RE: CSRenee
Wait just a minute! Renee has NOT given up yet. DB
CSRest in Peace, Starshar
After a long illness, our beloved Starshar, Sharon Morrissey of West Chester, Pennsylvania, has passed. Her sister told me that she passed peacefully on Tuesday. For several years now she has passed on a great deal of her saved medical knowledge to me and it has often been of great benefit. She had wrestled increasingly with pain for a long time and everything she tried seemed to cause a reaction that her wracked body could no longer tolerate. A few months ago she got the news that she had some kind of pervasive cancer. She chose only palliative care. I will only say that there were other reasons that she decided not to fight. She had fought all she could. Besides, she had an insatiable curiosity about all matters spiritual and the other side; not morbidly so, but ready to see for herself. While I will rage against the dying of the light, it's not that way for everyone and I accept that. From the first of her revelation to myself and a few others of her condition and wishes for a peaceful end to her journey, I decided to be supportive of her no matter what. I will miss her, no matter that I never physically met her or even spoke directly with her. Sometimes printed words are enough and hers certainly were. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNeed expert advice ASAP
To everyone who knows about our challenging past 2 years and 9 months since Glenda found the lump in her breast, we send this out and ask for any expert advice on what to do when a large tumor is expelled from the body. Please don't take this wrong, but please don't inundate me with well-meant cancer advice right now. It looks like we've won or are very well on our way to winning now. What we are apparently facing now is the aftermath- it looks like the tumor is dead or quickly dying and is about to be expelled. That is bound to leave a hole and we need to know what to do next. But first- here's what happened this morning... Just to backtrack a bit, we forced the tumor to the surface first with inhaled hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized hydrogen peroxide, then with nebulized saline that was treated with a NightHawk Water Stone to make radon and ozone, then we combined that 50-50 with hydrogen peroxide. The real kicker was Iodine Cataphoresis. That really forced it to open up and stay open and drain out. I have been updating my document about IC and if anyone has the old one, you should ask me for the updated version. Anyone else who wants it, just ask but do so directly to me at ransley at atmc dot net. Since this thing really opened up, we kept it covered during the workday with zinc oxide ointment on bandages, then we applied a poultice at night of green clay and charcoal (there have been numerous other poultices used, but this one worked best with an open draining ulcer). We kept seeing a white surface inside the opening. We thought that was remnants of zinc oxide or flesh exposed to air. Most people who have read much about alternative medicine have run across the idea in the last few years that a tumor is white. Apparently, that is what we were looking at all along and didn't know it until this morning. All of a sudden, after she took a shower and removed the clay and charcoal, this thing was a dull yellowish color and looked shriveled and dry. All of a sudden, there was no drainage or bleeding. She called to me- although not overtly in a commanding way, but any man who has been long married knows that there is something in that call that says Husband Come Here Now. She said- what we've been seeing is the tumor. As she made a twisting move, I suddenly saw the flesh at the edge of the hole make a gap as it separated from the tumor. First time that's ever happened and it didn't bleed. I immediately knew that meant that flesh and tumor were disengaging from each other. The hole is presently the size of a nickel (US 5 cent coin) and is fairly circular. This thing is going to come out and pretty soon I think. What we need to know now is... If it doesn't come out right away all in one piece, what kind of external treatment might dissolve it? No matter if it comes out in one piece, pieces or if we dissolve it and it oozes out, there's going to be a cavity. I know enough to know not to prematurely speed the closing of that cavity, that it must heal from the inside out. What treatments would hasten that process without engendering infection? We've avoided infection nicely so far. Lastly- whatever suggestions we get must be cheap and simple. Not to bore anyone with this, but we're hanging on by our financial teeth right now. Not to worry, we never got much above our raising anyway and that raising was to do the best you can with what you got. As the joke goes, we've done so much for so long with so little that we're now qualified to do anything with nothing ;) Thanks for all the help so far and thanks in advance for any more. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRadiation Hormesis for Lyme
We will never be able to prove that our youngest daughter, Emma, had Lyme because we would not have her subjected to standard medical torture- er- uh- treatment for Lyme. She picked deer ticks off of our beagle and a few weeks later she was feeling sick and tired all the time and had a bull's eye rash on her thigh. It was as simple as that. She had just turned 17 when we got started treating it. This was fall of '05 We got huge results in the form of leopard-like spots that came out of her and literally covered her body except her hands and feet, from using the Salt-C protocol. But it was no cure as were several other things that we tried. We kept the Lyme reasonably under control but she did develop arthritis in 3 fingers and she had some dyslexic symptoms within a year. We discovered Radiation Hormesis ala www.nighthawkminerals.com, told about it by a friend while working on possible breast cancer for my wife. That's a separate story. By early spring of 2010 we had actually met Jay Gutierrez and Faye Cox (now married) and had come into possession of many more of their products and were prepared to do battle with Lyme in that manner. We got this started with her while she was still at college, 325 miles distant, in late March or early April of 2010. As it turned out, only the Kit was needed to defeat Em's Lyme. She wore the carnotite pendant 24/7 except for bathing. She drank from a pint to a quart daily of radon water made with the water stone. Both of these things made her nauseous at first. We learned that's because Lyme survives in the stomach lining. At first she would be nauseous for an hour or so from either putting on the necklace or drinking the water. That decreased to a few minutes of nausea. When she would remove the necklace to bathe then put it back on, she would get a wave of nausea. Eventually drinking the water only produced a wave of nausea. She used the mudpack to sleep on, either over her stomach or under her back. At first it produced some nausea too. She uses the green stones to reduce pain in her fingers by sleeping with them taped to her fingers. Eventually all nausea stopped. By July 2010 all her Lyme symptoms had left her except some residual weakness in her 3 fingers and a small amount of the dyslexia. She proudly proclaims that she has not had a Lyme Day since. She's 22 now and finishing college this year and aiming for a Master's next. To be totally fair and honest, she had continually kept the Lyme under a reasonable amount of control by using Salt-C and Magnascent iodine and MSM or DMSO but she and we knew that it was a losing battle so we never stopped looking for a successful treatment for full remission. That treatment had to be one that we could afford and would not disrupt her life. Radiation Hormesis filled the bill all around. I suspect that if the disease had progressed further then the treatment would have had more harsh effects and the recuperation would have taken longer. I have attempted to spread this news around but I have other things on my plate. To date I personally know of no one else who has done it. The few I've told have apparently ignored it. Most people freak out over any idea of radon or radiation. They're not to blame because they have been conditioned to do so by our scientific and medical establishment. If you have Lyme and want to consider this but are afraid to jump in, then first buy the book Because People Are Dying and learn the truth, particularly about how the EPA has known the truth about the GOOD health effects of radon for many years and have hidden that truth. You'll find that around page 40 of the book. Honestly, I never even read it any farther. Right then, when I read that, I put the book down and got to work. We will never be able to prove that Em does not now have Lyme just like we'll never be able to prove that she had it. We did not waste our money or time with the medical establishment and their inconclusive and expensive tests. We know what happened and that's all we need to know. Let him who has ears, hear. Radiation Hormesis is not a cure all just like nothing else is. We did try CS for Lyme but got nowhere. We use CS primarily to ward off any kind of stomach ailment and colds and flu and have used it very successfully for many other things in the past. In the past we had astounding success with nebulizing CS for bronchitis and pneumonia but now we never even get such things anymore with all that we've learned about avoiding them. Radiation Hormesis however has not been good for the things we use CS for. We've had both success and failures with RH just like we have had with CS. It's all just part of my health arsenal now, which includes a heckuva lot of other things. Some of you may see this post on some other groups, maybe edited a bit differently. I have got to trim down my participation in any Lyme related groups now. Like I said I have other things on my plate. This one appears to be over and done
RE: CSPrecipitating calcium before distillation
It was a typo. Should have said sodium carbonate. Now about that sodium...I assume you're trying to avoid sodium for blood pressure control. Counteract it by taking a little potassium bicarbonate. Available in wine making hobby stores. I used to have terrific BP problems. I have beat them with various forms of vitamin C from drinking lemon-juice-water per Carey Reams to making and taking homemade Liposomal C per Brooks Bradley. A while back I got into some BP trouble while experimenting with taking sodium bicarbonate for something. Believe me it will raise your BP faster that salt will. Chuck King and Starshar suggested I bring it down with potassium. Potassium bicarb was what I had and the effects were FAST. I can eat all the salt I want now with no BP increase but I don't eat common table salt, only salts that still have the other minerals left in. Salt is your friend and it's BP effects can be controlled/counteracted by other means. I nearly offed myself a few summers ago by the simple act of not salting my food while I worked outside in high 90's heat. My heart nearly stopped. I was literally blacking out from missed heartbeats. It took a long time for me to figure out that I desperately needed salt. DaddyBob
CSPrecipitating calcium before distillation
For years I wanted my own water distiller but I knew that my calcium carbonate loaded water would prematurely destroy one. We have to vigorously clean any pot after boiling water in it and have to religiously descale the coffee maker. I also wanted to build my own larger scale water distiller but the same problem applied- not worth the money and trouble because of the rapid calcium buildup. I have finally found two methods that will bring this closer to reality for me but have very practical applications already. I now de-calcify nearly all our drinking water. We do it in the common 5 gallon polycarbonate water jugs thusly: The secret precipitating agent is not at all a secret- it's calcium carbonate- plain old washing soda. It's still made by Arm Hammer and can be bought on eBay if you can't find it locally. The dose for my water is about 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. Stir in and dissolve well and watch the calcium cloud the water then fall to the bottom of the jug. About 24 hours later, siphon off with a small tube and through a funnel with several coffee filters. I use my filters over many times. Concerned about non-food grade calcium carbonate? Make your own. Spread some baking soda out in a pan and bake it at 350F for 2-2.5 hours. This preemptive process should add much life to any distiller. The best calcium cleaning solution I ever used in a coffee maker will probably work fine for distillers too: Standard 5% white vinegar to which I add powdered citric acid until it turns yellow. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSplantar fasciatis
You might also consider getting a Biomodulator. Don't I wish! Seriously! But that will have to wait who knows how long. In the meantime, listening to all of Tennant's interviews on Youtube and elsewhere is an overload of great information. DB
RE: CSplantar fasciatis
Google triple distilled turpentine + oil of cloves and you should be able to figure out the vendor. If not, email me off group. Straight is called neat in EO speak. You can only use it neat on the soles of your feet. By mixing it as I said with M2 Neutralizer Gel, you can apply it elsewhere. _ From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of jaxi Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSplantar fasciatis Bob - clove essential oils?? That is all I am finding. Did you dilute it at all or just use it straight? Jaxi On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Bob. Did the oil of cloves speed the healing of the torn ligament, or just relieve the pain? Stretching the toes toward the shin for awhile relieves my pain, but does nothing to heal the problem. Four hundred dollars for doctor, custom orthotics, new shoes, etc., has relieved the pain, but has not yet healed the ligament. Dick GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Press 1 if you speak English. Press '2' to disconnect until you can
RE: CSDeodorant
The stone works good for my wife and is invisible. Doesn't work for me at all. DB
CSPlantar fasciitis, was DMSO, to Lisa
So are you saying that using oil of cloves rubbed on one's foot for plantar fasciitis will help relieve the pain (with the possibility of a brief bout of painful urination)? Yes. I am using the Oil of Cloves from www.studioproducts.com, actually sold as a fine art paint additive. They sent me a bottle to try with an order of their triple distilled turpentine. I asked around what it was good for and Chuck told me that it was good for the kind of pain like being hit in the face with a brick;) Well that was a pretty good description of my foot pain sometimes so I rubbed some on and began to get immediate relief. To cut it all short, I found out that it worked as good and dried faster when mixed with Miracle II Neutralizer Gel. Just cover the bottom of a shot glass with M2 Neut Gel, add a FEW drops of Clove oil, mix with finger until emulsified, and apply to foot. Warning: Any infections in the body will begin dying. I still get a very mild reaction in my right sinus and upper jaw joint area from it. The first urination after application may burn. That can happen within 30 seconds. Clove oil goes through the skin and throughout the body as fast as or faster than DMSO but it smells good and you don't taste it. Anything else you used specifically for the PF? A grounding pad at my feet as I sleep, and 2 of Peter Kulish's regular magnets, in a sock, one one each side of foot, green side in. I have tired many other things including many rubbings with DMSO and took lots of various and sundry superfoods and supplements including recently a lot of Knox gelatin but nothing gave me the pain relief that I got from Oil of Cloves. I do think though that the magnets and grounding add much to the actual healing, but do not give the pain relief of the Clove oil. Wash hands afterward. Do NOT get Clove oil in eyes! DaddyBob
RE: CSPlantar fasciitis, was DMSO, to Lisa
The clove oil can create a herx if you are carrying something because it is a powerful anti-microbial. Yes, definitely. If you use any homeopathics it will antidote them. Didn't know that, good to know because my wife is going to try a new homeopathic remedy so we'll suspend Cloves oil while trying it. Doesn't the M2 gel have a lot of magnesium in it? That could also be helping to relax your tissues. Already get plenty of mag, Clove oil worked without the gel, the gel just helps it to absorb and dry faster. You might want to look at a shoe insert that holds your arches properly as 'foot fatigue' can contribute to plantar fasciitis as well. Done that inside out and upside down, did have to use gel arch support when it was at it's worst but got past that. DB
RE: CSDMSO
No, only that I smell like DMSO. It used to make me really reek but that stopped after I got enough infection/fungi/parasites out of me. _ From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Renee Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO Hey Bob. I see you've been taking the DMSO orally again. Is there any problem with the smell factor now? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Something else- try dissolving the B12 (and other B's) in a little DMSO, then add that to grape juice, then take that on an empty stomach. Works MUCH better than transdermal. Same works for Vitamin C too. I've done it by mixing L-Ascorbic Acid with sodium bicarbonate to make sodium ascorbate and mixing it with potassium bicarbonate to make potassium ascorbate, then taking either of those with DMSO and grape juice. It all works.
RE: CSDeodorant
I've been using zinc oxide (Desitin) for years now as my only deodorant. I can't tell any kind of excess zinc uptake symptoms from it and I actually take supplemental zinc from time to time to help heal various sprains and such. Now I DO have a problems with tingling mild numbness in both left hand and left foot but both are old problems from old injuries and drinking enough water helps both; they both come back to full feeling most of the time. The hand goes numb when I sleep, it's from a neck injury and the feeling comes back with water and movement. The foot goes numb from too much walking especially in certain shoes, it's a hip injury and the feeling comes back with rest. Nope, don't think zinc is causing it. BTW, in winter sometimes I can skip a day of underarm Desitin or maybe even two days if it's cold enough and I don't sweat. The action lasts that long even with daily washing so long as I don't over-scrub the underarms. I used to have a terrible, awful problem with underarm odor. I used to have to trim my underarm hair every month all year round. With my first taking of ionic silver back in 2000, that was fixed, and from then on it was just regular common daily bacterial underarm odor that I had to deal with. After that I was able to control it with Mennen Speed Stick deodorant only, not anti-per spirant. And then I tried many alternatives to save money and stop filling up the landfill with plastic. Zinc oxide in any form is cheap cheap cheap as a deodorant. One tube lasts many months. My next trick will be to get a pound of the powder and make my own with some mild oil or petrolatum. Only one downer I've found- Zinc Oxide mixed with sweat on certain manmade fiber shirts can actually make an odor that mimics bacterial underarm odor. It's not bad, it leaves as soon as it dries, and it's on the fabric, not the skin. DaddyBob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Ode Coyote Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDeodorant Excessive zinc absorption can cause nerve problems. [ Numbness or tingling] Some denture adhesives contain zinc and have been pulled for that reason...but it takes long term exposure to absorb zinc faster than it can be eliminated and skin doesn't absorb anything as fast as a palate. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO
He said that a DR at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain relief was due to DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near you. Typical scare tactic crap from the white coated priests. I have been rubbing DMSO on my right foot for weeks to both relieve pain and accelerate healing. It was actually not very effective for my severe plantar fasciitis but the pain sure came back after the DMSO wore off and truth be told it never did too much to relieve this pain. If this were true then you would end up with a numb spot. BTW, Oil of Cloves DID work, and I discovered it is much more potent at going through the skin and subsequently through the body than DMSO. Only problem is that the first urination after application was painful, burning urethra, but that quickly subsided. Something else- try dissolving the B12 (and other B's) in a little DMSO, then add that to grape juice, then take that on an empty stomach. Works MUCH better than transdermal. Same works for Vitamin C too. I've done it by mixing L-Ascorbic Acid with sodium bicarbonate to make sodium ascorbate and mixing it with potassium bicarbonate to make potassium ascorbate, then taking either of those with DMSO and grape juice. It all works. _ From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of brick...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDMSO I told my foot DR that I was taking a sublingual B12 crushing it add DMSO then rubbing it on my hip. Four parameters on my last blood test all showed large blood cells. I also take folic acid daily. I took Prilosec for years that is noted for causing large blood cells. He said that a DR at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain relief was due to DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near you. I also use Brooks formula EIS/DMSO/Glycerine on my TKR surgery. 12 weeks post surgery and still have a scar. I also use DMSO/EIS with my sinus wash and tooth brush. Any reports of nerve damage caused by using DMSO? Brickey
CSTurpentine- suggested protocol
I'm trying to make this as definitive, concise and up to date as my experience will allow. This is blunt. The whole protocol is blunt. I mean this protocol kills disease like killin' snakes as we say here. This is for people who really want to get well and are not in love with their diseases and conditions. Do NOT do this if you have known kidney problems. You simply means me and is only a figure of speech. I'm talking to myself here and what anyone else does is their own business. I'm not going to rehash how to identify all possible variations of turpentine out there. It must be made from wood, NOT petroleum. It should be made from pine, not other light woods, but any wood turpentine will do for starters. Pure pine turpentine works MUCH better, as I just found out 4-5 hours ago. I will not discuss the new pine source publicly, you must contact me off group for that. Please do not post the source publicly. Turpentine kills disease so fast that you WILL HURT from taking it and you will have die-off effects. Always skip a day between doses. Maximum dose is 2 teaspoons inside of 7 days. Turpentine MUST BE TAKEN ON GRANULATED SUGAR. Do not argue. No other sweeteners. Don't ask and don't do it. Don't use powdered sugar. Don't use large grain raw sugar because it won't absorb the turpentine. If you are really sick you can start with brown sugar because it will not be as effective as on white sugar. However for maximum effect it has to be taken on WHITE SUGAR. Don't ask, don't argue, just do it. After you get comfortable taking it on brown, you have to switch to white sugar. There is also merit to the idea of starting this with Wood turpentine since its effects are not as strong as good pine turpentine. Sugar cubes are ok to start with but quickly become a problem to chew and swallow at larger doses. There must ALWAYS be some dry sugar after you add the turpentine to it. If your sugar is completely soaked with turpentine sprinkle more sugar on it until some stays dry. Always wash it down with pure water, nothing else. You can start out taking it after eating a small meal to help defray any initial nausea from any disease in the stomach lining. You must however mover towards taking it on a totally empty stomach 8 hours minimum after eating, It matters how sick you are to start with. If you are quite ill, you should start with a DROP. You stay at a dose until you no longer feel effects, two drops, then 3 and so on, then 1/8 teaspoon, then 1/4, then 1/2 and finally one full teaspoon. Put sugar on a large spoon, add turpentine on to the sugar. When you get to full teaspoon doses you may need a large serving spoon. When you get to the serious end of this, using full teaspoons of turpentine on white sugar on a totally empty stomach, do not eat for at least 2-3 hours after taking it, but you can drink hot liquids. However, be aware that hot liquids will then potentiate the fumes that are still rumbling around in you. It's all over in a few hours. Turpentine is fully metabolized and excreted in 20 hours. Sometimes you will have chemical-smelling BM's afterward. It is assumed this is die-off, particularly aldehydes from fungus. Especially in the early days of doing this you may get kidney aches. Govern yourself accordingly. Back off, drink lots of water and take sodium bicarbonate. There are many detox protocols that go well with this, taken no sooner though than 12 hours after a dose so as not to clean out the turpentine too soon. We have found that following up with oral MSM or DMSO go well with this but do NOT take them with the turpentine. It needs no help. It would be wise to have done an MSM and/or DMSO detox first. Do I need to say don't do this with any scrip drugs in your system? I hope not. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLoblolly Turpentine
We've hit the Mother Lode of turpentine info! I just got off the phone with the seller of the really high quality turpentine that I just got and took this morning. He is, to say the least, enthusiastic about his product. He figured something was up when he saw orders start coming in and he actually called Sharon/Starshar to ask why she ordered. It went from there to me calling him and talking for, well, long enough for my ear to get numb;) Once again, we should not name him or his company publicly, we should just pass the link off-groups privately. He will not be taking part in any public discussions to protect his own interests. He was already fully aware of the alphabet agency problem and was already aware that turpentine is highly coveted by some people who are in the know as to its medicinal qualities. Some misconceptions to clear up though... It's not from Georgia. The pine trees most likely originally came from Georgia but were transplanted to Honduras especially for the making of high quality pine resin products. He says the trees can be either called Slash or Loblolly. My little understanding is that Slash pine is a different subspecies of Southern Yellow Pine. Well, all four of the subspecies are known to make the best turpentine so what the heck. DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTurpentine- suggested protocol (UNCLASSIFIED)
Would this work for toe nail problems. Probably, but you may have to do it internally and externally. You can mix turp and sugar and apply it externally but you don't dare bandage it or it will leach the turp out of the sugar and it will burn skin that way. Yeah, I did it. External protocol is usually 2/3 castor oil and 1/3 turpentine, leave on as long as you like and bandaging is ok with that mix. I have a daughter using that facially right now to clear acne. DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTurpentine
I'm playing catch-up after getting back home and canning corn, okra and tomatoes Anyone who wishes to learn more about my experience with turpentine should join my group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Crock_Lakhovsky/ Not trying to gain members or followers, just don't have as much time to post all across a lot of groups like I used to. Also don't have time to rehash everything I've gone through and learned since I started experimenting with turpentine in late May. If you join the group and go to the files, look for the Turpentine file and you should find a pdf of all the turp discussions in June, and maybe from the very start, that was very diligently and thoughtfully compiled by Rowena Evans. She's planning to do the same for the July discussions. My own experiment with it is drawing to a end because it has apparently done for me what nothing else ever did, finally get rid of just about everything that was making me sick. It as not been without drawbacks but I've mostly figured those out. However, my wife is still using it and may be for some time. Same for at least one of my children. I will be posting about all that as time goes by. This is NOT for anyone and everyone to rush into willy-nilly. This emerging protocol is so powerful that it will make you HURT. There is also a fine line between therapy and poisoning with turpentine. Caveat Emptor. DaddyBob
RE: CSTurpentine
One more thing- If you are like me, a learning addict, then you better jump all over any info about turpentine from using it to making it as fast as you can. There is no turpentine made commercially in the US anymore, hasn't been since 2001. With the decline of the dollar and various other events on this globe, who knows how long we will import it. China supposedly stop exporting it and what we're getting now may be mostly from Brazil. The old time way to make it can be learned at http://www.valdosta.edu/turpentine/ You better grab that info because budget problems in Georgia may shut that site down. The first video called Capping no longer works but I found it at YouTube. My experience has been that this has been the far best thing I have ever done for infection, particularly fungal. Right now it is still very simple, easy and cheap to do. If turpentine disappears from the marketplace or is purposefully adulterated, I've already figured out how to make my own from the aforementioned site. DaddyBob
CSTurpentine
I'm still here. OK, yes, I have done oodles and bookoos of alternative alternative things for 11 years this summer to get rid of the infections that were plaguing me. The last one was a fungal infection that I caught in the summer of 2003, a really mean, slow growing and tenacious thing. I suspect it of also being the thing that has caused a lump in my wife's left breast. I am short for time now, we're soon leaving for the weekend and I can't explain it all that quick. There is someone else who actually gave me the info to start with. If that person decides to say something, then y'all go at it. I'll see if I can take part in any discussion this generates when I return. Yes, it's turpentine, plain old turpentine that you buy in a hardware store. It is by far the most effective thing I've ever done but it is most certainly not without drawbacks and undesirable effects. Most of those are from the extreme die-off of pathogens. I've had plenty of Herxheimer reactions before, but the Herx from turpentine can knock you off your feet, and no it's not from turpentine poisoning IF YOU ARE CAREFUL AND DO IT CORRECTLY. DaddyBob
CSLipo-C, homemade, question for Brooks Bradley
Brooks- My wife and I have had a lot of success making and taking our own Lipo-C by your methods and thank you very much for all the work you do and post here. I understand that you have mostly nixed the idea of using common kitchen blenders for this purpose but I wonder if the same opinion extends to very high speed blenders such as the Vita Mix? I recently purchased a nearly unused 30 year old Vita Mix 3600 for $10 in a thrift store. It would please me no end to be able to utilize it in this fashion and pass my ultrasonic cleaner on to our youngest daughter, with Lyme, at college. Thanks, DaddyBob
RE: CSLypo-spheric vitamin C
Pat wrote: Have any of you had stomach pains or worse? The first two times I took my Livon lipospheric C, I felt a little queasy... Just a few days ago I was given info that some people simply do not react well to vitamin c or at least don't seem to get much benefit from raised intake of it. My wife has taken 4 packs a day of the Livon product now for over a month with nothing but good results from it. Go figure... DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT boron and borax
Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj I've done it for a few years now, no negatives particular to the borax and finger method, except this- I did three different methods to the edge of excess just to see what would happen. I separately did the finger in the borax, took a boron supp, and drank a lot of Bragg vinegar (organic apples are rich in boron). All three, to excess, gave a funny feeling after about 2 weeks. Boron is not something to overdo, a little goes a long way. The borax method is my favorite. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, Id love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question
I don't want to just blithely call this a Herx, but most likely you have pathogens fleeing the onslaught of the Lipo-C and going to the skin to try to survive. My very first experience with such a thing was from my first few doses of CS, made from Ode's Silverpuppy, back in early 2000. Since then I've become an old hand at it. It is often aggravating, sometimes disgusting and never any fun. DaddyBob
RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary
Brooks- For those of us who are already doing this with an ultrasonic unit, and we are using L-Ascorbic Acid per your original instructions, should we now convert it to sodium ascorbate prior to encapsulation? Thanks, DaddyBob
RE: CSiodine allergy?
Chuck- I rarely say never but this time I meant it. I will never accept that there is such a thing as an iodine allergy. More about that herein. In the meantime, I can totally accept that your wife has a reaction to Betadyne, which is a pharmacological product, not elemental iodine or a natural iodine compound. There are iodine products which are known to be poisonous with continued use such as amiodarone and the dyes used for myelograms. No argument there. Sol- I am well aware of your iodine problem and that you have been pronounced with an allergy by the medical establishment. When I posted my assertion I knew you would respond to it. I was not baiting you but I knew that you would rise to this. I have never had a quarrel with you and don't wish to now but... Consider this- that you have allowed someone else, an Expert, to tell you who and what you are, instead of deciding for yourself that, yes, I have a problem, but I'm going to find a way around it. And, by being adamant that there is such a thing and that there is no way around it but extreme avoidance, that you may be standing in someone else's path of healing. I maintain that you have not found the way around it yet. I'll be the very first to admit that reactions to iodine can be extreme because I had extreme reactions to it for a very long time. I have never let a doctor tell me anything is incurable, unbeatable, etc and I have beaten many things that they said could not be beaten. I was told that I would have to have a lumbar disckectomy and a double cervical diskectomy about 6 years ago but I have beaten most of that and re-gained 3/4 of previously lost height. Nope the doctors aren't going to tell me a thing that I don't want to hear. I am convinced that my wife has some argyria in her fingernails. Do you see me harping against CS/EIS anywhere? Actually, she still uses it in emergencies, just not prophylactically. My proposition to you is that you should try to start finding ways to beat the problem, not defend your limitations. Other than that, it's your business. But I'll say it again. I will NEVER accept that there really is such a thing as an iodine allergy in humans. I waited to post this after Steve Foss sent his message on the subject. Yes, I'm aware that iodine allergy is supposed to be quite common, but again, I'll never accept it. There's a way out. I may not know it, you may not know it, but there's a cure, a fix, some how some where some way. Same for sunlight allergies. That brings up our experience with vitiligo, a well know incurable condition. I had a Doctor to stiffen his back at me once when I doubted his word that there was no cure. It took years but we did find a doctor who was able to cause a significant regeneration of skin pigment on our son's neck and arms. (Don't anyone quiz me too much on this, that was before PC's, the doctor moved and I lost all the info.) BTW Steve- The Lew Rockwell article is really good. My wife is well over 100 mgs a day of iodine right now and we've been thinking about going higher so this article really interested me. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSiodine allergy?
some people are allergic to iodine and shouldn't take supplements of it. dee I'll never believe that, or at least not that way. I'm not denying that REACTIONS don't occur but they can be from a plethora of reasons other than actual allergy. We are all born with a gland that needs iodine so how could we ever be truly allergic to it? There is something else going on, maybe a lot of somethings else but I think allergy/allergic is entirely the wrong wording. I have had many, many reactions to iodine that could have been wrongly interpreted as allergy. I'm so glad I forged ahead with it. DaddyBob
RE: CSMy adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.
For some reason I cannot take iodine What iodine have you tried? What happens when you take it? DaddyBob
RE: CSMy adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.
But is it a good thing for any and all supplements? Don't we need a little discrimination here? Del is right. We are abounding off into unknown territory here. Be careful. Some things are SUPPOSED to be digested. I have intentions of doing the technique on a particular product myself but when I do I will take miniscule amounts of it to start with. DaddyBob
RE: CSFw: [DMSO] CS + Selenium
Don't know if this will help, but my wife is taking the methylselenocysteine form of selenium to improve iodine utilization and it very obviously has increased her skin absorption of iodine as she has painted both breasts with iodine nearly every day now for months. It is obviously- to us- a superior form of selenium for supplemental use. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIodine, was My adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.
I have tried Iodoral and Lugols. ... I know you have mentioned how well magnescent works and I have considered that but I hate investing even more money if it makes me feel bad. Sandy- The last time I ordered Magnascent I ordered a lot and the maker sent me several sample bottles. I've been giving them away and have just a couple left. If you will send me your mailing address off group, I'll send you one and tell you how to start out very slowly on it to see if it will get you over this problem. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Encapsulation- Chuck!
Chuck- You need to spread this around or give some of us permission to do so; as you know this idea is now on many groups. I didn't get to try to make mine yesterday, first day that I could have, and now I'm glad I didn't. Will be doing it your way shortly. DaddyBob -Original Message- From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of cking...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation ??? I was successful. The first time, partially. The second time, completely. Harbor Freight device as in Brookes article... What I do is dissolve the three tablespoons of lecithin granules in a cup of water. I do it in a blender. They dissolve completely. Same thing with the ascorbic acid crystals (1 tablespoon in 4 oz of water). Combine them in the ultrasonic device. I ran it for 6 two minute cycles. WALA Chuck Microbiology Lab: STAPH ONLY! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Encapsulation- Chuck!
Just made it. Worked great. Realizing that Brooks simple test for encapsulation is not enormously accurate, I figure I got over 50% encapsulation and that's good enough for me for something this easy to do. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSC grows on trees
Dan wrote: It grows on trees (bushes actually). See rosehips. Hey folks- I have so much going on that I just can't be everywhere and had to drop participation here a while back. (Sorry Craig for not getting back to you but I will sooner or later.) Someone forwarded Brooks' post to me and, because of my wife's issue with a breast tumor, I was nearly ecstatic about it. A friend and I have ordered a case of Livon Labs Liposomal C and we're splitting it. Friend has a retail business and license so Livon sold wholesale to her, but be it known that they won't do that unless you can prove you have a retail biz. Another friend found out that our local Harbor Freight store has the ultrasonic cleaner on sale right now and she's getting one for me and one for herself today. Now about C growing on trees...Yes it really does and most of you will be stunned to learn just how easy it is to come by: pine needles. Any species. Google pine, needles, vitamin C, tea, soup. I was originally sent this info by the same friend who alerted me to Brooks recent post (Thanks Renee!) but I forgot about it. My recent focus on my wife's health, plus my general interest in survival, made me start looking around again for what would be the best source of C in a SHTF scenario. Well here in the eastern Carolinas, that sure won't be a problem. A handful of pine needles has as much C as 5-6 lemons. White pine is supposed to be the best but any pine will do. We are overrun with Loblolly here. You can eat them but who wants to do that. Best to make a tea. Cedar is supposed to be nearly as good. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSC grows on trees
How would you prep the pine needles ? It seems they would have a strong, resin taste ? I haven't done it yet but will try to do it soon... The needles are edible, directly, but of course we're not ruminants and not set up to efficiently digest such. You bring water to a boil, remove heat, throw in needles and let steep for a few minutes. Google pine tea or pine soup and you'll find several recipes. The resin is in the wood, not the needles. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSudden UTI Success
Friday evening 6-19-09: My wife wasn't feeling too good when she got home and said she felt irritated down there. She has been taking 75-100 mgs of Lugol's for her breast lump then early this week switched over to Magnascent when we got the new 16 oz bottle of 2%. Eventually it came to light tonight that she made a mistake and was taking 10 drops 3 times a day instead of 5 drops, since we are using 2%, not 1% Magnascent. Friday we also got our first bottle of Cayce/Hoxsey Blood Cleanser from John at Magnascent and she took her first 1/2 tsp before supper. By 9:30 she had a full blown UTI. I think all the iodine was forcing the bacteria out of her system into her bladder. By 9:45 she was worried about having to go to the ER for emergency ABX's. It was obvious to me that iodine was not the cure, at least not this time. I went to the computer to look up my files on UTI and found Brooks Bradley's suggestions for Colloidal Silver, Gatorade and DMSO. She started on 1 oz CS every 5 minutes, then I ran to the store for some Gatorade and she mixed and drank about 2 oz every 5 minutes of 1/3 CS, 2/3 Gatorade and one drop of DMSO. By 10:30 it was not getting any worse which was real good news. 10:45 she took two Alka-Seltzer, supposed to be good for a UTI but not advertised as such. I got her some cranberry juice but she had not taken it yet as of 10:55. (She didn't take it at all that night.) By 11 pm it was not getting worse. She went to bed by midnight with irritation slightly decreased. Sometime during the night it was almost all over. By Saturday morning she still had just a little twinge or irritation. By Sunday it was gone altogether. This is the first such sudden UTI she has had since we have been into alternatives, for 10 years now. Before, she could have a UTI attack anywhere, anytime and would have to call her doctor to get an emergency ABX scrip. I think this happened because of iodine and MSM together forcing out dormant pathogens, which were not going to leave without putting up a fight. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe nocebo effect
if you send anything out off list regarding the 'emotion potion', I'd love to receive the info as well. Ruth- I'll go ahead and make the source of the emotion potion public here, since there's no real secret about it anyway, it's jus that discussing this subject will go both OT and WooWoo real quick. The subject will also interfere with the religious beliefs of some and that is so totally not my purpose or my business. The product is called The Gift and is available from www.smart-minerals.org. It is made by Farrell Brenner and his site is www.farrellbrenner.com. DaddyBob
CSIodine (was nocebo effect)
Craig- THANKS VERY MUCH for that! Ok, you've triggered something now so here's the onslaught... Although we are very active iodine takers, taking both Magnascent and Lugol's, having definitely found that there is a need and use internally for both energized/ionic/monoatomic iodine (singular atom iodine that does not often occur naturally) AND potassium iodide (2/3 of the content of any Lugol's solution of any strength), I had not heard yet about that particular protocol and I can assure you we will give it a go. We have plenty of Lugol's on hand, having been able to purchase some 5% and 7% before the laws were changed. I also know where to get crystalline K Iodide and that is totally legal. Questions: In the taking of Lugol's, do you think that it is the I2 doing the work, or the KI, or both? (I know that KI is needed for the normalization of breast, heart and prostate, at the very least.) Also, what are the other supps suggested? BTW, I am on that iodine list but have missed this somehow. Stephanie is doing a dynamite job over there. She must be able to type 1000wpm. More to come in Iodine part 2... DaddyBob Craig wrote: A very strange side effect of taking a high dosage of Lugol's Iodine (much easier to do with Iodoral tablets) @ 25mg-75mg/day is that these fibrous tumors disappear, disolve...often within two weeks. On the iodine list I belong to, this is reported again and again by women...and it also has happened with my wife who is 56, after ten days at 25mg. The treatment is simple, although not without side effects from the detox. The detox is the result of the iodine displacing the other halogens from the body: fluorine, bromine and chlorine. There are additional supplements required. There is a huge body of research on taking high dosage iodine, that has been done with little or no downside...except for the detoxing side effects. I have been taking 50mg for eight months...my age spots have disappeared, skin has become softer and my gray hair is turning back to a light blonde...and my hypothryoidism is under control with just the iodine (I am 62). The list is iod...@yahoogroups.com: The focus of this list is hypothyroidism and thyroid cancer, but they discuss all iodine related issues...it is very active...and the list owner is quick to stop any off-topic discussion due to the volume. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSIodine
Steve- This is not confusing at all. This is GREAT information! THANKS! Question: May I forward this to the moderator of the Yahoo Iodine group and may I post it on any other groups? If so, do you want your name on it or not? DaddyBob
CSFW: SOWas The nocebo effect...Now: To WooWoo and beyond
Hey Craig- I'll try to put the rest of it together tonight or early tomorrow. Thanks, DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe nocebo effect
Just a doctor telling someone they are going to die can kill them. The modern witch doctors wear white coats and carry stethoscopes. HEAR, HEAR! We are working on dissolving a lump in my wife's left breast that I think is a fibroadenoma. That's a big word for a fibrous tumor, usually benign . The White Coated Priest did a needle biopsy, The Priest's assistant, (the pathologist) did not find cancer but said he *thinks* there could be some cancer (big DUH, since we all can have cancer found in our bodies on any given day). The Priest came back to us and solemnly intoned his judgment, that he *thinks* she might have cancer and she needs to go under the knife right away. IT SCARED THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF HER and boy did I ever have my hands full with her emotions then. Now for the good news. It scared her straight. She has never been so serious about her health and now, 6-7 weeks later, it is really beginning to show. The lump is smaller now but if it is indeed a fibroadenoma, its going to take a long time to dissolve completely. In the meantime- there really is a potion to deal with emotion and we're both taking it, but that's a subject to go off list. I knew not to go to the Priest. I knew what he would say. Thou must have an exorcism by scalpel then thou must be subjected to fire and poison to be purified. What I didn't count on was what it would do to her to hear it. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS-Sulfur granules
How do Guinea hens chickens get along ??? Friends or enemies ? Good enough to mate and produce offspring. You'll be told that can't happen but I've seen with my own eyes, 32 years ago. It appeared to be a male but we suspected it to be a mule. It did not produce offspring. Funny looking thing with a guinea body and a chicken head. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: Calcium deposits
DaddyBob recently posted on his success at using several magnesium based protocols to do so. - Steve N Of course I'll be never be able to say exactly what did and did not happen, especially since I had no before and after images, but I do *think* that magnesium bicarbonate via the 2 powders method, did remove some calcification in my brain. Of course it is akin to using a roto-rooter to do so and often felt like it;) DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate
Mike wrote: Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you did this mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking... When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing with (digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to information you've found useful? I think either or both of these therapies may end up being part of my own path to recovery. Hey Mike- Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days. Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and preferably not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4 hours since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. I did it at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep and because some of these effects demanded being still. I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast lump that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to scare her into immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here especially because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're going alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing everything she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps and such scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them. There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is confusing, but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act: www.braggzyme.com. It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they don't totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William Wong, over and over and decided this was for me. We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were pleased with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was timely. My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort. Supposedly they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase which is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it. Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate
Dan wrote: For the second method. Why do you have to take them separately with the three minute interval? Why can't you just mix them together in water and then take them? The method was hinted at by Mark Sircus in one of his newsletters. He seemed to make it sound like he was going to expound on it in a book, but someone who bought the book didn't find much more about it than his original hint. He seemed to have something against the Seltzer MoM method and said that the 2 powders method was more controllable. To me after my experience, that would be like saying a pair of pliers is more controllable than tweezers. Anyway I was already learning how efficacious the Seltzer MoM method was at that time and was eager to try the new method after I was no longer progressing with the original method. So I just jumped in and figured it out for myself. I'm assuming that there is a different reaction if you mix the two powders together in vitro rather than in vivo. I experimented with the time interval and came up with the 3 minutes as optimal for my needs. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate
I'm sending this to many groups. I apologize for all the duplication but there are just too many good groups and not everyone can be on all of them. This experience turned into so much more than I ever dreamed it would and it was so incredibly easy and CHEAP that I have to relate it to as many as possible. Besides, I've promised this to more people than I can remember now so this is the best way to get back to them all. Please do me a favor before emailing me with a question. Please read it again to be sure I haven't already answered it. I'm terrifically busy these days but if you have a question that I have not covered, I'll be glad to try to help. I have now done several months of Magnesium Bicarbonate ingestion, first by the Seltzer MoM method, then by what I call the 2 powders method. I will recap how to use the two different methods. The methods at a glance: 1) 1 liter of Seltzer water chilled for minimum 2 hours, uncap and don't shake, add 3 tablespoons Milk of Magnesia, shake well and check it and shake it until there is no settlement. This is a concentrate. Suggested dilution into distilled or purified drinking water (no chlorine) is 1/3 liter to one gallon water. 2) Magnesium chloride flakes, grind to a powder, keep very dry and well sealed in zip lock bag or good storage container with double sealing lid. Start by taking on empty stomach, once daily, 1/8 teaspoon, wait 3 minutes, take 1/8 teaspoon of baking soda. Be still for about 15 minutes when you start doing this, taking note of any funny feelings. Work up to 1/4 teaspoon daily doses. I found no reason to go higher and actually found too much to be detrimental to blood calcium levels. First method is like a family car, but even then it's like a cantankerous car. Second method is like a monster truck, not for the faint of heart. Be aware that both can cause quite a bit of pain and discomfort in calcifications lodged in the circulatory system and can do so within 15 minutes of ingestion. The second protocol is much more prone to do this. If you do this, you take full responsibility for your own actions. There is the possibility of EMBOLISMS. Fortunately I did not have that to happen. Both can cause pain and even looseness in calcified joints after dissolving that calcification. For alleviating that, you have to learn joint nutrition, which is way too much to discuss here. This helped greatly with my heart arrhythmias although I still needed more iodine, especially potassium iodide, to beat that. I actually started down this road to alleviate heart arrhythmias. Boy did I ever get more than I bargained for and it was a really good bargain. This helped with my blood pressure although the primary thing that lowered my BP was my focus on both natural and supplemental forms of vitamin C. I'm 55, still overweight, but my BP is running 125 or less over 80 or less. Lately I've seen it as low as 120/78. I just could not have believed this would happen a couple of years ago. Back then I was regularly at 155-165 over 80-90. The first method did wonders for my left hip though for two days it made that hip hurt exquisitely; I'm very accustomed to the idea of No pain no gain. It will HURT when calcifications are dissolving. I continued on with the second method when the first was obviously doing nothing else for me. Boy was I ever NOT disappointed. Everything after this point is about the TWO POWDERS METHOD. On two separate occasions, I felt something happening in my head, in my brain. I knew it was my brain because there was no pain. All I can say is that it was a weird feeling and that the brain gets calcified too. Those two instances were by far the scariest thing that happened to me. They happened on successive nights (I did this mostly at night) and never happened again. They happened when I was taking 1/4 tsp of the 2 powders. Honestly, the first time that head thing happened it scared me pretty bad. I thought OK Bubba you've really gone and done it now, you've given yourself a stroke. Well for all I know it could have been a mini-stroke but there were absolutely no negative effects otherwise. I just felt strange for a few minutes, that's all. Everything still works. I also had several instances of burning, near-pain sensations in my heart, chest and carotid arteries. This was usually one place at time, one night at a time. It seemed to start in my heart for a few night, then moved to my carotids, then to my chest. Eventually I felt nothing at all from taking as much as 1/2 tsp of each powder. The effect on my left hip, which has been a problem for me for a very long time, started with the MoM method. Surprisingly, that method yielded probably 75% of the overall total of good effect that I got in my hip from both methods. Now I have no pain in that hip to speak of anymore. Although I can tell it is not as strong as my right, it's getting stronger almost daily. For the most part, that hip is no longer a big drag on my life now.
RE: CSBest Teeth Whitener Found...FOR PENNIES.
I would bet dollars to doughnuts that this protocol would also stop or greatly reduce plaque formation, caries, and help with tooth root infections. Especially I bet it will stop plaque and since I have a problem with it on my front lower teeth, I'm going to have to try this. Daddybob
RE: CSColon cleanse
What is the natural way and or CHEAP way. Brine, on an empty stomach. Fast, Cheap, Easy. Done in about 2 hours. If you don't want a colon cleanse then don't do it on an empty stomach. Want cheap easy natural Viagra? Brine, not on an empty stomach. I use Jeveda salt rocks, 1 part salt by weight to 4 parts water by weight. Weighed in ounces this means 1 ounce of salt: 4 ounces water. (Must be non-chlorinated.) Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCan't sleep? Try some voltage.
Back when I used my homemade BE units, both my wife and I loved the sleep they induced. Unfortunately I developed what seems to be a permanent irritation response to it. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSerrapeptase update....
and while I have a couple of spirochetes floating around Linda- Are you a Lymie? Your post caught my eye because I am doing several anti-calcification protocols right now with great success. However, our youngest daughter has Lyme and we have reason to think that it is attacking her teeth. Do you have any experience or knowledge of this? Thanks, Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSReams Lemon Water
Marshalee wrote: Whoa! Tell me quick, what is the lemon thing?? Here's how we did it... First you need a citrus juicer. We have manual juicers to take with us when we travel but at home we use an electric Proctor Silex, the best one for the money that I've found. Check thrift stores, we got two for $5 each. Needed some cleaning but I'm not lazy. All lemons seem to work, big or small, bitter or sweet but the larger sweeter ones sure are more pleasant. Always do this on an empty stomach. Don't eat or drink anything for at least 15 minutes afterward. I started with a half lemon first thing of a morning, cut the lemon and wrapped the other half tightly in plastic wrap and a rubber band around the cut edge, put it back in the fridge. Then I added about 8 ounces of water. ALWAYS unchlorinated water! After about 2 weeks I started doing the other half of the lemon in the afternoon. From there I worked my way up to 2 whole lemons a day, 16 ounces of water with each one. My wife never went above a whole lemon in the morning and we both now do fine with a whole lemon between us in the morning, 5-6 days a week. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1924 - Release Date: 01/29/09 17:57:00
CSswollen legs
If the cause of swollen legs is edema, then magnesium chloride did not help my wife. Inclined Bed Therapy did help her immediately. It also helped my painful knees. Then we discovered much later, while traveling and unable to sleep inclined, that with or without IBT her legs and my knees were better. It took some reading to understand why but eventually I learned that my knee pains were edema too, just not seen as swelling. Then more reading made me realize that edema is, at its core, scurvy. We had taken up the Carey Reams lemon water protocol and made a morning ritual out of it. That did away with our edema, both her swollen legs and my painful knees. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/29/2009 5:57 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRemoving biofilm
Yes, we're good. I'll admit I kinda blew my top. I'm with you on the crackpot ideas with MMS and that's where I was coming from too. I guess we collided on the same track. I was particularly bothered by a suggestion on one group the other day about nebulizing MMS. Although I'm still not anti-MMS, I've decided it's irresponsible of me to deny any longer what MMS did to me. That being said I'm not going to turn this into any more rant on my part. I'm done ranting for this year. Shouldn't be too hard since there's only 9 more days to go;) Bob -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRemoving biofilm Nah, I didn't mean you Bob. I was ranting 'cause I've been reading a lot of posts lately about people suggesting really crackpot ideas using MMS. MMS needs a LOT of respect and always some basic research. Sorry. We OK? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLeslie- magnesium
Leslie wrote: I am looking for a good type magnesium to take. What is this you took? Anyone with ideas. I have a magnesium chloride but think it is achemical as it is melting and I have muscle spasms with it. Leslie- Your magnesium chloride isn't melting, it is hygroscopic, meaning it pulls water to itself, it's pulling it out of the air, and it is turning into a slurry. You must keep it well sealed and some containers work much better than others at that. Mag chloride does not do so well as an oral supplement. There are several forms of magnesium that are better for oral use, the easiest, cheapest form to get and take is magnesium citrate, available for a good price at www.msm-msm.com. There are other forms that work better but will also cost you more such as orotate and glycinate. Citrate gives you a lot of bang for your buck. Chloride form is better used as magnesium oil where you dilute it in 2 or 3 parts of water and rub it on, or use it for foot or whole body soaks; magnesium chloride is best used transdermally. I am familiar with how mag chloride can actually cause muscle spasms and have had it to do that to my heart. That may be related to how other chlorides will do the same thing but I don't know that. BTW your spasms may be an indication of a need for the other three primary elements, sodium, potassium or calcium, or may be a need for water. OK, I'll let the cat out of the bag now, without much explanation yet, but magnesium bicarbonate is BY FAR the BEST way I have yet taken magnesium, with the best results and so far no bad side effects, especially no laxative effect. It also is the CHEAPEST. I'm sure I'll eventually find the downside but right now it's real good for me. Recipe: One liter of pure carbonated (seltzer) water, no other minerals or sweeteners added. Generic is fine. One bottle of Milk of Magnesia (MoM), generic is fine. 3 gallons (3- 1 gallon jugs) of drinking water, distilled is not necessary (unless you're a calcium magnet like me, and most women are not) but it must not be chlorinated and fluoridated. Chill seltzer for 2-3 hours minimum. After chilling the seltzer, don't shake it, uncap, add 3 tablespoons of MoM, cap it, shake well, set it down. For the next 30 minutes shake it a bit every time you see settlement, do this it until it clears. Measure out ONE THIRD, 330 milliliters, and mix that into one gallon, or 3 liters + 660 ml. of drinking water. You need a container that holds over a gallon for this. Drink to your heart's content (literally, because it's wy good for the heart) you'll find it surprisingly sweet tasting, but you better not go anywhere important unless you can get to a bathroom for the first few hours. After the initial flood of urination, the ionic magnesium begins to penetrate your whole body and you will actually gain weight from rehydration. Also, if you have anything that hurts, for a day or two it may hurt worse while being detoxed. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1861 - Release Date: 12/22/2008 11:23 AM
RE: CSRemoving biofilm
Chuck- I thought you were around and listening/reading when I went through all my troubles with MMS. Who are you preaching to? I've had Humble's books from the start. I've done MMS right side up, upside down, backwards, forwards and sideways. I've tried hard not to cause a controversy about it and I really can't believe it's you saying this because you should remember what a time I had with it; you were active on both MMS groups at the time. I tried solving the problem at hand. It seemed to work, then I found out that my infection was coming back no matter how much MMS I took. MMS is dangerous. There, I said it, finally, and I'm not backing down from it. I will never recommend it to anyone and you should remember that I was as enthusiastic about it as anyone, about a year ago. There are better ways to deal with sickness. MUCH better ways. I'm done with MMS. Now I don't know what I'm going to do with the 2 kilos of sodium chlorite I have because I bought into he idea that the FDA was going to take it away. They don't have to. Too many people have wised up already. I'm still glad I tried it because of what it showed me, but I'm sure not glad of the damage it did to me. People take note: take MMS at your own risk, the risk of destroying your circulatory system. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1860 - Release Date: 12/21/2008 3:08 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRemoving biofilm / MMS dangers
Nenah- Early in my alternative turn I took H2O2 orally. It was burning (literally) infections out of me right and left, then one day it made me so sick I thought I would have to go to the ER. Never did that one again either. I do agree that small amounts of MMS will probably be OK. Nevertheless, it is not a healing agent and I have since found things that are, as I listed before. I just think we'll all be better off to urge people to use things that deal with infections without killing the host. Because of my experience, which brought me once again to the edge of the ER several times, I cannot in good conscience recommend MMS anymore. It is difficult to convey in words just how bad my problems were after taking MMS. At the time I said very little about it on any groups because I didn't want to worry my e-friends and I sure didn't want to get in any go-see-a-doctor arguments. I was scared! I couldn't walk 100' without stopping to rest and recover from the pain in my chest and arms. CoQ10 has most definitely been instrumental in my recovery. The plain bald fact is that I think it probably saved my life one day when my heart was very near stopping. Hawthorn has been a bit problematic for me. I have taken Hawthorn berry supplements with no discernible effect. I have soaked dried hawthorn berries in alcohol and eaten a couple of pounds of them with no real discernible effect. However I did have a very discernible effect from taking Cardi-Plant Pro which is a standardized hawthorn supplement made from the leaves and bark, not the berries. I think the makers of that product must know something the rest of us don't and I intend to get more of it. I've tried dozens of alternative substances to feed and nourish the heart. Cayenne kept me going but the effects are temporary. I disagree with Schulze's premise that cayenne can cure congestive heart disease, yet I still take it nearly every day. Strauss drops are heavy on the hot stuff but they have other things in there and I do intend to get some sometime. My latest victory with my heart comes from homemade Magnesium Bicarbonate Water and increased iodine; I am now taking orally both Magnascent and Lugol's and the results of all three of these things has been tremendous. I may not get to say much more about this for another week with all we have to do with family right now, but when I do get ready to write it up I'll post it here as well as some other groups. Daddybob _ From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRemoving biofilm / MMS dangers Daddybob, Thank you again for sharing with us your unfortunate experience with MMS. The damage to your blood vessels reminds me of similar effects in people who receive hydrogen peroxide IVs. Such IVs must be done with great care, and by an experienced physician, as H2O2 can cause similar damage. Now I understand why, as they apparently are similar compounds. That said, small amounts of MMS may be okay for selected folks—indeed, I’ve heard glowing testimonials from some users—but obviously, it’s not a “magic bullet” or a “cure-all.” Two very healing nutrients for the circulatory system and heart are Co Enzyme Q10 and Hawthorne Berries. Some people have had very good results with Strauss Heart Drops; you can Google it. Blessings to you, Nenah
RE: CSRemoving biofilm
They discuss removing biofilm from water systems using chlorine dioxide (MMS) or ozone. I thought that was interesting, as it could also apply to the mouth. Nenah- Keep in mind that I can't prove a word of this... Long story short: I started MMS in September '07 for a mild right upper toothache. In very short order, MMS was burning out a biofilm that stretched from the the top my my right sinuses and all through my right sinuses, down my right Eustachian tube and into the top right quadrant of my heart. I had no idea that it was there. Alas, my infection eventually became resistant to MMS and began to come back despite my increasing doses of MMS. Eventually I could not handle the nausea and I do think that overuse of MMS will deplete vitamin c and other nutrients and cause oxidative damage. I ended up with severe angina from it. I have since successfully used other protocols, most notably including lemon juice, iodine and DMSO to kill off this infection and to reclaim my circulatory system. My MMS experience is similar to my silver experience and to my experences with various electro-devices: initial success then failure. I'm not knocking any of them, they all bought me time while I continued living and learning. What I have discovered for myself is that all that is said by the followers of Bechamp appears to be true for me, that I could not get well until I treated the terrain correctly. For me that meant ions, vitamin C, iodine, magnesium, salt, various trace elements and minerals and of course good food. Also had to quit coffee. There's more but Christmas is closing in fast. Daddybob
RE: CS11th Hour TV show
I saw this too. They did not give a blanket endorsement for colloidal silver. The storyline was that a government scientist had bio-engineered a bacteria to kill the gang-rapists of his daughter. He engineered it with a genetic switch to die when treated with silver. Before his death he gave up the secret. They injected the innocent victims with CS and it turned off the bacteria. Nevertheless it seems that someone in screenwriting/production must have had an agenda to get the words colloidal silver in front of the public in some positive manner. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSuccess!
Indi- Would you please repost or refer us to the actual post of Brooks' which started you on your recovery? Although I have a lot of this list in archive, I haven't been able to figure out which post it was. There are folks here that do not get all of this list because of problems with their ISP's, particularly Comcast, and can't find that post. Thanks, Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRaw milk souring
My raw milk always sours before a week is up. I only use about 8 oz a day in my whey shake. Wayne and I are tough guys. If my raw milk sours I just drink it too. Sour raw milk becomes buttermilk and is actually 100% utilized by the body whereas fresh raw milk is about 85% utilized. Of course when it gets too far gone even I don't like it. However, naturally fermented milk (that's what it is) is generally not as tasty as milk that has been purposely inoculated with a tasty culture. The farmer I buy raw from makes his own very tasty buttermilk, but if you just let his milk sour it won't taste that good. Even if you make a buttermilk culture purposefully and naturally, as I have done, it's not as tasty as a bought culture. Not knowing where you are or who/how you get your milk, here's some advice... If the farmer only milks once a day the milk will not stay fresh as long. If the milk doesn't go through a flash cooler it won't stay fresh as long. If this is an unregulated farm then there's a better chance that the cow has some infection and the milk won't last as long. Even if it is regulated, the upper limit for somatic cell count is very liberal and the milk won't last as long as if the SCC is at the lowest feasible limit (about 200,000-250,000) The raw milk I get is regulated, has an SCC of less than 250,000, is flash cooled, and cows are milked 2-3 times daily. If kept BELOW 40F, it has been known to be fresh tasting for 60 days. The farmer guarantees 30 days IF the milk is kept BELOW 40F. Keeping it below 40F is not as simple as it sounds. You cannot guess at it, you must have a thermometer, and it must be kept in a fridge that is not opened often. 40.1 F does not cut it. But guess what- you can FREEZE the milk, or a portion, as soon you get home with it, and it will keep for months. I would suggest at your low usage to freeze it in pints or quarts. After thawing, run it in a blender to get the lumps out of the cream. Hand/stick blenders are better for this. We do it all the time. The KitchenAid hand blender is excellent for this because the business end can be put in a dishwasher. Any one-piece stick blender needs to be soaked in bleachwater or H2O2 after having it in milk. Daddybob
CSKelp question
Best place I know to ask this and I sure hope Brooks Bradley will weigh in. The problem is the question of arsenic in kelp. I'm eating Thorvin Laminaria Digitata. It is rated at less than 3ppm arsenic. The government says foods should contain not over 2 ppm. Thorvin Laminaria Digitata is supposed to be the best and cleanest kelp in the world. I am finding better effects from taking more kelp than I've ever taken before. I'm taking ususally two heaping teaspoons a day (regular eating-size teaspoons) My initial reason for doing so was to get more greenery in my diet, which is a problem for me as I tend not too get enough greenery. I've tried all kinds of green powders and pills and kelp agrees with me much better than anything else to date. The surprise was that I got more energy from it. I sure don't want to overload on arsenic. It is supposedly 4 times more poisonous than mercury. However I do realize that the word arsenic covers a broad range of compounds, some that may pass harmlessly through the body, and some of which may actually be good for the heart. I am also aware that eating sulfurous foods and supplements supposedly will take out arsenic. I take both DMSO and MSM, but not too much of either. I eat lots of eggs, almost all raw or lightly cooked, so I'm supposedly getting plenty of cysteine, which also suppposedly takes out arsenic. So- how does one determine the likelihood of arsenic poisoning in such a scenario? Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSQUESTION; Treatment for Subclinical Hypothyrodism
Sounds like another made up diagnosis to me. No, it's not, not trying to be argumentative here, but subclinical simply means it's not really bad enough to require clinical intervention. In other words, you got it but you're still functioning pretty normally. One of the first signs of hypothyroidism is waking up cold, no matter the room temp, nightclothes and bedcovers. I had it bad several years ago. Waking up cold means waking up in a knotted up state and that compounds any arthritic problems. From the first time I ever took Laminaria Digitata Kelp, that never happened to me again. The wife and I seem to be beating our (self-diagnosed) thyroid problems. We have not seen doctors for this. We're not going to. They have one of two cures, animal thyroid powders and synthetic hormones, especially the latter. We're definitely not doing the latter. We are beating our problems with Kelp, Magnascent Iodine, many forms of magnesium, avoiding municipal water and now the latest, we're cutting out black and green teas because of the fluoride content. We've had a lot of good things to happen lately. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSciatica, coconut oil
Or you could think about coconut oil with its myristic acid. Coconut oil is one of many things that help with many arthritic problems. When I get stiff, one of the things I have to keep coming back to is coconut oil. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 9:09 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSWhey-insulin
I think that is dependent on the whey product you take. Duncan is a strong proponent of COLD PROCESSED, UNDENATURED WHEY ISOLATES, which is actually a small segment of all the whey products on the market. most of those products being concentrates and processed with questionable methods. I am currently losing a little weight as I keep taking MMS, but I'm taking a pretty fair amount of two whey products that he highly recommends; also I am back to making kefir and straining out the whey to drink it and disposing of the cheese. If whey made me make more insulin, I don't think I'd be losing weight. Daddybob Hi all, maybe in particular, Duncan because he is such an expert on whey; I've just read a Widepedia article on whey and they say it increases insulin production. Now I had always understood that this was a bad thing. Any comments? Dee No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM faint_grain.jpg
CSTransdermal Magnesium Made Easy
Plastic Dishwashing Tub big enough for your feet. My choice is a Sterilite 18 quart. Electric Heat Pad under it. Warm water with Nigari dissolved in it. Soak your feet for 20 minutes. Get a cheap porcelain stewing pot*, a strainer, and a white cloth, pour magnesium solution through cloth/strainer and into pot to save. Warm it gently in pot before next use. Add more water and Nigari as needed. You probably need to make it totally fresh after a few days, but I don't know how long yet. This is the most wonderful thing I've ever done for my feet and the magnesium goes throughout your body. Forget expensive foot spa tubs and expensive foot soaps and solutions. *The porcelain is to avoid any metallic interaction when heating the solution. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMagnascent is now easier to order
No, I don't get paid for this, just a very happy customer. John Brookshire has re-done his website, www.magnascent.com. It now has a printable order form with his address, and he has apparently dropped Paypal (Good for him!) and now takes credit card orders over the phone. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1030 - Release Date: 9/25/2007 8:02 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMMS and caution
This is a copy of some of a post I sent to two groups yesterday. MMS info is apparetnly sweeping through every alternative health forum now... The stuff in question is MMS or Miracle Mineral Supplement which is a 28% solution of Sodium Chlorite, which is activated by interaction with acetic acid or citric acid, then is ingested and becomes Chlorine Dioxide in the body. (See Marshall Dudley's explanation.) This stuff is ENORMOUSLY powerful and unfortunately, can be DANGEROUS by virtue of the fact that it can strip arterial plaque out so fast that it doesn't allow any time for healing of those arteries. How do I know? Because I've done it, and am having heart trouble right now because of it. This is not a negative post. Before launching into this, do not do so without getting and reading the second book, where the author does warn about this very thing. I didn't understand. Now I do. Before doing this, if you have the slightest notion that you may have any heart troubles, or even if you're older than 30, build yourself up first with a full range of L-Ascorbic Acid and natural Vitamin C containing products like Acerola Powder, and/or at a lot of citrus fruit if you can handle it, for at least 2 weeks previous to taking MMS. Also load yourself with potassium and magnesium first. Once you start MMS, it *may* destroy Vitamin C in your system, so it may be best to take MMS only once a day, and take the C products on the other 12 hour side. C in the morning, MMS at night. MMS can induce the most extreme of Herxheimer reactions. I have bought activated charcoal and have Bentonite Clay on hand to deal with the Herx when I have my next run at MMS, which won't be for another week at least, maybe longer. Now to the specifics of how MMS can cause heart trouble: The arteries of the heart, the ones that deliver blood from the heart to the heart, those arteries collapse with every heartbeat. Without enough vitamin C and collagen*, they weaken at the stress points. The body packs cholesterol onto these weak places. The cholesterol becomes pathogen infested and turns into plaque. Chloride Dioxide attacks and strips this plaque, exposing the weakened arterial wall beneath. Then you have problems. All of this is in book two, but perhaps not warned about harshly enough. (*I have just started taking Super Collagen by Neocell, and it also seems to help my heart.) In just a very few days, MMS exposed and killed a large infection in my right sinuses. I knew I had it but I had no idea how truly bad it was until the MMS went after it. Don't jump into this with both feet and go splashing around. Don't be stupid like me, and a few others. MMS is great stuff, but so powerful that you must use caution with it. Now, don't anybody get all worried about me. I'm fine. This has been a learning experience for me and I do believe I'm going to emerge from this even stronger. I sure am smarter already;) Daddybob PS- Somebody is going to come back and say I'll never take that. Well, I am going to take it again. This is in no way to be construed as anti-MMS. It's just a caution. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMMS
Most definitely. It ripped an infection out of my right sinuses like nothing ever has. I suspect I had a biofilm in there. But now I'm going to make a cautionary post, because too many people are coming into this late, and there is reason for caution. Daddybob _ From: m1mar...@aol.com [mailto:m1mar...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS What I am not hearing is, has anyone noticed any beneficial gains, from ingesting MMS? _ See what's new at HYPERLINK http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170; \nAOL.com and HYPERLINK http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169; \nMake AOL Your Homepage. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 9/16/2007 6:32 PM
RE: CSRe: Scabies
Daddybob, thanks for info - what is best way to take it ? - Richard You don't *take* DE for scabies, you apply it externally. You can take food grade DE for intestinal parasites, but you never take pool grade DE internally. BTW, my own recommendations for EXTERNAL use of any actual pesticides such as Sevin (Carbaryl) or Permethrin are to be taken with a huge dose of caution. I can apply Sevin to my body but a couple of days of it made me feel woozy. I can't take skin contact with Permethrin, it irritates me and makes me itch as bad as scabies. Ode suggested an OTC Lindane medication, and I'd bet Lice Spray and/or Lice shampoo would work, but I can't have any contact with Lindane. I killed Termites in a building with Lindane once and I couldn't go back in it for a month. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM
RE: CSVitamin C Plus Fat Might Spur Cancer
Everybody needs to remember that we have been sold a bill of goods about Vitamin C- namely that Ascorbic Acid is Vitamin C, and that only Ascorbic Acid is Vitamin C. The medical name and the mainstream definition of Vitamin C is Ascorbic Acid. In part, we have Linus Pauling to thank for that. Ascorbic Acid as we get it in supplemental form is not a natural product, it is synthesized. Some contend that Ascorbic Acid in nature represents about 5% of the total spectrum of vitamin C compounds. I suspect that this study is rigged one way or another, and given the true nature of what we've been led to believe- that Ascorbic Acid is all there is to Vitamin C- this result was probably not hard to predict or get. Just this week I finally decided to drop my standing order of Ascorbic Acid powder from the Vitamin C Foundation, whom I regard as a fine outfit. We got on standing order while treating Lyme, and I probably wouldn't hesitate to do it again should the need arise. But I'm ready to go more natural for my vitamin C. I ordered three bottles of NOW Acerola Powder from Amazon. Oh and one more thing, Any of you regularly taking ascorbic acid or any mineral ascorbates (made with ascorbic acid) might want to do some homework about where your ascorbic acid originated from. A lot is coming from China. Anybody heard of any problems lately with Chinese stuff? We learned the hard way in this house that cheap ascorbic acid can make you very sick. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM
RE: CSRe: Minimizing Herx reactions- recipe
Simon- How about some product or supplier recommendations? I think I'm gonna do this. The herx's are telling me that I must go deeper, but I can't afford to lay around to recover, besides the fact that laying around drives me nuts. Thanks, Daddybob -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 8:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Minimizing Herx reactions- recipe Will you share your recipe, please? Thought I already had, but there's really nothing to it... 1:1 clay:charcoal ratio, so 2-4 teaspoons (of ea) in 8oz of pure water... Adjust according to your own needs/wants, it isn't a big deal... The only three things to be aware of: 1. the more you add, the thicker the slurry is 2. the more you add, the more chance it has for causing constipation 3. drink in between food/nutritional supplements - won't hurt anything, but it will ad/absorb a good deal of them, resulting in wasted money and less ad/absorption energy available for the toxins No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Scabies
Diatomaceous Earth will kill Scabies mites. Even Pool Grade DE will kill them. If this person has it all over, that's really going to be tough. Common insectide dusting powders like 5% Sevin Dust will kill them fast but may cause some reaction. Permethrin Dust will work even faster but may be very irritating. I would do those only for a very few days, then switch over to plain DE. Plain DE will get them, just slower. The treatment must go on until all eggs are hatched. The itch will last for 2-3 weeks because of detritus buried in the skin. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM
RE: CSMMS and CS - Magnascent - To Dee
But what if this is *not* a herx and it is your body telling you it is unwell? Dee I've enjoyed (?) a lot of herxes in the last few years. All I can tell you is that this is identical, but man-oh-man can this stuff ever throw you into one doozy of a herx. I had a lolapalooza of one yesterday but refrained from making it worse by not taking any MMS last night or this morning, and now I'm fine. Had to drink alot of water. Carol Ann: This is for those who use Magnascent. How many drops...in what? Water, juice, straight up? Wife and I do 4-6 drops in 4-8 ounces water. You can put it into juices to hide the iodine taste. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM
RE: CSMMS and CS - Magnascent - To Dee
Dee- This has nothing to do with your husband's depression or medications. Not trying to be insensitive to that, but that is not germaine to this discussion. The Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction is a well proven and documented phenomenon. Those of us who have experienced it are well able to recognize it and deal with it. Nobody is twisting your arm to take MMS. If you don't want to, don't. Daddybob -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMMS and CS - Magnascent - To Dee To me this would mean that this is not good for me, and I would stop taking it. I have never really gone with this 'herx' reaction because I always remember when my husband was ill with a nervous breakdown, and they kept on giving him different anti-depressants. Each one made him feel worse than the one before and he just refused to take them. The doctors said that he would feel better if he would only let his body 'get used' to the medications in six to eight weeks. To me this is wrong, and the body is telling you quite clearly that this is wrong. As it turns out, with all the bad press for Prozac and the like, I think my husbands body was quite right! Dee No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMMS and CS - Magnascent - To Dee
OK, I got back exactly what I thought I would get back. Since you have come on this group you have been very consistent with your behavior. I really didn't want to mess with you, but went against my better judgement. You're not here to learn, your not here to contribute, you're here to argue and/or to get attention. You will get neither from me. Daddybob -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMMS and CS - Magnascent - To Dee I have no intention of taking it, nor any desire to stop anyone else from taking it either. I just think things should be approached with caution, especially when there are indications that not everything is going well. Although there may be documentation to probe the Herxheimer reaction, it is not *proven* that this is it, although it could be. I don't think people should jump down others throats just for not having the same conviction about a subject as *they* do, and should be able to take on board another point of view, without getting annoyed. Dee ---Original Message--- From: ransley Date: 09/07/07 17:38:34 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMMS and CS - Magnascent - To Dee Dee- This has nothing to do with your husband's depression or medications. Not Trying to be insensitive to that, but that is not germaine to this Discussion. The Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction is a well proven and documented phenomenon. Those of us who have experienced it are well able to recognize it and deal With it. Nobody is twisting your arm to take MMS. If you don't want to, don't. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAn even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Oh goody- another food fight! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 8:36 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMMS and CS
Chuck wrote: Well, Today (day 3) I felt something! Three bouts of the runs and a vomiting session. HooHaa, my first herxhimer reaction ever! Suggest following the ramp-up protocol on this. I was about to say yesterday when you told about taking 30 drops twice, that you really do like to jump in with both feet and splash around! If I had done that, well I just can't imagine how much it would have hurt, considering what it's been doing to me. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 8:36 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Heart palpitations
Actually it's lack of potassium that causes my heart palpitations rather than lack of magnesium, but they both work so hand in glove. Magnesium is particularly effective for my chest tightness. Cheap, easy magnesium for this purpose: Magnesium Citrate. Cheap easy potassium for this purpose: Potassium Chloride in the form of Salt Substitute, in any grocery store. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM
RE: CSAn even easier way to eat raw eggs
Daddybobyou're killing me! I'll admit, I posted this while laughing maniacally at the thought of the comments I'd get back. MWAHAHA! DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM
CSAn even easier way to eat raw eggs
Just perfected this today. Break egg into cup, tilt it to lips, keep lips nearly closed. suck the white right off the yolk and quickly swallow it, leaving only the yolk in the cup. Then you can chew the yolk just a bit before swallowing it. It is the whites that are slimy and this works to get them done with quickly. The yolk is slightly bitter but not bad, even sort of tasty this way. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM
RE: CSRaw Eggs, Milk, and Sunshine
How to eat raw eggs: First, the eggs need to be from outdoor chickens that haved eaten bugs and there must be an active rooster in the flock. Smoothies and such are the easy way. Over agitation reduces the effectiveness of raw eggs but any way is better than no way. It is the yolk that is good for you. Always crack an ungraded egg into a cup first. If the yolk isn't whole but not smelly, save it for cooking. This does not include a yolk that isn't whole because you broke it while cracking the egg, and it's easy to tell the difference. 2nd easiest way: separate yolk from white by encircling the yolk with a spoon and dragging it over the lip of the cup into another cup; now scramble it a bit with a fork and drink it down; chase with whatever you like, even bourbon. Hey, bourbon goes great with raw eggs; what do you think eggnog is? But raw milk is better. Raw milk, raw eggs and good bourbon are great at night. Leave off the nutmeg, it's not good for anything. If you need sweet/spicy, use vanilla, cinnamon, honey or agave nectar. Also a great time to mix in whey and colostrum. Maybe drop the bourbon for that. 3rd easiest way: same as above but just suck the whole yolk down but allow it to break up on your front teeth for easier swallowing. 4th easiest way: whole egg, suck it downs and break the yolk on your teeth. Hard way: several at once, tip your head back and swallow hard and fast. Whatever way you do it, you will notice a kind of strength that you do not get from any other food, and your sinuses will dry up. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Iodine
You're welcome. Yessiree folks, pow pow pow POWERFUL stuff! Daddybob -Original Message- From: Simon Jester [mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Iodine This is admittedly one are where my knowledge is lacking, so hopefully someone else with more knowledge will chime in... The best form of iodine that I have found, thanks to 'ransley' (thank you sir!) on another list, is something called magnascent. It is much more potent and bio-available than Lugols, which is what I had been using/recommending before... http://www.magnascent.com It is much more bio-available (so much less is needed), and still available as far as I know... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSIodine
Ruth wrote: Is there an iodine therapy for an under active thyroid that works for any of you? Magnascent has been incredibly stimulating to my entire system. It has literally made my thyroid gland feel like it's crawling around in my throat. I have to back off if it every once in a while because of that. It has given me strength and stamina like nothing else has, BUT, I've taken, done, take and do so many things that all those things may have just paved the way for my results. Many things that have happened to me from taking Magnascent can be explained by endocrine system stimulation, but the one thing I am at a loss to understand is why it made my knees so much stronger. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/976 - Release Date: 8/27/2007 6:20 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSteeth sensitivity
By the time I was 45 (53 now) my gums were receding. I was using K-nitrate toothpastes when I was in my late 30's. Dentist checked me every six months for receding gums and I got to 4 on scale of 10 in many places. It all stopped the day I started rinsing with CS over 7 years ago and he no longer checks me for receding gums. I use NO commercial dentifrices. Lately, I'm experimenting with brushing my teeth with nothing but Hydrogen Peroxide, but only long enough to get them clean, not brushing hard, always the correct stroke direction, and rinse well. Once a week I add Diatomaceous Earth to the protocol for a thorough cleaning. I floss religiously at least 2 times a day and keep Brushpicks with me every where I go. NONE of this info came from my dentist. He can barely keep from rolling his eyes if I tell him what I'm doing. He has never admitted that what I'm doing is working, but he knows better than to mention flouride to me. If you want good dental health never use a commercial dentifrice again. I do use JJ Reach flosses, both rope and tape. Both have Cleanpaste on them and I despise that but I can't find another floss that works for me. If anyone knows of a rope floss with nothing on it, and a non-teflon tape floss with nothing on it, I sure would like to know. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 8/25/2007 5:00 PM
RE: CSVaginal infection/ need help for my wife
To all: Kefir douching and oral D-Mannose appear to be working. We had kefir and figured it was as good or better than yogurt. The kefir douche was the first thing that noticeably gave her some relief, but by then she had already taken a considerable amount of D-Mannose. Thanks very much to everyone who replied. All replies from all groups have been saved in what is now a rather large file considering the response I got. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.4/969 - Release Date: 8/23/2007 4:04 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Need help for my wife
Vaginal ozone insufflation would knock crap like this out in no time. Charles I have come not to doubt that. It's just that $2000.00 is never handy when I need it, and when I do have it, nothing is wrong enough to make me want to buy the unit. So far we've done extraordinarily well with many low expense treatements for many things, but I know, we have got to bite the bullet and buy one of these things. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNeed help for my wife
A situation has arisen. Wife has a vaginal infection. Feels to her to be identical to last one a few years ago that was identified as E. Coli. She says it's not yeast, not Urinary Tract, and not kidney. What we've done: I mixed Colloidal Silver, made it into Goldenseal tea, added MSM, DMSO and iodine, (this is the same basic solution that finally nixed my very aggravating hot-weather-only eye infection) and she used it as a douche, four times a day for 2-3 days now. She has drank a lot of 50/50 CS and Gatorade and a lot of pure cranberry juice. The infection has neither worsened nor got better. We can't let an e.coli infection go for long. If something doesn't work fast, it will have to be back to the doctor for antibiotics, which will of course destroy her gut culture that we have worked on. Good news- this has finally gotten her to agree to take cayenne and learn to drink kefir. Resistance is Futile! She took her first 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne in water this morning, and didn't have a bad reaction to it. I'm making fresh kefir now. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/966 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 9:05 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPlantar Warts
MA- Our oldest daughter got rid of hers, after all the failed doctor visits, just by drinking CS made in our silverpuppy. Daddybob -Original Message- From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSPlantar Warts Anyone have any good suggestions for the removal of plantar warts? My neice has them -- has had them frozen *off* -- and they're back. Any help appreciated. MA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/966 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 9:05 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNeed help for my wife
All suggestions are being investigated and pondered. Some will take longer than others to procure substances and instigate. The thing that has been suggested that is most immediately available to us today is Dr. Schulze's garlic treatments, so we're headed that way for now. I guess it's a good thing that she likes garlic. Thanks to all, Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/966 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 9:05 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNeed help for my wife
The ladies best friend is a live yogurt douche. Do you think Kefir would be as good? Maybe better? DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/966 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 9:05 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSmag chloride
Cheap easy way to get mag chloride and get sea source trace minerals to boot: Google Mitoku Bitterns. Buy a pound. Grind the flakes to powder in a cheap coffee grinder. Stuff is horribly bitter but highly effective. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/961 - Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM
RE: CSmagnascent iodine
DB: The Heritage Store is selling Atomidine antiseptic, 2 oz for $10.95. They say it is the original Cayce formula. Where do you buy yours? Thanks, Jess HYPERLINK http://www.magnascent.comwww.magnascent.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.17/951 - Release Date: 8/13/2007 10:15 AM
CSWhat can I do with an over-large aloe vera plant?
Eat it. Fillet the skin off the leaves, but do that over newspaper because the liquid that is between the skin and the inner gel will stain everything it touches. Rinse that gooey liquid off of the clear inner gel, then eat the gel or put it in a smoothie. If you don't rinse that liquid off, you will have a massive bathroom visit very quickly. Other than that, the gel is exceedingly good for you. And once again, don't let that liquid touch anything you want to keep. First it turns bright yellow, then grey. It will stain a cutting board and take many months to come out. Daddybob -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:na...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:46 PM To: CS Subject: CSWhat can I do with an over-large aloe vera plant? I have a very large aloe vera plant that I have been growing for several years. It is getting over-large for it's pot, and because of the weather it can't be planted outdoors, etc. Is there some way I can process it? How should I use it up, since I don't want to waste it? Dan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSZeb- here it is again
Zeb wrote: Bob, I use magnesium glycinate and was wondering if you think the chloride form is superior and why? I am referring here to the use of mag for lyme and just for regular use. The citrate forms of minerals seem to make me very sick. Zeb- I'm not qualified to answer that except to give you feedback on my own experience with three forms of magnesium. Magnesium chloride is a salt, as such I suspect it is antiparasitic much like sodium chloride. Maybe I need to pour some on a slug and see what happens. After many bouts of killing off my own problems, first with CS, then with Beck Blood Electrification, I finally- long story missing here- experimented with salt and found out I had parasites. I can no longer accept any substance as being ultimately curative without going after parasites. I take M.Cl. as Mitoku Bitterns, a naturally harvested form of nigari from seawater. I grind the flakes in a coffee grinder then take the powder with a spoon. i also take somme mag citrate and some mag taurate. These are the only forms I've taken to date. Here's what they do for me Mag Chloride: no laxative effect, much better absorption into the body, very highly calming and relaxing, take too much I wouldn't give a hoot about anything. Not very good though for relaxing the stomach or interceding in heartburn, can even be a bit rough on the stomach. Tastes horrible and burns on the tongue. Mag citrate: good for heartburn, sleeping and as a laxative. Calming, but not nearly as much as Mag chloride. Tastes neutral. Mag taurate: not good for sleep at all, better to take in the day, not badly calming but good for heartburn and energy. Tastes bitter but not awful. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHow to cure an eye infection
Why not try CS ? Smitty Because CS never fazed it. As I said, NOTHING would touch it except Goldenseal Tea made from CS, and that wouldn't cure it completely. Only after the addition of Magnascent iodine did I get complete relief. CS simply does not cure everything. As for the iodine, what I forgot to say was that I have no idea if the same results could have been gotten from using Detoxified Iodine or Lugol's. Based on my use of all three of these iodine products, I'm never bothering with any form of iodine again as long as I can get my hands on Magnascent. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEye infection
I have used CS with great results and also goldenseal tincture in the eye. Smarts, but does the trick. Diane M I need to clarify- I have used CS alone to chase away several run-of-the-mill eye infections and styes. This particular infection was a really really different animal. I've never had anything like it. CS alone wouldn't touch it. Only one eye. Only above 95F outside (I work in construction). Repeated every year. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM
RE: CSHow to cure an eye infection
Daddybob, I did a search on Magnascent Iodine, not knowing how it was different from any other Iodine. See HYPERLINK http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/atomidine.htmhttp://www.mnwelldir.or g/docs/history/atomidine.htm for more info on curing problems w/Iodine. It sounds fantastic. Jess Yes, but be aware of the confusion surrounding the name Atomidine. The products named Magnascent and Detoxified Iodine are more like the original Atomidine, but the product that is labeled as Atomidine now is not the same thing at all. The link you gave is actually selling Magnascent but they appear to be using the name Atomidine as a draw. For a long, long time I thought it was all hype, but I found out different. DB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.15/949 - Release Date: 8/12/2007 11:03 AM
CSHow to cure an eye infection
First thing- I now suspect that you could stop just about any eye infection with a drop or two of Magnascent iodine into 2 ounces or so of saline solution or plain distilled water. Now here's the whole story, and some of you have heard it before, but this time I think I've really killed off this infection that only comes out in HOT weather. It was over 100 everyday most of this week in the eastern Carolinas, and the humidity was very abnormally high. I did not have the slightest flare-up of this infection after treating it very aggressively about 3-4 weeks ago. In the summer of 2003, I loaned my cellphone to an employee who had a very bad eye infection, and I caught it. It only manifested in the summer when daytime temps to or above 95F. It was only in my left eye. It made me want to pull out my eyeball and stomp on it. It ITCHED, OMG how it ITCHED. This was by far the worst eye infection I've ever had, mitigated only by the fact that it did not bother me if the weather stayed under 95F, so it usually did not bother me for 10 months out of the year. After the first summer, I learned to keep it under control with Goldenseal Tea made with Colloidal Silver, that was the only thing that worked. The problem is that Goldenseal Tea rapidly succumbs to mold and must be disposed and re-made every 3 days. Last summer after a thunderstorm that knocked out our power, I didn't have anything better to do in the dark so I laid a spiral wound copper tubing coil over my eye and started napping until the power came back on. I had taken my contacts out. After about 15 minutes that coil ZAPPED me! It scared the !#% out of me and I jumped up and threw it down. My eye stopped itching. In the next three days or so, I realized the infection was gone. At any rate, I learned a lot about etheric energy. Then I very stupidly put back into my eyes the old set of contacts and gave myself the infection all over again! This year when it came back on me I was really outdone. That event with the spiral coil was probably a once in a lifetime thing because it was probably powered by ions in the air after the thunderstorm. So I made my Goldenseal Tea again with Colloidal Silver and this time some MSM to make it more soothing. Then I added a couple of drops of Magnascent to see if that would stop the mold growth. I never thought about what the Magnascent might do for my eye. I stopped wearing my contacts, threw that set away, and started aggressively treating my eye again. Within four days I could tell it was gone although there was some residual irritation. That was over three weeks ago. I broke out a new a set of contacts after a week wearing glasses. The mess is GONE and the mixture I made never grew any mold. Daddybob, still hot but not itching. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: 8/10/2007 3:50 PM
RE: CSTo daddy bob and larry
Zeb wrote: Bob, I use magnesium glycinate and was wondering if you think the chloride form is superior and why? I am referring here to the use of mag for lyme and just for regular use. The citrate forms of minerals seem to make me very sick. Zeb- I'm not qualified to answer that except to give you feedback on my own experience with three forms of magnesium. Magnesium chloride is a salt, as such I suspect it is antiparasitic much like sodium chloride. Maybe I need to pour some on a slug and see what happens. After many bouts of killing off my own problems, first with CS, then with Beck Blood Electrification, I finally- long story missing here- experimented with salt and found out I had parasites. I can no longer accept any substance as being ultimately curative without going after parasites. I take M.Cl. as Mitoku Bitterns, a naturally harvested form of nigari from seawater. I grind the flakes in a coffee grinder then take the powder with a spoon. i also take somme mag citrate and some mag taurate. These are the only forms I've taken to date. Here's what they do for me Mag Chloride: no laxative effect, much better absorption into the body, very highly calming and relaxing, take too much I wouldn't give a hoot about anything. Not very good though for relaxing the stomach or interceding in heartburn, can even be a bit rough on the stomach. Tastes horrible and burns on the tongue. Mag citrate: good for heartburn, sleeping and as a laxative. Calming, but not nearly as much as Mag chloride. Tastes neutral. Mag taurate: not good for sleep at all, better to take in the day, not badly calming but good for heartburn and energy. Tastes bitter but not awful. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 8/3/2007 5:46 PM
