Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
scusa questo mi era scappato, scusa. C'è un preanuncio di ciclabile, ma non il cartello dove comincia. Vabbene, anche se è un po' strano. 2015-07-14 7:45 GMT+02:00 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Il 07/13/2015 11:33 PM, Volker Schmidt scrisse: (non metterei bicycle=designated se non c'è un segnale rotondo blu) Poi venendo da est, un breve pezzo della strada deve avere valori diversi, c'è un parcheggio nel bosco (http://osm.org/go/0ChbaNYxF--?m=way=59801344) Non ho capito bene. All'inizio della strada, dove si incrocia con la provinciale, c'e' il cartello blu di ciclopedonale con la specifica che inizia dopo 350 metri (l'avevo gia' scritto ieri). Non e' sufficiente questo per usare bicycle=designated? grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
On 2015-07-13 at 14:58:48 +0200, emmexx wrote: Il 07/13/2015 02:37 PM, Aury88 scrisse: Direi che l'uso prevalente non e' agricolo. E poi come si misura l'uso prevalente? Quella strada il sabato e domenica e' probabilmente piena di pedoni e ciclisti che vanno verso le ciclabili lungo ticino e navigli. Durante la settimana invece ci sara' un po' di movimento di trattori e altri mezzi agricoli. d'altra parte, mi pare abbastanza comune che delle strade costruite e mantenute ad uso agricolo o forestale vedano passare un numero più elevato di pedoni nel weekend che non di trattori in settimana. Soprattutto per l'uso forestale, nel quale la strada ti serve, ma non è che la fai tutti i giorni. Se però non passassero i mezzi agricoli, verrebbe fatta comunque manutenzione? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
Il 07/14/2015 09:10 AM, Volker Schmidt scrisse: scusa questo mi era scappato, scusa. C'è un preanuncio di ciclabile, ma non il cartello dove comincia. Vabbene, anche se è un po' strano. E' strano ma come ho gia' scritto non stavo facendo una ricognizione e non ero concentrato su cartelli, divieti, ecc. Quando ho preparato il percorso che volevo fare mi aveva colpito il fatto che su osm quello fosse descritto come track mentre su street view ci fosse il cartello di ciclopedonale. E l'unica cosa che ho osservato (peraltro male) e' stata il cartello di ciclopedonale. Come saprai la segnaletica in Italia e' fatta da cani... ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-at] Anrainer access=private oder access=destination?
Hallo, kann sich mal bitte jemand von euch in dieser Diskussion im OSM-Forum äußern? http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31873 fkv hat sich mit Nop einen Editwar auf der Wikiseite DE:Key:access geleistet. Jetzt wird das Thema im Forum diskutiert (mit Beteiligung von fkv). Es wäre schön, wenn sich Österreicher in dieser Diskussion äußern würden. fkv allein will ich keinen Glauben schenken. Viele Grüße Michael ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Anrainer access=private oder access=destination?
On 14.07.2015 08:28, Michael Reichert wrote: fkv hat sich mit Nop einen Editwar auf der Wikiseite DE:Key:access geleistet. Umgekehrt: Den Editwar hat Nop begonnen, und von ihm ist auch der letzte Edit. An der Diskussion hat er sich auch nicht beteiligt, und PNs beantwortet er auch nicht. Jetzt wird das Thema im Forum diskutiert (mit Beteiligung von fkv). Es wäre schön, wenn sich Österreicher in dieser Diskussion äußern würden. fkv allein will ich keinen Glauben schenken. Natürlich begrüße ich es, wenn sich andere Österreicher beteiligen. Aber warum willst du mir keinen Glauben schenken? Gefällt dir meine Haarfarbe nicht? Du solltest schon sagen, in welchem Punkt du anderer Meinung bist und warum. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
Andy Townsend wrote: (6) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SomeoneElse/Your_tiles_from_osm.org Interesting hack Andy, thanks 2015-07-14 6:18 GMT+01:00 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Unfortunately I suspect what I'd choose works well for a certain type of countryside, but less well for town centres [...] so I suspect that we'd soon hit the same sort of issues as the standard style has You can fairly easily adapt rendering rules for rural areas vs towns. See for example http://cycle.travel/map?lat=51.791lon=-1.5087zoom=13 : pubs aren't shown in towns at z13 (Witney), but are in villages (Minster Lovell, Ducklington). At z16 they're shown in towns but not cities. It doesn't play nicely with minutely updates, but would we need that for a UK map? I'd have thought a daily reimport - very feasible on a UK-sized extract - would be enough. Sounds good. Mind if I ask how it is done? (i.e. rendering rules for rural vs town) - is it simply two different stylesheets, plus a list of specified boundaries, or something responsive to POI density, or...? If there's a blurb online somewhere that gives a hint I'd be interested. (Sorry if I'm taking this off-topic, not sure.) Dan ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
Il 07/14/2015 09:09 AM, Elena ``of Valhalla'' scrisse: d'altra parte, mi pare abbastanza comune che delle strade costruite e mantenute ad uso agricolo o forestale vedano passare un numero più elevato di pedoni nel weekend che non di trattori in settimana. Soprattutto per l'uso forestale, nel quale la strada ti serve, ma non è che la fai tutti i giorni. Se però non passassero i mezzi agricoli, verrebbe fatta comunque manutenzione? Quella strada attraversa un bosco, e' all'interno del parco del ticino ed arriva ad una serie di strade e stradine che permettono di scendere verso navigli e ticino. Come si puo' leggere su wikipedia la strada era chiusa fino a qualche decina d'anni fa. E' stata riaperta allo scopo di renderla fruibile alla popolazione. E' inserita all'interno di percorsi proposti dal parco o dai comuni della zona. Sarebbe interessante il parere di qualche mappatore della zona... Vedendo gli esempi sul wiki del valore path, ci sono almeno 3-4 foto che assomigliano a via gaggio. Il wiki specifica anche che se non c'e' la segnaletica di ciclopedonale o divieto e' meglio usare track, ma li' i cartelli ci sono! ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com wrote: Grazie Simone, se eseguo city in italy mi da un errore, runtime error: Query timed out in query at line 13 after 26 seconds. provo a fare la query quando fallisce, devi aumentare il timeout, io l'ho portato a 250 -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
Facendo girare la query funziona.Grazie Mille. Esiste qualche tutorial per imparare la sintassi? la documentazione non mi è stata di aiuto. L From: sim...@cortesi.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:37:32 +0200 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com wrote: Grazie Simone, se eseguo city in italy mi da un errore, runtime error: Query timed out in query at line 13 after 26 seconds. provo a fare la query quando fallisce, devi aumentare il timeout, io l'ho portato a 250 -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
dieterdreist wrote sent from a phone Am 13.07.2015 um 20:02 schrieb Aury88 lt; spacedriver88@ gt;: per questi dati ci sono dei tag specifici. non ho dubbi che la maggior parte delle strade sterrate e larghe in mezzo ai campi siano track, per me le strade bianche sono tutte al meno track, ma se di collegamento (vuol dire che non finiscono) sono unclassified. Path lo metterei soltanto quando è troppo stretto per un trattore oppure quando l'accesso è vietato o bloccato ai trattori / mezzi per lavori nel bosco. ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@ https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it Martin quello che suggerisci a mio avviso non è sempre vero e rimango dell'idea che la distinzione tra una track ed un path in base alla larghezza sia di per se errato. Intanto path e track non pongono vincoli sulla dimensione max della strada (track pone un vincolo minimo come condizione necessaria ma non sufficiente per la definizione di track come è ovvio che sia...sfido a definire strada ad uso agricolo una strada che per dimensioni non ne permette quell'utilizzo )...tutto il resto è suggerito e quindi non è sempre vero. è chiaro anche che una strada di una certa importanza pedonale debba permettere l'accesso ai trattori per poter fare manutenzione (per esempio taglio di rami per evitare che quelli deboli si spezzino e cadano in testa alle persone), ma non è quello lo scopo di utilizzo della strada, è, secondo me, più una conseguenza di come è utilizzata quella strada...lo scopo rimane far accedere le persone, e sempre per permettere l'accesso (sicuro) delle persone la strada subisce una certa manutenzione tramite appropriati mezzi che quindi devono poter accedere. il fatto poi che delle strade larghe colleghino varie strade non è detto che vengano usate per normali collegamenti automobilistici (e quindi siano unclassified)...può essere semplicemente che il parco/bosco è accessibile da vari punti collegati tra loro...in questo caso la strada è addirittura vietata all'accesso ai mezzi motorizzati, almeno da quello che ho capito, tranne che per brevi tratti per raggiungere i parcheggi dai quali poi si prosegue (solitamente)a piedi o in bici...quindi non è una strada, secondo me, unclassified... può essere track se ci sono attività economiche di tipo agricolo o forestale ma se quei sentieri sono ad uso turistico anche se percorsi da mezzi agricoli/forestali per l'attività manutentiva ihmo il tag path rimane il più appropriato - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Valori-multipli-per-highway-tp5849984p5850107.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 11:53 schrieb Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: sfido a definire strada ad uso agricolo una strada che per dimensioni non ne permette quell'utilizzo ) una strada sterrata nel bosco è quasi sempre ad uso forestale, che ci va anche gente per divertirsi non cambia nulla credo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-cz] Nove preklady wiki
Ahoj, ve spolupraci s VOPem jsme prelozili dalsi kusy wiki. Tak jako vzdy posilam linky na nova hesla a prosim o jejich precteni, kontrolu a pripadne pripominky. Doufam, ze budou k uzitku a take, ze je nekdo vubec cte. ;-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:produce https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:landuse%3Dreservoir https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:landuse%3Dresidential https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:landuse%3Dretail https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:landuse%3Dsalt_pond https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:landuse%3Dvillage_green https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:layer https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dbeacon https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dbreakwater https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dbridge https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dgroyne https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dpier https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dbunker_silo https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dcampanile https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dchimney https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dcommunications_tower https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dcrane https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dcross https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:man_made%3Dcutline https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:bridge https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:access%3Ddesignated https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:access%3Dprivate https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:access%3Dno https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:access%3Dcustomers https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:maxstay https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:minspeed https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:maxaxleload https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:maxheight:physical https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:maxspeed https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:horse https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:boat https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:motorboat https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:inline_skates https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:psv Mejte se, Dalibor ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
Dan S wrote:
Sounds good. Mind if I ask how it is done? (i.e. rendering rules
for rural vs town)
Post-import, I run a couple of queries along the lines of
UPDATE planet_osm_point SET urban=true FROM built_up_areas WHERE
ST_Contains(built_up_areas.geom,way)
using a pre-existing 'built_up_areas' table which contains polygons of,
well, built-up areas. I use OS Open Data for the polygons but you could no
doubt construct them from OSM landuse if that floats your boat.
The Mapnik stylesheet queries then simply respond to that column:
#poi[type='pub'][urban=true][zoom=15],
#poi[type='pub'][urban=false][zoom=13] {
...rendering rules...
}
cheers
Richard
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Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
2015-07-14 11:43 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Esiste qualche tutorial per imparare la sintassi? la documentazione non mi è stata di aiuto. nel wizard trova tutte le parole che siano definite come sintassi in iD: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo/Wizard#Intelligent_Wizard -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Sentieristica CAI
2015-06-25 21:53 GMT+02:00 Dario Zontini Gmail dario.zont...@gmail.com: La commissione sentieri della SAT di Trento [1] aveva programmato una cosa simile (avevano cambiato la licenza in ODbL appunto per aggiornare i dati da OSM) , non so a che punto siano. Prova a contattarli per ora penso che non si stiamo muovendo molto, l'idea c'è sempre ma il lavoro da fare è abbastanza e le persone interessate poche. Comunque c'è sempre interazione tra OSM e SAT (come ben sai ;-) ) Puoi indicarci gli esempi di tua conscenza delle altre sezioni CAI? [1] http://www.sat.tn.it/default.aspx?fn=loadareaidarea=12 Ciao -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 11:01 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Pfiffig wäre eben Flächen und Wege komplett getrennt zu behandeln. Im JOSM z.b. als seperate Layer die man nicht verbinden KANN. es gibt doch durchaus Flächen die richtigerweise auf der Straßenmitte enden (bzw. waterway), z.B. admin boundaries in manchen Fällen, ggf. auch place Grenzen, PLZ-Grenzen, ... Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 07:48:28AM +0200, Andreas Labres wrote: Irgendwie spiegelt für mich die Diskussion hier das ewige Dilemma um diese unsäglichen Flächennutzungsklassen wider. Ich fände es wesentlich sinnvoller, sich davon zu verabschieden und dafür die Oberfläche zu beschreiben (landcover ist eine Idee in dieser Richtung), also: hier ist Wiese, hier ist Wald, hier ist Acker, hier ist Weingarten, hier ist Haus -- und dann wahlweise hier ist nix (weil man die Straße eben notwendigerweise als Way taggen muss) oder hier ist Straße (area:highway). Auch DANN werden eben die Flächen an die Wege geklebt. Ist ja kein landuse/highway Problem. Das ganze ist ein Problem weil anders als im klassischen GIS Openstreetmap eben einen Graphen kennt um Routing machen zu können und wir Straßen eben als Vektor mappen. Damit hast du eine Mischung zwischen Flächen und Vektoren. Pfiffig wäre eben Flächen und Wege komplett getrennt zu behandeln. Im JOSM z.b. als seperate Layer die man nicht verbinden KANN. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de We need to self-defense - GnuPG/PGP enable your email today! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
Il giorno 14 luglio 2015 11:43, Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com ha scritto: Facendo girare la query funziona. Grazie Mille. Esiste qualche tutorial per imparare la sintassi? la documentazione non mi è stata di aiuto. C'è questo in via di sviluppo http://osmlab.github.io/learnoverpass//en/ L Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-de] Schule: landuse=residential oder amenity=school? [war: Re: Umfrage (Entwurf) zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen]
sent from a phone Am 13.07.2015 um 22:33 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: D.h. das amenity=school liegt auf welchem landuse? auf einem impliziten Schul/education landuse. Von den gut eingeführten landuses passt keiner. Multipolygon und aus dem landuse ausstanzen? Löcher haben landuses eigentlich fast nie, wenn man die Straßen nicht mit einschließt (also noch kein detaillierter landuse gemappt ist). Ich würde das eher kleinteilig angehen dh zum Verfeinern von großen polygonen diese in kleinere aufsplitten anstatt Löcher reinzuschneiden, weil letzteres dazu tendiert zum Wartungshorror zu mutieren (und ist intransparent, erfordert öfter das Nachladen von fehlenden Relationsmitgliedern etc) Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-GB] Survey: A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group?
I agree; I don't really see what harm a UK group would have; after all, there are local OSM groups in other countries, so why not here? No-one's being asked to stump up money for servers etc just yet; it's just an initial survey. Nick From: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net Sent: 13 July 2015 19:08 To: Dave F.; Andy Mabbett; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Survey: A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group? Dave, I don't think anyone has a veto. Why would it harm you if this went ahead? On 13 July 2015 19:00:56 GMT+01:00, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Find out first if people want it, rather than ask how they think it should be implemented. On 13/07/2015 14:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 12:39, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.commailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: there's no option to disagree with the whole proposal What else do you suppose the Strongly disagree column is for? (Though how you expect disagreement with a group of people deciding to start an organisation to stop them is beyond me) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk [Avast logo] http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.comhttp://www.avast.com/ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb Cheers, Chris User chillly Blog http://chris-osm.blogspot.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
Buongiorno, mi servirebbe estrarre da OSM i nodi delle città italiane, ho provato con overpass turbo, con questa query: place=city in Italy Ma senza fortuna, dove sbaglio? Grazie mille L ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
2015-07-14 11:06 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Buongiorno, mi servirebbe estrarre da OSM i nodi delle città italiane, ho provato con overpass turbo, con questa query: place=city in Italy Ma senza fortuna, dove sbaglio? Nella sintassi della query. Quella corretta è: osm-script query into=nazione type=area has-kv k=admin_level v=2/ has-kv k=name v=Italia/ /query union query type=node area-query from=nazione/ has-kv k=place v=city/ /query /union print mode=meta / /osm-script Ciao, Andrea ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
2015-07-14 11:06 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com:
mi servirebbe estrarre da OSM i nodi delle città italiane, ho provato con
overpass turbo, con questa query:
place=city in Italy
Ma senza fortuna, dove sbaglio?
nel wizard scrivi city in italy e ottieni questo (non ottieni tutte le
città perche' non tutte sono place=city, ma anche place=town:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places):
/*
This has been generated by the overpass-turbo wizard.
The original search was:
“city in italy”
*/
[out:json][timeout:250];
// fetch area “italy” to search in
{{geocodeArea:italy}}-.searchArea;
// gather results
(
// query part for: “city”
node[place=city](area.searchArea);
way[place=city](area.searchArea);
relation[place=city](area.searchArea);
);
// print results
out body;
;
out skel qt;
--
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Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
Grazie Simone,
se eseguo city in italy mi da un errore,
runtime error: Query timed out in query at line 13 after 26 seconds.
provo a fare la query
From: sim...@cortesi.com
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:17:10 +0200
To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
2015-07-14 11:06 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com:
mi servirebbe estrarre da OSM i nodi delle città italiane,
ho provato con overpass turbo, con questa query:
place=city in Italy
Ma senza fortuna, dove sbaglio?
nel wizard scrivi city in italy e ottieni questo (non ottieni tutte le città
perche' non tutte sono place=city, ma anche place=town:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places):
/*This has been generated by the overpass-turbo wizard.The original search
was:“city in italy”*/[out:json][timeout:250];// fetch area “italy” to search
in{{geocodeArea:italy}}-.searchArea;// gather results( // query part for:
“city” node[place=city](area.searchArea);
way[place=city](area.searchArea);
relation[place=city](area.searchArea););// print resultsout body;;out skel
qt;
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Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com wrote: Grazie Simone, se eseguo city in italy mi da un errore, Il wizard compone una query per cercare amenity=townhall. Non mi sembra si quello che chiede Luca. Ciao, Andrea ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-at] Anrainer access=private oder access=destination?
On 14.07.2015 11:06, Walter Nordmann wrote: An der Diskussion hat er sich auch nicht beteiligt, und PNs beantwortet er auch nicht. Nur eine Vermutung: Manche Mapper haben auch noch ein Privatleben. Ja und, glaubst du, ich hab keins? Soweit ich den Text von Michael verstehe, werden deine Kollegen darüber informiert, dass im Forum eine Diskussion zu deiner Meinung und deinen Änderungen durchgeführt wird. Nicht zu meiner Meinung, sondern zu Erklärungen im Wiki und zu Begriffsinhalten. Und Michael hat nicht nur informiert, sondern unterschwellig bewertet. Genauso wie du. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-it] loc_ref a Milano e merge di ways
2015-03-18 12:17 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich luca.perc...@gmail.com: Ciao a tutti, Ciao Luca, mi sono accorto che nell'ultimo mese a Milano è stato effettuato il merge di parecchie ways che erano state splittate agli incroci durante il lavoro di allineamento col grafo AMAT. Ogni way aveva un loc_ref che la collegava al corrispondente arco del grafo comunale. Il principale autore delle modifiche è l'utente Federico Cabrini (id=602784), che ho provato a contattare ieri senza successo. ti ha più risposto? Buona giornata a tutti Sig -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] (osm: message 8 of 20) Boutiques d'accès à Internet
On 14/07/2015 00:55, Philippe Verdy wrote: Bouygues Telecom [..] est connu aussi comme BouygTel ou bouygtel en abrégé (déjà utilisé comme nom de domaine alternatif en .fr et .com, et present sur certains logos, utilisé aussi sur les liens de publicité sur Twitter, et plusieurs de ses portail dont le portail TV, le vieux service WAP, la messagerie vocale, le nom est utilisé aussi comme nom d'utilisateur pour communiquer sur les réseaux sociaux ou sur les forums en ligne). Mentionnons également Bytel, nettement plus fréquent en interne et en interop. M'enfin ici le nom complet est celui qui est approprié. On ne parle plus de France Telecom hormi pour la holding, car pour le rete tout est passé sous la marque 'Orange Officiellement, oui - mais France Telecom reste un nom d'usage courant. Certes, c'est plutôt le nom officiel Orange qui sera approprié pour un étiquetage... Je dois vieillir car je n'arrive toujours pas à m'y faire. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
On 13/07/2015 18:14, Andy Allan wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 14:34, Mike Evans mi...@saxicola.co.uk wrote: It seems to me that the viaduct and the railway are two separate entities and should mapped as such. Just because an abandoned railway happens to run on the top of the viaduct is irrelevant in my opinion. Exactly. If there was a massive viaduct that used to carry power cables, it should be shown since it's a massive sodding viaduct, not because there used to be some cables on it. The same goes for massive trenches in the ground (i.e. cuttings) and enormous embankments. This. From a general purpose mapping perspective, if you can see it (and it's big enough to be noteworthy) then it should be mapped, irrespective of its current or former purpose. Usage is a separate and orthogonal consideration. Whether a bridge, for example, is used for a road, a railway, a footbridge or even has no current use will affect the iconography and colours applied to it. But it doesn't affect the fact that it's there, and therefore should not affect the question of whether it appears on the map in the first place. Mark -- http://www.markgoodge.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-at] Anrainer access=private oder access=destination?
@Liste: Umgekehrt: Den Editwar hat Nop begonnen, und von ihm ist auch der letzte Edit. Und das ist gut so. An der Diskussion hat er sich auch nicht beteiligt, http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=515742#p515742 und PNs beantwortet er auch nicht. Nur eine Vermutung: Manche Mapper haben auch noch ein Privatleben. Gefällt dir meine Haarfarbe nicht? Was du auf den Zähnen hast, ist mir eigentlich völlig egal. Du solltest schon sagen, in welchem Punkt du anderer Meinung bist und warum Soweit ich den Text von Michael verstehe, werden deine Kollegen darüber informiert, dass im Forum eine Diskussion zu deiner Meinung und deinen Änderungen durchgeführt wird. Es kann sich jeder, der will, DORT beteiligen. Daher ist ein Zitieren oder gar weiteres Diskutieren hier unnnötig. Man kann das Forum ohne Registrierung benutzen. Lesen geht ohne Anmeldung, Schreiben nur mit. Anmelden kann man sich mit dem OSM-Account und dem OSM-Passwort. Gruss walter ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
è giusta prova solo ad aumentare il timeout da 25 a 250 Basta che cambi il valore nella finestra dove si scrive la query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/aq3 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] [OT] si fidano di Google Maps e i fans di Google vanno allo stadio di Este invece che di Padova
Oggi il Mattino di Padova da la notizia Errore di Google Maps, i fan di Vasco arrivano a Este Almeno cinquanta auto deviate verso lo stadio atestino anziché l'Euganeo di Padova. Tanto che hanno dovuto avvertire i malcapitati con un cartello: Il concerto non è qui http://mattinopadova.gelocal.it/padova/cronaca/2015/07/14/news/errore-di-google-maps-i-fan-di-vasco-arrivano-a-este-1.11774973?ref=fbfmp su OpenStreetMap invece tutto regolare :) http://de.straba.us/2015/07/14/fan_di_vasco_con_gmaps_arrivi_tardi_al_concerto/ -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
sent from a phone Am 13.07.2015 um 20:02 schrieb Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: per questi dati ci sono dei tag specifici. non ho dubbi che la maggior parte delle strade sterrate e larghe in mezzo ai campi siano track, per me le strade bianche sono tutte al meno track, ma se di collegamento (vuol dire che non finiscono) sono unclassified. Path lo metterei soltanto quando è troppo stretto per un trattore oppure quando l'accesso è vietato o bloccato ai trattori / mezzi per lavori nel bosco. ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Val Camonica
2015-06-09 10:20 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: La Val Camonica, in particolare la parte bassa ha tante strade non mappate, addirittura interi paesi. Ci sono passato di fretta in auto sulla vecchia statale e, inserendo alcune nuove rotonde dal tracciato GPX, mi sono accorto che la mappatura è scarsa. Per caso ho visto che Artogne (http://osm.org/go/0CsPmNUl?layers=Cm=) è praticamente non mappato. Sembra un bel posto per una mapping party. E' troppo bella la zona per fare armchair mapping. http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artogne se qualcuno organizza io partecipo volentieri e aiuto nell'organizzazione Purtroppo è un po' lontano per me. Saluti estivi Volker Padova -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[OSM-talk-fr] Zone de rencontre sur grand axe routier
Salut, Ce sujet va parler de Zone de rencontre. Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_de_rencontre Ce type de voie de circulation est balisé ainsi : highway=living_street https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bicycle#Zones_de_rencontre À Nancy, il existe une place nommée Place des Vosges, qui est devenu une zone de rencontre depuis un ou deux ans. Sont concernées ces voies : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/246800436 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38212477 Il semblerait que je sois en désaccord avec un certain jfnif sur la façon de baliser ces chemins. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jfnif Lui préfère conserver une cohérence générale du réseau routier, laisser les statuts primary et secondary sur les deux rues : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France_roads_tagging#Grands_axes_de_circulation.2C_rues_principales Moi je suis plutôt pour ajouter le statut zone de rencontre, car c'est bien plus qu'une limitation de vitesse à 20 km/h. C'est aussi la possibilité aux piétons de pouvoir traversé sans passage clouté même s'il y en a un à moins de 50 mètres. Les vélos peuvent aussi emprunter la partie oneway à contre sens. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 Étant donné que tout deux avons des arguments valables, la question est : qui a les meilleurs ?! Cordialement. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Sentieristica CAI
2015-07-14 14:49 GMT+02:00 Marco Barbieri marcobarbi...@webmapp.it: In particolare io collaboro con la sezione per la creazione e mantenimento della Mappa dei Monti Pisani: http://www.mappadeimontipisani.org/demo/ Il progetto prevede il rilievo di tutti i sentieri e popolamento della banca dati su osm. bel rendering, Marco! -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tag per sfasci e depositerie?
Il 10/07/2015 11:30, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: sent from a phone Am 10.07.2015 um 11:20 schrieb Fabrizioerfab...@gmail.com: C'è qualche tag per gli sfasciacarrozze? E per i depositi dove i carrattrezzi della municipale portano le auto rimosse? c'è un tag suggerimento http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Tag:industrial%3Dauto_wrecker può andare Per il deposito http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Depot potrebbe andare anche se nella descrizione parla solo di tram, autobus e treni poi è un valore di landuse, non di industrial landuse=depot depot=towed_vehicle (illegal_parked_cars ? LOL ) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
Actually creating built-up areas from OSM data is fraught with problems:
the basic one, being that OSM landuse/landcover is too fine-grained for
identifying built-up areas. This is one of the examples in my category of
'emergent data': data which is sort of there, but is actually quite hard to
create from the way it's mapped in OSM at the moment. Generally, I believe
if people want such data they should add it to OSM, rather than expect
people to do complex data wrangling which may not work: an analogy might be
streets mapped as areas, the ways are still needed.
Obviously there are other issues::
- Incomplete data (easy to fix, map it).
- Landuse categories which are typically urban in non-urban situations
(various kinds of industrial, extensive grounds of private schools etc).
- Little gaps in well-mapped urban fabric (could be filled by a step of
positive negative buffering).
The Heidelberg folk tried using data mining (Rapid Miner) to identify urban
areas some time ago: clusters of residential roads, lower speed limits,
lit=yes, sidewalk=both, and probably a few others are the types of tags
which could be used.
In many ways built-up areas are actually more useful than many of the
landuse/landcover categories we already use : at least for more general
applications, such as the more sophisticated cartography discussed here.
Jerry
On 14 July 2015 at 09:36, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Dan S wrote:
Sounds good. Mind if I ask how it is done? (i.e. rendering rules
for rural vs town)
Post-import, I run a couple of queries along the lines of
UPDATE planet_osm_point SET urban=true FROM built_up_areas WHERE
ST_Contains(built_up_areas.geom,way)
using a pre-existing 'built_up_areas' table which contains polygons of,
well, built-up areas. I use OS Open Data for the polygons but you could no
doubt construct them from OSM landuse if that floats your boat.
The Mapnik stylesheet queries then simply respond to that column:
#poi[type='pub'][urban=true][zoom=15],
#poi[type='pub'][urban=false][zoom=13] {
...rendering rules...
}
cheers
Richard
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Re: [Talk-de] Schule: landuse=residential oder amenity=school? [war: Re: Umfrage (Entwurf) zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen]
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:24:49PM +0200, malenki wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 22:33:36 +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote: D.h. das amenity=school liegt auf welchem landuse? Multipolygon und aus dem landuse ausstanzen? Dort gibt es keine Wohnbebauung. Soll man erst eine mittels landuse=residential erdichten, um eine Schule malen zu dürfen?. Ich würde es erstmal ohne landuse reinbasteln - Muss ja nicht überall was drunter sein. Am ende reicht ja das amenity um es findbar zu machen und auch um es vernuenftig zu rendern. Ich würde nur nie eine Schule aus dem umgebenden landuse=residential ausnehmen. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de We need to self-defense - GnuPG/PGP enable your email today! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zone de rencontre sur grand axe routier
Tiens, je viens d'avoir le même cas pour la première fois il y a deux jours… Lui préfère conserver une cohérence générale du réseau routier, laisser les statuts primary et secondary sur les deux rues : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France_roads_tagging#Grands_axes_de_circulation.2C_rues_principales +1 avec Jean-François. La cohérence du réseau me semble prendre le dessus sur la description de la zone de rencontre par le tag principal highway. On ne taggue pas pour le routeur, mais garder cette cohérence me semble essentielle, dont pour le routeur en particulier. Après, vient la question d'indiquer la zone de rencontre. Le maxspeed=20 est un élément, cycleway=opposite peut être un complément (si non interdit). Est-ce qu'il en faut plus ? Genre source:maxspeed avec le code du panneau (bon, j'aime pas ce tag, mais enfin…). JB. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Sentieristica CAI
A proposito di sezioni CAI che adottano OSM quale vera e propria piattaforma per la gestione dei dati sulla sentieristica, mi sento di poter chiamare in causa la sezione del CAI di Pisa. Attualmente stanno lavorando sul territorio dei Monti Pisani. Questa è la pagina wiki osm relativa alla situazione dei sentieri in Toscana: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toscana/Sentieri Come vedete sono riportati i sentieri dei Monti Pisani. In particolare io collaboro con la sezione per la creazione e mantenimento della Mappa dei Monti Pisani: http://www.mappadeimontipisani.org/demo/ Il progetto prevede il rilievo di tutti i sentieri e popolamento della banca dati su osm. Ciao, Marco -- *Marco Barbieri* Cartografo www.webmapp.it marcobarbi...@webmapp.it +39 347 683 03 13 Via Paladini, 4 50053 Empoli - Firenze Ditta individuale P. Iva 06366160486 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zone de rencontre sur grand axe routier
Bonjour, Pour moi, c'est toi qui as raison : le nouveau statut de zone de rencontre change complètement le type de voie (highway=living_street, comme tu le dis au début de ton mail). Ne pas utiliser ce tag, c'est ne plus être en cohérence avec la réalité sur le terrain. C'est aussi tromper les calculateurs d'itinéraires pour voitures, qui continueront à faire passer par là alors que c'est plutôt déconseillé, pour un automobiliste. Le 14 juillet 2015 14:20, Axelos axe...@broman.fr a écrit : Salut, Ce sujet va parler de Zone de rencontre. Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_de_rencontre Ce type de voie de circulation est balisé ainsi : highway=living_street https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bicycle#Zones_de_rencontre À Nancy, il existe une place nommée Place des Vosges, qui est devenu une zone de rencontre depuis un ou deux ans. Sont concernées ces voies : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/246800436 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38212477 Il semblerait que je sois en désaccord avec un certain jfnif sur la façon de baliser ces chemins. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jfnif Lui préfère conserver une cohérence générale du réseau routier, laisser les statuts primary et secondary sur les deux rues : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France_roads_tagging#Grands_axes_de_circulation.2C_rues_principales Moi je suis plutôt pour ajouter le statut zone de rencontre, car c'est bien plus qu'une limitation de vitesse à 20 km/h. C'est aussi la possibilité aux piétons de pouvoir traversé sans passage clouté même s'il y en a un à moins de 50 mètres. Les vélos peuvent aussi emprunter la partie oneway à contre sens. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 Étant donné que tout deux avons des arguments valables, la question est : qui a les meilleurs ?! Cordialement. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Francescu ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 11:01 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Pfiffig wäre eben Flächen und Wege komplett getrennt zu behandeln. Im JOSM z.b. als seperate Layer die man nicht verbinden KANN. es gibt doch durchaus Flächen die richtigerweise auf der Straßenmitte enden (bzw. waterway), z.B. admin boundaries in manchen Fällen, ggf. auch place Grenzen, PLZ-Grenzen, ... Den verstehe ich nicht? Wann endet ein Waterway in der Mitte der Straße?!? Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de We need to self-defense - GnuPG/PGP enable your email today! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-ro] Ne apucam de relatii ? Incepem cu Drumurile Nationale ?
Ne apucam de relatii ? Ce ziceti ? Pentru Romania
Acum avem undeva la 95% din Drumurile Nationale din Romania puse pe harta,
dar la relatii, cred ca avem maxim 10-15%, iar multe relatii nu sunt
complete pentru ca nu este inclus un roundabout sau o bucata de drum.
Am compilat o lista cu toate relatiile de drumuri nationale care au si o
relatie in OSM ( la sfarsitul textului )
Avem acest wiki unde putem adauga link-ul relatiei dupa ce verificam daca
este complet sau nuhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DrumuriNationale
Ca sa verificam, mai intai cautam in osm relatia , iar relation ID il bagam
in DN15 http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation…
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fra.osmsurround.org%2FanalyzeRelation%3FrelationId%3D1201916%26_noCache%3Donh=8AQFhF8jEenc=AZPryhbxy-DaI0bFpHGKSL18152QS519w7y-OiG6cBikxqGTuC5d9pFgOnr74MkQ1cXQlr5liDEAJv04X8UQFUuIE0wLKRMQZeBBCFcSKwwQAFlmyMJGRKivjZxExoS8k503PtxybqIALR05AmXrhYUevn9AeoS7Ixq-jAbZz08Tvws=1
ca sa vedem daca este o relatie ok, aici putem vedea si vizual, pe o harta,
cum arata relatia si unde este intrerupta.
De exemplu DN1 este intrerupt in 29 de locatii, peste 60 % fiind la
sensurile giratorii, unde lumea nu stie cum sa adauge o relatie, taie
poentru a modifica drumul, dar nu adauga si relatia.
DN1 http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation…
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fra.osmsurround.org%2FanalyzeRelation%3FrelationId%3D38256%26_noCache%3Donh=eAQHkKc0Tenc=AZMtCBJuSjDB5ZN6ixpePLayVWFiKmvQ9oPhuvmKk0teOKYMrWV0qtxePA-nEuyJ9xFNu9DIzjHBtZwZm3DZbvEO7u0yc5MXEUuNs8N9RHIBLKxUiWeDtlvSYclfpgniUTG9amYWnP7ZDBwOeGiWXUbaXtmUXTNIeBd-4zjK_HNHqws=1
Apoi, cand gasim relatia unui drum ( Relation ID ) , il adaugam in wiki ,
sub forma {{Relation|38256}}
De exemplu inainte era gol
|align=center|COMPLETE
|align=center|COMPLETE {{Relation|38256}}
DN
DN1
DN11A
DN13
DN13E
DN14
DN14A
DN15
DN15A
DN15E
DN16
DN17
DN17C
DN17D
DN18
DN18B
DN19
DN19B
DN19D
DN1C
DN1F
DN1G
DN1H
DN1P
DN1R
DN2
DN22
DN22A
DN23
DN23A
DN29A
DN29B
DN29D
DN2E
DN2F
DN3
DN3B
DN3D
DN54
DN54A
DN55A
DN57
DN57B
DN58B
DN5B
DN6
DN64
DN64A
DN65B
DN66
DN67C
DN68A
DN7
DN73
DN73C
DN74
DN74A
DN75
DN76
DN7A
DN7C
DN7D
E 574
E 576
E 578
E 58
E 584
E 60
E 671
E 68
E 70
E 771
E 79
E 81
E 85
E 87
M25
M25.1
M3
M7
M7.1
М-15
М-19
М-26
Н-09
Н-10
Т-16-07
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zone de rencontre sur grand axe routier
Bonjour, Même situation à la Roche Sur Yon : une zone de rencontre créée devant la gare coupe en 2 une voie secondary. Oui c'est moche d'avoir une coupure de niveau de voie mais c'est la réalité du terrain et la façon imparfaite de classer les voies dans OSM. Retirer highway=living_street serait nier la réalité de la décision municipale et la signalisation présente sur le terrain. Donc highway=living_street. George Le 14 juil. 2015 à 14:20, Axelos axe...@broman.fr a écrit : Salut, Ce sujet va parler de Zone de rencontre. Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_de_rencontre Ce type de voie de circulation est balisé ainsi : highway=living_street https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bicycle#Zones_de_rencontre À Nancy, il existe une place nommée Place des Vosges, qui est devenu une zone de rencontre depuis un ou deux ans. Sont concernées ces voies : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/246800436 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38212477 Il semblerait que je sois en désaccord avec un certain jfnif sur la façon de baliser ces chemins. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jfnif Lui préfère conserver une cohérence générale du réseau routier, laisser les statuts primary et secondary sur les deux rues : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France_roads_tagging#Grands_axes_de_circulation.2C_rues_principales Moi je suis plutôt pour ajouter le statut zone de rencontre, car c'est bien plus qu'une limitation de vitesse à 20 km/h. C'est aussi la possibilité aux piétons de pouvoir traversé sans passage clouté même s'il y en a un à moins de 50 mètres. Les vélos peuvent aussi emprunter la partie oneway à contre sens. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 Étant donné que tout deux avons des arguments valables, la question est : qui a les meilleurs ?! Cordialement. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
Il 07/14/2015 12:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: una strada sterrata nel bosco è quasi sempre ad uso forestale, che ci va anche gente per divertirsi non cambia nulla credo Cambia il fatto che c'e' un cartello che indica che quella e' una ciclopedonale. ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zone de rencontre sur grand axe routier
Question épineuse. J'ajoute une question en complément: -est-ce qu'il est toujours justifié de faire passer une primary par là? En d'autres termes, est-ce que quand on traverse la ville, on passe toujours par là? Certes, à Nancy, la rue des Quarte Eglises étant en sens unique, il n'est pas possible de l'emprunter dans les deux sans pour éviter la place des Vosges et la rue St Dizier. Néanmoins, je pense qu'il faut se reposer la question du plan d'ensemble de circulation de la ville. Quand je vois le plan de la ville, je trouve qu'il y a beaucoup de primary alors même qu'il y a un contournement autoroutier/express. Mes 0,02 € Eric ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-br] RES: RES: OSM - CNEFE
Oi Lucas, ótimo trabalho (!), assim que sobrar um tempo (algum final de semana) ponho a mão-na-massa, para entender o que voce fez e como podemos conversar mais tecnicamente ;-) (se tiver ilustrações, ex. UML, de modelo de dados para postar no git também ajuda) Como sou novato, pretendo seguir um pouco pelas bordas e no escopo mais geral das discussões... A ideia geral do projeto de Mapa-do-CEP ainda é rascunho mas pode ser apreciada em http://wiki.okfn.org/Open_Knowledge_Brasil/Mapa-do-CEP que tal começarmos pelo CEP2? - - - - Quanto os problemas legais (direitos autorais reclamados pela ECT bem como lei do monopólio) , precisamos de apoio internacional, inclusive da OSM... Comecei a busca por essa discussão (link abaixo), e senti receptividade, *http://opendata.stackexchange.com/q/5600/1313 http://opendata.stackexchange.com/q/5600/1313* a parte juridica é importante para não jogarmos nosso tempo no lixo... Até onde conversei com advogados, se criarmos uma metodologia (algoritmos) para espacialização do CEP (ver links Wikipedia com preliminares), não tem problema algum: o primeiro a publicar é o autor... Por isso acho importante termos resultado a curto prazo de um projeto-piloto com OSM e publicarmos no http://arxiv.org Em 14 de julho de 2015 11:13, Lucas Ferreira Mation lucasmat...@gmail.com escreveu: Pessoal, estou colocando o que já tenho de código em: https://github.com/lucasmation/osm_cnefe_import (que perdoe a lingua portuguesa, escrevi em ingles para poder pegar mais feedback dos desenvolvedores do OSM no mundo, foruns, etc) Peter, bem vindo. Eu usei mesmo esta pergunta do gis.stackexchange. E elaborei em cima. Esta questão de dois lados do mesmo seguimento de rua teremo o mesmo CEP eu poderia explorar para melhorar o paramento, mesmo em quadras não pareadas. Mas o quão certo, 100% é isso? abs Lucas 2015-07-13 19:01 GMT-03:00 Peter Krauss ppkra...@gmail.com: Oi gente, acabo de me inscrever na lista... Posso participar da discussão? Eu tenho interesse no mapeamento do CEP e do CNEFE, que justamente ajudam a resolver ambiguidades e dar mais confiança à geocodificação... Até onde verifiquei, o Mapa-do-CEP não oferece problema jurídico... Postei um esboço metodológico da sua construção, na Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code#Codes_defined_indirectly_to_administrative_borders que acham? Alguem falou em quadras por aqui, é justamente o foco metodológico... http://gis.stackexchange.com/q/80498/7505 PS: sobre pontos de endereçamento de utilidade publica, um bom projeto de referencia é o http://adresse.data.gouv.fr/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-it] Google Suspends Map Maker After Pranks
Il 05/12/2015 07:10 AM, Pietro Blu Giandonato scrisse: Non so se avete letto la notizia [1]. Al di là dello scherno :] si tratta di una situazione interessante. Edit riapre con controllori regionali: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/07/14/1247252/google-to-reopen-maps-to-user-edits-with-an-anti-abuse-plan ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-br] RES: RES: OSM - CNEFE
Pessoal, estou colocando o que já tenho de código em: https://github.com/lucasmation/osm_cnefe_import (que perdoe a lingua portuguesa, escrevi em ingles para poder pegar mais feedback dos desenvolvedores do OSM no mundo, foruns, etc) Peter, bem vindo. Eu usei mesmo esta pergunta do gis.stackexchange. E elaborei em cima. Esta questão de dois lados do mesmo seguimento de rua teremo o mesmo CEP eu poderia explorar para melhorar o paramento, mesmo em quadras não pareadas. Mas o quão certo, 100% é isso? abs Lucas 2015-07-13 19:01 GMT-03:00 Peter Krauss ppkra...@gmail.com: Oi gente, acabo de me inscrever na lista... Posso participar da discussão? Eu tenho interesse no mapeamento do CEP e do CNEFE, que justamente ajudam a resolver ambiguidades e dar mais confiança à geocodificação... Até onde verifiquei, o Mapa-do-CEP não oferece problema jurídico... Postei um esboço metodológico da sua construção, na Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_code#Codes_defined_indirectly_to_administrative_borders que acham? Alguem falou em quadras por aqui, é justamente o foco metodológico... http://gis.stackexchange.com/q/80498/7505 PS: sobre pontos de endereçamento de utilidade publica, um bom projeto de referencia é o http://adresse.data.gouv.fr/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-pt] Erro da tradução do OSM oara PT e agradecimentos
Olá Topo Lusitania, Queria antes de mais agradecer o elogio! De resto, já alterei a tradução em questão. [1] [1] http://i.imgur.com/N8L9mxE.png No dia 14 de julho de 2015 às 12:30, Topo Lusitania Lusitania topolusita...@yahoo.com escreveu: Fazendo uma busca por Caminho Português no OSM obtemos algumas destas mensagens: - - Estrada Florestal ou Agrícula Caminho Português, Maxial, Santarém, Portugal - Estrada Florestal ou Agrícula Caminho Português, Atalaia, Santarém, Portugal - Estrada Florestal ou Agrícula Caminho Portugues, Águas Belas, Santarém, Portugal Certamente por erro a teclar, Agrícola está erradamente escrito como Agrícula. Uma correcção urgente é necessária Os nossos agradecimentos ao Marcos Oliveira pelas dicas e rapidez na resposta sobre os Pontos esquecidos A equipa TopoLusitania ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt -- Um Abraço, Marcos Oliveira ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
Moin, Am 14.07.2015 um 11:01 schrieb Florian Lohoff: Pfiffig wäre eben Flächen und Wege komplett getrennt zu behandeln. Im JOSM z.b. als seperate Layer die man nicht verbinden KANN. Dazu müsste/könnte man zwei Klassen von Objekten einführen. Einmal die Objekte die dazu dienen einen Graphen zu beschreiben (z.B. Wege mit highway=unclassified, railway=rail, waterway=stream etc, einige Knoten mit barrier=*, restriction-Relationen etc) und dann natürlich solche Objekte, die die genaue(re) Lage von Objekten beschreiben (alle Objekte mit natural=*, barrier=fence auf Wegen, Grenzen, Küstenlinien, die meisten amenity-Objekte etc). Ich habe auch schon einmal gesehen, dass einen Friedhof als Fläche erfasst und die Knoten dann mit der benachbarten Straße verbunden und (nun das eigentliche Problem) die Fläche zusätzlich mit barrier=fence getaggt wurde. Ich wäre mir als Mapper nicht ganz so sicher, dass die Knoten auf denen der Weg mit dem Zaun liegt, als passierbar interpretiert werden. Viele Mapper haben diese beiden unterschiedlichen Objektklassen im Hinterkopf und mappen auch genau so. Vielleicht wäre es deshalb didaktisch sinnvoller, dieses Problem für Anfänger zumindest zu thematisieren. Zwei Ebenen in den Editoren einzuführen wäre vielleicht zu hart. LG Tobias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 14:47 schrieb emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Cambia il fatto che c'e' un cartello che indica che quella e' una ciclopedonale io avevo capito che mancava e che c'è soltanto un preavviso Altrimenti si dovrebbe vedere se il traffico forestale è consentito o meno ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tag per sfasci e depositerie?
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 13:29 schrieb Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: potrebbe andare anche se nella descrizione parla solo di tram, autobus e treni si, dovrebbe cambiare (visto che è in fase draft potrebbe essere possibile), intanto aggiungerei un commento nel proposal, sia per i veicoli parcheggiati che per la parola service che non sta bene nel tuo contesto. ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Valori multipli per highway
Il 07/14/2015 05:35 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: io avevo capito che mancava e che c'è soltanto un preavviso boh. Io non ho visto un secondo cartello, ma non lo stavo cercando. Qualcuno sa se i segnali con pannello integrativo di distanza valgono anche se manca il segnale nel punto di inizio? Altrimenti si dovrebbe vedere se il traffico forestale è consentito o meno Quando ci ripasso te lo dico. ;.) ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
Ciao! Ho dato un’occhiata ai dati e devo riformulare la domanda, ho dei csv che contengono nomi di città italiane e attributi, da cui devo creare un layer di punti. Avevo pensato a overpass per estrarre i punti e poi fare join; la query funziona ma non mi esporta tutte le città che sono nei csv, come faccio: 1 rifaccio la query su overpass comprendendo anche le città più piccole; 2 esiste un servizio, open e free, di geocoding in cui inserire cvs e ottenere geojson GRAZIE A TUTTI L From: sim...@cortesi.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:51:29 +0200 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ? 2015-07-14 11:43 GMT+02:00 Luca Moiana luca_moi...@hotmail.com: Esiste qualche tutorial per imparare la sintassi? la documentazione non mi è stata di aiuto. nel wizard trova tutte le parole che siano definite come sintassi in iD: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo/Wizard#Intelligent_Wizard -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tag per sfasci e depositerie?
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 13:29 schrieb Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: landuse=depot depot=towed_vehicle (illegal_parked_cars ? LOL ) io metterei un amenity tipo towed_vehicle_depot (da verificare), perché vedo landuse come attributo e non come feature ciao Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 14:34 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Den verstehe ich nicht? Wann endet ein Waterway in der Mitte der Straße?!? gemeint war, dass bei waterways ein ähnliches Problem besteht weil die auch sowohl als Graph als auch als Flächen gemappt werden Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-br] Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções.
Marcio Ja vendo no OSRM que ha algum coisas ajudando, por exemplo ele não mais sair no estrada do chão para o ES-060, mas continua no BR-101 ate o Trevo do Guarapari, também chegando Vitoria ele não mais utilizando Reta da Penha (Avenida N.S. da Penha), mas pego o Avenida Dante Michelini ate Avenida Norte - Sul. Isso indicando que aumentar as semáforos no Reta da Penha deu certo, agora preciso fazer levantamento nos avenidas NS dos Navegantes, Dante Michelini e Norte-Sul para adicionar os semáforos ali Alem disso, o discussão no meu issue do OSRM [0] deu ideia do penalizar vias urbanas, por exemplo redução do velocidade onde passa pelo landuse=residential. Isso não vai resolve roteamento nos aparelhos mas pode ajuda em planejamento antes de viagem. Tambem mandou emails para o grupo de cartografia Garmin para tenta entender roteamento nos aparelhos. Se ha algum coisas que pode fazer no stylesheets ou nos dados para melhorar isso. Ainda não ha resposta do Garmin. Se pode ajudar com roteamento, precisamos um etiqueta de garafamento, o 3° Ponte geralmente tem garafamento pelo manha e tarde, em ambos sentidos, e deve ser evitado menus por roteamento entre VV/VIX. Mesmo precisamos mais levantamento/dados para resolver isso. [0] https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/1414 On 7/14/15, thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br wrote: Aun, infelizmente meu tempo anda escasso devido aos preparativos para uma longa viagem que farei pelo Espirito Santo, com estimada de saída na próxima quarta-feira, mesmo assim não poderia deixar de responder e opinar sobre sua mensagem. Sabemos que o roteamento leva em consideração diversos, fatores entretanto não podemos deixar de considerar que dentre esses fatores o mais importante é a classe da via quando não configurada com velocidade máxima. Não configurada com velocidade o sistema emprega a default para aquela classe e, consequentemente, o roteamento opta pela via de classe mais elevada. Na minha opinião um editor não deve somente levar em consideração o padrão quando esse bem conhece a região que está mapeando. O bom senso deve atuar na classificação da vias. Bem sabemos que a rota de Iconha para Serra, ou vice versa, é mais rápida em se trafegando pela BR-101 até porque construíram a BR-101 Estrada do Contorno para desafogar o transito de cruzamento por dentro de Vila Velha e da grande Vitória. Não podemos e não devemos analisar friamente os resultados de diferença de tempo trafegando pela BR-101 ou pelas vias urbanas de Vitória e Vila Velha. O volume de tráfego, semáforos e outros limitadores de velocidade nunca permitirão o desenvolvimento da velocidade máxima permitida na via. Não podemos também deixar de levar em consideração que uma é rodovia e as outras são vias urbanas. []s Marcio -Mensagem Original- From: Aun Johnsen Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:47 PM To: OSM talk-br Subject: [Talk-br] Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções. Eu postando isso porque um assunto um bom tempo atras onde o Marcio (Thundercel) reclamou sobre problemas de roteamento no Espírito Santo, principalmente trecho BR-101 Guarapari - Serra, onde roteamento sair do BR e passa ES-060 no municípios Gurapari - Vila Velha - Vitória. Desde o discussão anterior eu tentei investigar isso, esse mensagem pode vira TL;DR, mas se voce ha problemas de roteamento (principalmente urbano) deve continuar ler aqui. Em abril eu passei os trechos mencionados various vezes e gravou para analise. Esse fim de semana eu passei fazer analise dos trechos siguntes: BR-101 Trevo Guarapari - ES-060 Contorno Guarapari - Pedágio Guarapari/VV - Terceira Ponte VV/VIX, e Contorno Guarapari sentido Anchieta. Resultado esse analize: 3 radares adicionado (2 de 80km/h localiçado entre Guarapari e VV, e um de 60km/h a frente do presidio no Contorno Guarapari sentido Anchieta), adicionou trecho do velocidade reducido a frente posto Policia Militar Galpao do Transito nº 13 em Barra do Jucu/Vila Velha, 150 metros de 40km/h em acordo com dados recolidos no Mapillary, e uns 10-15 semáforos Quando o assunto fui levantado primeira vez, o diferencia em distance e tempo no um rota do teste entre Iconha e Serra [0] deu trecho urbano 2km mais curto e 5 minutos mais rápido. Ontem testei mesmo trecho de novo (antes do mandar os últimos mudanças) e ha 2km e 3 minutos diferencia entre os dois. Meu calculo baseado por conhecimento do perfil de roteamento do OSRM [1] indicando que aumento ~60 segundos o tempo passa o setor urbano, então credito que o OSRM ainda vai me manda pelo ES-060. Tentei investigar como o roteamento funciona dentro aparelhos (prioridade das estradas, penalidade do obstáculos e trevos entre outro), isso e um segredo bem guardado, mas pelo quem uso aparelhos do Garmin com mapas do OpenStreetMap, maioria desses e criados por aplicativo mkgmap [2], e segundo documentação mkgmap traduzindo nossos etiquetas para os
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 06:03:37PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 14:34 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Den verstehe ich nicht? Wann endet ein Waterway in der Mitte der Straße?!? gemeint war, dass bei waterways ein ähnliches Problem besteht weil die auch sowohl als Graph als auch als Flächen gemappt werden Richtig - bei Waterways ist das Thema aber gelöst. Wir mappen ways und zusätzlich die Flächen. Hauptsächlich da wo es sich lohnt. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de We need to self-defense - GnuPG/PGP enable your email today! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-br] Esqueleto de projeto para classificação de vias urbanas
Gerald, mesmo existindo um padrão, sou de opinião que devemos revisa-lo, indentificando se algo nele requer melhoramento. Como a maioria sabe nos dedicamos a disponibilização do mapa Cocar que é produzido pela extração da base OSM os dados importantes para navegação GNSS automotiva. O roteamento provido pelos dados é por nós considerado como importante e por isso constantemente temos identificado falhas de roteamento devido a classificações indevidas de vias urbanas no OSM. Já identificamos que em roteamento os aplicativos levam em consideração diversos fatores, entretanto o mais importante e de peso maior entre eles é a classe de via seguida da velocidade configurada. Na página http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:How_to_map_a#Recomenda.C3.A7.C3.A3o_atual_.28esquema_br2013.29 apresentada identificamos propostas e não um padrão definido para o Brasil que tem a malha viária com características diferentes de muitos outros países. Está sendo comum identificarmos falhas de roteamento simplesmente porque o editor configurou a via em uma classe elevada, porém formatou a velocidade dela bem abaixo de uma esperada para aquele tipo de via. Sou de opinião que deveríamos explorar mais esse assunto na tentativa de um padrão que mais se assemelhe a realidade brasileira, sabendo que dificilmente se poderá estabelecer um padrão que permita retratar a realidade e o perfeito funcionamento dos inúmeros aplicativos que irão se valer daquele padrão. []s Marcio From: Gerald Weber Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 2:22 PM To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Esqueleto de projeto para classificação de vias urbanas Oi Ivaldo já temos um padrão: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:How_to_map_a#Recomenda.C3.A7.C3.A3o_atual_.28esquema_br2013.29 o que falta? abraço Gerald 2015-07-12 19:19 GMT-03:00 Ivaldo Nunes de Magalhães ivald...@gmail.com: Saudações a todos. Apesar de não estar com muito tempo, gostaria de iniciar uma discussão sobre classificação de vias urbanas (tema espinhoso, mas urgentemente necessário, devido falta de um padrão). Isso porque estou trabalhando na delimitação dos bairros de Campo Grande/MS - cidade onde resido - e já me deparei até com Auto Estrada no meio da cidade, quando sabemos que isso não existe. Tenho corrigido algumas coisas, mas é complicado trabalhar sem parâmetros. Além de correções e classificação de vias não ser o meu foco no osm, as vezes acabo fazendo (como agora) porque no andamento de um projeto não dá para se omitir ao ver algo incorreto ou fora do padrão, embora ele ainda não esteja definido. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
Am 14.07.2015 um 12:51 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: es gibt doch durchaus Flächen die richtigerweise auf der Straßenmitte enden (bzw. waterway), z.B. admin boundaries in manchen Fällen, ggf. auch place Grenzen, PLZ-Grenzen, ... Aber es gibt auch Beispiele dafür, dass speziell Grenzen und der Straßen-Graph nicht miteinander kompatibel sind: https://osm.org/note/108134 Das gleiche Problem hat man auch bei Waterways: waterway reicht bis weit in das Wasser eines anderen Gewässers z.B. eines großen Flusses, auch wenn solche Wege schon am Ufer hätten enden können. Lässt man das Stück zwischen Ufer und Flussmitte unbenannt, ist der Graph unvollständig, weil ein unbanntes Gewässer in de Fluss fließt. LG Tobias ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Zone de rencontre sur grand axe routier
Bonjour, Le 14/07/2015 14:20, Axelos a écrit : Ce sujet va parler de Zone de rencontre. Pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_de_rencontre Ce type de voie de circulation est balisé ainsi : highway=living_street https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bicycle#Zones_de_rencontre À Nancy, il existe une place nommée Place des Vosges, qui est devenu une zone de rencontre depuis un ou deux ans. Sont concernées ces voies : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/246800436 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38212477 Il semblerait que je sois en désaccord avec un certain jfnif sur la façon de baliser ces chemins. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jfnif Lui préfère conserver une cohérence générale du réseau routier, laisser les statuts primary et secondary sur les deux rues : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France_roads_tagging#Grands_axes_de_circulation.2C_rues_principales Moi je suis plutôt pour ajouter le statut zone de rencontre, car c'est bien plus qu'une limitation de vitesse à 20 km/h. C'est aussi la possibilité aux piétons de pouvoir traversé sans passage clouté même s'il y en a un à moins de 50 mètres. Les vélos peuvent aussi emprunter la partie oneway à contre sens. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160200246 Étant donné que tout deux avons des arguments valables, la question est : qui a les meilleurs ?! moi, bien sûr ;) Blague à part, je pense qu'il y a contradiction entre primary et zone de rencontre. Au demeurant, tout comme Eric, je pense que le centre ville de Nancy est trop densément tagué en primary. Lors de ma correction je n'avais pas voulu toucher à cet aspect car n'étant pas très au fait de la circulation nancéienne, il me semblait plus judicieux de laisser les contributeurs locaux s'en occuper. Bon 14 Juillet, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-br] Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções.
Aun, infelizmente meu tempo anda escasso devido aos preparativos para uma longa viagem que farei pelo Espirito Santo, com estimada de saída na próxima quarta-feira, mesmo assim não poderia deixar de responder e opinar sobre sua mensagem. Sabemos que o roteamento leva em consideração diversos, fatores entretanto não podemos deixar de considerar que dentre esses fatores o mais importante é a classe da via quando não configurada com velocidade máxima. Não configurada com velocidade o sistema emprega a default para aquela classe e, consequentemente, o roteamento opta pela via de classe mais elevada. Na minha opinião um editor não deve somente levar em consideração o padrão quando esse bem conhece a região que está mapeando. O bom senso deve atuar na classificação da vias. Bem sabemos que a rota de Iconha para Serra, ou vice versa, é mais rápida em se trafegando pela BR-101 até porque construíram a BR-101 Estrada do Contorno para desafogar o transito de cruzamento por dentro de Vila Velha e da grande Vitória. Não podemos e não devemos analisar friamente os resultados de diferença de tempo trafegando pela BR-101 ou pelas vias urbanas de Vitória e Vila Velha. O volume de tráfego, semáforos e outros limitadores de velocidade nunca permitirão o desenvolvimento da velocidade máxima permitida na via. Não podemos também deixar de levar em consideração que uma é rodovia e as outras são vias urbanas. []s Marcio -Mensagem Original- From: Aun Johnsen Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:47 PM To: OSM talk-br Subject: [Talk-br] Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções. Eu postando isso porque um assunto um bom tempo atras onde o Marcio (Thundercel) reclamou sobre problemas de roteamento no Espírito Santo, principalmente trecho BR-101 Guarapari - Serra, onde roteamento sair do BR e passa ES-060 no municípios Gurapari - Vila Velha - Vitória. Desde o discussão anterior eu tentei investigar isso, esse mensagem pode vira TL;DR, mas se voce ha problemas de roteamento (principalmente urbano) deve continuar ler aqui. Em abril eu passei os trechos mencionados various vezes e gravou para analise. Esse fim de semana eu passei fazer analise dos trechos siguntes: BR-101 Trevo Guarapari - ES-060 Contorno Guarapari - Pedágio Guarapari/VV - Terceira Ponte VV/VIX, e Contorno Guarapari sentido Anchieta. Resultado esse analize: 3 radares adicionado (2 de 80km/h localiçado entre Guarapari e VV, e um de 60km/h a frente do presidio no Contorno Guarapari sentido Anchieta), adicionou trecho do velocidade reducido a frente posto Policia Militar Galpao do Transito nº 13 em Barra do Jucu/Vila Velha, 150 metros de 40km/h em acordo com dados recolidos no Mapillary, e uns 10-15 semáforos Quando o assunto fui levantado primeira vez, o diferencia em distance e tempo no um rota do teste entre Iconha e Serra [0] deu trecho urbano 2km mais curto e 5 minutos mais rápido. Ontem testei mesmo trecho de novo (antes do mandar os últimos mudanças) e ha 2km e 3 minutos diferencia entre os dois. Meu calculo baseado por conhecimento do perfil de roteamento do OSRM [1] indicando que aumento ~60 segundos o tempo passa o setor urbano, então credito que o OSRM ainda vai me manda pelo ES-060. Tentei investigar como o roteamento funciona dentro aparelhos (prioridade das estradas, penalidade do obstáculos e trevos entre outro), isso e um segredo bem guardado, mas pelo quem uso aparelhos do Garmin com mapas do OpenStreetMap, maioria desses e criados por aplicativo mkgmap [2], e segundo documentação mkgmap traduzindo nossos etiquetas para os etiquetas road_class e road_speed, ambos usando numero decimais entre 0 e 7. Para mkgmap não dar diferencia se o velocidade da estrada e 60km/h ou 50km/h, e conhecendo esse eu entendo um pouco mais sobre roteamento no aparelho. Pelo perfil do OSRM e muito mais fácil arrumar problemos, porque os valores e em aberto. OSRM usando um formula para achar o velocidade certo. Se não ha maxspeed, ele divinando um valor baseado por tipo highway, depois reduzindo isso baseado por tipo de superfície e smoothness. No Garmin pelo que entendo o road_class e road_speed junto com um bandeira se e pavimentado ou não. Parecendo que o valor padrão do pavimentação e pavimentada, assim para pode utilizar o opção evitar estradas de terra no aparelho e muito importante que o etiquete surface= tem valor, unpaved/paved e suficiente, e no verdade fora desses valores somente sett ou cobblestone faz sentido nas estradas. Eu nao conseguindo achar penalidade do semáforos, placas de para, e outros obstáculos de transito no Garmin, no OSRM ha 2 segundos penalidade por semáforos. Pelo que intendo o mkgmap somente ligando o etiqueta highway=traffic_signal com o simbolo do semaforo, e depende do aparelho para dar o penalidade. Para melhorar o roteamento e importante tenta entender o que símbolos que dar penalidade, e identificar o que etiqueta no OSM representando esse símbolo. Esses símbolos pode ou não ser gráficos. Não
Re: [Talk-at] Anrainer access=private oder access=destination?
On 2015-07-14 11:06, Walter Nordmann wrote On 2015-07-14 09:00, Friedrich Volkmann wrote On 14.07.2015 08:28, Michael Reichert wrote a lot of people on the forum wrote ich hab nach zwei Seiten Thread aufgegeben. warum haben wikis nur diese unglaubliche Tendenz zu sinnfreien Diskussionen? da setz ich mich lieber auf die Couch und male ein paar Häuserl von geoimages ab. ansonsten kann man auch einfach mal einen Fehler einsehen und sich für einen Revert bedanken.. ..meint der grubernd ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
Hi, Super dann können wir lanuse mit highway area verkleben und die straße in ruhe lassen ist das nich die lösung? Gruß Sent using a qwertz keyboad Originalnachricht Von: Martin Koppenhoefer Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Juli 2015 18:30 An: Florian Lohoff Antwort an: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch Cc: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.) sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 18:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Richtig - bei Waterways ist das Thema aber gelöst. Wir mappen ways und zusätzlich die Flächen. Hauptsächlich da wo es sich lohnt. bei highways ist das im Prinzip auch so, nur dass noch nicht so viel gemappt ist, vielleicht auch, weil area:highway derzeit nicht gerendert werden kann? Sobald das gerendert wird, werden wir sicherlich in vielen Städten das auch mappen. Macht halt an vielen Stellen (ausserorts) auch kaum Sinn, weil man die sowieso kaum in Zoomstufen ansieht, wo die Flächen nicht unter den überhöhten Straßengraphen verschwinden würden - außer vielleicht um topologisch die landuses wohin zu verbinden;-) Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 18:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Richtig - bei Waterways ist das Thema aber gelöst. Wir mappen ways und zusätzlich die Flächen. Hauptsächlich da wo es sich lohnt. bei highways ist das im Prinzip auch so, nur dass noch nicht so viel gemappt ist, vielleicht auch, weil area:highway derzeit nicht gerendert werden kann? Sobald das gerendert wird, werden wir sicherlich in vielen Städten das auch mappen. Macht halt an vielen Stellen (ausserorts) auch kaum Sinn, weil man die sowieso kaum in Zoomstufen ansieht, wo die Flächen nicht unter den überhöhten Straßengraphen verschwinden würden - außer vielleicht um topologisch die landuses wohin zu verbinden;-) Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-GB] Survey: A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group?
Well done setting up the survey Rob. Good to see something happening. I think we should get our asses in gear and start forming some sort of organisation. I was surprised your survey didn't have a question What d'you think the organisation should be called?, because this is the question which has been vexing me. It would be quite interesting to know what name and geographic configuration most people would vote for. OSMGB or OSMUK? It's not just a matter a geo/naming preference. There's quite a few existing named things to consider. This mailing list being one example. I've listed various things here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GB/UK_Chapter#GB_vs_UK_summary Down the pub with TomH and gravitystorm we seemed to be preferring OSMUK last time we chatted about this, although since then I've started hosting osmgb.org.uk on my server (a minor point in OSMGB's favour) Of course we could call it something else entirely, but both OSMGB and OSMUK are nice short simple names. Harry From: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, 14 July 2015, 9:37 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Survey: A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group? I agree; I don't really see what harm a UK group would have; after all, there are local OSM groups in other countries, so why not here? No-one's being asked to stump up money for servers etc just yet; it's just an initial survey. Nick From: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net Sent: 13 July 2015 19:08 To: Dave F.; Andy Mabbett; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Survey: A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group? Dave, I don't think anyone has a veto. Why would it harm you if this went ahead? On 13 July 2015 19:00:56 GMT+01:00, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Find out first if people want it, rather than ask how they think it should be implemented. On 13/07/2015 14:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 13 July 2015 at 12:39, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: there's no option to disagree with the whole proposal What else do you suppose the Strongly disagree column is for? (Though how you expect disagreement with a group of people deciding to start an organisation to stop them is beyond me) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb Cheers, Chris User chillly Blog http://chris-osm.blogspot.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.)
Hm, Den landuse highway mit banket den mit graben und den mit nem feld Radweg or whatever zu verkleben wäre imo logisch an. Gruß Originalnachricht Von: Martin Koppenhoefer Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Juli 2015 19:34 An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch Antwort an: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zu Kleben von Landnutzungsflächen an Straßen (bis 11.8.) sent from a phone Am 14.07.2015 um 19:19 schrieb tob...@antifuse.de: Super dann können wir lanuse mit highway area verkleben und die straße in ruhe lassen ist das nich die lösung? in der Stadt sollte das normalerweise so sein (landuse highway und area:highway identisch), auf dem Land ist die rechtliche Straße (landuse) oft größer als die asphaltierte Fläche (Entwässerung, Abstandsflächen, Böschungen etc.), den sonstigen landuse würde man eher mit ersterem verbinden wollen (kann man ja auch schätzen wenn das nicht auf den cm erkennbar ist) Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
On 13 July 2015 at 08:53, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: The significant (and massive) disused railway viaduct near Thrapston: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/264894970 does not render on our default map However, this viaduct of comparable size, does: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4929040 The only significant difference seems to be that the latter is tagged: railway=disused rather than abandoned. In actual fact, unused would be more appropriate, as it was never used. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 2 Interesting Post in the Belgium Forum
Marc Gemis schreef op 14/07/2015 om 21:48: Recently there were 2 interesting posts about mapping projects. One was about 3D mapping, the other about highway areas. Since not a lot of people read the forum, I take the liberty to cross post them here: (note that many links will be broken due to the copy, read the forum thread to get the correct links) On 3D http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31791 Dear friends, I realize, there is no one 3D model in your capitol: http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=50.8475882l … 48zoom=17 Specification hotw to use is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Nice examples see: e.g. Nuremberg, New York, Warszawa. Maybe you could try it? With best regards, Marek On Highway areas: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31896 Dear OSM Friends from Belgium, it is surprise for me but my proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Prop … treet_area is already over 15.000 times used in the map and in 5 languages avaiable. See: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search … %3Ahighway The russian OSM community did more and has already prepared a special map which shows streets as areas in highest zoom level: http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=18/55.7722 … 69layer=K I discuss with some guys responsible for mapnik about implementation of this feature on the main OSM page. Of course, you can map it only, if you have aerial images in very good resolution. An example cold be this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360455846 With summer regards, Marek ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Wat betekent dat is mensentaal? On Highway areas Is dat van toepassing dat randen van wegen in multipolygoon moeten komen? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [newbie] Deux questions sur mode édition avec ID
Shohreh wrote J'ai trouvé : il faut zoomer suffisamment, et des points apparaissent: http://s4.postimg.org/4ywbs11tp/OSM_zoom_points.png Bonjour J'ai à nouveau le problème : OSM contient bien une boutique vélo rue Lafayette mais après être passé en mode édition puis avoir zoomé au maximum, l'objet n'apparaît toujours pas: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=20/48.88199/2.36811 Pourquoi? Comment faire pour le voir et modifier ses attributs? Merci. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/newbie-Deux-questions-sur-mode-edition-avec-ID-tp5841089p5850168.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] sens interdit sauf riverain
Sachant qu'un oneway=yes définit un sens unique, qu'un accès réservé aux riverains est acess=destination, un sens unique sauf riverains c'est : oneway=yes opposite=destination ou : oneway=yes destination:oneway=no ou : oneway=yes le local de l'étape saura qu'il peut passer ;-). autre ? Jean-Yvon ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-at] Anrainer access=private oder access=destination?
Ah, der Forums-Missionar ist wieder da. Immer wieder eine Freude. Schöne Anti-Werbung. nebulon42 Am 2015-07-14 um 11:06 schrieb Walter Nordmann: @Liste: Umgekehrt: Den Editwar hat Nop begonnen, und von ihm ist auch der letzte Edit. Und das ist gut so. An der Diskussion hat er sich auch nicht beteiligt, http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=515742#p515742 und PNs beantwortet er auch nicht. Nur eine Vermutung: Manche Mapper haben auch noch ein Privatleben. Gefällt dir meine Haarfarbe nicht? Was du auf den Zähnen hast, ist mir eigentlich völlig egal. Du solltest schon sagen, in welchem Punkt du anderer Meinung bist und warum Soweit ich den Text von Michael verstehe, werden deine Kollegen darüber informiert, dass im Forum eine Diskussion zu deiner Meinung und deinen Änderungen durchgeführt wird. Es kann sich jeder, der will, DORT beteiligen. Daher ist ein Zitieren oder gar weiteres Diskutieren hier unnnötig. Man kann das Forum ohne Registrierung benutzen. Lesen geht ohne Anmeldung, Schreiben nur mit. Anmelden kann man sich mit dem OSM-Account und dem OSM-Passwort. Gruss walter ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-de] öffentliche OSMF-Sitzung am 20.7.
Hallo, am 20.7. um 21:30 deutscher Zeit gibt es eine öffentliche Sitzung des OSMF-Vorstands. Jeder kann per Mumble (das vielen hier vom Radio OSM schon bekannt sein wird) teilnehmen. Teilnehmen heisst hier im wesentlichen zuhören, Für den OSMF-Vorstand ist das eine Übung in Transparenz - die Vorstandssitzungen sind ja normal nicht öffentlich und vermutlich wird auch nicht komplett umgestellt, aber man überlegt, ob wir vielleicht abwechselnd öffentliche und nichtöffentliche Sitzungen machen sollen oder so. Jetzt beim ersten Mal wird bestimmt auch nicht alles perfekt laufen, ist für den Vorstand ja auch neu, aber ich hoffe, der/die eine/andere wird sich dafür interessieren und einschalten. Anleitung zum Mumble: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble Server: talk.hotosm.org Port: 64738 Eine Agenda für die Sitzung steht noch nicht fest, wer allerdings etwas draufsetzen will, kann an Paul Norman (secret...@osmfoundation.org) schreiben. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
2 esiste un servizio, open e free, di geocoding in cui inserire cvs e ottenere geojson Secondo me meglio se usi qgis con il plugin mmqgis e ti attacchi a nominatim ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [newbie] Deux questions sur mode édition avec ID
Trouvé : c'était en fait l'immeuble d'à côté, et la boutique est indiqué comme un des points de l'objet plutôt qu'un objet indépendant comme les autres commerces autour. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/newbie-Deux-questions-sur-mode-edition-avec-ID-tp5841089p5850169.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?
On 14 July 2015 18:47:21 GMT+01:00, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com wrote: addr:county doesn't seem to be used a lot (only ~600 according to taginfo). I think part of the reason addr:county (646) is populated so little compared to addr:city (20404) is that there is a field presented for city, but not county. More than that, there is no reason to set addr:county anywhere in Ireland, for the same reason that addr:country is not needed: because the countr?y multipolygons cover the whole territory. Adding an addr:country/county/city tag is only usefull for addresses not inside the corresponding MP. Revently, rather than adding addr:city everywhere, I added a city MP around Kilkenny for that reason (I hadn't done that before because there's no official city boundary that i onow of, but an approximation is better than nothing). Concerning Eircode, I wonder about the sanity of attempting to replicate that db in osm by puting addr:postcode on every node (indeed I dont think that eircode is sane to begin with). Is maping only eircode postal districts (as polygons) useful ? It'd be comparatively trivial. -- Vincent Dp ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-it] Come estrarre le Città italiane da overpass ?
14.07.2015 - 18:25 - Luca Moiana: Ciao! Ho dato un’occhiata ai dati e devo riformulare la domanda, ho dei csv che contengono nomi di città italiane e attributi, da cui devo creare un layer di punti. Avevo pensato a overpass per estrarre i punti e poi fare join; la query funziona ma non mi esporta tutte le città che sono nei csv, come faccio: 1 rifaccio la query su overpass comprendendo anche le città più piccole; 2 esiste un servizio, open e free, di geocoding in cui inserire cvs e ottenere geojson GRAZIE A TUTTI L Se vuoi fare con overpass usa questa query che estrae i place=city e place=town: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/aqK Ciao Damjan ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 2 Interesting Post in the Belgium Forum
De bedoeling is inderdaad om de hele straat oppervlakte in kaart te brengen. Een beetje zoals de GRB kaarten van AGIV al te zien is. Ik heb nog een 7-tal vragen/opmerkingen op de forum thread geplaatst omdat de specificatie me ook niet helemaal duidelijk is en er volgens mij ook wat fouten in staan. Marek komt uit de 3D rendering wereld, voor hen is de echte breedte van een straat belangrijk, dus vandaar zijn vraag (vermoed ik). Als je een realistisch beeld wil weergeven moet je weten waar de straat eindigt, waar de stoep ligt enz. In zijn proposal legt hij dit ook uit en ook waarom width niet altijd voldoet of bruikbaar is. Verder is er op de Duitse mailing list een hele discussie aan de gang ivm met landuse/landcover polygonen die vastliggen aan de ways van de straten. Daar is deze proposal (area:highway feitelijk) ook weer aan bod gekomen (om de gaten tussen 2 landuses op te vullen). Mogelijks is zijn post daar ook een gevolg van. Hopelijk verduidelijkt dit een en ander. Niemand moet zich natuurlijk verplicht voelen om dit te gaan mappen. Ik speel dit enkel maar door in de hoop dat er iemand ergens iets van opsteekt. mvg m On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Jakka vdmfrank...@gmail.com wrote: Marc Gemis schreef op 14/07/2015 om 21:48: Recently there were 2 interesting posts about mapping projects. One was about 3D mapping, the other about highway areas. Since not a lot of people read the forum, I take the liberty to cross post them here: (note that many links will be broken due to the copy, read the forum thread to get the correct links) On 3D http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31791 Dear friends, I realize, there is no one 3D model in your capitol: http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=50.8475882l … 48zoom=17 Specification hotw to use is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Nice examples see: e.g. Nuremberg, New York, Warszawa. Maybe you could try it? With best regards, Marek On Highway areas: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31896 Dear OSM Friends from Belgium, it is surprise for me but my proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Prop … treet_area is already over 15.000 times used in the map and in 5 languages avaiable. See: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search … %3Ahighway The russian OSM community did more and has already prepared a special map which shows streets as areas in highest zoom level: http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=18/55.7722 … 69layer=K I discuss with some guys responsible for mapnik about implementation of this feature on the main OSM page. Of course, you can map it only, if you have aerial images in very good resolution. An example cold be this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360455846 With summer regards, Marek ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be Wat betekent dat is mensentaal? On Highway areas Is dat van toepassing dat randen van wegen in multipolygoon moeten komen? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] 2 Interesting Post in the Belgium Forum
Recently there were 2 interesting posts about mapping projects. One was about 3D mapping, the other about highway areas. Since not a lot of people read the forum, I take the liberty to cross post them here: (note that many links will be broken due to the copy, read the forum thread to get the correct links) On 3D http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31791 Dear friends, I realize, there is no one 3D model in your capitol: http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=50.8475882l … 48zoom=17 Specification hotw to use is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings Nice examples see: e.g. Nuremberg, New York, Warszawa. Maybe you could try it? With best regards, Marek On Highway areas: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31896 Dear OSM Friends from Belgium, it is surprise for me but my proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Prop … treet_area is already over 15.000 times used in the map and in 5 languages avaiable. See: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search … %3Ahighway The russian OSM community did more and has already prepared a special map which shows streets as areas in highest zoom level: http://openstreetmap.ru/#map=18/55.7722 … 69layer=K I discuss with some guys responsible for mapnik about implementation of this feature on the main OSM page. Of course, you can map it only, if you have aerial images in very good resolution. An example cold be this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360455846 With summer regards, Marek ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative
On 14/07/15 00:57, Dave Corley wrote: Hi all, So there has been a great response to this, with close to 70 suggestions for improvements, so thank you all for giving your time to this, it is greatly appreciated. I have opened the document now for people to add their names under the authors field on the front page. Erm, how about Contributors, rather than authors... you are the primary author. Regards John ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-it] Sentieristica CAI
Marco Barbieri wrote Questa è la pagina wiki osm relativa alla situazione dei sentieri in Toscana: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toscana/Sentieri Come vedete sono riportati i sentieri dei Monti Pisani. In particolare io collaboro con la sezione per la creazione e mantenimento della Mappa dei Monti Pisani: http://www.mappadeimontipisani.org/demo/ Il progetto prevede il rilievo di tutti i sentieri e popolamento della banca dati su osm. Ciao, Marco -- *Marco Barbieri* Cartografo Mi associo ai complimenti Marco. Quella mappa è a dir poco spettacolare :-) veramente ben fatto! - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Sentieristica-CAI-tp5848856p5850170.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] sens interdit sauf riverain
Bonjour oneway:conditional=no @ destination oneway=yes Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?
The size of those polygons would be too large to be of much use to anyone for anything I fear. I had a play around on the eircode site tonight and it's honestly going to be a mess to ever make use of the data especially when it comes to apartment buildings where you will have dozens of Eircodes inside it. They did well designing it this way, ensures that it will be such a costly burden to maintain that it's unlikely to ever be opened up. Future revenues guaranteed. Dave On 14 Jul 2015 22:23, moltonel molto...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 July 2015 18:47:21 GMT+01:00, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com wrote: addr:county doesn't seem to be used a lot (only ~600 according to taginfo). I think part of the reason addr:county (646) is populated so little compared to addr:city (20404) is that there is a field presented for city, but not county. More than that, there is no reason to set addr:county anywhere in Ireland, for the same reason that addr:country is not needed: because the countr?y multipolygons cover the whole territory. Adding an addr:country/county/city tag is only usefull for addresses not inside the corresponding MP. Revently, rather than adding addr:city everywhere, I added a city MP around Kilkenny for that reason (I hadn't done that before because there's no official city boundary that i onow of, but an approximation is better than nothing). Concerning Eircode, I wonder about the sanity of attempting to replicate that db in osm by puting addr:postcode on every node (indeed I dont think that eircode is sane to begin with). Is maping only eircode postal districts (as polygons) useful ? It'd be comparatively trivial. -- Vincent Dp ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative
Thanks all for the last few suggested changes I've gone with John's suggestion and listed everyone who contributed as a contributor regardless of how big or small the contribution with the exception of whoever signed in as Its Muck. Let me know your actual name if you want it added whoever you are, you had some good input I'll be sending this off shortly Thanks again to all who gave input, it was greatly appreciated Dave On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 9:26 PM, John Ronan jpron...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/07/15 00:57, Dave Corley wrote: Hi all, So there has been a great response to this, with close to 70 suggestions for improvements, so thank you all for giving your time to this, it is greatly appreciated. I have opened the document now for people to add their names under the authors field on the front page. Erm, how about Contributors, rather than authors... you are the primary author. Regards John ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-it] [OT] si fidano di Google Maps e i fans di Google vanno allo stadio di Este invece che di Padova
...E poi c'è chi sostiene che le mappe di Google sono quanto di meglio sulla piazza! :-p MAx -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OT-si-fidano-di-Google-Maps-e-i-fans-di-Google-vanno-allo-stadio-di-Este-invece-che-di-Padova-tp5850112p5850179.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
We could take that line of thought further. A viaduct/bridge etc actually has nothing to do with a railway per se. It’s a structural object in its own right. What we should be doing is rendering the bridge structure first and then if appropriate putting a way over the top if the structure is in use in some way - whether original railway (current or disused), unofficial footpath or designated cycleway etc. Vauxhall/Bordesley Viaduct in Birmingham was built to carry a railway over it but was never used because the rail connection was never made. Its currently tagged as railway=disused but that’s not really true. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Andy Townsend [mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 July 2015 21:31 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct On 14/07/2015 20:24, Andy Mabbett wrote: The only significant difference seems to be that the latter is tagged: railway=disused rather than abandoned. In actual fact, unused would be more appropriate, as it was never used. It looks like it was recently changed from abandoned to disused. Call me a cynic, but I wonder if that was someone simply tagging for the renderer? If there are no in-situ rails, it's not disused. Cheers, Andy. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4821 / Virus Database: 4365/10222 - Release Date: 07/13/15 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
Actually it was pmailkey who changed the tags on that structure a few months back and did other incorrect changes to what's left of the viaduct. I've now reverted. -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 July 2015 22:24 To: 'Andy Townsend'; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct We could take that line of thought further. A viaduct/bridge etc actually has nothing to do with a railway per se. It’s a structural object in its own right. What we should be doing is rendering the bridge structure first and then if appropriate putting a way over the top if the structure is in use in some way - whether original railway (current or disused), unofficial footpath or designated cycleway etc. Vauxhall/Bordesley Viaduct in Birmingham was built to carry a railway over it but was never used because the rail connection was never made. Its currently tagged as railway=disused but that’s not really true. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Andy Townsend [mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 July 2015 21:31 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct On 14/07/2015 20:24, Andy Mabbett wrote: The only significant difference seems to be that the latter is tagged: railway=disused rather than abandoned. In actual fact, unused would be more appropriate, as it was never used. It looks like it was recently changed from abandoned to disused. Call me a cynic, but I wonder if that was someone simply tagging for the renderer? If there are no in-situ rails, it's not disused. Cheers, Andy. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4821 / Virus Database: 4365/10222 - Release Date: 07/13/15 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4821 / Virus Database: 4365/10222 - Release Date: 07/13/15 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-de] öffentliche OSMF-Sitzung am 20.7.
Am 14.07.2015 um 23:24 schrieb Frederik Ramm: am 20.7. um 21:30 deutscher Zeit gibt es eine öffentliche Sitzung des OSMF-Vorstands. [...] Für den OSMF-Vorstand ist das eine Übung in Transparenz Aus meiner Sicht ist dies ausdrücklich zu begrüßen! Ein Lob an den OSMF-Vorstand dass er nach den Diskussionen Ende letzten Jahres erste Schritte zu einem besseren Miteinaner zwischen Community und OSMF (bzw. Vorstand der OSMF) unternimmt. Transparenz und Offenheit ist IMHO in einem nichtkommerziellen FLOSS-Projekt eines der wichtigsten Güter... Grüße, Michael. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Google Suspends Map Maker After Pranks
E' sicuramente merito di Vasco http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OT-si-fidano-di-Google-Maps-e-i-fans-di-Google-vanno-allo-stadio-di-Este-invece-che-di-Padova-td5850112.html ! :-p Max -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Google-Suspends-Map-Maker-After-Pranks-tp5844285p5850180.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[talk-ph] designing a 2 pager handout about OSM and OSM-PH
Its good to have some printouts/handouts about OSM and the OSM-PH community we can distribute during trainings and events. Anybody interested to design one? For some inspiration, we had this during our Pampanga project [0] [0] http://essc.org.ph/content/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/ESSC_WBDRR_Flyer_FINAL.pdf -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Mapper in Cebu?
Hello OSM community, Does anyone know of local mappers in Cebu, especially Cebu City? I have a few specific questions for them if so! Thanks! -Lu -- -Lu Sevier The College of William and Mary *http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lu-sevier/84/236/725 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lu-sevier/84/236/725* ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?
On 14 July 2015 22:51:42 GMT+01:00, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: The size of those polygons would be too large to be of much use to anyone for anything I fear. The routing key alone can in theory help uniquify an adress, but I dont know how often that's true. I had a play around on the eircode site tonight and it's honestly going to be a mess to ever make use of the data especially when it comes to apartment buildings where you will have dozens of Eircodes inside it. Yeah, and of course all the letterboxes in those appartments will be labeled with their coresponding eircode to avoid confusion... Or one could write the name of the recipcient (madness !) and that way any of the building's eircodes can be used to reach any of the buiding's appartments :p They did well designing it this way, ensures that it will be such a costly burden to maintain that it's unlikely to ever be opened up. Future revenues guaranteed. There's still hope that the crapyness is obvious enough that eventually nobody will continue using eircode. Next time I'm sending a snailmail I'll put an openpostcode on the envelope. -- Vincent Dp ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct
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Re: [Talk-br] Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções.
Aun, na minha opinião o que está penalizando o roteamento são as classes de vias urbanas e as velocidades. Cito isso porque no mapa Cocar o roteamento está semelhante ao visto pelo OSRM e nele não compilamos semáforos porque para navegação automotiva Garmin esses não são úteis. São úteis os semáforos com câmera, os que tem sensor de avanço. Com isso posso deduzir que os semáforos, pelo menos para roteamento Garmin, não influenciam porque em nosso mapa Cocar eles não existem e, consequentemente, o roteamento não os considera empregando esse mapa no GPS. -Mensagem Original- From: Aun Johnsen Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 1:09 PM To: OpenStreetMap no Brasil Subject: Re: [Talk-br]Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções. Marcio Ja vendo no OSRM que ha algum coisas ajudando, por exemplo ele não mais sair no estrada do chão para o ES-060, mas continua no BR-101 ate o Trevo do Guarapari, também chegando Vitoria ele não mais utilizando Reta da Penha (Avenida N.S. da Penha), mas pego o Avenida Dante Michelini ate Avenida Norte - Sul. Isso indicando que aumentar as semáforos no Reta da Penha deu certo, agora preciso fazer levantamento nos avenidas NS dos Navegantes, Dante Michelini e Norte-Sul para adicionar os semáforos ali Alem disso, o discussão no meu issue do OSRM [0] deu ideia do penalizar vias urbanas, por exemplo redução do velocidade onde passa pelo landuse=residential. Isso não vai resolve roteamento nos aparelhos mas pode ajuda em planejamento antes de viagem. Tambem mandou emails para o grupo de cartografia Garmin para tenta entender roteamento nos aparelhos. Se ha algum coisas que pode fazer no stylesheets ou nos dados para melhorar isso. Ainda não ha resposta do Garmin. Se pode ajudar com roteamento, precisamos um etiqueta de garafamento, o 3° Ponte geralmente tem garafamento pelo manha e tarde, em ambos sentidos, e deve ser evitado menus por roteamento entre VV/VIX. Mesmo precisamos mais levantamento/dados para resolver isso. [0] https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/1414 On 7/14/15, thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br wrote: Aun, infelizmente meu tempo anda escasso devido aos preparativos para uma longa viagem que farei pelo Espirito Santo, com estimada de saída na próxima quarta-feira, mesmo assim não poderia deixar de responder e opinar sobre sua mensagem. Sabemos que o roteamento leva em consideração diversos, fatores entretanto não podemos deixar de considerar que dentre esses fatores o mais importante é a classe da via quando não configurada com velocidade máxima. Não configurada com velocidade o sistema emprega a default para aquela classe e, consequentemente, o roteamento opta pela via de classe mais elevada. Na minha opinião um editor não deve somente levar em consideração o padrão quando esse bem conhece a região que está mapeando. O bom senso deve atuar na classificação da vias. Bem sabemos que a rota de Iconha para Serra, ou vice versa, é mais rápida em se trafegando pela BR-101 até porque construíram a BR-101 Estrada do Contorno para desafogar o transito de cruzamento por dentro de Vila Velha e da grande Vitória. Não podemos e não devemos analisar friamente os resultados de diferença de tempo trafegando pela BR-101 ou pelas vias urbanas de Vitória e Vila Velha. O volume de tráfego, semáforos e outros limitadores de velocidade nunca permitirão o desenvolvimento da velocidade máxima permitida na via. Não podemos também deixar de levar em consideração que uma é rodovia e as outras são vias urbanas. []s Marcio -Mensagem Original- From: Aun Johnsen Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:47 PM To: OSM talk-br Subject: [Talk-br] Roteamento urbano, falta do etiquetas e soluções. Eu postando isso porque um assunto um bom tempo atras onde o Marcio (Thundercel) reclamou sobre problemas de roteamento no Espírito Santo, principalmente trecho BR-101 Guarapari - Serra, onde roteamento sair do BR e passa ES-060 no municípios Gurapari - Vila Velha - Vitória. Desde o discussão anterior eu tentei investigar isso, esse mensagem pode vira TL;DR, mas se voce ha problemas de roteamento (principalmente urbano) deve continuar ler aqui. Em abril eu passei os trechos mencionados various vezes e gravou para analise. Esse fim de semana eu passei fazer analise dos trechos siguntes: BR-101 Trevo Guarapari - ES-060 Contorno Guarapari - Pedágio Guarapari/VV - Terceira Ponte VV/VIX, e Contorno Guarapari sentido Anchieta. Resultado esse analize: 3 radares adicionado (2 de 80km/h localiçado entre Guarapari e VV, e um de 60km/h a frente do presidio no Contorno Guarapari sentido Anchieta), adicionou trecho do velocidade reducido a frente posto Policia Militar Galpao do Transito nº 13 em Barra do Jucu/Vila Velha, 150 metros de 40km/h em acordo com dados recolidos no Mapillary, e uns 10-15 semáforos Quando o assunto fui levantado primeira vez, o diferencia em distance e tempo no um rota do teste entre Iconha e Serra [0] deu trecho
[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Talk-de] öffentliche OSMF-Sitzung am 20.7.
On Monday evening, you can follow a meeting of the OSMF for the first time. Details to connect are at the bottom of the forwarded mail. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: 2015-07-14 23:24 GMT+02:00 Subject: [Talk-de] öffentliche OSMF-Sitzung am 20.7. To: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk...@openstreetmap.org Hallo, am 20.7. um 21:30 deutscher Zeit gibt es eine öffentliche Sitzung des OSMF-Vorstands. Jeder kann per Mumble (das vielen hier vom Radio OSM schon bekannt sein wird) teilnehmen. Teilnehmen heisst hier im wesentlichen zuhören, Für den OSMF-Vorstand ist das eine Übung in Transparenz - die Vorstandssitzungen sind ja normal nicht öffentlich und vermutlich wird auch nicht komplett umgestellt, aber man überlegt, ob wir vielleicht abwechselnd öffentliche und nichtöffentliche Sitzungen machen sollen oder so. Jetzt beim ersten Mal wird bestimmt auch nicht alles perfekt laufen, ist für den Vorstand ja auch neu, aber ich hoffe, der/die eine/andere wird sich dafür interessieren und einschalten. Anleitung zum Mumble: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble Server: talk.hotosm.org Port: 64738 Eine Agenda für die Sitzung steht noch nicht fest, wer allerdings etwas draufsetzen will, kann an Paul Norman (secret...@osmfoundation.org) schreiben. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [talk-ph] Mapper in Cebu?
username:totor is subscribed here. Ask away! On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Lu Sevier lmsev...@email.wm.edu wrote: Hello OSM community, Does anyone know of local mappers in Cebu, especially Cebu City? I have a few specific questions for them if so! Thanks! -Lu -- -Lu Sevier The College of William and Mary http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lu-sevier/84/236/725 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: Mapper in Cebu?
Should be in the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Lu Sevier lmsev...@email.wm.edu Date: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Mapper in Cebu? To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Wonderful! The AidData Summer Fellows, the fellowship I am working with here in PH is going to Cebu City on the weekend of Aug. 1st to teach a Spatial thinking training. We are working with the organization http://www.passerellesnumeriques.org/philippines/. They have quite a few students who want to be trained. Also, we want to reach out to anyone in the OSM community that is there and invite them to attend. Anyone in the OSM community is welcome to join us however we don't have funding as fellows to help with transportation :) On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:38 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: username:totor is subscribed here. Ask away! On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Lu Sevier lmsev...@email.wm.edu wrote: Hello OSM community, Does anyone know of local mappers in Cebu, especially Cebu City? I have a few specific questions for them if so! Thanks! -Lu -- -Lu Sevier The College of William and Mary http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lu-sevier/84/236/725 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- -- -Lu Sevier The College of William and Mary http://www.linkedin.com/pub/lu-sevier/84/236/725 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/maningsambale -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Mapper in Cebu?
Lu Sevier wrote on Wednesday, 15 July, 2015 11:36 AM: Hello OSM community, Does anyone know of local mappers in Cebu, especially Cebu City? I have a few specific questions for them if so! Maybe this might help? http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=14lat=10.3144388lon=123.9152493layers=B00FTTF :-) Jim -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
