Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
$5 per quart. http://home.kc.rr.com/richadams/cstrade.html - Original Message - Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts?
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
One theory of arthritis is that it's an auto-immune disorder resulting from mycoplasma infection. If true, EIS could provide a cure. Whether any studies show evidence of this I don't know. On Saturday, Feb 23, 2008, at 21:50 Asia/Tokyo, Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term "boost" which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word "boost" is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The "boost" that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Buckwheat
Faith- I'm on the forum- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/ But some of these recipes I came up with by myself, the raw buckwheat salad, buckwheat pizza, and chocolate topping. Nancy On Feb 23, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote: aith gagne wrote: Nancy, where are you getting these BP recipes? Thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Hi Kirsteen, It sounds like you got it from a virus or something like that. Before I had this, I put myself through school working almost full time and going to college full time studying geology- not an easy major. At the worst, I could barely get out of bed too, and drs would tell me it was all in my head, and I should get out more, and exercise- can you believe it. I don't remember having it like you did- mine was related to winter- when the house was closed up, and no sun, etc. I thought it might be a severe type of winter blues, but it just kept getting worse no matter what I did. It was definitely related to mold toxins, and maybe Lyme. It sounds like we have 2 different things. I have a friend who has fibro, and thought there are similarities, the differences are more. I was fired by one dr, and I was nice and everything. Others would not let me in the door- would not give me an appt, I had to go out of state to find someone who had heard of anything approaching it. He is an environmental allergist, and I cried in his office, from the relief of having someone believe me. I gave him the exact same history I had given the man who labeled me as a hypochondriac. The big diff was he believed me, and had had patients who had also had problems like this, so he knew alot. There is a medical mafia in this state that actively supresses information, and penalizes drs who dare to defy them- they even go so far as to remove their liscense to practice. I think more than one good dr has moved out of state from it. On Feb 23, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote: When I was struck down by it (and I really was felled) I was healthy, exercised regularly, was in a challenging job I loved, ate a wholefood, mainly organic diet, carefully supplemented, practised the Silva method of postive thinking had just moved into a beautiful new flat and generally adored life. Within a couple of weeks I was virtuall housebound, frequently bedbound with horrendous vertigo and a whole catalogue of digestive, cognative and motor complaints. That was 18 months ago, in many ways I'm worse now and haven't worked since. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Oxalic acid and cancer
Genetics or weaknesses in parathyroid, pituitary, kidneys,etc. It could be your blood type or the way your nervous system responds to different foods or chemicals. Stones can be caused by a nanobacteria as described in the book, The Calcium Bomb, if memory serves me. This is why no solution is right for every person. I usually recommend Hydrangea for this and keeping the body pH balanced. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Smitty wrote: > > Yes but if you are going on the premise that oxalic acid > >is bad i.e. For forming stones etc., then a lot of fruits are high in it. > > I see the kidney stone problem with some people, > is the fact that there seems to be something else > going on and not that they are ingesting fruits with > high oxalic acid. > Some can eat anything & NOT get kidney stones. > Maybe others can add to this ? > > Smitty > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Dear Kristen and Scott, Go to a site www.mgwater.com You will find your symptoms there. Mary -- Original message from "Kirsteen Wright" : -- On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance. As there is so little real research, there are many theories about what causes it but no real proof, therefore no real treatment. Lumping M.E. in with cronic fatigue also blurs the edges since fatigue can occur in so many totally unrelated conditions from depression to post viral illness etc. When I was struck down by it (and I really was felled) I was healthy, exercised regularly, was in a challenging job I loved, ate a wholefood, mainly organic diet, carefully supplemented, practised the Silva method of postive thinking had just moved into a beautiful new flat and generally adored life. Within a couple of weeks I was virtuall housebound, frequently bedbound with horrendous vertigo and a whole catalogue of digestive, cognative and motor complaints. That was 18 months ago, in many ways I'm worse now and haven't worked since. I'm extremely limited in my abilities and any attempt to push the boundaries leads to such loss of muscle control that I can't even stay upright but have to be picked off the floor and carried to bed. On a really good day I might make it out but I'll pay for it by being bedbound for 2 or 3 days after it. But, hey, I'm by no means the worst affected, there are a lot of people an awful lot worse off with it than me. And there has been some improvement on the cognative side. At first I couldn't read more than a paragraph or watch more tan 10 minutes of tv. Now, although I'm nowhere near the level of academic research I used to do for fun, on a good day, I can manage things like emails and sometimes watch a whole program. Just don't ask me to remember it afterwards :-) Hope you find someting useful Kirsteen
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
I've been selling mine for 25.00 a quart...debbie jlgregel wrote: Hi all...I've been curious about sellling some of the EIS I make. I purchased the big 5 gallon SilverGen to make EIS for a cat shelter I'm involved with. We are non-profit...and barely scrape by finanacially , like most shelters. If I could sell a bit of EIS, that would help offset the cost of the generator and buying all this distilled water. Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts? I'm in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State). Thanks much, Lin - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:44 AM Subject: Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie faith gagne wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
It sounds like neuralgia to me. Neuralgia is nerve pain and it is indeed painful because I have it. Google Neuralgia and see what you come up with. I believe it is not curable. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:03 PM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Dee wrote: I had heard that it was a B12 and or folic acid deficiency can cause this. Some sufferers have low folic acid and B12 others it's high. Personally I've always had mine supplemeted with injections as I've pernicious aneamia but all blood tests show it's remained high throughout this illness. My own theory is that it is a manifestation of the herpes virus as I had a fairly bad case of this, although not nearly as bad as you Kirsteen. I had awful 'stabbing' pains in various places; under the flabby bit of my arm; around my ribs, and across my middle back. The pain was quite excruciating and my skin would be so tender I couldn't touch it. Have you found any research that suggets this. I've never found anyone relating herpes to M.E. I'm lucky I've never had herpes or shingles. Kirsteen
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Scott wrote: > Kirsteen, > > Thanks for getting back to me and so quickly. I am being looked at by the > medical folks as a hypochondriac even though my complaints are legitimate. Unfortunately tis appens to a lot of people. The first occupational doctor i was sent to by my work told me he didn't believe in M.E. so why was i comlaining I was too tired to work when there was nothing wrong with me, tis was on a day i was in tears at the effort of trying to sit in an upright chair :-( > It seems as though they either do not know what this stuff is or they > aren't sure how to treat/prevent it. Some doctors genuinely don't believe in it others are totally frustrated at being unable to treat or 'cure' it. > It's pretty sad when after being with same doctor for 15 years he decides > that he cannot continue to see me and my family any more due to our losing > insurance but still able to be cash patients. Stated that we would be > considered new cash patients and he is not taking on any more cash patients. > That sounds horrendous. > Anyhow, the doctor I am now with seems to be a little less narrow-minded > and so I want to direct him to whatever information that he could glean to > simplify both of our lives. > I am sorry that your country has decided to drop funding for the research > on this stuff. I was reading a bit ago that over 90% of North Americans have > one of the viruses that can cause M.E. yet the doctors seem oblivious to > it. Don't want to call it a conspiracy but are they truly that ignorant? I > just don't know. Anyway, I will look at these links you sent me and glean as > much info as possible for myself and my doctor. It is the closest diagnosis > I have seen thus far. You could also try this site http://www.ahummingbirdsguide.com/whatisme.htm it has a lot of excellent information as does http://www.investinme.org/index.htm and for a more personal approach http://fatigue.wikispaces.com/ this site has a lot of leaflets you can download which help explain it http://www.leger.me.uk/ If I can dig up any others I'll let you know. I'm a member of , but it's a distinctly Uk group. cfallia...@yahoogroups.com is a more USA based group. I came off it as so many people on it actually suffer from fibromyalgia rather than M.E. but there there are some ME sufferers on it so it might be of some help. hope some of tis helps Kirsteen >
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
> > Here's something for you to read = > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=368594 > Thank you so much for posting this. I nearly cried when I read it as it's so > rare to read something which so exactly describes it. > Thank you > Kirsteen You are welcome. . . glad to help. . . . . Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Smitty wrote: > > > Here's something for you to read = > > http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=368594 > Thank you so much for posting this. I nearly cried when I read it as it's so rare to read something which so exactly describes it. Thank you Kirsteen
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Dee wrote: >I had heard that it was a B12 and or folic acid deficiency can cause > this. > Some sufferers have low folic acid and B12 others it's high. Personally I've always had mine supplemeted with injections as I've pernicious aneamia but all blood tests show it's remained high throughout this illness. > My own theory is that it is a manifestation of the herpes virus as I > had a fairly bad case of this, although not nearly as bad as you Kirsteen. > I had awful 'stabbing' pains in various places; under the flabby bit of my > arm; around my ribs, and across my middle back. The pain was quite > excruciating and my skin would be so tender I couldn't touch it. > Have you found any research that suggets this. I've never found anyone relating herpes to M.E. I'm lucky I've never had herpes or shingles. Kirsteen
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
Hi all...I've been curious about sellling some of the EIS I make. I purchased the big 5 gallon SilverGen to make EIS for a cat shelter I'm involved with. We are non-profit...and barely scrape by finanacially , like most shelters. If I could sell a bit of EIS, that would help offset the cost of the generator and buying all this distilled water. Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts? I'm in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State). Thanks much, Lin - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:44 AM Subject: Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie faith gagne wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
> I was also wondering if there is a Yahoo Group >that has members dealing with M.E. or the like? >Please let me know. Ther are some M.E. groups here = http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=myalgic+encephalomyelitis+ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Becker pages please?
There a group here you can look at = http://tinyurl.com/2bdmda Smitty > ...a Becker yahoogroup? > have the name of it? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Hi Kirsteen and all, There have been posts by Brooks Bradley in the past about CMO (cetylmyristoleate) and degenerative arthritic conditions. A piece of this statement from one of those posts: "...that a majority of degenerative arthritic conditions share a common cause. to wit: the T-Cells in the synovial fluid of the articulating joints lose their ability (usually starting around age 55) the distinguish between healthy, live, tissue.and dead, necrotic tissue! and these abnormally-responding T-cells begin to attack the living tissue within the joint capsule. These attacks can, in many cases, be inflicted on both cartilaginous and ligamentous tissue. These T-cells are, literally, consuming the exposed layers of living tissue. CMO does not chemically attack the errant T-cellsit merely effects a condition which TURNS THEM OFF. This allows the body's normal immune/reconstruction system to begin restoring the challenged joint." I have successfully used CMO for knee/joint pain ( I am 60); my daughter-in-law's mother (she was 68) eliminated her arthritis with a 10 day course; my sister-in-law same thing (she is 44). No recurrences over varying time periods. I asked Brooks about Degenerative Disk Disease and CMO and he suggested that it would be worth trying. That trial hasn't happened, yet. However, CMO is supposed to (this is extracted from literature from some suppliers) useful for: 1) Blood sedimentation in Lupus patients 2) Reduces insulin requirements in diabetics 3) Reverses prostate inflamation 4) Relieves some of the symptoms of multiple sclerosis 5) Correct's Chron's disease 6) Reverses fibromyalgia 7) Regulates blood pressure 8) Generally benefits ailments with autoimmune components "CMO is a general remedial immunomodulator that acts upon memory T-cells which control the autoimmune processes..." "...CMO acts only upon memory T-cells and doesn't inhibit the activities of any of the several other types of T-cells that are responsible for combating infective microorganisms or invading substances." If I had any of these other things I would definately try CMO, it isn't real expensive and is derived from beef tallow (a fatty acid ester), so relatively benign, unless you are taking immune suppressents, then you need to study the literature on CMO. I am not making any claims other than the results that I have seen personally, and those are anecdotal reports only. FWIW, Craig I have M.E. and to be honest the jury is still out on whether that is an auto immune disease or not. I was warned by several people I know, who also have M.E. that they reacted badly to echinacea with a dramatic rise in their symptoms. I'd mentioned that I used to take it along with massive doses of Vit C at the onset of a cold (that was pre CS days) I couldn't swear to it offhand but I believe the problems were highlighted by Dr Sarah Myhill. She's the UK expert on M.E. and has been so helpful to sufferers recommending alternative supplements, diets etc over drugs that the General Medical Council are trying to get her struck off. I've never tried echinacea (it's a herb that boosts the immune system) since I developed M.E. so I've no firsthand knowledge. I reckon why risk it when CS works so effectively with no side effects. I do have a friend with lupus and one with R.A. who both report a complete flare up in symptoms if the take echinacea. they've both been told by doctors that their immune systems are already in overdrive so anything that strengthens them will only make them worse. I don't know exactly how CS works but it certainly doesn't have any adverse effects on me for which I'm extremely grateful. Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
I did, but as I didn't know that it could help I didn't use it, thinking that what I had was 'something to do with nerves' or 'mystery nerve pain' as my other doctor called it. I also didn't realize that sciatica could be a viral condition either, but now I know differently. Touch wood, I haven't had the stabbing pains at all since using the CS and l-lysine etc., whereas I have had them all the time on and off for quite a few years. Dee - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? And shingles is a viral conditon as is herpes. Too bad you didn't have CS at the time. Faith G.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
CS kills viruses. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Scott To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? Kirsteen, Thanks for getting back to me and so quickly. I am being looked at by the medical folks as a hypochondriac even though my complaints are legitimate. It seems as though they either do not know what this stuff is or they aren't sure how to treat/prevent it. It's pretty sad when after being with same doctor for 15 years he decides that he cannot continue to see me and my family any more due to our losing insurance but still able to be cash patients. Stated that we would be considered new cash patients and he is not taking on any more cash patients. Anyhow, the doctor I am now with seems to be a little less narrow-minded and so I want to direct him to whatever information that he could glean to simplify both of our lives. I am sorry that your country has decided to drop funding for the research on this stuff. I was reading a bit ago that over 90% of North Americans have one of the viruses that can cause M.E. yet the doctors seem oblivious to it. Don't want to call it a conspiracy but are they truly that ignorant? I just don't know. Anyway, I will look at these links you sent me and glean as much info as possible for myself and my doctor. It is the closest diagnosis I have seen thus far. I was also wondering if there is a Yahoo Group that has members dealing with M.E. or the like? Please let me know. Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance. As there is so little real research, there are many theories about what causes it but no real proof, therefore no real treatment. Lumping M.E. in with cronic fatigue also blurs the edges since fatigue can occur in so many totally unrelated conditions from depression to post viral illness etc. When I was struck down by it (and I really was felled) I was healthy, exercised regularly, was in a challenging job I loved, ate a wholefood, mainly organic diet, carefully supplemented, practised the Silva method of postive thinking had just moved into a beautiful new flat and generally adored life. Within a couple of weeks I was virtuall housebound, frequently bedbound with horrendous vertigo and a whole catalogue of digestive, cognative and motor complaints. That was 18 months ago, in many ways I'm worse now and haven't worked since. I'm extremely limited in my abilities and any attempt to push the boundaries leads to such loss of muscle control that I can't even stay upright but have to be picked off the floor and carried to bed. On a really good day I might make it out but I'll pay for it by being bedbound for 2 or 3 days after it. But, hey, I'm by no means the worst affected, there are a lot of people an awful lot worse off with it than me. And there has been some improvement on the cognative side. At first I couldn't read more than a paragraph or watch more tan 10 minutes of tv. Now, although I'm nowhere near the level of academic research I used to do for fun, on a good day, I can manage things like emails and sometimes watch a whole program. Just don't ask me to remember it afterwards :-) Hope you find someting useful Kirsteen Scotty (Beam me up, Captain!) -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
I formerly had a lot of trouble with cold sores and sun blisters in my lips (herpes virus) until years ago a naturopathic doctor prescribed 500 mg capsules of l-lysine. I took a maintenance dose of one capsule a day unless I had an outbreak of sores or blisters. Then I would increase the dose to 8 capsules a day: 3 in the am, 2 at noon, and 3 more in the evening. This worked well, shortening the duration of painful blisters considerably and the maintenance dose worked quite well at keeping me free of blisters. The doctor explained to me that l-lysine creates a climate in the body that the virus doesn't like and the virus will withdraw into its hiding place in the body and stay there. L-lysine did a good job of keeping the virus under control but it did not get rid of the virus. CS had gotten rid of the virus like a charm until recently when it seemed to stop working. I was just dabbing CS on the sores with a cotton ball. Then I discovered that if I used CS straight from the brown bottle instead of the little plastic sprayer I had been using, the CS worked like a charm again. It was the plastic sprayer that made the CS ineffective. Faith G. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? And shingles is a viral conditon as is herpes. Too bad you didn't have CS at the time. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? I had heard that it was a B12 and or folic acid deficiency can cause this. My own theory is that it is a manifestation of the herpes virus as I had a fairly bad case of this, although not nearly as bad as you Kirsteen. I had awful 'stabbing' pains in various places; under the flabby bit of my arm; around my ribs, and across my middle back. The pain was quite excruciating and my skin would be so tender I couldn't touch it. My doctor said it was shingles, which I poo-poohed as I had no lesions at all. I had to live on pain killers and amitriptylene an anti depressant which doctors use for this condition. I now think he was right as when I *did* get shingles i.e. With lesions, I used tons of CS plus l-lysine and all the vits and minerals I could ingest! I also had a bad case of sciatica, which also went with this regime. Dee
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
And shingles is a viral conditon as is herpes. Too bad you didn't have CS at the time. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? I had heard that it was a B12 and or folic acid deficiency can cause this. My own theory is that it is a manifestation of the herpes virus as I had a fairly bad case of this, although not nearly as bad as you Kirsteen. I had awful 'stabbing' pains in various places; under the flabby bit of my arm; around my ribs, and across my middle back. The pain was quite excruciating and my skin would be so tender I couldn't touch it. My doctor said it was shingles, which I poo-poohed as I had no lesions at all. I had to live on pain killers and amitriptylene an anti depressant which doctors use for this condition. I now think he was right as when I *did* get shingles i.e. With lesions, I used tons of CS plus l-lysine and all the vits and minerals I could ingest! I also had a bad case of sciatica, which also went with this regime. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 23/02/2008 16:42:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Kirsteen, Thanks for getting back to me and so quickly. I am being looked at by the medical folks as a hypochondriac even though my complaints are legitimate. It seems as though they either do not know what this stuff is or they aren't sure how to treat/prevent it. It's pretty sad when after being with same doctor for 15 years he decides that he cannot continue to see me and my family any more due to our losing insurance but still able to be cash patients. Stated that we would be considered new cash patients and he is not taking on any more cash patients. Anyhow, the doctor I am now with seems to be a little less narrow-minded and so I want to direct him to whatever information that he could glean to simplify both of our lives. I am sorry that your country has decided to drop funding for the research on this stuff. I was reading a bit ago that over 90% of North Americans have one of the viruses that can cause M.E. yet the doctors seem oblivious to it. Don't want to call it a conspiracy but are they truly that ignorant? I just don't know. Anyway, I will look at these links you sent me and glean as much info as possible for myself and my doctor. It is the closest diagnosis I have seen thus far. I was also wondering if there is a Yahoo Group that has members dealing with M.E. or the like? Please let me know. Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance. As there is so little real research, there are many theories about what causes it but no real proof, therefore no real treatment. Lumping M.E. in with cronic fatigue also blurs the edges since fatigue can occur in so many totally unrelated conditions from depression to post viral illness etc. When I was struck down by it (and I really was felled) I was healthy, exercised regularly, was in a challenging job I loved, ate a wholefood, mainly organic diet, carefully supplemented, practised the Silva method of postive thinking had just moved into a beautiful new flat and generally adored life. Within a couple of weeks I was virtuall housebound, frequently bedbound with horrendous vertigo and a whole catalogue of digestive, cognative and motor complaints. That was 18 months ago, in many ways I'm worse now and haven't worked since. I'm extremely limited in my abilities and any attempt to push the boundaries leads to such loss of muscle control that I can't even stay upright but have to be picked off the floor and carried to bed. On a really good day I might make it out but I'll pay for it by being bedbound for 2 or 3 days after it. But, hey, I'm by no means the worst affected, there are a lot of people an awful lot worse off with it than me. And there has been some improvement on the cognative side. At first I couldn't read more than a paragraph or watch more tan 10 minutes of tv. Now, although I'm nowhere near the level of academic research I used to do for fun, on a good day, I can manage things like emails and sometimes watch a whole program. Just don't ask me to remember it afterwards :-) Hope you find someting useful Kirsteen Scotty (Beam me up, Captain!) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
> Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic > condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds > a lot like what I have and I would like to know more about it. Do you have > any information or links that would be helpful for me. I, too, take > colloidal silver and it has kept me from getting real sick like I used to. > Anyhow, I am very interested to hear more regarding this disease and what > can/is being done for it. Thank you much. > > Looking For Answers, > Scotty <>< Here's something for you to read = http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=368594 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
I had heard that it was a B12 and or folic acid deficiency can cause this. My own theory is that it is a manifestation of the herpes virus as I had a fairly bad case of this, although not nearly as bad as you Kirsteen. I had awful 'stabbing' pains in various places; under the flabby bit of my arm; around my ribs, and across my middle back. The pain was quite excruciating and my skin would be so tender I couldn't touch it. My doctor said it was shingles, which I poo-poohed as I had no lesions at all. I had to live on pain killers and amitriptylene an anti depressant which doctors use for this condition. I now think he was right as when I *did* get shingles i.e. With lesions, I used tons of CS plus l-lysine and all the vits and minerals I could ingest! I also had a bad case of sciatica, which also went with this regime. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 23/02/2008 16:42:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: > Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic > condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. > sounds a lot like what I have Hi Scott You could try http://www.mechat.co.uk/ there's a lot of links there. Unfortunately, over here, the psychiatric brigade hijacked the funding for research and of course won't let go so there's very little biomedical research done on it. We're still frequently told it's all in our heads and all we need is some CBT to persuade us we're not ill and we'll be fine. Despite that we're not allowed to donate organs or blood and the changes in the brain stem are showing up on autopsies and it can now officially be given as a cause of death. If you can afford the private tests you can also show the degeneration in the mitochondria, and the ATp / Awhatsits imbalance. As there is so little real research, there are many theories about what causes it but no real proof, therefore no real treatment. Lumping M.E. in with cronic fatigue also blurs the edges since fatigue can occur in so many totally unrelated conditions from depression to post viral illness etc. When I was struck down by it (and I really was felled) I was healthy, exercised regularly, was in a challenging job I loved, ate a wholefood, mainly organic diet, carefully supplemented, practised the Silva method of postive thinking had just moved into a beautiful new flat and generally adored life. Within a couple of weeks I was virtuall housebound, frequently bedbound with horrendous vertigo and a whole catalogue of digestive, cognative and motor complaints. That was 18 months ago, in many ways I'm worse now and haven't worked since. I'm extremely limited in my abilities and any attempt to push the boundaries leads to such loss of muscle control that I can't even stay upright but have to be picked off the floor and carried to bed. On a really good day I might make it out but I'll pay for it by being bedbound for 2 or 3 days after it. But, hey, I'm by no means the worst affected, there are a lot of people an awful lot worse off with it than me. And there has been some improvement on the cognative side. At first I couldn't read more than a paragraph or watch more tan 10 minutes of tv. Now, although I'm nowhere near the level of academic research I used to do for fun, on a good day, I can manage things like emails and sometimes watch a whole program. Just don't ask me to remember it afterwards :-) Hope you find someting useful Kirsteen
Re: CS>Oxalic acid and cancer
> Yes but if you are going on the premise that oxalic acid >is bad i.e. For forming stones etc., then a lot of fruits are high in it. I see the kidney stone problem with some people, is the fact that there seems to be something else going on and not that they are ingesting fruits with high oxalic acid. Some can eat anything & NOT get kidney stones. Maybe others can add to this ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have and I would like to know more about it. Do you have any information or links that would be helpful for me. I, too, take colloidal silver and it has kept me from getting real sick like I used to. Anyhow, I am very interested to hear more regarding this disease and what can/is being done for it. Thank you much. Looking For Answers, Scotty <>< Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:34 PM, faith gagne wrote: Hi Kristeen. Who warned you? what happens to you if you take something? I forget what echinacea does. Faith G. I have M.E. and to be honest the jury is still out on whether that is an auto immune disease or not. I was warned by several people I know, who also have M.E. that they reacted badly to echinacea with a dramatic rise in their symptoms. I'd mentioned that I used to take it along with massive doses of Vit C at the onset of a cold (that was pre CS days) I couldn't swear to it offhand but I believe the problems were highlighted by Dr Sarah Myhill. She's the UK expert on M.E. and has been so helpful to sufferers recommending alternative supplements, diets etc over drugs that the General Medical Council are trying to get her struck off. I've never tried echinacea (it's a herb that boosts the immune system) since I developed M.E. so I've no firsthand knowledge. I reckon why risk it when CS works so effectively with no side effects. I do have a friend with lupus and one with R.A. who both report a complete flare up in symptoms if the take echinacea. they've both been told by doctors that their immune systems are already in overdrive so anything that strengthens them will only make them worse. I don't know exactly how CS works but it certainly doesn't have any adverse effects on me for which I'm extremely grateful. Kirsteen - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Yes, I hear that. I have been called chronic fatigue, but what causes it is toxicity. In my case it is primarily mold toxicity, although chemicals can also cause the symptoms. My symptoms matched what is called ME over there. The CS works well for me too, although it has caused some exacerbation of symptoms which are probably due to it killing off some fungal infections. I had to take it very slow, and increase it bit by bit. On Feb 23, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, faith gagne wrote: Okay, what is M.E.? thanks. Faith G. Myalgic Encephomeyelitis. In USA I believe they call it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which to be honest totally trivialises it since fatigue is the very least of it. As someone (I can't remember who) put it, calling M.E. chronic fatigue is like calling type 1 diabetes cronic sweet tooth. Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
Yes and also sent a sample to be tested. i now use a regulated power supply and watch the amp guage to "guess it"- based on 10 years experience.. If you don't trust gold, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion dollars? - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS Did you use a TDS meter? "T. J. Garland" wrote: Some people will ask you the ppm. I have on my bottles 10 ppm nominal. Mine was tested to be 8-15-ppm Most people have barely heard of CS. Have some handouts to give them. Make NO medical claims. Say-shown to be effective for--- If you don't trust gold, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion dollars? - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Okay, what is M.E.? thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:34 PM, faith gagne wrote: Hi Kristeen. Who warned you? what happens to you if you take something? I forget what echinacea does. Faith G. I have M.E. and to be honest the jury is still out on whether that is an auto immune disease or not. I was warned by several people I know, who also have M.E. that they reacted badly to echinacea with a dramatic rise in their symptoms. I'd mentioned that I used to take it along with massive doses of Vit C at the onset of a cold (that was pre CS days) I couldn't swear to it offhand but I believe the problems were highlighted by Dr Sarah Myhill. She's the UK expert on M.E. and has been so helpful to sufferers recommending alternative supplements, diets etc over drugs that the General Medical Council are trying to get her struck off. I've never tried echinacea (it's a herb that boosts the immune system) since I developed M.E. so I've no firsthand knowledge. I reckon why risk it when CS works so effectively with no side effects. I do have a friend with lupus and one with R.A. who both report a complete flare up in symptoms if the take echinacea. they've both been told by doctors that their immune systems are already in overdrive so anything that strengthens them will only make them worse. I don't know exactly how CS works but it certainly doesn't have any adverse effects on me for which I'm extremely grateful. Kirsteen
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, faith gagne wrote: > Okay, what is M.E.? thanks. Faith G. > Myalgic Encephomeyelitis. In USA I believe they call it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which to be honest totally trivialises it since fatigue is the very least of it. As someone (I can't remember who) put it, calling M.E. chronic fatigue is like calling type 1 diabetes cronic sweet tooth. Kirsteen
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
Did you use a TDS meter? "T. J. Garland" wrote: Some people will ask you the ppm. I have on my bottles 10 ppm nominal. Mine was tested to be 8-15-ppm Most people have barely heard of CS. Have some handouts to give them. Make NO medical claims. Say-shown to be effective for--- If you don't trust gold, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion dollars? - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 2:34 PM, faith gagne wrote: > Hi Kristeen. Who warned you? what happens to you if you take > something? I forget what echinacea does. Faith G. > I have M.E. and to be honest the jury is still out on whether that is an auto immune disease or not. I was warned by several people I know, who also have M.E. that they reacted badly to echinacea with a dramatic rise in their symptoms. I'd mentioned that I used to take it along with massive doses of Vit C at the onset of a cold (that was pre CS days) I couldn't swear to it offhand but I believe the problems were highlighted by Dr Sarah Myhill. She's the UK expert on M.E. and has been so helpful to sufferers recommending alternative supplements, diets etc over drugs that the General Medical Council are trying to get her struck off. I've never tried echinacea (it's a herb that boosts the immune system) since I developed M.E. so I've no firsthand knowledge. I reckon why risk it when CS works so effectively with no side effects. I do have a friend with lupus and one with R.A. who both report a complete flare up in symptoms if the take echinacea. they've both been told by doctors that their immune systems are already in overdrive so anything that strengthens them will only make them worse. I don't know exactly how CS works but it certainly doesn't have any adverse effects on me for which I'm extremely grateful. Kirsteen
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
Some people will ask you the ppm. I have on my bottles 10 ppm nominal. Mine was tested to be 8-15-ppm Most people have barely heard of CS. Have some handouts to give them. Make NO medical claims. Say-shown to be effective for--- If you don't trust gold, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion dollars? - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Budwig Diet Revision, was Re: CS>MAGNESIUM QUESTION
Check out Duncan Crow's Budwig Diet Revision: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/Budwig-diet-revision.html I would do this revised diet, but not the original. sol faith gagne wrote: I'd say the stupid Budweig diet is nothing more than propaganda against the consumer and doesn't know it's elbow from a hole in the ground.. I wouldn't goanywhere near a diet that demands people stop taking supplements. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie faith gagne wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: CS>Buckwheat
thank-you Faith good to learn something newdebbie faith gagne wrote: Nancy, where are you getting these BP recipes? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:37 AM Subject: Re: CS>Buckwheat > Debbie- I have gotten raw buckwheat from Azure Standard, and have > soaked it overnight, rinsed it in a strainer, and added cinnamon and > coconut to balance the rather mucilaginous dampness (slime!), and added > sliced apple and soaked raw almonds, for a raw breakfast. It tastes > good to me, as I like the cinnamon. > > The BP people think that whole buckwheat cooked by toasting slightly > and simmering is healthful. > > Nancy > > On Feb 22, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: > >> Good info..the only time I have seen buckwheat used is in pancakes I >> wonder if the cooking would destroy alot of the benefits of >> this?...thanks debbie > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: CS>Packaging and selling EIS
Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: cs Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Packaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
Hi Kristeen. Who warned you? what happens to you if you take something? I forget what echinacea does. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:56 PM, faith gagne wrote: I think "Boost" is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is "splitting hairs".Faith G. Actually there are now quite a number of auto-immune diseases where the bodies own defence systems do get out of kilter and attack the body itself. For instance I've been well warned that I can no longer take echinacea or any immune bosster like that. I have to say, however, that I've never had any trouble with CS and rely on it regularly. Kirsteen
RE: CS>Becker pages please?
this is the one that I belong to that shows how to make the devices. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frexchat/ bob Larson wrote: ...a Becker yahoogroup? have the name of it? -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Becker pages please? Did you know that there is a yahoo group as well?..debbie Nenah Sylver wrote: Hi. I've been looking for the pages in The Body Electric by Becker for the exact text from the book, whose website link (that I can't find at the moment) someone just posted a little while ago. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:56 PM, faith gagne wrote: > I think "Boost" is the totally appropriate word for something that > provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that > your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. > Your friend is "splitting hairs".Faith G. > Actually there are now quite a number of auto-immune diseases where the bodies own defence systems do get out of kilter and attack the body itself. For instance I've been well warned that I can no longer take echinacea or any immune bosster like that. I have to say, however, that I've never had any trouble with CS and rely on it regularly. Kirsteen
CS>Packaging and selling EIS
My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
CS>Fw: Mastectomy petition
- Original Message - From: Eleanor Kopp To: 'Beverly Kopp' ; 'Brenda Myette' ; capecodc...@comcast.net ; cfkle...@comcast.net ; 'Carol Coverly' ; Kathy Clark ; 'Chris' ; 'Dina Feuerstein' ; 'Donna Riley' ; eliselub...@comcast.net ; 'Emily Kaplan' ; 'Edwina Yee' ; 'Fran ODonnell' ; 'Gail Densler' ; 'Mary Hunt' ; indigor...@aol.com ; 'Julie Soboil' ; jas...@comcast.net ; 'Jane R. Coates' ; khbro...@aol.com ; 'Lynn Sack' ; l9...@aol.com ; 'Lisa Lau' ; 'Andre, Lois' ; 'Mindy Posner' ; mflov...@yahoo.com ; rhi...@aol.com ; 'roanne k' ; 'Rose Reilly' ; sheer...@aol.com ; 'Walter T Webster' ; 'Tanya Taddeo' Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:40 AM Subject: FW: Mastectomy petition From: jmleithau...@aol.com [mailto:jmleithau...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:17 PM To: barbdvn...@yahoo.com; bon...@msn.com; bluejwe...@hotmail.com; cdbro...@cox.net; rccampbe...@yahoo.com; campho...@aol.com; paisan...@aol.com; dellymo...@aol.com; Donovan, Barbara; sber...@aol.com; patti6c...@aol.com; palmtree...@aol.com; gra...@securityplastics.com; j_n...@yahoo.com; jbeaner...@aol.com; jmtsu...@verizon.net; kalim...@aol.com; karatemom...@aol.com; gams...@yahoo.com; eastla...@optonline.net; nonniesill...@aol.com; pfra...@aol.com; ragoetz...@cs.com; thenursesolut...@aol.com Subject: Mastectomy petition Subject: FW: take a minute to sign This is not a story, it's a request to make some changes in the laws regarding health insurance companies. From a nurse: I'll never forget the look in my patients eyes when I had to tell them they had to go home with the drains, new exercises and no breast. I remember begging the Doctors to keep these women in t he hospital longer, only to hear that they would, but their hands were tied by the insurance companies. Needing to take care of themselves, knowing full well they didn't grasp half of what I was saying, because the glazed, hopeless, frightened look spoke louder than the quiet 'Thank You they muttered. A mastectomy is when a woman's breast is removed in order to remove cancerous breast cells/tissue. If you know anyone who has had a Mastectomy, you may know that there is a lot of discomfort and pain afterwards. Insurance companies are trying to make mastectomies an outpatient procedure. Let's give women the chance to recover properly in the hospital for 2 days after surgery. It takes 2 seconds to do this and is very important. Please take the time and do it really quick! Please send this to everyone in your address book. If there was ever a time when our voices and choices should be heard, this is one of those times. If you're receiving this, it's because I think you will take the 30 seconds to go to vote on this issue and send it on to others. You know who will do the same. There's a bill called the Breast Cancer Patient Protection Act which will require Insurance Companies to cover a minimum 48-hour hospital stay for patients undergoing a mastectomy. It's about eliminating the 'drive-through mastectomy' where women are forced to go home just a few hours after surgery, against the wishes of their doctor, still groggy from anesthesia and sometimes with drainage tubes still attached. Lifetime Television has put this bill on their Web page with a petition drive to show your support. Last year over half the House signed on. Sign the petition by clicking on the Web site below. You need not give more than your name and zip code number. http://www.lifetimetv.com/breastcancer/petition/signpetition.php This takes about 2 seconds. PLEASE PASS THIS ON to your friends and family , and on behalf of all women, THANKS. More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there.
Re: CS>coconut oil - other ways to consume.
i like to put a teaspoon in my coffee, just need to stir it a lot, but it adds
creaminess and flavor...yum! but i am a heavy cream lover in my coffee, could
never use skim milk.
Rowena wrote:DIV { MARGIN: 0px }What I find works
best for me is to make a kind of chocolate treat. I have this for breakfast,
and it keeps me going for hours.
This is a mix of whole, chopped or ground nuts, dried fruits, seeds, spices,
coconut in various forms such as desiccated, or in flakes and strips. I also
add plain cocoa and sometimes a sprinkle of xylitol. Some people add wheat
germ. One could also add things such as Maca.
The idea is to choose what you want to eat, then prepare it in such a way
that you can mix it with coconut oil and set it hard in the fridge or freezer.
In winter you may need to put the oil jar in hot water until it is runny and
mix up quickly before it hardens in the cold air. That's when it's handy to
have the dry ingredients ready mixed. You choose the proportions according to
taste and availability.
I pre-mix my dry ingredients now, then it is quicker and more convenient to
make a fresh batch when needed. When I bring the nuts, seeds etc. home from
the shops, I grind or chop whatever needs that, such as flax seeds and so on,
then mix it all in a big plastic container. It's as well for me to add
cloves, ginger, cinnamon etc. at the same time, or I might forget, and those
are part of my health recipe also. Google for the health benefits of various
spices and make your choice from what you find.
When I mix a new batch, I mix whatever quantity I see fit of oil or dry
ingredients together, adding more of either to get a consistency that is not
going to be too dry and so not stick together, but also not so sloppy that it
will taste unpleasantly oily. I find I need the cocoa to fill in the gaps;
just the mix and oil doesn't seem to work as well.
Pretty much the best surface to put it on to set is the paper made for baking
with. I line a flat tin with it, and put the mix on it. I separate roughly
into squares to make it easier to break the pieces off when they are cold and
hard. Almost like Teflon. Keep it chilled except when you are about to eat
it. After it is set in the tin, I break it up and put it in a container in
the fridge. It will melt and fall apart if you have it in the warmth for
long. It is still edible that way, and if you need to you can take some of
the mix away with you even in warm weather in a screw top jar and have a few
spoonfuls whenever you want.
I have in the past decorated each square while still soft with a date, or a
piece of frozen fruit such as a raspberry, but by and large I don't fiddle,
just get it in a pan to chill.
A little oil on a cold sweet dish such as fruit or ice cream can be
interesting for its hard texture, and you could mix spice or xylitol or date
paste in with it to have as a sauce that will harden, or anything else you
think would suit.
Myself, I don't use it much to cook, but I might wipe it round a pan before
adding olive oil to cook. I value it too highly to risk wasting any.
A friend of mine had a way of preparing crumpets by adding VCNO to a frying
pan and heating the crumpets in that instead of toasting them in a toaster.
This made them kind of soft and plump rather than hard and crisp.
Another way is to use it on your toast, bread or muffins etc. like butter.
You can mix it with butter if you want. It does taste different, but it's
good. Jolly handy to always have a butter substitute on hand that doesn't go
off. You could also put it in your mashed potato or cooked vegetables for
smoothness.
I did sometimes put it in hot cocoa, but the oil was difficult to manage on
the sides of the cup afterwards. Well, not so much difficult, as wasteful
where it clings to the cup. Also, I didn't quite like the fattiness in hot
drinks.
Googling coconut and recipe will likely bring you a host of other ideas that
might suit. Laksa with coconut milk is nice - many different recipes come up
on a web search.
Bon appetit
Rowena
I want to use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I
can't think of many ways to use it other than on my skin. I can't cook with
it because husband doesn't like coconut's flavor. I added some to bran
muffins. I wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard
when cold, wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?
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Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
I think "Boost" is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is "splitting hairs".Faith G. - Original Message - From: Ian Davies To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: CS>EIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term "boost" which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word "boost" is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The "boost" that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain
Re: CS>Buckwheat
Nancy, where are you getting these BP recipes? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Tad Winiecki" To: Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:37 AM Subject: Re: CS>Buckwheat Debbie- I have gotten raw buckwheat from Azure Standard, and have soaked it overnight, rinsed it in a strainer, and added cinnamon and coconut to balance the rather mucilaginous dampness (slime!), and added sliced apple and soaked raw almonds, for a raw breakfast. It tastes good to me, as I like the cinnamon. The BP people think that whole buckwheat cooked by toasting slightly and simmering is healthful. Nancy On Feb 22, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Good info..the only time I have seen buckwheat used is in pancakes I wonder if the cooking would destroy alot of the benefits of this?...thanks debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Becker pages please?
...a Becker yahoogroup? have the name of it? -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Becker pages please? Did you know that there is a yahoo group as well?..debbie Nenah Sylver wrote: Hi. I've been looking for the pages in The Body Electric by Becker for the exact text from the book, whose website link (that I can't find at the moment) someone just posted a little while ago.
Re: CS>EIS Immune system booster?
I heard that it helps stem cell growth. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ian Davies Date: 23/02/2008 12:50:37 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>EIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term "boost" which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!!
CS>EIS Immune system booster?
I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term "boost" which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word "boost" is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The "boost" that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain
Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice
If only! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Gayla Roberts Date: 23/02/2008 01:10:06 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice LOL Fast food! Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aera...@gmail.com - Original Message -
Re: CS>Oxalic acid and cancer
This is a great article Nancy, truly inspiring and also enlightening. I have just cancelled my subscription to cancer research and put it into Marie Curie instead. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Tad Winiecki Date: 23/02/2008 01:09:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Oxalic acid and cancer If you really want some strange data about oxalic acid, one man claims it is a natural chemotherapy agent and kills cancer cells. It also seems to have a purpose in that oxalic crystals stimulate peristalsis in the intestines. Oxalic acid, as well as other acids, are neutralized in the body by Calcium. That means they use up Calcium and if not enough is present in the blood then the Calcium is pulled out of the bones. http://ezinearticles.com/?Oxalic-Acid---The-Cure-For-Cancer&id=912295
Re: CS>Oxalic acid and cancer
Yes but if you are going on the premise that oxalic acid is bad i.e. For forming stones etc., then a lot of fruits are high in it. Things like blueberries which I had always thought are excellent. Also strawberries. Again I think it has to do with moderation and not to overdo things, try to keep a balance I suppose. More is not always, better methinks. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Tad Winiecki Date: 23/02/2008 01:09:05 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Oxalic acid and cancer I don't know why fruits should be bad; apples are very good, pineapples, papayas, figs, and kiwis have proteolytic enzymes that can Break down proteins, blood clots, and fibrin masking cancer cells from the immune system. Purple fruits have anti-oxidant pigments, many fruits have anti-tumor or other health benefits. Grains without gluten- buckwheat, quinoa, millet, and rice, seem to help with balancing amino acids with legumes, and are good for energy and fiber. Nancy
