[users] writer
Hello ! How to open word document with one too large table on the many pages ? I use LibreOffice 3.4.4. With Microsoft Office 2003 I have not any trouble but I want migrate to Libre Thanks ! -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer: freehand rotation of arrows?
I need to add some arrows to a Writer document. I found how to rotate them by specifying an angle, but I could not find a freehand rotation tool. Does this exist? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer: visual link (arrow) that moves with the text
Is there a way to specify a start-point and an end-point for an arrow in Writer? In a particular document some text refers to other text, and I would like to establish a visual link of sorts. An arrow would be perfect, so long as it would move to start and stop at the designated places as text is added and formated within the document. If anybody has an idea, I am up for creative experimentation. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer: Changing colour of paragraph separator line
Hi all. In Writer one can add a paragraph separator by putting for dashes on a line then pressing Enter. However, this line is always black, no matter the colour of the text font. How does one change the colour of this line? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer can't do arithmetic?
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64. I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the first line as an example: A B C D E F AGCO200 43.20 41.25 0.000.00 The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is =sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00. All columns except A are set to general number format. I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct answers. Any help is welcome. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer can't do arithmetic?
OOo 3.3.0 downloaded from Openoffice.org on Fedora 14, x86_64. I have a simple table in Writer where I want to do some elementary math. The table lists stocks, where the second column (B) is the number of shares, the third column (C) is the basis (price paid), the fourth column (D) is the current price. In the fifth column (E) I want a formula that calculates D minus C times B, that is, to show how much gain or loss there has been. In the last column (F) I want to calculate the total value based on current price, that is, B times C. Here is the first line as an example: A B C D E F AGCO200 43.20 41.25 0.000.00 The formula that I used in E is =sum(D1-C1)*B1. The formula does not generate any error messages, but as you can see, it thinks the answer is 0.00, where it should be -390.00. The formula that I used for F is =sum(B1*D1), but it also displays 0.00 where it should be 8,250.00. All columns except A are set to general number format. I can't figure out why the formulas do not calculate the correct answers. Any help is welcome. -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer: Change file to read-only mode
How does one change a Writer instance to read-only mode? This mode is much better suited to reading documents. I have found that one can set a flag in File - Properties - Security to have to document open in read only the next time it is opened, but I would like to save a hassle and change directly to read-only mode. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- - To unsubscribe send email to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[users] Writer: Gradient on Line/Rectangle
Time to spruce up the resume! I want to add to my resume a horizontal line with a horizontal gradient. I found two options, neither of the quite work: 1) Use a Line from the Drawing Toolbar. 2) Use a Rectangle from the Drawing Toolbar. The problem with using a Line is that it does not respond to the gradient setting. I tried setting the gradient in these places: Context Menu - Area - Area - Gradient Context Menu - Area - Transparency - Gradient Context Menu - Area - Gradients None of these setting successfully got the line to grade at all. So how can a line fade as a gradient? Next, I tried using a rectangle. I could get it to grade, but it stubbornly keeps a black border. How can I get rid of this border? I tried these settings: Context Menu - Area - Transparency - Border - 0% Context Menu - Area - Gradients - Border - 0% Neither worked. So how can the border be removed from a rectangle? I am using LibreOffice 3.3 on Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE 4.6. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Gradient on Line/Rectangle
At 21:05 06/02/2011 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Time to spruce up the resume! I want to add to my resume a horizontal line with a horizontal gradient. I found two options, neither of the quite work: 2) Use a Rectangle from the Drawing Toolbar. Next, I tried using a rectangle. I could get it to grade, but it stubbornly keeps a black border. How can I get rid of this border? I tried these settings: Context Menu - Area - Transparency - Border - 0% Context Menu - Area - Gradients - Border - 0% Neither worked. So how can the border be removed from a rectangle? Set Format | Object | Line... | Line | Line properties | Style (or right-click | Line... | Line | Line properties | Style) to Invisible. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Gradient on Line/Rectangle
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 21:30, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: Set Format | Object | Line... | Line | Line properties | Style (or right-click | Line... | Line | Line properties | Style) to Invisible. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Yes, Brian, thanks! Have a great week! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer not saving versions on close
In two writer documents I have the option for saving a version on close, however, it seems that the application is not saving new versions on close. I can find no mention of other people having problems with this online, nor have I found a bug report. This is not an everyday feature though, so it could be that it simply was not noticed until now. Can someone confirm/deny that this feature works for them? I'm currently on Open Office 3.2 (probably go-oo) as provided by Kubuntu 10.10. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer not saving versions on close
On 10/01/11 13:24, Dotan Cohen wrote: In two writer documents I have the option for saving a version on close, however, it seems that the application is not saving new versions on close. I can find no mention of other people having problems with this online, nor have I found a bug report. This is not an everyday feature though, so it could be that it simply was not noticed until now. Can someone confirm/deny that this feature works for them? I'm currently on Open Office 3.2 (probably go-oo) as provided by Kubuntu 10.10. Thanks! Did you actually /close/ the file, or just save it? A quick experiment (ubuntu/3.2.0) suggests versions are saved when the file is actually closed (in my case, by exiting OOo and selecting to save changes). A plain 'save' followed by further editing didn't create a new version - but that is, after all, what is stated on the option's 'tin' so to speak. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer not saving versions on close
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:49, Mike Scott m...@scottsonline.org.uk wrote: Did you actually /close/ the file, or just save it? Yes. The last version is from April 2010, but I have opened and edited the file at least three or four times since. Even today I edited the file, and no new version was saved. A quick experiment (ubuntu/3.2.0) suggests versions are saved when the file is actually closed (in my case, by exiting OOo and selecting to save changes). A plain 'save' followed by further editing didn't create a new version - but that is, after all, what is stated on the option's 'tin' so to speak. Thanks for checking. I'll try to play around some more to make sure that the problem isn't the meatsack at the keyboard (me, in this case). -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer problem
Hi. Guys, I have a problem with printing envelopes. I have read how to do it but it does not want to print envelopes from the address on a letter i have typed. I don't need a mail merge type address list as most of my letters are once only. In MS Word you just highlight the address on your letter and go into envelope printing and the address appears automatically. Can I do this and if not what a great update it would make as many people have this need. I hope it is there and I just can't find it. Regards, RSBT - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer problem
On 11/14/10 14:37, rsbtho...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hi. Guys, I have a problem with printing envelopes. I have read how to do it but it does not want to print envelopes from the address on a letter i have typed. I don't need a mail merge type address list as most of my letters are once only. In MS Word you just highlight the address on your letter and go into envelope printing and the address appears automatically. Can I do this and if not what a great update it would make as many people have this need. I hope it is there and I just can't find it. Regards, RSBT In the New / Templates and Documents , there are envelope templates. Then you can got to Format / Page and then choose an envelope style you want to use. I know that Word has the envelope labels are automated, but with automation you get limitation on how it looks. I never liked MSO's version of this process. When I use to need to print envelopes, I made a template from the Page formatting options with everything created except the address to where it is going. All I have to do is cut/paste the address in the letter and then paste it to the envelope template, and print it. Mail-merge options fail me for printing envelopes, so I use #10 windowed versions. For me, the best option still it making a template of the standard #10 envelope and then add the addressed from the letters when needed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer problem
rsbtho...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Hi. Guys, I have a problem with printing envelopes. I have read how to do it but it does not want to print envelopes from the address on a letter i have typed. I don't need a mail merge type address list as most of my letters are once only. In MS Word you just highlight the address on your letter and go into envelope printing and the address appears automatically. Can I do this and if not what a great update it would make as many people have this need. I hope it is there and I just can't find it. Regards, RSBT ** From another member of this mailing list: In the New / Templates and Documents , there are envelope templates. Then you can got to Format / Page and then choose an envelope style you want to use. I know that Word has the envelope labels are automated, but with automation you get limitation on how it looks. I never liked MSO's version of this process. When I use to need to print envelopes, I made a template from the Page formatting options with everything created except the address to where it is going. All I have to do is cut/paste the address in the letter and then paste it to the envelope template, and print it. Mail-merge options fail me for printing envelopes, so I use #10 windowed versions. For me, the best option still it making a template of the standard #10 envelope and then add the addressed from the letters when needed. * If you have other questions or comments, please send them to the same email address as you sent this one: us...@openopenoffice.org. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size
Hi, I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with Acrobat Reader for example). Anyone can help ? Regards, Yann
Re: [users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size
Il 02/11/2010 13:26, Yann Barraud ha scritto: Hi, I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with Acrobat Reader for example). Anyone can help ? Regards, Yann You can set the font type and size of an input text field in Writer, and those settings will be used by the PDF reader. AFAICS, though, the user cannot change the textfield font in any way. I looked for that function in evince (ubuntu) and adobe reader 9. HTH -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size
Hi, I heard from a friend (though I did not check) that this is possible with Adobe Acrobat generated forms... Regard, Yann On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Marcello Romani mrom...@ottotecnica.comwrote: Il 02/11/2010 13:26, Yann Barraud ha scritto: Hi, I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with Acrobat Reader for example). Anyone can help ? Regards, Yann You can set the font type and size of an input text field in Writer, and those settings will be used by the PDF reader. AFAICS, though, the user cannot change the textfield font in any way. I looked for that function in evince (ubuntu) and adobe reader 9. HTH -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:26:12 +0100 Yann Barraud yann.barr...@gmail.com dijo: I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with Acrobat Reader for example). You should be able to do this, but it doesn't work due to a bug that has been in OOo for years and remains unfixed. Open a new, blank Writer document. From View Toolbars select Form Design and Form Controls. Using the Controls toolbar place some controls on the document that would contain text, e.g., a list box, a text box, etc. Right click on the control and select Control. This will bring up a dialog box where you can specify the properties for the control, including the font. When finished, export your form to a PDF, making sure that you check the box create PDF form. (The box is unchecked by default.) Now open your form in Adobe Reader. You will discover that your controls work, but the font will be Helvetica or some sans-serif face, rather than the font you specified in the control properties. This bug was reported and confirmed years ago, but no one has ever done anything about it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer form / PDF Export / TextFields font size
Ok, this would allow me to choose the font for my users. What I wanted to do is to let thme choose the font while filling the PDF form... But I think this is a functionality beyond the one you mentioned. Thanks ! Regards, Yann Barraud On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:26:12 +0100 Yann Barraud yann.barr...@gmail.com dijo: I just want to make the font size modifiable in my OOo generated PDF forms, but just don't know how to do this (when being filled with Acrobat Reader for example). You should be able to do this, but it doesn't work due to a bug that has been in OOo for years and remains unfixed. Open a new, blank Writer document. From View Toolbars select Form Design and Form Controls. Using the Controls toolbar place some controls on the document that would contain text, e.g., a list box, a text box, etc. Right click on the control and select Control. This will bring up a dialog box where you can specify the properties for the control, including the font. When finished, export your form to a PDF, making sure that you check the box create PDF form. (The box is unchecked by default.) Now open your form in Adobe Reader. You will discover that your controls work, but the font will be Helvetica or some sans-serif face, rather than the font you specified in the control properties. This bug was reported and confirmed years ago, but no one has ever done anything about it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer Question 2
2010/9/8 miriam raskin msr...@sbcglobal.net: One more question. Every time I save a document, Stuffit Expander jumps out and wants me to specify a folder into which to expand something or other (which I neither want nor need, IMHO). What have I done to trigger this? or what can I do to put a stop to it? MSR Using OOO3.2.1. with Mac OS 10.5.8 on iBook G4 PowerPC Processor Speed: 1.33 GHz Memory: 1.25 GB Bus Speed: 133 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.8.7f1 Hello Miriam, OpenOffice.org files are in fact kind of archive files. If you rename them from.odt (etc.) to .zip, a program like StuffIt Expander can show you there are several files gathered in an .odt. On the other hand, StuffIt shouldn't be so eager to break open .odt files. I did take a look at StuffIt Expander preferences, but .odt isn't in the list. What else could trigger its behaviour? File attribution? If you control- or right-click on a OOo-file and look at the File Info (also apple-I), what does it say under 'Open with'? Hope this helps, -- Guy using dutch OOo 3.2 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard and brazilian OOo 3.2 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer Question 2
One more question. Every time I save a document, Stuffit Expander jumps out and wants me to specify a folder into which to expand something or other (which I neither want nor need, IMHO). What have I done to trigger this? or what can I do to put a stop to it? MSR Using OOO3.2.1. with Mac OS 10.5.8 on iBook G4 PowerPC Processor Speed: 1.33 GHz Memory: 1.25 GB Bus Speed:133 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.8.7f1
Re: [users] Writer Question
Thanks ever so much. I would have bet all my assets that this option was checked. it's a good thing I don't bet. MSR On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:29 PM, RA Brown wrote: ** Please reply *only* to the list at users@openoffice.org ** miriam raskin wrote: Friends, I have lost access to what OOO Writer calls the Apply style I box. It is a rectangle that displays the current paragraph styles, similar in appearance to the boxes that show current font and font size in a menu bar. The Help section, as usual in my experience, describes what this function does but does nothing to help me access it when it disappears. I have customized my toolbars but have not found the option I am seeking.I do have the style box for the page format but I want the one that shows the style of the paragraphed text. Does anyone understand what I am asking? and know the answer? TIA MSRaskin Using OOO 3.2.1 with Mac OS 10.5.8 on iBook G4 PowerPC Try right clicking on the Format Toolbar, select Customize. In the pop-up make sure that the Apply Style box is checked. HTH -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
[users] Writer Question
Friends, I have lost access to what OOO Writer calls the Apply style I box. It is a rectangle that displays the current paragraph styles, similar in appearance to the boxes that show current font and font size in a menu bar. The Help section, as usual in my experience, describes what this function does but does nothing to help me access it when it disappears. I have customized my toolbars but have not found the option I am seeking.I do have the style box for the page format but I want the one that shows the style of the paragraphed text. Does anyone understand what I am asking? and know the answer? TIA MSRaskin Using OOO 3.2.1 with Mac OS 10.5.8 on iBook G4 PowerPC
Re: [users] Writer Question
** Please reply *only* to the list at users@openoffice.org ** miriam raskin wrote: Friends, I have lost access to what OOO Writer calls the Apply style I box. It is a rectangle that displays the current paragraph styles, similar in appearance to the boxes that show current font and font size in a menu bar. The Help section, as usual in my experience, describes what this function does but does nothing to help me access it when it disappears. I have customized my toolbars but have not found the option I am seeking.I do have the style box for the page format but I want the one that shows the style of the paragraphed text. Does anyone understand what I am asking? and know the answer? TIA MSRaskin Using OOO 3.2.1 with Mac OS 10.5.8 on iBook G4 PowerPC Try right clicking on the Format Toolbar, select Customize. In the pop-up make sure that the Apply Style box is checked. HTH -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer word boundaries on numerical characters in Hebrew
On 2 July 2010 03:52, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 02:16 02/07/2010 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: I have discovered that the term ab2cd will has two word boundaries: before the a and after the d, however the Hebrew equivalent × ×‘2גד has four word boundaries: at the beginning and end as expected, and also around the numeral. Is there a workaround for defining such a term as not to break in the middle? I know about non-breaking spaces, but is there a non-breaking non-printed character? Yes: it's the Word Joiner - Unicode 2060. Unicode FEFF - the Zero Width No-Break Space - also appears to work, but its use in this way is said to be deprecated. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Hey, that worked, thanks! For archive diggers, here is the page for the character: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2060/index.htm And here is one between the dashes: -- Thanks, Brian! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer word boundaries on numerical characters in Hebrew
I have discovered that the term ab2cd will has two word boundaries: before the a and after the d, however the Hebrew equivalent אב2גד has four word boundaries: at the beginning and end as expected, and also around the numeral. Is there a workaround for defining such a term as not to break in the middle? I know about non-breaking spaces, but is there a non-breaking non-printed character? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer word boundaries on numerical characters in Hebrew
At 02:16 02/07/2010 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: I have discovered that the term ab2cd will has two word boundaries: before the a and after the d, however the Hebrew equivalent ××2×× has four word boundaries: at the beginning and end as expected, and also around the numeral. Is there a workaround for defining such a term as not to break in the middle? I know about non-breaking spaces, but is there a non-breaking non-printed character? Yes: it's the Word Joiner - Unicode 2060. Unicode FEFF - the Zero Width No-Break Space - also appears to work, but its use in this way is said to be deprecated. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
On 26 June 2010 02:35, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: Thanks. Actually, the requirement is that the page be sent as a Word document (.doc format) and that the references be hand-typed to avoid the character change. This is an academic requirement, there is no room to argue. Yes, I know that forcing students to turn in assignments as Word is bad but that is the assignment. It is a doctorate course and nobody is going to forfeit their doctorate to protest the Word requirement. If transferring material in this way does create problems in the way that you fear, then I suppose this is an excellent example of why such a requirement is unwise. For the avoidance of doubt, you and your user have my sympathies! Brian Barker Yes, I know Brian! That is the case with a tenured professor, quite typical actually. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/25/2010 08:53 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Because I thought that might appear differently on machines that are differently configured. I'm happy to be wrong, though. I will have to The point of using styles is that the presentation markup is displayed the same, regardless of the platform that is used. However, I see that you are requried to use MS Word. As such, the only solution that has a chance of working, is to do _everything_ manually. Even then, expect that the incompatibiltiy of MSO2k7 with MSO2k7 will destroy the document's integrity. You have my sympathies for working with an organizations whose management aspires to be able to qualify for admission into kindergarten in the next two or three decades. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMJhf2AAoJEAS/cyz7/v3cD9AH/jcxVtRJZ52yMvCouR2bNJMT 4hlkptiLKw4oE51bt88xgcft+YIWGoel/3FNiq9Pf3ENM4zg9ibWRX5tRUCuV1pq nXBRdE4y6g6JmoGeCbR9zSq13UxGM9N6sxT8UWnL55XxWo05HpiCJj1C1ZBBVjzv PTf9fK9K8bMRlShL91VJsHtJN5tBy0pniMOb60/0k2eGNTzHFC158KkCOc7ryy0q cu5BckE77eOcmgVGxtK/zKVF0KgzV476JEzy0oesbd7f5HqVcG7ZZdUAPWvmxYN1 myhhF6ppi/8L8VlxdxugbgX4pcwNeANbRdva9VQbqr2YwL7lLyRYY0+uLzmeEDg= =pJcO -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
On 26 June 2010 18:08, jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com wrote: Because I thought that might appear differently on machines that are differently configured. I'm happy to be wrong, though. I will have to The point of using styles is that the presentation markup is displayed the same, regardless of the platform that is used. I see, thanks. I need to find an MSO installation (I have only Linux) that I can play with the locale settings on. I'll ask around the university. I cannot find anyone who has done this experiment online, so I will publish the results. However, I see that you are requried to use MS Word. As such, the only solution that has a chance of working, is to do _everything_ manually. Even then, expect that the incompatibiltiy of MSO2k7 with MSO2k7 will destroy the document's integrity. You have my sympathies for working with an organizations whose management aspires to be able to qualify for admission into kindergarten in the next two or three decades. It is rather typical, actually, from what I've seen. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
A user has a Writer file with an ordered list of references. This file will be sent to another party. This list _must_ be Arabic Numerical 1,2,3 no matter what the _other_party_ has configured for their ordered list preferences (1,2,3 or a,b,c or א,ב,ג or I,II,III) on their computer. Other than writing them out by hand, how can the user configure the list to always be Arabic numerical? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
Dotan Cohen wrote: A user has a Writer file with an ordered list of references. This file will be sent to another party. This list _must_ be Arabic Numerical 1,2,3 no matter what the _other_party_ has configured for their ordered list preferences (1,2,3 or a,b,c or א,ב,ג or I,II,III) on their computer. Other than writing them out by hand, how can the user configure the list to always be Arabic numerical? Thanks! Dotan, If the second party will not need to edit the file Export to PDF sould maintain the text as needed. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
At 18:25 25/06/2010 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: A user has a Writer file with an ordered list of references. This file will be sent to another party. This list _must_ be Arabic Numerical 1,2,3 no matter what the _other_party_ has configured for their ordered list preferences (1,2,3 or a,b,c or ×,×,× or I,II,III) on their computer. Other than writing them out by hand, how can the user configure the list to always be Arabic numerical? Send the document as a PDF file? The point of distributing documents as word processor documents - of any format - is to allow further editing at the far end. If you allow further editing, you have no control over what the recipient does with your work and therefore over such facets as you mention. If you allow your correspondent to edit a document, you cannot make the stipulation you suggest. A PDF document, on the other hand (and as its name suggests), is designed to be more portable and for its appearance to depend less on software, platform, fonts, formats, paper sizes, printers, default text direction, and so on. In any case, surely the choice of numbering style is preserved for a particular list in a particular document, with the other user's default affecting only new material? If not, you could always create a numbered list manually - with the numbers being simply part of your text. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/25/2010 03:25 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: This list _must_ be Arabic Numerical 1,2,3 Why can't you use a paragraph style that includes a numbering style that uses Arabic Numbers? jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMJQroAAoJEAS/cyz7/v3c/J4H/Ag7oP1+SlPtfibyMoN54mgA JFKa3MG3Enf3rWAq+LqliVmJH19i1moIkgSRZ2Ww/OfyNnmAoBXCVfsRkdPfMtb6 XP+RcDBuNTBoGf5jiJeUoKoVAFQcPiictCf9slGdDgCMnUdJUoE0rgoop8RIn3v+ eLM6yZClDpKpdyTtF9fstRp1e6AQ8goXuigrlSMZdSXEIJEexnqECO2n3iGNgSd/ kBL/yG9YPRgS8wbzqAioF8ZZZ24i8MmpZDCQRyonPnCD4/3lXM8ElxqAqBddFx5y p5SETEF8Bq0aPx1KUrIb3Iki0oU+OQqlRgVtHKkFCB34KJg9+B2s5rPmC8eWakc= =kKqx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
On 25 June 2010 18:50, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 18:25 25/06/2010 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: A user has a Writer file with an ordered list of references. This file will be sent to another party. This list _must_ be Arabic Numerical 1,2,3 no matter what the _other_party_ has configured for their ordered list preferences (1,2,3 or a,b,c or × ,ב,×’ or I,II,III) on their computer. Other than writing them out by hand, how can the user configure the list to always be Arabic numerical? Send the document as a PDF file? The point of distributing documents as word processor documents - of any format - is to allow further editing at the far end. If you allow further editing, you have no control over what the recipient does with your work and therefore over such facets as you mention. If you allow your correspondent to edit a document, you cannot make the stipulation you suggest. A PDF document, on the other hand (and as its name suggests), is designed to be more portable and for its appearance to depend less on software, platform, fonts, formats, paper sizes, printers, default text direction, and so on. In any case, surely the choice of numbering style is preserved for a particular list in a particular document, with the other user's default affecting only new material? If not, you could always create a numbered list manually - with the numbers being simply part of your text. I trust this helps. Thanks. Actually, the requirement is that the page be sent as a Word document (.doc format) and that the references be hand-typed to avoid the character change. This is an academic requirement, there is no room to argue. Yes, I know that forcing students to turn in assignments as Word is bad but that is the assignment. It is a doctorate course and nobody is going to forfeit their doctorate to protest the Word requirement. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
On 25 June 2010 23:00, jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't you use a paragraph style that includes a numbering style that uses Arabic Numbers? Because I thought that might appear differently on machines that are differently configured. I'm happy to be wrong, though. I will have to play with Word and try different configurations to see how to change the ordered list character preference, I don't yet know how it works to to what it responds to. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: how to force Arabic Numerical numbering?
At 23:51 25/06/2010 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 25 June 2010 18:50, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: At 18:25 25/06/2010 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: A user has a Writer file with an ordered list of references. This file will be sent to another party. This list _must_ be Arabic Numerical 1,2,3 no matter what the _other_party_ has configured for their ordered list preferences (1,2,3 or a,b,c or à ,Ãâ,Ãâ or I,II,III) on their computer. Other than writing them out by hand, how can the user configure the list to always be Arabic numerical? Send the document as a PDF file? [...] Thanks. Actually, the requirement is that the page be sent as a Word document (.doc format) and that the references be hand-typed to avoid the character change. This is an academic requirement, there is no room to argue. Yes, I know that forcing students to turn in assignments as Word is bad but that is the assignment. It is a doctorate course and nobody is going to forfeit their doctorate to protest the Word requirement. If transferring material in this way does create problems in the way that you fear, then I suppose this is an excellent example of why such a requirement is unwise. For the avoidance of doubt, you and your user have my sympathies! Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer: Erasing triple-dash lines after paragraphs
How does one erase triple-dash lines that are placed after paragraphs? To test, type this text in Writer: test --- Now try to erase the line created by the dashes. Is this really expected behaviour, or is it a bug? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Erasing triple-dash lines after paragraphs
Dotan Cohen wrote: How does one erase triple-dash lines that are placed after paragraphs? To test, type this text in Writer: test --- Now try to erase the line created by the dashes. Is this really expected behaviour, or is it a bug? What the triple dash does is apply a paragraph format to the paragraph above the line, specifically by applying a lower border to the paragraph. To remove the line, go to Format Paragraph, click the Border tab, and under Line Style, select None. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Erasing triple-dash lines after paragraphs
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: How does one erase triple-dash lines that are placed after paragraphs? To test, type this text in Writer: test --- Now try to erase the line created by the dashes. Is this really expected behaviour, or is it a bug? This is an AutoCorrect feature which turns those dashes into a border. To remove it, either undo immediately after it turns the dashes into a border, or: - place the cursor on the test line - go to Format menu Paragraph - select the Borders tab - click the line below the grey rectangle on the left to make it disappear (representing which borders are in place around the paragraph) - click OK To turn off this feature, so that dashes don't get turned into a border: - go to Tools menu AutoCorrect Options - select the Options tab - untick the box next to Apply border (While there, you may want to look at some of the other things AutoCorrect can do for you. Click the Help button for explanations.) - click OK Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Erasing triple-dash lines after paragraphs
On 23/06/2010 11:06, Dotan Cohen wrote: How does one erase triple-dash lines that are placed after paragraphs? To test, type this text in Writer: test --- Now try to erase the line created by the dashes. Is this really expected behaviour, or is it a bug? Dotan The answer is in the help under deleting lines in text It reads like this Automatic lines in Writer 1. If you start a new line in a Writer text document by typing three or more hyphen characters and press the Enter key, the characters are removed and the previous paragraph gets a line as a bottom border. To create a single line, type three or more hyphens (-), or underscores ( _ ), and then press Enter. To create a double line, type three or more equal signs (=), asterisks (*), tildes (~), or hash marks (#), and then press Enter. 2. To remove an automatically drawn border, choose Format - Paragraph - Borders and select no border. 3. To undo an automatic border replacement once, choose Edit - Undo. 4. To disable the automatic borders, choose Tools - AutoCorrect Options - Options and clear Apply border. Thanks Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Erasing triple-dash lines after paragraphs
Thanks, all, for the answers. So it is not a bug after all, but it sure is a gotcha! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Erasing triple-dash lines after paragraphs
On 06/23/2010 11:17 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Thanks, all, for the answers. So it is not a bug after all, but it sure is a gotcha! I found that if you go to the top and do not delete it but next to it hit delete the line will disappear. Possibly a shorter method to use that all the others. Tom -- PC, Where would you like to go today? ... Mac, Where would you like to be tomorrow? ... Linux, Are you guys coming, or not? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer features disabled in .doc format
I see that Versions is disabled when saving in .doc format. I have googled but cannot find a listing of what other OOo Writer features are disabled when saving in .doc format. is there such a list? Does anybody know what other features might be disabled? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer features disabled in .doc format
On 13/06/2010 10:08, Dotan Cohen wrote: I see that Versions is disabled when saving in .doc format. I have googled but cannot find a listing of what other OOo Writer features are disabled when saving in .doc format. is there such a list? Does anybody know what other features might be disabled? Thanks. Dotan Why not save the file in ODT format so that you keep the version information and then only produce the .doc format as an exception. Thanks Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer features disabled in .doc format
On 13 June 2010 20:01, Rob Clement r...@robbev.com wrote: Why not save the file in ODT format so that you keep the version information and then only produce the .doc format as an exception. Because this user is in an MS Office environment. He is testing OOo as a possible replacement for a lab (my fourth!) but everyone else is still on MSO. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] writer, elenco numerato
On 02/06/10 19:21, Vittorio wrote: Uso writer per esigenze scolastiche e devo spesso fare elenchi numerati. Se l'elenco occupa solo mezzo foglio faccio copia e incolla per avere 2 documenti sullo stesso foglio che poi taglio a metà. Però la numerazione della copia non parte da 1 come nell'originale, ma continua dal successivo. Non ho ancora trovato il rimedio, ma spero che ci sia. Un saluto a tutti. Sonia Hello Sonia, This list is in English, however there is a mailing list for Italian speakers here: ute...@it.openoffice.org Regards, Michele Ciao Sonia, QUesta lista e' in lingua inglese, esiste pero' una lista in italiano al seguente indirizzo ute...@it.openoffice.org Ciao, Michele - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] writer, elenco numerato
Uso writer per esigenze scolastiche e devo spesso fare elenchi numerati. Se l'elenco occupa solo mezzo foglio faccio copia e incolla per avere 2 documenti sullo stesso foglio che poi taglio a metà. Però la numerazione della copia non parte da 1 come nell'originale, ma continua dal successivo. Non ho ancora trovato il rimedio, ma spero che ci sia. Un saluto a tutti. Sonia
Re: [users] writer : position of endnotes and 2 columns
Indeed, a known issue: http://fr.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=37095 Éric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] writer : position of endnotes and 2 columns
How can I collect my endnotes where I want? Not a lot of answer :-( For the present manuscript, I'm trying to find a workaround. I put the Bibliography part at the last position, after Annexes chapter. Indeed, endnotes don't appear on the same page as the title but on a separated page. How to put my endnotes just under my chapter title, not in a separated page? Éric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] writer : position of endnotes and 2 columns
Hi, I'm making a document with writer. Some parts of the document have two columns. I also have endnotes in my text. The overall organization looks like: Introduction Text in two columns bla bla bla Analyze Text in two columns bla bla bla Conclusion Text in two columns bla bla bla Bibliography Annexes Default behavior, the endnotes are at the end, after Annexes. I want the endnotes do be in Bibliography. So, I selected all the text from Introduction down to Bibliography. I did Insert|Section. In page note / end notes tab, I checked collect at end of section. But then, endnotes are collected at each end of two columns section (inside the columns). Indeed, each two column section became a sub-section of my global section. So, I tried for each sub-section to uncheck Collect at the end of section but it did not changed anything. Moreover, when going again to the selection options, I see the the option is still checked. How can I collect my endnotes where I want? OOO 3.2.0/WinXP SP3 Éric - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer RTF/Doc files blocked by IE 7/8
Win XP/Pro, OO 3.1, IE 8 (but happened in IE 7, too) Our ISAPI apps return three kinds of formatted documents, as HTML, a PDF and an RTF, which is a Word format. The first two open fine in a new window, which they are designed to do. The .rtf (and .doc) files get blocked loading into the just created new window (with a beep), which then closes. It's the condition normally associated with a popup block -- except the windows blocker is disabled and the google blocker is set to allow popups from our domain. In fact, the condition exists even when this blocker is turned off. And, just like when a popup would block, holding Ctrl down overrides it (ie, then the file opens OO writer in the new window). I've fought this for days without a solution and I'm very close to tossing OO out and heading back to MS. Thinking it might be an Active-X block I reset Internet Option basically to insecure with no effect. I'm hoping some developer or user of OO has hit this and resolved it. My bag of tricks is now empty. Jerry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer RTF/Doc files blocked by IE 7/8
Hi Jerry, Jerry Clancy wrote: Win XP/Pro, OO 3.1, IE 8 (but happened in IE 7, too) Our ISAPI apps return three kinds of formatted documents, as HTML, a PDF and an RTF, which is a Word format. The first two open fine in a new window, which they are designed to do. The .rtf (and .doc) files get blocked loading into the just created new window (with a beep), which then closes. It's the condition normally associated with a popup block -- except the windows blocker is disabled and the google blocker is set to allow popups from our domain. In fact, the condition exists even when this blocker is turned off. And, just like when a popup would block, holding Ctrl down overrides it (ie, then the file opens OO writer in the new window). I am not sure how, after the last statement, it can be an OO.o issue. It would appear that it is an I.E. issue as OO.o is not opened to allow by Windows, the control over-ride. If you have a link that you can pass on for one of the docs maybe someone running XP can help with the security setting. I've fought this for days without a solution and I'm very close to tossing OO out and heading back to MS. Thinking it might be an Active-X block I reset Internet Option basically to insecure with no effect. I'm hoping some developer or user of OO has hit this and resolved it. My bag of tricks is now empty. Jerry Dumping OO.o due to problems with IE or XP is not not helping you or the problem. Just a though. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer program crash/exit
Windows Server 2008, OO.o3.2 Since recent Windows Upgrates ;) some users have been getting program shutdown (like a normal exit) on any paste into a document. Tried: * Pasting different things - text from web, text from notepad or images. * Edit - Paste Special (paste only text) * Pasting to an empty document. * Running from Shell to see if i can find any error codes for program exit. This has to be the wrong way to do this. Will collect any suggestions but won't try them till Monday AM NZST. TIA -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer program crash/exit
Hi Michael, Am Fri, 07 May 2010 17:48:01 +1200 schrieb Michael Adams linux_m...@paradise.net.nz: Windows Server 2008, OO.o3.2 Since recent Windows Upgrates ;) some users have been getting program shutdown (like a normal exit) on any paste into a document. I can confirm this problems with Windows XP SP2 (I think) on my netbook. It is annoying - I can't copy anything. I used paste special (text only) to make sure, that I don't copy anything, that might affect my computer in any way. Tried: * Pasting different things - text from web, text from notepad or images. * Edit - Paste Special (paste only text) * Pasting to an empty document. * Running from Shell to see if i can find any error codes for program exit. This has to be the wrong way to do this. I've sent several crash reports from OOo to SUN/Oracle. I hope, that they can find the error and the solution for it soon. ;) Sigrid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
I think the issue is that there are both true paragraphs and paragraphs chopped apart by line wrapping into multiple pseudo-paragraphs when the text was copied from the web. The object is to remove the odd breakage points so that the text can flow normally, obeying widow and orphan settings. The extra paragraph breaks (but not the true ones), then, should be replaced with blanks. I can see how to do this, except it involves an Edit-Replace on a selection of the text that excludes replacement of the true paragraph breaks, which would be a real pain. But if I'm reading this right, there would be no way to distinguish the two kinds of breaks automatically. Hi Barbara. All of the br were converted into paragraph breaks in OOo. In my opinion, that is a bug. HTML specifies p/p as paragraph breaks and br as line breaks, so pasted text should follow this convention. I will file an issue. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Hi Barbara. All of the br were converted into paragraph breaks in OOo. In my opinion, that is a bug. HTML specifies p/p as paragraph breaks and br as line breaks, so pasted text should follow this convention. I will file an issue. Here is the bug: Pasted HTML text has incorrect paragraph breaks http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=110693 -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen wrote: I think the issue is that there are both true paragraphs and paragraphs chopped apart by line wrapping into multiple pseudo-paragraphs when the text was copied from the web. The object is to remove the odd breakage points so that the text can flow normally, obeying widow and orphan settings. The extra paragraph breaks (but not the true ones), then, should be replaced with blanks. I can see how to do this, except it involves an Edit-Replace on a selection of the text that excludes replacement of the true paragraph breaks, which would be a real pain. But if I'm reading this right, there would be no way to distinguish the two kinds of breaks automatically. Hi Barbara. All of thebr were converted into paragraph breaks in OOo. In my opinion, that is a bug. HTML specifiesp/p as paragraph breaks andbr as line breaks, so pasted text should follow this convention. I will file an issue. There might be something more to this than meets the eye. Did you look at the original HTML of the text that you copied into Writer? I used SeaMonkey's Compose to create an HTML document with a paragraph containing line breaks: body p The sly red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. /pbr pMary had a little lambbr Whose fleece was white as snowbr And everywhere that Mary wentbr The lamb was sure to go./p /body I then copied it into Writer (3.2), saved it, and extracted Content XML. The corresponding paragraph is: text:p text:style-name=Text_20_bodyThe sly red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. /text:ptext:p text:style-name=Text_20_body/text:p text:style-name=Text_20_body Mary had a little lambtext:line-break/Whose fleece was white as snowtext:line-break/ And everywhere that Mary wenttext:line-break/The lamb was sure to go./text:p In this case, every br was converted to text:line-break/ which is what I think is suppose to happen. The paragraph breaks also were converted properly as well. This does not show the bug you seemed to have found. This is why I'm wondering about the HTML of the web page. In creating it, did someone use /p for each line instead of br perhaps? I don't have the URL of the web page you copied, so I can not say for sure. Dan
[users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
In Writer, I have a document with this structure: Heading 1 Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body I need for page breaks not to occur after a Heading and not after the first or second line of a Text Body. In other words, the end of a page should never be a heading, and the end of a page should never have only one or two lines of Text body. How is this configured? Should I post a sample document to clarify? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 20:46, Dotan Cohen wrote: In Writer, I have a document with this structure: Heading 1 Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body I need for page breaks not to occur after a Heading and not after the first or second line of a Text Body. In other words, the end of a page should never be a heading, and the end of a page should never have only one or two lines of Text body. How is this configured? Should I post a sample document to clarify? In English the term is Widows and Orphans. A widow is a short line at the end of a paragraph which appears on the next page/column. An orphan is the first line of a paragraph printed alone at the bottom of the previous page. The control for this can be set for any paragraph style. To set an existing document in arears: * Highlight All - [Ctrl][A] * Format - Paragraphs -- Text flow tab HTH -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
In English the term is Widows and Orphans. A widow is a short line at the end of a paragraph which appears on the next page/column. An orphan is the first line of a paragraph printed alone at the bottom of the previous page. The control for this can be set for any paragraph style. To set an existing document in arears: * Highlight All - [Ctrl][A] * Format - Paragraphs -- Text flow tab Thank you Michael! I found the Widow and Orphan options, however even with the options checked and configured for 2 lines, the document still has Widows and Orphans of one line each. Furthermore, when applied to a document with two columns (which the document in question needs to be) whenever I press OK and reopen Format - Paragraphs - Text flow the Do not split paragraph is rechecked and the Widow and Orphan control boxen are empty. This in on OOo 3.1 on Kubuntu 9.10. Shall I send the document? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Actually, it seems that even with a single-column layout the Do not split paragraph box is rechecked and the Widow and Orphan control boxen are empty. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com The Beatles - 2000 - 1.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it seems that even with a single-column layout the Do not split paragraph box is rechecked and the Widow and Orphan control boxen are empty. Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. Did you select all and then make the change? Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. HTH -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. The end goal would be changing all the text in each section to one paragraph. As these are song lyrics, that is quite reasonable. One would not expect each line of a song to be a separate paragraph. Did you select all and then make the change? Yes. Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Yes. Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. This is in fact text that was pasted from the internet. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. The problem is that pasted text results in paragraphs for line breaks. How can I work around that? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I can't see a way either. I have found a way to do the reverse (convert new lines to paragraph breaks), but unfortunately that's not much use in your case. For anyone who may be interested, from the help for regular expressions in Find Replace (from Find Replace, click More Options and tick Regular expressions): \n Represents a line break that was inserted with the Shift+Enter key combination. To change a line break into a paragraph break, enter \n in the Search for and Replace with boxes, and then perform a search and replace. \n in the Search for text box stands for a line break that was inserted with the Shift+Enter key combination. \n in the Replace with text box stands for a paragraph break that can be entered with the Enter or Return key. Presumably this is the way it's supposed to work... seems a bit strange to me that \n has a different meaning depending whether it's in the search or replace field. Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Michael Adams wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. Did you select all and then make the change? Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. HTH Suggestion for converting the each line is a paragraph into the original paragraph setup: 1) Go through the text placing a # after the punctuation mark at the end of each paragraph. 2) Open Find (Control+F). 3) Enter $ in the Search box and # in the Replace box. 4) Click More options button. 5) Click the Regular Expression box. 6) Click the Replace all. Now you have one paragraph with the #'s showing where each paragraph ends. 7) Replace $ with # in the Search box and replace # with \n in the Replace box. 8) The Regular Expression box should be checked (ticked). 9) Click Replace all. Now you should have your paragraphs looking like they did on the web page. The suggestions about orphan and widow paragarphs should no work as well. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Daniel Lewis - elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Adams wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. (snip) Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. I think the idea is to put each verse of the song lyrics into a separate paragraph, but with line breaks at the end of each line. Making the whole document into a single paragraph certainly wouldn't help. (snip) Suggestion for converting the each line is a paragraph into the original paragraph setup: 1) Go through the text placing a # after the punctuation mark at the end of each paragraph. 2) Open Find (Control+F). 3) Enter $ in the Search box and # in the Replace box. 4) Click More options button. 5) Click the Regular Expression box. 6) Click the Replace all. Now you have one paragraph with the #'s showing where each paragraph ends. 7) Replace $ with # in the Search box and replace # with \n in the Replace box. 8) The Regular Expression box should be checked (ticked). 9) Click Replace all. Now you should have your paragraphs looking like they did on the web page. The suggestions about orphan and widow paragarphs should no work as well. Dan But while a \n in the Find box matches a *line* break, in the Replace box it inserts a *paragraph* break. Doesn't make sense to me either, but it's well documented in the help and on the Wiki, so is presumably the way it's supposed to be. I came across similar tricks with regular expressions which almost get there, but unless there is a way to insert a line break in the Replace text, I don't think anything is going to completely do it. It does seem strange that it's possible to find a line break, but not insert one as a replacement. Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Now that the line breaks are out of the way, the Widow and Orphan control works! However, there are Headings as Widows. What must I configure to associate the Headings with the Text Body that follows, so that there will not be Heading Widows? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
In the content.xml file I tried replacing this text: /text:ptext:p text:style-name=Text_20_body With this: text:line-break/ It worked! The document is attached. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com test.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Now that the line breaks are out of the way, the Widow and Orphan control works! However, there are Headings as Widows. What must I configure to associate the Headings with the Text Body that follows, so that there will not be Heading Widows? The headings already have Keep with next paragraph set under Format Paragraph Text Flow, but it doesn't quite work as expected because you have a blank paragraph between the heading and first verse. Probably best to remove those blank paragraphs, and increase the Below paragraph spacing for the headings if you want a gap (easiest done by modifying the style). You could also remove the blank paragraphs between verses and increase the spacing below those paragraphs as well. Again, all best done using the styles. Well spotted searching the XML to replace line breaks by the way! Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
The headings already have Keep with next paragraph set under Format Paragraph Text Flow, but it doesn't quite work as expected because you have a blank paragraph between the heading and first verse. Probably best to remove those blank paragraphs, and increase the Below paragraph spacing for the headings if you want a gap (easiest done by modifying the style). You could also remove the blank paragraphs between verses and increase the spacing below those paragraphs as well. Again, all best done using the styles. Thank you! Well spotted searching the XML to replace line breaks by the way! Thanks, I could think of nothing else. I love non-binary file formats! This issue is solved! Thank you Michael, Mark, and Daniel. I learned quite a bit with this. Have a great night. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Michael Adams wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. Did you select all and then make the change? Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. HTH I think the issue is that there are both true paragraphs and paragraphs chopped apart by line wrapping into multiple pseudo-paragraphs when the text was copied from the web. The object is to remove the odd breakage points so that the text can flow normally, obeying widow and orphan settings. The extra paragraph breaks (but not the true ones), then, should be replaced with blanks. I can see how to do this, except it involves an Edit-Replace on a selection of the text that excludes replacement of the true paragraph breaks, which would be a real pain. But if I'm reading this right, there would be no way to distinguish the two kinds of breaks automatically. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] writer: import tables with formula
Harm. I hoped for help. summary: - works: SO-3.1 - Expression is faulty: OO-1.1 OO-2.4 OO-3.1-win SO-8 1. Howto convert this old documents? 2. Howto convert formula as fieldvariable into simple formula? Please send me a link, if this problem already known. Now i tested any versions. summary: --- c1 support field formula only c2 load document: field: Expression is faulty c3 support simple formula c4 export dokument into extern fomrat with formula (ex. word,xml) c1 c2 c3 c4 so-3.1 x - - - so-5- - x - so-7- x x - so-7u15 *1 - x x x so-8- x x x oo-1- x x x oo-2.4 - x x x oo-3- x x x *1 include fix 24755 input fields crashes Writer --- The last version seems to be so-5 which can handle many tables, but cannot export to xml. btw. if load document does not destroy formula, then possibly save file as xml and edit this. ex: text:table-formula text:formula=ooow:lt;?gt;*2 style:data-style-name=N5005 FR: add option to oo like: --nocheckformulaloaddoc regards heiko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
Hi there is a work around just take back the default margins to 0 (zero)say yes to the non print warning set your margins on the active page you can try this I dont know how it prints Thanks, Stewart. I knew about the workaround, but I wanted to know if this was intentional behaviour or a programming error. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
I use View Web Layout. I leave my margins alone. It's a nice simple environment. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stewart stewartha...@cogeco.ca wrote: On 09/03/2010 2:15 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: When setting the Page background colour in Writer, the area in the margins remains white. Is this a feature (as a printed document would presumably not be printed there) or a bug (as the user is formatting the Page, not the currently active widget). Thanks. Hi there is a work around just take back the default margins to 0 (zero)say yes to the non print warning set your margins on the active page you can try this I dont know how it prints Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
Please urgently stop all e-mails to my computer . I have send a lot of mails asking to stop this immediately. -Original Message- From: Guy Voets [mailto:nimant...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2010 12:44 PM To: users@openoffice.org Cc: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug? 2010/3/9 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: When setting the Page background colour in Writer, the area in the margins remains white. Is this a feature (as a printed document would presumably not be printed there) or a bug (as the user is formatting the Page, not the currently active widget). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen Hello Dotan, Feature and bug sometimes come very close to each other. I solve it as follows: When I want a coloured background for a document to be used in mail or web, I set all margins to 0 (page style) I choose the background colour (page style) I determine a border (can be same colour as background) and use the 'distance to content' to use instead of the margins (still in the same page style) or I use a paragraph style that determines indents (to replace margins), but that doesn't work as it should with lists (enumeration goes through the right side indent). HTH -- Guy using dutch OOo 3.2 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard and brazilian OOo 3.2 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
Sorry, everyone. I broke the first rule of list membership and didn't see that Guy had already answered the OP. //J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org How come many people know how to subscribe, but are unable to follow a simple procedure to unsubscribe? Is being subscribed to a list so debilitating? So: 1. send an empty mail to the unsubscribe address. Send this mail from the email address where you receive the mails from this list (payrollex...@gmail.com). 2. reply to the mail that is send to you to confirm your unsubscription. -- Guy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
Hi Payrollexcel: No-one on this list can do this. We're all just ordinary users like you. You will have to send an email message from your account, payrollexc...@gmail.com to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org Subject and message can be empty. //James Please urgently stop all e-mails to my computer . I have send a lot of mails asking to stop this immediately. -Original Message- From: Guy Voets [mailto:nimant...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2010 12:44 PM To: users@openoffice.org Cc: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug? 2010/3/9 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: When setting the Page background colour in Writer, the area in the margins remains white. Is this a feature (as a printed document would presumably not be printed there) or a bug (as the user is formatting the Page, not the currently active widget). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen Hello Dotan, Feature and bug sometimes come very close to each other. I solve it as follows: When I want a coloured background for a document to be used in mail or web, • I set all margins to 0 (page style) • I choose the background colour (page style) • I determine a border (can be same colour as background) and use the 'distance to content' to use instead of the margins (still in the same page style) or • I use a paragraph style that determines indents (to replace margins), but that doesn't work as it should with lists (enumeration goes through the right side indent). HTH -- Guy using dutch OOo 3.2 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard and brazilian OOo 3.2 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
2010/3/9 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: When setting the Page background colour in Writer, the area in the margins remains white. Is this a feature (as a printed document would presumably not be printed there) or a bug (as the user is formatting the Page, not the currently active widget). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen Hello Dotan, Feature and bug sometimes come very close to each other. I solve it as follows: When I want a coloured background for a document to be used in mail or web, • I set all margins to 0 (page style) • I choose the background colour (page style) • I determine a border (can be same colour as background) and use the 'distance to content' to use instead of the margins (still in the same page style) or • I use a paragraph style that determines indents (to replace margins), but that doesn't work as it should with lists (enumeration goes through the right side indent). HTH -- Guy using dutch OOo 3.2 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard and brazilian OOo 3.2 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer page background colour: feature or bug?
When setting the Page background colour in Writer, the area in the margins remains white. Is this a feature (as a printed document would presumably not be printed there) or a bug (as the user is formatting the Page, not the currently active widget). Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer; Decimal Tab Stops?
Hi, I'm in the process of changing some Word templates to Writer templates and I've hit a snag. How do you set a decimal tab stop? That's one where, when digits are entered, they align to the left or right of the decimal point. A decimal tab stop is one where in a column of numbers, the decimal points will all align one under the other. e.g. digits after the fixed position (column wise) decimal point fill in to the right, and digits to the right of the decimal point fill in toward the left. Output would look like (with a mono-space font): $ 0.254 $300.79 $5.5657 $15.969 and so on, all the decimals and cents aligned so they start in the same character column, one over the other. The 3 and 4 digits resolution after the decimal is used in the fine-detail descriptions of very large numbers of objects and is not a typo. I found a decimal tab stops entry in OO.o's Help, but the information seems to have nothing whatever to do with a decimal tab stop. In fact, it's apparently the General Settings information and only briefly mentions tab stops. I feel like I've done it before in OO.o, but darned if I can figure out how now! Thanks much in advance for any relevant information/comments you may have, Twayne -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer; Decimal Tab Stops?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com wrote: Hi, I'm in the process of changing some Word templates to Writer templates and I've hit a snag. How do you set a decimal tab stop? That's one where, when digits are entered, they align to the left or right of the decimal point. A decimal tab stop is one where in a column of numbers, the decimal points will all align one under the other. e.g. digits after the fixed position (column wise) decimal point fill in to the right, and digits to the right of the decimal point fill in toward the left. Output would look like (with a mono-space font): $ 0.254 $300.79 $5.5657 $15.969 and so on, all the decimals and cents aligned so they start in the same character column, one over the other. The 3 and 4 digits resolution after the decimal is used in the fine-detail descriptions of very large numbers of objects and is not a typo. I found a decimal tab stops entry in OO.o's Help, but the information seems to have nothing whatever to do with a decimal tab stop. In fact, it's apparently the General Settings information and only briefly mentions tab stops. I feel like I've done it before in OO.o, but darned if I can figure out how now! Thanks much in advance for any relevant information/comments you may have, If you look at the ruler at the top of the document, there is a small icon on the left showing the current tab stop type. If you click on it, you will see cycle it through left, right, decimal and center tabs. If you stop at the decimal tab, then when you insert a tab on the ruler, it will be a decimal tab. You can also call up the paragraph formatting dialog and set your tabs and their types there. Twayne -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] writer: import tables with formula
Hallo, I want to import several writer.tables from so3 into oo3. Used formula as field-variable with relative reference. =C2*2 This works in running session. Write document seen works successfull. ($ strings foo.sdw | more ) But after reload dokument (or import from so3), formula on 2.table are broken. =?*2 Expression is faulty Formula as field-variable with absolute reference, do not have the problem. =Tabelle3.C2*2 Example avaible at http://www-home.fh-lausitz.de/~hlehmann/tmp/test_tab.sdw (see Tab2:E2) Now I examined several versions. summary: - works: SO-3.1 - Expression is faulty: OO-1.1 OO-2.4 OO-3.1-win SO-8 1. Howto convert this old documents? 2. Howto convert formula as fieldvariable into simple formula? Please send me a link, if this problem already known. regards Heiko - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
True as in not all the text goes vertical so, yes I think it's a bug. Thank you, Harold. Can you please confirm that you see the bug on your OS as well: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109588 Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
2010/2/25 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: True as in not all the text goes vertical so, yes I think it's a bug. Thank you, Harold. Can you please confirm that you see the bug on your OS as well: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109588 Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen Hello Dotan, It seems to me that rotating text simply doesn't work for RTL. Confirmed your issue for Mac Leopard (10.5) with OOo 3.2. -- Guy using dutch OOo 3.2 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard and brazilian OOo 3.2 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
Hello Dotan, It seems to me that rotating text simply doesn't work for RTL. Confirmed your issue for Mac Leopard (10.5) with OOo 3.2. I see that you mentioned that on the bug report. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer: reduce list spacing
Writer uses paragraph spacing between items in lists. How can I reduce this spacing? To see what I mean, type helloenter cruelShift-enter worldenter * oneenter two It can be seen that the vertical spacing between hello and cruel is larger than the spacing between cruel and world. It can also be seen that the spacing between one and two is this same large spacing. How can I reduce this spacing? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: reduce list spacing
2010/2/25 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: Writer uses paragraph spacing between items in lists. How can I reduce this spacing? To see what I mean, type helloenter cruelShift-enter worldenter * oneenter two It can be seen that the vertical spacing between hello and cruel is larger than the spacing between cruel and world. It can also be seen that the spacing between one and two is this same large spacing. How can I reduce this spacing? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen Hello again, I'd say it depends on the paragraph style. If I do as you say with my default standard paragraph style, the spacing between the lines is the same everywhere. If I apply the textbloc paragraph style, all spacings increase but the shift-enter one (cruel/world). So I propose you look into the 'indents and distances' (if that's what it's called in English) of the paragraph style you use. Distance above and/or under paragraph should be set to 0. HTH -- Guy using dutch OOo 3.2 on a iMac Intel DualCore Snow Leopard and brazilian OOo 3.2 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard -- please reply only to users@openoffice.org -- Dodoes can't afford to have headaches - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
On 25 February 2010 09:17, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: True as in not all the text goes vertical so, yes I think it's a bug. Thank you, Harold. Can you please confirm that you see the bug on your OS as well: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109588 Thanks! Done. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
Done. Thanks, Harold! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
In OOo 3.1.1 on Kubuntu 9.10 I cannot show numbers vertically in Writer. Steps to reproduce: 1* Open a new document (LTR or RTL, both are affected) 2* Create 10x1 table (10 columns, 1 row) 3* In one of the cells paste this info (without quotes): דותן כהן 054-7881700 4* Select the entire table 5* Format - Character - Position - Rotation - 90 degress By playing with the LTR/RTL settings (Format - Paragraph - Alignment - Properties - Text direction) I can get the text _or_ the numbers to be vertical, but not both. Can someone confirm this before I file a bug? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
On 22 February 2010 09:05, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: In OOo 3.1.1 on Kubuntu 9.10 I cannot show numbers vertically in Writer. Steps to reproduce: 1* Open a new document (LTR or RTL, both are affected) 2* Create 10x1 table (10 columns, 1 row) 3* In one of the cells paste this info (without quotes): דותן כהן 054-7881700 4* Select the entire table 5* Format - Character - Position - Rotation - 90 degress True on OOo 3.1.1 Win XP pro By playing with the LTR/RTL settings (Format - Paragraph - Alignment - Properties - Text direction) I can get the text _or_ the numbers to be vertical, but not both. In OOo 3.1.1 Win XP pro there is *no* Properties option here. Can someone confirm this before I file a bug? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be sure that I read your message. I do not read all list mail. Huh? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
True on OOo 3.1.1 Win XP pro True as in you see a bug? In OOo 3.1.1 Win XP pro there is *no* Properties option here. It might only show in RTL installations. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: Cannot mix numbers and RTL text vertically
Dotan Cohen wrote: True on OOo 3.1.1 Win XP pro True as in you see a bug? True as in not all the text goes vertical so, yes I think it's a bug. In OOo 3.1.1 Win XP pro there is *no* Properties option here. It might only show in RTL installations. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
[users] Writer column flow occasionally interspersed with blank segments
I recently upgraded to 3.1.1 hoping that a quirk in 2.x would be fixed and that the RTF converson to .odt would be speeded up but, alas, not so. We produce a monster, 600-page document each month (at mostly 7-pt. text). The master has roughly eight sections differing by headers and sometimes column formatting. The largest sections are all 3-column formats. Each month we cut the text from a section (but not the section itself) and replace it with newly generated Rich Text which is intially ported and converted to a temp Oo file. The good news is that the conversion is very good. The bad news is that, like 2.x, it is incredibly slow, sometimes taking 20 minutes to convert some 250 pages (MS Word takes seconds but, of course, rtf is native to Word). We then cut paste the converted temp file into the main document section. The other quirk is that when flowing the columns Oo often produces random blank gaps often multiple columns long where there are none in the source being pasted. This forces us to review the doc page-by-page. I have found that adding a carraige return at the end of the last character before such a break and then immediately deleting it causes the recatentation of the text segments as they should be. I think this is a random synchronization error in Oo due to the size of the text, but it's just a guess. Another quirk, introduced in 3.1.1 and noticed in a much shorter, one-format document (but also 3-column format), is that when new text is pasted after some existing text, Oo seems to insist of inserting a Page Break in front of it. Don't know why and it is behavior that did not exist in 2.x. We'll live with it, as we did with 2.x, but I would hope these get addressed in a future release. Jerry Clancy PS.: Yes, I know 3.2 is out but haven't had time to upgrade. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
