Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >>> Judging this is difficult just because of totally different >>> traditions. >> Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your >> country & your traditions. > Dominik is from Poland! I saw here in Germany also Polish television > and the commentaries there are like in the most countries of the > world: This has been the action of insane fanatics. Not quite. I'm negativelly surprised by some polish TV stations. Some informations are old, according to CNN or CNBC, or they don't even appear! So I watch NBC, CNBC, CNN, EuroNews RTL II and RTL II Austria to know what's going on. I do study Polish Internet also, because informations there are really fresh (If You know polish, ofcourse). > I'm sure that Dominik knows that the Koran don't plead for such > actions! I do. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[5]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >> Judging this is difficult just because of totally different >> traditions. > Not quite. If this is your kind of tradition, I feel for you, your > country & your traditions. No, it is not. Just think. First of all people showned on TV were kids in most. Second of all tell me, how do kids act when they see camera? The make some monkey acts. That's fact. I didn't hear any anti America slogans, but some people tells there were some. Anyway, You can not judge totally different people using Your measure. That's how Indians, Astecs, Inkas died... Different civilisations are always defficult to understand. What You consider to be normal can be difficult to uderstrand for foreigners. And vice versa. Islam is not an evil religion. It is religion of peace. But there are some insane individuals, who interprete Koran in some different, mysterious way. Do You know what Inquisition was? Christians treat murder as sin. But they used to kill. Look whats going on between two religions. Kids can't go to school, because they have to trespass some unpleasant zone. Every religion, believe couses devastation. Why? Because there is always some 180deg different one. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[4]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >>But tell me, was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans _do_ suffer, >>but this is a major mistake, IMNSHO. > But Get Your Facts Right the US didn't bomb Kabul, it's a local > battle not the US, at least not yet. I wrote it few minutes after CNN reported bombings. It took USA 7 min to say it wasn't their helicopters. At that time it was considered to be a fast. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[2]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! [cut - nothing to add] > On the human level - I can only express shock, horror, revulsion at > the loss of innocent life on such a scale and sympathy with anyone > who has been hurt or has lost someone close to them in this > appalling tragedy. But tell me, was bombing Kabul a solution. Americans _do_ suffer, but this is a major mistake, IMNSHO. Best Regards IronHand -- ,----[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re[3]: Terrorist Attacks
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >> Same here. I've been in shock all day and still am having >> difficulty assimilating the days events. > The reaction of the vast majority. What happened was an atrocity, > all those dead people. One thing that disgusted me was when the news > here in the UK showed scenes of Palestinians celebrating. Judging this is difficult just because of totally different traditions. >> My heartfelt condolences to all those affected directly by these >> bombings. I have an uncle that lives in Washington but haven't been >> able to contact him. I also have relatives in New York. > I hope your relatives are alright. This is a terrible time for you. So do I. >> When will people learn that this isn't the way? > Never, particularly since the reaction of many Americans on NG's is > to 'nuke whoever is responsible'. Given the amount of countries with > nuclear weapons that would be a big mistake and could possibly lead > to a global nuclear war. Yes. American thinking can be dangerous. Best Regards IronHand -- ,[ IronHand of MoonFlow ]- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d
Re: Need some advice from you pros!!
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: [cut] > Is there any way I can install two versions of TB on my computer?? > Without causing a lot of conflicts?? Yes and no. You may install two versions in different directories, but they will use the same directory to store files (mails, account configs, etc). However You can export one branch from Your registry after installing first version (You can do it now, because You already have Bat! installed) than install second one in different directory, selecting different directory to store mail. Than You export the same branch, but it's going to be different in data. Now, to make Your life easier (but is it easier with two Bat!s? ;) Create some .bat files, so starting one You instert Your [first].reg to registry and run Bat, and another one to instert second registry info and start different Bat version. O my! It's even more complicated than I thought. And I don't know is it clear enough to understand :))) Best Regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Complicated languages
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >> If not, are there any plans to support Arabic, Chinese, Japanese...? > So my posting a minute ago to tamuz. BTW, there are no "complicated" > languages in computing, but single-byte character languages (most of > them) and double-byte character sets (DBCS; also called CJK - > Chinese-Japanese-Korean). I know that, but try to implement double-byte character sets (now I know its name! 8) in msvc without mfc... > TB displays Chinese just fine except that it does not insert automatic > line breaks in autowrap or auto-format; Should we consider this to be a bug? > Arabic is not complicated. In fact, the writing is much easier and > more logical than English. What makes you think it is complicated? Ok, You're right, but it's right-to-left. Is it supported by TB!? > Kanji is not an alphabet. The Chinese use characters (depicting > meaning), not letters (depicting pronunciation), that's why it is not > an alphabet. You are right and I know that (I even tried to learn Kanji once). But it's easier for me to treat Kanji as an alphabet, because I don't know proper english word for this... hmm... 'Chinese-bugs-on-paper?'. > Kanji is just the Japanese word for "Chinese characters", one of the > three sets of characters they use (four sets, if you count Romanji). So it should be called character set? Ok, good to know. Anyway - thanks! Best Regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Complicated languages
Hello! Maybe like this: Is The Bat! supporting multi-character digits, like Kanji alphabet or others? I know Delphi apps mostly do, but does TB!? If not, are there any plans to support Arabic, Chinese, Japanese...? Thanks in advance. Best regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TheBat! and Arabic support
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: ACM>>> I'd much prefer ... t>> And I'd much prefer a straight answer to a straight question. > We don't always get what we want or we may eventually get what we want > with some patience. Guys! Give Your self a break! Calm down! No flame war, please. I think it's getting hot in here, so please, shake Your hands an stay friends for ever, ok? In my opinion Dwight's post was unnecessary, but tamuz didn't have to reply in such rude way. So do You Allie the Moderator. So please kill this thread, ok? Best Regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Out of Resources Message Error
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >> I know ICQ uses a lot of GDI resources, so I don't know if Daniel is >> running ICQ when using TB!? On my system ICQ eats about 1300 GDI >> objects, while TB! and IE only use 400. > I don't think ICQ should be a problem, unless he has very little > memory. I'm running ICQ all the time I'm connected to the Internet, > and no program ever ran out of resources. (And I'm not running just > ICQ when I'm connected). Lucky You. They are right. Memory consumption is nothing comparing to GDI resources consumption. I don't know why, but Delphi apps show this Error more frequent than others (LCC, VC++). This is one of disadvantages of applications made using Delphi. Best Regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Downloading in Europe
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: Try http://thebat.kappa.com.pl/download/ (Poland) Best Regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Kylix ; can we now get TheBat! for LINUX ??
Hello! As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write: >> does this mean Ritlabs can port TB! to Linux ?? > No it doesn't. TB! is written currently using Delphi 2. With version > 2.x the code should move to Delphi 5 and then to Delphi 6 for Kylix. > As you can see the way toward it is very very long. You are wrong. It just need to be moved to Cliks (AFAIR), so they can move it to D6 straight. The question is: do they, really? The answer is: no. That means rewiting GUI from scratch (they need it anyway) and GUI is, I think, about 60-70% of work. Anyway, TB! works on some WinEmus on Linux. Best Regards IronHand -- ,--[ IronHand of CruX ]--- GCS d- s:- a19 C+++ UL P+++ -. |MAIL:[EMAIL PROTECTED] L+++@ E- W+++ N+ o? K w+++ !O M | | WWW: +none yet+ICQ:43598300 V- PS+ PE- Y PGP- t+ 5+ X-- R++ | `- tv- b+ !DI D+ G++ e h!>h++ r y? -' -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
SOT: TB! lists
Hello!
It's a silly one. How to subscribe TBTECH and TBOT?
Best regards
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Re: Saying good bye!
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
> I want to inform you, that my online activities will end shortly and I
> will then not be attainable. After an increase in rent of DM
> 200,00 I cannot afford it any more. Ich wish you all the best for the
> future.
In Poland (where You move in the near future) You can use modem-based
connection as I do. It cost me 15-20$ per month (I don't know how is DM
right now). It's the easiest, but not cheapiest way to stay on group.
However You will not be online all the time. But there are many options.
Whatever You choose: see You around. :)))
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re: SOT: Open Source Software (Was: Re: Versions Coming Fast & Furious)
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
I>> Well, I don't understand what You mean. The Bat! is not OS. I'm a
I>> little confused...
> TB! isn't an OS but it *is* a program like an OS :-). In an Open Source
> world every program is available in it's sources; there are no
> differencies between OSes and apllications.
It is not! Open source program is OS because in most causes author wants
Everybody to look in code and help him posting bugs with fixes ;)))
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Re[5]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
I>> There is nothing like finished program, so You want us think, that every
I>> program is a trial verion? Cute! ;)))
> Few programs other than the most trivial are ever "finished" anymore.
Well I know that. I was kidding...
> Yes,
> I'm afraid that every piece of software you buy or use is essentially a
> beta that someone in authority has decided is good enough to call a
> release.
I think that's obvious. Someone has to say: 'stop! hold on! that's
enough!'. I the other case no program would be ever released.
> Only people who don't code -- and I mean seriously code -- can
> possibly accept the idea that all software isn't trial and error.
I'm sure there isntt anything as 100% bug free program.
> If not, can you please explain the term "beta tester", then?
I do agree with You, but beta tester is someone using beta verion of
program. I know, that even final version has bugs. But usualy program
creators doesn't take any responsibility for any damage caused byusing
the program. If You don't like it - don't use it!
What is beta different to full version then? Not many people seen it, so
it's not tested enough.
>>> Installing every version you find on the FTP site is simply madness, AFAIC.
I>> Why? Driving while beeing drunk is a madness. Using Outlook Express is
I>> an insanity. But downloading every version on program XXX means, that
I>> You like it.
> It also means you don't mind bugs, because they're going to be there. So
> it means you don't fear data loss, or whatever. Madness in my book, sorry.
No, I would rather have bug free program but it's imposible! More code
means more bugs. Using this or that version doesn't mean I don't mind
bugs. It means (in my case) I'm curious about new version enough to
download it.
I>> And thats why I download every single version.
> You're a busy fellow. ^_^
Why?
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Re[2]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
>> There is nothing like finished program, so You want us think, that every
>> program is a trial verion? Cute! ;)))
> He is kinda right though, every program that's shipped out has
> minor or major bugs that lurk in the dark just waiting to bite,
> the only diff is that the shipped out program contains much
> lesser bugs then betas.
But tirl is something _really_ different, that's what i meant. I know,
that bugs are always ard everywhere...
>> BTW: I think, that the letter a-z is a bugfix. I just couldn't
>> understand, why RIT didn't do any patch program. So I've checked
>> differences between 1.52c and 1.52e. Exe length is equal, so it's highly
>> posible, that only some value passed to some object was changed. I was
>> wrong! The Bat! weights about 3.7 mb, and 1.5 mb changed, co patch would
>> be not very lighter.
>> And thats why I download every single version.
> Hmm... the problem of a little patch app was debated here, in
> fact I think I started it :)
> hmm lemme se 1/3 dl time, that would mean for me 5 mins instead
> of 15, I _can_ se an obvious advantage.
Well I'll try to make 1.52d->f patch and see what is the weight save,
ok? I know, that that's a _big_ difference, but can't You use some
mirror? I live in POland and using Unofficial Polish The Bat site.
(http://thebat.kappa.com.pl)
> Then again, at least at this point Open Source is very similar
> with the M$ world. Open S. programmers do not build patches,
> they just make them available for program sources and the users
> can rebuild the programs themselves...
Well, I don't understand what You mean. The Bat! is not OS. I'm a little
confused...
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Re[3]: Versions Coming Fast & Furious
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
> Doubtful, but a lot of users have probably flipped.
Just curious: what does '' mean?
> probably wait myself for at least version 1.6 -- and even that wouldn't
> have a version number that would *make* me download it. ^_^
I can live with minor bugs. I download every version available, and I
can remember only once I was furious about bug. Folder purging deleleted
my every email in every mailbox :( That was a disaster!
> Software construction is a trial and error process.
There is nothing like finished program, so You want us think, that every
program is a trial verion? Cute! ;)))
> You get a stable build, you stick with it until a version comes out that
> has some improvement you just can't live without.
Well I can live without CC, but it's quite handy. It only looks bad. :(
> Installing every version you find on the FTP site is simply madness, AFAIC.
Why? Driving while beeing drunk is a madness. Using Outlook Express is
an insanity. But downloading every version on program XXX means, that
You like it.
> From 1.51 to 1.52 is not going to improve your sex life.
B!!! They lied to me! ;P
> And 1.52x to 1.52y is not likely help much either.
BTW: I think, that the letter a-z is a bugfix. I just couldn't
understand, why RIT didn't do any patch program. So I've checked
differences between 1.52c and 1.52e. Exe length is equal, so it's highly
posible, that only some value passed to some object was changed. I was
wrong! The Bat! weights about 3.7 mb, and 1.5 mb changed, co patch would
be not very lighter.
And thats why I download every single version.
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re[3]: 1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
I>> Yes. And I wonder what's the difference (Delete/Abort)?
> I didn't found ay difference... Both didn't anything, or waited until
> the connection to server was established or i one case crached TB... I
> couldn't start it again until system restart...
I was kidding. One of them _should_ stop immediatly, one should wait to
the end of the in-progress action, but You are right - they do nothing!
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re[2]: Time Zones???
Hello!
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> Just out of curiosity, what does "BST" stand for?
Maybe it's some sub-version of BSE? ;)))
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Re: Update on Access Violation Error
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
> Beta 13 works great. Any message I want to delete works perfectly
> fine.
> Beta 14 will produce the access violation as I have previously stated,
> but will successfully delete the message selected.
I wonder, why they're not available any more on RIT server?
> Release 1.52c will produce the access violation as I have previously
> stated, but will NOT successfully delete the message.
Not true. I am using 1.52c and i get an access violation, but message is
beeing deleted. It's also strange, because first deletion takes about 15
seconds!
> The error message:
> Access Violation at address 005F9753. Read of address 0008
> In all cases where there is an access violation the read of address
> is the same, but the Access Violation address is different.
Thats obvious! Delphi reports Access Violation mostly, when program
refers to not existing object (Button, Label, etc.) or its not existing
property (FE: (FObject as TPanel).Caption:='Hello', When FObject is
TEdit type). Every time it searches in a different part of memory,
that's why numbers changes.
> I hope this helps.
Yes, but it would be nice to make beta 13 and 14 available somehow,
somewhere...
> Best Regards,
> Ryan Phillips
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re: 1.52 Message centre/Connection Centre problems
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
> Message centre, I assume this is the Connection centre.
AFAIR this name has changed between betas.
> 1. I was quite happy with the old progress bar and now it has been
> replaced by something hideously ugly.
Informations showed by CC are usefull, but I do agree, that it's ugly.
As someone said "that's when GUI is beeing prepared by programers". ;)
> 2. On checking multiple accounts in previous versions, it would
> sometimes fail to retrieve mail from an account. I would cancel
> retrieval after oking the warning message, select the account and
> retrieve mail ok. With 1.52 the same thing happens but if I now try to
> cancel the download, the retrieval can't be cancelled, no matter what
> option (Delete task or Abort) I try in the Connection centre. I can
Yes. And I wonder what's the difference (Delete/Abort)?
> still navigate around the program but I can't get rid of the retrieval
> task. If I try to close the whole program down, it hangs completely
> and I have to ctl-alt-del to get rid of it.
Well, it's because it's in the developement stadium (Connection Centre).
I also think, that it would be nice to let user choose: Old progress
window or CC.
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re[2]: Secure and The Bat differences
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
ACM>> SecureBat is not yet officially released and is undergoing closed
ACM>> beta testing at present.
> What is the cost of the hardware and the iKey needed to use SecureBat?
> I just wondered if it was for businesses or too expensive or overkill
> for the casual user.
AFAIR it will not be available for 'normal user'. I don't know why,
though. There is also StrongBat! out there, but I don't know the
difference (I think it's not using iKey). Ask Marck D. Pearlstone, he's
one of couple SecureBat users. Read:
http://thebat.kappa.com.pl/index.php?artc=95
This is an interviev with Marck. It also covers some info about this
project.
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re[2]: Linux anyone?
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
>> With many of the other projects I follow, Linux versions are
>> begining to rise. Opera's broswer is now quite advanced, and their
>> has been rumours of Xnews featuring soon on the platform
> I don't know about any current plans to port TB to Linux. As David
> (Elliott) said, TB is written using Borland Delphi and Kylix is
> available to allow Linux implementations
That's not right. Kylix uses Clisks (AFAIR) as its interface, which is
different to the Windows API calls. Clicks _will_ be supported by
Delphi, but in the near future, so I think that porting The Bat! to
Linux without rewriting more than 50% of code is imposible.
> but I don't think that we
> will see any movements in that direction in the near future.
So I do agree with You. :)))
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re: Crash Bug in Bat 1.52c
Hello!
As an answer for Your letter, I would like to write:
> Upon deletion of any message the program crashes.
Thats almost right here. I get 'Exception...' almost every time I
delete message or try to view in new window. I saw something like this
before (I don't remember the proper The Bat! version though).
I'm not sure, but I think it occures only when Message Center is active.
I thought it was because IE was in the background, but that's not the
point.
Best Regards
IronHand
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Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
Hello Jannik, JL> Just remember this: When comparing Becky! and TB you are not comparing JL> two programs at the same state of their development. The current JL> version of Becky! is 2.00.03 and the current version of TB is 1.49. A JL> lot of the goodies in the current version of Becky! will be present in JL> v. 2.0 of TB as well. :-0 So You think, that Becky! developement should be stopped, so The Bat! can release v2.0??? It's silly, I think, because the question is which mailer is the best _now_, not which is beeing developed more rapidly or longer. -- Regards, IronHandmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - exporting in UNIX format
Hello Jan, [cut] JR>However when I go thru the process, TB! offers a huge # of file JR>formats but doesn't indicate what extension I should select for JR>UNIX format so on save, the file name appears w/o an extension & I JR>have to manually assign it to TB!. JR>I'm sure I'm not understanding something in this process & I'd JR>appreciate someone pointing what it is. Well, that's because unix is not like Win at all. There is nothing like 'assign extention to application'. Unix mailbox is usually named as user name or just 'mailbox'. So You see, that extention is useless. You can use anything You want. -- Regards, IronHandmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Zeros in kill filter
Hello Lija,
L> When I drag filter from incoming mail to selective download, I get
L> something
L> like this:
L> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
L> Why are these zeros used for?
It is coused by the way TB saves filters in accont filter file. Try
changing some parameters in filter You had in incoming mail. Then move
it again. Changing location in filtering string from sender to
anything else, or presence from yes to no will change numbers. The
first one is location, the second one is presence. As You see
selective download is realy poor in comparision with other sections,
but every filter takes 255 bytes I think.
BTW: I'm working on a tool, that can move filters between accounts.
Regards,
IronHand
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