[users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Keith N. McKenna]

Twayne wrote:

In news:hl9oj2$lp...@ger.gmane.org,
Keith N. McKenna  typed:

Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-02-12 5:12 AM, Linda L. Hull wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Keith R Bainbridge" 



Most people who prefer top-posting do so because they are too lazy to
spend a few extra seconds to properly format their replies.




I could also say that most people who bottom post mindlessly do not
snip either.


Many people don't trim their messages. I often forget myself because I 
don't trim until I've completed my response in order to not trim away 
something I might respond about but erroeously trimmed earlier.



... All they do is set to start at bottom and type away
thereby forceing people to scroll through sometime pages of stuff


I guess I object to the "mindless" comment which is totally uncalled for 
and of no use to the thread.
  And No, all it takes is a CTRL-END to jump to the bottom with the 
cursor. Often there is no need to even think about scrolling with the 
mouse. Other times I'll not trim so that I can't be accused of having 
trimmed out something a responder might think is a lot more relevant 
than I did. I also won't trim a particularly good post if it contains an 
especially useful passage about how to do something; it prevents people 
from having to recall already read and no longer visible messages to get 
at the original posting of the information. So I leave that part in tact 
and trim around it.
  But the majority of the time trimming is best whenever the length of 
the post exceeds more than one or two screens in length.


Personally I often don't care if the post was trimmed or not. It's only 
two keys to get to the top or bottom, and PageUp PageDown are useful too 
sometimes.  If the entire post has been left in tact; no problem either. 
And no need to scroll thru it. Unless I wish to.
  If, however, a post has never been trimmed and there are responses 
from multiple people there as denoted by the >, >>, >>>, , (and also 
colors on my screen)  and so on, as I scroll along in those cases, I 
might provide responses to several of those people.  It's obvious from 
the indents who is being responded to, so it is one opportunity to 
comment on several stages of the discussion as it developed.


Much ado about nothing here, really. I say if the posting etiquette is 
that important to a person, they should go look for a complaint group 
with requiremetns that fit their own needs.  It's the complainer needs 
to change, not the already established groups and guidelines.


HTH,

Twayne


Twayne
 Than we are even as I do not care for being sweepingly 
characterized as to lazy to properly format my replies. That also is 
totally uncalled for and has no use to the thread. I suspect we have 
both seen more than our share of extreme devotion to a cause that it has 
somewhat jaundiced our reactions and use of language.
 As I stated in my original post what one should do is review the 
guidelines for the particular group and adapt your style to conform. If 
you are not willing to do that then you really shouldn't be posting in 
that group at all.
My personal preference is not yours and that is going to remain so. 
In reality it matters not one wit. What both should and I believe both 
of us has tried to do is comply to the best of our abilities to the 
quidelines for this group and to argue intelligently and without 
purposeful rancour.


Keith N. McKenna (not the op)


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[users] Re: Strange toolbar icons in OpenOffice 3.2

[John King]

Bob Williams wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've just upgraded my OpenOffice.org to 3.2, which I use on openSUSE 11.2
> running KDE 4.3.5.
> 
> The toolbar icons all have a strange horizontal striped background, which
> disappears when you mouse over the icon, though this only works for the
> active or enabled icons. This makes me think it's a display problem, so
> may be KDE 4.3.5 related?
> 
> Other details about my setup are in my sig., below
> 
> Has anyone else seen this?
> 
> Bob

I haven't seen this specific one, but have experienced other effects since 
upgrading to 3.2 on kde 4.3.5 - distorted icons and a too narrow input bar in 
calc in particular.  However, I managed to sort it by changing my theme and 
colours in the kde system settings, logging off and on, and then changing them 
back again to oxygen.  After that they looked fine.
-- 


John

johnmking...@yahoo.co.uk

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[users] Draw - save as jpg

[James]

I tried to export as jpg and I checked automatically select file extension.
I typed 'logo' and it saved "logo.jpg.jpg .jpeg .jfif .jif .jpe".
Can anyone confirm?

Re: [users] Re: Re: clip art

[Programmer In Training]

On 02/15/10 11:03, Maurice Batey wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:19:39 -0600, Programmer In Training wrote:
> 
>> I'm adding it just fine on my nearly 7 year old box...
> 
>   Where do the contents of the 375MB download actually finish up?!

In the folder you they were extracted into. I did move them into
~/.openoffice.org/ before adding them. They don't get moved anywhere.
You are essentially adding a new gallery with it's own unique path.


>   (Here, nothing seemed to have been added to ~/.ooo3/gallery.)
> 
> Roughly how long did the install take on your m/c?
> 

5-10 minutes, maybe a bit longer. I was actually quite surprised at how
quick it was (and how quick 3.1.1 was responding in general, granted I'm
comparing this between a machine with less then 750MB of RAM running XP
Pro SP3) and the fact it remained responsive.

Perhaps it's an issue of free space while the files are being indexed?

-- 
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Re: [users] Re: OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?

[David B Teague]

On 2/15/2010 9:18 PM, Twayne wrote:


Look back in time in the posts; there have been some comments on it 
already. I like it but don't feel like repeating myself over and over.


Twayne



I don't have the disk space to keep old posts. You could have provided a 
link to your post in the archive in the number of words you used here.


--David


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Re: [users] OO 2.4 WRITER DEBIAN LENNY

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Sí, funciona, yo lo usaba así.  Y el OpenOffice 3 levanta más rápido que el
2.  Te lo digo yo que en ese momento tenía una máquina algo lenta, se notaba
la diferencia.


Saludos y no hay de qué
Sylvia



2010/2/15 Raul Claro

> Gracias, Sylvia, por tu interés  y consejos. La verdad es que, por
> casualidad, encontré la solución: no había instalado openoffice.org-gnome;
> eso estaba causando el problema de los acentos. Ahora todo eso debiera andar
> bien.
>
> Los otros problemas que anoto... es lo que suele pasar con las
> actualizaciones, se gana y se pierde. Yo por mí prefiero ir más lento. Con
> mi versión 2 tengo todo lo que necesito. Temo que al pasarme a 3 me voy a
> encontrar de nuevo con desagradables sorpresas.  Y no sé si esa versión 3,
> que no está en la distribución Debian-Lenny, que uso (stable), va a
> funcionar.
>
> Muchas gracias de todos modos. Guardaré tu meil para futuro uso, cuando me
> decida al cambio.
>
> Saludos
>
> Raúl
>
>
>
>
> Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
>
>> Raúl, te sugeriría que desinstalaras esa que tenés e instales la nueva
>> versión descargándola directamente del sitio de OpenOffice.  Ya es la
>> 3.2, fijate, vas a quedar muy atrasado si no.
>> Para instalarla luego vas a root, extraés los archivos del paquete
>> hacia una carpeta cualqiuera  (de faćil acceso)  y ponés en la consola
>>dpkg -i paquete1 de openoffice
>> O bien
>>dpkg -install paquete1 de opneoffice
>> Y así hasta terminar con todos los paquetes de la carpeta.  Cuando
>> hayas terminado salí de root y entrá en un usuario común para ver como
>> marcha el programa.  Si todo sale bien, podés volver a root y tirar
>> los archivos que descargaste del sitio.
>>
>>
>> Saludos y Espero que te haya servido de ayuda
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/2/14 Raul Claro:
>>
>>
>>>  Hello, I am new on this list.
>>>  I have been using OO for ages now and I am very pleased with i on the
>>> whole.  More than anything, with the former version, OO 2.1, which went
>>> with
>>> Etch in Linux-Debian. It was wonderful, fast, and had a lot of useful
>>> characteristics.
>>>
>>>  I  upgraded Debian to Lenny (I had to, because of Flash) and it was not
>>> possible (though I tried) to keep OpenOffice 2.1.  Now I have the version
>>> 2.4 and find the following irritating changes:
>>>
>>> (1) The worst of them is that the Spanish keyboard very easily stops
>>> writing
>>> the Spanish accent (á, é) and the Spanish ñ, for no apparent reason. This
>>> can be fixed by pressing Format and then Sign, just that. I go back to
>>> the
>>> text and the accents are there again. But two minutes later I must repeat
>>> the whole procedure, because they have disappeared again. A real
>>> nuisance.
>>> WHY, or WHEN precisely they dissapear, I haven't found out yet.
>>>
>>> (2)  And then it is a pity, that the icon von "Save" does not fade
>>> anymore
>>> when a file has been already saved. That was a useful, lovely feature of
>>> OO
>>> 2.1.  Is is gone now, it stays unchanged when you save the file, so you
>>> never know any more whether the file needs saving again or not.
>>>
>>> (3)  Another useful item was the fact, that when a file was saved and
>>> closed, and then reopened, OO opened the file AT THE SAME PAGE where it
>>> was
>>> closed before. Now it is opened always at the beginning, which means that
>>> I
>>> have to look up the place I left the file every time anew.
>>>
>>> I would be very grateful for help here. There doesn't seem to be a
>>> Spanish
>>> mailing-list (I couldn't find one on the site), so I write to this one.
>>>
>>> Raúl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[users] OT Re: Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Twayne]

In news:4b799d97.2010...@softhome.net,
Troll/Idiot  typed:

On 15-Feb-10 13:04, Paul wrote:

[snip]
  >  I do respect the views of those who disagree with that last
point and am willing to continue the>  discussion if they wish.


Please do so on the discuss list then - this topic is not suitable
for the users list.

/paul

Users/Discuss moderator



It's bad enough having people who consider personal invective an
acceptable tool of discussion on this list; I'm not going to be their
target on another!

Troll/Idiot
Invective is ineffective.


Then you don't really have the "respect the views of those who disagree" in 
mind after all, because this entire thread has been off topic and doesn't 
belong here. All have continued to post off topic without indicating they 
were doing so, thereby disrespecting the guidelines. If you can't go to 
where you would be ON topic, then you should just shut up.


Twayne 




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[users] Re: OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?

[Twayne]

In news:4b7869ac.5020...@verizon.net,
David B Teague  typed:

I understand that OOo 3.2 is available.

Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and
that it runs as well as 3.1?  Any problems? One sentence would do.
Even a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK.

I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though
NEVER from OO.o.

David Teague
Flames to /dev/null, please.


Look back in time in the posts; there have been some comments on it already. 
I like it but don't feel like repeating myself over and over.


Twayne



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[users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Twayne]

In news:hl9oj2$lp...@ger.gmane.org,
Keith N. McKenna  typed:

Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-02-12 5:12 AM, Linda L. Hull wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Keith R Bainbridge" 



Most people who prefer top-posting do so because they are too lazy to
spend a few extra seconds to properly format their replies.

Outlook apparently still requires a plugin to quote only selected
text in replies/forwards, but it can do it.


I could also say that most people who bottom post mindlessly do not
snip either.


Many people don't trim their messages. I often forget myself because I don't 
trim until I've completed my response in order to not trim away something I 
might respond about but erroeously trimmed earlier.



... All they do is set to start at bottom and type away
thereby forceing people to scroll through sometime pages of stuff


I guess I object to the "mindless" comment which is totally uncalled for and 
of no use to the thread.
  And No, all it takes is a CTRL-END to jump to the bottom with the cursor. 
Often there is no need to even think about scrolling with the mouse. Other 
times I'll not trim so that I can't be accused of having trimmed out 
something a responder might think is a lot more relevant than I did. I also 
won't trim a particularly good post if it contains an especially useful 
passage about how to do something; it prevents people from having to recall 
already read and no longer visible messages to get at the original posting 
of the information. So I leave that part in tact and trim around it.
  But the majority of the time trimming is best whenever the length of the 
post exceeds more than one or two screens in length.


Personally I often don't care if the post was trimmed or not. It's only two 
keys to get to the top or bottom, and PageUp PageDown are useful too 
sometimes.  If the entire post has been left in tact; no problem either. And 
no need to scroll thru it. Unless I wish to.
  If, however, a post has never been trimmed and there are responses from 
multiple people there as denoted by the >, >>, >>>, , (and also colors 
on my screen)  and so on, as I scroll along in those cases, I might provide 
responses to several of those people.  It's obvious from the indents who is 
being responded to, so it is one opportunity to comment on several stages of 
the discussion as it developed.


Much ado about nothing here, really. I say if the posting etiquette is that 
important to a person, they should go look for a complaint group with 
requiremetns that fit their own needs.  It's the complainer needs to change, 
not the already established groups and guidelines.


HTH,

Twayne





they have already read many times before. The main thing is to read
the etiquette prefeerences for the list or news group and than comply
with them. No matter what you do remember to trim your posts of
extraneous material to make it aier on all.

Keith





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Re: [users] Re: Path specification

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

Twayne さんは書きました:
> In news:4b797cc3.6010...@s7.dion.ne.jp,
> Thomas Blasejewicz  typed:
>> Question:
>> Is there a way I can specify ONE default path for all Writer files
>> and a different path for
>> all Calc files?
>> Having those separated would make things a little easier.
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> This might help you undestand it better:
> http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
>
> I suspect you are under a misconception about where/when the path is
> important. In particular I see no need for the path to ever include My
> Documents. It's only useful for executable files.
>
> I further suspect that rather than path, you are really concerned with
> relocating some of the program's directories. If so, each entry will
> HAVE a path, but "path" isn't relevant beyond anything executable;
> it's just a location for storage of files.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne
>
>
>
>
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>
Thank you.
Maybe I did not make myself clear. Probably the "path" thing was
confusing, but that is, what it is called in the menu ...

I want to set a "default folder" for Writer/Calc.
That means. whenever I open or save a file, Writer/Calc would look in
that particular folder for files (unless specified otherwise).
Like: open a new file in Calc, work on it and then save it. In that case
I would like Calc to save the file automatically in a folder that
contains only Calc files (same with Writer).
I can do that with Word, Lotus (very old!), Wordperfect, text editors
etc. etc., just about every software I possess.

So, I assume, that this task cannot be so difficult and somehow hope,
that OpenOffice is able to do the same trick.

Thomas

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[users] Re: Fault in spelling check

[Twayne]

In news:4b79901c.1050...@iol.ie,
Séamas Ó Brógáin  typed:

Jomali wrote:


"Significant fault" - I don't think so. Perhaps nice to have, but
the lack of the ability to specify a non-standard word separator
does not affect functionality at all.


The “significant fault” is not that I can’t specify a word separator
but that it should be necessary to consider such contrivances.

And a dash is not a “non-standard” word separator but a very standard
one for the last few hundred years. The spelling check correctly
distinguishes words separated by a hyphen (like-this), an oblique
stroke (like/this), and other punctuation marks. This should simply
work (as it did until a week ago). It now doesn’t. That’s a fault.

I notice that this feature is broken also now in connection with the
en rule: the Paris–Rome express (assuming there is such a thing) is
now a spelling mistake.

Should I just “ignore it completely”? If I am editing a book
containing possibly hundreds of dashes, each one will cause the
spelling check to stop and require me to consider the options. One
option that is not feasible is to add all legitimate occurrences to
the user dictionary, because there is an infinite number of possible
combinations of words on each side of the dashes. And it doubles,
possibly, the time taken for a spelling check. That shouldn’t happen,
and it didn’t happen until Openoffice 3.2. That‘s a significant fault.


I disagree, but it's a matter of use and taste. Just tell it to Ignore or 
Change All, as the case may be, or even add it to your dictionary if you 
want it to be part of the dictionary. Any of those ways will stop the 
display of all those hundreds of places. There are also several different 
kinds of dashes which might complicate the matter more.
  Or, see what it was about 3.1 that worked for you and bring that into 
3.2.


Actually it strikes me that you may prefer to use a dictionary other than 
the one supplied with OO.o. There are a multitude of dictionaries available, 
mostly free, that will work with OO.o by simply installing the add-on or 
add-in. Check the out; there are a lot of them both around the 'net and many 
right at OO.o's site.


IMO it's a negligible thing and not even an annoyance to this Technical 
Writer. Especially since the user has control over the contents of their 
dictionaries, default and personal alike, and the many ways they can be set 
to allow or catch many different permutations of things. Perhaps this is a 
demo of the reasons for having such functions; it allows the user fuller 
control over the checks they perform.


HTH,

Twayne






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[users] Re: Path specification

[Twayne]

In news:4b797cc3.6010...@s7.dion.ne.jp,
Thomas Blasejewicz  typed:

I know, that you can specify various different paths under
Tools -> Options -> Paths

However, as far as I could figure out so far, there is only ONE choice
for a path to your private files ("my documents").
So, I made a directory for "OO files".
Yet, most other software I know, allow to specify individual paths.

Question:
Is there a way I can specify ONE default path for all Writer files
and a different path for
all Calc files?
Having those separated would make things a little easier.

Thank you.


This might help you undestand it better:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm

I suspect you are under a misconception about where/when the path is 
important. In particular I see no need for the path to ever include My 
Documents. It's only useful for executable files.


I further suspect that rather than path, you are really concerned with 
relocating some of the program's directories. If so, each entry will HAVE a 
path, but "path" isn't relevant beyond anything executable; it's just a 
location for storage of files.



HTH,

Twayne




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[users] OT Re: Re[2]: Unacceptable personal attacks

[Twayne]

In news:1731905359.20100215081...@gmail.com,
Douglas Hinds  typed:

Programmer In Training wrote:


...


The appropriately named Troll/Idiot (see below for a full
justification of that claim) dragged it on still further:


As did the fool who posted this message being responded to.




Yet another.  You don't seem to be able to resist.


Then Robert Holtzman commented:


I've stayed out of this, but.If you see a personal attack in
what you've quoted I would conclude you could use some prfessional
help.


And yet there are multiple posts from RH. So much for "staying out of it"



And Tanstaafl added:


I agree.



Would some moderator plonk this 'Troll', please!? This is ridiculous.


You know what the thread contains: Why then are you still reading and 
commenting?




My comments here are intended to provide relevant information
regarding a repetitive openoffice users list problem stemming
from a single source:


All of which are off-topic and do not belong here but dummies continue to 
continue it.




On January 5, 6 6 7 of 2008 someone with the same username
(Troll/Idiot) emailed a total of 18 posts; five of them with the
subject:

bottom-posting Nazis go away! (was Re: [users] OOo and ...


Godwinism is alive and well.



While another five contained the subject:

OOo and Linux/Troll/Idiot- personal attacks


YOu've put a surprising amount of effort into such a trivial and silly 
thread.


The contents of his posts were similar to those he's sent on this
thread and at that time I too suggested that moderation (and banning
him from the oo users list if necessary) was in order.


Something bugs you, so rather than being intelligent enough to ignore, not 
read and other aveunues open to you, you choose to simply start berating and 
bawling to the moderators?


That's all I have to say about this issue.


No, it's not all you have to say. Youv'e "said" things in other posts in 
this thread and almost assuredly will post even more of your crap in order 
to keep the thrad going.


While trolls and power-mongers can be entertainng at times it is silly and 
wrong to respond to them in any way or offer them food of any kind. Lowering 
selves to their level simply strenghtens the appearance of your being of the 
same ilk and same beginnings and attitudes.
  The best and fastest way to halt a thread such as this is for everyone to 
stop responding to it in any way. Being thoughtful and pro-active about 
these things always win out; but trash-talking only strengthens the troll's 
reserves.


Let's quit feeding the pigs. Not that it bothers me or I really care, but a 
lot of other people sure seem to care. This thread makes a great reference 
to see who the group's trolls are.


Twayne



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Re: [users] Established email discussion group protocols (was: Unacceptable personal attacks)

[Paul]

>
> Someone who chose the name "Troll/Idiot" for himself wrote:
>
> > I believe my response then is appropriate again:
> >
> > "How's this for an option --
> >
> > Don't try to impose your personal preferences on everyone else.
>
> First of all, thank you for placing your post after my comments, so
> readers can understand what statements you are replying to.
>
>
Before this old thread restarted as a new thread gets out of hand -
again  This discussion should be on the discuss list - NOT the users
list...

'Discuss' list people, 'discuss' list...


/paul

-- 

Pablo Picasso
- "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."

[users] Established email discussion group protocols (was: Unacceptable personal attacks)

[Douglas Hinds]

Someone who chose the name "Troll/Idiot" for himself wrote:

> I believe my response then is appropriate again:
>
> "How's this for an option --
>
> Don't try to impose your personal preferences on everyone else.

First of all, thank you for placing your post after my comments, so
readers can understand what statements you are replying to.

Regarding "personal preferences":
This email discussion group isn't your (or anyone else's) sandbox
and no one is free to do anything that disrupts the list and it's
flow of informed communication.

The reason that Bottom Posting has become an established email
discussion group format, one that is mandatory on many lists, is
because it functions well.  It's less confusing.

It is also true that posts that fail to eliminate previously posted
text not relevant to the point being made will make the exchange of
information needlessly tedious and the efficiency of the discussion
group will suffer as a result.

> Be polite.

That's always nice.

> That will not only end this thread, it will go a long way toward 
> avoiding future similar discussions."

Subscribers leave and others join.  This is not the end of the road.
It will come up again.

-- 

Douglas Hinds


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Re: RES: [users] can't logon

[Greyce Giordani]

ok, thank you


Em 15/02/2010, às 21:36, Robert Holtzman escreveu:

> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:42:34PM -0200, Greyce Goes Giordani wrote:
>> Hi James,
>> 
>> I tried many times and things, I also went to Apple to ask them some help
>> and they didn't fond the problem, still not working.
>> Now I had just bought a new one directly at the store with a CD and the
>> serials printed on the back, and it worked.
>> 
>> 
>> Please, I'm asking you to cancel my order.
> 
> What order? This is a volunteer staffed list, not connected to any
> commercial entity.
> 
> -- 
> Bob Holtzman
> Key ID: 8D549279
> "If you think you're getting free lunch,
> check the price of the beer"


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Re: RES: [users] can't logon

[Greyce Giordani]

ok, thank you


Em 15/02/2010, às 20:53, James Knott escreveu:

> Greyce Goes Giordani wrote:
>> Hi James,
>> 
>> I tried many times and things, I also went to Apple to ask them some help
>> and they didn't fond the problem, still not working.
>> Now I had just bought a new one directly at the store with a CD and the
>> serials printed on the back, and it worked.
>> 
>> 
>> Please, I'm asking you to cancel my order.
>>   
> OK, you've got a Mac, which I have no experience with.  However, others on 
> this mail list may be able to help you.
> 
> What "order" are you referring to?  OpenOffice.org is a free download from 
> www.openoffice.org.
> 
> 
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Re: RES: [users] can't logon

[Robert Holtzman]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 08:42:34PM -0200, Greyce Goes Giordani wrote:
> Hi James,
> 
> I tried many times and things, I also went to Apple to ask them some help
> and they didn't fond the problem, still not working.
> Now I had just bought a new one directly at the store with a CD and the
> serials printed on the back, and it worked.
> 
> 
> Please, I'm asking you to cancel my order.

What order? This is a volunteer staffed list, not connected to any
commercial entity.

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Re: RES: [users] can't logon

[James Knott]

Greyce Goes Giordani wrote:

Hi James,

I tried many times and things, I also went to Apple to ask them some help
and they didn't fond the problem, still not working.
Now I had just bought a new one directly at the store with a CD and the
serials printed on the back, and it worked.


Please, I'm asking you to cancel my order.
   
OK, you've got a Mac, which I have no experience with.  However, others 
on this mail list may be able to help you.


What "order" are you referring to?  OpenOffice.org is a free download 
from www.openoffice.org.




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RES: [users] question

[Greyce Goes Giordani]

Hi Brian,

I tried many times, I also went to Apple Store to ask them some help and
they didn't fond the problem, still not working.
Now I had just bought a new one directly at the store with a CD and the
serials printed on the back, and it worked.


Please, I'm asking you to cancel my order.


Thank you for your help.


Greyce

-Mensagem original-
De: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2010 20:32
Para: users@openoffice.org
Cc: Gianvittorio Zandona'
Assunto: Re: [users] question

At 11:40 14/02/2010 -0800, Gianvittorio Zandona' wrote:
>I am looking at switching from Word to OpenOffice Writer and there 
>is one function in Word I have yet to find in OpenOffice and wonder 
>whether you could help me.  In Word I can select a rectangle of text 
>without that it needs to be a table (you do that with Ctrl+Alt and 
>left mouse), how do I do that in Writer?

On Windows systems, you can just use Alt+left-mouse-drag.

Alternatively (and on other systems), you need first to change the 
selection mode to "Block Area"; then you can select a block by simply 
dragging the mouse in the usual way.  You can do this in a number of ways:

o  Go to Edit | Selection Mode > | Block Area.
o  Press Alt+Shift+F8 or Ctrl+Shift+F8.
o  Click the selection mode indicator in the Status Bar at the foot 
of the Writer window.  (It probably says "STD".)  You can cycle 
between Standard, Extension, Additional selection, and Block selection
modes.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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RES: [users] can't logon

[Greyce Goes Giordani]

Hi James,

I tried many times and things, I also went to Apple to ask them some help
and they didn't fond the problem, still not working.
Now I had just bought a new one directly at the store with a CD and the
serials printed on the back, and it worked.


Please, I'm asking you to cancel my order.


Thank you for your help.


Greyce




-Mensagem original-
De: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] 
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2010 18:47
Para: users@openoffice.org; ghigg...@woh.rr.com
Assunto: Re: [users] can't logon

ghigg...@woh.rr.com wrote:
> Thanks for your response.  Let me try again.
> I use Open Office.  I have a problem with the program "crashing" 
> almost every time I use it.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
> twice. So I went to openoffice.org to find out what to do.  I had the 
> impression I had to log in to get help about this issue.  For some 
> reason I could not log in and tried to get a new password.  There was 
> a  notice that the new password had been sent to my email but it never 
> showed up.  Then I recalled that I had contacted users before.  So 
> that was how got to you.
> So I am trying to find out what to do about this crashing problem.  
> The log in  issue is incidental.
> I know about the crashing because the program stops responding  and 
> puts up a message that the program has crashed and documents need to 
> be recovered. I lose big chunks of the current document each time.  
> Can you tell me how to fix this?
Please advise what operating system (Windows etc.) you're running and 
also what version of OpenOffice.  I suspect there may be some other 
issue with your computer as, in my experience, OpenOffice.org is very 
stable.  Is it an older computer with limited resources?


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Re: [users] question

[Brian Barker]

At 11:40 14/02/2010 -0800, Gianvittorio Zandona' wrote:
I am looking at switching from Word to OpenOffice Writer and there 
is one function in Word I have yet to find in OpenOffice and wonder 
whether you could help me.  In Word I can select a rectangle of text 
without that it needs to be a table (you do that with Ctrl+Alt and 
left mouse), how do I do that in Writer?


On Windows systems, you can just use Alt+left-mouse-drag.

Alternatively (and on other systems), you need first to change the 
selection mode to "Block Area"; then you can select a block by simply 
dragging the mouse in the usual way.  You can do this in a number of ways:


o  Go to Edit | Selection Mode > | Block Area.
o  Press Alt+Shift+F8 or Ctrl+Shift+F8.
o  Click the selection mode indicator in the Status Bar at the foot 
of the Writer window.  (It probably says "STD".)  You can cycle 
between Standard, Extension, Additional selection, and Block selection modes.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] can't logon

[James Knott]

ghigg...@woh.rr.com wrote:

Thanks for your response.  Let me try again.
I use Open Office.  I have a problem with the program "crashing" 
almost every time I use it.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
twice. So I went to openoffice.org to find out what to do.  I had the 
impression I had to log in to get help about this issue.  For some 
reason I could not log in and tried to get a new password.  There was 
a  notice that the new password had been sent to my email but it never 
showed up.  Then I recalled that I had contacted users before.  So 
that was how got to you.
So I am trying to find out what to do about this crashing problem.  
The log in  issue is incidental.
I know about the crashing because the program stops responding  and 
puts up a message that the program has crashed and documents need to 
be recovered. I lose big chunks of the current document each time.  
Can you tell me how to fix this?
Please advise what operating system (Windows etc.) you're running and 
also what version of OpenOffice.  I suspect there may be some other 
issue with your computer as, in my experience, OpenOffice.org is very 
stable.  Is it an older computer with limited resources?



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[users] Calc: Boxplot and export of diagrams?

[Boris Girnat]

Dear all,

I like to use OO very much, but I miss two feature in Calc:

1) I found no method to extract a diagram in a vector format (like eps, 
pdf, emf or svg). It seems only be possible to convert a whole data 
sheet into a pdf file and to extract the diagram from the pdf by a 
external tool afterwards. That's laborious and a bad disadvantage in 
contrast to the excellent export function of Draw.


2) There seems to be no possibility to create boxplots. Boxplots are 
very common illustrations in stochastics. This would be a nice feature 
to have.


Are my observations correct and do these features really not exist?


best reagards,

Boris


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Re: [users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Troll/Idiot]

On 15-Feb-10 13:04, Paul wrote:

[snip]
  >  I do respect the views of those who disagree with that last point and am
willing to continue the>  discussion if they wish.


Please do so on the discuss list then - this topic is not suitable for the
users list.

/paul

Users/Discuss moderator

   
It's bad enough having people who consider personal invective an 
acceptable tool of discussion on this list; I'm not going to be their 
target on another!


Troll/Idiot
Invective is ineffective.

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Re: [users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Paul]

[snip]
 > I do respect the views of those who disagree with that last point and am
willing to continue the > discussion if they wish.


Please do so on the discuss list then - this topic is not suitable for the
users list.

/paul

Users/Discuss moderator

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[users] Re: dealing with photographs

[Paul]

> I NEED HELP;THIS IS THE SECOND E-MAIL THAT I HAVE SENT REGARDING THIS
> TOPIC,
> IAM NEW TO COMPUTORS DUE TO JUST PURCHASING ONE,I GOT OPEN OFFICE BECAUSE I
> THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO USE THAN WINDOWS OFFICE,
>
>I NEED HELP.
>
> CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE ABOUTS IN OPEN OFFICE I NEED TO BE TO DEAL
> WITH MY PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS,
> (1) I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO DELIVER A THUMBNAIL PRINT OUT OF
> PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN AND WERE THEY CAN BE FOUND ON MY PC.
>
> (2) GENERAL A-Z OF USING OPEN OFFICE TO MY ADVANTAGE,SO THAT I CAN ORGANISE
> MY WORKING IN THE CORRECT FILES IN MY PC.
>
>
Emails asking for help should be to us...@openoffice.org.

All capitals in emails is considered 'shouting' and rude... Someone may
assist - but keep in mind that this list is supported by volunteers, not
paid employees.

/paul

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Ebner-Eschenbach
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Re: [users] can't logon

[ghigg...@woh.rr.com]

Thanks for your response.  Nice to hear from England!
Let me try again.
I use Open Office.  I have a problem with the program "crashing" almost 
every time I use it.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it twice. So I went 
to openoffice.org to find out what to do.  I had the impression I had to log 
in to get help about this issue.  For some reason I could not log in and 
tried to get a new password.  There was a  notice that the new password had 
been sent to my email but it never showed up.  Then I recalled that I had 
contacted users before.  So that was how got to you.
So I am trying to find out what to do about this crashing problem.  The log 
in  issue is incidental.
I know about the crashing because the program stops responding  and puts up 
a message that the program has crashed and documents need to be recovered. 
I lose big chunks of the current document each time.  Can you tell me how to 
fix this?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Harold Fuchs 
  To: users@openoffice.org 
  Cc: ghiggi...@woh.rr.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [users] can't logon





  On 12 February 2010 23:03, ghigg...@woh.rr.com  wrote:

I have tried repeatedly to log on but can't do it.  tried to get  password, 
you say it was was sent to my email but I never got it. so can't log on to try 
to discover why my documents crash every time I access them.
Glenna Higgins

  Log on to what *exactly*, please?

  You don't ever need to logon to download, install or use the OpenOffice.org 
(OOo) software. All three are completely free. Always. Download from 
. Beware expensive imitations!

  When you install OOo you will be asked to register. This is purely optional 
and designed mainly so that the authors of the software can keep a rough track 
of the number of users and where they are.

  You don't need a password for support either. That's free too, via this e-mil 
list.

  There are various support web forums that *do* want passwords. If you are 
talking about one of those then you'll need to contact its administrator. 
Details of the forums available are on the Support page linked from 
. Details of how to contact a forum's administrator will be 
on that forum's web page. Please note that all this support is free and run by 
*users* of OOo who volunteer time to help others.


  -- 
  Harold Fuchs
  London, England
  Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org

[users] question

[Gianvittorio Zandona']

> I am looking at switching from Word to OpenOffice Writer and there is
> one function in Word I have yet to find in OpenOffice and wonder whether
> you could help me.
> 
> In Word I can select a rectangle of text without that it needs to be a
> table (you do that with Ctrl+Alt and left mouse), how do I do that in
> Writer?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Gian 


  

OOo Support.odt
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Re: [users] can't logon

[ghigg...@woh.rr.com]

Thanks for your response.  Let me try again.
I use Open Office.  I have a problem with the program "crashing" almost 
every time I use it.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it twice. So I went 
to openoffice.org to find out what to do.  I had the impression I had to log 
in to get help about this issue.  For some reason I could not log in and 
tried to get a new password.  There was a  notice that the new password had 
been sent to my email but it never showed up.  Then I recalled that I had 
contacted users before.  So that was how got to you.
So I am trying to find out what to do about this crashing problem.  The log 
in  issue is incidental.
I know about the crashing because the program stops responding  and puts up 
a message that the program has crashed and documents need to be recovered. I 
lose big chunks of the current document each time.  Can you tell me how to 
fix this?





- Original Message - 
From: "James Knott" 

To: ; 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [users] can't logon



ghigg...@woh.rr.com wrote:
I have tried repeatedly to log on but can't do it.  tried to get 
password, you say it was was sent to my email but I never got it. so 
can't log on to try to discover why my documents crash every time I 
access them.

Glenna Higgins

What are you trying to log into?  You don't need any password to download, 
install or use OpenOffice.org.






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Re: [users] Re: Making a newly installed OOo 3.2 the default over OOo 3.1 in Ubuntu

[M Henri Day]

2010/2/15 NoOp 

> On 02/15/2010 05:57 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
> ...
> >
> > Alas, as is my wont, I spoke too soon ! I've just noted that, for
> example, a
> > .doc file sent as an attachment to an email still opens by default in OOo
> > 3.1. Any suggestions as to how to correct this ?...
> >
> > Henri
> >
>
> Yes... save the attachment to a folder and open from there. Otherwise
> ask on your email client list to find out how to change the defaults in
> your client.
>

Aha, so that's the problem ! I use webmail rather than an email client, as I
regarding the latter as superfluous now that I am more or less permanently
connected to the internet. Still, I find it strange that when I choose the
alternative to download an attachment, the latter opens by default in OOo
3.1 rather than OOo 3.2. In the event I find a solution, I'll post back for
the benefit of other users with similar problems

Henri

Re: [users] Fault in spelling check

[Séamas Ó Brógáin]

Jomali wrote:


"Significant fault" - I don't think so. Perhaps nice to have, but the lack
of the ability to specify a non-standard word separator does not affect
functionality at all.


The “significant fault” is not that I can’t specify a word separator but
that it should be necessary to consider such contrivances.

And a dash is not a “non-standard” word separator but a very standard
one for the last few hundred years. The spelling check correctly
distinguishes words separated by a hyphen (like-this), an oblique stroke
(like/this), and other punctuation marks. This should simply work (as it
did until a week ago). It now doesn’t. That’s a fault.

I notice that this feature is broken also now in connection with the en
rule: the Paris–Rome express (assuming there is such a thing) is now a
spelling mistake.

Should I just “ignore it completely”? If I am editing a book containing
possibly hundreds of dashes, each one will cause the spelling check to
stop and require me to consider the options. One option that is not
feasible is to add all legitimate occurrences to the user dictionary,
because there is an infinite number of possible combinations of words on
each side of the dashes. And it doubles, possibly, the time taken for a
spelling check. That shouldn’t happen, and it didn’t happen until
Openoffice 3.2. That‘s a significant fault.


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[users] Re: Making a newly installed OOo 3.2 the default over OOo 3.1 in Ubuntu

[NoOp]

On 02/15/2010 05:57 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
...
> 
> Alas, as is my wont, I spoke too soon ! I've just noted that, for example, a
> .doc file sent as an attachment to an email still opens by default in OOo
> 3.1. Any suggestions as to how to correct this ?...
> 
> Henri
> 

Yes... save the attachment to a folder and open from there. Otherwise
ask on your email client list to find out how to change the defaults in
your client.




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Re: [users] OO 2.4 WRITER DEBIAN LENNY

[Raul Claro]

Gracias, Sylvia, por tu interés  y consejos. La verdad es que, por 
casualidad, encontré la solución: no había instalado 
openoffice.org-gnome; eso estaba causando el problema de los acentos. 
Ahora todo eso debiera andar bien.


Los otros problemas que anoto... es lo que suele pasar con las 
actualizaciones, se gana y se pierde. Yo por mí prefiero ir más lento. 
Con mi versión 2 tengo todo lo que necesito. Temo que al pasarme a 3 me 
voy a encontrar de nuevo con desagradables sorpresas.  Y no sé si esa 
versión 3, que no está en la distribución Debian-Lenny, que uso 
(stable), va a funcionar.


Muchas gracias de todos modos. Guardaré tu meil para futuro uso, cuando 
me decida al cambio.


Saludos

Raúl



Sylvia Sánchez wrote:

Raúl, te sugeriría que desinstalaras esa que tenés e instales la nueva
versión descargándola directamente del sitio de OpenOffice.  Ya es la
3.2, fijate, vas a quedar muy atrasado si no.
Para instalarla luego vas a root, extraés los archivos del paquete
hacia una carpeta cualqiuera  (de faćil acceso)  y ponés en la consola
dpkg -i paquete1 de openoffice
O bien
dpkg -install paquete1 de opneoffice
Y así hasta terminar con todos los paquetes de la carpeta.  Cuando
hayas terminado salí de root y entrá en un usuario común para ver como
marcha el programa.  Si todo sale bien, podés volver a root y tirar
los archivos que descargaste del sitio.


Saludos y Espero que te haya servido de ayuda




2010/2/14 Raul Claro:
  

  Hello, I am new on this list.
  I have been using OO for ages now and I am very pleased with i on the
whole.  More than anything, with the former version, OO 2.1, which went with
Etch in Linux-Debian. It was wonderful, fast, and had a lot of useful
characteristics.

  I  upgraded Debian to Lenny (I had to, because of Flash) and it was not
possible (though I tried) to keep OpenOffice 2.1.  Now I have the version
2.4 and find the following irritating changes:

(1) The worst of them is that the Spanish keyboard very easily stops writing
the Spanish accent (á, é) and the Spanish ñ, for no apparent reason. This
can be fixed by pressing Format and then Sign, just that. I go back to the
text and the accents are there again. But two minutes later I must repeat
the whole procedure, because they have disappeared again. A real nuisance.
WHY, or WHEN precisely they dissapear, I haven't found out yet.

(2)  And then it is a pity, that the icon von "Save" does not fade anymore
when a file has been already saved. That was a useful, lovely feature of OO
2.1.  Is is gone now, it stays unchanged when you save the file, so you
never know any more whether the file needs saving again or not.

(3)  Another useful item was the fact, that when a file was saved and
closed, and then reopened, OO opened the file AT THE SAME PAGE where it was
closed before. Now it is opened always at the beginning, which means that I
have to look up the place I left the file every time anew.

I would be very grateful for help here. There doesn't seem to be a Spanish
mailing-list (I couldn't find one on the site), so I write to this one.

Raúl





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[users] Re: clip art

[Maurice Batey]

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:20:37 +, Maurice Batey wrote:

>  At this point a small window headed 'Apply' opened, but it was
> incomplete, and would not respond to mouse clicks. It also locked up
> Writer.

  Trying again, I find that adding individual items from the
(very long) list does work, and even Add All does now start to work as
if all is well - showing each file name as it processes  it.
  But then - after a few files - it freezes on one (not always the
same one), the Apply window no longer responds to 'Cancel' or
'Exit', and I get an abnormal exit from Writer.

So 'Apply' is screwing up a short way down the list...

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Re: [users] OOo Writer not seeing newly installed fonts

[John Jason Jordan]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:33:01 +0200
Dotan Cohen  dijo:

>In Kubuntu 9.10 with OOo 3.1, Writer is not letting me use
>newly-installed fonts. I did reset the computer after installing the
>fonts. The gucharmap application shows that the font is correctly
>installed and accessible, but Writer does not list it in the list of
>fonts. I do not see the problem addressed in the Font-FAQ of the OOo
>wiki.

What is the font? 

How did you install it?

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[users] Re: Re: clip art

[Maurice Batey]

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:19:39 -0600, Programmer In Training wrote:

> What speed processor? How much RAM?

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 (2.50GHz).   4GB RAM.

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[users] Re: Re: clip art

[Maurice Batey]

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:19:39 -0600, Programmer In Training wrote:

> I'm adding it just fine on my nearly 7 year old box...

  Where do the contents of the 375MB download actually finish up?!

  (Here, nothing seemed to have been added to ~/.ooo3/gallery.)

Roughly how long did the install take on your m/c?

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[users] Re: Clip art library - problem installing

[Maurice Batey]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:39:21 +, I wrote:

> When I tried the above in OpenOffice 3.1.1, Writer locked up at the
> 'Add all' stage (Step 11 of the web site instructions)...

  Apologies for double posting!  I failed to notice that my original
posting had arrived OK in the thread started by Roger Hall...

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[users] Path specification

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

I know, that you can specify various different paths under
Tools -> Options -> Paths

However, as far as I could figure out so far, there is only ONE choice
for a path to your private files ("my documents").
So, I made a directory for "OO files".
Yet, most other software I know, allow to specify individual paths.

Question:
Is there a way I can specify ONE default path for all Writer files and a
different path for
all Calc files?
Having those separated would make things a little easier.

Thank you.

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Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?

[Marcello Romani]

David B Teague ha scritto:


I understand that OOo 3.2 is available.

Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and 
that it runs as well as 3.1?  Any problems? One sentence would do. Even 
a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK.


I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though NEVER 
from OO.o.


David Teague
Flames to /dev/null, please.



Installed on a Windows XP SP3 system, Athlon XP 1.8GHz, 1GB RAM, 80GB 
HD. First impression is it's _much_ faster than 3.1 installed on the 
same system. Haven't tested it extensively, but no problems so far.


Thanks to everybody who contributed to this release!

--
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[users] Clip art library - problem installing

[Maurice Batey]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:26:15 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> However, you can always download clip arts.
> http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Clipart-to-OpenOffice.org

When I tried the above in OpenOffice 3.1.1, Writer locked up at the
'Add all' stage (Step 11 of the web site instructions).

Having done the 375MB download I extracted the files and gave the New
Theme 'Files' function the address of the generated directory
(~/Download/openclipart-0.19), and clicked Select.
It then generated a long list of the clipart objects, and I
then clicked the 'Add All' button.
  At this point a small window headed 'Apply' opened, but it was
incomplete, and would not respond to mouse clicks. It also locked up
Writer.

What is the 'Apply' window for?  I did try letting it run for 20
minutes, thinking that perhaps it simply needed a long time to
complete, but when I returned, Writer's screen was an  empty shell,
from which I had to skull-and-crossbones out.

What is Add All supposed to be doing at that point?
(There was no change in the conents of ~/.ooo3/gallery.)

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Re: [users] OO 2.4 WRITER DEBIAN LENNY

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Raúl, te sugeriría que desinstalaras esa que tenés e instales la nueva
versión descargándola directamente del sitio de OpenOffice.  Ya es la
3.2, fijate, vas a quedar muy atrasado si no.
Para instalarla luego vas a root, extraés los archivos del paquete
hacia una carpeta cualqiuera  (de faćil acceso)  y ponés en la consola
dpkg -i paquete1 de openoffice
O bien
dpkg -install paquete1 de opneoffice
Y así hasta terminar con todos los paquetes de la carpeta.  Cuando
hayas terminado salí de root y entrá en un usuario común para ver como
marcha el programa.  Si todo sale bien, podés volver a root y tirar
los archivos que descargaste del sitio.


Saludos y Espero que te haya servido de ayuda




2010/2/14 Raul Claro:
>   Hello, I am new on this list.
>   I have been using OO for ages now and I am very pleased with i on the
> whole.  More than anything, with the former version, OO 2.1, which went with
> Etch in Linux-Debian. It was wonderful, fast, and had a lot of useful
> characteristics.
>
>   I  upgraded Debian to Lenny (I had to, because of Flash) and it was not
> possible (though I tried) to keep OpenOffice 2.1.  Now I have the version
> 2.4 and find the following irritating changes:
>
> (1) The worst of them is that the Spanish keyboard very easily stops writing
> the Spanish accent (á, é) and the Spanish ñ, for no apparent reason. This
> can be fixed by pressing Format and then Sign, just that. I go back to the
> text and the accents are there again. But two minutes later I must repeat
> the whole procedure, because they have disappeared again. A real nuisance.
> WHY, or WHEN precisely they dissapear, I haven't found out yet.
>
> (2)  And then it is a pity, that the icon von "Save" does not fade anymore
> when a file has been already saved. That was a useful, lovely feature of OO
> 2.1.  Is is gone now, it stays unchanged when you save the file, so you
> never know any more whether the file needs saving again or not.
>
> (3)  Another useful item was the fact, that when a file was saved and
> closed, and then reopened, OO opened the file AT THE SAME PAGE where it was
> closed before. Now it is opened always at the beginning, which means that I
> have to look up the place I left the file every time anew.
>
> I would be very grateful for help here. There doesn't seem to be a Spanish
> mailing-list (I couldn't find one on the site), so I write to this one.
>
> Raúl
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users] [Resolved] Re:Page Background Does Not Export to PDF with oo3.2

[M Henri Day]

2010/2/15 Gene Kohlenberg 

> On 2/15/2010 4:59 AM, Guy Voets wrote:
>
>> 2010/2/12 Gene Kohlenberg:
>>
>>> I just exported a letter to PDF and find that with oo3.2.0, OOO320m12
>>> (Build:9483) using XP Media Center with service pack 3 the background
>>> does
>>> not appear in the PDF file.  I can't find an option to turn it on or off
>>> as
>>> is possible when sending a document to a printer.  Is this a new bug?  I
>>> exported the same file using oo3.1.1 on another computer and the
>>> background
>>> is exported.
>>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can't confirm this with OOo 3.2 (m12 9483) on Mac Leopard.
>> Prints PDF with background as required.
>>
>
> I found the problem.  I had checked print options under the OpenOffice.org
> section, but I forgot to go to the OpenOffice.org Writer section under
> options to look for printer options.  The Contents option box was unchecked
> (unticked).  After I checked it, I now get the background when I export the
> document as a PDF file.
>

Thanks for posting back with the solution, Gene !...

Henri

Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it? Yes: loading speed report

[David B Teague]

Thanks again to everyone who responded to my question.

I fetched OO.o 3.2 and installed it. Installation on my system took 
about 45 minutes.


My system is runs XP SP3, processor is Sempron 2800+, 1.6 GHz, with 1 GB 
RAM, and fairly fast hard drives, kept defragmented (Diskeeper). I don't 
know the front side bus and RAM speeds. (Can someone tell me how to find 
those numbers, please?) This is not a fast system, but it is quite 
tolerable.


Loading and creating a blank document when OO.o is not in memory (but 
with the QuickStarter loaded) and several programs are running takes 
about 25 seconds, somewhat less time than 3.1.1. After a fresh boot this 
takes 15 seconds. With OO.o in memory, loading a 1,330 KB document only 
about 5 seconds.  I am very happy with OO.o 3.2 so far. I'll have to see 
how features are improved.


Warmest Regards,
--David Teague


On 2/15/2010 7:12 AM, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote:
Don’t overlook the most important difference of all: Openoffice now 
(at last) reads, displays and prints Opentype fonts.



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[users] [Resolved] Re:Page Background Does Not Export to PDF with oo3.2

[Gene Kohlenberg]

On 2/15/2010 4:59 AM, Guy Voets wrote:

2010/2/12 Gene Kohlenberg:

I just exported a letter to PDF and find that with oo3.2.0, OOO320m12
(Build:9483) using XP Media Center with service pack 3 the background does
not appear in the PDF file.  I can't find an option to turn it on or off as
is possible when sending a document to a printer.  Is this a new bug?  I
exported the same file using oo3.1.1 on another computer and the background
is exported.


Hello,

Can't confirm this with OOo 3.2 (m12 9483) on Mac Leopard.
Prints PDF with background as required.


I found the problem.  I had checked print options under the 
OpenOffice.org section, but I forgot to go to the OpenOffice.org Writer 
section under options to look for printer options.  The Contents option 
box was unchecked (unticked).  After I checked it, I now get the 
background when I export the document as a PDF file.



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Re: [users] Fault in spelling check

[jomali]

"Significant fault" - I don't think so. Perhaps nice to have, but the lack
of the ability to specify a non-standard word separator does not affect
functionality at all. The only thing that happens is an annoying
notification of a spelling error, which you can ignore completely.

Why don't you just enter a feature request so the developers can consider a
change in the future?

Jomali

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Séamas Ó Brógáin  wrote:

> I’ve just noticed what seems to be a fault in Openoffice 3.2. Two words
> separated by a dash, thus:
>
>  then—after
>
> are underlined in red and are picked up as a fault in the spelling check.
>
> In some applications there is (or was) a feature whereby the user chose
> what would be the characters regarded as word separators. I don’t think
> there is such an option in Openoffice, in which case this is a
> significant fault.
>
>
>
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Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks

[Troll/Idiot]

On 15-Feb-10 08:13, Douglas Hinds wrote:

Programmer In Training wrote:

   

I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to
engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private
missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to
reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself.
   

The appropriately named Troll/Idiot (see below for a full
justification of that claim) dragged it on still further:

   

Yet another.  You don't seem to be able to resist.
 

Then Robert Holtzman commented:

   

I've stayed out of this, but.If you see a personal attack in
what you've quoted I would conclude you could use some prfessional
help.
   

And Tanstaafl added:

   

I agree.
 
   

Would some moderator plonk this 'Troll', please!? This is ridiculous.
 

My comments here are intended to provide relevant information
regarding a repetitive openoffice users list problem stemming
from a single source:

On January 5, 6 6 7 of 2008 someone with the same username
(Troll/Idiot) emailed a total of 18 posts; five of them with the
subject:

  bottom-posting Nazis go away! (was Re: [users] OOo and ...

While another five contained the subject:

  OOo and Linux/Troll/Idiot- personal attacks

The contents of his posts were similar to those he's sent on this
thread and at that time I too suggested that moderation (and banning
him from the oo users list if necessary) was in order.

That's all I have to say about this issue.

   

Thanks for bringing that up.

The subject of posting style does come up occasionally, and the 
discussion seems to follow the same general course -- someone suggests 
that top-posting is preferable and others suggest that he's 
inexperienced, unintelligent and mentally unstable.  Assertions of that 
nature tend to prolong the thread as many of the posts consist of 
personal attacks unrelated to merits of either position.


In the recent threads I have not taken a position on the desirability of 
any particular style of posting, but have maintained that disagreement 
with a poster's position doesn't justify personal attacks, ever.  That 
position is apparently both controversial and interesting as quite a few 
other list members have participated in opposing it, often in ways that 
would appear to be inconsistent with list guidelines against flaming.


I think Douglas Hinds' suggestion has some merit, but I suggest banning 
those members that have been the most insulting to other people on the 
list, and I hope he and others will join me in objecting to further 
instances of that behavior.


Back in January of 2008 Douglas Hinds wrote:

"Lastly, I believe that any further discussion of this issue on this
forum is detrimental to the purpose for which the openoffice users
list was created. Any others sharing that opinion who wish to
coordinate efforts to put an end to this otherwise interminable
abuse can contact me via private mail to discuss the available
options."

I believe my response then is appropriate again:

"How's this for an option --

Don't try to impose your personal preferences on everyone else.

Be polite.

That will not only end this thread, it will go a long way toward 
avoiding future similar discussions."


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Re[2]: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks

[Douglas Hinds]

Programmer In Training wrote:

 I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to
 engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private
 missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to
 reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself.

The appropriately named Troll/Idiot (see below for a full
justification of that claim) dragged it on still further:

>>> Yet another.  You don't seem to be able to resist.

Then Robert Holtzman commented:

>> I've stayed out of this, but.If you see a personal attack in
>> what you've quoted I would conclude you could use some prfessional
>> help.

And Tanstaafl added:

> I agree.

> Would some moderator plonk this 'Troll', please!? This is ridiculous.

My comments here are intended to provide relevant information
regarding a repetitive openoffice users list problem stemming
from a single source:

On January 5, 6 6 7 of 2008 someone with the same username
(Troll/Idiot) emailed a total of 18 posts; five of them with the
subject:

 bottom-posting Nazis go away! (was Re: [users] OOo and ...

While another five contained the subject:

 OOo and Linux/Troll/Idiot- personal attacks

The contents of his posts were similar to those he's sent on this
thread and at that time I too suggested that moderation (and banning
him from the oo users list if necessary) was in order.

That's all I have to say about this issue.

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[users] Fault in spelling check

[Séamas Ó Brógáin]

I’ve just noticed what seems to be a fault in Openoffice 3.2. Two words
separated by a dash, thus:

  then—after

are underlined in red and are picked up as a fault in the spelling check.

In some applications there is (or was) a feature whereby the user chose
what would be the characters regarded as word separators. I don’t think
there is such an option in Openoffice, in which case this is a
significant fault.




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Re: [users] Re: Making a newly installed OOo 3.2 the default over OOo 3.1 in Ubuntu

[M Henri Day]

2010/2/15 M Henri Day 

> 2010/2/15 NoOp 
>
> On 02/14/2010 04:48 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
>> > 2010/2/14 NoOp 
>> >
>> >> On 02/13/2010 08:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> >> > On 02/13/2010 12:15 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
>> >> >> 2010/2/13 NoOp ...
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Then you didn't actually uninstall 3.1, or you didn't install 3.2.
>> >> >>> Please provide details on *exactly* what and how you installed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Here below, NoOp, the gory details :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1) Downloaded
>> «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz»
>> >> >> package to my Downloads directory.
>> >> >> 2) Opened the Synaptic package manager and uninstalled v 3.2.0rc4.
>> >> >> 3) Extacted the contents
>> >> >> of «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz» to a
>> folder
>> >> >> called «OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483» in my home directory.
>> >> >> 4) Opened a terminal, cd-ed into
>> >> ../OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483/DEBS
>> >> >> 5) Installed the Debs files via «sudo dpkg -i *.deb».
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After checking to see that the new installation was up and running,
>> I
>> >> went
>> >> >> back to Synaptic and uninstalled all the «ooobasis-dev3.1...» files
>> >> found
>> >> >> there. Despite this, as noted above, both .odt and .doc files open
>> in
>> >> OOo
>> >> >> 3.1, as do .pps files. In addition to the
>> >> «OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483»
>> >> >> folder mentioned above, the earlier
>> «OOO310_m11_native_packed-3_sv.9399»
>> >> >> folder still is found in my home directory ; would removing the
>> latter
>> >> >> resolve the problem ?...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > A few points:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. You don't need to uninstall (U)OOo, it will reside nicely
>> >> > side-by-side with standard OOo. There is a trick to this though...
>> you
>> >> > need to modify the (S)OOo file to to use an alternate profile to the
>> >> > (U)OOo. This is what I do:
>> >> >
>> >> > - First set write permissions on /opt/openoffice.org3/bootstraprc
>> >> >
>> >> > $ sudo chmod +w /opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc
>> >> >
>> >> > - Modify that file to:
>> >> >   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
>> >>
>> >> Correction:
>> >> - Modify that file *from*:
>> >>   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
>> >> to
>> >>   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
>> >>
>> >
>> > NoOp, thanks for your detailed reply ! My write-protected
>> > «/opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc» file looked like this :
>> >
>> > [Bootstrap]
>> > BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
>> > InstallMode=
>> > ProductKey=OpenOffice.org 3.2
>> > UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3
>> > [ErrorReport]
>> > ErrorReportPort=80
>> > ErrorReportServer=report.services.openoffice.org
>> >
>> > I tried to use the «chmod» command you suggested above, but for some
>> strange
>> > reason, I couldn't get the «+w» option to take, so I decided to run
>> «sudo
>> > chmod 777 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
>> > bootstraprc» instead - an elephant gun to shoot mosquitoes, perhaps, but
>> it
>> > worked. When I open the file, I now see
>> «UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.
>> > openoffice.org/3/3».
>>
>> 
>> Correction:
>> - Modify that file *from*:
>>  'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
>> to
>>   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
>> 
>>
>> > However, despite this change, when I click an .odt or a
>> > .doc file, it still opens in Writer in OOo 3.1 ! A piece of information
>> > which may or not be useful in this context is that the command which
>> opens
>> > OOo 3.2 is «/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice». Hope you can suggest
>> a
>> > way out - I can work around the problem easily enough, by first opening
>> OOo
>> > 3.2 and then opening my files from within Writer, but it irritates me
>> that I
>> > can't change the default
>>
>> Perhaps you missed the part about setting your defaults in Nautilus?
>>
>
> Indeed, I had ! After rereading your instructions, I assigned .odt, .doc.,
> and .docx files to «swriter» and .ppt and .pps files to «simpress» and all
> my documents of these types are now opening in OOo 3.2. Thanks, NoOp, I knew
> that I could count on you to resolve the problem. Hope others in a similar
> situation find our discussion above useful !...
>
> Henri
>

Alas, as is my wont, I spoke too soon ! I've just noted that, for example, a
.doc file sent as an attachment to an email still opens by default in OOo
3.1. Any suggestions as to how to correct this ?...

Henri

Re: [users] Re: clip art

[Marcello Romani]

Programmer In Training ha scritto:

On 02/14/10 14:20, Maurice Batey wrote:


  At this point a small window headed 'Apply' opened, but it was
incomplete, and would not respond to mouse clicks. It also locked up
Writer.



What speed processor? How much RAM? I'm adding it just fine on my nearly
7 year old box running FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE (2.4GHz PIV, 1.5GB RAM).



I've seen the same problem on a Toshiba laptop - T2250, 3GB Ram, 320GB 
Hard disk, Ubuntu 9.10 fully updated, OOo version: the most up-to-date 
from the Ubuntu repos.


--
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Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks

[Troll/Idiot]

On 15-Feb-10 01:41, Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 03:50:43PM -0600, Troll/Idiot wrote:
   

On 14-Feb-10 15:44, Programmer In Training wrote:
 

On 02/14/10 15:16, Troll/Idiot wrote:

   

Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal
attacks in the various "Top posting" threads.  I received the message

 

Really? I am? I don't see any personal attack at all. I merely said the
other person was expressing an opinion of you and not necessarily
attacking you. How is that a personal attack?


   

quoted below directly.  It is an excellent example of the kind of post I
have been protesting.

 

Yes, you have been protesting it by inviting it upon yourself. Very nice
method. My apologies for "attacking" you and degrading myself by
stooping so low.


   

I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is
acceptable.

 



I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to
engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private
missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to
reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself.

Peace.


   

Yet another.  You don't seem to be able to resist.
 

I've stayed out of this, but.If you see a personal attack in
what you've quoted I would conclude you could use some prfessional
help.
   
Don't think I'm ignoring your thoughtful message; I just need a little 
time to consider whether your suggestion that I need professional help 
is a sincere expression of concern or an attempt to impugn my mental 
health.  If it were an attack it would be a post contrary to list 
guidelines, so it's hard for me to imagine that you would even consider it.


Troll/Idiot
Have a nice day.

Troll/Idiot
Have a nice day.


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Re: [users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Troll/Idiot]

On 15-Feb-10 05:40, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-02-14 4:05 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
   

I could also say that most people who bottom post mindlessly do not snip
either.
 

This thread is really ridiculous and I've tried to ignore the monotonous
blathering by the OP after my one canned response, but...

Most people who bottom post *do* *not* *do* *so* *mindlessly*.

Yes, there are the occasional newbies to Thunderbird (which defaults to
bottom posting), but they usually get 'assistance' pretty quick because
reading their replies is painful...

As I said, my biggest peeve are those who mindlessly and vainly attempt
to defend their uncontrolled (whether bottom or top) posting, and
totally ignore the entire point of trimming your posts to make them
readable and on point.
   
The OP is Keith R. Bainbridge and he doesn't seem to have posted since.  
I don't recall any posts suggesting that people who bottom post or post 
interleaved do so mindlessly.  There have been several posts that 
suggested top posters were deficient in intelligence, experience, 
education or character.  The invective seems to be almost entirely 
one-sided.  I have posted quite a few times objecting to personal abuse, 
because as well as being wrong it is ineffective for encouraging a 
cooperative and helpful atmosphere on the list.  I do respect the views 
of those who disagree with that last point and am willing to continue 
the discussion if they wish.


Troll/Idiot
Have a nice day.


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Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks

[Troll/Idiot]

On 15-Feb-10 05:40, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-02-14 4:16 PM, Troll/Idiot wrote:
   

Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal
attacks in the various "Top posting" threads.  I received the message
quoted below directly.  It is an excellent example of the kind of post I
have been protesting.

I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is
acceptable.
 

Hey Troll...

Posting something to a list that was sent privately is *way* out of
bounds. Then you follow it up with a complaint about ON list etiquette??

Your name befits you.

PLONK
   
Since the message in question was sent as a continuation of a list 
thread without my invitation, I have no obligation to keep it private 
and the sender has no right to expect I will.


Further you just called me a troll, which is a personal attack.  A 
person named Smith is not necessarily a smith.


Troll/Idiot
Have a nice day

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Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?

[Séamas Ó Brógáin]

Don’t overlook the most important difference of all: Openoffice now (at 
last) reads, displays and prints Opentype fonts.



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Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks

[Tanstaafl]

On 2010-02-15 2:41 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 03:50:43PM -0600, Troll/Idiot wrote:
>> On 14-Feb-10 15:44, Programmer In Training wrote:
>>> I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to
>>> engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private
>>> missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to
>>> reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself.

>> Yet another.  You don't seem to be able to resist.

> I've stayed out of this, but.If you see a personal attack in
> what you've quoted I would conclude you could use some prfessional
> help.

I agree.

Would some moderator plonk this 'Troll', please!? This is ridiculous.

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Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?

[M Henri Day]

2010/2/14 David B Teague 

>
> I understand that OOo 3.2 is available.
>
> Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and that
> it runs as well as 3.1?  Any problems? One sentence would do. Even a URL to
> an OO.o users' forum would be OK.
>
> I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though NEVER
> from OO.o.
>
> David Teague
> Flames to /dev/null, please.
>

David, now that with NoOp's kind help, I managed to set 3.2 as the default
for various files, I find that it works very well for me. It does seem to
load more quickly than earlier versions, but this is merely an impression on
my part

Henri

Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks

[Tanstaafl]

On 2010-02-14 4:16 PM, Troll/Idiot wrote:
> Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal
> attacks in the various "Top posting" threads.  I received the message
> quoted below directly.  It is an excellent example of the kind of post I
> have been protesting.
> 
> I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is
> acceptable.

Hey Troll...

Posting something to a list that was sent privately is *way* out of
bounds. Then you follow it up with a complaint about ON list etiquette??

Your name befits you.

PLONK

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Re: [users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed

[Tanstaafl]

On 2010-02-14 4:05 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> I could also say that most people who bottom post mindlessly do not snip
> either.

This thread is really ridiculous and I've tried to ignore the monotonous
blathering by the OP after my one canned response, but...

Most people who bottom post *do* *not* *do* *so* *mindlessly*.

Yes, there are the occasional newbies to Thunderbird (which defaults to
bottom posting), but they usually get 'assistance' pretty quick because
reading their replies is painful...

As I said, my biggest peeve are those who mindlessly and vainly attempt
to defend their uncontrolled (whether bottom or top) posting, and
totally ignore the entire point of trimming your posts to make them
readable and on point.

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Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?

[Tanstaafl]

On 2010-02-14 4:22 PM, David B Teague wrote:
> Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and
> that it runs as well as 3.1?  Any problems? One sentence would do. Even
> a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK.

Seems to be *much* faster than 3.1.1, and I haven't run into any
problems yet.

I'm really, really happy to finally see the 'Insert into merged ranges'
capability, this was long overdue - thanks devs!! 3.2 is shaping up to
be one of the best releases yet... :)

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Re: [users] Re: Making a newly installed OOo 3.2 the default over OOo 3.1 in Ubuntu

[M Henri Day]

2010/2/15 NoOp 

> On 02/14/2010 04:48 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
> > 2010/2/14 NoOp 
> >
> >> On 02/13/2010 08:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
> >> > On 02/13/2010 12:15 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
> >> >> 2010/2/13 NoOp ...
> >> >
> >> >>> Then you didn't actually uninstall 3.1, or you didn't install 3.2.
> >> >>> Please provide details on *exactly* what and how you installed.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Here below, NoOp, the gory details :
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Downloaded
> «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz»
> >> >> package to my Downloads directory.
> >> >> 2) Opened the Synaptic package manager and uninstalled v 3.2.0rc4.
> >> >> 3) Extacted the contents
> >> >> of «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz» to a
> folder
> >> >> called «OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483» in my home directory.
> >> >> 4) Opened a terminal, cd-ed into
> >> ../OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483/DEBS
> >> >> 5) Installed the Debs files via «sudo dpkg -i *.deb».
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> After checking to see that the new installation was up and running, I
> >> went
> >> >> back to Synaptic and uninstalled all the «ooobasis-dev3.1...» files
> >> found
> >> >> there. Despite this, as noted above, both .odt and .doc files open in
> >> OOo
> >> >> 3.1, as do .pps files. In addition to the
> >> «OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483»
> >> >> folder mentioned above, the earlier
> «OOO310_m11_native_packed-3_sv.9399»
> >> >> folder still is found in my home directory ; would removing the
> latter
> >> >> resolve the problem ?...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > A few points:
> >> >
> >> > 1. You don't need to uninstall (U)OOo, it will reside nicely
> >> > side-by-side with standard OOo. There is a trick to this though... you
> >> > need to modify the (S)OOo file to to use an alternate profile to the
> >> > (U)OOo. This is what I do:
> >> >
> >> > - First set write permissions on /opt/openoffice.org3/bootstraprc
> >> >
> >> > $ sudo chmod +w /opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc
> >> >
> >> > - Modify that file to:
> >> >   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
> >>
> >> Correction:
> >> - Modify that file *from*:
> >>   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
> >> to
> >>   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
> >>
> >
> > NoOp, thanks for your detailed reply ! My write-protected
> > «/opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc» file looked like this :
> >
> > [Bootstrap]
> > BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
> > InstallMode=
> > ProductKey=OpenOffice.org 3.2
> > UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3
> > [ErrorReport]
> > ErrorReportPort=80
> > ErrorReportServer=report.services.openoffice.org
> >
> > I tried to use the «chmod» command you suggested above, but for some
> strange
> > reason, I couldn't get the «+w» option to take, so I decided to run «sudo
> > chmod 777 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
> > bootstraprc» instead - an elephant gun to shoot mosquitoes, perhaps, but
> it
> > worked. When I open the file, I now see
> «UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.
> > openoffice.org/3/3».
>
> 
> Correction:
> - Modify that file *from*:
>  'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
> to
>   'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
> 
>
> > However, despite this change, when I click an .odt or a
> > .doc file, it still opens in Writer in OOo 3.1 ! A piece of information
> > which may or not be useful in this context is that the command which
> opens
> > OOo 3.2 is «/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice». Hope you can suggest a
> > way out - I can work around the problem easily enough, by first opening
> OOo
> > 3.2 and then opening my files from within Writer, but it irritates me
> that I
> > can't change the default
>
> Perhaps you missed the part about setting your defaults in Nautilus?
>

Indeed, I had ! After rereading your instructions, I assigned .odt, .doc.,
and .docx files to «swriter» and .ppt and .pps files to «simpress» and all
my documents of these types are now opening in OOo 3.2. Thanks, NoOp, I knew
that I could count on you to resolve the problem. Hope others in a similar
situation find our discussion above useful !...

Henri

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Re: [users] Page Background Does Not Export to PDF with oo3.2

[Guy Voets]

2010/2/12 Gene Kohlenberg :
> I just exported a letter to PDF and find that with oo3.2.0, OOO320m12
> (Build:9483) using XP Media Center with service pack 3 the background does
> not appear in the PDF file.  I can't find an option to turn it on or off as
> is possible when sending a document to a printer.  Is this a new bug?  I
> exported the same file using oo3.1.1 on another computer and the background
> is exported.

Hello,

Can't confirm this with OOo 3.2 (m12 9483) on Mac Leopard.
Prints PDF with background as required.
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[users] OOo Writer not seeing newly installed fonts

[Dotan Cohen]

In Kubuntu 9.10 with OOo 3.1, Writer is not letting me use
newly-installed fonts. I did reset the computer after installing the
fonts. The gucharmap application shows that the font is correctly
installed and accessible, but Writer does not list it in the list of
fonts. I do not see the problem addressed in the Font-FAQ of the OOo
wiki.

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