Re:Spam mistery!
Hello, CK> What kind of encryption is that? Can someone tell me what this is? I solved it myself. These are only html comments with random letters. The sentence is scattered all over among the comments. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile:+46739891279 tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 This message was created on Friday, June 13, 2003 using 1.63 Beta/11. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam mistery!
Hello, I have just recieved a spam mail that sneaked thorugh K9. I have never seen anything like it. It contained a single sentence: > I heard the shower going and saw her clothes laying on the floor , when I peeked in > . I got my courage up an click here to unsubscribe. When I looked at the source, I saw this: I heard the shower going and saw her clothes laying on the floor , when I peeked in . I got my courage up an http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/fsw/rem">click here to unsubscribe. What kind of encryption is that? Can someone tell me what this is? -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden mobile:+46739891279 tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created at 9:24:04 PM, on Friday, June 13, 2003, using !TheBat 1.63 Beta/11. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Useful spam filter
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 8:10:43 PM, you wrote: nwd> Whilst I'm not a moderator of this list, may I remind the majority of you nwd> who are chatting in this thread that this list is about an email program nwd> called "The Bat!", and not Spam filtering, the internet and privacy, and nwd> whatnot. nwd> Thank you. Spam filtering is a crucial part of handling e-mails. Even The Bat does it. I don't see any off-topic in it. -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Automated response(?)
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 8:19:37 PM, you wrote: MA> C'Mon folks! Grow up! Have a dialog! Quit with the namby-pamby, blind MA> goody-goody e-mail is the salvation of man stuff already! It is NOT! [...] I hate flame-wars just as much you do. But you provoke it with your style and "flower" language. HMTL mail is here and will stay whatever you declare and even if you were there at the creation of e-mail. Life changes and evolves. E-mail is changing into html. I am glad you can't do anything about it. Even TheBat supports it. I don't use it usually. But sometimes if I need it I use it to enhance my mails. Try to be a little bit more open-minded. People might get to like you. -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Useful spam filter
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 7:44:22 PM, you wrote: MA> Fine. Those who created e-mail, and I was present for that, are MA> declared the losers, and those who want to send pretty flowers and MA> silly pink backgrounds with their e-mails (never mind that it gets MA> bloated 10-times necessary size), are declared in your book victorious MA> and I, with my stodgy old ideas of what e-mail is and should be--am MA> the "enemy." The era of 28k modems are over. Get on with it! I could not care less if a message is 1 kb or 10 kb, or God forbid 1 Mb. MA> "Paranoid/" Please get serious, and stop with the left-handed insults MA> already my young friend. Want me to put your e-mail address on usenet MA> just so you can see what some people have deal with? Of course not. Listen old man! Looking at your e-mail rules I tend to think that you are the kind of man who is capable of doing that. MA>>> Read my lips: Not a thing draconian about that logic. >> Your rules are way too serious in my opinion. MA> I will defend your right to have an opinion. I will defend your right MA> to express that opinion. Kindly respect my right to have mine and to MA> disagree without insulting me. I am sorry, I do not even know what you mean by that. Probably my English is not good enough for that. I have not insulted you. But the "read my lips" expression was a bit too harsh. Please read my email and think again! -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Useful spam filter
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 6:49:12 PM, you wrote: MA> >> The filtering system you presented, if I remember correctly, rejects >> all HTML email out of hand. This seems kinda draconian to me. I'll >> bet a lot of those rejections are false positives. POPFile actually >> reads the HTML and can correctly distinguish spam-HTML from >> non-spam-HTML. MA> To this author, e-mail is text; HTML belongs on the web; HTML in MA> e-mail is spam. No, it is not. There's no need to be paranoid about e-mails. MA> Read my lips: Not a thing draconian about that logic. Your rules are way too serious in my opinion. But if this is that blows your hair back. Go with it! -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Useful spam filter
Hello, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 11:44:19 PM, you wrote: RK> Hi Mark, RK> On Thursday, June 12, 2003, 23:17:05, Mark wrote: >> Here is a regex spam filter folks might find useful RK> That is a good way to start, but there are more powerful spam filters. RK> [...] I used spampal with quite good success. You can download it from here: http://www.spampal.org.uk I tried to use different plugins with it mainly regex and bayesian plugins. But in my experience, it worked best without those. They gave me too many false positives, which in my mind is more dangerous than having some spam spill-over in my mailbox. Two months ago, I heard about a new bayesian filter called K9. Since I love dogs and wanted a statistical filtering, I installed it. I can only say good things about it. After a week teaching it is nearly perfect over 98%. You can use white- and black list, but in my case it was not necessary. There's only one problem that I saw, which is negligible. If one receives an e-mail with a large attachment, K9 chews on it for quite some time. You can give it a try here: http://keir.net . Both are free, by the way! -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:A Useful spam filter
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 1:02:32 AM, you wrote: CK> There's only one problem that I saw, which is CK> negligible. If one receives an e-mail with a large attachment, K9 CK> chews on it for quite some time. You can give it a try here: CK> http://keir.net . I have just checked. The new 1.05 version already corrected this problem by limiting the size of the filtered e-mail messages. -- Best regards, ________ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Install S/MIME certificate?
Hello, Monday, June 9, 2003, 4:29:37 PM, you wrote: >>> Anyway, I'm still SOL on the S/MIME. Looks like we have run out of >>> things to check. So much for using S/MIME! I have been following this thread lately with great enthusiasm. I did not understand much of it but mainly one question bugs me very much? What is it good for? -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile:+46739891279 tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Apology!
Hello, I just wanted to aplogize for my behaviour. I must have drunk to much coffe in the afternoon. I let too much steam out on other people. Reading back my messages makes me ashamed. Sorry about it again. Back to lurking mode ! -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Sunday, February 9, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:HTML sectarianism :-)
Hello, Saturday, February 8, 2003, 6:47:09 PM, you wrote: RW> Gosh, this HTML thing really is dividing up what was a happy mailing RW> list. It's worse than Catholics against Protestants (or any other RW> religious factions squabbling). I personally hate HTML but PC novices RW> (and a lot of regular users) don't seem understand the difference RW> between that and plain text. It seems that HTML is inevitable and can RW> be termed progress by those who favour it. OK, I'm going to have to RW> live with it but hope that most messages will still be displayed as RW> text by TB! and with an option of deleting all HTML attachments. I think you just further detriorate the situation by calling those who like HTML mail "PC novices". Was it really necessary? Does it make you feel that you belong to the "experts" now? I personally would love to emphasize those two words by making them bold instead of using silly rabbit-ears, but plain text is not capable of doing that. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Saturday, February 8, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Hype over html text!
Hello, This message was created on Saturday, February 8, 2003. Saturday, February 8, 2003, 2:42:45 PM, you wrote: AM> That would count as a derogatory remark. This is not allowed on the AM> list and worse, you direct it at a moderator. I agree that the style of my remarks was over the limit, I will be careful in the future or if I can't stand the pretentious atmosphere I will leave. However, I don't understand why a moderator should get special treatment. -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hype over html text!
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > ~john [j] wrote:' > j>> How do I join the BetaBat list ? > >You can use the following URL: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=subscribe > > - -- > -=] allie_M [=- {List Moderator} > > MUA: TB! v1.63 Beta/6 ___ OS: WinXP Pro (SP1) > - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Comment: My Public Keys - http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html > > iD8DBQE+REbOV8nrYCsHF+IRAhZxAJ9QLBxXrXbpKbGhsCVeKBUDBabjWACg2VI6 > ZQGCi/TRctD2DpGf5CWZ+PU= > =f/Iv > -END PGP SIGNATURE- The above message contained two lines of useful information. Yet look at how big it is with all the unnecessary crap. And you are bitching about HTML being bloat. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Saturday, February 8, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Looks like html makes to the BAT
Hello, Friday, February 7, 2003, 8:23:52 PM, you wrote: JH> Szia Csaba, JH> Friday, February 7, 2003, 7:53:07 PM, you wrote: JH> I like the useless blah blah some use, and I like cookies at the end JH> too, i mean, one can just _ignore_ them, right? What I don't like, is JH> people who use all that useless blah blah, PLUS cookies, PLUS (and JH> especially) PGP keys and the like, and then scream when someone uses JH> HTML mails ;-) I wanted to write something like that, however, my English is poor and came out wrong. I wonder how did you know to use "szia" :) -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Friday, February 7, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Looks like html makes to the BAT
Hello, Friday, February 7, 2003, 7:34:25 PM, you wrote: S> Hello Csaba Kiss, S> On or about Friday, February 07, 2003 at 19:10:48GMT +0100 (which S> was 1:10 PM in the tropics where I live) Csaba Kiss inquired: S>>> On or about Friday, February 07, 2003 at 11:54:54GMT -0500 S>>> (which was 11:54 AM in the tropics where I live) Kenneth S. S>>> Rhee blithered: CK>> How can I remove this rubbish? Is it really necessary? S> It's called a delete key! ...and yes, it is using the features S> of TB! for the creative expression of the poster. Since when has S> intolerance become a primary feature of this list? Oh, and my S> "taglines" take up less space than the plethora of PGP signatures S> that proliferate here frequently. I am sorry if I sounded mean. I still think that it does not mean if BAT is capable of doing this then it has to be done. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Friday, February 7, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Looks like html makes to the BAT
Hello, Friday, February 7, 2003, 6:20:02 PM, you wrote: S> Hello Kenneth S. Rhee, S> On or about Friday, February 07, 2003 at 11:54:54GMT -0500 (which S> was 11:54 AM in the tropics where I live) Kenneth S. Rhee S> blithered: How can I remove this rubbish? Is it really necessary? -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Friday, February 7, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Looks like html makes to the BAT
Hello, Friday, February 7, 2003, 3:26:17 PM, you wrote: KSR> Looks like html editing has finally made it to the BAT. KSR> I'm sure it will be greeted with delight or scorn depending on your preference. I am really happy about it. I am not one of those "purists". -- Best regards, ________ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Friday, February 7, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Question about greyed out signatures
Hello, Adjust your Options -> Preferences ->Viewer -> Rich Text/HTML. Now it should be nicer. I hope it helps. -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 This message was created on Thursday, February 6, 2003. Thursday, February 6, 2003, 2:12:30 PM, you wrote: lsu> Hi All, lsu> I've been a very happt The Bat! user for only a few short weeks, and I'm lsu> trying to learn all I can about the application. My questions is, I believe, lsu> simple, yet I cannot seem to find the answer to it. lsu> Most of the messages I see on this list have the signtaure and footer in a lsu> light greyed out text. It looks quite sharp. When I send myself a message I am lsu> unable to duplicate this effect. Is this a function of The Bat! (something I'm lsu> missing), or is it something out illustrious moderator is doing? Thanks. lsu> Best regards, lsu> Scott A. Blystone lsu> Rochester, New York lsu> "I sometimes wonder if the manufacturers of foolproof items keep a fool or two lsu> on their payroll to test things." - Alan Coren Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Default Folder column settings!
Hello, Monday, January 20, 2003, 11:12:58 PM, you wrote: RvE> Hello Csaba, RvE> Monday, January 20, 2003, 23:06:05, you wrote: CK>> Hello, CK>> I can not find how to set the default folder column settings. I would CK>> like to apply that to all folders. Can someone help? RvE> Right click on a folder and choose Properties. Then select the second RvE> box 'Use the account default column setting' RvE> Do this for all the folders you want it to apply for. Then adjust the RvE> column settings for one of the folders. The others will follow. Thank you very much. I did the way you suggested and it works like a charm. But I was missled by the name it is called. There is no "default folder" settings. It should not be called like that because the "account default folder settings" can't be found. It should be called "common settings" or something similar. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Monday, January 20, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Default Folder column settings!
Hello, I can not find how to set the default folder column settings. I would like to apply that to all folders. Can someone help? -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Monday, January 20, 2003. Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:thread view!
Hello Gerard, Thursday, May 23, 2002, 8:46:12 PM, you wrote: G> ON Thursday, May 23, 2002, 5:51:58 PM, you wrote: MO>> Try holding down alt while clickin on the subject. That will turn on MO>> advanced filtering and show only messages with the same subject. G> Hi Marcus, G> Also try: G> click on the envelope and get only read / un-read msg's G> click on the author/recipient and get all his msg's G> click on the flag and get all flagged msg's G> click on the "P" (parked) and get all parked msg G> And not only in the current folder but in all! G> Does anyone know of any more things to Alt-click? Every day I learn something really nifty with BAT. You just gotta love this piece of program. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:thread view!
Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 23, 2002, 12:40:33 PM, you wrote: TF> Hello Csaba, TF> On Thu, 23 May 2002 10:09:35 +0200 GMT (23/05/02, 15:09 +0700 GMT), TF> Csaba Kiss wrote: CK>> is it possible to expand threads with a magic button click or I have CK>> to click each and every "+" sign to get to the bottom of a thread. TF> Expand this thread: crtl-+ TF> Expand all threads: crtl-* CK>> It would be also very usful if I could open a thread in a new CK>> message list window. Can it be done? TF> When you encounter the root of a new thread, hit . A new folder TF> view will open. Thanx. "Enter" is not the solution I was looking for, because then the whole list will open in a new window list not the thread only. But it is not too important. I am splitting hair now. :) -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! "While any sensible person knows rationally that having a cheering section doesn't actually improve the abilities of artificial intelligence routines, we'd like to give in to the superstition that it actually can help." -- Geoffg0ffRaye, asking people to come cheer for his team in the MechManiaII programming contest Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
thread view!
Hello, is it possible to expand threads with a magic button click or I have to click each and every "+" sign to get to the bottom of a thread. It would be also very usful if I could open a thread in a new message list window. Can it be done? -- Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.60m on Thursday, May 23, 2002. Kleptomania: take something for it Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:POP3 or IMAP?
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:03:26 AM, you wrote: RO> Hello Csaba, RO> On Wed, 22 May 2002 01:37:27 +0200GMT (22-5-02, 1:37 +0200GMT, where I RO> live), you wrote: CK>> I have just realized that our mail server supports both POP3 CK>> access and IMAP access. Which do you think I should use? RO> POP3. RO> You're using TB and TB has a bit imperfect IMAP implementation. RO> IMAP is more suited to a LAN, because you've got to connect to the RO> server to read your mail (even a second or third time) RO> Of course IMAP has advantages like being able to read your mail on any RO> computer (with an imap client), but with the possibilities that TB RO> offers I prefer POP3. For me connection is not a problem, so IMAP could work very well here. Do you know if it is planned that BAT will be developed toward IMAP in the future? -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power. -- Ashleigh Brilliant Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:POP3 or IMAP?
Hello Mike, Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 1:50:13 AM, you wrote: MD> Original Message: MD> From: Csaba Kiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MD> Date: Tuesday May 21 2002 04:37PM PT CK>> Hello, CK>> I have just realized that our mail server supports both POP3 CK>> access and IMAP access. Which do you think I should use? I read the CK>> same mail account from work and home, so it would be really nice to CK>> see the same messages at both places. However, I don't really see what CK>> IMAP could give me over POP using the BAT. MD> The one advantage of IMAP that I might like is that the mail is stored on MD> the server. So if I have a PC crash, my mail is still on the server and I MD> can retrieve it. Although if your provider crashes, are they backing up MD> their mail servers? Maybe not. Something to think about. MD> I also have the option of POP and IMAP, and I go with POP. I just leave MD> the mail on the server at all of my mail client locations, except one where MD> it downloads the mail and deletes it from the server. That way, I can MD> still see e-mail wherever I'm at. MD> -MikeD I do it exactly the same way. I don't think my postmaster would be happy if I left my mail hanging around the mail server for ages when there are thousands of users there. I leave the messages on the server for 10 days, because that's long enough to download them at clients. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! Actual Test Answers Music Teachers Have Recieved, #5: Henry Purcell is a well known composer few people have ever heard of. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
POP3 or IMAP?
Hello, I have just realized that our mail server supports both POP3 access and IMAP access. Which do you think I should use? I read the same mail account from work and home, so it would be really nice to see the same messages at both places. However, I don't really see what IMAP could give me over POP using the BAT. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.60m on Wednesday, May 22, 2002. "Software is like Entropy: it's hard to grasp, weighs nothing and obeys the Second Law of Thermodynamics, i.e. it always increases" -- Norman Augustine Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:Folder & common folder??
Hello Mike, Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 12:35:21 AM, you wrote: MD> Original Message: MD> From: Csaba Kiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MD> Date: Tuesday May 21 2002 03:25PM PT CK>> Hello, CK>> What's the differnce between a folder and a common folder? CK>> I tried to look in the help but did not find anything useful. :( MD> Regular folders are specific to each POP/IMAP account. Common folders are MD> independent of mail accounts. So for instance, I have a Common folder MD> called "PERL" for my PERL related stuff. Since I receive PERL related MD> material from a mixture of my POP accounts, I have a filter set up in each MD> POP account to move the message to the common PERL folder. MD> Hopefully that makes sense. MD> -MikeD Ok, now I get it. Since I use only one account it does not concern me at the moment. Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! Tom Dooley, translated into Portugeese and back again by Altavista: Dooley hangs below its main Tone, hangs below its head and shout. He hangs below its main Tone Dooley, poor boy, its limit to die. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: mail client for a powermac and/or linux?
Hello Rick, Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:42:43 PM, you wrote: RR> I'm about to reformat an old Powermac 6500 at home and hopefully at RR> some point put Linux on it. I want to use a mail client on there, but RR> have grown so used to The Bat (which it appears isn't available for RR> either OS). RR> Any recommendations what mail client to use? This won't be my primary RR> machine so I doubt I'll actually buy software for it, but still RR> interested in even non-free e-mail clients for the mac and linux. RR> Sorry to post this message here, but since Bat users will be able to RR> relate better than anyone on best mail clients so I trust your RR> opinions than posting on some Mac or Linux site. RR> Thanks I had a similar question recently to the experts. Check in the archives or in your mail list folder for this subject: "Exporting messages from BAT and Linux alternative?" I have received many good tips. However, nothing beats The Bat!. I tried kmail and sylspheed (or whatever it is called). I wasn't impressed with them very much. I think I will wait until KDE 5.0 and Gentoo 3.0 before seriously thinking to trash the Redmond software. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! NEWS! Iraqi head seeks arms Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Folder & common folder??
Hello, What's the differnce between a folder and a common folder? I tried to look in the help but did not find anything useful. :( -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.60m on Wednesday, May 22, 2002. "I'd love to go out with you, but the man on television told me to stay tuned." Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:1.60m install
Hello Michael, Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 12:05:06 AM, you wrote: MLC> To install 1.60m, should I just install over what I've already got? Is MLC> there anything I should back up first? I just installed the 1.60m verion without touching the old install. Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:Cookies wanted!
Hello Csaba, Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 8:48:06 PM, you wrote: CK> Hi, CK> I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some CK> collections? Thanx for everyone for the links and files. I collected a nice bunch of "wise-cracks". Now I am sitting in front of my computer and reading my signatures. Isn't that stupid? Best regards, ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! If you're looking to find the key to the Universe, I have some bad news and some good news. The bad news is: there is no key to the Universe. The good news is: it has been left unlocked. -- Swami Beyondananda Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Cookies wanted!
Hi, I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some collections? -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ This message was created using The Bat! v1.60m on Tuesday, May 21, 2002. "Only dead fish go with the flow." Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re:Cookies wanted!
Hello Tim, Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 9:00:14 PM, you wrote: TM> Hey Csaba, TM> My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) TM> to write the following on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 2:48:06 PM. CK>> Hi, CK>> I am looking for funny cookies for my signature. Can someone send some CK>> collections? TM> <http://www.taglinesgalore.com/cgi-bin/tags/taglines.cgi?action=random> TM> or just TM> <http://www.taglinesgalore.com/> It is certainly impressive quantity but I did not find a single funny one after 5 minutes of random browsing. Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Using TheBat v1.60m! "Some days you're the dog, and some days you're the hydrant." Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: A fundamental problem with threaded view!
Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:57:30 PM, you wrote: > Hello Csaba, >> Then I hear the doorbell that I have received 5 new e-mails. How on >> earth should I know in which thread I have just received mail? (Of >> course without the help of the ticker. I am not that daft). > Temporarily switch to View/View Threads by/None (Alt+0) and sort by > Received (time) column, then Alt+1 to return to Threads View by > Reference. The sort order and column is sticky for each view, so you > may have it different for Thread by Reference or None views. Wow, Thank you. That's good enough for me. I did nto know the [Alt]-0 1 combination. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re[2]: Version No??
Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 5:24:28 PM, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Hi Csaba, > @21 May 2002, 17:18:08 +0200 (16:18 UK time) Csaba Kiss wrote in > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You were right. I just updated mine :). Is there a list where I can >> see what's changed between i and m? I can only see the changes for >> 1.60 > It is currently the source of some disquiet - that there is no such > list available :-(. It is understood that fixes include compatibility > with some new AV plug-ins, internal text string changes and some bug > fixes to some of the import wizards. That's ok. As long as it keeps going l and p and z, I know that work is going on behind the bonnet. -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Toolbar question
Hello , I seem to be very active today :). I have two question regarding the toolbar. 1: Is it possible to change the order of the buttons. The "New Mail" button should be the first on the left, since most of the other softwares have the "new" there. I think it is a nice convention and should stick to it. 2: Is it possible to enlarge the buttons? It looks too short for me. (Not too big a problem, though :)) -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:#7911383 Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Kiss;Csaba;;Mr FN:Csaba Kiss EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG:Karolinska Institute;MTC TEL;WORK;VOICE:+4687286259 TEL;HOME;VOICE:+4686554763 TEL;WORK;FAX:+468330498 TEL;HOME;FAX:+468330498 ADR;WORK:;C358;Nobels vag 16;Stockholm;;17177;Sweden LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:C358=0D=0ANobels vag 16=0D=0AStoc= kholm=0D=0A17177=0D=0ASweden ADR;HOME:;;Kungshamra 56B;Solna;;17070;Sweden LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Kungshamra 56B=0D=0ASolna=0D=0A17= 070=0D=0ASweden URL:http://csaba.mtc.ki.se URL;WORK:http://www.mtc.ki.se X-GENDER:Male REV:18991230T01Z END:VCARD
Re[2]: Version No??
Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 4:54:19 PM, you wrote: > 1.60m was made official just a few days ago. I checked now and you can > download m right away. You were right. I just updated mine :). Is there a list where I can see what's changed between i and m? I can only see the changes for 1.60 -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Version No??
> > Current Ver: 1.60m > FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com > Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com > Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com Why is this message attached to all the list e-mails? Personally, the Current Ver: line bugs since I can only get Version 1.6h. So there must be i j k l and m already. Is it for teasing? :) Csaba Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
A fundamental problem with threaded view!
Hi, I have a major drawback with "thread view" system. I can't read all the new e-mail that I have received when I open the mailer. So, I have 5-10 unread threads in the mailbox marked with bold. Then I hear the doorbell that I have received 5 new e-mails. How on earth should I know in which thread I have just received mail? (Of course without the help of the ticker. I am not that daft). Is it possible to configure BAT in a way that if I receive a new message in a session, then the newly arrived mails are somehow distinguished from the unread mail. (For example in k-mail the unread messages are blue and the new enread messages are red). -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:#7911383 Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Editor [was] Double spacing
Hello Rick, Sunday, May 19, 2002, 11:18:44 PM, you wrote: RR> There should be an easy way to compose a message the looks like a RR> single spaced memo with paragraphs indented. I still haven't found RR> a way to do this in The Bat! and am still confused why I can't do RR> it. Can someone please help explain this. All I know is I have RR> shown others the Bat and the simply can't get this editor. Before RR> you start yelling "Well, that's there dumb ass fault," I ask "Is RR> it really?" I still don't think it's that unreasonable for a user RR> to be able to type up an e-mail message as if they were typing up RR> a single spaced paper in a book with indented paragraphs that are RR> easy to go back and edit. I am totally with you. I find this the most annoying feature (or bug) of TheBat. Csaba Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Exporting messages from BAT and Linux alternative?
Hello, I am a happy user of BAT. I am thinking about to move from Windows to Linux. However, the lack of BAT-like e-mail client for Linux prevented me from doing so. I am looking for an e-mail client on Linux that functions similarly to BAT. Is there a way to export all my folders and addresses from BAT that can be understood by other clients? Or similarly is there an e-amil client that can import from "tbz" BAT backup files? -- Best regards, Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____ Csaba Kiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] MTC Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden tel:+4687286259 fax:+468330498 ICQ:7911383 _ Current Ver: 1.60k FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com