Re: A Question Or Two
Yes, you are correct - it's Windows 8.1, thanks for the suggestions. On 2/28/2020 7:08 AM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote: When you said "8.4" you really meant Windows 8.1, which was the last one before Windows 10. If you meant Window-Eyes 8.4, it is not going to work on Windows 10 at all. You should be running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 if possible. For installing Windows 10, if it is an older version, you can get Narrator started with Windows-Enter. For the versions of the last couple of years, you can start Narrator with ctrl-Windows-Enter. When I did an install back in 2015, the disability answer desk didn't exist. But I put an AM radio near the computer to get a sense of whether there was disk activity, the processor was waiting for input, etc. This helped a little. Also, Aira or BeMyEyes might be helpful during the setup process. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:29 PM To: Loy Green via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: A Question Or Two Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later. On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archi
Re: A Question Or Two
When you said "8.4" you really meant Windows 8.1, which was the last one before Windows 10. If you meant Window-Eyes 8.4, it is not going to work on Windows 10 at all. You should be running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 if possible. For installing Windows 10, if it is an older version, you can get Narrator started with Windows-Enter. For the versions of the last couple of years, you can start Narrator with ctrl-Windows-Enter. When I did an install back in 2015, the disability answer desk didn't exist. But I put an AM radio near the computer to get a sense of whether there was disk activity, the processor was waiting for input, etc. This helped a little. Also, Aira or BeMyEyes might be helpful during the setup process. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:29 PM To: Loy Green via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: A Question Or Two Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later. On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
matters not which you download, but be assured that windows ten is a lot easier than people believe it is. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 10:55 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: It's interesting how experiences vary. I found 8.1 & WE to work well together. Do you think I should download Jaws before or after I download Windows 10? On 2/28/2020 1:25 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it ever did with 8.1 for 8.1 didn't have any start menu. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
It's interesting how experiences vary. I found 8.1 & WE to work well together. Do you think I should download Jaws before or after I download Windows 10? On 2/28/2020 1:25 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it ever did with 8.1 for 8.1 didn't have any start menu. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
window-eyes actually worked and works better with windows ten than it ever did with 8.1 for 8.1 didn't have any start menu. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 2/27/2020 6:42 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
Thanks. I guess I should take the plunge sooner than later. On 2/27/2020 10:15 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A Question Or Two
I was a long time user of Window Eyes, WE 9.5.4 will somewhat work with Win10. But no earlier versions of WE. I got JAWS free when WE was sold. I started using JAWS then and kept WE and would use it sometimes.WE actually works best on a few sites even now, but not well on others. There is also a good free screen reader NVDA. I keep all three screen readers installed but mostly use JAWS now. Going from 8.4 to 10 should not be hard to learn. Microsoft disability probably would help you or you can down load the Windows Upgrade assistant and do it yourself. Original Message - From: "Nick Sarames via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Nick Sarames" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:42 PM Subject: A Question Or Two So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
A Question Or Two
So I'm still procrastinating. I'm currently using the latest Window--eyes and the that precedes Windows 10 (maybe it's Windows 8.4?). If I knew for certain that WE is reasonably compatible with Windows 10 but my concern is that WE won't work at all. I guess my question is, is it more difficult to learn Jaws or Windows 10? Should I download Jaws before worrying about Windows 10? I really don't do much more than surfing and e-mailing, and the occasional ordering of food and miscellaneous products. Also, is it possible for the Michrosoft Disabilities desk to install Windows 10 using remote assist, and if so, would you recommend it? If you would prefer e-mailing me privately, feel free. nicksara...@msn.com Thanks in advance. Nick Sarames ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question about WE and keyboards
Hi Bob, Control+Alt+W starts Window-Eyes. Control+Numpad insert+F4 closes it. You can also open the control panel with Control+Backslash and then Alt+F4. I've heard of those roll up keyboards, but I've never seen one. I'm sorry to hear about the stroke. God speed, Tom On 1/6/2020 2:35 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Been using Jaws and forgot how to start and stop Window-eyes. Can someone tell me? Had a stroke a couple years ago and can only type with one hand. Cannot use the flat keyboard on the laptop. Using external KB. When I travel, I carry laptop in back pack but have to put KB in suitcase buried between clothes to protect from getting damaged. I have heard of roll up keyboards, possibly made out of some sort of rubber. Or foldable keyboards. Anyone use one of these type of KBs? And if so, what is your opinion. Best -Bob Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Question about WE and keyboards
Been using Jaws and forgot how to start and stop Window-eyes. Can someone tell me? Had a stroke a couple years ago and can only type with one hand. Cannot use the flat keyboard on the laptop. Using external KB. When I travel, I carry laptop in back pack but have to put KB in suitcase buried between clothes to protect from getting damaged. I have heard of roll up keyboards, possibly made out of some sort of rubber. Or foldable keyboards. Anyone use one of these type of KBs? And if so, what is your opinion. Best -Bob Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
OT Question about iPhones
Anyone using new or almost new iPhone? I am thinking about getting one. Contact me off list. r...@ringwald.com -Bob Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
Thanks for the info. I'll try to get subscribed again. I'll just copy and paste the link below. Aren't you the one who is diabetic? I remember having an exchange of emails with you some years ago. If so, I am wondering if you are using the new system for measuring your blood sugar? You evidently use a smart phone or another device and don't have to prick your finger. Best, Bob Ringwald r...@ringwald.com -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 7:02 PM To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: OT - Question For Ham Operators If a mailing list is on groups.io, you do not need to put anything in the subject header. The address is usually something like this: listaddress+subscr...@groups.io Some lists may have a dash (hyphen) as part of its addressing scheme. It's important to pay attention to such a symbol when typing the list address otherwise your subscription won't get delivered. Here's the subscription address Mr. Rasmussen provided: blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io There is a dash as part of the address; however, don't worry much about retyping the address. Just whack on the above address and, if you using Outlook, Alt+S to Send! Good luck. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: OT - Question For Ham Operators
If a mailing list is on groups.io, you do not need to put anything in the subject header. The address is usually something like this: listaddress+subscr...@groups.io Some lists may have a dash (hyphen) as part of its addressing scheme. It's important to pay attention to such a symbol when typing the list address otherwise your subscription won't get delivered. Here's the subscription address Mr. Rasmussen provided: blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io There is a dash as part of the address; however, don't worry much about retyping the address. Just whack on the above address and, if you using Outlook, Alt+S to Send! Good luck. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
Hi there! Never can remember which goes where, so I put the word subscribe in both the subject as well as the body of the message and it generally works for me. Good Luck and Have A Good 1! de . On 17-Nov-19 12:08, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: I keep trying to subscribe but I get no response. Am I supposed to put the word subscribe in the subject line or in the text? Am I supposed to take out the tag in my text? -Bob Ringwald K6YBV -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 12:51 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators There are more than 300 people on the blind-hams listserv on groups.io. This list goes back to the mid-90's, when it was on stjohns.edu, then on icors.org. The moderator, K8SP, has to approve the first message you post to the list; after that you can post without being moderated. We discuss all sorts of things: VHF, HF, contesting, learning CW, digital mobile radio, nostalgia, etc. To subscribe, go to blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io And I use Window-Eyes to do a lot of contest logging. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 11:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: OT - Question For Ham Operators Any hams using remotehams program? Is there an email list for blind hams? Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to r...@ringwald.com Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com Go Dodgers! Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
I keep trying to subscribe but I get no response. Am I supposed to put the word subscribe in the subject line or in the text? Am I supposed to take out the tag in my text? -Bob Ringwald K6YBV -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 12:51 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators There are more than 300 people on the blind-hams listserv on groups.io. This list goes back to the mid-90's, when it was on stjohns.edu, then on icors.org. The moderator, K8SP, has to approve the first message you post to the list; after that you can post without being moderated. We discuss all sorts of things: VHF, HF, contesting, learning CW, digital mobile radio, nostalgia, etc. To subscribe, go to blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io And I use Window-Eyes to do a lot of contest logging. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 11:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: OT - Question For Ham Operators Any hams using remotehams program? Is there an email list for blind hams? Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to r...@ringwald.com Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com Go Dodgers! Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Set file question
Thanks, Soon as I knew to look in the .we files, I found it in no time. Was in the Explorer.we, this time. Problem solved. Funny how easy, once you know what to look for, and where. Smiles. you David On 10/26/2019 6:41 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi David, > > The solution is to look for a file in you’re profiles folder and rename or > delete it. > You access your profiles folder by opening the WE control panel using > Ctrl-backslash. > Then, press alt-f for File, and press E for Explore profiles folder. > This opens a normal folder containing all the settings files for your current > installation of WE. > If I want to unassociate a set file from one of my programs, I would look for > a file starting with the name of the program, followed by the extension .WE. > For example, I made a set file called LOOPREC.SET, and so there is a file > called LOOPREC.WE in my profiles folder. > If I don't want Window-Eyes to load LOOPREC.SET anymore when I open my > LOOPREC program, I would rename LOOPREC.WE to something like LOOPREC.WE.txt. > When you rename it, Window-Eyes simply loads default.set instead. > In your case, there must be some window association occurring on your system, > such that Window-Eyes is looking for the set file. > By renaming the .WE file as I have suggested, Window-Eyes will simply load > default.set instead, which always exists. > > I hope this helps, > > Rod/. > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On > Behalf Of David via Talk > Sent: October 26, 2019 11:20 AM > To: WE English Mailinglist > Cc: David > Subject: Set file question > > Listers, > > A bit techie this one. > > > I had a software installed on my computer, and had a set file for that > specific piece of software. That is, the set file was named something like > MySoftware.set. > > > A while ago, I deleted that set file, for different reasons. Now, my screen > reader keeps reminding me, that: > > The following file is missing: MySoftware.set. > > Good enough, of course it is missing, and no longer valid, since I have > removed it from my computer, and likewise the software it was linked with. > > > My big question here is, if any of you would happen to know, in which > set, ini or WE file (or whatever other file) on my computer this linking > is stored. I mean, somewhere the screen reader apparently stores the > link between which program should load which set file. And if I knew > what file to edit, perhaps I could get rid of that silly reminder. Just > not sure, which file holds the list of what set file is linked with what > software. So if you could help me out, I would be greatly thankful. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Set file question
Hi David, The solution is to look for a file in you’re profiles folder and rename or delete it. You access your profiles folder by opening the WE control panel using Ctrl-backslash. Then, press alt-f for File, and press E for Explore profiles folder. This opens a normal folder containing all the settings files for your current installation of WE. If I want to unassociate a set file from one of my programs, I would look for a file starting with the name of the program, followed by the extension .WE. For example, I made a set file called LOOPREC.SET, and so there is a file called LOOPREC.WE in my profiles folder. If I don't want Window-Eyes to load LOOPREC.SET anymore when I open my LOOPREC program, I would rename LOOPREC.WE to something like LOOPREC.WE.txt. When you rename it, Window-Eyes simply loads default.set instead. In your case, there must be some window association occurring on your system, such that Window-Eyes is looking for the set file. By renaming the .WE file as I have suggested, Window-Eyes will simply load default.set instead, which always exists. I hope this helps, Rod/. Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: October 26, 2019 11:20 AM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Set file question Listers, A bit techie this one. I had a software installed on my computer, and had a set file for that specific piece of software. That is, the set file was named something like MySoftware.set. A while ago, I deleted that set file, for different reasons. Now, my screen reader keeps reminding me, that: The following file is missing: MySoftware.set. Good enough, of course it is missing, and no longer valid, since I have removed it from my computer, and likewise the software it was linked with. My big question here is, if any of you would happen to know, in which set, ini or WE file (or whatever other file) on my computer this linking is stored. I mean, somewhere the screen reader apparently stores the link between which program should load which set file. And if I knew what file to edit, perhaps I could get rid of that silly reminder. Just not sure, which file holds the list of what set file is linked with what software. So if you could help me out, I would be greatly thankful. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Set file question
Listers, A bit techie this one. I had a software installed on my computer, and had a set file for that specific piece of software. That is, the set file was named something like MySoftware.set. A while ago, I deleted that set file, for different reasons. Now, my screen reader keeps reminding me, that: The following file is missing: MySoftware.set. Good enough, of course it is missing, and no longer valid, since I have removed it from my computer, and likewise the software it was linked with. My big question here is, if any of you would happen to know, in which set, ini or WE file (or whatever other file) on my computer this linking is stored. I mean, somewhere the screen reader apparently stores the link between which program should load which set file. And if I knew what file to edit, perhaps I could get rid of that silly reminder. Just not sure, which file holds the list of what set file is linked with what software. So if you could help me out, I would be greatly thankful. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
Lloyd, sent email per your instructions below. Have not gotten a response. Am I supposed to put something in the subject or text? -Bob K6YBV r...@ringwald.com -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 12:51 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators There are more than 300 people on the blind-hams listserv on groups.io. This list goes back to the mid-90's, when it was on stjohns.edu, then on icors.org. The moderator, K8SP, has to approve the first message you post to the list; after that you can post without being moderated. We discuss all sorts of things: VHF, HF, contesting, learning CW, digital mobile radio, nostalgia, etc. To subscribe, go to blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io And I use Window-Eyes to do a lot of contest logging. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 11:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: OT - Question For Ham Operators Any hams using remotehams program? Is there an email list for blind hams? Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to r...@ringwald.com Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com Go Dodgers! Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
Thanks Lloyd. I'm in Alaska. Flying home tomorrow and will subscribe. Bob Ringwald K6YBV -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 12:51 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators There are more than 300 people on the blind-hams listserv on groups.io. This list goes back to the mid-90's, when it was on stjohns.edu, then on icors.org. The moderator, K8SP, has to approve the first message you post to the list; after that you can post without being moderated. We discuss all sorts of things: VHF, HF, contesting, learning CW, digital mobile radio, nostalgia, etc. To subscribe, go to blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io And I use Window-Eyes to do a lot of contest logging. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 11:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: OT - Question For Ham Operators Any hams using remotehams program? Is there an email list for blind hams? Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to r...@ringwald.com Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com Go Dodgers! Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
There are more than 300 people on the blind-hams listserv on groups.io. This list goes back to the mid-90's, when it was on stjohns.edu, then on icors.org. The moderator, K8SP, has to approve the first message you post to the list; after that you can post without being moderated. We discuss all sorts of things: VHF, HF, contesting, learning CW, digital mobile radio, nostalgia, etc. To subscribe, go to blind-hams+subscr...@groups.io And I use Window-Eyes to do a lot of contest logging. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 11:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: OT - Question For Ham Operators Any hams using remotehams program? Is there an email list for blind hams? Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to r...@ringwald.com Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com Go Dodgers! Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: OT - Question For Ham Operators
Remotehams seems not to be accessible. there is a groups.io list for blindhams. On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:16:22 -0400, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: > > Any hams using remotehams program? > > Is there an email list for blind hams? > > Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to > r...@ringwald.com > > > Bob Ringwald > Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV > www.ringwald.com > Go Dodgers! > > Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have > preferred. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
OT - Question For Ham Operators
Any hams using remotehams program? Is there an email list for blind hams? Since this is not a Window-eyes question, please answer off list to r...@ringwald.com Bob Ringwald Amateur (ham) radio station K6YBV www.ringwald.com Go Dodgers! Marriage is the process of finding out what kind of man your wife would have preferred. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: MS Office question
Olusegun, I went on eBay last night and typed in "Office 2016 Professional", which is what I had done previously. I did not see the exact same link that I had used to purchase mine, but did see several others. I looked for one with a higher rating. The seller name on my receipt is "sansell88", but entering that into the search bar yielded no results, so I'm not sure if I can find the link that way. As I noted earlier, I was a bit chicken about doing this; I don't want to think I've bought a pirate version. I got a email from the seller with the product key. At first the key did not work, but I had instructions on how to call in to authorize my copy. I did have some gymnastics with JAWS and using JAWS history to access the product ID number that I needed to enter. Then I got this really, really long ID code back from Microsoft. After entering it, my copy of Office is up and running. Robin -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:28 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: MS Office question Yes, Robin, the BeMyEyes works everywhere where there's enough data to hit the Internet. It's a great app, only works on a smart toy though. Could you please possibly post the eBay link you used for grabbing a copy of Office? Thanks a ton if you can! Yes, Rod, a call to Microsoft Accessibility should be free because of the 800-number. However, there are countries that DO NOT have TOLL-FREE numbers. In that wise, I'm not even sure if their calls would get through unless something else has changed. I think there shouldn't be any problems with calls originating from the U.K., Australia the Caribbeans, and parts of Mexico. Sorry, I excluded Canada because the phone system there is pretty much the same with that of the United States. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:dnereque...@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: MS Office question
Hello David, As far as I know, any home or professional (which I presume would include Business) version of Ms Office from 2007 onwards should entitle you to Window-Eyes freed version. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. However, make sure that your Ms Office is properly registered. My computer technician did the registration for me so I can't tell you the steps. Good luck. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 4:34 AM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: MS Office question Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: MS Office question
Yes, Robin, the BeMyEyes works everywhere where there's enough data to hit the Internet. It's a great app, only works on a smart toy though. Could you please possibly post the eBay link you used for grabbing a copy of Office? Thanks a ton if you can! Yes, Rod, a call to Microsoft Accessibility should be free because of the 800-number. However, there are countries that DO NOT have TOLL-FREE numbers. In that wise, I'm not even sure if their calls would get through unless something else has changed. I think there shouldn't be any problems with calls originating from the U.K., Australia the Caribbeans, and parts of Mexico. Sorry, I excluded Canada because the phone system there is pretty much the same with that of the United States. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Robin, I'm just going to offer my two cents worth here regarding student or academic Office licenses. My wife years ago paid a minimum fee to get an academic license, as she was an instructor at a local college. Frankly, she got a license for my benefit, so that I could use WE for Office when cash was running low. The long and the short of this is simply that you might want to be careful about purchasing these types of licenses, because they do definitely expire. Mine did, and you can guess what happened. If not, I'll tell ya. From that moment on I could no longer make use of WE for Office. I don't believe that you are able to renew these licenses, though I could be wrong. Unfortunately, when my wife installed the copy to my computer, she chose to run the program rather than saving it, and we lost all of the registration information. But I really don't think that after about two or three years, that the license could be renewed. I am saying all this knowing that I could possibly be wrong, but just thought you and others should keep that in mind. If anybody else knows better, than feel free to take me to the woodshed . On 7/1/2019 11:15 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: David, I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for 10 US dollars. I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010. The Home and Student one is technically for students, despite the name. I'm not sure what the Home and Business one is. When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license of Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option. As a home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is the Office Professional Plus. So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus. This gives me a license for one computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive. I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the accessibility of Window Eyes and Office 2016. However, if you think about it, Office 2016 was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would think it would work. I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much different it might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really inexpensive. I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it has issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another cheap copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013. Better to get the most recent copy of Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught up as possible. Robin Van Lant, Robin -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: MS Office question Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: MS Office question
Also, if you have a smart phone, you can download the Be My Eyes app and use that to get direct access to the Microsoft Accessibility line. I just used Be My Eyes for the first time a month ago, so I haven't used this to call Microsoft, but think this is a good way to go. Not sure of the restrictions, if any for those outside the U.S. Anyone can use the app, but I'm not sure off hand if the Microsoft contact option works outside the U.S. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 5:58 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: MS Office question Hi David, I won't trumpet too loudly my firm belief that Office 365 is the best way to go, and this is because Microsoft is improving the accessibility of Office at the same time that they are adding features. The price of an ongoing single-user subscription is $6.99 per month and you get two months for free if you subscribe annually. As for contacting the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, the only issue I can see is that you have to be able to deal with the long-distance cost involved in calling the U.S. telephone number, which is 800-936-5900. You could do a Skype out call and contact them that way. Now, once you reach the line and get a human being, I cannot think of any reason why they would hang up on you just because you are outside North America. I live in Canada, and they have never had an issue with my calling them. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: June 30, 2019 4:34 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: MS Office question Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not t
RE: MS Office question
Hi Robin, Perhaps I'm sounding like a broken record, but I am running WE 9.5.4 with Office 365, namely, the current version of Office, and am having no noticeable accessibility issues. I use Outlook, Word, and Excel, regularly. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: July 1, 2019 12:16 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Van Lant, Robin Subject: RE: MS Office question David, I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for 10 US dollars. I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010. The Home and Student one is technically for students, despite the name. I'm not sure what the Home and Business one is. When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license of Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option. As a home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is the Office Professional Plus. So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus. This gives me a license for one computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive. I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the accessibility of Window Eyes and Office 2016. However, if you think about it, Office 2016 was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would think it would work. I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much different it might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really inexpensive. I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it has issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another cheap copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013. Better to get the most recent copy of Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught up as possible. Robin Van Lant, Robin -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: MS Office question Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you
Re: MS Office question
I understand spellcheck will not work in office 2016 with we.— latest version Richard Petty Dictated to and sent from my iPhone Please excuse dictation errors > On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk > wrote: > > David, > I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for 10 US dollars. > I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010. The Home and Student one is > technically for students, despite the name. I'm not sure what the Home and > Business one is. When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license > of Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option. > As a home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is > the Office Professional Plus. So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I > purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus. This gives me a license for one > computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including > Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive. > > I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the > accessibility of Window Eyes and Office 2016. However, if you think about > it, Office 2016 was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would > think it would work. I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much > different it might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. > > Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really > inexpensive. I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay > before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it > has issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another > cheap copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013. Better to get the most recent copy > of Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught > up as possible. > > > Robin Van Lant, Robin > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On > Behalf Of David via Talk > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM > To: WE English Mailinglist > Cc: David > Subject: MS Office question > > Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? > > > I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a > few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for > unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. > > > One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am > neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, > will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should > look out for? > > > They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for > that version, or maybe they have already done so? > > > Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone > happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess > NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes > functionality. > > > Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really > don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know > what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft > decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have > to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. > > > Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And > please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression > the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am > mistaken, I'd be glad to know. > > > -- > David > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It > is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended > recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing > or using any of this information. If you received this communication in > error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its > entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication ma
RE: MS Office question
David, I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for 10 US dollars. I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010. The Home and Student one is technically for students, despite the name. I'm not sure what the Home and Business one is. When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license of Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option. As a home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is the Office Professional Plus. So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus. This gives me a license for one computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive. I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the accessibility of Window Eyes and Office 2016. However, if you think about it, Office 2016 was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would think it would work. I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much different it might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really inexpensive. I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it has issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another cheap copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013. Better to get the most recent copy of Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught up as possible. Robin Van Lant, Robin -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: MS Office question Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:dnereque...@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership opti
Re: MS Office question
Hi Rod, I assume all it means is that there will be no more bug fixes or security updates. Regards, Tom On 7/1/2019 8:03 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Forgive the nit-picking, but does this not simply mean that you won't be able to ask Microsoft any support questions about it, rather than saying that it will no longer run on Windows 10? Humbly (smile), Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: July 1, 2019 7:59 AM To: David via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: MS Office question David, I doubt very much that those copies of Office 2010 are legal. And with a quick search I just found a statement from Microsoft that all support for 2010 will end next year. I have Office 365. I'm still running 2016 because it hasn't updated yet. The only problem I have with Window-Eyes is with the spell checker. I began scripting a fix, but it works so well with NVDA I just go that route with Office. Good luck, Tom On 6/30/2019 4:34 PM, David via Talk wrote: Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: MS Office question
Hi Tom, Forgive the nit-picking, but does this not simply mean that you won't be able to ask Microsoft any support questions about it, rather than saying that it will no longer run on Windows 10? Humbly (smile), Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: July 1, 2019 7:59 AM To: David via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: MS Office question David, I doubt very much that those copies of Office 2010 are legal. And with a quick search I just found a statement from Microsoft that all support for 2010 will end next year. I have Office 365. I'm still running 2016 because it hasn't updated yet. The only problem I have with Window-Eyes is with the spell checker. I began scripting a fix, but it works so well with NVDA I just go that route with Office. Good luck, Tom On 6/30/2019 4:34 PM, David via Talk wrote: > Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? > > > I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might > save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some > offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused > about their titles. > > > One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I > am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states > Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version > that I should look out for? > > > They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end > support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? > > > Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would > someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with > WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose > WinEyes functionality. > > > Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I > really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and > you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - > Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are > lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. > > > Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. > And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the > impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for > me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: MS Office question
David, I doubt very much that those copies of Office 2010 are legal. And with a quick search I just found a statement from Microsoft that all support for 2010 will end next year. I have Office 365. I'm still running 2016 because it hasn't updated yet. The only problem I have with Window-Eyes is with the spell checker. I began scripting a fix, but it works so well with NVDA I just go that route with Office. Good luck, Tom On 6/30/2019 4:34 PM, David via Talk wrote: Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: MS Office question
Hi David, I won't trumpet too loudly my firm belief that Office 365 is the best way to go, and this is because Microsoft is improving the accessibility of Office at the same time that they are adding features. The price of an ongoing single-user subscription is $6.99 per month and you get two months for free if you subscribe annually. As for contacting the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, the only issue I can see is that you have to be able to deal with the long-distance cost involved in calling the U.S. telephone number, which is 800-936-5900. You could do a Skype out call and contact them that way. Now, once you reach the line and get a human being, I cannot think of any reason why they would hang up on you just because you are outside North America. I live in Canada, and they have never had an issue with my calling them. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: June 30, 2019 4:34 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: MS Office question Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
MS Office question
Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules? I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles. One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look out for? They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for that version, or maybe they have already done so? Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality. Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features. Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know. -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: virtual viewer question
Hi Carol, The easiest fix is to find the Virtual View installer package in your zip archive of the Window-Eyes apps (which I'm sure you have, smile) and simply have your brother reinstall it right overtop whatever he has installed or not installed on his machine. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: June 1, 2019 11:30 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: virtual viewer question Hi Group, I am not certain I am using the correct name for the app, but it is the one where one presses ctrl-alt-v to enable. My brother is the administrator for his pc. His wife also has her own desktop and login. On her side, pressing ctrl-alt-v opens the little app that allows one to read the screen. It works properly. On my brother's side, when he presses the keystrokes, he gets absolutely nothing. Can anyone give me suggestions for him to try? Thanks. His did work, but does not work today. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8f9f865f4c647fa211e08d6e6a5f727%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636949997816390314&sdata=71DM9hysmn4Y2n620mkfCq%2B0d3NPXk7qsayCrSEqnck%3D&reserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8f9f865f4c647fa211e08d6e6a5f727%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636949997816390314&sdata=%2BRWVpj%2FoWo6EvVxAhPwnLWU6UkeIkXjD%2BQvDBgWSLSM%3D&reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce8f9f865f4c647fa211e08d6e6a5f727%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636949997816390314&sdata=KjFKsuJgZVsiT7Ky3w1mn%2BKvorPGRTh308wC46ixGgk%3D&reserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
virtual viewer question
Hi Group, I am not certain I am using the correct name for the app, but it is the one where one presses ctrl-alt-v to enable. My brother is the administrator for his pc. His wife also has her own desktop and login. On her side, pressing ctrl-alt-v opens the little app that allows one to read the screen. It works properly. On my brother's side, when he presses the keystrokes, he gets absolutely nothing. Can anyone give me suggestions for him to try? Thanks. His did work, but does not work today. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Question About a Jaws List
What is the best list to get help with Jaws? -Bob Ringwald WE user since 3.1 What is the best list to join to get help with Jaws? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
try this: http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mpa/index.jsp you'll find the log in and put it in, making sure you have your login correct. Curtis Delzer HS W B 6 H E F Rialto, CA On 4/8/2019 8:25 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Running Windows 10 Latest Window-Eyes or latest Jaws IE I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in. Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in. I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a new hard drive and can't find that URL. -Bob -Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: john schwery Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
Robert, try this URL: mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/?affiliateId=MLBMENUGDA At 11:25 AM 4/8/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: Running Windows 10 Latest Window-Eyes or latest Jaws IE I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in. Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in. I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a new hard drive and can't find that URL. -Bob -Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: john schwery Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: >I canât find the games to listen to. W. What a confusing site. >__ _ Any views or opinions >presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not >necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/t alk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. > For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/ talk-window-eyes.com List >archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk -window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
I don't like their new page either. Try going to mlb.com/mediacenter 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: I don't use the site. But part of the problem is probably using IE. Many sites don't support it any more. Development ended years ago and it's a security risk. On 4/8/2019 11:25 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Running Windows 10 Latest Window-Eyes or latest Jaws IE I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in. Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in. I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a new hard drive and can't find that URL. -Bob -Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: john schwery Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: > I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. > ___ Any views or opinions > presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List > archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
I don't use the site. But part of the problem is probably using IE. Many sites don't support it any more. Development ended years ago and it's a security risk. On 4/8/2019 11:25 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Running Windows 10 Latest Window-Eyes or latest Jaws IE I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in. Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in. I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a new hard drive and can't find that URL. -Bob -Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: john schwery Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
Running Windows 10 Latest Window-Eyes or latest Jaws IE I have a heck of a time finding the place to log in. Always before, for several years, I didn't have to log in. I'd bring up mlb.com. Then I'd put in a URL that someone gave me. I have a new hard drive and can't find that URL. -Bob -Original Message- From: john schwery via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 3:45 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: john schwery Subject: Re: Question ABout mlb.com Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
It is a strange page for sure. It won't work with explorer in seven, I use firefox and n v d a. I may have to try Chrome. Once the player comes up after you log in, you have to hit the play button or can just hit space bar to turn audio on. Not one of their best efforts, but they really don't seem to care. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, john schwery via Talk wrote: Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: I canât find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question ABout mlb.com
Robert, what browser and OS are you using? I'm running Win 7, Chrome and WE 9. I can access the games fine. At 03:04 PM 4/6/2019, Robert Ringwald via Talk, wrote: I canât find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Question ABout mlb.com
I can’t find the games to listen to. What a confusing site. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Tom, I really liked your message. So far, I haven't had the staging issue for a couple of days. Of course, I haven't been on the computer much, either, grin. Take care. Carol On 4/3/2019 6:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: The plot thickens. The theme to the Pink Panther begins playing. And Inspector Clouseau is on the job. On 4/3/2019 4:11 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Yes, Window-Eyes is the only one that is reading it, but neither of the others will read anything if the foreground staging screen is open. Carol On 4/3/2019 9:12 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: The interesting thing about foreground staging, I haven't got that message since I stopped using window eyes. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:27 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: question about foreground staging Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out. Take care, Carol On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and
Re: question about foreground staging
The plot thickens. The theme to the Pink Panther begins playing. And Inspector Clouseau is on the job. On 4/3/2019 4:11 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Yes, Window-Eyes is the only one that is reading it, but neither of the others will read anything if the foreground staging screen is open. Carol On 4/3/2019 9:12 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: The interesting thing about foreground staging, I haven't got that message since I stopped using window eyes. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:27 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: question about foreground staging Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out. Take care, Carol On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the o
Re: question about foreground staging
Yes, Window-Eyes is the only one that is reading it, but neither of the others will read anything if the foreground staging screen is open. Carol On 4/3/2019 9:12 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: The interesting thing about foreground staging, I haven't got that message since I stopped using window eyes. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:27 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: question about foreground staging Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out. Take care, Carol On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, T
Re: question about foreground staging
Ah yes, it does show up spoken as a dialog box every now and then, but of course it has no content. You can bring up a context menu of sort by pressing the alt key, but if I remember correctly, it only has the options to move or to close, and the close option seems to do absolutely nothing. On 4/3/2019 8:24 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Larry, This is strange. 32770 is the class name for a standard Windows dialog, like those used within programs for opening files or a Save As dialog. I suspect the title bar hot key might give you this if a dialog pops up that has no title or name. I'll try to remember to check this if I can ever catch the foreground staging window. On 4/2/2019 7:35 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Tom, Don't know if this might give you a clew as to what is going on with foreground staging, but what might be an error code 32770 some times comes when pressing ctrl-shift-T rather than foreground staging being spoken. Sure hope this helps, because I am having the same problem at the moment. It comes and goes. And it sure does make tabbing from window to window a bit of a pain. On 4/2/2019 6:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 b
Re: question about foreground staging
Larry, This is strange. 32770 is the class name for a standard Windows dialog, like those used within programs for opening files or a Save As dialog. I suspect the title bar hot key might give you this if a dialog pops up that has no title or name. I'll try to remember to check this if I can ever catch the foreground staging window. On 4/2/2019 7:35 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Tom, Don't know if this might give you a clew as to what is going on with foreground staging, but what might be an error code 32770 some times comes when pressing ctrl-shift-T rather than foreground staging being spoken. Sure hope this helps, because I am having the same problem at the moment. It comes and goes. And it sure does make tabbing from window to window a bit of a pain. On 4/2/2019 6:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go
Re: question about foreground staging
The interesting thing about foreground staging, I haven't got that message since I stopped using window eyes. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 3:27 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: question about foreground staging Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out. Take care, Carol On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was th
Re: question about foreground staging
Tom, Don't know if this might give you a clew as to what is going on with foreground staging, but what might be an error code 32770 some times comes when pressing ctrl-shift-T rather than foreground staging being spoken. Sure hope this helps, because I am having the same problem at the moment. It comes and goes. And it sure does make tabbing from window to window a bit of a pain. On 4/2/2019 6:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for
Re: a Winamp question
Correct. I forgot to say that. The keys for JAWS work in the main window, too. -Original Message- From: Evan Reese via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 11:27 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Evan Reese Subject: Re: a Winamp question You don't have to be in the equalizer to use those panning keys. I just checked. You can use them in the main window as well. Evan -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 6:16 AM To: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: a Winamp question Donald, I think you misremembered the command. The command, or key combo is alt+shift+k. In order to pan from left to right, at least as far as I know, is to go to the equalizer using alt+g, then using your left and right arrow keys. That always works for me On 4/1/2019 10:24 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command for Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and left to right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command to pan? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mentat1%40dslextreme.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: question about foreground staging
Yeah, right, grimmace! At least it hasn't happend today, yet, grin. I appreciate your taking the time to see what you could figure out. Take care, Carol On 4/2/2019 7:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally sp
Re: question about foreground staging
Didn't you know? Windows 10 is the perfect Windows. That's why Microsoft says it's the last new version of Windows. We will forever be on Windows 10. Hahaahaaha! On 4/2/2019 7:42 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Damn! I just took a look at Bookshare's listings for annoyances, and found no book regarding annoyances associated with Windows 10, only up to Windows 7. I guess there just weren't enough annoyances in Windows 10 to fill enough pages . On 4/2/2019 6:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I alrea
Re: a Winamp question
You don't have to be in the equalizer to use those panning keys. I just checked. You can use them in the main window as well. Evan -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 6:16 AM To: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: a Winamp question Donald, I think you misremembered the command. The command, or key combo is alt+shift+k. In order to pan from left to right, at least as far as I know, is to go to the equalizer using alt+g, then using your left and right arrow keys. That always works for me On 4/1/2019 10:24 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command for Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and left to right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command to pan? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mentat1%40dslextreme.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: a Winamp question
I just tried this. In Window-Eyes, the panning keys are Alt+Shift+K and the letters H through ;, with Alt=Shift+K being center. In JAWS, the keys are exactly the same, except you press Control+Shift+K in combination with the previously-mentioned letters. Hope this help s. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 10:24 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: a Winamp question A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command for Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and left to right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command to pan? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: question about foreground staging
Damn! I just took a look at Bookshare's listings for annoyances, and found no book regarding annoyances associated with Windows 10, only up to Windows 7. I guess there just weren't enough annoyances in Windows 10 to fill enough pages . On 4/2/2019 6:02 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by chan
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Carol, No problem. I like tracking down these annoyances and squashing them. It's strange how I rarely see it and it's a real problem for you. Oh the mysteries of computers. Aren't they wonderful. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 10:45 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want to read down throu
Re: a Winamp question
Donald, I think you misremembered the command. The command, or key combo is alt+shift+k. In order to pan from left to right, at least as far as I know, is to go to the equalizer using alt+g, then using your left and right arrow keys. That always works for me On 4/1/2019 10:24 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command for Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and left to right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command to pan? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
a Winamp question
A few days ago, I posted a message inquiring about making certain that when using Winamp I was completely in the center of the right and left stereo channels. I got a response suggesting I use control alt k to make sure I had things centered. When reflecting on this, I wondered if this wasn't a Jaws command rather than a command in a Window-eyes Winamp script. If in fact it is a Jaws command, is there a comparable command for Window-eyes? Additionally, I really want to pan right to left and left to right. How do I do this in Window-eyes? What is the Jaws command to pan? Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Tom, That is so nice of you to continue to follow through with this crazy anomaly. It does go away if I reboot and stays gone for a while. Closing WE does also help, but it does not stay gone as long as a restart. Anyway, I am learning to put up with it for the most part. The biggest problem is when I have more than two or three windows open at a time. Then, none of the windows speak when alt-tabbing and more likely than not, they do not speak when I land on them. Anyway, I will be through my moving soon enough and won't need to worry about it again, grin. Well, maybe not for a month or so. Thanks for trying to figure it out. Carol On 4/1/2019 9:58 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I have to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin. Carol On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foregrou
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Carol, That's strange. I've never had it pop up over a program window. As I said, for me it's always on the desktop. I thought it was after ejecting a drive. But I just tried that and got nothing. I never thought it had anything to do with Window-Eyes either. But I can't remember now if I've seen it with NVDA. And I don't know what "enhanced on" would be. Although it might be something in the Window-Eyes control panel. I assume you have it running in the system tray. That is to say, the Window-Eyes control panel isn't in the Alt+Tab order unless it's open. The reason I say this is because when a window is set to be in the tray it actually flashes open and is then minimized to the tray. All I can say is that the next time I see it I'll pop up the Window-Eyes scripting window and see if I can get the source of the foreground staging window. Maybe if I can figure out what it is I can write a script to stomp on it. Smile. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Regards, Tom On 4/1/2019 8:09 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I have to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin. Carol On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a thumb drive. All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if that's what you use. It's all I do. Hth, Tom On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Tom, Here is an update on the foreground staging issue. It came bacdk again today. The interesting thing was that I was in my f drive and inside the music folder. I clicked on a song to play and the foreground staging title bar was there, but again, there was nothing showing on the screen. There are a couple of interesting items here to report. The screen was my Winamp screen, although it would not say anything. I could navigate through the track I was playing with my arrow keys, which confirmed what the screen was. The other interesting thing was that I closed WE and reopened it. Although I was not on the desktop when I closed WE, that is where I landed. After telling me where I was, WE voiced something that said "enhanced on." This has only happened a few times and seems to be in the same time period as the foreground staging issue. Today, at least, the foreground staging window will go away for a while if I restart WE. Carol On 3/31/2019 9:52 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I have to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin. Carol On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a thumb drive. All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if that's what you use. It's all I do. Hth, Tom On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up again. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.windo
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi carol, I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer. I've never had a real problem with the foreground staging window. As I said, when I get it, I just hit Windows+D and go back to what I was doing. It's gone and doesn't come back. I don't even remember exactly when it comes up. It's not when I connect a drive. The drive just pops up in explorer and I paste what I've already cut or copied from another drive. I think it might come up when I eject the external drive. And again, I just Windows+D and it's gone. I suspect the reason the guy from Microsoft didn't know anything is that the window is probably invisible. I saw this problem with MalwareBytes and notified them. The problem is that they're just shrinking the window down to 0 by 0 pixels instead of using the proper hide method. Consequently, to a screen reader, it's still a window. All I can suggest is to play around with the order in which you do things. Hopefully you'll find one that works. Good luck, Tom On 3/30/2019 9:13 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I have to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin. Carol On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a thumb drive. All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if that's what you use. It's all I do. Hth, Tom On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up again. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Tom, Thanks for writing. In my case, I would go to the folder I wanted and then alt-tab to the drive I wanted to paste the files I wanted to move. The problem, although the drive was already open, was that WE would read absolutely nothing except the title bar read command would say "foreground staging." Windows-d would open the desktop back up, but the folders I already had open would not speak. A reboot did solve the problem for now. I canned the Microsoft Disability desk and the person there did not know what I was talking about. He did, although, quote help me out by changing the way my files are now listed. You know how the item number is normally spoken at the end of a file name in a list, he fixed it so the number would be read first. Also, I have always kept my files listed in detail view. Now, there are three columns and if I want to read down through a list, I have to use the right arrow and there are no longer details for the files. Oh well, I guess one gets what they pay for, grin. Carol On 3/29/2019 11:25 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Hi Carol, Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a thumb drive. All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if that's what you use. It's all I do. Hth, Tom On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up again. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: question about foreground staging
Hi Carol, Going to the desktop is how I take care of the foreground staging screen too. And I usually don't see it again. Although it does pop up once in a while. And it certainly hasn't caused any problems. I only see it when I'm on the desktop anyway, after boot, waking, or having had gone to the desktop before transferring files to a thumb drive. All I can think of is to use Windows+D instead of Windows+M if that's what you use. It's all I do. Hth, Tom On 3/29/2019 9:32 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up again. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
question about foreground staging
Does anyone know how to get rid of the foreground staging screen in Windows 10? It basically locks up my system in the manner that I can not read anything else except the title bar unless I go to the desktop. I can then open a folder, but if I do anything in that folder, the blank foreground staging screen comes up again. Thanks for any help. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question re Winamp script
alt-shift-k will put you in the center. Evan -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:15 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Question re Winamp script I question whether the balance in Winamp is 50%. But I can't remember the script command to change it left or right. Someone, please tell me the command to do this. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mentat1%40dslextreme.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Question re Winamp script
I question whether the balance in Winamp is 50%. But I can't remember the script command to change it left or right. Someone, please tell me the command to do this. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: updated firefox question
With Window-Eyes you need to use IE 11 or Chrome. Firefox is off the table for Window-Eyes 9.5.4, and probably will remain so. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: mack via Talk Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 5:18 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: mack Subject: updated firefox question using win 7 64 bit. i downloaded a portable copy of most recent firefox, did not want to get rid of my 52.e s r version in program files. however, w/e always causes firefox to crash. has anyone found a work around? i have NVDA and jaws, if there is no work around. . -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: updated firefox question
thats jaws 2018 and 2019 and n v d a. -Original Message- From: mack via Talk Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 2:18 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: mack Subject: updated firefox question using win 7 64 bit. i downloaded a portable copy of most recent firefox, did not want to get rid of my 52.e s r version in program files. however, w/e always causes firefox to crash. has anyone found a work around? i have NVDA and jaws, if there is no work around. . -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: updated firefox question
firefox 52 is the last version w e will work with. browse mode can not be turned on and it will crash in a few seconds after your portible version is loaded. jawss 18 and higher and n v d a will work with it. -Original Message- From: mack via Talk Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 2:18 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: mack Subject: updated firefox question using win 7 64 bit. i downloaded a portable copy of most recent firefox, did not want to get rid of my 52.e s r version in program files. however, w/e always causes firefox to crash. has anyone found a work around? i have NVDA and jaws, if there is no work around. . -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
updated firefox question
using win 7 64 bit. i downloaded a portable copy of most recent firefox, did not want to get rid of my 52.e s r version in program files. however, w/e always causes firefox to crash. has anyone found a work around? i have NVDA and jaws, if there is no work around. . -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes apps question
Those are the installers for the app. You can put them anywhere you want. Install any of them by selecting them, one at a time, and pressing enter on them. Hth, Tom On 2/22/2019 4:10 PM, mack via Talk wrote: i downloaded a folder with about 300 w/e apps from someone on this list. it is now residing in my downloads folder. i wonder if i need to move it into the gw micro folder. running win 7 64 bit. if i need to move it what would be the correct file path, thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window eyes apps question
i downloaded a folder with about 300 w/e apps from someone on this list. it is now residing in my downloads folder. i wonder if i need to move it into the gw micro folder. running win 7 64 bit. if i need to move it what would be the correct file path, thanks -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: another question about removing apt script
nno list dialogue is coming up. no idea what you are talking about. nothing like that happens when you open the we. control pannel.othing that you are telling me is working. At 12:31 AM 1/11/2019, you wrote: Hi Richard, In order to make Duxbury the active application, press Alt-Tab repeatedly and slowly until you have heard the word Duxbury. You can confirm which application is the active application by using the Window-Eyes TitleStatus of Current Application hot key, Ctrl-Shift-T. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: January 10, 2019 11:31 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: richard kurlander Subject: RE: another question about removing apt script how do you make dbt an active file?At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote: >Hi Richard, > >I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows: >1. Make Duxbury the active application. If necessary, close >the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens. >2. Open the Window-Eyes control panel using >Ctrl-backslash. Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down >the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced >options. If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to >the control panel. If the option is not checked, press Enter to >check it, and this will return focus to the control panel. >3. Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the >treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association >node. Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow >again to highlight Current Association. >4. Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit >box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set >file associated with the Duxbury program. Pressing >Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the >manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you >really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear >None. Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button >labelled Save and Associate. Pressing spacebar on this button will >associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed >the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you >should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads. > >I hope this works for you. > >Good luck, > >Rod > >Sent from Outlook for Windows > >-Original Message- >From: Talk > On >Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk >Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM >To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >Cc: richard kurlander >Subject: another question about removing apt script > >I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury >12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? >when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should >welcome to dbt > >___ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fe ur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flists.window-eyes.com%252Foptions.cgi%252Ftalk-window-eyes.com%252Frod_hutton%252540hotmail.com%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257C1%257C0%257C63682697754876%26sdata%3DkPqKEXkN3nEUW5C0StRwwqGdwNQKJpYOlbk0IhZBZ9s%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C39681733d7934062d9cd08d6777daa23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636827778933901205&sdata=Jd5XLpoPrnQgrb2Mqn%2F4iVoa%2F9fCOfYTtPy4tk%2FeOdo%3D&reserved=0. >For subscription options, visit >https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fe ur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flists.window-eyes.com%252Flistinfo.cgi%252Ftalk-window-eyes.com%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257C1%257C0%257C63682697754876%26sdata%3DFclQw5sg9OT0UJ1tN1dJcIlWJXo%252B2ezaV%252BugB5WzMjc%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C39681733d7934062d9cd08d6777daa23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636827778933901205&sdata=ycLIkVvLlMH1ARfE0Xs%2B2PZy%2FzD6g%2Bm4sqbhrny5fec%3D&reserved=0 >List archives can be found at >https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fe ur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flists.window-eyes.com%252Fprivate.cgi%252Ftalk-window-eyes.com%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257C1%257C0%257C636826977548
RE: another question about removing apt script
Hi Richard, In order to make Duxbury the active application, press Alt-Tab repeatedly and slowly until you have heard the word Duxbury. You can confirm which application is the active application by using the Window-Eyes TitleStatus of Current Application hot key, Ctrl-Shift-T. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: January 10, 2019 11:31 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: richard kurlander Subject: RE: another question about removing apt script how do you make dbt an active file?At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote: >Hi Richard, > >I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows: >1. Make Duxbury the active application. If necessary, close >the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens. >2. Open the Window-Eyes control panel using >Ctrl-backslash. Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down >the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced >options. If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to >the control panel. If the option is not checked, press Enter to >check it, and this will return focus to the control panel. >3. Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the >treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association >node. Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow >again to highlight Current Association. >4. Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit >box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set >file associated with the Duxbury program. Pressing >Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the >manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you >really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear >None. Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button >labelled Save and Associate. Pressing spacebar on this button will >associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed >the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you >should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads. > >I hope this works for you. > >Good luck, > >Rod > >Sent from Outlook for Windows > >-Original Message- >From: Talk > On >Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk >Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM >To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >Cc: richard kurlander >Subject: another question about removing apt script > >I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury >12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? >when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should >welcome to dbt > >___ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flists.window-eyes.com%252Foptions.cgi%252Ftalk-window-eyes.com%252Frod_hutton%252540hotmail.com%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257C1%257C0%257C63682697754876%26sdata%3DkPqKEXkN3nEUW5C0StRwwqGdwNQKJpYOlbk0IhZBZ9s%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C39681733d7934062d9cd08d6777daa23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636827778933901205&sdata=Jd5XLpoPrnQgrb2Mqn%2F4iVoa%2F9fCOfYTtPy4tk%2FeOdo%3D&reserved=0. >For subscription options, visit >https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flists.window-eyes.com%252Flistinfo.cgi%252Ftalk-window-eyes.com%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257C1%257C0%257C63682697754876%26sdata%3DFclQw5sg9OT0UJ1tN1dJcIlWJXo%252B2ezaV%252BugB5WzMjc%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C39681733d7934062d9cd08d6777daa23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636827778933901205&sdata=ycLIkVvLlMH1ARfE0Xs%2B2PZy%2FzD6g%2Bm4sqbhrny5fec%3D&reserved=0 >List archives can be found at >https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flists.window-eyes.com%252Fprivate.cgi%252Ftalk-window-eyes.com%26data%3D02%257C01%257C%257C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257C1%257C0%257C63682697754876%26sdata%3DXzjdcV4I9HxHZKdE8kDEHxVFHZ3yzLKNmVSAVkBRY8I%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7C01%7C%7C39681733d7934062d9cd08d6777daa23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682777893390120
RE: another question about removing apt script
how do you make dbt an active file?At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote: Hi Richard, I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows: 1. Make Duxbury the active application. If necessary, close the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens. 2. Open the Window-Eyes control panel using Ctrl-backslash. Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced options. If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to the control panel. If the option is not checked, press Enter to check it, and this will return focus to the control panel. 3. Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association node. Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow again to highlight Current Association. 4. Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set file associated with the Duxbury program. Pressing Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear None. Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button labelled Save and Associate. Pressing spacebar on this button will associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads. I hope this works for you. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: richard kurlander Subject: another question about removing apt script I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury 12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should welcome to dbt ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=kPqKEXkN3nEUW5C0StRwwqGdwNQKJpYOlbk0IhZBZ9s%3D&reserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=FclQw5sg9OT0UJ1tN1dJcIlWJXo%2B2ezaV%2BugB5WzMjc%3D&reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=XzjdcV4I9HxHZKdE8kDEHxVFHZ3yzLKNmVSAVkBRY8I%3D&reserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.kurlander%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: another question about removing apt script
this seems confusing, please call me 7182387130 and walk me through this.At 07:48 AM 1/10/2019, you wrote: Hi Richard, I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows: 1. Make Duxbury the active application. If necessary, close the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens. 2. Open the Window-Eyes control panel using Ctrl-backslash. Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced options. If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to the control panel. If the option is not checked, press Enter to check it, and this will return focus to the control panel. 3. Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association node. Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow again to highlight Current Association. 4. Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set file associated with the Duxbury program. Pressing Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear None. Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button labelled Save and Associate. Pressing spacebar on this button will associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads. I hope this works for you. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: richard kurlander Subject: another question about removing apt script I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury 12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should welcome to dbt ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=kPqKEXkN3nEUW5C0StRwwqGdwNQKJpYOlbk0IhZBZ9s%3D&reserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=FclQw5sg9OT0UJ1tN1dJcIlWJXo%2B2ezaV%2BugB5WzMjc%3D&reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=XzjdcV4I9HxHZKdE8kDEHxVFHZ3yzLKNmVSAVkBRY8I%3D&reserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.kurlander%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: another question about removing apt script
Hi Richard, I recommend removing the Duxbury set file association as follows: 1. Make Duxbury the active application. If necessary, close the Internet Explorer dialog you mentioned appears when Duxbury opens. 2. Open the Window-Eyes control panel using Ctrl-backslash. Press Alt-H to open the Help menu, and arrow down the menu until you come to the option called Show advanced options. If the option is checked, press Escape twice to return to the control panel. If the option is not checked, press Enter to check it, and this will return focus to the control panel. 3. Press F6 once or twice to ensure that you are in the treeview, and then press the letter A to highlight the Association node. Press right arrow to expand this node, and then right arrow again to highlight Current Association. 4. Press Tab once, and focus will be place in the Set File edit box, and you will probably hear Duxbury.set, which Is the usual set file associated with the Duxbury program. Pressing Tab once again places focus in a combo box which describes the manner in which association is accomplished, but the only thing you really need to know is that you can press down arrow until you hear None. Once you do this, pressing Tab once places focus on a button labelled Save and Associate. Pressing spacebar on this button will associate your program with None, meaning that you will have removed the association of the set file with your Duxbury program, and you should no longer have any dialog box opening up when Duxbury loads. I hope this works for you. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: January 10, 2019 1:16 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: richard kurlander Subject: another question about removing apt script I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury 12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should welcome to dbt ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=kPqKEXkN3nEUW5C0StRwwqGdwNQKJpYOlbk0IhZBZ9s%3D&reserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=FclQw5sg9OT0UJ1tN1dJcIlWJXo%2B2ezaV%2BugB5WzMjc%3D&reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C829156c012024072f97b08d676c313d0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63682697754876&sdata=XzjdcV4I9HxHZKdE8kDEHxVFHZ3yzLKNmVSAVkBRY8I%3D&reserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: another question about removing apt script
Sorry, but I don't use duxbury. So I have no idea. On 1/10/2019 1:15 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote: I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury 12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should welcome to dbt ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
another question about removing apt script
I removed the uxbury ap for duxbury however whenever I open duxbury 12.4 aisquared comes up and ie starts reading how do I delete that? when I open up duxbury 12.4 I just want duxbury to open and it should welcome to dbt ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: ElBraille question
Darrell, as far as I know, the LBraille runs Windows10 Home Edition with about 2GB RAM. A Focus 14 Braille display unit is slapped over, in my view, some cheapskate laptop. I would suggest you consider finding a dealer in your area, assuming they still have those, schedule some time with the dealer and go play with the toy. I believe you can get a very cheap laptop for the price of the LBraille. You may be well served getting a separate Braille display unit that you can connect to your computer or even your smartphone if you use the latter. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Ot: ElBraille question
Hello all, I don't know if anyone on this list uses an ElBraille or not, but I figured I would post my question here regarding this device. VR in Tennessee is going to get me one, to assist me in my job. 1. Can you perform any windows updates on the device. I assume that since it runs windows 10, you can update windows 10 without problems, but want to be sure. 2. What firmware updates if any have been released? 3. If you write scripts for an application, how hard is it to convert them for use with the ElBraille? Thanks, Darrell ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Question About Android phone, Off Topic
I agree with that statement. I have chosen to go forward with NVDA, pluss JFW for CakeTalking access with Sonar, although when I get the production computer upgraded to windows 10, it will be NVDA and Narrator, and Reaper for the reason that you will have to keep your screen reader current going forward or lose out. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bernie Perella via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 2:45 PM To: Jim via Talk Cc: Bernie Perella Subject: Re: Question About Android phone, Off Topic Hi Jim, I suppose that I can't say I have never looked back after purching an Android phone and tablet, but not because I long for something else. Rather, I a still using my Windows computer with Windows 1809. I am still using it because I still am using a couple of programs that I like and don't yet have one to replace them. for example, I really like the APH program Moneytalks and wish they would port it to another platform but don't think that will happen. I have found Android and all the phone features pretty easy to learn and unlike We, there are no profiles, no setfiles etc. At this point I am in process of getting office apps for android and that is going rather well. I know there are some on this list who are still hanging onto older versions of windows and WE but I certainly would recommend to them that they really get started on choosing a path on which to move forward. Note that MS is now supporting only the most recent versions of Windows and IE is going by the by. So, while one still has a working system, one could begin to think about and start making the change. while I have made my choice, I don't want to tell others what they should do. Take care and have a happy new years. Bernie On 12/29/2018 4:22 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: > Hi there Bernie! > > Well I went from the Apple iPhone 4 S to the Galaxy s5 and have never > looked back! Oh I still think about it but the Apple really hasn't > shown me any good reason to switch. Not that I wouldn't if I saw a > good reason. I have been very happy with my Android phones and will > probably stay with them for the immediate future! Just My 2-Sense > worth! Have A Good 1! de > > On 26-Dec-18 14:46, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: >> Hi Bob, Yes, I am using an Android phone and because I got fed up with >> high cellular phone bills, I switched to the Google Fi cellular >> network. As far as the phone goes, I was surprised how easy it was to >> learn how to use the built-in screen reader called Talkback. In fact, >> when the annoouncement about the death of WE came out, I gave >> considerable thought about what I should do. I considered switching to >> the other screenreader but discounted that path because I think that in >> the not too distant future technology will bring to an end such >> screenreradrs. So, that left me where so many of us have wanted to be, >> finding and acceptable screenreader that is supported by the operating >> system creator. There are three choices: MS narrator, Apple >> Voiceover,and Android Talkback. I played around with voiceover but I >> was unahappy about the fact that I would have to have an Iphone and yoou >> know how expensive they have become. So, that left Android and there >> are many phones in all price ranges that you can use. I bought a very >> inexpensive Android Tablet with the goal in mind of learning how to use >> Talkback. I felt that if using the touch screen was to difficult, I >> would eat the $100 cost and consider it just an experiment. But, I was >> surprised that I quickly learned how to use the tablet with the keyboard >> first and then detaching it so as to use the touch screen. Actually, >> Before buying the tablet,I needed a new cell phone so after reading >> about Google Fi, I decided to try it since no contract was involved. I >> bought from Google the Nexus 5 and I have never looked back. I coud go >> on but probably by now you have had enough. But, if you have any other >> questions, let me know. Bernie >> >> On 12/26/2018 2:32 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>> Anyone using an android phone"? If so, how do you like it? >>> >>> Is there an Android email list? Please reply off-list as this is >>> off-topic. >>> >>> -Bob Ringwald >>> r...@ringwald.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this emai
Re: Question About Android phone, Off Topic
Hi Jim, I suppose that I can't say I have never looked back after purching an Android phone and tablet, but not because I long for something else. Rather, I a still using my Windows computer with Windows 1809. I am still using it because I still am using a couple of programs that I like and don't yet have one to replace them. for example, I really like the APH program Moneytalks and wish they would port it to another platform but don't think that will happen. I have found Android and all the phone features pretty easy to learn and unlike We, there are no profiles, no setfiles etc. At this point I am in process of getting office apps for android and that is going rather well. I know there are some on this list who are still hanging onto older versions of windows and WE but I certainly would recommend to them that they really get started on choosing a path on which to move forward. Note that MS is now supporting only the most recent versions of Windows and IE is going by the by. So, while one still has a working system, one could begin to think about and start making the change. while I have made my choice, I don't want to tell others what they should do. Take care and have a happy new years. Bernie On 12/29/2018 4:22 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: > Hi there Bernie! > > Well I went from the Apple iPhone 4 S to the Galaxy s5 and have never > looked back! Oh I still think about it but the Apple really hasn't > shown me any good reason to switch. Not that I wouldn't if I saw a > good reason. I have been very happy with my Android phones and will > probably stay with them for the immediate future! Just My 2-Sense > worth! Have A Good 1! de > > On 26-Dec-18 14:46, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: >> Hi Bob, Yes, I am using an Android phone and because I got fed up with >> high cellular phone bills, I switched to the Google Fi cellular >> network. As far as the phone goes, I was surprised how easy it was to >> learn how to use the built-in screen reader called Talkback. In fact, >> when the annoouncement about the death of WE came out, I gave >> considerable thought about what I should do. I considered switching to >> the other screenreader but discounted that path because I think that in >> the not too distant future technology will bring to an end such >> screenreradrs. So, that left me where so many of us have wanted to be, >> finding and acceptable screenreader that is supported by the operating >> system creator. There are three choices: MS narrator, Apple >> Voiceover,and Android Talkback. I played around with voiceover but I >> was unahappy about the fact that I would have to have an Iphone and yoou >> know how expensive they have become. So, that left Android and there >> are many phones in all price ranges that you can use. I bought a very >> inexpensive Android Tablet with the goal in mind of learning how to use >> Talkback. I felt that if using the touch screen was to difficult, I >> would eat the $100 cost and consider it just an experiment. But, I was >> surprised that I quickly learned how to use the tablet with the keyboard >> first and then detaching it so as to use the touch screen. Actually, >> Before buying the tablet,I needed a new cell phone so after reading >> about Google Fi, I decided to try it since no contract was involved. I >> bought from Google the Nexus 5 and I have never looked back. I coud go >> on but probably by now you have had enough. But, if you have any other >> questions, let me know. Bernie >> >> On 12/26/2018 2:32 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>> Anyone using an android phone"? If so, how do you like it? >>> >>> Is there an Android email list? Please reply off-list as this is >>> off-topic. >>> >>> -Bob Ringwald >>> r...@ringwald.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > __
Re: Question About Android phone, Off Topic
Hi there Bernie! Well I went from the Apple iPhone 4 S to the Galaxy s5 and have never looked back! Oh I still think about it but the Apple really hasn't shown me any good reason to switch. Not that I wouldn't if I saw a good reason. I have been very happy with my Android phones and will probably stay with them for the immediate future! Just My 2-Sense worth! Have A Good 1! de On 26-Dec-18 14:46, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: Hi Bob, Yes, I am using an Android phone and because I got fed up with high cellular phone bills, I switched to the Google Fi cellular network. As far as the phone goes, I was surprised how easy it was to learn how to use the built-in screen reader called Talkback. In fact, when the annoouncement about the death of WE came out, I gave considerable thought about what I should do. I considered switching to the other screenreader but discounted that path because I think that in the not too distant future technology will bring to an end such screenreradrs. So, that left me where so many of us have wanted to be, finding and acceptable screenreader that is supported by the operating system creator. There are three choices: MS narrator, Apple Voiceover,and Android Talkback. I played around with voiceover but I was unahappy about the fact that I would have to have an Iphone and yoou know how expensive they have become. So, that left Android and there are many phones in all price ranges that you can use. I bought a very inexpensive Android Tablet with the goal in mind of learning how to use Talkback. I felt that if using the touch screen was to difficult, I would eat the $100 cost and consider it just an experiment. But, I was surprised that I quickly learned how to use the tablet with the keyboard first and then detaching it so as to use the touch screen. Actually, Before buying the tablet,I needed a new cell phone so after reading about Google Fi, I decided to try it since no contract was involved. I bought from Google the Nexus 5 and I have never looked back. I coud go on but probably by now you have had enough. But, if you have any other questions, let me know. Bernie On 12/26/2018 2:32 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Anyone using an android phone"? If so, how do you like it? Is there an Android email list? Please reply off-list as this is off-topic. -Bob Ringwald r...@ringwald.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question About Android phone, Off Topic
Got 2 copies of this email. Thanks for the info. n I wonder if anyone makes a raised dots overlay for the Android? I had one for my Ifone 5c. It was very helpful. Although I just could not catch on to the ifone. Tough to teach an old dawg, I guess... -Bob -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 2:44 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. ; 'Robert Ringwald' Subject: RE: Question About Android phone, Off Topic Mr. Ringwald asked: "Anyone using an android phone"?" Yes sir. I live and breathe Android with plans to someday ditch Windows and its associated screen readers as soon as it becomes practicable. I like and love Android. It is absolutely important to come to Android with an open mind and a readiness to deal with some lerning curve. No real handholding with Android compared to other platforms. There's also no one size fits all in Android land: There are a variety of toys to choose from depending on how much each person is willing to pay for an Android toy. You can begin your investigation of Android by visiting this site: www.inclusiveandroid.com There's also a book written by Ms. Ana Garza and Mr. James Meddaugh available from the National Braille Press. You also wrote: "Is there an Android email list?" Yes, there are quite a number of mailing lists for and about Android. The best one is setup by Google; it is hardly ever moderated, but several developers are on it. There is constant interaction between the user community and Talkback developers. It can be a very high traffic list; far too often, folks comparing Ios to Android bring on the noise! However, if you can look beyond the noise machines, there are so many knowledgeable folks on the mailing list that are willing to help an Android novice. One great thing about Android is that you can use any number of TTS engines; amongst them, Eloquence, Vocalizer, Voxygen, Speak TTS, Acapela and the list goes on. Typically, the default TTS on an Android device is Google TTS, but you can change it to whatever you like. To subscribe to the mailing list, please send a blank message to: eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com Please note that Braille support in Android is not all that arrow sharp at the moment. However, several Braille notetakers and displays are supported using BrailleBack. You do not need any extra software in order to connect your Android toy to the computer and interact with it. Your toy will show up as another drive and you can move files back and forth between your Windows and your Android toy just as you would do using a flash drive or an SD card. I hope the foregoing is reasonably helpful; if you have any additional questions, please post in this space. Much thanks! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Question About Android phone, Off Topic
Mr. Ringwald asked: "Anyone using an android phone"?" Yes sir. I live and breathe Android with plans to someday ditch Windows and its associated screen readers as soon as it becomes practicable. I like and love Android. It is absolutely important to come to Android with an open mind and a readiness to deal with some lerning curve. No real handholding with Android compared to other platforms. There's also no one size fits all in Android land: There are a variety of toys to choose from depending on how much each person is willing to pay for an Android toy. You can begin your investigation of Android by visiting this site: www.inclusiveandroid.com There's also a book written by Ms. Ana Garza and Mr. James Meddaugh available from the National Braille Press. You also wrote: "Is there an Android email list?" Yes, there are quite a number of mailing lists for and about Android. The best one is setup by Google; it is hardly ever moderated, but several developers are on it. There is constant interaction between the user community and Talkback developers. It can be a very high traffic list; far too often, folks comparing Ios to Android bring on the noise! However, if you can look beyond the noise machines, there are so many knowledgeable folks on the mailing list that are willing to help an Android novice. One great thing about Android is that you can use any number of TTS engines; amongst them, Eloquence, Vocalizer, Voxygen, Speak TTS, Acapela and the list goes on. Typically, the default TTS on an Android device is Google TTS, but you can change it to whatever you like. To subscribe to the mailing list, please send a blank message to: eyes-free+subscr...@googlegroups.com Please note that Braille support in Android is not all that arrow sharp at the moment. However, several Braille notetakers and displays are supported using BrailleBack. You do not need any extra software in order to connect your Android toy to the computer and interact with it. Your toy will show up as another drive and you can move files back and forth between your Windows and your Android toy just as you would do using a flash drive or an SD card. I hope the foregoing is reasonably helpful; if you have any additional questions, please post in this space. Much thanks! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question About Android phone, Off Topic
Hi Bob, Yes, I am using an Android phone and because I got fed up with high cellular phone bills, I switched to the Google Fi cellular network. As far as the phone goes, I was surprised how easy it was to learn how to use the built-in screen reader called Talkback. In fact, when the annoouncement about the death of WE came out, I gave considerable thought about what I should do. I considered switching to the other screenreader but discounted that path because I think that in the not too distant future technology will bring to an end such screenreradrs. So, that left me where so many of us have wanted to be, finding and acceptable screenreader that is supported by the operating system creator. There are three choices: MS narrator, Apple Voiceover,and Android Talkback. I played around with voiceover but I was unahappy about the fact that I would have to have an Iphone and yoou know how expensive they have become. So, that left Android and there are many phones in all price ranges that you can use. I bought a very inexpensive Android Tablet with the goal in mind of learning how to use Talkback. I felt that if using the touch screen was to difficult, I would eat the $100 cost and consider it just an experiment. But, I was surprised that I quickly learned how to use the tablet with the keyboard first and then detaching it so as to use the touch screen. Actually, Before buying the tablet,I needed a new cell phone so after reading about Google Fi, I decided to try it since no contract was involved. I bought from Google the Nexus 5 and I have never looked back. I coud go on but probably by now you have had enough. But, if you have any other questions, let me know. Bernie On 12/26/2018 2:32 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: > Anyone using an android phone"? If so, how do you like it? > > Is there an Android email list? Please reply off-list as this is > off-topic. > > -Bob Ringwald > r...@ringwald.com > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Question About Android phone, Off Topic
Anyone using an android phone"? If so, how do you like it? Is there an Android email list? Please reply off-list as this is off-topic. -Bob Ringwald r...@ringwald.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: JAWS question
Helllo, Thanks so much for your message. That method works perfectly here. Thanks again, and Merry Christmas! Norene Trappa -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 4:33 PM To: Norene Trappa via Talk Cc: Jim Subject: Re: JAWS question Hi there! When I unload Jaws and wish to restart it, I simply press the 'windows key' or the 'CTRL-Escape' and type the word Jaws and press enter. This will restart the program for you. I do not have enough experience with Jaws to know whether or not there is some sort of hot key you can press. Hope this helps and Good Luck! de . On 02-Dec-18 15:08, Norene Trappa via Talk wrote: Hello again! Another question. If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the voice to speak again? In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back. Thanks in advance for help. Norene -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: JAWS question Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS key is the Insert key. A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available: Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their action. Insert-T: Read title bar. Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in Window-Eyes. Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes. Insert-down-arrow: Read to end. Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl. Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program. Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel. Insert-F4: Unload JAWS. The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the six-pack that are to the left of it. Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what the current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you will be productive. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello! Sounds like you know something about Jaws. I am very new at Jaws with a question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is. Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom? It was necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen reader I ever used. I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus. Quite a challenge. Thanks in advance. Norene Trappa -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: JAWS question There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu, if memory serves. On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: Hi Kevin, Yes, that is possible. The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type: %appdata% Here you find a folder freedom scientific In this folder you will find settings about jaws. In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this folder to the same location on the other computer. I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so jaws will not lock files. Regards, Marten On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another? > Kevin Huber > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily r
RE: JAWS question
Noreen, Just to be clear, the Insert F4 is not just muting JAWS, but exiting the program, which is why you then need to start it back up when you want to use it again. I'm not aware of a mute feature. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 1:08 PM To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello again! Another question. If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the voice to speak again? In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back. Thanks in advance for help. Norene -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: JAWS question Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS key is the Insert key. A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available: Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their action. Insert-T: Read title bar. Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in Window-Eyes. Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes. Insert-down-arrow: Read to end. Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl. Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program. Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel. Insert-F4: Unload JAWS. The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the six-pack that are to the left of it. Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what the current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you will be productive. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello! Sounds like you know something about Jaws. I am very new at Jaws with a question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is. Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom? It was necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen reader I ever used. I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus. Quite a challenge. Thanks in advance. Norene Trappa -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: JAWS question There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu, if memory serves. On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Yes, that is possible. > > The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type: > %appdata% > Here you find a folder freedom scientific > In this folder you will find settings about jaws. > In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder > with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this > folder to the same location on the other computer. > I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so > jaws will not lock files. > > Regards, Marten > > > On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk > wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another? > > Kevin Huber > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com __
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You have to create your own hot key for JAWS. JAWS doesn't come up with an automatic hot key like Window-Eyes did. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 2:34 PM To: Norene Trappa via Talk Cc: Jim Subject: Re: JAWS question Hi there! When I unload Jaws and wish to restart it, I simply press the 'windows key' or the 'CTRL-Escape' and type the word Jaws and press enter. This will restart the program for you. I do not have enough experience with Jaws to know whether or not there is some sort of hot key you can press. Hope this helps and Good Luck! de . On 02-Dec-18 15:08, Norene Trappa via Talk wrote: > Hello again! Another question. > If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the > voice to speak again? In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back. > Thanks in advance for help. > > Norene > > > > -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen > Subject: Re: JAWS question > > Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS > key is > the Insert key. > A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available: > Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their > action. > Insert-T: Read title bar. > Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in > Window-Eyes. > Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes. > Insert-down-arrow: Read to end. > Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl. > Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program. > Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel. > Insert-F4: Unload JAWS. > The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the > six-pack that are to the left of it. > Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about > transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what > the > current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start > interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you > will be > productive. > > > > Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD > http://lras.home.sprynet.com > -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM > To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Norene Trappa > Subject: Re: JAWS question > > Hello! > > Sounds like you know something about Jaws. I am very new at Jaws with a > question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it > is. > Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom? It was > necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen > reader I ever used. I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus. Quite a > challenge. Thanks in advance. > > Norene Trappa > > > > -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: John Covici > Subject: Re: JAWS question > > There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu, > if memory serves. > > On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400, > Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: >> >> Hi Kevin, >> >> Yes, that is possible. >> >> The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type: >> %appdata% >> Here you find a folder freedom scientific >> In this folder you will find settings about jaws. >> In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder >> with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this >> folder to the same location on the other computer. >> I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so >> jaws will not lock files. >> >> Regards, Marten >> >> >> On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk >> wrote: >> >> > Hi: >> > >> > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to >> another? >> > Kevin Huber >> > ___ >> > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >> the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> > >> > For membership options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. >> > For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > List
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Hi there! When I unload Jaws and wish to restart it, I simply press the 'windows key' or the 'CTRL-Escape' and type the word Jaws and press enter. This will restart the program for you. I do not have enough experience with Jaws to know whether or not there is some sort of hot key you can press. Hope this helps and Good Luck! de . On 02-Dec-18 15:08, Norene Trappa via Talk wrote: Hello again! Another question. If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the voice to speak again? In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back. Thanks in advance for help. Norene -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: JAWS question Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS key is the Insert key. A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available: Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their action. Insert-T: Read title bar. Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in Window-Eyes. Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes. Insert-down-arrow: Read to end. Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl. Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program. Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel. Insert-F4: Unload JAWS. The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the six-pack that are to the left of it. Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what the current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you will be productive. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello! Sounds like you know something about Jaws. I am very new at Jaws with a question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is. Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom? It was necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen reader I ever used. I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus. Quite a challenge. Thanks in advance. Norene Trappa -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: JAWS question There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu, if memory serves. On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: Hi Kevin, Yes, that is possible. The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type: %appdata% Here you find a folder freedom scientific In this folder you will find settings about jaws. In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this folder to the same location on the other computer. I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so jaws will not lock files. Regards, Marten On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another? > Kevin Huber > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives ca
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Hi Norene, Try Ctrl-Alt-J. Best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: December 2, 2018 3:08 PM To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello again! Another question. If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the voice to speak again? In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back. Thanks in advance for help. Norene -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: JAWS question Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS key is the Insert key. A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available: Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their action. Insert-T: Read title bar. Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in Window-Eyes. Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes. Insert-down-arrow: Read to end. Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl. Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program. Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel. Insert-F4: Unload JAWS. The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the six-pack that are to the left of it. Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what the current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you will be productive. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flras.home.sprynet.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca5de21a188574e2fc70708d65891e6a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636793780991532737&sdata=ZJ5Yvqv7zmPrSSgVbKfRtLeekOCMJzS2BdFHoKd9sGs%3D&reserved=0 -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello! Sounds like you know something about Jaws. I am very new at Jaws with a question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is. Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom? It was necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen reader I ever used. I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus. Quite a challenge. Thanks in advance. Norene Trappa -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: JAWS question There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu, if memory serves. On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Yes, that is possible. > > The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type: > %appdata% > Here you find a folder freedom scientific > In this folder you will find settings about jaws. > In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder > with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this > folder to the same location on the other computer. > I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so > jaws will not lock files. > > Regards, Marten > > > On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk > wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another? > > Kevin Huber > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fmartenpu%2540xs4all.nl&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca5de21a188574e2fc70708d65891e6a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636793780991532737&sdata=TNbjBWsH9ng%2F%2FxpwXWZJhk%2B1EpidvUa92siFiEBTdbc%3D&reserved=0. > > For subscription options, visit > > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca5de21a188574e2fc70708d65891e6a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636793780991532737&sdata=AIw2cdh7tdB5x5FKr7cU%2BHJwrKz04KoDpiznbI38NRQ%3D&reserved=0 > > List archives can be found at > > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca5de21a188574e2fc70708d65891e6a5%7C84df
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Hello again! Another question. If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the voice to speak again? In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back. Thanks in advance for help. Norene -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: JAWS question Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS key is the Insert key. A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available: Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their action. Insert-T: Read title bar. Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in Window-Eyes. Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes. Insert-down-arrow: Read to end. Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl. Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program. Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel. Insert-F4: Unload JAWS. The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the six-pack that are to the left of it. Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what the current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you will be productive. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Norene Trappa Subject: Re: JAWS question Hello! Sounds like you know something about Jaws. I am very new at Jaws with a question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is. Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom? It was necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen reader I ever used. I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus. Quite a challenge. Thanks in advance. Norene Trappa -Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: John Covici Subject: Re: JAWS question There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu, if memory serves. On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: Hi Kevin, Yes, that is possible. The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type: %appdata% Here you find a folder freedom scientific In this folder you will find settings about jaws. In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this folder to the same location on the other computer. I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so jaws will not lock files. Regards, Marten On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: > Hi: > > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another? > Kevin Huber > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nstrappa%40sbcglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For me
