Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2020-01-15 Thread RaVen Sequoia
What mineral test from a lab do you recommend? Often allopathic labs are
insufficient compared to wholistic, advanced labs...


RaVen


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread BEAZLEY RICHARD MAVIN
Good day,

I am Mr Beazley Richard Mavin. a banker by profession, I worked for 15
years at First Gulf Bank in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), currently
holding the position of Audit Director at the Bank's accounting department.
I have the opportunity to transfer the amount of $11,480,000 USD (Eleven
Million Four Hundred and Eighty thousand United State Dollars) I was
credited to the escrow account by a Client who unfortunately died on July
15, 2015 in a fatal plane crash in North China, in which his whole family
perished. Based on these negative circumstances, the deceased client has
nothing to do with his immediate family or the beneficiary left to submit
an application for payment of funds to the bank's management. In connection
with this opportunity, I am contacting you to act as a deceased client
beneficiary to receive funds in your country.

I will use my position and influence in the bank, working hand in hand with
you on legal procedures and guidelines on how to materialize the successful
transfer of funds to the external account data you provided. You really
need the ability to be reliable, honest, trustworthy and keep all the
information related to this transaction and your participation as a
beneficiary strictly confidential, because you can understand that the
fewer people involved, the better. I am ready to offer you 40% of the total
funds for your vital role as the beneficiary of the funds, and I assured
you that there will be no risk or any compromising actions against your
freedom or reputation in connection with your participation in this deal.

I hope in favor of your urgent reply.

Best regards.
Mr Beazley Richard Mavin

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:47 PM Olushola Camara 
wrote:

> I would also caution about putting colloidal copper in your body.
> Bio-available copper is very important, as it  drives 30+ enzymes that are
> essential to our day-to-day life. Also  the antioxidants Superoxide
> dismutase (SOD), Glutathione (GSH), Glutathione peroxidase ([GSH-Px), and 
> Chloramphenicol
> acetyltransferaseare (CAT) are dependent on bio-available copper. The key
> word here is bio-available. If it is not bio-available it will not do its
> job and can cause more harm than good. I don't think colloidal copper is
> bio-available.
>
> Also  copper and zinc must be balanced, too much of either one depletes
> the other. Mineral balancing is absolutely essential for good health and
> one should get a mineral test first. BTW liver is rich in bio-available
> copper.
>
> Olushola
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:14 AM  wrote:
>
>> GM,
>>
>> I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your
>> body. Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack
>> your liver.
>>
>> For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver,
>> no advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
>>
>>
>> https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
>>
>> Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
>>
>> Arnold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *nessie 
>> *Sent: *Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
>> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
>>
>>
>>
>> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
>> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
>> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
>> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
>> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
>> immersed in the distilled water.
>> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
>> would I have a better product?
>> Silver/Copper combo?
>> Regardsgm
>>
>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
>> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread BEAZLEY RICHARD MAVIN
Good day,

I am Mr Beazley Richard Mavin. a banker by profession, I worked for 15
years at First Gulf Bank in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), currently
holding the position of Audit Director at the Bank's accounting department.
I have the opportunity to transfer the amount of $11,480,000 USD (Eleven
Million Four Hundred and Eighty thousand United State Dollars) I was
credited to the escrow account by a Client who unfortunately died on July
15, 2015 in a fatal plane crash in North China, in which his whole family
perished. Based on these negative circumstances, the deceased client has
nothing to do with his immediate family or the beneficiary left to submit
an application for payment of funds to the bank's management. In connection
with this opportunity, I am contacting you to act as a deceased client
beneficiary to receive funds in your country.

I will use my position and influence in the bank, working hand in hand with
you on legal procedures and guidelines on how to materialize the successful
transfer of funds to the external account data you provided. You really
need the ability to be reliable, honest, trustworthy and keep all the
information related to this transaction and your participation as a
beneficiary strictly confidential, because you can understand that the
fewer people involved, the better. I am ready to offer you 40% of the total
funds for your vital role as the beneficiary of the funds, and I assured
you that there will be no risk or any compromising actions against your
freedom or reputation in connection with your participation in this deal.

I hope in favor of your urgent reply.

Best regards.
Mr Beazley Richard Mavin

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:57 AM Dan Nave  wrote:

> Arm and Hammer baking soda recommends 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2
> cup of water, check out the instructions on the box.  You can take it more
> than one time a day, but I don't think you should take large quantities
> continually.  I suspect if you take 1 teaspoon or more at a time, you might
> get diarrhea.
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jean Baugh 
> wrote:
>
>>   And speaking of alkaline water, what opinions are there about a tsp of
>> baking soda to a glass of water?
>>
>
>> Jean
>>
>> **
>>
>>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread BEAZLEY RICHARD MAVIN
Good day,

I am Mr Beazley Richard Mavin. a banker by profession, I worked for 15
years at First Gulf Bank in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), currently
holding the position of Audit Director at the Bank's accounting department.
I have the opportunity to transfer the amount of $11,480,000 USD (Eleven
Million Four Hundred and Eighty thousand United State Dollars) I was
credited to the escrow account by a Client who unfortunately died on July
15, 2015 in a fatal plane crash in North China, in which his whole family
perished. Based on these negative circumstances, the deceased client has
nothing to do with his immediate family or the beneficiary left to submit
an application for payment of funds to the bank's management. In connection
with this opportunity, I am contacting you to act as a deceased client
beneficiary to receive funds in your country.

I will use my position and influence in the bank, working hand in hand with
you on legal procedures and guidelines on how to materialize the successful
transfer of funds to the external account data you provided. You really
need the ability to be reliable, honest, trustworthy and keep all the
information related to this transaction and your participation as a
beneficiary strictly confidential, because you can understand that the
fewer people involved, the better. I am ready to offer you 40% of the total
funds for your vital role as the beneficiary of the funds, and I assured
you that there will be no risk or any compromising actions against your
freedom or reputation in connection with your participation in this deal.

I hope in favor of your urgent reply.

Best regards.
Mr Beazley Richard Mavin

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:46 PM Robert Banever 
wrote:

>
> Speaking of copper I recently purchased a pure copper device called the
> Copper-Zap.  It's placed in the nasal passageways for 60 seconds when you
> feel a cold coming on.  I've used it twice so far and if certainly got rid
> of any sensation of a virus attacking my sinus cavity.  Copper alone is
> known to kill or inactivate both virus and bacteria.  I wonder if copper
> pipes in peoples homes are doing the same thing?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ode Coyote
> Sent: Dec 8, 2019 3:08 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
>
> Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of  copper house wire [aka
> ROMEX]
> Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry
> standards.
> Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.
>
> Mount them into the generator
> Plug in the generator.
>
> I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.
>
> Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
> Copper is entirely different than silver.
> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY
> useless.
> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to
> view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
> strong'
>
> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out
> of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
> things]
>
> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
> make copper.
>
> *Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
> these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
> and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
> may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
> toxic ]*
>
> *Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.*
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:
>
>> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
>> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
>> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
>> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
>> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
>> immersed in the distilled water.
>> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
>> would I have a better product?
>> Silver/Copper combo?
>> Regardsgm
>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
>> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread BEAZLEY RICHARD MAVIN
Good day,

I am Mr Beazley Richard Mavin. a banker by profession, I worked for 15
years at First Gulf Bank in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), currently
holding the position of Audit Director at the Bank's accounting department.
I have the opportunity to transfer the amount of $11,480,000 USD (Eleven
Million Four Hundred and Eighty thousand United State Dollars) I was
credited to the escrow account by a Client who unfortunately died on July
15, 2015 in a fatal plane crash in North China, in which his whole family
perished. Based on these negative circumstances, the deceased client has
nothing to do with his immediate family or the beneficiary left to submit
an application for payment of funds to the bank's management. In connection
with this opportunity, I am contacting you to act as a deceased client
beneficiary to receive funds in your country.

I will use my position and influence in the bank, working hand in hand with
you on legal procedures and guidelines on how to materialize the successful
transfer of funds to the external account data you provided. You really
need the ability to be reliable, honest, trustworthy and keep all the
information related to this transaction and your participation as a
beneficiary strictly confidential, because you can understand that the
fewer people involved, the better. I am ready to offer you 40% of the total
funds for your vital role as the beneficiary of the funds, and I assured
you that there will be no risk or any compromising actions against your
freedom or reputation in connection with your participation in this deal.

I hope in favor of your urgent reply.

Best regards.
Mr Beazley Richard Mavin

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:08 PM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of  copper house wire [aka
> ROMEX]
> Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry
> standards.
> Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.
>
> Mount them into the generator
> Plug in the generator.
>
> I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.
>
> Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
> Copper is entirely different than silver.
> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY
> useless.
> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to
> view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
> strong'
>
> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out
> of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
> things]
>
> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
> make copper.
>
> *Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
> these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
> and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
> may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
> toxic ]*
>
> *Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.*
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:
>
>> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
>> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
>> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
>> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
>> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
>> immersed in the distilled water.
>> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
>> would I have a better product?
>> Silver/Copper combo?
>> Regardsgm
>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
>> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread BEAZLEY RICHARD MAVIN
Good day,

I am Mr Beazley Richard Mavin. a banker by profession, I worked for 15
years at First Gulf Bank in Abu Dhabi (United Arab Emirates), currently
holding the position of Audit Director at the Bank's accounting department.
I have the opportunity to transfer the amount of $11,480,000 USD (Eleven
Million Four Hundred and Eighty thousand United State Dollars) I was
credited to the escrow account by a Client who unfortunately died on July
15, 2015 in a fatal plane crash in North China, in which his whole family
perished. Based on these negative circumstances, the deceased client has
nothing to do with his immediate family or the beneficiary left to submit
an application for payment of funds to the bank's management. In connection
with this opportunity, I am contacting you to act as a deceased client
beneficiary to receive funds in your country.

I will use my position and influence in the bank, working hand in hand with
you on legal procedures and guidelines on how to materialize the successful
transfer of funds to the external account data you provided. You really
need the ability to be reliable, honest, trustworthy and keep all the
information related to this transaction and your participation as a
beneficiary strictly confidential, because you can understand that the
fewer people involved, the better. I am ready to offer you 40% of the total
funds for your vital role as the beneficiary of the funds, and I assured
you that there will be no risk or any compromising actions against your
freedom or reputation in connection with your participation in this deal.

I hope in favor of your urgent reply.

Best regards.
Mr Beazley Richard Mavin

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:28 AM nessie  wrote:

> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
> immersed in the distilled water.
> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
> would I have a better product?
> Silver/Copper combo?
> Regardsgm
> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread Sandra George
Thanks Ode you are totally entitled to your opinion however if you have read 
the literature I sent you I am surprised at your reaction - in my humble 
opinion this is a global health breakthrough like no other in my lifetime - I 
have understood you over the past 17 years then I was completely mistaken in 
your understanding of how the body works!!!  At least I tried
Peace, love, good health & happiness  be yours for a wonderful Season no matter 
how you choose to spend the time
Sandee
An Attitude of gratitude & Awareness is everything!!!
Life Wave X39 Patch - www.lifewave.com/sandygeorge
Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products
For Topical Gel & Eye Drops
oha...@juno.cpm or san...@spiceisle.com



> On 9 Dec 2019, at 8:38 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven't seen anything that says you want me to.
> So far as the lightwave devise goes...no opinion. 
> "Anything is possible in the quantum non-local field"
> But until it's repeatable by most, it's still magic.
> ie: Science is repeatable magic.
> ..and people can make any claims they want to.
> 
> ode
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:09 AM Sandra George  wrote:
>> 
>> Ode why will you not contact me?
>> 
>> Peace, love, good health & happiness  be yours
>> Sandee
>> An Attitude of gratitude & Awareness is everything!!!
>> Life Wave X39 Patch - www.lifewave.com/sandygeorge
>> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products
>> For Topical Gel & Eye Drops
>> oha...@juno.cpm or san...@spiceisle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On 8 Dec 2019, at 7:08 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of  copper house wire [aka 
>>> ROMEX] 
>>> Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry standards.
>>> Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.
>>> 
>>> Mount them into the generator 
>>> Plug in the generator.
>>> 
>>> I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.
>>> 
>>> Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
>>> Copper is entirely different than silver.
>>> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will 
>>> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used 
>>> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
>>> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
>>> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
>>> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view 
>>> the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how 
>>> strong'
>>> 
>>> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of 
>>> the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird 
>>> things]
>>> 
>>> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to 
>>> make copper.
>>> 
>>> Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control these 
>>> metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic and may 
>>> alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation may be 
>>> advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]
>>> 
>>> Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:
 I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
 I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
 I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
 My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
 . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
 immersed in the distilled water.
 If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
 would I have a better product? 
 Silver/Copper combo?
 Regardsgm
 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 
 Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic 
 discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread Olushola Camara
I would also caution about putting colloidal copper in your body.
Bio-available copper is very important, as it  drives 30+ enzymes that are
essential to our day-to-day life. Also  the antioxidants Superoxide
dismutase (SOD), Glutathione (GSH), Glutathione peroxidase ([GSH-Px),
and Chloramphenicol
acetyltransferaseare (CAT) are dependent on bio-available copper. The key
word here is bio-available. If it is not bio-available it will not do its
job and can cause more harm than good. I don't think colloidal copper is
bio-available.

Also  copper and zinc must be balanced, too much of either one depletes the
other. Mineral balancing is absolutely essential for good health and one
should get a mineral test first. BTW liver is rich in bio-available copper.

Olushola

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:14 AM  wrote:

> GM,
>
> I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your
> body. Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack
> your liver.
>
> For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver,
> no advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
>
>
> https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
>
> Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
>
> Arnold
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *nessie 
> *Sent: *Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
>
>
>
> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
> immersed in the distilled water.
> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
> would I have a better product?
> Silver/Copper combo?
> Regardsgm
>
> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
>
>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread Ode Coyote
Copper forms a patina like Aluminum does and becomes non reactive.  Copper
pipes don't dissolve into the water which is why they make good pipes.
HOWEVER, some people have acidic water and their copper pipes DO eventually
dissolve into it..and that makes plumbers rich.
What you are drinking depends of what type of acid.  Is it Copper Chloride,
Copper Sulfate or Sulfide?

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 8:58 AM Robert Banever 
wrote:

>
> Arnold,
>
> I am using a device called "Copper-Zap".  It's a pure copper
> device that you insert into your nasal passage at the first sign of a
> cold.  You leave it there for 60 seconds.  I've never had any side effects
> that I can detect and it got rid of my cold symptoms promptly.  What
> happens to people who have copper pipes in their home?  They're ingesting
> copper ions daily, are the not?
>
> Bob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: abela...@atlasnova.com
> Sent: Dec 7, 2019 9:14 PM
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"
> Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
>
> GM,
>
> I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your
> body. Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack
> your liver.
>
> For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver,
> no advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
>
>
> https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
>
> Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
>
> Arnold
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *nessie 
> *Sent: *Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
>
>
>
> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
> immersed in the distilled water.
> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
> would I have a better product?
> Silver/Copper combo?
> Regardsgm
>
> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
> Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
>
>
>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-09 Thread Ode Coyote
I haven't seen anything that says you want me to.
So far as the lightwave devise goes...no opinion.
"Anything is possible in the quantum non-local field"
But until it's repeatable by most, it's still magic.
ie: Science is repeatable magic.
..and people can make any claims they want to.

ode

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:09 AM Sandra George  wrote:

>
> Ode why will you not contact me?
>
> Peace, love, good health & happiness  be yours
> Sandee
> An Attitude of gratitude & Awareness is everything!!!
> Life Wave X39 Patch - www.lifewave.com/sandygeorge
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products
> For Topical Gel & Eye Drops
> oha...@juno.cpm or san...@spiceisle.com
>
>
>
> On 8 Dec 2019, at 7:08 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of  copper house wire [aka
> ROMEX]
> Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry
> standards.
> Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.
>
> Mount them into the generator
> Plug in the generator.
>
> I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.
>
> Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
> Copper is entirely different than silver.
> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY
> useless.
> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to
> view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
> strong'
>
> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out
> of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
> things]
>
> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
> make copper.
>
> *Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
> these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
> and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
> may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
> toxic ]*
>
> *Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.*
>
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:
>
>> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
>> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
>> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
>> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
>> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
>> immersed in the distilled water.
>> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
>> would I have a better product?
>> Silver/Copper combo?
>> Regardsgm
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>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread Dan Nave
That looks like an interesting concept and device but at $69 it is
outrageously expensive.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:46 AM Robert Banever 
wrote:

>
> Speaking of copper I recently purchased a pure copper device called the
> Copper-Zap.  It's placed in the nasal passageways for 60 seconds when you
> feel a cold coming on.  I've used it twice so far and if certainly got rid
> of any sensation of a virus attacking my sinus cavity.  Copper alone is
> known to kill or inactivate both virus and bacteria.  I wonder if copper
> pipes in peoples homes are doing the same thing?
>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread Dan Nave
Arm and Hammer baking soda recommends 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2
cup of water, check out the instructions on the box.  You can take it more
than one time a day, but I don't think you should take large quantities
continually.  I suspect if you take 1 teaspoon or more at a time, you might
get diarrhea.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

>   And speaking of alkaline water, what opinions are there about a tsp of
> baking soda to a glass of water?
>

> Jean
>
> **
>
>


Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread PT Ferrance
Would wearing a copper piece of jewelry offer enough copper ions to be 
healthful?Thanks.PT
 

On Sunday, December 8, 2019, 6:08:35 AM EST, Ode Coyote 
 wrote:  
 
 
Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of copper house wire [aka ROMEX] 
Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry standards.
Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.

Mount them into the generator 
Plug in the generator.

I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.

Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will never 
have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used and a 
conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view the 
Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how strong'

Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of the 
water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird things]

It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to make 
copper.

Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control these 
metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic and may 
alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation may be 
advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]

Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:

  I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
 I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
 I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
 My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
 . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
 immersed in the distilled water.
 If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
 would I have a better product? 
 Silver/Copper combo?
 Regardsgm
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RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread abeland1
Bob,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_toxicity
Arnold

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From: Robert Banever
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 5:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor


Arnold,

        I am using a device called "Copper-Zap".  It's a pure copper device 
that you insert into your nasal passage at the first sign of a cold.  You leave 
it there for 60 seconds.  I've never had any side effects that I can detect and 
it got rid of my cold symptoms promptly.  What happens to people who have 
copper pipes in their home?  They're ingesting copper ions daily, are the not?

Bob
-Original Message- 
From: abela...@atlasnova.com 
Sent: Dec 7, 2019 9:14 PM 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor 
GM,
I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your body. 
Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack your liver.
For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver, no 
advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
Arnold
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: nessie
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
 
I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
. silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
immersed in the distilled water.
If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
would I have a better product? 
Silver/Copper combo?
Regardsgm
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RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread Robert Banever
Arnold,        I am using a device called "Copper-Zap".  It's a pure copper device that you insert into your nasal passage at the first sign of a cold.  You leave it there for 60 seconds.  I've never had any side effects that I can detect and it got rid of my cold symptoms promptly.  What happens to people who have copper pipes in their home?  They're ingesting copper ions daily, are the not?Bob-Original Message-
From: abela...@atlasnova.com
Sent: Dec 7, 2019 9:14 PM
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

GM,I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your body. Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack your liver.For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver, no advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.Arnold  Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: nessieSent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on. silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inchesimmersed in the distilled water.If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangerswould I have a better product? Silver/Copper combo?Regardsgm-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour  



Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread Robert Banever
Speaking of copper I recently purchased a pure copper device called the Copper-Zap.  It's placed in the nasal passageways for 60 seconds when you feel a cold coming on.  I've used it twice so far and if certainly got rid of any sensation of a virus attacking my sinus cavity.  Copper alone is known to kill or inactivate both virus and bacteria.  I wonder if copper pipes in peoples homes are doing the same thing?-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: Dec 8, 2019 3:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor


Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of 
copper house wire [aka ROMEX] 
Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry standards.
Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.
Mount them into the generator 
Plug in the generator.
I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.
Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it 
will never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't 
being used and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to 
view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  
'how strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out
 of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other 
weird things]

It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to make copper.Be
 aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control 
these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be 
toxic and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium 
supplementation may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much 
Selenium is quite toxic ]

Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie <nes...@shaw.ca> wrote:
  


  
  
I make  consistent batches of
cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
. silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4
inches
immersed in the distilled water.
If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver
hangers
would I have a better product? 
Silver/Copper combo?
Regardsgm
  
  



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Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread Sandra George

Ode why will you not contact me?

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> On 8 Dec 2019, at 7:08 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> 
> Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of  copper house wire [aka 
> ROMEX] 
> Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry standards.
> Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.
> 
> Mount them into the generator 
> Plug in the generator.
> 
> I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.
> 
> Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
> Copper is entirely different than silver.
> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will 
> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used 
> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view 
> the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how strong'
> 
> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of 
> the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird 
> things]
> 
> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to make 
> copper.
> 
> Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control these 
> metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic and may 
> alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation may be 
> advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]
> 
> Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:
>> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
>> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
>> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
>> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
>> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
>> immersed in the distilled water.
>> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
>> would I have a better product? 
>> Silver/Copper combo?
>> Regardsgm
>> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 
>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic 
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Re: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-08 Thread Ode Coyote
Go to the hardware store and get a foot or so of  copper house wire [aka
ROMEX]
Copper wire for electrical applications is 99.9% pure by industry standards.
Make the electrodes about 6 to 7 inches long.

Mount them into the generator
Plug in the generator.

I personally run a quart batch for around 24 hours.

Place the generator with electrodes in distilled water and go away.
Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view
the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
strong'

Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of
the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
things]

It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
make copper.

*Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
toxic ]*

*Copper is often a component in skin cremes as it helps build collagen.*

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:28 PM nessie  wrote:

> I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
> I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
> I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
> My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
> . silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
> immersed in the distilled water.
> If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
> would I have a better product?
> Silver/Copper combo?
> Regardsgm
> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
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RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

2019-12-07 Thread abeland1
GM,
I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your body. 
Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack your liver.
For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver, no 
advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
Arnold


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: nessie
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
. silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
immersed in the distilled water.
If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
would I have a better product? 
Silver/Copper combo?
Regardsgm
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Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-22 Thread Bill Kingsbury


Is colloidal copper mostly "free copper"?

You don't want too much free copper, which can be toxic.

--Bill


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18827576

Brewer GJ. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2008 Nov;11(6):727-32.

The risks of free copper in the body and the development of useful anticopper 
drugs.

Abstract

PURPOSE OF REVIEW: To review the toxicity and risks of free copper in Wilson's 
disease, Alzheimer's disease, other disease of neurodegeneration, and cognitive 
loss in the general population. We will also review the anticopper drugs and 
how lowering free copper levels with an anticopper drug inhibits fibrosis, 
inflammation, and autoimmunity.

RECENT FINDINGS: Some exciting recent work indicates that free copper levels 
are increased in Alzheimer's disease, and copper may be involved in disease 
pathogenesis, opening the way to possible therapy of Alzheimer's disease with 
anticopper drugs. Copper may also be involved in other diseases of 
neurodegeneration. A very exciting recent study indicts high intake of copper, 
mostly from copper supplements, in conjunction with a high-fat diet in more 
rapid cognitive decline in the general population. Other data indicate that 
even low levels of copper in drinking water, perhaps similar to copper 
supplements, bypasses the liver, enters the circulation, increases the 
blood-brain penetration of copper, and may cause damage.

SUMMARY: Some of the implications are that Alzheimer's disease and other 
diseases of neurodegeneration and fibrotic, inflammatory, and autoimmune 
diseases may be treatable by lowering the availability of free copper. People 
in the general population may wish to take steps to lower their free copper 
levels and, in particular, to abstain from taking copper supplements and 
ingesting significant amounts of copper in drinking water.

PMID: 18827576 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]




--- At 03:35 PM 2018-07-16, PT Ferrance wrote:
>
>Hello,
>There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the body 
>and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this list made 
>colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
>Thanks.
>PT
>
>
>  


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Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-20 Thread Reid Harvey
Is there any advantage of copper over silver, considering that the cost
would be just about the same?  Wouldn't the fact of 'no current runaway'
only be an issue for those who sleep through whichever process, while using
the less expensive generators?  Should we feel the need to tell the newbies
about colloidal copper?

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Hi Ode,
> Do you have directions for making it?  I really need something more
> specific and then I will get the wires.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Ode Coyote 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:33 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT
>
> It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.
> Copper is entirely different than silver.
> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY
> useless.
> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to
> view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
> strong'
> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out
> of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
> things]
> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
> make copper.
> *Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
> these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
> and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
> may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
> toxic ]*
>
> *You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPM*
>
> *Ode*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:
>
> Hallo PT,
> Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special
> equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage
> required)
> However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker
> is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods
> for copper rods and complete the process.
> How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size?
> Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me ,
> go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/ silver-list@eskimo.com/
> maillist.html
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html>
> I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-))
> OK, Tony
>
> --
>
> On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
> Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT
>
> Hello,
> There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the
> body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this
> list made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-20 Thread Ode Coyote
Basically, hook up 2 copper wires to a 24 volt DC power supply [or 3 nines
for 27 volts], submerge in distilled water and let it run.
I let a quart batch run for 24 hours. [for no particular reason other than
I get a good bright TE]
It will not 'Runaway'

16-18 volts is probably enough

Ode



On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:46 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Hi Ode,
> Do you have directions for making it?  I really need something more
> specific and then I will get the wires.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Ode Coyote 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:33 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT
>
> It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.
> Copper is entirely different than silver.
> It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
> never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
> and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
> Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY
> useless.
> Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
> The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to
> view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
> strong'
> Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out
> of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
> things]
> It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
> make copper.
> *Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
> these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
> and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
> may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
> toxic ]*
>
> *You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPM*
>
> *Ode*
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:
>
> Hallo PT,
> Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special
> equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage
> required)
> However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker
> is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods
> for copper rods and complete the process.
> How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size?
> Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me ,
> go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/ silver-list@eskimo.com/
> maillist.html
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html>
> I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-))
> OK, Tony
>
> --
>
> On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
> Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT
>
> Hello,
> There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the
> body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this
> list made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-19 Thread PT Ferrance
Hi Ode,Do you have directions for making it?  I really need something more 
specific and then I will get the wires.Thanks.PT


  From: Ode Coyote 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:33 AM
 Subject: Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT
   
It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.Copper is entirely different than 
silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will never 
have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used and a 
conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view the 
Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of the 
water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird things]It  
is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to make 
copper.
Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control these 
metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic and may 
alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation may be 
advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]
You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPMOde


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:

Hallo PT, Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires 
special equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage 
required) However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver 
maker is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods 
for copper rods and complete the process. How to check the ppm or strength? 
Keeping quality? particle size? Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some 
years ago. Dont trust me , go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/ 
silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth 
of info there. :-)) OK, Tony

On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :Subject : CS>colloidal copper 
- OT
Hello,There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the 
body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this list 
made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?Thanks.PT  



   

Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-17 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks Ode and Tony.  Not knowing much about electronics, perhaps it is best I 
try to find some to purchase.PT

  From: Ode Coyote 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 5:33 AM
 Subject: Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT
   
It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.Copper is entirely different than 
silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will never 
have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used and a 
conductivity related "Auto Off"  will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view the 
Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of the 
water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird things]It  
is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to make 
copper.
Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control these 
metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic and may 
alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation may be 
advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]
You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPMOde


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:

Hallo PT, Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires 
special equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage 
required) However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver 
maker is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods 
for copper rods and complete the process. How to check the ppm or strength? 
Keeping quality? particle size? Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some 
years ago. Dont trust me , go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/ 
silver-list@eskimo.com/ maillist.html I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth 
of info there. :-)) OK, Tony

On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :Subject : CS>colloidal copper 
- OT
Hello,There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the 
body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this list 
made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?Thanks.PT  



   

Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-17 Thread Tony Moody
Thanks Ode, for you practical , hands on knowledge.

OK, 
Tony 



On 17 Jul 2018 at 5:33, Ode Coyote wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.
Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it 
will never have current "runaway"..meaning: Current controls aren't 
being used and a conductivity related "Auto Off" will not work.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them 
TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer 
to view the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much 
about 'how strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both 
out of the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or 
other weird things]
It is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to 
make copper.
Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to 
control these metals levels, internal consumption of too much 
copper can be toxic and may alter your ability to eliminate 
silver. Selenium supplementation may be advisable. [ But don't 
over do that as to much Selenium is quite toxic ]

You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPM
Ode


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:
Hallo PT,
Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special 
equipment to make pure 
copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage required)
However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker is 
quite possible: 
Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods for copper rods and 
complete the process.
How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size?
Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me , go 
to : 
https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-))
OK, Tony



On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT

Hello,
There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the 
body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this 
list made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
Thanks.
PT



Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-17 Thread Ode Coyote
It takes around 20 volts, not 'real' high.

Copper is entirely different than silver.
It doesn't produce Ions, conductivity doesn't increase, therefore it will
never have current "runaway"..meaning:  Current controls aren't being used
and a conductivity related "Auto Off"  *will not work*.
Colloidal copper does not register on any meter making them TOTALLY useless.
Colloidal copper has no flavor or color.
The only way you can tell you made anything is with a laser pointer to view
the Tyndall Effect [light beam] and that doesn't say much about  'how
strong'
Do not mix silver and copper as copper will pull every trace of both out of
the water and drop it to the bottom as a black fuzz.[and/or other weird
things]

It  is also a good idea to use a jar other than your silver batch jar to
make copper.
*Be aware that, because both copper and silver use Selenium to control
these metals levels, internal consumption of too much copper can be toxic
and may alter your ability to eliminate silver.  Selenium supplementation
may be advisable. [ But don't over do that as to much Selenium is quite
toxic ]*


*You can probably use the faraday calculator to predict PPM*


*Ode*


On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Tony Moody  wrote:

> Hallo PT,
>
> Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special
> equipment to make pure copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage
> required)
>
> However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker
> is quite possible: Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods
> for copper rods and complete the process.
>
> How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size?
>
> Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me ,
> go to : https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html
>
> I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-))
>
> OK, Tony
>
> --
>
> On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
> Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT
>
> Hello,
> There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the
> body and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this
> list made colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>


Re: CS>colloidal copper - OT

2018-07-17 Thread Tony Moody
Hallo PT, 
Yes, normal house wiring copper is fairly pure. But it requires special 
equipment to make pure 
copper colloid. ( think it is very high voltage required) 
However, from memory, making colloidal copper-silver with a silver maker is 
quite possible: 
Make some colloidal silver, then swap the silver rods for copper rods and 
complete the process. 
How to check the ppm or strength? Keeping quality? particle size? 
Hmm. There was a discussion of the subject some years ago. Dont trust me , go 
to : 
https://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html 
I typed in 'copper' and there is a wealth of info there. :-)) 
OK, Tony



On 16 Jul 2018 at 22:35, PT Ferrance wrote about :
Subject : CS>colloidal copper - OT

Hello,
There has been a conversation going on about the need for copper in the body 
and people have written about colloidal copper. Has anyone on this list made 
colloidal copper? If you have how did you do it?
Thanks.
PT