Re: IMAP AV

2005-04-29 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello Gary,

just now (on 04/29/2005 at 00:28) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For beta 19, and 20, after using TB! for awhile, I start getting the
 attached AV. This always seems to happen after I have started deleting
 email.

I've never seen this so far.

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Reading confirmation bug

2005-04-29 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi,


In the reading confirmation section of the account set up
dialog box I chose ignore but nevertheless, each time someone has the
confirm receipt activated on its part, a reading confirmation is
auto send, have you noticed this ?

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IMAP: Empyt trash on exit - doesn't work

2005-04-29 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hey All,

is it a known bug, that empty trash folder on exit doesn't work for
IMAP accounts?
My trash folder is the servers trash folder. I delete all outgoing
lists message by filter when they are sent.
1. Why aren't the deleted in the way I defined normal deletion, but
   are moved to trash?
2. Why is trash folder not emptied on exit?

Filter goes:
- Delete the message from server  Delete the message

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Re: The Bat! 3.09.20 beta bug persists

2005-04-29 Thread Claude Renaud
Bonjour Marek,

Le jeudi 28 avril 2005 à 22:22:47, vous écriviez :

MM Hello all,
MM Thursday, April 28, 2005, Claude Renaud wrote:

 Even with this version, on two different computers, when I
 exit the bat! it remains in the process task list and I'm obliged to
 kill it manually, because if I don't do that, I can't launch it again

MM what about BayesIt, do You use it? If Yes, try to remove it
MM temporarily and check, if will be TB correctly closed.


Installed but not used at the moment ...

Other suggestions ?


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Virtual folder counts

2005-04-29 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, 

Since moving to 3.0.9.20 virtual folder counts aren't updating
correctly, i.e. message status remains unread unless I use Ctrl-R (or
right-click Refresh.)


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3.0.9.20: New AV

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello all,

When manually marking a message as Read in the message list I got the
following AV and infinite number of times until I killed TB with Task
Manager:

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 00A98480 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0037.
---
OK   
---

As I say, every time I clicked OK I got a new one. So, I had to kell TB
with Task Manager.

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Re: 3.0.9.20: New AV

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hi MAU,  

M When manually marking a message as Read in the message list I got the
M following AV and infinite number of times until I killed TB with Task
M Manager:

M Access violation at address 00A98480 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0037.

Same  as  in  mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , but since
so problem is somewhere in setting flags...

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Delete account generates AV

2005-04-29 Thread Foster, Graham
Hi TBBETA

I created an IMAP account, synced it.. decided it still didn't work as
I wanted (the unread count was always wrong) - so I deleted the
account. This generated an AV...
FYI..

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Problems with Message finder

2005-04-29 Thread Foster, Graham
Hi TBBETA

I have a whole series of issues with message finder, primarily the
weird GUI interaction, lack of search feedback (unless messages are
found) and the anonymous virtual folders you create this way. See
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4528 for more details if you
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Re: Problems with Message finder

2005-04-29 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Graham,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 7:55:51 AM, you wrote:

FG I have a whole series of issues with message finder, primarily the
FG weird GUI interaction, lack of search feedback (unless messages are
FG found) and the anonymous virtual folders you create this way. See
FG https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4528 for more details if you
FG want to support / confirm any of these issues.

Excellent list.

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Re: 3.0.9.20: New AV

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 Same  as  in  mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , but since
 so problem is somewhere in setting flags...

It may be so, Anyway, it has only occurred once to me.

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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hi Peter,  

PFIf messages are automatically filtered from an outbox to an IMAP
PFfolder, the Outbox folder (local or remote) is not unbolded after
PFthe message is sent. In other words, TB! does not know that the
PFmessage has be removed from the outbox. If you select the outbox
PFagain, the bolding disappears. For me this is broken with Exchange
PFand Mailmax. See the thread beginning with
PFmid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Couldn't  reproduce,  may be some other tips? Like immediately sending
or sending batch of mails?

PFAutomatically saved drafts sometimes do not supercede/overwrite
PFprevious versions of same message (Mailmax, remote outbox) = this is
PFprobably due to the connection problem above: The delete flag not set
PFcorrectly as the connection hangs.

That's  strange  issue, sometimes I have no problems, sometimes Outbox
fills  too  fast.  Do you have any anchors like low speed? Or having a
lot of drafts?

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Re: 3.5RC1 a preview of issues to be tested

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hi Peter,  

Thanks,  I thought nobody wants to make bug list clear enough for fast
fixing ;-)

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Re: Counters, .20 and before [was Re: tB 3.09.18, where did the counter go?]

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:55:50 +0200 GMT (29/04/2005, 00:55 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

 Hehehe! I am pleased that you think so. But Thomas may never buy
 either of us a beer, now. ;)

M He owes me enough to fill my bath tub, but he hasn't actually bought me
M any yet. So, what difference does it make? ;-)

If you are talking about me, wait till you come to Bangkok! Or till I
visit Madrid again (@MAU - had a good time last time) or some obscure
state in the US (@Mary). - Hey! I'm a man of my word. I'm not into the
bathtub kind of thingy though, I prefer pubs and actually drinking the
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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hi Peter,  

PFI cannot delete remote folders or make new folders (using Manage
PFIMAP folders). Any new folder is visible in the webmail application
PFof my mail provider - but not in the list in TB!. I also cannot
PFunsubscribe from the folder I previously tried to delete (Mailmax,
PFhave not tried Exchange). The managing of IMAP folders seems
PFunstable. Sometimes restarting TB! helps.

Folder   is  created  and correctly shown after subscribing to it, can
anybody else confirm?

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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005 @ 2:18:43 PM [-0700], Peter Fjelsten wrote:

  There is an issue where the wrong body is sometimes loaded with a
header. I got this when moving from an empty message (just header) to
another full message: the header of the empty message was shown for
the body of the full message. See thread beginning with
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I hadn't seen this one for a while...and then yesterday it reared it's
ugly head again. One of my IMAP folders had about 6 or seven messages
with the correct subject line in the message viewer, but incorrect
subject line in the headers, preview pane, and message body.

A Reload fixed them all.

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Re: IMAP: Empyt trash on exit - doesn't work

2005-04-29 Thread Kevin Amazon
Hi Manuel Breitfeld

-
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, at 09:09:31 [GMT +0200] (which was 12:09 AM where
I live) you wrote:
 Hey All,

 is it a known bug, that empty trash folder on exit doesn't work for
 IMAP accounts?
 My trash folder is the servers trash folder. I delete all outgoing
 lists message by filter when they are sent.
 1. Why aren't the deleted in the way I defined normal deletion, but
are moved to trash?
 2. Why is trash folder not emptied on exit?

 Filter goes:
 - Delete the message from server  Delete the message


Yes it is a known bug. This has never worked. 9Val spent some time on
it a year or so ago and the bug just got lost with all the other
problems with IMAP and TB.
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Re: Counters, .20 and before [was Re: tB 3.09.18, where did the counter go?]

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

 If you are talking about me, wait till you come to Bangkok! Or till I
 visit Madrid again (@MAU - had a good time last time) or some obscure
 state in the US (@Mary). - Hey! I'm a man of my word. I'm not into the
 bathtub kind of thingy though, I prefer pubs and actually drinking the
 stuff.

Yes, I was talking about you.

At this time it looks much much easier that RITLabs fixes all TB
known bugs than I can go to Bangkok :-((

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Re: 3.5RC1 a preview of issues to be tested

2005-04-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Ouwehand  everyone else,

on 28-Apr-2005 at 22:57 you (Peter Ouwehand) wrote:

 Message Finder:

Minor issue; the message finder used to open not only with F7 but with
CTRL-F as well until 3.0.1.33/3.0.2.10 - that shortcut is gone in the
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Re: IMAP: Empyt trash on exit - doesn't work

2005-04-29 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hi Kevin,

just now (on 04/29/2005 at 17:53) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes it is a known bug. This has never worked. 9Val spent some time on
 it a year or so ago and the bug just got lost with all the other
 problems with IMAP and TB.

Thanks for your answer.
9Val, any chance to get this working? Please do so. ;)

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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 8:54:22 AM [-0700], 9Val wrote:

PFI cannot delete remote folders or make new folders (using Manage
PFIMAP folders). Any new folder is visible in the webmail application
PFof my mail provider - but not in the list in TB!. I also cannot
PFunsubscribe from the folder I previously tried to delete (Mailmax,
PFhave not tried Exchange). The managing of IMAP folders seems
PFunstable. Sometimes restarting TB! helps.

 Folder   is  created  and correctly shown after subscribing to it, can
 anybody else confirm?

Confirmed.

Created Test folder using Manage IMAP folders
Subscribed
Folders showed on TB and mail server
Went back to Manage IMAP folders and unsubscribed
Hit Reset
Folder was removed from TB AND mail server

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Re: Counters, .20 and before [was Re: tB 3.09.18, where did the counter go?]

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 18:15:26 +0200 GMT (29/04/2005, 23:15 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M At this time it looks much much easier that RITLabs fixes all TB
M known bugs than I can go to Bangkok :-((

LOL! So it's up to me to go to Madrid... ;-)

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Re: GUI Bugs in 3.0.9.20

2005-04-29 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Stuart,

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

SC 2) When reading messages in the message list and using the space bar
SC   to  move to the next message, it works for reading threads until you
SC   come to a new thread and then it ceases to work.

You're lucky, it just scrolls through ALL messages for me so is useless.
I'd love to have it back so that it just goes to the next unread
message.

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Re: A little roadmap

2005-04-29 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi,

9   29.04TB! 3.5 (Return) Release Candidate 1

Will this be a complete install package that one can use to
atomatically update the latest release version, without manually
fiddling with icon- and settings files, while still keeping all
personal settings made in the previous version?

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Re: 3.5RC1 a preview of issues to be tested

2005-04-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Ouwehand  everyone else,

on 29-Apr-2005 at 19:38 you (Peter Ouwehand) wrote:

ASK Minor issue; the message finder used to open not only with F7 but with
ASK CTRL-F as well until 3.0.1.33/3.0.2.10 - that shortcut is gone in the
ASK 3.0.9.x series.

 Did you try assigning Ctrl-F as shortcut using Customize ?

I know I can do that. I just wanted to point out that it is not the way it
used to be. Personally, I'd expect the keyboard shortcuts not to change
from one version to the other.

(btw. same goes for CTRL-R to reply, this was the first thing I did before
using 3.0.9.x any further, I'm so used to this keyboard shortcut, I can't
possibly use anything else to reply *g*)

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The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hello All,

The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Here is a short list of changes:
[-] Other : AV on saving view mode to newly created
[-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
[-] Minor : improvements in account tree behaviour
[-] Minor : follow-up, selection and 'Open link' 
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  When you delete the last message of a folder in folder view, folder
  view don't close automatically but stays open. (Bug because I don't
  see the sense of empty folder view and it was auto closed in earlier
  versions).
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Status-bar pop-ups in Edit Mail Message window:
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [View | Attached Files] after a restart always indicates
  'Show as Pane' although the actual option used is 'Show as Button'.
  In Main, View Folder and Message Finder windows.
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  In context menu of Folder View: Reply to All quoting selected text
  is missing.
  Also missing in context menu of the Main window and Message Finder
  window.
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Checkmarks in
  [ View | Character set]
  are not remembered between restarts.
[-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  'View folder' window [View | Memo auto view] menu:
  Isn't correct updated, if you close memo auto view with ESC
[-] Moving the menu toolbar in the search Window, hangs the toolbar in
a wrong position


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hi 9Val,  

Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
batskin.xml and restart

And   secodn   -   there could be problem with toolbars menu. It has 2
solutions:
1. complete delete of tbuser.def
2. Robo recipe:
   you should see there something like
   item [unknown].[unknown]
   replace it with
   system item [TOOLBAR_MENU]
   everywhere in tbuser.def

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png

:-(((

That's certainly a pity (and a PITA) for my old tired eyes that have
problems differentiating the slightly different shades of blue of older,
etc.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello MAU,

 problems differentiating the slightly different shades of blue of older,
^folders


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 [-] Minor : follow-up, selection and 'Open link' 

Confirm as fixed.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val,

 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   In context menu of Folder View: Reply to All quoting selected text
   is missing.
   Also missing in context menu of the Main window and Message Finder
   window.

Unless I have missed something on this issue, I can't find Reply to All
quoting selected text in any context menu. On 3.0.9.20 it was at least
available on message list context under Specials.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello 9Val,

 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png

not fixed. I must still use 'batskin.INI' and 'batskin.XML' to manage
the Icons from outside glyph.


The favorite entries are not correctly represented - furthermore not
usable. :(

› mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
› mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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3.5 RC1: Localization in menus not working

2005-04-29 Thread Carsten Meyer
Hello All,

I am using 3.5 RC1 right now, which I upgraded from 3.0.2.8 via
3.0.9.18 and 3.0.9.20 under Win2K-SP4.

Problem here is, that localization within the menus does not work. No
matter, which language I choose, the menus stay english.

However, the Forms / Dialogs get localized to the language I choose
(tried dutch and german).

I think, this is a show stopper for the release, isn't it?!

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Miroslav,

 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
 not fixed. I must still use 'batskin.INI' and 'batskin.XML' to manage
 the Icons from outside glyph.

sorry, my mistake - confirmed as fixed.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 11:16:47 AM [-0700], 9Val wrote:

 Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
 batskin.xml and restart

Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?

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RC1 -- AVs continue on Entering Search

2005-04-29 Thread Richard Newman
Hello Batpeople,

I'm still getting two cascading AVs when entering search, followed by
an AV if I tray to print a message found via search.

In 3.0.9.19 I was pretty consistently getting an AV at 07BF333 in the
Bat.exe. Read of address 0008. The printing AV was at 1A00
with the same 1A00 read address.

In 3.0.9.20 I was pretty consistently getting an AV at 008077D7 in the
Bat.exe. Read of address 0008. The printing AV was at 0001
with the same 0001 read address.

In RC1 the AV addresses seem to be varying but the read address is a
consistent 0008. The printing AV seems to be a consistent 
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3.5RC1 -- Current nits

2005-04-29 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello tbbeta,

  First and FWIW, I like the smaller icons.

  The following items are still problematical:

1.) From the folder list window 'tab' to the message list window,
Ctrl-A selects all the messages (preview window still says no
message selected), delete is not available on the right click
menu nor does the delete key work.  Once any message has been
selected, Ctrl-A / delete works as expected.  FWIW, there are
other options that are also grayed that I would expect to not be.
In particular, 'Move to' is also grayed.  However, unlike Delete,
I can use the mouse to move the selected messages.

2.) Tab order through Folder list - message list - message preview
still stops at ... I think message preview (tough to tell when
nothing is there to see wink).  In addition, it now cycles
through the 'Quick search' list box if that is open.  This is
mostly a nit as far as I am concerned.

4.) Still no Key Assignment menu.  I know that is a 'back burner'
issue, but this is a Release Candidate wink

5.) Access violations: I didn't have any with 9.20 and none yet
with RC1 either. But hopefully this can be crossed off my list
finally g

Those are the only ones I still have left on my list.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Gleason Pace





[-]Other:mixingglyphsandnewpng

:-(((

That'scertainlyapity(andaPITA)formyoldtiredeyesthathave
problemsdifferentiatingtheslightlydifferentshadesofblueofolder,
etc.

This could be the solution for the half icons that were visible throughout the
program. The half icons are now full. But even the toolbar icons are now
small. I like having toolbar icons larger. The little marker icons can be
smaller. Yes, it is hard to tell what the toolbar icons are when they are
so small.


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Miroslav,

 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
 not fixed. I must still use 'batskin.INI' and 'batskin.XML' to manage
 the Icons from outside glyph.
 
 sorry, my mistake - confirmed as fixed.

Do you mean you can use external glyphs?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Simon,

 Attached screen image shows the menu available at this end, can you see this?

Sorry, I was looking for this option on message list context under
Specials.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello George,

 It is on the context menu of the message view pane on the menu Message

Sorry, I never looked there.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Gleason,

 That's certainly a pity (and a PITA) for my old tired eyes that have
 problems differentiating the slightly different shades of blue of older,
 etc.
 
 This could be the solution for the half icons that were visible throughout the
 program.  The half icons are now full.

I never had the half icons problem.

 But even the toolbar icons are now small. I like having toolbar icons
 larger. The little marker icons can be smaller. Yes, it is hard to
 tell what the toolbar icons are when they are so small.

They are the same size as with previous betas for me. Hmmm! Here we go
again with one of those issues/problems that happen to some but not to
others.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Gleason Pace




9Val,

Confirm that icon sizes are not cut in half throughout the program.
Confirm that check box functions are no longer reversed.

Loading the Imap folder hierarchy at program startup remains a problem.
The first time, I get two inboxes with folder lists. Second time I get three,
Third time I get four, etc. Opening the Manage IMAP Folders windows corrects
the situation. After that, TB will return to starting with two lists next time. The
lists at start are no longer scrambled, and are complete except for one folder
containing 42 subfolders.



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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hello Matt,  

MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?

Check both mail directory and exe directory for it


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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hello Gleason,  

GP Confirm  that  icon  sizes  are  not  cut  in  half throughout the
GP program. Confirm that check box functions are no longer reversed.
 
Sorry, don't get both points
 
GP Loading  the  Imap  folder  hierarchy at program startup remains a
GP problem.  The  first  time,  I  get two inboxes with folder lists.
GP Second  time  I  get three, Third time I get four, etc. Opening
GP the  Manage  IMAP  Folders windows corrects the situation. After
GP that,  TB  will return to starting with two lists next time. The
GP lists  at  start  are no longer scrambled, and are complete except
GP for one folder containing 42 subfolders.
 
Do  you  use multiple connections? Does switching to single-connection
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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello MAU,

 Do you mean you can use external glyphs?

Yes, you need only the XML-File. I adapted the XML-File to the new
conditions and it works as I expected it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Miroslav,

 Do you mean you can use external glyphs?
 
 Yes, you need only the XML-File. I adapted the XML-File to the new
 conditions and it works as I expected it.

Would you mind sending me by PM your XML file so I can take a look at
what you've done?

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Jernej Simoncic
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 20:16:47, 9Val wrote:

 Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
 batskin.xml and restart

Is it possible to do anything to get the icons to display with proper colors
when using Office2003 theme?

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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread Allie Martin
Hi 9Val,
  On 29/04/2005 06:36 PM +0300, you wrote:
PFIf messages are automatically filtered from an outbox to an
IMAP PFfolder, the Outbox folder (local or remote) is not
unbolded after PFthe message is sent. In other words, TB! does
not know that the PFmessage has be removed from the outbox. If
you select the outbox PFagain, the bolding disappears. For me
this is broken with Exchange PFand Mailmax. See the thread
beginning with
PFmid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Couldn't  reproduce,  may be some other tips? Like immediately sending
or sending batch of mails?
I can reproduce the bug, however only if I filter to another IMAP 
folder on the server and not to a local folder. Filtering from outbox 
to a local folder is fine.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Cees

Het was op vrijdag 29 april 2005 om 21:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The 
Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available' :

Hallo Peter,
  
PO I'd like to have such smaller icons. How did you do that ??? ;)

 easy: buy yourself a really small screen! ;-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

On Friday, April 29, 2005, 1:16 PM, you wrote:

 Forgot to say. If you'll find something wrong with icon sizes - remove
 batskin.xml and restart

They were indeed too tiny to see. And this did fix that.

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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread Allie Martin
Hi 9Val,
  On 29/04/2005 06:54 PM +0300, you wrote:
Folder   is  created  and correctly shown after subscribing to it, can
anybody else confirm?
Confirmed, though deleting the folder requires a 'Reset' in addition to 
hitting delete.

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Re: Empty space at the end of message list

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Martin,

On Friday, April 29, 2005 at 10:02:47 PM Martin [MS] wrote:

 I think this problem was already reported - but it is still in .20:
 Empty space at the end of the message list, see picture at:
 http://home.tiscali.ch/mynewsgroup/emptyspace.jpg

MS Empty space problem not fixed in 3.5 RC1

Confirmed. And I can even make the space much more. I can, using my
Touchpad, scroll down until only *one* message is show, albeit there
are dozens or hundreds of messages in the list. The same applies to
folder list, which is the more annoying part of this glitch, as
scrolling down this list using my touchpad repeatedly makes me loose
survey ...
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Re: 3.5RC1 a preview of issues to be tested

2005-04-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Ouwehand  everyone else,

on 29-Apr-2005 at 20:08 you (Peter Ouwehand) wrote:

ASK I know I can do that. I just wanted to point out that it is not the
ASK way it used to be. Personally, I'd expect the keyboard shortcuts not
ASK to change from one version to the other.

 Ok, so it's a minor issue you have with the changed shortcuts. In
 general, not just with the Message Finder ...

Yes indeed. Sorry. It just came to my mind with the Message Finder
mentioned by you. :-)


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RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction

2005-04-29 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

For me, the View Folder message list no longer distinguishes read from
unread messages, as it used to before I installed RC1. (The counter in
the Account folder tree counts accurately, but no way to tell by
inspecting the message list itself which messages are yet unread.)

The Unread messages are displayed in regular, not bold, typeface.

There is no difference in color of the small envelopes to the left of
the Park column.

I tried different fonts, and I tried high color images or not. No
difference in the appearance, however.

I will greatly miss this feature if it is gone forever! (I had hoped
it might be related to the icon-size, fixed for me by deleting the
.xml file and re-launching TB!) But it was not.

Otherwise, so far I'm doing very well with RC1.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Gleason Pace




9Val,


HelloGleason,

GPConfirmthaticonsizesarenotcutinhalfthroughoutthe
GPprogram.Confirmthatcheckboxfunctionsarenolongerreversed.

Sorry,don'tgetbothpoints

Strange how something can get fixed that the programmers didn't know about.
Previously all little marker icons have been cut in half. This version shows the
full icon. But previously toolbar icons were much larger. Now they are the same
size as the little marker icons.

I have previously mentioned that check box functions were reversed. Put the check
in the box to disable the option. All my filters were like that. They are ok now.

GPLoadingtheImapfolderhierarchyatprogramstartupremainsa
GPproblem.Thefirsttime,Igettwoinboxeswithfolderlists.
GPSecondtimeIgetthree,ThirdtimeIgetfour,etc.Opening
GPtheManageIMAPFolderswindowscorrectsthesituation.After
GPthat,TBwillreturntostartingwithtwolistsnexttime.The
GPlistsatstartarenolongerscrambled,andarecompleteexcept
GPforonefoldercontaining42subfolders.

Doyouusemultipleconnections?Doesswitchingtosingle-connection
modehelp?

I have one imap account and three pops. I have set the imap to allow
5 concurrent connections. Setting it to 1 does not make a difference in
how the folder hierarchy is displayed when TB starts.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU  everyone else,

on 29-Apr-2005 at 21:52 you (MAU) wrote:

 Hmmm! Here we go
 again with one of those issues/problems that happen to some but not to
 others.

Sounds like it depends on whether (and when) you tried to use use external
glyphs with either the .ini or the .xml file definitions. I'd suggest to
move all customisations and external files to a save place and try again
with the only new files from the 3.0.9.x beta cycle being the .exe and the
props.dll - and then see what and if/how customisations work.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Paul F. Siebern
Hi TBBETA,

MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the
MT problem?

I am having the same problem.

9 Check both mail directory and exe directory for it

There is no 'batskin.xml' anywhere. I'd really like to have smaller
icons

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread The Final Cut
Hello 9Val

On Friday, April 29, 2005, 2:10:47 PM +0400 GMT
You wrote:

9 Hello All,

9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9 Here is a short list of changes:
9 [-] Other : AV on saving view mode to newly created
9 [-] Other : mixing glyphs and new png
9 [-] Minor : improvements in account tree behaviour
9 [-] Minor : follow-up, selection and 'Open link' 
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   When you delete the last message of a folder in folder view, folder
9   view don't close automatically but stays open. (Bug because I don't
9   see the sense of empty folder view and it was auto closed in earlier
9   versions).
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   Status-bar pop-ups in Edit Mail Message window:
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   [View | Attached Files] after a restart always indicates
9   'Show as Pane' although the actual option used is 'Show as Button'.
9   In Main, View Folder and Message Finder windows.
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   In context menu of Folder View: Reply to All quoting selected text
9   is missing.
9   Also missing in context menu of the Main window and Message Finder
9   window.
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   Checkmarks in
9   [ View | Character set]
9   are not remembered between restarts.
9 [-] mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9   'View folder' window [View | Memo auto view] menu:
9   Isn't correct updated, if you close memo auto view with ESC
9 [-] Moving the menu toolbar in the search Window, hangs the toolbar in
9 a wrong position

Ack, I still don't like it
The day the subject or reference sort threat will get rid of the bold for every 
first post, I'll switch
that bugs me a lot to have the primary email in bold even if all emails are read

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hello George,  

GMM ,- [  ]
GMM |  29.04TB! 3.5 (Return) Release Candidate 1
GMM |  It  will  differ  from  .20  only  with  bug fixes and ability to
GMM |  create/maintain   containers   in  customizer  and  re-design  of
GMM |  customizer. 
GMM `-

GMM What about it?

On  the  way,  it  was not enough stable to be included. Don't see any
sence to get a lot of AVs reports which are known for us

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Re[3]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Gleason Pace
 
 Previously all little marker icons have been cut in half.  This version shows 
 the
 full icon.  But previously toolbar icons were much larger.  Now they are the 
 same
 size as the little marker icons.
 
Removing batskin.xml restores the toolbar icons to normal size.  
 

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Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction

2005-04-29 Thread 9Val
Hello Mary,  

 Hmm, here is my screenshot

MB The Unread messages are displayed in regular, not bold, typeface.

 Please check if default colour group has bold typeface set for unread
 messages

MB There is no difference in color of the small envelopes to the left of
MB the Park column.

 That's strange

MB I will greatly miss this feature if it is gone forever! (I had hoped
MB it might be related to the icon-size, fixed for me by deleting the
MB .xml file and re-launching TB!) But it was not.

That's a bug and we'll try to fix it ASAP

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 12:25:31 PM [-0700], Peter Ouwehand wrote:

MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?

 I'd like to have such smaller icons. How did you do that ??? ;)

I have no idea! It just happened after I installed RC1.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 12:53:12 PM [-0700], 9Val wrote:

MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?

 Check both mail directory and exe directory for it

No batskin.xml in the mail directory. I do not have an exe directory.

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi 9Val,

Friday, April 29, 2005 
you let us know -at least in parts- :


 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available 

I am happy to say that the split message by xxx is no longer giving me a 
headache: I finally can type in any number that is needed.

Thank you! Why didn't you mention it? Cheers! :batwine: 

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Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 2:03:28 PM [-0700], Matt Thoene wrote:

MT Hmm...I AM having a problem with icon sizes but I do NOT have
MT batskin.xml in my TB root directory. What else could be the problem?

 Check both mail directory and exe directory for it

 No batskin.xml in the mail directory. I do not have an exe directory.

Oh Matt...pull your head out!

Turns out I was using a shortcut that pointed to the correct thebat.exe,
but the Start in: line was pointing to a different directory that DID
have batskin.xml. Nevermind :)

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The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems

2005-04-29 Thread Mike
Things are progressing nicely for the most part.  But, when is
the problems with The Bat! preventing Windows from shutting down going
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Re: Columns that move..

2005-04-29 Thread Livio
Livio, mercoledì 27 aprile 2005, 11:10:19, hai scritto:
 I cannot solve the problem of the columns...
 is there someone that can help me?

the problem with the new RC is still unsolved.
Please, how can I return back to the previous official
version?
I hope that the new version (?) will be free...

grazie

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Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction

2005-04-29 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val!

On Friday, April 29, 2005, 3:52 PM, you wrote:

  Hmm, here is my screenshot

Thanks. It's as mine used to look in .19. So--see below:

MB The Unread messages are displayed in regular, not bold, typeface.

  Please check if default colour group has bold typeface set for unread
  messages

Ah. I did not think to look in Default/edit. But did now.

Somehow--I didn't do it so far as I know, but it happened with my
installing RC1--Normal was checked to be Bold as well as Unread Bold.

Since--for contrast for my old eyes--I'm using Arial Black, I thought
all the message listings were in Regular, but they were, both Read and
Unread, in Bold.

I unchecked the Bold for Normal, and all is well.

Fixed now, and many thanks.

MB There is no difference in color of the small envelopes to the left of
MB the Park column.

  That's strange

I should say that I'm using the Default Theme and color scheme. And I
used to have yellow envelopes for unread messages.

I will poke around among the settings and see if there's something I
missed there, also.

MB I will greatly miss this feature if it is gone forever! (I had hoped
MB it might be related to the icon-size, fixed for me by deleting the
MB .xml file and re-launching TB!) But it was not.

 That's a bug and we'll try to fix it ASAP

Thanks again for the reply and for all your hard work.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available

2005-04-29 Thread Ethan J. Mings

Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:39:46 PM, you wrote:

 Ack, I still don't like it
 The day the subject or reference sort threat will get rid of the
 bold for every first post, I'll switch
 that bugs me a lot to have the primary email in bold even if all emails are 
 read


Confirmed.

I also am still concerned that the drop down for the pop address is
still ungrouped.  It really looks like a mess to have a long, long
list of names.

Finally, View | Display | Advance Features is still dead.  I know this
is being worked on. However, it should be removed or connected to the
F7 feature.

Jerry

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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Allie,

On 29-04-2005 22:18, you [AM] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Couldn't  reproduce,  may be some other tips? Like immediately
 sending or sending batch of mails?

AM I can reproduce the bug, however only if I filter to another IMAP 
AM folder on the server and not to a local folder. Filtering from outbox
AM to a local folder is fine.

Exactly. Local Outbox to remote Sent.

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Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems

2005-04-29 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Mike,

Friday, April 29, 2005 
you let us know -at least in parts- :

 Things are progressing nicely for the most part.
Same here. Good work, 9Val and Co!


 But, when is
 the problems with The Bat! preventing Windows from shutting down going
 to be fixed?
My place windows went back to the welcome screen and I was asked if I
wanted to terminate my still active connection.



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Re: Bugs in .19/.20: IMAP

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Fjelsten
9Val,

On 29-04-2005 17:54, you [9] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
PFI cannot delete remote folders or make new folders (using
PFManage IMAP folders). Any new folder is visible in the webmail
PFapplication of my mail provider - but not in the list in TB!. I
PFalso cannot unsubscribe from the folder I previously tried to
PFdelete (Mailmax, have not tried Exchange). The managing of IMAP
PFfolders seems unstable. Sometimes restarting TB! helps.

9 Folder   is  created  and correctly shown after subscribing to it, can
9 anybody else confirm?

I just re-tried on my MailMax server which had the problem when I
reported it. Now I could create and delete a folder without any issues.
So this can be considered solved.

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Re: 3.5RC1 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter,

On 29-04-2005 23:46, you [PO] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
PO Non-fixed issues:

View mode option: New thread sorting is broken as mentioned in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is just so
annoying. Could we please have this fixed in the next release?

Another thing:

One thing that puzzles me is why the current version has been dubbed RC1
- I mean Ritlabs introduced a number of new bugs in this beta series in
order to get a new interface, many of which do not - to the average user
- seem related to the new UI (which I guess to a user normally means
stuff like toolsbars, fonts, etc.). Examples: the bug mentioned above,
references sorting and so on.

I hold the opinion that a release where the number of bugs do not seem
significantly smaller than in the previous release version (3.0.1.33)
should be postponed until this has changed. Why would people want a new
release with more bugs than the previous one?

I am not saying that changing the interface has no value. It does and a
lot of people like that but isn't functionality/stability the most
important property of an e-mail program?

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Re: 3.0.9.20: New AV

2005-04-29 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU,

On 29-04-2005 12:17, you [M] wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
M ---
M The Bat!
M ---
M Access violation at address 00A98480 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0037.
M ---
M OK   
M ---

M As I say, every time I clicked OK I got a new one. So, I had to kell TB
M with Task Manager.

I get this each time I close TB! Was there in .20 and also in the
current version.

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 7C901010 in module 'ntdll.dll'. Read of address 
0174.
---
OK   
---

I have to kill TB! with Task Manger (unless TB! kills itself).


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Major issues with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread graham
So - on XP, SP2 RC1 has major issues for me
a) Memory usage. For the first time I've had TB! consume 132Mb RAM on my machine
- 4x what it usually does.
b) Antivirus folder scanning is still broken with AVG at least (Anti virus
plugin reports an error)
c) I still have very lumpy performance with 100% CPU issues on 2 separate
machines when POP3 connections are broken
d) I still have 2AV everytime I run Message finder (but only on 1 machine now?)

IMHO its not ready for prime time and it certainly isn't worthy of 5 point
releases of upgrade. It might be a 3.1 - but NOT a 3.5!!

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Re: RC1 -- AVs continue on Entering Search

2005-04-29 Thread graham
Richard Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm still getting two cascading AVs when entering search, followed by
 an AV if I tray to print a message found via search.
I can confirm the 2 AV's on entry (but only on 1 of my XP machines) and I canot
confirm the AV on printig.

 In RC1 the AV addresses seem to be varying but the read address is a
 consistent 0008. 
Confirmed..

I'd also like to add that the FOLLOW button on the message finder ow does
nothing useful at all (well and truely broken)
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Mwemory leak with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread graham
 Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. Hit send/
receive for an account (mine is set as combined immediate) and watch the memory
usage raise by 40k ((fine).. but then it falls back again - but only 20k (no
messages sent or received).
Repeat as often as you want... watch you memory disappear
Logged as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531 if you want to confirm.
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Re: Mwemory leak with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello graham,

on Friday, 29. April 2005, at 23:06:17 [GMT + (UTC)] you wrote
regarding Mwemory leak with RC1:

  Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. Hit 
 send/
 receive for an account (mine is set as combined immediate) and watch the 
 memory
 usage raise by 40k ((fine).. but then it falls back again - but only 20k (no
 messages sent or received).

My TB! uses doing nothing 30MB of memory. Alt+F2 memory goes up to 32
MB.

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Re: 3.5RC1 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-29 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I still get 2 AVs every time I open Search no matter if it is from
   tool-bar or menu. After the 2 AVs are OKed, search works fine.
 
   Miguel A. Urech (and others): is this still broken for you?

Yes, it's still broken.

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Bug in account with passow0rd

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello TB Fans,

Set a password for an account, than close the folder tree of this
account. Trying to open it TheBat! is asking two times for the
password. The folder tree is open after i have entered the first
time the requested password. Second time is not necessary. I can
close the second request window with ESC.

Bug?


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Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems

2005-04-29 Thread Mike
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 5:38:52 PM, Charlene Ferrara wrote:


 But,  when  is  the  problem with The Bat! preventing Windows from
 shutting down going to be fixed?

CF My place windows went back to the welcome screen and I was asked if I
CF wanted to terminate my still active connection.

So,   it  isn't  just  an  issue  for  me.  If you try to shut
Windows  down  while  The  Bat! is running, The Bat! misbehaves.  This
should be addressed long before any release.
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Re: Bug in account with passow0rd

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Peter,

on Saturday, 30. April 2005, at 01:46:52 [GMT +0200] you wrote
regarding Bug in account with passow0rd:

TM Set a password for an account, than close the folder tree of this
TM account. Trying to open it TheBat! is asking two times for the
TM password. The folder tree is open after i have entered the first
TM time the requested password. Second time is not necessary. I can
TM close the second request window with ESC.

TM Bug?

 My guess: you used the Enter key to open it?!?

Yes so it is.

 What about TBs behaviour when:
 - using right-arrow?
 - clicking on the + sign next to it?
 - double clicking on the account name?

All three work perfect.
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Re: Bug in account with passow0rd

2005-04-29 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Peter,

- mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Password Protected Account behaviour
  A new folder can be created in a Password Protected Account without
  unlocking it. Confirmed on TBBETA.
  
Confirmed! Just hit ESC when TB asks for the password and you are able
to create a folder.

- mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Dispatch Mail on Server in Password Protected Account

Not confirmed.


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Re: Major issues with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 3:40:35 PM [-0700], graham wrote:

 b) Antivirus folder scanning is still broken with AVG at least (Anti virus
 plugin reports an error)

Not confirmed. I've seen this bug report a few times but the AVG plugin
has worked fine for me in every beta.

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Re[2]: 3.5RC1 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-29 Thread Gleason Pace

 I hold the opinion that a release where the number of bugs do not seem
 significantly smaller than in the previous release version (3.0.1.33)
 should be postponed until this has changed. Why would people want a new
 release with more bugs than the previous one?

Resounding question.


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Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems

2005-04-29 Thread Mike
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 7:55:35 PM, Peter Ouwehand wrote:


M So, it isn't just an issue for me. If you try to shut Windows down
M while  The  Bat!  is  running, The Bat! misbehaves. This should be
M addressed long before any release.

PO Are  you  using  any  anti-spam plugin? Mine is known to need some
PO time to update files when TB is told to shutdown.

I'm  not  running any anti-spam plug-ins, but I do compress on
exit  for  all folders.  However, if I shut down The Bat! normally, it
only  takes  a few seconds to exit.  If I go to shutdown Windows while
The  Bat!  is  running,  Windows  will  not  shutdown until I manually
terminate The Bat!.
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Re: Major issues with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread Matt Thoene
On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 5:49:23 PM [-0700], Peter Ouwehand wrote:

 Which AVG / OS version are you using?

AVG Free Version, 7.0.308 / Win XP Pro SP2

Plugin version shows Version 10/7.0.308

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Re: 3.5RC1 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-29 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Peter,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:46:26 PM, you wrote:

PO Password Protected Accounts:
PO 

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Dispatch Mail on Server in Password Protected Account
PO   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   More detailed info

Confirmed.

PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO   Password Protected Account behaviour
PO   A new folder can be created in a Password Protected Account without
PO   unlocking it. Confirmed on TBBETA.

Confirmed, and now under Folder menu the choice is Folder instead of
New Folder.

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Re[2]: Bug in account with passow0rd

2005-04-29 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Thomas,
Friday, April 29, 2005, 7:18:46 PM, you wrote:

TM - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TM   Dispatch Mail on Server in Password Protected Account

TM Not confirmed.

This  only  happens  when  you have Allow/Send Fetch without entering
Password.

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Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems

2005-04-29 Thread Mike
On Friday, April 29, 2005, 9:06:36 PM, Peter Ouwehand wrote:

PO Just trying to pull info from you, for developers to read. I can't
PO answer all of 'em.

To  summarize:  If  TB!  is  running  and  I chose to shutdown
Windows  from  the  Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the
shutdown  -  some  applications  will close, but once Windows tries to
close  TB!  it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent.  I
can  then  either  close  TB! normally - by closing TB!, or kill it in
Task Manager.  Then I will be able to shutdown Windows.  This has been
the case with all 3.09.x alpha/betas and remains with 3.5RC1.

Please  feel  free to ask any pertinent information I may have
left  out.   This  has  been something I've been meaning to report for
some  time, but never got around to.  I do remember reading about some
termination problems on the list a while ago.  I'm not sure if this is
related.
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Re: RC1 -- AVs continue on Entering Search

2005-04-29 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

RN Hello Batpeople,

RN I'm still getting two cascading AVs when entering search, followed by
RN an AV if I tray to print a message found via search.
RN In 3.0.9.19 I was pretty consistently getting an AV at 07BF333 in the
RN Bat.exe. Read of address 0008. The printing AV was at 1A00
RN with the same 1A00 read address.
RN In 3.0.9.20 I was pretty consistently getting an AV at 008077D7 in the
RN Bat.exe. Read of address 0008. The printing AV was at 0001
RN with the same 0001 read address.
RN In RC1 the AV addresses seem to be varying but the read address is a
RN consistent 0008. The printing AV seems to be a consistent 
RN for both.


Not  confirmed  with  any  of the mentioned versions. Just pressing F7
leads to the cascading AVs?

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Re: Mwemory leak with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


g  Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. Hit 
send/
g receive for an account (mine is set as combined immediate) and watch the 
memory
g usage raise by 40k ((fine).. but then it falls back again - but only 20k (no
g messages sent or received).
g Repeat as often as you want... watch you memory disappear
g Logged as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531 if you want to confirm.

Confirmed. Used memory increases after several check mails!

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Re: Bug in account with passow0rd

2005-04-29 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


TM Hello TB Fans,

TM Set a password for an account, than close the folder tree of this
TM account. Trying to open it TheBat! is asking two times for the
TM password. The folder tree is open after i have entered the first
TM time the requested password. Second time is not necessary. I can
TM close the second request window with ESC.

TM Bug?

Confirmed. Oddity at least! :)



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Re[2]: Bug in account with passow0rd

2005-04-29 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


PO Hello Thomas Martin,

PO on Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:30:32 -0300 (2005-04-30 01:30:32 in .nl) in the
PO message with reference
PO mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PO you [TM] wrote (at least in part):

TM Hello TB Fans,

TM Set a password for an account, than close the folder tree of this
TM account. Trying to open it TheBat! is asking two times for the
TM password. The folder tree is open after i have entered the first
TM time the requested password. Second time is not necessary. I can
TM close the second request window with ESC.

TM Bug?

PO My guess: you used the Enter key to open it?!?
PO If so: known issue, somewhere on here or on BT, can't really remember.

PO What about TBs behaviour when:
PO - using right-arrow?
PO - clicking on the + sign next to it?
PO - double clicking on the account name?

If I recall it's exactly the same but I'll check it at my laptop soon.





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Re[2]: Major issues with RC1

2005-04-29 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


MT On Friday, April 29, 2005 @ 3:40:35 PM [-0700], graham wrote:

 b) Antivirus folder scanning is still broken with AVG at least (Anti virus
 plugin reports an error)

MT Not confirmed. I've seen this bug report a few times but the AVG plugin
MT has worked fine for me in every beta.

I  confirm the issue with the BitDefender plugin. Overall it work fine
but doing a FOLDER AV-Check is broken (@Menu FOLDER-Check for Virus).


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Re: 3.5rc1 bug: Character set = set as default doesn't work

2005-04-29 Thread Bobi Jam
Hello Bobi,

On Wednesday, April 27, 2005, at 13:51:38[GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which was
13:51 where I live) Bobi wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I created a mail fold which I select one mail and set its character set, and
 I clicked Character set = set as default hoping all mails in this fold
 without character set tag header will use this as their default character
 set, while that doesn't happen. All mails without character set tag set
 filtered in this folder just use None as their character set, and that
 make me have to select their character set one by one.

still persists.

 Even worse, with another mail, the character set pop up menu item was
 auto-selected what I've selected, but the mail persisted displaying
 gibberish, I have to select another character set and select back the
 correct one to make it readable.

well in 3.5rc1, this part was fixed. And mail without character tag set can
be identified as using None of the character set.

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