Re: New Thread Button? (was RE: IMAP, moving to TB

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 9:11:48 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

MDP HTML formatting is *not* a server side function. It is client side and
MDP you should be able to set Outlook to not send HTML.

Marck, once in your life you're wrong :-)
Only once :-))) But you are :-)

Exchange has (don't ask which version introduced it, I don't know) an
option to convert every plain text message to HTML. I don't even know
if this would affect mails delivered to the exchange server via SMTP
too, but it DOES for 'native' delivered (I don't know what, or even if
this is a, protocol Outlook  Exchange use in LAN).

I know this options can be turned off. I don't know where exactly as
our old Exchange, used only for LAN internal communication, don't
offer it (thank god *G*) ... But I've seen and read enough to know at
least starting with two-thousand-something it is there. :-(((
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Re: address book

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 1:12:00 AM you wrote (at least in part):

MDP Now, when you *Send* a reply (it *must* leave your outbox before the
MDP filter actually operates) to any message, the recipient will be added
MDP to the address book.

Does it have to? I've set up Reply filters for eBay (set a color group
when reply to a winner was written) and it is hooked when I send the
message to Outbox. Not saving as draft, but when using 'Queue in
Outbox' (I do generally send deferred ...).

Do you have 'Immediate delivery' enabled? Does the Reply-filter hook
_really_ rely on that setting? If so: it's time to file a bug report,
for this becoming changed in v2! Reply filters should hook on _any_
form of sending, not on executing what's set as default ...
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Re: AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Clive Taylor

12 June 2002, 21:52, you wrote:

JR Reading their material would lead one to think that NOD32
JR   was consistently  the best antivirus software out there
JR   [something I would want] but from this list I'm getting
JR   very mixed signals.

I don't think there's any question that NOD is an excellent scanner
and well deserves its reputation. What's muddying the water here is
the way the TB developed plug-in works.

You'll see two points of view here. The first (including me) who are
suspicious about extra links inserted into the detection loop -
especially when that process is being handled by a beta version of the
plug-in; the second group loves the plug-in because it performs a few
juggling tricks with infected messages.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, June 13, 2002, 8:06:23 AM, you wrote:

B Hi Daniel,

DG TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...

B I've done that. It makes no difference. It's not a new mail sound.
B It's something else. Like an error but there's no error message.

Hi Blarp,
 I believe it could be a filter deleting a (spma)  msg?

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Re: address book

2002-06-13 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, June 13, 2002, 8:32:18 AM, you wrote:

PP Does it have to? I've set up Reply filters for eBay (set a color group
PP when reply to a winner was written) and it is hooked when I send the
PP message to Outbox. Not saving as draft, but when using 'Queue in
PP Outbox' (I do generally send deferred ...).

PP Do you have 'Immediate delivery' enabled? Does the Reply-filter hook
PP _really_ rely on that setting? If so: it's time to file a bug report,
PP for this becoming changed in v2! Reply filters should hook on _any_
PP form of sending, not on executing what's set as default ...


Hi Peter,

I only recently found that when you use deferred sending and there is
more then 1 email in the outbox when sending starts, some msg don't get
send! My advice is to use immediate delivery.
It is a known bug :(
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Re: euro sign

2002-06-13 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:26:17 AM, you wrote:

PG ... whereas here in the UK I get something resembling a Space Invader.

Well that resembles the general consensus in the UK. :-)


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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Blarp

Hi Gerard,

G  I believe it could be a filter deleting a (spma)  msg?

I just checked all the active filters and none of them are set to play
any sound. The only filter I have that operates automatically on
receipt moves messages from the Inbox to other folders for sorting.
But the filters themselves don't have the Play sound action checked
off.

It's definitely something to do with the receive process
but I'll be damned if I can figure out what triggers it. It's very
annoying.

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Re: send without confirmation

2002-06-13 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Ravindra,

 



Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 6:41:12 AM you wrote:



From the compose window, is there some way to send the message
RM immediately *without* having to confirm?

Yes.

 Account - Properties - Options - Remove the v in Confirm
 immediate sending.

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Re: address book

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Gerard,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 8:48:29 AM you wrote (at least in part):


G I only recently found that when you use deferred sending and there is
G more then 1 email in the outbox when sending starts, some msg don't get
G send! My advice is to use immediate delivery.
G It is a known bug :(

Thx for your advise :-)

'til now I've managed it to send mail mails without problems, so I'll
stuck with deferred sending :-)
I don't like it if mails get _accidentally_ send out immediately :-)
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Re: New Thread Button? (was RE: IMAP, moving to TB

2002-06-13 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 08:20, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

 It is. Somewhere in the deep of Exchange configuration there's a small
 switch ... Must be hidden or something else ...
 Ask your Exchange-Administrator ... beg him, threaten him ... call him
 at home :-)

 John: you, for yourself, can't do anything about this, except
 harassing the Exchange administrator to TURN IT OFF ... :-)

IIRC, there is three options:

1. Always send mail as HTML
2. Always send mail as plain text
3. Let the client decide.

Should be an easy decision for every administrator..

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Anti-Virus Programs.

2002-06-13 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX

Hi,

I'm currently using the Free Version of AVG by Grisoft with the Plug-In to
The Bat! This works well and recently caught Klez and quarantined it. But
after reading the comments about NOD32 and looking at their site and seeing
the comparative speed and scores, I'm thinking of changed to NOD32.

I am reluctant to make the change, because the current set-up seems to work
well.

Is it a simple case of downloading the program and installing the plug-in to
get this up and running? Where can I gain the plug-in?

I'd like NOD32 to be a resident shield as well as an e-mail scanner. I've
read it's a POP3 scanner to, but what are the advantages of this over just
checking when the mail is received?

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Re: New Thread Button? (was RE: IMAP, moving to TB

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marcus,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 9:21:58 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):


MO IIRC, there is three options:

MO 1. Always send mail as HTML
MO 2. Always send mail as plain text
MO 3. Let the client decide.

MO Should be an easy decision for every administrator..

It should :-)
And it seems he choose the wrong one *ggg*
Ergo: it can never be easy enough AND pre-settings are bad, per default. :-)

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Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Paddy,

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 8:44:35 PM you wrote in
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PP What settings are done in Opera for mail client???

PL I ordinarily use Opera  Preferences  E-Mail [X] Use default e-mail
PL client with TB! as default which works fine otherwise.

Don't use Use default e-mail client in Opera if you want it to be The
Bat! that's your primary and default e-mail client.
It will hassle you ... earlier or later.

Use:

PP 'Other client' with settings

PP C:\Path\To\thebat.exe mailto:%t?subject=%sbody=%m

PP and 'Replace missing parameters with space' (or similar) turned off?

This is the recommended setting for combination 'Opera' and 'The Bat!',
even from Operas side ... It's on their official help pages and it makes
sense. Trust me :-)

PL Thanks. I'll try that, but I don't know whether having no space between
PL L and  is anything more than an aesthetic issue.

The space you _see_ is in fact only cosmetic. But between the two settings
'Use default' and 'Other client' there's more difference than only a
cosmetic space. It's a different type of parameter passing .. and only god
(and programmers @ Opera *G*) knows what else is different.

So you'd better advised to change your Opera settings, this way everything
will work fine, EVEN mailto: links you have no control over :-) (*sic* :-))
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Flying tray icon

2002-06-13 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


When there's new mail, the bat on the system tray icon starts to fly.
Being a highly curious person, I just HAVE to open the program at that
point to see what has come in. I have setup TB to check mail every
three minutes, and having subscribed to several mailing lists, I'm
getting new mail all the time.

As a result, I find myself opening The Bat all the time and I'm not
getting any work done!! :)

I'd like to have a folder-based option (or a dedicated filter) that
rules whether or not incoming messages in that folder trigger the
swooping bat. Or that only triggers the bat when eg. incoming mail was
addressed to one of my personal accounts.

I'm not currently using the Mail Ticker because I find that even more
distracting, and it tends to get in the way, whereever I put it. If I
could set a similar trigger for it, and it would integrate into the
task bar, I'd find it much more useful (the windows taskbar usually
occupies just one row, but you can drag its top side upwards to make
it twice as large - plenty of room there for a mail ticker that
doesn't get in the way).

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Re: euro sign

2002-06-13 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 11:26:17 PM, Paul Gleave wrote:

 ... whereas here in the UK I get something resembling a Space
 Invader.

Maybe Margaret Thatcher or someone has been tinkering with it.

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Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-13 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Peter,
 
13. junij 2002, 10:50:52, you wrote:

PP Don't use Use default e-mail client in Opera if you want it to be The
PP Bat! that's your primary and default e-mail client.
PP It will hassle you ... earlier or later.

Why? I use this setting and it works without problems. The bug, which
was in 6.0 has been fixed...

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Re: Flying tray icon

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Daniel,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:24:10 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

DvRC I'm not currently using the Mail Ticker because I find that even more
DvRC distracting, and it tends to get in the way, whereever I put it. If I
DvRC could set a similar trigger for it, and it would integrate into the
DvRC task bar, I'd find it much more useful (the windows taskbar usually
DvRC occupies just one row, but you can drag its top side upwards to make
DvRC it twice as large - plenty of room there for a mail ticker that
DvRC doesn't get in the way).

For exactly the situation you described I _do_ use 'Mail ticker' :-)
Put to the very upper right corner and scaled in size so it does not affect
my 'usual work' it notifies me if there are 'real important' new mails, as
'Mail ticker' is capable to be set up and turn on or off on per folder
basis. So in ML-folders new arriving e-mails are not announced on ticker,
while on several other it's activated :-)

This whole stuff therefore equals a '2-level-notification':

1.) There is unread mail in general (whatever it belongs to) (flapping Bat :-))
2.) There is unread mail you should better have a look at soon (Mail
ticker, really seldom shown because of good filtering *G*)
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Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Jernej,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:35:59 AM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PP Don't use Use default e-mail client in Opera if you want it to be The
PP Bat! that's your primary and default e-mail client.
PP It will hassle you ... earlier or later.

JS Why? I use this setting and it works without problems. The bug, which
JS was in 6.0 has been fixed...

As you can see in Paddys request there seem to be something left. Or Paddy
's using an unfixed 6.0.

In the latter case Paddy should update Opera and give it another try with
'Use Default' _and_ Space.

If this does not work too you have the reason why 'Use Default' seems not
to be the best choice when trying to get Opera working with The Bat! ... :-)
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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@13 June 2002, 23:59:20 -0700 (07:59 UK time) Blarp wrote in
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 It's definitely something to do with the receive process
 but I'll be damned if I can figure out what triggers it. It's very
 annoying.

A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
beeps go.

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Re: Flying tray icon

2002-06-13 Thread Kjartan Mannes

Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:24:10 AM, Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote:
 I'd like to have a folder-based option (or a dedicated filter) that
 rules whether or not incoming messages in that folder trigger the
 swooping bat. Or that only triggers the bat when eg. incoming mail was
 addressed to one of my personal accounts.

Wouldn't it be possible to write a small program that shows a small tray
icon when called from a filter? That way one could make a filter that
calls the program and it shows the the icon. Double clicking on it will
open TheBat! and hide the icon till the next time.

That or wait for v2 which is rumored to have better plugin support.

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Re: address book

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

@13 June 2002, 08:32:18 +0200 (07:32 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP ... it *must* leave your outbox before the filter actually
MDP operates ...

 Does it have to?

- From my testing, that seemed to be the case. Just queuing the message
didn't activate the filter.

 Do you have 'Immediate delivery' enabled?

No, but I have combined send / receive and check every minute. It's
not easy to catch things before they go out.

 Does the Reply-filter hook _really_ rely on that setting? If so:
 it's time to file a bug report, for this becoming changed in v2!
 Reply filters should hook on _any_ form of sending, not on executing
 what's set as default ...

I suppose so. I've just reinstated the filter. I'll keep an eye on it.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:56:10 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
 remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
 to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
 it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
 software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
 beeps go.

It was discussed in a thread during May.  Try searching for the thread
called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives.

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Re[2]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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Greetings Julian,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:40:41 AM, you wrote:

Julian On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:56:10 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
 remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
 to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
 it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
 software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
 beeps go.

Have you tried going into Windows Sounds and Multimedia under the Control
Panel and disabling Window's sounds, most notably ASTERISK, DEFAULT BEEP
and PROGRAM ERROR?

Try it and see if that helps. Worked here and took me about 45 minutes to
determine what the heck was beeping at me all the time.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:58:06 AM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:

 Have you tried going into Windows Sounds and Multimedia under the Control
 Panel and disabling Window's sounds, most notably ASTERISK, DEFAULT BEEP
 and PROGRAM ERROR?

 Try it and see if that helps. Worked here and took me about 45 minutes to
 determine what the heck was beeping at me all the time.

I am not having these problems at the moment, fortunately, but I would
not be happy about turning off system sounds, as they may be trying to
tell me about something I need to know!

I think from the last discussion that one of the possible causes is a
filter producing an error. There was a suggestion that this caused the
sound, although I have been unable to reproduce this.


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Re: Palm Sync.

2002-06-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Joseph,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Business
to write the following on Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 1:01:58 AM.

RR I, as well, know plenty of people that won't switch to The Bat since it
RR doesn't synch to the Palm.

It doesn't sync the address book to the Palm, the Palm-TB! MAPI mail
sync works just fine in my exp. As a matter of fact, in the 1.60 set
they improved it! Used to be that you needed to have TB! the active
app, but now TB! has taken care of it for you. Also, it is faster I
think (never timed it) - My Palm inbox has 230 msgs, and it only takes
a couple of seconds to sync the mail (Pentium III 1.2, and USB port sync).
 Below cut from What's new in The Bat! 1.60?
 [-] Focusing problem upon MAPI calls
 [-] Some bugs in the MAPI support subsystem
 
JN First, TB!'s inbox can go into the Palm. It's not designed to do
JN that, and the conduits won't support it,

The Palm conduits support using MAPI to sync your mail, so it is
supported, but don't bother asking Palm for support getting it set
up... g

JN but Tim Musson (whose name I hope I didn't misspell too badly)

Nope, got it right on, but can you pronounce it correctly? g

JN has instructions in the Bat! archives

It is also in the FAQ that Marck maintains.

JN on how to set the user configuration file to load TB! into a Palm.
JN I do it all the time and it works.

Me to, but I have a separate account for my Palm - looks like it came
from this one though g isn't TB! the best!

JN The AB is different. Personally, I would prefer to have something
JN fully integrated like Outlook or Notes, but Outlook is not a good
JN PIM, and Notes is only for larger or more complex organizations
JN than I am. So I use Lotus Organizer, which is a really good PIM,
JN and combine it with TB! Simple MAPI should make the Org AB work
JN seamlessly in TB! (as it does in Eudora and Becky), but no such
JN luck. So I import it into TB! But I also synch Organizer directly,
JN so what results is this:

JN My Palm has all my contacts and it has my inbox (sometimes
JN attachments, too, but that's another story), as well as tasks,
JN etc. TB! also has my contacts. It all works together very well,
JN but it requires a love for this geeky stuff or else a clearly
JN written guide.

Not a bad solution, but still manual to get in and out of TB! AB...

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Re[2]: 2?

2002-06-13 Thread Adam

Hello Markus,

Wednesday, June 12, 2002, 6:08:15 AM, you wrote:

MG Hi,

MG Paul Cartwright wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Do I need to restart TB for it to work ? is there a special place in the
 reply for that line ?

MG You need to change the account wide quoting style under Account
MG Properties/Templates/Reply.

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Re[2]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Adam

Hello Blarp,

Thursday, June 13, 2002, 3:36:23 AM, you wrote:

B Hi Daniel,

DG TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...

B I've done that. It makes no difference. It's not a new mail sound.

How about the opposite? Any where I could find some good New Mail
sounds?

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Re: Palm Sync.

2002-06-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Rick,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal
to write the following on Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:32:38 AM.

TM (and in the scheme of things, the people that want to sync their
TM Palm's and the TBab are a fairly small number of registered
TM TBers...)

FF I do not know how many Palm users there are in The Bat! world,
FF but I would be willing to bet that there are plenty! Also, having
FF a Palm conduit to TB's address book gives me one more very useful
FF reason to recommend TB to other users. It would really help.

I agree, I want it enough to pay for it. What I meant is my guess at
the number of Palm/TB users is less than 5-10% the number of TB users.

RR I, as well, know plenty of people that won't switch to The Bat
RR since it doesn't synch to the Palm.

TB has 2 things that match apps on the Palm - mail and AB, so I
wouldn't say that TB doesn't sync to the Palm. It just doesn't sync
the AB.

RR More and more people like having all their devices integrated.

I am one of them.

RR That's one advantage Outlook
~Shudder~
RR has in the market right now. It's very frustrating that I have one
RR set of contacts in my palm and then another in the bat (then
RR another in my cell phone..but that's not the Bat's fault:) and yet
RR none of them synch with each other.

I am trying to get something coordinated, but, I don't program in
anything that would be appropriate (perl is my language), so about all
I can do is hope/push/facilitate/coordinate/whatever... g

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Re[3]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Adam,

Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:32:55 PM you wrote:


A How about the opposite? Any where I could find some good New Mail
A sounds?

I propose you search for .wav with Google. There is some good places
there. Here are some of those, I use.

www.wavcentral.com

www.dailywav.com

www.wavsite.com

I don't use standard mail sounds, but quotes from films.

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Re: 2?

2002-06-13 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Adam wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Is there some confusion of what decides it, this or folder template?

A folder template overrides an account template.

Regards,

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Re: AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 8:10 PM on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 you wrote the
following about [AVG or NOD32?]:

   Where does one get the TB! plug-in?

 Thanks for the URLs. Is there some way to ask RIT labs to
 consider a plug-in for PC-cillin or how does that work?

 TIA

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Re: NOD BAV

2002-06-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Joseph.

At 10:07 PM on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 you wrote the
following about [NOD BAV]:

MDP a frenzy of false positivity

JN Sounds like the 80's

  A very funny line. Thanks for the chuckle.

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Re: AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@13 June 2002, 08:37:52 -0400 (13:37 UK time) Jan Rifkinson wrote in
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   Where does one get the TB! plug-in?

  Thanks for the URLs. Is there some way to ask RIT labs to
  consider a plug-in for PC-cillin or how does that work?

The AVG and Dr.Web plug ins were written by the AV authors themselves.
Sample source code for plug-ins was published on the TBBETA list and
if the PC-cillin authors want to put the effort in they could produce
a plug in from that quite easily themselves.

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Re: AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 8:56 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2002 you wrote the
following about [AVG or NOD32?]:

 Is there some way to ask RIT labs to consider a plug-in
 for PC-cillin or how does that work?

MDP The AVG and Dr.Web plug ins were written by the AV
MDP authors themselves. Sample source code for plug-ins was
MDP published on the TBBETA list and if the PC-cillin
MDP authors want to put the effort in they could produce a
MDP plug in from that quite easily themselves.

  I'm assuming RIT labs wrote the others, then. And if so,
  how would I go about asking them to consider a PC-cillin
  plug-in as they might be more responsive than the Trend
  Micro folk?

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net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey All,

I was reading What's new in The Bat! 1.60? and came across:

[*] More URL types added: telnet, gopher, snews and file://

So thought I would give it a try...

telnet://10.11.12.13
file://d:\dir\file.txt

both work, but I get 2 windows!  I double click on the telnet:// line
and get 2 telnet sessions.  I double click on the File:// line and get
2 notepad's!

Any one else see this?

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Re: net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello Tim,
 
13. junij 2002, 15:07:19, you wrote:

TM Any one else see this?

Are you using RTV or PTV? If it's RTV, you only have to click once.

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Re: net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Tim,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 3:07:19 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

TM both work, but I get 2 windows!  I double click on the telnet:// line
TM and get 2 telnet sessions.  I double click on the File:// line and get
TM 2 notepad's!

TM Any one else see this?

Yes. In PTV (Plain Text Viewer) I get 2 windows too. When viewing your mail
in RTV a single click opened exactly one window per link.
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Re: net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 15:07, Tim Musson wrote:

 telnet://10.11.12.13
 file://d:\dir\file.txt

 both work, but I get 2 windows!  I double click on the telnet:// line
 and get 2 telnet sessions.  I double click on the File:// line and get
 2 notepad's!

 Any one else see this?

Yes, when double clicking the links in the editor. If I double click in
the preview pane only one window opens though.

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Re: AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

@13 June 2002, 09:03:01 -0400 (14:03 UK time) Jan Rifkinson wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP The AVG and Dr.Web plug ins were written by the AV
MDP authors themselves. Sample source code for plug-ins was
MDP published on the TBBETA list and if the PC-cillin
MDP authors want to put the effort in they could produce a
MDP plug in from that quite easily themselves.

   I'm assuming RIT labs wrote the others, then. And if so,
   how would I go about asking them to consider a PC-cillin
   plug-in as they might be more responsive than the Trend
   Micro folk?

It's that responsive thing. If they're unresponsive about developing
a plug in when given a source code template how responsive do you
think they will be about publishing or revealing the entry points into
their code to allow another software manufacturer to use them? I think
there's almost less chance of that than them developing the plug in!

Besides, I personally would rather see the very small RITlabs team
concentrate on getting V2 coded and Trend's very large team
concentrate on spreading the use of their AV product. If that means
spending half a day filling in the blanks in a source code template
for a plug-in, it's a good investment.

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TB Is Crawling

2002-06-13 Thread Michael T. Ashby

I posted to the list at the end of last week, but didn't have any
success finding solution. I have a little bit more information, so I
thought I'd take another run at the list and see if anyone has any
suggestions. :)

We have several employees all running TB 1.60q on Windows98 boxes.
Most everyone has had no problems with TB, but I have two workstations
that are giving me fits.

Specifically, when an e-mail is deferred to the Outbox, there is a
delay of 15 - 30 seconds before the program responds and continues. In
other words, when a user clicks the Put the letter in the Outbox
button, there is a long delay, where the program does absolutely
nothing and will not respond before the e-mail is placed in the
Outbox. Keep in mind, that the e-mail is NOT being sent immediately,
so (to my knowledge), there is no interaction with the POP3 server
that is being used to send the mail.

Since the mailboxes are stored on the server, I have added the exact
same accounts to other workstations and have not experienced any
delays whatsoever. This leads me to believe that the error is
localized to the workstation and not to any server issues.

I have un-installed TB, rebooted and re-installed TB only to have the
same delays continue.

Does anyone have any suggestions of how or why this is happening?
Unfortunately, both users receive a good bit of e-mail, so throughout
the day, these delays are driving them nuts.

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Re: AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 9:21 AM on Thursday, June 13, 2002 you wrote the
following about [AVG or NOD32?]:

MDP [...] I personally would rather see the very small
MDP RITlabs team concentrate on getting V2 coded and
MDP Trend's very large team concentrate on spreading the
MDP use of their AV product. If that means spending half a
MDP day filling in the blanks in a source code template
MDP for a plug-in, it's a good investment.

  You're right.

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remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Rick Reumann

It seems like even though I remove certain columns, each time I
restart The Bat, the old columns are still present. How do I get my
changes to stick? (I don't have Use the Account Folder settings
checked).

TIA

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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Rick Reumann

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 9:41:37 AM, Rick wrote:

RR It seems like even though I remove certain columns, each time I
RR restart The Bat, the old columns are still present. How do I get
RR my changes to stick? (I don't have Use the Account Folder settings
RR checked).

Maybe I'm hallucinating, it seems to be remembering them today.
Not sure what I had screwed up. Still if there is anything I need
to be aware of when changing folder settings, let me know.

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Re: TB Is Crawling

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@13 June 2002, 08:31:22 -0500 (14:31 UK time) Michael T. Ashby wrote
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 Specifically, when an e-mail is deferred to the Outbox, there is a
 delay of 15 - 30 seconds before the program responds and continues.

snip

 Does anyone have any suggestions of how or why this is happening?

Are these outbox folders configured to Compress on exit? I'll bet
they are uncompressed and occupy many megabytes, all of which are
traversed, one deleted (sent) message at a time, every time a new
outbound message is saved to it.

That's my guess. Compress the outbox folders and see what happens.

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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Rick,

@13 June 2002, 09:46:14 -0400 (14:46 UK time) Rick Reumann wrote in
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 Maybe I'm hallucinating, it seems to be remembering them today.
 Not sure what I had screwed up. Still if there is anything I need
 to be aware of when changing folder settings, let me know.

Some settings are only saved on exit. If TB undergoes summary
termination (power loss, task management, crash or some such) then
certain configuration changes may get lost. This is at its most
dangerous when it comes to folder hierarchy changes. I *always* exit
and reload whenever I make such changes.

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Re: net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Peter,

My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal
to write the following on Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 9:16:41 AM.

TM double click on the telnet://10.11.12.13 line
TM Any one else see this?

PP Yes. In PTV (Plain Text Viewer) I get 2 windows too. When viewing
PP your mail in RTV a single click opened exactly one window per
PP link.

Yep, that was it, I never much liked the RTV.  Interesting bug in the
PTV window though...  Will submit it when I get a chance.

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Re[2]: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

   On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
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MDP Some settings are only saved on exit. If TB undergoes summary
MDP termination (power loss, task management, crash or some such) then
MDP certain configuration changes may get lost. This is at its most
MDP dangerous when it comes to folder hierarchy changes. I *always* exit
MDP and reload whenever I make such changes.


Marck,

That information seems pretty critical.  It ought to be emphasized in
some fashion to new users, like an initial splash screen or the first time
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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 15:55, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Some settings are only saved on exit. If TB undergoes summary
 termination (power loss, task management, crash or some such) then
 certain configuration changes may get lost. This is at its most
 dangerous when it comes to folder hierarchy changes.

What do you mean by dangerous? Do I risk loosing more than just the
recently made changes of the folder hierarchy (by recently I mean all
changes made since the last exit/restart of TB!)?

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Re: net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 15:57, Tim Musson wrote:

 Yep, that was it, I never much liked the RTV.  Interesting bug in the
 PTV window though...  Will submit it when I get a chance.

Even more interresting, I use the PTV and it works as it should here.
Forgot to mention which viewer I'm using when sending my last mail to
this thread.

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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@13 June 2002, 16:08:00 +0200 (15:08 UK time) Marcus Ohlström wrote in
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 What do you mean by dangerous? Do I risk loosing more than just the
 recently made changes of the folder hierarchy ..

Yes. I have lost folder contents. If a folder has been moved then its
contents are in the new location. If the hierarchy change is lost then
the folder reappears where it was but will be empty. Simply creating a
folder in the new position will recover the lost messages, so it's not
actually serious. It can be a shock to the unprepared tough.

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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi  Joseph,

@13 June 2002, 09:07:12 -0500 (15:07 UK time) Joseph N. wrote in
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MDP Some settings are only saved on exit

 That information seems pretty critical. It ought to be emphasized in
 some fashion to new users, like an initial splash screen or the
 first time configuration options are changed.

... or it should be fixed! The problem is that I've never been
masochistic enough to want put my settings through the changes and
crashes needed to analyze the affected settings to be able to submit
an effective bug report. It's clearly not supposed to be that way.

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Re: net telnet:// RUL function...

2002-06-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Marcus Ohlström wrote...

 Even more interresting, I use the PTV and it works as it should here.
 Forgot to mention which viewer I'm using when sending my last mail to
 this thread.

Mine works fine too, and I use PTV on 1.60c.

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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 16:30, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 Simply creating a folder in the new position will recover the lost
 messages, so it's not actually serious.

Sounds like the good old shift-ctrl-alt-L would do the job :-)

 It can be a shock to the unprepared tough.

True. I was egoistic enough to only think about my own security...

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Re[2]: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

   On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
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 That information seems pretty critical. It ought to be emphasized in
 some fashion to new users, like an initial splash screen or the
 first time configuration options are changed.

MDP ... or it should be fixed! The problem is that I've never been
MDP masochistic enough to want put my settings through the changes and
MDP crashes needed to analyze the affected settings to be able to submit
MDP an effective bug report. It's clearly not supposed to be that way.


Marck,

Yes.  It's precisely the kind of issue that will lead to scores of
lost mail reports, which is not what the program's reputation needs
if it's going to go after a wider audience.

In another post, you mentioned that, when the interruption has
occurred in the course of moving a folder, you can create a new folder
in the new place and all is fixed.  How does the newly created folder
'capture' the moved message base, though?

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Re[2]: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

   On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Marcus Ohlström wrote in
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 Simply creating a folder in the new position will recover the lost
 messages, so it's not actually serious.

MO Sounds like the good old shift-ctrl-alt-L would do the job :-)

Marcus,

What will shift-ctrl-alt-L do?

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which cleans out more space? and questions/comments

2002-06-13 Thread Rick Reumann

Sorry for not searching the archives I'm sure this has come up and I'm
being a jerk for not searching. Not a pressing question but just
curious does
Purge or Compress all folders clear out more space. I think purge
does a purge and compress and compress just compresses? If so
shouldn't the menu item say purge and compress?  Also I'm not really
sure what purge is. Why would you ever want to just compress without
purging? (or vice versa if there is way to purge without compressing).

Also, I had my trash folders to set to compress on exit, but noticed
my other folders weren't on this setting. Is there way to set compress
all folders on exit?

Someone's post here was about taking a long time when the message went
to the outfolder and the recommending compressing. I just compressed
all folders and wow, what a difference! Before when I would go to some
of my boxes it would take a while to see the messages sometimes. This
obviously must have been because I was daily deleting out 100s of
messages without ever compressing the main folder boxes.

Does the Bat have some kind of reminder or something? I mean your
casual user might remember to clean out the trash bin but many might
not think it's that important compress folders. Obviously it is,
however. Something should trigger the user that they should probably
compress their folders if it gets really bad. Just a thought, then
again, your average joe might not be using the Bat. Curious, does
Outlook have to do something similar? I don't remember having to
copress with OE, but then again it's been A LONG time since I've used
it.


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prev/next messages

2002-06-13 Thread Ravindra Maharaj


I'm sure I'm being blind here - because it must be somewhere, but I'm
not seeing it.

Is there a way to move to the Prev/Next message (sorted by received
time if that matters) via a hotkey or menu entry?

If you have focus on the message list, of course it's Up/Down - but
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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 16:42, Joseph N. wrote:

 What will shift-ctrl-alt-L do?

It makes TB! search for lost folders. Only works when focus is on the
folder list pane.

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Re: remember column settings?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@13 June 2002, 09:41:27 -0500 (15:41 UK time) Joseph N. wrote in
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 Yes.  It's precisely the kind of issue that will lead to scores of
 lost mail reports, which is not what the program's reputation needs
 if it's going to go after a wider audience.

Agreed.

 ... create a new folder in the new place and all is fixed. How does
 the newly created folder 'capture' the moved message base, though?

When you create a new folder where one already exists, you are
informed There's already a folder there. Proceed?. Say yes, click
out of the folder, click into the folder and the contents refresh to
show the missing messages.

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Re: which cleans out more space? and questions/comments

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi  Rick,

@13 June 2002, 10:42:48 -0400 (15:42 UK time) Rick Reumann wrote in
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 shouldn't the menu item say purge and compress?

There is such an option.

 Also I'm not really sure what purge is. Why would you ever want to
 just compress without purging? (or vice versa if there is way to
 purge without compressing).

Purge will delete message that exceed the folders storage
specifications, i.e. if the folder is configured to keep only 400
messages then the most recent 400 are kept while the earlier messages
are purged. If the folder is restricted to keep messages for 30 days
then older messages are purged. That's what purge does.

Compress will reconstruct the folder to finally remove purged and
deleted messages (which, up to that point, have been retained but
marked as deleted).

 Also, I had my trash folders to set to compress on exit, but noticed
 my other folders weren't on this setting. Is there way to set
 compress all folders on exit?

This is now an account level property on the Options page - Compress
all folders on exit.

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Re: prev/next messages

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi  Ravindra,

@13 June 2002, 15:45:27 +0100 Ravindra Maharaj wrote in
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 Is there a way to move to the Prev/Next message (sorted by received
 time if that matters) via a hotkey or menu entry?

 If you have focus on the message list, of course it's Up/Down - but
 I'd like to be able to do it while focus is on the message window.

Ctrl-Up/Down will do that. Also Ctrl-]/[ will navigate you through
unread messages.

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AVG or NOD32?

2002-06-13 Thread Weaven, ChristopherX

 Hi all,
 
 I think the title say's it all, should I use AVG or NOD32 as my
 Anti-Virus?
 
 I must confess, AVG seems to be working seamlessly with The Bat!, but I
 have concerns that AVG isn't as good as it could be at trapping virus's
 (although, it did catch Klez yesterday and added it to the quarantine!).
 Whereas, I here NOD32 is really good at it's job, but isn't quite as
 seamless with The Bat!
 
 If I used NOD32, I'd like it to link in with The Bat! and scan when mails
 come in rather than on the server, but it appears there's a problem with
 the options once the plug-in is added?
 
 Can people elaborate and help me make this decision?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris.


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Re[2]: which cleans out more space? and questions/comments

2002-06-13 Thread Rick Reumann


On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:57:40 AM, Marck wrote:


 Also, I had my trash folders to set to compress on exit, but noticed
 my other folders weren't on this setting. Is there way to set
 compress all folders on exit?

MDP This is now an account level property on the Options page - Compress
MDP all folders on exit.

 Cool! Never saw this option (how can you see them all.. The Bat
 has so many:)

 Thanks so much

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SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

our administrators are threatening to disable POP3 on our Exchange server.
They claim they are getting to many foreign (invalid) connection attempts
and this is slowing down the server overall.

I have a hard time believing this but I'm not in the position to tell them
that there assumptions are wrong. If they really disable POP3 it would
mean that I would have to give up the Bat! and my productivity would
decrease tremendously.

Any suggestions what I can do? What can I tell the administrators? Could I
use LookOut to just fetch the mail and get it into the Bat somehow? Is
there something like an Exchange proxy client that would translate my POP3
requests to Exchange protocol?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

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Re: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Markus Gloede wrote...

 our administrators are threatening to disable POP3 on our Exchange server.
 They claim they are getting to many foreign (invalid) connection attempts
 and this is slowing down the server overall.

Tell them to change the settings on the firewall to accept only known
connections... like your LAN, unless they want external users from
accessing the mail. POP3 is an uncommon point of entry for hackers,
they normally try SSH, Telnet, FTP, RAS, VPN, etc. You may also maybe
suggest moving POP3 to another port to fool most attempts.

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Re: Flying tray icon

2002-06-13 Thread Nick Danger

Subject: Flying Tray Icon
   From: Kjartan Mannes
~~

Hello Kjartan,

 Wouldn't it be possible to write a small program that shows a small tray
 icon when called from a filter? That way one could make a filter that
 calls the program and it shows the the icon. Double clicking on it will
 open TheBat! and hide the icon till the next time.

I've done just that with a program called PowerPro. Depending upon
what filter catches the mail a small (5x5 pixel) flag pops up in the
corner of my screen. Different colors for different filters.  Clicking
on them pops me to the virtual desktop where TB! is and resets the
flags.

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Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-13 Thread Paddy L

Hello Peter,
Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:41:40 AM, you wrote:

PP As you can see in Paddys request there seem to be something left. Or Paddy
PP 's using an unfixed 6.0.

PP In the latter case Paddy should update Opera and give it another try with
PP 'Use Default' _and_ Space.

I am using 6.04.1120. I've used previous versions also with no problems
with Use Default. I also tried Use Specific E-Mail Client with
various suggested parameters, to no avail.

For me, it's a tedious and slow process of trial and error. At least I
have it down to Paddy L[EMAIL PROTECTED].  Will the lack of a space
between L and   likely cause problems?

The HTML table I will be distributing will be used by various browsers
and mailers.

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Re: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-13 Thread Paddy L

Hello Peter,
Thursday, June 13, 2002, 2:41:40 AM, you wrote:

PP Hello Jernej,

PP On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:35:59 AM you wrote in
PP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PP Don't use Use default e-mail client in Opera if you want it to be The
PP Bat! that's your primary and default e-mail client.
PP It will hassle you ... earlier or later.

JS Why? I use this setting and it works without problems. The bug, which
JS was in 6.0 has been fixed...

I just changed Mozilla 1.0 to use TB! for default e-mail client. Mozilla
handles the HTML as it should. Apparently an Opera bug as you insisted.

Using Mozilla
a href=mailto:Paddy%20L%20lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;Paddy L/a
produces in TB!
Paddy L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One last question, does the addressing conform to standards or should I
remove the quotes?

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Re: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Jonathan Angliss wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Tell them to change the settings on the firewall to accept only known
 connections... like your LAN, unless they want external users from
 accessing the mail. POP3 is an uncommon point of entry for hackers,
 they normally try SSH, Telnet, FTP, RAS, VPN, etc. You may also maybe
 suggest moving POP3 to another port to fool most attempts.

Thank you, these were also my suggestions. I also suggested changing the
welcome banner (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q303513).

Now they are telling me 'how do you know the Bat is safe?' And 'Outlook comes
from a big and respected company, the Bat might come from some small bunch
of hackers.' I'm really miffed (to put it lightly).

Regards,

Markus
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Deleting Mail

2002-06-13 Thread Andy Fluke

When I delete an email or an attachment from a folder, what happens to
it?  How is it removed from my hard disk?  I've dug through TheBat
help file but if the answer is there I missed it.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Blarp

Hi Julian,

JBL It was discussed in a thread during May.  Try searching for the thread
JBL called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives.

I searched the thread in the archives and the only thing I could find
that might apply was a reference to changing the POP3 access timeout
(but I couldn't find the message that said how to do this).

FWIW, I am running a firewall (Tiny Personal) and it's never caused
problems with apps before. There are no filters in place that delete
messages. It is definitely the Windows Stop or error sound (thunk).

Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat
(somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a
step in the right direction since it's always played at least once
during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times.

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Re: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Markus Gloede wrote...

 Thank you, these were also my suggestions. I also suggested changing the
 welcome banner (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q303513).

Another good idea... if they don't know what they're accessing, they
cannot research weaknesses ;)

 Now they are telling me 'how do you know the Bat is safe?' And
 'Outlook comes from a big and respected company, the Bat might come
 from some small bunch of hackers.' I'm really miffed (to put it
 lightly).

Erm... take a look at any of the last 50 viruses that have hit the
news... what email client to they specifically target?  Plus, if the
firewall was setup correctly, having a worm on the inside of the
network shouldn't really matter, as it shouldn't be able to get out...
along with a centralized virus scanning system... and you have no
problems.  Plus, I think if TB! was a threat, they'd have been shut
down... ;)

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Re[2]: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Bill Blinn, Technology Editor

It seems that Markus Gloede said ...

M Now they are telling me 'how do you know the Bat is safe?' And 'Outlook comes
M from a big and respected company, the Bat might come from some small bunch
M of hackers.' I'm really miffed (to put it lightly).

Yeah. Outlook, which one of the Toronto newspapers termed LookOut! a
few years ago during one of the (many) virus attacks that spread
through Outlook users faster than a wildfire through a California
condominium complex. Hand them a small amount of money and tell them
they can buy a small clue. It won't be much of a clue, but it will be
better than what they have now.


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Re: Deleting Mail

2002-06-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Andy Fluke wrote...

 When I delete an email or an attachment from a folder, what happens to
 it?  How is it removed from my hard disk?  I've dug through TheBat
 help file but if the answer is there I missed it.

I think initially it is flagged for deletion, and then gets hidden
from the main view, but you can display them again by going to Folder
- Browse Deleted Messages.  IIRC, when you purge the folders, it then
removes those deleted messages, possibly by reading the database of
messages, and deleting the message, as for attachments that are
separate, I have no idea.

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Re: Deleting Mail

2002-06-13 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Andy.

At 1:14 PM on Thursday, June 13, 2002 you wrote the
following about [Deleting Mail]:

AF When I delete an email or an attachment from a folder,
AF what happens to it? How is it removed from my hard disk?
AF I've dug through TheBat help file but if the answer is
AF there I missed it.

  I believe it first goes to your trash folder in TB!  when
  that is emptied it is deleted from your hard disk,
  bypassing the recycle bin.

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Re: prev/next messages

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Marck,

on Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:58:41 +0100GMT (13.06.02, 16:58 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Is there a way to move to the Prev/Next message (sorted by received
 time if that matters) via a hotkey or menu entry?

MDP Ctrl-Up/Down will do that. Also Ctrl-]/[ will navigate you through
MDP unread messages.

For anglo-saxon keyboards this may be true. It doesn't work on my german
one. I get the next unread message with ctrl + right arrow. It has been
like that from my beginning with 1.49... I never saw it documented
anywhere. Btw. on my keyboard ctrl + ] would mean to type ctrl + right alt
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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:16:16 PM, Blarp wrote:

 FWIW, I am running a firewall (Tiny Personal) and it's never caused
 problems with apps before. There are no filters in place that delete
 messages. It is definitely the Windows Stop or error sound (thunk).

The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly
during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower
than TB's time out.  You cannot adjust the timeout.

 Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat
 (somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a
 step in the right direction since it's always played at least once
 during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times.

You could submit it as a bug - there is obviously something wrong, so
TB should tell you want it is. Maybe one of the developers will know
what events generate these warnings. The URL of the Bug Report site is
at the bottom of this message.

Are you sure that it is TB generating the sound, and not some other
application that TB is affecting?

Julian

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Re[2]: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion

2002-06-13 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Paddy,


Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 6:41:04 PM you wrote:


PL I am using 6.04.1120.

Is it a beta? I cannot see more than version 6.03 on their homepage.

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Re[2]: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Markus,

 



Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 7:12:54 PM you wrote:


MG Now they are telling me 'how do you know the Bat is safe?' And 'Outlook comes
MG from a big and respected company, the Bat might come from some small bunch
MG of hackers.' I'm really miffed (to put it lightly).

Are you sure those people are payed workers? It sounds like they know
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Re: Deleting Mail

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Andy,

on Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:14:26 -0400GMT (13.06.02, 19:14 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

AF When I delete an email or an attachment from a folder, what happens to
AF it?  How is it removed from my hard disk?

In addition to Jonathan's proposals I'd recommend to compress all folders
after deleting and purging. If you want to be _absolutely_ sure, that no
trace of your deleted messages is left, you'd need a tool like PGP's Wipe
feature or something like Eraser (that's what I use:
http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/ ).
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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Blarp

Hi Julian,

JBL The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly
JBL during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower
JBL than TB's time out.  You cannot adjust the timeout.

Shoot, that's it then. The stop sound on my setup is the same (for
some reason) as the Windows Question sound. You're right, it is the
question sound then so it could be a mail server error of some sort.

Does TB keep any detailed logs of SMTP/POP3 activity? The FETCH is not
very informative.

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BAV and S/MIME

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

Do those of you more experienced in the ways of the NOD BAV know
whether its processing of mail could result in an alteration to file
contents so that CRC checks fail for archive (ZIP) integrity, or
S/MIME verification comes up 'invalid'?

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Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

Is there a quick and easy mouse/menu way to reply with only a
selection quoted, i.e., the same result as making a selection and then
pressing F4?

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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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 Is there a quick and easy mouse/menu way to reply with only a
 selection quoted, i.e., the same result as making a selection and then
 pressing F4?

Specials | Reply quoting selected text.

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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Ravindra Maharaj



 Is there a quick and easy mouse/menu way to reply with only a
 selection quoted, i.e., the same result as making a selection and then
 pressing F4?

Use the menu entry:

Specials -- Reply quoting selected text.


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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Joseph,
On Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 13:42:06 [GMT -0500], you wrote:

JN Is there a quick and easy mouse/menu way to reply with only a
JN selection quoted, i.e., the same result as making a selection and
JN then pressing F4?

Do you mean mouse only? Then you have to use the menu as indicated in
the other messages.

Or you can press SHIFT while clicking the reply button.

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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, June 13, 2002, 8:45:35 PM, you wrote:

MDP Specials | Reply quoting selected text.

I still feel strongly that the default behavior should be, that when
text is selected when reply is pressed, that should only be quoted.
It feels natural and it free's up a function key and menu entry.

Less is more in good software design.

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Re[3]: SOT: POP3 lock out - alternatives?

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

   On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Britt Malka wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

BM  It sounds like they know
BM nothing about I.T.

I haven't met an IT person yet who's heard of The Bat!  And, while MS
may not have the best performing applications, giving high marks to
its presence in the marketplace sounds like perfectly pitched
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Re[2]: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Joseph N.

   On Thursday, June 13, 2002, Gerard wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

G I still feel strongly that the default behavior should be, that when
G text is selected when reply is pressed, that should only be quoted.

A second enthusiastic vote here.  My newsreader (Xnews) operates that
way, and it all works very smoothly.  If nothing in particular is
selected, then it's all quoted.  Should be like that here, too.

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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Gerard [G],

On 13-06-2002 21:22, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

G I still feel strongly that the default behavior should be, that when
G text is selected when reply is pressed, that should only be quoted.

I agree 100%

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Re[2]: Flying tray icon

2002-06-13 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Peter,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:38:52 AM, you wrote:

PP For exactly the situation you described I _do_ use 'Mail ticker' :-)

Nice idea.  Only I have disabled the Mail Ticker and can't get it to
work properly.  I have set Display MailTicker to Automatically but
mail that is coming into my Inbox is not causing the mail ticker to be
displayed (even though the inbox does have Show unread messages on
MailTicker selected)

Hmmm  :S

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The Bat! Mail Fonts.

2002-06-13 Thread Chris Weaven

Hi,

Maybe I'm being basic, but can I change the font used for e-mail
messages in The Bat!

If so, can new ones be added and if so, what folder do I need to add
them to to make them available in The Bat!

Also, is there a way of making the I capital if it's placed on it's
own rather than a small i?

Thanks,

Chris Weaven

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Re[4]: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Chris Weaven

Here here, get's my vote too.

(It's great to be using The Bat! rather than Outlook 2000!)

Chris Weaven

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Original message received from Ben Kennish on 13/06/02

BK Hi Joseph,

BK On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 8:32:00 PM, you wrote:

JN A second enthusiastic vote here.  My newsreader (Xnews) operates that
JN way, and it all works very smoothly.  If nothing in particular is
JN selected, then it's all quoted.  Should be like that here, too.

BK And another vote from me  :)



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Number Of The Bat! Users.

2002-06-13 Thread Chris Weaven

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the place to add this, but it was mentioned
there's about 700 people on this distribution, but I was wondering if
there was an estimated figure to how many people *Worldwide* use this
product?

I know it might not be a fair reflection, but can you also tell how
many people have downloaded it from your site?

I just thinks it's great to be using a quality product that's
recognised Worldwide.

Cheers,

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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Ben,

 And another vote from me  :)

And from me.

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Re: Number Of The Bat! Users.

2002-06-13 Thread Marek Mikus

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Chris Weaven wrote:

 I'm not sure if this is the place to add this, but it was mentioned
 there's about 700 people on this distribution, but I was wondering if
 there was an estimated figure to how many people *Worldwide* use this
 product?

 I know it might not be a fair reflection, but can you also tell how
 many people have downloaded it from your site?

 I just thinks it's great to be using a quality product that's
 recognised Worldwide.

as I remember, in KasperskyRitlabs's pressrelease about antivirus plugin
for The Bat! was mentioned over five million users world-wide :-)

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Re: Mouse variant of F4?

2002-06-13 Thread Adam

Hello Joseph,

Thursday, June 13, 2002, 4:12:06 PM, you wrote:

JN Is there a quick and easy mouse/menu way to reply with only a
JN selection quoted, i.e., the same result as making a selection and then
JN pressing F4?

Download the lastest Microsoft Intellimouse drivers.  Then set a
button to F4.

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Re: Deleting Mail

2002-06-13 Thread Haico

On 13-6-2002 at 20:10, Peter Meyns wrote:

Hi Peter

 In addition to Jonathan's proposals I'd recommend to compress all folders
 after deleting and purging. If you want to be _absolutely_ sure, that no
 trace of your deleted messages is left, you'd need a tool like PGP's Wipe
 feature or something like Eraser (that's what I use:
 http://www.tolvanen.com/eraser/ ).

He stopped developing it.. Someone took over and this is the
new link: http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/

Greetings,
Haico



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Opera 6.04 Beta (WAS: HTML MailTo, Recipient Name + Address Insertion)

2002-06-13 Thread Paddy L


Hello Britt,
Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:05:04 AM, you wrote:


BM Is it a beta? I cannot see more than version 6.03 on their homepage.

Yes, a public one.
http://people.opera.com/~windows/snapshot/o604_1120.exe


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Re: Opera 6.04 Beta

2002-06-13 Thread Peter Fjelsten

Paddy [P],

On 13-06-2002 22:39, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
BM Is it a beta? I cannot see more than version 6.03 on their homepage.

P Yes, a public one.
P http://people.opera.com/~windows/snapshot/o604_1120.exe

As directed by Sue Sims you should not post links to public betas outside
news://news.opera.com/opera.beta. In that news group you will find
info on changes, bug fixes, etc.

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