Re: Template Questions

2002-07-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Chris,

@13 July 2002, 22:26 -0500 (04:26 UK time)  Chris Montgomery [CM] in
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CM   Where are the default templates defined for common folders?

They aren't!

CM   ... would it make more sense to move my mailing list addresses
CM   into a group under an address book? For the moment, I want to
CM   use the same reply template for all mailing list addresses.

It would make a large amount of sense and is the way I organise it. In
fact, I have two groups - Lists and Lists (signed), the latter being
for lists on which I PGP sign my messages. I have subverted some of
the fields of my address book entries to vary the signature per list
without having to use custom templates and use a single group template
set for each group.

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Re: Create shortcut to log on user

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Andy,

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:51:07 +0100 GMT (13/07/02, 04:51 +0700 GMT),
Andy Morrison wrote:

AM Is it possible to create a shortcut with a command line parameter
AM to log on a particular user in a multi-user environment when
AM starting TB! ?

Yes, but it seems to be missing from command line parameters section
in the help file.

IIRC the parameter is account=, and you can also give the password
(probably using passw=, but this is just a guess).

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Is the Internet a free country? (was: Component Loading ZAP 3.0.133 Alert /NAV 2002/TB!)

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Greg,

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:16:22 -0500 GMT (13/07/02, 05:16 +0700 GMT),
Greg Strong wrote:

GS I here what your saying. I've had some things pulled on me and
GS software I own. Personally I like to get my hands on the SOB. After
GS that the MF would learn no legal system would be required. g

Of course you don't mean it. I don't think you want to go back to oure
Darwinistic times; every society has rules, which are written down and
called laws and which are being upheld by a legal system.

Otherwise you make your own laws (based on your personal values), your
neighbour has other personal values and otehr laws, and suddenly he
comes over punches you in the nose. For something which according to
your own set of values was OK. The agreement on values and laws that
are the same for everyone is one of the basic features of
civilisation.

JA Unfortunately a very difficult thing to do, although a couple of US server
JA operators have started taking legal actions against a number of
JA Romanians with co-operation with the FBI, and CIA, for illegal use of
JA servers, and DDoS attacking servers.

GS Glad to hear it.
[...]

GS Personally I don't want laws to impact use of the internet. The
GS internet is the one thing in this world that offers to some degree
GS the free exchange of ideals across all borders. This is the true
GS potential of the internet. It is this means which offers a balance
GS of power which is necessary.

You are contradicting yourself. Everything should be freely
accessable, except when it is to your personal disadvantage. There
should be no laws, but you are glad to hear that FBI and CIA try to
prosecute Romanian people. If there are / should be no laws, they
could not have violated any, so why do you want to prosecute people in
the first place?

GS I think this thread has meandered a little off topic, but good non the
GS less.  :Þ)

ACK. F'up2tbot. :-)

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Re: Template Questions

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Chris,

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:26:32 -0500 GMT (13/07/02, 10:26 +0700 GMT),
Chris Montgomery wrote:

CM   All of my mailing list messages are filtered into individual common
CM   folders.

As you are probably subscribed to each mailng list only with one
address, why don't you use folders in the appropriate account? - Just
curious.

CM So, would it make more sense to move my mailing list addresses
CM into a group under an address book? For the moment, I want to use
CM the same reply template for all mailing list addresses.

Yes, that would be smart. I would not use folder templates, and those
have lead to PM's being sent to the list in the past. Always very
entertaining for those not involved. ;-)

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Re: Create shortcut to log on user

2002-07-13 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Andy,

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:51:07 +0100GMT (12-7-02, 23:51 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

AM Is it possible to create a shortcut with a command line parameter
AM to log on a particular user in a multi-user environment when
AM starting TB! ?

Yes, it is. Use the /focus parameter.
From the help:

The /FOCUS command allows you to automatically focus a specified folder in the main 
window. This command is especially useful at the program's startup. The syntax of the 
/FOCUS command is:


/FOCUS[parameter1[;parameter2[;parameter3[...]]]

Acceptable parameters are (a parameter may be identified by two or more names):

USER=value or U=value value is the name of the source account. If no
FOLDER parameter is specified, the target folder will be the Inbox of
the given account.

PASSWORD=value or P=value value is the password which will unlock the
account if it is needed.

FOLDER=value or F=value value is the target folder's pathname. If the
pathname does not include an account name, The Bat! will search all
accounts for a folder with a matching name; the first folder found
will be used as the target folder. If the specified folder is not
found, the Inbox folder of the target account is used.

Examples of the /FOCUS command:

/FOCUSU=My account 1;F=Friends\Sam
/FocusF=\\MyAccount\New mail;P=mypass



BTW Would it be possible for you to set your wrapping specs a bit
shorter? Even when I maximize your message the lines get truncated
rather unpleasantly.

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Re: Create shortcut to log on user

2002-07-13 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello Roelof,

On Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 10:16 GMT +0200, clairvoyants were
mystified when Roelof Otten [RO] conjured:

RO USER=value or U=value value is the name of the source account. If
RO no FOLDER parameter is specified, the target folder will be the
RO Inbox of the given account.

The value can also be the group name if you've defined user groups
under Options/Network and Administration

RO PASSWORD=value or P=value value is the password which will unlock
RO the account if it is needed.

Likewise, this can be the group password if a groupname is used above.

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TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Andy Morrison

Hello list

  Maybe if I describe what I am trying to achieve the
  experts can give me some general pointers / tips. I have a
  small home network of 3 pc's  2 laptops which are
  connected to the internet using MS ICS through a server
  with an always on ADSL connection. Currently I use a free
  proxy server, JanaServer, only to collect email on the
  server. Individual users then collect email from the
  server using Eudora. I would like to replace JanaServer
  with TB! in server mode to collect mail periodically, and
  use TB! in client mode for users to collect mail on demand
  from any machine.
  I would also like to be able to display on the client pc
  when there is mail waiting for another user - ie not the
  one currently logged on. I do this at the moment using a
  small tray app which simply checks the Jana mail
  folder contents because Jana stores mail as individual
  files in .EML format. I think this is not so easy in TB!?

  Any and all suggestions tips and advice is much
  appreciated.

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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 11:30 
 
Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 11:21:44 [GMT +0100] (11:21 where I live) you wrote:

AM Hello list

AM   Maybe if I describe what I am trying to achieve the
AM   experts can give me some general pointers / tips. I have a
AM   small home network of 3 pc's  2 laptops which are
AM   connected to the internet using MS ICS through a server
AM   with an always on ADSL connection. Currently I use a free
AM   proxy server, JanaServer, only to collect email on the
AM   server. Individual users then collect email from the
AM   server using Eudora. I would like to replace JanaServer
AM   with TB! in server mode to collect mail periodically, and
AM   use TB! in client mode for users to collect mail on demand
AM   from any machine.
AM   I would also like to be able to display on the client pc
AM   when there is mail waiting for another user - ie not the
AM   one currently logged on. I do this at the moment using a
AM   small tray app which simply checks the Jana mail
AM   folder contents because Jana stores mail as individual
AM   files in .EML format. I think this is not so easy in TB!?

AM   Any and all suggestions tips and advice is much
AM   appreciated.


Ok  its  not  strictly  TB!  related  -  but have a look at www.e-smith.org to
replace the server with ICS...

Its what I use and it is very very good

A


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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Adam Rykala [AR] wrote:

AM I would also like to be able to display on the client pc when
AM there is mail waiting for another user - ie not the one currently
AM logged on. I do this at the moment using a small tray app which
AM simply checks the Jana mail folder contents because Jana stores
AM mail as individual files in .EML format. I think this is not so
AM easy in TB!?

It would appear that you would need an application that could notify
you when files have been updated. I'd think such a beast would exist
somewhere. TB! would certainly not provide you that functionality.

AM Any and all suggestions tips and advice is much appreciated.

Why do you wish to make the change to TB! as the server? It may not be
the best solution. A specialist mail-server would very likely serve
your needs better.

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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:12 
 
Hi Allie, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 06:02:46 [GMT -0500] (12:02 where I live) you wrote:

ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
ACM Hash: SHA1

ACM In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Adam Rykala [AR] wrote:

AM I would also like to be able to display on the client pc when
AM there is mail waiting for another user - ie not the one currently
AM logged on. I do this at the moment using a small tray app which
AM simply checks the Jana mail folder contents because Jana stores
AM mail as individual files in .EML format. I think this is not so
AM easy in TB!?

ACM It would appear that you would need an application that could notify
ACM you when files have been updated. I'd think such a beast would exist
ACM somewhere. TB! would certainly not provide you that functionality.

AM Any and all suggestions tips and advice is much appreciated.

ACM Why do you wish to make the change to TB! as the server? It may not be
ACM the best solution. A specialist mail-server would very likely serve
ACM your needs better.

Allie - is your sig delimiter broken it doesn't seem to be --space

Anyway...

Thats  why  I  recommended  e-smith  - been running it for a year with AntiVir
(also  free) and then you could use a pop3-tray notification app in the system
tray of the clients to tell you if their is email for *other* users as well...

A




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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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AR Allie - is your sig delimiter broken it doesn't seem to be
AR --space

That's a product of my pgp signature. The signing progress changes the
signature delimiter. There's a template available that will allow you
to strip all the pgp related material from the reply. Just replace
your %quotes macro with the following regex macro and you should be
fine (copy and paste it exactly as shown):

%quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%-
(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%-
- -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)%-
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3


PS// It's better to create a quick template, paste the regex macro in
it, and then replace the quotes macros with %Qinclude=quick template
handle.

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Re[2]: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Andy Morrison


ACM Why do you wish to make the change to TB! as the server? It may not be
ACM the best solution. A specialist mail-server would very likely serve
ACM your needs better.

I have a problem which could be caused by Jana or Eudora  I
cannot find which one. I thought that using the same
software for server and client maybe more stable. The
support for TB! is certainly far superior to the others. Is
the server mode of TB! not fully implemented?


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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

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Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:36

Hi Allie, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 06:31:38 [GMT -0500] (12:31 where I live) you wrote:

ACM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
ACM Hash: SHA1

ACM In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Adam Rykala [AR] wrote:

AR Allie - is your sig delimiter broken it doesn't seem to be
AR --space

ACM That's a product of my pgp signature. The signing progress changes the
ACM signature delimiter. There's a template available that will allow you
ACM to strip all the pgp related material from the reply. Just replace
ACM your %quotes macro with the following regex macro and you should be
ACM fine (copy and paste it exactly as shown):

ACM %quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%-
ACM (Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%-
ACM - -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)%-
ACM %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3


ACM PS// It's better to create a quick template, paste the regex macro in
ACM it, and then replace the quotes macros with %Qinclude=quick template
ACM handle.


I  used  to use it but it caused no end of grief with formatting with non Bat!
users - what version of PGP are you using?

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Re[2]: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Andy Morrison

AR Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 11:30 
 
AR Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 11:21:44 [GMT +0100] (11:21 where I live) you 
wrote:


AR Ok  its  not  strictly  TB!  related  -  but have a look at www.e-smith.org to
AR replace the server with ICS...

AR Its what I use and it is very very good

Thanks for the suggestion, I wanted to use linux from the
start but support for my usb adsl modem, which I have to
use, is very limited and does not exist in e-smith.

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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:40 
 
Hi Allie, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 06:31:38 [GMT -0500] (12:31 where I live) you wrote:

ACM In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Adam Rykala [AR] wrote:

AR Allie - is your sig delimiter broken it doesn't seem to be
AR --space

ACM That's a product of my pgp signature. The signing progress changes the
ACM signature delimiter. There's a template available that will allow you
ACM to strip all the pgp related material from the reply. Just replace
ACM your %quotes macro with the following regex macro and you should be
ACM fine (copy and paste it exactly as shown):

ACM %quotes=%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%-
ACM (Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%-
ACM - -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)%-
ACM %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=3


ACM PS// It's better to create a quick template, paste the regex macro in
ACM it, and then replace the quotes macros with %Qinclude=quick template
ACM handle.


Done - because I just signed a message and it did the same!!

Anyway   Andy  -  is  the  machine  you  going  to  use  as  an  email  server
dedicated?

If  so  - I would press that e-smith is probably the way forward ... firewall,
email server and antivirus ...

A


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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:44 
 
Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 12:40:54 [GMT +0100] (12:40 where I live) you wrote:

AR Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 11:30 
 
AR Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 11:21:44 [GMT +0100] (11:21 where I live) you 
wrote:


AR Ok  its  not  strictly  TB!  related  -  but have a look at www.e-smith.org to
AR replace the server with ICS...

AR Its what I use and it is very very good

AM Thanks for the suggestion, I wanted to use linux from the
AM start but support for my usb adsl modem, which I have to
AM use, is very limited and does not exist in e-smith.

Good point

Does  it  have an ethernet port on it as well, I know a few I've seen (such as
NTL's one) have an ethernet port as well...

Saying  that  mind, e-smith 5.5 has just been released and I notice it now has
USB stuff in it..

I'm  only jealous cause Im stuck on 56k and BT's response to my exchange being
enabled is something like hahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah - NO

A




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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Allie C Martin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Adam Rykala [AR] wrote:

AR I used to use it but it caused no end of grief with formatting
AR with non Bat! users

I don't understand what you're saying here. Would you explain?

I don't know what you're referring to. Are you referring to PGP
signing messages? What kind of formatting problems would they get?

If you're referring to the use of the regex macro:

The template simply extracts from the original message, only that text
from the message body, *as is*, without any alteration, that is bound
by the PGP signature stuff. I don't see how this could mess up
formatting for non-Bat users.

AR - what version of PGP are you using?

I'm using GnuPG version 1.1.90

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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:55 
 
Hi Allie, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 06:50:06 [GMT -0500] (12:50 where I live) you wrote:

ACM In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
ACM Adam Rykala [AR] wrote:

AR I used to use it but it caused no end of grief with formatting
AR with non Bat! users

ACM I don't understand what you're saying here. Would you explain?

A  few friends who use OE (god bless 'em) were getting odd formatting errors -
things all over the place.

Saying that mind - it seems to be behaving now - just tested

probably me then



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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Andy Morrison [AM] wrote:

AM I have a problem which could be caused by Jana or Eudora  I
AM cannot find which one.

As a test you could really then use TB! in server mode to see if your
problem goes away.

AM I thought that using the same software for server and client maybe
AM more stable. The support for TB! is certainly far superior to the
AM others. Is the server mode of TB! not fully implemented?

It is but it's not a specialist server. If it servers your needs OK,
then by all means use it. If you need advanced mailserver features
then TB! will not offer this.

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Re[2]: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Andy Morrison

AR Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:44 
 
AR Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 12:40:54 [GMT +0100] (12:40 where I live) you 
wrote:

AR Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 11:30 
 
AR Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 11:21:44 [GMT +0100] (11:21 where I live) you 
wrote:


AR Ok  its  not  strictly  TB!  related  -  but have a look at www.e-smith.org to
AR replace the server with ICS...

AR Its what I use and it is very very good

AM Thanks for the suggestion, I wanted to use linux from the
AM start but support for my usb adsl modem, which I have to
AM use, is very limited and does not exist in e-smith.

AR Good point

AR Does  it  have an ethernet port on it as well, I know a few I've seen (such as
AR NTL's one) have an ethernet port as well...

No ethernet port :( - its the standard alcatel frog
AR Saying  that  mind, e-smith 5.5 has just been released and I notice it now has
AR USB stuff in it..
Have just looked again at the release notes - cant find a
refference to usb but it does say the kernal has not been
updated

AR I'm  only jealous cause Im stuck on 56k and BT's response to my exchange being
AR enabled is something like hahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah - NO

Don't want to rub it in but BT installed ADSL for me in
January but BTO haven't started charging me for it yet :))

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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 13:06 
 
Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 13:04:37 [GMT +0100] (13:04 where I live) you wrote:

AR Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 12:44 
 
AR Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 12:40:54 [GMT +0100] (12:40 where I live) you 
wrote:

AR Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 11:30 
 
AR Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 11:21:44 [GMT +0100] (11:21 where I live) you 
wrote:



AR Does  it  have an ethernet port on it as well, I know a few I've seen (such as
AR NTL's one) have an ethernet port as well...

AM No ethernet port :( - its the standard alcatel frog

mmm  Saying  that  there are definitely usb drivers in e-smith 5,5 cause dmesg
mentions them.

I'll try and find someone with one to test


AM Don't want to rub it in but BT installed ADSL for me in
AM January but BTO haven't started charging me for it yet :))

AM Andy

  grrr

  ;-)
  
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Re[2]: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Andy Morrison

AM I have a problem which could be caused by Jana or Eudora  I
AM cannot find which one.

ACM As a test you could really then use TB! in server mode to see if your
ACM problem goes away.

I think I will give it a try and see what happens.

AM I thought that using the same software for server and client maybe
AM more stable. The support for TB! is certainly far superior to the
AM others. Is the server mode of TB! not fully implemented?

ACM It is but it's not a specialist server. If it servers your needs OK,
ACM then by all means use it. If you need advanced mailserver features
ACM then TB! will not offer this.

I dont need advanced features - just auto forwarding and
auto-responder would be good. Really I just need something
which is stable and easy to setup.

btw I am also new to mailing lists - please tell me if my
netiquette is lacking in any way

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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 13:11 
 
Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 13:10:00 [GMT +0100] (13:10 where I live) you wrote:


AM I dont need advanced features - just auto forwarding and
AM auto-responder would be good. Really I just need something
AM which is stable and easy to setup.

What  about  mercury/32  from  www.pmail.com  (IIRC)  - its from the makers of
Pegasus Mail (don't hit me!) but I've heard nothing but praise for it!

AM btw I am also new to mailing lists - please tell me if my
AM netiquette is lacking in any way

AM Andy




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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Adam Rykala

Date: 13 July 2002, Time: 13:13 
 
Hi Andy, On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, at 13:10:00 [GMT +0100] (13:10 where I live) you wrote:




From www.pmail.com re: Mercury/32

What's new in Mercury/32 v3.31?

Mercury/32  v3.31  is  a  major  upgrade of the system, including new protocol
modules  and  some  very  powerful  new  features.  If you are unfamiliar with
Mercury/32,  you  may  want  to  examine  a general overview of the program by
clicking  here.  If  wish  to  download  the  program, click here to go to the
dowloads  page.

*  IMAP:  MercuryI,  the  Mercury/32  IMAP  server  module,  is now a standard
component  of  the  Mercury/32  release.  Long in development, MercuryI allows
IMAP4rev1-compatible  mail  clients such as Pegasus Mail, Mulberry and Outlook
to access entire mailbox structures in a managed way.

*  Policies:  This powerful new feature allows you to create your own external
tasks  to  examine  mail  messages.  Mercury  provides support for things like
attachment  unpacking  -  all  you  do is put together a script, batch file or
program that does the processing you need, then tell Mercury how to invoke it.
As  an example, it takes about 10 minutes to create a virus scanning policy to
check all your mail for viruses, even if the virus scanner does not understand
Internet  message  encodings.  Policies  are  found  on  their own page in the
Mercury Core Module configuration dialog, and there is extensive help for them
in the help file.

*  Content  control: Are you sick to death of spam? So are we. Mercury now has
one  of  the  most  comprehensive  content examination and control features we
could  put together. Using the new content control option, you can apply tests
of  aribtrary  complexity to incoming mail and take any of a number of actions
based  on  the  results.  A  clever weighting system allows you to aggregate a
number  of  points  with varying levels of importance during the evaluation. A
default  rule  set  is  included  that  catches about 80% of the unwanted mail
passing  through  Pegasus Mail Central these days - all you have to do is turn
it on and decide on the action you want to take.

* Blacklist overhaul: Mercury now allows you to create a practically unlimited
number  of  blacklist definitions (for services such as the RBL, or ORDB), and
the  functionality available for testing the returns from those blacklists has
been  thoroughly  updated.

* NetWare support: A new NDS-mode enabler has been included with this version:
the  new  enabler  allows  you to specify an object that Mercury should try to
look  up  in  the  NDS  database  before  starting  any mail transaction. This
approach,  while  a little rough and ready, allows Mercury to work reliably in
an  environment  where  servers  are  occasionally unavailable.

*  Programmable  autoresponders/autoreplies:  Mercury now allows you to set up
multiple  automatic  replies  and have the correct one chosen based on factors
like  the day of the week, the time of day or the current date.

*  Numerous  bug  fixes:  Many,  many  small  problems  have  been  addressed,
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Re: TB! in server mode

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Adam,
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:13:37 +0100, you wrote:

 Allie - is your sig delimiter broken it doesn't seem to be --space

No... that is PGP being funny, and putting a -space in front of the sig
delimiter.  Nothing unusual.  If he didn't PGP sign his messages, it'd be there
fine ;)

 Thats  why  I  recommended  e-smith  - been running it for a year with AntiVir
 (also  free) and then you could use a pop3-tray notification app in the system
 tray of the clients to tell you if their is email for *other* users as well...

A decent transparent proxy, and you wouldn't need to worry about it... The
mention of linux is a nice one.  At home I have a PC acting as a
mail/web/gateway server for my other PC.  My email clients on the inside all
have the proper addressing, then whenever they want a connection, they go off
and get it themselves, not having to worry about the mail server on the computer
connected to the internet running off and getting the mail.

I run RH7.1, which does have USB support IIRC, but my ADSL modem is connected
via ethernet (I have two cards in this machine).

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Annoying error sound

2002-07-13 Thread Mihai

Hello tbudl,

   I configured TB to check periodically for mail every 3 minutes. But
if I'm not connected to the internet when I recieve could not connect to
server error TB makes a sound. To be more specific it makes a
Exclamation sound. This might be OK...but if I hear it too often
becomes very annoying.

   How do I deactivate that sound besides the idea to remove the
Exclamation sound from the Windows Sounds Scheme ?

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THANK YOU: was Re[2]: TB! Import of mail folders from OE6

2002-07-13 Thread Inter-Gold

Hello Allie and Adam,

You wrote:


ACM TB! hasn't changed the creation date of the messages. TB! has a column
ACM that tells you when messages were downloaded to TB! and an import time
ACM is also generated. This has nothing to do with the message headers or
ACM content. If all those messages were imported at the same time then the
ACM received times will be the same. However, the message creation times,
ACM i.e., the times each message was created as seen in the message
ACM headers, are as they were in Outlook Express.

Thank  you!  I  had  precisely  that intuition a minute before opening
Adam's mail today! So _this_ problem is solved.

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Re: Annoying error sound

2002-07-13 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Mihai,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:56:34 +0300GMT (13-7-02, 14:56 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

M if I'm not connected to the internet when I recieve could not connect to
M server error TB makes a sound. To be more specific it makes a
M Exclamation sound. This might be OK...but if I hear it too often
M becomes very annoying.

MHow do I deactivate that sound besides the idea to remove the
M Exclamation sound from the Windows Sounds Scheme ?

You can't deactivate the sound unless you deactivate it in the windows
soundsettings.

However, in Options - Network  Administration, you can select the
dial up connection TB has to use and disable that it dial out itself.

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Re: Annoying error sound

2002-07-13 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:56:34[GMT +0300]   (8:56 AM EDST) Mihai wrote:

 Hello tbudl,

I configured TB to check periodically for mail every 3 minutes. But
 if I'm not connected to the internet when I recieve could not connect to
 server error TB makes a sound. To be more specific it makes a
 Exclamation sound. This might be OK...but if I hear it too often
 becomes very annoying.

How do I deactivate that sound besides the idea to remove the
 Exclamation sound from the Windows Sounds Scheme ?

TheBat | Account | Properties | Sound

From there you can turn the sound on or off, or browse to a pleasing
sound file.


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AVG and message body

2002-07-13 Thread Ochrid


Hello all,

After reading some comments in this list, I decided to give the
AVG free version a try. I also downloaded and ran the plugin
avgbat8us.exe.

When I installed the plug in a warning came on to the extent that
AVG would not be able to scan the message itself (as opposed to
attachments) due to a bug in TB!.

I sent myself the eicar.com text, both just as text in an e-mail
and in another message as attachment.

The latter was instantly recognised, the first not.

Does this mean I  am still vulnerable to viruses sent to me as
part of the text itself?  Is this what was meant in AVG's
warning? Do I need to take action?

Please reassure me!

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THANK YOU: was :TB! Address Book Import from OE6/Netscape 4.79

2002-07-13 Thread Joyce Sala

Hello friends,

Wanted to thank Peter and Sandro for helping me solve the address book
problem.
As  you can see, I am now using TB!, although I still have a few minor
problems  queries.

Thank you again.


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Re[2]: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Lynn Turriff



Thursday, July 11, 2002, 8:40:00 PM, you wrote:

JA Hi Lynn,
JA On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:52:49 -0700, you wrote:

 In my quest for spam reduction options, I've decided to
 filter on the ip's of spam mails which apparently have
 forged 'from' addresses. If I make a list of these and use
 the 'add' button to add a rule, will these rules be
 applied as 'or', or as 'and' .. ?

JA I'd have thought trying to filter on IP addresses is a little difficult to do
JA when it comes to spam, seeing as the large number of sources.  You'll be forever
JA updating your filters, and then eventually get lost in the massive list.  You
JA may even end up filtering mail you probably shouldn't.  Just a thought ;)

I'm not doing them all, but there are a few obvious
troublemakers ..

[snip]

JA Selective Downloads filter allows you to read a text file if I remember
JA correctly.  I've seen some people utilising this to block known spammers
JA locations.

I need to look at this further .. it has a blacklist
already loaded .. do you (or anybody) know if this is
updated anywhere?

JA I think one of the better methods would be to speak to your mail provider, and
JA see if they can implement real time black lists, and use services such as
JA http://mail-abuse.org or even http://www.ordb.org.  Again, just a thought.

I'm trying to start only one project at a time .. this
month's project is filters :-) I have alternatives stacked
up, and will get to them all eventually :-)

Thanks for adding a few more to the list .. My projected
lifespan is coming up on 239 years! lolol!

Lynn


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THANK YOU: was TB! Antivirus settings for NAV2002

2002-07-13 Thread Joyce Sala

Hello Peter,

Thank  you  for  your  help  in this matter. Actually TB! probably got
scared by you, and decided to behave well ALL by itself!!;))
So now I have scanning both in and out.
Thanks again.

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Re: OT - samba stuff

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Lynn,
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:57:44 -0700, you wrote:

 JA Did you install swat?  It's a nice samba configuration generator in a web
 JA browser.. makes things a lot easier :)
 
 Oh yes ... it may have been a hardware thing, I couldn't
 get swat to work at all for a while; it sort of crippled
 along on a subsequent install, but I still couldn't get it
 working. I also tried another configuration thing whose
 name I can't recall, and I also tried a SUSE install of
 LINUX which got me no further. I've got another box in the
 pipeline, though, so am hoping for a better result.

There are a couple of configurations you have to set before swat works.  I think
one of them is in /etc/services and the other is in /etc/xinetd.d/swat (or
similar).  I'll re-install samba, and swat on here tonight, and let you know :) 
If you're using RedHat, then using the RPM files does most of the work for you,
but you still need to tweak one or two things ;)

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Re: Re[2]: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Lynn,
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:17:43 -0700, you wrote:

 I'm not doing them all, but there are a few obvious
 troublemakers ..

Most or .kr and those kind of areas? ;)

 JA Selective Downloads filter allows you to read a text file if I remember
 JA correctly.  I've seen some people utilising this to block known spammers
 JA locations.
 
 I need to look at this further .. it has a blacklist
 already loaded .. do you (or anybody) know if this is
 updated anywhere?

Erm... I didn't know there was a pre-loaded blacklist, so I couldn't say.  May
be something I missed somewhere, and cannot check until monday.  Take a look at
the filter, and see where it references.

Just out of curiousity, does anybody know if you can reference a file on a
webserver to use instead of a local file in the selective downloads thing?  Like
for example: http://www.mydomain.com/spammers.txt?  Would be good... could then
start working on a central type of system to block more spammers, and pool
everybody's knowledge, and experiences ;)

 I'm trying to start only one project at a time .. this
 month's project is filters :-) I have alternatives stacked
 up, and will get to them all eventually :-)

That is why the rbl's are left to your mail provider, and not you ;)

 Thanks for adding a few more to the list .. My projected
 lifespan is coming up on 239 years! lolol!

lol... join the club... mine are stacking up too ;)

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Message doubles???

2002-07-13 Thread Joyce Sala

Sorry folks,

For some strange reason my messages to you seem to come in doubles.
Any Idea why? I did _not_ press send twice.

Sorry again.

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Re: Message doubles???

2002-07-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Joyce,

@13 July 2002, 20:21 +0200 (19:21 UK time)  Joyce Sala [JS] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The Bat! List:

JS For some strange reason my messages to you seem to come in doubles.
JS Any Idea why? I did _not_ press send twice.

The messages didn't leave the list twice. I only see one copy. Check
the archive. I'm sure you'll only see one copy there. It may be
something happening at your end. Check the message headers (either
with Ctrl-Shift-K to view kludges or F9 to view source) and see if
there are any clues in there about the double messages.

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Message final glitches

2002-07-13 Thread Joyce Sala

Hello friends,

I'm  finally  daring to move to the TB! and I'm bumping into small but
annoying problems that I don't succeed in solving.

1.  How  do  I  get  to stop TB from _always_ suggesting me a template
(which in any case is always wrong for me?). Where do I switch it off?
Can  I  switch it off selectively (according to address or folder?) or
is it all/nothing at all?

2.  The OE  and CC479 had a nice feature called follow conversation,
where  you  would  get  specific  subjects  highlighted, regardless of
sender.  The  color  group is a permanent think and is appropriate for
senders, but is there something similar for subjects? I must point out
It's useless for me to work in threads, because anyway I deal with people (or 80% of
them) who just don't know how to respect subject/thread definitions.

3.  The  delete  function (both the button and the delete sub-menus)
seem  to  be  almost  always disabled. The only way I manage to delete
messages  is  to  move  it to trash and then tell it to empty it. It
works  for  a few minutes when I first open program and then it stops.
What am I doing wrong?

These are the most urgent ones...

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

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Columns definition in various folders' message lists

2002-07-13 Thread Joyce Sala

Hello Friends,

It's me again.

Is  there  a  way  I  can  _globally_  confire the columns of _all_ my
folders in _one_ single operation? I have dozens  dozens of them, and
I  can't  believe I really have to open each and every one of them, go
to view, etc. etc.

Is there a shortcut to all this?

Thanks

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Now here's a poser!

2002-07-13 Thread Barry J. Higginbottom

Hi all,

At my work I have a very simple network of two machines plus a laptop.

My machine runs W98SE and has a connection to the Internet, the machine in
the workshop runs WFWG 3.11 and my laptop, when connected, runs W98SE. I
will be adding another office machine, again W98SE, in the near future.

At present email between the workshop and me is via MSMail (works) and
Outlook (me) a Postoffice from a shared drive on my machine.

The network is TCP/IP

I then use TB! for my Internet email, which is the only machine at the
moment that requires Internet email.

This present arrangement seems unneccesarily messy, but is there a way where
the works machine could email me so I could pick up the mail using my copy
of TB!

For reasons I don't really want to go into the works machine really needs to
stay with WFWG 3.11 for the present.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: Redirect reply to address...

2002-07-13 Thread ETM

Thanks, Marck.  Working perfectly now.

Elaine

Hello Marck

On Friday, July 12, 2002, you wrote

CM Can this be changed so redirects reply back to the original
CM sender?

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SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan E. Brickman

I have tried several SMTP servers recently.  All were overcomplicated
in configuration...except the newest MERCURY/32.  It is marvelous.

Anyone have a caching-only DNS server they like for Win32 ???

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Re: Message final glitches

2002-07-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Joyce,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 2:39:32 PM.

JS 1.  How  do  I  get  to stop TB from _always_ suggesting me a template
JS (which in any case is always wrong for me?). Where do I switch it off?
JS Can  I  switch it off selectively (according to address or folder?) or
JS is it all/nothing at all?

Let's see, Templates take affect in this order (I think g):
  AB Contact
  AB Group
  Folder (recommend you don't use this one)
  Account
See the FAQ for more information on Templates.

JS 2. The OE and CC479 had a nice feature called follow
JS conversation, where you would get specific subjects highlighted,
JS regardless of sender. The color group is a permanent think and is
JS appropriate for senders, but is there something similar for
JS subjects? I must point out It's useless for me to work in
JS threads, because anyway I deal with people (or 80% of them) who
JS just don't know how to respect subject/thread definitions.

You can create filters that Change the color of the message in the
message list.  Will that work for you?  ( Message \ Color Group \
Edit... )

JS 3.  The  delete  function (both the button and the delete sub-menus)
JS seem  to  be  almost  always disabled. The only way I manage to delete
JS messages  is  to  move  it to trash and then tell it to empty it. It
JS works  for  a few minutes when I first open program and then it stops.
JS What am I doing wrong?

I have not had this problem.

HTH

One last thing.  If you use a --spacecr as a sig delimiter,
TB strips off your sig automatically so responders don't need to
manually cut your sig and the list footers out. g

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Re: Template Questions

2002-07-13 Thread Chris Montgomery

Howdy Thomas,

Saturday, July 13, 2002, 2:23:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TF As you are probably subscribed to each mailng list only with one
TF address, why don't you use folders in the appropriate account? - Just
TF curious.

I guess the answer is resistance to change. I've had a master common
folder, with subfolders (including those for discussion list
messages), outside of my account folder for so long when I previously
used Eudora and then Outlook, that I simply adapted the same setup
when I took up TB. This made more sense in Eudora/Outlook where I
could use the same account folders for all accounts. Since TB forces
separate account folders for each account, it seemed cumbersome to
divide up my common folders amongst them.

It may be time to do what you suggested, though. Which leads to a
question - it would be quicker to do this by using my file manager
outside of TB and move the message folders than moving them within TB.
Would that cause problems with the folder indexes?

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Re: Columns definition in various folders' message lists

2002-07-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Joyce,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 2:50:10 PM.

JS Is  there  a  way  I  can  _globally_  confire the columns of _all_ my
JS folders in _one_ single operation? I have dozens  dozens of them, and
JS I  can't  believe I really have to open each and every one of them, go
JS to view, etc. etc.

JS Is there a shortcut to all this?

Sort of, Set one folder, then go into folder properties and check Use
the account default column settings for each folder you want to be
the same.  Now if you change any one, they all change.

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Re: Template Questions

2002-07-13 Thread Chris Montgomery

Howdy Marck,

Saturday, July 13, 2002, 2:24:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

CM   Where are the default templates defined for common folders?

MDP They aren't!

Ok, but there must be a default reply template *somewhere* which is
being invoked right now when I reply to messages outside of account
folders. Otherwise the reply message screen would be blank?

I want to make a slight modification to what the default template uses
and then use that modified template as my reply template.

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Re: SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Jonathan,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal' was used
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on Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 2:35:49 PM.

JEB I have tried several SMTP servers recently.  All were
JEB overcomplicated in configuration...except the newest MERCURY/32.
JEB It is marvelous.

Which ones did you look at? Will be looking myself soon I think.

JEB Anyone have a caching-only DNS server they like for Win32 ???

No, sorry, but you might check
http://www.tr1be.com/powertools/index.html They might have a
suggestion (you could also sign up for the list and ask if
interested).

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Re: Problems installing recent versions

2002-07-13 Thread Tim Fountain


On Friday, July 12, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 @12 July 2002, 15:25 +0100  Tim Fountain [TF] in
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Sergey Uvarov:

 ... I'm wondering if there's something in my mail archive that
 could be causing some problems, as I did copy my mail archive over
 onto my work machine before I updated TB.

 Okay - here's a long shot. Use the TB backup to backup everything.

 use the Restore to bring back all the data into the working
 environment.

Thanks Marck - that seems to have solved the problem!  Weird...

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Re: Reading, Filtering, Practices

2002-07-13 Thread Adam

Hello Miguel,

Wednesday, July 3, 2002, 2:26:46 PM, you wrote:

MAU Hello Nick,

 I look forward to hearing other options.

MAU In case you are interested on what I do, look in the archives for
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , with
MAU Subject: My filters, colour groups and ticker setup (Re: ticker
MAU info?) sent on May 17th, 2002.



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Ignore template

2002-07-13 Thread Adam

Can you start a new message without the folder template if your main
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Re: Template Questions

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Chris,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:40:19 -0500 GMT (14/07/02, 01:40 +0700 GMT),
Chris Montgomery wrote:

CM It may be time to do what you suggested, though. Which leads to a
CM question - it would be quicker to do this by using my file manager
CM outside of TB and move the message folders than moving them within TB.
CM Would that cause problems with the folder indexes?

No, even the filters would follow. So, if you have this list now
filtered into a common folder, but you move that folder to become a
folder in an account, the filter will move the messages correctly
tinot that folder.

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Re[2]: SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan E. Brickman

JEB I have tried several SMTP servers recently.  All were
JEB overcomplicated in configuration...except the newest MERCURY/32.
JEB It is marvelous.

 Which ones did you look at? Will be looking myself soon I think.

Ayii! So many that I don't remember most of them. Postcast and
MailTraq were among them. With MERCURY/32 I need to use ClickOff for
autominimization, but that is a tiny inconvenience compared to the
benefit. MERCURY/32 not only is an easy configure, it has a very small
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Re: Template Questions

2002-07-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Chris,

@13 July 2002, 13:44 -0500 (19:44 UK time)  Chris Montgomery [CM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

CM   Where are the default templates defined for common folders?

MDP They aren't!

CM Ok, but there must be a default reply template *somewhere* which is
CM being invoked right now when I reply to messages outside of account
CM folders. Otherwise the reply message screen would be blank?

That's true.

I guess what I meant is that I have not seen any definition of what
would be used. Let me stab at a guess and say that it is likely to be
the Account templates from the default / first account in the account
/ folder tree.

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Re: Ignore template

2002-07-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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A Can you start a new message without the folder template if your main
A window is on a folder?

No. That's why I recommend that folder templates are not used unless
completely unavoidable.

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Re[2]: Annoying error sound

2002-07-13 Thread Mihai

Hello Daniel,

Saturday, July 13, 2002, 5:35:04 PM, you wrote:

DG Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:56:34[GMT +0300]   (8:56 AM EDST) Mihai wrote:

How do I deactivate that sound besides the idea to remove the
 Exclamation sound from the Windows Sounds Scheme ?

DG TheBat | Account | Properties | Sound

From there you can turn the sound on or off, or browse to a pleasing
DG sound file.

I appreciate that you did bother answering me, but could you _read_ my
message again and see what my _real_ problem is ?

Until now, Roelof Otten aswered me but unfortunately the second answer
does not apply because I'm using a LAN connection. If I follow
his instructions TB won't get my mail beacause it wants to connect via
Dial-up. It doesn't detect that I'm connected to the internet via LAN. :(

Maybe someone has another good idea ? I do not like to remove my
Exclamation sound from the sound scheme but if this is the only solution
maybe I will.

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Re: Ignore template

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Adam,

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:57:10 -0230 GMT (12/07/02, 06:27 +0700 GMT),
Adam wrote:

A Can you start a new message without the folder template if your
A main window is on a folder?
  
No, you will have to delete it manually.

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Re: Annoying error sound

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Mihai,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:13:50 +0300 GMT (14/07/02, 03:13 +0700 GMT),
Mihai wrote:

M Until now, Roelof Otten aswered me but unfortunately the second answer
M does not apply because I'm using a LAN connection. If I follow
M his instructions TB won't get my mail beacause it wants to connect via
M Dial-up. It doesn't detect that I'm connected to the internet via LAN. :(

Options / Network  Admin / Local Area Network.

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Re: SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Jonathan,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 3:07:00 PM.

JEB I have tried several SMTP servers recently.  All were
JEB overcomplicated in configuration...except the newest
JEB MERCURY/32. It is marvelous.

 Which ones did you look at? Will be looking myself soon I think.

JEB Ayii! So many that I don't remember most of them.

Did you try X-Ray?

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Re[2]: SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan E. Brickman

JEB I have tried several SMTP servers recently.  All were
JEB overcomplicated in configuration...except the newest
JEB MERCURY/32. It is marvelous.

 Which ones did you look at? Will be looking myself soon I think.

JEB Ayii! So many that I don't remember most of them.

 Did you try X-Ray?

Did not. Didn't know it existed! Just looked at its web page. If the
web page description is complete, it is not what I want. I want SMTP
which sends directly to destinations, not something to hand-off to my
ISP's SMTP server.

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Re: SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Cricket

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On Saturday, July 13, 2002 Jonathan E. Brickman stated:


 Did you try X-Ray?

JEB Did not. Didn't know it existed! Just looked at its web page. If the
JEB web page description is complete, it is not what I want. I want SMTP
JEB which sends directly to destinations, not something to hand-off to my
JEB ISP's SMTP server.

Or Advanced Direct Remailer http://www.mailutilities.com/adr?
It has the _OPTION_ of handing off to your ISP if it fails direct
deliver after x attempts. You can also withhold delivery for any last
second manipulations of the header lines or text,if needed.

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Re[2]: SMTP server report

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan E. Brickman

 Or Advanced Direct Remailer http://www.mailutilities.com/adr?
 It has the _OPTION_ of handing off to your ISP if it fails direct
 deliver after x attempts. You can also withhold delivery for any last
 second manipulations of the header lines or text,if needed.

Looks very good.  MERCURY/32 is, of course, free :)


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Re: Annoying error sound

2002-07-13 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Mihai,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:13:50 +0300GMT (13-7-02, 22:13 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

M unfortunately the second answer does not apply because I'm using a
M LAN connection. If I follow his instructions TB won't get my mail
M beacause it wants to connect via Dial-up. It doesn't detect that
M I'm connected to the internet via LAN. :(

Have you ever considered to run your own mail server on your LAN? The
mail clients like TB will connect to the server whether there's an
internet connection or not. No more beeps, etc. The server can be told
to connect only to the net on certain times or in the case of existing
connection.


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Re: AVG and message body

2002-07-13 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Saturday, July 13, 2002, Ochrid wrote:

 After reading some comments in this list, I decided to give the
 AVG free version a try. I also downloaded and ran the plugin
 avgbat8us.exe.

 When I installed the plug in a warning came on to the extent that
 AVG would not be able to scan the message itself (as opposed to
 attachments) due to a bug in TB!.

last plugin version (Beta/8) was released on 24.6.2002, Pre-release TB
version 1.61 with this bug fixed on 9.7.2002. this comment will be
removed from readme in next version.

 I sent myself the eicar.com text, both just as text in an e-mail
 and in another message as attachment.

 The latter was instantly recognised, the first not.

 Does this mean I  am still vulnerable to viruses sent to me as
 part of the text itself?  Is this what was meant in AVG's
 warning? Do I need to take action?

text of message is not checked by plugin, I don't really understand
why? You can't be infected from text in message body.

BTW plugin is ready for first official release, it will be released
until wednesday, I think.

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sending email

2002-07-13 Thread t chokyi

Hi!
Ok, new to The_Bat and to the list, so i have sent a message to 
the guy at the isp who can check his end, too, but it is a 
weekend, so... Anyway, all of a sudden today (for hours) everytime 
i try to send mail i get the following error:
!7/13/2002, 18:35:33: SEND  - Message has not been sent. Server 
reply - Error: queue file write error

Just in case, i am sending this here (from the webmail option 
site, since i can't send it any other way). I can send from the 
webmail bit, just not pop3 from The_Bat. Any ideas? 
Oh, and i sort of discovered that if you mark the mail in the 
outbox as unread, you can send again if you had to abort (or like 
me, it just wouldn't work) without having to shut down TB. Still 
didn't work, but it did say i had the right number to send and 
tried valiantly.

So, any help appreciated!!!
Thanks!
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Re: sending email

2002-07-13 Thread Tim Musson

Hey t,

My MUA believes 'IMail v6.05' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Saturday, July 13, 2002 at 7:39:08 PM.

tc everytime i try to send mail i get the following error:
tc !7/13/2002, 18:35:33: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server
tc reply - Error: queue file write error

That does sound like a server err msg to me... I would go one step
more and try to send a message using Telnet (gets sticky if you need
authentication though.)

,- [ Send eMail via Telnet ]
| # telnet to a machine that responds to smtp on port 25
| telnet smtp.domain.com 25
| # issue the HELO command to start.
| HELO
| # issue the mail from command
| mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| # issue the rcpt to command (this should be a valid address)
| rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| # now the data command will allow you to do the rest..
| data
| # Subject:the text you want on the subject line on the first line for a subject...
| # other text here goes into the message body.
| # end the mail message with a . on a line by itself.
`-

Make sure you capture the output so you can send it off the the server
people if they ask...

,- [ Example so you can see what it may look like ]
| 220 smtp.domain.com Ready for business. iSMTP Version(5.0.1.93).
| HELO
| 250 Ok Pleased to meet you.
| 
| mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 250 Ok Mail accepted
| 
| rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 250 Ok Recipient accepted
| data
| 354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF
| subject:this is a test!
| testing more...
| .
| 250 Ok Data accepted
`-

tc Just in case, i am sending this here (from the webmail option
tc site, since i can't send it any other way). I can send from the
tc webmail bit, just not pop3 from The_Bat.

Nit-picking... POP3 is only to get mail from the server, you use SMTP
to send the mail... g

8 snip

,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark]
| This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of
| two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line.
| 
| NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine
| 
| This cut mark is recognised by many email programs and is used as a
| cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of
| your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is
| removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that
| includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark
| from the text you quote.
`- [see FAQ @ www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#newmess]

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Re[2]: OT - samba stuff

2002-07-13 Thread Lynn Turriff



Saturday, July 13, 2002, 10:01:12 AM, you wrote:

JA Hi Lynn,
JA On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:57:44 -0700, you wrote:

 JA Did you install swat?  It's a nice samba configuration generator in a web
 JA browser.. makes things a lot easier :)
 
 Oh yes ... it may have been a hardware thing, I couldn't
 get swat to work at all for a while; it sort of crippled
 along on a subsequent install, but I still couldn't get it
 working. I also tried another configuration thing whose
 name I can't recall, and I also tried a SUSE install of
 LINUX which got me no further. I've got another box in the
 pipeline, though, so am hoping for a better result.

JA There are a couple of configurations you have to set before swat works.  I think
JA one of them is in /etc/services and the other is in /etc/xinetd.d/swat (or
JA similar).  I'll re-install samba, and swat on here tonight, and let you know :) 
JA If you're using RedHat, then using the RPM files does most of the work for you,
JA but you still need to tweak one or two things ;)

I appreciate *all* input, but will have to hold it all
until this box comes free .. the time is not yet .. but
soon, I hope.

Personal mail is fine, this is a bit out in the
stratosphere, OTopically speaking :-)

Thanks!

Lynn


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Re[4]: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Lynn Turriff



Saturday, July 13, 2002, 10:06:00 AM, you wrote:

JA Hi Lynn,
JA On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:17:43 -0700, you wrote:

 I'm not doing them all, but there are a few obvious
 troublemakers ..

JA Most or .kr and those kind of areas? ;)

The ones I'm actually trying to block this way are forged
'froms' .. EU and Asia, mostly, according to the whois
servers.

[snip]
 
 I need to look at this further .. it has a blacklist
 already loaded .. do you (or anybody) know if this is
 updated anywhere?

JA Erm... I didn't know there was a pre-loaded blacklist, so I couldn't say.  May
JA be something I missed somewhere, and cannot check until monday.  Take a look at
JA the filter, and see where it references.

Can't think where it could have come from, then :-) But
I've got a couple, and would like to implement them .. I
may have taken one of them and loaded it, but don't
actually know if the format is correct, and so on.

So if it wasn't preloaded, will it work with CR
separations? lol!

JA Just out of curiousity, does anybody know if you can reference a file on a
JA webserver to use instead of a local file in the selective downloads thing?  Like
JA for example: http://www.mydomain.com/spammers.txt?  Would be good... could then
JA start working on a central type of system to block more spammers, and pool
JA everybody's knowledge, and experiences ;)

A great idea .. I want in on this.

[snip]

JA That is why the rbl's are left to your mail provider, and not you ;)

Well.. yabut .. I'd kind of rather do it myself, if I can
put something together that'll work. Partly because I'm
hammerheaded, and partly because of things like I hear
occasionally from people on other lists .. ... sorry I've
been absent, but I had to change ISP's, and now my lists don't
come through, and I finally called them, and their spam
filters won't allow it .. they say they'll work on it.. 

There isn't a lot of it about, but complaints may cause
more of it, and I'm a tinkerer by nature :-)

I should ask this in a separate mail, I suppose, but is
there any way I can copy a set of filters from this
machine over to another, or do I have to rebuild the whole
set? It's kind of time consuming ...

Lynn


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Re: sending email

2002-07-13 Thread t chokyi

In a good news/bad news type of way, i have ruled out TB as the 
problem. Cracked open oe with the same result (queue error - he's 
not just messing with folks on star trek anymore, i guess). So, 
must be the isp. Oh, joy... Good for tb, not so great for me... 
The cost of cheap isp's... Thanks, Art. Hope you can solve your 
problem. I can receive mail, by the way, from anyone, so our 
problems are different.
Thought i should update you all. 
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how to split digest mail to individual mail using the Bat ?

2002-07-13 Thread Adhitya Fajar Anggoro

Hello, I'm new here.
I'm aDhit from Jakarta, Indonesia.
I'm using The Bat! ver 1.53d in Win98SE

I'm joining lot of groups in yahoogroups using digest mode e-mail.

Recently a friend told me that The Bat can split digest e-mail into
individual mail using macro command and stuff.
It means the Bat simply split those digest into individual mail and
can be treated like one (simply read and reply those individual
instead from having to highligh the message in digest I wanna to reply and
press F4.

That friend doesn't wanna tell me how to do it, too complicated he
said.

I'm searching in ritslab web without success.

Perhaps a member in this group willing to help me?
Step by step ?
URL to the messages archive if this topic have been discussed before ?
URL to how to ?
Any help will be appreciated.

Or must I join the other The Bat group ?
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TIA

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Re: sending email

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi,
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 17:39:08 -0600, you wrote:

 Ok, new to The_Bat and to the list, so i have sent a message to 
 the guy at the isp who can check his end, too, but it is a 
 weekend, so... Anyway, all of a sudden today (for hours) everytime 
 i try to send mail i get the following error:
 !7/13/2002, 18:35:33: SEND  - Message has not been sent. Server 
 reply - Error: queue file write error

This to me sounds like they have either a full hard disk on the mail server, or
somebody messed up permissions in the mail queue directory.  You may wish to
contact your ISP, and let them know... it might be something very simple to
solve ;)  Of course, them being an ISP, I should hope either of those are not
the case, but stranger things (like the mysterious x-mailer filtering) have
happened.

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Re: Re[4]: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Lynn,
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:49:55 -0700, you wrote:

 JA Most or .kr and those kind of areas? ;)
 
 The ones I'm actually trying to block this way are forged
 'froms' .. EU and Asia, mostly, according to the whois
 servers.

I get a whole load from the Asia area, Korea in particular.  I've started
nailling the company mail server down now as I get fed up of dealing with about
20 spam emails every morning, and about 30 or so during the day.  As we only
deal with mainly US customers (some US overseas lands too), I started dropping a
lot of unwanted sites.

 So if it wasn't preloaded, will it work with CR
 separations? lol!

I actually have no idea on how the format works on it, but I'm guessing it reads
it on CR/LF, but I guess that is up to the experts to answer ;)

[snip]
 There isn't a lot of it about, but complaints may cause
 more of it, and I'm a tinkerer by nature :-)

Understood.  I half wonder what my old UK isp has done.  People have been
emailing me, and I've not been getting them, but I have been getting all the
spam sent to me... it's almost like they reversed the rbls ;)

 I should ask this in a separate mail, I suppose, but is
 there any way I can copy a set of filters from this
 machine over to another, or do I have to rebuild the whole
 set? It's kind of time consuming ...

Open notepad, select filter you want to copy, press CTRL C, go back to notepad,
press CTRL V... save into a location you can get to on the other machine (like
floppy disk), open on other machine, copy (CTRL C), open filter dialog, CTRL
V... tada... filter appears.  Of course, there may be a quicker way, for example
the backup facility may allow you to backup just the filters, in which case, you
can use that.  But I cannot check right here, I'm awaiting a windows machine to
play with ;)

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:06:00 -0500 GMT (14/07/02, 00:06 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

JA Just out of curiousity, does anybody know if you can reference a file on a
JA webserver to use instead of a local file in the selective downloads thing?  Like
JA for example: http://www.mydomain.com/spammers.txt?  Would be good... could then
JA start working on a central type of system to block more spammers, and pool
JA everybody's knowledge, and experiences ;)

Isn't this what SpamPal does?

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Re: how to split digest mail to individual mail using the Bat ?

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Adhitya,

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 10:23:11 +0700 GMT (14/07/02, 10:23 +0700 GMT),
Adhitya Fajar Anggoro wrote:

AFA I'm aDhit from Jakarta, Indonesia.

Welcome. :-)

AFA I'm joining lot of groups in yahoogroups using digest mode e-mail.

AFA Recently a friend told me that The Bat can split digest e-mail into
AFA individual mail using macro command and stuff.
AFA It means the Bat simply split those digest into individual mail and
AFA can be treated like one (simply read and reply those individual
AFA instead from having to highligh the message in digest I wanna to reply and
AFA press F4.

No, this is not quite correct. In fact, as a matter of policy, TB does
not allow you to change incoming mails at all. But then, if you want
to have the mails individually, why do you subscribe to digest mode?

AFA Or must I join the other The Bat group ?
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Re: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Thomas F

Hello Jonathan,

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:00:03 -0500 GMT (14/07/02, 11:00 +0700 GMT),
Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 I should ask this in a separate mail, I suppose, but is
 there any way I can copy a set of filters from this
 machine over to another, or do I have to rebuild the whole
 set? It's kind of time consuming ...

JA Open notepad, select filter you want to copy, press CTRL C, go back to notepad,
JA press CTRL V... save into a location you can get to on the other machine (like
JA floppy disk), open on other machine, copy (CTRL C), open filter dialog, CTRL
JA V... tada... filter appears.  Of course, there may be a quicker way,

..for example copying the account.srx file over. ;-)

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Re: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Thomas,
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:38:56 +0700, you wrote:

 ..for example copying the account.srx file over. ;-)

Wouldn't know what the file was... but I'm sure you're probably right... I would
peek, but work is a little far away ;)

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Re[2]: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Lynn Turriff



Saturday, July 13, 2002, 10:09:24 PM, you wrote:

JA Hi Thomas,
JA On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:38:56 +0700, you wrote:

 ..for example copying the account.srx file over. ;-)

JA Wouldn't know what the file was... but I'm sure you're probably right... I would
JA peek, but work is a little far away ;)


I found it, but it's only 1k ... I have a *lot* of filters
.. would this be it? or .. wait .. in the account folder
there's one that's 44k .. sounds more likely ..?

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Re: Re[2]: Filter question

2002-07-13 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Lynn,
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:36:30 -0700, you wrote:

 I found it, but it's only 1k ... I have a *lot* of filters
 .. would this be it? or .. wait .. in the account folder
 there's one that's 44k .. sounds more likely ..?

It is more likely to be the one in the account folder as each account has its
own set of filters, so would probably store it in its [account] own folder.

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