Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article

[Robert Larson]

... if liposomal C was CURING hep C I wish I would have known about it I wouldn't have done the treatment.  
This is another one where I think cures reported are anomalies  but it's a great adjunct support ...  or is it beyond that?
On Jul 17, 2016 7:24 AM, Marshall  wrote:
  

  
  
Check out vitamin C liposomal.  For instance the google search of
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hepatitis+c+vitamin+c+liposomal

Many reports of it curing Hep C.

Marshall


On 7/17/2016 2:22 AM, Jean Baugh wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
From:  Deborah Gerard <devorahg99@yahoo.com>
  Reply-To:  <silver-list@eskimo.com>
  Date:  Saturday, July
  16, 2016 at 9:53 PM
  To:  "silver-list@eskimo.com"
  <silver-list@eskimo.com>
  Subject:  Re: CS>
  Lyme Disease Article
  Resent-From:  <silver-list@eskimo.com>
  Resent-Date:  Sat, 16
  Jul 2016 19:53:10 -0700 (PDT)




  

  Can anyone
  comment for me about Hep Cif just found out I have
  it and I have been taking CS for ten years...I have no
  symptoms and had testing done yesterday and see doc
  for the first time Tuesday...I was selling my blood
  plasma and they did routine testing and discovered it.
  Any information
  you can give me on how to go after this naturally
  would be appreciated I refuse to take any of Big
  Pharmacy drugs.
  Thanks
  in advance,
  
  
  Debbie
  

  
  

  
 On
Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:16 PM, Phil Morrison
<philmorrison590@gmail.com>
wrote:
  



  

  
  
  Jean Baugh

  
  You nailed it.  
Modern Lyme is a Satan special.
  
  
  
  Check web site
below, and menu select Medical
  
  Articles/Alzheimers.
  
  
  
http://lymediseaseresource.com/Colloidal_Silver.html
  

  
  
  

  

  

  

  


  

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Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article

[Marshall]

Check out vitamin C liposomal.  For instance the google search of 
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hepatitis+c+vitamin+c+liposomal


Many reports of it curing Hep C.

Marshall


On 7/17/2016 2:22 AM, Jean Baugh wrote:



From: Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com>>
Reply-To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
Date: Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 9:53 PM
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>" 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>

Subject: Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article
Resent-From: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:53:10 -0700 (PDT)

Can anyone comment for me about Hep Cif just found out I have it 
and I have been taking CS for ten years...I have no symptoms and had 
testing done yesterday and see doc for the first time Tuesday...I was 
selling my blood plasma and they did routine testing and discovered it.
Any information you can give me on how to go after this naturally 
would be appreciated I refuse to take any of Big Pharmacy drugs.

Thanks in advance,

Debbie


On Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:16 PM, Phil Morrison 
mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com>> wrote:




Jean Baugh

You nailed it.   Modern Lyme is a Satan special.

Check web site below, and menu select Medical
Articles/Alzheimers.

http://lymediseaseresource.com/Colloidal_Silver.html

Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article

[Ode Coyote]

*Tactic that worked for me:*  Treatment of UTI, obvious clearing of blood
in urine, relief of severe burning and pain within 4 hours.

1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda in about 1/2 cup water

Drink it down, wait a few minutes.

Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.

Repeat now and then.



*What that does:*

The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
[BURP ! ]

The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to flush
the excess salt out with.

Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little
or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"

Ode

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Jean Baugh 
wrote:

>
>
> From: Deborah Gerard 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 9:53 PM
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article
> Resent-From: 
> Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Can anyone comment for me about Hep Cif just found out I have it and I
> have been taking CS for ten years...I have no symptoms and had testing done
> yesterday and see doc for the first time Tuesday...I was selling my blood
> plasma and they did routine testing and discovered it.
> Any information you can give me on how to go after this naturally would be
> appreciated I refuse to take any of Big Pharmacy drugs.
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Debbie
>
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:16 PM, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jean Baugh
>
> You nailed it.   Modern Lyme is a Satan special.
>
> Check web site below, and menu select Medical
> Articles/Alzheimers.
>
> http://lymediseaseresource.com/Colloidal_Silver.html
>
>
>

Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article

[Jean Baugh]

From:  Deborah Gerard 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 9:53 PM
To:  "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject:  Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article
Resent-From:  
Resent-Date:  Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:53:10 -0700 (PDT)

Can anyone comment for me about Hep Cif just found out I have it and I
have been taking CS for ten years...I have no symptoms and had testing done
yesterday and see doc for the first time Tuesday...I was selling my blood
plasma and they did routine testing and discovered it.
Any information you can give me on how to go after this naturally would be
appreciated I refuse to take any of Big Pharmacy drugs.
Thanks in advance,

Debbie


 
 
 
 On Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:16 PM, Phil Morrison
 wrote:
  

 

Jean Baugh

You nailed it.   Modern Lyme is a Satan special.

Check web site below, and menu select Medical
Articles/Alzheimers.

http://lymediseaseresource.com/Colloidal_Silver.html


  
 
  

Re: CS> Lyme Disease Article

[Deborah Gerard]

Can anyone comment for me about Hep Cif just found out I have it and I have 
been taking CS for ten years...I have no symptoms and had testing done 
yesterday and see doc for the first time Tuesday...I was selling my blood 
plasma and they did routine testing and discovered it.Any information you can 
give me on how to go after this naturally would be appreciated I refuse to take 
any of Big Pharmacy drugs.Thanks in advance,
Debbie

On Saturday, July 16, 2016 8:16 PM, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:
 

 
Jean Baugh

You nailed it.   Modern Lyme is a Satan special.

Check web site below, and menu select Medical
Articles/Alzheimers.   

http://lymediseaseresource.com/Colloidal_Silver.html


  

RE: CS>Lyme disease-- question on movement of CS through system

[Neville Munn]

No, I don't believe you are being naive.  Until proper scientific analysis is 
done on the many, many and varied EIS/CS products, and in particular the home 
produced product which is nothing like the marketed products, it is mainly left 
to the individual to believe what he/she believes using their own experiences 
and information read as a guide.
 
Freshly made home produced EIS/CS will permeate every organ in the human body I 
believe.  The particle content is way below the size requirement for permeating 
the blood brain barrier.  I can't find that article now, but one can search for 
material to help in making that determination.
 
N.
 



From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Lyme disease-- question on movement of CS through system
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:01:51 -0400


It has been my thought that ionic-size CS could get just about everywhere in 
the body IF the body were FLOODED with CS. I just read about one person here 
who said that no nore than a tsp of 30 ppm was possible before Herxheimer 
effect was too great. But what if it were reduced ppm diluted with more water? 
Many things move across the blood-brain barrier - like alcohol and many Rx 
meds. My knowledge of the human body is small, but it is mostly water, isn't 
it? Am I just being naive?   
Judydownmaine  
 
 -Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease



 


  

RE: CS>Lyme disease-- question on movement of CS through system

[Judy Knowlton]

It has been my thought that ionic-size CS could
get just about everywhere in the body IF the body
were FLOODED with CS. I just read about one person
here who said that no nore than a tsp of 30 ppm
was possible before Herxheimer effect was too
great. But what if it were reduced ppm diluted
with more water? Many things move across the
blood-brain barrier - like alcohol and many Rx
meds. My knowledge of the human body is small, but
it is mostly water, isn't it? Am I just being
naive?
Judydownmaine

 -Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease



A pint in the am and pm should be plenty.  What
ppm is it? Also, CS does not get to the lymph
system, joints, and likely brain.  These have to
be cleared with other techniques.  If you are just
coming down with it the CS has been reported to
work well, but if  you are chronic, then I would
use the full Bob Beck protocol would be called
for.  However the Clark zapper can be used instead
of the blood electrification from my experience.

Marshall

On 6/11/2012 9:21 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:




  Just making sure email got out.  I can find no
one who uses colloidal silver for Lyme disease
except Marshall.  Please reply as I feel like you
can comment on success.  I do not take antibiotics
and feel lousy.  How much CS do you take daily and
when?  I make a pint in am and pm.



   Please call me on 860-881-3734





  rod

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshall]

A pint in the am and pm should be plenty.  What ppm is it? Also, CS does 
not get to the lymph system, joints, and likely brain.  These have to be 
cleared with other techniques.  If you are just coming down with it the 
CS has been reported to work well, but if  you are chronic, then I would 
use the full Bob Beck protocol would be called for.  However the Clark 
zapper can be used instead of the blood electrification from my experience.


Marshall

On 6/11/2012 9:21 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:


*Just making sure email got out. **I can find no one who uses 
colloidal silver for Lyme disease except Marshall.  Please reply as I 
feel like you can comment on success.  I do not take antibiotics and 
feel lousy.  How much CS do you take daily and when?  I make a pint in 
am and pm. *


**

* Please call me on 860-881-3734*

**

**

*rod*

**

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Maple Springs Farm]

hi rod
i just want to add that also extremely helpful for everyone that has lyme is 
going gluten free
also a biggie for me is FIR sauna but the salt/c and the rife that lena 
mentioned are excellent also

Maple Springs Farm 
Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie, Funny 
Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More... 
http://www.maplesprings.com 
On-Line Cookbook 
http://www.maplespringsfarm.com

-- Original Message ---
From: Lena Guyot  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:41:58 -0400 
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease

> Hi Rod,
> CS is not the major protocol in my Lyme fight,(my main protocols are S&C and 
> Rife) but I use it daily, as a nasal mist, eye-drops, tooth rinse, skin 
> toner, and in all my roll-ons of Brook's mix, to which I add tinctures for 
> whatever is needed. It's a better foundation for my potions and lotions than 
> plain distilled water. I also use it with MSM under the tongue at night, as 
> one of Marc Fett's adjunct protocols in lymestrategies. 
> 
> 
> As for drinking more than a oz. or so a day, I usually only do that when I've 
> been exposed to someone else's cold or flu, and it seems to keep those germs 
> at bay or boost my immune system. 
> 
> 
> I'm still not sure whether it causes spirochetes to go into cyst form so I 
> don't make a habit of drinking more than that, hoping these other 
> applications can help me without risking that.
> 
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> 
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> Just making sure email got out. I can find no one who usescolloidal silver 
> for Lyme disease except Marshall. Please reply as I feel like you can comment 
> on success.  I do not take antibioticsand feel lousy.  How much CS do you 
> take daily and when?  I make apint in am and pm. 
>  
>  Pleasecall me on 860-881-3734
>  
>  
> rod
>  
>  
--- End of Original Message ---
 

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Rod,
CS is not the major protocol in my Lyme fight,(my main protocols are S&C and 
Rife) but I use it daily, as a nasal mist, eye-drops, tooth rinse, skin toner, 
and in all my roll-ons of Brook's mix, to which I add tinctures for whatever is 
needed. It's a better foundation for my potions and lotions than plain 
distilled water. I also use it with MSM under the tongue at night, as one of 
Marc Fett's adjunct protocols in lymestrategies. 

As for drinking more than a oz. or so a day, I usually only do that when I've 
been exposed to someone else's cold or flu, and it seems to keep those germs at 
bay or boost my immune system. 

I'm still not sure whether it causes spirochetes to go into cyst form so I 
don't make a habit of drinking more than that, hoping these other applications 
can help me without risking that.

Be well,
Léna
On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:

>  
>  
> Just making sure email got out.  I can find no one who uses colloidal silver 
> for Lyme disease except Marshall.  Please reply as I feel like you can 
> comment on success.  I do not take antibiotics and feel lousy.  How much CS 
> do you take daily and when?  I make a pint in am and pm.
>  
>  Please call me on 860-881-3734
>  
>  
> rod
>  
>  

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Paul Steel]

I agreeTakes way more then CS to cure lyme in 99% of most cases

 
Paul 




 From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
 

Never.  Your case is very complex.  You are still not accepting what you are up 
against.  


On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Rodney Samuelson  wrote:

 
> 
>I make and consume 1 qt per day at 14 ppm.  How many years will it
take?  Rod at cell 860-881-3734
> 

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[David AuBuchon]

Never.  Your case is very complex.  You are still not accepting what you
are up against.

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:

>  ** **
>
> ** **
>
> I make and consume 1 qt per day at 14 ppm.  How many years will it take?
> Rod at cell 860-881-3734
>
> ** **
>

Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012

[Maple Springs Farm]

that would be way cool if he did move his silver list to facebook

Maple Springs Farm
Farm Store - Maple Syrup, Custom Embroidery, Etched Glass, Shoo-fly pie, Funny
Cake Pie, Emu Oil, Dog Art Prints, Handmade Soap and More...
http://www.maplesprings.com
On-Line Cookbook
http://www.maplespringsfarm.com

-- Original Message ---
From: Dan Nave 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:53:28 -0600
Subject: Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012

> I've been on Facebook too long.  I am looking for the "Like" button 
> on this post...
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM, David AuBuchon
>  wrote:
> > If you have been herxing with CS but not improving, killing bugs is not what
> > you need to be focusing on right now.  Lyme is very complicated.  To put it
> > bluntly, you do not have lyme disease like you think you have.  You have a
> > mental concept that you have a lyme bacteria and if you kill that bacteria
> > you will get well.  This is not at all true.  You have a disease that has
> > many flavors and that falls under a broad category called lyme disease
> > simply for lack of a better name.  You need guidance from a professional who
> > treats lyme full time or at the very least the guidance of some experienced
> > patients who have dealt with lyme for years.  You have been stuck on
> > colloidal silver cure-all hopes too long.  You are sedentary and have many
> > other complicating factors in your case.  Killing bugs is not going to get
> > you well.  You have a lot of things that need working on.  Time to adjust
> > your expectations here.  You are in for hard work.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> There any many websites on Lyme disease which I have.  A doctor in Italy
> >> gave me a web site to look at.  I take colloidal silver and only one person
> >> commented on it.  I have take antibiotics and was told that was a no-no.  I
> >> do have antibiotics but only one person said do not use.  Please comment.
> >> How much 10 ppm should I use and how often?  Please call me as I was a 
> >> field
> >> rep in India and Italy and do better one the phone.  Please respond to my
> >> email.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cell phone is 860-881-3734
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> rod
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012/like

[Malcolm]

Totally!

On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 15:45 +1100, Jane MacRoss wrote:
> Aw I miss that everywhere I go!!!  Know the feeling - perhaps this is why 
> the teenagers like say it in every like sentence!!
> 
> Jane
> 
> From: "Dan Nave" 
> 
> 
> I've been on Facebook too long.  I am looking for the "Like" button on
> this post...
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012

[Dan Nave]

I've been on Facebook too long.  I am looking for the "Like" button on
this post...

Dan

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM, David AuBuchon
 wrote:
> If you have been herxing with CS but not improving, killing bugs is not what
> you need to be focusing on right now.  Lyme is very complicated.  To put it
> bluntly, you do not have lyme disease like you think you have.  You have a
> mental concept that you have a lyme bacteria and if you kill that bacteria
> you will get well.  This is not at all true.  You have a disease that has
> many flavors and that falls under a broad category called lyme disease
> simply for lack of a better name.  You need guidance from a professional who
> treats lyme full time or at the very least the guidance of some experienced
> patients who have dealt with lyme for years.  You have been stuck on
> colloidal silver cure-all hopes too long.  You are sedentary and have many
> other complicating factors in your case.  Killing bugs is not going to get
> you well.  You have a lot of things that need working on.  Time to adjust
> your expectations here.  You are in for hard work.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson 
> wrote:
>>
>> There any many websites on Lyme disease which I have.  A doctor in Italy
>> gave me a web site to look at.  I take colloidal silver and only one person
>> commented on it.  I have take antibiotics and was told that was a no-no.  I
>> do have antibiotics but only one person said do not use.  Please comment.
>> How much 10 ppm should I use and how often?  Please call me as I was a field
>> rep in India and Italy and do better one the phone.  Please respond to my
>> email.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cell phone is 860-881-3734
>>
>>
>>
>> rod
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012

[Maple Springs Farm]

Hi Rod
If you are looking for advice about lyme disease, there are several 
email lists on yahoo.
I would join one of them.  There is no easy answer. There is no silver 
bullet. Lyme comes
in layers.  It is like peeling an onion. It's a long hard road. It is 
definately not just one thing
that will cure it. Jump on the lyme list and you will get the 
information you are looking for.

Carol

Rodney Samuelson wrote:

There any many websites on Lyme disease which I have.  A doctor in 
Italy gave me a web site to look at.  I take colloidal silver and only 
one person commented on it.  I have take antibiotics and was told that 
was a no-no.  I do have antibiotics but only one person said do not 
use.  Please comment.  How much 10 ppm should I use and how often?  
Please call me as I was a field rep in India and Italy and do better 
one the phone.  Please respond to my email.


 


Cell phone is 860-881-3734

 


rod

 

 


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Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012

[Tony Moody]

Hi Rod,

Have you checked the Silver List archives?

I searched for Lyme and got over 4000 hits. 

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html

OK,

Tony

On 24 Jan 2012 at 14:29, Rodney Samuelson wrote about :
Subject : CS>LYME Disease 2012

> There any many websites on Lyme disease which I have.  A doctor in Italy
> gave me a web site to look at.  I take colloidal silver and only one
> person commented on it.  I have take antibiotics and was told that was a
> no-no.  I do have antibiotics but only one person said do not use.  Please
> comment. How much 10 ppm should I use and how often?  Please call me as I
> was a field rep in India and Italy and do better one the phone.  Please
> respond to my email.
> 
> 
> 
> Cell phone is 860-881-3734
> 
> 
> 
> rod


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Re: CS>LYME Disease 2012

[David AuBuchon]

If you have been herxing with CS but not improving, killing bugs is not
what you need to be focusing on right now.  Lyme is very complicated.  To
put it bluntly, you do not have lyme disease like you think you have.  You
have a mental concept that you have a lyme bacteria and if you kill that
bacteria you will get well.  This is not at all true.  You have a disease
that has many flavors and that falls under a broad category called lyme
disease simply for lack of a better name.  You need guidance from a
professional who treats lyme full time or at the very least the guidance of
some experienced patients who have dealt with lyme for years.  You have
been stuck on colloidal silver cure-all hopes too long.  You are sedentary
and have many other complicating factors in your case.  Killing bugs is not
going to get you well.  You have a lot of things that need working on.
Time to adjust your expectations here.  You are in for hard work.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:

> ** **
>
> There any many websites on Lyme disease which I have.  A doctor in 
> Italy gave me a web site to look at.  I take colloidal silver and
> only one person commented on it.  I have take antibiotics and was told that
> was a no-no.  I do have antibiotics but only one person said do not use.
> Please comment.  How much 10 ppm should I use and how often?  Please call
> me as I was a field rep in **India** and Italy and do better one
> the phone.  Please respond to my email.
>
> ** **
>
> Cell phone is 860-881-3734
>
> ** **
>
> rod
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Rod.  The best iodine that you can buy is available at 
www.vitaroyalproducts.com.  The owner of this company is a bio-chemist who is 
knowledgeable and skilled in restoring health to people and horses.  Her iodine 
is reasonably priced and does not require a prescription.  Good luck in your 
battle with Lyme.
MA







Rodney Samuelson wrote:

Where can I buy iodine to  kick butt?  Call me at 860-881-3734
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Maple Springs Farm]

hi rod
i have lyme
not using iodine but something similiar
potassium iodide and kelp (i alternate every other day)
both iodine and pottsium iodide and kelp all support the thyroid
and then the thyroid is supported your body can get rid of those
things that shouldn't be there

Rodney Samuelson wrote:


Where can I buy iodine to  kick butt?  Call me at 860-881-3734

 




From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease

 


Rod, here's a heads up from David =

 since we know lyme is a known pathogen, spread by a tick, which tends to

mutate in the body, why not give higher doses of iodine, ie lugols, it 
kills


and weakens pathogens in the body, so the immune system can mop them up.

For my money and experience with iodine, I would be doing just that. 
 To the


best of my knowledge, it does not harm and it has all the potential to 
do so


much good, Pathogens that mutate, generally do it because they are

continuously exposed to an antibiotic, which they figure a way to work

around it, but mutating, and making the antibiotic none affective. 
 There is


not reason for a pathogen to mutate with iodine, as it still gets them.

Secondly I would begin LDN therapy immediately, LDN, low dose 
naltrexone, is


an immune system modulator, that kicks the immune system in high gear.

Another opportunity to chose something that has little to no side 
affects. I


am a member of the LDN group at yahoo, it does me a wonderful job, with my

leukemia. And there are many on that list who use LDN, who also have lyme.

Just my opinion, as I am not licensed to give medical advice, better to do

this than go to an MD, who will prescribe business as usual, strong

antibiotics, that do have side affects, ie yeast/candida, which makes life

difficult.

I just have this strong feeling iodine will kick butt with lyme. Add 
in LDN


and you gotter on a downhill pull, nothing to my knowledge can hide from

iodine, david lubbock tx.



 

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson 
mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net>> wrote:


I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at 
15 parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will 
stay taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a 
non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??


 


Rod  cell 860-881-3734 

 

Re: CS>Lyme disease + LUGOL'S 5% IODINE ON SALE

[Tel Tofflemire]

 
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ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO 87114
TEL TOFFLEMIRE
WWW.QUAILWOODHERBAL.COM
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From: Rodney Samuelson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Lyme disease


 
Where can I buy iodine to  kick butt?  Call me at
860-881-3734
 


 
From:Smitty
[mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011
3:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
 
Rod, here's a heads up from David =
 since we know lyme is a known
pathogen, spread by a tick, which tends to
mutate in the body, why not give
higher doses of iodine, ie lugols, it kills
and weakens pathogens in the body,
so the immune system can mop them up.
For my money and experience with
iodine, I would be doing just that.  To the
best of my knowledge, it does not
harm and it has all the potential to do so
much good, Pathogens that mutate,
generally do it because they are
continuously exposed to an
antibiotic, which they figure a way to work
around it, but mutating, and making
the antibiotic none affective.  There is
not reason for a pathogen to mutate
with iodine, as it still gets them.
Secondly I would begin LDN therapy
immediately, LDN, low dose naltrexone, is
an immune system modulator, that
kicks the immune system in high gear.
Another opportunity to chose
something that has little to no side affects. I
am a member of the LDN group at
yahoo, it does me a wonderful job, with my
leukemia. And there are many on that
list who use LDN, who also have lyme.
Just my opinion, as I am not
licensed to give medical advice, better to do
this than go to an MD, who will
prescribe business as usual, strong
antibiotics, that do have side
affects, ie yeast/candida, which makes life
difficult.
I just have this strong feeling
iodine will kick butt with lyme. Add in LDN
and you gotter on a downhill pull,
nothing to my knowledge can hide from
iodine, david lubbock tx.

 
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson  wrote:
I have taken
CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at 15 parts per
million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay taking it as
antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a non-believer in
antibiotics.  Any suggestions??
 
Rod 
cell 860-881-3734

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I use nascent iodine which is the atomic form and supposed to be better.  I 
just googled it.  dee


On 16 Nov 2011, at 02:02, Rodney Samuelson wrote:

> Where can I buy iodine to  kick butt?  Call me at 860-881-3734
>  
> From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:40 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
>  


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RE: CS>Lyme disease

[Rodney Samuelson]

Where can I buy iodine to  kick butt?  Call me at 860-881-3734

 

  _  

From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease

 

Rod, here's a heads up from David =

 since we know lyme is a known pathogen, spread by a tick, which tends to

mutate in the body, why not give higher doses of iodine, ie lugols, it kills

and weakens pathogens in the body, so the immune system can mop them up.

For my money and experience with iodine, I would be doing just that.  To the

best of my knowledge, it does not harm and it has all the potential to do so

much good, Pathogens that mutate, generally do it because they are

continuously exposed to an antibiotic, which they figure a way to work

around it, but mutating, and making the antibiotic none affective.  There is

not reason for a pathogen to mutate with iodine, as it still gets them.

Secondly I would begin LDN therapy immediately, LDN, low dose naltrexone, is

an immune system modulator, that kicks the immune system in high gear.

Another opportunity to chose something that has little to no side affects. I

am a member of the LDN group at yahoo, it does me a wonderful job, with my

leukemia. And there are many on that list who use LDN, who also have lyme.

Just my opinion, as I am not licensed to give medical advice, better to do

this than go to an MD, who will prescribe business as usual, strong

antibiotics, that do have side affects, ie yeast/candida, which makes life

difficult.

I just have this strong feeling iodine will kick butt with lyme. Add in LDN

and you gotter on a downhill pull, nothing to my knowledge can hide from

iodine, david lubbock tx.



 

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson 
wrote:

I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at 15
parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a
non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??

 

Rod  cell 860-881-3734

 

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Paul Steel]

I have been dealing with and treating lyme for at le4ast 5 years and I think 
every thing Davis said is absolutely true!!!

I drank 20 oz's a day of CS for 6 months and it did nothing for me..

 
Paul Steel
h 508.520.6905
c 508.922.0519
The harder you work the luckier you get!

 



From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease


Hi Rod,

Giving it to you straight...lyme can be very complex, and after talking to you 
last time, I think your case is in fact quite complex.  Many things need to be 
addressed.  Killing the bugs can be perhaps only 10% of the puzzle.  Without an 
experienced guide and a willingness to go to great lengths to address the many 
factors involved in Lyme, I think chances of real recovery are not good.

Mold toxicity, EMF exposure, kryptopyrroluria, food allergy elimination, heavy 
metal detox, general detox, nutritional deficiencies, structural issues, worms, 
parasites, viruses, biofilms, other co-infections, and the list goes on.  I am 
regretful to say that I do not believe it is possible to get well sticking to a 
shoestring protocol.  

Antibiotics work if used at the right time in the right way by an experienced 
practitioner. 

All this means is that there are other problems that need to be addressed that 
you are not addressing.  Lyme is like peeling an onion.  You find the current 
bottleneck and peel back that problem.  Then the next layer of the puzzle 
presents itself and you change gears accordingly.   Killing bugs does not seem 
to be the bottleneck problem for you right now.

Best wishes,
David A. in CA


On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Marshall  wrote:

 
>I know a number of people who have cured lyme using the full Bob Beck 
>protocol.  CS is only one part of it.  If you don't pulse the lymph, and 
>ozonate the brain, it will always come back.
>
>Marshall
>
>
>On 11/14/2011 3:29 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote: 
>I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at 15 
>parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay taking 
>it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a non-believer in 
>antibiotics.  Any suggestions??
>> 
>>Rod  cell 860-881-3734
>

RE: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[Judy Knowlton]

I agree with you --large amounts of CS only very
short term. Imbalance comes in a myriad forms!
D3 of course
Whose propolis do you use, and why?
Judy K

___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: D Glover [mailto:mothman...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 9:49 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lee Williams
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness
and CS





On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:47 AM, D Glover
 wrote:

  Hi Judy, I get almost 100% results against cold
and flu with one capsule of propolis a day, which
is proven to give 82% preventative value against
these diseases. Since starting using that I also
began to use Vit D3 every day, several thousand
micrograms a day, and that has really strengthened
that effect. On the extremely rare occasions where
I even start to get a mild runny nose or sneezes,
it is because I have stopped using the propolis
for a week or two, and simply having a couple of
capsules of propolis clears the runny nose up
overnight like magic. I read recently that
antibiotics can possibly damage the immune system
by killing off certain strains of bacteria in the
gut. I can confirm that that can happen, as I also
used a litre of CS a day for a while, and gave
myself sterile gut syndrome, so I would recommend
to you that you don't use so much CS as it will
kill anything it touches, good bacteria and bad.
People usually think it does not touch good
bacteria, but this is because you have a couple of
pounds in the gut, so small amounts of CS won't
cause any noticeable damage to them, to replenish
my bacteria I used Kiki Soil Based Organisms, an
extremely good product with good clinical testing,
and am completely back to full function in this
regard now.

  Dave Glover.


  On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Judy Knowlton
 wrote:

.
It seems to me we often use too LITTLE CS to
really wipe out the offending bug.
Recently my granddaughter -- age 14 -- "gave"
me a bad ccough, that turned into
bronchitis, or perhaps even bronchial
pneumonia. She had the cough for almost 2 months
before getting well, Friends in my Maine town
have had the same experience.
I had a temp of 101 and decided low doses of
CS were futile. (I consider CS to be a
mild medicine.)  So I quickly worked up to a
quart a day (1/4 cup 8 times in the day)
and broke the fever by evening. I did one more
day at that amount. Although the cough took
a month to really disappear, the illness
itself was over
Judy Down Maine


___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: Rodney Samuelson
[mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lee Williams
Subject: CS>Lyme disease


I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I
consume 8 oz per day at 15 parts per million and
continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years
of it make me a non-believer in antibiotics.  Any
suggestions??



Rod  cell 860-881-3734

RE: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[Neville Munn]

That's a fairly broad statement you've made there, and encourages me to ask...
1. What form of EIS were you taking?  Your own or store purchased? 
2. If it's your own, was it freshly made and consumed in the waking hours 
{which would be mostly silver ions}? Or older stuff from storage {which would 
have lost a percentage of those silver ions to particle structures}?
3. How long is "a while" that you were ingesting it?
I think for your advice to useful you should include (a) What form of EIS you 
were ingesting {if your own then refer to question 2}, (b) How you ingested it 
{swallowed straight down or swirled around mouth for a time}, (c) For how long 
you continually ingested it, (d) Was anything else ingested at the same time 
{vitamins, supplements, pills, lotions, potions, medicinals, and any number of 
other health related stuff}, and (e) What was the measured or metered silver 
content of that solution?  This information may assist an individual in working 
out what may be the best or better option or method of administration for that 
individual with regard to the ingestion/consumption of EIS, with or without 
Lyme.
Disclaimer: I know nil about lyme, but the above would still be relevant and/or 
useful to other individuals, again, with or without Lyme, in possibly avoiding 
something untoward occurring where the consumption of EIS is involved.  I've 
taken, and administered, up to 16 ounces {or 600 odd ml} a day for several days 
and nothing untoward occurred.
Praps undesired effects may be largely dependant on the individual?  Or a 
combination of any or all of the above?  Does anyone know definitively?  I 
suspect not, but information regarding the above points of interest would be 
useful to me.
N.

Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:48:30 +0000
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS
From: mothman...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
CC: cruiser_sempe...@yahoo.com




 I also used a litre of CS a day for a while, and gave myself sterile gut 
syndrome, so I would recommend to you that you don't use so much CS as it will 
kill anything it touches, good bacteria and bad. People usually think it does 
not touch good bacteria, but this is because you have a couple of pounds in the 
gut, so small amounts of CS won't cause any noticeable damage to them, to 
replenish my bacteria I used Kiki Soil Based Organisms, an extremely good 
product with good clinical testing, and am completely back to full function in 
this regard now.

 
Dave Glover.  






  

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[David AuBuchon]

Hi Rod,

Giving it to you straight...lyme can be very complex, and after talking to
you last time, I think your case is in fact quite complex.  Many things
need to be addressed.  Killing the bugs can be perhaps only 10% of the
puzzle.  Without an experienced guide and a willingness to go to great
lengths to address the many factors involved in Lyme, I think chances of
real recovery are not good.

Mold toxicity, EMF exposure, kryptopyrroluria, food allergy elimination,
heavy metal detox, general detox, nutritional deficiencies, structural
issues, worms, parasites, viruses, biofilms, other co-infections, and the
list goes on.  I am regretful to say that I do not believe it is possible
to get well sticking to a shoestring protocol.

Antibiotics work if used at the right time in the right way by an
experienced practitioner.

All this means is that there are other problems that need to be addressed
that you are not addressing.  Lyme is like peeling an onion.  You find the
current bottleneck and peel back that problem.  Then the next layer of the
puzzle presents itself and you change gears accordingly.   Killing bugs
does not seem to be the bottleneck problem for you right now.

Best wishes,
David A. in CA

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Marshall  wrote:

> **
> I know a number of people who have cured lyme using the full Bob Beck
> protocol.  CS is only one part of it.  If you don't pulse the lymph, and
> ozonate the brain, it will always come back.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> On 11/14/2011 3:29 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:
>
>  I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at
> 15 parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
> taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a
> non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??
>
> ** **
>
> Rod  cell 860-881-3734
>
>
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[D Glover]

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:47 AM, D Glover  wrote:

> Hi Judy, I get almost 100% results against cold and flu with one capsule
> of propolis a day, which is proven to give 82% preventative value against
> these diseases. Since starting using that I also began to use Vit D3 every
> day, several thousand micrograms a day, and that has really strengthened
> that effect. On the extremely rare occasions where I even start to get a
> mild runny nose or sneezes, it is because I have stopped using the propolis
> for a week or two, and simply having a couple of capsules of propolis
> clears the runny nose up overnight like magic. I read recently that
> antibiotics can possibly damage the immune system by killing off certain
> strains of bacteria in the gut. I can confirm that that can happen, as I
> also used a litre of CS a day for a while, and gave myself sterile gut
> syndrome, so I would recommend to you that you don't use so much CS as it
> will kill anything it touches, good bacteria and bad. People usually think
> it does not touch good bacteria, but this is because you have a couple of
> pounds in the gut, so small amounts of CS won't cause any noticeable damage
> to them, to replenish my bacteria I used Kiki Soil Based Organisms, an
> extremely good product with good clinical testing, and am completely back
> to full function in this regard now.
>
> Dave Glover.
>
>   On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Judy Knowlton <
> judydownma...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> .
>> It seems to me we often use too LITTLE CS to really wipe out the
>> offending bug.
>> Recently my granddaughter -- age 14 -- "gave" me a bad ccough, that
>> turned into
>> bronchitis, or perhaps even bronchial pneumonia. She had the cough for
>> almost 2 months
>> before getting well, Friends in my Maine town have had the same
>> experience.
>> I had a temp of 101 and decided low doses of CS were futile. (I consider
>> CS to be a
>> mild medicine.)  So I quickly worked up to a quart a day (1/4 cup 8 times
>> in the day)
>> and broke the fever by evening. I did one more day at that amount.
>> Although the cough took
>> a month to really disappear, the illness itself was over
>> Judy Down Maine
>>
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
>> to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
>> same time they got their tax cuts?
>> So we could acquire a massive debt
>> we can't deal with 10 years later?
>> Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
>> Let's subtract from the poor instead.
>> Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?
>> -Original Message-
>> *From:* Rodney Samuelson [mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2011 3:29 PM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Cc:* Lee Williams
>> *Subject:* CS>Lyme disease
>>
>>  I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at
>> 15 parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
>> taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a
>> non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rod  cell 860-881-3734
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[D Glover]

Hi Judy, I get almost 100% results against cold and flu with one capsule of
propolis a day, which is proven to give 82% preventative value against
these diseases. Since starting using that I also began to use Vit D3 every
day, several thousand micrograms a day, and that has really strengthened
that effect. On the extremely rare occasions where I even start to get a
mild runny nose or sneezes, it is because I have stopped using the propolis
for a week or two, and simply having a couple of capsules of propolis
clears the runny nose up overnight like magic. I read recently that
antibiotics can possibly damage the immune system by killing off certain
strains of bacteria in the gut. I can confirm that that can happen, as I
also used a litre of CS a day for a while, and gave myself sterile gut
syndrome, so I would recommend to you that you don't use so much CS as it
will kill anything it touches, good bacteria and bad. People usually think
it does not touch good bacteria, but this is because you have a couple of
pounds in the gut, so small amounts of CS won't cause any noticeable damage
to them, to replenish my bacteria I used Kiki Soil Based Organisms, an
extremely good product with good clinical testing, and am completely back
to full function in this regard now.

Dave Glover.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Judy Knowlton  wrote:

> **
> .
> It seems to me we often use too LITTLE CS to really wipe out the offending
> bug.
> Recently my granddaughter -- age 14 -- "gave" me a bad ccough, that turned
> into
> bronchitis, or perhaps even bronchial pneumonia. She had the cough for
> almost 2 months
> before getting well, Friends in my Maine town have had the same
> experience.
> I had a temp of 101 and decided low doses of CS were futile. (I consider
> CS to be a
> mild medicine.)  So I quickly worked up to a quart a day (1/4 cup 8 times
> in the day)
> and broke the fever by evening. I did one more day at that amount.
> Although the cough took
> a month to really disappear, the illness itself was over
> Judy Down Maine
>
>
>
> ___
> Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
> to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
> same time they got their tax cuts?
> So we could acquire a massive debt
> we can't deal with 10 years later?
> Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
> Let's subtract from the poor instead.
> Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Rodney Samuelson [mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2011 3:29 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Cc:* Lee Williams
> *Subject:* CS>Lyme disease
>
>  I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at
> 15 parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
> taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a
> non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??
>
> ** **
>
> Rod  cell 860-881-3734
>

RE: CS>Lyme disease --Thoughts on illness and CS

[Judy Knowlton]

.
It seems to me we often use too LITTLE CS to
really wipe out the offending bug.
Recently my granddaughter -- age 14 -- "gave" me a
bad ccough, that turned into
bronchitis, or perhaps even bronchial pneumonia.
She had the cough for almost 2 months
before getting well, Friends in my Maine town have
had the same experience.
I had a temp of 101 and decided low doses of CS
were futile. (I consider CS to be a
mild medicine.)  So I quickly worked up to a quart
a day (1/4 cup 8 times in the day)
and broke the fever by evening. I did one more day
at that amount. Although the cough took
a month to really disappear, the illness itself
was over
Judy Down Maine


___
Time to tax the rich yet? You mean
to pay for 2 wars begun at the very
same time they got their tax cuts?
So we could acquire a massive debt
we can't deal with 10 years later?
Now here's a truly brilliant solution!
Let's subtract from the poor instead.
Who in hell thunk up that?   Hmm?

-Original Message-
From: Rodney Samuelson
[mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Lee Williams
Subject: CS>Lyme disease


I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I
consume 8 oz per day at 15 parts per million and
continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years
of it make me a non-believer in antibiotics.  Any
suggestions??



Rod  cell 860-881-3734

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshall]

I know a number of people who have cured lyme using the full Bob Beck 
protocol.  CS is only one part of it.  If you don't pulse the lymph, and 
ozonate the brain, it will always come back.


Marshall

On 11/14/2011 3:29 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:


I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at 
15 parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will 
stay taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a 
non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??


Rod  cell 860-881-3734

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Smitty]

Rod, here's a heads up from David =

 since we know lyme is a known pathogen, spread by a tick, which tends to

mutate in the body, why not give higher doses of iodine, ie lugols, it kills

and weakens pathogens in the body, so the immune system can mop them up.

For my money and experience with iodine, I would be doing just that.  To the

best of my knowledge, it does not harm and it has all the potential to do so

much good, Pathogens that mutate, generally do it because they are

continuously exposed to an antibiotic, which they figure a way to work

around it, but mutating, and making the antibiotic none affective.  There is

not reason for a pathogen to mutate with iodine, as it still gets them.

Secondly I would begin LDN therapy immediately, LDN, low dose naltrexone, is

an immune system modulator, that kicks the immune system in high gear.

Another opportunity to chose something that has little to no side affects. I

am a member of the LDN group at yahoo, it does me a wonderful job, with my

leukemia. And there are many on that list who use LDN, who also have lyme.

Just my opinion, as I am not licensed to give medical advice, better to do

this than go to an MD, who will prescribe business as usual, strong

antibiotics, that do have side affects, ie yeast/candida, which makes life

difficult.

I just have this strong feeling iodine will kick butt with lyme. Add in LDN

and you gotter on a downhill pull, nothing to my knowledge can hide from

iodine, david lubbock tx.



On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:

>  I have taken CS since June and make my own.  I consume 8 oz per day at
> 15 parts per million and continue to have problems with Lyme.  I will stay
> taking it as antibiotics do not work and 18 years of it make me a
> non-believer in antibiotics.  Any suggestions??
>
> ** **
>
> Rod  cell 860-881-3734
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Trem]

Rod,

Thanks for your email.  You have me confused with someone else.  I have 
never had Lyme.


I hope this helps you.

Best regards,

Trem Williams
customer_serv...@silvergen.com
www.silvergen.com




On 9/13/2011 6:41 PM, Rodney Samuelson wrote:


*Trem,*

**

*I know you took CS for a year for Lyme.  At what month did you feel 
better?*


**

*How much CS did you drink per day?*

**

*Please call me at 860-881-3734*

**

*rod*



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Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

Ya, I got into rife 2.5 years ago.  The doug coil is almost universally
effective at eliminating the bulk of borrelia organisms in the course of
time.  But that does not make most lyme patients well.  Most lyme patients
have multiple infection and multiple complicating conditions. And single
frequency machines like the doug coil are very hit and miss (and usually
miss) when trying to kill infections other than lyme disease.  There are
lots of successes with other infections, but those results are hardly
repeatable in all others.  It is only reliably against borrelia (lyme).  I
for one believe I got borrelia under control in a couple weeks with the doug
coil.  It was never a big part of my overall symptom picture.

~David

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:53 AM,  wrote:

> **
>
>
> In a message dated 8/22/2011 7:46:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> aubuchon.da...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Bartonella is the main bad guy in my case.
>
> On the RIFE list they claim the GB-4000 controls Lyme in 6 months and the
> Doug Coil in two months. I have the GB-4000 with the MOPA beam ray tube
> amplifier. I believe the Doug Coil is cheaper. I wanted the same setup that
> DR Rife was using back in the 1930's when he was curing rabbits of self
> inflicted cancers, TB and more. His reward was to be prosecuted by the AMA
> until he was penny less. He won every case but doing so lost all his money.
> Brickey
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Marshall]

Yep, it can require using the full 4 step Beck protocol to get them all.

Marshall

On 8/22/2011 10:46 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
I've only killed a fraction of the bugs.  There are tons left.  Even 
if there are only a small amount, they can come back.  You have to do 
at least a little maintainance lifelong.


CS will kill whatever as long as you get the needed concentration of 
ions to the needed place.  This is not possible with oral CS in my case.


Bartonella is the main bad guy in my case.

~David

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:58 PM, > wrote:


In a message dated 8/22/2011 6:53:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bbane...@earthlink.net  writes:

  If you've killed the bugs, they can't come back.

Did you ever hear about Herpes Simplex? No matter how hard I try
it is never completely killed. DR Beck said you can kill the bugs
in your blood but some hide inside of nerves, eyes, lymph glands
and escape the treatment. So repeat treatments are required.
Brickey

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Marshall]

Not true.  That is what the doctors want you to believe so they can keep 
selling you stuff to prevent outbreaks, instead of curing the problem.  
I had simplex I for 50 years, and got rid of it 10 years ago.  It can be 
done, and if you believe it you are one step further toward curing it. I 
know for a fact it can be cured, as I am living proof.


Marshall

On 8/22/2011 9:58 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 8/22/2011 6:53:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:


  If you've killed the bugs, they can't come back.

Did you ever hear about Herpes Simplex? No matter how hard I try it is 
never completely killed. DR Beck said you can kill the bugs in your 
blood but some hide inside of nerves, eyes, lymph glands and escape 
the treatment. So repeat treatments are required.

Brickey

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Brickeyk]

In a message dated 8/22/2011 7:46:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
aubuchon.da...@gmail.com writes:

Bartonella is the main bad guy in my case.
On the RIFE list they claim the GB-4000 controls Lyme in 6 months and the  
Doug Coil in two months. I have the GB-4000 with the MOPA beam ray tube  
amplifier. I believe the Doug Coil is cheaper. I wanted the same setup that DR  
Rife was using back in the 1930's when he was curing rabbits of self 
inflicted  cancers, TB and more. His reward was to be prosecuted by the AMA 
until 
he was  penny less. He won every case but doing so lost all his money.
Brickey

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Kathryn Neff]

Regarding taking CSshould it be taken on an empty stomach or does it matter?
Tks,  Kathy Neff 

From: David AuBuchon 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease

I went up to 32 oz as herx would permit.  I'd o ahead an increase the dose 
every day until you feel a slight herx.  6 tsp a day is 1 fl. oz.  So maybe try 
2 oz tomorrow, then 3, then 4, then 6, then 10,...whatever..until you get as 
high as your willing...say 32 oz.

~David


On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Rod Samuelson  
wrote:

  Did you just go up to 24 oz per day or did you have a schedule? And for how 
long at 24?



  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net


--

  From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM 


  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease


  I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while








--

  From: Rod Samuelson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>LYME disease

  6 tsp per day



  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net


--

  From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease



  How much do you take a day?  

  On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson  
wrote:

  I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.  I 
make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success on 
getting better?



  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

I've only killed a fraction of the bugs.  There are tons left.  Even if
there are only a small amount, they can come back.  You have to do at least
a little maintainance lifelong.

CS will kill whatever as long as you get the needed concentration of ions to
the needed place.  This is not possible with oral CS in my case.

Bartonella is the main bad guy in my case.

~David

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:58 PM,  wrote:

> **
>
>
> In a message dated 8/22/2011 6:53:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> bbane...@earthlink.net writes:
>
>   If you've killed the bugs, they can't come back.
>
> Did you ever hear about Herpes Simplex? No matter how hard I try it is
> never completely killed. DR Beck said you can kill the bugs in your blood
> but some hide inside of nerves, eyes, lymph glands and escape the treatment.
> So repeat treatments are required.
> Brickey
>

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Brickeyk]

In a message dated 8/22/2011 6:53:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
bbane...@earthlink.net writes:

If you've killed the bugs, they can't come  back.
Did you ever hear about Herpes Simplex? No matter how hard I try it is  
never completely killed. DR Beck said you can kill the bugs in your blood but  
some hide inside of nerves, eyes, lymph glands and escape the treatment. So  
repeat treatments are required.
Brickey

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Bob Banever]

Dave,

 If you've killed the bugs, they can't come back.

Cheers.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David AuBuchon 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease


  Oh, I think I stayed at 32 oz for a few weeks.  I still take an ounce or two 
a day, because it still keeps the bugs I've killed from coming back.

  ~David


  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, David AuBuchon  
wrote:

I went up to 32 oz as herx would permit.  I'd o ahead an increase the dose 
every day until you feel a slight herx.  6 tsp a day is 1 fl. oz.  So maybe try 
2 oz tomorrow, then 3, then 4, then 6, then 10,...whatever..until you get as 
high as your willing...say 32 oz.

~David



On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Rod Samuelson  
wrote:

  Did you just go up to 24 oz per day or did you have a schedule? And for 
how long at 24?



  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net


--

  From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM


  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
      Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease



  I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while








--

  From: Rod Samuelson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
      Subject: RE: CS>LYME disease

  6 tsp per day



  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net


--

  From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease



  How much do you take a day?  

  On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
 wrote:

  I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx 
now.  I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have 
success on getting better?



  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

Oh, I think I stayed at 32 oz for a few weeks.  I still take an ounce or two
a day, because it still keeps the bugs I've killed from coming back.

~David

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

> I went up to 32 oz as herx would permit.  I'd o ahead an increase the dose
> every day until you feel a slight herx.  6 tsp a day is 1 fl. oz.  So maybe
> try 2 oz tomorrow, then 3, then 4, then 6, then 10,...whatever..until you
> get as high as your willing...say 32 oz.
>
> ~David
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Rod Samuelson  > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>> Did you just go up to 24 oz per day or did you have a schedule? And for
>> how long at 24?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rod Samuelson
>> 860-881-3734 cell
>> new email address  **rsamuelson**2...@cox.net
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM
>>
>> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while
>>
>>  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* Rod Samuelson <**rod**samuelson**@sbcglobal.net**>
>> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: CS>LYME disease
>>
>> 6 tsp per day
>>
>>  
>>
>> Rod Samuelson
>> 860-881-3734 cell
>> new email address  **rsamuelson**2...@cox.net
>>   --
>>
>> *From:* David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
>> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
>>
>>  
>>
>> How much do you take a day?  
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson <
>> rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx
>> now.  I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have
>> success on getting better?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Rod Samuelson
>> 860-881-3734 cell
>> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
>

Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

I went up to 32 oz as herx would permit.  I'd o ahead an increase the dose
every day until you feel a slight herx.  6 tsp a day is 1 fl. oz.  So maybe
try 2 oz tomorrow, then 3, then 4, then 6, then 10,...whatever..until you
get as high as your willing...say 32 oz.

~David

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Rod Samuelson
wrote:

> **
>
> Did you just go up to 24 oz per day or did you have a schedule? And for how
> long at 24?
>
> ** **
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  **rsamuelson**2...@cox.net
>   --
>
> *From:* Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM
>
> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> *From:* Rod Samuelson <**rod**samuelson**@sbcglobal.net**>
> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
> *Subject:* RE: CS>LYME disease
>
> 6 tsp per day
>
>  
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  **rsamuelson**2...@cox.net
>   --
>
> *From:* David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
> *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com**
> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
>
>  
>
> How much do you take a day?  
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
> wrote:
>
> I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.
> I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success
> on getting better?
>
>  
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ** **
>

RE: CS>LYME disease

[Rod Samuelson]

Did you just go up to 24 oz per day or did you have a schedule? And for how
long at 24?

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

  _  

From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease

 

I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while

 

 

 

  _  

From: Rod Samuelson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: CS>LYME disease

6 tsp per day

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease

 

How much do you take a day?  

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
wrote:

I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.
I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success
on getting better?

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 

 

 

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Bob Banever]

To those of you who have had success or partial success with CS, I urge you to 
try Guardian Silver Sol.  This is silver tetroxide, a more active form of CS.  
I had a food poisoning recently and took 3 tablespoonfuls of this, then two 
hours later took two more.  I was well about three hours later.  Amazing.  I 
have no interest in this company at all and I make my own CS, but this stuff is 
like a supercharged CS.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: David AuBuchon 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:13 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease


  I dont know about Paul, but I improved with CS a lot, then platued.  I think 
that CS is very effective against borrelia, and if CS does not get you nearly 
all the way well, I think it greatly increases the probability that a different 
bug is your main problem.

  ~David


  On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Rod Samuelson  
wrote:

Do you feel better now and 24  oz is 3 glass full’s?  How long did you take 
it as I can make quarts with ease?



Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net




From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM


To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease



I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while










From: Rod Samuelson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
    Subject: RE: CS>LYME disease

6 tsp per day



Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net




From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease



How much do you take a day?  

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson  
wrote:

I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.  
I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success on 
getting better?



Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

I dont know about Paul, but I improved with CS a lot, then platued.  I think
that CS is very effective against borrelia, and if CS does not get you
nearly all the way well, I think it greatly increases the probability that a
different bug is your main problem.

~David

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Rod Samuelson
wrote:

>  Do you feel better now and 24  oz is 3 glass full’s?  How long did you
> take it as I can make quarts with ease?
>
> ** **
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>   --
>
> *From:* Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> *From:* Rod Samuelson 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
> *Subject:* RE: CS>LYME disease
>
> 6 tsp per day
>
>  
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>   --
>
> *From:* David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
>
>  
>
> How much do you take a day?  
>
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
> wrote:
>
> I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.
> I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success
> on getting better?
>
>  
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ** **
>

RE: CS>LYME disease

[Rod Samuelson]

Do you feel better now and 24  oz is 3 glass full's?  How long did you take
it as I can make quarts with ease?

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

  _  

From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease

 

I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while

 

 

 

  _  

From: Rod Samuelson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: CS>LYME disease

6 tsp per day

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease

 

How much do you take a day?  

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
wrote:

I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.
I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success
on getting better?

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 

 

 

Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

Yes, you need to take at least 8 fl. oz a day, and if needed, even 32 fl oz
a day. It's safe.

What generator do you use?  What color does it come out?

~David

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Paul Steel  wrote:

> I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Rod Samuelson 
>
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
> *Subject:* RE: CS>LYME disease
>
>  6 tsp per day
>
>  Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>   --
>  *From:* David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>LYME disease
>
> How much do you take a day?
>  On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson <
> rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>  I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx
> now.  I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have
> success on getting better?
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>LYME disease

[Paul Steel]

I did up to 24 oz's a day for a while

 




From: Rod Samuelson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: CS>LYME disease


 
6 tsp per day
 
Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net


 
From:David AuBuchon
[mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47
PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease
 
How much do you take a
day?  
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
wrote:
I have taken
the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.  I make my
own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success on
getting better?
 
Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

RE: CS>LYME disease

[Rod Samuelson]

6 tsp per day

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

  _  

From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>LYME disease

 

How much do you take a day?  

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson 
wrote:

I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx now.
I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have success
on getting better?

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 

 

Re: CS>LYME disease

[David AuBuchon]

How much do you take a day?

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Rod Samuelson
wrote:

>  I have taken the colloidal silver for 3 months and do not have a herx
> now.  I make my own and the ppm is 22.  When can I hope to get better have
> success on getting better?
>
> ** **
>
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
>
> ** **
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating

[needling around]

Sorry, I am traveling and don't have access to that info at the moment.  Send 
me an email back channel and I will reply when I return home.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:11 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating


  Hi PT,

  I was looking for what you described at the link you sent and wasn't sure 
what it was called? I didn't recognize it on the ordering page.

  Paula




-Original Message- 
From: needling around 
Sent: May 18, 2010 10:24 AM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
    Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating 


Hi,
I've been dowsing/bio-field/O-ring testing for probably 20+ years.  The 
single most important thing to remember is to let go of the outcome and totally 
clear your mind when performing the test.  It is really important to have no 
vested interest in what the test shows.  This is why it is so difficult to test 
ones self.  There is an instrument that makes this easier.  It is basically a 
calibrated spring which shows how much force someone can exert in a clear 
situation and then in a test situation.  It is available at www.khtsystems.com.

It is also important to learn how to balance both the tester and the testee 
beforehand so you are all testing in a clear state.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Linda Schmidt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating


  I'm really curious about using calibration/dowsing to determine the best 
course in treating Lyme, or whatever else is going on in my body. I'm still 
very new to using calibration and don't trust my accuracy yet. I would love to 
get your insight (off-list is this is more appropriate) into treatment methods 
that my body wants or needsCS, ozone, rifeTLC (lol!).  


  Thanks so much, 
  Linda


  On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva wrote:


Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS wasn't the 
sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination of both.

To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with 
just CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety of 
protocols.  Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect there are 
other factors.  Even simple dietary changes has proved to be immensely 
successful in clearing lyme.

People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, 
there have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions 
dramatically improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. So 
Negative Ion Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably prove pretty 
efficient in killing off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, skip the salt.

Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his 
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really pushes 
ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at Walmart, don't 
do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies regarding vitamin/mineral 
mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off Ebay.

http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html




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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[bodhisattva]

Without changing the output still is hundreds of times greater than most 
other units. But a new needle will surely improve things. I change my 
needs about every 2-4 months I would guess, not a big deal really. 

Which unit of his do you have?  I own 8 of his units, two of the NIP3's 
with the wire filiment that never needs changing, and 6 of the NIP5e's 
he sells now.  All of them are quite nice.  They sure help with sleep, 
and keeping any illness from spreading between people. I've been 
thinking of trying a unit from Alpha Labs, and seeing how they are.


Garrick wrote:
/Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his 
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really 
pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at 
Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies 
regarding vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" 
for 15 cents off Ebay./


Holy cowI bought one of his on eBay years ago. Never replaced the 
needle. I better do that. I feel nothing coming off it. I put an 
ionizer near my lips and can feel it working. But I feel nothing


Garrick




On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva > wrote:


Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I
round up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So
either CS wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have
lyme, or a combination of both.

To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme
with just CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a
variety of protocols.  Although CS is probably a good factor in
it, I suspect there are other factors.  Even simple dietary
changes has proved to be immensely successful in clearing lyme.

People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out,
there have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative
Ions dramatically improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by
the body. So Negative Ion Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would
probably prove pretty efficient in killing off Lyme. Or in fact,
just C+Ions, skip the salt.

Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that
really pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or
ones sold at Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out
about the studies regarding vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in
the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off Ebay.

http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Shiona Phillips]

Malcolm wrote:


Shiona;

Naah, but he is trying to get stuff written when his mind is tired;
hence "bauxite" for "basalt" and other examples of what Kurt Vonnegut
referred to as  mental gears skipping a tooth.  Ice Nine? Granfalloon?

Bokonon.

 



I've replied on the Off Topic List.


Shiona



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[bodhisattva]

It has been my experience, if you use these gifts for greed, or 
manipulation, you are "Cut off". The purpose is to spiritually grow, 
enlightenment, to draw closer to God, and to help people whenever 
possible. I don't bother to do it to prove a point to anyone, anymore, I 
have nothing at all to prove.  If someone can't handle it, or doesn't 
believe it, that's their business, not mine. I got too much work to do, 
you know?  Gifts from God aren't to be trivialized, and what you will 
find is that as you use them in the right way,  your consciousness, and 
power will grow in accordance with this.


Sometimes you can't use them to help someone because of their destiny, 
or perhaps soul choices.  My mother was recently in the hospital again. 
I got a "Do not intervene", that her soul simply wanted her to learn 
some lessons. However, I got that I could in fact, influence the 
environment she was in, but not her directly.  Therefore, I increased 
the energy in her environment so as to be more helpful in a beneficial 
outcome, and not impede on her choice of growth methods.  Free will is 
of paramount consideration, as hard as it is to realize, some people 
simply choose to suffer and there isn't anything you can do about it, 
and neither will God - unless they ask.


The "Church" has done tremendous damage to humanity by lumping virtually 
everything into some category that makes it sound like you can't do it, 
or ascribes some horrible hellfire/damnation for it.  "Divination" in 
the most pure definition throughout history is really contacting 
spirits, and I agree, not a good idea.  However the definition of 
divination was extended outward to include virtually *EVERYTHING* to do 
with using your "Intuition", which is so silly it defies all explanation 
- if you weren't supposed to use your intuition, and just your logical 
mind, then why would you have it in the first place?!?  In reality, if 
you wanted to constrain cosmic wisdom to yourself, and keep it from 
others, this is the perfect guise in which to do it. Then you go around 
burning or executing those that discover it, and their own intuitive 
connection with God, and the secret is kept. (the fear here, would be 
those common folk, would discover those in power are a bunch of liars, 
and this is why they want to prevent this wisdom) Fundamentalists today 
run and scream away if someone mentions psychic reading. But then they 
go back inside, and "Prophesy" for each other, which is a thinly veiled 
term to make psychic readings sound "Friendly" to Christians.


The first, and wisest choice for spiritual advancement, in my opinion, 
is to run - really fast - away from established dogmatic doctrines and 
institutions. (in whatever form they come) I know a whole lot of people 
that have attended "Church" for decades, and aren't anymore spiritually 
advanced, or compassionate than they were on /*day one*/. Anyone see the 
problem with that picture? If you want to "save" someone, get them OUT 
of the church, and back to knowing God and his Creations.


/*"Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. 
"Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. 
-Corinthians 10:23*/


Marshall Dudley wrote:

Alan Jones wrote:
Bodhi, what are the limitations of this dowsing/calibration?  For 
example, could it be used to determine if a faced down playing card 
is red or black?


Alan

This should be discussed on the off topic list where it is actually 
being discussed. It can be done for demonstration purposes.  And it 
can be done for cheating on cards, for a little while. However doing 
so will decrease your consciousness (integrity is tied up with that), 
and will lower your consciousness, and at some point you can reach 
where you cannot do it at all.


At least for me, my superconsciousness will return wrong answers on 
purpose if I try to use it in a manner that is not of the light.  I 
learned this a few days ago, and now I know.  My brother in-law wanted 
me to "prove" the point on browsing, and had a multiple choice test he 
was taking.  I successfully browsed the answer to what he had already 
answered (but had the answer covered), but he wanted me to answer one 
he had not already answered. It gave a wrong answer then. When I 
checked why I got that I was not to use the gift for "cheating" purposes.



Marshall

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshall Dudley]

That was the line in the message that I was referring to as saying 
"with" instead of "without".  So I wasn't crazy after all. LOL


Marshall

Malcolm wrote:

Shiona;

Naah, but he is trying to get stuff written when his mind is tired;
hence "bauxite" for "basalt" and other examples of what Kurt Vonnegut
referred to as  mental gears skipping a tooth.  Ice Nine? Granfalloon?

Bokonon.

On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 10:31 +0100, Shiona Phillips wrote:
  

Marshall Dudley wrote:


.  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be eliminated with a 
protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck protocol.
  

Another mistake?  Sounds like you are a bit confused.




Shiona


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Malcolm]

Shiona;

Naah, but he is trying to get stuff written when his mind is tired;
hence "bauxite" for "basalt" and other examples of what Kurt Vonnegut
referred to as  mental gears skipping a tooth.  Ice Nine? Granfalloon?

Bokonon.

On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 10:31 +0100, Shiona Phillips wrote:
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> >
> > .  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be eliminated with a 
> > protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck protocol.
> 
> 
> Another mistake?  Sounds like you are a bit confused.
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating

[Paula Perry]

Hi PT,
I was looking for what you described at the link you sent and wasn't sure what it was called? I didn't recognize it on the ordering page.
Paula
-Original Message- From: needling around Sent: May 18, 2010 10:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating 


Hi,
I've been dowsing/bio-field/O-ring testing for probably 20+ years.  The single most important thing to remember is to let go of the outcome and totally clear your mind when performing the test.  It is really important to have no vested interest in what the test shows.  This is why it is so difficult to test ones self.  There is an instrument that makes this easier.  It is basically a calibrated spring which shows how much force someone can exert in a clear situation and then in a test situation.  It is available at www.khtsystems.com.
 
It is also important to learn how to balance both the tester and the testee beforehand so you are all testing in a clear state.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: Linda Schmidt 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating
I'm really curious about using calibration/dowsing to determine the best course in treating Lyme, or whatever else is going on in my body. I'm still very new to using calibration and don't trust my accuracy yet. I would love to get your insight (off-list is this is more appropriate) into treatment methods that my body wants or needsCS, ozone, rifeTLC (lol!).  

Thanks so much, 
Linda


On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva wrote:

Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination of both.To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with just CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety of protocols.  Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect there are other factors.  Even simple dietary changes has proved to be immensely successful in clearing lyme.People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, there have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions dramatically improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. So Negative Ion Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably prove pretty efficient in killing off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, skip the salt.Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies regarding vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off Ebay.http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html


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[Garrick]

*Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really
pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at
Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies regarding
vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off
Ebay.*

Holy cowI bought one of his on eBay years ago. Never replaced the
needle. I better do that. I feel nothing coming off it. I put an ionizer
near my lips and can feel it working. But I feel nothing

Garrick




On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva wrote:

>  Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round
> up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS wasn't the
> sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination of both.
>
> To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with just
> CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety of
> protocols.  Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect there are
> other factors.  Even simple dietary changes has proved to be immensely
> successful in clearing lyme.
>
> People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, there
> have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions dramatically
> improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. So Negative Ion
> Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably prove pretty efficient in
> killing off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, skip the salt.
>
> Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his
> Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really
> pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at
> Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies regarding
> vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off
> Ebay.
>
> http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshall Dudley]

Alan Jones wrote:
Bodhi, what are the limitations of this dowsing/calibration?  For 
example, could it be used to determine if a faced down playing card is 
red or black?


Alan

This should be discussed on the off topic list where it is actually 
being discussed. It can be done for demonstration purposes.  And it can 
be done for cheating on cards, for a little while. However doing so will 
decrease your consciousness (integrity is tied up with that), and will 
lower your consciousness, and at some point you can reach where you 
cannot do it at all.


At least for me, my superconsciousness will return wrong answers on 
purpose if I try to use it in a manner that is not of the light.  I 
learned this a few days ago, and now I know.  My brother in-law wanted 
me to "prove" the point on browsing, and had a multiple choice test he 
was taking.  I successfully browsed the answer to what he had already 
answered (but had the answer covered), but he wanted me to answer one he 
had not already answered. It gave a wrong answer then. When I checked 
why I got that I was not to use the gift for "cheating" purposes.



Marshall


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshall Dudley]

Then you are obviously not part of the set defined by the "some 
people".  Interestingly I had to add that "some people" after 
calibrating and finding that what I had written was not 100% accurate. 
Glad I did now.


Marshall

Dave Darrin wrote:

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone 
for about 10 years.

Dave

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Marshall Dudley 
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com>> wrote:


sol wrote:

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at
least a cup, total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The
stuff I make now, without salt, is about 18 PPM.) On the
3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even put my
pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees.
Took about 6 months for everything to heal that could. I`m
still disabled due to the brain damage, but at least I`m
in no pain and can get along pretty well. It is 20 years
ago this summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this
month since I found out about CS!!! CS literally saved my
life.

Thanks so much,
 Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I
am very different from you, and from others who have gotten
rid of Lyme with CS- then perhaps my
experience drinking over the course of each day between a pint
and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two years, and
never becoming pain free, not even close.. proves I do
not have LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel
chronic EBV improved, but not joint pains.
rats!
sol


Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of
with just CS for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding places,
and cannot be eliminated with a protocol that gets them as well,
such as the Beck protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water, and
magnetic pulsing both the lymph nodes and joints is essential to
get them all.

Marshall



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[Marshall Dudley]

This has been, and is being discussed pretty heavily on the off topic 
list. Please join us there.


Marshall

Linda Schmidt wrote:
I'm really curious about using calibration/dowsing to determine the 
best course in treating Lyme, or whatever else is going on in my body. 
I'm still very new to using calibration and don't trust my accuracy 
yet. I would love to get your insight (off-list is this is more 
appropriate) into treatment methods that my body wants or needsCS, 
ozone, rifeTLC (lol!). 


Thanks so much,
Linda

On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva wrote:

Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS 
wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a 
combination of both.


To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with 
just CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety 
of protocols.  Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect 
there are other factors.  Even simple dietary changes has proved to 
be immensely successful in clearing lyme.


People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, 
there have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions 
dramatically improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the 
body. So Negative Ion Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably 
prove pretty efficient in killing off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, 
skip the salt.


Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his 
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that 
really pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones 
sold at Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out about the 
studies regarding vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in the book "Ion 
Effect" for 15 cents off Ebay.


http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html






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[Marshall Dudley]

bodhisattva wrote:
See the interesting thing is..  Marshall, wherever he is in the world, 
runs much of the same figures as I do, and gets the same results.  
Thats pretty empirical, but so is much of science.


So for example, I calibrate a song, but don't tell him, and in fact, I 
calibrated it 2 years ago!  Then I ask him what he calibrates it at, 
and he is usually absolutely accurate as to what I calibrated it at.  
This is repeated over and over, and the chances of it - well - being 
chance, is well impossible. 


When we first started doing this I was computing the odds of it being 
chance.  But once I got to 100 trillion to one against it being chance, 
I gave up, to a large extent because I didn't know what follow trillion. LOL
What this demonstrates is that cosmic wisdom is universal, and 
complete, and accessible by anyone. But then again, I've known that 
for many years, and have used to it to the betterment of humanity as 
much as possible. That is, the distinguishing from truth vs falsehood 
of anything that exists, or anyone, or whatever anyone says.
Yes, it works superbly.  I have found it exceeding useful for checking 
the accuracy of all my emails and responses to things like this.  I have 
found so many errors in what I write, using the wrong word, not 
clarifying with something like "most" and downright wrong assumptions 
that I am amazed.  I now dowse for 100% accuracy before sending almost 
anything out, and interestingly enough I have gotten feedback from Bohdi 
that some (I had dowsed this message, had "they" instead of "some" and 
was getting inaccuracy in this sentence) are indeed 100% without me even 
telling him.  Never had that happen before dowsing and correcting any 
errors.  That everyone gets the same results certainly does not prove 
that the results are correct, but it does proves that everyone is 
somehow connected either with each other or a higher intelligence.


This is pretty scary to people that make a living out of lying to 
people, which probably explains why much of this was suppressed by 
dogma and fear tactics. A lot of them head for the hills when they are 
ferreted out using these methods.  But this isn't really anything 
mystical, it's more like re-learning to tap into your 
intuitive(spirit) side of you, rather than your physical(ego) side.


This was all uncovered and written about by Carl Jung.  But mainstream 
suppressed much of his work.
Something I believe all humans used to do as a day to day part of life 
before a concerted effort of suppression of spirit began.  If you are 
stressed, fearful, overly busy, confused, have too much mental 
chatter, or are soundly entrenched in the left brain(Ego) then you 
probably can't even understand it, much less believe it.  Therefore 
you shut off your intuitive, and rely solely on your logical for 
existence, that's hugely limiting, especially since the leading brain 
researchers found that the left brain is the seat of pessimism.
I agree, it can be very difficult. I was trained as an engineer and 
scientist.  I guess my first inkling that there was much more than I was 
taught was whenever I would have a problem with I was unable to solve 
consciously I would always dream the answer. I knew it was coming from 
somewhere else, but didn't know where. Well heck, I really still don't 
know where it was coming from.


We should probably take this to the off topic list.

Marshall


Shiona Phillips wrote:

bodhisattva wrote:

  There is absolutely no statistical odds of that happening unless 
we're tapping the same cosmic wisdom.




OR... unless you are both very confused :)


Shiona



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Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating

[needling around]

Hi,
I've been dowsing/bio-field/O-ring testing for probably 20+ years.  The single 
most important thing to remember is to let go of the outcome and totally clear 
your mind when performing the test.  It is really important to have no vested 
interest in what the test shows.  This is why it is so difficult to test ones 
self.  There is an instrument that makes this easier.  It is basically a 
calibrated spring which shows how much force someone can exert in a clear 
situation and then in a test situation.  It is available at www.khtsystems.com.

It is also important to learn how to balance both the tester and the testee 
beforehand so you are all testing in a clear state.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Linda Schmidt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:12 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating


  I'm really curious about using calibration/dowsing to determine the best 
course in treating Lyme, or whatever else is going on in my body. I'm still 
very new to using calibration and don't trust my accuracy yet. I would love to 
get your insight (off-list is this is more appropriate) into treatment methods 
that my body wants or needsCS, ozone, rifeTLC (lol!). 


  Thanks so much,
  Linda


  On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva wrote:


Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS wasn't the 
sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination of both.

To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with just 
CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety of protocols.  
Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect there are other factors. 
 Even simple dietary changes has proved to be immensely successful in clearing 
lyme.

People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, there 
have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions dramatically 
improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. So Negative Ion 
Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably prove pretty efficient in killing 
off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, skip the salt.

Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his 
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really pushes 
ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at Walmart, don't 
do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies regarding vitamin/mineral 
mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off Ebay.

http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html

Re: CS>Lyme disease/calibrating

[Linda Schmidt]

I'm really curious about using calibration/dowsing to determine the best course 
in treating Lyme, or whatever else is going on in my body. I'm still very new 
to using calibration and don't trust my accuracy yet. I would love to get your 
insight (off-list is this is more appropriate) into treatment methods that my 
body wants or needsCS, ozone, rifeTLC (lol!). 

Thanks so much,
Linda

On May 17, 2010, at 6:14 PM, bodhisattva wrote:

> Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
> up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS wasn't the 
> sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination of both.
> 
> To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with just CS, 
> it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety of protocols.  
> Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect there are other 
> factors.  Even simple dietary changes has proved to be immensely successful 
> in clearing lyme.
> 
> People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, there have 
> been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions dramatically 
> improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. So Negative Ion 
> Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably prove pretty efficient in 
> killing off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, skip the salt.
> 
> Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his Ionizers, 
> this is one of the very few actual working units that really pushes ions into 
> the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at Walmart, don't do a darn 
> thing. You can find out about the studies regarding vitamin/mineral mobility 
> and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 15 cents off Ebay.
> 
> http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html
> 

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Renee]

If you are good at it. :-) 

 I use to do it to train myself, though instead of giving myself just a
50/50 chance (red or black) I used the symbols they use for testing
psychics--square, triangle, circle, wavy lines.  I made up a set of cards
for myself, multiples of each, and would dowse each card.  Kept track of
whether I was right or wrong.  Got to the point where I was more right than
wrong.  

samala,
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Bodhi, what are the limitations of this dowsing/calibration?  For example, 
could it be used to determine if a faced down playing card is red or black?

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[bodhisattva]

I agree, lets go off topic after this.

It can surely determine the card face when turned over, it can determine 
everything but the hypothetical, a "Pink Elephant with Wings" can't be 
calibrated, because it doesn't exist.  I've helped people check out 
homes they are wanting to purchase, even in other states. Then later I 
usually always hear back that it was correct.  My father in-law is a 
left brain entrained mathematics professor, and just can't wrap his 
brain around why it would work.  He was purchasing a new home I have 
never seen before, and pulled out the blueprint, and asked me to 
calibrate each room to see which was in a better or worse state of 
condition.  I did, and he looked at my numbers, folded it up and put it 
away. His wife came over and said "That was exactly correct, what do you 
have to say now?".. He didn't say anything, that's usually what happens 
when the left brain is faced with something completely unexplainable.  
The left brain is the side that always wants formulas, careful logical 
conclusions, and a tightly constrained reality that is entirely linear 
and egotistical.


Interestingly, when I am exposed to strong cell phone or wifi signals, 
my left hemisphere starts to vibrate out of tune with my left 
hemisphere, and I start to feel the parallel processing of my brain 
break down. It's excruciatingly painful at times, and highly annoying at 
other times.  Then someone educated me of something called "Left Brain 
Entrainment", which is a technical capability of those that wish to keep 
us from higher awareness. Now researchers have proved, they can "Shut 
off" specific things in people through electronics. 
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0329/scientists-discover-turn-off-brains-morality-center/


Dr. Manfred Doepp studied this for decades, and said those signals are 
causing a "De-Switching" of the human mind.  He discovered a simple 
method of exercise that manually switches your brain back. But also, he 
discovered Tada.. Orgonite keeps your brain from being switched!  
Imagine that, a prominent researcher, studied, and confirmed, orgonite 
stops de-switching.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct1jrTesASI&feature=related

Alan Jones wrote:
Bodhi, what are the limitations of this dowsing/calibration?  For 
example, could it be used to determine if a faced down playing card is 
red or black?


Alan

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:35 AM, bodhisattva > wrote:


See the interesting thing is..  Marshall, wherever he is in the
world, runs much of the same figures as I do, and gets the same
results.  Thats pretty empirical, but so is much of science.

So for example, I calibrate a song, but don't tell him, and in
fact, I calibrated it 2 years ago!  Then I ask him what he
calibrates it at, and he is usually absolutely accurate as to what
I calibrated it at.  This is repeated over and over, and the
chances of it - well - being chance, is well impossible. What this
demonstrates is that cosmic wisdom is universal, and complete, and
accessible by anyone. But then again, I've known that for many
years, and have used to it to the betterment of humanity as much
as possible. That is, the distinguishing from truth vs falsehood
of anything that exists, or anyone, or whatever anyone says.

This is pretty scary to people that make a living out of lying to
people, which probably explains why much of this was suppressed by
dogma and fear tactics. A lot of them head for the hills when they
are ferreted out using these methods.  But this isn't really
anything mystical, it's more like re-learning to tap into your
intuitive(spirit) side of you, rather than your physical(ego)
side.  Something I believe all humans used to do as a day to day
part of life before a concerted effort of suppression of spirit
began.  If you are stressed, fearful, overly busy, confused, have
too much mental chatter, or are soundly entrenched in the left
brain(Ego) then you probably can't even understand it, much less
believe it.  Therefore you shut off your intuitive, and rely
solely on your logical for existence, that's hugely limiting,
especially since the leading brain researchers found that the left
brain is the seat of pessimism.

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Alan Jones]

Bodhi, what are the limitations of this dowsing/calibration?  For example,
could it be used to determine if a faced down playing card is red or black?

Alan

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:35 AM, bodhisattva wrote:

> See the interesting thing is..  Marshall, wherever he is in the world, runs
> much of the same figures as I do, and gets the same results.  Thats pretty
> empirical, but so is much of science.
>
> So for example, I calibrate a song, but don't tell him, and in fact, I
> calibrated it 2 years ago!  Then I ask him what he calibrates it at, and he
> is usually absolutely accurate as to what I calibrated it at.  This is
> repeated over and over, and the chances of it - well - being chance, is well
> impossible. What this demonstrates is that cosmic wisdom is universal, and
> complete, and accessible by anyone. But then again, I've known that for many
> years, and have used to it to the betterment of humanity as much as
> possible. That is, the distinguishing from truth vs falsehood of anything
> that exists, or anyone, or whatever anyone says.
>
> This is pretty scary to people that make a living out of lying to people,
> which probably explains why much of this was suppressed by dogma and fear
> tactics. A lot of them head for the hills when they are ferreted out using
> these methods.  But this isn't really anything mystical, it's more like
> re-learning to tap into your intuitive(spirit) side of you, rather than your
> physical(ego) side.  Something I believe all humans used to do as a day to
> day part of life before a concerted effort of suppression of spirit began.
>  If you are stressed, fearful, overly busy, confused, have too much mental
> chatter, or are soundly entrenched in the left brain(Ego) then you probably
> can't even understand it, much less believe it.  Therefore you shut off your
> intuitive, and rely solely on your logical for existence, that's hugely
> limiting, especially since the leading brain researchers found that the left
> brain is the seat of pessimism.



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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[bodhisattva]

See the interesting thing is..  Marshall, wherever he is in the world, 
runs much of the same figures as I do, and gets the same results.  Thats 
pretty empirical, but so is much of science.


So for example, I calibrate a song, but don't tell him, and in fact, I 
calibrated it 2 years ago!  Then I ask him what he calibrates it at, and 
he is usually absolutely accurate as to what I calibrated it at.  This 
is repeated over and over, and the chances of it - well - being chance, 
is well impossible. What this demonstrates is that cosmic wisdom is 
universal, and complete, and accessible by anyone. But then again, I've 
known that for many years, and have used to it to the betterment of 
humanity as much as possible. That is, the distinguishing from truth vs 
falsehood of anything that exists, or anyone, or whatever anyone says.


This is pretty scary to people that make a living out of lying to 
people, which probably explains why much of this was suppressed by dogma 
and fear tactics. A lot of them head for the hills when they are 
ferreted out using these methods.  But this isn't really anything 
mystical, it's more like re-learning to tap into your intuitive(spirit) 
side of you, rather than your physical(ego) side.  Something I believe 
all humans used to do as a day to day part of life before a concerted 
effort of suppression of spirit began.  If you are stressed, fearful, 
overly busy, confused, have too much mental chatter, or are soundly 
entrenched in the left brain(Ego) then you probably can't even 
understand it, much less believe it.  Therefore you shut off your 
intuitive, and rely solely on your logical for existence, that's hugely 
limiting, especially since the leading brain researchers found that the 
left brain is the seat of pessimism.


Shiona Phillips wrote:

bodhisattva wrote:

  There is absolutely no statistical odds of that happening unless 
we're tapping the same cosmic wisdom.




OR... unless you are both very confused :)


Shiona



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[Shiona Phillips]

bodhisattva wrote:

  There is absolutely no statistical odds of that happening unless 
we're tapping the same cosmic wisdom.




OR... unless you are both very confused :)


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[Shiona Phillips]

Marshall Dudley wrote:



.  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be eliminated with a 
protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck protocol.



Another mistake?  Sounds like you are a bit confused.




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[Shiona Phillips]

bodhisattva wrote:

Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.



OR ...just MAYBE you're method of  "calibration"  is... 
"possibly"  totally meaningless amd misleading?



  So either CS wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have 
lyme, or a combination of both.



and  MAYBE  some of your statements also!



To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with 
just CS,



MAYBE  you have not heard of everything ?


But I will point out, there have been suppressed clinical studies that 
PROVE Negative Ions dramatically improve the absorption and usage of 
VitaminC by the body.



Surprise, surprise!!



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RE: CS>Lyme disease

[Neville Munn]

Very good Dave, Thanks for that.

 

>From my experience both forms serve a purpose, dependant on the circumstance 
>for which either is being used.

 

Although some have said Lyme is different to our Ross River Fever here {for 
whatever reason}, I find I'm still not entirely convinced, some of the symptoms 
seem very similar, praps our RRF is a mongrel relative maybe?

 

Cheers


N.
 








Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:54:36 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
From: davedar...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Neville:
  At the time I was just starting to make my own so I didn't get very well aged 
cs as I used it about as fast as I could make it in Quart batches. When I got 
serious about it I had about 4 Qts ahead ,Later I started making it in gallon 
sun tea jars.
I find it quite difficult to remember exactly as I was going through major 
brain fog at the time.
Dave




On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Neville Munn  wrote:


A quick question Dave,
 
Were you making a quantity each day, and consuming it *on the day it was made*? 
or just consumed whatever you had available at the time.

Thanks
  
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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Dave Darrin]

Neville:
  At the time I was just starting to make my own so I didn't get very well
aged cs as I used it about as fast as I could make it in Quart batches. When
I got serious about it I had about 4 Qts ahead ,Later I started making it in
gallon sun tea jars.
I find it quite difficult to remember exactly as I was going through major
brain fog at the time.
Dave

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Neville Munn wrote:

>  A quick question Dave,
>
> Were you making a quantity each day, and consuming it *on the day it was
> made*? or just consumed whatever you had available at the time.
>
> Thanks
>
> N.
>
>
> --
>
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:54:48 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
> From: davedar...@gmail.com
>
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> BULL SH*T
> Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone for
> about 10 years.
> Dave
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
> sol wrote:
>
> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>
> Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup,
> total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt,
> is about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even
> put my pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees. Took about 6
> months for everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled due to the
> brain damage, but at least I`m in no pain and can get along pretty well. It
> is 20 years ago this summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month
> since I found out about CS!!! CS literally saved my life.
>
> Thanks so much,
>  Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very
> different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with
> CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the course of
> each day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two
> years, and never becoming pain free, not even close.. proves I do
> not have LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel chronic EBV
> improved, but not joint pains.
> rats!
> sol
>
>
> Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of with just CS
> for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be
> eliminated with a protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck
> protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water, and magnetic pulsing both the lymph
> nodes and joints is essential to get them all.
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshall Dudley]

Duh!  It is bad enough when someone misreads something someone else 
wrote, but to misread what I wrote must take the cake.  That is really 
embarrassing.


Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:
"With" is right, it's not a mistake.  "Acute Lyme is difficult if not 
almost impossible to get rid of /*with*/ just CS for some people"


That's actually correct. "Some people" is an important disclaimer, 
because in fact, some people with very new lyme and recent infection,  
might actually cure with nothing more than higher dosages of CS.


The interesting part of calibrating is, different people, at different 
parts of the world, come to the similar calibrated truth, provided 
they are of sufficient consciousness to determine truth from 
falsehood.  You, and I, have in fact, calibrated exactly on most 
things, and interestingly, I pre-calibrated before you did, and got a 
number, to which you sent back to me days later verifying my own 
findings days before.  There is absolutely no statistical odds of that 
happening unless we're tapping the same cosmic wisdom. It's a human 
birthright after all, one that's been obfuscated from us through busy 
distractions of the left brain and conscious chatter of the mind, 
poisons, chemicals, fluoride, and everything else designed to "Cut us 
off".


Marshall Dudley wrote:

bodhisattva wrote:
Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS 
wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a 
combination of both.
That is funny.  I calibrated it after writing it and got a 70 or 80%, 
don't remember exactly. Then I added the "for some people" and got 
1000, then sent it.  What is really funny is that I have a really bad 
mistake in the sentence, it should have said "without", not "with", 
yet still calbrates high, must have to do with intention.




Dave Darrin wrote:

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone 
for about 10 years.

Dave



Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of
with just CS for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding
places, and cannot be eliminated with a protocol that gets them
as well, such as the Beck protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water,
and magnetic pulsing both the lymph nodes and joints is essential
to get them all.

Marshall








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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[bodhisattva]

"With" is right, it's not a mistake.  "Acute Lyme is difficult if not 
almost impossible to get rid of /*with*/ just CS for some people"


That's actually correct. "Some people" is an important disclaimer, 
because in fact, some people with very new lyme and recent infection,  
might actually cure with nothing more than higher dosages of CS.


The interesting part of calibrating is, different people, at different 
parts of the world, come to the similar calibrated truth, provided they 
are of sufficient consciousness to determine truth from falsehood.  You, 
and I, have in fact, calibrated exactly on most things, and 
interestingly, I pre-calibrated before you did, and got a number, to 
which you sent back to me days later verifying my own findings days 
before.  There is absolutely no statistical odds of that happening 
unless we're tapping the same cosmic wisdom. It's a human birthright 
after all, one that's been obfuscated from us through busy distractions 
of the left brain and conscious chatter of the mind, poisons, chemicals, 
fluoride, and everything else designed to "Cut us off".


Marshall Dudley wrote:

bodhisattva wrote:
Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS 
wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a 
combination of both.
That is funny.  I calibrated it after writing it and got a 70 or 80%, 
don't remember exactly. Then I added the "for some people" and got 
1000, then sent it.  What is really funny is that I have a really bad 
mistake in the sentence, it should have said "without", not "with", 
yet still calbrates high, must have to do with intention.




Dave Darrin wrote:

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone 
for about 10 years.

Dave



Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of
with just CS for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding
places, and cannot be eliminated with a protocol that gets them
as well, such as the Beck protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water,
and magnetic pulsing both the lymph nodes and joints is essential
to get them all.

Marshall

RE: CS>Lyme disease

[Neville Munn]

A quick question Dave,
 
Were you making a quantity each day, and consuming it *on the day it was made*? 
or just consumed whatever you had available at the time.


Thanks

  
N.
 






Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:54:48 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
From: davedar...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone for about 
10 years.
Dave



On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Marshall Dudley  wrote:


sol wrote:

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup, total. 
I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt, is about 18 
PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even put my pants on 
without crying in pain from bending my knees. Took about 6 months for 
everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled due to the brain damage, but 
at least I`m in no pain and can get along pretty well. It is 20 years ago this 
summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month since I found out about 
CS!!! CS literally saved my life.
Thanks so much,
 Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very different 
from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with CS- 
then perhaps my experience drinking over the course of each day between a pint 
and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two years, and never becoming 
pain free, not even close.. proves I do not have LymeI did get 
rid of candida, and also feel chronic EBV improved, but not joint pains.
rats!
sol

Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of with just CS for 
some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be eliminated with 
a protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck protocol.  Zapping, and 
ozonated water, and magnetic pulsing both the lymph nodes and joints is 
essential to get them all.

Marshall 





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[Marshall Dudley]

bodhisattva wrote:
Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS 
wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a 
combination of both.
That is funny.  I calibrated it after writing it and got a 70 or 80%, 
don't remember exactly. Then I added the "for some people" and got 1000, 
then sent it.  What is really funny is that I have a really bad mistake 
in the sentence, it should have said "without", not "with", yet still 
calbrates high, must have to do with intention.




Dave Darrin wrote:

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone 
for about 10 years.

Dave



Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of
with just CS for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding
places, and cannot be eliminated with a protocol that gets them
as well, such as the Beck protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water,
and magnetic pulsing both the lymph nodes and joints is essential
to get them all.

Marshall






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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[bodhisattva]

Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round 
up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero.  So either CS wasn't 
the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination 
of both.


To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with 
just CS, it seems to always been a concerted assault with a variety of 
protocols.  Although CS is probably a good factor in it, I suspect there 
are other factors.  Even simple dietary changes has proved to be 
immensely successful in clearing lyme.


People promote "Salt-C" as a good Lyme cure. But I will point out, there 
have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions 
dramatically improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. 
So Negative Ion Therapy, combined with C+Salt, would probably prove 
pretty efficient in killing off Lyme. Or in fact, just C+Ions, skip the 
salt.


Dave Cline is running a very short duration sale of $20.00 off his 
Ionizers, this is one of the very few actual working units that really 
pushes ions into the room. Most of the big name ones, or ones sold at 
Walmart, don't do a darn thing. You can find out about the studies 
regarding vitamin/mineral mobility and ions in the book "Ion Effect" for 
15 cents off Ebay.


http://www.mysticmarvels.com/ionprojector1.html


Dave Darrin wrote:

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone 
for about 10 years.

Dave



Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of
with just CS for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding places,
and cannot be eliminated with a protocol that gets them as well,
such as the Beck protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water, and
magnetic pulsing both the lymph nodes and joints is essential to
get them all.

Marshall

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Dave Darrin]

BULL SH*T
Mines been gone after 42 years of it with only CS and has been gone for
about 10 years.
Dave

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> sol wrote:
>
>> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup,
>>> total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt,
>>> is about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even
>>> put my pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees. Took about 6
>>> months for everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled due to the
>>> brain damage, but at least I`m in no pain and can get along pretty well. It
>>> is 20 years ago this summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month
>>> since I found out about CS!!! CS literally saved my life.
>>>
>> Thanks so much,
>>  Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very
>> different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with
>> CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the course of
>> each day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two
>> years, and never becoming pain free, not even close.. proves I do
>> not have LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel chronic EBV
>> improved, but not joint pains.
>> rats!
>> sol
>>
>
> Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of with just CS
> for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be
> eliminated with a protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck
> protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water, and magnetic pulsing both the lymph
> nodes and joints is essential to get them all.
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>Lyme disease

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sol wrote:

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a 
cup, total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, 
without salt, is about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw 
all the way, and even put my pants on without crying in pain from 
bending my knees. Took about 6 months for everything to heal that 
could. I`m still disabled due to the brain damage, but at least I`m 
in no pain and can get along pretty well. It is 20 years ago this 
summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month since I found 
out about CS!!! CS literally saved my life.

Thanks so much,
  Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very 
different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with 
CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the 
course of each day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 
uS) for over two years, and never becoming pain free, not even 
close.. proves I do not have LymeI did get rid of 
candida, and also feel chronic EBV improved, but not joint pains.

rats!
sol


Acute Lyme is difficult if not almost impossible to get rid of with just 
CS for some people.  Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be 
eliminated with a protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck 
protocol.  Zapping, and ozonated water, and magnetic pulsing both the 
lymph nodes and joints is essential to get them all.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi! Thanks for the birthday wishes! I have a lovely 14 year old girl who has
been walking my Pugs for me recently, and when she knew it was my birthday,
she gave me a Pug picture she had drawn in pastel, it is darling! (She is
very talented. That is something I wish I could do!!) She also gave me a
really cute toy Pug that moves and barks. She made my day very special! I`m
grateful for her friendship, especially since I`m living alone now  and it
gets really lonely around here sometimes. (Thank Goodness for my Puggies!
With them and the other pets, I`m hanging in there... :o)
  I still have achy days, especially when I walk on grass or any other
uneven surface. That`s the brain damage kicking in, I guess. I also have a
burning ache in a foot bone that is very annoying. (The Xray of it was
normal). My hotpad is my best friend now! The heat really helps.
 I think the thing that helps me the most is my thumpy massager. I use it
every evening when I lay down on my bed to read. While lying on my side I
run it down my back, holding it by the cord. It really loosens up the
muscles and I sleep well. I got mine at Walmart for 30 some bucks.
 The other great thing: I have my massage-therapist friend back in town.
She`d been gone for 2 years, but came back to Provo recently. I traded her a
laptop for some rubs, and boy, do they help!! I get an hour rub, clothed,
for 20 bucks, not bad.
I hope some of these suggestions will help you, too!
Marshalee
PS, for anyone interested, I used the Duoflex brand of CMO. It also helped
my former high-school Spanish teacher, who is still my friend forty years
later!! She`s 71 now.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, sol  wrote:

> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>
>>  Have you tried CMO for joint pains?
>>
> No, I have not. It did nothing at all, zero, for my husband (he did two
> courses of it), so I never tried it. Good that it worked for you and your
> dog!
>
>   Another thing, I learned that consuming dairy foods makes my knees ache.
>> Not butter, but milk, yogurt, and cheese all do, it must be the proteins in
>> the damaged milk it is all made of.
>>
>  I am having a big attack/flare of myofascial pain, funny you should
> mention dairy--my husband says I've been eating a lot more dairy than usual
> lately.I had already decided to cut way back. Most of my joint pains
> are caused by tight muscles and tendons, and myofascial knots, or at least
> that is my theory, since I have very little degenerative arthritis except in
> my finger joints, and those seldom hurt. My hand pains have also been from
> tendon problems, trigger finger, etc.
>  Belated Happy Birthdayand it is nice to hear you are doing so
> well.
>
> sol
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[sol]

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

 Have you tried CMO for joint pains?
No, I have not. It did nothing at all, zero, for my husband (he did two 
courses of it), so I never tried it. Good that it worked for you and 
your dog!
  Another thing, I learned that consuming dairy foods makes my knees 
ache. Not butter, but milk, yogurt, and cheese all do, it must be the 
proteins in the damaged milk it is all made of.
  I am having a big attack/flare of myofascial pain, funny you should 
mention dairy--my husband says I've been eating a lot more dairy than 
usual lately.I had already decided to cut way back. Most of my 
joint pains are caused by tight muscles and tendons, and myofascial 
knots, or at least that is my theory, since I have very little 
degenerative arthritis except in my finger joints, and those seldom 
hurt. My hand pains have also been from tendon problems, trigger finger, 
etc.
  Belated Happy Birthdayand it is nice to hear you are 
doing so well.

sol



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CMO was // Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Jane MacRoss]

I used Harry Diehl's formulas - everything they recommended - it came to 
Australia from the US - loose in a huge box - about 100 plastic bottles of 
capsules - customs let it in much to my amazement - wonderful results, I'm 
still pain free in that right knee joint.

Jane 

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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[needling around]

Thanks for the explanation.  I will do some research.
PT
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  From: sms 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 8:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease


Hi PT,
I'm not Marshalee, but I can tell you what CMO stands for.
It is Cetylmyristoleate.  I can vouch for what Marshalee says about it. 
 I wouldn't be without it, and take it on a regular basis.

Here is a little bit more information about it.  I first learned about 
CMO several years back from both Brooks Bradley and Donna Crow.  It is great 
stuff!  There are many brands.  The brand I use is Jarrow True CMO.
http://www.cis9.com/index.html
SMS
---
From: needling around
Date: 05/15/10 01:43:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease

Hi,
To me CMO means Chief Marketing Officer... what does it mean here?
Thanks.
PT
   
  
   

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[sms]

Hi PT,
I'm not Marshalee, but I can tell you what CMO stands for.
It is Cetylmyristoleate.  I can vouch for what Marshalee says about it.  I
wouldn't be without it, and take it on a regular basis.

Here is a little bit more information about it.  I first learned about CMO
several years back from both Brooks Bradley and Donna Crow.  It is great
stuff!  There are many brands.  The brand I use is Jarrow True CMO.
http://www.cis9.com/index.html
SMS
---
From: needling around
Date: 05/15/10 01:43:20
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease
 
Hi,
To me CMO means Chief Marketing Officer... what does it mean here?
Thanks.
PT

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[MaryAnn Helland]

Happy Birthday Marshalee!!  Woo-Hoo on the improved health!  :-D
MA





From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@gmail.com

 Have you tried CMO for joint pains? It sure did mine in! I gave some to my 
elderly Pug, too, and she is vastly improved! It`s great to see a 9 year old 
play like a puppy again!
  Another thing, I learned that consuming dairy foods makes my knees ache. Not 
butter, but milk, yogurt, and cheese all do, it must be the proteins in the 
damaged milk it is all made of.
Just a for what it`s worth...
Marshalee
PS, just turned 58 yesterday, I really feel better now than I did at 48!!





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[Jane MacRoss]

Cetyl Myristoleate.

Jane 

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  From: needling around 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease


  Hi,
  To me CMO means Chief Marketing Officer... what does it mean here?
  Thanks.
  PT
- Original Message - 
From: Marshalee Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease


Hi, Sol, 
 Have you tried CMO for joint pains? It sure did mine in! I gave some to my 
elderly Pug, too, and she is vastly improved! It`s great to see a 9 year old 
play like a puppy again!
  Another thing, I learned that consuming dairy foods makes my knees ache. 
Not butter, but milk, yogurt, and cheese all do, it must be the proteins in the 
damaged milk it is all made of.
Just a for what it`s worth...
Marshalee
PS, just turned 58 yesterday, I really feel better now than I did at 48!!


On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:39 PM, sol  wrote:

  Marshalee Hallett wrote:

Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup, 
total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt, is 
about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even put my 
pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees. Took about 6 months for 
everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled due to the brain damage, but 
at least I`m in no pain and can get along pretty well. It is 20 years ago this 
summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month since I found out about 
CS!!! CS literally saved my life.

  Thanks so much,
   Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very 
different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with 
CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the course of each 
day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two years, 
and never becoming pain free, not even close.. proves I do not have 
LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel chronic EBV improved, but 
not joint pains.
  rats!
  sol


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[needling around]

Hi,
To me CMO means Chief Marketing Officer... what does it mean here?
Thanks.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Lyme disease


  Hi, Sol,
   Have you tried CMO for joint pains? It sure did mine in! I gave some to my 
elderly Pug, too, and she is vastly improved! It`s great to see a 9 year old 
play like a puppy again!
Another thing, I learned that consuming dairy foods makes my knees ache. 
Not butter, but milk, yogurt, and cheese all do, it must be the proteins in the 
damaged milk it is all made of.
  Just a for what it`s worth...
  Marshalee
  PS, just turned 58 yesterday, I really feel better now than I did at 48!!


  On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:39 PM, sol  wrote:

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

  Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup, 
total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt, is 
about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even put my 
pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees. Took about 6 months for 
everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled due to the brain damage, but 
at least I`m in no pain and can get along pretty well. It is 20 years ago this 
summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month since I found out about 
CS!!! CS literally saved my life.

Thanks so much,
 Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very 
different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with 
CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the course of each 
day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two years, 
and never becoming pain free, not even close.. proves I do not have 
LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel chronic EBV improved, but 
not joint pains.
rats!
sol


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Sol,
 Have you tried CMO for joint pains? It sure did mine in! I gave some to my
elderly Pug, too, and she is vastly improved! It`s great to see a 9 year old
play like a puppy again!
  Another thing, I learned that consuming dairy foods makes my knees ache.
Not butter, but milk, yogurt, and cheese all do, it must be the proteins in
the damaged milk it is all made of.
Just a for what it`s worth...
Marshalee
PS, just turned 58 yesterday, I really feel better now than I did at 48!!

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:39 PM, sol  wrote:

> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>
>> Hi, Sol,   Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup,
>> total. I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt,
>> is about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even
>> put my pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees. Took about 6
>> months for everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled due to the
>> brain damage, but at least I`m in no pain and can get along pretty well. It
>> is 20 years ago this summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this month
>> since I found out about CS!!! CS literally saved my life.
>>
> Thanks so much,
>  Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very
> different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with
> CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the course of
> each day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for over two
> years, and never becoming pain free, not even close.. proves I do
> not have LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel chronic EBV
> improved, but not joint pains.
> rats!
> sol
>
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[sol]

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Hi, Sol, 
  Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup, total. 
I don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt, is 
about 18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and 
even put my pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees. 
Took about 6 months for everything to heal that could. I`m still 
disabled due to the brain damage, but at least I`m in no pain and can 
get along pretty well. 
It is 20 years ago this summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago 
this month since I found out about CS!!! CS literally saved my life.

Thanks so much,
  Lyme keeps turning up as a possibility for me, but unless I am very 
different from you, and from others who have gotten rid of Lyme with 
CS- then perhaps my experience drinking over the course 
of each day between a pint and a quart of my CS (about 10-15 uS) for 
over two years, and never becoming pain free, not even close.. 
proves I do not have LymeI did get rid of candida, and also feel 
chronic EBV improved, but not joint pains.

rats!
sol


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Sol,
  Well, I took 3 big swallows a day, which was at least a cup, total. I
don`t know what the PPM was. (The stuff I make now, without salt, is about
18 PPM.) On the 3rd day I could shut my jaw all the way, and even put my
pants on without crying in pain from bending my knees.
Took about 6 months for everything to heal that could. I`m still disabled
due to the brain damage, but at least I`m in no pain and can get along
pretty well.
It is 20 years ago this summer since I was bitten, and 14 years ago this
month since I found out about CS!!! CS literally saved my life.
Marshalee

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:19 AM, sol  wrote:

> Marshalee Hallett wrote:
>
>> Hi! No, just the Lyme. I took CS my son made for me with the 3-battery
>> gadget, made according to Mark Metcalf`s directions, which included salt. I
>> still make my own CS today, but no salt.
>> I lost my gallbladder and have permanent brain damage from the Lyme, but
>> am pretty darn good compared to how I was before the CS!
>>
> Marshalee,
>  Nice to see you! Could you pls post again the approx ppm of the CS you
> took, how much per "dose" and how often you drank it? Also, how long it took
> to see results with the Lyme?
> thanks very much,
>
> sol
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[sol]

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
Hi! 
No, just the Lyme. I took CS my son made for me with the 3-battery 
gadget, made according to Mark Metcalf`s directions, which included 
salt. I still make my own CS today, but no salt.
I lost my gallbladder and have permanent brain damage from the Lyme, 
but am pretty darn good compared to how I was before the CS!

Marshalee,
 Nice to see you! Could you pls post again the approx ppm of the CS you 
took, how much per "dose" and how often you drank it? Also, how long it 
took to see results with the Lyme?

thanks very much,
sol


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi!
No, just the Lyme. I took CS my son made for me with the 3-battery gadget,
made according to Mark Metcalf`s directions, which included salt. I still
make my own CS today, but no salt.
I lost my gallbladder and have permanent brain damage from the Lyme, but am
pretty darn good compared to how I was before the CS!
Marshalee

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Paul Steel  wrote:

> Marshalee
>
> Did u have any co-infections?
>
> What kind of cs did u take
>
> Thanks Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 13, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Marshalee Hallett 
> wrote:
>
>  Well, I dunno, I had Lyme for 6 years before I found out about CS. Guess
> what? it cured it.
> Marshalee
>
>
>>

RE: CS>Lyme disease

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From: Jason  
Date: 5/13/2010 11:08:08 AM
To: To post @ Silverlist  
Subject: CS>Lyme disease
 
Hello all,a good friend of mind has contracted Lyme disease about a year
ago working in the field up in Maryland last summer.I do believe I have
read in this forum that Lyme disease has been treated successfully with
CS.Is that also mean totally cured from it? Are there any posts from the
past that give specifics on treatment with CS? Thank you for any help
you can give!
Jason-  

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[bodhisattva]

I just wanted to say, it is "Lyme" not "Lymes" so people don't get confused.

Smitty wrote:

Hello all,a good friend of mind has contracted Lyme disease
Are there any posts from the past that give specifics on treatment . . .
Thank you for any help you can give .
Jason



You might go to the Miracle Mineral Supplement yahoo group
and put Lymes in the search block.
I believe MMS is better than CS for your friend's condition.
Just a thought.
Smitty

  

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Smitty]

> Hello all,a good friend of mind has contracted Lyme disease
> Are there any posts from the past that give specifics on treatment . . .
>Thank you for any help you can give .
>Jason

You might go to the Miracle Mineral Supplement yahoo group
and put Lymes in the search block.
I believe MMS is better than CS for your friend's condition.
Just a thought.
Smitty


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Paul Steel]

Marshalee

Did u have any co-infections?

What kind of cs did u take

Thanks Paul 

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On May 13, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Marshalee Hallett  wrote:

 Well, I dunno, I had Lyme for 6 years before I found out about CS. Guess what? 
it cured it.
Marshalee

Re: CS>Lyme disease

[Marshalee Hallett]

 Well, I dunno, I had Lyme for 6 years before I found out about CS. Guess
what? it cured it.
Marshalee


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Re: CS>Lyme disease

[sms]

Hi Jason,
Sorry about your friend.  Unfortunately, if your friend has had Lyme Disease
for a year, the disease would now be considered Chronic-long-term.  While CS
would be of tremendous help, it more than likely would not be able to
eliminate Lyme completely.  It takes other avenues to attack and kill the
spirochetes now as they rapidly reproduce and take various forms to hide
from the immune system and anti-biotics.  But, there is hope.  

Along with taking CS on a regular basis, your friend can add a well know
Lyme elimination protocol known as Salt/C. Here is the link to
Lymestrategies.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lymestrategies/  
There your friend will find details about the Protocol, remedies to aid lyme
symptoms, information on cleanses and detoxes required for added support;
files and links, but most of all members willing to share what works and
what doesn't in support of one another.  

Another excellent and highly recommended companion group for your friend to
join whose members also use CS is: http://health.groups.yahoo
com/group/Lyme_and_Rife/The members in this group are experienced and
well educated in terms of most all elements having to do with Lyme.  They
have years of experience and a ton of knowledge.  All the best to your
friend. You are a great friend for helping.
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From: Jason
Date: 5/13/2010 11:08:08 AM
To: To post @ Silverlist
Subject: CS>Lyme disease
 
Hello all,a good friend of mind has contracted Lyme disease about a year ago
working in the field up in Maryland last summer.I do believe I have read in
this forum that Lyme disease has been treated successfully with CS.Is that
also mean totally cured from it? Are there any posts from the past that give
specifics on treatment with CS? Thank you for any help you can give!
Jason-