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Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Teri Johnston]

Since I have 20 Habenaro plants, 6 cayenne, and 1 Caribbean red I 
have plenty to make a tincture. My question is do you leave the seeds 
in when you grind in the blender???


TIA
Teri


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CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods

[Wayne Fugitt]

Thanks to Dan, Kasper,
and Everyone of the ideas on Cayenne


 Why is everyone so against a little alcohol?  A little alcohol is good
for you.  Cayenne tincture should be made with alcohol. You can make it 
yourself with 80 proof vodka and cayenne or fresh (hot) peppers.


   The Everclear I had in stock was 180 proof ( 85 % ). I had to purchase 
one more bottle, $ 15.00 per fifth.  All they had was 180 proof.


In July  a few friends picked all their excess peppers and gave them to 
me.   I placed them in a greenhouse in metal pans for about 10 days.   The 
idea was they would grind or chop better if dry.


I chopped the complete batch.  They were still too moist and sticky to 
grind into a powder or very small particles.


I simply placed this into pint jars and covered with Everclear.
The jars were about 65 to 70 % full so I covered with the Everclear.

A few days later the pepper material had swollen up a bit so I made another 
pint jar for a total of 4.  About then I read something about 50 % alcohol 
so I added about 2 ounces of distilled water instead of more Everclear.


I also read brew times that ranged from 15 days to 60 days.
More confusion.  I also talked to a few people that has made the Tincture 
and got different data.


I left the jars on the cabinet and did in fact shake them several times per 
day.


After near 30 days, I did not detect the strength I wanted. At this time, I 
added 1 heaping TBS of Cayenne Powder to each jar.


At a later date, about 45 days, I still did not detect the strength of the 
bought Tincture so I added another heaping TBS of Cayenne powder.


The total time is approaching 60 days now.  The strength is getting better.

In the absence of an instrumentation test, I add a specific number of drops 
to 4 ounces of water and compare the taste and heat to the bought Tincture.


The taste of the tincture I am making is not as strong in flavor as the 
purchased Tincture, but the heat and bite is getting close.


I am thinking of straining and bottling one pint after 60 days and may 
leave the other 3 pints another few weeks.


I still feel my alcohol per cent is a bit high even after adding a few 
ounces of distilled water.


I may have done a few things differently if we had this thread two months ago.

The cost of the Health Food Store Tincture is about $ 120.00 per 
gallon.  The cost of the home brew Tincture is about  $ 6.00 per pint, 
mostly the cost of Everclear.


Any ideas, suggestions, or criticism are welcome.
Next time, I may use all cayenne powder.  It is very reasonably priced.

Wayne












  If
fresh peppers, cut them up and put in blender container, fill empty
space with vodka and blend (just enough vodka to cover).  Put in a jar
and shake up every day for a week or so and then strain.  You can do the
same thing with the ground dried cayenne but you may need to use a
different gage for filling with alcohol (add vodka to cover and go above
the cayenne by one third of the volume for example, I mean add more
vodka).  Make it strong.  Just don't be drinking more than a couple of
droppers full at a time, or more than a shot...  ;-))

One MD (David Williams) is recommending drinking one or two cups of
Irish coffee at the first sign of a heart attack...

Richard Schulze (I think it was) recounts a story of an herbalist
throwing a pinch of cayenne in his own eye at the start of a lecture to
prove that cayenne wouldn't harm the eye.  It didn't.  With this in mind
and some experience using lesser doses of cayenne in an eyewash I
decided to test the theory.  I threw a large pinch of cayenne into my
eye.  I really wished I hadn't for about 20 minutes, it really hurt.
After that the eye was perfectly fine.

Half vinegar and half alcohol is used to make a tincture of lobelia.

Dan



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From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Cayenne

Thanks Julie. I make a cayenne extract with my kombucha distilled
vinegar (2% acetic acid). I use 180,000 HU. It has a tendency to fall
out of suspension and has to be shaken.
Even with the low percentage acetic acid it doe not seem to attract
mold, but long term storage may be a problem.
Tabasco Sauce uses vinegar and vinegar is extremely healthy for you
especially compared to alcohol. I have also made kombucha mushroom tea
using cayenne and comes out really spicy.

Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper.
Lots of peppers are hotter than cayenne - some over 1,000,000 HU, so
IMO, I don't think Tabasco would work. I seem to know a lot of folks who
gobble down really hot peppers daily and they seem to have the same
problems as the rest of people who don't eat hot peppers so cayenne must
have special attributes otherwise Dr Christopher, Shultz, and others
would have used even hotter peppers or simply Tabasco sauce.

One thing I am leery of is the claim that cayenne scan/should be used in
the eyes. I 

Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Why not Lemon?

[Carlos P�rez]

Hello, Julie,

We at our family have always used lemon or lime as underarm deodorant. Since 
we consume several a day, we just take a half of the squeezed fruit and just 
rub it. For us it works perfectly. Simple and free, since it is only 
destined for the waste basket anyway. Has anyone tried it?


No doubt, deodorizing comes in the food we eat. That makes a big difference.

Regards,

Carlos



From: julie martin 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>AG Deodorant-Lavilin
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 21:19:52 -0700 (PDT)

  i go to the local Wal Mart pharmacy area.  they have
a black and white tube "generic" in appearance which
costs less than $2.00. it is usually found on a top
shelf almost out of sight. i was on a trip (don't
remember where) and had forgotten my tube so i stopped
in at the local store, couldn't find it on the shelf
and i asked the pharmacy, they produced a one pound
jar (from behind the counter) - brand name Rugby. i
bought it over a year ago and think it cost about
$5.00.  i still have over half the jar left.  and it
too will last 2-3 weeks for me in the cooler months,
but i live in Texas where temps are regularly over 100
and i spend lot of time working outside so it lasts a
little more than a week. it goes on white and dries
clear.
   i think diet makes a big difference in body odors
and when i eat a lot of onion or garlic i often add
chlorophyll to my drinking water.
julie

--- Dennis Gulenchin  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have been using a product called lavilin for
> years, and it works just
> as you describe how your Z.O. ointment works, Julie.
> During the winter
> months it could last for between 2-3 weeks but
> during heavy prespiration
> in the summer I have to apply it every 2-3
> days.Lavilin Arm Deodorant,
> 12.5 grams
>

> What brand of ointment do you buy and where can one
> get it? I never
> thought of trying a plain zinc oxide ointment but it
> should be cheaper
> than the "lavilin" thats sold specificly for
> underarm use.
> Dennis


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Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Raine]

Tips for improving lymph drainage;

dry skin brushing with a natural brush
massage
hot/cold hydrotherapy to increase circulation, and therefore lymph movement
rebounding on a mini trampoline
cayenne tincture to increase circulation

I used all of these methods when I had Mastitis (breast infection) a few 
months ago. Worked like a charm.


-Raine


Marshalee Hallett wrote:
 


Yup.

Are the lymphs having trouble draining?...deb

*//*

Re: CS>Sore Knee

[Raine]

Marshalee,

You don't have to literally *jump*, you can simply bounce. Gravity is 
very much your friend on this one.


Check with your local Freecycle group and see if you can't get a 
rebounder for free. (That's how I got mine.)


-Raine

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
 


Yeah, but with these painful swollen feet, the thought of
ibouncing on them boggles my mind!
Plus I`m too darn near 300, probably break the tramp...
sigh.
Marshalee

Re: CS>AG Deodorant

[Raine]

I use homemade CS sprayed on, then swipe the armpits with a crystal 
deodorant. This hasn't failed me once, even into the next day.


Should I run out (heaven forbid!) I would fall back on Hydrogen Peroxide.

-Raine

*/julie martin /* wrote:


our family uses zinc oxide ointment in place of
commercial deodorants.