date:20060119

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 06:01:39 +0100, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:47 PM, nikadigital wrote:
>
>> it doesn't matter
>>  if you are making money or doing this for charity. you must secure
>>  clearance.
>
> This just isn't true. There are many times when you can use material
> that is owned by others without their permission. I can do a story
> about Home Depot, for example, use their logo, film in front of their
> store and talk all about them without their permission.

Nikidigital was talking about copyright. Logos are usuallly not covered by  
copyrights (they're not Works), and Home Depot certainly don't have  
copyrights covering their storefronts. What you're talking about is not  
copyrights!

> It's called FAIR USE, and there are many many times people can use
> footage created or owned by others, images and trademarks and public
> appearances and such.

No, Fair Use related to using copyrighted works.

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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Crystal


> 
> Nikidigital was talking about copyright. Logos are usuallly not 
covered by  
> copyrights (they're not Works), and Home Depot certainly don't 
have  
> copyrights covering their storefronts. What you're talking about 
is not  
> copyrights!
> 
> > It's called FAIR USE, and there are many many times people can 
use
> > footage created or owned by others, images and trademarks and 
public
> > appearances and such.
> 
> No, Fair Use related to using copyrighted works.
> 
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Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with 
background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the 
pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net. 
Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its mainly for 
Friends and Family

is that breaking any laws?

I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share 
it with people??
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:58 +0100, Crystal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
> background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
> pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
> Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its mainly for
> Friends and Family
>
> is that breaking any laws?
>
> I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
> it with people??

When you buy a cd you buy a copy of the music for personal use. What you  
can and cannot do is governed by copyright law. Broadcasting the music to  
the world is not one of the things you can do. This is why I keep  
repeating my mantra: Educate yourself. Buy a book or borrow one at the  
library. Learn the law.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Jen Simmons

Yes,
  in my rant I was being completely U.S.-centric without acknowledging 
it... (very american). I apologize.

Thanks for letting us know about copyright law are Australia. Anyone 
else?? Other places??

This does bring up interesting points -- the internet is global, so how 
does the law or practices of individual countries come into play? Since 
the corporate conglomerate has become more powerful than any country 
and more rights-laden than any individual, and passes right over 
borders as if they aren't there -- how does this reality affect what we 
as artists do or don't do? Does U.S. copyright law cover the globe in a 
way, since most global corporations are run by U.S. owners (with an 
"off-shore" address to evade taxes of course)?

The professional independent U.S. filmmaker community is obsessed with 
copyright law in just the U.S., but it really is a globe question. Is 
the global videoblogging community the group to help figure a lot of 
this out / help create a climate of openness, a culture of taking all 
opportunities, and a habit of pushing the envelope instead of recoiling 
in fear??

jen

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On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote:

>
>
> Jen, I'm guessing you live in USA?
> just for info for any Aussies on the list who haven't already seen 
> this, here's a fair use - myths & misconceptions document from 
> Australian Copyright Centre ( http://www.copyright.org.au ) as there 
> are some differences between Aus & US laws
> http://www.copyright.org.au/specialinterest/G091.pdf
>
> cheers
> Kath
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[videoblogging] Voting For Your Favorite Video

2006-01-19 Thread Carolyn Sebolao

I was wandering how I would be able to have people vote for their 
favorite video on a video blog and is it possible.

What would be the best way to do this?





 
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Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???

2006-01-19 Thread john coffey

Josh, you feel my pain! Bt once I'm there, a vlog from
Philly and the Chesapeake Bay area.

--- Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but
> if you want to play
> > your video on line and not make a link for
> feedburner for itunes or
> > fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube,
> then blog from there
> > and they will put a flash version of your video
> straight on your site,
> 
> Ummm... yeah, see that's the problem. No feed. No
> iTunes. No FireAnt.
> No viewing experience other than an embedded Flash
> player on your
> site. That's a serious limitation.
> 
> -josh
> 
> 
> On 1/18/06, Paul Knight
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know this is possibly not gonna help at all, but
> if you want to play
> > your video on line and not make a link for
> feedburner for itunes or
> > fireant, post you video to Dailymotion or Youtube,
> then blog from there
> > and they will put a flash version of your video
> straight on your site,
> > a lot of people are doing it, because it is really
> simple.  The sites
> > tell you how to and Dailymotion all you need is
> you site url and they
> > do the rest for you.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 19 Jan 2006, at 01:37, john coffey wrote:
> >
> > > To Michael Verdi, Ryanne and Jay, your Freevlog
> is just such an
> > > immense help with getting my vlog up, almost...
> I've shot the stuff,
> > > encoded it, done a screen shot too! But Michaels
> example of uploading
> > > to Blogger is leaving me a little lost with
> uploading to Wordpress.
> > > Wordpress 2.0 has an image button but I cant
> seem to get a Quicktime
> > > embedded. Any help from the Vlog group would be
> so helpful to this
> > > Mac head!
> > > John
> > > www.jchtv.com
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Photos â Showcase holiday pictures in
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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread David Howell

How about the rebroadcasting of video? I see this time and time again
online where someone has captured something off the television, or
downloaded it from somewhere and then slapped it up on their website.

Case and point, http://www.palazzojay.blogspot.com/

The reason I am using this site as an example (there are tons of sites
similar to this one out there) is that these rebroadcasted videos are
all over Blip this morning. Now, the person that has that website
really isnt breaking a copyright law. Correct? Blip are the ones that
are actually hosting those videos. I assume that they must accept full
responsibility should a Saturday Night Live lawyer come look around.
Something tells me that SNL doesnt use a Creative Commons license with
regards to their old shows.

Of course, that could open a huge can of worms when it comes to people
using copyright music within their videos. Many people do it. I myself
have been guilty of using music I didnt own in a video. Blatant
rebroadcasting of a television program is another thing though.

Am I way off base here and is there some clause in a Blip
agreement/contract that releases them of all copyright infringments?

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Haugstrup"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:35:58 +0100, Crystal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
> > background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
> > pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
> > Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its mainly for
> > Friends and Family
> >
> > is that breaking any laws?
> >
> > I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
> > it with people??
> 
> When you buy a cd you buy a copy of the music for personal use. What
you  
> can and cannot do is governed by copyright law. Broadcasting the
music to  
> the world is not one of the things you can do. This is why I keep  
> repeating my mantra: Educate yourself. Buy a book or borrow one at the  
> library. Learn the law.
> 
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> -- 
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Re: [videoblogging] Good political videoblogs?

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua Seiden




I also like http://hoppervideo.net/, which is often (but not always) political.JS---http://more3.blogspot.com

Hi - I'm doing a "meet the vloggers" type thing in
Montreal - we
started a videoblogging group in December, and Tuesday is our second
meeting (at 7pm if there are any montreal readers...).  I'm
wondering if anyone has suggestions for good activist/political
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[videoblogging] BroadSnatch - Podcasts, vlogs and media search

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Garfield

Just saw this.

http://www.broadsnatch.com/

Is it new?

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Re: [videoblogging] Voting For Your Favorite Video

Depends on what sort of blogging tool.  If you use a system that can
create a "poll", you could just give them some choices to vote on.

Otherwise, you could just do a simple "what vlog is your favorite?"
post and tally up the responses in the comments section.

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On 1/19/06, Carolyn Sebolao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wandering how I would be able to have people vote for their
> favorite video on a video blog and is it possible.
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> What would be the best way to do this?

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[videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Andy Carvin

Hi everyone,

I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor 
man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried 
it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling 
instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the 
more interesting ones are below.

The $14 Steadycam
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the 
website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free 
instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for 
$39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov

The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical 
concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes 
and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb 
look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your 
steadicam on an airplane.

Here's the other one:

Hocast Stabilizers
http://www.hocast.com/

Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three 
different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of 
supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90 
of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include 
before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer:

http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov
http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov

(The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage 
was better.)

I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most 
intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these 
sites or others? Have you been happy with the results?

thanks,
andy

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Re: [videoblogging] BroadSnatch - Podcasts, vlogs and media search

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua Seiden




Worst name ever.JS--http://more3.blogspot.comOn 1/19/06, Steve Garfield <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Just saw this.
http://www.broadsnatch.com/Is it new?





  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: BroadSnatch - Podcasts, vlogs and media search

> http://www.broadsnatch.com/

The URL sounds like the wares of a warn out prostitute... ick.

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Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Quirk

I made the $14 one last spring, but I didn't build it right because I didn't have a vice at the time. It worked for a while, but the holes I drilled were off-center in the pipe caps, so it was off-balance and I eventually retired it and used the steel for other things.
I recommend it though, and if I ever have the need for one I'll definitely just buy a vice and make it again.I would recommend getting some handlebar grip tape, or even padded tennis racquet grip tape and applying it where you'll be touching the metal, because after a couple hours holding raw steel your hands start to hurt.
I built the longer configuration by the way, the one where you invert the attachment plate and so you can hold the camera close to the ground. I shot some cool footage of me running down the street with the camera 3 inches off the ground, but I don't know what happened to it.
AQOn 1/19/06, Andy Carvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I've been thinking about building my own camera stabilizer - a poor
man's steadicam, so to speak - and I was wondering if anyone has tried
it. I've found a few websites with instructions (or selling
instructions), with varying levels of cost and complexity. Two of the
more interesting ones are below.

The $14 Steadycam
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

The $14 Steadycam is very bare-bones, but the demo footage on the
website is pretty good. The author of the page provides free
instructions, and he'll even sell you a kit with all of the parts for
$39 plus shipping. Here are two demos of it in action:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov

The instructions and kit look very straightforward, but one practical
concern I have is the use of standard plumbing supplies, including pipes
and pipe heads. These parts give it somewhat of a T-shaped pipe-bomb
look, which could be a major headache if you plan to travel with your
steadicam on an airplane.

Here's the other one:

Hocast Stabilizers
http://www.hocast.com/

Hocast seems more sophisticated, but more costly. They have three
different models, ranging from a low-budget rig requiring $15 worth of
supplies + $13 for the instructions, to a heavy-duty rig requiring $90
of supplies +$22 for the instructions. Their video demos include
before/after footage showing how a shot improves by adding the stabilizer:

http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov
http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov

(The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage
was better.)

I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most
intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these
sites or others? Have you been happy with the results?

thanks,
andy

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acarvin (at) edc . org (until Jan 31)

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andycarvin (at) yahoo . com

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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the index page, leaving the archives intact.-VerdiOn 1/18/06, Jen Simmons <
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> what do other people think? is it better to redirect to the new site> or is it better to have a block of text that reads "this site has> moved"?I say leave all the permalink pages so that anyone who's returning to a
specific place in your old site (from a bookmark or from a link fromsomeone else's site) will still find the old content. And yes, modifythe template so the old site pages have a notice + link to the new home
page.But then also -- replace the index.htm home page with an empty redirectpage so that anyone who goes to your old home page (which is most ofyour traffic) will get automatically and elegantly sent to the new
site. You can create such a redirect index page without using Blogger-- giving you the opportunity to leave the Blogger template to do theabove description...ohwait. maybe you can't do this on blogspot... there's no way to manually
ftp a replacement index file over the blogger created index file, isthere...this would work if your blogger blog was on your own server.anyone have ideas about how to do this on blogspot?jen
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> Take your ROI and CPM and chuck that out the window. We're living in
a world where that 
> starts to mean diddly squat. 
> 
> I'll set a price, set the expectations, and the sponsor cay say yea
or nay...

Return on investment (ROI) will always have meaning, and cost per
thousand (CPM) is a benchmark to quantify the value of a
ad/sponsorship.  Setting a price without a quantitative justification
will not be accepted very well.  I can say I want $1000 per movie, but
how did I come to that number and what happens if traffic goes up or
down?  At what relative rate does the cost change?  CPM is a standard
pricing structure for advertising and most sponsors will be familar
with it.

As for the "take it or leave it" approach, that simply will not work.
 Sure I'd love to say "you better recognize" to a sponsor, but where
would that get me?  We need funding to continue to grow.  I can't
afford to shut doors in people's faces.

> Keep in mind in all this sponsorship talk, it doesn't have to be
some big-ol-honkin' 
> conglomerate... Go get free schwag from a local skate/surf shop or
something. Indie 
> people can advertise in indie media and it's still a little bit punk
rock.

I work in the industry and already get free schwag.  More importantly,
clothing and equiptment doesn't pay for hosting.

Maybe I have my head up my ass, but vlog watchers should be valueable
to sponsors (especially if they represent a niche market of mostly
young males).  Personally, I'd love to get local sponsorship to the
places we travel.  Then their business can be integrated into the
video somehow rather than the classic sponsored by logo at the
beginning and end. It would be even better to add an inteview w/ a biz
rep if they are in the industry.  Hell, that's like a full infomercial
for them and will probably be more accepted by viewers.  The last
thing we want to do is become a sell out, yet we're not afraid to
admit we're getting paid. It is a fine line.

Who knows if this will ever happen, but it sure beats the offers by
"major" networks looking to score free content for their new online
ventures.  Their offer?...  "We'll provide you with more exposure". 
HA! Thanks, but no thanks -  that increase in exposure only increases
my costs.

Oh well.  If all else fails, at least I can add my vlogs to my resume
and hope it helps land my next job.  Too bad I'm happy w/ the job I got.

The reason I brought all this up is because I see the next 3-6 months
as being a critical point in the vlogging world.  It feels do or die time.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1




I'm not sure if I'm understanding this here but it looks like you're talking about posting a videoblog with a 1920 X 1080 resolution. Which makes me think how few people have a screen capable of displaying that.-Verdi
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Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

I don't have any experience with these but...If you are using a DV camera you can probably hold it steady enough if you practice. Try different "grips" - for example you can cradle the camera in your open palms like a basket. Then move the camera around like you're doing tai ci. With some practice, this works great and it's free and doesn't take up any space in your pack.
-VerdiOn 1/19/06, Adam Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi everyone,

The $14 Steadycam
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/soccer2.mov
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/girl3.mov

Here's the other one:

Hocast Stabilizers
http://www.hocast.com/

http://www.hocast.com/Video/run.mov
http://www.hocast.com/Video/stairs.mov

(The clips are _very_ brief, though; frankly, I thought the $14 footage
was better.)

I've found a few other offers online, but these two are the most
intriguing. Has anyone tried building their own steadicam from these
sites or others? Have you been happy with the results?

thanks,
andy

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wouldnt altering the blogger template then alter the permalinks/archived posts? how could the .blogspot.com address forward to a new site but the permalinks not?On 1/19/06,
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> what do other people think? is it better to redirect to the new site> or is it better to have a block of text that reads "this site has> moved"?I say leave all the permalink pages so that anyone who's returning to a
specific place in your old site (from a bookmark or from a link fromsomeone else's site) will still find the old content. And yes, modifythe template so the old site pages have a notice + link to the new home

page.But then also -- replace the index.htm home page with an empty redirectpage so that anyone who goes to your old home page (which is most ofyour traffic) will get automatically and elegantly sent to the new
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ftp a replacement index file over the blogger created index file, isthere...this would work if your blogger blog was on your own server.anyone have ideas about how to do this on blogspot?jen

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Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???




- Yes - use Josh's pop-up thing. It rocks! - For quicktime embeds I had to turn off rich-text in WordPress 2. - Also, please people, go read the YouTube terms of service! I would never in a million years recommend them.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

� wrote:
> "I do strongly advise you slowly move your workflow into a completely
> podsafe arena..."
> 
> I've recently registered as a podcaster with podsafe music network and
> used one song in a vlog entry.
> 
> Reading the above statement made me wonder what the artists terms on
> pmn specify so here is a c/p of
> http://music.podshow.com/music/artistTerms.htm :
[snip]
> "Listener" does suggest that the intent is for the music to be used in
> an audio recording


The Podsafe terms are definitely aimed at audio, not video.

Contrast that with Magnatune, which took my suggestions and added in a 
bit for videobloggers:

   http://magnatune.com/artists/license/podcast

   Video blogs can put a credit at the end of their video of
   the form "The song 'song name' by 'artist name' used by
   permission from www.magnatune.com"

Maganatune gets it when it comes to licensing music.



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[videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

Not sure if this was mentioned in the thread or the series of links
posted, but a soda pop bottle is probably the cheapest steady cam...
and it actually works!

Go out and grab yourself a 1-liter plastic bottle of your favorite
drink.  Guzzle it down and fill it 1/4 to 1/2 full with water.  Drill
a hole in the cap, insert a washer on the inside and slide a bolt
through (make sure to get the right size/thread for your cam).  Then
tighten a nut down to the outside and screw the cap back on the
bottle.  Screw the wacky contraption into the bottom of your cam and
you're all set.

It lowers the center of gravity, which is a huge help... and the added
extra weight is easier to keep steady than a light handheld.  It also
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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress




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You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the index page, leaving the archives intact.>-VerdiYup, I just tested it on my blogspot (which I dont use for anything).Adding the meta-refresh to the head and republish ONLY the index, would do the trick it seems.



  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Garfield

I built this one if you want o come over and borrow it.

On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Andy Carvin wrote:

> The $14 Steadycam
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

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[videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Andy Carvin

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I built this one if you want o come over and borrow it.
> 
> On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Andy Carvin wrote:
> 
> > The $14 Steadycam
> > http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/
> 
> --Steve
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Thanks, Steve; I may take you up on that just to test it out. I don't
have any immediate plans for needing one, but was thinking about
having one in the equipment arsenal, just in case...

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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

Sure:

Here is my blogspot url:
http://davemeade.blogspot.com/

And here is an archive post there that does not redirect:
http://davemeade.blogspot.com/2005/12/test-post.html

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Sullivan




true, true.Eric was definately speaking from his 'personal' perspective and since he is more of a rare breed and one that can and will "brand himself" as a vehicle for marketing other brands it wont jive with someone like you and prob most vloggers right now.
but, its great to read Eric's angle on such things and he always remarks that it IS his personal experience according to the path he is on.  I think that your numbers, matt, seem fair.  admittedly, i have not done extensive research on this since the first net boom but i appreciate your insight and estimation something we can all consider for our projects.
sullOn 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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a world where that> starts to mean diddly squat.>> I'll set a price, set the expectations, and the sponsor cay say yeaor nay...Return on investment (ROI) will always have meaning, and cost per
thousand (CPM) is a benchmark to quantify the value of aad/sponsorship.  Setting a price without a quantitative justificationwill not be accepted very well.  I can say I want $1000 per movie, buthow did I come to that number and what happens if traffic goes up or
down?  At what relative rate does the cost change?  CPM is a standardpricing structure for advertising and most sponsors will be familarwith it.As for the "take it or leave it" approach, that simply will not work.
 Sure I'd love to say "you better recognize" to a sponsor, but wherewould that get me?  We need funding to continue to grow.  I can'tafford to shut doors in people's faces.> Keep in mind in all this sponsorship talk, it doesn't have to be
some big-ol-honkin'> conglomerate... Go get free schwag from a local skate/surf shop orsomething. Indie> people can advertise in indie media and it's still a little bit punkrock.I work in the industry and already get free schwag.  More importantly,
clothing and equiptment doesn't pay for hosting.Maybe I have my head up my ass, but vlog watchers should be valueableto sponsors (especially if they represent a niche market of mostlyyoung males).  Personally, I'd love to get local sponsorship to the
places we travel.  Then their business can be integrated into thevideo somehow rather than the classic sponsored by logo at thebeginning and end. It would be even better to add an inteview w/ a bizrep if they are in the industry.  Hell, that's like a full infomercial
for them and will probably be more accepted by viewers.  The lastthing we want to do is become a sell out, yet we're not afraid toadmit we're getting paid. It is a fine line.Who knows if this will ever happen, but it sure beats the offers by
"major" networks looking to score free content for their new onlineventures.  Their offer?...  "We'll provide you with more exposure".HA! Thanks, but no thanks -  that increase in exposure only increases
my costs.Oh well.  If all else fails, at least I can add my vlogs to my resumeand hope it helps land my next job.  Too bad I'm happy w/ the job I got.The reason I brought all this up is because I see the next 3-6 months
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Re: [videoblogging] Copyrights and the artist's right to control their work

Richard BF wrote:
> people like Lawrence Lessig and Creative Commons are 
> trying to fix it. You should also visit their site, and read about 
> what they're trying to do to protect culture and your rights.
> http://creativecommons.org/
> 
> Rights are good for you. My videoblog works are all Creative Commons, 
> attribution non-commercial sharealike. I have the right to allow you 
> to do whetever you like with my stuff, so long as you credit me as 
> the creator, share your works with the same allowances, and don't 
> make money off using it. I like having that right.

I'm a big fan of Creative Commons, and also like to promote it's use 
when possible. On my site, I've added a 'usage' page that goes into details:

   http://tinkernet.org/usage/

I tried to specify what my thoughts are on Attribution, Non-Commercial 
use and the Share Alike terms a bit more, because what I consider to be 
"non-commercial" might not be what others consider to be 
"non-commercial" and as I understand it, as the artist you are supposed 
to specify things like how you want the Attribution to occur, etc..

Just trying to help build the lightnet. :)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyrights and the artist's right to control their work

gmjoyce_y wrote:
> Very good post, Richard. Nicely balanced. 
> 
> I know you're not a lawyer but can you (or anyone else who wants to
> take a crack at it) tell me if I've got this right?  
> 
> Saturday Night Live or The Daily Show can show clips from TV shows 
> because they're commending on or parodying the content of those clips.  
> So comment or satire makes these copyrighted clips fair game, is that
> right?
> 
> And if SNL and Jon Stewart can do it, can't vloggers do likewise?

There is one difference though, NBC and Comedy Central have lawyers, 
lots of lawyers...

As I've said before, I don't want to be the one to test this stuff out 
in court. If you do, then feel free to do what you want, and let us know 
if they rule in your favor. :)

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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Carl Weaver

Jen, this isn't quite accurate. There are provisions for fair use and these
govern a couple things, such as what the video is being used for and how long
the video clip is that you want to copy. I am not an attorney but I used to work
in the copyright world, securing permission to reprint material. take what I am
about to say with the knowledge that I am more of an expert than many people but
certainly not an attorney.

Saying you can tape CNN off the TV and then rebroadcast it for free is like
saying you can photocopy John Grisham's new book and reprint it. It doesn't work
like that as a blanket thing. Again, for some cases you can use short snippets
but for the most part no. Charity or not. Profits, revenues, nonprofits and
charities have no sway in this matter for the most part.

And who is in the video doesn't have anything to do with it. The copyright is
owned by the person or company that created the piece. Just like the copyright
of a portrait I shoot as a photographer is owned by me, not the person I
photographed. I may give someone else permission to use the picture or not. But
if you decide to republish it without permission, we have a problem. There are
also all sorts of legalities involved with whether I have permission from the
person to use their likeness and image for certain purposes, but that person
does not own the copyright to the image without my assigning it to them.

All that being said, my philosophy is to use other sources sparingly, sometimes
treading to the other side of the legal line. However, if called out for it, I
will modify my videos to appease copyright holders. the quality of my
productions make it obvious that I am not making any money and I am not saying
anything bad about the copyright holders, so most would have no problem.
However, I do not have the right to use someone else's work simply because I
want to or because I think I should have the right.

So you are right in that we shouldn't censor ourselves, but it's good to know
what is covered by fair use, especially when doing videos professionally. If you
want the straight poop, consult an attorney.

Just my two cents. And then some.

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> On Jan 18, 2006, at 6:47 PM, nikadigital wrote:
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> >  if you are making money or doing this for charity. you must secure
> >  clearance.
> 
> This just isn't true. There are many times when you can use material  
> that is owned by others without their permission. I can do a story  
> about Home Depot, for example, use their logo, film in front of their  
> store and talk all about them without their permission. Maybe I'm  
> uncovering bad practices, and of course they might want to stop me, but  
> they can't. I can create a piece about Bush, using footage of Bush,  
> without his permission -- I can even take that footage from CNN, right  
> off the tv, without CNN's permission (I did this...  
> http://www.bushforpeace.us and distributed the piece all over).
> 
> It's called FAIR USE, and there are many many times people can use  
> footage created or owned by others, images and trademarks and public  
> appearances and such.
> 
> SO PLEASE -- let's not censor ourselves, or scare each other into not  
> doing some great work out of a misunderstanding of what we can and  
> can't do legally.
> 
> We all have a lot more in the way of rights than people are exercising  
> in this lawsuit-fearful / pro-corporate-rights and  
> anti-people-(especially-artist)-rights climate!

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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread cooper3acd

Wow - that's awesome!

I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind 
of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online 
video ("it" in a very good way).

You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
product and reach.

Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain 
your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 

Cheers,
Rob

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> We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
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> On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
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> > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
> >
> > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
> > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
website
> > and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.  
And
> > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
> >
> > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
would
> > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
does.
> >
> > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
10,000
> > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
thereafter... that
> > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
the
> > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
> >
> > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
video
> > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
sponsor
> >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
another $250
> > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
sponsorship per
> > video. (Up-front payment of course.)
> >
> > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about 
this.
> >
> > -Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Podsafe Music

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> Other than these, where else is a good place to get podsafe music?

This question comes up every now and then, so I created a wiki page for it:

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Re: [videoblogging] blogger to wordpress

My pleasure, but Verdi was the one who posted the "republish index
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> > > >
> > > > > You can replace the Blogger template and then just republish the
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> > > > >-Verdi
> > > >
> > > > Yup, I just tested it on my blogspot (which I dont use for anything).
> > > >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyrights and the artist's right to control their work

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> There is one difference though, NBC and Comedy Central have lawyers,
> lots of lawyers...

well that doesn't make their use more just ... it only means they have
greater means to prove they are are just in their use. :-)   (but I
know what you mean, I don't want to be the one that has to shell out
the $$ in order to set precedent)

The grey areas are a scary place to be ... but its your USE that
should scare you not the fact that you are an individual and not a
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[videoblogging] re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Carl Weaver

I made the $14 one from those same directions. I encountered two real problems.

1. As Adam said, it is hard to drill the holes dead-center unless you have a
vice. In fact, I would recommend a drill press as well. The casting lines in the
end caps threw off my drilling accuracy.

2. The guy at Home Depot thought I was making a bomb and freaked out a little
when I asked him which type of bit I would need to drill through a steel pipe
cap. I reassured him by saying that these are small pipes and certainly couldn't
blow anything up. Of course, that's not true but I didn't end up in Guantanamo
or anything, thank goodness.

It's a little unwieldy but it's great for movement shots. If you want to steady
a shaky hand for a still shot, it's not as good.

Have fun and don't go buying a bunch of explosives or other nitrogen-rich stuff
when you buy the parts for your steady cam thing.

Cheers,
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

can
rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that --
a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible.
yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the
idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're "promoting"
them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went
after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the
same). So - even though you may love a song, and you
include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it.

Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed
that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not
allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end
up making a profit from your work?

Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue.
brett
IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL

ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than
songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical
rights, record companies, etc).

On 1/18/06,
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On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

> Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't
> they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino?

We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canadian TV cocerage of vlogs?




Wow... that show theme description sounds SO dodgy... with the themes
of pornography and favorite sex positions?  Give me a break...Kitka

I know! Can you imagine?  A vlog about sex?  or porn? Who would conceive of such a thing?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Devlon

In a pinch a collapsed tripod does the samebut doesn't quench the thirst ;)On 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Not sure if this was mentioned in the thread or the series of links
posted, but a soda pop bottle is probably the cheapest steady cam...
and it actually works!

Go out and grab yourself a 1-liter plastic bottle of your favorite
drink. Guzzle it down and fill it 1/4 to 1/2 full with water. Drill
a hole in the cap, insert a washer on the inside and slide a bolt
through (make sure to get the right size/thread for your cam). Then
tighten a nut down to the outside and screw the cap back on the
bottle. Screw the wacky contraption into the bottom of your cam and
you're all set.

It lowers the center of gravity, which is a huge help... and the added
extra weight is easier to keep steady than a light handheld. It also
does a great job at making you look funny.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Canadian TV cocerage of vlogs?

2006-01-19 Thread Devlon

Vlogasutra, I'd subscribe.

On 1/19/06, Brett Gaylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Wow... that show theme description sounds SO dodgy... with the themes
>
> > of pornography and favorite sex positions?  Give me a break...
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Re: [videoblogging] re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Garfield

I bought the cap with pre drilled holes...

On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Carl Weaver wrote:

> 1. As Adam said, it is hard to drill the holes dead-center unless you 
> have a
> vice. In fact, I would recommend a drill press as well. The casting 
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[videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use
and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights.  All clips (and notice
I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work
in full, only in part under Fair Use) are used for news and criticism.

Go here for the Coles notes version -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Thank you and goodnight... [Elvis has left the building]
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> > can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly
just that
> > -- a promotional tool / ad.  View Askew wants them to spread as far as
> > possible.
> 
> 
> yet technically still illegal.  It would be unwise to spread the idea
> (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're "promoting" them.
> Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you -
it would
> be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same).  So  -
even though
> you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation
still
> might take issue with it.
> 
> Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) .  It could be construed
that you
> are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under
> copyright law.  What if, down the line, you do end up making a
profit from
> your work?
> 
> Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we
> should be giving advice thats untrue.
> brett
>  IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL
> 
> ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than
songs -
> there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights,
record
> companies, etc).
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this?  Wouldn't
> > > > they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino?
> > >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: experience with DIY steadicams?

2006-01-19 Thread Frank Carver

Thursday, January 19, 2006, 6:42:30 PM, Devlon wrote:

> In a pinch a collapsed tripod does the samebut doesn't quench the thirst
> ;)

Which brings up the question: does anyone know of any good ideas for
some way of steadying a camera without a tripod screw (like a lot of
small digital cameras which happen to do video)?

An unstabilised video can end up a bit unpleasant:

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[videoblogging] Murderball Trailer/Team torino blog

2006-01-19 Thread stateofgraceproductions

Hey everyone!  Please check out the Murderball Trailer and the Team
Torino Blog.  Both are great Thanks!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:56:45 +0100, Ms. Kitka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use
> and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights.  All clips (and notice
> I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work
> in full, only in part under Fair Use) are used for news and criticism.

Just to clarify (I haven't seen your videoblog). Works have to be the  
subject of the news or criticism to be considered fair use. E.g.  
background music used in a book review is not fair use - quoting the book  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Devlon

I don't think I've seen the episode with the Clerks2 reference but in
past episodes, uses of other peoples work has been used in reference to
news or critisism, no different than rocketboom's usage.On 1/19/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:56:45 +0100, Ms. Kitka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look people... I've used short clips of video and music under Fair Use
> and have not infringed on anyone's copyrights. All clips (and notice
> I use the word 'clips' because I have never used someone else's work
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Just to clarify (I haven't seen your videoblog). Works have to be the
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Google Video Downloader

2006-01-19 Thread WWWhatsup

I've submitted staight-outta-QT7 h.264 and had it accepted before now.

Have you tried it?

joly


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>> Speaking of Google Video, they seemed to have added quite a few new 
>> features including the ability to download PSP and iPod compatible 
>> formats. No rss feeds yet though. 
>> 
>> Now this has come up before, if one wants to submit video to google 
>> you have to convert your vid into one of their prefered formats. If 
>> you are a Mac user the easiest would be to submit a MOV file. But the 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread andrew michael baron

We are going to try something fun with advertising on Monday, if all  
goes well, and by then I'll have our little spiel set up to justify  
such a high CPM value. I'll send in the news then.


On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:58 AM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Take your ROI and CPM and chuck that out the window. We're living in
> a world where that
>> starts to mean diddly squat.
>>
>> I'll set a price, set the expectations, and the sponsor cay say yea
> or nay...
>
> Return on investment (ROI) will always have meaning, and cost per
> thousand (CPM) is a benchmark to quantify the value of a
> ad/sponsorship.  Setting a price without a quantitative justification
> will not be accepted very well.  I can say I want $1000 per movie, but
> how did I come to that number and what happens if traffic goes up or
> down?  At what relative rate does the cost change?  CPM is a standard
> pricing structure for advertising and most sponsors will be familar
> with it.
>
> As for the "take it or leave it" approach, that simply will not work.
>  Sure I'd love to say "you better recognize" to a sponsor, but where
> would that get me?  We need funding to continue to grow.  I can't
> afford to shut doors in people's faces.
>
>> Keep in mind in all this sponsorship talk, it doesn't have to be
> some big-ol-honkin'
>> conglomerate... Go get free schwag from a local skate/surf shop or
> something. Indie
>> people can advertise in indie media and it's still a little bit punk
> rock.
>
> I work in the industry and already get free schwag.  More importantly,
> clothing and equiptment doesn't pay for hosting.
>
> Maybe I have my head up my ass, but vlog watchers should be valueable
> to sponsors (especially if they represent a niche market of mostly
> young males).  Personally, I'd love to get local sponsorship to the
> places we travel.  Then their business can be integrated into the
> video somehow rather than the classic sponsored by logo at the
> beginning and end. It would be even better to add an inteview w/ a biz
> rep if they are in the industry.  Hell, that's like a full infomercial
> for them and will probably be more accepted by viewers.  The last
> thing we want to do is become a sell out, yet we're not afraid to
> admit we're getting paid. It is a fine line.
>
> Who knows if this will ever happen, but it sure beats the offers by
> "major" networks looking to score free content for their new online
> ventures.  Their offer?...  "We'll provide you with more exposure".
> HA! Thanks, but no thanks -  that increase in exposure only increases
> my costs.
>
> Oh well.  If all else fails, at least I can add my vlogs to my resume
> and hope it helps land my next job.  Too bad I'm happy w/ the job I  
> got.
>
> The reason I brought all this up is because I see the next 3-6 months
> as being a critical point in the vlogging world.  It feels do or  
> die time.
>
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[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Downloader

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Watkins

That stuff from Google about preferred format is probably not as
absolute as some people think. It can probably handle other formats
jsut fine, or maybe slightly slowe. The mp3 advice may even be out of
date as Google seem to have changed their system quite a lot since the
first google beta service launched.

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> I've submitted staight-outta-QT7 h.264 and had it accepted before now.
> 
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> 
> joly
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> >> Speaking of Google Video, they seemed to have added quite a few new 
> >> features including the ability to download PSP and iPod compatible 
> >> formats. No rss feeds yet though. 
> >> 
> >> Now this has come up before, if one wants to submit video to google 
> >> you have to convert your vid into one of their prefered formats. If 
> >> you are a Mac user the easiest would be to submit a MOV file. But
the 
> >> problem is that they want your audio to be encoded as MP3. 
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Bill Streeter

I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"
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>
> Wow - that's awesome!
> 
> I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind 
> of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online 
> video ("it" in a very good way).
> 
> You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
> positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
> go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
> achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
> product and reach.
> 
> Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain 
> your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
> > 
> > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
> > 
> > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
> > >
> > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
> > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
> website
> > > and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.  
> And
> > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
> > >
> > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
> would
> > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
> does.
> > >
> > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
> 10,000
> > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
> thereafter... that
> > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
> the
> > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
> > >
> > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
> video
> > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
> sponsor
> > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
> another $250
> > > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
> sponsorship per
> > > video. (Up-front payment of course.)
> > >
> > > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about 
> this.
> > >
> > > -Matt
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> > > http://leanbackvids.com
> > > http://ridertech.com
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[videoblogging] Re: sony hdr-fx1

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Watkins

I agree. The most I would ever aim for at the moment is 720P, which is
1280x720 which seems to be what nikadigital was trying. I dont know
why that didnt work, as its also 16:9 so it should really have
distorted anything.

I dont know what the situation is like in the USA, but here in the UK
a range of 720P flatscreen TVs are starting to get affordable, and so
I expect that resolution will start to get popular for some people,
though its still overkill for many people at the moment.

Even 960x540, which most people have the display resolution to show, 
doesnt tend to perform so well in a web browser, so if the intended
target is embedded browser viewing I reluctantly advise something even
smaller like 480x270 at this point in time. For downloadable version
there will be some people who would like a higher res than that
though, and that brings me back to 720P.   

Yeah so this problem with your stuff being squashed or stretched, I
dont know what the problem is. My previous advise was to make sure
that encoding software wasnt misinterpreting the aspect ratio of your
footage, by getting confused about it being 1440 pixels rather than
1920. Maybe someone who actually uses windows media stuff could have a
better idea, but I dont know how many people on this list are doing
such things witht hat camera or any other HDV camera that uses 1080i.

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> I'm not sure if I'm understanding this here but it looks like you're
talking
> about posting a videoblog with a 1920 X 1080 resolution. Which makes me
> think how few people have a screen capable of displaying that.
> -Verdi
> 
> 
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> >
> >
> >
> > next time i will try your specs 1920 x 1080.
> >
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[videoblogging] Sundance




You all know that fellow video-blogger Brian Gonzalez http://gnitseretni.blogspot.com/ (a studnet of Michael Verdi) is attending the Sundance Film Festival because the film for which he was the director of photography for was selected to be in the running right?
Pretty cool...maybe he will spread the love to all those other indie filmmakers and get them to release their stuff in vlog-form... or at least make a vlog like Four Eyed Monsters ( 
http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ )way to go Brian!-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread andrew michael baron

The section of the clip from the clerks2 crit that we used, did not have any music in it.On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote: can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're "promoting" them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it. Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work? Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc). On 1/18/06, andrew michael baron < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: > Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't > they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino? We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service .YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

THANKS!  That is a great article.

I used the "BugMeNot" extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
> video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Wow - that's awesome!
> > 
> > I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind 
> > of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online 
> > video ("it" in a very good way).
> > 
> > You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
> > positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
> > go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
> > achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
> > product and reach.
> > 
> > Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain 
> > your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Rob
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
> > > 
> > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
> > > >
> > > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
> > > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
> > website
> > > > and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.  
> > And
> > > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
> > > >
> > > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
> > would
> > > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
> > does.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
> > 10,000
> > > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
> > thereafter... that
> > > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
> > the
> > > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
> > video
> > > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
> > sponsor
> > > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
> > another $250
> > > > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
> > sponsorship per
> > > > video. (Up-front payment of course.)
> > > >
> > > > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about 
> > this.
> > > >
> > > > -Matt
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Re: [videoblogging] Sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Ted Tagami

That's great news indeed. I really like Brian's choice of quotes on
his Blogger page:

"The film of tomorrow will not be directed by civil servants of the
camera, but by artists for whom shooting a film constitutes a
wonderful and thirlling adventure...it will be enjoyable because it
will be true and new...the film of tomorrow will be an act of love."
-Francois Truffaut

Congratulations and good luck, Brian.



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> was the director of photography for was selected to be in the running right?
>
> Pretty cool...maybe he will spread the love to all those other indie
> filmmakers and get them to release their stuff in vlog-form... or at least
> make a vlog like Four Eyed Monsters (
> http://foureyedmonsters.com/video_podcast/ )
>
> way to go Brian!
>
> --
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Ted Tagami

either that or search for the google cached story:

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:Pl-QvRSEENUJ:www.tvweek.com/article.cms%3FarticleId%3D28995+ipod+muddles+the+financial+waters&hl=en

On 1/19/06, LeanBackVids.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  THANKS!  That is a great article.
>
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>
>  -Matt
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>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
>  > video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
>  >
>  > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"
>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Wow - that's awesome!
>  > >
>  > > I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those kind
>  > > of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online
>  > > video ("it" in a very good way).
>  > >
>  > > You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are
>  > > positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that
>  > > go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not
>  > > achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning,
>  > > product and reach.
>  > >
>  > > Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to maintain
>  > > your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.
>  > >
>  > > Cheers,
>  > > Rob
>  > >
>  > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
>  > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
>  > > >
>  > > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
>  > > > >
>  > > > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
>  > > > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports
>  > > website
>  > > > > and am going by what they charge for various video advertising.
>  > > And
>  > > > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
>  > > > >
>  > > > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship
>  > > would
>  > > > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie
>  > > does.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded
>  > > 10,000
>  > > > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month
>  > > thereafter... that
>  > > > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for
>  > > the
>  > > > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the
>  > > video
>  > > > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the
>  > > sponsor
>  > > > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
>  > > another $250
>  > > > > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500
>  > > sponsorship per
>  > > > > video. (Up-front payment of course.)
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel about
>  > > this.
>  > > > >
>  > > > > -Matt
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
heard of.  I'd better go check it out.

Kitka


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> THANKS!  That is a great article.
> 
> I used the "BugMeNot" extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
> http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
> 
> -Matt
> ---
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> http://leanbackvids.com
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> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet
> > video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow - that's awesome!
> > > 
> > > I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those
kind 
> > > of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online 
> > > video ("it" in a very good way).
> > > 
> > > You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are 
> > > positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that 
> > > go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not 
> > > achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning, 
> > > product and reach.
> > > 
> > > Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to
maintain 
> > > your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards. 
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Rob
> > > 
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
> > > > 
> > > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...
> > > > >
> > > > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
> > > > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports 
> > > website
> > > > > and am going by what they charge for various video
advertising.  
> > > And
> > > > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
> > > > >
> > > > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship 
> > > would
> > > > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie 
> > > does.
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded 
> > > 10,000
> > > > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month 
> > > thereafter... that
> > > > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for 
> > > the
> > > > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the 
> > > video
> > > > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the 
> > > sponsor
> > > > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and 
> > > another $250
> > > > > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500 
> > > sponsorship per
> > > > > video. (Up-front payment of course.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel
about 
> > > this.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Matt
> > > > > ---
> > > > > http://vlogmap.org
> > > > > http://leanbackvids.com
> > > > > http://ridertech.com
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> > > > >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Jen Simmons

On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:

Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its mainly for
Friends and Family

is that breaking any laws?

I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
it with people??

The answer: no one knows yet.
The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey area so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and what's not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this new world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular person" to make a movie using protected work and put it on the internet for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has ever come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, then there is no law about it yet.

Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and computers have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... but also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the rights to more and more.

Really I think there are two issues here:
what is legal, and
what is respectful.

I see no need to respect the copyright on "Happy Birthday" (which was owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights to use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was written in 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal system and their power to make as much money as possible without regard to what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together with friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to worry about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's totally ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my videoblog, I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k a year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a lawsuit BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist letter from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-profits working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating their services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great case to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these ridiculous money-grabbers!!

Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's grey as to whether or not I "have to" get permission to use someone else's work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do -- it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and not worry about "the law". If a local band is selling their first album, it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. I'd make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where people can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for me, if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find them, I'd use their music anyway. It is great exposure for them -- if Good Morning America wanted to do a spot on them, crediting them, but without paying them, I'm sure they'd be thrilled!!!

If however, I had some project going where I was going to make money -- like I'm selling videos, and I take their music, and especially don't credit them, but rather take advantage of a situation and even try to pass off their art as my own -- well then I'm doing something wrong. I say if it feels like stealing, then don't do it!! Even if you could fight off a lawsuit and win. It's still wrong.

But to your original question -- does every home-movie maker who wants to use a mainstream song off a CD for their photo slide show or movie of their kids have to worry about copyright violation?? I say no. Apply created iPhoto and iMovie to let people do this very easily, and did demonstrations of this very kind of project, and no one said, "hey you have to get Madonna's permission to use her song with those pictures of your dog". I think publishing the movie to the web is just a step further... and still should be allowed.

Again, there is no law drawing the line in the digital sand. And every record label (all 5 of them) will probably have a different policy about what to do about this. There may be some band or some label that eventually decides to do something about this and sue. But I say, bring it on -- what happened to freedom?? We have to defend our rights if we have any hope of keeping any.

jen

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

Ms. Kitka wrote:
> Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
> there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
> heard of.  I'd better go check it out.

Not familiar with the work of Leo Laporte I guess? :)

He's a smart (and likable) guy, who has been around forever, written 
books, done radio, television, blogging, podcasting, etc... Leo *is* a 
brand.

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[videoblogging] question about shameless self promotion...

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Schaap

I remember Steve Garfield mentioning once another yahoo group (?) or place for 
shameless 
self promotion...  Can't seem to find this spot. Does it excist? Is it any 
good? (I guess not, 
since I can't find it...) And how about the shameless self promotion in this 
group? Is it 
appreciated / accepted? To be honest; I'm sometimes fed up with Pjk productions 
- "It's 
worth a laugh and work friendly"  - yawn


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[videoblogging] $9200 movie @ sundance

2006-01-19 Thread Digital Buddha

Nice story on Wired about Robert Ingraham's DV shot and G4 edited
movie "Moonshine", which is premiering at Sundance...

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70031-0.html?tw=rss.index

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Sullivan




Laporte has been a TV personality for years.  
already has an established fan base etc...On 1/19/06, Ms. Kitka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's outthere getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've neverheard of.  I'd better go check it out.Kitka--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> THANKS!  That is a great article.>> I used the "BugMeNot" extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
> http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/>> -Matt> ---> http://vlogmap.org
> http://leanbackvids.com> http://ridertech.com>>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported internet> > video: 
http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995> >> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...> wrote:> > >> > > Wow - that's awesome!> > >> > > I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting thosekind> > > of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online
> > > video ("it" in a very good way).> > >> > > You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement there are> > > positive branding implications for companies that sponsor you that
> > > go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not> > > achievable for publishers who do not have your current positioning,> > > product and reach.> > >
> > > Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and tomaintain> > > your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.> > >> > > Cheers,> > > Rob
> > >> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
> > > >> > > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:> > > >> > > > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to sponsors...> > > > >
> > > > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video> > > > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major sports> > > website> > > > > and am going by what they charge for various video
advertising.> > > And> > > > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)> > > > >> > > > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the sponsorship
> > > would> > > > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the movie> > > does.> > > > >> > > > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets downloaded
> > > 10,000> > > > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month> > > thereafter... that> > > > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at $250 for
> > > the> > > > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.> > > > >> > > > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers since the
> > > video> > > > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So maybe the> > > sponsor> > > > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
> > > another $250> > > > > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500> > > sponsorship per> > > > > video. (Up-front payment of course.)> > > > >
> > > > > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feelabout> > > this.> > > > >> > > > > -Matt> > > > > ---
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

And TechTV's "The Screen Savers" had (and still has) a cult following.
 A big reason Digg.com got so big so fast was because Kevin Rose was
the "Dark Tipper" on the show.  Leo, Kevin and Patrick have all moved
on sucessfully due to the now-cancelled TV show.  Leo is well liked by
"regular" computer users and Kevin is big among the Linux/UNIX/hacker
geeks.

-Matt

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ms. Kitka wrote:
> > Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
> > there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
> > heard of.  I'd better go check it out.
> 
> Not familiar with the work of Leo Laporte I guess? :)
> 
> He's a smart (and likable) guy, who has been around forever, written 
> books, done radio, television, blogging, podcasting, etc... Leo *is* a 
> brand.
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
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[videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread Susan

Very cute :) 

And I see she has the new icon for a "feed"--the square thingy.  Neat!
  I'll have to subscribe when I get home (shh--I'm at work)

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> I can't believe I'm saying this ... it is the essance of the evil
home video
> videoblogger, perhaps worse than cat movies ... I will lose all my
hard won
> credibility  oh, yeah, now I remember, I lost that a long time
ago ...
> what a relief
> 
> Check out my adorable, perfect, grand child on my daughter's new vlog
> 
>
http://ravenesse.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-deception-watch-video-looks-can.html
> 
> 
> ... I just hope I live long enought to see the day when you other
> videobloggers have grand children ... my mother used to say that,
and she
> did ... you'll find yourself doing stuff like posting notes like
this to the
> video blog list ...
> 
> ... and leaving a comment on the video wouldn't kill you either ...
> 
> ... Richard, from the RichardsGrandDaughterShow 
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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

Remember guys, I'm Canadian... I never even heard of Adam Curry until
I was mentioned on his show a few months ago... I thought he was
related to Tim Curry or something.

I didn't really get into videoblogging because I saw it and wanted to
do it, I just did it... only now am I learning more about the community.

Kitka


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
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>
> Laporte has been a TV personality for years.
> already has an established fan base etc...
> 
> On 1/19/06, Ms. Kitka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
> > there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
> > heard of.  I'd better go check it out.
> >
> > Kitka
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > THANKS!  That is a great article.
> > >
> > > I used the "BugMeNot" extension for Firefox to avoid registering...
> > > http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > > ---
> > > http://vlogmap.org
> > > http://leanbackvids.com
> > > http://ridertech.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported
internet
> > > > video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
> > > >
> > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow - that's awesome!
> > > > >
> > > > > I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting those
> > kind
> > > > > of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to online
> > > > > video ("it" in a very good way).
> > > > >
> > > > > You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement
there are
> > > > > positive branding implications for companies that sponsor
you that
> > > > > go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are simply not
> > > > > achievable for publishers who do not have your current
positioning,
> > > > > product and reach.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to
> > maintain
> > > > > your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to
sponsors...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for video
> > > > > > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major
sports
> > > > > website
> > > > > > > and am going by what they charge for various video
> > advertising.
> > > > > And
> > > > > > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the
sponsorship
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the
movie
> > > > > does.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets
downloaded
> > > > > 10,000
> > > > > > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month
> > > > > thereafter... that
> > > > > > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at
$250 for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers
since the
> > > > > video
> > > > > > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So
maybe the
> > > > > sponsor
> > > > > > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
> > > > > another $250
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> > > > > sponsorship per
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> > > > > > >
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> > about
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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

People... THIS is why you never hear any new music being played by
crew members on Star Trek...



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:
> 
> >  Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
> >  background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
> >  pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
> >  Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its mainly for
> >  Friends and Family
> >
> >  is that breaking any laws?
> >
> >  I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
> >  it with people??
> 
> The answer: no one knows yet.
> The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be 
> intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey area 
> so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and what's 
> not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this new 
> world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular 
> person" to make a movie using protected work and put it on the internet 
> for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has ever 
> come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by 
> legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, then 
> there is no law about it yet.
> 
> Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and computers 
> have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... but 
> also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the rights 
> to more and more.
> 
> Really I think there are two issues here:
> what is legal, and
> what is respectful.
> 
> I see no need to respect the copyright on "Happy Birthday" (which was 
> owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a 
> feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights to 
> use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was written in 
> 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the 
> artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal system 
> and their power to make as much money as possible without regard to 
> what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together with 
> friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to worry 
> about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's totally 
> ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my videoblog, 
> I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the 
> wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k a 
> year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a lawsuit 
> BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist letter 
> from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-profits 
> working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating their 
> services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great case 
> to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these ridiculous 
> money-grabbers!!
> 
> Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's grey as 
> to whether or not I "have to" get permission to use someone else's 
> work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do -- 
> it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and not 
> worry about "the law". If a local band is selling their first album, 
> it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. I'd 
> make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where people 
> can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew 
> them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for me, 
> if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find them, 
> I'd use their music anyway. It is great exposure for them -- if Good 
> Morning America wanted to do a spot on them, crediting them, but 
> without paying them, I'm sure they'd be thrilled!!!
> 
> If however, I had some project going where I was going to make money -- 
> like I'm selling videos, and I take their music, and especially don't 
> credit them, but rather take advantage of a situation and even try to 
> pass off their art as my own -- well then I'm doing something wrong. I 
> say if it feels like stealing, then don't do it!! Even if you could 
> fight off a lawsuit and win. It's still wrong.
> 
> But to your original question -- does every home-movie maker who wants 
> to use a mainstream song off a CD for their photo slide show or movie 
> of their kids have to worry about copyright violation?? I say no. Apply 
> created iPhoto and iMovie to let people do this very easily, and did 
> demonstrations of this very kind of project, and no one said, "hey you 
> have to get Madonna's permission to use her song with those pictures of 
> your dog". I think publishing the movie to the web is just a step 
> further... and still sho

Re: [videoblogging] $9200 movie @ sundance




A one-time student of mine, Pablo Veliz, has his $7000 DV film "La Tragedia De Macario" at Sundance this year. Another videoblogger and student of mine, Brian Gonzalez, shot the film.Pablo's vlog: 
http://cineveliz.blogspot.com/Brian's vlog: http://gnitseretni.blogspot.com/-VerdiOn 1/19/06, 
Digital Buddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nice story on Wired about Robert Ingraham's DV shot and G4 editedmovie "Moonshine", which is premiering at Sundance...http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70031-0.html?tw=rss.index
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[videoblogging] RIAA discussion

2006-01-19 Thread Leslie Guttman

In regard to the RIAA, I think they actually do go after small fish. My 
brother was playing guitar in coffeehouses in Lexington, Ky., my 
hometown, and actually had to stop because the RIAA had come through 
and either gotten down on the artists or the coffeehouse, I can't 
remember the specifics, about covering songs. It was sort of insane.
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Mrs. Ours MA PLPC

Wow,
I guess this is my first "Two cents" post...

My humble opinion is simply this:  I will post my itty bitty vlog on the big 
world wide web... I will give credit where credit is due at all times 
providing URL's, Artist names, and core information. I will not say "I wrote 
this!" or "I made This!" if I didn't and will say who did whenever humanly 
possible.  I will also not charge people money of any kind to access or 
utilize my material or the material I share with others via my 
vlog/blog/Insert favorite form of media sharing mode here. Although I won't 
use Metallica stuff... (sorry bad cheap shot at Lars there).  If some famous 
person wants to come and take what wealth I have they're welcome to the 
beatup 68 chevy and the four kids it's all the wealth in the world I 
have.

I believe unless the big guys just get a wild hair and wanna crucify some 
poor mid-western housewife and mother of fourI'm probably safe enough 
being honestly dishonest?

Okay.. That's all I got
The end

>From: "Ms. Kitka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
>To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:02:18 -
>
>People... THIS is why you never hear any new music being played by
>crew members on Star Trek...
>
>
>
>--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:
> >
> > >  Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
> > >  background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
> > >  pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the net.
> > >  Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its mainly for
> > >  Friends and Family
> > >
> > >  is that breaking any laws?
> > >
> > >  I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and share
> > >  it with people??
> >
> > The answer: no one knows yet.
> > The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be
> > intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey area
> > so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and what's
> > not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this new
> > world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular
> > person" to make a movie using protected work and put it on the internet
> > for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has ever
> > come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by
> > legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, then
> > there is no law about it yet.
> >
> > Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and computers
> > have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... but
> > also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the rights
> > to more and more.
> >
> > Really I think there are two issues here:
> > what is legal, and
> > what is respectful.
> >
> > I see no need to respect the copyright on "Happy Birthday" (which was
> > owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a
> > feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights to
> > use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was written in
> > 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the
> > artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal system
> > and their power to make as much money as possible without regard to
> > what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together with
> > friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to worry
> > about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's totally
> > ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my videoblog,
> > I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the
> > wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k a
> > year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a lawsuit
> > BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist letter
> > from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-profits
> > working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating their
> > services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great case
> > to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these ridiculous
> > money-grabbers!!
> >
> > Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's grey as
> > to whether or not I "have to" get permission to use someone else's
> > work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do --
> > it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and not
> > worry about "the law". If a local band is selling their first album,
> > it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. I'd
> > make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where people
> > can find out where they are playing and bu

[videoblogging] My iTunes Surprise

2006-01-19 Thread Rob Parrish

This group and my wife are about the only folks who would care about
this. 

But I found that if you search iTunes's podcasts for either "video
art" or "art video" my humble vlog http://www.hoppervideo.net comes up
as the second found item.  I was truly surprised by this.  I guess
when I signed up I put those terms into some tagging system, but I
don't really remember.  

Anybody know anything about how the iTunes search engine works?  The
podcasts that get listed in the top section have bigger bars on the
"relevance" column below.

By the way, for all you Kenny G fans I just posted a little something
you'll like. ;-)

Rob
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[videoblogging] media detection using drupal?




Hi group.  I'm wondering if any drupal pros here have any
experience with media detection.  I'm coming across some issues
with Homeless Nation about PC users not having quicktime installed, and
I'm toying with doing a redirect to windows media for users that don't
have QT.  Anyone have any experience with this, or experience in
general that might translate into drupal?

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Re: [videoblogging] Advice on microphones (for loud conventions)




Kitka -
1) listen to Jan - she's a pro
2) it's generally better to seperate the mic from the camera itself so
you can get in real close.  A boom person can make sure that the
directional mic they are using is pointed in the right direction, and
doesn't limit your camera to being super close to get good sound.
3) often we use lav mics, wireless ones, when we do interviews. 
especially if we don't have a dedicated sound recordist.  these
tend to be pretty expensive, though, for good ones - but since your
stuff is only destined for the web, it doesn't need to be as high
quality as it needs to be for broadcast
4) if you DO want to buy a beachtek, I've had one kicking around
forever that I want to get rid of.  If you end up buying a new
camera that has XLR inputs, though, you won't need one.  If not,
let me know!  I'll bring it to the next meetup :)

The other advantage of having a beach tek (or a camera with XLR inputs)
is that you could have one mic that your interviewer holds, and then
another one on your subject.

cheers!
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Re: [videoblogging] media detection using drupal?

2006-01-19 Thread Joshua Kinberg

Are you sure its because ppl don't have Quicktime, or are you direct
linking to Quicktime media files and many users are browsing your site
with Internet Explorer?

See this discussion on why IE tries to sabotage Quicktime and how to
work around it:

< http://www.unmediated.org/archives/2005/10/easily_create_p.php >


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[videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread grasshopperatyourfeet

I think it's important to remember that Home video bloggers are 
perhaps not as high on vlogger ladder of credibility as perhaps 
those that show more exciting footage. This isn't a bad thing 
necessarily just seems to be a norm. Cool stuff is just not equal to 
videos of children doing child things or pets doing pet things 
unless you are a child/pet person. :-} It's the difference between 
Shock Radio and Public Radio... But I am so happy to hear that 
you adore your Grandaughter so much that you would risk your already 
lost credibility with the vloggers to do a gratuitous plug for the 
RichardsGrandaughterShow.

Love,
The Daughter
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> I can't believe I'm saying this ... it is the essance of the evil 
home video
> videoblogger, perhaps worse than cat movies ... I will lose all my 
hard won
> credibility  oh, yeah, now I remember, I lost that a long time 
ago ...
> what a relief
> 
> Check out my adorable, perfect, grand child on my daughter's new 
vlog
> 
> http://ravenesse.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-deception-watch-video-
looks-can.html
> 
> 
> ... I just hope I live long enought to see the day when you other
> videobloggers have grand children ... my mother used to say that, 
and she
> did ... you'll find yourself doing stuff like posting notes like 
this to the
> video blog list ...
> 
> ... and leaving a comment on the video wouldn't kill you either ...
> 
> ... Richard, from the RichardsGrandDaughterShow 
> 
> --
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread Joan Khoo




Amen. Family first. :)
JoanOn 1/20/06, grasshopperatyourfeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think it's important to remember that Home video bloggers areperhaps not as high on vlogger ladder of credibility as perhapsthose that show more exciting footage. This isn't a bad thingnecessarily just seems to be a norm. Cool stuff is just not equal to
videos of children doing child things or pets doing pet thingsunless you are a child/pet person. :-} It's the difference betweenShock Radio and Public Radio... But I am so happy to hear thatyou adore your Grandaughter so much that you would risk your already
lost credibility with the vloggers to do a gratuitous plug for theRichardsGrandaughterShow.Love,The Daughter--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Richard Show <
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ago ...> what a relief>> Check out my adorable, perfect, grand child on my daughter's newvlog>> http://ravenesse.blogspot.com/2006/01/great-deception-watch-video-
looks-can.html>>> ... I just hope I live long enought to see the day when you other> videobloggers have grand children ... my mother used to say that,and she> did ... you'll find yourself doing stuff like posting notes like
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Re: [videoblogging] Sundance




I just talked to Brian and Pablo (another student of mine and the director of the film). They just got into town. They're going to videoblog it all and try to have something up before they leave.Brian's vlog: 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:28:16 +0100, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for letting us know about copyright law are Australia. Anyone
> else?? Other places??

The basics of Copyright are covered in the Berne Convention. These basics  
are shared by the 160 countries who have agreed to follow the convention  
(yes, I had to look up the number). This solves many issues alone. There  
are variations from country to country of course. Variations in the extent  
of Fair Use rights (Fair Use is not as well defined in Denmark for  
example) and variations in damages (bigger in the US than in Denmark) and  
so on.

> This does bring up interesting points -- the internet is global, so how
> does the law or practices of individual countries come into play? Since
> the corporate conglomerate has become more powerful than any country
> and more rights-laden than any individual, and passes right over
> borders as if they aren't there -- how does this reality affect what we
> as artists do or don't do? Does U.S. copyright law cover the globe in a
> way, since most global corporations are run by U.S. owners (with an
> "off-shore" address to evade taxes of course)?

You can only be sued for breaking the law in the country you reside.  
Thankfully US corporations can't extend messed up American laws to my  
country (and vice versa). I have yet to hear of extraditions for civil  
suits!

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:11:00 +0100, Carl Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> And who is in the video doesn't have anything to do with it. The  
> copyright is
> owned by the person or company that created the piece. Just like the  
> copyright
> of a portrait I shoot as a photographer is owned by me, not the person I
> photographed. I may give someone else permission to use the picture or  
> not. But
> if you decide to republish it without permission, we have a problem.  
> There are
> also all sorts of legalities involved with whether I have permission  
> from the
> person to use their likeness and image for certain purposes, but that  
> person
> does not own the copyright to the image without my assigning it to them.

You're right that who is in the video doesn't have any relation to  
copyrights, but that's not the same as it doesn't matter. That's why a  
videoblogger can't just learn copyright laws, and again that's why I keep  
recommending college text books on mass media law and not just a website  
with bullet points about Fair Use.

Misappropriation laws (using another's likeness for profit) and privacy  
laws *do* matter. They just aren't copyright-related. Even if you own the  
copyright on a video it doesn't mean you can use the video for anything  
you want.

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[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

2006-01-19 Thread Bill Streeter

Yeah if you've never had cable or satelite TV or just not a certified
geek they you've likely never heard of him either. Although he is on
the Canadian version of Call for Help. But no big deal, that just
explains why he's doing so well with donations. I think it's great
that he can do this with no sponsorship. Its also interesting that his
web video stuff has as big or a bigger audiance than his TV show. 

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Ms. Kitka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Remember guys, I'm Canadian... I never even heard of Adam Curry until
> I was mentioned on his show a few months ago... I thought he was
> related to Tim Curry or something.
> 
> I didn't really get into videoblogging because I saw it and wanted to
> do it, I just did it... only now am I learning more about the community.
> 
> Kitka
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Laporte has been a TV personality for years.
> > already has an established fan base etc...
> > 
> > On 1/19/06, Ms. Kitka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, thanks... great article, indeed.  I can't believe someone's out
> > > there getting $10,000 in donations/month for a videoblog I've never
> > > heard of.  I'd better go check it out.
> > >
> > > Kitka
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > THANKS!  That is a great article.
> > > >
> > > > I used the "BugMeNot" extension for Firefox to avoid
registering...
> > > > http://roachfiend.com/archives/2005/02/07/bugmenot/
> > > >
> > > > -Matt
> > > > ---
> > > > http://vlogmap.org
> > > > http://leanbackvids.com
> > > > http://ridertech.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I found this article from TV Week about advertiser supported
> internet
> > > > > video: http://www.tvweek.com/article.cms?articleId=28995
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "cooper3acd"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow - that's awesome!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will go out on a limb here and say that you are getting
those
> > > kind
> > > > > > of cpms because you're so current and "it" in regards to
online
> > > > > > video ("it" in a very good way).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You have good viewership and as a leader of this movement
> there are
> > > > > > positive branding implications for companies that sponsor
> you that
> > > > > > go far beyond simple cpm value. Those cpm numbers are
simply not
> > > > > > achievable for publishers who do not have your current
> positioning,
> > > > > > product and reach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, your challenge is to maintain this value (and to
> > > maintain
> > > > > > your cutting edge profile) as you grow and move forwards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are talking about CPMs that are much higher, $50 to $150.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2006, at 5:55 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So all this legal talk about music brings me back to
> sponsors...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > $25-50 CPM (cost per thousand) is an average price for
video
> > > > > > > > sponsorships.  (Disclaimer: I used to work for a major
> sports
> > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > and am going by what they charge for various video
> > > advertising.
> > > > > > And
> > > > > > > > the per 1000 makes the price relative to popularity.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The big difference with RSS-based media is that the
> sponsorship
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > be embedded into the movie and exists for as long as the
> movie
> > > > > > does.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Assuming that the CPM is $25 and a single video gets
> downloaded
> > > > > > 10,000
> > > > > > > > times in the first month and 2,000 times each month
> > > > > > thereafter... that
> > > > > > > > would make the value of a single video sponsorship at
> $250 for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > first month and $50 for each month afterwards.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Of course, there is an exponential decline in viewers
> since the
> > > > > > video
> > > > > > > > gets pushed further down into the feed/archives.  So
> maybe the
> > > > > > sponsor
> > > > > > > >  only is charged for 6 months... $250 the first month and
> > > > > > another $250
> > > > > > > > for the remaining 5 months...  Bring the total to $500
> > > > > > sponsorship per
> > > > > > > > video. (Up-front payment of course.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Seems realistic to me, but wanted to check how others feel
> > > about
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Matt
> > > > > > > > -

[videoblogging] Re: Google Video Downloader

2006-01-19 Thread Crystal

I submitted a video on Google and placed it on my website at 
crystalvlogs.blogspot.com   its not much mostly a slideshows for the 
grandparents in alabama but.

I must say...it did better than I had anticipated
the worry i had was how they have to "verfiy" your submission before 
they put it on the web. With blip.tv its instantenous...i like that 
better but because of the past troubles (which have cleared up by 
themselves btw) I said well let me try this to see what happens...it 
worked. and my video was approved in about 6 hours or so. so that 
was "okay"...i will just use that as my "backup" incase when blip 
decides to give me fits again...

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>
> That stuff from Google about preferred format is probably not as
> absolute as some people think. It can probably handle other formats
> jsut fine, or maybe slightly slowe. The mp3 advice may even be out 
of
> date as Google seem to have changed their system quite a lot since 
the
> first google beta service launched.
> 
> Steve of Elbows
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I've submitted staight-outta-QT7 h.264 and had it accepted 
before now.
> > 
> > Have you tried it?
> > 
> > joly
> > 
> > 
> > > "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Speaking of Google Video, they seemed to have added quite a 
few new 
> > >> features including the ability to download PSP and iPod 
compatible 
> > >> formats. No rss feeds yet though. 
> > >> 
> > >> Now this has come up before, if one wants to submit video to 
google 
> > >> you have to convert your vid into one of their prefered 
formats. If 
> > >> you are a Mac user the easiest would be to submit a MOV file. 
But
> the 
> > >> problem is that they want your audio to be encoded as MP3. 
> > 
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[videoblogging] Re: legal rights of copyrighted material

2006-01-19 Thread Crystal

Yes I see your point and I agree with you 100 percentthe artist 
i used was Creed and they are no longer together as a group

so I dunno what that meansbut anyway...

I agree with everything you just said (sorry its been a long day!)


Crystal


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> On Jan 19, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Crystal wrote:
> 
> >  Okay but how about Music? If I publish lets say stillshots with
> >  background music of my favorite artist that goes along with the
> >  pictures...and I have the CD so its not like I stole it off the 
net.
> >  Republish on the net...so every "can" see it. But yet its 
mainly for
> >  Friends and Family
> >
> >  is that breaking any laws?
> >
> >  I mean its my CD so why can't i put MY pictures to music and 
share
> >  it with people??
> 
> The answer: no one knows yet.
> The laws regarding use of copyrighted works were written to be 
> intentionally vague. The plan was for the law to have a large grey 
area 
> so a judge could decide on a case-by-case basis what's right and 
what's 
> not. The world has changed a lot, very quickly, however, and this 
new 
> world we live in is, well, new! What does it mean for a ''regular 
> person" to make a movie using protected work and put it on the 
internet 
> for a handful people to see?? I don't think a case like that has 
ever 
> come before a court for a decision, and since the laws passed by 
> legislators and previous court cases don't deal with this issue, 
then 
> there is no law about it yet.
> 
> Meanwhile not only has the internet changed broadcasting, and 
computers 
> have broken-down barriers to entry to creating films and media... 
but 
> also corporations have taken over more and more, buying up the 
rights 
> to more and more.
> 
> Really I think there are two issues here:
> what is legal, and
> what is respectful.
> 
> I see no need to respect the copyright on "Happy Birthday" (which 
was 
> owned by AOL/Time Warner... who's got it now?) If you are making a 
> feature film to distribute in theaters, you have to buy the rights 
to 
> use the song -- and it's incredibly expensive. The song was 
written in 
> 1893 by Mildred and Patty Hill, with different words, and so the 
> artists are long gone. AOL Time Warner is just using the legal 
system 
> and their power to make as much money as possible without regard 
to 
> what the song means to us as a culture. So... if I get together 
with 
> friends and sing happy birthday in a restaurant, I'm not going to 
worry 
> about paying a fee for a public performance of a song. That's 
totally 
> ridiculous. If we videotape the moment, and I post it to my 
videoblog, 
> I am also not going to worry about it. Of course, I don't want the 
> wrath of AOL Time Warner lawyers upon me... I make less than $20k 
a 
> year, how in the world could I afford to defend myself in a 
lawsuit 
> BUT A HA! I am not alone. I'm sure if I got a seizt and desist 
letter 
> from AOL, I could contact American University and all these non-
profits 
> working on fair use and they would jump on the case, donating 
their 
> services and taking care of the thing for me. It would be a great 
case 
> to see happen, and could mean breaking the hold of these 
ridiculous 
> money-grabbers!!
> 
> Meanwhile, at the same time, there are many examples where it's 
grey as 
> to whether or not I "have to" get permission to use someone else's 
> work, but I decide I want to, because it's the right thing to do --
 
> it's the respectful thing to do. I can use my own judgment, and 
not 
> worry about "the law". If a local band is selling their first 
album, 
> it's great exposure for them if I use their song in my videoblog. 
I'd 
> make sure I credit them, and link to their band website where 
people 
> can find out where they are playing and buy their album. If I knew 
> them, I'd probably let them know / ask them if it's okay. But for 
me, 
> if I didn't know them and didn't have time / felt too shy to find 
them, 
> I'd use their music anyway. It is great exposure for them -- if 
Good 
> Morning America wanted to do a spot on them, crediting them, but 
> without paying them, I'm sure they'd be thrilled!!!
> 
> If however, I had some project going where I was going to make 
money -- 
> like I'm selling videos, and I take their music, and especially 
don't 
> credit them, but rather take advantage of a situation and even try 
to 
> pass off their art as my own -- well then I'm doing something 
wrong. I 
> say if it feels like stealing, then don't do it!! Even if you 
could 
> fight off a lawsuit and win. It's still wrong.
> 
> But to your original question -- does every home-movie maker who 
wants 
> to use a mainstream song off a CD for their photo slide show or 
movie 
> of their kids have to worry about copyright violation?? I say no. 
Apply 
> created iPhoto and iMovie to let people do this very easily, and 
did 
> demonstrations of this very kind of p

[videoblogging] Re: Sponsorships?

No, they said that Leo, Kevin and Patrick combined average in one week
what the show got in a single day.

The part I found most interesting is that Leo does not offer his
videos in iTunes because he can't handle the cost.  I wonder if that
means he doesn't have a feed or if he simply did not submit it to the
ITMS Directory.

I get sad when comparing the number of readers in iTunes to the number
of site visitors, let alone those who comment.  I wish iTunes would
take a few notes from FireANT.

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> Yeah if you've never had cable or satelite TV or just not a certified
> geek they you've likely never heard of him either. Although he is on
> the Canadian version of Call for Help. But no big deal, that just
> explains why he's doing so well with donations. I think it's great
> that he can do this with no sponsorship. Its also interesting that his
> web video stuff has as big or a bigger audiance than his TV show. 
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] media detection using drupal?




On 1/19/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you sure its because ppl don't have Quicktime, or are you directlinking to Quicktime media files and many users are browsing your sitewith Internet Explorer?
Thanks, Josh.



In this case I know certain computers don't have quicktime because I go
to the shelters that we work in and see that they don't.  Also, we
don't direct link, it's inside a drupal node.  For instance



http://homelessnation.org/en/node/442



So yeah, I guess I'm really looking for the option to re-direct to
windows media if they don't have quicktime.  Or I have to go flash. 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: my grandchild

2006-01-19 Thread BevSykes






>>I think it's important to 
remember that Home video bloggers are perhaps not as high on vlogger ladder 
of credibility as perhaps those that show more exciting footage. This isn't 
a bad thing necessarily just seems to be a norm. Cool stuff is just not 
equal to videos of children doing child things or pets doing pet things 
unless you are a child/pet person. :-} <<
 
How condescending of you.  From what I understand video blog means 
a blog that includes video.  "Credibility," in my dictionary, means 
something that is believable.  Perhaps home video bloggers have the highest 
"credibility" over those who create "cool stuff."
 
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Re: [videoblogging] media detection using drupal?

2006-01-19 Thread Kath O'Donnell




Hi Brett,

when you're posting in drupal are you using "Filtered HTML". you can
edit the content filters for this to add the extra html codes, or use
"Full HTML" or "PHP" content filters if you have them enabled instead.
depending on the code your using for redirect of course. if you have
user rights setup check that the users are able to use these extra
content filters.



I'm not sure if your question was how to write the redirect code, or
how to get drupal to use it? the above is for the latter. drupal.org
forums are pretty helpful too.

cheers

Kath
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Hi group.  I'm wondering if any drupal pros here have any
experience with media detection.  I'm coming across some issues
with Homeless Nation about PC users not having quicktime installed, and
I'm toying with doing a redirect to windows media for users that don't
have QT.  Anyone have any experience with this, or experience in
general that might translate into drupal?
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Re: [videoblogging] RIAA discussion

2006-01-19 Thread WWWhatsup



Altho the RIAA are bad I think you're falsely accusing them here.

It was ASCAP or BMI, surely?

joly

At 05:10 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:
>In regard to the RIAA, I think they actually do go after small fish. My 
>brother was playing guitar in coffeehouses in Lexington, Ky., my 
>hometown, and actually had to stop because the RIAA had come through 
>and either gotten down on the artists or the coffeehouse, I can't 
>remember the specifics, about covering songs. It was sort of insane.
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Re: [videoblogging] Freevlog to Wordpress instruction tweak???

2006-01-19 Thread Josh Wolf

While I too wouldn't recommend You Tube, their terms of service are  
actually not that offensive. Yes, you're permitting You Tube to make  
money by licensing your content in any way they choose, but if your  
video were to be widely distributed through You Tube -- many of it's  
core users would possibly be ecstatic and not bothered by the lack of  
compensation. At the same time, You Tube doesn't allow you to create  
an RSS feed of your videos -- and there are plenty of alternatives  
which better serve the videoblogging community and are free.

 From the You Tube TOS: you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non- 
exclusive, fully paid-up, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual,  
sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce,  
distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, perform and  
otherwise exploit the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube  
Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including  
without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of  
the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media  
formats and through any media channels.

Josh

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> - Yes - use Josh's pop-up thing. It rocks!
>
> - For quicktime embeds I had to turn off rich-text in WordPress 2.
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> - Also, please people, go read the YouTube terms of service! I  
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[videoblogging] using josh's pop up thing.




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: the "clerks" videoblog

2006-01-19 Thread Ronen

Clever boy.On 1/19/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The section of the clip from the clerks2 crit that we used, did not have any music in it.On Jan 19, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Brett Gaylor wrote:
can rocketboom show ads' bit -- the Clerks 2 vlogs are clearly just that -- a promotional tool / ad. View Askew
wants them to spread as far as possible. yet technically still illegal. It would be unwise to spread the idea (kitka) that its cool to use people's music if you're "promoting" them. Generally it would not be the artist themself who went after you - it would be the publisher (although these are sometimes the same). So - even though you may love a song, and you include it in your vlog, a corporation still might take issue with it.
Especially if you are popular (kitka :) ) . It could be construed that you are profiting from a use of a song that is explicitly not allowed under copyright law. What if, down the line, you do end up making a profit from your work?
Anyway, I personally dont have a problem with it, but I don't think we should be giving advice thats untrue. brett IANALIANALAIALALNALNALNALNALNANALALANALAANALNAL ALSO I think showing some QT footage is a different ball of wax than songs - there are way more layers in music (publishers, mechanical rights, record companies, etc).
On 1/18/06,
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On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:13 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote: > Does Rocketboom have the rights to use a clip from this? Wouldn't > they need the approval of both Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino?
We included a tiny portion of this work when reporting the news under the guidelines of fair use.
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[videoblogging] moblogging: seeking video service

2006-01-19 Thread Jack Olmsted

On Monday, the Sanyo a920 (broadband like speeds, Sprint TV Capable) 
cell phone arrived.

What free video sites offer moblogging (sending video from a cell 
phone to a service that posts the video to your video blog 
immediately)? 

I'm looking for something like Flickr.
I can snap a pix with a cell, email it immediately to Flickr that 
publishes the photo from Flickr to my blog. 

I want to publish the video on a third party site because Sprint 
only keeps the video for a limited time on their server.

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[videoblogging] Re: Sundance

2006-01-19 Thread JV

awesome... we are in park city too.

we probably won't have anything up until tomorrow, but we have a bunch
of stuff lined up.

www.flavorpill.net/sundance

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> I just talked to Brian and Pablo (another student of mine and the
director
> of the film). They just got into town. They're going to videoblog it
all and
> try to have something up before they leave.
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> Brian's vlog: http://gnitseretni.blogspot.com/
> Pablo's vlog: http://cineveliz.blogspot.com/
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[videoblogging] Re: moblogging: seeking video service

2006-01-19 Thread David Howell

I believe Blip offers that.

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> On Monday, the Sanyo a920 (broadband like speeds, Sprint TV Capable) 
> cell phone arrived.
> 
> What free video sites offer moblogging (sending video from a cell 
> phone to a service that posts the video to your video blog 
> immediately)? 
> 
> I'm looking for something like Flickr.
> I can snap a pix with a cell, email it immediately to Flickr that 
> publishes the photo from Flickr to my blog. 
> 
> I want to publish the video on a third party site because Sprint 
> only keeps the video for a limited time on their server.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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[videoblogging] Created IRC Channel - #vbloggers on irc.freenode.net

2006-01-19 Thread bleedxapathy




i made an irc channel for the group. i dont know if one exists already but now we have one on freenode.#vbloggers on irc.freenode.net-bxa-- i was crying my ass off long before it was cool be to be emo...


  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: using josh's pop up thing.