CSquestion for Jason
I have cleaned my SG-6 brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes. I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling. Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW. The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT. Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at the moment. I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when it shuts off. From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, and whether I have sparklies at any point. I don't expect to get a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no sparklies but I should get a much better product, right? I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just can't manage it anymore. what do you think? sol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion for Jason
Hi Sandee, lovely to hear from you, I believe our water contains all sorts of contaminants ie the reading of 350 or thereabouts before distilling. I believe it contains chlorine etc., but even so, it still reads '0' after distilling. I realise also that the meter is not accurate per say but accurate enough for that I would think. The CS I make is always, without exception, clear. I can go up to thirty but don't, I normally have it about 15. You take care Sandee and actually it's cold here, but not too bad by world standards I believeregards Dee Sent from my iPad On 20 Feb 2015, at 16:13, Sandra George oha...@juno.com wrote: Hi There Dee I think it depends upon the composition of the water - the study of water is very complex and very interesting, which is why I told you years ago that you needed to find distilled water with a “0 reading on the TDS meter, this was one of the first things I learned about making good quality colloidal silver.Your distiller is obviously a very good one, mine does not give me a reading of “0” all the time, so I am aware of the different compositions which the so called distilled water I purchase has, which sometimes causes me to have to do a double or triple distillation to get to as near a “0” reading as is possible.Of course you can make colloidal silver with a less clean water, however for me to do a distillation is not a problem as I do it over night, and then use it first thing in the morning sometimes it is still warm which of course enhances the process of making the colloidal silver by cutting down the time to get whatever reading you choose to have for your brew, mine I stop at 10 and then it settles over time in storage to 5 For my gel I run the process up to 20 and make the gel immediately to disallow for settle !The tricks of the trade. Take good care and have a wonderful day in that not too bad today weather over your side Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 20 Feb 2015, at 11:49, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just distill once. The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee Sent from my iPad On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:47, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I have cleaned my SG-6 brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes. I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling. Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW. The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT. Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at the moment. I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when it shuts off. From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, and whether I have sparklies at any point. I don't expect to get a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no sparklies but I should get a much better product, right? I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just can't manage it anymore. what do you think? sol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Exclusive IPO Reports The Must-Own Stock for The Future of Social Media http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/54e758a369a9758a37570mp10vuc
Re: CSquestion for Jason
Hi Sol: Yes, I always clean the container with hydrogen peroxide, then rinse with distilled water. Yes, your EIS will be completely fine. You don't have to go crazy to get a good end product, especially with the Silverpuppy or Silvergen. :o) ~Jason On 2/20/2015 6:47 AM, sol wrote: I have cleaned my SG-6 brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes. I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling. Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW. The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT. Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at the moment. I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when it shuts off. From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, and whether I have sparklies at any point. I don't expect to get a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no sparklies but I should get a much better product, right? I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just can't manage it anymore. what do you think? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion for Jason
Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just distill once. The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee Sent from my iPad On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:47, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I have cleaned my SG-6 brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes. I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling. Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW. The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT. Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at the moment. I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when it shuts off. From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, and whether I have sparklies at any point. I don't expect to get a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no sparklies but I should get a much better product, right? I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just can't manage it anymore. what do you think? sol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion for Jason
Dee wrote: Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just distill once. The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee Dee, I don't have to double or triple distill since I haven't had a distiller for years and years now. Might have been air contaminants or water contaminants. Ode and I used to discuss the issue a lot. But used to be my DW absolutely had to read 0.3uS on my Hanna PWT meter or I'd get CS that was not clear. I believe your meter must be a TDS, and I don't know what your '0' reading equates to on a PWT, but I know the range is different. Anyhoo, when my distiller was new, one pass did it, but as the still aged, it took two or more passes to get the DW pure enough. Funnily enough, I now get clear CS with commercial DW that reads up to about 3.0 uS. But in the old days, commercial DW here often read 7.0 to even 10.0 on my PWT. Made very bad CS. sol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion for Jason
Truthfully, I was a bit shocked at the condition of my brew jar. Silver was even plating out on the sides of the jar. And don't know why I didn't want to waste silver by cleaning electrodes. I'm 69 and have several sets on hand, more than enough to last out my lifetime and then some, LOL. It is easy to get into a rut when one is disabled, well easy anytime probably, but more so when disabled and in pain all the time. I certainly won't go crazy obsessed over my CS. Did that the first 2-3 years, and no longer have the energy for it. Thanks so much, sol Jason wrote: Hi Sol: Yes, I always clean the container with hydrogen peroxide, then rinse with distilled water. Yes, your EIS will be completely fine. You don't have to go crazy to get a good end product, especially with the Silverpuppy or Silvergen. :o) ~Jason --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion for Jason
Hi There Dee I think it depends upon the composition of the water - the study of water is very complex and very interesting, which is why I told you years ago that you needed to find distilled water with a “0 reading on the TDS meter, this was one of the first things I learned about making good quality colloidal silver.Your distiller is obviously a very good one, mine does not give me a reading of “0” all the time, so I am aware of the different compositions which the so called distilled water I purchase has, which sometimes causes me to have to do a double or triple distillation to get to as near a “0” reading as is possible.Of course you can make colloidal silver with a less clean water, however for me to do a distillation is not a problem as I do it over night, and then use it first thing in the morning sometimes it is still warm which of course enhances the process of making the colloidal silver by cutting down the time to get whatever reading you choose to have for your brew, mine I stop at 10 and then it settles over time in storage to 5 For my gel I run the process up to 20 and make the gel immediately to disallow for settle !The tricks of the trade. Take good care and have a wonderful day in that not too bad today weather over your side Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 20 Feb 2015, at 11:49, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Why do you have to triple distill sol! We have very hard water here and I just distill once. The water consistently reads '0' on my meter (cheap from Amazon) when distilled whereas it read over 300 before distillingDee Sent from my iPad On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:47, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I have cleaned my SG-6 brew jar (gallon) and installed brand new electrodes. I don't remember you mentioning if cleaning with peroxide is ok? Well rinsed afterward with DW, wiped dry with clean paper towelling. Electrodes wiped with paper towelling wetted with DW. The DW reads 1.7 uS on my PWT. Not 0.3 unfortunately, but the best I have at the moment. I have set the generator to the lowest setting, and plan to check tyndal when it shuts off. From there I will decide whether to stop at that point and check uS or raise the setting a bit and check again and so on to see how the tyndal changes, and whether I have sparklies at any point. I don't expect to get a 10 uS product with no or faint tyndal and no sparklies but I should get a much better product, right? I no longer have a distiller, so 0.3uS distilled water isn't going to be available, and to be honest, I don't see me ever getting another distiller and double or triple distilling to get the water down to that level. Just can't manage it anymore. what do you think? sol --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Exclusive IPO Reports The Must-Own Stock for The Future of Social Media http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/54e758a369a9758a37570mp10vuc
Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes
Bernadette.. this was a reply from Vicki Hood on this list a while back to a question about treating cataracts (had to dig it out). This was posted back in Nov, 2011. Maybe you can find the original discussion in the archives.. Lola H. did my own. Years ago i did the research and took the best of the research. tried it on myself and then dogs in need. Worked every time. Start 3or 4 x a day, cut back according to severity of the cataracts. Go figure---if it doesn't work (and it always does) it cannot hurt you. Buy gentle eye solution (nonsting) add 15% MS crystals. That would be 1 teaspoon for each ounce of eye solution. Thats not perfect measure but close enough. Keep everything clean as you can. Each eye, 1or 2 drops RAW flax oil (not from caps but from the fridge at the health store ---Barleans is good). 5 mins to half hour later drop or 2 of eye solution. The dogs i treat often have this goober grub in the corner of their eye after about 3 or 4 days. Cataracts come off in layers. Now this does not correct the nearsight or farsight like lens implant surgery. Sure does take that piece of white sheet off of dogs and my eyes. I like to keep it up for maybe 6 weeks after i have cut back to couple times a week. Even longer if you want. Save a dogs life. Many people cannot afford surgery for their dogs. The last dog i did was 16. It made a whole new tailwagger. i could see it. Dogs with pressure behind eye (glaucoma) usually have bulging eye. That hurts like the worst of migraine and needs meds from a vet. Please do not let them suffer. Cataracts and glaucoma are 2 different things. I am not medically trained. I love the best of the research i do. Just passing it on if you care to try. It worked for me and mine. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net wrote: Thanks everyone with your suggestions on cataracts. I will read up on your protocols and hopefully be able to make a well informed decision. B. Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck Protocol. Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also get a manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of devices from Sota over the years, and they are excellent. I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the pulser do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success against cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts. I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky. Victor On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from bruises to joint issues. Walter *From:* Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] *Sent:* Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes Yes lots of exercise. Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great grandchild. Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer. I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there. Husband and I don't sit still too long as there is always something to do. So all that said.I hope I don't have to start going to the gym! Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT -- *From:* Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM *Subject:* CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail
Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes
what are ms crystals? Mary On Sat, 10/25/14, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, October 25, 2014, 9:23 AM Bernadette.. this was a reply from Vicki Hood on this list a while back to a question about treating cataracts (had to dig it out). This was posted back in Nov, 2011. Maybe you can find the original discussion in the archives.. Lola H. did my own. Years ago i did the research and took the best of the research. tried it on myself and then dogs in need. Worked every time. Start 3or 4 x a day, cut back according to severity of the cataracts. Go figure---if it doesn't work (and it always does) it cannot hurt you. Buy gentle eye solution (nonsting) add 15% MS crystals. That would be 1 teaspoon for each ounce of eye solution. Thats not perfect measure but close enough. Keep everything clean as you can. Each eye, 1or 2 drops RAW flax oil (not from caps but from the fridge at the health store ---Barleans is good). 5 mins to half hour later drop or 2 of eye solution. The dogs i treat often have this goober grub in the corner of their eye after about 3 or 4 days. Cataracts come off in layers. Now this does not correct the nearsight or farsight like lens implant surgery. Sure does take that piece of white sheet off of dogs and my eyes. I like to keep it up for maybe 6 weeks after i have cut back to couple times a week. Even longer if you want. Save a dogs life. Many people cannot afford surgery for their dogs. The last dog i did was 16. It made a whole new tailwagger. i could see it. Dogs with pressure behind eye (glaucoma) usually have bulging eye. That hurts like the worst of migraine and needs meds from a vet. Please do not let them suffer. Cataracts and glaucoma are 2 different things. I am not medically trained. I love the best of the research i do. Just passing it on if you care to try. It worked for me and mine. On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net wrote: Thanks everyone with your suggestions on cataracts. I will read up on your protocols and hopefully be able to make a well informed decision. B. Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck Protocol. Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also get a manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of devices from Sota over the years, and they are excellent. I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the pulser do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success against cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts. I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky. Victor On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from bruises to joint issues. Walter From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] Sent: Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes Yes lots of exercise. Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great grandchild. Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer. I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there. Husband and I don't sit still too long as there is always something to do. So all that said.I hope I don't have to start going to the gym! Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT From: Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM Subject: CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever
Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes
Thanks everyone with your suggestions on cataracts. I will read up on your protocols and hopefully be able to make a well informed decision. B. Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck Protocol. Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also get a manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of devices from Sota over the years, and they are excellent. I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the pulser do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success against cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts. I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky. Victor On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from bruises to joint issues. Walter From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] Sent: Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes Yes lots of exercise. Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great grandchild. Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer. I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there. Husband and I don't sit still too long as there is always something to do. So all that said.I hope I don't have to start going to the gym! Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT From: Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM Subject: CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestion about CS and eyes
I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes
It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT From: Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM Subject: CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes
Yes lots of exercise. Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great grandchild. Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer. I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there. Husband and I don't sit still too long as there is always something to do. So all that said.I hope I don't have to start going to the gym! Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT From: Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM Subject: CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi There B - I use EIS to wash out my eyes both morning and evening before bed and when I wake in the morning - I was told some twelve years ago that I had cataracts and would have to have them removed, I found an eye drop perfected from Russia for their soldiers to see well at night, the drops are called Natural Cineraria and you can get them from Natural Opthalmmics, they are also available on Amazon - I also use MSM drops which take care of the free floating radicals - cataracts are caused from an over production of proteins by the body due to lack of exercise and or not ridding the body of toxins I go to the same eye doctors and they are totally at sea to understand how my cataracts have either gone or have been reduced and have no effect on my vision Happy testing I am now a happy 75 year old enjoying life Sandee Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops Topical Gel aliveagai...@yahoo.com On 23 Oct 2014, at 16:43, Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net wrote: I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com HP#174 Official Store Buy Intel#174 Core#8482; Powered Laptops Direct from HP for Our Best Deals! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/5449699ed55bc699e41e1mp07vuc
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Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from bruises to joint issues. Walter From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] Sent: Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes Yes lots of exercise. Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great grandchild. Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer. I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there. Husband and I don't sit still too long as there is always something to do. So all that said.I hope I don't have to start going to the gym! Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT _ From: Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net mailto:bernade...@pa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM Subject: CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Along those lines I would recommend the Magnetic Pulser from the Beck Protocol. Dr. Beck provided schematics for building it, but you can also get a manufactured model from Sota Instruments. I have used two sets of devices from Sota over the years, and they are excellent. I do not have any direct experience with cataracts, but I have seen the pulser do many amazing things, and read testimonials about its success against cataracts. That is what I would use if I had cataracts. I am also one that sprays my eyes with CS whenever they feel icky. Victor On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Walter Anderson walter.ander...@outlook.com wrote: Being related to circulation, another more expensive option is PEMT (Pulsed Eletro-Magnetic Therapy). Bemer has a video on YouTube about its effect on cataracts. I suspect a Rhumart might have similar effects as they both increase circulation. Not cheap, but we have found PEMT very useful for things from bruises to joint issues. Walter *From:* Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] *Sent:* Thu, Oct. 23, 2014 14:02 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSQuestion about CS and eyes Yes lots of exercise. Walk quite a bit with dogs, grandchildren and great grandchild. Work in the vegetable gardens and can, etc. all summer. I don't go to the gym as I don't like to go there. Husband and I don't sit still too long as there is always something to do. So all that said.I hope I don't have to start going to the gym! Sent from my iPad On Oct 23, 2014, at 4:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: It is my understanding that cataracts are related to circulatory issues... not moving the debris out of the lens. Do you get any exercise? PT -- *From:* Bernadette Burch bernade...@pa.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:43 PM *Subject:* CSQuestion about CS and eyes I am a 70 year old female in excellent health, and I do not take any medications. I do not wear prescription glasses. Today at my annual eye appointment the doctor said all was good; eyes changed slightly but still no glasses needed. He then said he could see start of cataracts, but nothing to worry about for a long time. My question is would a daily eye wash of CS help prevent any cataract formation? I do use CS eye wash when I get dirt or a bug in my eye to flush it out or when I wake up and would have some pasty eye feeling and this knocks whatever is forming straight out of eyes. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. B. Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ole Bob wrote: The History of Colloidal Silver Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy for plates and drinking vessels, and its use has been a source of protection from the ravages that affect the mass of humanity. Our pioneers would add a silver dollar to the milk buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so choose you can add a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of milk and it will not spoil for weeks. Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over ninety US letters patents of silver compounds for medicinal purposes. It was during 1917 that Dr . Henry Crooke conducted 2,000 tests proving that silver solutions would kill almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions could not be patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the American Medical Association. For those who want an in-depth look at the history of the use of silver for human well being I suggest that you visit the Google.com web site and enter colloidal silver . Another worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as their product has been approved by the FDA and the AMA. If the web site is selling a product be careful what you believe about their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best. Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest on the role that silver played in the building of the Burma road during world War II . Shortly after construction began everything stopped due to dysentery and diarrhea from the water supply. An English doctor gathe red up a number ofD batteries and silver coins, which he took to India. The coins were converted into wires about a meter long and one was soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver wires were placed in the Lister bags water supply with the batteries on the outside. In just a few days the medical problem disappeared and the road was completed. At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our water supply was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff water, and I was curious about the silver process. At my request the director of the research laboratory had his personnel prepare twelve petri dishes for bacterial culture growth. A water sample was divided into three parts. One part was used to make a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the untreated water, a second set was made for water that was stirred with a silver wire for two minutes, and the third set was made using water that had been stirred with two silver wires that were soldered to the ends of a D battery. What follows are my personal experiences while investigating the making of a silver product to be used for human consumption. The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight hours so that any bacteria present would grow. At the end of the incubation period the samples were viewed with results as listed on the table. Untreated Water: 1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth. 2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth. 4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria. Stirred Water: 1/1 had a few colonies. 1/10 had less than sample 1. 1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth. Electrolyzed Water: All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free. I returned to the United States in 1957, and in 1997 while browsing the Internet I encountered a silver list moderated by Professor Katherine Stevenson of the Jamestown College in North Dakota, which I joined. I soon realized that every list member had their own special way of making what they called colloidal silver, and there was little interest to arrive at a standard process. There upon started my investigation of the electrolytic process for making a silver product. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Michael Brown walk.run2...@yahoo.comwrote: Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't re call anyone prior to that. Anyone know? thanks, mlbrown
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This was Robert L. Berger (Ole Bob to us EISers) Dan On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Ole Bob wrote: The History of Colloidal Silver Silver has been used throughout history by the aristocracy for plates and drinking vessels, and its use has been a source of protection from the ravages that affect the mass of humanity. Our pioneers would add a silver dollar to the milk buckets to prolong the useful life. If you so choose you can add a tablespoon of your silver product to a gallon of milk and it will not spoil for weeks. Prior to the discovery of penicillin there were over ninety US letters patents of silver compounds for medicinal purposes. It was during 1917 that Dr . Henry Crooke conducted 2,000 tests proving that silver solutions would kill almost all pathogens. Since ionic silver solutions could not be patented, the Food and Drug Administration was moved by the pharmaceutical companies not to approve its use by the American Medical Association. For those who want an in-depth look at the history of the use of silver for human well being I suggest that you visit the Google.com web site and enter colloidal silver . Another worthwhile web site is at www.silverinstitute.org in Washington D. C. You will enjoy the www.silverlon.com web site as their product has been approved by the FDA and the AMA. If the web site is selling a product be careful what you believe about their product, as everyone thinks theirs is the best. Circa 1953 there was an article in the Reader's Digest on the role that silver played in the building of the Burma road during world War II . Shortly after construction began everything stopped due to dysentery and diarrhea from the water supply. An English doctor gathe red up a number ofD batteries and silver coins, which he took to India. The coins were converted into wires about a meter long and one was soldered on each end of the D battery. The silver wires were placed in the Lister bags water supply with the batteries on the outside. In just a few days the medical problem disappeared and the road was completed. At that time I was living in La Ceiba, Honduras, and our water supply was from unfiltered, unprocessed mountain runoff water, and I was curious about the silver process. At my request the director of the research laboratory had his personnel prepare twelve petri dishes for bacterial culture growth. A water sample was divided into three parts. One part was used to make a 1, 10, 100, and 1000 dilution sample for the untreated water, a second set was made for water that was stirred with a silver wire for two minutes, and the third set was made using water that had been stirred with two silver wires that were soldered to the ends of a D battery. What follows are my personal experiences while investigating the making of a silver product to be used for human consumption. The twelve samples were incubated for forty-eight hours so that any bacteria present would grow. At the end of the incubation period the samples were viewed with results as listed on the table. Untreated Water: 1/1 Solid cover of bacterial growth. 2/10 to 3/100 had successfully reduced growth. 4/1000 had five colonies of bacteria. Stirred Water: 1/1 had a few colonies. 1/10 had less than sample 1. 1/100 and 1/1000 were free of bacterial growth. Electrolyzed Water: All four of the culture dishes were bacterially free. I returned to the United States in 1957, and in 1997 while browsing the Internet I encountered a silver list moderated by Professor Katherine Stevenson of the Jamestown College in North Dakota, which I joined. I soon realized that every list member had their own special way of making what they called colloidal silver, and there was little interest to arrive at a standard process. There upon started my investigation of the electrolytic process for making a silver product. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Michael Brown walk.run2...@yahoo.comwrote: Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't re call anyone prior to that. Anyone know? thanks, mlbrown
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Thank-you for the fascinating info, I will research the links as well. Sincerely, mlbrown
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Just curious, who was it that originally started making this stuff? My first experiments were the result of reading Bob Beck's literature. Don't re call anyone prior to that. Anyone know? thanks, mlbrown
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PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives. thanks, sol PT Ferrance wrote: Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com ** Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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A 3'x3' piece of 1/4 thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter. Another piece of 1/4 thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the meter and a bedroom. The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory so that the room would be protected. It extends past the meter by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is. I hope this helps. PT From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives. thanks, sol PT Ferrance wrote: Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com ** Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ah...a radiation sheild. Good thought. T On 1/2/14, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: A 3'x3' piece of 1/4 thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter. Another piece of 1/4 thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the meter and a bedroom. The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory so that the room would be protected. It extends past the meter by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is. I hope this helps. PT From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives. thanks, sol PT Ferrance wrote: Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com ** Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Like PT - When you say a plate was placed behind the meter, do you mean on the inside of the house? Or between the meter and the house? The electric monopoly installed the device last year and these freaky body jump kind of things have increased ever since. Have no idea how to explain the body jump things. It does not sound like the OP's vibration thing. Mine are more like quick rumbles that come in waves that go down my body. I have had them as long as I can remember and have lived in various regions of the Country, as well as Central America. Great discussion. I thought it was just me Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels weird things in their body. ;-) Teri and the Happy Hooligans On Jan 2, 2014 8:57 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: A 3'x3' piece of 1/4 thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter. Another piece of 1/4 thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the meter and a bedroom. The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory so that the room would be protected. It extends past the meter by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is. I hope this helps. PT -- *From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM *Subject:* Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives. thanks, sol PT Ferrance wrote: Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com ** Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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My meter is on a garage wall... on the outside so the 3'x3' plate when on the inside of the garage and then another plate next to the meter on the outside. PT From: Jasmine Mykal jasminemy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:38 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration Like PT - When you say a plate was placed behind the meter, do you mean on the inside of the house? Or between the meter and the house? The electric monopoly installed the device last year and these freaky body jump kind of things have increased ever since. Have no idea how to explain the body jump things. It does not sound like the OP's vibration thing. Mine are more like quick rumbles that come in waves that go down my body. I have had them as long as I can remember and have lived in various regions of the Country, as well as Central America. Great discussion. I thought it was just me Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels weird things in their body. ;-) Teri and the Happy Hooligans On Jan 2, 2014 8:57 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: A 3'x3' piece of 1/4 thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter. Another piece of 1/4 thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the meter and a bedroom. The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory so that the room would be protected. It extends past the meter by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is. I hope this helps. PT From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives. thanks, sol PT Ferrance wrote: Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com ** Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ok, got it. Same set up as mine would be. Thanks PT! Teri and the Happy Hooligans On Jan 2, 2014 5:56 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: My meter is on a garage wall... on the outside so the 3'x3' plate when on the inside of the garage and then another plate next to the meter on the outside. PT -- *From:* Jasmine Mykal jasminemy...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration Like PT - When you say a plate was placed behind the meter, do you mean on the inside of the house? Or between the meter and the house? The electric monopoly installed the device last year and these freaky body jump kind of things have increased ever since. Have no idea how to explain the body jump things. It does not sound like the OP's vibration thing. Mine are more like quick rumbles that come in waves that go down my body. I have had them as long as I can remember and have lived in various regions of the Country, as well as Central America. Great discussion. I thought it was just me Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels weird things in their body. ;-) Teri and the Happy Hooligans On Jan 2, 2014 8:57 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: A 3'x3' piece of 1/4 thick steel plate was put behind the smart meter. Another piece of 1/4 thick steel was put alongside the smart meter between the meter and a bedroom. The size of this piece was determined by the trajectory so that the room would be protected. It extends past the meter by some distance so that I was sure the room would be comfortable... and it is. I hope this helps. PT -- *From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:00 AM *Subject:* Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration PT, could you give details of how you used the steel plate? Or tell me if you have already posted details here and I'll search the archives. thanks, sol PT Ferrance wrote: Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. *From:* Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com ** Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Your the one who noticed and commented on the fear not any of us and it wasn't the subject we were talking about...FOCUS if you think you can manage that without being so arrogant. On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:43 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Read some of the content from the link you provided. Pure fear. Most of these kinds of symptoms aren't a problem if the person doesn't freak out about it. So there... On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: That's your opinion...nobody said anything about fear. So don't read more into it than being stated!! On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:48 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a case of we have nothing to fear but fear itself. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem, http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before. Debbie On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 31 Dec 2013 at 7:32, 2Words wrote about : Subject : CSQuestion About Body Vibration Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy Hi Joy, To keep a bit of silver in the conversation. In my experience use of CS or EIS has lowered the tinnitus to an acceptable, even enjoyable experience. I think what has happened in my case is that congestion, inflammation and some blockage has been reduced. My hearing has improved a bit but the tinnitus is still there. Yes, I have been hearing / sensing this for a few years. Lately, the noise has been changeable by the hour; it changes tone, volume and speed. Basically I can describe it in terms of the sound made by a washing machine on wash cycle or on spin cycle. Usually the sound is fairly monotonous and steady and in the faint background, if at all. However in the past few months the noise has at times become louder, more insistent and with an urgent feel to it. I don't have a log or diary of this but my thought is that soon after sensing this sort of urgent quality 'sound' there is a world disaster somewhere as a result of an earthquake or violent weather event. The Indian ocean tsunami, new zealand earthquakes, and more recently, heavy weather and floods 5 Dec UK and Europe. Yadda yadda. I drive an old stick shift van. Fairly recently I drove an automatic. While stuck in traffic and dithering I shifted from Neutral to Drive a few times and got just about the exact tones. A Whurrr - Whoorrr sound, The noise' has about a count of 7 per whurr or whoor. and overlaid on that is an occasional, intermittent, irregular blip or thud. The carrier wave; the 'rrr' part of the sound is akin to the putter-putter of a small gasoline engine idling; like a lawnmower in the distance and that is about 8Hz, which is very interesting in itself, being Earth Frequency as found by Schumann. OK, I have tinnitus, with which I am very familiar. and which I have had for many, many years and basically as a result of happily listening to loud machinery. 'the noise' is not tinnitus which is always there and which I can listen to; or try to ignore. 'the noise' is obliterated by ambient noise such as wind, rain, vacuum cleaner etc. 'the noise' seems to amplified by some wooden structures such as bed base and empty cabinet. At one time the 'the noise' drove me nuts trying to isolate or analyse it. I thought it could be tinnitus or residual sound caused by close proximity to computer or workshop equipment ( it is sort of like the pc fan setup but that is very steady ). I did all sorts of inconclusive experiments except that I'm fairly sure it is not related to mains or power frequency. At one time I was convinced it was coming from the cell phone towers but this is very difficult to prove one way or another because the noise comes from everywhere. This is still the possiblity if the noise is coming from switched mode power supply equipment either leaking physical noise or (more likely) leaking noise back into the powersupply system There are a few of us in our village that have mentioned this in passing. It is not a popular topic because it implies a certain amount of daftness. !!! I try to meditate and that is exactly the sort of situation that will bring awareness of this sort of phenomenon. This past week, on a whim, I found that sometimes I can influence 'the noise' by sending it thoughts like Peace and Joy , the results of which has been that 'the noise' became inaudible for a few minutes to return and be banished again until I lost concentration. :-) another occasion the noise just faded and did not return. third attempt yesterday was not successful at banishing the noise. I'm either daft as a brush or on something or maybe I am onto something very important. OK, Tony
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Hi Joy.. The only thing I can relate to what you described is a meditation phenomenon that occures at a certain point in the awakening process. It is what used to be seen with the 'Holy Rollers' as they were called in the last century. Now, it may not be as violent as all that but...it was recommended by a teacher tojust relax and go with the exxperience and to drink pure distilled cold water to help the body and mind to stay grounded. It was the chakras opening..so I was told. Hope this is of help. Tara On 12/31/13, Tony Moody a...@aptech.co.za wrote: On 31 Dec 2013 at 7:32, 2Words wrote about : Subject : CSQuestion About Body Vibration Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy Hi Joy, To keep a bit of silver in the conversation. In my experience use of CS or EIS has lowered the tinnitus to an acceptable, even enjoyable experience. I think what has happened in my case is that congestion, inflammation and some blockage has been reduced. My hearing has improved a bit but the tinnitus is still there. Yes, I have been hearing / sensing this for a few years. Lately, the noise has been changeable by the hour; it changes tone, volume and speed. Basically I can describe it in terms of the sound made by a washing machine on wash cycle or on spin cycle. Usually the sound is fairly monotonous and steady and in the faint background, if at all. However in the past few months the noise has at times become louder, more insistent and with an urgent feel to it. I don't have a log or diary of this but my thought is that soon after sensing this sort of urgent quality 'sound' there is a world disaster somewhere as a result of an earthquake or violent weather event. The Indian ocean tsunami, new zealand earthquakes, and more recently, heavy weather and floods 5 Dec UK and Europe. Yadda yadda. I drive an old stick shift van. Fairly recently I drove an automatic. While stuck in traffic and dithering I shifted from Neutral to Drive a few times and got just about the exact tones. A Whurrr - Whoorrr sound, The noise' has about a count of 7 per whurr or whoor. and overlaid on that is an occasional, intermittent, irregular blip or thud. The carrier wave; the 'rrr' part of the sound is akin to the putter-putter of a small gasoline engine idling; like a lawnmower in the distance and that is about 8Hz, which is very interesting in itself, being Earth Frequency as found by Schumann. OK, I have tinnitus, with which I am very familiar. and which I have had for many, many years and basically as a result of happily listening to loud machinery. 'the noise' is not tinnitus which is always there and which I can listen to; or try to ignore. 'the noise' is obliterated by ambient noise such as wind, rain, vacuum cleaner etc. 'the noise' seems to amplified by some wooden structures such as bed base and empty cabinet. At one time the 'the noise' drove me nuts trying to isolate or analyse it. I thought it could be tinnitus or residual sound caused by close proximity to computer or workshop equipment ( it is sort of like the pc fan setup but that is very steady ). I did all sorts of inconclusive experiments except that I'm fairly sure it is not related to mains or power frequency. At one time I was convinced it was coming from the cell phone towers but this is very difficult to prove one way or another because the noise comes from everywhere. This is still the possiblity if the noise is coming from switched mode power supply equipment either leaking physical noise or (more likely) leaking noise back into the powersupply system There are a few of us in our village that have mentioned this in passing. It is not a popular topic because it implies a certain amount of daftness. !!! I try to meditate and that is exactly the sort of situation that will bring awareness of this sort of phenomenon. This past week, on a whim, I found that sometimes I can influence 'the noise' by sending it thoughts like Peace and Joy , the results of which has been that 'the noise' became inaudible for a few minutes to return and be banished again until I lost concentration. :-) another occasion the noise just faded and did not return. third attempt yesterday was not successful at banishing the noise.I'm either daft as a brush or on something or maybe I am onto something very important. OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal
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Hi Joy, I've personally experienced this bodily vibrations in the past. Here are a few of my theories - 1) lack of B complex vitamins - I've researched for people who are severely lacking B complex vitamin often get this vibrating sensation in their bodies or feel as if they're about to float. 2) depending on the time of day - if you're in bed when this happens, it could be an introduction to out of body experience (OBE) --- 3) Breathwork I once went to a therapist who was an expert in breath work - he taught me to breathe a certain way and it was a bewildering experience because I could feel my entire body vibrating - it freaked me out, actually and I kept interrupting the process as I was nervous. Even my teeth were vibrating! Very difficult to explain but that is the best word I can describe. Finally he coached me to release my defensiveness and next thing I knew I was out for an hour-- this was part of a healing process for the emotional/psychic/physical therapy. Those are the only times I've ever personally experienced the vibration sensations. I know this is not CS related, but I thought I'd put in my 2 cents. RaVen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks RaVen... those could all bbe called meditation experiencesand yes...the breathing patterns or breathwork will trigger this. It does have aphysiological effect and thats where the Bvits come in. I should have asked if you eat meat at all? Beef or buffalo (bison) are the best for maintaining the fire energy. Just a tiny amount or even the bone soup as was talked about on another thread. T On 12/31/13, RaVen aslra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joy, I've personally experienced this bodily vibrations in the past. Here are a few of my theories - 1) lack of B complex vitamins - I've researched for people who are severely lacking B complex vitamin often get this vibrating sensation in their bodies or feel as if they're about to float. 2) depending on the time of day - if you're in bed when this happens, it could be an introduction to out of body experience (OBE) --- 3) Breathwork I once went to a therapist who was an expert in breath work - he taught me to breathe a certain way and it was a bewildering experience because I could feel my entire body vibrating - it freaked me out, actually and I kept interrupting the process as I was nervous. Even my teeth were vibrating! Very difficult to explain but that is the best word I can describe. Finally he coached me to release my defensiveness and next thing I knew I was out for an hour-- this was part of a healing process for the emotional/psychic/physical therapy. Those are the only times I've ever personally experienced the vibration sensations. I know this is not CS related, but I thought I'd put in my 2 cents. RaVen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 31 Dec 2013 at 8:18, 123 456 wrote about : Subject : Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibratio Hi Joy.. The only thing I can relate to what you described is a meditation phenomenon that occures at a certain point in the awakening process. It is what used to be seen with the 'Holy Rollers' as they were called in the last century. Now, it may not be as violent as all that but...it was recommended by a teacher tojust relax and go with the exxperience and to drink pure distilled cold water to help the body and mind to stay grounded. It was the chakras opening..so I was told. Hope this is of help. Tara Hi Joy and Tara, Me changing tack completely. Yes, If it is what you are talking about : there is a fairly normal phenomenon of feeling as if ones torso is rotating slowly while sitting quietly. I have only ever come across this mentioned in Polarity Therapy as the East West current. As far as I can remember we did not work with this physical motion much but we were aware of it when it occured. I think you are correct; observe it and it will settle down soon. It is good to know that all is working well. OK, Tony
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Another observation... we are, indeed, an electrical battery and with the complex circuitry we all have with this terrestrial body it sort of makes sense that when we start to percieve the finer energys we are immersed in that one would begin to be aware of and even start to attune to these energys both within and without. Wouldn't it? Some people might even get a bit rattled even feeling or (gasp) hearing their blood circulate through the body. LOL T On 12/31/13, Tony Moody a...@aptech.co.za wrote: On 31 Dec 2013 at 8:18, 123 456 wrote about : Subject : Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibratio Hi Joy.. The only thing I can relate to what you described is a meditation phenomenon that occures at a certain point in the awakening process. It is what used to be seen with the 'Holy Rollers' as they were called in the last century. Now, it may not be as violent as all that but...it was recommended by a teacher tojust relax and go with the exxperience and to drink pure distilled cold water to help the body and mind to stay grounded. It was the chakras opening..so I was told. Hope this is of help. Tara Hi Joy and Tara, Me changing tack completely. Yes, If it is what you are talking about : there is a fairly normal phenomenon of feeling as if ones torso is rotating slowly while sitting quietly. I have only ever come across this mentioned in Polarity Therapy as the East West current. As far as I can remember we did not work with this physical motion much but we were aware of it when it occured. I think you are correct; observe it and it will settle down soon. It is good to know that all is working well. OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before. Debbie On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem, http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before. Debbie On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Here's a case of we have nothing to fear but fear itself. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote: Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem, http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before. Debbie On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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That's your opinion...nobody said anything about fear. So don't read more into it than being stated!! On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:48 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a case of we have nothing to fear but fear itself. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem, http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before. Debbie On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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One thing that I would do if this was happening to me, would be to make up a cheap Faraday cage, and enter it when the vibration starts. If it stops, I would know that it is caused by EMF from microwave towers, etc. There are many people who are getting so sensitive to cell phone tower transmissions that they need to make their whole house into a Faraday cage. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9dhGv_tTs Resonance:Beings of Frequency Joe Silver ;-) On 31/12/2013 12:32 AM, 2Words wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:34 PM, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: One thing that I would do if this was happening to me, would be to make up a cheap Faraday cage, and enter it when the vibration starts. If it stops, I would know that it is caused by EMF from microwave towers, etc. There are many people who are getting so sensitive to cell phone tower transmissions that they need to make their whole house into a Faraday cage. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9dhGv_tTsResonance:Beings of Frequency Joe Silver ;-) On 31/12/2013 12:32 AM, 2Words wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yes they are. I solved this with a couple of pieces of 1/4 steel plate. I could feel the difference. Happy New Year everyone! Blessings, PT From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: CSQuestion About Body Vibration Aren't people supposed to be affected by the smart meter's that are being installed on peoples homes? On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:34 PM, Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca wrote: One thing that I would do if this was happening to me, would be to make up a cheap Faraday cage, and enter it when the vibration starts. If it stops, I would know that it is caused by EMF from microwave towers, etc. There are many people who are getting so sensitive to cell phone tower transmissions that they need to make their whole house into a Faraday cage. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV9dhGv_tTsResonance:Beings of Frequency Joe Silver ;-) On 31/12/2013 12:32 AM, 2Words wrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Read some of the content from the link you provided. Pure fear. Most of these kinds of symptoms aren't a problem if the person doesn't freak out about it. So there... On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote: That's your opinion...nobody said anything about fear. So don't read more into it than being stated!! On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:48 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a case of we have nothing to fear but fear itself. On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote: Boy your sure not alone there are other people with the same problem, http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Feels-like-Im-vibrating/show/297668 On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: I would certainly do some research on this...I never even heard of it before. Debbie On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:47 AM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote: I'd say, relax and enjoy it. Consider yourself lucky. Dan On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, 2Words 2wordsproduct...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSQuestion About Body Vibration
Hi, Is there someone on the list who is familiar with the phenomenon of feeling the body vibrating? For the last few days I've been experiencing the sensing of how my body is vibrating in cycles - it goes one way - then flips and goes the other circular way. My feeling is the vibratory rate is on the low side - but nonetheless - its there and I feel it. It is like a hum/rumble. And there are no electronics or devices involved. Just plain physical sensation. Any substantial evidence with this would be appreciated. Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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thank you Lena! I want to try these out, as thick blood seems to come with my territory. I have an f-165 and can program them in. warmly, Suzy On 3/4/2013 8:53 PM, Lena Guyot wrote: I checked CAFL and it's not there, so I can't remember where/when I got the series, but I managed to hand copy from my FScan 2. They work for me. I'm not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat, so can't actually recommend anything for anyone else, or anyone else's machine. 62000 63000 87000 89000 91000 94000 96000 98000 99000 105000 163000 316000 319000 379000 Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, suzy wrote: Hi Lena, Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being the most helpful to run? It sounds like a great idea for all of us! Suzy On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote: First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better circulation. Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the time. Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote: there are? for sure? has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment? or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ? *From:* Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSquestion There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'. Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the stent? Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6147 - Release Date: 03/04/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13
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I would think a letter from the doctor that put the stent in about what will happen to it and her if a blood clot develops would be a place to start. PT From: Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:02:22 PM Subject: CSquestion Do you know anything to replace blood thinners? Have a friend who just had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. Thanks, Sarah
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How wierd that her insurance won't pay. Usually they are eager to put us on things that aren't particularly good for us. Study.. research and come to your own conclusions but nattozyme (nattozime), serrapeptase and 'earthing' products can help thick/sludgy/ketchupy blood. Earthing products increase the 'zeta' potential of red blood cells.. helping them to repel one another which means the cells have more 'elbow' room. Lola H. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:14 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: I would think a letter from the doctor that put the stent in about what will happen to it and her if a blood clot develops would be a place to start. PT -- *From:* Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, March 4, 2013 1:02:22 PM *Subject:* CSquestion Do you know anything to replace blood thinners? Have a friend who just had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. Thanks, Sarah
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There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'. Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the stent? Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Sarah Miller wrote: Do you know anything to replace blood thinners? Have a friend who just had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. Thanks, Sarah
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there are? for sure? has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment? or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ? _ From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'. Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the stent? Be well, Léna
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First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better circulation. Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the time. Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote: there are? for sure? has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment? or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ? From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'. Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at leastcover the stent? Be well, Léna
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Traditionally, aspirin is used as a blood thinner. Many people take 1 baby aspirin a day for that purpose. One could take more to thin the blood more. Natto enzyme, available for a fairly cheap price at places like Swanson's Vitamins, will clear out fibrin from the blood. One dose will last about 10-12 hours so one may want to take 2 a day, one in the am and one in the pm. You could discuss this all with the doctor who should be willing to advise if one cannot afford the blood thinners. Dan On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know anything to replace blood thinners? Have a friend who just had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. Thanks, Sarah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I switched from coumadin to nattokinase after doing my due diligence research. My cardiologist want me to consider aspirin, but that has it's own list of bad effects including blindness. Chuck The greatest threat to the Republic is that people rarely question the authenticity of political quotes at the bottoms of emails - Thomas Jefferson On 3/4/2013 1:01:42 PM, Sarah Miller (sarahmiller...@gmail.com) wrote: Do you know anything to replace blood thinners? Have a friend who just had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Lena, Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being the most helpful to run? It sounds like a great idea for all of us! Suzy On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote: First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better circulation. Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the time. Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote: there are? for sure? has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment? or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ? *From:* Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSquestion There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'. Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the stent? Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6147 - Release Date: 03/04/13
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I checked CAFL and it's not there, so I can't remember where/when I got the series, but I managed to hand copy from my FScan 2. They work for me. I'm not a doc, just a Lymie lab-rat, so can't actually recommend anything for anyone else, or anyone else's machine. 62000 63000 87000 89000 91000 94000 96000 98000 99000 105000 163000 316000 319000 379000 Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, suzy wrote: Hi Lena, Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being the most helpful to run? It sounds like a great idea for all of us! Suzy On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote: First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better circulation. Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the time. Be well, Léna On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote: there are? for sure? has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment? or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ? From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'. Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the stent? Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6147 - Release Date: 03/04/13
Re: CSquestion about earthing material
From: Simonsen, John Sent: Saturday, 26 January, 2013 16:39 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSquestion about earthing material I've been sleeping on an Earthing sheet for maybe a year now. It makes a huge difference. The downside is that I have found all the fabrics I have tried (Earthing fitted bottom sheet, Silverelle and several others from lessemf.com) lose their conductivity with use. If anyone knows of a fabric that lasts, please respond. The more gently you handle the fabrics, the longer they last. But they don't retain their conductivity forever. The fabric from Earthing seems the best and I can't find it elsewhere online. But it must be treated gently. The Silverelle is comfortable, but after a while it loses conductivity and even starts to turn black. I think the silver is being oxidized by body oils. I made a pillowcase out of it. It worked for about 6 months, but now it is dark where my head goes and very low conductivity. Another thing I've started doing is not washing the silver-containing fabrics very often. They are antibiotic, after all. Also, use a meter and check the connections. I had the grounding wire from Earthing.com go bad. John An older message from Marshall, “removing silver stains” dated 6 Jan 2013: I just discovered something that will remove silver stains within a minute or two. I have a countertop which is rather badly stained with silver from over the years. Although hydrogen peroxide can be used to remove new silver stains, my experience is that once it has sat a while, it tarnishes becoming silver sulfide. Silver is happiest with sulfur, so I had been unable to find anything to react with it a and produce a soluble silver compound. Unfortunately silver sulfide is 100% insoluble, so once you have the stain, it seemed to be there forever. I have applied hydrogen peroxide to these stains in the past for hours at a time. Well, last night I made up a few drops of activated MMS to put on a wart. A drop of it fell on the stained counter, and I wiped it up after about a minute. Right where the drop was, the counter was completely stain free, a nice yellow circle in a sea of brown/grey stain (counter is yellow). So I did some experimenting. Even if applied immediately after mixing the acid and sodium chlorite, it works very well. To check my theory that it was actually reacting with tarnish, I put a drop on a badly tarnished spoon, and the tarnish was immediately removed. However it also reacted with the silver making the surface look more like pearl than silver (might have formed a layer of silver chloride or simply roughened it up), but the black of the silver sulfide was removed almost immediately. This is what seems to be happening. The activated mms produces chlorine dioxide. ClO2 splits up producing both chlorine as well as oxygen. Although silver much rather unite with sulfur than with chlorine, sulfur likes the oxygen better, leaving the silver to make sulfur dioxide (which with water produces sulfuric acid), and the silver then reacts with the free chlorine: Ag + ClO2 - AgCl + O2 AgS + ClO2 + H20 - AgCl + H2SO4 The silver chloride, being slightly soluble, can then be removed with water. Now, I was working with MMS (28% sodium chlorite), and 50% citric acid solution, equal amounts of each. This likely will work with lemon or lime activated as well, but concentration will be much lower, so I expect it to take longer. The addition of vitamin C, and antioxidant might interfere as well, but I have not tried it and can't say for sure. Marshall
Re: CSquestion about earthing material
What a wonderful resource. Thank you for sending it. PT From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 26, 2013 2:38:01 AM Subject: Re: CSquestion about earthing material A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread. If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread. just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics. http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote: This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.com . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.” It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
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I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make powered silver bandages I have several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids pads) with a small power source to run silver ios off of the bandaids. My neighbor who has diabetess and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been opened for over 5 years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver bandaid 2 hours a day. Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am making several of these so my kids will have them as well as neighbors who already want them. I have told them of the cost of material, they still want them. Buying the material in bulk would be cheaper, but I have just handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra careful! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSquestion about earthing material A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread. If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread. just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics. http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote: This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.com . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.” It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
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what power source, and how do you hook it up? Becker was specific about the voltagevery low. Seems like one would have to calculate the area, keep the two electrodes from touching, have a battery older etc. On 1/26/2013 10:19 AM, James McDonald wrote: I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make powered silver bandages I have several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids pads) with a small power source to run silver ios off of the bandaids. My neighbor who has diabetess and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been opened for over 5 years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver bandaid 2 hours a day. Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am making several of these so my kids will have them as well as neighbors who already want them. I have told them of the cost of material, they still want them. Buying the material in bulk would be cheaper, but I have just handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra careful! *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSquestion about earthing material A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread. If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread. just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics. http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote: This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.com http://www.lessemf.com/ . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.” It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW //Rife Handbook// (2011) //Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy//(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com/
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Would you comment more on the power source you use so we can duplicate your invention? I think I may try this for estim electrodes cut to size for large areas. PT From: James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 26, 2013 12:19:31 PM Subject: Re: CSquestion about earthing material I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make powered silver bandages I have several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids pads) with a small power source to run silver ios off of the bandaids. My neighbor who has diabetess and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been opened for over 5 years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver bandaid 2 hours a day. Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am making several of these so my kids will have them as well as neighbors who already want them. I have told them of the cost of material, they still want them. Buying the material in bulk would be cheaper, but I have just handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra careful! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSquestion about earthing material A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread. If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread. just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics. http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote: This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.com . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.” It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
RE: CSquestion about earthing material
I've been sleeping on an Earthing sheet for maybe a year now. It makes a huge difference. The downside is that I have found all the fabrics I have tried (Earthing fitted bottom sheet, Silverelle and several others from lessemf.com) lose their conductivity with use. If anyone knows of a fabric that lasts, please respond. The more gently you handle the fabrics, the longer they last. But they don't retain their conductivity forever. The fabric from Earthing seems the best and I can't find it elsewhere online. But it must be treated gently. The Silverelle is comfortable, but after a while it loses conductivity and even starts to turn black. I think the silver is being oxidized by body oils. I made a pillowcase out of it. It worked for about 6 months, but now it is dark where my head goes and very low conductivity. Another thing I've started doing is not washing the silver-containing fabrics very often. They are antibiotic, after all. Also, use a meter and check the connections. I had the grounding wire from Earthing.com go bad. John From: mgperrault [mgperra...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion about earthing material what power source, and how do you hook it up? Becker was specific about the voltagevery low. Seems like one would have to calculate the area, keep the two electrodes from touching, have a battery older etc. On 1/26/2013 10:19 AM, James McDonald wrote: I use their rip-stop silver fabric to make powered silver bandages I have several different sized cut(in the shape of bandaids pads) with a small power source to run silver ios off of the bandaids. My neighbor who has diabetess and had an ulcer from the knee to the ankle, it has been opened for over 5 years. It only took 2 months with wearing the silver bandaid 2 hours a day. Worked great! No scar's and healed nicely. I am making several of these so my kids will have them as well as neighbors who already want them. I have told them of the cost of material, they still want them. Buying the material in bulk would be cheaper, but I have just handwashed the silver fabric just to be extra careful! To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:37 AM Subject: Re: CSquestion about earthing material A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread. If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread. just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics. http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote: This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: “I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.comhttp://www.lessemf.com/ . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online.” It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I’ve found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.comhttp://www.nenahsylver.com/; www.rifehandbook.comhttp://www.rifehandbook.com/
CSquestion about earthing material
This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.com http://www.lessemf.com/ . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online. It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I've found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSquestion about earthing material
A natural would be cotton or bamboo or silk interlaced with carbon thread. If this is not available, I think one could buy carbon thread or conductive thread and just sew a few zig zag patterns in the foot region of a spread. just glanced at this page with some conductive silver plated fabrics. http://www.fine-silver-productsnet.com/shmefayaandf.html On 1/26/2013 12:01 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote: This is addressed to Bonita Poulin and anyone else who might know. Thanks to some very informative discussions in this group, I am ready to buy some Earthing material with which to make a half-sheet for my bed. Bonita had written: I just received the fabric and grounding cord I ordered from www.lessEMF.com http://www.lessemf.com/ . The fabric covers most of my queen size bed. Total cost, including USDS shipping was $69.50, much cheaper than the ready made grounding sheets sold online. It is indeed a great price. The only thing, the material sold on this site is polyester. I like natural fibers, and am wondering how comfortable you found this material. Also, have you felt better since sleeping on this? Researching more into this, I've found that the conductive silver threads can break (thus losing their conductivity), so the sheets must be handled carefully. Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW //Rife Handbook// (2011) //Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy//(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com
CSQuestion on monosodium phosphate
Does anybody know a good reliable source for (bulk) monosodium phosphate? I've found NaturVet has some available - which is for horses. Anybody know (or use) this for human consumption and if it's ok? Lisa
Re: CSQuestion on monosodium phosphate
Yes, probably. I have used the *S*uper *O*xide *D*ismutase from Pure Gold pet foods in California. (SOD) It was an awesome digestive aid. It is illegal in Canada for human consumption, but legal for veterinary use. See if you can find out who the supplier is then check them out on the web and by word of mouth in the industry, if you can. Let us know how it goes? *Thanks,* *Tara* _ On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Does anybody know a good reliable source for (bulk) monosodium phosphate? ** ** I’ve found NaturVet has some available – which is for horses. Anybody know (or use) this for human consumption and if it’s ok? ** ** Lisa
RE: CSQuestion ??
Oh, OK, thanks for that. N. From: highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuestion ?? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:54:51 +1100 German surgical tweezers - not too dear - briliant // Jane
Re: CSQuestion ??
I was in my nursing supply place a customer came in to replace hers which had been removed at an airport as a potential terrorist weapon - I had to have some :) - Original Message - From: Neville Munn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 7:55 PM Subject: RE: CSQuestion ?? Oh, OK, thanks for that. N. -- From: highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSQuestion ?? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:54:51 +1100 German surgical tweezers - not too dear - briliant // Jane No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4796 - Release Date: 02/08/12
RE: CSQuestion ??
I have kept a plantar wart wet with mineral oil (can use any oil, I think) on a bandage. In a short time it came up as others have described and I pulled out the root because it had become too painful. It must be kept 'oiled' 24/7 until it comes out. PT From: juga...@aol.com [mailto:juga...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSQuestion ?? I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions. Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thank you .. Judy No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4798 - Release Date: 02/09/12
CSQuestion ??
I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions. Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
Re: CSQuestion ??
violet ray. You can find these new or used. I have used it successfully. If you zap it too long, it can result in a necrosis that stays black for some time, so dont over do it. On 2/8/2012 9:14 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions. Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
RE: CSQuestion ??
Judy, Warts are caused by a virus. (In the genital area, the virus is the HPV, or Human Papilloma Virus.) If you were able to look far enough down into the foot, you'd see a stem. Those miserable little things grow deep, unless checked. If you have a rife machine or other similar frequency device, you could use the frequencies. A podiatrist (foot doctor) typically freezes the warts with liquid nitrogen. But you can eliminate the wart yourself with various commercial preparations. Most contain salicylic acid, which dissolves the protein or keratin of which the wart is made. You could also use CS, but I think CS would be more effective AFTER the tough outer covering of the wart were removed with a caustic substance. Another caustic substance is food grade hydrogen peroxide. Any strength over 3% would abrade or burn the skin, which in the case of a wart is exactly what you'd want to do. Family Health News in Florida sells 9% hydrogen peroxide, which undiluted would probably be caustic enough to do the job. Other preparations use, besides salicylic acid, various essential oils. Essential oils such as eucalyptus and oregano are quite caustic in their own right if they're not diluted, so I think they'd be quite effective, though I haven't tried them myself. Here's one: http://wartremovalreviews.net/reviews/wartrol-review Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com _ From: juga...@aol.com [mailto:juga...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSQuestion ?? I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions. Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
RE: CSQuestion ??
If you've got reasonably high short term pain tolerance, here's how I got rid
of mine. I had mine on my accelerator food, and I drive trucks, so was very
painful for several weeks.
I purchased a packet of sticky caustic pads from chemist, there are various
sizes in the packet.
I placed a pad on the wart, starting with appropriate size pad and working up
to larger sizes over some days {can't remember how long this took now, it may
have been weeks?}. As the pads burnt away the skin over time, and increasing
the size of pads proportionately until the hole got big enough to enable me to
get a pair of *GOOD* tweezers in there and I pulled the root out.
There were three roots in total, the first two were very pointy {like a dart}
and bled considerably for short time, the third and final root was totally
different in appearance, it was rounded on the end and not pointy. I figured
this was the main one, and the other two were 'saplings' shooting off from this
one.
After removing the rounded one, with nil bleeding to speak of, the whole thing
cleared up.
Be warned though, pulling these things out can be *extremely* painful, but only
instant short term pain {shove a pencil between your teeth g}, so make sure
you grab hold of a good length of the root before yanking it out, and ensure
the hole is big enough to expose enough of the root.
Took me several goes yanking at mine cos I had a crappy pair of tweezers, can't
seem to buy tweezers with GRIP.
N.
From: juga...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:14:37 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSQuestion ??
I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a
plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse
than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The
area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months
ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct
tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart
came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and
placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the
warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the
warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart
on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching
never
stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how
to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern
medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions.
Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8
days,
would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts
have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do
walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation
around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly
appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
RE: CSQuestion ??
That should have been 'accelerator FOOT', not 'food'. We need an edit facility
g.
From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSQuestion ??
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:35:35 +1100
If you've got reasonably high short term pain tolerance, here's how I got rid
of mine. I had mine on my accelerator food, and I drive trucks, so was very
painful for several weeks.
I purchased a packet of sticky caustic pads from chemist, there are various
sizes in the packet.
I placed a pad on the wart, starting with appropriate size pad and working up
to larger sizes over some days {can't remember how long this took now, it may
have been weeks?}. As the pads burnt away the skin over time, and increasing
the size of pads proportionately until the hole got big enough to enable me to
get a pair of *GOOD* tweezers in there and I pulled the root out.
There were three roots in total, the first two were very pointy {like a dart}
and bled considerably for short time, the third and final root was totally
different in appearance, it was rounded on the end and not pointy. I figured
this was the main one, and the other two were 'saplings' shooting off from this
one.
After removing the rounded one, with nil bleeding to speak of, the whole thing
cleared up.
Be warned though, pulling these things out can be *extremely* painful, but only
instant short term pain {shove a pencil between your teeth g}, so make sure
you grab hold of a good length of the root before yanking it out, and ensure
the hole is big enough to expose enough of the root.
Took me several goes yanking at mine cos I had a crappy pair of tweezers, can't
seem to buy tweezers with GRIP.
N.
From: juga...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:14:37 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSQuestion ??
I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a
plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse
than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The
area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months
ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct
tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart
came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and
placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the
warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the
warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart
on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching
never
stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how
to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern
medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions.
Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8
days,
would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts
have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do
walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation
around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly
appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
Re: CSQuestion ??
German surgical tweezers - not too dear - briliant // Jane
- Original Message -
From: Neville Munn
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: CSQuestion ??
That should have been 'accelerator FOOT', not 'food'. We need an edit
facility g.
--
From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSQuestion ??
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:35:35 +1100
If you've got reasonably high short term pain tolerance, here's how I got rid
of mine. I had mine on my accelerator food, and I drive trucks, so was very
painful for several weeks.
I purchased a packet of sticky caustic pads from chemist, there are various
sizes in the packet.
I placed a pad on the wart, starting with appropriate size pad and working up
to larger sizes over some days {can't remember how long this took now, it may
have been weeks?}. As the pads burnt away the skin over time, and increasing
the size of pads proportionately until the hole got big enough to enable me to
get a pair of *GOOD* tweezers in there and I pulled the root out.
There were three roots in total, the first two were very pointy {like a dart}
and bled considerably for short time, the third and final root was totally
different in appearance, it was rounded on the end and not pointy. I figured
this was the main one, and the other two were 'saplings' shooting off from this
one.
After removing the rounded one, with nil bleeding to speak of, the whole
thing cleared up.
Be warned though, pulling these things out can be *extremely* painful, but
only instant short term pain {shove a pencil between your teeth g}, so make
sure you grab hold of a good length of the root before yanking it out, and
ensure the hole is big enough to expose enough of the root.
Took me several goes yanking at mine cos I had a crappy pair of tweezers,
can't seem to buy tweezers with GRIP.
N.
--
From: juga...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:14:37 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSQuestion ??
I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a
plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right
foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the
warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this
list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart,
left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on
it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts
.. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had
changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the
duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches
incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me
some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or
using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions.
Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8
days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts
have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do
walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around
the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
Thank you .. Judy
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Re: CSQuestion ??
Warts can be very troublesome and what works for one wart may not work for another. Here is a link to the wart question on the earthclinic.com site that I am fond of. Read through it and see if any of them appeal to you. http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/warts.html One I didn't read about at the site, but which has been helpful when consistently followed, is to get ahold of some living milkweed plants. Tear off a bit of a leaf until the milky sap flows and cover the warts with the sap. This has never failed to reduce warts for my wife, but then when they get small, she neglects to continue the treatment, so they've never gone away completely. I suspect that this treatment and several other popular treatments have success for the same reason, which is that they all likely block air from reaching the wart. My theory is the wart needs oxygen to survive. If that is the case, it seems to me that the perfect treatment would be to paint the warts with superglue as that is long-lasting and would be the least trouble. Re-paint every couple days and see what happens. Years ago, my son had a plantar's wart. I think we shaved off the top layer of skin and found a black nucleus that look like a tiny root shaped somewhat like a carrot. We pulled it out with a tweezers and it healed and disappeared completely. Best of luck, Steve --- On Wed, 2/8/12, juga...@aol.com juga...@aol.com wrote: From: juga...@aol.com juga...@aol.com Subject: CSQuestion ?? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 11:14 PM I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions. Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
Re: CSQuestion ??
My daughter had warts on both her hands and feet. This was after a period of prolonged stress. I gave her CS for 2 weeks both applying it to the affected areas, as well as taking it orally. After 2 weeks - she didn't have a single wart. She's never had one since. Regards, Mark On 09 Feb 2012, at 6:14, juga...@aol.com wrote: I have a question for anyone who can help me ... I have what seems to be a plantar's wart on both of my feet ... the left foot is worse than the right foot ... They are located on the top pads of both feet. The area around the warts is pretty hard, like a hard callous. Several months ago someone on this list said they had cured a wart by putting duct tape over the top of the wart, left it on for 7 days and the wart came out at that time with a long tail on it... I took your suggestion and placed duct tape on both feet over the warts .. I left the tape on the warts for 8 days... when I took it off, nothing had changed, I still had the warts. One strange thing did happen, since I put the duct tape on the wart on the left foot, the arch on my left foot itches incessantly, the itching never stops. Can anyone on this list please offer me some suggestions as to how to remove these warts without going to a doctor or using modern medicine? I'm not a fan of either of the above solutions. Question... if I use the duct tape again and leave it on longer than the 8 days, would I have any better success? Truly, I am at my wits end, the warts have gotten so sore it is making it very hard for me to walk .. When I do walk, afterwards my feet hurt so badly and I have a burning sensation around the wart area. Please, any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thank you .. Judy
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
What about silver compounds? Say you have silver oxide/chloride/hydroxide in the blood...can silver in this bound state also kill germs by the same mechanism as metallic silver? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Take a look at: http://silver-lightning.com/**research.htmlhttp://silver-lightning.com/research.html Marshall On 8/15/2011 3:08 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Thanks, I am going to read about this. The term catalytic converter comes up when I google oxidizing catalyst. I may ask more questions later. Interesting I know that ASAP claims their Ag4O4 has catalytic capabilities. Maybe I will figure out what that means soon too. I'm writing an In Vivo section of a CS book, so I really want to get into the fine details. ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com** wrote: Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used up like they are. Marshall On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com** wrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/**citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.comsilver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-**off-topic-l...@eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdevour@eskimo.**commdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
Ionic forms of silver which these are, are not catalytic. They do kill germs, but it must be by a different mechanism than as an oxidation catalyst. Marshall On 8/18/2011 4:36 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: What about silver compounds? Say you have silver oxide/chloride/hydroxide in the blood...can silver in this bound state also kill germs by the same mechanism as metallic silver? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Take a look at: http://silver-lightning.com/research.html Marshall On 8/15/2011 3:08 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Thanks, I am going to read about this. The term catalytic converter comes up when I google oxidizing catalyst. I may ask more questions later. Interesting I know that ASAP claims their Ag4O4 has catalytic capabilities. Maybe I will figure out what that means soon too. I'm writing an In Vivo section of a CS book, so I really want to get into the fine details. ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used up like they are. Marshall On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives:
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
I'm speaking not of silver ions that are ultimately liberated from these compounds...but of the silver while it is still in these compounds. So you really think silver can kill germs in this form? ~David On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: ** Ionic forms of silver which these are, are not catalytic. They do kill germs, but it must be by a different mechanism than as an oxidation catalyst. Marshall On 8/18/2011 4:36 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: What about silver compounds? Say you have silver oxide/chloride/hydroxide in the blood...can silver in this bound state also kill germs by the same mechanism as metallic silver? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Take a look at: http://silver-lightning.com/research.html Marshall On 8/15/2011 3:08 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Thanks, I am going to read about this. The term catalytic converter comes up when I google oxidizing catalyst. I may ask more questions later. Interesting I know that ASAP claims their Ag4O4 has catalytic capabilities. Maybe I will figure out what that means soon too. I'm writing an In Vivo section of a CS book, so I really want to get into the fine details. ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used up like they are. Marshall On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used up like they are. Marshall On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
Thanks, I am going to read about this. The term catalytic converter comes up when I google oxidizing catalyst. I may ask more questions later. Interesting I know that ASAP claims their Ag4O4 has catalytic capabilities. Maybe I will figure out what that means soon too. I'm writing an In Vivo section of a CS book, so I really want to get into the fine details. ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used up like they are. Marshall On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about metallic silver
Take a look at: http://silver-lightning.com/research.html Marshall On 8/15/2011 3:08 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Thanks, I am going to read about this. The term catalytic converter comes up when I google oxidizing catalyst. I may ask more questions later. Interesting I know that ASAP claims their Ag4O4 has catalytic capabilities. Maybe I will figure out what that means soon too. I'm writing an In Vivo section of a CS book, so I really want to get into the fine details. ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used up like they are. Marshall On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? ~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshallmdud...@king-cart.comwrote: Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an excellent catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water filters have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured cells to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps of silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an ion, since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the water, can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. Marshall On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/citrate/etc can have different tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair view of the in vivo story. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
Hi Asif, Welcome. The anode current should be limited to less than 1 mA per square inch (1 mA per 645 mm^2 ). For fine results you could go much less than that, but going higher is bound to be rough on the electrode and to produce 'thingies' in the water. Contaminaton of the cell is most likely causing the particles, traces of detergent is the usual culprit there , as is wiping the electrodes with paper or cloth but anything that could float or fall in could be the problem. There are many variables : temperature, conductivity of the starting water, voltage across the cell, electrode distance apart, electrode aspect to each other. Nailing down as many as possible while varying just one will be very helpful while you are learning. Increasing temperature speeds up the reaction. Voltage vs Distance apart are sort of inverse proportion. current is proportional to particle size, sort of. Have fun, OK, Tony PS Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com They are not appearing at the bottom of your emails? Wonder why? Tony On 7 Jun 2011 at 0:18, Asif Nathekar wrote about : Subject : Re: CSquestion regarding CS produc Is 1.5ma too much..? Is that why I got better results when I used 3 anodes? Also is the silver width of 1.25mm ok? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
Hi Tony, I have calculated that I have around 750mm squared area per electrode.. or just over 1 square inch per electrode... with 3 anodes... I would say that I would split that over 3 would be around 0.5 ma per electrode approx and that should be ok in terms of maintaining less than 1ma per inch squared so that one goes down the suspect list. I have been cleaning the electrodes with paper kitchen towels I think that there may be bits of fluff leftover possibly I terms of silver purity... I have very little to check the precise voracity of the Silver, however when I purchased the coin.. I did have it checked by an XRF machine which confirmed that the surface at least was 99.99. I also did some tests of 99.99% vs 92.5% with a silver testing kit.. bought for this purpose... and it also collaborated that the wire was ok... I am heading towards an assumption that the carrying vessel used to transport the distilled water to my may have been contaminated possibly (2L fizzy drink bottle), paper towel fluff.. and too much current which seems to be improved by creating more distance between and electrodes and tripling the electrodes due to the thin wire. I think its time to go on a famous auction site and hunt for a distiller to call my own!.. I will report back once I get brewing again... Thank you for you help Tony including Steve and Neville -- From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion regarding CS production Hi Asif, Welcome. The anode current should be limited to less than 1 mA per square inch (1 mA per 645 mm^2 ). For fine results you could go much less than that, but going higher is bound to be rough on the electrode and to produce 'thingies' in the water. Contaminaton of the cell is most likely causing the particles, traces of detergent is the usual culprit there , as is wiping the electrodes with paper or cloth but anything that could float or fall in could be the problem. There are many variables : temperature, conductivity of the starting water, voltage across the cell, electrode distance apart, electrode aspect to each other. Nailing down as many as possible while varying just one will be very helpful while you are learning. Increasing temperature speeds up the reaction. Voltage vs Distance apart are sort of inverse proportion. current is proportional to particle size, sort of. Have fun, OK, Tony PS Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com They are not appearing at the bottom of your emails? Wonder why? Tony On 7 Jun 2011 at 0:18, Asif Nathekar wrote about : Subject : Re: CSquestion regarding CS produc Is 1.5ma too much..? Is that why I got better results when I used 3 anodes? Also is the silver width of 1.25mm ok? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSquestion regarding CS production
Hello Asif, While the electrode terminals on the SG6 are on 2 cm centers, the electrodes are bent at the top at 90 degrees to make the connection. This brings the electrodes out to the outside edge of the terminals. You end up with electrodes that are spaced 4 cm in the water. Tom -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion regarding CS production It takes about 2-3 hours to go to from 28 to 6v after which it starts making sludge I am thinking of buying my own distiller so that I can control the process better. I have been brewing only 1 liter batches. I found a 300g coffee jar ideal. Plus it was a glass jar. I cannot increase the width of the electrodes any further than 3.5cm as I have mounted them on the coffee jar lid. Which doesn't give me much real estate after the motor on top. I understand that the silvergen SG6 has it's electrodes 2cm apart and uses 1 ma. ( I remember from a trem's post) I have been wiping the electrodes every 20 mins. The cathodes get black fairly quickly. Although things have improved by using 3 anodes. And distancing the electrodes further to 3.5cm. They seem to make the brew more cleanly. I have run out distilled water. So I will not be able to tweak the setup until then. Also may I ask what voltage and current are you using for your setup? Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
From your description it sounds like your current was 1.5 mA initially. Since your maximum voltage is 30 volts, I would expect the current to be no more than a few microamps at the start, and approach or hit the 1.5 mA near the end of brewing. If it is running 1.5 mA initially, then the water is not pure, regardless of what the meter says. What did you wash the bottle out with? Any soap remaining at all can ruin the whole process. Marshall On 6/6/2011 2:27 PM, Asif Nathekar wrote: Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif.
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
Hi Marshall, I agree with your points. To remedy this I am currently in the process of purchasing a water distiller. I will report back once I am able to brew again! many thanks for your reply. On 7 Jun 2011, at 18:38, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From your description it sounds like your current was 1.5 mA initially. Since your maximum voltage is 30 volts, I would expect the current to be no more than a few microamps at the start, and approach or hit the 1.5 mA near the end of brewing. If it is running 1.5 mA initially, then the water is not pure, regardless of what the meter says. What did you wash the bottle out with? Any soap remaining at all can ruin the whole process. Marshall On 6/6/2011 2:27 PM, Asif Nathekar wrote: Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif.
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2011, at 16:05, Tom Poast wrote: Hello Asif, While the electrode terminals on the SG6 are on 2 cm centers, the electrodes are bent at the top at 90 degrees to make the connection. This brings the electrodes out to the outside edge of the terminals. You end up with electrodes that are spaced 4 cm in the water. Tom -Original Message- From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 4:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSquestion regarding CS production It takes about 2-3 hours to go to from 28 to 6v after which it starts making sludge I am thinking of buying my own distiller so that I can control the process better. I have been brewing only 1 liter batches. I found a 300g coffee jar ideal. Plus it was a glass jar. I cannot increase the width of the electrodes any further than 3.5cm as I have mounted them on the coffee jar lid. Which doesn't give me much real estate after the motor on top. I understand that the silvergen SG6 has it's electrodes 2cm apart and uses 1 ma. ( I remember from a trem's post) I have been wiping the electrodes every 20 mins. The cathodes get black fairly quickly. Although things have improved by using 3 anodes. And distancing the electrodes further to 3.5cm. They seem to make the brew more cleanly. I have run out distilled water. So I will not be able to tweak the setup until then. Also may I ask what voltage and current are you using for your setup? Sent from my iPhone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSquestion regarding CS production
Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif.
RE: CSquestion regarding CS production
Use a LM334 current regulator. You can set the current much lower. I have good results with 0.2 mA in a quart of H2O for 24 hours, no stirring needed. Steve Y. _ From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3684 - Release Date: 06/06/11
RE: CSquestion regarding CS production
Hi Asif,
I don't believe you mentioned how long your brew process goes, but here's a
couple of things I'd be looking into:
a) Taking the electrodes out to 4cm apart.
b) Using a larger volume brew vessel for that dimension electrodes. I brew a
litre or more at a time using electrodes shorter than yours {between 8cm and
10cm depending on which of my units I use on the day}. My electrodes are 3mm
dia tho.
c) Remove the electrodes at regular timed intervals to wipe them clean {if you
think they need it or not} before resubmerging them.
Sparklies in the water?...I've noticed that some DW I purchase {only an El
Cheapo brand} shows some sparklies upon using laser pointer straight from the
bottle. I have also seen microscopic bits of 'fluff?' or fibre, or whatever
may be in the air on the day I brew become evident in the water after a couple
days in storage {I store in sealed containers}. I believe these give the
illusion of settlement due to some silver 'attaching?' to these microscopic
bits of 'stuff?' present in the DW, or which has entered the water from the air
during my brew process {I brew in an open top vessel}.
Just a few things I'd be looking at if it were me.
N.
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:27:43 +0100
Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
Is 1.5ma too much..? Is that why I got better results when I used 3 anodes? Also is the silver width of 1.25mm ok? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:43, SJY you...@relia.net wrote: Use a LM334 current regulator. You can set the current much lower. I have good results with 0.2 mA in a quart of H2O for 24 hours, no stirring needed. Steve Y. From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3684 - Release Date: 06/06/11
Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
It takes about 2-3 hours to go to from 28 to 6v after which it starts making
sludge
I am thinking of buying my own distiller so that I can control the process
better.
I have been brewing only 1 liter batches. I found a 300g coffee jar ideal. Plus
it was a glass jar.
I cannot increase the width of the electrodes any further than 3.5cm as I have
mounted them on the coffee jar lid. Which doesn't give me much real estate
after the motor on top.
I understand that the silvergen SG6 has it's electrodes 2cm apart and uses 1
ma. ( I remember from a trem's post)
I have been wiping the electrodes every 20 mins. The cathodes get black fairly
quickly.
Although things have improved by using 3 anodes. And distancing the electrodes
further to 3.5cm. They seem to make the brew more cleanly.
I have run out distilled water. So I will not be able to tweak the setup until
then.
Also may I ask what voltage and current are you using for your setup?
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:57, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Asif,
I don't believe you mentioned how long your brew process goes, but here's a
couple of things I'd be looking into:
a) Taking the electrodes out to 4cm apart.
b) Using a larger volume brew vessel for that dimension electrodes. I brew a
litre or more at a time using electrodes shorter than yours {between 8cm and
10cm depending on which of my units I use on the day}. My electrodes are 3mm
dia tho.
c) Remove the electrodes at regular timed intervals to wipe them clean {if
you think they need it or not} before resubmerging them.
Sparklies in the water?...I've noticed that some DW I purchase {only an El
Cheapo brand} shows some sparklies upon using laser pointer straight from the
bottle. I have also seen microscopic bits of 'fluff?' or fibre, or whatever
may be in the air on the day I brew become evident in the water after a
couple days in storage {I store in sealed containers}. I believe these give
the illusion of settlement due to some silver 'attaching?' to these
microscopic bits of 'stuff?' present in the DW, or which has entered the
water from the air during my brew process {I brew in an open top vessel}.
Just a few things I'd be looking at if it were me.
N.
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:27:43 +0100
Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production
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Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
I have tried to find a resister calculator for the lm134/lm334. But haven't succeeded. Would you kindly point me in the right direction. Ideally I would like to choose anything upto 3ma for scalability. Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2011, at 00:18, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com wrote: Is 1.5ma too much..? Is that why I got better results when I used 3 anodes? Also is the silver width of 1.25mm ok? Sent from my iPhone On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:43, SJY you...@relia.net wrote: Use a LM334 current regulator. You can set the current much lower. I have good results with 0.2 mA in a quart of H2O for 24 hours, no stirring needed. Steve Y. From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3684 - Release Date: 06/06/11
RE: CSquestion regarding CS production
Sorry, I didn't read your 300g vessel properly.
To be perfectly honest, I haven't actually checked the unit I currently use so
I can't tell you the current. One I made several years ago when first getting
involved with this stuff, using 80-85mm length electrodes, ran at 66mA {if I
read the multimeter correctly back then} and the voltage was 25.5v using a
mains power converter to bring voltage down to 24vDC, but it actually ran at
25.5v when electrodes were initially submerged.
I've changed my configuration a little over the years in later units I've made
and have never checked the mA or voltage {unscientific I know, but that's me},
I still use the same electronic internals though, which is a 38ohm resistor
running with an LED and the same mains power converter bringing voltage down to
24vDC.
I did make a unit with electrode spacing of around an inch, or around 25mm,
many moons ago but the end product always seemed to show colour over time in
storage so I shelved that unit.
I also made a magnetic stirrer.
N.
Subject: Re: CSquestion regarding CS production
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 00:31:59 +0100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
It takes about 2-3 hours to go to from 28 to 6v after which it starts making
sludge
I am thinking of buying my own distiller so that I can control the process
better.
I have been brewing only 1 liter batches. I found a 300g coffee jar ideal.
Plus it was a glass jar.
I cannot increase the width of the electrodes any further than 3.5cm as I
have mounted them on the coffee jar lid. Which doesn't give me much real
estate after the motor on top.
I understand that the silvergen SG6 has it's electrodes 2cm apart and uses 1
ma. ( I remember from a trem's post)
I have been wiping the electrodes every 20 mins. The cathodes get black
fairly quickly.
Although things have improved by using 3 anodes. And distancing the
electrodes further to 3.5cm. They seem to make the brew more cleanly.
I have run out distilled water. So I will not be able to tweak the setup
until then.
Also may I ask what voltage and current are you using for your setup?
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Jun 2011, at 23:57, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Asif,
I don't believe you mentioned how long your brew process goes, but here's a
couple of things I'd be looking into:
a) Taking the electrodes out to 4cm apart.
b) Using a larger volume brew vessel for that dimension electrodes. I brew
a litre or more at a time using electrodes shorter than yours {between 8cm
and 10cm depending on which of my units I use on the day}. My electrodes
are 3mm dia tho.
c) Remove the electrodes at regular timed intervals to wipe them clean {if
you think they need it or not} before resubmerging them.
Sparklies in the water?...I've noticed that some DW I purchase {only an El
Cheapo brand} shows some sparklies upon using laser pointer straight from
the bottle. I have also seen microscopic bits of 'fluff?' or fibre, or
whatever may be in the air on the day I brew become evident in the water
after a couple days in storage {I store in sealed containers}. I believe
these give the illusion of settlement due to some silver 'attaching?' to
these microscopic bits of 'stuff?' present in the DW, or which has entered
the water from the air during my brew process {I brew in an open top
vessel}.
Just a few things I'd be looking at if it were me.
N.
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 19:27:43 +0100
Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production
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Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate
I looked at google for their sales section cannot find it - perhaps they no longer sell direct. Will see if i can find another site that sells their product. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Thank you Jane, I am still unsure. 1. What size capsule? 2. What brand (formulation) of CM; in other words, in the Diehl writing what percentage of the material is CM? Jim On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Jim - if you check out Harry Diehl's (?sp) site - the dose is three capsules a day . - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Thank you for the useful post/question. It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times per day. Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day. I will appreciate clarification about this issue. One solution is to take the larger dose, as Alan suggests. But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon. Is overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity? Jim On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis. I would like to be perfectly clear about this. Your suggested protocol is 3x per day of two #2 caps. That's 560mg per dose of CMO. I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder. Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO. So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder, correct? Alan On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: About 280 mg. Be Well. Brooks. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Brooks, Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg? Jim On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases), our results (admittedly anecdotal) do endorse CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective result. This said, I would encourage total vegetarians to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive result. Be Well, Brooks. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3560 - Release Date: 04/08/11 18:34:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3562 - Release Date: 04/09/11 18:34:00
Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate
Ingredients Myristin Softgels: Each capsule contains 260 mgs of CMO, 216 mg cetyl oleate, 85 mg cetyl myristate, 23 mg cetyl palmitoleate, 20 mg cetyl linoleate, 20 mg cetyl palmitate, 18 mg cetyl laurate, 18 mg cetyl esters. Other: gelatin, glycerin, water, titanium dioxide and caramel in the softgel shell. - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Thank you Jane, I am still unsure. 1. What size capsule? 2. What brand (formulation) of CM; in other words, in the Diehl writing what percentage of the material is CM? Jim On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Jim - if you check out Harry Diehl's (?sp) site - the dose is three capsules a day . - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Thank you for the useful post/question. It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times per day. Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day. I will appreciate clarification about this issue. One solution is to take the larger dose, as Alan suggests. But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon. Is overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity? Jim On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis. I would like to be perfectly clear about this. Your suggested protocol is 3x per day of two #2 caps. That's 560mg per dose of CMO. I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder. Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO. So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder, correct? Alan On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: About 280 mg. Be Well. Brooks. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Brooks, Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg? Jim On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases), our results (admittedly anecdotal) do endorse CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective result. This said, I would encourage total vegetarians to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive result. Be Well, Brooks. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3560 - Release Date: 04/08/11 18:34:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3562 - Release Date: 04/09/11 18:34:00
Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate
Thank you for the useful post/question. It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times per day. Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day. I will appreciate clarification about this issue. One solution is to take the larger dose, as Alan suggests. But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon. Is overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity? Jim On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis. I would like to be perfectly clear about this. Your suggested protocol is 3x per day of two #2 caps. That's 560mg per dose of CMO. I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder. Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO. So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder, correct? Alan On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote: About 280 mg. Be Well. Brooks. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Brooks, Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg? Jim On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases), our results (admittedly anecdotal) do endorse CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective result. This said, I would encourage total vegetarians to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive result. Be Well, Brooks. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate
Jim - if you check out Harry Diehl's (?sp) site - the dose is three capsules a day . - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Thank you for the useful post/question. It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times per day. Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day. I will appreciate clarification about this issue. One solution is to take the larger dose, as Alan suggests. But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon. Is overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity? Jim On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis. I would like to be perfectly clear about this. Your suggested protocol is 3x per day of two #2 caps. That's 560mg per dose of CMO. I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder. Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO. So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder, correct? Alan On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: About 280 mg. Be Well. Brooks. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Brooks, Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg? Jim On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases), our results (admittedly anecdotal) do endorse CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective result. This said, I would encourage total vegetarians to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive result. Be Well, Brooks. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3560 - Release Date: 04/08/11 18:34:00
Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate
Should have said - for their product, the dose is 1 capsule 3 x a day (worked for me) - Original Message - From: Jane MacRoss To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Jim - if you check out Harry Diehl's (?sp) site - the dose is three capsules a day . - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:50 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion re: Cetyl Myristoleate Thank you for the useful post/question. It appears to me at present that Brooks recommended 2 #2 caps three times per day. Since he was referring to the BAC CM, that is only 20 % CM, the actual dose of CM will be 0.2 x 600 or, 120 mg 3x day. I will appreciate clarification about this issue. One solution is to take the larger dose, as Alan suggests. But BAC recommends 1/2 teaspoon. Is overdosing only an economic issue, or is there a potential toxicity? Jim On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Brooks, thanks for your information about CMO and arthritis. I would like to be perfectly clear about this. Your suggested protocol is 3x per day of two #2 caps. That's 560mg per dose of CMO. I bought the Beyond a Century CMO powder. Half a teaspoon is 600mg, but it's only 20% CMO, so half a teaspoon is 120mg CMO. So to get a 560mg dose of CMO I need about 2.333 teaspoons of the powder, correct? Alan On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: About 280 mg. Be Well. Brooks. On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Brooks, Can you direct me to a conversion from #2 Caps to mg? Jim On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Although we have used both types of CMO ( Vegetable and Animal bases), our results (admittedly anecdotal) do endorse CMO of animal origin..as superior--in effective result. This said, I would encourage total vegetarians to employ Vegetable-base CMO-with high confidence in its positive result. Be Well, Brooks. -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3560 - Release Date: 04/08/11 18:34:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3560 - Release Date: 04/08/11 18:34:00
