[videoblogging] upload a Youtube video: adding textual commentary to parody/satire a news clip?

2008-06-17 Thread B Yen
 Copyright issues

 Although a parody can be considered a derivative work under United  
 States Copyright Law, it can be protected from claims by the  
 copyright owner of the original work under the fair use doctrine,  
 which is codified in 17 USC § 107. The Supreme Court of the United  
 States stated that parody is the use of some elements of a prior  
 author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part,  
 comments on that author's works. That commentary function provides  
 some justification for use of the older work. See Campbell v. Acuff- 
 Rose Music, Inc.

 In 2001, the United States Court of Appeals, 11th Circuit, in  
 Suntrust v. Houghton Mifflin, upheld the right of Alice Randall to  
 publish a parody of Gone with the Wind called The Wind Done Gone,  
 which told the same story from the point of view of Scarlett  
 O'Hara's slaves, who were glad to be rid of her.

 Parodying music is legal in the U.K, America and Canada.




I want to upload a video clip from a news broadcast, to Youtube.  To  
avoid violating terms of use (copyright infringement), can I add some  
text for satire (commentary).  Would this parody of a copyrighted  
broadcast..work?

Isn't that how Jay Leno/NBC (or Jimmy Kimmel/ABC) can take news  
clips, air it on their comedy shows with satire.. get away with it?

This subject has come up on this list a while back.  But, I forgot  
the outcome.

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[videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The discussion about YouTube got me thinking.  I did a little tour of  
 some video sharing sites.
 
 I went to http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/ where they have a list  
 of links to all the video sharing sites they upload to.
 
 A bunch of them are now defunct.  All the predictable ones, like  
 Grouper/Crackle, Studio6 and Dabble.  Sharkle is still holding on  
 somehow.
 
 I was amazed at how dull they all are.  How limited the extra number  
 of views they offer, how limited their sense of community  networking.
 
 Above all, I was struck by the incredibly limited range of videos on  
 most of these sites.  Blip is really onto something by focussing on  
 Shows in the way that it does now.  At least it's not all bikini  
 models and sport clips.
 
 I wondered what the point of them all was.  There's no way that I'm  
 going to waste my time uploading videos to any of them, for the sake  
 of a few dozen views by people who don't care.
 
 It seems to me that the only reason these sites would interest  
 videobloggers  video artists is if they get videos in front of  
 likeminded people with whom they can connect and communicate.
 
 So perhaps it's an ability to foster community that will make the  
 difference between success and failure for these sites.   I heard  
 Vimeo has good community.  And Viddler?  Is that right?  What about  
 Daily Motion?
 
 Any others?  Does anyone else have any good experiences on any other  
 video sharing sites?
 
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv/
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog

I've seen that Vimeo has some focused groups, like the HV20 group or
Vimeo HD or one specifically focused on comedy.  Because of that, they
have people that subscribe to certain topics or filmmakers and watch
the videos and comment.  So that ends up being some decent
communities, even though it's still inside a walled garden to a
degree, because it's 'only' the people inside Vimeo AND inside that
particular group.

What you're talking about is the reason that I post my videos to blip.
 I stick to self-promotion and iTunes... not that I have a ton of
hits, haha.  The point is that the extra locations weren't useful to
me, for the reasons you stated.

Basically, they tend to depend on some gimmick to make people want to
post there, but in the long run, there's no actual traction.  The
traction comes from people bookmarking and RSSing your site, using the
videos as a back end, so it really doesn't matter where the videos are
parked, and you're not seeing much return from the community aspect of
the sites as a destination.

Bill Cammack
http://billcammack.com



[videoblogging] Re: Should Google Kill Youtube?

2008-06-17 Thread Heath
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 People want:
 
 - Professional content
 - Viral content
 - Important content
 
 Most user-gen content does not fit within these constructs.
 At least not on a consistent basis.
 And most people should not care. The Audience of 10.
 If you do care about how large of an audience you have and you do 
want to
 try and monetize, then you will need to output professional and/or 
important
 content.  You'll have to fill in the blanks here.
 
 sull

I do need to care because if all the video sharing sites go away, 
then where am I going to put my video's?  Upload to my host?  Still 
learning how to do that, I use the other services because they are 
easy and I don't have to figure MORE stuff out

Heath
http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com






[videoblogging] Re: Should Google Kill Youtube?

2008-06-17 Thread Heath
I think that is really one of the greatest failures of YouTube, how 
to deal with all those really nasty comments.  I will be honest, I 
can't for the life of me understand why more people don't do 
something about it.  Some of the stuff left as comments are vile, 
just vilemaybe it really is just a small percentage, but it 
doesn't seem like it.

Heath
http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great point.
 But I'm not sure they'd continue elsewhere - it hasn't happened so  
 far.  I think the only reason the haters are so prolific on 
Youtube  
 is that it's so easy to comment.  There's just The Box under every  
 video.  You write your shit and press send.  You'd think that that  
 ease *should* translate into great community  discussion, but it  
 doesn't.  Make people do one more thing before they press send - 
like  
 add their email or URL or a subject line, or have some kind of  
 traceable identity  profile - and it becomes too much effort to 
slap  
 someone and run away.  That's my opinion.
 I have comments approval turned on by default on all my videos on  
 YouTube.  If anyone writes anything hateful, I block them AND mark  
 them as spammers AND report them.  They should all be hunted and 
killed.
 
 
 On 16-Jun-08, at 3:28 PM, Clintus wrote:
 
 In one hand I would love for it to burn to the ground. I hate that  
 place.
 
 On the other hand though, the haters that have made a home for
 themselves there would need to seek a new place to spread their shit
 and that means into the truly great communities out there that are
 virtually hate free. That would be a sad day.
 
 So yeah, not sure where I stand on this. Great post though.
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
  
   Very instering article on cnet today
  
   http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9968220-17.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
  
   The big points are that Google overpaid for Youtube, (who didn't 
know
   that?) But the idea that they could actually dump it, because 
they
   can't figure out a way to make money off user generated video...I
   think that is a real possibility. And I fear what that would mean
   for all of the other video hosting sites if it happens.
  
   Read below..
  
   Do you remember the good ol' days of YouTube? Back when a private
   company owned it and you could post and view whatever you wanted 
up
   there and no one would say a word because, well, it was 
practically
   bankrupt and copyright owners knew they wouldn't get anything 
out of
   a lawsuit? Those were the days, weren't they?
  
   Now, after a $1.65 billion buyout by Google, YouTube is not only 
a
   veritable junkyard for all the crap we didn't watch a couple 
years
   ago, but a bloated mess that costs too much to operate, has a 
huge
   lawyer target on it, and barely incurs revenue.
  
   And to make matters worse, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, has 
no
   idea what to do about it.
  
   Speaking to The New Yorker, Schmidt said that it seemed obvious
   that Google should be able to generate significant amounts of 
money
   from YouTube, but so far, it has no idea what to do.
  
   The goal for YouTube is to build a tremendous communityIn 
the
   case of YouTube we might be wrong, he said. We have enough 
leverage
   that we have the leverage of time. We can invest for scale and 
not
   have to make money right now, he said. Hopefully our system and
   judgment is good enough if something is not going to pay out, we 
can
   change it.
  
   But is changing it really the best idea? Since Google acquired
   YouTube, the company has tried desperately to make something,
   anything, from its $1.65 billion investment, but so far, it has
   failed miserably. Of course, it thinks that 'pre- and post-roll'
   advertisements may work, but the company isn't too sure.
  
   And therein lies the rub. If Google is unsure of how it can turn 
a
   profit on YouTube and it still has no idea if it will be able to 
get
   a return on its investment, why shouldn't it cut its losses and 
do
   something drastically different?
  
   Now I know that you're probably thinking that I've lost it and my
   editor overlords will finally put me out to pasture, but think 
about
   it for a minute: why should a company that overpaid for a service
   continue to dump significant amounts of cash into it (not to 
mention
   spend millions on copyright lawsuits) if it has no chance of 
creating
   a valuable revenue stream?
  
   Obviously Schmidt is doing all he can to allay shareholder fears 
over
   the YouTube debacle, but the very fact that he said anything 
about it
   is telling. And to make matters worse, Google's ad revenue on 
YouTube
   is so low, it's not even material to the financial statements. In
   other words, if Google is making anything with YouTube, it 
doesn't
   even matter.
  
   Let's face it -- the YouTube acquisition was a major blunder and
   

[videoblogging] Re: Should Google Kill Youtube?

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Cammack
Unfortunately, the way to deal with comments on YouTube is to turn
them off. :)  Unfortunately, as we've mentioned on this group several
times, a lot of the so-called hits on youtube are from people that
DON'T like the videos.  If a video gets featured, there are a lot of
hits from people that will click any image they see on the front page
of a web site, especially if there's an attractive female on that
thumbnail.  Some people show up specifically to be griefers, so the
only way around that is to have some system where the content creator
has to specifically approve people to comment on their videos, or turn
off commenting altogether.

Bill Cammack
http://billcammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that is really one of the greatest failures of YouTube, how 
 to deal with all those really nasty comments.  I will be honest, I 
 can't for the life of me understand why more people don't do 
 something about it.  Some of the stuff left as comments are vile, 
 just vilemaybe it really is just a small percentage, but it 
 doesn't seem like it.
 
 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com
 http://heathparks.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  Great point.
  But I'm not sure they'd continue elsewhere - it hasn't happened so  
  far.  I think the only reason the haters are so prolific on 
 Youtube  
  is that it's so easy to comment.  There's just The Box under every  
  video.  You write your shit and press send.  You'd think that that  
  ease *should* translate into great community  discussion, but it  
  doesn't.  Make people do one more thing before they press send - 
 like  
  add their email or URL or a subject line, or have some kind of  
  traceable identity  profile - and it becomes too much effort to 
 slap  
  someone and run away.  That's my opinion.
  I have comments approval turned on by default on all my videos on  
  YouTube.  If anyone writes anything hateful, I block them AND mark  
  them as spammers AND report them.  They should all be hunted and 
 killed.
  
  
  On 16-Jun-08, at 3:28 PM, Clintus wrote:
  
  In one hand I would love for it to burn to the ground. I hate that  
  place.
  
  On the other hand though, the haters that have made a home for
  themselves there would need to seek a new place to spread their shit
  and that means into the truly great communities out there that are
  virtually hate free. That would be a sad day.
  
  So yeah, not sure where I stand on this. Great post though.
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
   
Very instering article on cnet today
   
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9968220-17.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
   
The big points are that Google overpaid for Youtube, (who didn't 
 know
that?) But the idea that they could actually dump it, because 
 they
can't figure out a way to make money off user generated video...I
think that is a real possibility. And I fear what that would mean
for all of the other video hosting sites if it happens.
   
Read below..
   
Do you remember the good ol' days of YouTube? Back when a private
company owned it and you could post and view whatever you wanted 
 up
there and no one would say a word because, well, it was 
 practically
bankrupt and copyright owners knew they wouldn't get anything 
 out of
a lawsuit? Those were the days, weren't they?
   
Now, after a $1.65 billion buyout by Google, YouTube is not only 
 a
veritable junkyard for all the crap we didn't watch a couple 
 years
ago, but a bloated mess that costs too much to operate, has a 
 huge
lawyer target on it, and barely incurs revenue.
   
And to make matters worse, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, has 
 no
idea what to do about it.
   
Speaking to The New Yorker, Schmidt said that it seemed obvious
that Google should be able to generate significant amounts of 
 money
from YouTube, but so far, it has no idea what to do.
   
The goal for YouTube is to build a tremendous communityIn 
 the
case of YouTube we might be wrong, he said. We have enough 
 leverage
that we have the leverage of time. We can invest for scale and 
 not
have to make money right now, he said. Hopefully our system and
judgment is good enough if something is not going to pay out, we 
 can
change it.
   
But is changing it really the best idea? Since Google acquired
YouTube, the company has tried desperately to make something,
anything, from its $1.65 billion investment, but so far, it has
failed miserably. Of course, it thinks that 'pre- and post-roll'
advertisements may work, but the company isn't too sure.
   
And therein lies the rub. If Google is unsure of how it can turn 
 a
profit on YouTube and it still has no idea if it will be able to 
 get
a return on its investment, why shouldn't it cut its losses and 
 do
something drastically 

[videoblogging] Re: Should Google Kill Youtube?

2008-06-17 Thread Heath
But here is the interesting thing, at least for me, is that most 
people seem to be willing to take all the crap, just in the HOPES 
that their video does go viral.  It's like some kind of badge or 
something.  It's weird...

Heath
http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unfortunately, the way to deal with comments on YouTube is to turn
 them off. :)  Unfortunately, as we've mentioned on this group 
several
 times, a lot of the so-called hits on youtube are from people that
 DON'T like the videos.  If a video gets featured, there are a lot of
 hits from people that will click any image they see on the front 
page
 of a web site, especially if there's an attractive female on that
 thumbnail.  Some people show up specifically to be griefers, so the
 only way around that is to have some system where the content 
creator
 has to specifically approve people to comment on their videos, or 
turn
 off commenting altogether.
 
 Bill Cammack
 http://billcammack.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
 
  I think that is really one of the greatest failures of YouTube, 
how 
  to deal with all those really nasty comments.  I will be honest, 
I 
  can't for the life of me understand why more people don't do 
  something about it.  Some of the stuff left as comments are vile, 
  just vilemaybe it really is just a small percentage, but it 
  doesn't seem like it.
  
  Heath
  http://batmangeek.com
  http://heathparks.com
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   Great point.
   But I'm not sure they'd continue elsewhere - it hasn't happened 
so  
   far.  I think the only reason the haters are so prolific on 
  Youtube  
   is that it's so easy to comment.  There's just The Box under 
every  
   video.  You write your shit and press send.  You'd think that 
that  
   ease *should* translate into great community  discussion, but 
it  
   doesn't.  Make people do one more thing before they press send -
 
  like  
   add their email or URL or a subject line, or have some kind of  
   traceable identity  profile - and it becomes too much effort 
to 
  slap  
   someone and run away.  That's my opinion.
   I have comments approval turned on by default on all my videos 
on  
   YouTube.  If anyone writes anything hateful, I block them AND 
mark  
   them as spammers AND report them.  They should all be hunted 
and 
  killed.
   
   
   On 16-Jun-08, at 3:28 PM, Clintus wrote:
   
   In one hand I would love for it to burn to the ground. I hate 
that  
   place.
   
   On the other hand though, the haters that have made a home for
   themselves there would need to seek a new place to spread their 
shit
   and that means into the truly great communities out there that 
are
   virtually hate free. That would be a sad day.
   
   So yeah, not sure where I stand on this. Great post though.
   
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ 
wrote:

 Very instering article on cnet today

 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9968220-17.html?
tag=cnetfd.mt

 The big points are that Google overpaid for Youtube, (who 
didn't 
  know
 that?) But the idea that they could actually dump it, 
because 
  they
 can't figure out a way to make money off user generated 
video...I
 think that is a real possibility. And I fear what that would 
mean
 for all of the other video hosting sites if it happens.

 Read below..

 Do you remember the good ol' days of YouTube? Back when a 
private
 company owned it and you could post and view whatever you 
wanted 
  up
 there and no one would say a word because, well, it was 
  practically
 bankrupt and copyright owners knew they wouldn't get 
anything 
  out of
 a lawsuit? Those were the days, weren't they?

 Now, after a $1.65 billion buyout by Google, YouTube is not 
only 
  a
 veritable junkyard for all the crap we didn't watch a couple 
  years
 ago, but a bloated mess that costs too much to operate, has 
a 
  huge
 lawyer target on it, and barely incurs revenue.

 And to make matters worse, Eric Schmidt, the CEO of Google, 
has 
  no
 idea what to do about it.

 Speaking to The New Yorker, Schmidt said that it seemed 
obvious
 that Google should be able to generate significant amounts 
of 
  money
 from YouTube, but so far, it has no idea what to do.

 The goal for YouTube is to build a tremendous 
communityIn 
  the
 case of YouTube we might be wrong, he said. We have enough 
  leverage
 that we have the leverage of time. We can invest for scale 
and 
  not
 have to make money right now, he said. Hopefully our system 
and
 judgment is good enough if something is not going to pay 
out, we 
  can
 change it.

 But is changing it really the best idea? Since Google 
acquired
 YouTube, the 

Re: [videoblogging] Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Lauren Galanter
I really like Vimeo in terms of features, functionality and design. Though I
use it mainly to share the small number of videos I don't want to publicly
post on my vlog (it has different levels of privacy settings, which is why I
like it). I can't say what it has to offer in terms of community, because I
haven't explored that side of it yet.
It seems to me that the best way to share your videos is still to use
something like blip to host and talk things up in comments, twitter and hope
people subscribe via rss or see your tweets.

Viddler has a nice community here in Philly, because it's homegrown. I know
a lot of people use it here who aren't vloggers but want to share videos
sometimes.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The discussion about YouTube got me thinking. I did a little tour of
 some video sharing sites.

 I went to http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/ where they have a list
 of links to all the video sharing sites they upload to.

 A bunch of them are now defunct. All the predictable ones, like
 Grouper/Crackle, Studio6 and Dabble. Sharkle is still holding on
 somehow.

 I was amazed at how dull they all are. How limited the extra number
 of views they offer, how limited their sense of community  networking.

 Above all, I was struck by the incredibly limited range of videos on
 most of these sites. Blip is really onto something by focussing on
 Shows in the way that it does now. At least it's not all bikini
 models and sport clips.

 I wondered what the point of them all was. There's no way that I'm
 going to waste my time uploading videos to any of them, for the sake
 of a few dozen views by people who don't care.

 It seems to me that the only reason these sites would interest
 videobloggers  video artists is if they get videos in front of
 likeminded people with whom they can connect and communicate.

 So perhaps it's an ability to foster community that will make the
 difference between success and failure for these sites. I heard
 Vimeo has good community. And Viddler? Is that right? What about
 Daily Motion?

 Any others? Does anyone else have any good experiences on any other
 video sharing sites?

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv/
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog

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-- 
Lauren Galanter

www.laurengalanter.com
www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
Skype: lgalanter
610-761-4435


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[videoblogging] Re: qik.com, kytetv and Rober Scoble's post on TechCrunch

2008-06-17 Thread * Jennifer Hall Goodwin *
I'm not sure about that.  All I can offer is that qik tells me the moto q
and blackjack are following the nokia n95 next.  Sprint tells me the
instinct will live stream.
 
Jennifer Goodwin
 http://www.internetgirlfriday.com/ www.internetGIRLfriday.com
 


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[videoblogging] Re: Free Beer to the person who can explain the steps of recording

2008-06-17 Thread * Jennifer Hall Goodwin *
I have no problem purchasing what I need at this point.  But it's useless to
me if no one can explain every possible setting required. Format export,
Format conversion, upload to ___ etc.  It's a long process..And lots of
people are suggesting: CamStudio, Camtasia and Replay.  None do me any good
if I don't know how to set them up before and after.
 
Cabernet is an option for payment.  I like Groth.
 
Jennifer Goodwin
 http://www.internetgirlfriday.com/ www.internetGIRLfriday.com
 


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[videoblogging] help with streched letterboxed video?

2008-06-17 Thread Lauren Galanter
At work today one of our shows was delivered but the video is distorted.
They did send it as 640x480, but it's letterboxed and the video *within*
that is streched (too wide--like how video looks with square pixels at
720x480). Almost a double-letterboxing effect.

I need to figure out what they did wrong to produce this (using FCP) so I
can tell them how to export it correctly. Unfortunately I don't know what it
was shot in, but I think it was on a pd 150.

I'm kind of at a loss and would appreciate any help. If you think you might
know I can send you a screen grab privately.

Thanks!


-- 
Lauren Galanter

www.laurengalanter.com
www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
Skype: lgalanter
610-761-4435


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Re: [videoblogging] upload a Youtube video: adding textual commentary to parody/satire a news clip?

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
By the sound of things, they don't really care too much what your  
fair use argument is - if the owner squeals, they're going to take it  
down or delete your account.  I would set up a separate Youtube  
account for any copyrighted material, so that if the account gets  
deleted, you don't lose other stuff.  Given that, as discussed in the  
other thread, there's almost never any traffic that comes to other  
videos on your channel as a result of one video getting popular, what  
have you got to lose by having multiple accounts?  In any case, the  
best way of linking videos on Youtube is not by having them on the  
same account, but by using one or two tags unique to you - like  
byenvideo, perhaps - on all your videos, so that they show up in the  
'related videos' panel.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 17-Jun-08, at 4:23 AM, B Yen wrote:

  Copyright issues
 
  Although a parody can be considered a derivative work under United
  States Copyright Law, it can be protected from claims by the
  copyright owner of the original work under the fair use doctrine,
  which is codified in 17 USC § 107. The Supreme Court of the United
  States stated that parody is the use of some elements of a prior
  author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part,
  comments on that author's works. That commentary function provides
  some justification for use of the older work. See Campbell v. Acuff-
  Rose Music, Inc.
 
  In 2001, the United States Court of Appeals, 11th Circuit, in
  Suntrust v. Houghton Mifflin, upheld the right of Alice Randall to
  publish a parody of Gone with the Wind called The Wind Done Gone,
  which told the same story from the point of view of Scarlett
  O'Hara's slaves, who were glad to be rid of her.
 
  Parodying music is legal in the U.K, America and Canada.
 
 

I want to upload a video clip from a news broadcast, to Youtube. To
avoid violating terms of use (copyright infringement), can I add some
text for satire (commentary). Would this parody of a copyrighted
broadcast..work?

Isn't that how Jay Leno/NBC (or Jimmy Kimmel/ABC) can take news
clips, air it on their comedy shows with satire.. get away with it?

This subject has come up on this list a while back. But, I forgot
the outcome.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Thanks Bill and Lauren - great replies.
I feel more attracted to Vimeo and Viddler, and less inclined to  
waste time elsewhere.

This lack of traction that you talk about, Bill, is a huge problem  
with Youtube.  Youtube is still such a popular monopoly that I'm not  
sure they see how much of a problem it really is.

If one of your videos gets popular, it just *does not* translate into  
views for your other videos.  I have one video with 150,000 views  
because it's a video of a flashmob, and *none* of those viewers go on  
to watch any of my others.

They just don't do anything to promote the producer of the video.
The idea of channels on Youtube is a joke, when you really look at it.

And they serve the producer poorly with their picture quality.  As  
IPTV progresses and people start to hook up their home entertainment  
systems to the internet to watch shows and movies, this will be  
Youtube's Achilles heel - unattractive to both producers, consumers  
and most importantly advertisers, who want and need that traction.   
And, as previously discussed, there's very little in the way of nice  
community and loyalty - especially when compared to the massive  
viewership.  Idiots.  Arrogant idiots.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv


On 17-Jun-08, at 4:39 AM, Bill Cammack wrote:

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The discussion about YouTube got me thinking. I did a little tour of
  some video sharing sites.
 
  I went to http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/ where they have a list
  of links to all the video sharing sites they upload to.
 
  A bunch of them are now defunct. All the predictable ones, like
  Grouper/Crackle, Studio6 and Dabble. Sharkle is still holding on
  somehow.
 
  I was amazed at how dull they all are. How limited the extra number
  of views they offer, how limited their sense of community   
networking.
 
  Above all, I was struck by the incredibly limited range of videos on
  most of these sites. Blip is really onto something by focussing on
  Shows in the way that it does now. At least it's not all bikini
  models and sport clips.
 
  I wondered what the point of them all was. There's no way that I'm
  going to waste my time uploading videos to any of them, for the sake
  of a few dozen views by people who don't care.
 
  It seems to me that the only reason these sites would interest
  videobloggers  video artists is if they get videos in front of
  likeminded people with whom they can connect and communicate.
 
  So perhaps it's an ability to foster community that will make the
  difference between success and failure for these sites. I heard
  Vimeo has good community. And Viddler? Is that right? What about
  Daily Motion?
 
  Any others? Does anyone else have any good experiences on any other
  video sharing sites?
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv/
  http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog

I've seen that Vimeo has some focused groups, like the HV20 group or
Vimeo HD or one specifically focused on comedy. Because of that, they
have people that subscribe to certain topics or filmmakers and watch
the videos and comment. So that ends up being some decent
communities, even though it's still inside a walled garden to a
degree, because it's 'only' the people inside Vimeo AND inside that
particular group.

What you're talking about is the reason that I post my videos to blip.
I stick to self-promotion and iTunes... not that I have a ton of
hits, haha. The point is that the extra locations weren't useful to
me, for the reasons you stated.

Basically, they tend to depend on some gimmick to make people want to
post there, but in the long run, there's no actual traction. The
traction comes from people bookmarking and RSSing your site, using the
videos as a back end, so it really doesn't matter where the videos are
parked, and you're not seeing much return from the community aspect of
the sites as a destination.

Bill Cammack
http://billcammack.com






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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Oh.  Immediately after sending that last message, I saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=233yWq7rslI

A Youtube blog entry talking about how they're already making great  
strides towards Youtube consumption in home entertainment systems.  I  
realise I'm naive in thinking that because they don't do what I want  
them to do, they must adapt.  Instead it's us who have to adapt to  
their monopolistic position  find other ways of encouraging and  
enabling the traction that Bill  I were talking about in previous  
posts on this thread.

 We've heard many users say, YouTube is the new TV!. Well, the  
 YouTube Syndication team is excited to now offer a number of  
 options to actually consume YouTube on your television sets. We're  
 also proud to have helped many leaders in the consumer electronics  
 space create YouTube experiences on TV.

 Getting YouTube right on TV is extremely challenging from both a  
 design and technology perspective. Each of our partners'  
 engineering and design teams had similar questions:

 - What would users, accustomed to a simple remote control interface  
 for their TVs, expect given their typically much richer interaction  
 options when surfing youtube.com?
 - How could the YouTube experience be personalized for TV?
 - How could the extra computing power and memory often required to  
 make this work on their devices be added effectively?
 - What were the most important YouTube features to retain, and how  
 would they translate to a 10-feet user experience?

 All these partners used the YouTube APIs to build their products.  
 One partner's summary of their experience with the APIs: The  
 YouTube API was very simple, but powerful. It enabled us to develop  
 our user interface flexibly and quickly. Music to our ears!

 Here's a quick overview of some products that enable you to access  
 YouTube from your living room...or anywhere else you may have your  
 television(s)!

 AppleTV: In June 2007 this became the first product to offer a way  
 to watch YouTube on your TV.
 Sony Bravia Internet Video Link: Last week, Sony announced the  
 general availability of YouTube content on their Bravia TVs via the  
 Internet Video Link. Some clips from the YouTube team at the event  
 are linked below. Nice tie, Brent!
 HP MediaSmart: HP announced availability of YouTube as part of the  
 HP MediaSmart platform.
 Panasonic: At CES 2008, Panasonic announced VieraCast, which allows  
 you to access YouTube directly from your TV. The device will be  
 available later this month.
 Samsung: Samsung launched their IPTV device which supports YouTube  
 (currently only available in South Korea) in early May.
 TiVo: Announced that YouTube would be available on their devices.
 Verismo: A startup in the IPTV space, has announced availability of  
 a YouTube-enabled device.

 We're excited that the YouTube APIs have enabled these products and  
 look forward to sharing information about even more products,  
 upgrades and innovations from our partners. We're determined to see  
 more devices and applications Powered by YouTube so that our  
 vision of YouTube Everywhere feels even more real to our users.  
 Head over to the API Blog to read more about where you can expect  
 to see YouTube other than youtube.com!


Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/
Creative Mobile Filmmaking
Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93



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[videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Heath
I am sure that they will adapt, but the question still remains can 
Google make money off of YT, because let's face it, they have to or 
sooner or later, it will go away.  I still think Hulu is the closest 
to getting it right from a Ad perspective, if YT can someone offer 
both the professional content with ads and the user gen content for 
viral purposesthen look out...

Heath Parks 
Media Made Easy

http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh.  Immediately after sending that last message, I saw this:
 http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=233yWq7rslI
 
 A Youtube blog entry talking about how they're already making 
great  
 strides towards Youtube consumption in home entertainment systems.  
I  
 realise I'm naive in thinking that because they don't do what I 
want  
 them to do, they must adapt.  Instead it's us who have to adapt to  
 their monopolistic position  find other ways of encouraging and  
 enabling the traction that Bill  I were talking about in previous  
 posts on this thread.
 
  We've heard many users say, YouTube is the new TV!. Well, the  
  YouTube Syndication team is excited to now offer a number of  
  options to actually consume YouTube on your television sets. 
We're  
  also proud to have helped many leaders in the consumer 
electronics  
  space create YouTube experiences on TV.
 
  Getting YouTube right on TV is extremely challenging from both a  
  design and technology perspective. Each of our partners'  
  engineering and design teams had similar questions:
 
  - What would users, accustomed to a simple remote control 
interface  
  for their TVs, expect given their typically much richer 
interaction  
  options when surfing youtube.com?
  - How could the YouTube experience be personalized for TV?
  - How could the extra computing power and memory often required 
to  
  make this work on their devices be added effectively?
  - What were the most important YouTube features to retain, and 
how  
  would they translate to a 10-feet user experience?
 
  All these partners used the YouTube APIs to build their 
products.  
  One partner's summary of their experience with the APIs: The  
  YouTube API was very simple, but powerful. It enabled us to 
develop  
  our user interface flexibly and quickly. Music to our ears!
 
  Here's a quick overview of some products that enable you to 
access  
  YouTube from your living room...or anywhere else you may have 
your  
  television(s)!
 
  AppleTV: In June 2007 this became the first product to offer a 
way  
  to watch YouTube on your TV.
  Sony Bravia Internet Video Link: Last week, Sony announced the  
  general availability of YouTube content on their Bravia TVs via 
the  
  Internet Video Link. Some clips from the YouTube team at the 
event  
  are linked below. Nice tie, Brent!
  HP MediaSmart: HP announced availability of YouTube as part of 
the  
  HP MediaSmart platform.
  Panasonic: At CES 2008, Panasonic announced VieraCast, which 
allows  
  you to access YouTube directly from your TV. The device will be  
  available later this month.
  Samsung: Samsung launched their IPTV device which supports 
YouTube  
  (currently only available in South Korea) in early May.
  TiVo: Announced that YouTube would be available on their devices.
  Verismo: A startup in the IPTV space, has announced availability 
of  
  a YouTube-enabled device.
 
  We're excited that the YouTube APIs have enabled these products 
and  
  look forward to sharing information about even more products,  
  upgrades and innovations from our partners. We're determined to 
see  
  more devices and applications Powered by YouTube so that our  
  vision of YouTube Everywhere feels even more real to our 
users.  
  Head over to the API Blog to read more about where you can 
expect  
  to see YouTube other than youtube.com!
 
 
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv/
 Creative Mobile Filmmaking
 Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

2008-06-17 Thread Lauren Galanter
Brook,

I would be so down with this, as it's one of my main interests as far as
vlogging goes--i'm not a talking-head sort of person (though I love
watchings others who are!)
a list or, like others have said, maybe a group vlog or ning community or
the like. or a forum?
might have more ideas later. feel free to IM me or email off list.

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Howdy Videoblogginglistfolk.
 I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made
 for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an
 experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would
 focus
 on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/sustainability,
 and
 anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline
 context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also
 any
 concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks.

 --
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab

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-- 
Lauren Galanter

www.laurengalanter.com
www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
Skype: lgalanter
610-761-4435


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[videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Frank Sinton
I remember back in the mid-90s, people were asking should i build my
website on Geocities or Tripod?. This feels like another one of those
discussions.

Not sure why these sites aren't trying harder to solve a core issue:
how to find video that interests me - particularly Google, since this
is core to their business. 

Fine with me though, as we keep humming along with our media search
engine and user-curated channels. Nowadays, I find new video feeds
that I like through my friends' subscriptions on Mefeedia. :) When I
want to interact, I usually go directly to the producer's vlog.

Regards,
Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Feed Me Media


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am sure that they will adapt, but the question still remains can 
 Google make money off of YT, because let's face it, they have to or 
 sooner or later, it will go away.  I still think Hulu is the closest 
 to getting it right from a Ad perspective, if YT can someone offer 
 both the professional content with ads and the user gen content for 
 viral purposesthen look out...
 
 Heath Parks 
 Media Made Easy
 
 http://batmangeek.com
 http://heathparks.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  Oh.  Immediately after sending that last message, I saw this:
  http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=233yWq7rslI
  
  A Youtube blog entry talking about how they're already making 
 great  
  strides towards Youtube consumption in home entertainment systems.  
 I  
  realise I'm naive in thinking that because they don't do what I 
 want  
  them to do, they must adapt.  Instead it's us who have to adapt to  
  their monopolistic position  find other ways of encouraging and  
  enabling the traction that Bill  I were talking about in previous  
  posts on this thread.
  
   We've heard many users say, YouTube is the new TV!. Well, the  
   YouTube Syndication team is excited to now offer a number of  
   options to actually consume YouTube on your television sets. 
 We're  
   also proud to have helped many leaders in the consumer 
 electronics  
   space create YouTube experiences on TV.
  
   Getting YouTube right on TV is extremely challenging from both a  
   design and technology perspective. Each of our partners'  
   engineering and design teams had similar questions:
  
   - What would users, accustomed to a simple remote control 
 interface  
   for their TVs, expect given their typically much richer 
 interaction  
   options when surfing youtube.com?
   - How could the YouTube experience be personalized for TV?
   - How could the extra computing power and memory often required 
 to  
   make this work on their devices be added effectively?
   - What were the most important YouTube features to retain, and 
 how  
   would they translate to a 10-feet user experience?
  
   All these partners used the YouTube APIs to build their 
 products.  
   One partner's summary of their experience with the APIs: The  
   YouTube API was very simple, but powerful. It enabled us to 
 develop  
   our user interface flexibly and quickly. Music to our ears!
  
   Here's a quick overview of some products that enable you to 
 access  
   YouTube from your living room...or anywhere else you may have 
 your  
   television(s)!
  
   AppleTV: In June 2007 this became the first product to offer a 
 way  
   to watch YouTube on your TV.
   Sony Bravia Internet Video Link: Last week, Sony announced the  
   general availability of YouTube content on their Bravia TVs via 
 the  
   Internet Video Link. Some clips from the YouTube team at the 
 event  
   are linked below. Nice tie, Brent!
   HP MediaSmart: HP announced availability of YouTube as part of 
 the  
   HP MediaSmart platform.
   Panasonic: At CES 2008, Panasonic announced VieraCast, which 
 allows  
   you to access YouTube directly from your TV. The device will be  
   available later this month.
   Samsung: Samsung launched their IPTV device which supports 
 YouTube  
   (currently only available in South Korea) in early May.
   TiVo: Announced that YouTube would be available on their devices.
   Verismo: A startup in the IPTV space, has announced availability 
 of  
   a YouTube-enabled device.
  
   We're excited that the YouTube APIs have enabled these products 
 and  
   look forward to sharing information about even more products,  
   upgrades and innovations from our partners. We're determined to 
 see  
   more devices and applications Powered by YouTube so that our  
   vision of YouTube Everywhere feels even more real to our 
 users.  
   Head over to the API Blog to read more about where you can 
 expect  
   to see YouTube other than youtube.com!
  
  
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv/
  Creative Mobile Filmmaking
  Shot, edited and sent with my Nokia N93
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

2008-06-17 Thread Adam Warner
To all of those interested in this,

I'm answering more as a web developer than a video
artist, but I wanted to reply and let you know that if you think
there's a good niche for this audience, you may want to consider
building a entire site around the idea. I can imagine a site for this
niche that would provide free videoblogs for these artists, as well as
forums, or even some community features like adding friends, etc.

If anyone is interested in having me develop a site for this, please feel free 
to contact me directly.



 
Adam W. Warner
http://indielab.org
http://wordpressmodder.org
 

 
  



- Original Message 
From: Lauren Galanter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:28:30 PM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the 
experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?


Brook,

I would be so down with this, as it's one of my main interests as far as
vlogging goes--i'm not a talking-head sort of person (though I love
watchings others who are!)
a list or, like others have said, maybe a group vlog or ning community or
the like. or a forum?
might have more ideas later. feel free to IM me or email off list.

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

   Howdy Videoblogginglistfo lk.
 I'm considering starting a list for folks making or interested in work made
 for the web (or using the web as a venue) that is coming from an
 experimental film / video art / installation direction. The list would
 focus
 on aesthetics and theory as well as tech help, economics/sustainab ility,
 and
 anything else about online cinema art and its relationship to its offline
 context. Would love to hear from anyone who would be interested and also
 any
 concerns or desires about such a list. Thanks.

 --
  _ _ _ _ ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton. com
 studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton. com/temporalab

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-- 
Lauren Galanter

www.laurengalanter. com
www.linkedin. com/in/laureng
Skype: lgalanter
610-761-4435

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[videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Heath
You know Frank brings up a good point here, the fact that Mefeedia 
has been doing a great job of video search lately.  I know I am 
guilty of not thinking about Mefeedia as much as I should.  But 
everytime David Meade shows me something that Mefeedia is doing or 
has done, I always go man that is coolWe gotta get them guys a 
publicist or something!  ;)

Heath Parks
Media Made Easy

http://batmangeek.com
http://heathparks.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I remember back in the mid-90s, people were asking should i build 
my
 website on Geocities or Tripod?. This feels like another one of 
those
 discussions.
 
 Not sure why these sites aren't trying harder to solve a core issue:
 how to find video that interests me - particularly Google, since 
this
 is core to their business. 
 
 Fine with me though, as we keep humming along with our media search
 engine and user-curated channels. Nowadays, I find new video feeds
 that I like through my friends' subscriptions on Mefeedia. :) When I
 want to interact, I usually go directly to the producer's vlog.
 
 Regards,
 Frank
 
 http://www.mefeedia.com - Feed Me Media
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
 
  I am sure that they will adapt, but the question still remains 
can 
  Google make money off of YT, because let's face it, they have to 
or 
  sooner or later, it will go away.  I still think Hulu is the 
closest 
  to getting it right from a Ad perspective, if YT can someone 
offer 
  both the professional content with ads and the user gen content 
for 
  viral purposesthen look out...
  
  Heath Parks 
  Media Made Easy
  
  http://batmangeek.com
  http://heathparks.com
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   Oh.  Immediately after sending that last message, I saw this:
   http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=233yWq7rslI
   
   A Youtube blog entry talking about how they're already making 
  great  
   strides towards Youtube consumption in home entertainment 
systems.  
  I  
   realise I'm naive in thinking that because they don't do what I 
  want  
   them to do, they must adapt.  Instead it's us who have to adapt 
to  
   their monopolistic position  find other ways of encouraging 
and  
   enabling the traction that Bill  I were talking about in 
previous  
   posts on this thread.
   
We've heard many users say, YouTube is the new TV!. Well, 
the  
YouTube Syndication team is excited to now offer a number of  
options to actually consume YouTube on your television sets. 
  We're  
also proud to have helped many leaders in the consumer 
  electronics  
space create YouTube experiences on TV.
   
Getting YouTube right on TV is extremely challenging from 
both a  
design and technology perspective. Each of our partners'  
engineering and design teams had similar questions:
   
- What would users, accustomed to a simple remote control 
  interface  
for their TVs, expect given their typically much richer 
  interaction  
options when surfing youtube.com?
- How could the YouTube experience be personalized for TV?
- How could the extra computing power and memory often 
required 
  to  
make this work on their devices be added effectively?
- What were the most important YouTube features to retain, 
and 
  how  
would they translate to a 10-feet user experience?
   
All these partners used the YouTube APIs to build their 
  products.  
One partner's summary of their experience with the 
APIs: The  
YouTube API was very simple, but powerful. It enabled us to 
  develop  
our user interface flexibly and quickly. Music to our ears!
   
Here's a quick overview of some products that enable you to 
  access  
YouTube from your living room...or anywhere else you may have 
  your  
television(s)!
   
AppleTV: In June 2007 this became the first product to offer 
a 
  way  
to watch YouTube on your TV.
Sony Bravia Internet Video Link: Last week, Sony announced 
the  
general availability of YouTube content on their Bravia TVs 
via 
  the  
Internet Video Link. Some clips from the YouTube team at the 
  event  
are linked below. Nice tie, Brent!
HP MediaSmart: HP announced availability of YouTube as part 
of 
  the  
HP MediaSmart platform.
Panasonic: At CES 2008, Panasonic announced VieraCast, which 
  allows  
you to access YouTube directly from your TV. The device will 
be  
available later this month.
Samsung: Samsung launched their IPTV device which supports 
  YouTube  
(currently only available in South Korea) in early May.
TiVo: Announced that YouTube would be available on their 
devices.
Verismo: A startup in the IPTV space, has announced 
availability 
  of  
a YouTube-enabled device.
   
We're excited that the YouTube APIs have enabled these 
products 
  and  
look forward to sharing 

[videoblogging] Re: Royalty-free, public domain music to accompany videos?

2008-06-17 Thread Leslie Guttman
Greetings - I just started posting some videos about the book I'm  
writing (see below). I was looking for some opera to accompany one of  
the videos - any suggestions on this as well as other music. Thanks -  
Leslie

Leslie Guttman
cell:  510.684.6457
fax:   510.576.1747
http://www.leslieguttman.com
Equine ER: A Year in the Life of an
Equine Vet Hospital (Eclipse Press, 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3KrRAPALc





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[videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Neil Katz
Neil Katz here, a journalist.  I have had very good experiences with
the Xacti CG65.   Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
stable on zoom, and files sizes are small.  I did an entire video
story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
report for CBS News on national TV. 

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
Judge image quality for yourself.  And keep in mind the NYT site is
playing at about half resolution.

I have purchased and returned every camera in the  Xacti line except
the CG65.  The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
picture.  And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the shot.

Battery life is poor.  Buy three batteries and a quick charger.  Use
an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries.  They run $20/each.

The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
native mp4 files into DV.  Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro.  But it doesn't
really work, trust me.

That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
footage.  So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
conversion when you come home.

As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

N

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree.  I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for  
 Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video.  I love it.  And  
 it's FANTASTIC in low light.  Better than Xacti.  But not quite so  
 good a grip.  I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot  
 - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
 
 It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras  
 I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two.  I found the  
 best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv
 
 On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
   I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and  
 plan to vlog
   and do some
   interviews from there.
   I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a  
 firewire or usb
   cable and upload
   at cafes.
   It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have  
 decent sound.
 
 the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
 it has good sound, its small.
 
 It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
 Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
 should be on most public computers.
 
 Jay
 
 -- 
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Royalty-free, public domain music to accompany videos?

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Check out
http://spinxpress.com/getmedia
Fantastic search tool developed by some people from this list, which  
allows you to search by licence, so you can find things that are  
licenced for reuse by Creative Commons, or are Public Domain.
If you don't know about Creative Commons, you should check out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons
which is much more informative than the official CC website
You could also search using sites like http://ccmixter.org/ where  
people upload CC licenced music to be shared and remixed.  But I  
haven't seen much opera or classical on these sites - which is why  
I'd think your best bet was a wider search tool like SpinXpress's  
Getmedia.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 17-Jun-08, at 1:45 PM, Leslie Guttman wrote:

Greetings - I just started posting some videos about the book I'm
writing (see below). I was looking for some opera to accompany one of
the videos - any suggestions on this as well as other music. Thanks -
Leslie

Leslie Guttman
cell: 510.684.6457
fax: 510.576.1747
http://www.leslieguttman.com
Equine ER: A Year in the Life of an
Equine Vet Hospital (Eclipse Press, 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3KrRAPALc

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[videoblogging] Re: Found the music, now editing it?

2008-06-17 Thread Leslie Guttman
Hi - back again, I found the opera, now how do I edit the MP3 file to  
get the music to start mid-way in? I'm using IMovie, Thanks - Leslie


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fax:   510.576.1747
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Re: [videoblogging] Interest in a mailing list re online cinema of the experimental/video art/etc. persuasion?

2008-06-17 Thread Brook Hinton
Hey everybody thank you so much for all the responses, I am sorry to be
tardy replying - work has been limiting my time on this - but I will respond
in more depth to everyone shortly. Thanks!


___
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film/video/audio art
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studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Found the music, now editing it?

2008-06-17 Thread Roxanne Darling
If you are using iMovie 08 - good luck.
Easier to go back to iMovie 06. Open your media panel  audio. Find the song
in iTunes and drag it over to the time line - any place will do. Then trim
it just like you would a movie clip. Then move it to align with the place
you want in the movie. There is a slider bar below the timeline bar that
lets you fade music in and out. No music fading in iMovie 08 either, I don't
think.

iMovie 06 can still be downloaded from the Apple web site.

Apple also has great tutorials on their site for making movies.

Roxanne

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Leslie Guttman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Hi - back again, I found the opera, now how do I edit the MP3 file to
 get the music to start mid-way in? I'm using IMovie, Thanks - Leslie

 
 Leslie Guttman
 cell: 510.684.6457
 fax: 510.576.1747
 http://www.leslieguttman.com
 Equine ER: A Year in the Life of an
 Equine Vet Hospital (Eclipse Press, 2009)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3KrRAPALc

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Well... aha!  Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...

If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which  
stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're  
better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas.  Vegas (which a lot  
cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your  
files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary.  This  
can save HOURS.  As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of  
footage, then you need around three hours for conversion.  WTF.  All  
because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.

But that's not all.  When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,  
after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image  
quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv  
file.  Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.

Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence  
settings to the clip, not vice versa.  For people shooting on Xactis  
or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,  
in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience.  Shoot, cut, save.

I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user.  Apple  
have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and  
amateur video.  And don't get me started on the new iMovie.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/


On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
report for CBS News on national TV.

http://video.on.nytimes.com/? 
fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
playing at about half resolution.

I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the shot.

Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.

The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
really work, trust me.

That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
conversion when you come home.

As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

N

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
  Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
  it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
  good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
  - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
 
  It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
  I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two. I found the
  best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
 
  On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
   I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
  plan to vlog
   and do some
   interviews from there.
   I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
  firewire or usb
   cable and upload
   at cafes.
   It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
  decent sound.
 
  the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
  it has good sound, its small.
 
  It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
  Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
  should be on most public computers.
 
  Jay
 
  --
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Found the music, now editing it?

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Wow, don't I feel silly now! You'd already found it.
If you're using iMovie HD, click on the audio clip in the timeline,  
move the playhead to where you want to cut it and press Command T to  
cut it.  Then click on the bit you want to delete and press delete.
If you're using iMovie 8, then I'm afraid I have no idea...

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv

On 17-Jun-08, at 2:02 PM, Leslie Guttman wrote:

Hi - back again, I found the opera, now how do I edit the MP3 file to
get the music to start mid-way in? I'm using IMovie, Thanks - Leslie


Leslie Guttman
cell: 510.684.6457
fax: 510.576.1747
http://www.leslieguttman.com
Equine ER: A Year in the Life of an
Equine Vet Hospital (Eclipse Press, 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3KrRAPALc

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Found the music, now editing it?

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
I didn't know that!  Fantastic.  I'm surprised and not surprised all  
at the same time.

On 17-Jun-08, at 2:07 PM, Roxanne Darling wrote:


iMovie 06 can still be downloaded from the Apple web site.




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Kath O'Donnell
perhaps slightly OT but try and keep the camera cool. I had one die
due to the heat - it overheated, lost all colours and then finally
even the lens motor broke. it gets really hot there and if you're
using it a lot it's easy for the camera to overheat. so get a robust
camera if you can!


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread David King
Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and have no
problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...

 If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
 stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're
 better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
 cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
 files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
 can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
 footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
 because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.

 But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
 after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
 quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
 file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.

 Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
 settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
 or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,
 in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut, save.

 I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user. Apple
 have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
 amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.

 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv/

 On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV.

 http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
 fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.

 I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
 the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the shot.

 Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.

 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.

 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.

 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

 N

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
  Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
  it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
  good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
  - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
 
  It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
  I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two. I found the
  best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
 
  On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
 
   I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
  plan to vlog
   and do some
   interviews from there.
   I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
  firewire or usb
   cable and upload
   at cafes.
   It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
  decent sound.
 
  the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
  it has good sound, its small.
 
  It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
  Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
  should be on most public computers.
 
  Jay
 
  --
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
 
 
 
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Joseph
Neil,

I'm curious, when you say you've returned everything in the 'Xacti
line' does that include the new Sanyo HD-1000?  Or does anyone else
have experience shooting with this camera?  I had the previous version
of Sanyo's HD camcorder but lost it and am about to purchase a new one
and would like to know how the new one fares.

Thanks!

Joseph Morin
CEO
www.StoryBids.com
949-679-8599




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Neil Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist.  I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65.   Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small.  I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV. 
 

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself.  And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.
 
 I have purchased and returned every camera in the  Xacti line except
 the CG65.  The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture.  And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the shot.
 
 Battery life is poor.  Buy three batteries and a quick charger.  Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries.  They run $20/each.
 
 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV.  Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro.  But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.
 
 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage.  So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.
 
 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
 
 N
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
 
  I agree.  I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for  
  Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video.  I love it.  And  
  it's FANTASTIC in low light.  Better than Xacti.  But not quite so  
  good a grip.  I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot  
  - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
  
  It produces big video files, though, compared to other little
cameras  
  I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two.  I found the  
  best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv
  
  On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
  
I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and  
  plan to vlog
and do some
interviews from there.
I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a  
  firewire or usb
cable and upload
at cafes.
It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have  
  decent sound.
  
  the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
  it has good sound, its small.
  
  It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
  Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
  should be on most public computers.
  
  Jay
  
  -- 
  http://jaydedman.com
  917 371 6790
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread B Yen
On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist.  I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65.   Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small.  I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV.

 http://video.on.nytimes.com/? 
 fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself.  And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.

review of CG6 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnwLDeYSb_8amp


 I have purchased and returned every camera in the  Xacti line except
 the CG65.  The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture.  And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the  
 shot.

 Battery life is poor.  Buy three batteries and a quick charger.  Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries.  They run $20/each.

 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV.  Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro.  But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.

I think that's what happened to me when I imported the .mpg from my  
Sony PD150 into iMovie..quality was compromised.

I have an old copy of Sony Vegas (from '05),  I will try it.


 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage.  So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.

 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

 N

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree.  I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
 Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video.  I love it.  And
 it's FANTASTIC in low light.  Better than Xacti.  But not quite so
 good a grip.  I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
 - better than the traditional camcorder grip.

 It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
 I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two.  I found the
 best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv

 On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
 plan to vlog
 and do some
 interviews from there.
 I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
 firewire or usb
 cable and upload
 at cafes.
 It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
 decent sound.

 the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
 it has good sound, its small.

 It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
 Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
 should be on most public computers.

 Jay

 -- 
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790





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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread B Yen
On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:

 Neil Katz here, a journalist.  I have had very good experiences with
 the Xacti CG65.   Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
 stable on zoom, and files sizes are small.  I did an entire video
 story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
 report for CBS News on national TV.

 http://video.on.nytimes.com/? 
 fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
 Judge image quality for yourself.  And keep in mind the NYT site is
 playing at about half resolution.

 I have purchased and returned every camera in the  Xacti line except
 the CG65.  The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
 picture.  And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the  
 shot.

Big plus here.

The PS type devices have the grab  go feature, that larger  
devices don't have

Cellphone cameras have the compactness, but not the quality (pinhole  
camera)


 Battery life is poor.  Buy three batteries and a quick charger.  Use
 an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries.  They run $20/each.

 The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
 native mp4 files into DV.  Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
 technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro.  But it doesn't
 really work, trust me.

 That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
 footage.  So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
 conversion when you come home.

 As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
 it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.

 N

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree.  I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
 Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video.  I love it.  And
 it's FANTASTIC in low light.  Better than Xacti.  But not quite so
 good a grip.  I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
 - better than the traditional camcorder grip.

 It produces big video files, though, compared to other little cameras
 I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two.  I found the
 best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv

 On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
 plan to vlog
 and do some
 interviews from there.
 I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
 firewire or usb
 cable and upload
 at cafes.
 It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
 decent sound.

 the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
 it has good sound, its small.

 It also records in AVI so a PC in an internet cafe will read them.
 Just use Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP.
 should be on most public computers.

 Jay

 -- 
 http://jaydedman.com
 917 371 6790





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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Great!  I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does  
work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say  
it's the exception.   I wonder why.  The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike  
most of the Xactis I've come across.  Are you shooting in HD or at  
640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the  
last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as  
Neil did in his message just now.  I don't know anybody with a Xacti  
who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to  
grind slowly, at worst to crash completely.   The same for non-Xacti  
ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
Rupert

On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:

Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and have no
problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

  Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
 
  If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
  stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're
  better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
  cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
  files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
  can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
  footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
  because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
 
  But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
  after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
  quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
  file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
 
  Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
  settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
  or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,
  in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,  
save.
 
  I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user. Apple
  have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
  amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv/
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
 
  Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
  the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
  stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
  story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
  report for CBS News on national TV.
 
  http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
  fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
  Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
  playing at about half resolution.
 
  I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
  the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
  picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the  
shot.
 
  Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
  an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.
 
  The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
  native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
  technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
  really work, trust me.
 
  That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
  footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
  conversion when you come home.
 
  As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
  it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
 
  N
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 
40yahoogroups.com,
  Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
   Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
   it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
   good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
   - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
  
   It produces big video files, though, compared to other little  
cameras
   I've used - so get yourself an 8GB memory card or two. I found the
   best deals for memory cards online - shops will rip you off.
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv
  
   On 12-Jun-08, at 12:48 PM, Jay dedman wrote:
  
I'm heading to India for my honeymoon and the entire summer and
   plan to vlog
and do some
interviews from there.
I *do not* plan to bring my macbook. I just want to bring a
   firewire or usb
cable and upload
at cafes.
It needs to be small, light and easy to travel with and have
   decent sound.
  
   the canon powershot is actually a great choice.
   it has good sound, its small.
 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread David King
Let's see... I usually shoot at 640X480, but sometimes choose one of the HD
settings. I have a newer Mac Book Pro (about a year old).

To get the thing on my mac, I usually put the SD card into a usb card
reader, and upload all the pics and video files together into iPhoto, then
drag the videos out that I want to use and delete the rest. I'm able to
drag/drop the video file from a folder right into the bin in FCE.

It's FCE 4.0, and it's OSX Leopard (I update it regularly).

Hope that helps!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Great! I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does
 work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say
 it's the exception. I wonder why. The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike
 most of the Xactis I've come across. Are you shooting in HD or at
 640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
 I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the
 last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as
 Neil did in his message just now. I don't know anybody with a Xacti
 who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to
 grind slowly, at worst to crash completely. The same for non-Xacti
 ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
 Rupert

 On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:

 Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and have no
 problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...

 David King
 davidleeking.com - blog
 http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

 wrote:

  Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
 
  If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
  stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion you're
  better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
  cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
  files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
  can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
  footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
  because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
 
  But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
  after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
  quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
  file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
 
  Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
  settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
  or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones, Vegas is,
  in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,
 save.
 
  I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user. Apple
  have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
  amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
 
  Rupert
  http://twittervlog.tv/
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
 
  Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
  the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
  stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
  story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot into a
  report for CBS News on national TV.
 
  http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
  fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
  Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
  playing at about half resolution.
 
  I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
  the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
  picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the
 shot.
 
  Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
  an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.
 
  The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
  native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files and
  technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
  really work, trust me.
 
  That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
  footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
  conversion when you come home.
 
  As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't get
  it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
 
  N
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com 
  videoblogging%40yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%
 40yahoogroups.com,
  Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree. I've been using a Canon Ixus 860 (European name for
   Powershot, I think) and it shoots beautiful video. I love it. And
   it's FANTASTIC in low light. Better than Xacti. But not quite so
   good a grip. I think the Xacti pistol grip is the best way to shoot
   - better than the traditional camcorder grip.
  
   It produces big video 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread Rupert
Cool!  Thank you.
Interesting.  You might have just influenced my next choice of  
Camera
Assuming it will work in final cut *pro* 4  leopard, which is what I  
have.
thanks!
i guess we should store this kind of info in the wiki.
how's the sound on the HD1a?  Does it have the problems with motor  
noise that some of the older Xactis have?

On 17-Jun-08, at 3:24 PM, David King wrote:

Let's see... I usually shoot at 640X480, but sometimes choose one of  
the HD
settings. I have a newer Mac Book Pro (about a year old).

To get the thing on my mac, I usually put the SD card into a usb card
reader, and upload all the pics and video files together into iPhoto,  
then
drag the videos out that I want to use and delete the rest. I'm able to
drag/drop the video file from a folder right into the bin in FCE.

It's FCE 4.0, and it's OSX Leopard (I update it regularly).

Hope that helps!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

  Great! I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does
  work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say
  it's the exception. I wonder why. The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike
  most of the Xactis I've come across. Are you shooting in HD or at
  640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
  I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the
  last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as
  Neil did in his message just now. I don't know anybody with a Xacti
  who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to
  grind slowly, at worst to crash completely. The same for non-Xacti
  ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
  Rupert
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:
 
  Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and  
have no
  problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...
 
  David King
  davidleeking.com - blog
  http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org
 
  wrote:
 
   Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
  
   If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
   stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion  
you're
   better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
   cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
   files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
   can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
   footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
   because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
  
   But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
   after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
   quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
   file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
  
   Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
   settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
   or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones,  
Vegas is,
   in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,
  save.
  
   I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user.  
Apple
   have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
   amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv/
  
   On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
  
   Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
   the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
   stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
   story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot  
into a
   report for CBS News on national TV.
  
   http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
   fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
   Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
   playing at about half resolution.
  
   I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line except
   the CG65. The others have better specs, but nothing has a better
   picture. And it fits in your pocket, which means you will get the
  shot.
  
   Battery life is poor. Buy three batteries and a quick charger. Use
   an online site to buy non Sanyo batteries. They run $20/each.
  
   The only negative is in order to edit you will have to convert the
   native mp4 files into DV. Sanyo says you can edit with mp4 files  
and
   technically you can import them into Final Cut Pro. But it doesn't
   really work, trust me.
  
   That conversion process will take about 1 minute per minute of
   footage. So if you shoot three hours, expect three hours of
   conversion when you come home.
  
   As an aside, working in India, if you don't have Sony, you can't  
get
   it fixed or spare parts, adapters, etc.
  
   

[videoblogging] Re: help with streched letterboxed video?

2008-06-17 Thread mjcarrasquillo2002
Lauren:

So let me understand? You have a 4:3 delivery of 16:9 footage (which
shows bars on top and bottom) and within it there is 4:3 footage being
stretched to 16:9? 

OK, basically it's like this...They need to go into the motion tab (of
the clip) in FCP and change the dimensions of the 4:3 footage itself
to make it look pillar bars in the 16:9 frame. First they should
check to see, if for some reason, the 4:3 footage had the option of
anamorphic checked in the browser by accident. Sometimes this
happens and un-checking this is the answer for it. Otherwise they will
have to manually change the dimensions in the motion tab of the clip
itself!

I added a 4:3 clip into my 16:9 timeline and made that issue happen
and here's what I got...

Anamorphic (in Browser) checked
The clips motion tab settings are:
Basic Motion
 Scale is 112.5%
Distort
  Upper Left  -320 -240
  Upper Right -320 -240
  Lower Right -320 -240
  Lower Left  -320 -240
   Aspect Ratio   -12.5

Within a 16:9 project the 4:3 clip settings SHOULD be:

Anamorphic (in Browser) UN-checked
The clips motion tab settings are:
Basic Motion
 Scale is 100%
Distort
  Upper Left  -320 -240
  Upper Right -320 -240
  Lower Right -320 -240
  Lower Left  -320 -240
   Aspect Ratio   -18.52

With this you should still have a 16:9 deliver on 4:3 (letterboxed)
and your 4:3 footage within the 16:9 frame should be Pillar Boxed.

Please let me know if you didn't understand this. I can address this
in a live session of my newsletter!

That one was free...

___
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Director | Filmmaker | Musician
michael [at] michaelcarrasquillo.com
MY SITECAST: http://www.michaelcarrasquillo.com
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lauren Galanter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At work today one of our shows was delivered but the video is distorted.
 They did send it as 640x480, but it's letterboxed and the video *within*
 that is streched (too wide--like how video looks with square pixels at
 720x480). Almost a double-letterboxing effect.
 
 I need to figure out what they did wrong to produce this (using FCP)
so I
 can tell them how to export it correctly. Unfortunately I don't know
what it
 was shot in, but I think it was on a pd 150.
 
 I'm kind of at a loss and would appreciate any help. If you think
you might
 know I can send you a screen grab privately.
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 -- 
 Lauren Galanter
 
 www.laurengalanter.com
 www.linkedin.com/in/laureng
 Skype: lgalanter
 610-761-4435
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: help with streched letterboxed video?

2008-06-17 Thread Brook Hinton
You also may be getting the double-anamorphic effect that comes from
changing anamorphic settings of a sequence after anamorphic clips are
already in (and other such scenarios where FCP's behavior is based on
relative rather than fixed changes). For this, their solution would be to
manually change the aspect ratio if the clips in the motion tab, match frame
and reedit the clips, or (as long as there isn't any other basic motion
stuff going on) just change one clip and copy-paste basic motion attributes
to the rest.
This doesn't help you now of course - what the people delivering the
material really need to do is edit anamorphic in an anamorphic sequence from
the get go, then if they want letterboxed they can nest it into  into a 4:3
sequence (or deliver 16:9 to you leaving you with all the options).

Brook




___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab


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[videoblogging] tft monitor

2008-06-17 Thread miglsd27
hey all,

slightly off topic but I guess alot of you here spend some time
looking and computer monitors so...

I´ve heard apple monitors and dell are the same, is this true? I would
like a reliable monitor as good as apples, but cheap as dells, is this
possible? I do alot of photography, so I need correct colors. Anyone
here ever went the dell way and got the apple quality?

all the best,

Miguel.



[videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Frank Sinton
Thank you, Heath!

What would mean 1000x more than publicity, though, is seeing little
+mefeedia subscribe buttons next to those +youtube buttons that are
popping up everywhere. :)

Regards,
Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Feed Me Media

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You know Frank brings up a good point here, the fact that Mefeedia 
 has been doing a great job of video search lately.  I know I am 
 guilty of not thinking about Mefeedia as much as I should.  But 
 everytime David Meade shows me something that Mefeedia is doing or 
 has done, I always go man that is coolWe gotta get them guys a 
 publicist or something!  ;)
 
 Heath Parks
 Media Made Easy
 
 http://batmangeek.com
 http://heathparks.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton frank@ 
 wrote:
 
  I remember back in the mid-90s, people were asking should i build 
 my
  website on Geocities or Tripod?. This feels like another one of 
 those
  discussions.
  
  Not sure why these sites aren't trying harder to solve a core issue:
  how to find video that interests me - particularly Google, since 
 this
  is core to their business. 
  
  Fine with me though, as we keep humming along with our media search
  engine and user-curated channels. Nowadays, I find new video feeds
  that I like through my friends' subscriptions on Mefeedia. :) When I
  want to interact, I usually go directly to the producer's vlog.
  
  Regards,
  Frank
  
  http://www.mefeedia.com - Feed Me Media
  
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote:
  
   I am sure that they will adapt, but the question still remains 
 can 
   Google make money off of YT, because let's face it, they have to 
 or 
   sooner or later, it will go away.  I still think Hulu is the 
 closest 
   to getting it right from a Ad perspective, if YT can someone 
 offer 
   both the professional content with ads and the user gen content 
 for 
   viral purposesthen look out...
   
   Heath Parks 
   Media Made Easy
   
   http://batmangeek.com
   http://heathparks.com
   
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
   
Oh.  Immediately after sending that last message, I saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=233yWq7rslI

A Youtube blog entry talking about how they're already making 
   great  
strides towards Youtube consumption in home entertainment 
 systems.  
   I  
realise I'm naive in thinking that because they don't do what I 
   want  
them to do, they must adapt.  Instead it's us who have to adapt 
 to  
their monopolistic position  find other ways of encouraging 
 and  
enabling the traction that Bill  I were talking about in 
 previous  
posts on this thread.

 We've heard many users say, YouTube is the new TV!. Well, 
 the  
 YouTube Syndication team is excited to now offer a number of  
 options to actually consume YouTube on your television sets. 
   We're  
 also proud to have helped many leaders in the consumer 
   electronics  
 space create YouTube experiences on TV.

 Getting YouTube right on TV is extremely challenging from 
 both a  
 design and technology perspective. Each of our partners'  
 engineering and design teams had similar questions:

 - What would users, accustomed to a simple remote control 
   interface  
 for their TVs, expect given their typically much richer 
   interaction  
 options when surfing youtube.com?
 - How could the YouTube experience be personalized for TV?
 - How could the extra computing power and memory often 
 required 
   to  
 make this work on their devices be added effectively?
 - What were the most important YouTube features to retain, 
 and 
   how  
 would they translate to a 10-feet user experience?

 All these partners used the YouTube APIs to build their 
   products.  
 One partner's summary of their experience with the 
 APIs: The  
 YouTube API was very simple, but powerful. It enabled us to 
   develop  
 our user interface flexibly and quickly. Music to our ears!

 Here's a quick overview of some products that enable you to 
   access  
 YouTube from your living room...or anywhere else you may have 
   your  
 television(s)!

 AppleTV: In June 2007 this became the first product to offer 
 a 
   way  
 to watch YouTube on your TV.
 Sony Bravia Internet Video Link: Last week, Sony announced 
 the  
 general availability of YouTube content on their Bravia TVs 
 via 
   the  
 Internet Video Link. Some clips from the YouTube team at the 
   event  
 are linked below. Nice tie, Brent!
 HP MediaSmart: HP announced availability of YouTube as part 
 of 
   the  
 HP MediaSmart platform.
 Panasonic: At CES 2008, Panasonic announced VieraCast, which 
   allows  
 you to access YouTube directly from your TV. The device will 
 be  
 available 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Recommendations for a small camera (Xacti or other) to shoot in India

2008-06-17 Thread David King
Neato.

I like the sound - it's got a great little internal mic. This video is a
good example - it's picking up the birds in the background (
http://davidleeking.com/etc/2008/06/13/walking-in-phoenix/) pretty well. It
gets overpowered pretty easily, so if something's loud, it WILL distort -
there's no volume knob. The HD1A (I'm guessing the HD2 or whatever the new
models' called, too) has an external mic jack, which gives a little more
control.

No, I've not heard the motor noise when zooming (though it might very well
be there - I just haven't noticed it).

Yes - we SHOULD put this stuff int he wiki - good idea!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Cool! Thank you.
 Interesting. You might have just influenced my next choice of
 Camera
 Assuming it will work in final cut *pro* 4  leopard, which is what I
 have.
 thanks!
 i guess we should store this kind of info in the wiki.
 how's the sound on the HD1a? Does it have the problems with motor
 noise that some of the older Xactis have?


 On 17-Jun-08, at 3:24 PM, David King wrote:

 Let's see... I usually shoot at 640X480, but sometimes choose one of
 the HD
 settings. I have a newer Mac Book Pro (about a year old).

 To get the thing on my mac, I usually put the SD card into a usb card
 reader, and upload all the pics and video files together into iPhoto,
 then
 drag the videos out that I want to use and delete the rest. I'm able to
 drag/drop the video file from a folder right into the bin in FCE.

 It's FCE 4.0, and it's OSX Leopard (I update it regularly).

 Hope that helps!

 David King
 davidleeking.com - blog
 davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Rupert [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org

 wrote:

  Great! I'm happy to hear that there's a Xacti MP4 file that does
  work in a Final Cut product without conversion, but I have to say
  it's the exception. I wonder why. The HD1a is an HD camera, unlike
  most of the Xactis I've come across. Are you shooting in HD or at
  640x480, and what spec of mac are you using?
  I'm not just making it up - and it's not just on my system - over the
  last year or so I've noticed a *lot* people complain about this - as
  Neil did in his message just now. I don't know anybody with a Xacti
  who's been able to make it work properly - at best it causes FCP to
  grind slowly, at worst to crash completely. The same for non-Xacti
  ps cameras  cellphones, as I said.
  Rupert
 
  On 17-Jun-08, at 2:20 PM, David King wrote:
 
  Rupert... I use a Xacti HD1A and the newest version of FCE, and
 have no
  problems whatsoever with the MP4 files. Just sayin...
 
  David King
  davidleeking.com - blog
  http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
 
  On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rupert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rupert%40fatgirlinohio.orgrupert%
 40fatgirlinohio.org

 
  wrote:
 
   Well... aha! Tying into the other thread about Macs versus PCs...
  
   If you're shooting on a Xacti (or any other camera or phone which
   stores video as MP4 files on memory cards), then in my opinion
 you're
   better off cutting on a PC with Sony Vegas. Vegas (which a lot
   cheaper than FCP but just as good for 90% of jobs) will take your
   files AS THEY ARE, with no importing or conversion necessary. This
   can save HOURS. As you say, Neil, if you have three hours of
   footage, then you need around three hours for conversion. WTF. All
   because Apple can't make FCP work with MP4 properly.
  
   But that's not all. When you convert your MP4 files for use in FCP,
   after you've waited all that time, you'll find that their image
   quality may be impaired by the conversion from 640x480 to a .dv
   file. Particularly a NTSC .dv file, which has a different ratio.
  
   Vegas cuts the files *as they are* - it will match the sequence
   settings to the clip, not vice versa. For people shooting on Xactis
   or little digital point-and-shoot cameras or mobile phones,
 Vegas is,
   in my opinion, a much more user-friendly experience. Shoot, cut,
  save.
  
   I say this as a 8-9 year user of FCP and a life-long Mac user.
 Apple
   have dropped the ball in the important area of non-DV cameras and
   amateur video. And don't get me started on the new iMovie.
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv/
  
   On 17-Jun-08, at 1:49 PM, Neil Katz wrote:
  
   Neil Katz here, a journalist. I have had very good experiences with
   the Xacti CG65. Small, cheap, shoots well in low light, and is
   stable on zoom, and files sizes are small. I did an entire video
   story for the NY Times with that camera and even snuck a shot
 into a
   report for CBS News on national TV.
  
   http://video.on.nytimes.com/?
   fr_story=74e0011bd397f3fdad54e60c3b52612d009fa8bf
   Judge image quality for yourself. And keep in mind the NYT site is
   playing at about half resolution.
  
   I have purchased and returned every camera in the Xacti line 

[videoblogging] Re: Any video sharing sites still worth the bother?

2008-06-17 Thread Bill Cammack
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Bill and Lauren - great replies.
 I feel more attracted to Vimeo and Viddler, and less inclined to  
 waste time elsewhere.

The communities there are smaller, but way more dedicated.

 This lack of traction that you talk about, Bill, is a huge problem  
 with Youtube.  Youtube is still such a popular monopoly that I'm not  
 sure they see how much of a problem it really is.
 
 If one of your videos gets popular, it just *does not* translate into  
 views for your other videos.  I have one video with 150,000 views  
 because it's a video of a flashmob, and *none* of those viewers go on  
 to watch any of my others.

That's because most of the views come from people tuning in to the
home page and clicking blindly on videos that are featured.  Even if
your video's not featured, if it becomes popular for some reason, it's
THAT VIDEO that's popular, not YOU or your genre of videos.

The analogy I'll draw is that I met someone at a party last week and
she knew who I was, but I hadn't heard of her before.  When I went
home and googled her, I landed on an article she had written about a
party that I had attended before I met her.  I had read that article,
but I had been sent there via probably a link from twitter.  At the
time I read it, I had no connection to her at all, so I went, read the
information, didn't check any more of her posts and went about my
business.

That's how youtube works.  People search for topics, like fighting,
for instance.  If you make a video about fighting, they'll watch it
and then search for more videos about that.  On top of that, IME,
YouTube leaves open the section related videos and leaves the
section more videos from this author closed.  It's more likely that
people are going to click on some picture they see and exit your
stream than it is for them to open the more videos tab and THEN
search through the pictures.

This is also why people make sure their middle image is of a chick,
preferably showing skin.  They know that regardless of their topic,
guys are going to click on that image to see what they can get from
the chick... making their video look popular and getting them the
potential to become featured and get all those extra hits.

It's all a scam.

Bill Cammack
http://billcammack.com

 They just don't do anything to promote the producer of the video.
 The idea of channels on Youtube is a joke, when you really look at it.
 
 And they serve the producer poorly with their picture quality.  As  
 IPTV progresses and people start to hook up their home entertainment  
 systems to the internet to watch shows and movies, this will be  
 Youtube's Achilles heel - unattractive to both producers, consumers  
 and most importantly advertisers, who want and need that traction.   
 And, as previously discussed, there's very little in the way of nice  
 community and loyalty - especially when compared to the massive  
 viewership.  Idiots.  Arrogant idiots.
 
 Rupert
 http://twittervlog.tv
 
 
 On 17-Jun-08, at 4:39 AM, Bill Cammack wrote:
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert rupert@ wrote:
  
   The discussion about YouTube got me thinking. I did a little tour of
   some video sharing sites.
  
   I went to http://office.wreckandsalvage.com/ where they have a list
   of links to all the video sharing sites they upload to.
  
   A bunch of them are now defunct. All the predictable ones, like
   Grouper/Crackle, Studio6 and Dabble. Sharkle is still holding on
   somehow.
  
   I was amazed at how dull they all are. How limited the extra number
   of views they offer, how limited their sense of community   
 networking.
  
   Above all, I was struck by the incredibly limited range of videos on
   most of these sites. Blip is really onto something by focussing on
   Shows in the way that it does now. At least it's not all bikini
   models and sport clips.
  
   I wondered what the point of them all was. There's no way that I'm
   going to waste my time uploading videos to any of them, for the sake
   of a few dozen views by people who don't care.
  
   It seems to me that the only reason these sites would interest
   videobloggers  video artists is if they get videos in front of
   likeminded people with whom they can connect and communicate.
  
   So perhaps it's an ability to foster community that will make the
   difference between success and failure for these sites. I heard
   Vimeo has good community. And Viddler? Is that right? What about
   Daily Motion?
  
   Any others? Does anyone else have any good experiences on any other
   video sharing sites?
  
   Rupert
   http://twittervlog.tv/
   http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog
 
 I've seen that Vimeo has some focused groups, like the HV20 group or
 Vimeo HD or one specifically focused on comedy. Because of that, they
 have people that subscribe to certain topics or filmmakers and watch
 the videos and comment. So that ends up being