Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
JohnSwenson;538756 Wrote: > I tested it quite a bit and never had a problem with an external server. > The only time I ever had any problem with with the builtin server and > that wasn't very often. > > Given the lack of problems that I've had I'm wondering what I'm doing > differently. > > The only thing I can think of is that I don't have album art so I > normally run with the artless now playing screen. > > Are others hearing the problems when artwork is changing? > > John S. No. Standard now playing screen with titles and artwork. No SSH or inbuilt server enabled. The only app I've added is the weather screensaver for standby mode. -- Rangdo GRONDA GRONDA SBT > Benchmark DAC1 > Bel Canto S300iu > MA GR20 Rangdo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5238 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and "burn in"
Getting mine today to replace an SB3, looking forward to improved digital out into my Beresford Dac. Most new bits of kit I've had needed some time from new to "bed in" soundwise. Now the Touch has been out for a while, can any experienced users comment on if this is the case with the Touch? Ta. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Notec, Can I helpfully suggest you go get attention from somewhere better...this is an Internet forum, not real life. Perhaps, say, from a member of the opposite sex? What age are you by the way "bro"? :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] CI Audio VDCSB
Hello, Currently I have an SB3 with a CI Audio VDCSB. The CI Audio VDCSB supplies 5V DC @ 2.2 Amps. Can I also use the VDCSB for the Touch? Can somebody confirm this will work? Thx in advance -- luny SqueezeBox 3 & Squeezebox Controller Synology DS107+, CIaudio VDA•2 DAC & VDC•SB powersupply, Cambridge Audio 840A & Monitor Audio GS20, Van Den Hul cabled luny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77726 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
oofda;538754 Wrote: > This won't work unless you disable the DHCP server of your router before > you try to assign the static IP. You can turn it back on afterward. See > here: > http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16721&p_created=1270698973 > This method seems to work on the Radio too. Thats why I said to plug it into a laptap rather than a router or switch on the LAN. Most people are not running a software DHCP server on their laptop so connecting direct to a laptop will make a connection without servicing the DHCP request. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
Daverz;538716 Wrote: > > > You guys didn't test 24/96 flacs over a wireless network? I tested it quite a bit and never had a problem with an external server. The only time I ever had any problem with with the builtin server and that wasn't very often. Given the lack of problems that I've had I'm wondering what I'm doing differently. The only thing I can think of is that I don't have album art so I normally run with the artless now playing screen. Are others hearing the problems when artwork is changing? John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
tonyptony;538690 Wrote: > John, you think it can be bypassed? Yes is can be bypassed. The operation itself is easy, the hard part is getting the Touch apart. Actually its easy to get apart, the hard part is to get it back together so it still works. :-) Once the exoskeleton is breached its rather fragile. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
JohnSwenson;537754 Wrote: > Right now there are two ways to set the IP address, either ssh and > modify the files, OR try and connect to a machine without a DHCP server > and it will then ask if you want to setup a static IP. > > The easiest way to do this is run a cable from the Touch to a laptop > ethernet port (NOT the switch or router on your LAN), assuming the > laptop is NOT running a DHCP server. Go to settings>advanced>networking > and choose the network type as ethernet, this will try and connect to a > DHCP server over the wire. It won't find one, then give you the option > to use a static IP, say yes and enter the address. Unplug the wire from > the laptop and go back to your normal connection (wired or wireless). > > Yeah its a little messy but you don't have to edit the files on the > Touch. > > John S. This won't work unless you disable the DHCP server of your router before you try to assign the static IP. You can turn it back on afterward. See here: http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16721&p_created=1270698973 This method seems to work on the Radio too. -- oofda oofda's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Arguing with a troll is like mud wrestling with a pig. After a while you realize the pig likes it. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
notec;538741 Wrote: > you have to ask? cant figure that out on your own, eh? Wild guess, to Troll bash the products, create badwill lower the mood on the forum... Is it not more "logical" to bash the duet in the duet forum in treads on topics regarding the duets problems. But it is better Trolling to rant in unrelated treads. Your quote here is interesting, iPhone is probably correct then :) 1) rarely use it 2) HAVE IT SETUP RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR ROUTER 3) live in a dream world Your -are- one of those guys that can't get that your wifi may have problems. Or "live in dream world" where just because a product has wifi it works unconditionally under all circumstances for all people. If you want your questionary filled in 1 No 2 No 3 No, or can I pick a nice one :) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
mlsstl;538734 Wrote: > > > I guess my question is why are you still here? There are other players > on the market. Why not sell yours on eBay or Audiogon, buy something > else and move on? you have to ask? cant figure that out on your own, eh? -- notec notec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SuperDateTime on Touch
The developer (Greg, aka GoCubs) started work on SDT for the Touch and had an early beta, but I don't think he's had the time to work on it lately. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77721 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
notec;538730 Wrote: > Folks that claim they've never had issues with the duet either: > > 1) rarely use it > 2) have it setup right next to their router > 3) live in a dream world > > Good luck to all you Touch owners. You're gonna need it to remotely > enjoy your music. I always find it interesting when someone I don't know tells me what my experience has been with a product. I guess my question is why are you still here? There are other players on the market. Why not sell yours on eBay or Audiogon, buy something else and move on? -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
iPhone;538523 Wrote: > First off your opening statement is completely false and untrue. The > Duet was not a disaster. I have two of them and they have worked > flawlessly for years. Oh, ok. You're right. How silly of my to state the Duet is a POS from day one to now and in the future... it works for you and ALWAYS has. My bad. Or you own five of them and never had a problem. Fanboys unite eh? iPhone;538523 Wrote: > Is the Duet WiFi Network sensitive, in my opinion it is. Ninety-five > precent of all issues with the Duet can be traced back to an improperly > setup WiFi Network or one that has interference or is performing poorly. > This is in no way Logitech's fault or the Duet's for that matter. It is > directly related to the fact that the complaining owner will not take > the time or do what is necessary to resolve his own WiFi issue which is > at the root of the problem. Just because a laptop works OK on a WiFi > network doesn't mean that network is healthy and properly setup. > Downloading Email and Webpages on a bad WiFi Network will still work > without showing major problems, attempting to stream real time audio is > a completely different story. Funny. Wi-Fi is a fickle beast to tame. This isn't the only thing the Duet has problems with. > Second, as others have already pointed out, the Touch basically has > nothing in common with the Duet. The Touch can more closely be related > to the SB3 IE it is the SB4, the SB3s replacement. Yes it is a smart > device where the SB3 was a dumb device, but the Touch in no way is > trying to do what a Duet does or is it the replacement for the Duet. Same OS. Same programmers. No QA. Same issues. Time is all there is at this point bro. > More importantly, I would be willing to bet that you don't own a Touch > so you have no idea what you are talking about and more over are again > making statements from no point in fact! With my subject of "And Now The Touch?" do you really think I'd throw my money away again? Really? > You sir are nothing but a Troll since you obviously don't even own a > Touch and have no way to make any comparisons much less objective > factual statements. How about growing a brain and checking the Forum > before you type. Are there any other posts comparing the Touch to the > Duet? I will save you some time, there are not. The postings and > feedback on the Touch are overwhelmingly positive! Is it perfect and > will even do the dishes, it will not. Is it for everybody, again it is > not. Is it a great addition to the Squeezebox line of products? It is > and again the postings and feedback point this out! Troll? I'm really not - but I can see how my post comes across as such. I'm a frustrated and unsatisfied and jilted Logitech Squeezebox user... yes. The only successful org to ever tame the open source arena was/is Mozilla.org. Logitech sold vaporware with the Duet. It's that simple. Folks that claim they've never had issues with the duet either: 1) rarely use it 2) have it setup right next to their router 3) live in a dream world Good luck to all you Touch owners. Your gonna need it to remotely enjoy your music. -- notec notec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] reformatting music collection
ratso;538481 Wrote: > very useful info jim, thanx. i'm not sure if switch automatically keeps > the original format or not, can't locate much documentation on the > software. it asks you to select your preferences or use the default > settings for compression/sampling which assumes that it changes your > files into whatever you have it set for. Always worth testing something like this on a subset of files with various characteristics to see if it mangles anything. I haven't done ALAC but have tried other conversion/retagging software. Worth getting it right before you spend time converting a large collection. Find some special case files in your collection for testing. Things to look out for after running test: - Is the audio fine? Does it play :) - Does 16/44 stay 16/44 and so on? - Converting it back do you end up with the same thing? Then the tags: - Are the format of the new tags correct. Some software tries to put the wrong type tags or the wrong version of the tags on music. More a problem on mp3s which end up with a bunch of weird version tags. - Look at all the tags on the existing file, and check if they are there on the new file. Artists, composers whatever is important to you. - Check special characters and see what happens to them. ë ê å those kind of things. Also test the software on a folder with special characters in the folder name. (if you have these) - Genres? Don't know the mac software for all this but in this process I find mp3tag on Windows very useful. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77700 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
upstatemike wrote: > Cannot disagree more with this. You are entitled to have your own opinions. But nothing you have written has changed mine. > 3- Keep your router and your WAP(s) as separate devices. The best > location for a WAP is rarely the best spot for a router (and vice > versa) and few devices are going to excel at both tasks. I agree completely with this, but sadly most consumer WiFi routers don't support converting them to being just a WAP. DD-WRT and Tomato, of course, can fix that. But that is a g > The idea that "everything can be wireless", "everything DHCP", and all > running through a combo "wireless router/game console" type device is > going to yield good results is just not realistic. I never suggested anything close to this. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SuperDateTime on Touch
I don't think so. (I vaguely remember something about this) -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77721 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
I honestly meant it as factual without any tone or intent of attack. Working in IT at a large scale I have a different perspective and I can imagine that perspectives are different in smaller company. My apologies to anyone that may have been offended. Honestly. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
andyg;538713 Wrote: > Interesting, especially since I just noticed that the output_threshold > code seems to be commented out in SqueezePlay... will need some more > investigation. I spoke too soon. I was probably testing wrong when I thought there wasn't a stutter. That setting doesn't effect the stutter at all. You guys didn't test 24/96 flacs over a wireless network? -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SuperDateTime on Touch
Search produced a similar question but could not find definitive answer: does SuperDateTime work on the Touch? ... debated if this was better here or in the 3rd party plugins forum. -- ds2021 All your bass are belong to us. ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77721 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Yes my SB3 has its own codes + supports JVC. They've had their own codes for ages. This support was turned on by default which was quite annoying given that I have JVC equipment. Turn on the DVD player and on goes the Squeeze... -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
Interesting, especially since I just noticed that the output_threshold code seems to be commented out in SqueezePlay... will need some more investigation. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
No worries, guys. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
pounce;538704 Wrote: > You must not work at a company of any size or have anything to do with > IT infrastructure. Please, let's try to be civil. That "or have anything to do with..." phrase crossed the line, in my opinion. My impression is that Jim is pretty thick-skinned, but that's no excuse for leveling condescending ad hominem attacks. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
plympton;538688 Wrote: > > I've plowed through the code today, and made some good progress on the > volume slow issue. It seems it might be a dance between reliability > (not overshooting) and responsiveness. How can I go about making this > a parameter somewhere so that I don't need to reset this with every > FlashROM update? > If you create a patch file using "diff -uN oldfile newfile" we can integrate it with the third party Patch Installer applet which can re-install the patch automatically after each firmware upgrade. You can look at a sample patch file for something completely differently here: http://erlandapplets.googlecode.com/svn/PatchInstaller/trunk/patches/dBVolume/dBVolume-1.0.patch As you can see, the patch file needs to be relative to the /usr directory. If you create a patch file I can host it in my Google Code project or as an alternative you can host it on your own server and create your own repository file that contains your patches. For a sample of a repository file, you can see the bottom "patches" section of my repository: http://erlandplugins.googlecode.com/svn/repository/trunk/latest.xml Or as an alternative look at jstraw's repository file that only contains patches, here: http://www.smallproblem.com/touchmeter/jstraws_squeezebox_touch_enhancements.xml Let me know if you want me to host it in my Google Code project and I'll add it as soon as I've got the patch file from you. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
plympton;538688 Wrote: > > Also, I keep bricking my machine when I've got a typo in my edits - any > way to make THAT not happen!? How on earth do your brick something that's already bricked? :-) One trick you might leverage: on bootup, Touch looks for a file named "squeezeos-boot.sh" on local media, and runs it if it exists. It's easy to imagine a script on an "autorestore" SD card like Code: #!/bin/sh # Caveat: untested!!! # replace any ".bak" files on the root ubifs for f in `find /mnt/storage -xdev -type f -name \*.bak`; do oldname=`echo $f | sed 's:.bak$::'` cat "$f" > "$oldname" done so what you'd do before making a change and rebooting is save the old, known good file as $orginalname.bak. When rebooting to test, keep your "autorestore" SD card *out*. If the device seems toasted, unplug it, pop the SD card in, and reboot to restore your .bak files. Add another script to wipe out bak files that you'd run if Touch booted ok, e.g. Code: #!/bin/sh # Caveat: untested!!! find /mnt/storage -xdev -type f -name \*.bak | xargs rm -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
You must not work at a company of any size or have anything to do with IT infrastructure. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue (& Solution!)
andyg;538006 Wrote:
> Yes the main area that is a problem is the initial startup of a 24/96
> track.
>
> If anyone wants to experiment, try adjusting the $outputThreshold value
> in Slim::Player::Squeezebox:
>
> >
Code:
> >
> # Threshold the output buffer for high sample-rate flac.
> if ( $track ) {
> if ( $track->samplerate() && $track->samplerate() >=
88200 ) {
> $outputThreshold = 20;
> }
> }
>
> >
Magic numbers in code, tut, tut, tut. Do I need to restart the server
for the change to take effect?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
pounce;538700 Wrote: > I almost agree, but would state that in an enterprise DHCP is better > even with mostly static machines because of the extra management bells > and whistles it provides. Yes, even servers get DHCP. Maybe, maybe not. In the enterprise it's often better that servers and devices have no-nonsense, fixed network setups so that they cannot under any circumstances fail to receive addressing, DNS, and whatever other configuration info that they may need to function 24/7. If new addressing or other network configuration needs to be pushed out then it will often be done via scripting, not DHCP. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
fcm4711;538668 Wrote: > > Just to be clear. JVC DVD IR codes never worked on SB Radio and SB > Touch. I think since about SB2/3 Slim Devices developed their own > remote using IR codes which are assigned to Slim Devices Since Squeezebox version 1, actually. Check out the picture of the "New Soft-Touch Remote" from Dec 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20031213002824/http://slimdevices.com/ -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
I almost agree, but would state that in an enterprise DHCP is better even with mostly static machines because of the extra management bells and whistles it provides. Yes, even servers get DHCP. At the home with consumer grade equipment and less need to manage pools of IP's and changing infrastructure do what works for the issue at hand. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
pfarrell;538296 Wrote: > mpower9 wrote:[color=blue] > > In general, static IP addresses entered manually is a really bad idea. > That is how the Internet worked for the first years, and if you pick a > duplicate number, things break badly. That is why DHCP was invented. > > -- > Pat Farrell > http://www.pfarrell.com/ Cannot disagree more with this. Static IP and DHCP each have their place and using either incorrectly is a bad idea. DHCP is good when you have devices that frequently enter and leave the network (desktops in a large corporate facility, laptops in a home.) Static IP is best when you have a device that stays on the network and is considered a part of the infrastructure. (Servers, Non-portable home PCs, network appliance devices.) In the case of digital music players static IPs will give you a more reliable and easier to troubleshoot environment without the extra complexity of DHCP handshaking. Rule of thumb that I have been following with good success is: 1- Always use a wired connection if possible (unless using a wireless only device like an SBC.) I reserve wireless for those situations where placing an ethernet jack close to the player is truly not possible. 2- Always use static IP addresses. It is extremely helpful in troubleshooting problems if you know exactly what the IP address of the player is. 3- Keep your router and your WAP(s) as separate devices. The best location for a WAP is rarely the best spot for a router (and vice versa) and few devices are going to excel at both tasks. The idea that "everything can be wireless", "everything DHCP", and all running through a combo "wireless router/game console" type device is going to yield good results is just not realistic. -- upstatemike 6x SliMP3, 1x SB1, 2x SB2, 10x SB3, 2x SBR, 4x SBC, 1x Boom upstatemike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone compared Touch vs Bolder Mods
Yes. http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=79802.msg768829#msg768829 -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73100 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Just got my Touch. I have my Duet reciever and Touch synchronized and both connected to my Cambridge 840C DAC and can switch between them with the 840C remote. I can't hear any difference between them. Well, I didn't really expect to, since the 840C should be fairly jitter immune. Comparing the analog to digital will be a little trickier because of the different output levels and the fact that I have to get out of my chair to switch them on the pre-amp. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
John, you think it can be bypassed? -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
mherger;538352 Wrote: > > Are you seeing a delay when using the Touch UI (with your fingers) or > the remote control? Hitting +/- on the screen or dragging the volume > indicator? Michael, I've plowed through the code today, and made some good progress on the volume slow issue. It seems it might be a dance between reliability (not overshooting) and responsiveness. How can I go about making this a parameter somewhere so that I don't need to reset this with every FlashROM update? Solution (for me). These changes make it almost EXACTLY the same as my SB3's (~ 5 seconds from 0 -> 100 volume). This also speeds up the menu responsiveness considerably: in /usr/share/jive/jive/ui/IRMenuAcel.lua Change: INITIAL_ITEM_CHANGE_PERIOD >From 350 to 200 (150 was just a tad-too jittery) Change the acceleration algorithm to this: > if self.itemChangeCycles == > self.cyclesBeforeAccelerationStarts then > self.itemChangePeriod = self.itemChangePeriod / > 2 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 80 then > scrollBy = 64 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 60 then > scrollBy = 32 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 50 then > scrollBy = 16 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 40 then > scrollBy = 8 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 30 then > scrollBy = 4 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 16 then > scrollBy = 2 > elseif self.itemChangeCycles > 6 then > self.itemChangePeriod = 0 -- full speed > end > Also, I keep bricking my machine when I've got a typo in my edits - any way to make THAT not happen!? I think I'm going to like this new Squeezebox. You don't know how much I hate Perl. :-) -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
struts;538663 Wrote: > Can anybody tell me what the analog output stage of the Touch looks > like? Particularly interested if anyone can point me to a picture of > the board or a schematic. Apologies if I've missed this. Its very simple. The DAC has a voltage out, so no I/V stage is needed. The output goes to a series resistor after which is a cap to ground (low pass filter) then a series cap (SMD electrolytic, not sure of the model) and on to the RCA jack. The only thing that bothers me is that electrolytic cap, it doesn't really need to be there. The voltage out from the DAC chip is already ground referenced. Without a polarizing voltage the electrolytic cap won't be working correctly. Unless its a non polar electrolytic. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Hi there Just to be clear. JVC DVD IR codes never worked on SB Radio and SB Touch. I think since about SB2/3 Slim Devices developed their own remote using IR codes which are assigned to Slim Devices and still supporting JVC DVD IR codes was 'free' on SB Classic, Transporter and SB Boom. However SB Radio and SB Touch use complete different hardware (with a dedicated micro controller handling IR and other stuff) so the 'old' JVC DVD IR codes were not implemented on these new devices anymore. Maybe this wiki entry helps: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RemoteIRCodes Felix -- fcm4711 Focus means saying "no". - Steve Jobs fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
maggior;538661 Wrote: > You could accomplish that by purchasing a SBR (the player part of the > duet) and controlling it with your Touch. With the Touch, you can > select a player to control just like the controller. > > This assumes that one day you'll be able to buy a seperate player one > day... Yes, but I want the improved transport electronics of the Touch as well. I could always buy another Touch to use as a controller, but this is starting to get expensive! -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Analog Output Stage
Can anybody tell me what the analog output stage of the Touch looks like? Particularly interested if anyone can point me to a picture of the board or a schematic. Apologies if I've missed this. -- struts struts's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77716 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Daverz;538658 Wrote: > > I do wish the Touch were more like the Duet, with the touch component > in the remote and the transport just a box like the Duet receiver. You could accomplish that by purchasing a SBR (the player part of the duet) and controlling it with your Touch. With the Touch, you can select a player to control just like the controller. This assumes that one day you'll be able to buy a seperate player one day... -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
My first couple weeks with the Duet were problematic. Problems with the server at the time didn't help. If I weren't somewhat stubborn, I probably would have given up. But it's been working smoothly now for 6 months or so. I do wish the Touch were more like the Duet, with the touch component in the remote and the transport just a box like the Duet receiver. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Muele;538626 Wrote: > The OP is obviously 0/10 and shouldn't be fed. > > Nonetheless, the replies are quite interesting and would provide good > information for a would-be customer. What better way to derail a troll than turning it into a productive discussion. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
snarlydwarf;538619 Wrote: > Not really. > > And you left out the Radio, which also uses much of the same code. > > 'SqueezeOS' is maturing. > > (Of course, it helps that the operating model of the Radio and Touch > are also simpler: there isn't a headless device they need to talk to... > there is no doubt some confusion when setting up SBR's whether you're > talking to the SBC or the SBR... The Touch and Radio don't have that > layer of confusion to them.) I left the radio out only because I don't own one and can't comment on it based on first hand use; I only know what's been said about it here. What you say makes sense. Your comment on "SqueezeOS is maturing" is what I was driving at: Duet maturing = SqueezeOS maturing. Touch uses SqueezeOS, therefor Touch benefits from Duet maturity. Good, I'm not nuts :-). Seeing comments like "the duet has nothing to do with the Touch" were making me wonder if I understood the architecture correctly. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
sckramer;538212 Wrote: > those vu meters (or all the graphics) seem a little challenged on their > own... is there room to optimize the graphics layer as we go, is that > the plan :) ? They do look challenged, don't they? The meters are using minimal CPU resources so that they don't break something else. No idea what/if there's a plan to further optimize graphics. I think Logitech is just thankful that the product could be brought to market at this point. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hard drive on net?
Hey, it works! Even on my Mac. Thanks! -- MadCityGeoff MadCityGeoff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77709 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Alll this may have been known about "for years" by certain ppl, but the JVC vs "proper" remote code thing has been a complete revelation to me (SB user since SB3). I'm not in any way an OFA remote fan-boy, but the fact that that their supoort dept has offered several times (to me anyway) to create a code for any device that they don't have in their database by sending in a learned-code or actual device remote control with an upgraded remote in return, suggests to me that they *are* willing to add new devices to their database. Then contrast this with SD/Logitech not documenting the proper codes in user-readable way e.g. manual or wiki, then silently pulling the JVC code support from newer devices, and then just happening to have their own universal remote offering - it all does tend to be rather irksome. :( -- mr-b mr-b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
wimpf;538324 Wrote: > Hi > > > and after reboot check with: > ifconfig && lsmod > > You can see there is no more wlan0 interface up and also no loaded > modules. > > Greetings, > wimpf Most of the drivers on the Touch are compiled into the kernel, not loaded at runtime so they don't show up in the lsmod list. Unfortunately the wlan0 interface not being seen does not guarantee that the hardware is turned off. The hardware can still be on even if the kernel has not setup an interface data structure for it. Its probably not transmitting, but there is no guarantee. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
I'm having a similar problem with my URC MX-950 in that it controls my SB1 but not my Touch. I had to manually learn the codes from my Touch remote but even with that process not all buttons work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- paltomare paltomare's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2062 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
Mnyb;538539 Wrote: > should it not be rcS.local file ? Yes, typo on my part. Sometimes the fingers just do their own thing! John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
The OP is obviously 0/10 and shouldn't be fed. Nonetheless, the replies are quite interesting and would provide good information for a would-be customer. -- Muele BR Mogens 2 Radios (1 battery), 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad (Yes I know most phones have more cpu-power these days, but it gets the job done). Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
DigitalMitch;538401 Wrote: > Accepting that, I'm on the path of trying to optimise but I am > struggling to understand/isolate issues which are library size related > and others which could be settings/setup/bugs. > > I understand your 3 examples are clearly directly based on library > size, I have several others which I think should be independent:- > > music stream is interuppted or stuttering Figuring out what is going on with the stuttering is ongoing. Is it happening with FLAC files? A number of people have gotten around the problem by re-encoding using level -0 compression. If scanning is still going on when trying to play music all bets are off. In addition any animated visualizers can take up CPU time (spectrum analyzer, VU meters, picture viewer). When the server is running the processor has to handle both the server side and the player side so anything else going on can cause problems. If you have the drive shared try unsharing it, samba takes up some memory and cycles. > can't connect to mySB for MyApps or App Gallery whilst playing from > tinySC That one I don't have a solution for. It works fine for me. There are log files on the Touch which are frequently useful in debugging this sort of thing. You have to ssh into the Touch and then you can read the log files. If there are errors making connections you might find pertinent info in the logs. > tinySC doesn't scrobble to last.fm I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with large libraries, etc. I don't do scrobbling so I've never tried it. > I suspect that the former may be incurred by outstanding scan > issues/background processes caused by a 'bad' scan/remount which may > have been caused by library size. > > Is there any reason library size should affect the other two issues. > > In terms of large, does non-music on the USB have any impact? > (discovering files seems to go to 60,000 which I guess includes all > non-music) I don't think so. At one point I connected a drive which had 2 million files, most of which were NOT audio files. There was about 10gigs of audio files in various locations on the disk. It handled it perfectly, found the audio files and ignored the rest. > Also, is large defined purely by number of files or does type of file > and length of track (i.e. size of file) also impact? I THINK its probably number of songs not size of file thats an issue. I have a disk which has about 100 songs on it but each "song" is 2 gig in size (they are raw concert recordings), this scans very quickly. Just a few thoughts on scanning in general, which you probably already know but here goes anyway. The scan stores data in the .Squeezebox dir on the disk. If there is an existing one from an external server or if there is a partial one from a scan which did not complete, its a good idea to delete it before starting the scan. I've seen the scanner do weird things when it couldn't correctly read the database. Turn off sharing, this leaves a little more memory which might help. Don't plug in an SD card. Don't do anything else while scanning, don't touch the screen, don't display pictures, nothing. The sequence I have found that gives the best chance of success is to disconnect the drive, unplug the power on the Touch. Plug the drive into another computer and delete .Squeezebox directory. Plug power into the Touch, let it sit for a couple minutes so all startup and initialization precesses have finished. Plug in the drive. When it comes up with the message about using the eject button go ahead and select the item for viewing the scan progress. After this don't touch the Touch until its done or you are really sure its hung. When done eject the drive, unplug drive, unplug power. Plug in power, wait a couple minutes, plug in drive, wait for (hopefully much shorter) rescan. At this point you should be good to go for playing music. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
maggior;538596 Wrote: > > Fast foward to today and the Duet is a much better and stable product. > In my mind, part of the success of the Touch is due the stability and > maturity that the Duet has attained. Am I out in left field again? Not really. And you left out the Radio, which also uses much of the same code. 'SqueezeOS' is maturing. (Of course, it helps that the operating model of the Radio and Touch are also simpler: there isn't a headless device they need to talk to... there is no doubt some confusion when setting up SBR's whether you're talking to the SBC or the SBR... The Touch and Radio don't have that layer of confusion to them.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
putte_xvi;538595 Wrote: > Does this mean that it's no longer possible to customize IR codes on the > server? > > My Boom to accept commands from my Philips stereo remote thanks to a > custom IR/philips.ir. Has this capability been removed with the Radio > and Touch? Definitely you can't customize on the server -- Touch does not send any raw IR codes to the server AFAICT. They're all interpreted locally. And there are no old-style ".ir" files on Touch, so you can't tweak it on the player side with the old technique, either. Whether it can be done at all is a good question for Felix. I tried editing the SqueezePlay IR config on Touch (http:/ name="Webslimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=536748&postcount=11) to make it recognize JVC DVD codes (the SqueezePlay Lua hex representations of Squeezebox codes is the same as the old Perl Squeezebox Server hex representation, so I hoped I could just drop in the JVC hex codes), but had no luck. I fear that the IR circuitry on Touch is either unable to recognise some non-Squeezebox IR codes, or has been programmed not to send non-Squeezebox codes to SqueezeOS & the Lua SqueezePlay user interface app running on Touch. Not sending those codes to SqueezePlay could be a smart move -- Touch should be more responsive if SqueezePlay didn't have to consider "other" IR codes. But I don't know any way to make Touch recognise non-Squeezebox IR codes. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
psp;538587 Wrote: > Out of the box, I spent an evening getting the Touch set up with my > network (45 mins) and scanning my music (from iTunes, the Touch was > still scanning when I went to bed). > > Last night was my first opportunity to listen, and based on the first 3 > solid hours I am over the moon with the sound quality of the Touch. > > Since this is my first post, a short description of my system and > goals: > Speakers: Linkwitz Orions, soon to be Orion+ (add a second rear-firing > tweeter) > Amps: Aspen LifeForce 55 on tweeters (modified for 25w to the > tweeters) and midrange, four channels of Aspen AKSA 100 N+ on the > woofers. > Preamp: Aspen GK-1, significantly tweaked > Sources: Denon DVD-1930CI (nothing special) driving an Audiosector > SPDIF DAC > Cables and ICs are DIY > > My goal is to hear music that is as close as possible to a live > unamplified performance (in my room, keeping my audio spending in > balance with other family priorities). When I listen, it's "does this > sound real, is it music, do I keep putting my book down because the > music is so extremely good?". > > Overall, I've been very happy with the music this system makes in my > home. It's obvious that the weak spot in my system has been on the > front end, and I have never taken the time to audition a really first > rate CD player or DAC (although the Audiosector DAC is well-regarded, I > think). Certainly, I can listen to well-recorded CDs and be very, very > happy (e.g., I don't feel that there has been some defined problem to > fix). > > So, last night listening to the Touch (line output straight into the > preamp, Vanska playing Beethoven's 4th Symphony on BIS, streamed from > my iMac G4) I found the music to be a bit more spare, more clear (veils > removed!!), more bass (good solid, defined bass), highs extended and > without harshness, much more present (not as present as vinyl, but a > big step in that direction), and overall much more enjoyable. > > Next, I'll listen to a lot more music. I'll post again here if my > impressions change. > > The Touch appears to be by far the best $300 I've ever spent on my > system. > > Peter try your DAC with the touch coax spdif... I've been comparing my DAC output to the touch analog out & the touch is not as good, it's slightly greyer & smaller,flatter soundstage-- still i'm going to spend more time comparing-- but the touch digital out is really good compared to the sb3 -- sckramer Sb touch -- PS Audio DL3 (Cullen level 3) -- PS Audio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) -- energy veritas 2.3i -- Martin Logan descent psaudio ac3 power cables -- psaudio duet -- cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable -- audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch is linux?
erland;538588 Wrote: > Really, where does it say that ? > > As far as I know you are only obligated to give the source to anyone > that you have given/sold the binaries to. Of course, you can't forbid > them to redistribute it to someone else but if you haven't got the > binaries no one is forced to give you the source even if you request > it, at least that's how I've understood it. With GPL 2 you have to provide source to "any third party" if you have chosen to give a written offer for source code rather than distributing source with your binaries. With version 3 you are only required to offer it to those who possess the binaries, as you say, but they could get those binaries from other people. So if you only distribute binaries to one person, who then gives it to other people, who in turn give it to a thousand others, your offer to provide source applies to all of them. For lengthy explanations of this issue and others, see this SFLC guide: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/compliance-guide.html -- putte_xvi putte_xvi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77579 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch doesn't seem to want to go into standby
Well the same thing has happened to me today. It has worked fine for 2 days but today when I got home I found we had suffered a brief power cut too and interestingly my SB touch was on and would not turn off by pressing the soft power button. After a few mins of fiddling I did a factory reset and everything was fine again for a I'd say 30mins max! I setup my personal settings again and by the time I had got to the end of it, it would no longer turn off again. Rather frustrated with it at the moment to be honest! -- Adam608 Adam608's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37583 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77680 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch doesn't seem to want to go into standby
I ran a "factory reset" and everything is now working perfectly again. Took me around 5 mins to change the settings to how I want, but that's not that hard. It re-scanned my music collection in under 10mins, so I assume it was just doing a sanity check. The idea of being able to save settings on say a USB drive does sound like a good future option. -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77680 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
mr-b;538576 Wrote: > This is a real pain since now at least one quite popular brand of > universal remotes that used to work with SB kit now no longer does so. > > What's most frustrating is that I don't think anyone ever knew (from > the forum posts I've seen anyway) that the "proper" codes weren't the > JVC DVD ones. Otherwise it would have been possible to get the > manufacturer to change the codes and incorporate them in all new > remotes. :-( One For All has had *years* to get this right. The Slim Devices / Squeezebox codes have been well documented for 'a long time' (http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/VpªK}ËÝ1ëk/server/IR/Slim_Devices_Remote.ir?view=log). And the difference has been discussed on these forums 'for years' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=10580). Nothing has stopped OFA from adding the proper codes. If your One For All remote is JP1-compatible, see 'this thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63757) for more info and a Remote Master file for teaching your OFA the proper Squeezebox codes. I've programmed three cheap ($15 USD) OFA remotes with the proper Squeezebox codes (plus discrete power on/off) and they work fine. I think it's unfortunate that Logitech doesn't support JVC codes on Touch (and Radio), and also unfortunate that the Touch marketing has glossed over some SB3 features that Touch does not yet have (or never will have). But you should blame One For All for not giving you proper Squeezebox codes, not Logitech. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
I have now have a Touch, the CSO Resound recording of the Bruckner 7th Symphony (conducted by Haitink) as a 16/44.1 CD and as a 24/88.2 download from HDtracks. I guess it's time to learn what difference(s) I can discern. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
iPhone;538523 Wrote: > Second, as others have already pointed out, the Touch basically has > nothing in common with the Duet. The Touch can more closely be related > to the SB3 IE it is the SB4, the SB3s replacement. Yes it is a smart > device where the SB3 was a dumb device, but the Touch in no way is > trying to do what a Duet does or is it the replacement for the Duet. > Perhaps somebody could clear this up. Both the Duet, specifically the controller, and the Touch are based on SqueezeOS. The controller and Touch share a good bit of functionality - playback, ability to control any other player, change player settings, etc. I would surmise that this means there is a significant amount of common code between the two devices. Am I out in left field with this? Calling the Duet a "disaster" is extreme, but it definitly had some growing pains that had nothing to do with network configuration. The initial setup didn't handle a server that had security enabled well and there was a bug where the controller would lockup and reboot itself when navigating the music library. Fast foward to today and the Duet is a much better and stable product. In my mind, part of the success of the Touch is due the stability and maturity that the Duet has attained. Am I out in left field again? -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Does this mean that it's no longer possible to customize IR codes on the server? My Boom to accept commands from my Philips stereo remote thanks to a custom IR/philips.ir. Has this capability been removed with the Radio and Touch? -- putte_xvi putte_xvi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34778 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
mortslim;538516 Wrote: > The point of the prior post can be illustrated by analogy to the reason > O.J. Simpson is currently incarcerated. He claimed at his trial that > he was attempting to retrieve his own property when he invaded a hotel > room in Las Vegas and grabbed property by force and threat. However > the court made clear that that was no defense to the crime of robbery. > You can still be guilty of robbery even when you are taking your own > property when it is in someone elses possession and you break and > enter their room and breach the peace. > > So, by the same token in the matter of the recordings on the SACD, no > one, not the orchestras, nor HDTracks, nor its studio, nor Playback > Designs has a right to bypass the Sony encryption controls on the SACD > chipset in order to retrieve these recordings. That analogy is just soo wrong. The intellectual copyright holder has a priori rights and cannot be denied complete freedom of access to their own copyright material, regardless of the mechanical storage medium it may happen to reside on at a point in time... unless they have EXPLICITLY waived their inalienable legal right to do so via a legally-binding contract. The medium can never enforce supremacy over the message. Anyway, this is way off-topic. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hard drive on net?
after turning on sharing Settings/Advanced/USB&SD Storage/Sahring you can see the drive (on Windows XP) in File Explorer under: My Network Places\Entire Network\Microsoft Windows Network\Workgroup\[name of Touch] the path may vary depending on your network. mine is wired but don't think that should make a difference -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77709 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
I have exactly the same issue. I can't find anywhere to enter the username/password. -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Out of the box, I spent an evening getting the Touch set up with my network (45 mins) and scanning my music (from iTunes, the Touch was still scanning when I went to bed). Last night was my first opportunity to listen, and based on the first 3 solid hours I am over the moon with the sound quality of the Touch. Since this is my first post, a short description of my system and goals: Speakers: Linkwitz Orions, soon to be Orion+ (add a second rear-firing tweeter) Amps: Aspen LifeForce 55 on tweeters (modified for 25w to the tweeters) and midrange, four channels of Aspen AKSA 100 N+ on the woofers. Preamp: Aspen GK-1, significantly tweaked Sources: Denon DVD-1930CI (nothing special) driving an Audiosector SPDIF DAC Cables and ICs are DIY My goal is to hear music that is as close as possible to a live unamplified performance (in my room, keeping my audio spending in balance with other family priorities). When I listen, it's "does this sound real, is it music, do I keep putting my book down because the music is so extremely good?". Overall, I've been very happy with the music this system makes in my home. It's obvious that the weak spot in my system has been on the front end, and I have never taken the time to audition a really first rate CD player or DAC (although the Audiosector DAC is well-regarded, I think). Certainly, I can listen to well-recorded CDs and be very, very happy (e.g., I don't feel that there has been some defined problem to fix). So, last night listening to the Touch (line output straight into the preamp, Vanska playing Beethoven's 4th Symphony on BIS, streamed from my iMac G4) I found the music to be a bit more spare, more clear (veils removed!!), more bass (good solid, defined bass), highs extended and without harshness, much more present (not as present as vinyl, but a big step in that direction), and overall much more enjoyable. Next, I'll listen to a lot more music. I'll post again here if my impressions change. The Touch appears to be by far the best $300 I've ever spent on my system. Peter -- psp psp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch is linux?
servies;538444 Wrote: > Not quite right, when you distribute the binaries compiled from the > code, everybody can ask for the code/modifications and use that again. > How do you think CentOS creates its distribution. It's an exact copy of > Red Hat Enterprise, recompiled from the sources. > Really, where does it say that ? As far as I know you are only obligated to give the source to anyone that you have given/sold the binaries to. Of course, you can't forbid them to redistribute it to someone else but if you haven't got the binaries no one is forced to give you the source even if you request it, at least that's how I've understood it. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77579 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hard drive on net?
Havent tried myself yet but there is a sharing setting to turn on So it would not just happen because you lugged in th drive. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77709 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hard drive on net?
Should the hard drive that I've attached to my Touch be visible on my wifi network? If so, I'm not seeing it. -- MadCityGeoff MadCityGeoff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77709 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch tagging issues
Thanks, Mitch. It does seem like the Touch has some difficulties with ALAC files. I can work around the bugs so far. However, the fact that the Touch can play some files but not others based on tagging seems like a fairly major issue. -- MadCityGeoff MadCityGeoff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77519 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch is linux?
> if you want to tightly integrate your already existing code with > something released under GPL you will have to release the source for > your code also under GPL even though it was originally released under > some other license. That's only true if you want to distribute it to other people, because the GPL is a hack on the copyright laws. You don't normally have the right to make a copy of code and give it to someone else, but the GPL grants you that additional permission if you follow its restrictions. That's why the GPL is binding, because only accepting the license gives you the right to distribute GPL code. Internally, you can do anything you like with GPL products. You can link it directly into Windows if you want. The GPL only kicks in when you give your code to someone else. If your distributed product contains GPL code, then ALL the code with the product typically needs to be under the GPL as well. As long as you're not giving it to anyone else, the GPL doesn't apply. And if code you distribute doesn't contain any pieces of GPL code, then it also doesn't apply. You're free to put whatever license you want on your own code, as long as you're not shipping GPL code as part of it. And you only have to give your code to people that you actually give your binaries to, not any random Joe Schmoe off the street. If you can trust your customers not to distribute something further, you can still keep GPL code mostly secret. In other words, it's only "viral" if you're depending on GPL code to make some final product. Presumably, you're using the GPLed code because it would be too expensive to either write it yourself or pay for a commercial equivalent, and you pay for your use of that code by contributing your own to the GPL universe. If you don't want to do that, then don't distribute GPL code as part of your product, and you avoid the problem completely. It is, in my opinion, an extremely fair license, but if you think the price of distributing it is too high, you can use BSD code, or pay money for a commercial equivalent instead. -- Malor Malor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77579 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Ah, so I'm guessing you mean that the SB3 (etc.) remote only ever used a non-JVC code? This is a real pain since now at least one quite popular brand of universal remotes that used to work with SB kit now no longer does so. What's most frustrating is that I don't think anyone ever knew (from the forum posts I've seen anyway) that the "proper" codes weren't the JVC DVD ones. Otherwise it would have been possible to get the manufacturer to change the codes and incorporate them in all new remotes. :-( -- mr-b mr-b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
iPhone;538523 Wrote: > Ninety-five precent of all issues with the Duet can be traced back to an > improperly setup WiFi Network or one that has interference or is > performing poorly. This is in no way Logitech's fault or the Duet's for > that matter. I agree. I bought my Duet more than a year ago, that day I got home at about 10 PM and by 2 AM the thing wasn't working. I decided that this was maybe due to the fact that I had a couple of beers while configuring the thing so I gave it a try the next morning. By noon nothing is working and I'm cursing and willing to return the thing because I though the WiFi network couldn't be the cause. After some troubleshooting on the network side I noticed that the problem was that my old Linksys Travel Router crashed when the Duet tried to connect. Linksys provided no help and no firmware updates for this box so I changed to an Apple Airport Express (similar form and factor than the Linksys) and voila! Since this is in my living room me, my family and our guests have enjoyed the system a LOT! Can't wait to get a Touch to replace my Linux+SqueezePlay+DAC arrangement in my listening room. -- Sounder Sounder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36170 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Is he a Sonos employee? ;) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
notec;538465 Wrote: > After the disaster known as the Squeezebox Duet why would anyone get a > Touch? To go thru the same troubles all over again? No thanks to the > power of ten 0/10 Boring Bye. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
Hiding your SSID is a COMPLETE waste of time and only encourages problems. It is one of my "25 things NOT to do" when using SB or other wi-fi products. Please ignore at your own peril... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
With local pushes, it goes from the screen, and Lua interprets it locally, sending the result to the server for processing. With the remote, the hardware takes in the IR code, sends it to the server for processing, which sends the result back to the Touch for display updates? Essentially a 2nd wireless hop back to the touch before the display gets updated? OK, I'll take it to the SqueezeOS area now.. :-) -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
iPhone;538523 Wrote: > Is the Duet WiFi Network sensitive, in my opinion it is. Ninety-five > precent of all issues with the Duet can be traced back to an improperly > setup WiFi Network or one that has interference or is performing poorly. > This is in no way Logitech's fault or the Duet's for that matter. It is > directly related to the fact that the complaining owner will not take > the time or do what is necessary to resolve his own WiFi issue which is > at the root of the problem. Just because a laptop works OK on a WiFi > network doesn't mean that network is healthy and properly setup. > Downloading Email and Webpages on a bad WiFi Network will still work > without showing major problems, attempting to stream real time audio is > a completely different story. > > > You sir are nothing but a Troll Exactly, You have to take your time to learn something sometimes, for example how does my network really work is that so hard to do ? Re networking some users also cheap out on very bad "broadband" deals with very low speeds and a lot of throttling etc. So the ISP is crap but they still blame the Squeezebox when they get no internet radio. If you want to use internet get a good ISP. Sadly he is good Troll, he provoked 9 post's from a vague negative and clueless post ? But it has o be met with some kind of response, hence sometimes you have to go with it My duet has also worked for 2 years now initial setup was finicky for me, it have had it's period but always been usable and up for it when it's time for some music. It has some design limitations, but it's made to price piont so it's ok. But now I'm back to be impressed by my Touch :) "And Now the Touch " Read the post carefully these are not you average users fiddling with it. Some like to plays 24/96 hirez with it. Some like to use the limited "Tiny" server with an 5 track collections ? Or connect networks shares and whatnot's ? Demanding users with vocal opinions that are not Easy to please. So it's not many average Joe's pleading for help with basic things that's not fits in with 95% category of flawed local network or internet conection. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
I'll post my experience here just in case others are curious and don't
want to experience my pain. :-) I'm sure there's an easier way.
The files you want to modify are on the Touch itself, not the server.
This is new for a SB3 hacker like myself. You need to enable
SSH/Remote login from the UI.
>From there, I've found the Touch applets are located in:
/usr/share/jive/applets/
I've modified the
/usr/share/jive/applets/NowPlaying/NowPlayingApplet.lua with this:
local repeatModes = {
mode0 = 'repeatOff',
-- mode1 = 'repeatSong',
-- mode2 = 'repeatPlaylist',
}
This changes the UI - the button won't respond to a touch graphically,
but it still changes the repeat mode itself.
What you need to do is comment out the push action (-- is a comment
mark in Lua - egad, not ANOTHER language to learn! :-()
self.repeatButton = Button(Icon('repeatMode'),
function()
--Framework: pushAction("repeat_toggle")
return EVENT_CONSUME
end
)
This disables the button on the GUI, but keeps it working on the
remote. 1. Small. Victory. :-)
You also need to reboot between changes as far as I can tell. This
will make hacking rather tedious - any way to re-launch an Applet
without rebooting? I ended up hacking away on Squeezeplay since it's
almost instant reboot on my PC.
-Dan
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch is linux?
erland;538547 Wrote:
> Do you think there was a reason why Logitech selected to use BSD for the
> player software instead of the GPL license as they've always used on the
> server ?
No clue: for the owner, I think GPL is better (it means no one can take
the code, make it work on their own hardware and run off, giving nothing
in return). My guess is actually that they're being more generous for
whatever reason.
>
> I'm not really against GPL but I can understand why some
> people/companies tries to avoid it and I've also seen people that use
> GPL because they think it's more free than any other open source
> license.
I think the license doesn't really matter to the owner of the code:
Logitech can take their code and fork off a closed version. (Perhaps
somewhat tricky due to some major 3rd party contributors like kdf's
code that's in the core server... don't know if they require ownership
assignment or not.)
So from a corporate point of view, the choice between GPL and BSD
really does favor GPL... it makes it in some sense "less free" in that
-others- can't fork off a server and make it proprietary. (Stallman
would argue that it makes it "more free" because it guarantees that
derivatives would be free as well... and there is a point there.)
Now, there may be some concern over the linking: "we would LOVE to use
this library for our stuff, but we can't link it to our product". Ie,
they would choose BSD over GPL not to protect their own code, but to
allow linking to non-BSD/GPL libraries. (As I recall, it's okay to
have GPL link to BSD, or have BSD link to proprietary... but GPL can't
link to proprietary.)
But, I'm not a lawyer and it all starts hurting my brain since 'intent'
doesn't really matter in law at all the intent of even the original
Jive license stuff wasn't to make it impossible to look at without
tainting any trivial modifications... but that was the end result and
hence a big push for the license changes.
("Oh, you looked at our screensaver to write your own? Well now you
can't distribute your own!")
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
That seems rather a strange design decision. Is there any particular reason why, given that it used to work? Also why does the SB3 remote still control the Touch? Is it outputting two sets of IR codes? -- mr-b mr-b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
Thank-you wimpf i saved 3% memory by not loading the modules. I might not be much but Touch do not have that much memory. And since i pulled cable to it i wont be using wlan on it. I have wlan on SB3 Radio and Controller , so I'm not gone over to the aluminum foil hat crowd ;) Just wants to turn off unused stuff on the Touch. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch is linux?
servies;538444 Wrote: > > I never heard Red Hat or Suse complaining... or Logitech... > Do you think there was a reason why Logitech selected to use BSD for the player software instead of the GPL license as they've always used on the server ? I'm not really against GPL but I can understand why some people/companies tries to avoid it and I've also seen people that use GPL because they think it's more free than any other open source license. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77579 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Hi there The usage of JVC DVD IR codes is an ancient thing going back to the very first device, SLIMP3 from Slim Devices, when there wasn't a dedicated IR remote and a Sony remote (being able to use JVC DVD IR codes) was bundled with the device. Up until SB Boom the old JVC DVD IR codes were supported but for the most recent two devices SB Radio and SB Touch the old IR codes have not been implemented anymore. Sorry. Felix -- fcm4711 Focus means saying "no". - Steve Jobs fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any fix out there for missing album artwork?
iPhone;538529 Wrote: > Can we have some more information so we can narrow this down and try to > help you? Are you talking about the Touch when using SBS or TinySC? > What version of SBS and what firmware is the Touch running? Are you > looking at your iTunes library on the PC and actually in iTunes when > you say there is 60% more? > > It is completely possible that you asked iTunes to go out and find > missing artwork for iTunes. This does not mean that iTunes imbedded the > artwork into the music files. Depending on how your library that SBS > looks at is setup, a copy of the cover.jpg file might need to be moved > into the actual directory where that album is. > > Personally, I can't stand iTunes. It corrupts, picks the wrong cover > art or band, and is designed so anybody can use it which ends up making > it to weak or to come to the wrong decision. The best solution is to use > a tagging/cover art program to correctly tag and find cover art. Yes, when i compare the Squeezbox server(7.5.1) and The Touch to Itunes i seem to be missing 40% of the album artwork from my itunes library. I'm using a Mac laptop. I dont know how to copy the cover to the actual directory. Thanks -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77704 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
JohnSwenson;525936 Wrote: > There is nothing in the touch menus that will do that, but there is a > way to do it. You ssh into the touch and type the command: > > iwconfig wlan0 txpower off > > This shuts the radio off completely. Unfortunately it goes away when > you unplug the touch. To always have it turned off you need to edit one > of the config files so the command gets run at every boot. > > To do this, ssh into the touch then do: > > cd /etc/init.d > vi rc5.local > (press the 'i' key and then type:) > iwconfig wlan0 txpower off > (press the escape key, type:) > :wq (thats colon key, w key, q key) > > This creates the rc5.local file which will be run every time the touch > boots, the iwconfig line turns off the transmitter. > > This will stay in place until you load new firmware. > > That should do it. > > John S. should it not be rcS.local file ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Logitech Harmony range work fine. I've got the 525 model which you can get cheap and it's a big step up from One for ALL. I've just treated myself to an 8GB Ipod Touch and installed Ipeng. Now this is premier league quality ... nice -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
JJZolx;538378 Wrote: > I'm seeing it with the remote. I wouldn't call it a delay, really, as > the response is instantaneous, but it takes a long time to accelerate. > As near as I can time it, it takes a full seven seconds to go from 100% > to 50% using the remote. I'm getting about the same - when I saw 7 seconds, I was like, "No way, can't be that long", but yep. Timed it on the ol' iPhone - 7 seconds from 100% - 50%, but 8.2 to go from 50% to 0%. Acceleration really kicks in. Subjectively, it's about 1/2 the rate of the SB3's I have. -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any fix out there for missing album artwork?
on one of the missing album art songs, go into itunes, right click on track, go to properties, album art tab, and you'll likely see your itunes art there. Right click on the art, then immediately paste into the same box. Now the artwork is embedded in the tag. You can do this album at a time. When done, you'll have the album art embedded, then SbS can read it. As pointed out, itunes stores your art (when it finds it) in its own database, not in the file (or as a jpg in the file's subdirectory). So SbS doesn't see this. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77704 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any fix out there for missing album artwork?
gellie;538524 Wrote: > I seems to be missing 40-50% of what i see via Itunes library. Can we have some more information so we can narrow this down and try to help you? Are you talking about the Touch when using SBS or TinySC? What version of SBS and what firmware is the Touch running? Are you looking at your iTunes library on the PC and actually in iTunes when you say there is 60% more? It is completely possible that you asked iTunes to go out and find missing artwork for iTunes. This does not mean that iTunes imbedded the artwork into the music files. Depending on how your library that SBS looks at is setup, a copy of the cover.jpg file might need to be moved into the actual directory where that album is. Personally, I can't stand iTunes. It corrupts, picks the wrong cover art or band, and is designed so anybody can use it which ends up making it to weak or to come to the wrong decision. The best solution is to use a tagging/cover art program to correctly tag and find cover art. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77704 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Universal remote controls SB3 but not Touch
Hi I'm trying to get my universal remote (One For All URC 7556) to work with the Touch. It works fine with my SB3 (using the JVC DVD code 0623) but it seems to do absolutely nothing with the Touch. I found this rather odd since the SB3 and Touch remotes appear to be largely interchangeable i.e. the SB3 remote controls the Touch fine and vice versa (sans a few keys). WTF? -- mr-b mr-b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77705 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
Mnyb;538514 Wrote: > Squeezeboxserver is written in perl ? It sounded strange to me because I thought Perl was just a scripting language for Web pages. However 'Wikipedia says' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeezebox_Server), "The Squeezebox Server software is written in Perl, and will run on Linux, Microsoft Windows, Apple Macintosh, BSD platforms." -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Any fix out there for missing album artwork?
I seems to be missing 40-50% of what i see via Itunes library. -- gellie gellie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77704 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
notec;538465 Wrote: > After the disaster known as the Squeezebox Duet why would anyone get a > Touch? To go thru the same troubles all over again? First off your opening statement is completely false and untrue. The Duet was not a disaster. I have two of them and they have worked flawlessly for years. Is the Duet WiFi Network sensitive, in my opinion it is. Ninety-five precent of all issues with the Duet can be traced back to an improperly setup WiFi Network or one that has interference or is performing poorly. This is in no way Logitech's fault or the Duet's for that matter. It is directly related to the fact that the complaining owner will not take the time or do what is necessary to resolve his own WiFi issue which is at the root of the problem. Just because a laptop works OK on a WiFi network doesn't mean that network is healthy and properly setup. Downloading Email and Webpages on a bad WiFi Network will still work without showing major problems, attempting to stream real time audio is a completely different story. Second, as others have already pointed out, the Touch basically has nothing in common with the Duet. The Touch can more closely be related to the SB3 IE it is the SB4, the SB3s replacement. Yes it is a smart device where the SB3 was a dumb device, but the Touch in no way is trying to do what a Duet does or is it the replacement for the Duet. More importantly, I would be willing to bet that you don't own a Touch so you have no idea what you are talking about and more over are again making statements from no point in fact! You sir are nothing but a Troll since you obviously don't even own a Touch and have no way to make any comparisons much less objective factual statements. How about growing a brain and checking the Forum before you type. Are there any other posts comparing the Touch to the Duet? I will save you some time, there are not. The postings and feedback on the Touch are overwhelmingly positive! Is it perfect and will even do the dishes, it will not. Is it for everybody, again it is not. Is it a great addition to the Squeezebox line of products? It is and again the postings and feedback point this out! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
Touch is good release and a very good product ? it has some issues ofcourse. But works right out of the box for most users. This is a much better than the initial Duet debacle. Kudos to Logitech for getting closer the goal regarding smooth releases ( from customer perspective ) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
The point of the prior post can be illustrated by analogy to the reason O.J. Simpson is currently incarcerated. He claimed at his trial that he was attempting to retrieve his own property when he invaded a hotel room in Las Vegas and grabbed property by force and threat. However the court made clear that that was no defense to the crime of robbery. You can still be guilty of robbery even when you are taking your own property when it is in someone elses possession and you break and enter their room and breach the peace. So, by the same token in the matter of the recordings on the SACD, no one, not the orchestras, nor HDTracks, nor its studio, nor Playback Designs has a right to bypass the Sony encryption controls on the SACD chipset in order to retrieve these recordings. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
Squeezeboxserver is written in perl ? Squeezeplay is written in Lua (the software running the controller). ideally you want to look into both to track issues. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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If you look at the OP's past posts you see a trend of being pretty negative. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
notec;538465 Wrote: > After the disaster known as the Squeezebox Duet why would anyone get a > Touch? To go thru the same troubles all over again? No thanks to the > power of ten First, I have a Duet and it works fine. The initial software/firmware for the controller was a bit flaky but was fixed in subsequent versions. I haven't had any significant issues for quite some time. Second, the Touch's release was intentionally delayed to minimize those types of issues. I've had mine running in my system for 12 days now. Of course, no product ever made by any company is going to work perfectly for everyone. It is simply impossible for a computer products company to anticipate and test for every single possible variable in computers, operating systems & software installation, wireless routers and so on. If you look back through the forum archives, you'll find people who had difficulty with the earliest Squeezebox models. Those who wish to pretend there were no issues with the SB Classic and prior models are simply choosing to remain willfully ignorant. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch doesn't seem to want to go into standby
SJobson;538438 Wrote: > Mine wouldn't go into standby with the remote this morning - however, > that was shortly after a power cut and it wasn't connected to the > server, so I don't know if that's related. I think it's related. I had the same issue in my thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77523 about a missing clock. After a power interruption, it seems that the Touch needs to connect to the internet to get the clock going again. Otherwise in "Off" or "Stopped" all I got was the Now Playing screen. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77680 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
