Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 5:39:32 PM, in mid:95227506.20131109113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: The only times I can recall having a message land in the wrong folder is when the sender changed something, which had been static, upon which I had been filtering. An examination of the filter and the errant message usually reveals the problem. I occasionally get seemingly random missorts from the filters. Re-filtering corrects it in those cases. In other cases Test Filters is a useful tool to work out what went awry. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Is it possible to be a closet claustrophobic? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello Chris, I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. Have you ever taken a look at the Account's log? If not, please do. 'Account/View log', or 'Shift+Ctrl+A' or click on bottom status bar. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.8.8 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello Chris, I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. Have you ever taken a look at the Account's log? If not, please do. 'Account/View log', or 'Shift+Ctrl+A' or click on bottom status bar. 09 November 2013 That works OK, thanks for the tip. I have looked at the log but failed to see the additional usage it could be put to. Maybe if something as elegant as Fortes implementation isn't forthcoming a mention in the help as to how the log might be used for looking at filters could be added? thanks MAU -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Friday 8 November 2013 at 5:30:39 PM, in mid:1098350051.20131108113...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Hmmm. If I follow the above instructions and right-click on your message (running a later version of TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS Mine is just the seven tick-boxes and the OK, Help, Cancel buttons. And if I click OK, this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5 I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB! messages to my TB! folder. Am I just not understanding what you said? Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button? In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List) That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are Close and Help buttons. For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Greater than being great is being grateful. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Friday 8 November 2013 at 10:33:31 PM, in mid:1936778188.20131108223...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. I maintain this would be a very useful feature, hope I haven't misunderstood the Test Filters option, but I believe it does what it's supposed to do, but I would like to see something showing the history of the copy / move in future releases That feature has existed in every TB! version I have used, from whatever v2.x I started with in 2004 up to the v4.0.38 I use now. Maybe they deliberately or accidentally removed it on a newer version. If nobody here knows, perhaps somebody on TBBeta can tell you. Or maybe RITlabs themselves. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Was time invented by an Irishman named O'Clock? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: M Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button? M In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected M messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL M folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. Ticking the boxes as you stated: http://clip2net.com/s/68Djzd Then clicking OK gets me this: http://clip2net.com/s/68DoYt M The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed M by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the M folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also M has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the M second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for M TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List) M That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages M processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are M Close and Help buttons. As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears M to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do M not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file M somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 4:36:25 PM, in mid:659732828.20131109103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL That's good, it's still there. (-; But an odd design decision to make you scroll across to see it. M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering M results box appears to make no difference. The M results of the Test Filters function do not appear M in the account log. Maybe they are written to another M file somewhere, but I have never felt the need to M look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. It is on the screenshot you shared showing which boxes you ticked. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. I find it useful if a message turns up in an unexpected folder. If the Test Filter results indicate it shouldn't have, I just re-filter. Otherwise I just move it manually, and consider whether a filter needs editing. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com No matter where you go, there you are. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: M Hi M On Saturday 9 November 2013 at 4:36:25 PM, in M mid:659732828.20131109103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL M That's good, it's still there. (-; M But an odd design decision to make you scroll across to see it. Agreed, however, there may be a setting somewhere within the bowels of TB! which govern that. M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering M results box appears to make no difference. The M results of the Test Filters function do not appear M in the account log. Maybe they are written to another M file somewhere, but I have never felt the need to M look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. M It is on the screenshot you shared showing which boxes you ticked. Ah! Grayed out therefore ignored by my visual cortex. Since you were able to actually tick or un-tick that box, yours must not be grayed out. No combination of ticked and un-ticked boxes would un-gray that option for me. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. M I find it useful if a message turns up in an unexpected folder. If the M Test Filter results indicate it shouldn't have, I just re-filter. M Otherwise I just move it manually, and consider whether a filter needs M editing. The only times I can recall having a message land in the wrong folder is when the sender changed something, which had been static, upon which I had been filtering. An examination of the filter and the errant message usually reveals the problem. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Saturday, November 09, 2013 you wrote: M Which boxes did you have ticked when clocking the OK button? M In my version, with just the incoming mail and re-filter selected M messages only boxes selected, for a single message in my TBUDL M folder, clicking OK gets me two dialog boxes. Ticking the boxes as you stated: http://clip2net.com/s/68Djzd Then clicking OK gets me this: http://clip2net.com/s/68DoYt M The first has a title of test results and a body text of Processed M by: The Bat! User Discussion List. Actions performed: Moved to the M folder \\[Path to]\The Bat! User Discussion List. That dialog box also M has an OK button and when I click, the box disappears and shows the M second one that was hidden behind it. (My filter and my folder for M TBUDL messages are both called The Bat! User Discussion List) M That one's title is Test filters and its body text is Messages M processed: 1. Messages Filtered: 1. Re-filtering complete. There are M Close and Help buttons. As you can see, your Test filters box and mine differ. The box within the box contains a single long line which describes what actions were taken with this message as follows: Message from MFPA, subject Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used., size 6,368 bytes filtered (processed by Processed by: Faux inbox. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\Faux inbox, Processed by: TBUDL List Server. Actions performed: Move to the folder \\Jack S. LaRosa\TBUDL), URL: msgid:04868015.20131109140042@my_localhost?folder=\\Jack%20S.%20LaRosa\TBUDL M For what it's worth, ticking the log filtering results box appears M to make no difference. The results of the Test Filters function do M not appear in the account log. Maybe they are written to another file M somewhere, but I have never felt the need to look for one. Nowhere do I see an option to log filtering results. I can only assume the difference in our versions is causing the disparity. I've never used the right-click test filters option anyway. I usually use the FOLDER + RE-FILTER and then only if I've created a new filter or modified an old one. Even then I'm only interested in whether the filter worked or not and not in how it worked. I can see however how such information might help in determining why a new or modified folder failed to work. I'll try it next time. 09 November 2013 I wasn't aware of the window behind the first one. The second window is there and does indeed do what I was hoping for, thanks for pointing out where I was going wrong. -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Friday, November 08, 2013 you wrote: M Right-click any message in The Bat! and select Test Filters. You can M find out the name of each filter that would process the message, and M what action would be taken by the filter. Hmmm. If I follow the above instructions and right-click on your message (running a later version of TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS And if I click OK, this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5 I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB! messages to my TB! folder. Am I just not understanding what you said? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hello MFPA, On Friday, November 08, 2013 you wrote: M Right-click any message in The Bat! and select Test Filters. You can M find out the name of each filter that would process the message, and M what action would be taken by the filter. Hmmm. If I follow the above instructions and right-click on your message (running a later version of TB! than yours), then click Test Filters this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hktS And if I click OK, this is what I get: http://clip2net.com/s/68hlX5 I do have a filter that routes all incoming TB! messages to my TB! folder. Am I just not understanding what you said? 08 November 2013 I see the same, which is not really telling me how a message was routed to that folder. I was expecting something that showed the filter, or filters, used to move or copy it there. I maintain this would be a very useful feature, hope I haven't misunderstood the Test Filters option, but I believe it does what it's supposed to do, but I would like to see something showing the history of the copy / move in future releases ;) Thanks. -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
Hi On Wednesday 6 November 2013 at 9:11:20 PM, in mid:699935416.20131106211...@chriswilson.tv, Chris Wilson wrote: Not sure if this is an appropriate place to post this, but here goes. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt used to be the place but I don't know now that isn't working. Forte Agent has a very useful feature whereby you can view why it has filtered (Routed in Agent speak) a message to a certain folder. With lots of folders and the occasional complex filter I feel this would be an extremely useful addition to The Bat! Screen shot at http://www.gatesgarth.com/routing.jpg Right-click any message in The Bat! and select Test Filters. You can find out the name of each filter that would process the message, and what action would be taken by the filter. (I say would because it tests using the current filter set, and you may have added, deleted, or edited filters since that message came in.) As well as testing the message against incoming filters you can also test it against read, replied, or outgoing filters. Not pretty tables like your screenshot, but probably just as useful. I use it sometimes if a message appears in an unexpected folder, or to test after editing/adding filters. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature request? Messages display filtering used.
06 November 2013 Not sure if this is an appropriate place to post this, but here goes. Forte Agent has a very useful feature whereby you can view why it has filtered (Routed in Agent speak) a message to a certain folder. With lots of folders and the occasional complex filter I feel this would be an extremely useful addition to The Bat! Screen shot at http://www.gatesgarth.com/routing.jpg Thanks. __ Best Regards, Chris Wilson mailto:ch...@chriswilson.tv Using The Bat! v5.8.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[Feature request] disable auto-detection of S/Mime certificate to allow eID signatures
Hi, A small request i've already made a couple of time... just a hope that it could reach the right people at Ritlabs :) Could it be possible to manualy select a S/Mime certificate to sign an eMail ? In Belgium, we use an eID : the electronic identity card, with this card we can use an officially certified certificate to sign our documents like emails... the problem with TheBat! is that this certificate does not contain any email address : the purpose is not to certify the email address, but the identity (name) like a real signature, wichever email address we use... and TheBat! when i request to sign an email try to automatically find a certificate with my email address... of course it does not work : TheBat! does not find the right certificate as it does not contain my EMail address, and thus TheBat! refuse to sign the message... if only it could be possible to manually select a certificate... Of course, i *must* use the MS Crypto API and not the internal implementation, to be able to use the external eID reader configured for the MS Api... From my point of view it should not be too difficult to allow that, and would be a really major improvement in usability of TheBat! in professional environnement (eID signature is the only one recognized by law to certify an email in Belgium, thus pgp or other certificates are not an option). -- Cordialement, Stephane courrier : anta...@freenet.be Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Feature request] disable auto-detection of S/Mime certificate to allow eID signatures
Hi On Tuesday 5 January 2010 at 9:52:56 PM, in mid:56429591.20100105225...@freenet.be, Stephane Bouvard wrote: Hi, A small request i've already made a couple of time... just a hope that it could reach the right people at Ritlabs :) I see you have asked on this list in previous years. Is it logged at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ as well? I looked but did not see it. -- Best regards MFPA Did you hear? They took the word gullible out of the dictionary Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Request (or help?)
There are times when I would like to open a previously sent message, make a few changes and send it again, sometimes to the same person(s), sometimes to others. In Thunderbird, I'd just pick 'Edit as New' from the Message menu, but I cannot find a similar option in TB. The closest I can see is 'Re-send', which prompted me about resending (I didn't) without ever offering any opportunity to edit/adjust. One can work around this shortcoming by creating a new message and cut'n'pasting from the old one, but it seems like it should be easy enough for the application to further simplify this task, as Thunderbird has done. If I'm missing something, please help... If not, please consider this a feature request... -- Steven Vallière | tb 3.99.29 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you didn't write it down, then it didn't happen. -Larry Zana Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request (or help?)
Hello Steven, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 3:53:00 PM, you wrote: SPV One can work around this shortcoming by creating a new SPV message and cut'n'pasting from the old one, but it seems SPV like it should be easy enough for the application to SPV further simplify this task, as Thunderbird has done. Not the same as what you have in mind, but you could right-click on the message, choose send to folder, choose the out-folder and there you can edit the message. -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request (or help?)
Hello Steven, On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:53:00 -0500 GMT (30/01/2008, 21:53 +0700 GMT), Steven P Vallière wrote: SPV There are times when I would like to open a previously sent SPV message, make a few changes and send it again, sometimes to the SPV same person(s), sometimes to others. Move or copy the message from the Sent folder to the Outbox, and double-click on it there. It will open in the editor. -- Cheers, Thomas. CIRCUMVENT: Opening in the front of boxer shorts http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request (or help?)
Hello Steven, The closest I can see is 'Re-send', which prompted me about resending (I didn't) without ever offering any opportunity to edit/adjust. Try re-direct. That let's you edit the message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.16 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request (or help?)
Hello Steven, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 8:53:00 AM, you wrote: SPV If I'm missing something, please help... SPV If not, please consider this a feature request... You could use the redirect button. This lets you change the adressee and make changes to the body. UnfortunatlyUnfortunately it seems to reformat the message for some reason. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.16 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A little trick needed (or feature request ...)
Hi, Does someone know if it is possible, using a command-line switch or any other method, to enter the password on the command-line when using OTFE ? Greetings, -- Claude Renaud Skype : Name : renaud_claude Number : 0870445179 Using The Bat! v3.5.27 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronisation feature request
Hello, I already did post this mail to the BETA-List but I didn't get any answer. So I try to start a discussion in the tbudl-list. Maybe you like my idea, maybe not. As I have seen The Bat offers a synchronisation function which is very important. But as I see the funtion so far only offers the data synchronisation by manual file exchange. What could be a nice feature would be that the file automatically is uploaded on a ftp server (which everyone can configure by himself) where some important data is stored globally (e.g. address books, Scheduler, etc.) In theory even mails could be stored there, however this would mean a lot of data transfer. Therefore an IMAP account is more useful. But the rest of the data (or the data you want - you need) could be put on a FTP server that you even can access the calendar or addressbook from different computers - without thinking of doing the synchronisation. What do you think about that? -- Best regards, Martin Using The Bat 2.04 RC/3 on Windows XP Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronisation feature request
But the rest of the data (or the data you want - you need) could be put on a FTP server that you even can access the calendar or addressbook from different computers - without thinking of doing the synchronisation. What do you think about that? Excellent idea. Let's do it -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Current version is 2.04.04 | quot;Using TBUDLquot; information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature request - Google
Hello TBUDL I would like to see a great big yellow button on the tool bar which, when pressed, will link to www.google.com. This *may* reduce messages of the type: 'where can I find thispieceofsoftware?'. Removing tongue from cheek... -- Regards William http://www.residues.info Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request - Google
Hello William, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:38:03 +GMT (29-1-2004, 18:38, where I live), you wrote: WM I would like to see a great big yellow button on the tool bar which, WM when pressed, will link to www.google.com. WM This *may* reduce messages of the type: 'where can I find WM thispieceofsoftware?'. I am using this for quite some time and it is working like a charm! http://toolbar.google.com/deskbar/index.html -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request - Google
Hello znark, On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:51:43 +1100GMT (29-1-2004, 21:51 +0100, where I live), you wrote: z G'day Henk, I am using this for quite some time and it is working like a charm! http://toolbar.google.com/deskbar/index.html z I've been using 'Daves' Quick Search Deskbar' for quite some time. z Works a treat. z http://www.dqsd.net/ Thanks! Will look into it and give it a try. -- Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Feature request - Google
Hello Leif, On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:47:07 -0700GMT (29-1-2004, 22:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: LG Thursday, January 29, 2004, 2:16:55 PM, you wrote: z I've been using 'Daves' Quick Search Deskbar' for quite some time. z Works a treat. http://www.dqsd.net/ HdB Thanks! Will look into it and give it a try. LG moderator LG Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not LG just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have LG instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Henk. LG This thread is moving into the Off-Topic realm. Please continue this LG on TBOT (this message has been CC'd to the TBOT list to maintain LG threading.) Sorry, you´re right. I should have done the CC in my first reply. -- regards, Henk. __ The Bat! v2.02.3nl CE on Windows XP PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Feature Request
In this case the '@'-sign is changed into blue also. TF The colour should be changed back to normal when a successful attempt TF has been made. Sure, as in 'back to normal' being either 'no new/unread mail' (black) or 'unread mail' (blue), hence the actual state at that moment. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= State at that moment or last state reported... if last line in log file = error than red, else normal. So what does the blue @ mean??? Scott Windows 2000 The Bat 2.01.3 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature Request
Hi Scott, It might be easier to look at the log file to se what the error was. I am assuming that do do not have to many errors that often. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I do not find it easy but then again I have multiple accounts (yea, more than any normal person should have). Since the bat is doing nice things for us (like sign our name) I thought it could alert me to which account is having the problems... The other option I guess I could do is record 30 different wave files, go into 30 different setup configs, and set up the error tone to play my unique wave file... but I got the bat so I could continue to be lazy (hehe) Scott Windows 2000 The Bat 2.01.3 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Feature Request
Apart from this. The log panel at the bottom of the screen has always seemed to be lacking one essential detail to me - the account *name*. I am aware of what it picks out from the log files to display, but it wouldn't be too difficult to tack on an account name to that. As it stands, I find it not of much use simply because I have so many accounts. Seeing simply 5 messages received or error, blah blah does not help me. In a single account scenario it would be great. If the last one checked also happened to have an error, the log panel could provide a partial solution to Simon's problem. Partial because it won't work if multiple accounts conked out. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Original message text=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I keep trying to resize the log window to get more than 1 line always visible... but I keep thinking a trip thru the help file will fix that one... Scott Windows 2000 The Bat 2.01.3 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature Request
Hi Thomas Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 8:24:56 PM, you wrote: S 1) I would like to see the folder name in the list change colors when ever there is S an error getting email. When I have multiple email accounts, and hear the same S sound for a get email error, its a pain to track down which one(s) are the S problem on error, change folder name color would be cool. Keep the bold S for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error dings for that account TF No; I have the same problem as Scott. I agree with both of you. This would be very helpful. TF However, I'm not a friend of many colours on one screen, but a pop-up is TF even more annoying, and I have no other idea how to make it easy to TF determine which account failed. Colors are a great way to draw attention to screen objects. Far more effective than most other factors, and this has been scientifically proven. One little problem I can see with this scenario is that the user might have to scroll up/down the account tree if they are all expanded, and the offending account might not be immediately visible. I just woke up, though, and my woolly brain fails to suggest a better alternative than below for now :) Apart from this. The log panel at the bottom of the screen has always seemed to be lacking one essential detail to me - the account *name*. I am aware of what it picks out from the log files to display, but it wouldn't be too difficult to tack on an account name to that. As it stands, I find it not of much use simply because I have so many accounts. Seeing simply 5 messages received or error, blah blah does not help me. In a single account scenario it would be great. If the last one checked also happened to have an error, the log panel could provide a partial solution to Simon's problem. Partial because it won't work if multiple accounts conked out. Or we could have a little error panel button in there somewhere...ahhh..I need to go wake up properly before I do this! Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request
Hello Gerard, It might be easier to look at the log file to se what the error was. I am assuming that do do not have to many errors that often. There is log file per account, so no big help. I find Scott's feature request quite reasonable. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request
Hello Scott, on Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:55:57 -0600 (2003-11-26 18:55:57 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote (at least in part): S 1) I would like to see the folder name in the list change colors when ever there is S an error getting email. When I have multiple email accounts, and hear the same S sound for a get email error, its a pain to track down which one(s) are the S problem on error, change folder name color would be cool. Or change the '@'-sign to the left of the account name into red. S Keep the bold for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error S dings for that account In this case the '@'-sign is changed into blue also. -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.01.26 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature Request
Hi Thomas Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 8:24:56 PM, you wrote: S 1) I would like to see the folder name in the list change colors when ever there is S an error getting email. When I have multiple email accounts, and hear the same S sound for a get email error, its a pain to track down which one(s) are the S problem on error, change folder name color would be cool. Keep the bold S for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error dings for that account TF No; I have the same problem as Scott. I agree with both of you. This would be very helpful. TF However, I'm not a friend of many colours on one screen, but a pop-up is TF even more annoying, and I have no other idea how to make it easy to TF determine which account failed. Colors are a great way to draw attention to screen objects. Far more effective than most other factors, and this has been scientifically proven. One problem I can see with this scenario is that the user might have to scroll up/down the account tree if they are all expanded, and the offending account might not be immediately visible. I just woke up, though, and my woolly brain fails to suggest a better alternative than below for now :) Apart from this. The log panel at the bottom of the screen has always seemed to be lacking one essential detail to me - the account *name*. I am aware of what it picks out from the log files to display, but it wouldn't be too difficult to tack on an account name to that error. As it stands, I find it not of much use simply because I have so many accounts. Seeing simply 5 messages received or error, blah blah does not help me. In a single account scenario it would be great. If the last one checked also happened to have an error, the log panel could provide a partial solution to Simon's problem. Partial because it won't work if multiple accounts conked out. Or we could have a little error panel button in there somewhere...ahhh..I need to go wake up properly before I do this! Cheers, -- Vishal Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request
Hello Peter, On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:10:08 +0100 GMT (28/11/2003, 03:10 +0700 GMT), Peter Ouwehand wrote: [FETCH or SEND failed] S on error, change folder name color would be cool. Or change the '@'-sign to the left of the account name into red. Yes, that would be a good idea IMHO. But I fear that means another icon has to be added and that causes problems with the glymphs grid. Or does it? S Keep the bold for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error S dings for that account In this case the '@'-sign is changed into blue also. The colour should be changed back to normal when a successful attempt has been made. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It takes money to make money because you have to copy the design exactly. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.26 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Feature Request
Hello Thomas Fernandez, on Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:05:45 +0700 (2003-11-28 02:05:45 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote (at least in part): TF [FETCH or SEND failed] S on error, change folder name color would be cool. Or change the '@'-sign to the left of the account name into red. TF Yes, that would be a good idea IMHO. But I fear that means another TF icon has to be added and that causes problems with the glymphs grid. TF Or does it? My opinion: what problem? TB! programming / functionality should not be limited by some glyphs grid size. Adjust it, give it some version number, whatever to identify it. Then the TB version using the extended glyphs can test the glyphs-version and either accept or reject it. An older version should not accept anything beyond 'what's defined for it' anyways (called 'good programming', in other words: don't accept anything the program doesn't don't know of), so there should be no problem there. Version numbering / identification for _whatever_: the key to prevent problems. Implementing the available information correctly is the next key (accept / reject). I think a red '@' is less intrusive (just informative) than a whole 'line' being marked. Also, marking a whole line may be confusing now the new folder-color-groups seem to withstand beta tests. Maybe the programmers find some way to accomplish this. In this case the '@'-sign is changed into blue also. TF The colour should be changed back to normal when a successful attempt TF has been made. Sure, as in 'back to normal' being either 'no new/unread mail' (black) or 'unread mail' (blue), hence the actual state at that moment. -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.01.56 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Request
1) I would like to see the folder name in the list change colors when ever there is an error getting email. When I have multiple email accounts, and hear the same sound for a get email error, its a pain to track down which one(s) are the problem on error, change folder name color would be cool. Keep the bold for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error dings for that account 2) The ability to have TheBat check email 1 account at a time (sequential or in a que) instead of multi-thread all accounts (set to that time) at once checking. Scott Windows 2000 The Bat 2.01.3 Popfile Spam Filter http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ ... as many people that I have turned on to TheBat, I might qualify as a reseller by now... Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request
ON Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 6:55:57 PM, you wrote: S 1) I would like to see the folder name in the list change colors when ever there is S an error getting email. When I have multiple email accounts, and hear the same S sound for a get email error, its a pain to track down which one(s) are the S problem on error, change folder name color would be cool. Keep the bold S for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error dings for that account S 2) The ability to have TheBat check email 1 account at a time (sequential or in S a que) instead of multi-thread all accounts (set to that time) at once checking. Hi Scott, It might be easier to look at the log file to se what the error was. I am assuming that do do not have to many errors that often. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= What's the point of washing off your ball when teeing off on a water hole? Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:14:43 +0100 GMT (27/11/2003, 02:14 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: S 1) I would like to see the folder name in the list change colors when ever there is S an error getting email. When I have multiple email accounts, and hear the same S sound for a get email error, its a pain to track down which one(s) are the S problem on error, change folder name color would be cool. Keep the bold S for new/unread email, just give it a red if the error dings for that account It might be easier to look at the log file to se what the error was. I am assuming that do do not have to many errors that often. No; I have the same problem as Scott. I get the error sound, but then I have to open the logs for currently 12 accounts (others have more) to see which account it was that failed to pick up mail. What he is asking for, and I second that, is an easy way to determine which account has a problem. If this is done by colouring the account name (not folder name), I would also think that the colour should be changed back to normal when the mail check is successful the next time. However, I'm not a friend of many colours on one screen, but a pop-up is even more annoying, and I have no other idea how to make it easy to determine which account failed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. They recently conducted a marijuana taste test. Nobody seems to be able to remember the results. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.01.26 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request!
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:50:41 -0600 GMT(05/03/2003, 4:50 PM + GMT), Spyder wrote: S Why not go 1 step further and change the font color of the errored account in S the account list to red (or some other configurable color)? The account is S bolding when unread messages are in it... I don't know that I could remember 30 S different sounds for error and email is here. Yes - I'd support that strongly! Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request - Launch into Notepad
Hey Peter, My MUA believes 'Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws72 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu)' was used to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, March 7, 2003 at 3:54:53 PM. PP Albeit I wouldn't use Notepad, but my beloved GViM :-) I am with you there Peter! I had to decode a M$ Ol header file, but first I had to save it to disk! Would be much nicer to just right click, and open in gVim! -- Tim Musson Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A person with a green thumb has a sore back and red knees to match Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
simple feature request
Hellow tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com i wish: - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. I never use Check for all, i never use Send for all -- Best Regards, Task Control mail: TaskControl at SoftHome dot net Using: - Windows 98 4.10.1998 - AVG 6.0 Free Edition - The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 - Trillian PRO 1.0 B Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: simple feature request
On Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 18:29:28GMT -0400 (which was 5:29 PM where I live) Task Control wrote and made these points on the subject of simple feature request: TC Hellow tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com TC i wish: TC - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. TC I never use Check for all, i never use Send for all As a quick fix, I think you could check the combined send and receive box for each account, then a check all would send and receive for all of them, I think. -- Best regards, David Let History Never Forget The Name Columbia Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: simple feature request
Hello Task, On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 18:29:28 -0400 GMT (10/03/03, 05:29 +0700 GMT), Task Control wrote: i wish: - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. Alt-F2 does that over here. I never use Check for all, i never use Send for all Me neither. That's why I have marked Combined Delivery (send + receive) in all accounts under Account / Properties / Transport. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: simple feature request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 09, 2003, Task Control wrote... i wish: - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. I never use Check for all, i never use Send for all There is a way around this... set all your accounts to send at time of checking mail (combined delivery check box found in account properties, transport)... the go into the shortcut editor, and assign a shortcut key to check mail for all accounts... That should work I imagine. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPmvD7SuD6BT4/R9zEQKm/ACffT5qk83+iuePBKFuR6rmnwu5Pf4AoN7/ /65KR+sopX1fv7gvB7H14EBY =vYou -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: simple feature request
Hallo Task, On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 18:29:28 -0400GMT (9-3-03, 23:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TC i wish: - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. Simple, just press F11 Whenever you miss a shortcut for a function that's already in TB, you can assign it with the shortcut editor: View - Edit shortcuts -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: simple feature request
Hello Jonathan, On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:44:57 -0600 GMT (10/03/03, 05:44 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: i wish: - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. There is a way around this... set all your accounts to send at time of checking mail (combined delivery check box found in account properties, transport)... the go into the shortcut editor, and assign a shortcut key to check mail for all accounts... That should work I imagine. You have an idea here, but it is easier than you think: Go into the shortcut editor and assign a shortcut to Send + Check for All. It's under [Info} Send/Receive drodown. BTW, @TaskControl: The shortcut editor is under View and not under Tools, as one would expect. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: simple feature request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, March 09, 2003, Thomas Fernandez wrote... i wish: - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all. There is a way around this... set all your accounts to send at time of checking mail (combined delivery check box found in account properties, transport)... the go into the shortcut editor, and assign a shortcut key to check mail for all accounts... That should work I imagine. You have an idea here, but it is easier than you think: Go into the shortcut editor and assign a shortcut to Send + Check for All. It's under [Info} Send/Receive drodown. Heh... fancy that... They have two menus with the same options, the second one having an additional option. Although I can see why, they're trying to build a tree to match the list of menus based on what you get when you do certain things. I only looked under the system tray pop-up... Didn't think to go any further as I'd have assumed they'd be mapped to the same functions. Which would be a logical assumption I guess... Send for all accounts should be the same whether it from the system tray, or when you are reading a mail... I'd have thought anyway... :) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPmvKvyuD6BT4/R9zEQLVAQCgp7lOpF0bFjKvb5iORhLQriCfN+QAn1uz LB9iAT9msUE6EnBTEeZqHS2y =n2Ma -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request - Launch into Notepad
Hi Miguel, On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:28:04 +0100 Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HATE HATE HATE HTML emails... but it appears that most newer users don't know any better and send emails in them. I love the way that The Bat makes them seperate files/attachments so that I do not have to endure the HTML hoopla. When I get the attachment, I would like to view it as source code and not the HTML. What's wrong with F9? Nothing. But there are times when even _me_ is to k.o. to translate base64-encoded stuff to plain-text HTML source, so I guess Spyder has reached this limit sometimes too :-) OK, I was so crazy writing my own Base64-en/decrypter for better handling SpamCop-reports (I want to strip those random numbers befor submitting the mails), but an Open with ... option for some file types / types of extensions (e.g. .att, etc ...) would be nice :-) Albeit I wouldn't use Notepad, but my beloved GViM :-) -- Ciao, Pit Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request - Launch into Notepad
Hello Peter, snipped quite a bit Albeit I wouldn't use Notepad, but my beloved GViM :-) OK, OK, understand. And I would use my beloved TextPad :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature request!
Hi, I already asked here for this feature here (in 2001 I think) but I got no replies at all. I think that could be a good feature a different (configurable) error sound to each account. I have a lot of different accounts here (I think that a lot of people have too)... and every time I hear a error sound (windows asterisk in my case) I need to search the logs to know which account have a problem. Best regards Fabio Bastiglia Oliva - Diretor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Safe Networks Informática LTDA. http://www.safenetworks.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request!
Hello Fabio, Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:11:46 AM, you wrote: FBO Hi, FBO I already asked here for this feature here (in 2001 I think) but I got FBO no replies at all. FBO I think that could be a good feature a different (configurable) error FBO sound to each account. FBO I have a lot of different accounts here (I think that a lot of people FBO have too)... and every time I hear a error sound (windows asterisk in FBO my case) I need to search the logs to know which account have a FBO problem. FBO Best regards FBO FBO Fabio Bastiglia Oliva - Diretor FBO [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree, that'd be a great feature! -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request!
Why not go 1 step further and change the font color of the errored account in the account list to red (or some other configurable color)? The account is bolding when unread messages are in it... I don't know that I could remember 30 different sounds for error and email is here. Scott v1.62 on win2000 with 30 email accounts Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 10:11:46 AM, you wrote: Hi, I already asked here for this feature here (in 2001 I think) but I got no replies at all. I think that could be a good feature a different (configurable) error sound to each account. I have a lot of different accounts here (I think that a lot of people have too)... and every time I hear a error sound (windows asterisk in my case) I need to search the logs to know which account have a problem. Best regards Fabio Bastiglia Oliva - Diretor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Safe Networks Informática LTDA. http://www.safenetworks.com Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Feature Request - Launch into Notepad
I HATE HATE HATE HTML emails... but it appears that most newer users don't know any better and send emails in them. I love the way that The Bat makes them seperate files/attachments so that I do not have to endure the HTML hoopla. When I get the attachment, I would like to view it as source code and not the HTML. Can we add a right click option for the attachments to Open in Notepad or open with?? Thanks!! Scott v1.62 on win2000 with 30 email accounts Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request!
Hello Fabio, Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 17:11:46, you wrote: FBO Hi, FBO I already asked here for this feature here (in 2001 I think) but I got FBO no replies at all. FBO I think that could be a good feature a different (configurable) error FBO sound to each account. FBO I have a lot of different accounts here (I think that a lot of people FBO have too)... and every time I hear a error sound (windows asterisk in FBO my case) I need to search the logs to know which account have a FBO problem. FBO Best regards FBO FBO Fabio Bastiglia Oliva - Diretor FBO [EMAIL PROTECTED] FBO Safe Networks Informática LTDA. FBO http://www.safenetworks.com FBO FBO Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: FBO http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html I'd rather have a visual thingie :) a. if winamp is running you might miss the error sound b. I hate these plings and ploings everytime Windows scews up. I don't want to see The Bat! going on the same route... c. A visual someting is better because it will probably stay on the screen untill you've seen it and can give you more info than a sound. -- Best regards, Ricardo van Eck The Netherlands Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ricardo, @5-Mar-2003, 18:54 +0100 (17:54 UK time) Ricardo van Eck [RVE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... snip FBO FBO Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: FBO http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html RVE I'd rather have a visual thingie :) ... snip moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Ricardo. There is an increasing tendency not to trim messages and I would appreciate it if your would, at the very least, remove the signatures from the messages you are replying to. It would also be a courtesy if those messages included a cut mark before the signature of simply returndashdashspacereturn. Thank you. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+Zj1jOeQkq5KdzaARAoCOAKDw5VKOQrH9y78qBQ/6caK2wuhfcwCdG9+6 tEnPpMB0azmDOrAzdkBIf4Q= =nsme -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature request!
Hello Ricardo, I'd rather have a visual thingie :) a. if winamp is running you might miss the error sound b. I hate these plings and ploings everytime Windows scews up. I don't want to see The Bat! going on the same route... c. A visual someting is better because it will probably stay on the screen untill you've seen it and can give you more info than a sound. It all depends on the colour of the glasses you are looking through. Let's leave it optional/configurable so everyone can be happy :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request - Launch into Notepad
Hello Spyder, I HATE HATE HATE HTML emails... but it appears that most newer users don't know any better and send emails in them. I love the way that The Bat makes them seperate files/attachments so that I do not have to endure the HTML hoopla. When I get the attachment, I would like to view it as source code and not the HTML. What's wrong with F9? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
On Saturday, February 22, 2003, James Olsen wrote: There's also free Win32 version that you can very easily use with ANY email client called SAProxy (http://saproxy.bloomba.com/). It will scan messages and flag them as SPAM (based on your configuration) as they are downloaded from your server to your client. I hadn't heard about this program before although I know about spam assasin. After reading this recommendation I installed it and it does work very well. It doesn't catch all spam but I'd say about 90%, and it is very easy to setup. On a semi-related note, does anyone know if it's possible to setup a global filter of some sort that applies to all accounts? It's a little tedious to have to setup the spam filter on all seven of my accounts. -- Tim Fountain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.tfountain.co.uk/ Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
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Tim Fountain [TF] wrote:'
TF On a semi-related note, does anyone know if it's possible to setup a
TF global filter of some sort that applies to all accounts?
No. This isn't possible. It will likely be possible in later
versions.
TF It's a little tedious to have to setup the spam filter on all seven
TF of my accounts.
With regards to spam filtering, it's best to place the spam filters
at the bottom of the incoming filters list. In this way, TB!
checks messages last with the spam filters.
If you used a global filter, how would TB! know where to apply the
filter. In fact, it may very well apply global filters first.
I do have a few filters that could be applied globally. However,
I wouldn't do so with my spam filter since it's position in the
filter list is important.
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Global filters (was:: Plug-in/Feature Request...)
Hello Allie, On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:58:11 -0500 GMT (23/02/03, 19:58 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: If you used a global filter, how would TB! know where to apply the filter. In fact, it may very well apply global filters first. Hm. I would think in each account you give each global filter a position (or not, if you don't want the filter to be applied to that account). In a central location, maybe under QuickTemplates, you update/maintain the global filters centrally, and each update of course applies to each account in which this global filter is in the filter list, and exactly at the position in the order of filters where the global filter is mentioned. Am I making sense? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. -- Redd Foxx Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Global filters (was:: Plug-in/Feature Request...)
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Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:'
TF Hm. I would think in each account you give each global filter a
TF position (or not, if you don't want the filter to be applied to that
TF account). In a central location, maybe under QuickTemplates, you
TF update/maintain the global filters centrally, and each update of
TF course applies to each account in which this global filter is in the
TF filter list, and exactly at the position in the order of filters
TF where the global filter is mentioned.
TF Am I making sense?
You seem to be describing a sort of like 'common filter' system
dialog.
You define your common filters in this dialog. You then add them as
needed to your various accounts. If you need to make a change to a
common filter, it would then propagate to all the accounts where the
filter is added.
This system would be easier than the current one, only in so far as
updating or changing the filter is concerned, wouldn't it? You still
have to go to each account and add it, the same as copy and pasting
in the current system.
Global filters really should be just a matter of creating the filter
and whammo, it works on all accounts. No need to be adding them to
each account. If you need anything other than this, then go the
currently implemented method of copying and pasting the filter to
the accounts which you wish the filter to be applied.
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Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
~John, On 22-02-2003 01:25, you [~] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ Peter Fjelsten wrote: M But that is also because Spampal has the option to bounce (actually M a reply) spam messages which, to my knowledge, is completely wrong in M concept. If bounce (or reply to) real spam it will get nowhere :) ~ I didn't know SpamPal was capable of this... could you tell me where ~ this feature is located in SpamPal. I didn't write that, Miguel did. I asked for where he found that, too. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.63 Beta/7 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Miguel, In a message with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 21 Feb 2003 21:37:09 , you typed: Have you guys used SpamPal ? MAU Yes, for a couple of days and decided to stay with POPFile. May i ask why? Is Spampal harder to set up? Less ackurate? I also want to use the best, so am curious as to why folks prefer one thing over the other, but it's also of course a matter of preference. - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.63 Beta/5, on Windows 98 4 10 build Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPldTsjg5SXqDEzkLEQM30ACgqeswsY0PXXO7ewsSx9P3QVNjuDgAoOM4 1TroeFK91UJoESGByqLBxnMV =wvjH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Krister Ekstrom wrote: MAU Yes, for a couple of days and decided to stay with POPFile. I never could figure out how to setup Popfile. -- Regards, John Morse Pride is what we have, vanity is what others have Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Krister, May i ask why? Is Spampal harder to set up? Less ackurate? I also want to use the best, so am curious as to why folks prefer one thing over the other, but it's also of course a matter of preference. I'm only interested in Bayesian classification and that is only one of the options in Spampal (actually a plugin if I recall) and I also found POFile easier to manage and more accurate but, like English speaking people say, YMMV :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello John, I never could figure out how to setup Popfile. Once installed the Manual is available: ,- [ ] | To learn how to set up POPFile, please choose one of the following options. | | Installing POPFile | Setting up Buckets for mail classification | Getting your email program to work with POPFile | Training POPFile `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Miguel A. Urech wrote: M | Installing POPFile M | Setting up Buckets for mail classification M | Getting your email program to work with POPFile M | Training POPFile I looked over the manual, but it was way to vague for me. Especially when all I ever seen from the program was a DOS program. -- Regards, John Morse Anger blows out the lamp of the mind Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
On Saturday, February 22, 2003, 22:11, John Morse wrote: M | Installing POPFile M | Setting up Buckets for mail classification M | Getting your email program to work with POPFile M | Training POPFile I looked over the manual, but it was way to vague for me. Especially when all I ever seen from the program was a DOS program. There is a web interface. Take a look at the bottom of http://popfile.sourceforge.net/manual/installing.html -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello John, I looked over the manual, but it was way to vague for me. Especially when all I ever seen from the program was a DOS program. A DOS program If you have installed POPFile you should have aPOPFile Program group in Star/Programs. There you have access to two versions of the manual, one local (installed) if you click Manual and one on-line if you select Support/POPFile Manual. To configure POPFile you have to select POPFile User Interface from the same Program group. The UI is in HTML and will show in your browser. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello James JO I'd like to take a message/messages and submit them to a Bayesian JO filter to learn my good versus spam messages. Try POPFile from http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
ON Thursday, February 20, 2003, 10:24:23 PM, you wrote: JO Everyone's suggestions and comments are very appreciated. Hi James, I will assume that you have seen that there is an option in the filter dialogs to execute an external program under actions. The way I would do it would be to move or copy the msg I want to work on (manually or automatic by using filters) to a specific folder. I would then create a filter for the folder in the the READ section or make one that executes on a short-cut command. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Theirs was a love based on mutual respect. Sidneys habit of always getting two hundred and fifty yards from the tee fascinated Agnes, and he in his turn was enthralled by her shortgame, which was exceptionally accurate. ==P.G Wodehouse - FEET OF CLAY == Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Clive Taylor wrote: C Try POPFile from http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Or try SpamPal http://www.spampal.org.uk/ -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
~John, On 21-02-2003 15:44, you [~] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~ Clive Taylor wrote: C Try POPFile from http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ ~ Or try SpamPal http://www.spampal.org.uk/ Yeah, much better as it has both Bayesian and blacklist lookup. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.63 Beta/7 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @21-Feb-2003, 15:53 +0100 (14:53 UK time) Peter Fjelsten [PF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ~ Or try SpamPal http://www.spampal.org.uk/ PF Yeah, much better as it has both Bayesian and blacklist lookup. Blacklists are dangerous and don't work IMNSHO. Anyone running a private mailserver on a dial-up has their IP listed in the blacklists. Anyone with the misfortune to inherit an IP address long ago abandoned by spammers has a huge problem getting off blacklists. Spammers seldom use the same route twice, preferring to use non-blacklisted addresses. In fact, the majority of folks penalised by blacklists are the innocent. My IP address is on the relays.osiris blacklist as a dialup and I am unable to send mail to some folks. Not without switching to use my ISP's server instead of my own. I prefer to use my own - I know when mail is not getting through and messages *never* disappear on my ISP servers. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+Vj9OOeQkq5KdzaARAqZuAKDXpoOvD/oqB6T6rfSGWgQOWJsv5QCfbLgn AWM1y6iM/jDB/sU7/zOd7As= =7pvv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Marck D Pearlstone wrote: M Blacklists are dangerous and don't work IMNSHO. thanks Marck, could you recommend how you would setup SpamPal ? -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Marck, On 21-02-2003 16:01, you [M] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PF Yeah, much better as it has both Bayesian and blacklist lookup. M Blacklists are dangerous and don't work IMNSHO. M Anyone running a private mailserver on a dial-up has their IP listed M in the blacklists. There are many different blacklists. Some are more aggressive than others. I agree that they may hit some innocent people but with SpamPal _you_ can decide what to do with the marked messages and you can whitelist yourself. With the amount of spam today I feel this is the only way to go. M Spammers seldom use the same route twice, preferring to use M non-blacklisted addresses. Then people better make sure their SMTP server does accept connections from just anyone. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.63 Beta/7 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ~John, @21-Feb-2003, 09:08 -0600 (15:08 UK time) ~John [j] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: M Blacklists are dangerous and don't work IMNSHO. j thanks Marck, could you recommend how you would setup SpamPal ? I don't use it myself. I am trying out some of the new plugins but don't see any advantage over a decent set of filters. Very few spam messages get left in my inbox. In fact, it's weeks since I had one in there. They all get moved to my spam box. From there, I check for slip throughs (real mail - for which I set up a new exemption filter) and submit the rest to spamcop. Looking back in my Anti-Spam trash folder, I see a maximum of 13 spams per day. That's not huge and it seems to me to be stable at around that amount. I attribute the low number to consistent use of SpamCop. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+VkQeOeQkq5KdzaARAj4IAJ4whb4Mg5vCTzNQJTQsHWe3HXzglwCg9itb WGZFfK79jF1PNJO9T+wvO4g= =zQjh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @21-Feb-2003, 16:13 +0100 (15:13 UK time) Peter Fjelsten [PF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PF With the amount of spam today I feel this is the only way to go. ... if blacklists have a positive effect on incoming spam, sure. I don't believe they do. M Spammers seldom use the same route twice, preferring to use M non-blacklisted addresses. PF Then people better make sure their SMTP server does accept PF connections from just anyone. :-? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1rc1-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE+VkRXOeQkq5KdzaARAr9eAJ41VU3UPIOcOerkvNYOw6nb2l0S8QCgmAXN t2mPesUSjwqB9ysKibJdvV4= =BfAh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Marck, Could you share your spam filters with the group? It seems I am constantly adding words and I know there must be another, simpler way. -- Al Jacobus Using TheBat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Al, Could you share your spam filters with the group? It seems I am constantly adding words and I know there must be another, simpler way. Use POPFile from http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ which takes care by itself about adding words, and in any language. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Peter ~ Or try SpamPal http://www.spampal.org.uk/ PF Yeah, much better as it has both Bayesian and blacklist lookup. I disagree. After one month's training Popfile is running at 99.5% accuracy. I'm left with maybe one spam message every two days that's not filtered into my spam folder. Impressive, -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Peter, In a message with [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 21 Feb 2003 16:13:35 , you typed: M Anyone running a private mailserver on a dial-up has their IP listed M in the blacklists. PF There are many different blacklists. Some are more aggressive than PF others. I agree that they may hit some innocent people but with SpamPal PF _you_ can decide what to do with the marked messages and you can PF whitelist yourself. Is this spampal thingy something like Mailwasher so that you first have to go into one program and download mail to mark it as spam or whatever and then go to the mail program? If so, i'd stick with the setup i have now. - -- - -- /Krister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This mail brought to you by The bat! V1.63 Beta/5, on Windows 98 4 10 build Pgp keys available here: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=get_pgp_keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPlZfWTg5SXqDEzkLEQN32gCfcSPot2UAVHYbdj+GVH2qQ28kvToAoOGC FdQJOOwXMk3f8mV0bqGxAZad =udXg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Clive, I disagree. After one month's training Popfile is running at 99.5% accuracy. I'm left with maybe one spam message every two days that's not filtered into my spam folder. Impressive, Fully agree with you about POPFile. I get an average of 30 spam messages per day and the last time I saw a false positive was a couple of weeks ago. As you say, impresive! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define aplugin to do something on a message or group of messages
Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised as spam. If this is not the case, please reply this message without altering the subject. On vrijdag 21 februari 2003 at 11:00 you wrote subject: **SPAM** Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to do something on a message or group of messages G ON Thursday, February 20, 2003, 10:24:23 PM, you wrote: JO Everyone's suggestions and comments are very appreciated. G Hi James, G I will assume that you have seen that there is an option in the filter G dialogs to execute an external program under actions. G The way I would do it would be to move or copy the msg I want to work on G (manually or automatic by using filters) to a specific folder. I would G then create a filter for the folder in the the READ section or make one G that executes on a short-cut command. G -- G Best regards, G Gerard G -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= G Theirs was a love based on mutual respect. Sidneys habit of always G getting two hundred and fifty yards from the tee fascinated Agnes, and G he in his turn was enthralled by her shortgame, which was exceptionally G accurate. ==P.G Wodehouse - FEET OF CLAY == G Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 G G Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: G http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define aplugin to do something on a message or group of messages
Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised as spam. If this is not the case, please reply this message without altering the subject. On vrijdag 21 februari 2003 at 9:07 you wrote subject: **SPAM** Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to do something on a message or group of messages CT Hello James JO I'd like to take a message/messages and submit them to a Bayesian JO filter to learn my good versus spam messages. CT Try POPFile from http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ CT -- CT Clive Taylor CT Using The Bat! v1.62i CT CT Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: CT http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Miguel A. Urech wrote: I disagree. After one month's training Popfile is running at 99.5% accuracy. I'm left with maybe one spam message every two days that's not filtered into my spam folder. Impressive, M Fully agree with you about POPFile. I get an average of 30 spam M messages per day and the last time I saw a false positive was a couple M of weeks ago. As you say, impresive! Have you guys used SpamPal ? and if so, could you tell me why Popfile is better? Just curious, as I want to use the best one for trial. -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin todo something on a message or group of messages
Hello Miguel, Friday, February 21, 2003, 7:57:08 PM, you wrote: MAU Hello Clive, I disagree. After one month's training Popfile is running at 99.5% accuracy. I'm left with maybe one spam message every two days that's not filtered into my spam folder. Impressive, MAU Fully agree with you about POPFile. I get an average of 30 spam MAU messages per day and the last time I saw a false positive was a couple MAU of weeks ago. As you say, impresive! AAMOF, I'm rather happy with using a simple, though growing filter. I tried to install Spampal, but that did not work, all downloading of messages failed. Perhaps I must be glad, judging on the number of messages Frank's Spampal seems to have sent... I'm willing to give POPFile a try, however. What is the URL? -- Best Whishes, Mark using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
ON Friday, February 21, 2003, 5:46:39 PM, you wrote: AJ Could you share your spam filters with the group? It seems I am AJ constantly adding words and I know there must be another, simpler way. Al, Here is my tip: After filtering out al know email try searching for To unsubscribe in TEXT. I have found that almost all spam has this near the bottom sof their mails. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Finesse Shot - Any non-standard shot used to get a ball out of an awkward or impossible lie by bending, twisting or stretching the rules or by hitting it directly through a loophole. Using The Bat! v1.62h on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: **SPAM** Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to definea plugin to do something on a message or group of messages
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On or about Friday, February 21, 2003 at 02:52:02GMT +0700 (which was 2:52 PM in the tropics where I live) Thomas Fernandez posted: TF Come again? How can that misconfigured spampal reply have triggered a TF filter to send the message to 11,000+ people? My CNET virus newsletter filter picked up his hccnet.nl address by mistake. It automagically sends these virus newsletters out to a group containing 11,589 members. Let's see that 19 messages X 11,589 members, that's 220,191 bogus messages this just sent out. Nice job Frank, that probably caused a spike in traffic similar to a minor viral or DOS attack! I've modified the filter to avoid this by including two filter criteria, but it is difficult as the subject line evolves occasionally. Putting it AFTER my TBUDL filter should help as well. -- Warmest tropical wishes, Spike ** The strength of women is that psychology cannot explain them. ** /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Against HTML Mail \ / If it aint a webpage it shouldn't be HTML. XSay NO! to bloatmail - ban HTML mail! / \ Ask Spikey, he hates everything (HTML). -- Using TheBat! v1.62i hamstrung by Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1' -- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Mark, I'm willing to give POPFile a try, however. What is the URL? http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello ~John, Have you guys used SpamPal ? Yes, for a couple of days and decided to stay with POPFile. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hello Thomas, I haven't used spampal, but I see that it is not that easy to configure, judging from the recent flushing of TBUDL by one Frank Nijkamp. ;-) But that is also because Spampal has the option to bounce (actually a reply) spam messages which, to my knowledge, is completely wrong in concept. If bounce (or reply to) real spam it will get nowhere :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Hi Thomas and list, On Friday, February 21, 2003 at 02:36:06 GMT +0700 (which was 20:36 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to do something on a message or group of messages: I haven't used spampal, but I see that it is not that easy to configure, judging from the recent flushing of TBUDL by one Frank Nijkamp. ;-) You can't hold spampal responsible for a wrong configuration. Apart from a terribly wrong configuration, I think it's quite stupid to send a reply to a spammer. I configured Spampal with a white list from my adressbook the first thing after installing (being carefull to have _all_ my mailing-lists in the whitelist), selecting some (!) DNSBL-Lists and after a weeks success with the bayesian-plugin. SpamPal works charmingly now for me. I empty my spamfolder once a ay to Spamcop eg. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 1.63 Beta/7 with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Michael, I downloaded SpamPal two days ago because of people on this list. It was very easy to setup and works awesome and invisible. I put all my spam in a spam trap folder, as suggested on the author's website. Once a day, I go into the spam trap folder and add users to my whitelist that got caught by accident. I believe that in a couple of weeks, everyone I want mail from will be on my white list. Others, I just delete for now. When SpamPal is fully setup, I'll start forwarding things to spamcop. Michael Friday, February 21, 2003, 1:46:46 PM, you wrote: MG Hi Thomas and list, MG On Friday, February 21, 2003 at 02:36:06 GMT +0700 (which was 20:36 MG where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made MG these valuable points on the subject of Plug-in/Feature Request to MG allow one to define a plugin to do something on a message or group of MG messages: I haven't used spampal, but I see that it is not that easy to configure, judging from the recent flushing of TBUDL by one Frank Nijkamp. ;-) MG You can't hold spampal responsible for a wrong configuration. MG Apart from a terribly wrong configuration, I think it's quite stupid MG to send a reply to a spammer. MG I configured Spampal with a white list from my adressbook the first MG thing after installing (being carefull to have _all_ my mailing-lists in MG the whitelist), selecting some (!) DNSBL-Lists and after a weeks MG success with the bayesian-plugin. MG SpamPal works charmingly now for me. I empty my spamfolder once a ay MG to Spamcop eg. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Replied on 2/21/2003 at 2:43 PM using The Bat Ver 1.63 Beta/7 Attachments = none Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Good night Tim, It was foretold that on 21-2-2003 06:53:20 GMT+1100 (which was 20:53:20 where I live) Tim would mumble: snipped a bit T For Windows, there's a simple installer that will install the minimum T Perl needed. Yep, that did the trick. Tnx. -- Best regards, Luc --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.63 Beta/7 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it. Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Miguel, On 21-02-2003 21:42, you [M] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: M But that is also because Spampal has the option to bounce (actually M a reply) spam messages which, to my knowledge, is completely wrong in M concept. If bounce (or reply to) real spam it will get nowhere :) ? Is that a plug-in? Not that I would use it - bouncing is hardly solution and probably does way more harm. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.63 Beta/7 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
Peter Fjelsten wrote: M But that is also because Spampal has the option to bounce (actually M a reply) spam messages which, to my knowledge, is completely wrong in M concept. If bounce (or reply to) real spam it will get nowhere :) I didn't know SpamPal was capable of this... could you tell me where this feature is located in SpamPal. (I know bouncing is not a good way to fight spam, I know that, so please no replies in that regard) -- Regards, ~John Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to define a plugin to dosomething on a message or group of messages
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Hi Al,
21-Feb-2003, 08:46 -0800 (16:46 UK time) Al Jacobus [AJ] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
AJ Could you share your spam filters with the group? It seems I am
AJ constantly adding words and I know there must be another,
AJ simpler way.
First - specific filters - those who know me and I know - move to
various folders.
Then - Anyone in my address book - move to Inbox
Next - non-specific filter - catch those directly to me *except*
some special. Here is that filter:
BeginFilter
Name: To Me
Active: 1
Source: \\Inbox
Target: \\Inbox
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 10silverstones.com
MainSet: 21\s{3,}
MainSet: 21\$
MainSet: 31As seen on
MainSet: 01\d{4,}
MainSet: 31EXTRA INCOME?
MainSet: 31adult site
MainSet: 21Mortgage Rates
MainSet: 20Money for webmaster
MainSet: 50Bat!
MainSet: 00expedia
Actions: faoRegExp,faSetColor
ColourGroup: ToMe
EndFilter
I add other exemptions to this (messages that *are* spam but are
directly addressed to me are rare).
Finally - anything else is spam. Move it to my anti-spam folder.
That's what I do. It's 99.99% reliable. Unlike mailwasher, it
doesn't choke and send 500 bounce messages to non-spam originators
when you unlease backlogged mail after a holiday. It just works
quietly and simply.
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Re[3]: **SPAM** Re: Plug-in/Feature Request to allow one to definea plugin to do something on a message or group of messages
Hi Spike, Friday, February 21, 2003, 8:08:13 PM, you wrote: S My CNET virus newsletter filter picked up his hccnet.nl address by S mistake. It automagically sends these virus newsletters out to a S group containing 11,589 members. Let's see that 19 messages X 11,589 S members, that's 220,191 bogus messages this just sent out. Nice job S Frank, that probably caused a spike in traffic similar to a minor S viral or DOS attack! S I've modified the filter to avoid this by including two filter S criteria, but it is difficult as the subject line evolves S occasionally. Putting it AFTER my TBUDL filter should help as well. Sorry, Spike but, ROFLMAO!!! -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
