[users] Printer always selects PDF instead of Postscript
Twice I tried to send this to the new list, and both times it bounced. I give up on the new list. Libreoffice 3.4.4 on Fedora 16, x86_64. Printer: Laserjet 4M+ (Postscript Level 2) I used OOo for many years and never had this problem until I switched to Libreoffice. Whenever I print to this printer I must remember to go into Properties Options Device and change the print type from PDF to Postscript. If I do not the text will fail to be kerned according to the font metrics; that is, a proportional font will be spaced as though it was a monospace font. All other applications print fine. There is no setting for this in the driver, which uses a PPD file. I looked everywhere for a setting to set it to use Postscript as the default, but I can't find it. It is extra work to have to change this setting all the time. And usually I forget to change the setting and have to print the page again after I realize that I forgot. This is very annoying, and it wastes paper, toner and electricity. I really hope someone can tell me how to change the default behavior, else I will have to remove Libreoffice and reinstall OOo. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Is this list now death?
On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 00:17:23 +0100 Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net dijo: Hello *, the last message I have gotten, was from 2011-11-30 and since then nothing anymore. So, this is a testmail whether I am subscribed (with my second mail) or not. You are subscribed, but there is a new list. I subscribed to the new list, but receive practically no messages from it. I don't know where all the traffic that used to be here has gone. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:42:05 -0700 (PDT) J C Jackson msjackson_2...@yahoo.com dijo: Let me start by saying, I am very disappointed in this program suite. OpenOffice came with my computer when I bought it from a refurb store. I have tried several times to update OO, since last year! Today when I took a chance to try it again, it downloaded the file just for it to give me some .msi error and roll back I guess to the previous version. Now I am jumping through hoops just to get support with you all. I looked on Oracle no straight forward answer, (I do not know how I got their by the way, I did not even know OpenOffice was under Oracle)Then when I finally was able to get to the OpenOffice website, that for some reason would never load. I try to register cannot get in or I have a username and password but it takes me to another site and knocks me out. I do not have time for this, can you just send me a CD? Janeen, There are a lot of things that you are unaware of, so let me start with a bit of background. OpenOffice was started 10-15 years or so ago by a German company. They didn't get very far with it, and after a couple years they sold it to Sun Microsystems. Sun makes heavy duty computers and operating systems for large corporations, and Sun thought it would be cool to offer an office suite with their software packages. But in order to get more development going with OpenOffice Sun made the code free open source software. It is critical that you understand what that means. It means that Sun owned the code, but anyone was free to contribute to it, modify it, or do anything they wanted to with it. Since those early days thousands of developers worldwide have contributed to OpenOffice, all without pay. The software remains free. But in the world of FOSS (free open source software) everyone is expected to do something to help the cause. In my case I answer questions on a mailing list. But you are not required to contribute, it's just nice if you can. At the risk of sounding like a communist, it's from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. OpenOffice was recently forked into LibreOffice, although OpenOffice remains a viable alternative. In the FOSS world sometimes a group of developers in a project decide they don't like the direction the project is going, so they split off and create a new variation on the software. In the case of LibreOffice, there were lots of issues, but the chief issue was discontent with Sun Microsystems. And, of all things, in the middle of the split Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems in another one of those Wall Street mergers designed to make money for stockbrokers and attorneys. OpenOffice / LibreOffice will remain FOSS, but how the whole scenario will play out is up in the air. At the moment it doesn't matter much which one you use because so far there is practically no difference between them. Either can open the other's files and everything is completely compatible. Now, the upshot of all this is that you have posted a request to a public mailing list that someone send you a CD. Unfortunately, this list is made up of people like me who volunteer their time. There is no company behind this list. There are no company employees who will see your e-mail and immediately send you a CD. (Besides, you didn't say where to send it.) I also volunteer to help people with the Linux operating system. From past experience, I think you would be far better served if you can find someone local who uses OpenOffice and can come to your place to get it installed and working for you. If you lived in my city I would be happy to meet with you to get it installed and running on your computer. But trying to help you by sending e-mails back and forth is going to be frustrating. I'm still game to try, if that is the only option, but try to see if you can find some local people who know about OpenOffice. I hope that helps. :) -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer can't do arithmetic?
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64. I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the first line as an example: A B C D E F AGCO200 43.20 41.25 0.000.00 The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is =sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00. All columns except A are set to general number format. I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct answers. Any help is welcome. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Writer can't do arithmetic?
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:28:14 +0100 openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com dijo: In writer, it appears the cell references need to be surrounded in angle brackets, i.e. for E use =(D1-C1)*B1 and for F use =B1*D1. The sum() function is not needed in this case - it is useful if you have a range of cells whose values you want to add, e.g. =sum(A1:A5). The brackets! That was the secret that I was missing. Thanks! (And yes, there is a reason I am doing the table in a Writer document and not in Calc.) -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer can't do arithmetic?
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64. I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the first line as an example: A B C D E F AGCO200 43.20 41.25 0.000.00 The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is =sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00. All columns except A are set to general number format. I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct answers. Any help is welcome. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Writer can't do arithmetic?
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:59:08 -0700 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo: That's what I get for reading by date. I see that JJJ posted this twice hadn't read this 10:07 AM thread: JJJ, Why the multiple posts? Because I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing. My mail client is set up to use my Comcast e-mail address by default, but I am signed up for the OOo list with my Gmail address. So I sent the e-mail first without realizing that I had sent it from my Comcast address. When it didn't show up after half an hour or so I realized my error and resent it using my Gmail address. The mail from the Gmail address was posted immediately and I quickly learned how to solve the formula problem. Later the post from the Comcast account finally showed up. Sorry for the confusion. It was all my fault. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Can OOo open an .xml file?
I need an article that was published in volume five of a five volume set The Blackwell companion to syntax. I had to order the book through interlibrary loan, and it has arrived. Imagine my surprise to discover that, instead of receiving volume five, I received a CD. Nautilus opened the CD just fine on my Fedora 14 x86_64 computer. And the article I need is right there in the file browser window. However, it is titled Chapter 75 - Verb particle constructions.xml. Double-clicking on it made Fedora try to open it in Gedit. That was not a good choice. Then I dimly recalled that OOo uses xml, so I tried opening it in Writer. Writer opened it, but all I got was pages and pages of what looks like code, interspersed with what appears to be the text of the article. It's there, but an unreadable mess. Google informs me that xml is Microsoft's new open document format. OK, I don't have MS Office, but back I go to OOo for further checking. It turns out that in OOo (3.3, from OOo, not Fedora repos) I can do File Open New XML document. However, there appears no way to open an existing xml file. So now I'm all gestumped. I could always schlep the CD back to the university, open it on a university computer that has MS Office, and save as something else. But surely I won't have to do that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Can OOo import the file so it is readable? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Can OOo open an .xml file?
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:42:56 -0700 RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo: Double-clicking on it made Fedora try to open it in Gedit. That was not a good choice. Then I dimly recalled that OOo uses xml, so I tried opening it in Writer. Writer opened it, but all I got was pages and pages of what looks like code, interspersed with what appears to be the text of the article. It's there, but an unreadable mess. Google informs me that xml is Microsoft's new open document format. OK, I don't have MS Office, but back I go to OOo for further checking. It turns out that in OOo (3.3, from OOo, not Fedora repos) I can do File Open New XML document. However, there appears no way to open an existing xml file. So now I'm all gestumped. I could always schlep the CD back to the university, open it on a university computer that has MS Office, and save as something else. But surely I won't have to do that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Can OOo import the file so it is readable? Do you have access to Kword? Just tried and it views an xml file without the coding that you describe. I am looking to install some other xml editors and see what they do. I didn't have Kword, but now I do. :) However, Kword won't open the file. All I get is errors like wrong file type. I tried File Open, File Import and dragging and dropping the file onto Kword. I also tried right-clicking on the file in Nautilus and selecting Open With Kword. Someone else suggesting making a copy of the file and renaming it to *.docx. Renaming the copy was easy enough, but Kword won't open it, and OOo opens it as code with the text interspersed. But thanks for the suggestion, even if it didn't work! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Copy and paste from Calc to Writer
Fedora 14 x86_64; OOo 3.3 (from OOo, not from repository). I have used Writer for years and am pretty adept at it. But I doubt I have launched Calc more than once a year, and then only to open an Excel file that someone sent me. I needed to tabulate some expenses by year for the years 1996-2011, about 20 to 100 expenses for each year. I thought it would be easier to do in Calc than in a Writer table. I finished 1996 and there are 35 rows. I tried to use Sheet 2 for 1997, but couldn't figure out how to transfer the row and column formatting from Sheet 1 (1996), so I gave up and decided just to use Writer tables. It took me a lot of work to format the cells in Sheet 1 and I was trying to avoid having to duplicate the effort for Sheet 2. I tried to get the data into Writer where I understand better how to do things, but I can't get the data from Calc into Writer as a Writer table. I can select the cells in Calc and copy to the clipboard, but when I paste into Writer it comes in as a graphic, not as a table. How can get the data into Writer as text or as a Writer table? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Copy and paste from Calc to Writer
Fedora 14 x86_64; OOo 3.3 (from OOo, not from repository). I have used Writer for years and am pretty adept at it. But I doubt I have launched Calc more than once a year, and then only to open an Excel file that someone sent me. I needed to tabulate some expenses by year for the years 1996-2011, about 20 to 100 expenses for each year. I thought it would be easier to do in Calc than in a Writer table. I finished 1996 and there are 35 rows. I tried to use Sheet 2 for 1997, but couldn't figure out how to transfer the row and column formatting from Sheet 1 (1996), so I gave up and decided just to use Writer tables. It took me a lot of work to format the cells in Sheet 1 and I was trying to avoid having to duplicate the effort for Sheet 2. I tried to get the data into Writer where I understand better how to do things, but I can't get the data from Calc into Writer as a Writer table. I can select the cells in Calc and copy to the clipboard, but when I paste into Writer it comes in as a graphic, not as a table. How can get the data into Writer as text or as a Writer table? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Copy and paste from Calc to Writer
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:57:19 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: How can get the data into Writer as text or as a Writer table? Never mind. Paste Special Unformatted text. Oddly, the first time I tried this it didn't work. Now it does. Oh well. Just pay no attention to anything said here by the blond boy. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Copy and paste from Calc to Writer
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:53:37 -0400 Richard Detwiler rldetwi...@frontiernet.net dijo: On 6/27/2011 5:57 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: I finished 1996 and there are 35 rows. I tried to use Sheet 2 for 1997, but couldn't figure out how to transfer the row and column formatting from Sheet 1 (1996), so I gave up and decided just to use Writer tables. It took me a lot of work to format the cells in Sheet 1 and I was trying to avoid having to duplicate the effort for Sheet 2. The easiest way to do what you had tried to do in Calc would be to copy Sheet1 (1996) to a new sheet. Two ways to do this are: Is there any way to punch just the formatting through from Sheet 1 to Sheets 2-12? I ask that just for future reference. I am doing it all in Writer now and I am much happier. Along the way I remembered the difficulties I have had in the past trying to print from Calc. At least in Writer I know where the page margins are. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Changing footnote superscript
OOo 3.3 on Fedora 14, x86_64. The OOo is downloaded from Openoffice.org, not the version in the Fedora repositories. The superscript for a footnote is too small and too high. Selecting the footnote number and changing it with text formatting does not change it. I can't find any other place to change it. I can change the size and position of superscripts anywhere else either by directly applying character attributes or by modifying the style, but there seems to be no way to change the appearance of the superscript character for a footnote. Note that I am talking about the number that appears in the paragraph, not the number that appears in the footnote at the bottom of the page. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Changing footnote superscript
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:28:25 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: OOo 3.3 on Fedora 14, x86_64. The OOo is downloaded from Openoffice.org, not the version in the Fedora repositories. The superscript for a footnote is too small and too high. Selecting the footnote number and changing it with text formatting does not change it. I can't find any other place to change it. I can change the size and position of superscripts anywhere else either by directly applying character attributes or by modifying the style, but there seems to be no way to change the appearance of the superscript character for a footnote. Note that I am talking about the number that appears in the paragraph, not the number that appears in the footnote at the bottom of the page. Never mind. I finally found it. They are character styles. After modifying the character style for Footnote Anchor the footnote number now appears correctly. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Left and right pages
OOo 3.3.0 (from Openoffice.org) on Fedora 14, x86_64. I can't believe I am unable to figure out how to do this. I need a header that alternates on left and right pages. I tried using the page style Right Page, but the header tab has a grayed out checkbox for Same Content Right/Left. I can't uncheck it. I tried creating new page styles, which allows me to uncheck the Same Content Right/Left checkbox for the new left page style, but not for the new right page style. I can't find a document setup option where I can specify right and left facing pages. Obviously I am not looking in the right place. What is the secret for alternating right and left pages? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Can I tweak word completion?
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. Word completion is not working very well. 1) It takes words from text that is pasted in from other sources. This adds a lot of words that I will never actually type myself. Is there a way to tell it to take just words that I type? 2) It is constantly adding typographical errors that I type, and frequently parts of words, or numbers and parts of numbers. E.g., perusing the list in Tools Autocorrect Word Completion I find entries like verb-ADVERB (a typo where I hit the caps-lock key before the A), Collins2000 (an incorrect citation added by Zotero) and 692 (a number that I typed in a table). A solution would be to tell it not to accept a word unless I tell it to do so manually after typing it, like a keystroke shortcut that I can use right after typing a word. That way I can make it keep only the words that I really need it to save and eliminate the trash. I can't find this option, or any other way to make it less annoying. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Can I tweak word completion?
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. Word completion is not working very well. 1) It takes words from text that is pasted in from other sources. This adds a lot of words that I will never actually type myself. Is there a way to tell it to take just words that I type? 2) It is constantly adding typographical errors that I type, and frequently parts of words, or numbers and parts of numbers. E.g., perusing the list in Tools Autocorrect Word Completion I find entries like verb-ADVERB (a typo where I hit the caps-lock key before the A), Collins2000 (an incorrect citation added by Zotero) and 692 (a number that I typed in a table). A solution would be to tell it not to accept a word unless I tell it to do so manually after typing it, like a keystroke shortcut that I can use right after typing a word. That way I can make it keep only the words that I really need it to save and eliminate the trash. I can't find this option, or any other way to make it less annoying. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] File New Text Document not using default template
OOo 3.3.0 from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. This is not the OOo from the Fedora repositories. Every time I open a new document with File New Text Document I have to go into the Styles menu and change the line spacing from Single to Fixed, 14 pt. The Default style in Default.ott is set to Fixed, 14 pt, so apparently OOo is not using Default.ott for the default template. Going into File Templates Edit shows the Default.ott template as located in ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. I can't find any other Default template. In Tools Options Paths the path for templates is ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. However, when I go into File New Templates and Documents I get a dialog box with icons on the left for New Document, Templates, My Documents, and Samples. The Default.ott template is in Templates. But in New Document there is a Text Document template. Opening a new file with that template gives me the incorrect style information. So apparently this is the template that is being used for File New Text Document. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to edit the Text Document template. The Edit button is grayed out. Surely there is a way to change the default style for the new document template. Can someone tell me how? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: File New Text Document not using default template
On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:56:09 -0700 RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo: John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.3.0 from OOo on Fedora 14, x86_64. This is not the OOo from the Fedora repositories. Every time I open a new document with File New Text Document I have to go into the Styles menu and change the line spacing from Single to Fixed, 14 pt. The Default style in Default.ott is set to Fixed, 14 pt, so apparently OOo is not using Default.ott for the default template. Going into File Templates Edit shows the Default.ott template as located in ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. I can't find any other Default template. In Tools Options Paths the path for templates is ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/template. However, when I go into File New Templates and Documents I get a dialog box with icons on the left for New Document, Templates, My Documents, and Samples. The Default.ott template is in Templates. But in New Document there is a Text Document template. Opening a new file with that template gives me the incorrect style information. So apparently this is the template that is being used for File New Text Document. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to edit the Text Document template. The Edit button is grayed out. Surely there is a way to change the default style for the new document template. Can someone tell me how? If you open the Default template that is shown in the Templates directory, does it have the settings you wish? If so then from a blank document do File Templates Organize . In the pop-up window on the left site select the Default template. On the right side use the Command button then select Set as default template. Just having the template named Default does not make it the default that is used. Thanks! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Stop table toolbar from popping up
I had this fixed, but I had to upgrade 3.2.1 to 3.3.0, and in the process had to create a new ~/.openoffice.org folder. Now, every time I put the cursor in a table the damn table toolbar pops up. I have forgotten how to make it stay away permanently. Can anyone remind me? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Can't get rid of word completion entries
This is OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14 x86_64. OOo is from openoffice.org, not from the Fedora repositories. I keep deleting them in Tools AutoCorrect Options Word Completion. Initially they stay away, but eventually they come back. And it's not because I have retyped them; for example, many are typos. Where are they coming from? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: How to turn off automatic numbering permanently?
On Sun, 15 May 2011 11:41:16 +0100 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: but now I can't find the setting in Tools Options to turn it off permanently again. That's because it's not in Tools | Options... ! Can someone please point out where the setting is? Remove the tick from Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Options | Apply numbering - symbol: *. Thanks! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Automatic URL recognition
OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories. In Tools AutoCorrect Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there something else that I need to uncheck somewhere? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Automatic URL recognition
On Sun, 15 May 2011 18:38:23 +0100 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 10:22 15/05/2011 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.3.0 on Fedora 14, x86_64, from OOo, not from repositories. In Tools AutoCorrect Options I have unchecked URL Recognition, yet Writer still makes an URL underlined and clickable. Is there something else that I need to uncheck somewhere? There are two boxes against URL Recognition, one for typing and the other for modifying. Have you unticked both - or the appropriate one for your purposes? Yes, both boxes are unchecked. It does not underline and make clickable a link that I type. But if there is a link in text copied and pasted into the Writer document it still underlines it and makes it clickable. This happens even if I paste special. The only way to get rid of it is to take the time to go to Format Default Formatting. Even just double-clicking on the paragraph style in the Styles toolbar does not change it; I have to go to Format Default Formatting to get rid of it. It is time-consuming and annoying, especially considering that I use Writer only for writing academic papers that will be printed on paper. As far as I know there is no way to click on a paper document, yet the underlining and colored text still appear on the paper. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Where are my dictionary additions?
I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.3.0 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64. Over the years I have added a lot of technical terms of my field, as well as names of people who I often cite. During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 it became necessary to abandon my old ~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old folder is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied years of Autocorrect entries to the new folder, as well as numerous other settings. But my spell checker now flags things that I know I added to my custom dictionary settings. Where are my dictionary additions and how can I restore them? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] How to turn off automatic numbering permanently?
During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 to 3.3.0 (from OOo, not from the repositories, on Fedora 14 x86_64) it became necessary to abandon my old ~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old folder is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied many settings from the old folder, but now if I hit Enter at the end of a paragraph that is numbered Writer is assuming that I want the next paragraph numbered as well. I had this permanently turned off before, but now I can't find the setting in Tools Options to turn it off permanently again. Can someone please point out where the setting is? -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] (SOLVED) Re: Re: Where are my dictionary additions?
On Sat, 14 May 2011 19:40:22 -0700 RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo: John Jason Jordan wrote: I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.3.0 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64. Over the years I have added a lot of technical terms of my field, as well as names of people who I often cite. During a recent upgrade from 3.2.1 it became necessary to abandon my old ~/.openoffice.org folder and let OOo create a new one. (The old folder is intact, just renamed.) I successfully copied years of Autocorrect entries to the new folder, as well as numerous other settings. But my spell checker now flags things that I know I added to my custom dictionary settings. Where are my dictionary additions and how can I restore them? Look in the ~/.openoffice.org/3/user/wordbook . Thanks! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] OOo minimizes to the panel, but can't restore to the screen
OOo 3.3.0 installed a couple of days ago on Fedora 14 x86_64, up to date. OOo is from www.openoffice.org, not from the Fedora repositories. It replaces OOo 3.2.1, also from www.openoffice.org, removed first with yum remove openoffice. I can minimize a document to the Gnome panel, but nothing I can do will restore the document to the screen. I have to close it and then restart OOo. Since forever OOo has had problems with the Gnome desktop. In the past the problem was just that it never gained focus when restored from the panel. You had to click on the window to give it focus. However, this is new, and renders OOo almost unusable. Please, someone, tell me this is a setting somewhere that I can fix. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Help! Zotero is broken!
I have been using Zotero for years; currently on Fedora 14, x86_64, up to date. I was using OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, not from the Fedora repositories), but after encountering problems with Zotero I uninstalled 3.2.1 and installed 3.3.0, again from OOo. Unfortunately, the problems remain the same as they were with 3.2.1. I have no problem with Zotero in Firefox. I can add and edit entries without problem. But attempting to use Zotero in OOo crashes OOo. That is, I can open the Zotero toolbar, but clicking on any of the icons crashes OOo. I went into Tools Extension Manager and clicked on Check for Updates, but it said there were no updates for the Zotero addon, which is version 3.5a1. Then I attempted to uninstall the Zotero extension, but that crashes OOo also. And it crashes OOo without uninstalling the extension, so when I relaunch OOo the extension is still installed. This happened with 3.2.1 and continues to happen with 3.3.0. I have a paper due in a week and I need to get Zotero working again ASAP. Any help or suggestions welcome! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote: I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it. After installing it I added: exclude=openoffice.org* To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available. All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced that: openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on this package, but I added: exclude=openoffice.org-ure-* openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when excluding. The following line works fine: exclude=openoffice.org-ure Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the package. I have tried: exclude=openoffice.org-ure exclude=openoffice.org-ure* exclude=openoffice.org-ure- exclude=openoffice.org-ure-* exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a long time: exclude=openoffice.org* And the Software Update utility still shows: openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) As available for update. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:25:47 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: Hello John, On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote: I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it. After installing it I added: exclude=openoffice.org* To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available. All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced that: openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on this package, but I added: exclude=openoffice.org-ure-* openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when excluding. The following line works fine: exclude=openoffice.org-ure Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the package. I have tried: exclude=openoffice.org-ure exclude=openoffice.org-ure* exclude=openoffice.org-ure- exclude=openoffice.org-ure-* exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a long time: exclude=openoffice.org* And the Software Update utility still shows: openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) As available for update. this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine: exclude=openoffice.org-ure on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is the only one that conflicts in version mumber. On the notebook I have this line only: exclude=openoffice* and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3). Try if it works leaving only that line. OK, I am figuring something out here, except I'm not sure exactly how it works. Apparently the /etc/yum.conf file can contain only a certain number of exclude lines, and maybe they have to be in a certain order. Or something. I actually have two things I want to exclude: One is anything relating to OOo, and the other is anything related to VLGothic fonts (for Japanese). I've tried all kinds of exclude lines, and no combination can seem to exclude everything. For years I had just: exclude=openoffice.org* Then I added just a few days ago: exclude=VLGothic-fonts-* After adding the VLGothic line is when the Software Update GUI started showing me the openoffice.org-ure package. My current theory is that it reads only the last exclude line and disregards all exclude lines before it. Here is the exact total of my /etc/yum.conf file: --- [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum keepcache=0 debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log exactarch=1 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=1 plugins=1 installonly_limit=3 # This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not having correct # information. # It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour (yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d #exclude=openoffice.org* #exclude=openoffice.org-ure* #exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) #exclude=VLGothic-fonts-* exclude=openoffice* exclude=VLGothic* --- And with the above settings the Software Update utility presents me with the openoffice.org-ure package, but not the VLGothic fonts package. If I reverse the last two exclude lines it shows me the VLGothic fonts package, but not the openoffice.org-ure package. So perhaps there is a bug in the way the Software Update utility reads the file, or in Yum, or someplace. Or maybe I need to change a setting somewhere to make it respect all the exclude lines. Or something else is wrong. At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but if anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: (SOLVED) Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:07:49 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but if anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know. try man yum.conf exclude List of packages to exclude from updates or installs. This should be a space separated list. Shell globs using wildcards (eg. * and ?) are allowed. notice the space separated list. So yours should be exclude=openoffice* VLGothic* That worked! I didn't know there was a man page for yum.conf. Thanks for figuring it out for me! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] What is openoffice.org-ure?
I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it. After installing it I added: exclude=openoffice.org* To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available. All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced that: openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on this package, but I added: exclude=openoffice.org-ure-* To the /etc/yum.conf file anyway. However, it had no effect. Software Update still stubbornly insists that I must install this update. In the Software Update GUI the package is titled UNO Runtime Environment. How can I get the Software Update utility to leave me alone? And please note that I am aware that there are later versions of OOo available, but I am not interested. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] What is openoffice.org-ure?
I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it. After installing it I added: exclude=openoffice.org* To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available. All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced that: openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64) Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on this package, but I added: exclude=openoffice.org-ure-* To the /etc/yum.conf file anyway. However, it had no effect. Software Update still stubbornly insists that I must install this update. In the Software Update GUI the package is titled UNO Runtime Environment. How can I get the Software Update utility to leave me alone? And please note that I am aware that there are later versions of OOo available, but I am not interested. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Bibliographic database in writer.
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:29:09 -0400 E. Paul Wileyto e...@mail.med.upenn.edu dijo: Is there any way to import entries to the bibliographic database from EndNote, or one of the other bibliographic formats? I don't know if there is a way to import from EndNote, but I do know that Zotero is awesome for academic citations and references. Zotero is composed of two plugins: One for Firefox (doesn't work with any other browser), and the other for either MS Word or OOo Writer. Zotero maintains your reference list on your own computer, but viewing it is web based (hence the Firefox plugin). You can enter items manually or by clicking on a Zotero icon on a web page where the work is listed (Amazon, your school library, etc.). Having added the references, the Writer plugin adds a Zotero toolbar that allows you to enter citations from your references list. At the end you can generate a references list from all the citations used in the document. The references list can be in any standard format (APA, PMLA, etc.). The Writer plugin takes care of all the formatting, although occasionally I have had to tweak an entry. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Zotero
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:04:28 +0100 Joep L. Blom jlb...@neuroweave.nl dijo: Hi, It is after 3 years that I again pose a problem on this list. I'm using Open Office 3.2 with Ubuntu Lucid Lynx (10.04) on a 64-bit system. I'm writing a book for which I need to make a bibliography. Several users promoted zotero as an ideal bibliography instrument. I installed it, even succeeded to install the add-on in OO and see the plug-in installed in the ad-ins list. However, the promised buttons are nowhere to see in my open office display. Can anybody help me to get the zotero buttons on my OO-window. I need it rather urgently as I am stuck with a load of references which I want to organize. Try View Toolbars Add-on 4. You can ask me why they called it Add-on 4 instead of Zotero, but if I gave you an answer I'd have to make it up. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
Re: [users] Re: Re: What happened to my dictionaries?
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 07:22:00 +0100 Thomas Lange thomas.la...@oracle.com dijo: Hi all, For the details about what language entries get listed can be found in the following spec http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.odt in the section named 'Dynamic Language List Generation for Context Menu'. Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English is always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and ... Sometimes when I go into Tools Language I get the option of English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes), never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is no consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary installed. ... At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no difference. The only way I can create a new document with the Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text. ... Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does anyone have any idea what to look for? There is nothing messed up. From your description above it still looks like everything works as designed. For the details about what language entries get listed those can be found in the following spec http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/linguistic/Set_Language_Attribute_for_Text.odt in the section named 'Dynamic Language List Generation for Context Menu'. The list of languages displayed is populated considereing various OOo user settings, the text at the cursor position (i.e. language guessing, which can even suggest languages that are not installed), the languages already used in the document, and for Windows the keyboard language as well. Please note that the shorter a text is the more likely it is for language guessing to fail an suggest seemingly arbitrary languages. Aside from that it is as has already been said: to create a document in a specific language either go to 'ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages' or use the 'For all text' entry from Settings'ToolsLanguages'. Thank you. Now I understand at least why Portuguese kept appearing in the list under Tools Language For All Text, even though I have no Portuguese dictionaries installed. Apparently it is language guessing, and it guesses regardless of whether you have a dictionary installed for the language it is guessing. I just tried it and you can even set the entire document to a language without ever installing a dictionary for that language. Not sure what the purpose would be, though. However, I still can't believe it takes six mouse clicks and seven or eight more in scrolling to set the language of a new document to Spanish. That is, unless I set the default for new documents to Spanish, and then it will take six mouse clicks and seven or eight more in scrolling to set a new document to English. I suppose I am supposed to install a keyboard for every language I write in, as Windows is designed to expect. But I use Linux, where the compose key makes extra keyboards pretty much unnecessary. So without installing a Spanish keyboard OOo won't pick up Spanish and display it as an option in Tools Language For All Text. I also tried experimenting with the language guessing. I opened a new document in the default (English), then typed a couple sentences in Spanish. Tools Language For All Text then offered me English, Portuguese, Italian and Catalán, but no Spanish. I guess OOo isn't very good at guessing. I suppose I could macro all the mouse clicks, but it seems that the user interface wasn't designed with ease of use in mind. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Re: What happened to my dictionaries?
On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:03:55 - Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com dijo: Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does anyone have any idea what to look for? If I open a new text document Tools Language still does not list Spanish until I go into Tools Options Language Settings and select Spanish just for the new document. This is a pain. I can't believe this is by design. Whatever dictionaries are installed should appear in Tools Language for all documents all the time. Under ToolsLangauge there are three options: 1. For all text. If you select this you get taken to the same place as if you had chosen ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages and we get into the previous discussion about ticks and superscripted ABC's. One issue that may be contributing to the problem is that when I go into Tools Options Language Settings Languages under Default languages for documents Western English (with ABC tick) is always selected as the default. I can change it to Spanish (with ABC tick), but whenever I open a new text document English is always there. However, at the top of the drop-down [None] is an option. Perhaps if it would default to [None] I would be able to select a language other than English from within the document instead of having to go to Tools Options Language Settings Languages. I wish I knew how to get it to default to [None]. 2 3 The other two options, For Selection (greyed out if no text is selected) and For Paragraph work the same way: If you click More (for more languages) you get taken to the pane you get when you do FormatCharacter. This is because language is a property of Character (don't ask, I don't understand either). On this pane click the Font tab and, in the middle of the resulting panel you'll see Language. Here you now have the same drop down list as before and the discussion applies about ticks and superscripted ABC's. Choosing a language here affects the current paragraph or selection depending on which option you chose. For 2 3 neither is grayed out, whether text is selected or not. But all they offer me is English, None, do not check spelling, and More... The More... choice takes me to the Tools Options Language Settings Languages dialog box. I also have exactly the same options when I select For all text. Moreover, I have no Portuguese dictionaries installed, yet occasionally Tools Language shows Portuguese as an option. But I'll bet there's no tick/superscripted ABC. No, there is not for Portuguese, because I do not have a Portuguese dictionary installed. That is what is weird. Occasionally (at random) Portuguese will appear in Tools Language (under any of the three options). And sometimes Spanish does appear as an option in Tools Language, even without going into Tools Options Language Settings. Perhaps this depends on a recent usage scheme remembered by Writer ? Interesting theory. The documentation is silent about such a feature. I think there is something messed up, but I don't know where to look. Also, at the *bottom* of the Writer window in what I think is called the Status Bar, are several boxes. Left to right on my system these are 1. An indication of which page I'm in within the document. 2. An indication of what I think is the current page style. Right clicking on this allows you to select a new page style e.g. Landscape. 3. An indication of the current language. Clicking on this (left or right click) brings up a list of interesting options. Among these is one that lets you select the language for the current paragraph or selection :-) :-) . IMHO this is a much more convenient way of handling multi-lingual documents. 4-n. Other things irrelevant to this discussion. Good point! I practically never look at the status bar, so I was unaware that you could click on the language displayed there to select a different one. However, it gives me the same limitations as Tools Language, although the only option is Paragraph; it does not offer Selection or All Text. I think that part of the confusion here is that the list of languages is *always* the same. It's in alphabetical order regardless of which dictionaries you have installed. The available languages (available in the sense that you have the dictionary installed and can therefore do spell checking) are only indicated by the ticks/superscripted ABCs. I suppose there's an argument for the available languages to be forced to the top of the list but ... Yes, I observed that also. It does not bother me that the ABC-ticked languages are still alphabetically ordered in the list. What bothers me is that I have to go four layers deep to change the language, and even then all I can change it for is the current document. Tools Language (or clicking on the status bar) should always show all ABC-ticked languages for Selection, Paragraph, and All Text. Someone else said that I should rename ~/.openoffice to get a new one, in order to be sure it is not
Re: [users] Re: What happened to my dictionaries?
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:32:54 - Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com dijo: John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote in message news:20110206180124.35732718@Devil8... OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org (not repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. Under Tools Language there are three choices: For Selection For Paragraph For All Text Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English is always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and More ... Clicking on More... gets me the Language dialog box in Options, which allow me to set the language of the User Interface, and of the Locale Setting. I can also set the default language for documents. But there seems to be no way to set optional dictionaries. I have the English, Spanish and French dictionaries installed in /opt/openoffice.org3/share/extension/install/. Sometimes when I go into Tools Language I get the option of English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes), never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is no consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary installed. At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no difference. The only way I can create a new document with the Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text. Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does anyone have any idea what to look for? If you go into ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages, then in the right hand pane is the Default language for documents. The section there labelled Western has a drop-done box containing a list of languages. Take a look at that list. Many languages are shown. Some have a little blue tick (check mark) superscripted to its left by ABC. The dictionary for a listed language is installed and recognised on your system *if and only if* that tick/ABC is present for the language in question. In that dialog box Spanish - Spain is checked and it has the ABC in front of it. To write a document in Spanish, go to the above menu choice and select Spanish from the drop-down list. When you have chosen Spanish from the drop-down list check for the tick/ABC. If it's there OK; if not you need to install the Spanish dictionary extension (I'd kill the Quickstarter before installing the dictionary and then kill and restart OOo Writer Quickstarter afterwards but many on this list would say that's unnecessary). Once the Spanish dictionary is selected and *recognised*, choose Only for this document. Spanish spell checking should now work. That does work, but apparently I have to go into Tools Options every time I want to create a document in Spanish. If after all this you still have problems, come back here with more details. If I open a new text document Tools Language still does not list Spanish until I go into Tools Options Language Settings and select Spanish just for the new document. This is a pain. I can't believe this is by design. Whatever dictionaries are installed should appear in Tools Language for all documents all the time. Moreover, I have no Portuguese dictionaries installed, yet occasionally Tools Language shows Portuguese as an option. And sometimes Spanish does appear as an option in Tools Language, even without going into Tools Options Language Settings. I think there is something messed up, but I don't know where to look. Oh, is your OOo the generic one or some special version from a Fedora repository? I have no idea if this makes a difference in this case but, from reading this list for a while, it has done in other areas of OOo's behaviour on different Linuxes (Linices?). It is OOo 3.2.1, OOO320m18 (Build: 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. It was installed by downloading from OOo, not from the repositories. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: What happened to my dictionaries?
On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:52:29 +1100 Russell Butler russ...@rj-il-butler.com dijo: On 08/02/11 04:43, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 10:32:54 - Harold Fuchshwfa.gmanen...@gmail.com dijo: John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com wrote in message news:20110206180124.35732718@Devil8... OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org (not repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. Under Tools Language there are three choices: For Selection For Paragraph For All Text Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English is always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and More ... Clicking on More... gets me the Language dialog box in Options, which allow me to set the language of the User Interface, and of the Locale Setting. I can also set the default language for documents. But there seems to be no way to set optional dictionaries. I have the English, Spanish and French dictionaries installed in /opt/openoffice.org3/share/extension/install/. Sometimes when I go into Tools Language I get the option of English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes), never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is no consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary installed. At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no difference. The only way I can create a new document with the Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text. Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does anyone have any idea what to look for? That does work, but apparently I have to go into Tools Options every time I want to create a document in Spanish. It is OOo 3.2.1, OOO320m18 (Build: 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. It was installed by downloading from OOo, not from the repositories. Just a suggestion, could you make a template with the language set to Spanish and use that for when you want to do a whole new Spanish document? Thanks for the suggestion. That does make it a bit easier when the entire document will be in Spanish. But I still need sometimes to write different sections of the same document in different languages, so I still need to be able to get to the Spanish dictionary setting in an English document. I still think something is messed up. Either that or the OOo user interface is hopeless. I can't believe you have to go into Tools Options to change a document, and then you can change only the entire document, not just parts of it. As international as OOo is, this just can't be true. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: What happened to my dictionaries?
On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:02:33 -0500 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo: You can also use Character styles to write words in different languages in the same paragraph. You can create custom character styles to do this just like you can create custom paragraph styles for various languages. I use styles all the time, and have many of my own defined. And there lies the problem with using styles to change the language - I'd have to duplicate all my styles. And again for other languages. Yes, it could be done, but it's a clumsy workaround. Plus, without being able to set text to a language you lose the spell checker, hyphenation and thesaurus. Rather than figure out workarounds I'd like to fix what is wrong with my OOo so it works like it is supposed to. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] What happened to my dictionaries?
OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org (not repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. Under Tools Language there are three choices: For Selection For Paragraph For All Text Regardless of which I select, the language options change. English is always available, as are None - Do not check spelling and More ... Clicking on More... gets me the Language dialog box in Options, which allow me to set the language of the User Interface, and of the Locale Setting. I can also set the default language for documents. But there seems to be no way to set optional dictionaries. I have the English, Spanish and French dictionaries installed in /opt/openoffice.org3/share/extension/install/. Sometimes when I go into Tools Language I get the option of English (always) Spanish (sometimes), Portuguese (sometimes), never French, and sometimes two or three of the above. There is no consistency. And note that there is no Portuguese dictionary installed. At the moment I am trying to write a document in Spanish and the Spanish option does not appear. Closing and restarting OOo makes no difference. The only way I can create a new document with the Spanish language setting is to open a document that does have Spanish language set (done once when Spanish appeared in the menu), save under a new name, and delete all the text. Something is seriously messed up with the language settings. Does anyone have any idea what to look for? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] My files are posted on the net
I do not wish to post the link publicly, but I just discovered on the internet an early version of a copyrighted book that I wrote in OOo. This file never left my computer. In fact, after writing it in OOo I moved it to Scribus because of limitations in OOo, and then exported as PDF for printing. The first part of the link is www.openoffice.org/servlets/GetAtt..., which leads me to wonder if one of the numerous extensions and add-ons has somehow uploaded the file somewhere. I find that very difficult to believe, but I have no other explanation for how my work became posted on openoffice.org. I also need to find someone who can remove it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Managing Spaces
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 08:01:58 -0500 Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com dijo: On 1/31/2011 1:08 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:10:49 + Brian Barkerb.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: Hmm. You're right. I never tried it until just now, but it doesn't work with spaces. To search and replace spaces you must use regular expressions and use [\x0009 ] as the search term for a space and a regular space (spacebar) for the replace with term. ie; Find; .[\x0009 ][\x0009 ] Replace with: . Note: There is a space after the dot in Replace with. This works as needed. (I tested it.) But it doesn't work in AutoCorrect, presumably because AutoCorrect doesn't know about regular expressions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Managing Spaces
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:32:02 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 16:29 30/01/2011 -0900, Tim Johnson wrote: FYI: Using OO on Linux 10.04. [...] 1) She wants to see a warning mark if there is more than one space between a punctuation mark and a following letter. There are almost no circumstances in which a properly word-processed document should have consecutive spaces. (I'd say none, but I won't labour the point. Oh, and before anyone notices: this e-mail is not word-processed but is going out as plain text, so that suggestion doesn't apply!) One thing to do, then, is simply to use Find Replace to search for space-space and replace it with space. If you suspect more than two consecutive spaces, either simply repeat the search or else search for space-space-plus and replace with space - this time ticking Regular expressions, which you will find hidden behind More Options. But if you really want to see what you describe, use Find Replace, again with Regular expressions ticked. In Search for, enter something like [.,:;?!] + - that's a list of the punctuation marks you are concerned with, enclosed in (square) brackets, followed by two spaces and a plus sign. Now click Find All and all your occurrences will be selected (and highlighted). You can close the Find Replace window to help you see what you have found. 2) She wants to be notified if there is a space before or after a hyphen. With Regular expressions ticked, search for - |- | - - that's space hyphen space pipe hyphen space pipe space hyphen. Again, click Find All. 3) She wants to treat common abbreviations such as 'Mr.', 'Mrs.', 'Ms.', 'Inc.' as known words in such a way as - for example - if she types ' inc ' (delimited by whitespace) a warning mark would be rendered and/or the Spell Checker would catch it. Use AutoCorrect. Go to Tools | AutoCorrect Options... | Replace, and add the individual cases you require. Actually, AutoCorrect is what I would use for all the issues, not just ' inc '. Typing will be faster because she won't need a notification of, e.g., a double space after a period, and then have to deal with the notification, if the 'period plus double space' is simply automatically corrected to 'period plus space.' For years I have always used AutoCorrect to add my personal typos as I make them and the spell checker flags them. Most of my common typos are now automatically corrected on the fly for me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Managing Spaces
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 04:10:49 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 19:55 30/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: Actually, AutoCorrect is what I would use for all the issues, not just ' inc '. Typing will be faster because she won't need a notification of, e.g., a double space after a period, and then have to deal with the notification, if the 'period plus double space' is simply automatically corrected to 'period plus space.' I'd imagined that the questioner was talking about existing documents with surplus spaces, in fact, not just correcting them as they are inadvertently typed. But for what it's worth, I can't make AutoCorrect do this. Perhaps not surprisingly, entering dot-space-space for Replace and dot-space for With doesn't seem to produce the desired effect. Hmm. You're right. I never tried it until just now, but it doesn't work with spaces. Under another tab there is an option to Ignore Spaces. I didn't try it, since that is the opposite of what we want. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:12:37 +0100 M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com dijo: 2011/1/24 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:55 +0100 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com dijo: It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I find this surprising. In Unix-like operating systems you have the Compose key (at least if your desktop environment is Gnome), which is useful for things like this. What you do is that you define a Compose key (I use the otherwise useless Caps Lock for that, but other options are available). It works like this: Press your Compose key → release it → press → release → press O → release → the result is Ö. Looks complicated, but just try it. You need to press three keys to create an Ö or any of the other characters, like á, ë, œ, Ø, ø and so on. This is what I was looking for. I assumed it would be in OOo, but this is even better because it is system-wide. I use Gnome on Fedora 14, but I have never looked at the keyboard settings. Using your suggestion I changed the useless Windows key to a compose key and now I can get the diacritics I need. The only things I am lacking are ¿, and ¡. I can't figure out what the secret key is to get those. E.g., for á I type press the Windows key, type an apostrophe and then the a. The Windows compose key turns the apostophe into a dead key for the acute accent, so the secret key is the apostrophe. But I can't figure out what the secret keys for ¿ and ¡ are. There must be a table somewhere in the Gnome documentation, but I can't find it. John Jason, on my 105-key standard Scandinavian keyboard with Ubuntu 10.10 installed, «¡» is obtained by holding the «Alt-Gr» key down and pressing «1» (on my keyboard, «Shift + 1» gives «!») and «¿» by doing «Alt Gr + Shift + +» (on my keyboard, «Shift + +» gives «?»). Hope this helps !... Apparently the Alt-Gr key is enabled when you select the Scandinavian keyboard. With the US keyboard it is not, but as I discovered you can set it to any key in System Preferences Keyboard Layouts Options. I could have set it to the right Alt key, but I decided to use the otherwise useless Windows key instead. As it turns out I finally found the solution. I type the Windows key *plus the shift key*, then the ? key (which requires shift again). Ditto for the ¡. I finally found the table I was looking for. I don't know why the Gnome people didn't include it in the Help, but here it is: http://hermit.org/Linux/ComposeKeys.html There are lots of other things you can do with the Compose key. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:26:44 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64. I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each side): { Ō } { Ŏ } { Ŭ } { AU } I hope there is someone here who understands the formula syntax, because it sure has me confused. To create the large braces, you need the stack instruction and one fewer hash marks: left lbrace alignc stack { aaa # b # cc # d } right rbrace I don't see any way to insert special characters in the formula (Math) window itself. But it is perfectly possible to do so in a text (Writer) window - which I imagine you are composing in anyway - and then copy and paste them into the formula window. By doing this, I have been able to create exactly the effect and with the characters and diacritics you describe. You can change fonts at Format | Fonts... using Modify. I trust this helps. That helped a lot! It was the stack that I was missing. I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. They work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula. However, I found a workaround. Using breve in front of the ones with the short mark and overline on the ones with the macron the result is just about perfect. Close enough that no one will notice that the breve and overline in the formula are not exactly the same as the combining diacritics built into the font. I just have two small issues left: 1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great. The regular text in the document is set at 14 points fixed leading, and it would be great to be able to set the lines in the stack to the same. But it's a formula, so if the leading doesn't match exactly it's not the end of the world. But at the moment the lines look like about 20 points, which looks odd. 2) The AU on the bottom line is kerned too far apart. I tried setting the kerning with character formatting but, like the other formatting things I tried, regular text formatting does not work inside a formula. Is there a way to adjust letter spacing in a formula? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:05:52 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 09:50 23/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each side): [...] I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. They work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula. That's a pity. Do persevere: they certainly worked for me (3.1.1 on Windows XP). I used the Unicode characters you mentioned, and they worked in the default Times New Roman Italic. While adjusting spacing per your suggestion below I noted that Text Mode was not checked. I checked it hoping that it would resolve the problem, but it had no effect. I don't know what Text Mode does, actually. But the breve and overline work well enough. I just have two small issues left: 1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great. Go to Format | Spacing..., under Category select Spacing, and reduce the value for Line spacing. The inter-character spacing was set to 15%. After setting it to 0% the character spacing is still a little wider than normal text, but so slightly that I am the only one who would ever notice. However, the line spacing was already set to 0%, and you can't enter a negative number. I'm still stuck with too much line spacing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:55 +0100 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com dijo: It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I find this surprising. In Unix-like operating systems you have the Compose key (at least if your desktop environment is Gnome), which is useful for things like this. What you do is that you define a Compose key (I use the otherwise useless Caps Lock for that, but other options are available). It works like this: Press your Compose key → release it → press → release → press O → release → the result is Ö. Looks complicated, but just try it. You need to press three keys to create an Ö or any of the other characters, like á, ë, œ, Ø, ø and so on. This is what I was looking for. I assumed it would be in OOo, but this is even better because it is system-wide. I use Gnome on Fedora 14, but I have never looked at the keyboard settings. Using your suggestion I changed the useless Windows key to a compose key and now I can get the diacritics I need. The only things I am lacking are ¿, and ¡. I can't figure out what the secret key is to get those. E.g., for á I type press the Windows key, type an apostrophe and then the a. The Windows compose key turns the apostophe into a dead key for the acute accent, so the secret key is the apostrophe. But I can't figure out what the secret keys for ¿ and ¡ are. There must be a table somewhere in the Gnome documentation, but I can't find it. Thanks for the information! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Shortcuts for special characters
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are. I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash report already sent.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:52:57 -0600 Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com dijo: On 1/22/2011 6:25 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are. I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash report already sent.) I haven't had to deal with this, but how about an AutoCorrect that substitutes the special character given a character pair (or triplet) that would not ordinarily occur? I can remember long ago something where if you typed u: (for example), it would create the umlauted u. I thought of that, but I don't want AutoCorrrect to change the combination all the time. What if I want to type: 1. The correct item for the task would be a: (a) frying pan, (b) stew pot, etc. In the above the a: would get converted to ä. I found an extension called Compose Special Character, but it takes almost as many keystrokes as just typing the Unicode value. It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I find this surprising. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Shortcuts for special characters
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are. I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash report already sent.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Help with Insert Object Formula
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64. I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each side): { Ō } { Ŏ } { Ŭ } { AU } I need the diacritics over the characters and they must be added with the combining diacriticals in the font that I am using (Junicode). In case they didn't make it through the e-mail, the top O has a macron (U304), the second O and the U have short marks (U306), and the AU has no diacritics. The font does not contain these characters as combined glyphs so I must use the combining diacriticals. I cannot switch fonts. Although it doesn't appear in the e-mail, I need the stack center aligned. The best I have accomplished is this syntax: left lbrace alignc { # ̄ # O ̆ # U ̆ # AU } right rbrace This gives me a brace only on the bottom element, lots of ? marks, and an extra blank line in the middle. None of the combining diacriticals actually combine. Only the second element is center aligned. I hope there is someone here who understands the formula syntax, because it sure has me confused. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:53:15 -0500 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: How often do you need these special characters in your documents? I remember the Unicode option in Word. I like OOo's option better than trying to remember the Unicode number. You can see the special letter as your font would show it. I am working on a document that will be 20 pages of mixed English, Spanish and German. Insert Special Character would take forever. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:44:27 -0800 RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net dijo: Look under Tools- Customise there you will see a Keyboard tab. That list all the defined Keyboard short cuts and allows for some modification. I am not sure where it will allow what you need but it is a starting point. I already looked there. That tab allows you to define keyboard shortcuts for menu items, not for entering characters. I could macro the insertion of a character and then apply a shortcut to invoke the macro. I may end up having to do that, but it's a lot of hassle for something that I assumed would be built in. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 02:45:09 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 16:25 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are. Is http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/various_topics/Howto_special_char.pdf any help? Not really. It does not give any more options than I already knew about, none of which is very easy to use. But since it does not give any more options, and it is apparently an official OOo document, perhaps I can conclude that - as amazing as it seems to me - OOo does not have the feature I was looking for. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: PDF
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:38:41 -0800 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo: On 12/27/2010 09:31 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote: ... Okular (formerly KPDF) does a great job of opening PS files, and can save as PDF. You can also enter data in the fields of an editable PDF. It has issues with printing, however, although usually I can get what I want if I poke at it long enough - e.g., a landscape page prints as portrait, among other tribulations. ... xournal Does a wonderful job of filling in PDF application forms. I just filled in a 6 page 'print only PDF'. End result is that it looks like I filled out the form using an IBM Selectric typewrite :-) NoOp, you have helped me in the past, and now I must thank you yet again. What a wonderful tool! Moreover, I am one of the key promoters of a local Linux Clinic where we help people install Linux or fix their Linux computers. We have a semi-regular visitor who has a disability with hand control and needs to use a keyboard. She complains that she gets PDF files from government agencies that she has to fill out, but she can't do it in handwriting. I just turned her onto xournal and she is thrilled. Now she can just type in the blanks, export as a new PDF, and e-mail it back to the agency. Thanks again! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:13:50 + Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk dijo: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:20:03 -0800 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello John, I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just fine. Strange. All the reading I did indicated I'd have to install 32bit versions of the relevant .so files. Maybe I didn't read enough. I'm far from an expert on this subject, but after moving from four years of 64-bit Ubuntu to 64-bit Fedora last year I discovered that installing 32-bit apps in Fedora is trivial compared to the frequent hassles in Ubuntu. In fact, frequently the repositories show a 64-bit and a 32-bit version of the application. Installing 32-bit programs just works. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:54:35 -0500 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: I know that Adobe Reader shows up in the repositories for Ubuntu 10.10 and there are a number of other document viewers in Linux that can read PDF files. I use the default Document Viewer for my PDF reading. Then I use CUPS PDF printing options to create PDF files in Ubuntu/Linux and doPDF to create PDF files in Windows. There are advantages and disadvantages: CUPS-PDF rasterizes everything, so text cannot be searched. If that is not an issue, then it does a generally good job, and since you print to it you can create a PDF from any application that can print. The PDF files are also small, sometimes a consideration when sending in e-mails. Evince can open editable PDFs (PDF forms), but you cannot enter anything in the fields. Otherwise it is fine, and it has a good export to PS or PDF function. I frequently open large PDF files and use Evince to export to PDF, which usually results in a much smaller PDF file. Doing so also flattens a PDF that has transparency, which is often a problem when printing to non-Postscript printers. Okular (formerly KPDF) does a great job of opening PS files, and can save as PDF. You can also enter data in the fields of an editable PDF. It has issues with printing, however, although usually I can get what I want if I poke at it long enough - e.g., a landscape page prints as portrait, among other tribulations. Adobe Reader is the best, but it is proprietary, slow to load, and can't open PS files. Cabaret and Foxit are also proprietary, and sometimes tricky to get installed. I use them only if all of the above are being brats. Check out also GSView, a rather bare-bones viewer It can't open PS files, but does a fine job with PDFs. It uses Ghostscript for its engine, where I believe all the other open source readers use poppler libraries. Therefore, if you have a PDF that won't render well in the other open source readers, GSView may do the job. There is also PDFEdit, which is a GUI that allows you to rearrange pages - useful for simple impositions. You can also do some really minimal editing, but it's nowhere near as capable as Acrobat. I do a lot of DTP work, so I need all of the above. My first choice is Adobe Reader, followed by Okular, but if I need to do something special sometimes one of the other readers is better for the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 20:47:48 + Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk dijo: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:18:37 -0500 David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net wrote: Hello David, Double DANG! /I was twice wrong. /Foxit reader exists for Linux. I didn't find it for Mac. Indeed; I hadn't noticed lack of Mac build. The printing issue would appear to be because I run a pure 64 bit system, but the Foxit executable is 32 bit. Consequently, trying to load libraries will fail: Can't load 64 bit stuff into a 32 bit process. I have Foxit Reader installed on Fedora 14 x86_64. It prints just fine. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:26:42 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: Hello John, On Tuesday 30 November 2010, 00:55, John Jason Jordan wrote: [r...@devil8 RPMS]# yum localinstall ooobasis* openoffice* Loaded plugins: r...efresh-packagekit .snip Package openoffice.org3-calc-3.2.1-9502.x86_64.rpm is not signed Suspiros Any further suggestions? yes :-) yum localinstall --nogpgcheck ooobasis* openoffice* according to the help --nogpgcheck disable gpg signature checking so it won't matter if the packages are not signed. Thanks. Got it reinstalled now, and have added the correct exclude line in /etc/yum.conf so future upgrades won't overwrite any of the files. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo
I have OOo 3.2.1 installed on Fedora 14, x86_64 (Gnome). The version I installed was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora repositories. Yesterday I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, including a lot of updates since Fedora 14 was released. Today none of my launch menu items will launch the program. The program files appear to be intact in /opt/, but nothing works. From the command line I go to the folder containing (e.g.) swriter, type swriter, and get an error that there is no such command. I tried reinstalling, but yum said all the packages are already installed. That is, except I didn't reinstall the desktop integration package. I suspect reinstalling it might cure the problem, but I don't know which package to install: ...freedesktop-menus... ...mandriva-menus... ...redhat-menus... ...suse-menus... It's probably either freedesktop or redhat, but I don't want to install the wrong one. I can't remember which one I used before, and I can't find anything in the documentation. Can someone help me get my OOo working again? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo
I have OOo 3.2.1 installed on Fedora 14, x86_64 (Gnome). The version I installed was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora repositories. Yesterday I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, including a lot of updates since Fedora 14 was released. Today none of my launch menu items will launch the program. The program files appear to be intact in /opt/, but nothing works. From the command line I go to the folder containing (e.g.) swriter, type swriter, and get an error that there is no such command. I tried reinstalling, but yum said all the packages are already installed. That is, except I didn't reinstall the desktop integration package. I suspect reinstalling it might cure the problem, but I don't know which package to install: ...freedesktop-menus... ...mandriva-menus... ...redhat-menus... ...suse-menus... It's probably either freedesktop or redhat, but I don't want to install the wrong one. I can't remember which one I used before, and I can't find anything in the documentation. Can someone help me get my OOo working again? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:16:17 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: Hello John, On Monday 29 November 2010, 21:51, John Jason Jordan wrote: I have OOo 3.2.1 installed on Fedora 14, x86_64 (Gnome). The version I installed was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora repositories. Yesterday I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, including a lot of updates since Fedora 14 was released. Today none of my launch menu items will launch the program. The program files appear to be intact in /opt/, but nothing works. From the command line I go to the folder containing (e.g.) swriter, type swriter, and get an error that there is no such command. you do ] swriter or ]./swriter if the folder is not on the path, only the second one works. Both commands gave error messages that the command could not be found. I did the command from within the folder where the swriter binary is located. I tried reinstalling, but yum said all the packages are already installed. That is, except I didn't reinstall the desktop integration package. I suspect reinstalling it might cure the problem, You will have to edit /etc/yum.conf and add: exclude=openoffice.org-ure or better exclude=openoffice.org* in the [main] section Done. Although now that the Fedora 13 14 upgrade has taken place I probably have the wrong ure file. IMHO the better thing to do is a clean install. First remove everything: [r...@localhost ~]# yum erase openoffice.org* This worked, but threw errors on three packages, all with UNO in the name. then reinstall everything. Untar the package downloaded from OOo, go to the RPMS folder, do a [r...@localhost ~]# yum localinstall openoffice.org* Installed two or three packages, then errored out that everything else was already installed. I think you meant rpm, not yum. Yum would get everything from the repos. Rpm would install the packages in the folder, right? So I repeated yum erase openoffice.org* and then did rpm --install openoffice.org. This errored out on failed dependencies (oobasis3.2*). Then I decided to install with the setup script. I did ./setup. I got: [r...@devil8 OOO320_m18_native_packed-1_en-US.9502]# ./setup Checksumming... Extracting ... 96251 blocks Done. Using /var/tmp/install_4550/usr/java/jre1.6.0_20/bin/java java version 1.6.0_20 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode) Running installer /var/tmp/install_4550/usr/java/jre1.6.0_20/bin/java -DHOME=/root -DJRE_FILE=jre-6u20-linux-amd64.rpm -jar JavaSetup.jar System locale: en_US Root privileges OS: Linux Mode: installation No protocol specified Exception in thread main java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.initDisplay(Native Method) at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.access$100(Unknown Source) at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.awt.X11GraphicsEnvironment.clinit(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) at java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(Unknown Source) at sun.awt.X11.XToolkit.clinit(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Toolkit$2.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.ImageIcon.init(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.ImageIcon.init(Unknown Source) at org.openoffice.setup.ResourceManager.getIconFromPath(ResourceManager.java:149) at org.openoffice.setup.SetupFrame.init(SetupFrame.java:104) at org.openoffice.setup.Main.main(Main.java:54) [r...@devil8 then go to the desktop integration folder and install the one for RedHat (notice that the one for FreeDesktop should work, because Fedora is supposed to follow the FreeDesktop standard). I didn't get this far. But at least now I know to install the one for Redhat when I finally get OOo reinstalled. Gracias por la ayuda. Now I understand what caused the mess when I upgraded Fedora 13 to Fedora 14, and I have fixed the exclusions so it doesn't happen again. But I still need help to get OOo reinstalled. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Upgrade to Fedora 14 killed OOo
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:08:59 -0300 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo: try yum erase openoffice* ooobasis* (from within any directory) yum localinstall ooobasis* openoffice* (from within the RPMS dir. of the unpacked tar) hope it helps now! :-) Ariel, I am almost there. Here is what happened: Install 48 Package(s) Total size: 401 M Installed size: 401 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: [r...@devil8 RPMS]# yum localinstall ooobasis* openoffice* Loaded plugins: r...efresh-packagekit .snip Package openoffice.org3-calc-3.2.1-9502.x86_64.rpm is not signed Suspiros Any further suggestions? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Cross references in an index?
Using OOo 3.2.1 on Fedora 13, x86_64. I am trying to learn how to generate an index. I've pretty much figured out how to create index entries, but what if I want to create an index entry that just says See or See also followed by another index entry? For some reason the GUI confuses the heck out of me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Pagination and indexes
I am using 3.2.1 (downloaded from OOo) on Fedora 13 x86_64. I also use Scribus for laying out books. However, Scribus does not (yet) have an indexing feature. I have discovered that using Adobe Reader one can open a PDF (as exported from Scribus), then save from Reader as a text file. The text file will have page breaks at the end of each page of the PDF. The text file can then be opened in Writer, where Writer's indexing feature can create the index. Once the index is created it can be saved as a separate document and then imported into Scribus at the end of the document. The problem is the pagination. The text file does have a page break at the point where each page of the PDF ended, but sometimes the amount of text on a page in the PDF takes more than one page in Writer. Writer then flows the text onto an extra page. For example, as an experiment I opened an 11 page PDF in Reader, saved as text, and opened the text file in Writer. In Writer it was 14 pages. The first page of the PDF took about a page and a quarter, then Writer started a new page because of the page break. The second page of the PDF all fit on one page in Writer, but the third page took almost a page and a half so, again, Writer added a page. I'm trying to figure out some way to make Writer paginate only on the page breaks and not create extra pages. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Pagination and indexes
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:09:24 -0600 Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com dijo: On 11/17/2010 1:13 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: I am using 3.2.1 (downloaded from OOo) on Fedora 13 x86_64. I also use Scribus for laying out books. However, Scribus does not (yet) have an indexing feature. It sounds as if you're dealing only with text, and you're not going to need that once the index has been created. In that case, could you just set the font size small enough that the original text would always fit without flowing over the page boundary? Thanks. That is a good idea. It might be hard to read if the text is already small. However, I also figured I could just make the page size longer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Cross references in an index?
Using OOo 3.2.1 on Fedora 13, x86_64. I am trying to learn how to generate an index. I've pretty much figured out how to create index entries, but what if I want to create an index entry that just says See or See also followed by another index entry? For some reason the GUI confuses the heck out of me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Desperate! Upgrade to Fedora 13 killed OOo
I need OOo working by tomorrow evening when I have a presentation to deliver. I had OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org installed and running fine on Fedora 11 x86_64. I upgraded to Fedora 13. Afterwards none of the OOo applications will launch. I can't find the executables. Previous versions of OOo were in /opt, but I have scoured the folder and its subfolders with no luck. I installed using the setup script as root. I tried reinstalling but all I get is error messages that the packages are already installed. But where in the heck are they? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Desperate! Upgrade to Fedora 13 killed OOo
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:54:20 -0400 Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo: John Jason Jordan wrote: I need OOo working by tomorrow evening when I have a presentation to deliver. I had OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org installed and running fine on Fedora 11 x86_64. I upgraded to Fedora 13. Afterwards none of the OOo applications will launch. I can't find the executables. Previous versions of OOo were in /opt, but I have scoured the folder and its subfolders with no luck. I installed using the setup script as root. I tried reinstalling but all I get is error messages that the packages are already installed. But where in the heck are they? Fedora 13 should have its variation of OOo listed in the K Menu. But if you are looking for the OOo executables, they are probably in a bin folder in /etc. Search for soffice.bin using locate in a console. Did you keep a copy of OOo 3.2.1 when you upgraded to 13 from 11? If so, reinstall it. (You probably did not save a copy on a CD or flash drive.) Other choice: download the OOo 3.2.1 file from the OOo website. It is still available. This morning with a clear head I managed to fix the launch items. For some reason the upgrade from Fedora 11 to Fedora 13 killed the path to the executables, which are in /opt/openoffice.org3/program/. Now all I have to do is figure out if I still have the OOo version, or if the upgrade messed me up and installed the Fedora version. The Help About says that I have: OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 OOO320m18 (Build:9502) Copyright © 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. This product was created by Oracle, based on OpenOffice.org. OpenOffice.org acknowledges all community members, especially those mentioned at http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html. Bear in mind that when I had Fedora 11 x86_64 I uninstalled OOo from the Fedora repos and installed the OOo version. I did this long ago when the latest version was 3.1.1. Before I upgraded from Fedora 11 x86_64 to 13 x86_64 I downloaded 3.2.1 from OOo and used the setup shell script to install 3.2.1. So I had the OOo version before the upgrade to Fedora 13 x86_64. And I remember putting openoffice (or similar term) in some file somewhere called excludes to some such so that the Fedora updater would not keep telling me there was a new version, i.e., it's version in its repos. I probably still have the OOo version, but it would be nice to be sure. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Desperate! Upgrade to Fedora 13 killed OOo
I need OOo working by tomorrow evening when I have a presentation to deliver. I had OOo 3.2.1 from openoffice.org installed and running fine on Fedora 11 x86_64. I upgraded to Fedora 13. Afterwards none of the OOo applications will launch. I can't find the executables. Previous versions of OOo were in /opt, but I have scoured the folder and its subfolders with no luck. I installed using the setup script as root. I tried reinstalling but all I get is error messages that the packages are already installed. But where in the heck are they? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Zotero and OOo 3.2.1 and FF 3.5.9
Does anyone have Zotero working with OOo 3.2.1 and Firefox 3.5.9 or later on Linux? If so, can you tell me what versions of the FF and OOo plugins you have installed? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Broken Zotero
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:01 -0700 Julie Flaming julie.flam...@gmail.com dijo: I've been having huge Zotero problems for months! Glad to know it's not just me. Not sure about any answers for you, though. 8-( I finally succeeded in getting Zotero working in OOo 3.2.1 and Firefox 3.5.9 on Fedora 11. How to do it is kind of involved, but there is a thread on the Zotero forums where my trek is documented: http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/15016/firefox-could-not-load-the-component/#Comment_74429 I hope that helps someone else get Zotero working. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Broken Zotero
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:34:14 -0400 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: On 11/03/10 13:14, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:01 -0700 Julie Flaming julie.flam...@gmail.com dijo: I've been having huge Zotero problems for months! Glad to know it's not just me. Not sure about any answers for you, though. 8-( I finally succeeded in getting Zotero working in OOo 3.2.1 and Firefox 3.5.9 on Fedora 11. How to do it is kind of involved, but there is a thread on the Zotero forums where my trek is documented: http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/15016/firefox-could-not-load-the-component/#Comment_74429 I hope that helps someone else get Zotero working. I had to reinstall OOo and cannot get it to Stop Recovering Untitled 1. Did not have this before I tried Zotero on Ubuntu 10.10. What happens if you close OOo, then using your file browser search for Untitled 1, and when you find it, delete it. Then relaunch OOo. I think OOo automatically creates backup copies as well, but I've never needed them so I don't know where they are. The Help file should tell you. Also, if there is an Untitled 1 with the backups it should show up with the file browser search. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:26:12 +0100 Yann Barraud yann.barr...@gmail.com dijo: I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with Acrobat Reader for example). You should be able to do this, but it doesn't work due to a bug that has been in OOo for years and remains unfixed. Open a new, blank Writer document. From View Toolbars select Form Design and Form Controls. Using the Controls toolbar place some controls on the document that would contain text, e.g., a list box, a text box, etc. Right click on the control and select Control. This will bring up a dialog box where you can specify the properties for the control, including the font. When finished, export your form to a PDF, making sure that you check the box create PDF form. (The box is unchecked by default.) Now open your form in Adobe Reader. You will discover that your controls work, but the font will be Helvetica or some sans-serif face, rather than the font you specified in the control properties. This bug was reported and confirmed years ago, but no one has ever done anything about it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Upgrade 3.1.1 to 3.2.1 (Fedora)
I have OOo 3.1.1 installed (from OOo, not from repositories) on Fedora 11 x86_64. I have downloaded and untarred the x86_64 RPM for 3.2.1 from OOo. I have also made a full system backup and also made a copy of my .openoffice.org config folder. Before I install I have some dumb questions: 1) Do I have to uninstall 3.1.1 first, or will the new install overwrite the old? 2) If I need to uninstall, I could use a hand with the yum syntax, as I'm not very familiar with yum from the command line. There are a lot of packages and I need to be sure I get them all. I found numerous instructions on the net (all different), but I can tell that the syntax is wrong. 3) I have a ton of personal settings and extensions in ~/.openoffice.org. Are there any issues with 3.2.1? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Upgrade 3.1.1 to 3.2.1 (Fedora)
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 10:16:29 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: I have OOo 3.1.1 installed (from OOo, not from repositories) on Fedora 11 x86_64. I have downloaded and untarred the x86_64 RPM for 3.2.1 from OOo. I have also made a full system backup and also made a copy of my .openoffice.org config folder. Before I install I have some dumb questions: 1) Do I have to uninstall 3.1.1 first, or will the new install overwrite the old? 2) If I need to uninstall, I could use a hand with the yum syntax, as I'm not very familiar with yum from the command line. There are a lot of packages and I need to be sure I get them all. I found numerous instructions on the net (all different), but I can tell that the syntax is wrong. 3) I have a ton of personal settings and extensions in ~/.openoffice.org. Are there any issues with 3.2.1? No one answered, so I uninstalled OOo 3.1.1 and then used the setup script to install 3.2.1. I can now use OTF fonts based on Type 1 fonts, but a couple longstanding bugs remain unfixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Broken Zotero
I just upgraded my 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64 to 3.2.1 and I have discovered that Zotero is broken. I guess I had the old version of Zotero. So I used Extension Manager to uninstall it. Then I went to zotero.org and installed 2.09 to Firefox (upgrading whatever the old one was). And then I used the link on zotero.org to install the current OOo plugin. After restarting Firefox and OOo (several times) the Zotero plugin is working fine in Firefox, all all my existing references are still there, but it's not working in OOo. Extension Manager says Zotero OpenOffice Integration 3.0 is installed and enabled, but I can't find the toolbar or any other way to enter a citation or create a list of references. I bet it's just a setting somewhere, but I'll be darned if I can find it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Broken Zotero
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:31:26 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: I just upgraded my 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64 to 3.2.1 and I have discovered that Zotero is broken. I guess I had the old version of Zotero. So I used Extension Manager to uninstall it. Then I went to zotero.org and installed 2.09 to Firefox (upgrading whatever the old one was). And then I used the link on zotero.org to install the current OOo plugin. After restarting Firefox and OOo (several times) the Zotero plugin is working fine in Firefox, all all my existing references are still there, but it's not working in OOo. Extension Manager says Zotero OpenOffice Integration 3.0 is installed and enabled, but I can't find the toolbar or any other way to enter a citation or create a list of references. I finally found the toolbar. Some idiot decided that instead of calling it Zotero they should rename it Add-on 4. Seriously. But it still isn't working. When I click on any of the buttons I get a little beep and Firefox pops up a warning that it is unable to communicate with my word processor. The Zotero website leads me to believe that it is a problem with Java JRE, but I can't figure out how to solve it. I did install the latest Sun JRE 22, and now I no longer get a beep or warning from Firefox, but it still does not enter the citation or let me look at my list of references. And yes, I did go to Options Java and tell OOo to use the new JRE, and I did restart Firefox and OOo. If anyone has any idea how to get Zotero running with OOo 3.2.1 and Firefox 3.5.9 on Linux, I could use some help. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Broken Zotero
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:01 -0700 Julie Flaming julie.flam...@gmail.com dijo: I've been having huge Zotero problems for months! Glad to know it's not just me. Not sure about any answers for you, though. 8-( It's almost surely a Java problem. The Zotero forums are full of suggestions, and some of them have actually worked for some users. But I know nothing of programming, let alone Java. Figuring it out is not easy. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer
Firefox 4 is still in beta. The final release will not be until next year. I recommend going back to the latest stable release. I am using 3.5.9 and have no problems with Zotero. On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:11:45 -0500 Bruce Summitt u.nix.t...@gmail.com dijo: Sadly, Zotero does not appear to work in Firefox 4 (yet?). - Forwarded message -- From: John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com To: users@openoffice.org Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:11:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:45:42 +1300 Michael Adams mbad...@paradise.net.nz dijo: On Thursday 14 October 2010 01:06, Ekain Rojo Labaien wrote: I just want to know if endnote 9 is available in open office writer like in Microsoft word 2003, if I can cite in my text and as always endnote create the bibliography. And is it possible to carry all the references that I have create in word? Writer will recognize them? Thank you very much Zotero is very popular as a FOSS (GPL) alternative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero http://www.zotero.org/ Surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. It was recommended to me by a computer tutor at my University. Zotero is wonderful! Too bad so many are still struggling with that pathetic Endnote. -- UNixThis! registered Linux user number 526076 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have installed. Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different printer drivers (I have six Postscript printers installed, including one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color. If I print to paper on a plain Laserjet using the PCL driver all the text prints, but without font metrics, and only the bold prints in Vera Sans; somehow Times was substituted for the regular. If I print to the same printer using the (genuine Adobe) Postscript driver all the text prints, but Courier regular was substituted for both fonts; and again without font metrics. I verified that Bitstream Vera Sans regular and bold are properly installed. I did this by opening Scribus and setting some type with the Vera Sans fonts. Scribus is a layout app that will never substitute a font. I also used Fontmatrix to verify that the fonts are correctly installed. I am out of ideas. Any suggestions are welcome. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:10:42 -0400 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: On 11/01/10 15:29, NoOp wrote: On 10/31/2010 11:54 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote: I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have installed. Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different What happens when you print to a cups-pdf printer? The resulting PDF has all the fonts converted to Times, and no font metrics. That is my default printer for Ubuntu 10.10. I created a test document with 60 script and handwritten fonts in it and printed it via cups-pdf. Then I copied it over to a Vista machine that had only 2 or 3 of those fonts installed. The documents showed the correct fonts when I viewed in with Adobe Reader 9. So it seemed to embed the fonts properly via cups-pdf on Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit. I rarely use OOo's Export to PDF anyways. ALSO, if you use Windows, use doPDF. It is a free PDF printer that embeds the fonts properly. That is what I use on the Vista system. Fedora 11 x86_64 with OOo 3.1.1 from OOo, not the repositories. The problem is only Bitstream Vera family. I have hundreds of other fonts installed, including Adobe OTF Pro fonts. OOo is happy to embed and print all of them, all except the Bitstream Vera family. At the same time all my other apps (Abiword, Scribus, etc.) will print and embed the Bitstream Vera family without a problem. According to the license information (viewed with Fontmatrix), these fonts came with the Gnome desktop. It is clearly a bug in OOo 3.1.1. Eventually I will move up to 3.2, which hopefully will resolve the problem. In the meantime, for this project I just changed all the fonts to DejaVu. For those not aware, DejaVu is a FOSS remaking of the Bitstream Vera family, adding additional glyphs and eliminating any question about licensing. A lot of distros are now shipping with DejaVu instead of Bitstream Vera. Evidently Gnome hasn't got there yet. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:44:02 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org dijo: On 2010-11-01 11:33 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote: Firefox 4 is still in beta. The final release will not be until next year. I recommend going back to the latest stable release. I am using 3.5.9 Eh? Latest stable is 3.6.12... Yes it is. But I repeat: I am using 3.5.9. And Zotero works just fine in Firefox and Writer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:45:15 -0400 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: It is clearly a bug in OOo 3.1.1. Eventually I will move up to 3.2, which hopefully will resolve the problem. In the meantime, for this project I just changed all the fonts to DejaVu. For those not aware, DejaVu is a FOSS remaking of the Bitstream Vera family, adding additional glyphs and eliminating any question about licensing. A lot of distros are now shipping with DejaVu instead of Bitstream Vera. Evidently Gnome hasn't got there yet. As for GNOME, I do not know about that. Some tell me that Ubuntu is not GNOME, even when it asked me if I wanted to use GNOME only option at the current log on. Straight Ubuntu comes with the Gnome desktop. There are many derivatives of Ubuntu, which usually use a different desktop. For example, Kubuntu uses KDE, Xubuntu uses XFCE, Lubuntu uses I forgot desktop. OOo will run nicely on all of them, although if you use the default installation it will be the Go-oo version, not the version from OOo. I recommend that you install an additional desktop. After doing so you will have the additional desktop as a login option. The reason I recommend this is because it gives you an additional way to log in if you mess up something in Gnome and it won't start. But this is an OOo list, so I'll shut up now about Ubuntu. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 17:57:50 -0700 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net dijo: Fedora 11 x86_64 with OOo 3.1.1 from OOo, not the repositories. The problem is only Bitstream Vera family. I have hundreds of other fonts installed, including Adobe OTF Pro fonts. OOo is happy to embed and print all of them, all except the Bitstream Vera family. At the same time all my other apps (Abiword, Scribus, etc.) will print and embed the Bitstream Vera family without a problem. Sorry, I can't help you out with 3.1.1; I had to remove the older versions (disk space issue) cannot find that version on any of the mirrors (US English - linux), all I find is Windows versions. Given that 3.1.1 is quite out of date, why not install a 3.2.x version in parallel and see if that resolves your problem? I cannot replicate the issue on OOo 3.2.1. I can export to pdf w/Bitstream and can print to cups-pdf w/Bitstream... no substitution w/Times. It is clearly a bug in OOo 3.1.1. Eventually I will move up to 3.2, which hopefully will resolve the problem. In the meantime, for this project I just changed all the fonts to DejaVu. If it is a bug, then you should be able to find it in the Tracker issues... there are 236 currently filed related to bitstream. If not, file a bug. You are sucking lemons... You know that you are running an outdated version of OOo (August 2009) yet complain when you run into an issue regarding fonts. I don't know if 3.2.x will fix your issue (as I mentioned I can't find a 3.1.1 to install to test at the moment), but given the bandwidth regarding the issue you might take the time to at least install 3.2.1 in parallel (http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Run_OOo_versions_parallel) and report back as to whether that resolves your issue. For those not aware, DejaVu is a FOSS remaking of the Bitstream Vera family, adding additional glyphs and eliminating any question about licensing. A lot of distros are now shipping with DejaVu instead of Bitstream Vera. Evidently Gnome hasn't got there yet. Really? What has this to do with Gnome? Gnome has had DejaVu for quite a long time. Perhaps it is your distro that is the problem: I only state that by way of pointing out that if Bitstream Vera is good enough and open enough for Gnome, it ought to work. The problem is not in my distro. The problem is a bug in OOo 3.1.1. And it is the version from OOo, not from the Fedora repos. I know it is not a Fedora problem because all my other apps embed and print the Vera family just fine. As for upgrading OOo, yes, I will do that soon. (Too busy at the moment, and I have a workaround for the current problem.) I don't need to install 3.2 in parallel; I'll just upgrade the 3.1.1 to 3.2. Since from posts by others 3.2 fixes the problem, there is no need to file a bug report on 3.1.1. NoOp, I love you just all over the place. But this thread is resolved and dead. :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Graphics formats for Impress 3.1.1
I am using OOo 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64. This is the version from OOo, not the version from the Fedora repositories. I am trying to create a presentation in Impress, but this is my first time with Impress. I created a vector drawing in Inkscape. I gave it a rectangular background that I set to the same color as the slide in Impress (C=25%, M=19%, Y=0% and K=0%. I also set the stroke in Inkscape to the same color. When I went to place this graphic on the slide I was amazed that Impress seemed unable to import an SVG graphic (Inkscape's native format). So I exported to EPS, but am having difficulties with the stroke - it stays white for some reason. So I exported to OpenDocument drawing (ODG), but Impress can't handle that either. My only other options from Inkscape are bitmaps, which are not acceptable. How can I get this graphic as a vector file into Impress other than EPS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have installed. Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different printer drivers (I have six Postscript printers installed, including one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color. If I print to paper on a plain Laserjet using the PCL driver all the text prints, but without font metrics, and only the bold prints in Vera Sans; somehow Times was substituted for the regular. If I print to the same printer using the (genuine Adobe) Postscript driver all the text prints, but Courier regular was substituted for both fonts; and again without font metrics. I verified that Bitstream Vera Sans regular and bold are properly installed. I did this by opening Scribus and setting some type with the Vera Sans fonts. Scribus is a layout app that will never substitute a font. I also used Fontmatrix to verify that the fonts are correctly installed. I am out of ideas. Any suggestions are welcome. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have installed. I have discovered that the problem is apparently in OOo. Scribus, for example, is happy to embed the fonts in a PDF. The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter. It is a very open license. As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually and apply the new font. It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:00:39 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 20:49 31/10/2010 +, I wrote: At 12:44 31/10/2010 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually and apply the new font. Er, where do you get those ideas? Oh, dear: my apologies. You were writing about an Impress presentation and I was thinking of a text (Writer) document. So what I said clearly missed the point. Sorry about that. Mind you, you might be able to achieve something by copying text into Writer and back again. Or not. Sorry that didn't help. Thanks to all for the suggestions. It turns out that I could have done most of it by changing the default style. However, changing the default style still did not affect the tables. I had to do those manually, one cell at a time. I am amazed that you cannot apply a font by selecting the entire table. And yes, I am very familiar with styles. I have been using Writer for years and always use styles because most of my writing is destined for layout in Scribus. Scribus will import Writer text and maintain the styles. I always have the styles dialog box open. However, in this case I didn't bother because I just had 17 slides and I mostly created them by duplicating a previous slide. Thus, all I had to do was set the font in the text frame on the first slide and for each subsequent slide I just deleted the text in the frame and typed in the new text. None of this would have been necessary if OOo did not have a bug causing it not to embed Bitstream Vera fonts. I also note that when I am typing in Writer with the styles dialog box open, whatever style I am typing in is highlighted. If I move the cursor to an area of text where a different style is applied, the dialog box immediately highlights the style of the new text area. In Impress I always had the style dialog box open, but none of the styles were ever highlighted. Anyway, the problem is resolved. I'm just dismayed at the poor formatting available in Impress compared to Writer. Luckily I rarely need to use Impress. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:30:37 -0400 Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo: John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700 John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com dijo: The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter. It is a very open license. As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually and apply the new font. It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is. Where did these tables come from? Did you create them on the slide using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar? I used Insert Table, rather than the icon on the toolbar. But that should make no difference. The important issue is that the tables were created de novo in Impress, not brought in from Writer or elsewhere. I'm using OOo 3.3.0 RC2, so there may be some improvements since 3.1.1. I created a new presentation and created a table of 5 columns and 15 rows using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar. Then I clicked the left top cell. The Table toolbar opened. The Table Properties icon is on the right end of the bottom row of this toolbar. Using this icon, I can set or modify the font for a single cell if only one cell is highlighted. When I select two or more adjacent cells, I can set or modify the font for all of the selected cells. Since then I have created a PDF file using File Export as PDF. When I opened the PDF Preview (MAC PDF and image program), the fonts in the table look very much like the fonts in the table on the slide. (I used two different fonts in the table.) So, perhaps, what you found is a bug that has been corrected. (I do know that there have been several changes made in the Impress module for the 3.3.0 version due out soon: enough so that several changes needed to be made in the Impress Guide to keep it up to date.) It's good to know that the ability to apply a font to all cells of a table is finally possible. As for the Bitstream Vera fonts not being embedded in a PDF and not printing, that is almost surely a bug in 3.1.1. The font license does not prohibit embedding or printing, plus the fonts came with Gnome, so surely they are openly embeddable. All the rest of my apps can embed them in PDFs and print them to my printers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Endnote 9 and writer
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:45:42 +1300 Michael Adams mbad...@paradise.net.nz dijo: On Thursday 14 October 2010 01:06, Ekain Rojo Labaien wrote: I just want to know if endnote 9 is available in open office writer like in Microsoft word 2003, if I can cite in my text and as always endnote create the bibliography. And is it possible to carry all the references that I have create in word? Writer will recognize them? Thank you very much Zotero is very popular as a FOSS (GPL) alternative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero http://www.zotero.org/ Surprised it hasn't been mentioned before. It was recommended to me by a computer tutor at my University. Zotero is wonderful! Too bad so many are still struggling with that pathetic Endnote. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Text wrap in Impress
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:06:26 +0100 Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk dijo: On 10/10/10 13:55, Daniel Lewis wrote: Mike Scott wrote: On 09/10/2010 23:43, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:37:18 -0700 John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com dijo: I only ever used Impress once several years ago. Now I need to use it again, but I am far from an expert. I placed a PNG graphic on a slide. There is also a text frame on the slide, and I want the text to wrap around the graphic. I have scoured though the Help file and it appears to be Adjust to contour. But when I select that checkbox the text still does not wrap around the graphic. No ideas here on that one; sorry. AFAIK only Writer has a proper wrap facility. This might work: 1.) Move the graphic to where you want it on the slide. Also make sure the graphic is the size you want. 2.) Move the text frame to where you want it to be. Adjust the frame size as well. You will be able to see the graphic inside the text frame. 3.) Double click inside the text frame to place the flashing cursor at the top left of the frame. Enter the text using spaces so that the text appears only to the left and right of the graphic. As you add each line of text, the graphic will move down by the height of the line. 4.) Click the graphic and drag it back to where you want it to be. Or there again, might not :-) Doesn't behave like that when I try it. I just get a graphic with text superimposed. You're not, I hope, suggesting one might pad the text with spaces to give a wrap effect Doesn't work for me either. But I wanted the graphic on the right of the slide, and the text frame fills the slide, so I used shift-enter to truncate some of the lines manually. I still can't believe there is no text wrap for graphics in Impress. There is a checkbox for Adjust to contour, but it does nothing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Ubuntu 10.10 is out with OOo 3.2.1 included - finally
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:14:53 -0400 webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: Well, Ubuntu 10.10 came out today [ not RC version ]. Included with it, finally, is OOo version 3.2.1 It would be nice if they [ Ubuntu and Debian ] would update OOo in their repositories more often than every 6 months. Yes, I know that people can download OOo in .deb and install it in a way that will deal with the Applications/Menu problems that I keep having. I just have to remember where I put that paper [file] that contains the instructions to do so. Yet, I wonder why when a major software package like OOo comes out with an update, or even an upgrade, that it takes so long for it to appear in the repositories. Other open-source packages are updated in the Ubuntu/Debian repositories and are seen in the daily/weekly checks with the Update Manager, but not OOo. The reason is because every distro has a slightly different philosophy about what to include out of the box and what should be optional. A big issue with most distros is to what extent closed source software should be included. The version of OOo from OOo has a small bit of closed source code in it and many distros like to clean that out. It takes a while to get the cleansed version of the latest release ready for the users. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Text wrap in Impress
I only ever used Impress once several years ago. Now I need to use it again, but I am far from an expert. I placed a PNG graphic on a slide. There is also a text frame on the slide, and I want the text to wrap around the graphic. I have scoured though the Help file and it appears to be Adjust to contour. But when I select that checkbox the text still does not wrap around the graphic. Also, how do I select the graphic when it is underneath the text frame? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Text wrap in Impress
On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 15:37:18 -0700 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo: I only ever used Impress once several years ago. Now I need to use it again, but I am far from an expert. I placed a PNG graphic on a slide. There is also a text frame on the slide, and I want the text to wrap around the graphic. I have scoured though the Help file and it appears to be Adjust to contour. But when I select that checkbox the text still does not wrap around the graphic. Also, how do I select the graphic when it is underneath the text frame? I forgot to say I have OOo 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64. The version is from OOo, not from the Fedora repositories. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] MS Office and OOo
This is just a point of idle curiosity. I have used OOo for many years, currently 3.1.1 (from OOo, not the repos) on Fedora 11 x86_64. I do not have MS Office installed on any of my computers. Recently I have been working on an Impress presentation (on Scribus, not OOo) that I will give to a local Linux user group at the end of November. This evening the group had a meeting, so I brought my Impress file with me on a USB stick. The meeting is held in a classroom at a local university. My purpose in bringing what I had done so far on the USB stick was to see if it worked with the projector in the classroom. I did not bring my computer with me. The university maintains OOo on just about all its computers, all of which run XP. With the classroom computer running XP I looked all over for OOo, but apparently it was not installed on the computer in this classroom. Just to be sure I hadn't missed it I decided to double-click on the Impress file. I reasoned that if OOo was installed on the computer, double-clicking on the file should launch Impress and the file. I was stunned when MS Office Powerpoint appeared on screen with my Impress file. I did not know that MS Office had OOo import filters. I knew that OOo does a great job of opening MS Office files, but I thought that MS ignored OOo. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org