[users] Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript

2012-01-24 Thread John Jason Jordan
Twice I tried to send this to the new list, and both times it bounced.
I give up on the new list.

Libreoffice 3.4.4 on Fedora 16, x86_64.
Printer: Laserjet 4M+ (Postscript Level 2)

I used OOo for many years and never had this problem until I switched
to Libreoffice.

Whenever I print to this printer I must remember to go into Properties
Options  Device and change the print type from PDF to Postscript. If
I do not the text will fail to be kerned according to the font metrics;
that is, a proportional font will be spaced as though it was a
monospace font.

All other applications print fine. There is no setting for this in the
driver, which uses a PPD file.

I looked everywhere for a setting to set it to use Postscript as the
default, but I can't find it.

It is extra work to have to change this setting all the time. And
usually I forget to change the setting and have to print the page again
after I realize that I forgot. This is very annoying, and it wastes
paper, toner and electricity.

I really hope someone can tell me how to change the default behavior,
else I will have to remove Libreoffice and reinstall OOo.
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[users] Re: Is this list now death?

2011-12-13 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 00:17:23 +0100
Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net dijo:

Hello *,

the last message I have gotten,  was  from  2011-11-30  and  since
then nothing anymore.  So, this is a testmail whether I am
subscribed  (with my second mail) or not.

You are subscribed, but there is a new list.

I subscribed to the new list, but receive practically no messages from
it. I don't know where all the traffic that used to be here has gone.
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[users] Re:

2011-09-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:42:05 -0700 (PDT)
J C Jackson msjackson_2...@yahoo.com dijo:

Let me start by saying, I am very disappointed in this program suite.
OpenOffice came with my computer when I bought it from a refurb store.
I have tried several times to update OO, since last year! Today when I
took a chance to try it again, it downloaded the file just for it to
give me some .msi error and roll back I guess to the previous version.
Now I am jumping through hoops just to get support with you all. I
looked on Oracle no straight forward answer, (I do not know how I got
their by the way, I did not even know OpenOffice was under Oracle)Then
when I finally was able to get to the OpenOffice website, that for
some reason would never load. I try to register cannot get in or I
have a username and password but it takes me to another site and
knocks me out. 

I do not have time for this, can you just send me a CD?

Janeen,

There are a lot of things that you are unaware of, so let me start with
a bit of background.

OpenOffice was started 10-15 years or so ago by a German company. They
didn't get very far with it, and after a couple years they sold it to
Sun Microsystems. Sun makes heavy duty computers and operating systems
for large corporations, and Sun thought it would be cool to offer an
office suite with their software packages. But in order to get more
development going with OpenOffice Sun made the code free open source
software. It is critical that you understand what that means. It means
that Sun owned the code, but anyone was free to contribute to it,
modify it, or do anything they wanted to with it. 

Since those early days thousands of developers worldwide have
contributed to OpenOffice, all without pay. The software remains free.
But in the world of FOSS (free open source software) everyone is
expected to do something to help the cause. In my case I answer
questions on a mailing list. But you are not required to contribute,
it's just nice if you can. At the risk of sounding like a communist,
it's from each according to his ability, to each according to his
need.

OpenOffice was recently forked into LibreOffice, although OpenOffice
remains a viable alternative. In the FOSS world sometimes a group of
developers in a project decide they don't like the direction the
project is going, so they split off and create a new variation on the
software. In the case of LibreOffice, there were lots of issues, but
the chief issue was discontent with Sun Microsystems. And, of all
things, in the middle of the split Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems in
another one of those Wall Street mergers designed to make money for
stockbrokers and attorneys. OpenOffice / LibreOffice will remain FOSS,
but how the whole scenario will play out is up in the air. At the
moment it doesn't matter much which one you use because so far there is
practically no difference between them. Either can open the other's
files and everything is completely compatible. 

Now, the upshot of all this is that you have posted a request to a
public mailing list that someone send you a CD. Unfortunately, this
list is made up of people like me who volunteer their time. There is no
company behind this list. There are no company employees who will see
your e-mail and immediately send you a CD. (Besides, you didn't say
where to send it.)

I also volunteer to help people with the Linux operating system. From
past experience, I think you would be far better served if you can find
someone local who uses OpenOffice and can come to your place to get it
installed and working for you. If you lived in my city I would be happy
to meet with you to get it installed and running on your computer. But
trying to help you by sending e-mails back and forth is going to be
frustrating. I'm still game to try, if that is the only option, but try
to see if you can find some local people who know about OpenOffice.

I hope that helps. :)
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[users] Writer can't do arithmetic?

2011-08-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64.

I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary
math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number
of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth
column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a
formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much
gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate
the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the
first line as an example:

A   B   C   D   E   F
AGCO200 43.20   41.25   0.000.00

The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not
generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer
is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is
=sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00.

All columns except A are set to general number format.

I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct
answers. Any help is welcome.
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[users] Re: Writer can't do arithmetic?

2011-08-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:28:14 +0100
openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com dijo:

In writer, it appears the cell references need to be surrounded in
angle brackets, i.e. for E use =(D1-C1)*B1 and for F use
=B1*D1. The sum() function is not needed in this case - it is
useful if you have a range of cells whose values you want to add, e.g.
=sum(A1:A5).

The brackets! That was the secret that I was missing. 

Thanks!

(And yes, there is a reason I am doing the table in a Writer document
and not in Calc.)
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[users] Writer can't do arithmetic?

2011-08-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64.

I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary
math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number
of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth
column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a
formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much
gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate
the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the
first line as an example:

A   B   C   D   E   F
AGCO200 43.20   41.25   0.000.00

The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not
generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer
is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is
=sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00.

All columns except A are set to general number format.

I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct
answers. Any help is welcome.
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[users] Re: Writer can't do arithmetic?

2011-08-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:59:08 -0700
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo:

That's what I get for reading by date. I see that JJJ posted this twice
 hadn't read this 10:07 AM thread:

JJJ, Why the multiple posts?

Because I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. My mail client
is set up to use my Comcast e-mail address by default, but I am signed
up for the OOo list with my Gmail address. So I sent the e-mail first
without realizing that I had sent it from my Comcast address. When it
didn't show up after half an hour or so I realized my error and resent
it using my Gmail address. The mail from the Gmail address was posted
immediately and I quickly learned how to solve the formula problem.
Later the post from the Comcast account finally showed up.

Sorry for the confusion. It was all my fault. 
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[users] Can OOo open an .xml file?

2011-06-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
I need an article that was published in volume five of a five volume set
The Blackwell companion to syntax. I had to order the book through
interlibrary loan, and it has arrived. Imagine my surprise to discover
that, instead of receiving volume five, I received a CD.

Nautilus opened the CD just fine on my Fedora 14 x86_64 computer. And
the article I need is right there in the file browser window. However,
it is titled Chapter 75 - Verb particle constructions.xml.

Double-clicking on it made Fedora try to open it in Gedit. That was not
a good choice. Then I dimly recalled that OOo uses xml, so I tried
opening it in Writer. Writer opened it, but all I got was pages and
pages of what looks like code, interspersed with what appears to be the
text of the article. It's there, but an unreadable mess.

Google informs me that xml is Microsoft's new open document format. OK,
I don't have MS Office, but back I go to OOo for further checking. It
turns out that in OOo (3.3, from OOo, not Fedora repos) I can do File 
Open New  XML document. However, there appears no way to open an
existing xml file. 

So now I'm all gestumped. 

I could always schlep the CD back to the university, open it on a
university computer that has MS Office, and save as something else. But
surely I won't have to do that. 

Does anyone have any suggestions? Can OOo import the file so it is
readable?
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[users] Re: Can OOo open an .xml file?

2011-06-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:42:56 -0700
RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo:

 Double-clicking on it made Fedora try to open it in Gedit. That was
 not a good choice. Then I dimly recalled that OOo uses xml, so I
 tried opening it in Writer. Writer opened it, but all I got was
 pages and pages of what looks like code, interspersed with what
 appears to be the text of the article. It's there, but an unreadable
 mess.
 
 Google informs me that xml is Microsoft's new open document format.
 OK, I don't have MS Office, but back I go to OOo for further
 checking. It turns out that in OOo (3.3, from OOo, not Fedora repos)
 I can do File  Open New  XML document. However, there appears no
 way to open an existing xml file. 
 
 So now I'm all gestumped. 
 
 I could always schlep the CD back to the university, open it on a
 university computer that has MS Office, and save as something else.
 But surely I won't have to do that. 
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions? Can OOo import the file so it is
 readable?

Do you have access to Kword?  Just tried and it views an xml file
without the coding that you describe.  I am looking to install some
other xml editors and see what they do.

I didn't have Kword, but now I do. :)

However, Kword won't open the file. All I get is errors like wrong
file type. I tried File  Open, File  Import and dragging and
dropping the file onto Kword. I also tried right-clicking on the file
in Nautilus and selecting Open With  Kword. 

Someone else suggesting making a copy of the file and renaming it to
*.docx. Renaming the copy was easy enough, but Kword won't open it, and
OOo opens it as code with the text interspersed.

But thanks for the suggestion, even if it didn't work!
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[users] Copy and paste from Calc to Writer

2011-06-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
Fedora 14 x86_64; OOo 3.3 (from OOo, not from repository).

I have used Writer for years and am pretty adept at it. But I doubt I
have launched Calc more than once a year, and then only to open an
Excel file that someone sent me.

I needed to tabulate some expenses by year for the years 1996-2011,
about 20 to 100 expenses for each year. I thought it would be easier to
do in Calc than in a Writer table. I finished 1996 and there are 35
rows. I tried to use Sheet 2 for 1997, but couldn't figure out how to
transfer the row and column formatting from Sheet 1 (1996), so I gave
up and decided just to use Writer tables. It took me a lot of work to
format the cells in Sheet 1 and I was trying to avoid having to
duplicate the effort for Sheet 2.

I tried to get the data into Writer where I understand better how to
do things, but I can't get the data from Calc into Writer as a Writer
table. I can select the cells in Calc and copy to the clipboard, but
when I paste into Writer it comes in as a graphic, not as a table. 

How can get the data into Writer as text or as a Writer table?
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[users] Copy and paste from Calc to Writer

2011-06-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
Fedora 14 x86_64; OOo 3.3 (from OOo, not from repository).

I have used Writer for years and am pretty adept at it. But I doubt I
have launched Calc more than once a year, and then only to open an
Excel file that someone sent me.

I needed to tabulate some expenses by year for the years 1996-2011,
about 20 to 100 expenses for each year. I thought it would be easier to
do in Calc than in a Writer table. I finished 1996 and there are 35
rows. I tried to use Sheet 2 for 1997, but couldn't figure out how to
transfer the row and column formatting from Sheet 1 (1996), so I gave
up and decided just to use Writer tables. It took me a lot of work to
format the cells in Sheet 1 and I was trying to avoid having to
duplicate the effort for Sheet 2.

I tried to get the data into Writer where I understand better how to
do things, but I can't get the data from Calc into Writer as a Writer
table. I can select the cells in Calc and copy to the clipboard, but
when I paste into Writer it comes in as a graphic, not as a table. 

How can get the data into Writer as text or as a Writer table?
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[users] Re: Copy and paste from Calc to Writer

2011-06-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:57:19 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

How can get the data into Writer as text or as a Writer table?

Never mind. Paste Special  Unformatted text. Oddly, the first time I
tried this it didn't work. Now it does. Oh well. Just pay no attention
to anything said here by the blond boy.
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[users] Re: Copy and paste from Calc to Writer

2011-06-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:53:37 -0400
Richard Detwiler rldetwi...@frontiernet.net dijo:

On 6/27/2011 5:57 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 

 I finished 1996 and there are 35
 rows. I tried to use Sheet 2 for 1997, but couldn't figure out how to
 transfer the row and column formatting from Sheet 1 (1996), so I gave
 up and decided just to use Writer tables. It took me a lot of work to
 format the cells in Sheet 1 and I was trying to avoid having to
 duplicate the effort for Sheet 2.

The easiest way to do what you had tried to do in Calc would be to
copy Sheet1 (1996) to a new sheet.

Two ways to do this are:

Is there any way to punch just the formatting through from Sheet 1 to
Sheets 2-12?

I ask that just for future reference. I am doing it all in Writer now
and I am much happier. Along the way I remembered the difficulties I
have had in the past trying to print from Calc. At least in Writer I
know where the page margins are.
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[users] Changing footnote superscript

2011-06-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3 on Fedora 14, x86_64. The OOo is downloaded from
Openoffice.org, not the version in the Fedora repositories.


The superscript for a footnote is too small and too high. Selecting the
footnote number and changing it with text formatting does not change
it. I can't find any other place to change it. I can change the size
and position of superscripts anywhere else either by directly applying
character attributes or by modifying the style, but there seems to be
no way to change the appearance of the superscript character for a
footnote.

Note that I am talking about the number that appears in the paragraph,
not the number that appears in the footnote at the bottom of the page.
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[users] Re: Changing footnote superscript

2011-06-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:28:25 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

OOo 3.3 on Fedora 14, x86_64. The OOo is downloaded from
Openoffice.org, not the version in the Fedora repositories.


The superscript for a footnote is too small and too high. Selecting the
footnote number and changing it with text formatting does not change
it. I can't find any other place to change it. I can change the size
and position of superscripts anywhere else either by directly applying
character attributes or by modifying the style, but there seems to be
no way to change the appearance of the superscript character for a
footnote.

Note that I am talking about the number that appears in the paragraph,
not the number that appears in the footnote at the bottom of the page.

Never mind. I finally found it. They are character styles. After
modifying the character style for Footnote Anchor the footnote number
now appears correctly.
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[users] Left and right pages

2011-06-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 (from Openoffice.org) on Fedora 14, x86_64.

I can't believe I am unable to figure out how to do this. 

I need a header that alternates on left and right pages. 

I tried using the page style Right Page, but the header tab has a
grayed out checkbox for Same Content Right/Left. I can't uncheck it.

I tried creating new page styles, which allows me to uncheck the Same
Content Right/Left checkbox for the new left page style, but not for
the new right page style.

I can't find a document setup option where I can specify right and
left facing pages. 

Obviously I am not looking in the right place. What is the secret for
alternating right and left pages?
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[users] Can I tweak word completion?

2011-05-25 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64.

Word completion is not working very well. 

1) It takes words from text that is pasted in from other sources. This
adds a lot of words that I will never actually type myself. Is there a
way to tell it to take just words that I type?

2) It is constantly adding typographical errors that I type, and
frequently parts of words, or numbers and parts of numbers. E.g.,
perusing the list in Tools  Autocorrect  Word Completion I find
entries like verb-ADVERB (a typo where I hit the caps-lock key before
the A), Collins2000 (an incorrect citation added by Zotero) and
692 (a number that I typed in a table). 

A solution would be to tell it not to accept a word unless I tell it to
do so manually after typing it, like a keystroke shortcut that I can
use right after typing a word. That way I can make it keep only the
words that I really need it to save and eliminate the trash. I can't
find this option, or any other way to make it less annoying.
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[users] Can I tweak word completion?

2011-05-25 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64.

Word completion is not working very well. 

1) It takes words from text that is pasted in from other sources. This
adds a lot of words that I will never actually type myself. Is there a
way to tell it to take just words that I type?

2) It is constantly adding typographical errors that I type, and
frequently parts of words, or numbers and parts of numbers. E.g.,
perusing the list in Tools  Autocorrect  Word Completion I find
entries like verb-ADVERB (a typo where I hit the caps-lock key before
the A), Collins2000 (an incorrect citation added by Zotero) and
692 (a number that I typed in a table). 

A solution would be to tell it not to accept a word unless I tell it to
do so manually after typing it, like a keystroke shortcut that I can
use right after typing a word. That way I can make it keep only the
words that I really need it to save and eliminate the trash. I can't
find this option, or any other way to make it less annoying.
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[users] File New Text Document not using default template

2011-05-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. This is not the OOo from the
Fedora repositories.

Every time I open a new document with File  New  Text Document I have
to go into the Styles menu and change the line spacing from Single to
Fixed, 14 pt. The Default style in Default.ott is set to Fixed, 14 pt,
so apparently OOo is not using Default.ott for the default template. 

Going into File  Templates  Edit shows the Default.ott template as
located in ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. I can't find any other
Default template. In Tools  Options  Paths the path for templates is
~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. 

However, when I go into File  New  Templates and Documents I get a
dialog box with icons on the left for New Document, Templates, My
Documents, and Samples. The Default.ott template is in Templates. But
in New Document there is a Text Document template. Opening a new file
with that template gives me the incorrect style information. So
apparently this is the template that is being used for File  New  Text
Document.

Unfortunately, I can't find a way to edit the Text Document template.
The Edit button is grayed out. 

Surely there is a way to change the default style for the new document
template. Can someone tell me how?
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[users] Re: File New Text Document not using default template

2011-05-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:56:09 -0700
RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo:

John Jason Jordan wrote:
 OOo 3.3.0 from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. This is not the OOo from the
 Fedora repositories.

 Every time I open a new document with File  New  Text Document I
 have to go into the Styles menu and change the line spacing from
 Single to Fixed, 14 pt. The Default style in Default.ott is set to
 Fixed, 14 pt, so apparently OOo is not using Default.ott for the
 default template.

 Going into File  Templates  Edit shows the Default.ott template as
 located in ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. I can't find any other
 Default template. In Tools  Options  Paths the path for templates
 is ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template.

 However, when I go into File  New  Templates and Documents I get a
 dialog box with icons on the left for New Document, Templates, My
 Documents, and Samples. The Default.ott template is in Templates. But
 in New Document there is a Text Document template. Opening a new file
 with that template gives me the incorrect style information. So
 apparently this is the template that is being used for File  New
 Text Document.

 Unfortunately, I can't find a way to edit the Text Document template.
 The Edit button is grayed out.

 Surely there is a way to change the default style for the new
 document template. Can someone tell me how?

If you open the Default template that is shown in the Templates 
directory, does it have the settings you wish?  If so then from a
blank document do File Templates Organize .  In the pop-up window on
the left site select the Default template.  On the right side use the 
Command button then select Set as default template.  Just having the 
template named Default does not make it the default that is used.

Thanks!
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[users] Stop table toolbar from popping up

2011-05-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
I had this fixed, but I had to upgrade 3.2.1 to 3.3.0, and in the
process had to create a new ~/.openoffice.org folder. Now, every time I
put the cursor in a table the damn table toolbar pops up. I have
forgotten how to make it stay away permanently. Can anyone remind me?
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[users] Can't get rid of word completion entries

2011-05-16 Thread John Jason Jordan
This is OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14 x86_64. OOo is from openoffice.org, not
from the Fedora repositories.

I keep deleting them in Tools  AutoCorrect Options  Word Completion.
Initially they stay away, but eventually they come back. And it's not
because I have retyped them; for example, many are typos.

Where are they coming from? 
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[users] Re: How to turn off automatic numbering permanently?

2011-05-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:41:16 +0100
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

 but now I can't find the 
setting in Tools  Options to turn it off permanently again.

That's because it's not in Tools | Options... !

Can someone please point out where the setting is?

Remove the tick from Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options | Apply 
numbering - symbol: *.

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[users] Automatic URL recognition

2011-05-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools  AutoCorrect  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, yet
Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there something
else that I need to uncheck somewhere?
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[users] Re: Automatic URL recognition

2011-05-15 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:38:23 +0100
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 10:22 15/05/2011 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories.

In Tools  AutoCorrect  Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, 
yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there 
something else that I need to uncheck somewhere?

There are two boxes against URL Recognition, one for typing and the 
other for modifying.  Have you unticked both - or the appropriate one 
for your purposes?

Yes, both boxes are unchecked.

It does not underline and make clickable a link that I type. But if
there is a link in text copied and pasted into the Writer document it
still underlines it and makes it clickable. This happens even if I
paste special. The only way to get rid of it is to take the time to go
to Format  Default Formatting. Even just double-clicking on the
paragraph style in the Styles toolbar does not change it; I have to go
to Format  Default Formatting to get rid of it. It is time-consuming
and annoying, especially considering that I use Writer only for writing
academic papers that will be printed on paper. As far as I know there
is no way to click on a paper document, yet the underlining and colored
text still appear on the paper.
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[users] Where are my dictionary additions?

2011-05-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.3.0 (from OOo) on Fedora
14, x86_64. Over the years I have added a lot of technical terms of my
field, as well as names of people who I often cite.

During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 it became necessary to abandon my
old ~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old
folder is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied years of
Autocorrect entries to the new folder, as well as numerous other
settings. But my spell checker now flags things that I know I added to
my custom dictionary settings.

Where are my dictionary additions and how can I restore them?
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[users] How to turn off automatic numbering permanently?

2011-05-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 to 3.3.0 (from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 14 x86_64) it became necessary to abandon my old
~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old folder
is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied many settings from the
old folder, but now if I hit Enter at the end of a paragraph that is
numbered Writer is assuming that I want the next paragraph numbered as
well. I had this permanently turned off before, but now I can't find the
setting in Tools  Options to turn it off permanently again.

Can someone please point out where the setting is?
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[users] (SOLVED) Re: Re: Where are my dictionary additions?

2011-05-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 14 May 2011 19:40:22 -0700
RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo:

John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.3.0 (from OOo) on Fedora
 14, x86_64. Over the years I have added a lot of technical terms of
 my field, as well as names of people who I often cite.

 During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 it became necessary to abandon my
 old ~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old
 folder is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied years of
 Autocorrect entries to the new folder, as well as numerous other
 settings. But my spell checker now flags things that I know I added
 to my custom dictionary settings.

 Where are my dictionary additions and how can I restore them?

Look in the ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/wordbook .

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[users] OOo minimizes to the panel, but can't restore to the screen

2011-05-13 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.3.0 installed a couple of days ago on Fedora 14 x86_64, up to
date. OOo is from www.openoffice.org, not from the Fedora repositories.
It replaces OOo 3.2.1, also from www.openoffice.org, removed first with
yum remove openoffice.

I can minimize a document to the Gnome panel, but nothing I can do will
restore the document to the screen. I have to close it and then restart
OOo.

Since forever OOo has had problems with the Gnome desktop. In the past
the problem was just that it never gained focus when restored from the
panel. You had to click on the window to give it focus. However, this is
new, and renders OOo almost unusable.

Please, someone, tell me this is a setting somewhere that I can fix.
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[users] Help! Zotero is broken!

2011-05-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have been using Zotero for years; currently on Fedora 14, x86_64, up
to date. I was using OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, not from the Fedora
repositories), but after encountering problems with Zotero I
uninstalled 3.2.1 and installed 3.3.0, again from OOo. Unfortunately,
the problems remain the same as they were with 3.2.1.

I have no problem with Zotero in Firefox. I can add and edit entries
without problem. But attempting to use Zotero in OOo crashes OOo. That
is, I can open the Zotero toolbar, but clicking on any of the icons
crashes OOo. 

I went into Tools  Extension Manager and clicked on Check for Updates,
but it said there were no updates for the Zotero addon, which is
version 3.5a1. Then I attempted to uninstall the Zotero extension, but
that crashes OOo also. And it crashes OOo without uninstalling the
extension, so when I relaunch OOo the extension is still installed.
This happened with 3.2.1 and continues to happen with 3.3.0.

I have a paper due in a week and I need to get Zotero working again
ASAP. Any help or suggestions welcome!
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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is
 the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora
 repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.
 
 After installing it I added:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
 constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
 available.
 
 All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
 announced that:
 
 openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on
 this package, but I added:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*

openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
excluding. The following line works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the package. I
have tried:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure
exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a long
time:

exclude=openoffice.org*

And the Software Update utility still shows:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

As available for update.
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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:25:47 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

Hello John,

On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300
 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:
 On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
  I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64.
  This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the
  Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.
  
  After installing it I added:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org*
  
  To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
  constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
  available.
  
  All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
  announced that:
  
  openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
  
  Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not
  work on this package, but I added:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 
 openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
 excluding. The following line works fine:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the
 package. I have tried:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a
 long time:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 And the Software Update utility still shows:
 
 openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 As available for update.

this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is
the only one that conflicts in version mumber.

On the notebook I have this line only:

exclude=openoffice*

and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3).
Try if it works leaving only that line.

OK, I am figuring something out here, except I'm not sure exactly how
it works. Apparently the /etc/yum.conf file can contain only a certain
number of exclude lines, and maybe they have to be in a certain order.
Or something.

I actually have two things I want to exclude: One is anything relating
to OOo, and the other is anything related to VLGothic fonts (for
Japanese). 

I've tried all kinds of exclude lines, and no combination can seem to
exclude everything. For years I had just:

exclude=openoffice.org*

Then I added just a few days ago:

exclude=VLGothic-fonts-*

After adding the VLGothic line is when the Software Update GUI started
showing me the openoffice.org-ure package. My current theory is that
it reads only the last exclude line and disregards all exclude lines
before it. Here is the exact total of my /etc/yum.conf file:

---
[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
keepcache=0
debuglevel=2
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
exactarch=1
obsoletes=1
gpgcheck=1
plugins=1
installonly_limit=3

#  This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the
metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of
not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not
having correct # information.
#  It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions
like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like
this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better
to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour
(yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m

# PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo
# in /etc/yum.repos.d

#exclude=openoffice.org*
#exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
#exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
#exclude=VLGothic-fonts-*
exclude=openoffice*
exclude=VLGothic*
---

And with the above settings the Software Update utility presents me
with the openoffice.org-ure package, but not the VLGothic fonts package.
If I reverse the last two exclude lines it shows me the VLGothic fonts
package, but not the openoffice.org-ure package.

So perhaps there is a bug in the way the Software Update utility reads
the file, or in Yum, or someplace. Or maybe I need to change a setting
somewhere to make it respect all the exclude lines. Or something else
is wrong.

At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but if
anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work
in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know.
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[users] Re: (SOLVED) Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:07:49 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

 At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but
 if anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work
 in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know.

try man yum.conf

exclude List of packages to exclude from updates or installs. This
should be a space separated list.  Shell globs using wildcards (eg. *
and ?) are allowed.

notice the space separated list.
So yours should be

exclude=openoffice* VLGothic*

That worked!

I didn't know there was a man page for yum.conf. Thanks for figuring it
out for me!
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[users] What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is
the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos.
I do not wish to upgrade it.

After installing it I added:

exclude=openoffice.org* 

To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available. 

All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced
that:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on
this package, but I added:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*

To the /etc/yum.conf file anyway. However, it had no effect. Software
Update still stubbornly insists that I must install this update. 

In the Software Update GUI the package is titled UNO Runtime
Environment. 

How can I get the Software Update utility to leave me alone? And please
note that I am aware that there are later versions of OOo available,
but I am not interested. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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[users] What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is
the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos.
I do not wish to upgrade it.

After installing it I added:

exclude=openoffice.org* 

To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available. 

All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced
that:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on
this package, but I added:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*

To the /etc/yum.conf file anyway. However, it had no effect. Software
Update still stubbornly insists that I must install this update. 

In the Software Update GUI the package is titled UNO Runtime
Environment. 

How can I get the Software Update utility to leave me alone? And please
note that I am aware that there are later versions of OOo available,
but I am not interested. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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[users] Re: Bibliographic database in writer.

2011-03-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:29:09 -0400
E. Paul Wileyto e...@mail.med.upenn.edu dijo:

Is there any way to import entries to the bibliographic database from 
EndNote, or one of the other bibliographic formats?

I don't know if there is a way to import from EndNote, but I do know
that Zotero is awesome for academic citations and references.

Zotero is composed of two plugins: One for Firefox (doesn't work with
any other browser), and the other for either MS Word or OOo Writer.
Zotero maintains your reference list on your own computer, but viewing
it is web based (hence the Firefox plugin). You can enter items
manually or by clicking on a Zotero icon on a web page where the work
is listed (Amazon, your school library, etc.). Having added the
references, the Writer plugin adds a Zotero toolbar that allows you to
enter citations from your references list. At the end you can generate
a references list from all the citations used in the document. The
references list can be in any standard format (APA, PMLA, etc.). The
Writer plugin takes care of all the formatting, although occasionally I
have had to tweak an entry.
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[users] Re: Zotero

2011-03-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:04:28 +0100
Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl dijo:

Hi,
It is after 3 years that I again pose a problem on this list.
I'm using Open Office 3.2 with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx (10.04) on a 64-bit 
system. I'm writing a book for which I need to make a bibliography.
Several users promoted zotero as an ideal bibliography instrument. I 
installed it, even succeeded to install the add-on in OO and see the 
plug-in installed in the ad-ins list. However, the promised buttons
are nowhere to see in my open office display.
Can anybody help me to get the zotero buttons on my OO-window. I need
it rather urgently as I am stuck with a load of references which I
want to organize.

Try View  Toolbars  Add-on 4.

You can ask me why they called it Add-on 4 instead of Zotero, but
if I gave you an answer I'd have to make it up.
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Re: [users] Re: Re: What happened to my dictionaries?

2011-02-09 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 07:22:00 +0100
Thomas Lange thomas.la...@oracle.com dijo:


Hi all,

For the details about what language entries get listed can be found in
the following spec
http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.odt

in the section named 'Dynamic Language List Generation for Context
Menu'.

 Regardless of which I select, the language options change.
 English is always available, as are None - Do not check
 spelling and
...
 Sometimes when I go into Tools  Language I get the option of
 English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes),
 never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is
 no consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary
 installed.
...
 At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the
 Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes
 no difference. The only way I can create a new document with the
 Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have
 Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the
 menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text.
...
 Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
 anyone have any idea what to look for?

There is nothing messed up. From your description above it still looks
like everything works as designed.

For the details about what language entries get listed those can be
found in the following spec
http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.odt

in the section named 'Dynamic Language List Generation for Context
Menu'.

The list of languages displayed is populated considereing various OOo
user settings, the text at the cursor position (i.e. language guessing,
which can even suggest languages that are not installed), the languages
already used in the document, and for Windows the keyboard language as
well. Please note that the shorter a text is the more likely it is for
language guessing to fail an suggest seemingly arbitrary languages.

Aside from that it is as has already been said: to create a document in
a specific language either go to 'ToolsOptionsLanguage
SettingsLanguages' or use the 'For all text' entry from
Settings'ToolsLanguages'.

Thank you. Now I understand at least why Portuguese kept appearing in
the list under Tools  Language  For All Text, even though I have no
Portuguese dictionaries installed. Apparently it is language
guessing, and it guesses regardless of whether you have a dictionary
installed for the language it is guessing. I just tried it and you can
even set the entire document to a language without ever installing a
dictionary for that language. Not sure what the purpose would be,
though.

However, I still can't believe it takes six mouse clicks and seven or
eight more in scrolling to set the language of a new document to
Spanish. That is, unless I set the default for new documents to
Spanish, and then it will take six mouse clicks and seven or eight more
in scrolling to set a new document to English. 

I suppose I am supposed to install a keyboard for every language I
write in, as Windows is designed to expect. But I use Linux, where the
compose key makes extra keyboards pretty much unnecessary. So without
installing a Spanish keyboard OOo won't pick up Spanish and display it
as an option in Tools  Language  For All Text.

I also tried experimenting with the language guessing. I opened a new
document in the default (English), then typed a couple sentences in
Spanish. Tools  Language  For All Text then offered me English,
Portuguese, Italian and Catalán, but no Spanish. I guess OOo isn't very
good at guessing.

I suppose I could macro all the mouse clicks, but it seems that the
user interface wasn't designed with ease of use in mind.

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Re: [users] Re: Re: What happened to my dictionaries?

2011-02-08 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:03:55 -
Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com dijo:

 Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
 anyone have any idea what to look for?

 If I open a new text document Tools  Language still does not list
 Spanish until I go into Tools  Options  Language Settings and
 select Spanish just for the new document. This is a pain. I can't
 believe this is by design. Whatever dictionaries are installed
 should appear in Tools  Language for all documents all the time.

Under ToolsLangauge there are three options:

1. For all text. If you select this you get taken to the same place as
if you had chosen ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages and we get
into the previous discussion about ticks and superscripted ABC's.

One issue that may be contributing to the problem is that when I go
into Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages under Default
languages for documents  Western English (with ABC tick) is always
selected as the default. I can change it to Spanish (with ABC tick),
but whenever I open a new text document English is always there.
However, at the top of the drop-down [None] is an option. Perhaps if
it would default to [None] I would be able to select a language other
than English from within the document instead of having to go to Tools
Options  Language Settings  Languages. I wish I knew how to get it to
default to [None].

2  3 The other two options, For Selection (greyed out if no text is 
selected) and For Paragraph work the same way:
If you click More (for more languages) you get taken to the pane you
get when you do FormatCharacter. This is because language is a
property of Character (don't ask, I don't understand either). On this
pane click the Font tab and, in the middle of the resulting panel
you'll see Language. Here you now have the same drop down list as
before and the discussion applies about ticks and superscripted ABC's.
Choosing a language here affects the current paragraph or selection
depending on which option you chose.

For 2  3 neither is grayed out, whether text is selected or not. But
all they offer me is English, None, do not check spelling, and
More... The More... choice takes me to the Tools  Options  Language
Settings  Languages dialog box. I also have exactly the same options
when I select For all text.

 Moreover, I have no Portuguese dictionaries installed, yet
 occasionally Tools  Language shows Portuguese as an option.

But I'll bet there's no tick/superscripted ABC.

No, there is not for Portuguese, because I do not have a Portuguese
dictionary installed. That is what is weird. Occasionally (at random)
Portuguese will appear in Tools  Language  (under any of the three
options). 

And sometimes Spanish
 does appear as an option in Tools  Language, even without going into
 Tools  Options  Language Settings.

Perhaps this depends on a recent usage scheme remembered by
Writer ?

Interesting theory. The documentation is silent about such a feature. 

 I think there is something messed up, but I don't know where to look.

Also, at the *bottom* of the Writer window in what I think is called
the Status Bar, are several boxes. Left to right on my system these are
1. An indication of which page I'm in within the document.
2. An indication of what I think is the current page style. Right
clicking on this allows you to select a new page style e.g. Landscape.
3. An indication of the current language. Clicking on this (left or
right click) brings up a list of interesting options. Among these is
one that lets you select the language for the current paragraph or
selection :-) :-) . IMHO this is a much more convenient way of
handling multi-lingual documents. 4-n. Other things irrelevant to this
discussion.

Good point! I practically never look at the status bar, so I was
unaware that you could click on the language displayed there to select
a different one. However, it gives me the same limitations as Tools 
Language, although the only option is Paragraph; it does not offer
Selection or All Text.

I think that part of the confusion here is that the list of languages
is *always* the same. It's in alphabetical order regardless of which 
dictionaries you have installed. The available languages
(available in the sense that you have the dictionary installed and
can therefore do spell checking) are only indicated by the
ticks/superscripted ABCs. I suppose there's an argument for the
available languages to be forced to the top of the list but ...

Yes, I observed that also. It does not bother me that the ABC-ticked
languages are still alphabetically ordered in the list. What bothers me
is that I have to go four layers deep to change the language, and even
then all I can change it for is the current document.

Tools  Language (or clicking on the status bar) should always show all
ABC-ticked languages for Selection, Paragraph, and All Text.

Someone else said that I should rename ~/.openoffice to get a new one,
in order to be sure it is not 

Re: [users] Re: What happened to my dictionaries?

2011-02-07 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:32:54 -
Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com dijo:

John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote in message 
news:20110206180124.35732718@Devil8...
 OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org (not repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

 Under Tools  Language there are three choices:

 For Selection
 For Paragraph
 For All Text

 Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English is
 always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and
 More ...

 Clicking on More... gets me the Language dialog box in Options, which
 allow me to set the language of the User Interface, and of the Locale
 Setting. I can also set the default language for documents. But there
 seems to be no way to set optional dictionaries.

 I have the English, Spanish and French dictionaries installed
 in /opt/openoffice.org3/share/extension/install/.

 Sometimes when I go into Tools  Language I get the option of English
 (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes), never French,
 and sometimes two or three of the above. There is no consistency.
 And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary installed.

 At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the
 Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no
 difference. The only way I can create a new document with the Spanish
 language setting is to open a document that does have Spanish
 language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the menu), save
 under a new name, and delete all the text.

 Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
 anyone have any idea what to look for?

If you go into ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages, then in the
right hand pane is the Default language for documents. The section
there labelled Western has a drop-done box containing a list of
languages. Take a look at that list. Many languages are shown. Some
have a little blue tick (check mark) superscripted to its left by
ABC. The dictionary for a listed language is installed and
recognised on your system *if and only if* that tick/ABC is present
for the language in question.

In that dialog box Spanish - Spain is checked and it has the ABC in
front of it. 

To write a document in Spanish, go to the above menu choice and select 
Spanish from the drop-down list. When you have chosen Spanish from the 
drop-down list check for the tick/ABC. If it's there OK; if not you
need to install the Spanish dictionary extension (I'd kill the
Quickstarter before installing the dictionary and then kill and
restart OOo Writer  Quickstarter afterwards but many on this list
would say that's unnecessary). Once the Spanish dictionary is selected
and *recognised*, choose Only for this document. Spanish spell
checking should now work.

That does work, but apparently I have to go into Tools  Options every
time I want to create a document in Spanish. 

If after all this you still have problems, come back here with more
details.

If I open a new text document Tools  Language still does not list
Spanish until I go into Tools  Options  Language Settings and select
Spanish just for the new document. This is a pain. I can't believe this
is by design. Whatever dictionaries are installed should appear in
Tools  Language for all documents all the time. 

Moreover, I have no Portuguese dictionaries installed, yet occasionally
Tools  Language shows Portuguese as an option. And sometimes Spanish
does appear as an option in Tools  Language, even without going into
Tools  Options  Language Settings.

I think there is something messed up, but I don't know where to look.

Oh, is your OOo the generic one or some special version from a
Fedora repository? I have no idea if this makes a difference in this
case but, from reading this list for a while, it has done in other
areas of OOo's behaviour on different Linuxes (Linices?).

It is OOo 3.2.1, OOO320m18 (Build: 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. It was
installed by downloading from OOo, not from the repositories.

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Re: [users] Re: What happened to my dictionaries?

2011-02-07 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:52:29 +1100
Russell Butler russ...@rj-il-butler.com dijo:

On 08/02/11 04:43, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:32:54 -
 Harold Fuchshwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com  dijo:

 John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  wrote in message
 news:20110206180124.35732718@Devil8...
 OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org (not repositories) on Fedora 14
 x86_64.

 Under Tools  Language there are three choices:

 For Selection
 For Paragraph
 For All Text

 Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English
 is always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and
 More ...

 Clicking on More... gets me the Language dialog box in Options,
 which allow me to set the language of the User Interface, and of
 the Locale Setting. I can also set the default language for
 documents. But there seems to be no way to set optional
 dictionaries.

 I have the English, Spanish and French dictionaries installed
 in /opt/openoffice.org3/share/extension/install/.

 Sometimes when I go into Tools  Language I get the option of
 English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes),
 never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is no
 consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary
 installed.

 At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the
 Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no
 difference. The only way I can create a new document with the
 Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have
 Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the
 menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text.

 Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
 anyone have any idea what to look for?

 That does work, but apparently I have to go into Tools  Options
 every time I want to create a document in Spanish.
 It is OOo 3.2.1, OOO320m18 (Build: 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. It was
 installed by downloading from OOo, not from the repositories.

Just a suggestion, could you make a template with the language set to 
Spanish  and use that for when you want to do a whole new Spanish
document?

Thanks for the suggestion. That does make it a bit easier when the
entire document will be in Spanish. But I still need sometimes to write
different sections of the same document in different languages, so I
still need to be able to get to the Spanish dictionary setting in an
English document.

I still think something is messed up. Either that or the OOo user
interface is hopeless. I can't believe you have to go into Tools 
Options to change a document, and then you can change only the entire
document, not just parts of it. As international as OOo is, this just
can't be true.

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Re: [users] Re: What happened to my dictionaries?

2011-02-07 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:02:33 -0500
Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo:

 You can also use Character styles to write words in different
languages in the same paragraph. You can create custom character styles
to do this just like you can create custom paragraph styles for various
languages.

I use styles all the time, and have many of my own defined. And there
lies the problem with using styles to change the language - I'd have to
duplicate all my styles. And again for other languages. Yes, it could
be done, but it's a clumsy workaround.

Plus, without being able to set text to a language you lose the spell
checker, hyphenation and thesaurus. 

Rather than figure out workarounds I'd like to fix what is wrong with
my OOo so it works like it is supposed to.

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[users] What happened to my dictionaries?

2011-02-06 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org (not repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

Under Tools  Language there are three choices:

For Selection
For Paragraph
For All Text

Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English is
always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and More ...

Clicking on More... gets me the Language dialog box in Options, which
allow me to set the language of the User Interface, and of the Locale
Setting. I can also set the default language for documents. But there
seems to be no way to set optional dictionaries.

I have the English, Spanish and French dictionaries installed
in /opt/openoffice.org3/share/extension/install/. 

Sometimes when I go into Tools  Language I get the option of English
(always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes), never French, and
sometimes two or three of the above. There is no consistency. And note
that there is no Portuguese dictionary installed.

At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the
Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no
difference. The only way I can create a new document with the Spanish
language setting is to open a document that does have Spanish language
set (done once when Spanish appeared in the menu), save under a new
name, and delete all the text.

Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does
anyone have any idea what to look for?

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[users] My files are posted on the net

2011-02-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
I do not wish to post the link publicly, but I just discovered on the
internet an early version of a copyrighted book that I wrote in OOo.
This file never left my computer. In fact, after writing it in OOo I
moved it to Scribus because of limitations in OOo, and then exported as
PDF for printing. 

The first part of the link is www.openoffice.org/servlets/GetAtt...,
which leads me to wonder if one of the numerous extensions and add-ons
has somehow uploaded the file somewhere. I find that very difficult to
believe, but I have no other explanation for how my work became posted
on openoffice.org. 

I also need to find someone who can remove it.

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Re: [users] Managing Spaces

2011-01-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:01:58 -0500
Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com dijo:

On 1/31/2011 1:08 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:10:49 +
 Brian Barkerb.m.bar...@btinternet.com  dijo:


 Hmm. You're right. I never tried it until just now, but it doesn't
 work with spaces.


To search and replace spaces you must use regular expressions and use
[\x0009 ] as the search term for a space and a regular space
(spacebar) for the replace with term.
ie;

Find;  .[\x0009 ][\x0009 ]
Replace with:  .

Note: There is a space after the dot in Replace with.

This works as needed.  (I tested it.)

But it doesn't work in AutoCorrect, presumably because AutoCorrect
doesn't know about regular expressions. 

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Re: [users] Managing Spaces

2011-01-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:32:02 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 16:29 30/01/2011 -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
FYI: Using OO on Linux 10.04. [...]
1) She wants to see a warning mark if there is more than one space 
between a punctuation mark and a following letter.

There are almost no circumstances in which a properly word-processed 
document should have consecutive spaces.  (I'd say none, but I won't 
labour the point.  Oh, and before anyone notices: this e-mail is not 
word-processed but is going out as plain text, so that suggestion 
doesn't apply!)  One thing to do, then, is simply to use Find  
Replace to search for space-space and replace it with space.  If you 
suspect more than two consecutive spaces, either simply repeat the 
search or else search for space-space-plus and replace with space - 
this time ticking Regular expressions, which you will find hidden 
behind More Options.

But if you really want to see what you describe, use Find  Replace, 
again with Regular expressions ticked.  In Search for, enter
something like [.,:;?!]  +
- that's a list of the punctuation marks you are concerned with, 
enclosed in (square) brackets, followed by two spaces and a plus 
sign.  Now click Find All and all your occurrences will be selected 
(and highlighted).  You can close the Find  Replace window to help 
you see what you have found.

2) She wants to be notified if there is a space before or after a
hyphen.

With Regular expressions ticked, search for
  - |- | -
- that's space hyphen space pipe hyphen space pipe space 
hyphen.  Again, click Find All.

3) She wants to treat common abbreviations such as 'Mr.', 'Mrs.', 
'Ms.', 'Inc.' as known words in such a way as - for example - if she 
types ' inc ' (delimited by whitespace) a warning mark would be 
rendered and/or the Spell Checker would catch it.

Use AutoCorrect.  Go to Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Replace, and 
add the individual cases you require.

Actually, AutoCorrect is what I would use for all the issues, not just
' inc '. Typing will be faster because she won't need a notification
of, e.g., a double space after a period, and then have to deal with the
notification, if the 'period plus double space' is simply automatically
corrected to 'period plus space.'

For years I have always used AutoCorrect to add my personal typos as I
make them and the spell checker flags them. Most of my common typos are
now automatically corrected on the fly for me.

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Re: [users] Managing Spaces

2011-01-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:10:49 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 19:55 30/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Actually, AutoCorrect is what I would use for all the issues, not 
just ' inc '. Typing will be faster because she won't need a 
notification of, e.g., a double space after a period, and then have 
to deal with the notification, if the 'period plus double space' is 
simply automatically corrected to 'period plus space.'

I'd imagined that the questioner was talking about existing documents 
with surplus spaces, in fact, not just correcting them as they are 
inadvertently typed.  But for what it's worth, I can't make 
AutoCorrect do this.  Perhaps not surprisingly, entering 
dot-space-space for Replace and dot-space for With doesn't seem to 
produce the desired effect.

Hmm. You're right. I never tried it until just now, but it doesn't
work with spaces.

Under another tab there is an option to Ignore Spaces. I didn't try it,
since that is the opposite of what we want.

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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-24 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:12:37 +0100
M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com dijo:

2011/1/24 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com

 On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:55 +0100
 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com dijo:

  It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you
  did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it
  automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not
  followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt
  was ignored.
 
  I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in
  Writer. I find this surprising.

 In Unix-like operating systems you have the Compose key (at least if
 your desktop environment is Gnome), which is useful for things like
 this. What you do is that you define a Compose key (I use the
 otherwise useless Caps Lock for that, but other options are
 available). It works like this: Press your Compose key → release it
 → press  → release → press O → release → the result is Ö.
 Looks complicated, but just try it. You need to press three keys to
 create an Ö or any of the other characters, like á, ë, œ, Ø, ø and
 so on.

 This is what I was looking for. I assumed it would be in OOo, but
 this is even better because it is system-wide.

 I use Gnome on Fedora 14, but I have never looked at the keyboard
 settings. Using your suggestion I changed the useless Windows key to
 a compose key and now I can get the diacritics I need.

 The only things I am lacking are ¿, and ¡. I can't figure out what
 the secret key is to get those. E.g., for á I type press the Windows
 key, type an apostrophe and then the a. The Windows compose key
 turns the apostophe into a dead key for the acute accent, so the
 secret key is the apostrophe. But I can't figure out what the
 secret keys for ¿ and ¡ are. There must be a table somewhere in the
 Gnome documentation, but I can't find it.

John Jason, on my 105-key standard Scandinavian keyboard with Ubuntu
10.10 installed, «¡» is obtained by holding the «Alt-Gr» key down and
pressing «1» (on my keyboard, «Shift + 1» gives «!») and «¿» by doing
«Alt Gr + Shift + +» (on my keyboard, «Shift + +» gives «?»). Hope
this helps !...

Apparently the Alt-Gr key is enabled when you select the Scandinavian
keyboard. With the US keyboard it is not, but as I discovered you can
set it to any key in System  Preferences  Keyboard  Layouts 
Options. I could have set it to the right Alt key, but I decided to use
the otherwise useless Windows key instead.

As it turns out I finally found the solution. I type the Windows key
*plus the shift key*, then the ? key (which requires shift again).
Ditto for the ¡. 

I finally found the table I was looking for. I don't know why the Gnome
people didn't include it in the Help, but here it is:

http://hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html

There are lots of other things you can do with the Compose key.

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Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula

2011-01-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:26:44 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64.

I need to create a stacked formula that looks 
like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each
side):

 { Ō }
 { Ŏ }
 { Ŭ }
 { AU }

I hope there is someone here who understands the 
formula syntax, because it sure has me confused.

To create the large braces, you need the stack 
instruction and one fewer hash marks:
   left lbrace alignc stack { aaa # b # cc # d } right rbrace

I don't see any way to insert special characters 
in the formula (Math) window itself.  But it is 
perfectly possible to do so in a text (Writer) 
window - which I imagine you are composing in 
anyway - and then copy and paste them into the 
formula window.  By doing this, I have been able 
to create exactly the effect and with the 
characters and diacritics you describe.  You can 
change fonts at Format | Fonts... using Modify.

I trust this helps.

That helped a lot!

It was the stack that I was missing. 

I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. They
work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula. However, I
found a workaround. Using breve in front of the ones with the short
mark and overline on the ones with the macron the result is just
about perfect. Close enough that no one will notice that the breve and
overline in the formula are not exactly the same as the combining
diacritics built into the font.

I just have two small issues left:

1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great. The regular
text in the document is set at 14 points fixed leading, and it would be
great to be able to set the lines in the stack to the same. But it's a
formula, so if the leading doesn't match exactly it's not the end of
the world. But at the moment the lines look like about 20 points, which
looks odd.

2) The AU on the bottom line is kerned too far apart. I tried setting
the kerning with character formatting but, like the other formatting
things I tried, regular text formatting does not work inside a formula.
Is there a way to adjust letter spacing in a formula?

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Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula

2011-01-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:05:52 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 09:50 23/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the 
braces are a single scalable brace on each side):
[...]

I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. 
They work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula.

That's a pity.  Do persevere: they certainly worked for me (3.1.1 on 
Windows XP).  I used the Unicode characters you mentioned, and they 
worked in the default Times New Roman Italic.

While adjusting spacing per your suggestion below I noted that Text
Mode was not checked. I checked it hoping that it would resolve the
problem, but it had no effect. I don't know what Text Mode does,
actually. But the breve and overline work well enough.

I just have two small issues left:
1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great.

Go to Format | Spacing..., under Category select Spacing, and reduce 
the value for Line spacing.

The inter-character spacing was set to 15%. After setting it to 0% the
character spacing is still a little wider than normal text, but so
slightly that I am the only one who would ever notice.

However, the line spacing was already set to 0%, and you can't enter a
negative number. I'm still stuck with too much line spacing. 

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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:55 +0100
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com dijo:

 It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did
 was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it
 automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not
 followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt
 was ignored.

 I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I
 find this surprising.

In Unix-like operating systems you have the Compose key (at least if
your desktop environment is Gnome), which is useful for things like
this. What you do is that you define a Compose key (I use the
otherwise useless Caps Lock for that, but other options are
available). It works like this: Press your Compose key → release it →
press  → release → press O → release → the result is Ö.
Looks complicated, but just try it. You need to press three keys to
create an Ö or any of the other characters, like á, ë, œ, Ø, ø and so
on.

This is what I was looking for. I assumed it would be in OOo, but this
is even better because it is system-wide. 

I use Gnome on Fedora 14, but I have never looked at the keyboard
settings. Using your suggestion I changed the useless Windows key to a
compose key and now I can get the diacritics I need.

The only things I am lacking are ¿, and ¡. I can't figure out what the
secret key is to get those. E.g., for á I type press the Windows key,
type an apostrophe and then the a. The Windows compose key turns the
apostophe into a dead key for the acute accent, so the secret key is
the apostrophe. But I can't figure out what the secret keys for ¿ and
¡ are. There must be a table somewhere in the Gnome documentation,
but I can't find it.

Thanks for the information!

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[users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for
entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by
default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I
do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the
characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot
of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could
just figure out what they are.

I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash
report already sent.)

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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:52:57 -0600
Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com dijo:

On 1/22/2011 6:25 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

 I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for
 entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by
 default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I
 do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the
 characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a
 lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I
 could just figure out what they are.

 I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo.
 (Crash report already sent.)

I haven't had to deal with this, but how about an AutoCorrect that
substitutes the special character given a character pair (or triplet)
that would not ordinarily occur? I can remember long ago something
where if you typed u: (for example), it would create the umlauted u.

I thought of that, but I don't want AutoCorrrect to change the
combination all the time. What if I want to type:

1. The correct item for the task would be a: (a) frying pan, (b) stew
pot, etc.

In the above the a: would get converted to ä. 

I found an extension called Compose Special Character, but it takes
almost as many keystrokes as just typing the Unicode value. 

It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was
type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically
converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of
the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored.

I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I
find this surprising.

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[users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for
entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by
default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I
do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the
characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot
of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could
just figure out what they are.

I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash
report already sent.)

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[users] Help with Insert Object Formula

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64.

I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the
braces are a single scalable brace on each side):

{ Ō }
{ Ŏ }
{ Ŭ }
{ AU }

I need the diacritics over the characters and they must be added with
the combining diacriticals in the font that I am using (Junicode). In
case they didn't make it through the e-mail, the top O has a macron
(U304), the second O and the U have short marks (U306), and the AU has
no diacritics. The font does not contain these characters as combined
glyphs so I must use the combining diacriticals. I cannot switch fonts.

Although it doesn't appear in the e-mail, I need the stack center
aligned.

The best I have accomplished is this syntax:

left lbrace alignc { # ̄ # O ̆ # U ̆ # AU } right rbrace

This gives me a brace only on the bottom element, lots of ? marks,
and an extra blank line in the middle. None of the combining
diacriticals actually combine. Only the second element is center
aligned. 

I hope there is someone here who understands the formula syntax,
because it sure has me confused.

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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:53:15 -0500
webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo:

How often do you need these special characters in your documents?
I remember the Unicode option in Word.  I like OOo's option better
than trying to remember the Unicode number.  You can see the
special letter as your font would show it.

I am working on a document that will be 20 pages of mixed English,
Spanish and German. Insert  Special Character would take forever. 

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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:44:27 -0800
RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo:

Look under Tools- Customise  there you will see a Keyboard tab.  That 
list all the defined Keyboard short cuts and allows for some 
modification.  I am not sure where it will allow what you need but it
is a starting point.

I already looked there. That tab allows you to define keyboard
shortcuts for menu items, not for entering characters. I could macro
the insertion of a character and then apply a shortcut to invoke the
macro. I may end up having to do that, but it's a lot of hassle for
something that I assumed would be built in.

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Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters

2011-01-22 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:45:09 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 16:25 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64.

I've searched and I can't find how to set the 
shortcut keys for entering characters with 
accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. 
E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an 
English document. I do not wish to change to a 
different keyboard. I can enter the characters 
by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you 
have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts 
would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are.

Is 
http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/various_topics/Howto_special_char.pdf
 
any help?

Not really. It does not give any more options than I already knew
about, none of which is very easy to use.

But since it does not give any more options, and it is apparently an
official OOo document, perhaps I can conclude that - as amazing as it
seems to me - OOo does not have the feature I was looking for.

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Re: [users] Re: PDF

2010-12-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:38:41 -0800
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo:

On 12/27/2010 09:31 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
...
 
 Okular (formerly KPDF) does a great job of opening PS files, and can
 save as PDF. You can also enter data in the fields of an editable
 PDF. It has issues with printing, however, although usually I can
 get what I want if I poke at it long enough - e.g., a landscape page
 prints as portrait, among other tribulations.
...

xournal

Does a wonderful job of filling in PDF application forms. I just filled
in a 6 page 'print only PDF'. End result is that it looks like I filled
out the form using an IBM Selectric typewrite :-)

NoOp, you have helped me in the past, and now I must thank you yet
again. What a wonderful tool!

Moreover, I am one of the key promoters of a local Linux Clinic where
we help people install Linux or fix their Linux computers. We have a
semi-regular visitor who has a disability with hand control and needs
to use a keyboard. She complains that she gets PDF files from government
agencies that she has to fill out, but she can't do it in handwriting.
I just turned her onto xournal and she is thrilled. Now she can just
type in the blanks, export as a new PDF, and e-mail it back to the
agency. 

Thanks again!

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Re: [users] PDF

2010-12-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:13:50 +
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk dijo:

On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:20:03 -0800
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello John,

 I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just
 fine.

Strange.  All the reading I did indicated I'd have to install 32bit
versions of the relevant .so files.  Maybe I didn't read enough.

I'm far from an expert on this subject, but after moving from four
years of 64-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit Fedora last year I discovered that
installing 32-bit apps in Fedora is trivial compared to the frequent
hassles in Ubuntu. In fact, frequently the repositories show a 64-bit
and a 32-bit version of the application. Installing 32-bit programs
just works. 

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Re: [users] PDF

2010-12-27 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:54:35 -0500
webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo:

I know that Adobe Reader shows up in the repositories for Ubuntu 10.10
and there are a number of other document viewers in Linux that can read
PDF files.  I use the default Document Viewer for my PDF reading.  Then
I use CUPS PDF printing options to create PDF files in Ubuntu/Linux and
doPDF to create PDF files in Windows.

There are advantages and disadvantages:

CUPS-PDF rasterizes everything, so text cannot be searched. If that is
not an issue, then it does a generally good job, and since you print
to it you can create a PDF from any application that can print. The PDF
files are also small, sometimes a consideration when sending in e-mails.

Evince can open editable PDFs (PDF forms), but you cannot enter
anything in the fields. Otherwise it is fine, and it has a good export
to PS or PDF function. I frequently open large PDF files and use Evince
to export to PDF, which usually results in a much smaller PDF file.
Doing so also flattens a PDF that has transparency, which is often a
problem when printing to non-Postscript printers.

Okular (formerly KPDF) does a great job of opening PS files, and can
save as PDF. You can also enter data in the fields of an editable PDF.
It has issues with printing, however, although usually I can get what I
want if I poke at it long enough - e.g., a landscape page prints as
portrait, among other tribulations.

Adobe Reader is the best, but it is proprietary, slow to load, and
can't open PS files. 

Cabaret and Foxit are also proprietary, and sometimes tricky to get
installed. I use them only if all of the above are being brats.

Check out also GSView, a rather bare-bones viewer It can't open PS
files, but does a fine job with PDFs. It uses Ghostscript for its
engine, where I believe all the other open source readers use poppler
libraries. Therefore, if you have a PDF that won't render well in the
other open source readers, GSView may do the job.

There is also PDFEdit, which is a GUI that allows you to rearrange
pages - useful for simple impositions. You can also do some really
minimal editing, but it's nowhere near as capable as Acrobat. 

I do a lot of DTP work, so I need all of the above. My first choice is
Adobe Reader, followed by Okular, but if I need to do something special
sometimes one of the other readers is better for the job.

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Re: [users] PDF

2010-12-26 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:47:48 +
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk dijo:

On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:18:37 -0500
David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote:

Hello David,

 Double DANG! /I was twice wrong. /Foxit reader exists for 
 Linux. I didn't find it for Mac.

Indeed;  I hadn't noticed lack of Mac build.

The printing issue would appear to be because I run a pure 64 bit
system, but the Foxit executable is 32 bit.  Consequently, trying to
load libraries will fail:  Can't load 64 bit stuff into a 32 bit
process.

I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just fine.

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Re: [users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo

2010-11-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:26:42 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

Hello John,

On Tuesday 30 November 2010, 00:55, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 [r...@devil8 RPMS]# yum localinstall ooobasis* openoffice*
 Loaded plugins: r...efresh-packagekit
 .snip
 Package openoffice.org3-calc-3.2.1-9502.x86_64.rpm is not signed
 
 Suspiros
 
 Any further suggestions?

yes :-)

yum localinstall  --nogpgcheck ooobasis* openoffice*

according to the help
  --nogpgcheck  disable gpg signature checking
so it won't matter if the packages are not signed.

Thanks. Got it reinstalled now, and have added the correct exclude line
in /etc/yum.conf so future upgrades won't overwrite any of the files.

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[users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo

2010-11-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have OOo 3.2.1 installed on Fedora 14, x86_64 (Gnome). The version I
installed was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora
repositories.

Yesterday I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, including a lot of updates
since Fedora 14 was released. Today none of my launch menu items will
launch the program. The program files appear to be intact in /opt/, but
nothing works. From the command line I go to the folder containing
(e.g.) swriter, type swriter, and get an error that there is no such
command.

I tried reinstalling, but yum said all the packages are already
installed. That is, except I didn't reinstall the desktop integration
package. I suspect reinstalling it might cure the problem, but I don't
know which package to install:

 ...freedesktop-menus...
 ...mandriva-menus...
 ...redhat-menus...
 ...suse-menus...

It's probably either freedesktop or redhat, but I don't want to install
the wrong one. I can't remember which one I used before, and I can't
find anything in the documentation.

Can someone help me get my OOo working again?

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[users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo

2010-11-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have OOo 3.2.1 installed on Fedora 14, x86_64 (Gnome). The version I
installed was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora
repositories.

Yesterday I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, including a lot of updates
since Fedora 14 was released. Today none of my launch menu items will
launch the program. The program files appear to be intact in /opt/, but
nothing works. From the command line I go to the folder containing
(e.g.) swriter, type swriter, and get an error that there is no such
command.

I tried reinstalling, but yum said all the packages are already
installed. That is, except I didn't reinstall the desktop integration
package. I suspect reinstalling it might cure the problem, but I don't
know which package to install:

 ...freedesktop-menus...
 ...mandriva-menus...
 ...redhat-menus...
 ...suse-menus...

It's probably either freedesktop or redhat, but I don't want to install
the wrong one. I can't remember which one I used before, and I can't
find anything in the documentation.

Can someone help me get my OOo working again?

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Re: [users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo

2010-11-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:16:17 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

Hello John,

On Monday 29 November 2010, 21:51, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I have OOo 3.2.1 installed on Fedora 14, x86_64 (Gnome). The version
 I installed was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora
 repositories.
 
 Yesterday I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, including a lot of
 updates since Fedora 14 was released. Today none of my launch menu
 items will launch the program. The program files appear to be intact
 in /opt/, but nothing works. From the command line I go to the
 folder containing (e.g.) swriter, type swriter, and get an error
 that there is no such command.

you do

] swriter

or

]./swriter

if the folder is not on the path, only the second one works.

Both commands gave error messages that the command could not be found.
I did the command from within the folder where the swriter binary is
located.

 I tried reinstalling, but yum said all the packages are already
 installed. That is, except I didn't reinstall the desktop integration
 package. I suspect reinstalling it might cure the problem, 

You will have to edit /etc/yum.conf  and add:
exclude=openoffice.org-ure
or better
exclude=openoffice.org*

in the [main] section

Done. Although now that the Fedora 13  14 upgrade has taken place I
probably have the wrong ure file.

IMHO the better thing to do is a clean install.
First remove everything:

[r...@localhost ~]# yum erase openoffice.org*

This worked, but threw errors on three packages, all with UNO in the
name.

then reinstall everything.
Untar the package downloaded from OOo, go to the RPMS folder, do a

[r...@localhost ~]# yum localinstall openoffice.org*

Installed two or three packages, then errored out that everything else
was already installed. 

I think you meant rpm, not yum. Yum would get everything from the
repos. Rpm would install the packages in the folder, right?

So I repeated yum erase openoffice.org* and then did rpm --install
openoffice.org. This errored out on failed dependencies (oobasis3.2*).

Then I decided to install with the setup script. I did ./setup. I got:

[r...@devil8 OOO320_m18_native_packed-1_en-US.9502]# ./setup
Checksumming...
Extracting ...
96251 blocks
Done.
Using /var/tmp/install_4550/usr/java/jre1.6.0_20/bin/java
java version 1.6.0_20
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode)

Running installer
/var/tmp/install_4550/usr/java/jre1.6.0_20/bin/java -DHOME=/root
-DJRE_FILE=jre-6u20-linux-amd64.rpm -jar JavaSetup.jar System locale:
en_US Root privileges
OS: Linux
Mode: installation
No protocol specified
Exception in thread main java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to
X11 window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. at
sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method) at
sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.access$100(Unknown Source) at
sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment$1.run(Unknown Source) at
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at
sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.clinit(Unknown Source) at
java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at
java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) at
java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(Unknown
Source) at sun.awt.X11.XToolkit.clinit(Unknown Source) at
java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at
java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) at
java.awt.Toolkit$2.run(Unknown Source) at
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at
java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Unknown Source) at
javax.swing.ImageIcon.init(Unknown Source) at
javax.swing.ImageIcon.init(Unknown Source) at
org.openoffice.setup.ResourceManager.getIconFromPath(ResourceManager.java:149)
at org.openoffice.setup.SetupFrame.init(SetupFrame.java:104) at
org.openoffice.setup.Main.main(Main.java:54) [r...@devil8

then go to the desktop integration folder and install the one for
RedHat (notice that the one for FreeDesktop should work, because Fedora
is supposed to follow the FreeDesktop standard).

I didn't get this far. But at least now I know to install the one for
Redhat when I finally get OOo reinstalled.

Gracias por la ayuda. Now I understand what caused the mess when I
upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, and I have fixed the exclusions so it
doesn't happen again. But I still need help to get OOo reinstalled.

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Re: [users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo

2010-11-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:08:59 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

try
yum erase openoffice* ooobasis* 
(from within any directory)
yum localinstall ooobasis* openoffice*
(from within the RPMS dir. of the unpacked tar)

hope it helps now! :-)

Ariel,

I am almost there. Here is what happened:

Install  48 Package(s)

Total size: 401 M
Installed size: 401 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:

[r...@devil8 RPMS]# yum localinstall ooobasis* openoffice*
Loaded plugins: r...efresh-packagekit
.snip
Package openoffice.org3-calc-3.2.1-9502.x86_64.rpm is not signed

Suspiros

Any further suggestions?

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[users] Cross references in an index?

2010-11-18 Thread John Jason Jordan
Using OOo 3.2.1 on Fedora 13, x86_64.

I am trying to learn how to generate an index. I've pretty much figured
out how to create index entries, but what if I want to create an index
entry that just says See or See also followed by another index
entry?

For some reason the GUI confuses the heck out of me.

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[users] Pagination and indexes

2010-11-17 Thread John Jason Jordan
I am using 3.2.1 (downloaded from OOo) on Fedora 13 x86_64. I also use
Scribus for laying out books. However, Scribus does not (yet) have an
indexing feature. 

I have discovered that using Adobe Reader one can open a PDF (as
exported from Scribus), then save from Reader as a text file. The text
file will have page breaks at the end of each page of the PDF. The text
file can then be opened in Writer, where Writer's indexing feature can
create the index. Once the index is created it can be saved as a
separate document and then imported into Scribus at the end of the
document.

The problem is the pagination. The text file does have a page break at
the point where each page of the PDF ended, but sometimes the amount of
text on a page in the PDF takes more than one page in Writer. Writer
then flows the text onto an extra page. For example, as an experiment I
opened an 11 page PDF in Reader, saved as text, and opened the text
file in Writer. In Writer it was 14 pages. The first page of the PDF
took about a page and a quarter, then Writer started a new page because
of the page break. The second page of the PDF all fit on one page in
Writer, but the third page took almost a page and a half so, again,
Writer added a page.

I'm trying to figure out some way to make Writer paginate only on the
page breaks and not create extra pages.

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Re: [users] Pagination and indexes

2010-11-17 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:09:24 -0600
Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com dijo:

On 11/17/2010 1:13 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I am using 3.2.1 (downloaded from OOo) on Fedora 13 x86_64. I also
 use Scribus for laying out books. However, Scribus does not (yet)
 have an indexing feature.

It sounds as if you're dealing only with text, and you're not going to
need that once the index has been created. In that case, could you
just set the font size small enough that the original text would
always fit without flowing over the page boundary?

Thanks. That is a good idea. It might be hard to read if the text is
already small. However, I also figured I could just make the page size
longer. 

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[users] Cross references in an index?

2010-11-17 Thread John Jason Jordan
Using OOo 3.2.1 on Fedora 13, x86_64.

I am trying to learn how to generate an index. I've pretty much figured
out how to create index entries, but what if I want to create an index
entry that just says See or See also followed by another index
entry?

For some reason the GUI confuses the heck out of me.

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[users] Desperate! Upgrade to Fedora 13 killed OOo

2010-11-04 Thread John Jason Jordan
I need OOo working by tomorrow evening when I have a presentation to
deliver.

I had OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org installed and running fine on
Fedora 11 x86_64. I upgraded to Fedora 13. Afterwards none of the OOo
applications will launch. I can't find the executables. Previous
versions of OOo were in /opt, but I have scoured the folder and its
subfolders with no luck. I installed using the setup script as root.

I tried reinstalling but all I get is error messages that the packages
are already installed. But where in the heck are they?

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Re: [users] Desperate! Upgrade to Fedora 13 killed OOo

2010-11-04 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:54:20 -0400
Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo:

John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I need OOo working by tomorrow evening when I have a presentation to
 deliver.

 I had OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org installed and running fine on
 Fedora 11 x86_64. I upgraded to Fedora 13. Afterwards none of the OOo
 applications will launch. I can't find the executables. Previous
 versions of OOo were in /opt, but I have scoured the folder and its
 subfolders with no luck. I installed using the setup script as root.

 I tried reinstalling but all I get is error messages that the
 packages are already installed. But where in the heck are they?

  Fedora 13 should have its variation of OOo listed in the K Menu. 
But if you are looking for the OOo executables, they are probably in a 
bin folder in /etc. Search for soffice.bin using locate in a console.
  Did you keep a copy of OOo 3.2.1 when you upgraded to 13 from
 11? 
If so, reinstall it. (You probably did not save a copy on a CD or
flash drive.)
  Other choice: download the OOo 3.2.1 file from the OOo website.
 It 
is still available.

This morning with a clear head I managed to fix the launch items. For
some reason the upgrade from Fedora 11 to Fedora 13 killed the path to
the executables, which are in /opt/openoffice.org3/program/. 

Now all I have to do is figure out if I still have the OOo version, or
if the upgrade messed me up and installed the Fedora version. The 
Help  About says that I have:

OpenOffice.org 3.2.1
OOO320m18 (Build:9502)
Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
reserved. This product was created by Oracle, based on OpenOffice.org.
OpenOffice.org acknowledges all community members, especially those
mentioned at http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html.

Bear in mind that when I had Fedora 11 x86_64 I uninstalled OOo from
the Fedora repos and installed the OOo version. I did this long
ago when the latest version was 3.1.1. Before I upgraded from Fedora 11
x86_64 to 13 x86_64 I downloaded 3.2.1 from OOo and used the setup
shell script to install 3.2.1. So I had the OOo version before the
upgrade to Fedora 13 x86_64. And I remember putting openoffice (or
similar term) in some file somewhere called excludes to some such so
that the Fedora updater would not keep telling me there was a new
version, i.e., it's version in its repos.

I probably still have the OOo version, but it would be nice to be sure.

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[users] Desperate! Upgrade to Fedora 13 killed OOo

2010-11-04 Thread John Jason Jordan
I need OOo working by tomorrow evening when I have a presentation to
deliver.

I had OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org installed and running fine on
Fedora 11 x86_64. I upgraded to Fedora 13. Afterwards none of the OOo
applications will launch. I can't find the executables. Previous
versions of OOo were in /opt, but I have scoured the folder and its
subfolders with no luck. I installed using the setup script as root.

I tried reinstalling but all I get is error messages that the packages
are already installed. But where in the heck are they?

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[users] Zotero and OOo 3.2.1 and FF 3.5.9

2010-11-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
Does anyone have Zotero working with OOo 3.2.1 and Firefox 3.5.9 or
later on Linux? If so, can you tell me what versions of the FF and OOo
plugins you have installed?

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Re: [users] Broken Zotero

2010-11-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:01 -0700
Julie Flaming julie.flam...@gmail.com dijo:

I've been having huge Zotero problems for months! Glad to know it's
not just me. Not sure  about any answers for you, though. 8-(

I finally succeeded in getting Zotero working in OOo 3.2.1 and Firefox
3.5.9 on Fedora 11. 

How to do it is kind of involved, but there is a thread on the Zotero
forums where my trek is documented:

http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/15016/firefox-could-not-load-the-component/#Comment_74429

I hope that helps someone else get Zotero working.

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Re: [users] Broken Zotero

2010-11-03 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:34:14 -0400
webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo:

On 11/03/10 13:14, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:01 -0700
 Julie Flaming julie.flam...@gmail.com dijo:

 I've been having huge Zotero problems for months! Glad to know it's
 not just me. Not sure  about any answers for you, though. 8-(
 I finally succeeded in getting Zotero working in OOo 3.2.1 and
 Firefox 3.5.9 on Fedora 11. 

 How to do it is kind of involved, but there is a thread on the Zotero
 forums where my trek is documented:

 http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/15016/firefox-could-not-load-the-component/#Comment_74429

 I hope that helps someone else get Zotero working.

I had to reinstall OOo and cannot get it to Stop Recovering Untitled
1.  Did not have
this before I tried Zotero on Ubuntu 10.10.

What happens if you close OOo, then using your file browser search for
Untitled 1, and when you find it, delete it. Then relaunch OOo.

I think OOo automatically creates backup copies as well, but I've never
needed them so I don't know where they are. The Help file should tell
you. Also, if there is an Untitled 1 with the backups it should show
up with the file browser search.

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Re: [users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size

2010-11-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:26:12 +0100
Yann Barraud yann.barr...@gmail.com dijo:

I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF
forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with
Acrobat Reader for example).

You should be able to do this, but it doesn't work due to a bug that
has been in OOo for years and remains unfixed. 

Open a new, blank Writer document. From View  Toolbars select Form
Design and Form Controls. Using the Controls toolbar place some
controls on the document that would contain text, e.g., a list box, a
text box, etc. Right click on the control and select Control. This will
bring up a dialog box where you can specify the properties for the
control, including the font.

When finished, export your form to a PDF, making sure that you check
the box create PDF form. (The box is unchecked by default.) 

Now open your form in Adobe Reader. You will discover that your
controls work, but the font will be Helvetica or some sans-serif face,
rather than the font you specified in the control properties.

This bug was reported and confirmed years ago, but no one has
ever done anything about it.

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[users] Upgrade 3.1.1 to 3.2.1 (Fedora)

2010-11-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have OOo 3.1.1 installed (from OOo, not from repositories) on Fedora
11 x86_64. I have downloaded and untarred the x86_64 RPM for 3.2.1 from
OOo. I have also made a full system backup and also made a copy
of my .openoffice.org config folder.  Before I install I have some dumb
questions:

1) Do I have to uninstall 3.1.1 first, or will the new install
overwrite the old?

2) If I need to uninstall, I could use a hand with the yum syntax, as
I'm not very familiar with yum from the command line. There are a lot
of packages and I need to be sure I get them all. I found numerous
instructions on the net (all different), but I can tell that the syntax
is wrong.

3) I have a ton of personal settings and extensions in
~/.openoffice.org. Are there any issues with 3.2.1?

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Re: [users] Upgrade 3.1.1 to 3.2.1 (Fedora)

2010-11-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:16:29 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

I have OOo 3.1.1 installed (from OOo, not from repositories) on Fedora
11 x86_64. I have downloaded and untarred the x86_64 RPM for 3.2.1 from
OOo. I have also made a full system backup and also made a copy
of my .openoffice.org config folder.  Before I install I have some dumb
questions:

1) Do I have to uninstall 3.1.1 first, or will the new install
overwrite the old?

2) If I need to uninstall, I could use a hand with the yum syntax, as
I'm not very familiar with yum from the command line. There are a lot
of packages and I need to be sure I get them all. I found numerous
instructions on the net (all different), but I can tell that the syntax
is wrong.

3) I have a ton of personal settings and extensions in
~/.openoffice.org. Are there any issues with 3.2.1?

No one answered, so I uninstalled OOo 3.1.1 and then used the setup
script to install 3.2.1. I can now use OTF fonts based on Type 1 fonts,
but a couple longstanding bugs remain unfixed. 

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[users] Broken Zotero

2010-11-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
I just upgraded my 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64 to 3.2.1 and I have
discovered that Zotero is broken.

I guess I had the old version of Zotero. So I used Extension Manager to
uninstall it. Then I went to zotero.org and installed 2.09 to Firefox
(upgrading whatever the old one was). And then I used the link on
zotero.org to install the current OOo plugin.

After restarting Firefox and OOo (several times) the Zotero plugin is
working fine in Firefox, all all my existing references are still there,
but it's not working in OOo. Extension Manager says Zotero OpenOffice
Integration 3.0 is installed and enabled, but I can't find the toolbar
or any other way to enter a citation or create a list of references. 

I bet it's just a setting somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can find
it.

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Re: [users] Broken Zotero

2010-11-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:31:26 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

I just upgraded my 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64 to 3.2.1 and I have
discovered that Zotero is broken.

I guess I had the old version of Zotero. So I used Extension Manager to
uninstall it. Then I went to zotero.org and installed 2.09 to Firefox
(upgrading whatever the old one was). And then I used the link on
zotero.org to install the current OOo plugin.

After restarting Firefox and OOo (several times) the Zotero plugin is
working fine in Firefox, all all my existing references are still
there, but it's not working in OOo. Extension Manager says Zotero
OpenOffice Integration 3.0 is installed and enabled, but I can't find
the toolbar or any other way to enter a citation or create a list of
references. 

I finally found the toolbar. Some idiot decided that instead of calling
it Zotero they should rename it Add-on 4. Seriously.

But it still isn't working. When I click on any of the buttons I get a
little beep and Firefox pops up a warning that it is unable to
communicate with my word processor. The Zotero website leads me to
believe that it is a problem with Java JRE, but I can't figure out how
to solve it. I did install the latest Sun JRE 22, and now I no longer
get a beep or warning from Firefox, but it still does not enter the
citation or let me look at my list of references. And yes, I did go to
Options  Java and tell OOo to use the new JRE, and I did restart
Firefox and OOo.

If anyone has any idea how to get Zotero running with OOo 3.2.1 and
Firefox 3.5.9 on Linux, I could use some help.

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Re: [users] Broken Zotero

2010-11-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:01 -0700
Julie Flaming julie.flam...@gmail.com dijo:

I've been having huge Zotero problems for months! Glad to know it's
not just me. Not sure  about any answers for you, though. 8-(

It's almost surely a Java problem. The Zotero forums are full of
suggestions, and some of them have actually worked for some users. But
I know nothing of programming, let alone Java. Figuring it out is not
easy. 

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Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
Firefox 4 is still in beta. The final release will not be until next
year. I recommend going back to the latest stable release. I am using
3.5.9 and have no problems with Zotero.


On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:11:45 -0500
Bruce Summitt u.nix.t...@gmail.com dijo:

Sadly, Zotero does not appear to work in Firefox 4 (yet?).

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To: users@openoffice.org
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:11:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:45:42 +1300
Michael Adams mbad...@paradise.net.nz dijo:

On Thursday 14 October 2010 01:06, Ekain Rojo Labaien wrote:
 I just want to know if endnote 9 is available in open office writer
 like in Microsoft word 2003, if I can cite in my text and as always
 endnote create the bibliography. And is it possible to carry all the
 references that I have create in word? Writer will recognize them?
 Thank you very much

Zotero is very popular as a FOSS (GPL) alternative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero
http://www.zotero.org/

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. It was recommended to me by
a computer tutor at my University.

Zotero is wonderful! Too bad so many are still struggling with that
pathetic Endnote.

-- 
UNixThis!
registered Linux user number 526076

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[users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have
installed.

Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different
printer drivers (I have six Postscript printers installed, including
one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the
text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera
Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was
converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color.

If I print to paper on a plain Laserjet using the PCL driver all the
text prints, but without font metrics, and only the bold prints in Vera
Sans; somehow Times was substituted for the regular. If I print to the
same printer using the (genuine Adobe) Postscript driver all the text
prints, but Courier regular was substituted for both fonts; and again
without font metrics.

I verified that Bitstream Vera Sans regular and bold are properly
installed. I did this by opening Scribus and setting some type with the
Vera Sans fonts. Scribus is a layout app that will never substitute a
font. I also used Fontmatrix to verify that the fonts are correctly
installed.

I am out of ideas. Any suggestions are welcome.

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Re: [users] Re: Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:10:42 -0400
webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo:

On 11/01/10 15:29, NoOp wrote:
 On 10/31/2010 11:54 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
 repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts
 Bitstream Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text
 appears as just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of
 the PDF with Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF
 viewers that I have installed.

 Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using
 different

 What happens when you print to a cups-pdf printer?

The resulting PDF has all the fonts converted to Times, and no font
metrics.

That is my default printer for Ubuntu 10.10.  I created a test
document with 60 script
and handwritten fonts in it and printed it via cups-pdf.  Then I copied
it over to a
Vista machine that had only 2 or 3 of those fonts installed.  The
documents showed
the correct fonts when I viewed in with Adobe Reader 9.  So it seemed
to embed the
fonts properly via cups-pdf on Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit.

I rarely use OOo's Export to PDF anyways.

ALSO, if you use Windows, use doPDF.  It is a free PDF printer that
embeds the fonts properly.  That is what I use on the Vista system.

Fedora 11 x86_64 with OOo 3.1.1 from OOo, not the repositories.

The problem is only Bitstream Vera family. I have hundreds of other
fonts installed, including Adobe OTF Pro fonts. OOo is happy to embed
and print all of them, all except the Bitstream Vera family. At the same
time all my other apps (Abiword, Scribus, etc.) will print and embed
the Bitstream Vera family without a problem.

According to the license information (viewed with Fontmatrix), these
fonts came with the Gnome desktop.

It is clearly a bug in OOo 3.1.1. Eventually I will move up to 3.2,
which hopefully will resolve the problem. In the meantime, for this
project I just changed all the fonts to DejaVu. 

For those not aware, DejaVu is a FOSS remaking of the Bitstream Vera
family, adding additional glyphs and eliminating any question about
licensing. A lot of distros are now shipping with DejaVu instead of
Bitstream Vera. Evidently Gnome hasn't got there yet.

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Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:44:02 -0400
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org dijo:

On 2010-11-01 11:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 Firefox 4 is still in beta. The final release will not be until next 
 year. I recommend going back to the latest stable release. I am
 using 3.5.9

Eh? Latest stable is 3.6.12...

Yes it is.

But I repeat: I am using 3.5.9. And Zotero works just fine in Firefox
and Writer.

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Re: [users] Re: Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:45:15 -0400
webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo:

 It is clearly a bug in OOo 3.1.1. Eventually I will move up to 3.2,
 which hopefully will resolve the problem. In the meantime, for this
 project I just changed all the fonts to DejaVu. 

 For those not aware, DejaVu is a FOSS remaking of the Bitstream Vera
 family, adding additional glyphs and eliminating any question about
 licensing. A lot of distros are now shipping with DejaVu instead of
 Bitstream Vera. Evidently Gnome hasn't got there yet.

As for GNOME, I do not know about that.  Some tell me that Ubuntu is
not GNOME, even when it asked me if I wanted to use GNOME only option
at the current log on.

Straight Ubuntu comes with the Gnome desktop. There are many derivatives
of Ubuntu, which usually use a different desktop. For example, Kubuntu
uses KDE, Xubuntu uses XFCE, Lubuntu uses I forgot desktop. OOo will
run nicely on all of them, although if you use the default installation
it will be the Go-oo version, not the version from OOo. 

I recommend that you install an additional desktop. After doing so you
will have the additional desktop as a login option. The reason I
recommend this is because it gives you an additional way to log in if
you mess up something in Gnome and it won't start.

But this is an OOo list, so I'll shut up now about Ubuntu. :)

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Re: [users] Re: Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:57:50 -0700
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo:

 Fedora 11 x86_64 with OOo 3.1.1 from OOo, not the repositories.
 
 The problem is only Bitstream Vera family. I have hundreds of other
 fonts installed, including Adobe OTF Pro fonts. OOo is happy to embed
 and print all of them, all except the Bitstream Vera family. At the
 same time all my other apps (Abiword, Scribus, etc.) will print and
 embed the Bitstream Vera family without a problem.

Sorry, I can't help you out with 3.1.1; I had to remove the older
versions (disk space issue)  cannot find that version on any of the
mirrors (US English - linux), all I find is Windows versions.

Given that 3.1.1 is quite out of date, why not install a 3.2.x version
in parallel and see if that resolves your problem? I cannot replicate
the issue on OOo 3.2.1. I can export to pdf w/Bitstream and can print
to cups-pdf w/Bitstream... no substitution w/Times.

 It is clearly a bug in OOo 3.1.1. Eventually I will move up to 3.2,
 which hopefully will resolve the problem. In the meantime, for this
 project I just changed all the fonts to DejaVu. 

If it is a bug, then you should be able to find it in the Tracker
issues... there are 236 currently filed related to bitstream. If not,
file a bug.

You are sucking lemons... You know that you are running an outdated
version of OOo (August 2009) yet complain when you run into an issue
regarding fonts. I don't know if 3.2.x will fix your issue (as I
mentioned I can't find a 3.1.1 to install to test at the moment), but
given the bandwidth regarding the issue you might take the time to at
least install 3.2.1 in parallel
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel)
and report back as to whether that resolves your issue.

 For those not aware, DejaVu is a FOSS remaking of the Bitstream Vera
 family, adding additional glyphs and eliminating any question about
 licensing. A lot of distros are now shipping with DejaVu instead of
 Bitstream Vera. Evidently Gnome hasn't got there yet.

Really? What has this to do with Gnome? Gnome has had DejaVu for quite
a long time. Perhaps it is your distro that is the problem:

I only state that by way of pointing out that if Bitstream Vera is good
enough and open enough for Gnome, it ought to work.

The problem is not in my distro. The problem is a bug in OOo 3.1.1. And
it is the version from OOo, not from the Fedora repos. I know it is not
a Fedora problem because all my other apps embed and print the Vera
family just fine.

As for upgrading OOo, yes, I will do that soon. (Too busy at the
moment, and I have a workaround for the current problem.) I don't need
to install 3.2 in parallel; I'll just upgrade the 3.1.1 to 3.2. Since
from posts by others 3.2 fixes the problem, there is no need to file a
bug report on 3.1.1. 

NoOp, I love you just all over the place. But this thread is resolved
and dead. :)

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[users] Graphics formats for Impress 3.1.1

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
I am using OOo 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64. This is the version from OOo,
not the version from the Fedora repositories.

I am trying to create a presentation in Impress, but this is my first
time with Impress. 

I created a vector drawing in Inkscape. I gave it a rectangular
background that I set to the same color as the slide in Impress (C=25%,
M=19%, Y=0% and K=0%. I also set the stroke in Inkscape to the same
color. 

When I went to place this graphic on the slide I was amazed that
Impress seemed unable to import an SVG graphic (Inkscape's native
format). So I exported to EPS, but am having difficulties with the
stroke - it stays white for some reason. So I exported to OpenDocument
drawing (ODG), but Impress can't handle that either. My only other
options from Inkscape are bitmaps, which are not acceptable. 

How can I get this graphic as a vector file into Impress other than EPS?

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[users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have
installed.

Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different
printer drivers (I have six Postscript printers installed, including
one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the
text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera
Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was
converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color.

If I print to paper on a plain Laserjet using the PCL driver all the
text prints, but without font metrics, and only the bold prints in Vera
Sans; somehow Times was substituted for the regular. If I print to the
same printer using the (genuine Adobe) Postscript driver all the text
prints, but Courier regular was substituted for both fonts; and again
without font metrics.

I verified that Bitstream Vera Sans regular and bold are properly
installed. I did this by opening Scribus and setting some type with the
Vera Sans fonts. Scribus is a layout app that will never substitute a
font. I also used Fontmatrix to verify that the fonts are correctly
installed.

I am out of ideas. Any suggestions are welcome.

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I
have installed.

I have discovered that the problem is apparently in OOo. Scribus,
for example, is happy to embed the fonts in a PDF.

The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter.
It is a very open license.

As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an
entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually
and apply the new font.

It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or
Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:00:39 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 20:49 31/10/2010 +, I wrote:
At 12:44 31/10/2010 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an 
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple 
of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font 
for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell 
individually and apply the new font.

Er, where do you get those ideas?

Oh, dear: my apologies.  You were writing about an Impress 
presentation and I was thinking of a text (Writer) document.  So what 
I said clearly missed the point.  Sorry about that.

Mind you, you might be able to achieve something by copying text into 
Writer and back again.  Or not.

Sorry that didn't help.

Thanks to all for the suggestions. It turns out that I could have done
most of it by changing the default style. However, changing the default
style still did not affect the tables. I had to do those manually, one
cell at a time. I am amazed that you cannot apply a font by selecting
the entire table. 

And yes, I am very familiar with styles. I have been using Writer for
years and always use styles because most of my writing is destined for
layout in Scribus. Scribus will import Writer text and maintain the
styles. I always have the styles dialog box open. However, in this case
I didn't bother because I just had 17 slides and I mostly created them
by duplicating a previous slide. Thus, all I had to do was set the font
in the text frame on the first slide and for each subsequent slide I
just deleted the text in the frame and typed in the new text.

None of this would have been necessary if OOo did not have a bug
causing it not to embed Bitstream Vera fonts.

I also note that when I am typing in Writer with the styles dialog box
open, whatever style I am typing in is highlighted. If I move the cursor
to an area of text where a different style is applied, the dialog box
immediately highlights the style of the new text area. In Impress I
always had the style dialog box open, but none of the styles were ever
highlighted.

Anyway, the problem is resolved. I'm just dismayed at the poor
formatting available in Impress compared to Writer. Luckily I rarely
need to use Impress.

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:30:37 -0400
Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo:

John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
 John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  dijo:

 The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
 least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
 prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that
 matter. It is a very open license.

 As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
 hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
 tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for
 an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell
 individually and apply the new font.

 It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
 somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences
 or Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
 embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.

  Where did these tables come from? Did you create them on the
 slide using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar?

I used Insert  Table, rather than the icon on the toolbar. But that
should make no difference. The important issue is that the tables were
created de novo in Impress, not brought in from Writer or elsewhere.

  I'm using OOo 3.3.0 RC2, so there may be some improvements since 
3.1.1. I created a new presentation and created a table of 5 columns
and 15 rows using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar. Then I
clicked the left top cell. The Table toolbar opened. The Table
Properties icon is on the right end of the bottom row of this toolbar.
Using this icon, I can set or modify the font for a single cell if
only one cell is highlighted. When I select two or more adjacent
cells, I can set or modify the font for all of the selected cells.
Since then I have created a PDF file using File  Export as PDF. When
I opened the PDF Preview (MAC PDF and image program), the fonts in the
table look very much like the fonts in the table on the slide. (I used
two different fonts in the table.) So, perhaps, what you found is a
bug that has been corrected. (I do know that there have been several
changes made in the Impress module for the 3.3.0 version due out soon:
enough so that several changes needed to be made in the Impress Guide
to keep it up to date.)

It's good to know that the ability to apply a font to all cells of a
table is finally possible. 

As for the Bitstream Vera fonts not being embedded in a PDF and not
printing, that is almost surely a bug in 3.1.1. The font license does
not prohibit embedding or printing, plus the fonts came with Gnome, so
surely they are openly embeddable. All the rest of my apps can embed
them in PDFs and print them to my printers.

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Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer

2010-10-29 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:45:42 +1300
Michael Adams mbad...@paradise.net.nz dijo:

On Thursday 14 October 2010 01:06, Ekain Rojo Labaien wrote:
 I just want to know if endnote 9 is available in open office writer
 like in Microsoft word 2003, if I can cite in my text and as always
 endnote create the bibliography. And is it possible to carry all the
 references that I have create in word? Writer will recognize them?
 Thank you very much

Zotero is very popular as a FOSS (GPL) alternative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero
http://www.zotero.org/

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. It was recommended to me by
a computer tutor at my University.

Zotero is wonderful! Too bad so many are still struggling with that
pathetic Endnote.

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Re: [users] Text wrap in Impress

2010-10-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:06:26 +0100
Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk dijo:

On 10/10/10 13:55, Daniel Lewis wrote:
 Mike Scott wrote:
 On 09/10/2010 23:43, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:37:18 -0700
 John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  dijo:

 I only ever used Impress once several years ago. Now I need to
 use it again, but I am far from an expert.

 I placed a PNG graphic on a slide. There is also a text frame on
 the slide, and I want the text to wrap around the graphic.

 I have scoured though the Help file and it appears to be Adjust
 to contour. But when I select that checkbox the text still does
 not wrap around the graphic.

 No ideas here on that one; sorry. AFAIK only Writer has a proper
 wrap facility.
 
  This might work:
 1.) Move the graphic to where you want it on the slide. Also make
 sure the graphic is the size you want.
 2.) Move the text frame to where you want it to be. Adjust the frame
 size as well. You will be able to see the graphic inside the text
 frame. 3.) Double click inside the text frame to place the flashing
 cursor at the top left of the frame. Enter the text using spaces so
 that the text appears only to the left and right of the graphic. As
 you add each line of text, the graphic will move down by the height
 of the line. 4.) Click the graphic and drag it back to where you
 want it to be.

Or there again, might not :-)

Doesn't behave like that when I try it. I just get a graphic with text
superimposed. You're not, I hope, suggesting one might pad the text
with spaces to give a wrap effect

Doesn't work for me either. But I wanted the graphic on the right of
the slide, and the text frame fills the slide, so I used shift-enter to
truncate some of the lines manually.

I still can't believe there is no text wrap for graphics in Impress.
There is a checkbox for Adjust to contour, but it does nothing.

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Re: [users] Ubuntu 10.10 is out with OOo 3.2.1 included - finally

2010-10-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:14:53 -0400
webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo:

Well, Ubuntu 10.10 came out today [ not RC version ].

Included with it, finally, is OOo version 3.2.1

It would be nice if they [ Ubuntu and Debian ] would update
OOo in their repositories more often than every 6 months.

Yes, I know that people can download OOo in .deb and install it
in a way that will deal with the Applications/Menu problems that
I keep having.  I just have to remember where I put that paper [file]
that contains the instructions to do so.

Yet, I wonder why when a major software package like OOo comes
out with an update, or even an upgrade, that it takes so long for it
to appear in the repositories.  Other open-source packages are
updated in the Ubuntu/Debian repositories and are seen in the
daily/weekly checks with the Update Manager, but not OOo.

The reason is because every distro has a slightly different philosophy
about what to include out of the box and what should be optional. A big
issue with most distros is to what extent closed source software should
be included. The version of OOo from OOo has a small bit of closed
source code in it and many distros like to clean that out. It takes a
while to get the cleansed version of the latest release ready for the
users.

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[users] Text wrap in Impress

2010-10-09 Thread John Jason Jordan
I only ever used Impress once several years ago. Now I need to use it
again, but I am far from an expert.

I placed a PNG graphic on a slide. There is also a text frame on the
slide, and I want the text to wrap around the graphic.

I have scoured though the Help file and it appears to be Adjust to
contour. But when I select that checkbox the text still does not wrap
around the graphic.

Also, how do I select the graphic when it is underneath the text frame?

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Re: [users] Text wrap in Impress

2010-10-09 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:37:18 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

I only ever used Impress once several years ago. Now I need to use it
again, but I am far from an expert.

I placed a PNG graphic on a slide. There is also a text frame on the
slide, and I want the text to wrap around the graphic.

I have scoured though the Help file and it appears to be Adjust to
contour. But when I select that checkbox the text still does not wrap
around the graphic.

Also, how do I select the graphic when it is underneath the text frame?

I forgot to say I have OOo 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64. The version is
from OOo, not from the Fedora repositories.

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[users] MS Office and OOo

2010-10-08 Thread John Jason Jordan
This is just a point of idle curiosity.

I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.1.1 (from OOo, not the
repos) on Fedora 11 x86_64. I do not have MS Office installed on any of
my computers.

Recently I have been working on an Impress presentation (on Scribus,
not OOo) that I will give to a local Linux user group at the end of
November. This evening the group had a meeting, so I brought my Impress
file with me on a USB stick.

The meeting is held in a classroom at a local university. My purpose in
bringing what I had done so far on the USB stick was to see if it
worked with the projector in the classroom. I did not bring my computer
with me. The university maintains OOo on just about all its computers,
all of which run XP.

With the classroom computer running XP I looked all over for OOo,  but
apparently it was not installed on the computer in this classroom. Just
to be sure I hadn't missed it I decided to double-click on the Impress
file. I reasoned that if OOo was installed on the computer,
double-clicking on the file should launch Impress and the file.

I was stunned when MS Office Powerpoint appeared on screen with my
Impress file. 

I did not know that MS Office had OOo import filters. I knew that OOo
does a great job of opening MS Office files, but I thought that MS
ignored OOo.

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