Re: Preview pane missing

[George Salnik]

Howdy!

Вы писали 5.07.21 г., 6:04:41:

> Try to press SHIFT+CTRL+E.
> Thanks, I saw that when Jernej pointed me to the menu item. That must have 
> been the key combo I inadvertedly clicked. 
Yep, message auto-view and SHIFT+CTRL+E is the same thing


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Re: Preview pane missing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello George,


On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 11:41:36 +0300 GMT (04-Jul-21, 15:41 +0700 GMT),
George Salnik wrote:

>> Writing from my laptop as my PC's TB! became inoperable. I installed 9.4 
>> from the MSI, and all was normal, I even posted a message here. I left TB! 
>> open as usual while working on something else, and then when I went back to 
>> TB!, the preview pane was gone.

>> Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key 
>> combo...

> Try to press SHIFT+CTRL+E.

Thanks, I saw that when Jernej pointed me to the menu item. That must have been 
the key combo I inadvertedly clicked. 

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Re: Preview pane missing

[George Salnik]

Howdy!


Вы писали 4.07.21 г., 14:39:55:
> On nedelja, 04. julij 2021, 10:37:54, George Salnik wrote:

>> I, as 20+ years Avast user and Avast distributor do not recommend to use it 
>> any ugly tricks to not use best AV in the world. Don't do stupid tips please.

> https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-cost-of-avasts-free-antivirus-companies-can-spy-on-your-clicks
> https://linustechtips.com/topic/1132938-avast-is-now-officially-spyware-selling-user-data/
> https://www.extremetech.com/internet/305344-avasts-free-antivirus-harvests-all-your-clicks-sells-them-to-third-parties
> https://wccftech.com/avast-is-selling-user-data/
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjdkq7/avast-antivirus-sells-user-browsing-data-investigation

I am very glad that you can't read the words from journalists and think that 
journalists are so smart to type a words. Free avast-browser plugin that was 
catch some non-precise user info never was on Avast antivirus side (and users 
was install this plugin by their-self wish). You can fly in your virtual world, 
we can't stop you. Just stop saying balderdash about Avast here or starting 
again holy-war about using some MS-free-AV.  


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Re: Preview pane missing

[Jernej Simončič]

On nedelja, 04. julij 2021, 10:37:54, George Salnik wrote:

> I, as 20+ years Avast user and Avast distributor do not recommend to use it 
> any ugly tricks to not use best AV in the world. Don't do stupid tips please.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/the-cost-of-avasts-free-antivirus-companies-can-spy-on-your-clicks
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1132938-avast-is-now-officially-spyware-selling-user-data/
https://www.extremetech.com/internet/305344-avasts-free-antivirus-harvests-all-your-clicks-sells-them-to-third-parties
https://wccftech.com/avast-is-selling-user-data/
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjdkq7/avast-antivirus-sells-user-browsing-data-investigation

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Re: Preview pane missing

[George Salnik]

Howdy!

Вы писали 3.07.21 г., 11:10:59:
> Dear TBEETA,

> Writing from my laptop as my PC's TB! became inoperable. I installed 9.4 from 
> the MSI, and all was normal, I even posted a message here. I left TB! open as 
> usual while working on something else, and then when I went back to TB!, the 
> preview pane was gone.

> Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key 
> combo...

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Re: Preview pane missing

[George Salnik]

Howdy!

Вы писали 3.07.21 г., 11:59:01:
> On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 10:10:59, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key 
>> combo...

> Workspace → Message auto-view maybe?

>> Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have to do 
>> with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, and still no 
>> preview pane. (I have enabled avast! again, don't worry.)

> I suggest you get rid of Avast, it turned into spyware. The built-in Windows 
> Defender is more than sufficient for home users.

I, as 20+ years Avast user and Avast distributor do not recommend to use it any 
ugly tricks to not use best AV in the world. 
Don't do stupid tips please.



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[OT] Usefulness of anti-virus software (was: Preview pane missing)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Joerg,

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 22:57:56 +0200 GMT (04-Jul-21, 3:57 +0700 GMT),
Joerg Schiermeier wrote:

> On 2021-07-03 at 15:10 (UTC +0700) Thomas Fernandez wrote:
>> Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have
>> to do with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer,

> Almost all so called "Anti Virus" is snake oil [1][2].
> Only use "Brain 1.0"!

I see you don't have staff in your office who would click on any attachment, 
especially when it ways "invoice" or "payment". I am in the logistics industry, 
and we received targeted emails with malware payment; called "vessel delay 
notice" or "shipping documents" which are subject and attachment names we 
received legitimately regularly.

I have also encountered websites of government ministries were I had to look up 
something and avast! sounded an alarm because the website had some malware it 
wanted to download onto my computer. I don't click on suspicious links, but 
legit URLs can be infected too.

So, please don't tell me that AV software has no use. Thanks.

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Re: Preview pane missing

[Joerg Schiermeier]

On 2021-07-03 at 15:10 (UTC +0700) Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have
> to do with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer,

Almost all so called "Anti Virus" is snake oil [1][2].
Only use "Brain 1.0"!

[1] URL: 
[2] URL: 

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Re: Preview pane missing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Jernej,

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 10:59:01 +0200 GMT (03-Jul-21, 15:59 +0700 GMT),
Jernej Simončič wrote:

> On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 10:10:59, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key 
>> combo...

> Workspace → Message auto-view maybe?

Exactly! Thanks, sometimes I'm blind. I had searched the menu navigator for 
"preview" and that did not show this.

>> Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have to do 
>> with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, and still no 
>> preview pane. (I have enabled avast! again, don't worry.)

> I suggest you get rid of Avast, it turned into spyware. The built-in Windows 
> Defender is more than sufficient for home users.

Seriously? I'm a paying customer and quite happy with it, espeically the mail 
and web shields. At the time I chose avast! (many years ago), it was 
recommended over Windows Defender. Things change, and I will do some research 
on this.

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Re: Preview pane missing

[Jernej Simončič]

On Saturday, July 3, 2021, 10:10:59, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key 
> combo...

Workspace → Message auto-view maybe?

> Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have to do 
> with it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, and still no 
> preview pane. (I have enabled avast! again, don't worry.)

I suggest you get rid of Avast, it turned into spyware. The built-in Windows 
Defender is more than sufficient for home users.

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Preview pane missing

[Thomas Fernandez]

Dear TBEETA,

Writing from my laptop as my PC's TB! became inoperable. I installed 9.4 from 
the MSI, and all was normal, I even posted a message here. I left TB! open as 
usual while working on something else, and then when I went back to TB!, the 
preview pane was gone.

Workspace / Window split / Full-height account tree remained unchanged. I 
played around changed to other window split settings, but in no setting is the 
preview pane visible in any more.

Went back to 9.3.4 by using the msi file for that, and still no preview pane in 
any window split setting. That's what confused me the most. If it is a bug in 
9.4, all should have gone back to normal after going back but it didn't.

Any idea what the reason could be? I probably inadvertedly hit some crtl-key 
combo...

Remark: avast! updated in the background and I thought that may have to do with 
it. However, I disabled avast!, restarted the computer, and still no preview 
pane. (I have enabled avast! again, don't worry.)

(I have also not connected to any network printer spooler, so we can rule that 
out.)

Thanks for any hints,

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Re: preview pane

[Dwight Corrin]

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 2:14:20 PM, Alain de Gevigney wrote:
 
>> My  preview pane has vanished.

> Shift-Ctrl-E ?
 
that must be how I lost it .
  
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Re: preview pane

[Alain de Gevigney]

Hello Dwight,

> My  preview pane has vanished.

Shift-Ctrl-E ?


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Re: preview pane

[Dwight Corrin]

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013, 2:00:59 PM, Ivan Pozdeev wrote:
 
> Workspace->Message Auto-view
 
thank you.  
  
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Re: preview pane

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> My  preview pane has vanished. I have not been able to get it back. i 
> generally run with a full height account tree, and read my mail in the
> preview pane. Suddenly it has vanished. I've tried switching  to full 
> height  preview  on the right, and on the left, as well as full width 
> preview  pane. It doesn't appear an any of those choice. I don't find 
> anything I can grab and drag to get it back.
>   

Workspace->Message Auto-view

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preview pane

[Dwight Corrin]

My  preview pane has vanished. I have not been able to get it back. i 
generally run with a full height account tree, and read my mail in the 
preview pane. Suddenly it has vanished. I've tried switching  to full 
height  preview  on the right, and on the left, as well as full width 
preview  pane. It doesn't appear an any of those choice. I don't find 
anything I can grab and drag to get it back.
  
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Re: Message preview pane is not refreshed, when is empty folder selected

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Marek,

On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:42:11 +0100GMT (8-1-2011, 20:42 , where I
live), you wrote:

MM> when I select empty folder, message list is empty, but last selected
MM> message stays visible in message preview pane, there should be message
MM> "No message loaded" instead.

Confirmed

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Message preview pane is not refreshed, when is empty folder selected

[Marek Mikus]

Hello,
when I select empty folder, message list is empty, but last selected
message stays visible in message preview pane, there should be message
"No message loaded" instead.

reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8296

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Re: Copy from Preview Pane

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Dmitry,

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:10:30 +0400GMT (21-8-2009, 14:10 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

DN> Weird... I just tried to do the same on your mail.

Odd to say the least. ;-)
When I try to copy from my own message I get the full text.
Apart  from  that  my message wasn't an HTML message and like you said
those were especially suffering from the problem.

DN> Did you select "a couple of lines" together or one by one? :)

I  copied  a  couple of lines together, two paragraphs I think with an
empty line in between.

You don't specify your TB version nor your OS, that might be relevant.
That's why a lot of us mention those items in our signature.

DN> Best regards,
DN>  Dmitrymailto:dmitry.noviko...@gmail.com

DN>  Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:57:11 PM, you wrote:

>> Hallo Dmitry,

It's  considered  bad  manners (and against the list rules) to use top
posting on this list. And doing so while answering a list moderator is
kind  of  hazardous.  However  I feel mellow today: Please don't do it
again.

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Re: Copy from Preview Pane

[Dmitry Novikov]

Title: Re: Copy from Preview Pane


Hi again,

Weird... I just tried to do the same on your mail.

Copied:

"Can't confirm.
Copied a couple of lines from an HTML message (in preview) and pasted
everything into a Word document."

Pasted:

"Can't confirm.
Copied a couple of lines from an HTML message (in preview) and pasted
"

Did you select "a couple of lines" together or one by one? :)

Best regards,
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 Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:57:11 PM, you wrote:

> Hallo Dmitry,

> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:43:41 +0400GMT (21-8-2009, 13:43 +0200, where
> I live), you wrote:

DN>> Try to copy several lines of text from the preview pane (it seems
DN>> to be only applicable for html messages). Then try to paste what
DN>> you've copied somewhere. Last line is lost. It just doesn't get copied.

> Can't confirm.
> Copied  a couple of lines from an HTML message (in preview) and pasted
> everything into a Word document.




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Re: Copy from Preview Pane

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Dmitry,

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:43:41 +0400GMT (21-8-2009, 13:43 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

DN> Try to copy several lines of text from the preview pane (it seems
DN> to be only applicable for html messages). Then try to paste what
DN> you've copied somewhere. Last line is lost. It just doesn't get copied.

Can't confirm.
Copied  a couple of lines from an HTML message (in preview) and pasted
everything into a Word document.

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Copy from Preview Pane

[Dmitry Novikov]

Hi all,

It seems this old bug is being ignored in latest builds:

Try to copy several lines of text from the preview pane (it seems to be only 
applicable for html messages). Then try to paste what you've copied somewhere. 
Last line is lost. It just doesn't get copied.

However, if the message is opened in a separate window, everything works fine.

Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Lost ability to work with nested message in Preview Pane

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, June 24, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

MM>> Is this by design now or a bug in bugfix?

> Ouch. It's a bug, of course. I'm just trying to figure how to fix
> it... :-)

Stef, almost perfeft now :-)

I have checked working with nested message and I am not sure, if it is
fully working:

reply to nested message -> opened editor with nested message
forward to nested message -> opened editor with original message
redirect to nested message -> opened editor with nested message
save as to nested message -> saves original message text, not nested one

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Re: Lost ability to work with nested message in Preview Pane

[Roman Mülchen]

Hello Marek Mikus,

am 24.06.2008, um 11:38 Uhr, schriebst Du:

MM> ability to reply/forward/redirect nested messages in Preview Pane was lost,
MM> for now, only Undo/Redo/Copy/Paste/Cut functions are available in Preview
MM> pane, when is nested message selected.

If the nested message has any attachments, there is no ability to save
these files except double clicking. No right mouse menu at all :-(

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Re[2]: Lost ability to work with nested message in Preview Pane

[Ivan Bolhovitinov]

Hi, Stefan.

> Ouch. It's a bug, of course. I'm just trying to figure how to fix
> it... :-)

Broken because
[The Bat 0006593]: Many functions disabled (greyed out) for no apparent reason
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Re: Lost ability to work with nested message in Preview Pane

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Marek,

MM> Is this by design now or a bug in bugfix?

Ouch. It's a bug, of course. I'm just trying to figure how to fix
it... :-)

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Re: Lost ability to work with nested message in Preview Pane

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Marek,

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:38:48 +0200GMT (24-6-2008, 11:38 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

MM> ability to reply/forward/redirect nested messages in Preview Pane was lost,

Confirmed

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Lost ability to work with nested message in Preview Pane

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
as I discovered now, probably after fixing

> [-] (#0006593) Some menu commands and buttons got disabled after viewing
> messages using a preview pane tab

ability to reply/forward/redirect nested messages in Preview Pane was lost,
for now, only Undo/Redo/Copy/Paste/Cut functions are available in Preview
pane, when is nested message selected.

And this is major step back for me, because now I must open every nested
message to viewer instead working with original and nested message in
Preview Pane.

Is this by design now or a bug in bugfix?

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Re: New Preview pane search has big button icons in separate Viewer window

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hi Marek,
 
> icons are bigger than buttons

confirmed

And due to the coding of the batskin.XML, I can not adapt the Button. :(


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New Preview pane search has big button icons in separate Viewer window

[Marek Mikus]

Hello,
select message and use doubleclick to open it in separate window, click 
to preview and hit Ctrl+F, icons are bigger than buttons

reported in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6689

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Re: Preview pane scroll bar

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

> In the last alpha it was reported that if you scrolled down on a
> message (in the preview pane) then clicked on another message, the
> scroll bar would stay in the same position instead of showing the top
> of the message.
>
> That seems to be fixed in this alpha

IF
 last alpha = 4.0.0.9
 .AND. this alpha = 4.0.0.10
THEN
 I agree
END IF ;-)

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Preview pane scroll bar

[Rick Grunwald]

In the last alpha it was reported that if you scrolled down on a
message (in the preview pane) then clicked on another message, the
scroll bar would stay in the same position instead of showing the top
of the message.

That seems to be fixed in this alpha
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Re: Preview pane not re-drawing

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Neal,

on  Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:42:29 -0900GMT (05.01.2008, 05:42 +0100GMT here),
you wrote:

NL> When the message pane is empty ("no new messages" tab for example) the
NL> preview pane draws whatever is on top of it. In Delphi I would say the
NL> pane is not invalidating properly. Here's the screenshot:

NL> http://nealtech.us/files/images/tb-screenshot2.png

NL> You can see MicroEd (this message) and Process Explorer in the preview
NL> pane.

Confirmed here. The preview pane shows whatever was there before until
I select a message.

NL> *

NL> Different problem I will post on as soon as I know more: Antispam
NL> Sniper is going bazerk on shutdown when there are current tasks and
NL> you instruct to shutdown gracefully (TB does not shut down) and
NL> Process Explorer shows ASSniper generating a multitude of threads.
NL> More on this one later.

No problems with ASSniper 2.6.1.2 free version here.

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Re: Preview pane not re-drawing

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, at 22:44:07 [GMT -0900] (which was 8:44 where I
live) Neal Laugman wrote:

> Henk:

> I have to do some more investigating. Do you have any problems
> shutting down with active tasks? This is when I see the problem. There
> is usually one account hung up trying to check mail and another task
> named : Windows Management that is in the list. Tomorrow I will get
> some screenshots and more data. I'm pretty sure that ASSniper has
> something to do with it. Later

Hi Neal,

There is a more recent version of ASS available. Since 3.99.29 I am
experiencing no problems with this version of ASS.

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Re: Preview pane not re-drawing

[Neal Laugman]

tbbeta and Henk,

> When the message pane is empty ("no new messages" tab for example) the
> preview pane draws whatever is on top of it. In Delphi I would say the
> pane is not invalidating properly. Here's the screenshot:

> http://nealtech.us/files/images/tb-screenshot2.png

> You can see MicroEd (this message) and Process Explorer in the preview
> pane.

Here is a more interesting screenshot that shows that the preview pane
is transparent when the app is restored from the tray icon:

http://nealtech.us/files/images/tb-screenshot-4007-2.png

Pretty wild to look at :)

> *

> Different problem I will post on as soon as I know more: Antispam
> Sniper is going bazerk on shutdown when there are current tasks and
> you instruct to shutdown gracefully (TB does not shut down) and
> Process Explorer shows ASSniper generating a multitude of threads.
> More on this one later.

Henk:

I have to do some more investigating. Do you have any problems
shutting down with active tasks? This is when I see the problem. There
is usually one account hung up trying to check mail and another task
named : Windows Management that is in the list. Tomorrow I will get
some screenshots and more data. I'm pretty sure that ASSniper has
something to do with it. Later


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Re: Preview pane not re-drawing

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, at 19:42:29 [GMT -0900] (which was 5:42 where I
live) Neal Laugman wrote:

> Different problem I will post on as soon as I know more: Antispam
> Sniper is going bazerk on shutdown when there are current tasks and
> you instruct to shutdown gracefully (TB does not shut down) and
> Process Explorer shows ASSniper generating a multitude of threads.
> More on this one later.

Can't confirm this with my (free) version.

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Preview pane not re-drawing

[Neal Laugman]

Hi TBBETA,

When the message pane is empty ("no new messages" tab for example) the
preview pane draws whatever is on top of it. In Delphi I would say the
pane is not invalidating properly. Here's the screenshot:

http://nealtech.us/files/images/tb-screenshot2.png

You can see MicroEd (this message) and Process Explorer in the preview
pane.

*

Different problem I will post on as soon as I know more: Antispam
Sniper is going bazerk on shutdown when there are current tasks and
you instruct to shutdown gracefully (TB does not shut down) and
Process Explorer shows ASSniper generating a multitude of threads.
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Re: No message in preview pane and will not minimize

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag Neal Laugman,

am Montag, 12. November 2007 um 20:51 schrieben Sie:

> Every so often I will select a folder with new messages and I will not
> see any message text in the preview pane (using text-only)

Same Behavior at my The_Bat! 3.99.25/1.288

> I believe the minimize-to-tray
> function was an issue not so long ago.

I am not clear about that, i did not test it.

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No message in preview pane and will not minimize

[Neal Laugman]

Hi folks,

Every so often I will select a folder with new messages and I will not
see any message text in the preview pane (using text-only) - including
postings from this list. At the same time, the program window will not
minimize to the tray, until I either use the tray icon context menu
Restore or the system menu Minimize (upper left corner on the app
window).

Once I do this, and the application is able to minimize, the preview
pane again shows its message text. I believe the minimize-to-tray
function was an issue not so long ago.

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IMAP: Progress bar in Preview pane no longer works

[-=Curtis=-]

Hi all,

I've noticed that the progress bar that normally appears while large
messages or attachments are being downloaded is now gone. That's one of
the few pieces of feedback in IMAP that is now gone too. :(((

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Re: Preview pane

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Goos & everyone else,

on 16-Mai-2005 at 16:45 you (Goos) wrote:

> After my weekly reboot, TB started without the message preview
> pane below the message list column. How can I get it back there?
> Can't find it in the Windows split mode options.

menu View | Message Auto-View should be enabled.

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Re: Preview pane

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Goos,
Monday, May 16, 2005, 9:45:42 AM, you wrote:

G> After my weekly reboot, TB started without the message preview
G> pane below the message list column. How can I get it back there?
G> Can't find it in the Windows split mode options.

Should be View/Window Split Mode/Full Height Account Tree.

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Preview pane

[Goos]

After my weekly reboot, TB started without the message preview
pane below the message list column. How can I get it back there?
Can't find it in the Windows split mode options.

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Re: Split modes "Full-height Preview Pane" and "Vertical split" are reversed

[Greg Strong]

Hello Marek,

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:38:58 +0200 GMT(4/25/2005, 3:38 PM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marek Mikuš wrote:

> please confirm it here:

> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4505

confirmed. & more

horizontal split is really vertical split!  I posted this many moons
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Split modes "Full-height Preview Pane" and "Vertical split" are reversed

[Marek Mikuš]

Hello all,
please confirm it here:

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Re[4]: Custom headers and preview pane

[Martin Webster on tbbeta]

Hello Martin, 

On 10 April 2005, 17:39 you wrote:

> Even stranger behaviour... see attached image. Header is displayed
> twice!

Forget that... I have two identical headers in the message. It looks
like I need to use 'formail -a "X-Folder: $MATCH' instead of 'formail
-A "X-Folder: $MATCH"' in my .procmailrc.


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Re: Custom headers and preview pane

[Greg Strong]

Hello Peter,

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:05:24 +0200 GMT(4/10/2005, 11:05 AM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Hampf wrote:

> Most likely you have defined to "Display this field on the scrollable
> part of the header pane". Uncheck that option and you should see it without
> the necessity to scroll.

Thanks for pointing this out.

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Re[3]: Custom headers and preview pane

[Martin Webster on tbbeta]

Hello Martin, 

>> Most likely you have defined to "Display this field on the scrollable
>> part of the header pane". Uncheck that option and you should see it without
>> the necessity to scroll.

> That was it... of sorts. Although I had changed this setting a restart
> was required to get the desired effect. However, things went awry
> while testing this out. When I changed two of my custom headers TB!
> confused both of them. For example, I selected X-Folder and
> X-Spam-Status was displayed and visa versa.

Even stranger behaviour... see attached image. Header is displayed
twice!


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Re[2]: Custom headers and preview pane

[Martin Webster on tbbeta]

Hello Peter, 

On 10 April 2005, 17:05 you wrote:

MWot>> However, the new header isn't available without a restart. Can anyone
MWot>> confirm?

> Confirmed.

MWot>> Also, I note that the header area is of fixed size, i.e. only three
MWot>> headers are viable at any one time. Is this intentional?

> Not confirmed!

> Most likely you have defined to "Display this field on the scrollable
> part of the header pane". Uncheck that option and you should see it without
> the necessity to scroll.

That was it... of sorts. Although I had changed this setting a restart
was required to get the desired effect. However, things went awry
while testing this out. When I changed two of my custom headers TB!
confused both of them. For example, I selected X-Folder and
X-Spam-Status was displayed and visa versa.


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Re: Custom headers and preview pane

[Greg Strong]

Hello Martin,

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:42:01 +0100 GMT(4/10/2005, 10:42 AM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Webster on tbbeta wrote:

> If you want to display a custom header in the the preview pane (e.g.
> X-Spam-Status) you first create an entry under Preferences; Messages;
> Message Headers. However, the new header isn't available without a
> restart. Can anyone confirm?

Confirmed


> Also, I note that the header area is of fixed size, i.e. only three
> headers are viable at any one time. Is this intentional?

Not confirmed.

From the main window with a 'Full Account Tree' selected I have noticed
the text for the 'Headers' menu under View is missing, and by selecting
or un-selecting a header does not work. However if I right click on the
header pane from the main window with a 'Full Account Tree' selected
that I can change the headers viewed. Also from the 'Edit Mail Message'
I can View | select new header and use the scroll bar to see it in the
header area.

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Re: Custom headers and preview pane

[Peter Hampf]

Good evening Martin,

on Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:42:01 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote:

MWot> However, the new header isn't available without a restart. Can anyone
MWot> confirm?

Confirmed.

MWot> Also, I note that the header area is of fixed size, i.e. only three
MWot> headers are viable at any one time. Is this intentional?

Not confirmed!

Most likely you have defined to "Display this field on the scrollable
part of the header pane". Uncheck that option and you should see it without
the necessity to scroll.

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Custom headers and preview pane

[Martin Webster on tbbeta]

Hello tbbeta, 

If you want to display a custom header in the the preview pane (e.g.
X-Spam-Status) you first create an entry under Preferences; Messages;
Message Headers. However, the new header isn't available without a
restart. Can anyone confirm?

Also, I note that the header area is of fixed size, i.e. only three
headers are viable at any one time. Is this intentional?


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IMAP: Virtual folders and preview pane

[Martin Webster]

 
Hello TBBETA,

When I switch to a virtual folder I usually see the last message
viewed in the preview pane... that is, if the message is from a POP3
account. With IMAP I only see "No message loaded" with the oldest
messages shown in the message list or the last viewed POP3 message. As
soon as I select an IMAP message it is displayed.

I don't know whether this is a bug or just something that's not
implemented. However, it means virtual folders have limited use when
used with IMAP.


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Re: Blank preview pane (Was: Re: 3.0.1 RC6 is now available)

[Michael Geyer]

Hi Dean and list,

On Sunday, October 10, 2004 at 16:43:59 GMT -0500 (which was 23:43
where I live) Dean wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable
points on the subject of "Blank preview pane (Was: Re: 3.0.1 RC6 is
now available)":

> I have found a consistent on this machine for losing the preview pane.

Hmmm - doesn't work always here, just sporadically. But when it's
lost, it was always after a minimize to system tray and restoring
to full screen again.

> My fix that consistently works is to use the View > Windows split mode> any
> option. Then I can go back to my original split mode (full width
> pre-view)  and everything is back to normal,

I can confirm this workaround.

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Re[2]: Blank preview pane (Was: Re: 3.0.1 RC6 is now available)

[Sean Rima]

 Dean,

Sunday, October 10, 2004, 10:43:59 PM, you wrote:

> Hi ,
>  Saturday, October 9, 2004, 4:52:50 PM, you wrote:

SR>>>> I seen in another thread on this that restarting TB! helps, but only
SR>>>> until I find that I minimise it and the preview screen go blank again,

> I have found a consistent on this machine for losing the preview pane.
> I can minimize with no ill effect.  However, if I just move to a
> folder with over 3000 posts, the preview pane is history/gone.  It is also
> gone for any folder from that point onward.

> My fix that consistently works is to use the View > Windows split mode> any
> option. Then I can go back to my original split mode (full width
> pre-view)  and everything is back to normal, and the weird part is I
> can then pull up the folder with over 3000 messages and the preview
> pane works just fine.

> Anyone else able to get this work-around to help out?


That ios another way to do it, and faster that restarting TB!
:roflmao:

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Re: Blank preview pane (Was: Re: 3.0.1 RC6 is now available)

[Dean]

Hi ,
 Saturday, October 9, 2004, 4:52:50 PM, you wrote:

SR>>> I seen in another thread on this that restarting TB! helps, but only
SR>>> until I find that I minimise it and the preview screen go blank again,

I have found a consistent on this machine for losing the preview pane.
I can minimize with no ill effect.  However, if I just move to a
folder with over 3000 posts, the preview pane is history/gone.  It is also
gone for any folder from that point onward.

My fix that consistently works is to use the View > Windows split mode> any
option. Then I can go back to my original split mode (full width
pre-view)  and everything is back to normal, and the weird part is I
can then pull up the folder with over 3000 messages and the preview
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Re: Message header in preview pane

[Zeynel A. Öztürk]

Hello,

Tuesday, December 9, 2003, 3:52:19 PM, you wrote:

MS> Back to my message header issue now. I have added 'Mail-Followup-To'
MS> as a user defined header field to my preferences. Then went on to
MS> switch it on for display on the header part of the preview pane, and
MS> noticed that it wouldn't show this line completely, yet gave me a
MS> scrollbar to allow me to scroll it into view.

Click your custom header on Options\Messages\Message Headers, select
your custom header and click Edit button. Unselect the "Display this
field on the scrollable part of the header pane" option.  This should
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Re[2]: preview pane scroll bar hassles

[NetVicious]

martes, 21 oct 2003 at 14:08, it seems you wrote:

> Not in this version Stefan.  :(

He uses The Bat! (v2.01.4) ;-)

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Re: Preview pane bug and suggestions

[Prezes]

Hello Krzysztof,
Saturday, June 7, 2003, 1:23:06 AM, you wrote:

KT> Hello all,

KT>   Not  sure  whether  these  have  already been reported. If you right
KT>   click  on  headers  above the preview pane, and choose "headers" you
KT>   can see ticks by selected headers. However if you do the same on the
KT>   message  itself,  there  are  no ticks, but still selecting a header
KT>   works (that is it's appearing/disappearing). Obviously a bug.

KT>   Also   a suggestion: all the headers are one under another, and thus
KT>   on big screens lot's of space is wasted to the right of them. Should
KT>   there  be  a way to rearrange them somehow, so that some of them are
KT>   placed on the right side?

KT>   Another  issue  -- I already wrote Stefan about this, but would like
KT>   to  see your opinion. Sometimes there are messages (like the message
KT>   with Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBETA) that
KT>   are multipart and have first part like this:

KT> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
KT> Content-transfer-encoding: base64

KT>   --  here  message's  text  encoded in base64 follows, and then there
KT>   comes another part:

KT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
KT> MIME-Version: 1.0
KT> Content-Disposition: inline
KT> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

KT> 
KT>  Current beta is 1.63b9 | "Using TBBETA" information:
KT> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

KT>     so  this  is  TBBETA's  footer.  But  it is now displayed in a
KT>   separate   tab.   Is   it   really   correct?   It   says   clearly:
KT>   Content-Disposition: inline so I thought it should display below the
KT>   text  from  the first part... Enlighten me -- how should it be?

KT> Regards,
  
fixed

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