Dr Robert Malone, MD, MS -- Co-INVENTOR of the M-RNA TECH, 25 plus years ago -- SAYS NO!!!!

[Douglas Haack]

Writes how a leading DUTCH Virologist is harassed for telling the TRUTH . . . 
about the JABBED M-RNA Spike Proteins and the harm they cause to human bodies 
.. . .


Update: CoronaVax safety in the Netherlands

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Let me get it right this time !! -- Micro-Siemen (mS) meter for measuring CS

[Douglas Haack]

 Let me get it right this time . . . 


 Please let me know of a reasonably priced meter -- tried Ebay: NOT MENTIONED 
"able to measure mS" -- only say "TDS", Total Dissolved Solids . . . thanks for 
your patience  . . .

Thanks, dh
  

This file has a problem -- use MS EDGE -- NOT Firefox -- Three Novavax adverse reactions in Australia

[Douglas Haack]

NOVAVAX is dangerous too -- has the patented SPIKE Protein form as Moderna 
Patent jab formula -- 

More problems might come out in the next months . . . I was waiting for this 
--- But now ??? Very unlikely . . .I jsut won't travel or cruise.

Three Novavax adverse reaction cases in Australia have similarities, as 
propaganda centers around convincing "anti-vaxxers" that Novavax is different 
from the others - The COVID Blog™

CS>MS info

[Ron]

http://www.drjohnbergman.com/disease/multiple-sclerosis/

Ron



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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[David Snowdon]

123 456 wrote:

HiI just found an older msg that I somehow missed...definitely
missed the reference regarding the cataracts.
I've been told that I have one forming on one of my eyes.
How can I find the information on this older thread.
Nothing is found on this thread.
Thx and Happy New Year
Tara
,..
  


Hi Tara,

Below are a number of messages from November 2011 and July 2009
regarding the issue of eye cataracts:

=

Subject: Fw: CS>Re Cataracts
From: "vicki hood" 
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:01:23 -0800
To: 

I did my own.  Years ago I did the research and took the best of the
research.  tried it on myself and then dogs in need. Worked every time.
Start 3 or 4 times a day, cut back according to severity of the
cataracts.  Go figure -- if it doesn't work (and it always does) it
cannot hurt you.  Buy gentle eye solution (non-sting) add 15% MS
crystals.  That would be 1 teaspoon for each ounce of eye solution.
Thats not perfect measure but close enough.   Keep everything clean as
you can.

Each eye,  1 or 2 drops RAW flax oil (not from caps but from the fridge
at the health store --- Barleans is good).  5 mins to half hour later
drop or 2 of eye solution. The dogs I treat often have this goober grub
in the corner of their eye after about 3 or 4 days.  Cataracts come off
in layers.  Now this does not correct the nearsight or farsight like
lens implant surgery.  Sure does take that piece of white sheet off of
dogs and my eyes.

I like to keep it up for maybe 6 weeks after i have cut back to couple
times a week.  Even longer if you want.  Save a dogs life.  Many people
cannot afford surgery for their dogs.  The last dog I did was 16.  It
made a whole new tailwagger.  I could see it.  Dogs with pressure behind
eye (glaucoma) usually have bulging eye.  That hurts like the worst of
migraine and needs meds from a vet.  Please do not let them suffer.
Cataracts and glaucoma are 2 different things.  I am not medically
trained.  I love the best of the research I do.  Just passing it on if
you care to try.  It worked for me and mine. 


- Original Message -
From: PTFerrance
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Re Cataracts

Hi Brickey,

What did you do with the flaxseed oil?  Did you put it in your eye?  Do
you have any literature?  How did you come upon this?

Thanks.

PT


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In a message dated 11/11/2011, patriot2...@cox.net writes:
>
> I am frantically searching for non-surgical solutions that can advert
> surgery all together or delay
>

I controlled my cataracts for several years using flaxseed oil. Actually
I used linseed oil bought from the local hardware paint department,
linseed oil is another name for flaxseed oil but it was not food grade.
It delayed surgery for 5 or 6 years. Since I receive Medicare and
cataract surgery is covered I had the surgery.

Has anyone tried mixing aloe vera and CS to get the CS past the stomach
acids?  Nutritional Living said that was a way to control Candida yeasts
in your intestines.

Brickey






Subject: RE: CS>Re Cataracts
From: "PTFerrance" 
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:42:52 -0500
To: 

Hi Vicki,

What are MS crystals?  Also, if you don't mind, what did you use as an eye
dropper for the flax oil?  Also, which variety of Barleans did you use.  I
have used it before and there are a variety of mixtures.

Thanks for your help.

PT






Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
From: "vicki hood" 
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
To: 

I did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use
pure MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes  have fillers.  99point
something is good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply.
Not to waste it is good for many things itis a supplemental food
sulphur.  A good healer.





Subject: CS>CS with MSM,cataracts
From: "Harold" 
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:08:32 -0800
To: 

I have used regular MSM powders and caps with so so results. I would
suggest you go to the link below and get the Pure Organic Sulfur
Crystals [Methyl Sulphonyl Methane]. At least look into it. Other than a
satisfied user of said product, I have no monetary involvement with Hesh
Goldstein.

Harold

www.healthtalkhawaii.com


===
These messages are from 2009 regarding the use of NAC and DMSO:


Subject: CS>Eye Health Research Report
From: "Brooks Bradley" 
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:16:27 -0400 (EDT)
To: 

Because of the quite positive results we have achieved in some limited,
but definitive, investigations ... I am moved to call two supporting
substances to the attention of list members. From among a number of
candidates addressed in searching for the most economical/effective
modalities for attenuating / preventing cataracts ... we achieved our
best --- and most rapid success using NAC (n-acetyl L-

Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[123 456]

Super news..thanks all of you.
Tara

On 1/1/15, Sandra George  wrote:
> Hi Tara - I have used for my cataracts for some ten years now the following
> -
> 1.   MSM drops which I make myself from the MSM crystals dissolved in
> distilled water
> 2.   EIS drops made by me
> 3.   Natural Cineraria eye drops - which you can purchase from Amazon.
>
> I am not going to say that they erase, stop, or arrest cataracts - however
> my eye doctors no longer mention them
> I do not ask and I can see better each year - just went to have a check up
> while in England and this was the result
> a further reduction in my prescription for miopia !
> If we heal the mind then the body follows !
> Cheers and a Happy New Year
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is everything !!!
> Sandra George
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> aliveagai...@yahoo.com
>
>
>
> On 1 Jan 2015, at 14:56, 123 456  wrote:
>
> HiI just found an older msg that I somehow missed...definitely
> missed the reference regarding the cataracts.
> I've been told that I have one forming on one of my eyes.
> How can I find the information on this older thread.
> Nothing is found on this thread.
> Thx and Happy New Year
> Tara
> ,
>
> On 10/30/14, David Snowdon  wrote:
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply
>> in November 2011, which
>> corrects her original post:
>>
>>
>> Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
>> From: "vicki hood" 
>> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
>> To: 
>>
>> i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use
>> pure
>> MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something
>> is
>> good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste
>> it
>> is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good
>> healer.
>>
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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[finplan65]

Just a "shot in the dark" question, but does anyone know of effective 
treatments for presbyopia? This is another eye ailment, mainly when the lens 
loses its ability to focus up close. Thank you

  From: Sandra George 
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List  
 Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2015 2:23 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>What are MS crystals??
   
Hi Tara - I have used for my cataracts for some ten years now the following - 
1.  MSM drops which I make myself from the MSM crystals dissolved in distilled 
water
2.  EIS drops made by me
3.  Natural Cineraria eye drops - which you can purchase from Amazon.

I am not going to say that they erase, stop, or arrest cataracts - however my 
eye doctors no longer mention them
I do not ask and I can see better each year - just went to have a check up 
while in England and this was the result
a further reduction in my prescription for miopia !  
If we heal the mind then the body follows !
Cheers and a Happy New Year
Sandee🐬
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com





On 1 Jan 2015, at 14:56, 123 456  wrote:

HiI just found an older msg that I somehow missed...definitely
missed the reference regarding the cataracts.
I've been told that I have one forming on one of my eyes.
How can I find the information on this older thread.
Nothing is found on this thread.
Thx and Happy New Year
Tara
,

On 10/30/14, David Snowdon  wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> 
> The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply
> in November 2011, which
> corrects her original post:
> 
> 
> Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
> From: "vicki hood" 
> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
> To: 
> 
> i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use
> pure
> MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something is
> good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste it
> is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good healer.
> 
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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[Sandra George]

Hi Tara - I have used for my cataracts for some ten years now the following - 
1.   MSM drops which I make myself from the MSM crystals dissolved in distilled 
water
2.   EIS drops made by me
3.   Natural Cineraria eye drops - which you can purchase from Amazon.

I am not going to say that they erase, stop, or arrest cataracts - however my 
eye doctors no longer mention them
I do not ask and I can see better each year - just went to have a check up 
while in England and this was the result
a further reduction in my prescription for miopia !   
If we heal the mind then the body follows !
Cheers and a Happy New Year
Sandee🐬
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 1 Jan 2015, at 14:56, 123 456  wrote:

HiI just found an older msg that I somehow missed...definitely
missed the reference regarding the cataracts.
I've been told that I have one forming on one of my eyes.
How can I find the information on this older thread.
Nothing is found on this thread.
Thx and Happy New Year
Tara
,

On 10/30/14, David Snowdon  wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> 
> The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply
> in November 2011, which
> corrects her original post:
> 
> 
> Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
> From: "vicki hood" 
> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
> To: 
> 
> i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use
> pure
> MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something is
> good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste it
> is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good healer.
> 
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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[Joe Huard]

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=cataracts&l=silver-list%40eskimo.com

Joe
On 2015-01-01 1:56 PM, 123 456 wrote:

HiI just found an older msg that I somehow missed...definitely
missed the reference regarding the cataracts.
I've been told that I have one forming on one of my eyes.
How can I find the information on this older thread.
Nothing is found on this thread.
Thx and Happy New Year
Tara
,

On 10/30/14, David Snowdon  wrote:

Hi Larry,

The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply
in November 2011, which
corrects her original post:


Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
From: "vicki hood" 
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
To: 

i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use
pure
MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something is
good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste it
is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good healer.


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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[123 456]

HiI just found an older msg that I somehow missed...definitely
missed the reference regarding the cataracts.
I've been told that I have one forming on one of my eyes.
How can I find the information on this older thread.
Nothing is found on this thread.
Thx and Happy New Year
Tara
,

On 10/30/14, David Snowdon  wrote:
> Hi Larry,
>
> The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply
> in November 2011, which
> corrects her original post:
>
>
> Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
> From: "vicki hood" 
> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
> To: 
>
> i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use
> pure
> MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something is
> good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste it
> is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good healer.
>
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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[Tre]

Thank you for your time looking this up 

Lymeover

lymeover.com "Natural forces within us are the true healers of disease" - 
Hippocrates. So our own far infra red is produced and sent into us with 
variable temperatures.  Ask today how this can happen. Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:01 PM, David Snowdon  wrote:

> Hi Larry,
> 
> The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply in 
> November 2011, which
> corrects her original post:
> 
> 
> Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
> From: "vicki hood" 
> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
> To: 
> 
> i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use pure
> MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something is
> good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste it
> is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good healer.
> 
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Re: CS>What are MS crystals??

[David Snowdon]

Hi Larry,

The MS crystals that Vicki refers to is for MSM.  Here is Vicki's reply 
in November 2011, which

corrects her original post:


Subject: CS>Re cataract typo its MSM
From: "vicki hood" 
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:30:49 -0800
To: 

i did a typo on the cataracts information.  It is MSM not MS.  Also use pure
MSM and not from Caps.  Caps sometimes have fillers.  99point something is
good and available at feed and supply store.  Horse supply. Not to waste it
is good for many things it is a supplemental food sulphur.  A good healer.


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CS>What are MS crystals??

[Larry Tankersley]

Thanks

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Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Jane MacRoss]

:-)  so I shall keep going with both since I am neither a mouse nor a   um 
- well dog
(nor a pharmaceutical guinea pig & I attempt to breathe less when I go outside 
so I'm not a chemtrail gvt victim either)

Jane


  Chocolate is dog poison...



It's poisonous to mice because they can't metabolize it...



  look again  at this d3 it's main ingredient is cholecalciterol a mouse 
poison

Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Dan Nave]

Chocolate is dog poison...


On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:

> It's poisonous to mice because they can't metabolize it...
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM,  wrote:
>
>> look again  at this d3 it's main ingredient is cholecalciterol a mouse
>> poison
>>
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* PT Ferrance 
>> *To:* "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 7:26 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>
>> In the US you might want to look at Biotics Research as they have a
>> product called Bio-D-Mulsion Forte.
>> PT
>>
>>
>>   ------
>>  *From:* ASL 
>> *To:* Silver-List 
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 9:17 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>
>> Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I
>> just checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it
>> shipped to America.
>> I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through
>> the postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's
>> potency?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> RaVen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quote:
>> The *art of being happy lies in the power of extracting happiness from
>> common 
>> things.*<http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/The_art_of_being_happy_lies_in_the_power_of_extracting_happiness_from_common_things./1216/>
>>
>>  ~Henry Ward 
>> Beecher<http://www.searchquotes.com/quotes/author/Henry_Ward_Beecher/>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jane MacRoss > > wrote:
>>
>>  My alt GP uses BioCeuticals D3 Drops Forte 1,000IU/drop dose tested for
>> the individual but you're probably in the US?
>>
>> Do you dowse? To see which product might suit you best?
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>>  What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of Vitamin D does
>> anyone recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is pricey.
>> I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green veggies too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Dan Nave]

It's poisonous to mice because they can't metabolize it...


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM,  wrote:

> look again  at this d3 it's main ingredient is cholecalciterol a mouse
> poison
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* PT Ferrance 
> *To:* "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 7:26 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
> In the US you might want to look at Biotics Research as they have a
> product called Bio-D-Mulsion Forte.
> PT
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* ASL 
> *To:* Silver-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2014 9:17 AM
> *Subject:* Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
> Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I
> just checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it
> shipped to America.
> I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through the
> postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's
> potency?
>
> Cheers,
> RaVen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quote:
> The *art of being happy lies in the power of extracting happiness from
> common 
> things.*<http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/The_art_of_being_happy_lies_in_the_power_of_extracting_happiness_from_common_things./1216/>
>
>  ~Henry Ward 
> Beecher<http://www.searchquotes.com/quotes/author/Henry_Ward_Beecher/>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jane MacRoss 
> wrote:
>
>  My alt GP uses BioCeuticals D3 Drops Forte 1,000IU/drop dose tested for
> the individual but you're probably in the US?
>
> Do you dowse? To see which product might suit you best?
>
> Jane
>
>
>  What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of Vitamin D does
> anyone recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is pricey.
> I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green veggies too.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[123 456]

On 1/3/14, Jane MacRoss  wrote:
> X-ray is certainly a potential problem - I have an orgone plate I put things
> on hoping to negate any harm from x-rays - you could see where they sell
> them in the US - their international number is +61 2 9080 0900 BioCeuticals
> I can't find a US stockist for you so far
>
> Jane
>
>
>   Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I
> just checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it
> shipped to America.
>   I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through the
> postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's
> potency?
>
>


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Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[mborgert]

look again  at this d3 it's main ingredient is cholecalciterol a mouse poison





 From: PT Ferrance 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
 


In the US you might want to look at Biotics Research as they have a product 
called Bio-D-Mulsion Forte.
PT





 From: ASL 
To: Silver-List  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
 


Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I just 
checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it shipped to 
America. 
I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through the 
postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's potency? 

Cheers, 
RaVen 










 
Quote: 
The art of being happy lies in the power of extracting happiness from common 
things.  
  ~Henry Ward Beecher


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jane MacRoss  
wrote:

 
>My alt GP uses BioCeuticals D3 
Drops Forte 1,000IU/drop dose tested for the individual but you're probably in 
the US?
>
>Do you dowse? To see which product might suit you 
best?
>
>Jane
>
>>
>>What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of  Vitamin D does 
>>anyone recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is  pricey.
>>I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green  veggies too.

Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[PT Ferrance]

In the US you might want to look at Biotics Research as they have a product 
called Bio-D-Mulsion Forte.
PT





 From: ASL 
To: Silver-List  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
 


Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I just 
checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it shipped to 
America. 
I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through the 
postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's potency? 

Cheers, 
RaVen 










 
Quote: 
The art of being happy lies in the power of extracting happiness from common 
things.  
  ~Henry Ward Beecher


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jane MacRoss  
wrote:

 
>My alt GP uses BioCeuticals D3 
Drops Forte 1,000IU/drop dose tested for the individual but you're probably in 
the US?
>
>Do you dowse? To see which product might suit you 
best?
>
>Jane
>
>>
>>What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of  Vitamin D does 
>>anyone recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is  pricey.
>>I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green  veggies too.

Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Jane MacRoss]

X-ray is certainly a potential problem - I have an orgone plate I put things on 
hoping to negate any harm from x-rays - you could see where they sell them in 
the US - their international number is +61 2 9080 0900 BioCeuticals I can't 
find a US stockist for you so far

Jane


  Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I just 
checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it shipped to 
America. 
  I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through the 
postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's potency? 

Re: D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[ASL]

Thank you, Jane, this is an impressive looking Vitamin D supplement. I just
checked its site and going to see if I can order this and have it shipped
to America.
I hope when we order medical items - they're not being x-rayed through the
postal? I wonder if they do that and it will diminish the medicine's
potency?

Cheers,
RaVen








Quote:
The *art of being happy lies in the power of extracting happiness from
common 
things.*

 ~Henry Ward 
Beecher


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Jane MacRoss wrote:

>  My alt GP uses BioCeuticals D3 Drops Forte 1,000IU/drop dose tested for
> the individual but you're probably in the US?
>
> Do you dowse? To see which product might suit you best?
>
> Jane
>
>
>  What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of Vitamin D does
> anyone recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is pricey.
> I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green veggies too.
>
>

D3 was / Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Jane MacRoss]

My alt GP uses BioCeuticals D3 Drops Forte 1,000IU/drop dose tested for the 
individual but you're probably in the US?

Do you dowse? To see which product might suit you best?

Jane


  What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of Vitamin D does anyone 
recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is pricey.
  I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green veggies too.

Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[ASL]

What brand that is gluten-free, soy-free, dairy-free of Vitamin D does
anyone recommend? The one that my doctor prescribes is pricey.
I'm trying to save money. I eat a lot of dark leafy green veggies too.

RaVen








Quote:
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common 
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 ~Henry Ward 
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Vicky  wrote:

>   That’s not entirely true, the rate of absorption is low because of
> the angle of the sun, especially in winter. You are much more likely to get
> a severe burn in 2hrs in Arizona than you are in 2hrs in Washington.
> Besides, most of the time we’re under cloud cover. E Washington might be
> a bit different but you still have the angle of the sun to deal with.
> University of Washington studies have recently, like the last year or
> two, shown that most residents of Washington are low to severely low in
> Vitamin D. I’m a farmer and spend most of my time outside with the animals
> and crops all summer long yet my level of Vitamin D was down at 19 last
> fall. They like it about 50<. Vit D is important in many things including,
> but not limited to controlling cholesterol, fending off cancer, and high
> blood pressure.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Da Darrin [mailto:ddarrin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:50 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>
>
> Depends where you live in Washington.  Most of the state rivals Arizonafor 
> sunshine.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Monique Sauve 
> wrote:
>
> WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so
> that could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.
>
> Monique
>
>  On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>
>  Add to that list low soil levels of selenium…it causes white muscle
> disease in sheep and goats which I’m told is the same as MS. Washington
> State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest
> rates of MS in the country.
>
>
>  ------
>
> *From:* Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>
>
> In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low
> exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The
> general public on todays’ SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually
> highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most
> cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this
> from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I
> get from iHerb
>
> Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value
> of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>
> This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially
> cancer.
>
> To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0;
> Diabetic test paper will not do !
>
> You’re  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the
> hard way.
>
> PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>
> The very best to you all for the coming year.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[PT Ferrance]

If they don't work you can just research whole food B vitamins.
PT





 From: phoenix23002 tds.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
 


RaVen... Try/research Cataplex B by Standard Process.  You take 4 - 6 per day.  
It is all natural and contains the full spectrum of B vitamins as well as the 
naturally associated factors.  Buy the small bottle (#90) first and start off 
with 2 x day  working up over a few weeks to the full dosage.  This, just in 
case it causes the same problems as brewers yeast.  It is pricey compared to 
vitamins that come out of 50 gallon drums (lol) but you know you are getting 
real nutrient vitamins.  I think you will find some reviews on Amazon.  
 
Another good B vitamin is from MegaFood.  
http://www.megafood.com/multi-vitamins/balanced-b-complex
I don't know how many you are supposed to take but I would follow the same 
routine.. buy small, start small and work up to full dosage.  Again, you can 
probably find reviews on VitaCost, Vitamin Shoppe, Amazon.
 Lola H. 


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM, RaVen  wrote:

Hi All,
>Does anyone know of an alternative to brewer's yeast for natural B complex 
>vitamins? I'm allergic to brewer's yeast - it makes me edemic (swollen). It 
>seems not enough food I eat that is high in B complex works. 
>Suggestions?
>
>
>RaVen
>
>On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>
>  About 3 tablespoons a day.
>
>ode
>
>At 08:30 AM 1/1/2014 -0800, you wrote:
> 
>Thanks for reminding me of brewers yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful 
>supplement.  Did you use the standard dosage or did you increase it?
>>PT
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Ode Coyote 
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
>>Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>
>> That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ] from 
>>fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in my feet 
>>probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
>>Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel every 
>>fiber.
>>
>>Ode
>>
>>
>>
>>At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
>> 
>>WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that 
>>could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.
>>>
>>>Monique
>>>
>>>
>>>On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>>Add to that list low soil levels of selenium&it causes white muscle disease 
>>>>in sheep and goats which Im told is the same as MS. Washington State has 
>>>>the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in 
>>>>the country.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>> From: Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net] 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
>>>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>>Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
>>>>exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The 
>>>>general public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually 
>>>>highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most 
>>>>cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this 
>>>>from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I 
>>>>get from iHerb
>>>>
>>>>Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value 
>>>>of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>>>>
>>>>This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially 
>>>>cancer.
>>>>
>>>>To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; 
>>>>Diabetic test paper will not do !
>>>>
>>>>Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the 
>>>>hard way.
>>>>
>>>>PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>>>>
>>>>The very best to you all for the coming year.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>Harold
>>
>>>>
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[phoenix23002 tds.net]

RaVen... Try/research Cataplex B by Standard Process.  You take 4 - 6 per
day.  It is all natural and contains the full spectrum of B vitamins as
well as the naturally associated factors.  Buy the small bottle (#90) first
and start off with 2 x day  working up over a few weeks to the full
dosage.  This, just in case it causes the same problems as brewers yeast.
It is pricey compared to vitamins that come out of 50 gallon drums (lol)
but you know you are getting real nutrient vitamins.  I think you will find
some reviews on Amazon.

Another good B vitamin is from MegaFood.
http://www.megafood.com/multi-vitamins/balanced-b-complex
I don't know how many you are supposed to take but I would follow the same
routine.. buy small, start small and work up to full dosage.  Again, you
can probably find reviews on VitaCost, Vitamin Shoppe, Amazon.
 Lola H.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:00 PM, RaVen  wrote:

>  Hi All,
> Does anyone know of an alternative to brewer's yeast for natural B complex
> vitamins? I'm allergic to brewer's yeast - it makes me edemic (swollen). It
> seems not enough food I eat that is high in B complex works.
> Suggestions?
>
> RaVen
>
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>   About 3 tablespoons a day.
>
> ode
>
> At 08:30 AM 1/1/2014 -0800, you wrote:
>
> Thanks for reminding me of brewers yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful
> supplement.  Did you use the standard dosage or did you increase it?
> PT
>
>
>
> *From:* Ode Coyote 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>  That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ] from
> fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in my feet
> probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
> Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel
> every fiber.
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
>
> WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that
> could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.
>
> Monique
>
>
> On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>
>
> Add to that list low soil levels of selenium&it causes white muscle
> disease in sheep and goats which Im told is the same as MS. Washington
> State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest
> rates of MS in the country.
>
>
> ------
> *From:* Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>
>
> In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low
> exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The
> general public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually
> highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most
> cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this
> from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I
> get from iHerb
>
> Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value
> of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>
> This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially
> cancer.
>
> To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0;
> Diabetic test paper will not do !
>
> Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the
> hard way.
>
> PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>
> The very best to you all for the coming year.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
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RE: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Vicky]

That's not entirely true, the rate of absorption is low because of the angle
of the sun, especially in winter. You are much more likely to get a severe
burn in 2hrs in Arizona than you are in 2hrs in Washington. Besides, most of
the time we're under cloud cover. E Washington might be a bit different but
you still have the angle of the sun to deal with. University of Washington
studies have recently, like the last year or two, shown that most residents
of Washington are low to severely low in Vitamin D. I'm a farmer and spend
most of my time outside with the animals and crops all summer long yet my
level of Vitamin D was down at 19 last fall. They like it about 50<. Vit D
is important in many things including, but not limited to controlling
cholesterol, fending off cancer, and high blood pressure.

 

  _  

From: Da Darrin [mailto:ddarrin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

 

Depends where you live in Washington.  Most of the state rivals Arizona for
sunshine.

Dave

 

On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Monique Sauve 
wrote:

WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that
could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.

Monique



On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:

Add to that list low soil levels of selenium.it causes white muscle disease
in sheep and goats which I'm told is the same as MS. Washington State has
the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in
the country.

 


  _  


From: Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

 

In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low
exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The general
public on todays' SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually highly
acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most cases
alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this from
experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I get
from iHerb

Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value of
the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].

This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially
cancer.

To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0;
Diabetic test paper will not do !

You're  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the
hard way.

PS, I did have a swimming pool too.

The very best to you all for the coming year.

 

Harold

 

 

Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[PT Ferrance]

Hi RaVen,
Have you considered dessicated liver tablets?  Have you tried to find out which 
of the B Vits causes the problem?  B6 has diuretic characteristics.
PT





 From: RaVen 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>MS  to Gary Hilt
 


Hi All,
Does anyone know of an alternative to brewer's yeast for natural B complex 
vitamins? I'm allergic to brewer's yeast - it makes me edemic (swollen). It 
seems not enough food I eat that is high in B complex works. 
Suggestions?

RaVen

On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:


  About 3 tablespoons a day.

ode

At 08:30 AM 1/1/2014 -0800, you wrote:

Thanks for reminding me of brewers
yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful supplement.  Did you use
the standard dosage or did you increase it?
>PT
>
>
>
>From: Ode Coyote

>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
> That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ]
from fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in
my feet probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
>Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel
every fiber.
>
>Ode
>
>
>
>At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
>
>WA probably also has one of the
lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that could also be involved - ie.
lack of Vitamin D.
>>
>>Monique
>>
>>
>>On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Add to that list low soil levels of
selenium&it causes white muscle disease in sheep and goats which Im
told is the same as MS. Washington State has the lowest levels of
Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in the country.
>>>
>>> 
>>>>>>
>>> From: Harold
[mailto:har...@telus.net] 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
>>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
>>>exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The general 
>>>public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually highly 
>>>acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most cases 
>>>alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this from 
>>>experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I get 
>>>from iHerb
>>>
>>>Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value of 
>>>the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>>>
>>>This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially 
>>>cancer.
>>>
>>>To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; 
>>>Diabetic test paper will not do !
>>>
>>>Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the hard 
>>>way.
>>>
>>>PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>>>
>>>The very best to you all for the coming year.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Harold
>
>>
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Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[RaVen]

Hi All,
Does anyone know of an alternative to brewer's yeast for natural B complex 
vitamins? I'm allergic to brewer's yeast - it makes me edemic (swollen). It 
seems not enough food I eat that is high in B complex works. 
Suggestions?

RaVen

On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:

  About 3 tablespoons a day.

ode

At 08:30 AM 1/1/2014 -0800, you wrote:
> Thanks for reminding me of brewers yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful 
> supplement.  Did you use the standard dosage or did you increase it?
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ode Coyote 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
> 
>  That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ] from 
> fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in my feet 
> probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
> Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel every 
> fiber.
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
>> WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that 
>> could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.
>> 
>> Monique
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>>> 
>>> Add to that list low soil levels of selenium&it causes white muscle disease 
>>> in sheep and goats which Im told is the same as MS. Washington State has 
>>> the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in 
>>> the country.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
>>> exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The 
>>> general public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually 
>>> highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most 
>>> cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this 
>>> from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I 
>>> get from iHerb
>>> 
>>> Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value 
>>> of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>>> 
>>> This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially 
>>> cancer.
>>> 
>>> To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; 
>>> Diabetic test paper will not do !
>>> 
>>> Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the 
>>> hard way.
>>> 
>>> PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>>> 
>>> The very best to you all for the coming year.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Harold
> 
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[PT Ferrance]

Thanks, Ode.  By the way there was nothing in the jpeg that was attached.PTFrom: Ode Coyote  To: silver-list@eskimo.com  Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:04 AM Subject: Re: CS>MS  to Gary Hilt   


  About 3 tablespoons a day.
ode
At 08:30 AM 1/1/2014 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks for reminding me of brewers
yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful supplement.  Did you use
the standard dosage or did you increase it?
PT


From: Ode Coyote

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

 That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ]
from fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in
my feet probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel
every fiber.
Ode

At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
WA probably also has one of the
lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that could also be involved - ie.
lack of Vitamin D.
Monique

On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:

Add to that list low soil levels of
selenium&it causes white muscle disease in sheep and goats which Im
told is the same as MS. Washington State has the lowest levels of
Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in the country.

 

From: Harold
[mailto:har...@telus.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

 

In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The general public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I get from iHerb
Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially cancer.
To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; Diabetic test paper will not do !
Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the hard way.
PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
The very best to you all for the coming year.
 
Harold

 
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[Ode Coyote]

  About 3 tablespoons a day.

ode

At 08:30 AM 1/1/2014 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks for reminding me of brewers yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful 
supplement.  Did you use the standard dosage or did you increase it?

PT



From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

 That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ] from 
fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in my 
feet probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel 
every fiber.


Ode



At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so 
that could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.


Monique


On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:


Add to that list low soil levels of selenium&it causes white muscle 
disease in sheep and goats which Im told is the same as MS. Washington 
State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest 
rates of MS in the country.




--
From: Harold [<mailto:har...@telus.net>mailto:har...@telus.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt



In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The 
general public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually 
highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most 
cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this 
from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is 
VAXA,which I get from iHerb


Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the 
value of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].


This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious 
diseases,especially cancer.


To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 
8.0; Diabetic test paper will not do !


Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the 
hard way.


PS, I did have a swimming pool too.

The very best to you all for the coming year.



Harold




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[PT Ferrance]

Thanks for reminding me of brewers yeast, Ode.  It really is a wonderful 
supplement.  Did you use the standard dosage or did you increase it?
PT





 From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2014 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MS  to Gary Hilt
 


 That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at
over 400% RDA ] from fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured
the vibrations in my feet probably caused by a breakdown in nerve
insulation.
Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel
every fiber.

Ode



At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:

WA probably also has one of the
lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that could also be involved - ie.
lack of Vitamin D.
>
>Monique
>
>
>On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>
>
>>Add to that list low soil levels of
selenium&it causes white muscle disease in sheep and goats which Im
told is the same as MS. Washington State has the lowest levels of
Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in the country.
>>
>> 
>>>>
>> From: Harold
[mailto:har...@telus.net] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>>
>> 
>>
>>In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
>>exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The general 
>>public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually highly 
>>acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most cases 
>>alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this from 
>>experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I get 
>>from iHerb
>>
>>Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value of 
>>the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>>
>>This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially 
>>cancer.
>>
>>To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; 
>>Diabetic test paper will not do !
>>
>>Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the hard 
>>way.
>>
>>PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>>
>>The very best to you all for the coming year.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Harold


 
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[Ode Coyote]

 That and B complex vitamins [ the relevant ones at over 400% RDA ] from 
fortified brewers yeast, daily for a year...cured the vibrations in my feet 
probably caused by a breakdown in nerve insulation.
Very high frequency, felt like wearing new fuzzy socks and could feel every 
fiber.


Ode



At 12:06 PM 12/31/2013 -0800, you wrote:
WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so that 
could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.


Monique


On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:


Add to that list low soil levels of selenium&it causes white muscle 
disease in sheep and goats which Im told is the same as MS. Washington 
State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest 
rates of MS in the country.




--
From: Harold [<mailto:har...@telus.net>mailto:har...@telus.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt



In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The 
general public on todaysSAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually 
highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most 
cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this 
from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which 
I get from iHerb


Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value 
of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].


This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially 
cancer.


To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; 
Diabetic test paper will not do !


Youre  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the 
hard way.


PS, I did have a swimming pool too.

The very best to you all for the coming year.



Harold



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[123 456]

The whole underlaying issue of natural food  is find naturl unpoisoned
soil to grow it in.
Tara

On 12/31/13, Neville  wrote:
> Ah how boring the world would be if we all thought the same .
> Yeah, I know it's not likely for anyone to be deficient in vitamin D here,
> but that doesn't stop people being told to partake of vitamin D supplements
> by their quacks here .
> Nice to hear you agree with me anyway….*food and vitamin deficiency*, that's
> what I said, people are looking in the wrong places, and good luck finding
> quality food containing all those yummy vitamins and minerals we need
> nowadays, that's why that line at the shop is growing longer of people
> waiting to buy supplements as each day passes.
> Natural food is not the sustenance of the future, engineered food and pills
> are.
> N.
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 17:28:19 -0600
> Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
> From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Why don't you do some research on this.  I think you're full of it...
>
> Not too likely to be low vitamin D in Australia, but if you never go out
> side without covering up and your diet is not good, especially if you have
> dark skin, maybe.  However, in Minnesota in the winter you are living off
> the fat of your land so to speak.  You will not make any vitamin D from sun.
>  Consider all the Somali women here with dark skin and everything but their
> face covered up.  They are going to be vitamin D deficient if they don't eat
> food that provides a sufficient quantity.  Even light skinned people used to
> have to get dosed with cod liver oil for vitamins A and D.  Certain diseases
> increase in proportion to your distance from the equator.  There is a lot of
> thought that this is resulting from vitamin D deficiency.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Neville  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> This is not a reply to anyone, I'm just making a statement using a modicum
> of common sense.
> I have never in my entire life heard of anything so ridiculous as low
> vitamin D.  If this were to be the case then we as a species are slowly
> dieing out and there is no hope for the continuance of civilisation.  It is
> only in recent times this low vitamin D thing has been bounced around the
> media, so my question would be *why* is there a prevalence to low vitamin D,
> it certainly ain't from lack of sunshine, again, if that were the case we
> would have been extinct years ago.
>
> They even diagnose low D here in Australia...???  Have you ever heard of
> anything more ridiculous than that...???  We get around 364 days of sunshine
> a year here and some idiot suggests we a lacking in vitamin D…WHAT THE...???
>
> That's if folks, it's all over Rover, we as a species are soon to become
> extinct from lack of vitamin D
> Gary has come closest to the reason for lack of *any* vitamins, capitalism
> and the corporation are killing us slowly with poor quality food and drink
> in every supermarket and junk food joints, even our water supply is loaded
> with poison.  Those who suggest poor ol' sun is to blame are barking up the
> wrong tree, the common man/woman should be looking at the food and produce
> which are being passed on to us for the answer to any vitamin deficiency.
>
> I find it rather strange that those of a faith denounce abortion and stem
> cell research due interference with some 'God' plan, and yet they remain
> silent when foods are being tampered with and modified every day of the
> week, meet is being engineered in test tubes, soils are being depleted of
> natural minerals etc etc, and we consume such foodstuffs?
>
> For those of a faith, may your God help you all because your fellow man
> certainly isn't.
> No reply necessary.
> N.
>
> From: k2p2...@centurytel.net
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>MS  to Gary Hilt
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:01:31 -0800
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Add to that list low soil levels of
> selenium…it causes white muscle disease in sheep and goats which I’m told is
> the same as MS. Washington State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the
> country and the highest rates of MS in the country.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Harold
> [mailto:har...@telus.net]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013
> 8:47 AM
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In the northern climes MS is linked to a
> severe lack of Vitamin D, low exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of
> supreme importance.The general pub

RE: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Neville]

Ah how boring the world would be if we all thought the same .
Yeah, I know it's not likely for anyone to be deficient in vitamin D here, but 
that doesn't stop people being told to partake of vitamin D supplements by 
their quacks here .
Nice to hear you agree with me anyway….*food and vitamin deficiency*, that's 
what I said, people are looking in the wrong places, and good luck finding 
quality food containing all those yummy vitamins and minerals we need nowadays, 
that's why that line at the shop is growing longer of people waiting to buy 
supplements as each day passes.
Natural food is not the sustenance of the future, engineered food and pills are.
N.
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 17:28:19 -0600
Subject: Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Why don't you do some research on this.  I think you're full of it...

Not too likely to be low vitamin D in Australia, but if you never go out side 
without covering up and your diet is not good, especially if you have dark 
skin, maybe.  However, in Minnesota in the winter you are living off the fat of 
your land so to speak.  You will not make any vitamin D from sun.  Consider all 
the Somali women here with dark skin and everything but their face covered up.  
They are going to be vitamin D deficient if they don't eat food that provides a 
sufficient quantity.  Even light skinned people used to have to get dosed with 
cod liver oil for vitamins A and D.  Certain diseases increase in proportion to 
your distance from the equator.  There is a lot of thought that this is 
resulting from vitamin D deficiency. 



On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Neville  wrote:




This is not a reply to anyone, I'm just making a statement using a modicum of 
common sense.
I have never in my entire life heard of anything so ridiculous as low vitamin 
D.  If this were to be the case then we as a species are slowly dieing out and 
there is no hope for the continuance of civilisation.  It is only in recent 
times this low vitamin D thing has been bounced around the media, so my 
question would be *why* is there a prevalence to low vitamin D, it certainly 
ain't from lack of sunshine, again, if that were the case we would have been 
extinct years ago.

They even diagnose low D here in Australia...???  Have you ever heard of 
anything more ridiculous than that...???  We get around 364 days of sunshine a 
year here and some idiot suggests we a lacking in vitamin D…WHAT THE...???

That's if folks, it's all over Rover, we as a species are soon to become 
extinct from lack of vitamin D
Gary has come closest to the reason for lack of *any* vitamins, capitalism and 
the corporation are killing us slowly with poor quality food and drink in every 
supermarket and junk food joints, even our water supply is loaded with poison.  
Those who suggest poor ol' sun is to blame are barking up the wrong tree, the 
common man/woman should be looking at the food and produce which are being 
passed on to us for the answer to any vitamin deficiency.

I find it rather strange that those of a faith denounce abortion and stem cell 
research due interference with some 'God' plan, and yet they remain silent when 
foods are being tampered with and modified every day of the week, meet is being 
engineered in test tubes, soils are being depleted of natural minerals etc etc, 
and we consume such foodstuffs?

For those of a faith, may your God help you all because your fellow man 
certainly isn't.
No reply necessary.
N.

From: k2p2...@centurytel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>MS  to Gary Hilt
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:01:31 -0800

















Add to that list low soil levels of
selenium…it causes white muscle disease in sheep and goats which I’m told is
the same as MS. Washington State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the
country and the highest rates of MS in the country.


 










From: Harold
[mailto:har...@telus.net] 

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013
8:47 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt




 








In the northern climes MS is linked to a
severe lack of Vitamin D, low exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of
supreme importance.The general public on todays’ SAD [Standard American Diet]
regimen is usually highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this
will in most cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I
know this from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is
VAXA,which I get from iHerb






Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or
an Aquarium will know the value of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].






This acidic condition is invariably
linked to serious diseases,especially cancer.






To test for pH get pH test paper marked
in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; Diabetic test paper will not do !






You’re  listening to some one who
had to learn all this health stuff the ha

Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Dan Nave]

Why don't you do some research on this.  I think you're full of it...

Not too likely to be low vitamin D in Australia, but if you never go out
side without covering up and your diet is not good, especially if you have
dark skin, maybe.  However, in Minnesota in the winter you are living off
the fat of your land so to speak.  You will not make any vitamin D from
sun.  Consider all the Somali women here with dark skin and everything but
their face covered up.  They are going to be vitamin D deficient if they
don't eat food that provides a sufficient quantity.  Even light skinned
people used to have to get dosed with cod liver oil for vitamins A and D.
Certain diseases increase in proportion to your distance from the equator.
There is a lot of thought that this is resulting from vitamin D deficiency.


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Neville  wrote:

> This is not a reply to anyone, I'm just making a statement using a modicum
> of common sense.
>
> I have never in my entire life heard of anything so ridiculous as low
> vitamin D.  If this were to be the case then we as a species are slowly
> dieing out and there is no hope for the continuance of civilisation.  It is
> only in recent times this low vitamin D thing has been bounced around the
> media, so my question would be *why* is there a prevalence to low vitamin
> D, it certainly ain't from lack of sunshine, again, if that were the case
> we would have been extinct years ago.
>
> They even diagnose low D here in Australia...???  Have you ever heard of
> anything more ridiculous than that...???  We get around 364 days of
> sunshine a year here and some idiot suggests we a lacking in vitamin D…WHAT
> THE...???
>
> That's if folks, it's all over Rover, we as a species are soon to become
> extinct from lack of vitamin D
>
> Gary has come closest to the reason for lack of *any* vitamins, capitalism
> and the corporation are killing us slowly with poor quality food and drink
> in every supermarket and junk food joints, even our water supply is loaded
> with poison.  Those who suggest poor ol' sun is to blame are barking up the
> wrong tree, the common man/woman should be looking at the food and produce
> which are being passed on to us for the answer to any vitamin deficiency.
>
> I find it rather strange that those of a faith denounce abortion and stem
> cell research due interference with some 'God' plan, and yet they remain
> silent when foods are being tampered with and modified every day of the
> week, meet is being engineered in test tubes, soils are being depleted of
> natural minerals etc etc, and we consume such foodstuffs?
>
> For those of a faith, may your God help you all because your fellow man
> certainly isn't.
>
> No reply necessary.
>
> N.
>
> --
> From: k2p2...@centurytel.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>MS to Gary Hilt
> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:01:31 -0800
>
>
>  Add to that list low soil levels of selenium…it causes white muscle
> disease in sheep and goats which I’m told is the same as MS. Washington
> State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest
> rates of MS in the country.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>
>
> In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low
> exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The
> general public on todays’ SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually
> highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most
> cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this
> from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I
> get from iHerb
>
> Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value
> of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>
> This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially
> cancer.
>
> To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0;
> Diabetic test paper will not do !
>
> You’re  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the
> hard way.
>
> PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>
> The very best to you all for the coming year.
>
>
>
> Harold
>

RE: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Neville]

This is not a reply to anyone, I'm just making a statement using a modicum of 
common sense.
I have never in my entire life heard of anything so ridiculous as low vitamin 
D.  If this were to be the case then we as a species are slowly dieing out and 
there is no hope for the continuance of civilisation.  It is only in recent 
times this low vitamin D thing has been bounced around the media, so my 
question would be *why* is there a prevalence to low vitamin D, it certainly 
ain't from lack of sunshine, again, if that were the case we would have been 
extinct years ago.
They even diagnose low D here in Australia...???  Have you ever heard of 
anything more ridiculous than that...???  We get around 364 days of sunshine a 
year here and some idiot suggests we a lacking in vitamin D…WHAT THE...???
That's if folks, it's all over Rover, we as a species are soon to become 
extinct from lack of vitamin D
Gary has come closest to the reason for lack of *any* vitamins, capitalism and 
the corporation are killing us slowly with poor quality food and drink in every 
supermarket and junk food joints, even our water supply is loaded with poison.  
Those who suggest poor ol' sun is to blame are barking up the wrong tree, the 
common man/woman should be looking at the food and produce which are being 
passed on to us for the answer to any vitamin deficiency.
I find it rather strange that those of a faith denounce abortion and stem cell 
research due interference with some 'God' plan, and yet they remain silent when 
foods are being tampered with and modified every day of the week, meet is being 
engineered in test tubes, soils are being depleted of natural minerals etc etc, 
and we consume such foodstuffs?
For those of a faith, may your God help you all because your fellow man 
certainly isn't.
No reply necessary.
N.

From: k2p2...@centurytel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>MS  to Gary Hilt
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:01:31 -0800

















Add to that list low soil levels of
selenium…it causes white muscle disease in sheep and goats which I’m told is
the same as MS. Washington State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the
country and the highest rates of MS in the country.

 









From: Harold
[mailto:har...@telus.net] 

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013
8:47 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt



 







In the northern climes MS is linked to a
severe lack of Vitamin D, low exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of
supreme importance.The general public on todays’ SAD [Standard American Diet]
regimen is usually highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this
will in most cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I
know this from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is
VAXA,which I get from iHerb





Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or
an Aquarium will know the value of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].





This acidic condition is invariably
linked to serious diseases,especially cancer.





To test for pH get pH test paper marked
in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; Diabetic test paper will not do !





You’re  listening to some one who
had to learn all this health stuff the hard way.





PS, I did have a swimming pool too.





The very best to you all for the coming
year.





 





Harold







  

Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Da Darrin]

Depends where you live in Washington.  Most of the state rivals Arizona for
sunshine.
Dave


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Monique Sauve wrote:

>  WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so
> that could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.
>
> Monique
>
>
> On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:
>
>  Add to that list low soil levels of selenium…it causes white muscle
> disease in sheep and goats which I’m told is the same as MS. Washington
> State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest
> rates of MS in the country.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net ]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* CS>MS to Gary Hilt
>
>
>
> In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low
> exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The
> general public on todays’ SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually
> highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most
> cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this
> from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I
> get from iHerb
>
> Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value
> of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
>
> This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially
> cancer.
>
> To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0;
> Diabetic test paper will not do !
>
> You’re  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the
> hard way.
>
> PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
>
> The very best to you all for the coming year.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>

Re: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Monique Sauve]

WA probably also has one of the lowest rates of sunshine in the US so 
that could also be involved - ie. lack of Vitamin D.


Monique


On 12/31/2013 9:01 AM, Vicky wrote:


Add to that list low soil levels of selenium...it causes white muscle 
disease in sheep and goats which I'm told is the same as MS. 
Washington State has the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and 
the highest rates of MS in the country.




*From:*Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* CS>MS to Gary Hilt

In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low 
exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The 
general public on todays' SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is 
usually highly acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this 
will in most cases alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie 
GERD. I know this from experience.A good supplement to take re acidic 
problem is VAXA,which I get from iHerb


Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the 
value of the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].


This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious 
diseases,especially cancer.


To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 
8.0; Diabetic test paper will not do !


You're listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff 
the hard way.


PS, I did have a swimming pool too.

The very best to you all for the coming year.

Harold

RE: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Vicky]

Add to that list low soil levels of selenium.it causes white muscle disease
in sheep and goats which I'm told is the same as MS. Washington State has
the lowest levels of Selenium in the country and the highest rates of MS in
the country.

 

  _  

From: Harold [mailto:har...@telus.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 8:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>MS to Gary Hilt

 

In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low
exposure to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The general
public on todays' SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually highly
acidic.The diet has to to be radically altered. this will in most cases
alleviate bloating and other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this from
experience.A good supplement to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I get
from iHerb

Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value of
the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].

This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially
cancer.

To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0;
Diabetic test paper will not do !

You're  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the
hard way.

PS, I did have a swimming pool too.

The very best to you all for the coming year.

 

Harold

CS>MS to Gary Hilt

[Harold]

In the northern climes MS is linked to a severe lack of Vitamin D, low exposure 
to sunlight.Also, a persons pH is of supreme importance.The general public on 
todays’ SAD [Standard American Diet] regimen is usually highly acidic.The diet 
has to to be radically altered. this will in most cases alleviate bloating and 
other gastric problems,ie GERD. I know this from experience.A good supplement 
to take re acidic problem is VAXA,which I get from iHerb
Anyone who has had a swimming pool,and/or an Aquarium will know the value of 
the right pH [Potential Hydrogen].
This acidic condition is invariably linked to serious diseases,especially 
cancer.
To test for pH get pH test paper marked in .2 increments from 5.5 to 8.0; 
Diabetic test paper will not do !
You’re  listening to some one who had to learn all this health stuff the hard 
way.
PS, I did have a swimming pool too.
The very best to you all for the coming year.

Harold

RE: CS>LDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

[Bob Banever]

Marlene,

 

 Many people have reported relief from MS symptoms by eating a gluten
free diet.  No wheat in any form.  Try it if you haven't already.  It'll
take 1 to 3 months to see the benefit if you have a wheat intolerance.  ! in
3 people do!

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: Rowena [mailto:new...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

 

Thanks Marlene for this info.  People who report back on their treatments,
especially successful ones, benefit more than the people on the list, as we
all have friends with problems.  This information is going to a friend in
Geraldton, Western Australia, now.  (When she lived near me, she used to get
CS from me; I don't know what she is able to get now!)
Rowena



On 5/11/2012 11:33 PM, Marlene Hanson wrote:

I have been using many treatments such as exercise, iodine, mms, CS and LDN
over the years to control my MS and reduce damage. I take 4.5 mg LDN at 9;30

 

 every night This is major. LDN will stop the immune system for several
hours and allow it to build up endorphins. The immune system can become
aware of the

 

 difference between our tissues and foreign invaders. LDN has been very
effective for me. I believe keeping the immune system calm is the answer for
me. I also

 

 have my food allergies tested and either desensitized or refrained from
them. I also had my dental work cleaned up and metals removed from my mouth.
When 

 

I finished the metal replacement I did the IV chelation of Mercury, Lead,
arsenic, etc. I refrain from sugar and all artificial sweeteners I reduced
and alleviated gluten,

 

 stimulants, preservatives, alcohol, chicken eggs, and milk products. I try
to avoid stressful situations and people. Having physical injuries has
always stimulated the

 

 MS process. Having bad emotional attractions are also bad for my health.
Having the mental approach I have chosen has benefited me as well. I try to
accept all

 

 that has come to my life as a blessing and something to feel thankful for.
I feel some of the blessing is the adventure of changing the situation by
learning how to

 

 deal with it and knowing that it is what is making me who I am. I had a
long term remission 8 years and was able to repair much of the brain damage
then in May 

 

had another auto accident trauma and am experiencing symptoms again. My
holistic Clinic is giving me IV's which are currently helping me and
reducing current 

 

symptoms and allowing me to return to active normal life again. 

 

 I have so much to be thankful for. The people on this list and their
suggestions have given me many blessings and support, Thank you MH 

 

Re: CS>LDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

[Rowena]

Thanks Marlene for this info. People who report back on their 
treatments, especially successful ones, benefit more than the people on 
the list, as we all have friends with problems.  This information is 
going to a friend in Geraldton, Western Australia, now.  (When she lived 
near me, she used to get CS from me; I don't know what she is able to 
get now!)

Rowena


On 5/11/2012 11:33 PM, Marlene Hanson wrote:
I have been using many treatments such as exercise, iodine, mms, CS 
and LDN over the years to control my MS and reduce damage. I take 4.5 
mg LDN at 9;30
 every night This is major. LDN will stop the immune system for 
several hours and allow it to build up endorphins. The immune system 
can become aware of the
 difference between our tissues and foreign invaders. LDN has been 
very effective for me. I believe keeping the immune system calm is the 
answer for me. I also
 have my food allergies tested and either desensitized or refrained 
from them. I also had my dental work cleaned up and metals removed 
from my mouth. When
I finished the metal replacement I did the IV chelation of Mercury, 
Lead, arsenic, etc. I refrain from sugar and all artificial sweeteners 
I reduced and alleviated gluten,
 stimulants, preservatives, alcohol, chicken eggs, and milk products. 
I try to avoid stressful situations and people. Having physical 
injuries has always stimulated the
 MS process. Having bad emotional attractions are also bad for my 
health. Having the mental approach I have chosen has benefited me as 
well. I try to accept all
 that has come to my life as a blessing and something to feel thankful 
for. I feel some of the blessing is the adventure of changing the 
situation by learning how to
 deal with it and knowing that it is what is making me who I am. I had 
a long term remission 8 years and was able to repair much of the brain 
damage then in May
had another auto accident trauma and am experiencing symptoms again. 
My  holistic Clinic is giving me IV's which are currently helping me 
and reducing current

symptoms and allowing me to return to active normal life again.
 I have so much to be thankful for. The people on this list and their 
suggestions have given me many blessings and support, Thank you MH

Re: CS>LDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

[PT Ferrance]

I read an account of a person with MS that had IV treatment with colloidal 
silver.  They wrote it was very helpful for getting at deep-seated virus 
contamination.
PT





From: Marlene Hanson 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Mon, November 5, 2012 10:34:20 AM
Subject: CS>LDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

 
I have been using many treatments such as exercise, iodine,  mms, CS and LDN 
over the years to control my MS and reduce damage. I take 4.5 mg  LDN at 9;30
 
 every night This is major. LDN will stop the immune  system for several hours 
and allow it to build up endorphins. The immune system  can become aware of the
 
 difference between our tissues and foreign invaders.  LDN has been very 
effective for me. I believe keeping the immune system calm is  the answer for 
me. I also
 
 have my food allergies tested and either desensitized  or refrained from them. 
I also had my dental work cleaned up and metals removed  from my mouth. When 

 
I finished the metal replacement I did the IV chelation of  Mercury, Lead, 
arsenic, etc. I refrain from sugar and all artificial sweeteners  I reduced and 
alleviated gluten,
 
 stimulants, preservatives, alcohol, chicken eggs, and  milk products. I try to 
avoid stressful situations and people. Having physical  injuries has always 
stimulated the
 
 MS process. Having bad emotional attractions are also  bad for my health. 
Having the mental approach I have chosen has benefited me as  well. I try to 
accept all
 
 that has come to my life as a blessing and something to  feel thankful for. I 
feel some of the blessing is the adventure of changing the  situation by 
learning how to
 
 deal with it and knowing that it is what is making me  who I am. I had a long 
term remission 8 years and was able to repair much of the  brain damage then in 
May 

 
had another auto accident trauma and am experiencing symptoms  again. My  
holistic Clinic is giving me IV's which are currently  helping me and reducing 
current 

 
symptoms and allowing me to return to active normal life  again. 
 
 I have so much to be thankful for. The people on  this list and their 
suggestions have given me many blessings and  support, Thank you MH 

Re: CS>Ms cure (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Please note that it's very quickly gotten into the mainstream media  
that vitamin D may completely prevent MS.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article5672308.ece

From all I've read to date, the evidence for this is very strong.




On Tuesday, Jul 20, 2010, at 05:58 Asia/Tokyo, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV  
USA AMC wrote:



Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Some Doctor overseas I think  developed a MS cure on idea that
MS was caused by constriction on blood vessels in brain and Iron  
deposits.

Developed cure for his Wife if I remember right.
I some of this a time back misplaced the original one but others are  
test it

also.
Found the article Here it is with several others on subject.
I was very interested because I lost a Sister to MS.
If short cut does not come through look up, ends up it was an Italian
Doctor.
Doctor cures wife of MS


http://www.gizmag.com/ccsvi-multiple-sclerosis-ms-cure-zamboni/13447/





http://www.everydayhealth.com/blog/trevis-life-with-multiple- 
sclerosis-ms/a-

controversial-new-cure-for-multiple-sclerosis/



-http://singularityhub.com/2010/03/22/cure-for-multiple-sclerosis- 
verified-i

n-latest-research-trials-coming-soon/


Bob



http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/ 
Au

g/Iroha%20et%20al.htm

Antibacterial efficacy of colloidal silver alone and in combination  
with

other antibiotics on isolates from wound Infections

"A total of ten clinical bacterial isolates comprising five isolates of
Escherichia coli isolated from surgical wound patients at the Federal
Medical Centre, Abakaliki and five isolates of Staphylococcus aureus
isolated from the wound sites of burnt patients at the University of
Nigeria Teaching Hospital, Enugu were evaluated for their  
susceptibility

to colloidal silver at 5 and 20 ppm using agar dilution method and the
killing rate technique. Also, interaction studies between colloidal
silver and some conventional antibiotics were carried out against the
clinical isolates of Escherichia coli and S. aureus using disc  
diffusion

technique. The result of the study shows that the test organisms were
sensitive to the colloidal silver at both concentrations and also to
some of the antibiotics in the paper disc. The killing rate studies
revealed that the colloidal silver is highly bactericidal against the
test isolates at both concentrations. The drug interaction study showed
no antagonism, indicating that concomitant use of colloidal silver with
these antibiotics may not affect the therapeutic efficacy of either of
these agents."


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Re: CS>Ms cure (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

 to this question. The uptake of radiolabeled 
substrates by both ATP hydrolysis and proton 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-transport>co-transport may be blocked by 
exposure to HOCl preceding loss of 
viability.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref1-0>[1] 
From this observation, it proposed that HOCl blocks uptake of nutrients by 
inactivating transport 
proteins.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref1-0>[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref9-20>[21]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref59-35>[36]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref13-37>[38] 
The question of loss of glucose oxidation has been further explored in 
terms of loss of respiration. Venkobachar et 
al.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref96-38>[39] 
found that succinic dehydrogenase was inhibited in vitro by HOCl, which led 
to the investigation of the possibility that disruption of 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_transport>electron transport could 
be the cause of bacterial inactivation. Albrich et 
al.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref3-4>[5] 
subsequently found that HOCl destroys 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome>cytochromes and 
**<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron-sulfur_cluster>iron-sulfur 
clusters** and observed that oxygen uptake is abolished by HOCl and 
adenine nucleotides are lost. Also observed was, that irreversible 
oxidation of <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome>cytochromes 
paralleled the loss of respiratory activity. One way of addressing the loss 
of oxygen uptake was by studying the effects of HOCl on succinate dependent 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_transport>electron 
transport.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref43-39>[40] 
Rosen et 
al.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref79-33>[34] 
found that levels of reductable 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome>cytochromes in HOCl-treated cells 
were normal, and these cells were unable to reduce them. Succinate 
dehydrogenase was also inhibited by HOCl, stopping the flow of electrons to 
oxygen. Later 
studies<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref71-31>[32] 
revealed that Ubiquinol oxidase activity ceases first, and the still-active 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome>cytochromes reduce the remaining 
quinone. The <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome>cytochromes then pass 
the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron>electrons to 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen>oxygen, which explains why the 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome>cytochromes cannot be reoxidized, 
as observed by Rosen et 
al.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref79-33>[34] 
However, this line of inquiry was ended when Albrich et 
al.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypochlorous_acid#cite_note-ref2-7>[8] 
found that cellular inactivation precedes loss of respiration by using a 
flow mixing system that allowed evaluation of viability on much smaller 
time scales. This group found that cells capable of respiring could not 
divide after exposure to HOCl.


..and a WHOLE BUNCH MORE..

Humm  "e.g. You can work out that iron II hydroxide is insoluble and that 
iron II sulfate and sodium hydroxide [the other "BE" electrochemical] are 
soluble "


Exactly what sort of Iron ARE those Iron deposits?
[Hook yerself up and have a boiled egg with onions?]

For better or worse, "BE" just might do "something" to MS and Silver play 
some sort of roleHelliphino Rhinopreposterous  [a very confused 
aminal]  what.

..now for a big bowl of Possibility Soup and see what comes out the other end.

Ode


At 04:58 PM 7/19/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Some Doctor overseas I think  developed a MS cure on idea that
MS was caused by constriction on blood vessels in brain and Iron deposits.
Developed cure for his Wife if I remember right.
I some of this a time back misplaced the original one but others are test it
also.
Found the article Here it is with several others on subject.
I was very interested because I lost a Sister to MS.
If short cut does not come through look up, ends up it was an Italian
Doctor.
Doctor cures wife of MS


http://www.gizmag.com/ccsvi-multiple-sclerosis-ms-cure-zamboni/13447/





http://www.everydayhealth.com/blog/trevis-life-with-multiple-sclerosis-ms/a-
controversial-new-cure-for-multiple-sclerosis/



-http://singularityhub.com/2010/03/22/cure-for-multiple-sclerosis-verified-i
n-latest-research-trials-coming-soon/


Bob



http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/Au
g/Iroha%20et%20al.htm

Antibacterial efficacy of coll

CS>MS

[Shirley Reed]

   I have heard that Vitamin D3 is good for this---very, very good.   pj



  


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Re: CS>Ms cure (UNCLASSIFIED)--MS testimony video...amazing --healing and out of wheelchair after 11 years...weight loss

[carolG]

Can't brag enough about this video watched and just heard of.
You will be glued to 10 minutes of this interview!  She is healed, went from 
305 
to 120, out of wheelchair after 11 years, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlXXg49vzMU

carol

CS>Ms cure (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Some Doctor overseas I think  developed a MS cure on idea that
MS was caused by constriction on blood vessels in brain and Iron deposits.
Developed cure for his Wife if I remember right.
I some of this a time back misplaced the original one but others are test it
also.
Found the article Here it is with several others on subject.
I was very interested because I lost a Sister to MS.
If short cut does not come through look up, ends up it was an Italian
Doctor.
Doctor cures wife of MS


http://www.gizmag.com/ccsvi-multiple-sclerosis-ms-cure-zamboni/13447/





http://www.everydayhealth.com/blog/trevis-life-with-multiple-sclerosis-ms/a-
controversial-new-cure-for-multiple-sclerosis/



-http://singularityhub.com/2010/03/22/cure-for-multiple-sclerosis-verified-i
n-latest-research-trials-coming-soon/


Bob



http://www.academicjournals.org/sre/abstracts/abstracts/abstracts2007/Au
g/Iroha%20et%20al.htm

Antibacterial efficacy of colloidal silver alone and in combination with
other antibiotics on isolates from wound Infections

"A total of ten clinical bacterial isolates comprising five isolates of
Escherichia coli isolated from surgical wound patients at the Federal
Medical Centre, Abakaliki and five isolates of Staphylococcus aureus
isolated from the wound sites of burnt patients at the University of
Nigeria Teaching Hospital, Enugu were evaluated for their susceptibility
to colloidal silver at 5 and 20 ppm using agar dilution method and the
killing rate technique. Also, interaction studies between colloidal
silver and some conventional antibiotics were carried out against the
clinical isolates of Escherichia coli and S. aureus using disc diffusion
technique. The result of the study shows that the test organisms were
sensitive to the colloidal silver at both concentrations and also to
some of the antibiotics in the paper disc. The killing rate studies
revealed that the colloidal silver is highly bactericidal against the
test isolates at both concentrations. The drug interaction study showed
no antagonism, indicating that concomitant use of colloidal silver with
these antibiotics may not affect the therapeutic efficacy of either of
these agents."


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CS>MS and anecdotal evidence

[Steve G]

Hannek,

I pretty much agree with you.   I'm always skeptical of anecdotal evidence 
because it is so easy to have it lead down the wrong path.   The thing is, when 
you are trying to find out what is making your body go crazy, it becomes 
extremely personal, and you don't have the luxury of pursuing strictly 
scientific research. You have to figure out what you can with the best 
information you can get and make the best decisions you can.

Just because your suspicions can't be proven through the standard , doesn't 
mean they aren't true.  Best of luck with your efforts.







  

Re: CS>MS cure

[Richard Goodwin]

When I was in New Zealand in the 70s I couldn't believe the number of people I 
saw with really bad complexions.  Figured it was lack of sun maybe, or lack of 
vitamins.





From: Pat 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:45:04 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure


I sent this link to the BoneSmart forum and a couple of people there have sent 
it on to friends.  I didn't know that there is a lot of MS in New Zealand.  
They also have problems with low vitamin D levels there, especially in the 
south island.





From: Ross Craig 


 
Read all about this stunning news:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/

Re: CS>MS cure

[Pat]

I sent this link to the BoneSmart forum and a couple of people there have sent 
it on to friends.  I didn't know that there is a lot of MS in New Zealand.  
They also have problems with low vitamin D levels there, especially in the 
south island.





From: Ross Craig 


 
Read all about this stunning news:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/


  

Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Arterial plaque, I have read, may form in response to inflammation 
resulting from pathogens.


If so,  EIS could have an effect by killing the pathogens that cause 
the buildup.


Eventually, the body might clear out the plaque.

It may be that something similar occurs in the brain, which might be 
the reason EIS was reported useful by one former member of this list, 
now deceased.


This is speculation but might be useful to anyone doing research on the 
topic.






On Monday, Nov 30, 2009, at 03:22 Asia/Tokyo, Norton, Steve wrote:

I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking 
about why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect 
arterial plaque at all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played 
a more significant role than just increasing the effectiveness of the 
CS by increasing oxygen to the brain. Thereby reducing the effect of 
the partially blocked artery. I see this as possibly an additional 
support of oxygen therapies such as H2O2 and ozone.

- Steve N





From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA 
could clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have 
been discussed recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did 
file the info for future reference.

- Steve N





From: craehow...@juno.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment

After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it 
interesting that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad 
that someone we knew who indicated that CS had made a significant 
difference in her condition lost her life; and we need to pass along 
her protocols that she shared with her story; but also when we become 
aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also needs to be discussed.


If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the 
surgery indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone 
have or know of someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we 
all know (with CS use) that there is skepticism and total disregard by 
most of the medical profession regarding this. 


I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial 
subject.


connie




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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Norton, Steve]

I have inhaled 3% H2O2 and 3% H2O2 mixed 50/50 with EIS using a nebulizer. The 
straight 3% H2O2 is a little harsh so I would go no stronger than that. I think 
it is a good way to oxygenate the blood but you should start cautiously. One 
smoker had to be rushed to the ER because the H2O2 caused large amount of 
nicotine from lung deposits to be released into the blood stream causing an 
overdose. 
- Steve N



From: Larry Biggar  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 15:03:36 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment 


Hello Steve! I am concidering buying a nebulizer. I have sprayed my throat and 
nostrils with my home made CS. It helped alot! But i'm just wondering that if i 
put in some H2O2 or something else. The ultimate nebulizer might get it down 
into my lungs even more. Do you or anyone have any ideas or adivice? I'm not 
going to ask my Dr. at VA. Thanks, Larry
 
 


--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Norton, Steve  wrote:



From: Norton, Steve 
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:22 AM


I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking 
about why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect arterial 
plaque at all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played a more 
significant role than just increasing the effectiveness of the CS by increasing 
oxygen to the brain. Thereby reducing the effect of the partially blocked 
artery. I see this as possibly an additional support of oxygen therapies such 
as H2O2 and ozone.
- Steve N



From: Norton, Steve  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment 


I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA 
could clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been 
discussed recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the info 
for future reference.
- Steve N



From: craehow...@juno.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
    Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment 


After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it 
interesting that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that 
someone we knew who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her 
condition lost her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she 
shared with her story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or 
not) that also needs to be discussed.
If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the 
surgery indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or 
know of someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS 
use) that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical 
profession regarding this.  
I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial 
subject.
connie


 
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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Larry Biggar]

Hello Steve! I am concidering buying a nebulizer. I have sprayed my throat and 
nostrils with my home made CS. It helped alot! But i'm just wondering that if i 
put in some H2O2 or something else. The ultimate nebulizer might get it down 
into my lungs even more. Do you or anyone have any ideas or adivice? I'm not 
going to ask my Dr. at VA. Thanks, Larry
 
 


--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Norton, Steve  wrote:


From: Norton, Steve 
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 10:22 AM



I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking about 
why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect arterial plaque at 
all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played a more significant role 
than just increasing the effectiveness of the CS by increasing oxygen to the 
brain. Thereby reducing the effect of the partially blocked artery. I see this 
as possibly an additional support of oxygen therapies such as H2O2 and ozone.
- Steve N



From: Norton, Steve  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment 


I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA could 
clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been discussed 
recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the info for 
future reference.
- Steve N



From: craehow...@juno.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment 


After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting 
that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that someone we knew 
who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost 
her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her 
story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also 
needs to be discussed.
If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know of 
someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS use) 
that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession 
regarding this.  
I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.
connie

 
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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Dan Nave]

The Vitamin C - Lecithin mix may work to clear out the plaque.

Dan


On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Norton, Steve  wrote:
> I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA could
> clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been
> discussed recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the
> info for future reference.
> - Steve N
> 
> From: craehow...@juno.com 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
> Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment
>
> After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it
> interesting that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that
> someone we knew who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in
> her condition lost her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that
> she shared with her story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough
> (CS or not) that also needs to be discussed.
>
> If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery
> indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know
> of someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS
> use) that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical
> profession regarding this.
>
> I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial
> subject.
>
> connie
>
> 
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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Norton, Steve]

I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking about 
why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect arterial plaque at 
all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played a more significant role 
than just increasing the effectiveness of the CS by increasing oxygen to the 
brain. Thereby reducing the effect of the partially blocked artery. I see this 
as possibly an additional support of oxygen therapies such as H2O2 and ozone.
- Steve N



From: Norton, Steve  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment 


I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA could 
clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been discussed 
recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the info for 
future reference.
- Steve N



From: craehow...@juno.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment 



After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting 
that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that someone we knew 
who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost 
her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her 
story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also 
needs to be discussed.

If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know of 
someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS use) 
that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession 
regarding this.  

I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.

connie



 
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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Norton, Steve]

I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA could 
clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been discussed 
recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the info for 
future reference.
- Steve N



From: craehow...@juno.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment 



After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting 
that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that someone we knew 
who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost 
her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her 
story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also 
needs to be discussed.

If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know of 
someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS use) 
that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession 
regarding this.  

I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.

connie



 
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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Sandee George]

Agreed Steve so very true !!!
Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Steve]

Well, I didn't comment on the MS cure article, but I did get pretty excited.  
Read the article out loud to my wife and emailed it to a few folks.    I think 
this is great when something like this comes around and turns the 
traditional-thinking medical world on its ear.

The groups that exist to find a cure for MS or other 'uncurable' diseases know 
full well that a true cure or corrective procedure would put them out of 
business.  This is when we find out whether the various research groups are 
really trying to cure this thing, or just making an appearance and trashing any 
real breakthroughs so that they will always be needed.

Same comment could be made for various civil rights groups.. nobody wants 
to put an end to the gravy train, so nobody will ever admit that the compelling 
reasons for their existence are no longer quite so compelling and will have to 
constantly do what they can to exaggerate things in order to justify their 
continued existence.   But this is another topic.  

Steve




  

Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Ross Craig]

Thank you connie for your post. I was mildly surprised at the lack of interest 
in this breakthrough. I know many people  were elated at the possibility of 
FIXing this terrible problem. Only Ode seemed to get it.

The MS societies are not enthusiastic about it either. I guess the reason for 
that is they would be totally redundant if this procedure becomes widly known 
and practiced.

Oh, of course the big pharmas too, as all their autoimmune drugs used to treat 
it would drop off their profit  lists.

Also of interest, is the method of treatment. It may be applicable to other 
ailments too, not just MS. What other symptoms are a result of blocked veins, 
and given symtomatic names that the pharmas could make a ton of dough on. Just 
wondering.

My sister, who thought she had a cataract problem, recently found out it was 
due to a Branch Vein Occlusion, not a cataract at all.

Ross
  - Original Message - 
  From: craehow...@juno.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:11 AM
  Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment


  After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting 
that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that someone we knew 
who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost 
her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her 
story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also 
needs to be discussed.

  If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know of 
someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS use) 
that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession 
regarding this.  

  I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.

  connie



   
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[craehow...@juno.com]

After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting 
that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that someone we knew 
who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost 
her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her 
story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also 
needs to be discussed.
If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know of 
someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS use) 
that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession 
regarding this.  
I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.
connie

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CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

[Alchemysa]

Steve.

As I recall, Nancy was posting here and on other lists until not long  
before here death.  I got the impression the MS  had improved  
significantly over the years but was never really cured.  At one  
point she said she was 95% OK. Perhaps it had stated to worsen again,  
hence the hot tub therapy. I'm sure she would have been aware of the  
danger but underestimated it nevertheless. Overconfidence I guess.



David




From: "Norton, Steve" 
Date: 28 November 2009 11:12:56 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.


How terribly sad and unfortunate. I take it that her MS was only in  
remission and had returned after her post in 2002? In her post she  
seemed intelligent, determined and capable. Very sad.

 - Steve

- Original Message -
From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri Nov 27 18:12:07 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

Nancy Delise and a female friend (also with MS) drowned in a motel
hot tub (next to the swimming pool) while trying hot water therapy.
The circumstances were so odd that the police assumed it was a
bizarre suicide pact. The families stated that was ridiculous and
insisted on a closer examination.  Police later concluded it was just
a tragic accident.  Apparently heat can incapacitate MS sufferers.
(MS sufferes have confirmed this to me). By the time the two ladies
realised they could not move their muscles it was too late.  So they
simply slipped to the bottom of the tub and drowned. Very sad. Nancy
was a contributor to this and other silver groups.

David



> From: "Del" 
> Date: 28 November 2009 4:11:10 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CS>MS cure
>
>
> Nancy Delise and her friend are dead now, you know.
> He death in a motel hot tub was labeled suicide, but I never
> believed that.
> Some very unfunny business here:
>
> http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Countryside.Holiday.Inn.
> 2.336750.html
>
> Del



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Re: CS>MS cure

[Tad Winiecki]

Ross Craig wrote:

Read all about this stunning news:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/
Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) claims to help MS as well as other autoimmune 
diseases, Parkinson's, and boosts the natural endorphin release to help 
the immune system fight cancer.  There are some yahoo groups about LDN.


Nancy


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Re: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

[Bob Banever]

Re: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.Wow... that is truly tragic.  I'm so sorry.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 4:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.


  How terribly sad and unfortunate. I take it that her MS was only in remission 
and had returned after her post in 2002? In her post she seemed intelligent, 
determined and capable. Very sad.
   - Steve

  - Original Message -
  From: Alchemysa 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Fri Nov 27 18:12:07 2009
  Subject: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

  Nancy Delise and a female friend (also with MS) drowned in a motel 
  hot tub (next to the swimming pool) while trying hot water therapy. 
  The circumstances were so odd that the police assumed it was a 
  bizarre suicide pact. The families stated that was ridiculous and 
  insisted on a closer examination.  Police later concluded it was just 
  a tragic accident.  Apparently heat can incapacitate MS sufferers.  
  (MS sufferes have confirmed this to me). By the time the two ladies 
  realised they could not move their muscles it was too late.  So they 
  simply slipped to the bottom of the tub and drowned. Very sad. Nancy 
  was a contributor to this and other silver groups.

  David



  > From: "Del" 
  > Date: 28 November 2009 4:11:10 AM
  > To: 
  > Subject: Re: CS>MS cure
  >
  >
  > Nancy Delise and her friend are dead now, you know.
  > He death in a motel hot tub was labeled suicide, but I never 
  > believed that.
  > Some very unfunny business here:
  >
  > http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Countryside.Holiday.Inn.
  > 2.336750.html
  >
  > Del


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Re: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

[Norton, Steve]

How terribly sad and unfortunate. I take it that her MS was only in remission 
and had returned after her post in 2002? In her post she seemed intelligent, 
determined and capable. Very sad. 
 - Steve

- Original Message -
From: Alchemysa 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri Nov 27 18:12:07 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

Nancy Delise and a female friend (also with MS) drowned in a motel  
hot tub (next to the swimming pool) while trying hot water therapy.  
The circumstances were so odd that the police assumed it was a  
bizarre suicide pact. The families stated that was ridiculous and  
insisted on a closer examination.  Police later concluded it was just  
a tragic accident.  Apparently heat can incapacitate MS sufferers.   
(MS sufferes have confirmed this to me). By the time the two ladies  
realised they could not move their muscles it was too late.  So they  
simply slipped to the bottom of the tub and drowned. Very sad. Nancy  
was a contributor to this and other silver groups.

David



> From: "Del" 
> Date: 28 November 2009 4:11:10 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CS>MS cure
>
>
> Nancy Delise and her friend are dead now, you know.
> He death in a motel hot tub was labeled suicide, but I never  
> believed that.
> Some very unfunny business here:
>
> http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Countryside.Holiday.Inn. 
> 2.336750.html
>
> Del


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CS>MS cure - Nancy delise.

[Alchemysa]

Nancy Delise and a female friend (also with MS) drowned in a motel  
hot tub (next to the swimming pool) while trying hot water therapy.  
The circumstances were so odd that the police assumed it was a  
bizarre suicide pact. The families stated that was ridiculous and  
insisted on a closer examination.  Police later concluded it was just  
a tragic accident.  Apparently heat can incapacitate MS sufferers.   
(MS sufferes have confirmed this to me). By the time the two ladies  
realised they could not move their muscles it was too late.  So they  
simply slipped to the bottom of the tub and drowned. Very sad. Nancy  
was a contributor to this and other silver groups.


David




From: "Del" 
Date: 28 November 2009 4:11:10 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure


Nancy Delise and her friend are dead now, you know.
He death in a motel hot tub was labeled suicide, but I never  
believed that.

Some very unfunny business here:

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Countryside.Holiday.Inn. 
2.336750.html


Del



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Re: CS>MS cure

[Del]

Nancy Delise and her friend are dead now, you know.
He death in a motel hot tub was labeled suicide, but I never believed that.
Some very unfunny business here:

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Countryside.Holiday.Inn.2.336750.html

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 8:00 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>MS cure


  This is just brilliant!  dee


  On 27 Nov 2009, at 01:30, Norton, Steve wrote:


Here is another testamonial re CS and MS. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/message/373

- Steve




From: John E. Stevens  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Thu Nov 26 06:30:39 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure 


Check Nadine Wooley's book on how she improved her MS using Colloidal 
silver water.


On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Ross Craig  wrote:

  Read all about this stunning news:

  
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/

Re: CS>MS cure

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This is just brilliant!  dee

On 27 Nov 2009, at 01:30, Norton, Steve wrote:

> Here is another testamonial re CS and MS. 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/message/373
> 
> - Steve
> 
> From: John E. Stevens  
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
> Sent: Thu Nov 26 06:30:39 2009
> Subject: Re: CS>MS cure 
> 
> Check Nadine Wooley's book on how she improved her MS using Colloidal silver 
> water.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Ross Craig  wrote:
> Read all about this stunning news:
>  
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/
> 

Re: CS>MS cure

[Ode Coyote]

So .MS is *tin man in the rain with a funnel for a hat* disease.
  Drink lots of Coca Cola.
It has the active ingredient of navel jelly in it...removes rust.

Oh...and stop biting your nails. [too much irony, ya know]

BTW  Draino dissolves Aluminum, which [for whatever reason] builds up in 
the brains of Altzeimers folx.
 A "Zapper" creates Sodium Hydroxide [Draino] in the blood stream out of 
the salt in the blood.


Ode



At 07:08 AM 11/26/2009 -0400, you wrote:

Read all about this stunning news:

<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/



As part of the research project, Mr. Lipp's siblings have also been tested. 
His two sisters, both of whom have MS, have significant blockages and iron 
deposits, while his brother, who does not have MS, has neither iron buildup 
nor blocked arteries.




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Re: CS>MS cure

[Norton, Steve]

Here is another testamonial re CS and MS. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/silverdatawebsite/message/373

- Steve



From: John E. Stevens  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Thu Nov 26 06:30:39 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure 


Check Nadine Wooley's book on how she improved her MS using Colloidal silver 
water.


On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Ross Craig  wrote:


Read all about this stunning news:
 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/

Re: CS>MS cure

[Rowena]

Interesting, as I had just heard from a friend "with MS" who says "I had 
a few anxious moments with chest pain and the heart almost coming to a 
stop!! they argued that it was MS, and then it was heart disease. well 
it turns out that i have a naturally slow heart rate, approx. 40bpm 
going down to 30bpm."


I will forward to her for her information.

Ross Craig wrote:

Read all about this stunning news:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/



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Re: CS>MS cure

[John E. Stevens]

Check Nadine Wooley's book on how she improved her MS using Colloidal silver
water.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Ross Craig  wrote:

>  Read all about this stunning news:
>
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/
>

CS>MS cure

[Ross Craig]

Read all about this stunning news:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/

Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Done that Garnet, but postage is still far too much.  It would be  
around $30 dollars for sixteen ounces, maybe more.  dee


On 29 Sep 2009, at 15:04, Garnet wrote:


Try  http://shop.ebay.co.uk and put DMSO into the search.

Garnet

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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Tony Moody]

On 29 Sep 2009 at 12:29, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS

> Thanks for the info Garnet, petsupplies doesn't ship to the UK and I  am
> waiting for a reply from the other one.  I have searched  extensively on
> Google of course, with no luck I'm afraid, hence the  question for the
> list.  I do buy mostly from the US but some suppliers  charge astronomical
> fees for delivery, and iHerb don't do it,  unfortunately.  dee
> 

Hallo Dee,
Here are some fairly local to UK suppliers.

Dimethyl Sulfoxide
www.arkema.com  Arkema Inc: an industrial producer of Dimethyl 
Sulfoxide (DMSO)

Europe
Arkema
420, rue d'Estienne d'Orves
92700 Colombes
France
Tel.: +33 (0)1 49 00 80 80
Fax: +33 (0)1 49 00 72 53

Also try DMSO.co.uk and ask them for suppliers

and 

http://www.merck-chemicals.co.uk/life-science-research/dimethyl-
sulfoxide/EMD_BIO-
317275/p_xmOb.s1LIKcAAAEWlWEfVhTm?WFSimpleSearch_NameOrID=dmso&BackButtonT
ext=search+results

If that doesn't work then  go :
http://www.merck-chemicals.co.uk
and search for DMSO

Yikes 32BP per 500ml It seems to be over-the-top quality. Maybe they have 
a lower grade.


OK,
Tony Moody


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Garnet]

Try  http://shop.ebay.co.uk and put DMSO into the search.

Garnet

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

This won't open in my Safari browser, thanks though.  dee

On 28 Sep 2009, at 23:10, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Here's a source in Poland. Perhaps they'll ship.
http://tinyurl.com/y9cvtwe





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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This won't open in my Safari browser, thanks though.  dee

On 28 Sep 2009, at 23:10, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Here's a source in Poland. Perhaps they'll ship.
http://tinyurl.com/y9cvtwe





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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for the info Garnet, petsupplies doesn't ship to the UK and I  
am waiting for a reply from the other one.  I have searched  
extensively on Google of course, with no luck I'm afraid, hence the  
question for the list.  I do buy mostly from the US but some suppliers  
charge astronomical fees for delivery, and iHerb don't do it,  
unfortunately.  dee


On 28 Sep 2009, at 18:18, Garnet wrote:


Here's two more suppliers to check:

http://www.kvvet.com if they ship to the UK has one of the best prices

http://www.petsupplies4less.com

Links page on DMSO list for suppliers:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/links/Sources_of_DMSO_001082640089/

Have you searched for UK suppliers on Google? Vet and farm  
suppliers, race horse equipment

suppliers are the first ones I would check with.




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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[sol]

Garnet wrote:

That protocol is in Walker's book, DMSO Nature's Healer.

Garnet

I have the book, so that explains where I got it.LOL.
sol


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[cking001]

Here's a source in Poland. Perhaps they'll ship.
http://tinyurl.com/y9cvtwe


On 9/28/2009 8:28:09 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Unfortunately, Jeffers don't ship to the UK and I can't get it on ebay
> for here either.  dee
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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Garnet]

Here's two more suppliers to check:

http://www.kvvet.com if they ship to the UK has one of the 
best prices


http://www.petsupplies4less.com

Links page on DMSO list for suppliers:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/links/Sources_of_DMSO_001082640089/

Have you searched for UK suppliers on Google? Vet and farm 
suppliers, race horse equipment

suppliers are the first ones I would check with.

Do you know someone in the states that would ship it to you?

Garnet

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Unfortunately, Jeffers don't ship to the UK and I can't get it on ebay 
for here either.  dee


On 27 Sep 2009, at 18:25, Garnet wrote:


http://www.jefferslivestock.com

You might also check eBay.

If you want to pay more and get it packaged in an amber glass bottle
www.lifesvigor.com, and other health suppliers but it is the same grade
as the farm suppliers sell.

Garnet

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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I couldn't find any either Kirsteen.  dee

On 27 Sep 2009, at 18:32, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
 wrote:
Can anyone tell me where to get this in the UK as I cannot seem to  
find where I got it from before.  Or alternatively, where I can get  
it in the US with reasonable postage.  It is much too expensive from  
the official site. Thanks.  dee



I got mine from ebay. i see they only have the gel at the moment but  
I did get the liquid as well. It doesn't seem to come on so often,  
though.


cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Unfortunately, Jeffers don't ship to the UK and I can't get it on ebay  
for here either.  dee


On 27 Sep 2009, at 18:25, Garnet wrote:


http://www.jefferslivestock.com

You might also check eBay.

If you want to pay more and get it packaged in an amber glass bottle
www.lifesvigor.com, and other health suppliers but it is the same  
grade

as the farm suppliers sell.

Garnet

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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Can anyone tell me where to get this in the UK as I cannot seem to find
> where I got it from before.  Or alternatively, where I can get it in the US
> with reasonable postage.  It is much too expensive from the official site.
> Thanks.  dee
>
> I got mine from ebay. i see they only have the gel at the moment but I did
get the liquid as well. It doesn't seem to come on so often, though.

cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Garnet]

http://www.jefferslivestock.com

You might also check eBay.

If you want to pay more and get it packaged in an amber 
glass bottle
www.lifesvigor.com, and other health suppliers but it is the 
same grade

as the farm suppliers sell.

Garnet

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Can anyone tell me where to get this in the UK as I cannot seem to find 
where I got it from before.  Or alternatively, where I can get it in the 
US with reasonable postage.  It is much too expensive from the official 
site. Thanks.  dee


On 27 Sep 2009, at 16:49, Garnet wrote:


DMSO can be taken orally, as long as the person is conscious. On the
DMSO list there have been list members who reported using it for a
stroke and following up with their Neuro and an MRI with no damage
and the Neuro asking what she did.

The book DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton Walker is sold by Amazon.

It is used to both treat and prevent heart attacks and stroke. Dr Stanley
Jacob, the man who developed DMSO in the 70's for organ transport,
takes 4 cc a day for the past 30+ years. He is in his late 80's and
currently writing a 16 volume set on DMSO.

www.dmso.org




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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Can anyone tell me where to get this in the UK as I cannot seem to  
find where I got it from before.  Or alternatively, where I can get it  
in the US with reasonable postage.  It is much too expensive from the  
official site. Thanks.  dee


On 27 Sep 2009, at 16:49, Garnet wrote:


DMSO can be taken orally, as long as the person is conscious. On the
DMSO list there have been list members who reported using it for a
stroke and following up with their Neuro and an MRI with no damage
and the Neuro asking what she did.

The book DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton Walker is sold by Amazon.

It is used to both treat and prevent heart attacks and stroke. Dr  
Stanley

Jacob, the man who developed DMSO in the 70's for organ transport,
takes 4 cc a day for the past 30+ years. He is in his late 80's and
currently writing a 16 volume set on DMSO.

www.dmso.org




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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I am going to keep this sol.  dee

On 27 Sep 2009, at 16:41, sol wrote:


Day Sutton wrote:
DMSO, if given according to directions in the book "DMSO, Nature's  
Healer" by Dr. Morton Walker, will dissolve any clots in the brain  
and if given within 45 min of the attack there will be no damage.

I have taped above my computer screen this protocol for a stroke--
-1 tsp DMSO in 3 oz orange juice every 15 minutes for 2 hours.
- then every 30 min for a further 2 hours

I hope if I ever have a stroke I will recognize it and begin the  
above right away.
Not sure where I got that info, so I don't have a reference. Maybe  
it came from someone on this list.

sol


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Garnet]

That protocol is in Walker's book, DMSO Nature's Healer.

Garnet

sol wrote:

Day Sutton wrote:
DMSO, if given according to directions in the book "DMSO, Nature's 
Healer" by Dr. Morton Walker, will dissolve any clots in the brain and 
if given within 45 min of the attack there will be no damage.

I have taped above my computer screen this protocol for a stroke--
-1 tsp DMSO in 3 oz orange juice every 15 minutes for 2 hours.
- then every 30 min for a further 2 hours

I hope if I ever have a stroke I will recognize it and begin the above 
right away.
Not sure where I got that info, so I don't have a reference. Maybe it 
came from someone on this list.

sol


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Garnet]

DMSO can be taken orally, as long as the person is 
conscious. On the
DMSO list there have been list members who reported using it 
for a
stroke and following up with their Neuro and an MRI with no 
damage

and the Neuro asking what she did.

The book DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton Walker is sold by 
Amazon.


It is used to both treat and prevent heart attacks and 
stroke. Dr Stanley
Jacob, the man who developed DMSO in the 70's for organ 
transport,
takes 4 cc a day for the past 30+ years. He is in his late 
80's and

currently writing a 16 volume set on DMSO.

www.dmso.org

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet

Day Sutton wrote:
DMSO, if given according to directions in the book "DMSO, Nature's 
Healer" by Dr. Morton Walker, will dissolve any clots in the brain and 
if given within 45 min of the attack there will be no damage.
(according to the book)   Months and even years later it will also 
work.  It has to be injected, so many cc's per kilo of body 
weight.This is worth finding a copy of this book...


On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Melly Bag <mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


In Chinese medicine, when someone suffers a stroke, someone pierces
the ten fingers with pins and the ear lobes (the part where  you
hang earrings) and the patient will come around.
 
melly


--- On *Sun, 9/13/09, Ode Coyote /mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net>>/* wrote:


From: Ode Coyote mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net>>
Subject: Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a
stroke 5 months ago
To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:09 AM


A victim of multiple strokes here has gained back much feeling
[many years after the strokes] by applying a [pieso] barbecue
igniter [aka electric 'stick pins in the skin'
treatment?..uh..oh yea, Acupuncture ] to the numb parts.
The very brief high voltage  electrical shocks seemed to be
playing a game of "Marco Polo" with the brain to find or form
another routing pattern.
..like sending up a flare to attract contact after the phones go
out.

It seemed to also work on an old guy in Chapel Hill who had
stroke that paralyzed his right arm.
He was back to playing his weird Turkish stringed instrument
thingie  in a couple of weeks.

Ode



At 10:34 AM 9/12/2009 -0700, you wrote:
 > Hi Hanneke...
 >
 > The best thing the lady can do is exercise, exercise,
exercise. They have found that if a stroke patient will
constantly exercise the effected limbs...same with speech...new
nerve pathways will develope and bypass the damaged area of the
brain basically rewiring it. There have been some patients who
have recovered much use of their effected limbs 10-15 years
after the stroke with exercise.
 >
 > It's very hard but in 2 weeks time the results will be amazing.
 >
 > <http://main.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=28002>New Strategies
After Stroke: Restraining, Rewiring, Relearning
 >
 > Here is some other new interesting info about rewiring the brain.
 >
 >

<http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/investigators-discover-method-stimulate-brain-rewiring-after-stroke>Investigators
discover method to stimulate brain rewiring after stroke
 >
 >

<http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=gmail&rls=gm&q=rewiring%20the%20brain%20after%20stroke

<http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=gmail&rls=gm&q=rewiring%20the%20brain%20after%20stroke>>Also
Google rewiring brain after stroke.
 >
 > Hope these help.
 >
 > Sandy
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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[sol]

Day Sutton wrote:
DMSO, if given according to directions in the book "DMSO, Nature's 
Healer" by Dr. Morton Walker, will dissolve any clots in the brain and 
if given within 45 min of the attack there will be no damage.

I have taped above my computer screen this protocol for a stroke--
-1 tsp DMSO in 3 oz orange juice every 15 minutes for 2 hours.
- then every 30 min for a further 2 hours

I hope if I ever have a stroke I will recognize it and begin the above 
right away.
Not sure where I got that info, so I don't have a reference. Maybe it 
came from someone on this list.

sol


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Day Sutton]

DMSO, if given according to directions in the book "DMSO, Nature's Healer"
by Dr. Morton Walker, will dissolve any clots in the brain and if given
within 45 min of the attack there will be no damage.
(according to the book)   Months and even years later it will also work.  It
has to be injected, so many cc's per kilo of body weight.This is worth
finding a copy of this book...

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Melly Bag  wrote:

> In Chinese medicine, when someone suffers a stroke, someone pierces the ten
> fingers with pins and the ear lobes (the part where  you hang earrings) and
> the patient will come around.
>
> melly
>
> --- On *Sun, 9/13/09, Ode Coyote * wrote:
>
>
> From: Ode Coyote 
> Subject: Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months
> ago
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:09 AM
>
>
> A victim of multiple strokes here has gained back much feeling [many years
> after the strokes] by applying a [pieso] barbecue igniter [aka electric
> 'stick pins in the skin' treatment?..uh..oh yea, Acupuncture ] to the numb
> parts.
> The very brief high voltage  electrical shocks seemed to be playing a game
> of "Marco Polo" with the brain to find or form another routing pattern.
> ..like sending up a flare to attract contact after the phones go out.
>
> It seemed to also work on an old guy in Chapel Hill who had stroke that
> paralyzed his right arm.
> He was back to playing his weird Turkish stringed instrument thingie  in a
> couple of weeks.
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 10:34 AM 9/12/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> > Hi Hanneke...
> >
> > The best thing the lady can do is exercise, exercise, exercise. They have
> found that if a stroke patient will constantly exercise the effected
> limbs...same with speech...new nerve pathways will develope and bypass the
> damaged area of the brain basically rewiring it. There have been some
> patients who have recovered much use of their effected limbs 10-15 years
> after the stroke with exercise.
> >
> > It's very hard but in 2 weeks time the results will be amazing.
> >
> > <http://main.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=28002>New Strategies After Stroke:
> Restraining, Rewiring, Relearning
> >
> > Here is some other new interesting info about rewiring the brain.
> >
> > <
> http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/investigators-discover-method-stimulate-brain-rewiring-after-stroke>Investigators
> discover method to stimulate brain rewiring after stroke
> >
> > <
> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=gmail&rls=gm&q=rewiring%20the%20brain%20after%20stroke>Also
> Google rewiring brain after stroke.
> >
> > Hope these help.
> >
> > Sandy
> > >
> > >
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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Melly Bag]

In Chinese medicine, when someone suffers a stroke, someone pierces the ten 
fingers with pins and the ear lobes (the part where  you hang earrings) and the 
patient will come around.
 
melly

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Ode Coyote  wrote:


From: Ode Coyote 
Subject: Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:09 AM



A victim of multiple strokes here has gained back much feeling [many years 
after the strokes] by applying a [pieso] barbecue igniter [aka electric 'stick 
pins in the skin' treatment?..uh..oh yea, Acupuncture ] to the numb parts.
The very brief high voltage  electrical shocks seemed to be playing a game of 
"Marco Polo" with the brain to find or form another routing pattern.
..like sending up a flare to attract contact after the phones go out.

It seemed to also work on an old guy in Chapel Hill who had stroke that 
paralyzed his right arm.
He was back to playing his weird Turkish stringed instrument thingie  in a 
couple of weeks.

Ode



At 10:34 AM 9/12/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> Hi Hanneke...
> 
> The best thing the lady can do is exercise, exercise, exercise. They have 
> found that if a stroke patient will constantly exercise the effected 
> limbs...same with speech...new nerve pathways will develope and bypass the 
> damaged area of the brain basically rewiring it. There have been some 
> patients who have recovered much use of their effected limbs 10-15 years 
> after the stroke with exercise.
> 
> It's very hard but in 2 weeks time the results will be amazing.
> 
> <http://main.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=28002>New Strategies After Stroke: 
> Restraining, Rewiring, Relearning
> 
> Here is some other new interesting info about rewiring the brain.
> 
> <http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/investigators-discover-method-stimulate-brain-rewiring-after-stroke>Investigators
>  discover method to stimulate brain rewiring after stroke
> 
> <http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=gmail&rls=gm&q=rewiring%20the%20brain%20after%20stroke>Also
>  Google rewiring brain after stroke.
> 
> Hope these help.
> 
> Sandy
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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Ode Coyote]

 A victim of multiple strokes here has gained back much feeling [many 
years after the strokes] by applying a [pieso] barbecue igniter [aka 
electric 'stick pins in the skin' treatment?..uh..oh yea, Acupuncture ] to 
the numb parts.
 The very brief high voltage  electrical shocks seemed to be playing a 
game of "Marco Polo" with the brain to find or form another routing pattern.

..like sending up a flare to attract contact after the phones go out.

It seemed to also work on an old guy in Chapel Hill who had stroke that 
paralyzed his right arm.
 He was back to playing his weird Turkish stringed instrument thingie  in 
a couple of weeks.


Ode



At 10:34 AM 9/12/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Hi Hanneke...

The best thing the lady can do is exercise, exercise, exercise. They have 
found that if a stroke patient will constantly exercise the effected 
limbs...same with speech...new nerve pathways will develope and bypass the 
damaged area of the brain basically rewiring it. There have been some 
patients who have recovered much use of their effected limbs 10-15 years 
after the stroke with exercise.


It's very hard but in 2 weeks time the results will be amazing.

New Strategies After Stroke: 
Restraining, Rewiring, Relearning


Here is some other new interesting info about rewiring the brain.

Investigators 
discover method to stimulate brain rewiring after stroke


Also 
Google rewiring brain after stroke.


Hope these help.

Sandy
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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago ENAR

[Rowena]

This is not from personal experience, but I recall that one use of a 
gadget I bought is for people who have had a stroke.


This is the Enar device.

This is where I bought it. http://www.enlightenedtherapies.com/
http://www.enlightenedtherapies.com/products.html

This page has downloads:

http://www.enar.com.au/downloads.html

Probably a professional with the Scenar would be a good option to start 
with. I would imagine they would be willing to make a "house" call? 
There is a link to therapists on the site somewhere, too.


One thing that is also possible is to rent a unit. 
http://www.enar.com.au/rentbuy.html Of course, they hope you will buy 
one once you have tried it - but at least you CAN try it.
Before buying an ENAR outright for themselves some people like to try 
out a device for a time. You may rent a brand new device for one month. 
Should you wish to then buy it, your first month’s rental can become a 
deposit against the purchase price.


Suite 209,
43 Majors Bay Rd,
(PO Box 191)
Concord NSW Australia 2137

*Phone:*
+61 2 8732 7400

*Fax:*
+61 2 8765 8812

*Toll Free Australia:*
1300 305 107

*Toll Free New Zealand:*
0800 555 755

I went to a workshop once in Fremantle after I had bought it. There was 
one bloke there who used to be a patient and was now a therapist. He'd 
had a motor bike accident and was a mess, and was having pain relief 
treatment from a Fremantle therapist. This therapist had been to a 
workshop in Sydney, and had come home with an Enar. From the airport, he 
rang the patient, who came around straight away, and from then on made 
fantastic progress.


All the best to your friend.

Rowena


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[frankcuns-r...@comcast.net]

Mary,
We are here to help
Frank

mborg...@att.net wrote:

Thank You,
Being brain injuried is truly like living in hell
Mary

-- Original message from "frankcuns-r...@comcast.net"
: --


> Hi Mary,
> I had a son who was head injured by a car accident and survived
for a
> number of years.
> I understand what you are going through and want you to know
that your
> example makes better people of the rest of us.
> I take my hat off to you.
> Frank
>
> mborg...@att.net wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hanneke,
> >
> > I have not had a stroke but a severe brain injury where the left
> > side of my scalp came off. What followed, I was told, is what
> > happens when one has a stroke.
> >
> > PLEASE, If i do not have my sentence structure right or the words
> > are wrong PLEASE do not call me iodiotic,stupid,dumb,ignorant, as
> > dave nave emailed this week. I do not understand how people get
> > away with calling people names. But I must rise about him.
> >
> >
> >
> > Accident 94, I could not read,write,talk walk,without falling,
use
> > my hands,watch tv or listen to radio or be under flour lites, no
> > noise of anykind etc. I actually lived in my closet.
> >
> > I had 100 docs they all wanted to put me where your friend is
or a
> > mental institution for I would not take any drugs.
> >
> > You are right FRUSTRATION is major but docs have no box for that
> > word so they labeled you clinical depression.
> >
> > First what helped me walk was crawling.. and crawling, to the
> > point of crying,
> >
> > Second.. doing childrens puzzles. point is using left and right
> > hand brain, putting square peg in square hole,, not easy to do.
> >
> > third tying anything left and right hand.
> >
> > fourth being in the sun without sunglasses or any glasses.
because
> > the sun needs to get into the brain to heal..only way.. eyes open
> > no glasses early in the morning or late at nite. about 20 min a
> > day. No sun.. don't worry the uv rays penatrate you anyway.
> >
> > Fifth, this is big No flour lites at any time, no color anywhere,
> > no clutter anywhere, no noise. the brain cannot filter any of
> > these items.
> >
> > Anyway this is all I can email for now, my brain to shutting
down.
> >
> > I began to read books, this year, computer could only use 15
min a
> > day because I saw quadruple of everything and the computer
needs a
> > filter my color was blue in front of computer.
> >
> > If she could get on a computer.. this would be a life saver but
> > she cannot look at the screen because of the thousands of
lites???
> > the brain cannot filter these so use a gel filter, have to keep
> > trying which one is ok for her
> >
> > If you need more information let me know and I will give it to
you.
> >
> > Tell her when she cries, she is crying for the person who
died
> > her. When I found this out it made sense why I cried. I did die
> > that day..twice, but my ME died also but I am slowly making my
way
> > back..
> >
> > I am 66 yrs old.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original message from Hanneke
> > : --
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Earlier this week, I caught up with some friends and one of
them is
> > > desperate to get all and any information to help his partner
> > towards
> > > recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the
> > circumstances..
> > >
> > > The lady in question is 58 years of age, has been suffering
with MS
> > > for a number of years and was using a Goopher/scooter for
transport
> > > since last October.
> > > In April of this year, she suffered a stroke and has been stuck
> > in a
> > > nursing home ever since with the prognosis being: she will
never
> > come
> > > out of the nursing home, is bedridden and in another 12
months when
> > > the effects of the stroke have mellowed out one will have a
clearer
> > > picture of what she will be like for the rest of h

Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Smitty]

>  There is a book that reports many of the newest efforts
>  to help people with such problems:
>
>  "The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph
>  from the Frontiers of Brain Science (James H. Silberman Books)"
>  Norman Doidge

The book is in our local library. I put a hold on it.
I'm #7. . . . . .

Smitty


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Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi Mary,
I live in Michigan and transport people who are wheel-chair bound many of them 
challenged by closed head injuries or strokes..hang in there my friend I admire 
your courage,
debbie

--- On Sat, 9/12/09, mborg...@att.net  wrote:


From: mborg...@att.net 
Subject: Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 2:31 PM




 

Hanneke,
I have not had a stroke but a severe brain injury where the left side of my 
scalp came off.  What followed, I was told, is what happens when one has a 
stroke.
PLEASE, If i do not have my sentence structure right or the words are wrong 
PLEASE do not call me iodiotic,stupid,dumb,ignorant, as dave nave  emailed this 
week.  I do not understand how people get away with calling people names.  But 
I must rise about him.
 
Accident 94, I could not read,write,talk walk,without falling, use my 
hands,watch tv or listen to radio or be under flour lites, no noise of anykind 
etc.  I actually lived in my closet.
I had 100 docs they all wanted to put me where your friend is or a mental 
institution for I would not take any drugs.
You are right FRUSTRATION is major but docs have no box for that word so they 
labeled you clinical depression.
First what helped me walk was crawling.. and crawling, to the point of crying,
Second.. doing childrens puzzles. point is using  left and right hand brain, 
putting square peg in square hole,, not easy to do.
third  tying anything left and right hand.
fourth being in the sun without sunglasses or any glasses. because the sun 
needs to get into the brain to heal..only way.. eyes open no glasses early in 
the morning or late at nite.  about 20 min a day.  No sun.. don't worry the uv 
rays penatrate you anyway.
Fifth, this is big  No flour lites at any time, no color anywhere, no clutter 
anywhere, no noise.  the brain cannot filter any of these items.
Anyway this is all I can email for now, my brain to shutting down.
I began to read books, this year, computer could only use 15 min a day because 
I saw quadruple of everything and the computer needs a filter my color was blue 
in front of computer.
If she could get on a computer.. this would be a life saver but she cannot look 
at the screen because of the thousands of lites??? the brain cannot filter 
these so use a gel filter, have to keep trying which one is ok for her
If you need more information let me know and I will give it to you.
Tell her when she cries, she is crying for the person who died her.  When I 
found this out it made sense why I cried.  I did die that day..twice, but my ME 
died also but I am slowly making my way back.. 
I am 66 yrs old.
Mary
 
 
-- Original message from Hanneke : 
-- 


> 
> Earlier this week, I caught up with some friends and one of them is 
> desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards 
> recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the 
> circumstances.. 
> 
> The lady in question is 58 years of age, has been suffering with MS 
> for a number of years and was using a Goopher/scooter for transport 
> since last October. 
> In April of this year, she suffered a stroke and has been stuck in a 
> nursing home ever since with the prognosis being: she will never come 
> out of the nursing home, is bedridden and in another 12 months when 
> the effects of the stroke have mellowed out one will have a clearer 
> picture of what she will be like for the rest of her life (this is 
> the message he was given by the medical and nursing staff of the nursing 
> home). 
> 
> She receives physio therapy and some meds but I didn't ask what 
> medications, nor whether the meds were for stroke related or MS 
> related problems. The lady has the use of only one arm/hand, unable to walk, 
> cannot speak other than grunt. From what I understood, apart from 
> some memory loss, her mental abilities are in tact and the 
> frustration and anger she feels about not being 
> able to communicate as she used to gets the better of her at times. 
> With the help of pictures she is able to let them know if she wants a 
> glass of water, a coffee, or ovaltine..whether she wants her hair 
> dryer, a comb... etc etc. This just to give an idea of how they are 
> communicating. 
> 
> She recognises the alphabet and she has been given a children's 
> keyboard which has large coloured letters which she manages to press 
> when taking her time to hit them properly. This is connected up with 
> a computer and shows up on computer screen. 
> Yesterday, my daughter printed off a sheet with sign language for 
> one hand which may help 
> as well since she has the use of the one hand. 
> 
> My question is: would there be a list of supplements, diet 
> ideas, exercise ideas which one wouldn't hear about in a 

Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I cannot imagine what it was like but you are to be truly admired,  
especially for trying to help another.  Good wishes to you.  dee


On 12 Sep 2009, at 19:55, mborg...@att.net wrote:


Thank You,
Being brain injuried is truly like living in hell
Mary
-- Original message from "frankcuns-r...@comcast.net" >: --

RE: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[nenahsylver]

[Hanneke] Earlier this week, I caught up with  some  friends and one of them
is desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards
recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the
circumstances.

 

==

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children were brought out of comas (due to their having fallen into swimming
pools) with the device.

 

You can download my article "Healing with Electromedicine and Sound
Therapies" at
http://www.nenahsylver.com/holistic_health_healing_with_electromedicine.html


 

After s/he reads the article, if your friend would like to contact me to ask
questions s/he is welcome to do so.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

& The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

  www.nenahsylver.com 

 

 

Re: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago

[Norton, Steve]

While it is usually used as a stroke preventative, serrapeptase has been 
successful after the fact in some stroke cases. 
 - Steve N

http://www.serrapeptase.info/testimonial.asp?x-up-destcharset=4

- Original Message -
From: Hanneke 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sat Sep 12 09:53:43 2009
Subject: CS>Help needed for lady with MS who suffered a stroke 5 months ago


Earlier this week, I caught up with  some  friends and one of them is
desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards
recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the circumstances..

The lady in question is 58 years of age, has been suffering with MS
for a number of years and was using a Goopher/scooter for transport
since last October.
In April of this year, she suffered a stroke and has been stuck in a
nursing home ever since with the prognosis being: she will never come
out of the nursing home, is bedridden and in another 12 months when
the effects of the stroke have  mellowed out one will have a clearer
picture of what she will be like for the rest of her life  (this is
the message he was given by the medical and nursing staff of the nursing home).

She receives  physio therapy and some meds but I didn't ask what
medications, nor whether the meds were for stroke related or MS
related problems. The lady has the use of only one arm/hand, unable to walk,
cannot speak other than grunt. From what I understood,  apart from 
some memory loss, her mental abilities are in tact and the 
frustration and anger she feels about not being
able to communicate as she used to gets the better of her at times.
With the help of pictures she is able to let them know if she wants a
glass of water, a coffee, or ovaltine..whether she wants her hair
dryer, a comb... etc etc. This just to give an idea of how they are
communicating.

She recognises the alphabet and she has been given a  children's
keyboard which has large coloured letters which she manages to press
when taking her time to hit them properly. This is connected up with 
a computer and shows up on computer screen.
  Yesterday, my daughter printed off a sheet with  sign language for 
one hand  which may help
as well  since she has the use of the one hand.

My question is: would there be a list of supplements, diet
ideas,  exercise ideas which one wouldn't hear about in a nursing
home but will help towards a recovery?

Looking forward to your responses.

Hanneke



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