[users] Re: test of plain text email
In news:4d820229.4060...@comporium.net, David B Teague sr davidbtea...@comporium.net typed: :: This should be plain text email. The setting in :: Tools Options Send Options :: is advertised as being sufficiently fine grained to select :: a domain for plain text, but it is not. as all mail is :: being sent as plain text. That is not what I wanted. :: :: I removed that option and changed the setting in the :: address book for users@openoffice.org to send text to :: that address. :: :: I'll check source of this message in sent mail. :: Nevertheless if this is in HTML format, please advise and :: I'll try something else. :: :: --David Teague :: :: :: -- Hi David; It's Plain Text as you intended. Good going. Twayne` -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Welcome to the users@openoffice.org mailing list!
In news:ilua2k$ion$1...@dough.gmane.org, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com typed: : On 2011/03/17 6:35 PM Paul wrote: :: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Roy Abbott :: r...@focalpointministries.net :: mailto:r...@focalpointministries.net wrote: :: :: I recently installed Open Office on my Mac to test it :: out. Now when I open an attachment in Entourage, by :: default, the document opens in Open Office. I do not :: want this to happen. I want the documents to open in :: the Microsoft Office document that it opened in before :: installing Open Office on my computer. (i.e. Excel, Word, :: etc.) :: :: Please tell me how to get the default settings back to :: open an emailed document back to opening in Excel or :: Word, as it did prior to installing Open Office. :: :: Thank you! :: :: Roy Abbott :: :: Forwarding your question to the users list for :: OpenOffice.org for people to assist. :: :: /paul : You will have to do this for every Microsoft file type you : do not want to open in OOo. I will : describe for Word .doc: : : In Finder locate a .doc file. : Right click on the .doc file : Click Get Info : A long narrow window will open : Part way down the window is b Open with: (make sure the : triangle is pointing down : Below that is a drop down menu. Select MS Word : Below that is Use this application to open all documents : like this one. : Click the Change All... button. : : Larry : -- : _ : Larry I. Gusaas : Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada : Website: http://larry-gusaas.com : An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are : far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese Or reinstall it, and this time tell it to not take over the shortcuts file associations. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Re: Cannot open a file
In news:snt112-ds23d20f944f2b4ec7e8eef8d4...@phx.gbl, Alvan Sweet sweetal...@hotmail.com typed: : Sorry I am not equipped to assist you! Then, why bother wasting ether with that kind of response? : : : From: Melinda Petzer : Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:41 AM : To: users@openoffice.org : Subject: [users] Cannot open a file : : : Hi there. : : I created a file some time ago using Open Office. When I : tried to open it now more recently, it seemed that the : information was lost. I uninstalled Open Office and : reinstalled it again in the hope that it might help, but : still no luck retrieving the info from this file. I will : attach this file. Could you please assist or advise me : concerning the retrieval of this document. : : Kind regards : Melinda : : : : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org : For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Cannot open a file
In news:aanlktinlcsdv7a3mrctdmld1kjzy7zpsnx0qstcs3...@mail.gmail.com, Melinda Petzer fro...@gmail.com typed: : Hi there. : ? : I created a file some time ago using Open Office. When I : tried to open it now more recently, it seemed that the : information was lost. I uninstalled Open Office and : reinstalled it again in the hope that it might help, but : still no luck retrieving the info from this file. I will : attach this file. Could you please assist or : advise?me?concerning the retrieval of this document. : ? : Kind regards : Melinda?? : ? : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org : For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org That's apparently an oo version 1.0 document? If so it's not surprising at least to me that it has no data. It didn't even seem to be an ODF document, in fact, since it asked whether to save as the original or as ODF? I think you've lost it. Copied to In news:aanlktinlcsdv7a3mrctdmld1kjzy7zpsnx0qstcs3...@mail.gmail.com, Melinda Petzer fro...@gmail.com typed: : Hi there. : ? : I created a file some time ago using Open Office. When I : tried to open it now more recently, it seemed that the : information was lost. I uninstalled Open Office and : reinstalled it again in the hope that it might help, but : still no luck retrieving the info from this file. I will : attach this file. Could you please assist or : advise?me?concerning the retrieval of this document. : ? : Kind regards : Melinda?? : ? : : : : - : To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org : For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org That's apparently an oo version 1.0 document? If so it's not surprising at least to me that it has no data. It didn't even seem to be an ODF document, in fact, since it asked whether to save as the original or as ODF? I think you've lost it. Copied to OP via e-mail HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Typing Cursor jumps to new location during typing!
In news:snt112-ds2541ce2798398cdbd52316d4...@phx.gbl, Alvan Sweet sweetal...@hotmail.com typed: : To all users of Open Office 3, : : When I type, my cursor seems to randomly move to a new : location causing my typing to be shown at areas that I do : not choose! : : Is there a correction for this problem! It makes my typing : a horror show, and very frustrating to use Open Office. : : This software seems to be excellent, yet this problem will : cause me too much anguish! OS version? OO/LO and version? Any informaton at all? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Part of a larger document
?? Apologies; apparently I sent a New message vs a Reply. That was stupid! Twayne` In news:iikb4r$9eo$1...@dough.gmane.org, Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com typed: :: Sounds like what you have is part of a larger document, :: the preceding ending at 47, and this one starting at 48? :: :: Just a guess. :: :: HTH, :: :: Twayne` :: :: -- :: Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. :: But always verify important information with :: other sources to be certain you have a clear :: understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Part of a larger document
Sounds like what you have is part of a larger document, the preceding ending at 47, and this one starting at 48? Just a guess. HTH, Twayne` -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: MSWord
In news:AANLkTindGgUbBV58fZzgWX4Tzp-oHM=oqfwv4+zff...@mail.gmail.com, Lynn Emrick dagurool...@gmail.com typed: :: Is MSWord compatible to open openoffice? The latest versions can. Earlier versions of Word need the Sun Word Plug-in. The latest OO.o seems to have no problems reading Word files, including latest (x) filetypes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: suggestion
In news:4d3c4c6e.6020...@krackedpress.com, webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com typed: On 01/23/2011 07:42 AM, James Knott wrote: michael thomas wrote: Hello, Open Office use to be a free alternative to Microsoft Office, that did not hog up your computers memory. Now its just a free alternative... To Bad! I even tried re-install with the 2 programs I really use. I saved a whopping 1 MB! Would Be Nice To Only Download The Only Ones We Need Without All The Fluff One thing to bear in mind is that with OpenOffice, you have a fully integrated package that shares a lot of common code between the various applications. This not only saves disk space over separate apps, but also improves function between the various applications. As one very basic example, you can, while in Writer, open a spread sheet. Also, while you can select individual components, it's not recommened because, as you found out, it won't save much disk space. It will also reduce some function in what you do install. So, bottom line, just install the entire package. After all, disk space is extremely cheap these days. Well, unless you computer is over 5 years old, you should be able to use a 1TB drive. They are running about $70 or $80 right now. I bought my system where 1TB was the default drive. I also bought an external USB/Firewire 1TB drive as well to share between my Vista laptop and my Ubuntu desktop. Soon I hope to add a second 1TB drive to my desktop for even more storage, since I have the desktop filled us with 800 gig and almost the same with the external one as my backup storage. So, unlike companies like Adobe that requires 2 gig of files space for just one of their packages, OpenOffice.org used very little space, under 200 meg on a Windows system [or at least the last time I installed it on my Vista laptop]. As far as I remember, OOo installs needing much less than MSO does. Also OOo is much easier to use than MSO. Another sdvantage to OOo is the much smaller file size that MS or other editors of the sort produce. Check them out; it's worth it just for the savings of space on the drive. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: corrupt file?
In news:aanlktimasr+f8dze5eolnom6ibvn8hbr-7nc7wg_v...@mail.gmail.com, Ellory Lane rocketry...@gmail.com typed: i was recently working on a file, and the file (while i was working on it) decided to STOP EDITING. i restarted my computer, seeing as it was frozen, and when it rebooted, i found the file corrupt. where can i find the auto-save files that it saves every minute or so? i am using UBUNTU 10.10, and OpenOffice3.2 Regards~Ellory Check in Options somewhere for the File Locations and see if it's listed there. It's tools; options; click the + for OpenOffice.org and select Paths. Your backup path is listed there. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Problem with Files Disappearing
In news:0c5c9d54-ecb9-4bf2-9b8e-fab50c9b9...@earthlink.net, Bruce Schlein schle...@earthlink.net typed: Hi folks, I am using OpenOffice I seem to randomly loose files that I have brought into slides. There does not seem to be a pattern. I would like to be able to recover the lost files, otherwise I am stymied and will have to go back to using Keynote, not my favorite. Thanks for your help, Bruce Schlein schle...@earthlink.net 864 244 3434 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org My first thought for the random loss of files is malware; it works that way. So throw your AV and your best spyware programs at the disk and see what you get. If it's not truly random, then I'd suspect cockpit error. Random means the images will be there today and you've seen them by reopening the files, and tomorrow or so,me tim,e later they are gone. That's going to be more likely something you're doing wrong. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Wrong language
In news:979ce6ba3c32464c86e791775c4cd...@alan, ALAN GRACIE a.gra...@virgin.net typed: I am a first time user I have today downloaded and installed OpenOffice.org 3.2(en-GB) installation files. When I start, all the dialogue boxes are in german (Wilkommem zu OpenOffice etc.) I cannot proceed. How do I get them in english. Thankyou, Alan Gracie Greenacres, Bickington, Barnstaple, Devon EX31 2JG Phone: 01271-375452 Email:a.gra...@virgin.net Go back to the OO.o site and be sure you download the English language version, I'd imagine. Is the computer language also English? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Table break between first and second rows?
In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda016b3b2...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com typed: -Original Message- From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:55 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] Table break between first and second rows? At 13:37 14/12/2010 -0500, Kevin McLauchlan wrote: A table extends over several pages. How do you tell it to split/break after the first content row, so that the table can begin on a page with TONS of space? This is a problem I had before, but never solved. Encountered again in a 'new' doc. A two-column table insists on starting at top of page 20, leaving two lonely lines of body text at the top of page 19, and the rest of page 19 empty. The table has large-ish cells containing pictures, so two or three rows will fit on a page. The header row and first two content rows fit easily on page 20. This implies that the header and row 1 of content would fit easily on page 19, under the two lines of body text... and still leave empty space on that page. But the table refuses to break after the first row. I have tried Table Properties and individual cell properties, as well as properties of the text paragraphs within the cells. I can't find a way to tell my table that it is not merely OK, but actually desirable to start following the most recent body text, and to break conveniently between content row 1 and content row 2. Several reviewers have complained about the bad layout and incompetent use of page space. In general, you will want to solve this problem for future reference. But if your problem is - as you suggest - that your final copy is looking bad, there is surely a simple workaround which can be applied at the last minute before publication. Break the table into two, so that the rows that can appear on the first page are in one table and do so, and the rest are in a second table starting on the new page, as you wish. (To do this, put the cursor into the first row of what you want to be the second table and go to Table | Split Table (or right-click | Split Table).) If necessary, either put a manual page break between the two tables or else set the second's text flow to page break before. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Thank you, but I've also had it happen when the first content row is big enough by itself to push the second row to a following page. So there'd be nothing to break. Here's an update. I actually DO have one or two occasions where there's body text on a page, and then a table starts just after AND has two or more rows that live happily on that same page (no forced break). The visible differences in that NON-OFFENDING table are: a) no heading row b) only one column c) no picture in the first content row. It still has combinations of text and pictures in many cells/rows (this being a single-column table, a cell IS a row...) I've even tried copying the GOOD table (along with its preceding text paragraph) to the other location in the document, adding a column, and then moving content of the BAD table into the copy of the GOOD table. Eventually, the problem comes back. Argh. I have not exhausted all possible combinations of content and structure (one column, two columns, heading row, no heading row, picture in first content row, no picture in first content row...) while saving the doc and closing OOo after each change, then reopening to see when/where it breaks. Maybe there's a critical vertical size of cell (or cell content) that generates a pre-table page break. That imaginary feature might or might not interact with the page layout. I suppose I could start shrinking pictures (and saving and exiting and coming back) to see if I could detect a threshold. - kevin The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. Kevin, Can you make this table available to the group? The right person might pick up on whatever is wrong quickly and then let you start comparing settings? If it were me, for instance, I'd fix it (assuming I could) and send it back to you for verification. Then decide whether to start comparing Option settings, etc., or with luck it'd be something simply you're missing and the prose isn't allowing it to be picked up accurately. It's not likely to be me with the solution g becuase I know Excel but not OOo Calc very well yet. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: animated PNG format used in OpenOffice?
In news:aanlktimmjeazcd=mcyuyuwwgadr75hcf53pxknyov...@mail.gmail.com, Rupert Brooks rupert.bro...@gmail.com typed: Very interesting, i hadnt heard of it before - thanks. --Rupert -- Rupert Brooks rupert.bro...@gmail.com On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 18:49, Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Rupert Brooks wrote: Hi, I took apart an ooimpress file the other day that contained an animation. The image content was stored in Pictures/somelongnumber.png. This appears to be a regular PNG, except its much too big. The animation seems to be stored in it, as it is properly kept and handled in the impress file. However, the manifest for the document just describes the content as media-type=image/png In principle though, png does not support multiframe to my knowledge. So I wondered, what format is being used by openoffice to store animated images? Are there tools outside of openoffice that can read it? Could someone point me to documentation? Thanks Rupert Brooks -- Rupert Brooks rupert.bro...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org The animated images are APNG files (animated PNG). It is an extension of the PNG files we have known. Search the Web using this phrase: animated png (without the parentheses). This extension has been around since 2004. Dan NOF will work with PNG and APNG files, but ... is lacking in some of the abilities to show them properly or at all in Design mode. It's like it's not completely implemented. However, when you PUBLISH the pages with png files in it, they will work/appear fine. IIRC Preview mode within NOF doesn't show them accurately either; publish them though and they will appear fine. I knew about APNG but have never used it for lack of remembering it when I had the time to look it up, but there isn't any reason it shouldn't adhere to the same rules. If you open an Animated Image in any editor that is not animeated aware, you will not see the animation, again, until you publish it. All you'll see is the first frame of the automation, none of the following frames. You can do some rudimentary work in Animation Shop similar programs that are aware of animations. Browsers should also show the animations OK but as Isaid, I have no actual experience with APNG. Whether GIF or PNG, the process of creation is the same - a set of frames (pictures) presented at a specified rate with small changes from one to the next. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re[2]: PDF Conversion
In news:334552512.20101210144...@gmail.com, Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com typed: It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. The letterhead didn't appear, either. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds If you have OCR, perhaps you can feed the documents to your OCR and get both the images and text back that way. Just a passing thought. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Removing line breaks in Open Office writer, etc.
In news:1289695759.2200.11.ca...@jeff-desktop, Jeffrey Needle jeff.nee...@gmail.com typed: I've found a marvelous answer to the problem of removing line breaks in Open Office text, etc. ... I hope this is of some help to you. No help to me: I use OOo's native Replace command for that. See Tabs, newlines, paragraphs \t \n $ and the following lines for how to. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Removing line breaks in Open Office writer, etc.
In news:op.vl58celmxqd...@pb-laptop, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com typed: Den 2010-11-14 18:21:43 skrev Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com: In news:1289695759.2200.11.ca...@jeff-desktop, Jeffrey Needle jeff.nee...@gmail.com typed: I've found a marvelous answer to the problem of removing line breaks in Open Office text, etc. ... I hope this is of some help to you. No help to me: I use OOo's native Replace command for that. See Tabs, newlines, paragraphs \t \n $ and the following lines for how to. Yes, but I think there was some serious problem with that, if I recall correctly. The problem was that \n in the search field is Shift+b5 and in the replace field it is b5, but there is no way to replace the other way around, at least not easily. That rings a bell somehow, but IIRC I fixed it by using the $ expression. Take a look in Help for replacing;tab stops (regular expressions) and see if that table doesn't help. I'm using 3.2.1 on an XP Pro SP3 Dell T3400 workstation. Yes, I know it doesn't sound like the right place in Help, but that chart is where I found it, again IIRC. IT'll only operate on the last character in a line. Don't know why it's under tabs - but that's OO's Help, good or bad.Nothin surprises me in Help anymore. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Paste without formatting
In news:999379.12982...@smtp822.mail.ukl.yahoo.com, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com typed: At 19:59 08/11/2010 +0100, James Wilde wrote: Mac OSX 10.6.4 OOo 3.2.1 I can paste with the format applicable at the point of entry if I use Cmd+Alt+Shift+V, as opposed to Cmd+V which pastes the incoming text in the format from which it came. I'm slightly surprised by this. The Windows keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+Shift+V, so I'd imagine the Mac one would be Cmd+Shift+V - with no Alt. That's correct on my XP SP3+ machine. Don't know MACs but your comment seems valid. I'd like to make the pasting of unformatted text the default, and either reverse the system so that Cmd+Alt+Shift+V uses the formatting at the origin, ... I have version 3.1.1 for Windows XP, so you may have to work out how all this applies to your Mac version. There is no version 3.1.1 for XP; that has to be a typo or error. It is XP Home or Pro with/without Multimedia, mostly. e.g. I have XP Pro with SP3 + all following applicable updates. ... HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Paste without formatting
In news:aanlktikopuiji4yymbk=fmychot9xhvpa-gvvrdtz...@mail.gmail.com, Phil Hibbs sna...@gmail.com typed: There is no version 3.1.1 for XP; that has to be a typo or error. It is XP Home or Pro with/without Multimedia, mostly. e.g. I have XP Pro with SP3 + all following applicable updates. I think he meant OOo version 3.1.1. Phil Hibbs. You might be right. I thought of that but then he had already given a different rev higher up in his post. No big deal I guess; it won't matter much which XP he's using anyway. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Open Office
In news:blu139-w33fe81bababffe2b7c20e495...@phx.gbl, Olivia Hilton livhil...@live.co.uk typed: OpenOffice, Just a thought, but is there a chance of picking up a virsu from downloading OpenOffice? Thanks and Regards, Liv Hilton Blaise. Very little chance, especially if you also check the MD-5 checksum I think it is it uses. If that matches, you're good to go! HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: double-sided printing - bad problem
In news:4cd80aef.7020...@scottsonline.org.uk,
Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk typed:
Hmmm. Amazing how things come up together. While pondering
on book format in another thread, I've been supervising
a booklet my wife has been putting together. End game was
we needed to print about 20 pages, double-sided, ready for
binding.
Goodness knows what happened. The right-side pages printed
OK. Left side kept hanging - the best the system could do
was a timeout message from the printer (a Samsung laser).
There was no way I could get OOo to print the second sides
straight to the printer. I eventually used PDFCreator (a
print-to-disk driver), then printed them using Acrobat
Reader, so we've finished this job.
But I still have no clue what was going on. This was OOo
3.x under XP/SP2. The print queue showed spooling, then
spooling/deleted when I tried cancelling the job. A
reboot finally cleared the q (but the problem reappeared
when I retried); while OOo itself crashed horribly at some
point in the proceedings.
OOo? XP? XP fault badly handled by OOo? Who knows? :-{ But
it's irritating when you're doing a quick job for someone
else!!!
I don't know what the problem is, but if you're actually doing business, you
should get XP up to SP3.
re the non-print of the second side: Is that the odd or even pages?
Whichever it is, can you tell it to print all that one side, flip the paper
over and refeed, printing the other side?
I'm assuming you have a printer that prints on both sides automatcally?
It almost sounds like a driver problem than it does anything else so
perhaps a driver reinstall or update for the printer? I'm assuming you have
a printer that prints on both sides automatcally?
More information would probably help here.
HTH,
Twayne`
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[users] Re: Unsub
In news:20101106011654.gd2...@cox.net, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net typed: On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:41:24PM +, AG wrote: ..snip Oh no - not this thread yet again. Do user not read these days? At the risk of starting a flame war, I would bet dollars to donuts that all of these lost souls who plaintively write in to be unsubbed are from Windows World where one need not think for oneself and merely points and clicks at something a Redmond developer has set up in advance. I seem to remember reading somewhere that not all MUAs show the footers. It's sure not windows specific users who won't RTFM or RTFP(age). Also, where one need not think for oneself and merely points and clicks is a good thing, not a bad thing. Windows does run any and all programs I have on my machine, which no 'nix can do, plus to even come close to doing so, requires a minimum of compiler use/experience which not all people wish to bother with when an OS handles all that for them without users havinig to learn anything about coding, compiling, addressing and so on. The nixes of this world are currently sub-par for anything but a newbie who doesn't yet know what he wants and thus doesn't know what he's missing. I and several of my friends/acquaintances have Linux of one flavor or another and have clear heads open minds when it comes to the reality of operating systems. Linux users on the other hand are very egotistical, often myopic, and sometimes even narcissists of the highest calibre. I wish Linux DID have a flavor that could run everything I need it to, but ... such a flavor simply does not exist. That puts the skids on using it big time for me and many thousands, probably millions like me. Most peope are happy with whichever OS they started with and don't think much about changing, whether that's good or bad I don't care; it's just a fact. Nixers hate it when I say this, but the ONLY way to bring Linux into the prime time is for someone to start a company that SELLS reliable updates to Linux and provides a guarantee of some sort that their longevity is not in question. I'd pay for the things I needed as long as they didn't take a MS mentality about their marketing and obsoletion policies and of course pricing. If you use Linux and like it, and it does all the things you want/need/will want/will need as Windows and one other OS does, then great. I wish you all the best and success in the coming years. That is exactly what an OS should do. Just don't make yourself intentionally ignorant about competition and keep the real world in mind. If you use Linux and just play games with it as most posters of 'nix seem to be prone to, then there isn't any advice or information you can provide me with if you wanted to. Myself, I WILL NOT use an OS that requires the amount of time and effort 'nix does and would require me to expend substantial amounts of money to become compliant with 'nix. That's backwards. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Unsub
In news:4cd5dcdd.7060...@cfl.rr.com, Tom Bell cbel...@cfl.rr.com typed: On 11/6/2010 2:05 PM, Twayne wrote: The nixes of this world are currently sub-par for anything but a newbie who doesn't yet know what he wants and thus doesn't know what he's missing. As one who uses Linux exclusively without any trouble whatsoever, I find your tone patronizing and condescending. Windows AV (Any Version) is actually sub-par for an OS. To state otherwise one would have to be very ignorant of what OSes are and how to rate them. That said, this is not a discussion for this forum. PLEASE, take it to us...@os.discuss list, or whatever it is called. Thank you! Tom You need to improve your reading comprehension rather than try to prolong your opinion over anyone else's. You can't say the 'nixes are not sub-par when you cannot open the box and go to work which is the case with many experienced computer users. You're entitle to your opinions just as anyone/everyone else is and that's all a post can be is an opinion. I will not take this to your suggested location because it is you who extended it, right here, and whatever I do will have absolutely nothing to do with your wishes. Your arguement just doesn't hold water for ALL users, not even for most experienced users. As I said, I use Linux and would love to use it sans windows, but it simply cannot keep up with windows, even XP. Since you're coming on like a troll, I'll have no further discussions with you at this point; nothiing to make it worthwhile. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Fw: Missing 1st letters in surnames
In news:293321.14028...@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com, DeWayne McCarty clark...@sbcglobal.net typed: Twayne, thank you for your replay. Clarification: The 1st letter is missing on names in the document that have been indexed. These same names listed in the INDEX have the 1st letters. DeWayne McCarty From: Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 7:48:15 PM Subject: [users] Re: Fw: Missing 1st letters in surnames In news:72863.89240...@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com, DeWayne McCarty clark...@sbcglobal.net typed: Mike thank you for your response. Some back ground: This document is part of a book written in OO, as are 2 previous ones written over the past 3 years. After writing, editing, etc. over 2,700 pages, This problem is really Weird. OO writer has been an excellent tool after that other Word Processor. In these books, the index contains only full names (i.e.: Surname, Given name, title). Why are only a few names are in error out of hundreds? Why do these errors only occur on a couple of pages? Why isn't ever name in the paragraphs missing 1st letters? I guess I have offended the Indexing God? DeWayne McCarty Member of Columbiana County Chapter of Ohio Genealogical Society I thought you said the first letters were missing on the pages, too, not just in the index? If a selection area only covers part of a column, that column won't be picked up by the operation. Either way it sounds like the Copy process failed to get the first column of data from those pages; easy to do if done manually, harder to happen if done by macro, but you left out a lot of useful data. HTH, Twayne` From: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 10:37:41 AM Subject: Re: [users] Fw: Missing 1st letters in surnames On 22/10/10 03:14, DeWayne McCarty wrote: Windows 7; Open Office.org 3.2.1 (build 9502) I am proofing a 800+page book. This book contains abstracts of newspaper articles. All names are indexed. On 3 of the pages, there are a few names in the articles where the Surnames are missing the 1st letter. (These entries are indexed and the index has the complete spelling so the letters were there when they were indexed. ) [e.g. The letters in red are example of missing letters. SAMPLE PARAGRAPH: Mrs. Bell leaves five children: Mrs. Edna Vanskiver, Winter Haven, Fla.; Mrs. Ethel E. Haas, Columbiana; Ernest K. Bell, Leetonia; Herschel M. Bell near Rogers; Rolland O. Bell, Green Cove, Fla. She also leaves one great granddaughter, one sister, Mrs. Tirzah Lane, Dresden, O.; two brothers, George McGinnis, Springfield and John McGinnis, of Zanesville. I have copied these paragraphs and pasted them into note pad. The letters are missing there. Any help would be appreciated. No solution so far, I see. You don't say where the document came from. It probably makes a difference if you made it with OOo, or imported it from somewhere else. If it's imported (from Word maybe??), it's probably worth checking back to whatever other versions you have to see if you can spot when the characters were dropped. From your other email, it does sound as though the letters in this version are lost, which isn't hopeful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Hmm, interesting. I'm not likely to be any help I don't think. All I can think of is to check the lines in the document with first letter missing and see if the left margin is hiding them by being mis-set. I can't imagine how an index operation could cause that, but ... stranger things have happened. That first letter has to be there if the Index has them in it, so something is hiding them? Like I said ... Sorry, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Fw: Missing 1st letters in surnames
In news:72863.89240...@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com, DeWayne McCarty clark...@sbcglobal.net typed: Mike thank you for your response. Some back ground: This document is part of a book written in OO, as are 2 previous ones written over the past 3 years. After writing, editing, etc. over 2,700 pages, This problem is really Weird. OO writer has been an excellent tool after that other Word Processor. In these books, the index contains only full names (i.e.: Surname, Given name, title). Why are only a few names are in error out of hundreds? Why do these errors only occur on a couple of pages? Why isn't ever name in the paragraphs missing 1st letters? I guess I have offended the Indexing God? DeWayne McCarty Member of Columbiana County Chapter of Ohio Genealogical Society I thought you said the first letters were missing on the pages, too, not just in the index? If a selection area only covers part of a column, that column won't be picked up by the operation. Either way it sounds like the Copy process failed to get the first column of data from those pages; easy to do if done manually, harder to happen if done by macro, but you left out a lot of useful data. HTH, Twayne` From: Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 10:37:41 AM Subject: Re: [users] Fw: Missing 1st letters in surnames On 22/10/10 03:14, DeWayne McCarty wrote: Windows 7; Open Office.org 3.2.1 (build 9502) I am proofing a 800+page book. This book contains abstracts of newspaper articles. All names are indexed. On 3 of the pages, there are a few names in the articles where the Surnames are missing the 1st letter. (These entries are indexed and the index has the complete spelling so the letters were there when they were indexed. ) [e.g. The letters in red are example of missing letters. SAMPLE PARAGRAPH: Mrs. Bell leaves five children: Mrs. Edna Vanskiver, Winter Haven, Fla.; Mrs. Ethel E. Haas, Columbiana; Ernest K. Bell, Leetonia; Herschel M. Bell near Rogers; Rolland O. Bell, Green Cove, Fla. She also leaves one great granddaughter, one sister, Mrs. Tirzah Lane, Dresden, O.; two brothers, George McGinnis, Springfield and John McGinnis, of Zanesville. I have copied these paragraphs and pasted them into note pad. The letters are missing there. Any help would be appreciated. No solution so far, I see. You don't say where the document came from. It probably makes a difference if you made it with OOo, or imported it from somewhere else. If it's imported (from Word maybe??), it's probably worth checking back to whatever other versions you have to see if you can spot when the characters were dropped. From your other email, it does sound as though the letters in this version are lost, which isn't hopeful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Strange message from the server
In news:4cb74dab.7090...@libertytrek.org, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org typed: On 2010-10-14 1:36 PM, Michael Adams wrote: On Friday 15 October 2010 00:41, Tanstaafl wrote: ?? don't be dense. Avoiding personal conflict on mailing lists. http://www.madmanweb.com/archives/0102avoiding_personal_conflict_on_mailing_lists.html Sorry, when someone is being dense, I just say it... And well you should. But not using that site, IMO, as it doesn't have a very good reputation. See http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/netlingo.com Since I received the warning about malicious software having been presented, phishing and a couple others, I stopped and never entered the site. Site has a rather truthful domain name IMO. Google supports the same information on lookup. Didn't bother with a whois but Robtex shows its position rather well (bad neighborhood). Sorry to be so negative, but ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Transferring templates to another computer.?
In news:4cb96b49.40...@wn.com.au, James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au typed: I have a lot of business document templates on my old Win XP computer and wish to transfer most, but not all, to my new Win 7 computer. Is it just a matter of finding the template folder and copying them across, or is there more than one folder involved? I look forward to your advice Many thanks, James IMO I think you're OK and on the right track. Just in case though, I'd like to point out that in NOF-ese, a template is a zip file that contains everything you need to move one site from one location to another folder, computer, server, whatever. Everything, including assets, styles, content, etc. etc. is contained in that template for that site. Template in the normal scheme of things, isn't used that way in NOF. In NOF, the kind of template that you use to start a web site with predefiined settings, etc., is called a Style. NOF chose a lousy word when it picked template for packaging a web site. IMO they need to fix the terminology so it doesn't confuse people. A web site consists of several folders. A NOF template (File; Export as Template) creates a zip file that contains ALL of the needed folders for a web site. Just unzip it on another computer to the NOF area and it will run and create all the folders needed under User Sites. No other function in NOF does this! A web site template in NOF is named a Style. Look thru Help for further information, or the manual available at OO.o. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Transferring templates to another computer.?
In news:4cb96b49.40...@wn.com.au, James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au typed: I have a lot of business document templates on my old Win XP computer and wish to transfer most, but not all, to my new Win 7 computer. Is it just a matter of finding the template folder and copying them across, or is there more than one folder involved? I look forward to your advice Many thanks, James LOL! Sorry about that! Head's on straight and newsgroup name now corrected in my brain! Please completely ignore my previous post!! HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Integration Idea
In news:1bba97f3-16ab-4125-9095-04433a44c...@me.com, Israr Chowdhury israrchowdh...@me.com typed: Dear Sir/Madam, I am developing an partial open source cloud collaboration service. I have been using open office for a long time, I would like to integrate open office into my service. This service would potentially be going against google's suite. How would I be able to go about doing this? Do I have to pay a certain commission? Kind Regards Israr Chowdhury First: Have you read the license? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Dual scale charts
In news:bob-2bda7c.11353003102...@news.gmane.org, Robert Peirce b...@peirce-family.com typed: I am virtually certain I can't do this in excel. Can I do it in OO? Usually, what I want to plot is some kind of price index along with some sort of economic series. Their values are going to wildly different. The price series might be 20,000, while the economic series is 1.8. I want both to fill most of the chart. Putting the scales on opposite sides would be great but not critical. If anybody has a method to do this, I would appreciate seeing it. I can't show it to you because it's long ago archived, but I can assure you that can be done in both Excel 97 to 2003 and OO.o version 2.4.x to 3.2.1 which I use now. include the versions simply because you have no hint of the version you have. In both cases, it's a matter of going to the chart's controls and adding a series of data for the wanted axis (usually X). I think it's excel also has a decent Help on the subject, and of course there's Google if you don't mind the thousands of extraneous hits it'll also include. But if you're good with Google ... . Sorry about not being more specfic. Surely I or someone else here (or at Microsoft groups) can fix up a couple examples for you. Start wth Bar or Line graphs, whichever you like best, so it's simplest to do, then move on to what you actually want. Some formats don't lend themselves to this, but since you included so little data, ths is all I got to do samples for you. The devil's always in the details, you know. HTH, Twayne` H, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: TOC and PDF export problem [SOLVED, sort of]
In news:i85deh$dd...@dough.gmane.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net typed: ... Tried to send you the latest modifed pdf, but: Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. a...@extratech.com: Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 a...@extratech.com... Rejected: 98.138.90.72 listed at bl.spamcop.net [RCPT_TO] I'll switch IP's, but you might check your spamcop settings. gary You'll drop off spamcop's bl 24 hrs after the spam stops IRRC unless this is your third or more times listed. The blocking is being done by extratech.com, of course. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: OOo Icons
In news:aanlktinm-tsfuwdciritug=bbggwwuupp7gtkrvmw...@mail.gmail.com, Sam Swaminath samitpfin...@gmail.com typed: Sir, I have downloaded OOo 3.1. I am not able to open the files saved under OOO2.3A message appears saying MS Visual C++ Runtimr Library-C/programfiles/openofficeorg3/program/soffice.bin This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Kindly tell me what to do and how I can open my files. Thanks, Regards, Sam Sam, YOu have done what's called hijacking a thread here. That means you've added your question to a thread about somethnig else by using Reply. It's unlikely many people are reading this anymore; it's pretty much resolved. Repost, this time starting a new thread and you'll like get much better responses. Hijacking a thread if a very poor way to get responses. HTH, Twayne` On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Harold Fuchs hwfa.gmanen...@googlemail.com wrote: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote in message news:4c9e28af.2000...@libertytrek.org... On 9/25/2010 4:03 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: I have the latest (3.2.1, is that the latest?) OOo on Vista Home Premium and on Win XP Pro. The icons are *not* greyscale, they are coloured. What am I missing, please. Someone must have fixed them for you. No. See the discussion in disc...@openoffice.org which is where I put it after correcting my mistake (posting it here) in my previous message. -- Harold Fuchs London, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: opinion
In news:4c94d039.8090...@yahoo.com, Earl Melton earlemel...@yahoo.com typed: On 09/14/2010 05:45 PM, Twayne wrote: In news:4c8d839f.40...@yahoo.com, Earl Meltonearlemel...@yahoo.com typed: Hi Barbara and list, On 09/12/2010 03:42 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: ...and you may find that it is actually just as easy or even easier to accomplish what you want. This is so true. I do the Sunday morning lyrics presentation for my church and getting a background image for a particular song required _at least_ seven or eight mouse clicks (as best I recall) when I was using Microsnot Office. This was before I could even navigate to the image I wanted. In Impress, I right-click the slide, choose Slide Set Background Picture for Slide, and I'm ready to find my picture. Two clicks! Far less wear and tear on the trigger finger and left rodent button! Also, I once subscribed to a M$-Word list where there were some extremely knowledgeable pros. None of them, however, could ever tell me how to make a TOC that was automatically sorted alphabetically. Probably could have been accomplished with some VBA voo-doo, but nothing simple. Of course, this was back in the days when Office 2000 was new. They may have caught up with OOo in more recent versions, I don't know. When I started with Writer, I just highlighted the chapter or song title I wanted, then chose Insert Indexes and Tables Entry. Scroll back up to the TOC, right-click on it and choose Update Index/Table and you're done. So easy, even a caveman like me could do it! -- Have a blessed day! Earl Well, that would be OK but ... by definition a TOC is never alphabetical. It s, instead in the order of the headers or header marks in the document, top to bottom (first to last). An index on the other hand is Alphabetical by definition and if you really wanted to could suffice as your TOC if you really want it alphabetical. Look it up. For your own purposes, it wouldn't matter what you did. For any professional who knows the business and what the TOC/Index is supposed to provide, you wouldn't get very far. They're easy to look up; try it. HTH, Twayne` Did I claim to be a professional? Did I claim to know the business? And I'm not really trying to get very far. I'm just a user who found two procedures to be _considerably_ easier in OOo than in M$O. Dear God and Twayne, please forgive me for using a wrong term! I bow to your superior vocabulary. And whilst you're at it, please forgive me for being so far behind on e-mail. I just noticed I'm responding to a nearly week-old rant. -- Have a blessed day! Earl You should thicken your skin just a bit for working on newsgroups. I meant nothing offensive and lacking any indication of your level of expertise I boiled everything down to what I considered the mast basic response without using a lot of words. I still stand behind my comments, they were well meant, and not designed to trigger your paranoia. I would suggest we have no further communications with each other. Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Opening and referring to a Calc file online
In news:aanlkti=kizvgjbsm8dn=bkhrjduxa=w7vn74=a=ng...@mail.gmail.com,
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com typed:
Does the lack of replies mean that this isn't really
possible or does
it only mean most people think that I am just too stupid?
Best regards
Johnny Rosenberg
Den 12 september 2010 18:47 skrev Johnny Rosenberg
gurus.knu...@gmail.com:
I have some space online from my Internet provider. I put
an OpenOffice.org Calc document there and it seems like I
can not open it from there. I guess I need some guiding
here. This is what I tried so far:
My operating system is Ubuntu 10.04 but I use the
b vanillab version of OpenOffice.org, the most current
Swedish version, OOO320m12 (Build: 9483).
First I have tried to open other files from the same
place. Those were ordinary text files and they opened
properly with Gedit (a plain text editor) by double
clicking the file directly in my file manager (Nautilus).
When I do the same with my Calc document, OpenOffice.org
opens but I get an input/output error each time I try.
Double clicking a file on that place means that it will be
opened via ftp.
Next I tried to open it via http instead. That worked
well, but if I open a new document, type b =b in a cell
and then click a cell in the http opened document, the
formula refers to a temporary file in my web browser's
temp folder rather than to the file itself.
Well, this is what I want to achieve:
I want one cell in a local spreadsheet display the sum of
a document that I saved online, that's it.
I made an example document for this, located at:
http://hem.bredband.net/b619539/Test.ods
If I click b Propertiesb for the file in Nautilus (my
file manager) it says that it is located at:
ftp://b619...@ftp.bredband.net/
I guess that a password is required to reach it by ftp, so
that's maybe why I get an error when double clicking it.
Anyway, now I want to calculate the sum of all numbers in
my test document, but if I open a new spreadsheet and
click the SUM icon and then click the cells of my online
document, the cell contains this:
=SUM('file:///home/guraknugen/.opera/temporary_downloads/Test.ods'#$Tabell1.A2:A9)
And of course that's not what I want. I would guess that
something like this would work:
=SUM('http://hem.bredband.net/b619539/Test.ods'#$Tabell1.A2:A9)
However, it doesn't. The result is: b #NAME?b
Is this even possible, and if it is, what does the syntax
look like?
My test document will remain online for a while (it's just
a simple spreadsheet with a few numbers in some cells) so
feel free to try to make this work, if you want.
--
Kind regards
Johnny Rosenberg
Johnny,
The lack of replies from this particular newsgroup and based on my
experience, having been here for quite some time, would be that no one knows
a good answer to your query. In my own opinion, and if I had noticed your
post, I would have considered it nearly devoid of useful information to be
able to provide a good response. Quoted error messages, events after and
before any errors or the failure to work would have been useful too. Many
are probably also wondering why you would try to edit a file still on the
server; unless you're in very special circumstances, that would be a
definite no-no because once you saved it back to the server, the original
would be lost to future visitors.
The normal process would be to download the file to your hard drive, edit
and save it there, and then do whatever you had planned to do with the
changed file. So, assuming you are serious about what you want to do, and
you are in a situation that would purposely allow that, I know I would have
no idea what to tell you, so responding would be a waste of time for both
you and I.
This is a pretty good newsgroup and assuming you're accessing it with a
legitimate newsgroup reader, makes the question a little confusing, at least
to me.
If anyone is calling you stupid, don't worry about it; just ignore them.
Same with any other response. Lack of responses though are usually an
indication that you either asked a question n such a way that no one
understood it enough to even ask you for more details, or there simply was
no one at that particular time period who could help you.
And there is nothing wrong with asking the group why you ddn't get any
responses; but a tad more gently than you did here. Even if you get a
crtique you don't like, still read it anyway; they might be pointing out
something you weren't aware of.
Also, the URL you provided was a good idea, but many people on the first
contact won't go to an unknown URL on the chance it may contain malware.
It's also a good idea to specifically point out what it is you wish folks to
look at, at that URL rather than just the link to it.
Some like to say the devil is in the detail and I think this is one of the
times that's applicableg.
HTH,
Twayne
[users] Re: Unique Identifier
In news:201009161832.13128.gra...@yadtel.net, Gracia M. Littauer gra...@yadtel.net typed: I want to make a file in OO Calc. Column A needs a label that is an Unique Identifier. it will be a column of consecutive numbers from 1 on. I understand the concept BUT NOT how to actually do it i.e make the Unique Identifier Depending on what the unique ID is for, in one app I use the date/time function in the ISO format. If 1S isn't enough graduation, take it down to milliseconds. Then you have the advanteage of having the date and time each ID was created and it'll be automatically unique. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: opinion
In news:4c8d839f.40...@yahoo.com, Earl Melton earlemel...@yahoo.com typed: Hi Barbara and list, On 09/12/2010 03:42 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: ...and you may find that it is actually just as easy or even easier to accomplish what you want. This is so true. I do the Sunday morning lyrics presentation for my church and getting a background image for a particular song required _at least_ seven or eight mouse clicks (as best I recall) when I was using Microsnot Office. This was before I could even navigate to the image I wanted. In Impress, I right-click the slide, choose Slide Set Background Picture for Slide, and I'm ready to find my picture. Two clicks! Far less wear and tear on the trigger finger and left rodent button! Also, I once subscribed to a M$-Word list where there were some extremely knowledgeable pros. None of them, however, could ever tell me how to make a TOC that was automatically sorted alphabetically. Probably could have been accomplished with some VBA voo-doo, but nothing simple. Of course, this was back in the days when Office 2000 was new. They may have caught up with OOo in more recent versions, I don't know. When I started with Writer, I just highlighted the chapter or song title I wanted, then chose Insert Indexes and Tables Entry. Scroll back up to the TOC, right-click on it and choose Update Index/Table and you're done. So easy, even a caveman like me could do it! -- Have a blessed day! Earl Well, that would be OK but ... by definition a TOC is never alphabetical. It s, instead in the order of the headers or header marks in the document, top to bottom (first to last). An index on the other hand is Alphabetical by definition and if you really wanted to could suffice as your TOC if you really want it alphabetical. Look it up. For your own purposes, it wouldn't matter what you did. For any professional who knows the business and what the TOC/Index is supposed to provide, you wouldn't get very far. They're easy to look up; try it. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: WAYYY off topic; please repy OFF LINE
In news:i6iqam$53...@dough.gmane.org, David H. Lipman dlip...@verizon.net typed: From: David B Teague davidbtea...@comporium.net Cumulatively, you guys seem to have a finger on all knowledge, at least about computer subjects. This is way off OO.o topic, so I'd like to keep this brief and off line. The Problem: I've managed to lose or forget the admin password to my Westel 327W DSL modem/router. The solution is to press reset and restore all settings. That's also a problem . Would someone please point me to a place to find how to decide (and find) the essential settings from this modem and then how to restore them after pressing reset. This is not pressing, but could be serious down the road. I want to do something now. Please let me know off line if you need more information before making a recommendation. I've done a Google search. Some of the stuff is on target (the last item below) but doesn't address my questions and the rest is tangential at best. Thanks! David Teague snip Westell 327W Router+Modem: Acct: admin Password: password MTU: 1492 DSL PPPoE Your ISP account name and password for PPPoE authentication. If the acct/PW don't work, try admin for the password, too. Early on in the product, they were both admin. The 327W BTW is a NAT router/gateway and their site has lots of good information too. Another way to reset the 327W is to simply stop all traffc and hold down the reset button on the bottom. The docs say hold it for 60 seconds, but I've found aroung 24 S sufficient; no idea why the discrepency. To access the 327W from Explorer, or course, just enter http://dslrouter/ in the address bar. The settings window will open and everything from settings to logs will be available. The manual is also on their site to further explain things. HTH, Twayne` To access - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
In news:4c8658fc.9090...@hbsys.plus.com, Peter Hillier-Brook p...@hbsys.plus.com typed: On 07/09/2010 15:48, Maurice Batey wrote: On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:56:49 -0400, John Kaufmann wrote: her approach says to make a template - take as much time as you need to get it right - and then use it whenever you need an envelope. That's exactly what I do - for the two sizes of envelope that I use. Works fine for me. It's also been my standard technique for over 20 years. It seems too obvious and logical for some people. :-) Peter HB No offense, but I think you're overlooking the fact that most applications other than single users at home and ANY secretarial function needs more than 2 templates. You also have windowed envelopes that have to align, post cards, holiday specal sizes, marketing's insatable taste for uniqueness and many other things even in the smallest businesses. To hand someone a program that lets them specify an envelope name size position in the printer and then have it print anything but what they expected/selected, or could find in Help, is a very annoying prospect and very quickly puts a bad taste in a user's mouth. Plainly stated, the product does NOT do what it says it'll do without some technical expertise and computer knowledge, something your near minimum wage secretaries down in shipping, RD, and whatever, are trying to get along with at all. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Help with envelops/mailing labels
In news:4c85771a@the-martin-byrd.net, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net typed: Hi All, We have been seeing a lot of discussion about printing envelops from OpenOffice.org. I decided to try and do something about it. In the process of doing the research I found this web blog page, http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/envelopes/ . I can not say how good or bad the page is at this time as I have only started working on this, but hope that it maybe of some use to others. If the information is helpful let me know, if not also let me know. You can reach me through the list or direct if need be. I will be doing what I can to help in the documentation project, guides and wiki and provide the information to the Issue tracker. Andy FWIW, it seems the way OO.o does envelopes uses the bottom of the envelope page and right side of it to base all its calculations on. The problem with using the bottom as a reference is that it means the printer must have the exact same paper size settings as the envelopes. OTOH, Word measures everything from the top of the page, so as long as the paper in the printer is = the envelope in use, some manageable is a lot more likely to appear without havng to mess with the printer settings at all. I still use Word for my envelopes simply because it's so simple to use, especially if you have to do an odd sized envelope. As long as the envelope width is less than 11 inches, I don't have to even touch the printer settings to print envelopes. The final form feed kicks the envelope out so the length of the prevously paper is moot as long as it wasn't too short. .25 from the top for return address and 2.25 or whatever it is for the Adressee is a lot less trouble to set up than when everything is referenced to the BOTTOM of the sheet of paper; that practically guarantees the need to make printer settings changes, which shouldn't be necessary for any standard or near standard sized envelopes. Same for the left/right orientation too; referenced from the left side is a straight forward calulation but when 00.o uses the right edge, again you must mess with the printer settings to get it to work right. I do not like messing with the printer settings; it's silly to have to do so in these cases when it's just not necessary if the references were simply changed. In the event I've mis-spoken or done nothing but make muddy water, I can supply a couple rudimentary dwgs that make it a lot clearer, but ... it's also easy to see if you just take the measurements and how they're applied in Word and then in OO.o and the differences become pretty easy to see. I used to think it might be a code or patent problem but since then I've decided no, it's not, because too many other programs do it basically the same way MS does in Word and they're not having issues with MS. I fnally came to the conclusion that the setup in OO.o was a case of re-inventing the wheel, and badly, whatever the reason was. This and about 4 other very basic problems are something IMO that holds OO.o back from having a much wider customer base than it has. IMO again, to provide such an excellent piece of code with such basic, completely unacceptable problems and not have on the fx soon! list is totally unacceptable. Taking care of the rev0 discovered bugs would be a tremendous step forward for OO.o and would remove many of the annoyng things people come across that drive them away from it. I have essentally returned to MS Office because of them, qute honestly. Envelopes is one of four of five problems I consider ludicrous to have allowed to live this long in the code, from day one in other words. I feel encouraged and really hope that there can be some progress made on these very annoying problems. I'll never be able to serously recommend OO.o until most of them ARE taken care of either. Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Attachments
In news:8090ef5cdead45d0a2da352d6e6d0...@timpc, Tim Derflinger scarf...@hawaii.rr.com typed: Still waiting for any answer on why downloading Open Office has interrupted my access to downloading attachments...docs..PPS...etcThanks, Tim I'm no guru, but I've never experienced, nor have I ever heard of, downloading Open Office doing that. Neither the download, installation or running of OOo have anything to do with that part of the operating sysem. Your OS? Your OO rev? Machine Known free of viruses and malware? What programs did you use to establish that you have no malware of any kind? From where did you download OOo? Have you installed it? Or just downloaded it? If you installed it, is it working OK? Error Messages from OOo? What were they, precisely? Anything else you can think of that might help. The only single possblitity I can think of off the top of my head is that during installation, you said YES when it asked if you wanted OO.o to take over all relevant extensions?, but eve that shouldn't have had anythinig to do with accessing attachment downloads. Provide more data; help others to help you. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Attachments
In news:8090ef5cdead45d0a2da352d6e6d0...@timpc, Tim Derflinger scarf...@hawaii.rr.com typed: Still waiting for any answer on why downloading Open Office has interrupted my access to downloading attachments...docs..PPS...etcThanks, Tim You may not have had a response to a prevous post if that's all the information you provided. Lack of response means that for whatever reason, no one known how to answer your question. You need to provide much more informaton that only you would know right now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Attachments
In news:b272766ceeb249cc895b2bd728a35...@timpc, Tim Derflinger scarf...@hawaii.rr.com typed: I don't recall doing that...but is there a fixit? ... Still waiting for any answer on why downloading Open Office has interrupted my access to downloading attachments...docs..PPS...etcThanks, Tim Because when you installed you told it to become the default handler for those document types. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I suspect that's your situation. You told it to grab all the file assocations. Wait for someone to come along and agree with this, but I think if you uninstall OO.o, it will restore your file associations to what they were before the install. OR, you could redo them manually, but it's a lot of work because there are so many of them. You would be wise however to verify that's what happened before you get into a big mess. Stuff does happen, after all. Anybody: Am I right about the associatoins being returned upon an uninstall of OO.o? HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Watermarks in Writer
In news:4c76edf4.5090...@krackedpress.com, webmas...@krackedpress.com webmas...@krackedpress.com typed: On 08/26/2010 03:29 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 22/08/2010 20:37, AG wrote: I must say that this seems like a very over involved rigamarole to go through each time I might want to create some watermark text in a document. Is the OOo development team likely to consider making this process more straightforward like it is in MS Office where the option is already hard coded into the interface? This could be added to the OOo menu as an option to the background options of graphic and color. The thing is, once you have done this and saved the graphic, then you have it for all time and don't need to do it again. It's rather like labels from an address source - a bit fiddly to set up, but once done is set and you don't have to do it again. I always use a graphic image for a watermark that is so light that it will only print in normal or high-quality modes, but WILL NOT show up if it is copied. I use it as a security device once and a while, with some text saying if the watermark is not seen, then this is not a valid copy, or something like this. I also use Watermark text/logos on photos. I wonder how you could create/add them to photos using OOo's suite. It is hard to manually make Watermark images with the software I now use for Ubuntu Linux. No Photoshop and such that I had used for 5-10 years. So if OOo's suite could make the image that could be used as a background image in Writer or Calc, that would be great. Can DRAW or other OOo option create the Watermark image file easily? Using it in Writer as a background image works fine for me, even at 6 by 6 logo sizes. I am learning GIMP, but there is a lot of options I need to find filters and add-ons for and re-learn how to do them in it. Be nice to know OOo's options so I do not need to have one set of skills for Windows and one for Ubuntu/Linux systems. Need that since Ubuntu 10.04 messed up the HP printer driver sets so the color is off on the color laser, where 9.x worked. So I use Ubuntu to create/edit color docs, and use a Win XP laptop to print them. I have to reuse Ubuntu to edit and then reuse Win to print instead of having one suite of software, like OOo, that works on both easily and the same on Win and Linux. GIMP is not easy, so hoping that OOo might be easier. I think this has been covered, but I'd like to reiterate just in case it was missed. Many printers have watermark capability. Both my Epson inkjet and HP Color Laser have it. They both put DRAFT or CONFIDENTIAL defaults, or whatever words you want up to whatever will fit for the font you choose, at a corner-to-cornerpage location. They add it to every page of a document, plus allow you to choose the transparency of the mark, and puts it behind any text so the text remains readable over it. I also agree; OO.o should have the feature to automate the watermark process. It's not obvious to the inexperienced how to create one to use. I wouldn't hold my breath for any changes, though; OO.o is still crammed full of old, early version bugs that never seem to get taken care of. If something half-fast works, they seem to not want to go back and fix the shortcomings. Anyway, if you need a watermark, check your printers, too. I was rather pleased to see it on my old $69 Epson Inkjet printer. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [moderated]
In news:20100825213013.owzc29852.fed1rmmtao104.cox@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net, Norman Henke normhe...@cox.net typed: I am perplexed. All I want to do is open some WKS spreadsheets so I can use them. I get a display in arabic with no menu option to change the display. All this and 30 minutes to download everthing after paying $29.95. What would be your solution to my problem? Norm Henke Did this poor guy ever get a response from anyone? He seems to have been ignored but I hesitate to respond because I don't know fi he's hjacked a thread or what. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Watermarks in Writer
In news:201008222016.42867.johnmking...@yahoo.co.uk, John King johnmking...@yahoo.co.uk typed: AG wrote: Hi list I'm looking to add the watermark Draft diagonally in the background of a document in OOo 3.2.1 Writer, on a GNU/Linux Debian testing machine. So far I can add a background color or graphic, but apparently not text (using Format/ Page/ Background, which is the only option F1 seems to provide under search entry watermarks). Am I missing something? TIA AG I find the easiest way to do this is to use 'openoffice draw' to produce the text and format it with the correct font size, orientation and expansion, then export it as a png graphic. You can then set up your watermark using the exported png as your background graphic. John johnmking...@yahoo.co.uk And if you set the transparency of the watermark text you can also see the other text/pics/etc thru it. Not very elegant, but it works. OO.o should really have a watermark application feature so it's easer to do. Word, WP, etc. all make it easy to do but OO.o makes you use a workaround like this. IMO it'd be a good issue to submit. Personally I don't do issue submits anymore. It can minimize the work too, by making it part of the styles. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Please Refund or kindly reply
Earle, You likely may have been hoodwinked; go ahead and cancel the credit card order ASAP. You purchased the software from a place other than the entity that produces and makes it avaiilable, OpenOffice.org. Do it quickly; once they charge your credit card, it will take one more full billing cycle before the refund can show up on your credit card statement. At OpenOffice.org, the suite is avalable to download for free. A CD can be purchased and mailed to you from openoffice, but there is no KEY assocated with it. You download it, install it, use it - anywhere you want on as many machines as you want. Or you purchase the CD for a nomnal fee to cover the cost of the CD and shipping, and then you install it and use it as above. Your menton of the key indicates you bought it elsewhere. There is no key needed. You don't even need to register your software although they like it if you do so they can tell how many people are using it and approximately where. You can even join the product to help further its goals if you wish. Go to www.openoffice.org for full details. But kill that credit card purchase quickly and get it from openoffice.org; then you know you'll have safe, reliable, no-ads, clean software. I will not mess with challenge-response systems, so I hope you spot this in your waitlist in time to save some money from the bottom feeder (IMO) that sold it to you. HTH, Twayne` n news:92276.32210...@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com, d...@mweb.com.na etglo...@yahoo.com typed: Dear ? I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open office suite by Visa credit card. It card was billed and I was directed to go to my yahoo mail box where a key would be sent. Up until now there is no such key or any communication from open source. I believe I was scammed. The Name on the purchase order is earle taylor The email address indicated on the form is etglo...@yahoo.com Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get access to the program. Failing which I will have to cancel the credit card transaction by tomorrow Thanks for your help Earle Taylor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Please Refund or kindly reply
Earle, You likely may have been hoodwinked; go ahead and cancel the credit card order ASAP. You purchased the software from a place other than the entity that produces and makes it avaiilable, OpenOffice.org. Do it quickly; once they charge your credit card, it will take one more full billing cycle before the refund can show up on your credit card statement. At OpenOffice.org, the suite is avalable to download for free. A CD can be purchased and mailed to you from openoffice, but there is no KEY assocated with it. You download it, install it, use it - anywhere you want on as many machines as you want. Or you purchase the CD for a nomnal fee to cover the cost of the CD and shipping, and then you install it and use it as above. Your menton of the key indicates you bought it elsewhere. There is no key needed. You don't even need to register your software although they like it if you do so they can tell how many people are using it and approximately where. You can even join the product to help further its goals if you wish. Go to www.openoffice.org for full details. But kill that credit card purchase quickly and get it from openoffice.org; then you know you'll have safe, reliable, no-ads, clean software. I will not mess with challenge-response systems, so I hope you spot this in your waitlist in time to save some money from the bottom feeder (IMO) that sold it to you. HTH, Twayne` n news:92276.32210...@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com, d...@mweb.com.na etglo...@yahoo.com typed: Dear ? I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open office suite by Visa credit card. It card was billed and I was directed to go to my yahoo mail box where a key would be sent. Up until now there is no such key or any communication from open source. I believe I was scammed. The Name on the purchase order is earle taylor The email address indicated on the form is etglo...@yahoo.com Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get access to the program. Failing which I will have to cancel the credit card transaction by tomorrow Thanks for your help Earle Taylor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Open Office -information request
In news:aanlktikrjxpx-+-szhj5mnc1grtgyd2hphv97nlhm...@mail.gmail.com, Claire Gilbertson gilbe...@eecs.oregonstate.edu typed: Hi, I am a master student working with Carlos Jensen in the HCI group at Oregon State University, in conjunction with the OSL on a study of contribution and joining patterns in FOSS. I am working with Jenifer Davids and Nitin Mohan, who you may have talked with in the past. Thank you for all the help you and your community have provided us in our research. Is there a single person or mailing list who I can direct a specific information gathering request to? Thanks, Claire No, there really isn't. This newsgroup is the main focus for assistance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] WAITLISTED? Re: Re: Re: Please Refund or kindly reply (Action Required)
In news:4c6e738c.6000...@rogers.com, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com typed: You try to help someone and this is what you get. I guess he won't be getting much help. Original Message Subject: Re: Re: [users] Please Refund or kindly reply (Action Required) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: etglo...@yahoo.com To: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com Hello James Knott, Your message about Re: [users] Please Refund or kindly reply was waitlisted. Please add yourself to my Guest List so your messages will be delivered to my Inbox. Use the link below. ... Yeah, agreed JK! I thought this sort of silliness had died out. Too bad too, because the user is probably simply inexperienced in what he's done, namely chasing almost everyone away, including good-mail type posts, in addition to bad-mail posts. That is, assuming it's not a spammer wanna-be looking for verified email addresses to sell. Yahoo should know better too, and warned the users. He must have a way to look at his waitlist and see what's there if he really wants to. No way I want to be listed in other people's address books if I can help it! Regards, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Please Refund or kindly reply
In news:37e83451-9693-4d5e-9c1c-c3dfa503a...@halblog.com, Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com typed: Forget it. For now he's not even getting email from this group and the one email I sent him obviously didn't get read, since he seems to expect ME to trace something for him -- and the text of my email made it clear we are volunteers, not employees. I'm waiting to see how he responds and if he's nice, I'll help him. If he's a jerk, I'll insist he read my entire email before helping him. Hal On Aug 20, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Twayne wrote: Earle, You likely may have been hoodwinked; go ahead and cancel the credit card order ASAP. You purchased the software from a place other than the entity that produces and makes it avaiilable, OpenOffice.org. Do it quickly; once they charge your credit card, it will take one more full billing cycle before the refund can show up on your credit card statement. At OpenOffice.org, the suite is avalable to download for free. A CD can be purchased and mailed to you from openoffice, but there is no KEY assocated with it. You download it, install it, use it - anywhere you want on as many machines as you want. Or you purchase the CD for a nomnal fee to cover the cost of the CD and shipping, and then you install it and use it as above. Your menton of the key indicates you bought it elsewhere. There is no key needed. You don't even need to register your software although they like it if you do so they can tell how many people are using it and approximately where. You can even join the product to help further its goals if you wish. Go to www.openoffice.org for full details. But kill that credit card purchase quickly and get it from openoffice.org; then you know you'll have safe, reliable, no-ads, clean software. I will not mess with challenge-response systems, so I hope you spot this in your waitlist in time to save some money from the bottom feeder (IMO) that sold it to you. HTH, Twayne` n news:92276.32210...@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com, d...@mweb.com.na etglo...@yahoo.com typed: Dear ? I made a purchase yesterday 18 August of the latest open office suite by Visa credit card. It card was billed and I was directed to go to my yahoo mail box where a key would be sent. Up until now there is no such key or any communication from open source. I believe I was scammed. The Name on the purchase order is earle taylor The email address indicated on the form is etglo...@yahoo.com Kindly revert with some instructions on how I can get access to the program. Failing which I will have to cancel the credit card transaction by tomorrow Thanks for your help Earle Taylor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org He's reading them. You have to include his address that's all. He didn't say so in hs response to me, but apparently he's checking his waitlst. See the post he replied to just after your post. He replied to that emal. I suspect too many responses, of the ones that do think to copy hiim, are being too condescending to keep his attention. Plus most are not replying to him, which has to be done in this case; they're rather talking around him and complaining rather than trying to fiigure out what to do. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Oracle's $50 Open Offce?
Woof! Anyone else know anything about this? They've made it a little confusing, but can anyone tell my why it would be $50 for a standard perpetual single-seat (quantity 1) license and $90 for the Enterprise Edition or $90 for the MSO plug-in? And can anyone explain what the check minimum quantities requirements are all about? https://shop.oracle.com/pls/ostore/product?p1=oracleofficesc=ocom_openoffice And why wouldn't they indicate where it can be gotten absolutely free? Or that it can even BE gotten for FREE! They're as bad as many of the other skanky sites I've seen! I suspect all the rumors are now becoming true - they're touting the product as though they were the developers! NO WAY would I pay $90 for the bugs I know are present in it, especially the stoopid ones that date from the early days of the program! I still have MSO: I may be rethinking my strategies now Oracle's decided to screw over everyone from the creators to the users. Perpetual or not, which I'm sure they'll screw over too, it's not a good deal in any way. And guess where they send you for support? HTH, Twayne` -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Re: Return Receipts.
In news:aanlktindk1tce5s7x2rqxvk5xi90w32psgvzmero7...@mail.gmail.com, Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com typed: On 24 July 2010 00:20, Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com wrote: snip Is there some sort of issue where some newsreaders don't have the ability to control receipts reactions to them? I've never heard any client that didn't make it easy to handle. snip I don't think *newsreaders* ever see requests for return receipts, do they? I *think* it's only *mail* readers.So, according to my theory, if you read this list via Gmane you'd never notice the problem. Similarly I don't think you can request a receipt for a *news* post, only for a *mail* message. Or ??? Dunno, that's a good question. I've never seen one in a ng, but i suppose different clients might. Seems like it'd be a waste of time to look for them with nntp. I can see it being silly for lists, as this discussion is mostly about, but I thnk there's a lot of guessing and mis-understanding about how easy it is to just ignore them and any code they send. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Return Receipts.
In news:4c485213.60...@rogers.com, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com typed: Bruce Martin wrote: I see this as a case where the borders of live and let live have really been set for all of us by the provisions of the internet and the existing software as a whole, not by any smaller group. So, you feel it's your right to irritate so many others. Mail lists are one place where return receipts should *NEVER* be used. Agreed; and that includes responding to them, although I have to chuckle when I think about a list where everyone intentionally responds to one from a particular party. In the extreme I suppose you could consider that a DoS attempt, but it's still amusing to think about. In addition to that, if you run into a few spam-fighters, they are likely to find complaints issued to their ISPs for abuse of the service. IMO: -- It's usually newbies feeling their way around all the toys and options without really knowing yet what they are doing. -- NEVER set receipts to automatic reply. -- I keep mine set to let me choose and action if/when one arrives. If I should start to get nuisance receipt requests, I just set it to NEVER reply. So, it's really manageable by the person receiving them and to hell with the ones sending them; they'll learn eventually, especially when they start returning receipts to spammers. You don't see much of it nowadays, but that used to be a fav way for spammers to add value to the spam lists they were selling with guaranteed active e-mail addresses; it let them charge more for their spam lists. -- If you have NO valid use for a return receipt in either direction, just turn them OFF and forget about them. I would suspect that less than 1% of home users and most small businesses have any use for them. They are really of no value to anyone, are outdated, and of value only to questioinable sources. I suppose you could still make a spam list using return receipts, but very few are going to bite since most understand it's a worthless action. If you need an ack, ask for an ack; forget about return receipts; they are no longer of any viable use. My 2 ¢ anyway, Twayne` -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Return Receipts.
In news:4c485942.7030...@cfl.rr.com, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com typed: On 7/22/2010 10:13 AM, James Knott wrote: Bruce Martin wrote: I see this as a case where the borders of live and let live have really been set for all of us by the provisions of the internet and the existing software as a whole, not by any smaller group. So, you feel it's your right to irritate so many others. Mail lists are one place where return receipts should *NEVER* be used. The simple solution is for everyone to create a simple rule that deletes, unread and un-answered, all messages with a return receipt request. Then you need only add the offender's email to the rule. Works for me, I don't even see messages from Bruce. If enough people do this offenders will never receive any answers and will only be talking to themselves and the ether. IMO it's easier to just ignore them and set to Never Respond, and forget it. A Read Receipt only means that someone at the address has downloaded the mail; it does nothing to make sure the proper person read it, or even bothered with noticing it. The last Return Receipt request I saw came from a spammer that managed to get thru my filters; I have my receipt settings to alert me but let me decide whether to respond. And if it became a nuisance, I'd turn them off completely and never see another one. This is an interesting discussion thread; Unless they were phishing for addresses, it's probably just a newbie or some type of miscreant; neither is worth any time investment, IMO. Is there some sort of issue where some newsreaders don't have the ability to control receipts reactions to them? I've never heard any client that didn't make it easy to handle. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Bug 113372 Prune Message Disposition Notification headers from all incoming mailing list mail (was : Re: Return Receipts)
In news:4c4879cb.2030...@nb.net, John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net typed: Hi Lars, In a message dated 2010.07.22 12:40 -0500, Lars Nooden wrote: ...Mail lists are one place where return receipts should *NEVER* be used. James, maybe he's stupid, maybe he's just trolling, maybe he's collecting business intelligence for one of our competitors. But you are right, the using of Message Disposition Notification should never be used on mailing lists. Continued abuse, either accidental or intentional, can be prevented by pruning that header from the message before it goes out to all subscribers: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113372 It's a machine's job and, for good quality mailing list software, very quick to implement. You are right - and thanks for filing the issue - but that last condition (good quality mailing list software) may be the catch: Months ago, in discussion about another mailing list problem, Paul said that the list manager software is really beyond community control - but that IAC change is on the way, which should address many of these problems. In the meantime, one might hope that courtesy would prevail. The notification appears to be a holdover from MS Exchange / Outlook combinations which cause large volumes of messages to be lost without even an error message. Interesting! Could you provide a little more detail, or a link? Thanks, John I don't have a link, but keep in mind that the original intention of Outlook/MSExchange code was never meant for the intERnet; it was designed for the intRAnet, which would normally occur within a LAN, not the WAN. Outlook Express was MS's attempt at an internet version that could span both inter and intra nets. In those original days there was little problem but progress and evil quickly took over. I really have to ask: Why is it an issue, really, when each person has their own control over whether a receipt request is honored, denied, or asked which action to take? HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Saving scanned image as ODT?
In news:i14t0f$85...@dough.gmane.org, Gordon gbpli...@gmail.com typed: On 08/07/2010 17:00, JOE Conner wrote: On 7/8/2010 8:49 AM, Gordon wrote: Does anyone know of a Linux scanner utility that will save the scanned image as odt or something capable of being imported into odt? (On Windows my wife's HP Officejet has a function to scan into a Word document - unfortunately this function doesn't work in Linux!) Assuming you have the scanner drivers for your linux computer, if you open a blank Writer document, then INSERT - PICTURE - SCAN - REQUEST This works for me with a windows box. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA But will that be editable, like an ordinary odt document? That depends on your scanner software and OCR software, if any. Just be sure to save the output in a format OO.o understands (text, DOS text, doc, odt, rtf, etc.). If you have OCR (optical Character Recognition) software installed, then just as with any other scan you would be able to output an image, then turn the text to edtable form of regular text, and each image to a separate image. In reality that has nothing to do with OO.o; it would be the same with any scanner supportnig the image output. Output the image, use OCR to turn it into text + images for non-text areas. Then you save that as .rtf or whatever OO.o compatible output you have, and save your odt doc. In my case: My scanner allows me to indicate which areas of the scanned paper will be text and which areas will be images in a Prevew mode. You just tell the scanner what areas to treat as text and which to treat as a graphic, then go ahead and scan, save it as a text file, word file, send it to the clipboard, whatever you wish to finish working with it. So at least in my case the real work takes place right in the Twain Scanner settinigs. I'm using an Epson Perfection flatbed scanner to scan large documents and Twain scanninig software that came with the scanner. Twain is one of the most common formats used with scanners. That's what allows you to outliine an area on the scan Preview and tell the scanner whether to initerpret it as text or an image. Scan==mark text/image/table areas===outputs image/text file===saves in format OO.o can read (.rtf, word's .doc, etc..) I usually save it as a Word file and then open/resave it with OO.o to an odt file. Hope I've made some sort of sense - looking back at what I've said, it seems clumsy. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: New Computer
In news:133561.83488...@web180602.mail.sp1.yahoo.com, Landis Bargatze lrb...@att.net typed: I would like to reinstall OPEN OFFICE, but need some clarification. I've just purchased a new computer at Micro Center and was told OPen Office was FREE. I was charged over $100 for a 3 year subscription. Why? Please advise. Landis Bargatze 314-831-7695 lrb...@att.net I could not find a phone # on your web site to call and talk to you directly. Could you give me a PHONE NUMBER Somehow you've been taken advantage of, Landis. You should not, IMO, have been charged for ANYTHING to do with Open Office; it's a free program, its license allows you to use it anywhere you wish, on any machine you wish, on as many machines as you wish. All without charge. http://www.openoffice.org/ is the ONLY headquarters for the development of OO.o and anyone else who claims to be is lying. Open Offce is a free download from http://www.openoffice.org/ to anyone who wishes to download it, and for a very nominal fee it seems I recall there being a CD you can buy instead of downloading it. You're only asked to pay for the CD and duplication costs; nothing else, and it's a very low price even when SH is added to it. Personally, I always download it. A new update/upgrade is scheduled to come out this fall sometime and it too will be free, without charge, from http://www.openoffice.org/. It IS possible for someone to repackage OO.o and add things to it to add new features, etc., in order to usually target more things that OO.o cannot do natively, but those are the exceptions: It's often the same programs you'd get from http://www.openoffice.org/ that they sell. Are you sure the $100 was for a 3-year subscription to Open Office? Or might it have been a subscription to updates for an antivirus suite like Norton or McAfee or one of the many others around? If the money had anything to do with OO.o, I'd start asking/insisting on getting my money back. Computer-ese is sometimes hard to interpret so if you wish to paste parts of any of th einfo you have received from Micro Center, feel free; someone will assist you with what it's about. If you wish to give the brand and model of your computer, perhaps someone here could find an answer for you too. I looked at a few of their offerings but didn't find any software bundles provided to look at and so found nothing useful. But with your information something more useful might be available for us to look at and see what you received. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: openoffice.org
In news:693bb4477aeb43ec9c9b703a0e3cc...@sylvia, sylvia smfredsb...@shaw.ca typed: I was told to download this program so i could recieved e-mails from this program from another computer. As it is now I can't open the attachment. Thanks Sylvia Can you ask them to send you the file in another format? OO.o wll save in Word and RTF formats also; one of the two should suffice with some exceptions, but ... you've indicated nothing to actually describe for sure what you're trying to do. There is also an addin from Sun that will allow Word to read OO.o native formats and it mostly works well; it depends on the versions of Word and OO.o in use, neither of which you indicated. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: What is the use of the envelope style?
Hi John, 00.0 3.2.0 and 3.2.1 and 2.4.?: Sorry if i underestimated your expertise level; it's hard to tell sometimes so I err of the safest side as a rule, or try to anyway. I made a few comments inline: In news:4c11af69.6070...@nb.net, John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net typed: Hi Twayne, In a message dated 2010.06.10 18:59 -0500, Twayne wrote: Where is the envelope style found? I just looked at all styles and none are for envelopes. Stylist (F-11), under the Page styles. Understood. The Styles Format dialog. It makes sense that there may be one though. Well, yes but... conceptually (from style class design) Envelope is a tough fit to the Page styles: the only attributes they really share are that they are 2-dimensional and printed. [In fact, that tough fit may be an underlying design issue.] Yeah my list doesn't include anything about envelopes. That makes me pretty curious but I suppose it would if I purposely saved them as a style, but I don't see the need. Once you get it started, swtch to Format; Page; to get better control of the parameters you want to tweak. IMO anyway. According to the Stylist, the page style becomes Envelope after an envelope is formed from the Insert|Envelope wizard That hasn't happened here; I'll have to have a look at Options and see if there's something there to explain it. I'm curious, that's all. Correct. Insert; Envelop should also open a dialog window where in one of its tabs you can set things such as return/recipient address, database info and either add the envelope to the document or create just the envelope. Then in the second tab, Format, you have the dimensions and location of the envelope within the scope of the paper size you're using. Then the third tab is for your printer, which way to place the invelope into the tray, and any offset you might need to use to tweak the position. Yes, of course I know all that. The point, though, is that after you do that, Writer also assigns the page style Envelope to the result - even though it has nothing to do with what you just set up under the Format tab. That is curious; that doesn't happen here. I just tried it by creating an ipso factum... page with an envelope inserted intto the document and saved them to disk. Closed/reopened OO.o Writer and checked F11: Still no envelope entry in the list. Didn't do a Restart, but I don't see where it'd matter to anything. OO.o used a strange methodology for setting up its envelopes so it takes a little study as to how to use the dimensions and offsets ... See the Documentation entries at OO.o for more on envelopes. Yes, I thought i made it clear that I have studied the documentation wiki (and the Help, of course) pretty thoroughly before asking the question - and no two of those three sources - Help, FAQ and Writer Guide - agree on how envelopes should be done! There is one that is a set of various envelope templates which you can download somewhere on OO.o. If you can find that one, or someone could point us to it, there might be explanatories there. IIRC they worked on my inkjet but I never tried any of them on the laserjet. Actually, while I'm thinking of it, there are some errors in the F11 list, too. Like, I'd expect Signature to right-align, but it doesn't. There's more than a few of them actually. - but the page style apparently has no connection to what was defined in the Envelope wizard. Yeah, unless it had something like #10 as part of the name, I don't know that you could trust what it might indicate anyway unless for you it opens the Insert Envelope dialog box for you. I -think- what you mean here is what I meant above when I said OO.o has a completely different, non-user-friendly way of creating envelopes. Well, that's already a pretty damning statement - but actually what I meant was that the Format settings from the Insert|Envelope command are different from those in the Envelope page style which is also invoked by the Insert|Envelope command. In fact, not only are the settings different, they are drawn from different source lists! I can't imagine why that is, and was hoping someone on the list knew. Perhaps it's named envelope but isn't what you're calling envelope right now?? Naming things can get confusing at times. It does seem like it's not related at all and gives what seems to be pretty odd results. It's frustrating and quite annoying to try to design envelopes for anything but the #10 sample exactly as presented. Change ANYthing about it, and it seems to go all to hell on you. That should not be, and is what I'm ultimately trying to overcome. IMO, forget the F11 access and just stick to the Insert; Envelope; method. Notiice where the vertical and horizontal references are for the dimensions, and empirically work out what each dimension actually does for you. Get it working right on a full sheet of paper and then switch to an actual envelope and tweak
[users] Re: What is the use of the envelope style?
Not sure I understand your question and I don't understand John's response, so that might indicate I'm off base here. But just in case I'm not, see inline: In news:4c0fb1c7.2050...@nb.net, John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net typed: [This is a third attempt in two weeks at a question that has so far had no responses - I don't know whether because I ask questions poorly or because others are as clueless as I am on such questions. If the former: my questions may seem long, because I do a lot of homework before asking a question, and try to lay out the background in a systematic way. However, I'm open to suggestion on how to ask questions more efficiently; meanwhile, I try again, from yet another angle.] (1) What is the point of the envelope style? Where is the envelope style found? I just looked at all styles and none are for envelopes. It makes sense that there may be one though. Can you tell me how to get to the envelope style? According to the Stylist, the page style becomes Envelope after an envelope is formed from the Insert|Envelope wizard Correct. Insert; Envelop should also open a dialog window where in one of its tabs you can set things such as return/recipient address, database info and either add the envelope to the document or create just the envelope. Then in the second tab, Format, you have the dimensions and location of the envelope within the scope of the paper size you're using. Then the third tab is for your printer, which way to place the invelope into the tray, and any offset you might need to use to tweak the position. OO.o used a strange methodology for setting up its envelopes so it takes a little study as to how to use the dimensions and offsets; it's not very intuitive and nowhere near as simple as referencing it to the top-left of the page and then dimension it. See the Documentation entries at OO.o for more on envelopes. - but the page style apparently has no connection to what was defined in the Envelope wizard. I -think- what you mean here is what I meant above when I said OO.o has a completely different, non-user-friendly way of creating envelopes. It does seem like it's not related at all and gives what seems to be pretty odd results. It's frustrating and quite annoying to try to design envelopes for anything but the #10 sample exactly as presented. Change ANYthing about it, and it seems to go all to hell on you. (2) Where should the envelope size be set? - In the Envelope page style, the Envelope wizard Format tab, or the Printer tab (Setup-Advanced), or ... ? IMO, in the dialog box that opens when you tdo an Insert; Envelope. Another crummy part of this is that you may also have to change your printer paper size temporarily in order to print an envelope because some of the dimensional references for envelopes, I noticed, seem to be to the bottom of the sheet and not the top. I can't find it right now, but there are one or two papers that have been written on how to design for the various size envelopes including face-up/face-down, left, right, centered in the tray and all the rest of it. I can't find the link now but I know they exist; perhaps a post specifically asking for them would work the best. I now have the varous envelopes I need so I know if I tried to explain it I'd screw it up, so better you should go to the horse's mouth for the information. Sorry. This problem with envelopes has been in OO.o Writer since day one and for whatever reason, no one in the design arena seems to want to tackle fixing it. IMO it's a totally unacceptable thing to allow to continue to exist, but I guess they figure it's not important enough to bother with yet. When it might be time is anyone's guess as it comes up over and over here. Meanwhile, maybe one of these links will help you out: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Printing_envelopes http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Print_An_Envelope.html http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/Printing/How_to_print_an_envelope_with_OpenOffice.org http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/category_index/wordprocessing.html The above are all from the first page of a Google Search; you'll get a lot of hits with writer design envelopes There's gotta be something useful there unless someone can pipe up with the precise links. Once more, I'm not aware of an envelope style beyond the settings you get when you click Insert; Envelope. I'd love to know how you get to them so I can take a look at it. HTH, Twayne` The various references - the Help, the wiki Writer Guide http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Printing_envelopes, and the wiki FAQ oohttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/Printing/How_to_print_an_envelope_with_OpenOffice.org - all have different answers to these questions, none apparently
[users] Re: Re: What is the use of the envelope style?
Hey John, There are always going to be those whose own styles we disagree with and even oddities between cultures/languages that can bug us if we're not careful. If you can see you aren't going to be able to get anythinig useful from a responder and they seem to be condescending or whatever, don't let it bug you; just move on to the next post without comment; it saves fostering animosity on the groups and causes a lot less off-track thinkingg. My opinion, anyway. HTH, Twayne` n news:4c102e86.4060...@nb.net, John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net typed: In a message dated 2010.06.09 18:10 -0500, NoOp wrote: (1) What is the point of the envelope style? According to the Stylist, the page style becomes Envelope after an envelope is formed from the Insert|Envelope wizard - but the page style apparently has no connection to what was defined in the Envelope wizard. Open a new Writer document. Format|Page|Paper format:|Format:#10 Envelope|Orientation:Landscape. Address your envelope print. So, you don't use the Envelope page style (which is automagically, but ambiguously, connected to the Insert|Envelope wizard)? Also, since this approach (either Format|Page or selection of the Envelope page style) has no set provision for Return and Addressee blocks, how do you like to handle that? (2) Where should the envelope size be set? - In the Envelope page style, the Envelope wizard Format tab, or the Printer tab (Setup-Advanced), or ... ? See above. If you wish to modify the default Envelope Style: Format|Styles...|select page styles|right click Envelope click 'Modify'. So then you /do/ favor using the Envelope page style? Of course I know how to modify a page style, including Envelope, but a simple page lacks essential attributes of an envelope (like address blocks), while a page has attributes inherently absent from an envelope (like numbering). The Insert|Envelope wizard, OTOH, does define a proper envelope style class, but I can't figure out its connection to the Envelope page style. Thanks for your reply, but those questions still elude me. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Is the install of Ooo 3.2.1 incredibly slow?
In news:4c094ddd.70...@silkroadconsultants.co.uk, Rob Clement r...@silkroadconsultants.co.uk typed: Is it just my machine AMD 2.0 Ghz running windows Vista seems to take a very long time installing Ooo 3.2.1. Thanks Rob Well, yes, it is, and err, no, it is not. You have to remember that you're installing a pretty large and complex program with OO.o. It can -seem- longer when compared to, say, installing MA Office and all of its OO.o comparable programs (word processor, spread sheet, database, excel, draw, etc etc etc.. Where with MSO you install the Office portion and then the Word, then Excel, then Power Point, then Access and ... but there's no disk swapping with OO.o; it does it all in one throw, so to speak. Yes, OO.o does take a comparatively long time to install, but not inordinatly so unless something (background tasks, not enough RAM, etc. etc.) else helps to slow it down. You don't give a timeframe, but I just installed 3.2.1 before responding here and it didn't seem any slower or any faster than any of the past installs I've done of past versions. Other than the installation I did nothing else on the machine because I knew it took a fair amount of time to install it and I prefer to watch, so if something goes astray, I know more about when it happended and what t was doing, thanks to the status report all during the install. After all, how long IS too long for an install? g. There's a finite amount of work that must be done and that of course takes a finite length of time. Everything from your RAM amount to cpu speed/cpu load to hard drive rpms and more all comes into play for the install. I'm guessing but it must have been around 7 minutes for my install and I have a 3 GHz cpu, GHz Front side Buss, 4 Gig RAM, 10,000 rpm SATA hard drives and my page file on a separate physical hard drive and probably a few other things I'm not thinking of. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Multiple sheets in Writer
In news:aanlktindpplij3kxvnltsd1xly6rckzw5ekx4o5vc...@mail.gmail.com, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com typed: On 6 June 2010 12:59, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: Yes, it's very easy: o B Create your second document to follow on from your first. B (You can change page styles and so on, so there need be no similarity between them, in fact.) o B Ensure your second document starts on an odd-numbered page (whether or not page numbers appear). o B Print the entire file. o B Now divide the print-out so that one document is in your left hand and the other in your right. B (It doesn't matter which is where.) Than you, Brian, but I am not referring to files to print. I need to have several Writer documents together, but each is in fact a separate document. I can put them together in a zip file, but then I need to open up four OOo Writer instances to open them. Much easier would be to have sheets like Calc has: all the documents in a single Write file. Check out Master Document mode. There you can collect several files into what appears to be one file with continuous page numbering, titling, and so on as though it was just one document. But in reality it is a collection of your several documents. To do edits, you still have to go to the original file to edit it, but it'll show up as changed when you go back to Master Document view. It works well for me, at least. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Multiple sheets in Writer
In news:4c0b9174.1040...@gmail.com, Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com typed: Dotan Cohen wrote: On 6 June 2010 12:59, Brian Barkerb.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: ... From Writer's Help: Working with Master Documents and Subdocuments A master document lets you manage large documents, such as a book with many chapters. The master document can be seen as a container for individual OpenOffice.org Writer files. The individual files are called subdocuments. To Create a Master Document Do one of the following: If you are creating a new master document, the first entry in the Navigator should be a Text entry. Type an introduction or enter some text. This ensures that after having edited an existing style in the master document, you see the changed style when viewing the subdocuments. In the Navigator for master documents (should open automatically, else press F5 to open), click and hold the Insert icon, and do one of the following: Choose File - Save. To Edit a Master Document Use the Navigator for rearranging and editing the subdocuments in a master document. To open a subdocument for editing, double-click the name of the subdocument in the Navigator. To remove a subdocument from the master document, right-click the subdocument in the Navigator list and choose Delete. The subdocument file is not deleted, only the entry in the Navigator is removed. To add text to a master document, right-click an item in the Navigator list, and then choose Insert - Text. A text section is inserted before the selected item in the master document where you can type the text that you want. You cannot insert text next to an existing text entry in the Navigator. To reorder the subdocuments in a master document, drag a subdocument to a new location in the Navigator list. You can also select a subdocument in the list, and click the Move down or Move up icon. To add an index, such as a table of contents, right-click in the Navigator list, and then choose Insert - Index. To update an index in a master document, select the index in the Navigator, and then click the Update icon. When you insert an object like a frame or a picture into a master document, do not anchor the object to page. Instead, set the anchor to paragraph on the Format - (Object type) - Type tab page, and then set the object's position relative to Entire Page in the Horizontal and Vertical list boxes. To Start Each Subdocument on a New Page Ensure that each subdocument starts with a heading that uses the same paragraph style, for example Heading 1. In the master document, choose Format - Styles and Formatting, and click the Paragraph Styles icon. Right-click Heading 1 and choose Modify. Click the Text Flow tab. In the Breaks area, select Insert, and then select Pagein the Type box. If you want each subdocument to start on an odd page, select With Page Style, and select Right page in the box. Click OK. To Export a Master Document as a OpenOffice.org Text Document Choose File - Export. In the File format list, select a text document file format and click Export. The subdocuments will be exported as sections. Use Format - Sections to unprotect and remove sections, if you prefer a plain text document without sections. Related Topics Indexes Covering Several Documents Navigator in master mode - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
In news:4c0ad696.1010...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4c0ab653.5040...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4c081aa8@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4c06da92.2070...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: ... My problem child is a 1.6M file -- 15 pages, each with a 5-column table containing a header row and 5 picture rows. Above each picture is a line of text. Apparently just reopening an existing file goes through repagination, for some reason. Yes, I sure hope this issue gets some attention. Do you think there's any point in opening an issue, or would it just be closed as a duplicate? (I'm sure there must be at least one out there already!) IMO it might make it if if were phrased properly and concisely detailed, not sure. The hardest part is probably the research to find anything similar is already submitted and accurate - it's over a year since I've had anything to do with the issues sytem. Perhaps if it were tied tothe repagination process as that's a new revelatioin, at last to me. I suspect pagination of causing other things too, like the jumping cursor and not going back to where it originally was, and a couple other things I can't think of right now. If it relocates the cursor, then it could relocate images, I'd assume. I also noticed that captions also follow the right image when they get relocated - maybe that's due to anchoring, I don't know right now; it just occurred to me. Probably the worst part of getting them to look at this is I've never found a pattern to be able to predict when or if it may or may not act up. Like your example; I'd have predicted iit would be OK based on the infor you provided but it's getting toward the border line of the file sizes I've experienced it on. Good luck, Twayne I'll probably give it a shot -- at least I have a relatively small file, and I just tried opening it five different times. Each time the first problem is on page 5, with the first picture row graphics moved down; sometimes the text moved down, too, other times it stayed in place. The other differences were less predictable, but I think this would give them something to go on, since there's repeatability (at least on my VistaHP/OOo3.1.1 system). If you've got a different configuration, would you be willing to give it a try and see what happens for you? Yes, I'd gladly give it a try. Interestingly, the graphics move up, not down here. I have XP Pro SP3, OO.o 3.2, but it was the same back on XP SP2 and OO.o 2.x and 1.x. It would be interesting if there were diffs between operating systems. BTW, what do you anchor the graphics to? My Word imports are all anchored to character, which I change to Paragraph when I see them, but it seems to make no difference to anything. I've been told part of it's due to my not anchoring images properly, but when it's imported from Word, I shouldn't have to go inspecting all the anchors and besides, it seems to make no difference. HTH, Twayne` They're mostly anchored To paragraph -- although there are some that I reanchored when I was running into problems before I learned the trick of inserting and deleting a row. I'm sending the file off-list. BTW, just now I tried once to reopen from the Recent files list and had a different error (that time, the first error affected a graphic anchored To page and totally messed up pagination), but trying again got me back to the same error as before. In any case, though, there always seems to be an error somewhere! You should have received my e-mailed response by now, right? HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] mid-page sytle switch? Writer
XP Pro and NOF 11 Is there a way to set a new Style other than Next Page. e.g. how do you switch styles in mid-page and then back again? I'm probably not well caffiene injected yet, but I can't seem to do it. TIA, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Re: 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
In news:4c081aa8@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4c06da92.2070...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: Twayne [mailto:twa...@twaynesdomain.com] noted: In news:4c0572d0.8090...@gmail.com, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com typed: On 6/1/2010 10:52 AM, Twayne wrote: I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I had some success in figuring out the how/why of OO.o 3.2.2 screwing up images in large documents SNIP descriptions. Of course, duplicate my claims on your own before entering a new issue too. HTH, Twayne` I wonder, how are you anchoring the images? To page? Paragraph? Character? Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Thanks Joe; I know what you're about here. In Word I have the images anchored to the paragraphs the images occur in. When OO.o opens the Word document, the anchors often move. Usually they've moved up and to the left. When I look in Writer at the anchors, they've oten move up a paragarph is have been changed to anchored to a letter. If one screws up, they almost all get screwed up throughout the document. Regardless of the anchoring situation OO.o requires, it should be able to determine them from the Word doc that it opens. I no longer recall how small, but a small document doesn't have issues with the images; I'd have to look it up from 2.x. And these are only 20 to 30 Meg files, so they aren't really all that large, even considering they'e zips. I can't tell with my meager tools, but it sounds like a buffer problem to me of some kind. It's a really annoying issue. I've read that documents created from scratch in OO.o don't have this problem but I don't know that for a fact. HTH, Twayne` snip All of that to say, you are not alone. - K Definitely not alone -- and totally native OOo documents can't be exempted, at least in 3.1.1 on VistaHP. I recently had a project with tables, each of which had text and a graphic (pasted into the cell). They've definitely liked to move, not consistently but fairly frequently. All had the same anchoring. but only some had problems. I'd close the document after saving it when it looked fine, and on reopening, some of the cell contents would have slid down as if that cell were using vertical centering instead of vertical top. I found that if I temporarily added a row to the table above the problem area start, then deleted the row, things would go back to normal. Close to the same thing here; only if I delete the row added after pasting in the image, it more often than not jumps up and left of the table again! It seems to need/want that first line/s every time in a cell. You also have to have at least one para mark on a blank line after any text above it or it'll shove part of the text partly to the bottom. Using pic Layout shoots the image right back out of the cell again, but always up and left; never down as you mentioned. And the stupid anchor still sits there in the cell! Gr! But if I break the problem documents into multiple documents, a lot of those problems will mysteriously go away and everything will jump right back to where it belongs. it seems that repagination is the event during which the misalignments happen, but only in a too long document, whatever that might be. It appears to be between 20 to 30 Meg mostly. But that makes for a LOT of darned documents when I started out with only one in Word. I maybe could live with it if the limit was around 100K, but not 25k. I'm hoping the PTB might be taking notice of this thread. Thanks for your comments. Cheers, Twayne` My problem child is a 1.6M file -- 15 pages, each with a 5-column table containing a header row and 5 picture rows. Above each picture is a line of text. Apparently just reopening an existing file goes through repagination, for some reason. Yes, I sure hope this issue gets some attention. Do you think there's any point in opening an issue, or would it just be closed as a duplicate? (I'm sure there must be at least one out there already!) IMO it might make it if if were phrased properly and concisely detailed, not sure. The hardest part is probably the research to find anything similar is already submitted and accurate - it's over a year since I've had anything to do with the issues sytem. Perhaps if it were tied tothe repagination process as that's a new revelatioin, at last to me. I suspect pagination of causing other things too, like the jumping cursor and not going back to where it originally was, and a couple other things I can't think of right now. If it relocates the cursor, then it could relocate images, I'd assume. I also noticed that captions also follow the right image when they get relocated - maybe that's due to anchoring, I don't know right now; it just occurred to me. Probably the worst part of getting them to look at this is I've never found
[users] Re: mid-page sytle switch? Writer
In news:4c0aae0b.9050...@gmail.com, Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com typed: Twayne wrote: XP Pro and NOF 11 Is there a way to set a new Style other than Next Page. e.g. how do you switch styles in mid-page and then back again? I'm probably not well caffiene injected yet, but I can't seem to do it. TIA, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Insert Manual break. Select Page break Dan But ... that creates a new page; I want it to happen on the same page so I can switch to the new style, type, then revert to the old style without leaving that page. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: new icons for OOo 3.2.1
In news:hueafd$4t...@dough.gmane.org, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com typed: On 2010/06/05 1:09 PM RA Brown wrote: Rob Clement wrote: Are the new icons for the files created by OOo 3.2.1 simply confusing. For example I have some .doc files sent by fiends and the icon clearly shows the letters ODF on the icon. Should that not be OOo? Thanks Rob Hi Rob, All. No it is not a bug. In its great wisdom Oracle has decided that ODF is more important than OO.o. It has been argued over in the UX mailing list. Andy Actually it is a bug. A .doc file is not an ODF file and the ODF icon should not appear on a .doc file. On my Mac a .doc file has a plain white icon with a folded corner. It seems that the ODF cabal, in its great wisdom, overlooked the fact that MS Window is going to use its icon for .doc files when OOo is set as the default application for them. There desire to promote the ODF format (which I support) overwhelms the practical implications of their autocratic imposition of the ODF icons on the OOo community. You won't get far by turning to attack mode, Larry. If anything you'll turn away good help; we're (thry're) just a bunch of users here, like you, helping each other out and IMO attack modes are uncalled for. Your conspiracy theory of an 'autocratic imposition of' anything is uncalled for and in general will turn the community to not caring whether you get help or not. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: mid-page sytle switch? Writer
In news:4c0ab79e.8090...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: XP Pro and NOF 11 Is there a way to set a new Style other than Next Page. e.g. how do you switch styles in mid-page and then back again? I'm probably not well caffiene injected yet, but I can't seem to do it. TIA, Twayne` I think you may be able to accomplish the effect you need with a section break. What do you need to change? Sections are what I started with and may have to suffice; it just doesn't encompass everythng I want. These sections are normally only 5 to 10 lines long and then I return to the document's default formatting settings. There isn't any single thing I'm unable to do with Sections as they vary all over the place depending on what they are and where they came from and who did them up originally. That's why I was hoping to be able to somehow start-stop within the page based on something other than using a new page, where everything below the subject page would then be blank. Maybe I'll switch to scanning to get an image instead; more work but a more faithful and professional presentation appearance at least. Appreciate your taking the time to read, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: mid-page sytle switch? Writer
In news:4c0ab306.1020...@zepler.net, openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com openoffice.mbou...@spamgourmet.com typed: Twayne - twa...@twaynesdomain.com wrote: In news:4c0aae0b.9050...@gmail.com, Daniel Lewiselderdanle...@gmail.com typed: Twayne wrote: XP Pro and NOF 11 Is there a way to set a new Style other than Next Page. e.g. how do you switch styles in mid-page and then back again? I'm probably not well caffiene injected yet, but I can't seem to do it. TIA, Twayne` Insert Manual break. Select Page break Dan But ... that creates a new page; I want it to happen on the same page so I can switch to the new style, type, then revert to the old style without leaving that page. HTH, Twayne` You can change paragraph or character styles mid-page. I don't know for certain, but I wouldn't have thought you could change page styles mid-page, as by definition they apply to a whole page. What would you expect to happen if two page styles were applied to the same page? If you're trying to vary the left and right margins mid-page, try looking at Format Paragraph Indents, and perhaps create and use paragraph styles to set them. Mark. I know. That's why I was asking here. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: mid-page style switch? Writer
In news:321116.48122...@smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com typed: At 15:47 05/06/2010 -0400, Twayne Noname wrote: XP Pro and NOF 11 Is there a way to set a new Style other than Next Page. e.g. how do you switch styles in mid-page and then back again? I'm probably not well caffeine injected yet, but I can't seem to do it. Yes: you can change styles in mid-page - but it sounds as if you are trying to change *page* styles in the middle of a page. Is that so? That would make no sense, since a page style sets properties for a page, not part of one. There would be no meaning, for instance, to changing the paper size in mid-page, or the presence or contents of the header or footer. You probably need to use paragraph styles, character styles, frame styles, or whatever. You can change style in these cases without necessarily using Next Style. Or you may be able to achieve what you need using sections. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Aha! There it is: I wasn't asking the quiestion properly. Yes, I think you've identified what it is I'm trying to do and tripped the right brain-buttons! I can be pretty thick sometimesg! Thanks much, I'll come back if I still have issues. Just had my mind in the wrong rut. Cheers, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: new icons for OOo 3.2.1
In news:huedi6$db...@dough.gmane.org, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com typed: On 2010/06/05 2:17 PM Twayne wrote: In news:hueafd$4t...@dough.gmane.org, Larry Gusaaslarry.gus...@gmail.com typed: On 2010/06/05 1:09 PM RA Brown wrote: Rob Clement wrote: Are the new icons for the files created by OOo 3.2.1 simply confusing. For example I have some .doc files sent by fiends and the icon clearly shows the letters ODF on the icon. Should that not be OOo? Thanks Rob Hi Rob, All. No it is not a bug. In its great wisdom Oracle has decided that ODF is more important than OO.o. It has been argued over in the UX mailing list. Andy Actually it is a bug. A .doc file is not an ODF file and the ODF icon should not appear on a .doc file. On my Mac a .doc file has a plain white icon with a folded corner. It seems that the ODF cabal, in its great wisdom, overlooked the fact that MS Window is going to use its icon for .doc files when OOo is set as the default application for them. There desire to promote the ODF format (which I support) overwhelms the practical implications of their autocratic imposition of the ODF icons on the OOo community. You won't get far by turning to attack mode, Larry. If anything you'll turn away good help; we're (thry're) just a bunch of users here, like you, helping each other out and IMO attack modes are uncalled for. Your conspiracy theory of an 'autocratic imposition of' anything is uncalled for It is definitely called for. The introduction of the new icons did not receive proper community approval. Look through the UX mailing list for details. and in general will turn the community to not caring whether you get help or not. I am not looking for help. I am explaining why MS Window users are getting an inappropriate icon for .doc files. I also suggested the OP file a bug report about this defect. Why don't you read the whole thread before attacking someone. Why don't YOU simply avoid acting like a child? I've no more to say to you; you are unresonable. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
In news:4c0ab653.5040...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4c081aa8@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4c06da92.2070...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: ... My problem child is a 1.6M file -- 15 pages, each with a 5-column table containing a header row and 5 picture rows. Above each picture is a line of text. Apparently just reopening an existing file goes through repagination, for some reason. Yes, I sure hope this issue gets some attention. Do you think there's any point in opening an issue, or would it just be closed as a duplicate? (I'm sure there must be at least one out there already!) IMO it might make it if if were phrased properly and concisely detailed, not sure. The hardest part is probably the research to find anything similar is already submitted and accurate - it's over a year since I've had anything to do with the issues sytem. Perhaps if it were tied tothe repagination process as that's a new revelatioin, at last to me. I suspect pagination of causing other things too, like the jumping cursor and not going back to where it originally was, and a couple other things I can't think of right now. If it relocates the cursor, then it could relocate images, I'd assume. I also noticed that captions also follow the right image when they get relocated - maybe that's due to anchoring, I don't know right now; it just occurred to me. Probably the worst part of getting them to look at this is I've never found a pattern to be able to predict when or if it may or may not act up. Like your example; I'd have predicted iit would be OK based on the infor you provided but it's getting toward the border line of the file sizes I've experienced it on. Good luck, Twayne I'll probably give it a shot -- at least I have a relatively small file, and I just tried opening it five different times. Each time the first problem is on page 5, with the first picture row graphics moved down; sometimes the text moved down, too, other times it stayed in place. The other differences were less predictable, but I think this would give them something to go on, since there's repeatability (at least on my VistaHP/OOo3.1.1 system). If you've got a different configuration, would you be willing to give it a try and see what happens for you? Yes, I'd gladly give it a try. Interestingly, the graphics move up, not down here. I have XP Pro SP3, OO.o 3.2, but it was the same back on XP SP2 and OO.o 2.x and 1.x. It would be interesting if there were diffs between operating systems. BTW, what do you anchor the graphics to? My Word imports are all anchored to character, which I change to Paragraph when I see them, but it seems to make no difference to anything. I've been told part of it's due to my not anchoring images properly, but when it's imported from Word, I shouldn't have to go inspecting all the anchors and besides, it seems to make no difference. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda97559...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com typed: Twayne [mailto:twa...@twaynesdomain.com] noted: In news:4c0572d0.8090...@gmail.com, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com typed: On 6/1/2010 10:52 AM, Twayne wrote: I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I had some success in figuring out the how/why of OO.o 3.2.2 screwing up images in large documents SNIP descriptions. Of course, duplicate my claims on your own before entering a new issue too. HTH, Twayne` I wonder, how are you anchoring the images? To page? Paragraph? Character? Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Thanks Joe; I know what you're about here. In Word I have the images anchored to the paragraphs the images occur in. When OO.o opens the Word document, the anchors often move. Usually they've moved up and to the left. When I look in Writer at the anchors, they've oten move up a paragarph is have been changed to anchored to a letter. If one screws up, they almost all get screwed up throughout the document. Regardless of the anchoring situation OO.o requires, it should be able to determine them from the Word doc that it opens. I no longer recall how small, but a small document doesn't have issues with the images; I'd have to look it up from 2.x. And these are only 20 to 30 Meg files, so they aren't really all that large, even considering they'e zips. I can't tell with my meager tools, but it sounds like a buffer problem to me of some kind. It's a really annoying issue. I've read that documents created from scratch in OO.o don't have this problem but I don't know that for a fact. HTH, Twayne` With OOo 2.x (back in the day), I opened some Word docs that were 200-page to 400-page manuals. Some had tons of graphics. Some had tons of tables, or lots of lo-o-o-ong multi-page tables. Some had both graphic items (photos, drawings, screen-caps) and tables, along with all the text. Graphics would do as you describe, _especially_ if they were in table cells. Tables would set their own margins, usually out to the left of the page margin (nothing like they had in the Word source document). Tables that extended past a single page would often break strangely, entirely independently of dialog settings. It would not be unusual for a table to skip a page when it needed a break (leaving the page blank), no matter what I did with break settings for the table or the paragraph styles of the cell text (number of lines, number of rows, keep with next, etc.). If a table had (say) an illustration or photo in each of several cells (down a column - one column was the graphic, the column beside it was the descriptions or comments explaining each graphic item), then any of several operations would cause all (or some) of the illustrations/graphics to leave their cells and jump to another location, where they'd pile up. I took days, weeks fiddling. Sometimes I'd seem to have some success, but it wasn't consistent and I could never count on it. The most reliable was to go to the piled-up stack of pics, select one, copy it, go to the cell where I wanted it to live, click the empty Cell-content paragraph and paste. Mostly, they'd stay put, if I did that. Prior to that, I'd tried capturing each drawing/photo/dialog with SnagIt, saving to an external .png file, then Insert picture from file (to match the process that I use with new pics in new documents). That would seem to work, until the table wanted to re-flow, and then some-or-all the graphic items would run away from their cells and pile up in a corner again. Eventually, I published using Word, then went back to OOo (with my deadline safely behind me) and basically constructed the documents from scratch in OOo. That is, I'd bring in big mounds of text, via Notepad - not directly from a Word file - paste and format. That wasn't too bad for sections of paragraphs, but it was horrendously tedious for tables and for formatted API stuff in programmers manuals. A couple of years later, I tried a similar import of a big-ish Word document into OOo 3.1... same problems as before. Same solution. Build it over in OOo. Fortunately, I've pretty much run out of hefty old Word documents inherited from another writer - at least, until we buy another company and I inherit _their_ product docs... FWIW, aside from just a determination to use OOo instead of the MS product (kinda Quixotic given that I work mostly on Windows XP...), my motivation to migrate was that the Word documents had been a mish-mash of styles, spot-formatting, and other sins due to multiple authors and tinkerers. But at least in Word, pictures stayed where you put them. Must be something about the import / open-word-file-in-OOo process that breaks... since forever. All of that to say, you are not alone. Well that's good to know at leastg! For a long
[users] Re: Re: 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
In news:4c06da92.2070...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: Twayne [mailto:twa...@twaynesdomain.com] noted: In news:4c0572d0.8090...@gmail.com, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com typed: On 6/1/2010 10:52 AM, Twayne wrote: I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I had some success in figuring out the how/why of OO.o 3.2.2 screwing up images in large documents SNIP descriptions. Of course, duplicate my claims on your own before entering a new issue too. HTH, Twayne` I wonder, how are you anchoring the images? To page? Paragraph? Character? Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Thanks Joe; I know what you're about here. In Word I have the images anchored to the paragraphs the images occur in. When OO.o opens the Word document, the anchors often move. Usually they've moved up and to the left. When I look in Writer at the anchors, they've oten move up a paragarph is have been changed to anchored to a letter. If one screws up, they almost all get screwed up throughout the document. Regardless of the anchoring situation OO.o requires, it should be able to determine them from the Word doc that it opens. I no longer recall how small, but a small document doesn't have issues with the images; I'd have to look it up from 2.x. And these are only 20 to 30 Meg files, so they aren't really all that large, even considering they'e zips. I can't tell with my meager tools, but it sounds like a buffer problem to me of some kind. It's a really annoying issue. I've read that documents created from scratch in OO.o don't have this problem but I don't know that for a fact. HTH, Twayne` With OOo 2.x (back in the day), I opened some Word docs that were 200-page to 400-page manuals. Some had tons of graphics. Some had tons of tables, or lots of lo-o-o-ong multi-page tables. Some had both graphic items (photos, drawings, screen-caps) and tables, along with all the text. Graphics would do as you describe, _especially_ if they were in table cells. Tables would set their own margins, usually out to the left of the page margin (nothing like they had in the Word source document). Tables that extended past a single page would often break strangely, entirely independently of dialog settings. It would not be unusual for a table to skip a page when it needed a break (leaving the page blank), no matter what I did with break settings for the table or the paragraph styles of the cell text (number of lines, number of rows, keep with next, etc.). If a table had (say) an illustration or photo in each of several cells (down a column - one column was the graphic, the column beside it was the descriptions or comments explaining each graphic item), then any of several operations would cause all (or some) of the illustrations/graphics to leave their cells and jump to another location, where they'd pile up. I took days, weeks fiddling. Sometimes I'd seem to have some success, but it wasn't consistent and I could never count on it. The most reliable was to go to the piled-up stack of pics, select one, copy it, go to the cell where I wanted it to live, click the empty Cell-content paragraph and paste. Mostly, they'd stay put, if I did that. Prior to that, I'd tried capturing each drawing/photo/dialog with SnagIt, saving to an external .png file, then Insert picture from file (to match the process that I use with new pics in new documents). That would seem to work, until the table wanted to re-flow, and then some-or-all the graphic items would run away from their cells and pile up in a corner again. Eventually, I published using Word, then went back to OOo (with my deadline safely behind me) and basically constructed the documents from scratch in OOo. That is, I'd bring in big mounds of text, via Notepad - not directly from a Word file - paste and format. That wasn't too bad for sections of paragraphs, but it was horrendously tedious for tables and for formatted API stuff in programmers manuals. A couple of years later, I tried a similar import of a big-ish Word document into OOo 3.1... same problems as before. Same solution. Build it over in OOo. Fortunately, I've pretty much run out of hefty old Word documents inherited from another writer - at least, until we buy another company and I inherit _their_ product docs... FWIW, aside from just a determination to use OOo instead of the MS product (kinda Quixotic given that I work mostly on Windows XP...), my motivation to migrate was that the Word documents had been a mish-mash of styles, spot-formatting, and other sins due to multiple authors and tinkerers. But at least in Word, pictures stayed where you put them. Must be something about the import / open-word-file-in-OOo process that breaks... since forever. All of that to say, you are not alone. - K Definitely not alone -- and totally native OOo documents can't be exempted
[users] Re: 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
In news:4c0572d0.8090...@gmail.com, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com typed: On 6/1/2010 10:52 AM, Twayne wrote: I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I had some success in figuring out the how/why of OO.o 3.2.2 screwing up images in large documents SNIP descriptions. Of course, duplicate my claims on your own before entering a new issue too. HTH, Twayne` I wonder, how are you anchoring the images? To page? Paragraph? Character? Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Thanks Joe; I know what you're about here. In Word I have the images anchored to the paragraphs the images occur in. When OO.o opens the Word document, the anchors often move. Usually they've moved up and to the left. When I look in Writer at the anchors, they've oten move up a paragarph is have been changed to anchored to a letter. If one screws up, they almost all get screwed up throughout the document. Regardless of the anchoring situation OO.o requires, it should be able to determine them from the Word doc that it opens. I no longer recall how small, but a small document doesn't have issues with the images; I'd have to look it up from 2.x. And these are only 20 to 30 Meg files, so they aren't really all that large, even considering they'e zips. I can't tell with my meager tools, but it sounds like a buffer problem to me of some kind. It's a really annoying issue. I've read that documents created from scratch in OO.o don't have this problem but I don't know that for a fact. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: downloading openoffice
In news:391262.11317...@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com, dennis fitzgerald leo...@yahoo.com typed: I would like use the product,but when I downloaded the program. I found that it went too a temp file, and not the hard drive. How do I download the program to my hard drive? Thank You Dennis Fitzgerald E-mail: leo...@yahoo.com If you have windows and downloaded the right version of the program (e.g. for windows) it should have create a desktop icon folder with all the files necessary for intsallation in it. That's where you do the install from. If it\'s not on the desktop, look in the Programs folders. Once installed, then the Programs menu will have all of the components to choose from, which are all runnable applications. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] 3.2.2, large docs and image placement FYI/Q
I don't know if this will help anyone or not, but I had some success in figuring out the how/why of OO.o 3.2.2 screwing up images in large documents when you open a Word document for conversion, vetting and eventual saving as a PDF. XP Pro, SP3, all updates, OO.o 3.2.2 opening a Word 2002 .doc. If the file is fairly large, apparently over around 0k, images tend to move, leave tables, overlap, extend beyond margins, and oitherwise get locationally screwed up. No problem with PDF generation; it generates exactly what is in the PDF. I'm doing a fair amount of vetting changes, so repairing the image problems is turning out to be rather easy now or I'd use something different to create the PDFs. What happens is, table boundaries seem to be ignored, period. If an image ended up in a table it's because that's where it was moved to, not because it is in the proper cell. Tables have been relocated to be behind images but in front of text. Images have been sent to the background, behind text, which makes them seem unclickable and unmovable. You cannot select an image or get is handles to show. The trick, here at least, even though you cannot select the image visibly, is to click at some point where there is no text and then right-click and choose Bring to Front. This allows the image to be highlighted and you have the handles showing now. However, you cannot move it, or if you do move it, it will go anywhere but where you're trying to put it. On, and it's almost always a left-right movement of the images. If you need to move them vertically you'll have to temporarily move text around to make room for the image. With the image highlighted now, it'll show its handles, and at the top of the page in the menu, you'll see the white location of its position. If the image won't drag, and most will not, then adjust the top horizontal position indicator to bring the left right sides of the image where you want it to be. If you're trying toput it back into a table, put your cursor where you want the image to be vertically. Then drag the right-side ruler position to where you want the right side of the picture. Then drag the left-side ruler position to where you want the left side of the image to be. And you're done. Caveat: When you move the right/left postoins, there is no ratio control; the picture stretches and then looks right agan when you move the left one. If it was sized to fit the table, that aspect returns. But if not, then there is no guarantee the aspect ration is right; you have to eyeball it. This is a lot different than version 2.x was, and manageable to a degree, but it still smells to the high heavens as one of the things that have been ignored in OO.o since the days of version 1 when it was first reported. I have 30 chapters left to go, so if anyone knows a better way, I'd appreciate hearing about it. This book contains a lot of images, so it's quite an annoyance to keep cleaning them up when you started with perfect alignment. OO.o has gotten better, but no cigar; images still suck when you open a perfectly formatted .doc file. Not acceptable, IMO. Hope this helps someone; it's not bad if only a few mages move on you. In smaller documents there are no poblems. If you wish to create an issue for this on your own, feel free but I personally won't get involved in that tracking system ever again. And don't be surprised if it comes back as fixed or duplcate. It's not but it's simlar to what the problem used to be so is likely to be tossed instead of replacing the older, more inaccurate descriptions. Of course, duplicate my claims on your own before entering a new issue too. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Clippy
In news:4c000617.3080...@cfl.rr.com, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com typed: On 5/28/2010 11:43 AM, Mark Miller wrote: I don't suppose it would occur to you to even look in the help file? I did not know it was called help agent either but still managed to find the answer in under 60 seconds. It is much more advantageous to a person to teach him to fish rather than give him one fish. In case you didn't read it in the first post, here it is again; Not a criticism, just a fact of life. Check the help files first, Google second, THEN ask someone else to do it for me. Not to berate the OP at all, and wish he'd posted back, but one thing that a lot of people miss is that the logical process is, first you should check the application's Help and then Google (or use whatever your favorite search engine may be) for the answer, then a search posts on a likely newsgroup that may have the answer and then, still not finding an answer, ask the group. It's also good to mention same because sometimes you'll be close but no cigar in those searches and someone might have the exact search term/s you need and all the relevant information you could ever need. It also shows that you're not looking for a handout: You have done due diligence and tried to find the answer on your own rather than post questions on a newsgroup first. If everyone just haphazardly came to the groups for every question they had, it'd pretty much talk a lot of excellent participants into not bothering because they get tired of the same questions over and over when a quick search of the newsgroup even would expose the answer to the OP's query. If a question with a good subject line was asked and answered yesterday, last month or last week, you're expected to use that information before jumping into the newsgroups as a rule. This is a very gentle newsgroup and quite lenient and understanding with newbies but often groups are not like that. It's best to follow the morés of a culture and be appreciated by a long shot. IMO the worst sin is leaving out usefule information like OS, revision, program, revision, what has been tried and a short note on why it's a problem to you, which often results in fewer understandings of the question and irrelevant answers to it. I seldom forget, but occasionally I'll figure none of those sources will help me and go right to the group too: Big mistake; very often I'd have my answer without waiting for a response on a group if I'd just LOOKEDg!! But I'm better than I used to be! lol HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: how to eliminate page breaks in mail merge?
In news:b8a4d696-09de-4f1e-9466-e541c63f3...@sunde-wilde.com, James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com typed: On May 26, 2010, at 02:27 , Dave Stevens wrote: Hello All, I have a need to do a mail merge in which the merged text is a sequence of contiguous paragraphs on continuous pages, rather than a sequence of pages with 1 paragraph one each successive page. The only way I've discovered to do this is to take the 1 para/page text save it as doc.txt which removes the page breaks. Unfortunately it also removes all the formatting. Is there a simple way to force the text to be all on one sequence of pages in a single document? so what I'd like is: merged paragraph blank line merged paragraph blank line ... If what you're after is selecting paragraphs from a superset of paragraphs, you might just be looking at a master document. In that case you create the master document then link to the paragraphs you want in any particular case. You would need a separate MD for each collection of paragraphs, but then, you'd need a separate document for each mailmerge anyway. Since you're using mailmerge, I assume each paragraph is a separate document. They would have to be for this to work with a MD, I think, since one links to subdocuments, not paragraphs in another document. //James= I don't know about the most current version, but all preceding versions of Word are dangerous to use Master Documents with. Unless you avoid doing some things as simply as editing a subdoc from the MD, you can trash your subdocs. http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/general/whymasterdocscorrupt.htm http://www.techwr-l.com/articles/general/masterdocs http://word.mvps.org/faqs/general/RecoverMasterDocs.htm http://lists.dcomp.com/pipermail/word/2010-March/002192.html If you happen to have Open Office Writer, its Master Document feature works flawlessly albeit with fewer options. It does all the needed stuff though; page numbers, headers/footers, styles, etc.. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Win/Mac/Linux
Sorry; I must have misread it. HTH, Twayne` n news:4bfb6e21.80...@nb.net, John Kaufmann kaufm...@nb.net typed: In a message dated 2010.05.24 19:21 -0500, Twayne wrote: Please remember that if you do not have the same fonts on the different systems than the documnet may look different as OOo will find an appropriate font to replace it Do you know how that font matching works? No I do not. I tend to use Bookman Old Style on my main system and find that another font is substituted on systems where this font is not available. Sorry I can be of no further help on the font matching. Someone else may be able to contribute ... Many people forget that you can specify a font family so if, say, you like Bookman Old Style, you can still suggest other fonts that will look OK in your opinion as opposed to letting browsers decide it or worse, use a system font instead. After your preferred font, you simply include the most-general of the set of fonts you prefer that other machines are likely to have loaded. For example: ... P style=margin-bottom: 0px;SPAN style=font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Sans-serif;nbsp;/SPAN/P ... (1) I suspect many people on this list are familiar are familiar with HTML font handling, but that's a different matter from OO making an ODF (such as ODT) document with such font handling. (2) The reason I about how OO does its font matching (assuming it does so) is that I'm trying to understand it against a reference of how another word processor handled font matching. 20 years ago the WordPerfect Printer Definition Language (WPDL) included an important section on defining fonts - definitions that were used for classifying and matching fonts. IIRC, there were seven major binary attributes [of which HTML's serif/san-serif, to take the example you cite, would be only one] for classifying fonts, plus a number of non-binary metrics. It was a bit challenging to learn the system and apply it to a font - I believe every font I ever bought was improperly defined for WPDL, and had to be redefined to work properly - but when everything was properly set up it worked wonderfully. I'm hoping to find something similar for OO. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Win/Mac/Linux
In news:4bfad1ca.50...@robbev.com, Rob Clement r...@robbev.com typed: On 24/05/2010 11:52, John Kaufmann wrote: In a message dated 2010.05.23 13:28 -0500, Rob Clement wrote: Please remember that if you do not have the same fonts on the different systems than the documnet may look different as OOo will find an appropriate font to replace it Do you know how that font matching works? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org John No I do not. I tend to use Bookman Old Style on my main system and find that another font is substituted on systems where this font is not available. Sorry I can be of no further help on the font matching. Someone else may be able to contribute Thanks Rob I can add a small detail at least; probably not of much import: Many people forget that you can specify a font family so if, say, you like Bookman Old Style, you can still suggest other fonts that will look OK in your opinion as opposed to letting browsers decide it or worse, use a system font instead. After your preferred font, you simply include the most-general of the set of fonts you prefer that other machines are likely to have loaded. For example: ... P style=margin-bottom: 0px;SPAN style=font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Verdana,Sans-serif;nbsp;/SPAN/P ... I made up that code off the top of my head, but those fonts will be tried before it defaults to some unknown font on the unknown user's machine with his unknown OS and unknown font load. I don't -really- know how much good it does; I really only do it because it's customaryg. I tend to use Verdana in reality, because it's the oldest and most wide-spread font amongst it seems all operatiing systems. And for some reason, at the same time it's one of the most unknown font-facts that people know unless they've been around fonts for a few years. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: problem with calc
In news:31394.7336552248$1274729...@news.gmane.org, Sue Marino susan.mar...@tufts.edu typed: I have been having a problem with my calc (excel like) worksheets. When I click on something the whole screen turns gray and locks up. Sometimes it only lasts 30 seconds but many times it looks up permanently and I have to turn off the computer. Hmm, you can't even end the task or program with Task Manager? If so, I suspect something isn't playing nice with your OS. Perhaps an uninstall/reinstall of OO.o would help the most quiickly if you actually must kill power to get out of it; that can create myriad problems in and of itself, in fact, and done multiple things can cause a lot of damage you're not aware of until later on when you hit the right code. Save any files you created that are in the OO.o file structure because to uninstall/reinstall you really should also delete the folders it used so they can be created again from scratch. Is this something new that just started to happen and originally it worked OK? If it was a sudden appearance, what hardware/software have you installed, removed or tweaked at the time the problem happened? Did you remove or displace any malware at that time? If it never worked, then perhaps you want to put your backup of the OS onto DVD for safety before you crunch it too much. Also back up the problem OS date too. Lets you get back to either one that way. Are you certain you are free of malware? Firewall? Updated and ran AV? Spyware scanners? Etc.? Long shot, but it eliminates a lot of possibilities. Tried chkdsk /f? You really need to provide many more details. You never even mentioned your OS, version, Calc version, and so on and on. Details, man, details. HTH, Twayne` t doesn't seem to matter whether it is a small or large worksheet. Any suggestions? Sue Marino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Want to know about licensing issues..?
In news:aanlktim8gtwwn7kpjzgynx0j3hkmlr-fxeesj9anh...@mail.gmail.com, Karthikeyan Krishnamurthi karthick.k5...@gmail.com typed: Hi all i am newbie to the mailing list i want to know is there any licensing issues to provide openoffice as a cloud service. and also i want to know is it possible to provide openoffice from the local server to all the nodes connected with the lan.. [like google-docs which support throught the internet] will anyone please help me in this regard If you mean an actual cloud as in OO.o will live on it, I'm not aware of anything in the EULA that prevents it at least. Personally I'd rather have it on my own computer since it's free than on a cloud service. For those who are not aware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing is a good starting point. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Want to know about licensing issues..?
In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda973c2...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com typed: Twayne [mailto:twa...@twaynesdomain.com] replied: In news:aanlktim8gtwwn7kpjzgynx0j3hkmlr-fxeesj9anh...@mail.gmail.com, Karthikeyan Krishnamurthi karthick.k5...@gmail.com typed: Hi all i am newbie to the mailing list i want to know is there any licensing issues to provide openoffice as a cloud service. and also i want to know is it possible to provide openoffice from the local server to all the nodes connected with the lan.. [like google-docs which support throught the internet] will anyone please help me in this regard ... I can also see the clouding of OOo raising some interesting challenges for OOo experts in this list when they provide answers to queries. Funny, I was just thinking the same thing! HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Want to know about licensing issues..?
In news:4bf6cf88.6020...@the-martin-byrd.net, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net typed: ... Hi All, Just a little FIY, there are online providers already providing OpenOffice.org as an online service on a cloud. Andy Care to mention one or two of them? Might be interesting to check out for the cloud-curious. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Why and how the OpenDocument format can save you a lot of time!
In news:20100521205425.gm2...@nexaima.net, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net typed: Greetings, here is the introduction to a series of quick and dirty recipes I'll publish on my tips tricks website: http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/why-and-how-opendocument-format-can-save-you-lot-time If there's any specific trick you'd like to see explained in that series, just ask and I'll do my best to add it. HTH, Marco I know you're not new in any way to this group, but I do have to say, just once (I won't participate in flame wars or pick-apart responses of any kind), that it's not a very targeted set of data, I don't agree with all of it, especially some of the e-mail opinions, and that you might be mistaken in a couple of areas. I have to wonder what the purpose of the post really is? Many active spam fighters such as myself would consider it spam although the bulk portion of some definitions doesn't apply in the strictest sense. We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm afraid I can't see the relevancy or any use for the information on this avenue. I respectfully suggest that you use better marketing techniques, the best one I know of existing at the MAPS (abuse) web site. http://www.mail-abuse.com/ There are literally hundreds of good articles on internet marketing around and I might suggest you look into those also. Last I knew, this was not a forum for advertising one's web site capabilities; it's a self help group of participants made up of like users for the common benefit. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: minor issue with Spell Checker.?
In news:4be4a55e.2010...@wn.com.au, James Elliott james.elli...@wn.com.au typed: I use OOo 3.2 running under Windows XP, and use the English(Australia) spell checker. I have a Things To Do List which is a table inserted into a Writer document. When a word is underlined in red, but is spelled correctly, I add to Dictionary. One would expect that if the Spell Checker encountered that word again, in a subsequent session (i.e. after OOo restart) then it would not underline it as the word has been add to Dictionary, but sometimes it does? Why is this so? The other confusing thing is that when the word is underlined (in error) and one right clicks on it to see what the suggested replacement words might be, often the underlined word is there in the replacement list and when you click on the replacement word thee is no change to the spelling in your table, as both misspelled word and replacement word are the same, but the squiggly red underline goes away. Why is this happening? Is this a bug? Many thanks for reading this and I hope you can shed some light on it for me. kind regards, James Don't know if this is it or not, but a rev or two back I noticed what I thought was the case you have. It turned out the difference was actually an added or deleted space. Maybe that's what you're encountering? HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Cannot install OO 3.2
In news:4be3250e.6030...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: John Wilson wrote: I have Windows 7. I like OO and want to use it. The download of the software seems to go well, but cannot install. Or if I can complete the install, after a day or two, the program cannot be opened. So...I uninstall and try to reinstall, and now cannot even do that. Cannot access any OO documents. When trying to re-install, I get this message...something like Exit OO 3.2 and OO 3.2 Quickstarter before continuing, and the install stops. At the time this message appears, there is nothing for OO running... Does anyone have any idea what this means--I am not a computer person so please speak in plain language... Regards, John Wilson Hi, John. Glad you like OOo, and I'm sorry you're having a problem. Sometimes a stray process will be running that is left over from something that glitched; this would interfere with either starting or uninstalling/reinstalling. If that's happening, you can bring up the Task Manager and look for processes named soffice.bin. End those (the associated soffice.exe processes will stop, too) and you should be able to start OOo OK, and probably you won't need to do anything more severe. (Or just restart, that should do it, too.) Good luck, and let us know if you still have a problem. Umm, if quickstarter was being loaded at boot time, it would simply come right back after a reboot, right? So you don't want to restart; Do an initial restart, kill the process/es, and go right to the installation. That should do it. Unless it's been turned off, the quickstarter shows in the Sy Or, remove the old OO.o, restart, and install the new one. More work, but it should work. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Cannot install OO 3.2
In news:4be45ca4.7030...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: Twayne wrote: In news:4be3250e.6030...@onr.com, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com typed: John Wilson wrote: I have Windows 7. I like OO and want to use it. The download of the software seems to go well, but cannot install. Or if I can complete the install, after a day or two, the program cannot be opened. So...I uninstall and try to reinstall, and now cannot even do that. Cannot access any OO documents. When trying to re-install, I get this message...something like Exit OO 3.2 and OO 3.2 Quickstarter before continuing, and the install stops. At the time this message appears, there is nothing for OO running... Does anyone have any idea what this means--I am not a computer person so please speak in plain language... Regards, John Wilson Hi, John. Glad you like OOo, and I'm sorry you're having a problem. Sometimes a stray process will be running that is left over from something that glitched; this would interfere with either starting or uninstalling/reinstalling. If that's happening, you can bring up the Task Manager and look for processes named soffice.bin. End those (the associated soffice.exe processes will stop, too) and you should be able to start OOo OK, and probably you won't need to do anything more severe. (Or just restart, that should do it, too.) Good luck, and let us know if you still have a problem. Umm, if quickstarter was being loaded at boot time, it would simply come right back after a reboot, right? So you don't want to restart; Do an initial restart, kill the process/es, and go right to the installation. That should do it. Unless it's been turned off, the quickstarter shows in the Sy Or, remove the old OO.o, restart, and install the new one. More work, but it should work. HTH, Twayne` Sorry, didn't think about Quickstarter -- I've taken it out of my Startup menu, it doesn't seem helpful at all to me, and it's too likely to interfere with things. Yes, it would mess up the restart alternative above if there is actually an uninstall/reinstall required, but there probably isn't. The first thing I'd try after killing the processes would be attempting to open an OOo document. Agreed. Funny how things vary; I kept it because I found out the programs initialize faster with it running. Once initialized though it doesn't seem to be of any value. Here, anywayg. It is a small amount of convenience, but I could easily live without it. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: I know!
In news:adc1c969-89ee-4ed8-a6c7-fce95690a...@sunde-wilde.com, James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com typed: I know, I said in the first line to add Mary's email address. And then I forgot! Doh! Sorry for the necessary double post. Have a good laugh. :( //J= Huh? What's this about? Did you REALLY mean for this to be a new post and not a Reply to some thread? It makes no sense. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Found on SourceForge
I don't know if this is of any use to OO.o folk, but thought I'd paste it here anyway. It's certainly meaner and leaner than Outlook it and might be a better solution to calendering, etc.. Nothing to do with the program or SF; just thought i'd pass it along. Sorry if you consider it spam; just trying to help, nothing more. 24. DavMail POP/IMAP/SMTP/Caldav to Exchange https://sourceforge.net/projects/davmail Ever wanted to get rid of Outlook? DavMail is a POP/IMAP/SMTP/Caldav/LDAP gateway allowing users to use any mail/calendar client with Exchange, even from the internet through Outlook Web Access on any platform, tested on Mac OS X, Linux and Windows HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] OT Re: Re: How the competition is doing.
In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda97079...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com typed: TWAYNE simply could not resist saying: -Original Message- From: Twayne [mailto:twa...@twaynesdomain.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:16 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] Re: How the competition is doing. In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda97079...@bel1exch02.amer. sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com typed: ... The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. Since I didn't receive this in error then, it's interesting that ANY company/corporate would allow employees to use company resources for participating on publicly accessible newsgroups such as this group is. I must have received this in error because I have no use for it and didn't ask for it plus had no need to know anything in it. So here's you notification. I cannot delete it, only you can have any even miniscule chance of deleting it, and I have copied it to my hard drive in order to read it and discover this order from you. And I'm afraid it's been disclosed to the general public at large by being on a newsgroup; that's your fault, not mine! I sure hope everyone reading this notifies you, because its been pretty widely copied to hard drives and been disclosed before it was even possible to read your warning. The only remedy I can think of for you would be to: -- Drop trou -- Scratch butt fiercely with fingernails -- Sit on salt cow lick -- Rub butt fiercely back and forth, side to side and front to back -- Send another confidential statement out And I, in turn, should have... but didn't... resisted saying: LOL, love the wording of your intro up top there (couldn't resist...); good one. Based on the date/time I'd imagine this response was also done from work. There's no animosity or ill feelings at this end, just amusement at the situation; which you aren't the first to do anyway. I have a little time on my hands so I thought I'd respond to this for you. It's probably the last you'll hear from me though because we're now way off topic. Hey, T, C'mon down. Apparently the air up where you live is so very, very thin that you can't recognize that the offending text is: Did I say the text was offending? I'm not offended, just amused. I also have to wonder how long it's been since you read the conditions and terms of computer use at your company, even if you are the owner. a) appended automatically by our corporate servers AFTER I hit Send and is therefore TOTALLY, COMPETELY, ENTIRELY, THOROUGHLY out of my control, and Well, let's see what that tells us: The post was done at work, on work computer/s, which I suspect might be frowned upon by your IT. Do you write the posts on company time too, or do you just waste your break times surfing the 'net and groups? Apparently IT have things locked down enough that you can't go to a free mail site and send undilluted e-mails or you'd use those now and then. But you don't; you do these on company time. And if you're doing them on your own break time, you're making a mistake too because break times are rewind times; if you must continue to do something during a break, then it should be company business, not what would be considered YOUR personal business. In the aggregate, that brands you, IMO, as a thief. If not in company time, then in the improper use of company equipment and intentional exposure of e-mail Headers the company would not want spread to many unknowns who may well have spam or worse uses for the contained information. Some think the structure and setup of the gmane system prevents data scraping, etc., but that's not 100% true and in most cases it's trivial to get a spider in there to scrape information. b) ugly and ungrammatical enough to have been written by oxygen-starved lawyers (oh... izzat it? are you training to be a high-altitude lawyer?) and not by somebody competent with English. That is, it's not written by a techwriter. It's not written by anyone competent, that's for sure. And not lawyers either. I suspect it wasn't even written by an educated person and meets a very low grade-level on the Fleischman/Kincaid (SP?) scales. The fact you claim it's written by a company actually makes me wonder about whether there actually even is a literal company there, or just someone's playtoy. Such notices either make criminals out of the readers of any such message, OR makes the company look pretty stupid or, minimally, says a lot of negative about the actual sender. Otherwise, the notice is judged
[users] Re: How the competition is doing.
In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda97079...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin kevin.mclauch...@safenet-inc.com typed: ... The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. I must have received this in error because I have no use for it and didn't ask for it plus had no need to know anything in it. So here's you notification. I cannot delete it, only you can have any even miniscule chance of deleting it, and I have copied it to my hard drive in order to read it and discover this order from you. And I'm afraid it's been disclosed to the general public at large by being on a newsgroup; that's your fault, not mine! I sure hope everyone reading this notifies you, because its been pretty widely copied to hard drives and been disclosed before it was even possible to read your warning. The only remedy I can think of for you would be to: -- Drop trou -- Scratch butt fiercely with fingernails -- Sit on salt cow lick -- Rub butt fiercely back and forth, side to side and front to back -- Send another confidential statement out - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Saving files
In news:4bd30416.8070...@the-martin-byrd.net, RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net typed: Manuel Barros wrote: Hello everybody. Dear user helpers, let's suppose that I use separate main files for odt and ods works and that I have been working on an xxx.ods file and then I have closed OOo application. If then I need to work on an xxx.odt file, when trying to open it, the files that will appear to be chosen will not be odt files but ods files, because ods was the type of file I have been working previously. Although I have separate files where I keep ods files and odt files, I think this happens because this is the philosophy of OOo itself, as I am not able to tell OOo writer to look for the odt main file when opening writer application. I think this is the problem that happens often with people who comes from Microsoft, because there you can inform Word program where to look for Word files. I know a little of OOo, and if someone tells me I am wrong and that there is a way to solve this matter, I would became a more happy user of OOo. Regards. Manuel Barros Hi Manuel, I am not quite sure what you asking here. OpenOffice.org as well as Word looks in the Documents folder for files. If your using a different location for different types of documents the you will have to 'browse for them each time. Under Tools Options Paths you can set the base directory that OpenOffice.org will start in when looking for documents to open. The easiest way I have found to open documents is go to the location and open it from there, as I have documents scattered across several folders on several disk. Hope this helps some. ps. Please start your own thread and not hijack someone else's. Andy Right: This needs to be a brand new thread! In any case, I think he's referring to opening Writer and then opening, say, an .ots file. It'll open in Calc instead of in Writer since it's a calc file, where Word would attempt to open an Excel file in Word. Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Uninstall
In news:901248.8569...@web82203.mail.mud.yahoo.com, Barb Griffith griffith7...@sbcglobal.net typed: I want to uninstall OpenOffice. But my computer will not do it. What can I do? Please help! Thank you, Barbara What have you tried so far? Add or Remove should do it AFAIK. HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Saving files
In news:cadf357f08ab49adb154be0a29ae6...@your01352a0c79, george curran gcur...@uwclub.net typed: Sir, I have just converted my original Microsoft x-cel and word files to your open office system. Whilst the transfer was successful I note I can only access the files by checking on all files Can you advise in which format I can save the original x-cel and word docs so that I do not have to open everything to find a specific file. THANKS FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE G A CURRAN What format are they saving in now? HTH, Twayne` - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] OT Re: Re: Water Marks
In news:4bbd0a91.3090...@sfcn.org, Le Couey leco...@sfcn.org typed: ... --Post a wise message and your post will live forever on the 'net. -- Not So Anonymous What a bunch of malarky about nothing useful and is so off topic. Intolerance is alive and well in this group of threaders. It's a sort of racism, actually and totally uncalled for. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Water Marks
In news:004401cad510$51716760$f45436...@com, Manuel Barros cruzbar...@gmail.com typed: Andy, please find attached the image I want to convert to water mark. Thanks regards. Manuel Lisbon, Portugal All that really needs to be done, if I now understand this, is to add transparency to the image. That means it has to be a .gif or .png. Transparency can set it to be anything from invisible to opaque or anywhere in between so it doesn't block any text, etc. also on the page. I'd guess about 30% transparence would be a good place to start. It's best, IMO, to set up the transparency in a separate image editor like PSP or any that can handle transparency. HTH, Twayne` -Mensagem original- De: RA Brown [mailto:rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net] Enviada: segunda-feira, 5 de Abril de 2010 20:51 Para: users@openoffice.org Assunto: Re: [users] Water Marks Manuel Barros wrote: Many thanks for your answer, John. Please let me explain a little more: I Have a color image full page and I want to revert it on Water mark. Nothing happens when I follow your suggestion. May be I am not doing it right... Regards Manuel Lisbon, Portugal Manual, I do not understand. You say nothing happens. Do you mean the image is not imported? Send direct to me a copy of the image and I will send back a Writer document with it embedded. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Nenhum vmrus encontrado nessa mensagem recebida. Verificado por AVG - www.avgbrasil.com.br Versco: 9.0.800 / Banco de dados de vmrus: 271.1.1/2792 - Data de Langamento: 04/05/10 07:32:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
