Re: Good color identifying apps

2015-01-06 Thread Sandratomkins
Neil,
Do keep practising, this really is an excellent app and I've used it for a few 
years now on a four for S and our six.indeed, with the six I am being 
challenged!I got so used it before and before S their size et cetera, but now 
I'm finding I am a little less accurate with six being a bigger phone with more 
latitude for  misalignment.as far as true colours are concerned, it is a moot 
point because colour really varies according to light.A shadow will not only 
change the colour to something darker but it may change it intentive make it 
more blue on more red et cetera.I have found the CamFind is best at saying blue 
red brown green rather than going into euphoric descriptions of multiple shaded 
colours.Plus, I took a shot of our Christmas tree and it said green Christmas 
tree with Christmas decorations and Santa Claus.so, for complex pictures it is 
really useful!finally, if you want to identify a product if you can get some 
label into the camera view you have a very good chance of it being identified 
but  when you take these shots you have to try and get the camera to focus 
primarily on the object you wish to identify rather than within a general 
scene. So, close-up!

good luck!
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Jan 2015, at 16:08, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Well, I just installed camfind and it is, so far, about 50% accurate. I can 
 hold the object in a stationary position at the same distance from the camera 
 and take two pictures which are not often identified as being the same color. 
 So far, my wife is still more accurate than it is, and if I didn’t have 
 sighted assistance, I still don’t know if 50% is accurate enough. I’ll play 
 some more, but, so far…
  
  
 Neal
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sandratomkins
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps
  
 Do try CamFind!it is free and, in my opinion, absolutely wonderful not only 
 colour recognition that it describing patterns et cetera.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 23:37, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Marie. I have also had lousy luck with the color identification apps for 
 the iPhone. I would suggest color Reno as a good standalone alternative. 
 Color test may be the best, but I don't think many blind people have upwards 
 of $800 to pay for the best. Julia.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have downloaded 2 free apps with less than satisfactory results. Could 
 anyone recommend a good app?
  
 
 
 Marie 
  Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone
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facebook app update to do or not to do?

2015-01-06 Thread Davy Cuppens
Hi folks
I see there is an app update for facebook. Are there folks that have
already done this update? I've become careful in doing app update
because of accessibility problems afterwards especially with the
facebook app.
Regards
Davy

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RE: facebook app update to do or not to do?

2015-01-06 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Is the Facebook app something that I will need to download from the app store?
Wouldn't mind giving this a try at some point.


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Subject: facebook app update to do or not to do?

Hi folks
I see there is an app update for facebook. Are there folks that have already 
done this update? I've become careful in doing app update because of 
accessibility problems afterwards especially with the facebook app.
Regards
Davy

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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread RobH.
I don't wanna be a cinic, but the love they like is all those billion$s that 
flows into their accounts for all this stuff.  Telling them what you do like 
is, as you say, as important, as saying what we don't.It refines the product 
to the most saleable,  and wherein lies their goal.

RobH.
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From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:07 AM
Subject: How About Sending Apple Some Love


Hello Everyone,

Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus running
8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive to commands,
the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the versatility
seemingly limitless.

I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 90s
when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually prefer to
hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like a normal-size
receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, also.  I could go
on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 Plus but doing so is not
the purpose of this post.

Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now using
the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software GPS
navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T Navigator.


Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a level
of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides cross-street
announcements that sighted travelers do not require.

Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their iOS
Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge that
unlike so many other mapping services, they did not forget those of us who
are blind or low vision.

At a time when so many of us, humans that is, are so fast to point out flaws
and so slow to offer compliments, I wanted Apple to know that I owe a great
deal of my ever-increasing independence to their consideration and efforts.

So, the reason I am posting is to invite you to send Apple some love by
sending in some positive feedback about whatever you like about their
products.  For example, today I submitted comments about how much I am truly
enjoying the iOS 8.1.2 Apple Maps app via VoiceOver.

You may send Apple feedback via it's feedback portal at:
http://www.apple.com/feedback

Let's All Make a Joyful Noise This Year.

Mark

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Re: IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text

2015-01-06 Thread RobH.
iOs always seems to delete to the left.  Cursor is always beyond the last 
item read, pretty well regardless of direction.  I mean,  if you're flicking 
down to work along the text, the last word or letter will then be behind, or 
left of the cursor.  If you flick up to work back through the text, the 
cursor will be to the left of the last thing spoken.  That is more 
comnfusing when you're trying to back up to correct it by deleting 
something. This can perhaps be proved if you double tap on a text field and 
it says - start of text, or end of text.  Go to start of text, cursor should 
be against the end and thus, left of the first character.  Try delete from 
there, it shouldn't delete anything as there is, well, nothing to the left 
of that point.
I used to find navigation confusing when you flick up and down to wiggle the 
cursor  either way and it seems to repeat the same word or character.  But 
it would if it says what it skips over to move to the left, or right of it.

RobH.

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From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) steven.hi...@nhs.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:47 AM
Subject: IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text


Hello friends,

I wonder if someone is able to confirm something quickly for me please?
I have been practicing with a text message open in the edit field and 
flicking around the message to edit it but I can's seem to make any logic on 
where the cursur lands and when you click delete on the keyboard, exactly 
what it is going to delete if this makes any sense?
On my PC, the cursor goes in front of the letter that I will delete when 
pressing backspace and if I press delete, it  will delete the character that 
I am on but VO seems to do it differently on an Apple device?

Many thanks in anticipation,

Steve.




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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said that 
though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative 
in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably used it 
too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going through 
the use of Apple maps?
The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained 
about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i 
figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it is 
now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
/Krister

 6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus running
 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive to commands,
 the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the versatility
 seemingly limitless.
 
 I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 90s
 when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually prefer to
 hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like a normal-size
 receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, also.  I could go
 on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 Plus but doing so is not
 the purpose of this post.
 
 Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now using
 the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software GPS
 navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T Navigator.
 
 
 Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a level
 of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides cross-street
 announcements that sighted travelers do not require.
 
 Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their iOS
 Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge that
 unlike so many other mapping services, they did not forget those of us who
 are blind or low vision.
 
 At a time when so many of us, humans that is, are so fast to point out flaws
 and so slow to offer compliments, I wanted Apple to know that I owe a great
 deal of my ever-increasing independence to their consideration and efforts.
 
 So, the reason I am posting is to invite you to send Apple some love by
 sending in some positive feedback about whatever you like about their
 products.  For example, today I submitted comments about how much I am truly
 enjoying the iOS 8.1.2 Apple Maps app via VoiceOver.
 
 You may send Apple feedback via it's feedback portal at:
 http://www.apple.com/feedback
 
 Let's All Make a Joyful Noise This Year.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Texting Multiple Recipients On An IPhone 5s and IO#S 8.1.2

2015-01-06 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sorry, not sure what you mean about the group message in the message app?


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Sent: 05 January 2015 14:45
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Subject: Re: Texting Multiple Recipients On An IPhone 5s and IO#S 8.1.2

Repeat the same steps, but access the group message on the messages app when 
needed. Just do not delete the conversation.

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On Jan 5, 2015, at 3:10 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
steven.hi...@nhs.netmailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:
Thanks, that is really useful, a much quicker way.
I was kinda hoping that you could just go in to a new message and then add 
recipient in some way, just three finger tap down through your contacts and 
double click the ones that you want to add them to the recipient box without 
going back to the top of the list if that makes sense.
Really difficult to explain.
Is there also a way to create groups?  For example, create a group called 
family members, add my family in to that and then just email the group to email 
all of my family when required.

Thanks again for the help.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Texting Multiple Recipients On An IPhone 5s and IO#S 8.1.2

Once you activate the compose button, on the to field, you can begin to type 
the first couple of letters of the first contact and then if you bring your 
finger down below the to field there will be a list. On that list, double tap 
the contact that you want to add. Continue to add contacts the same way rather 
than having to go to that contact button and the list.

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On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:50 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
steven.hi...@nhs.netmailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:
Hi friends,

Does anyone know an easy way to text multiple recipients on IOS 8?  At the 
moment, I have to go in to messaging, compose and then select add recipient.
I add the recipient and then the phone goes back to themessage screen, I then 
have to click add recipient again and go through my contacts to find the next 
person.  It always defaults back to the start of my contacts as well and this 
is time consuming.




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Re: Accessible Poker Game For The iPhone

2015-01-06 Thread Donna
Here's an accessible poker game. 

THETA Poker Pro - Texas Hold 'Em by Robert Jen
https://appsto.re/us/KBOXI.i

Donna


 On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:48 AM, chrissiepoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, I was wondering is there an accessible app for the iPhone that I can 
 use to play poker? Preferably, draw poker, or any other poker game for the 
 iPhone. Thank you. Christine
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

I have both the HDMI and the digital audio connected to the Apple TV. The
digital audio goes to the Samsung Sound bar and the HDMI goes to the Samsung
sixty inch Television. So I can do audio from the computer which is both my
ACER and an HP laptop or I can do audio from my iPhone 5S via airplay
through the Sound bar without the TV being on. I Can also do it through the
Apple TV via the HDMI via the television without the Sound bar being on but
the sound is not nearly as good. I can also do any Apple TV app such as
Netflix or Hulu Plus without turning on the television simply by turning on
the sound bar and the Apple TV. And then controlling everything via the
Apple TV remote. I discovered all of this totally by accident after having
all of this connected this way for a year. I should have known better being
that I worked at a flesh and blood radio station back in the eighties for
years when they still required you study and get a physical paper license to
be a DJ. It's not like today when anyone with a sound card can call
themselves a DJ, Laughs!

 

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Re: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Peter Logan

Richard ..

No .. you can then actually get sound out of both places .. however I find 
there is a slight lag and get a tiny bit of echo .. strangely the echo only 
seems to be on dialogue...


What I have done is ...

HDMI - Apple TV to TV
HDMI - Dish receiver to TV
HDMI - Blue ray DVD to TV

Digital audio - Apple TV to Sound bar
Digital audio - Dish receiver to sound bar
Digital audio - DVD player to sound bar

Actually the connections all run into a splitter then into the sound bar. 
This way I can get the audio from all inputs out through the sound bar, my 
sound bar has only 2 inputs.  I also can just get it from the TV as all of 
these are connected to the TV via HDMI.  Never have to turn the TV on to 
actually watch TV or a DVD.  Only need the TV when watching video content 
from Apple TV, and then a lot of times after it gets going can turn off the 
TV and continue listening via the sound bar.


If you want to contact me off list .. that is fine:  pdlloga...@gmail.com 
and I can hopefully help you out.  I just setup this last month...



Hope that helps ..

-Original Message- 
From: Richard

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 10:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV Question

That makes quite a bit of sense to me.  Thanks.  If I have two cables coming 
from the Apple Tv, an HDMI to the TV and Digital Optical to the sound bar, 
will they conflict?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV Question

If your Soundbar has a digital optical input you should be able to run a 
tosslink optical cable from the optical output of the Apple TV to the 
optical input of your soundbar.
I am not sure why soundbars even use HDMI since HDMI is for video and autio 
in one connection and you only need to send audio to the soundbar. Most 
soundbars I have seen have an optical input which you connect to the optical 
output of your TV and some maybe have some analogue inputs. I guess the 
primary purpose of a soundbar is to replace the TV speakers which is why 
many of them just have an optical input which connects to your TV and the TV 
becomes your hub for all your devices.



Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple TV Question

Thanks Mary,

How do I cable it then? Right now, I have an HDMI cable from Apple Tv to my 
Sharp tv and HDMI cable from my Sharp to my sound bar.  Thanks.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV Question

Hi Richard,
If all you want to do is stream purely audio programming, such as your 
iTunes, or other audio sources through your Apple TV to the sound bar, you 
don't need a TV.
However, if you want to watch something on the Apple TV which has a video 
component, such as Netflix, or some other video thing, then yes, you need 
that TV connection. Or the thing won't work. It needs to see the video. That 
doesn't mean you have to use the TV for your audio. But it does mean you 
need the HDMI from your AppleTV to the television.
This is true for my first generation Apple TV. I have no reason to think it 
would be any different for the second generation, but I can't prove it. When 
I looked up the differences, the only thing I found was at the 
second-generation let you have a higher video then what I have, 1080 P 
versus whatever it is I have that I don't remember.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard rqli...@rogers.com wrote:

Hi All,

Don't know if this has been covered here; hope I'm not asking out of turn.
I'm looking to stream audio from my Apple TV and wonder if I can do
this without a TV.  I have a tv but don't want to use it if possible.
Therefore, I want to have audio go directly to my sound bar.  Is this 
possible?

Thanks,

Richard




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RE: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Merv Keck
I stopped trying to use Crackle. It was giving me issues I think it was the
ISP but we could never get through a movie.

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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Kelly Pierce
I’m still waiting for more bug fixes with VoiceOver in iOS 8 before
upgrading and sending a love letter. I continue to use iOS 7.06 and am
waiting for more bug fixes before upgrading.

Kelly




On 1/6/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said that
 though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound
 negative in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
 I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably used
 it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going
 through the use of Apple maps?
 The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained
 about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i
 figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it is
 now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
 /Krister

 6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:

 Hello Everyone,

 Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus
 running
 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive to commands,
 the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the versatility
 seemingly limitless.

 I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 90s
 when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually prefer
 to
 hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like a
 normal-size
 receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, also.  I could
 go
 on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 Plus but doing so is
 not
 the purpose of this post.

 Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now
 using
 the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software GPS
 navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T
 Navigator.


 Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a
 level
 of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides cross-street
 announcements that sighted travelers do not require.

 Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their
 iOS
 Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge that
 unlike so many other mapping services, they did not forget those of us
 who
 are blind or low vision.

 At a time when so many of us, humans that is, are so fast to point out
 flaws
 and so slow to offer compliments, I wanted Apple to know that I owe a
 great
 deal of my ever-increasing independence to their consideration and
 efforts.

 So, the reason I am posting is to invite you to send Apple some love by
 sending in some positive feedback about whatever you like about their
 products.  For example, today I submitted comments about how much I am
 truly
 enjoying the iOS 8.1.2 Apple Maps app via VoiceOver.

 You may send Apple feedback via it's feedback portal at:
 http://www.apple.com/feedback

 Let's All Make a Joyful Noise This Year.

 Mark

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Re: Good color identifying apps

2015-01-06 Thread Ward Dudley

Usually does.  I always know what color bandana I put on my guide dog.
Ward
On 1/5/2015 9:52 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
Tap Tap See doesn't give you the color of something, does it?  I've 
gotten info about what the picture is of, but not the color.  Thanks.


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*From:* Ward Dudley mailto:whdud...@gmail.com
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 05, 2015 7:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: Good color identifying apps

Another alternative is TappTappSee.
Ward
On 1/5/2015 5:32 PM, Neal Ewers wrote:


Hi Eileen. This is mostly for my own curiosity. I have a stand
alone device. It is many years old and it is terrible. I joined
this discussion just because I had tried some of the iPhone apps
and found that they were not, for me, all that good. So, thanks
for wanting to help. At the moment, it is just a scientific
quest, but thanks for the information in case I decide to go
there. I might.

Neal

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Eileen Misrahi
*Sent:* Monday, January 05, 2015 3:21 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Good color identifying apps

Hi Neal,

I would like to know how accurate you need the colors and what
types of activities you would need a color app on the phone? I'm
not sure who stated this in an earlier post, but if I need a more
accurate result, I use my stand alone Colorino. This device can
be purchased from Maxi-Aids, LS and S, to or Independent Living
Aids. I believe that the cost is about $200, but don't quote me.

Eileen


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

Well, I just installed camfind and it is, so far, about 50%
accurate. I can hold the object in a stationary position at
the same distance from the camera and take two pictures which
are not often identified as being the same color. So far, my
wife is still more accurate than it is, and if I didn’t have
sighted assistance, I still don’t know if 50% is accurate
enough. I’ll play some more, but, so far…

Neal

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Good color identifying apps

Do try CamFind!it is free and, in my opinion, absolutely
wonderful not only colour recognition that it describing
patterns et cetera.

Sent from my iPhone


On 4 Jan 2015, at 23:37, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com
mailto:julia.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Marie. I have also had lousy luck with the color
identification apps for the iPhone. I would suggest color
Reno as a good standalone alternative. Color test may be
the best, but I don't think many blind people have
upwards of $800 to pay for the best. Julia.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Marie Lyons
mlyons...@gmail.com mailto:mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:

I have downloaded 2 free apps with less than
satisfactory results. Could anyone recommend a good app?



Marie

 Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Mary Otten
Sorry, sieghard. What I meant to say was that there is an analog Eout on the TV 
which goes to an analog in on the sound bar. So, I have the HDMI from the 
AppleTV to the television. Then I have analog from the television to the sound 
bar. If I try to use the digital optical direct from the AppleTV to the sound 
bar, voiceover is unusably choppy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 You say when I use the analogue cable from the Apple TV to the sounbar it 
 works fine. What cable is that? The Apple TV only has 2 outputs, one HDMI 
 and 1 optical toslink 
 And both of those are digital. Are you using an digital otpical to analogue 
 converter?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple TV Question
 
 Well, my sound bar does not work well if I connect the digital optical cable. 
 I get very choppy voiceover, such that it really is not usable. But, if I use 
 the analog cable from the AppleTV to the sound bar, it works fine. You could 
 I suppose do the HDMI thing, from the Apple TV to the TV  and from the tv to 
 the sound bar if your sound bar has an HDMI input. That should work too.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 If your Soundbar has a digital optical input you should be able to run a 
 tosslink optical cable from the optical output of the Apple TV to the 
 optical input of your soundbar.
 I am not sure why soundbars even use HDMI since HDMI is for video and autio 
 in one connection and you only need to send audio to the soundbar. Most 
 soundbars I have seen have an optical input which you connect to the optical 
 output of your TV and some maybe have some analogue inputs. I guess the 
 primary purpose of a soundbar is to replace the TV speakers which is why 
 many of them just have an optical input which connects to your TV and the TV 
 becomes your hub for all your devices.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Richard
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 7:38 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple TV Question
 
 Thanks Mary,
 
 How do I cable it then? Right now, I have an HDMI cable from Apple Tv to my 
 Sharp tv and HDMI cable from my Sharp to my sound bar.  Thanks. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple TV Question
 
 Hi Richard,
 If all you want to do is stream purely audio programming, such as your 
 iTunes, or other audio sources through your Apple TV to the sound bar, you 
 don't need a TV. 
 However, if you want to watch something on the Apple TV which has a video 
 component, such as Netflix, or some other video thing, then yes, you need 
 that TV connection. Or the thing won't work. It needs to see the video. That 
 doesn't mean you have to use the TV for your audio. But it does mean you 
 need the HDMI from your AppleTV to the television. 
 This is true for my first generation Apple TV. I have no reason to think it 
 would be any different for the second generation, but I can't prove it. When 
 I looked up the differences, the only thing I found was at the 
 second-generation let you have a higher video then what I have, 1080 P 
 versus whatever it is I have that I don't remember.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard rqli...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Don't know if this has been covered here; hope I'm not asking out of turn.
 I'm looking to stream audio from my Apple TV and wonder if I can do 
 this without a TV.  I have a tv but don't want to use it if possible.
 Therefore, I want to have audio go directly to my sound bar.  Is this 
 possible?
 Thanks,
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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Re: Accessible Poker Game For The iPhone

2015-01-06 Thread David Redman
Is there a difference between the $2.99 and the $3..99 versions?  

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 3:26 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Here's an accessible poker game. 
 
 THETA Poker Pro - Texas Hold 'Em by Robert Jen
 https://appsto.re/us/KBOXI.i
 
 Donna
 
 
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:48 AM, chrissiepoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, I was wondering is there an accessible app for the iPhone that I can 
 use to play poker? Preferably, draw poker, or any other poker game for the 
 iPhone. Thank you. Christine
 
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RE: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

I get better sound through the optical than the HDMI. I use the optical with
the Apple TV and keep the television muted. Otherwise I get an echo. So I
have the HDMI connected as well as the Optical however, I do not actually
use it all that much. I use the video but for the sound I prefer the optical
coming out of the Apple TV to the Sound bar and it's wireless subwoofer.

Merv

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braille sense on hand 8.1.2 a problem

2015-01-06 Thread Eden Kizer
Ok, I used to could enter my ITunes password with no problem, I would 
tap the cursor above the edit field, and then I would attempt to type 
having grade II turned on which used to work I tried it the other way 
too no go can't enter with my braille sense, I can navigate my screen 
perfectly, it's only entering text that is a problem.  I can deal with 
this with most things using dictation or a bluetooth keyboard, but I am 
not sure you can dictate a password nor how to say like cap a letter 
then not cap some and such.  I have always found entering text with the 
display more cumbersome than the bluettooth keyboard, but I still prefer 
to use the sense only if I can get away with it for most tasks so 
disappointed and wondering why I can no longer do this.


Eden

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RE: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Mary, I have a Yamaha receiver with optical ins and outs and the optical out 
from the apple tv works fine plugged into my receiver's optical in and voice 
over works fine.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV Question

Sorry, sieghard. What I meant to say was that there is an analog Eout on the TV 
which goes to an analog in on the sound bar. So, I have the HDMI from the 
AppleTV to the television. Then I have analog from the television to the sound 
bar. If I try to use the digital optical direct from the AppleTV to the sound 
bar, voiceover is unusably choppy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 You say when I use the analogue cable from the Apple TV to the 
 sounbar it works fine. What cable is that? The Apple TV only has 2 outputs, 
 one HDMI and 1 optical toslink And both of those are digital. Are you using 
 an digital otpical to analogue converter?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple TV Question
 
 Well, my sound bar does not work well if I connect the digital optical cable. 
 I get very choppy voiceover, such that it really is not usable. But, if I use 
 the analog cable from the AppleTV to the sound bar, it works fine. You could 
 I suppose do the HDMI thing, from the Apple TV to the TV  and from the tv to 
 the sound bar if your sound bar has an HDMI input. That should work too.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 If your Soundbar has a digital optical input you should be able to run a 
 tosslink optical cable from the optical output of the Apple TV to the 
 optical input of your soundbar.
 I am not sure why soundbars even use HDMI since HDMI is for video and autio 
 in one connection and you only need to send audio to the soundbar. Most 
 soundbars I have seen have an optical input which you connect to the optical 
 output of your TV and some maybe have some analogue inputs. I guess the 
 primary purpose of a soundbar is to replace the TV speakers which is why 
 many of them just have an optical input which connects to your TV and the TV 
 becomes your hub for all your devices.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 7:38 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple TV Question
 
 Thanks Mary,
 
 How do I cable it then? Right now, I have an HDMI cable from Apple Tv to my 
 Sharp tv and HDMI cable from my Sharp to my sound bar.  Thanks. 
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple TV Question
 
 Hi Richard,
 If all you want to do is stream purely audio programming, such as your 
 iTunes, or other audio sources through your Apple TV to the sound bar, you 
 don't need a TV. 
 However, if you want to watch something on the Apple TV which has a video 
 component, such as Netflix, or some other video thing, then yes, you need 
 that TV connection. Or the thing won't work. It needs to see the video. That 
 doesn't mean you have to use the TV for your audio. But it does mean you 
 need the HDMI from your AppleTV to the television. 
 This is true for my first generation Apple TV. I have no reason to think it 
 would be any different for the second generation, but I can't prove it. When 
 I looked up the differences, the only thing I found was at the 
 second-generation let you have a higher video then what I have, 1080 P 
 versus whatever it is I have that I don't remember.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard rqli...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Don't know if this has been covered here; hope I'm not asking out of turn.
 I'm looking to stream audio from my Apple TV and wonder if I can do 
 this without a TV.  I have a tv but don't want to use it if possible.
 Therefore, I want to have audio go directly to my sound bar.  Is this 
 possible?
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Accessible Poker Game For The iPhone

2015-01-06 Thread hebertisaac99
The difference between the two versions are one of them supports older iOS 
versions and the other supports newer iOS versions. 
Here are the links to what I am talking about. 
THETA Poker - Texas Hold 'Em by Robert Jen
https://appsto.re/us/MUdxr.i
 
THETA Poker Pro - Texas Hold 'Em by Robert Jen
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 Here's an accessible poker game. 
 
 THETA Poker Pro - Texas Hold 'Em by Robert Jen
 https://appsto.re/us/KBOXI.i
 
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Re: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

2015-01-06 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
It's a play / pause button. E.G. when music or a video is playing
press it to pause it then press it again to resume playback. It's also
used to turn voiceover on - E.G. press it three times like you would
do using tripple click home.

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 Wondering wwhat the right hand button on the apple tv remote is for?
 I know the left one is menu and the big circle are the arrows and the middle
 of the circle is play but not sure about that button.
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RE: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

2015-01-06 Thread Carrie Snodgrass
The right button is the play/pause button.

 

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Hi,  

Wondering wwhat the right hand button on the apple tv remote is for?  

I know the left one is menu and the big circle are the arrows and the middle
of the circle is play but not sure about that button.  

Jen  

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Re: automatic downloads

2015-01-06 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all,
Let me chime in by saying this.
If you have apps turned on, it means any newly purchased apps from one device 
will be automatically downloaded to the other. So say you have apps turned on 
your iPhone and you purchase an app through your PC, the app will download to 
both your PC and iPhone over wifi.
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 Hi Sieghard and all,
  
 When I go into settings and go  to iTunes and app store and under the 
 automatic  download heading I do have updates turned off so that I will get 
 notified when there is an update  to manually  download the apps I want. 
  
 But I also was wanting to know under the same heading do I also turn off  
 apps or do I leave it turned on? Wouldn't apps be the same thing as updates 
 because  updates is allowing me to update my apps I already have to a  newest 
 version of what ever app is being updated.
  
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Re: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

2015-01-06 Thread MamaPeach
That button is used to pause a show when one is playing.

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Hi,  
Wondering wwhat the right hand button on the apple tv remote is for?  
I know the left one is menu and the big circle are the arrows and the middle of 
the circle is play but not sure about that button.  
Jen  
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Re: IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text

2015-01-06 Thread Alex Hall
The cursor on iOS devices can be thought of as always being between two 
characters. If you're moving backward, your cursor is before whatever VoiceOver 
reads; if you move forward, it is after what you hear. That's why, if you move 
back a character and then forward a character, you hear that character twice, 
once as you pass it one way, and again as you go back the other way.

Deleting always moves left. So, if you move forward a character and then 
delete, you will erase the character you just heard spoken. If you move back a 
character and delete, you will erase whatever is left of the character you just 
heard, since your cursor is now left of the character and you are deleting 
left. I hope this makes sense.
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 I wonder if someone is able to confirm something quickly for me please?
 I have been practicing with a text message open in the edit field and 
 flicking around the message to edit it but I can's seem to make any logic on 
 where the cursur lands and when you click delete on the keyboard, exactly 
 what it is going to delete if this makes any sense?
 On my PC, the cursor goes in front of the letter that I will delete when 
 pressing backspace and if I press delete, it  will delete the character that 
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How do you have your Facebook notifications sent directly to your i phone?

2015-01-06 Thread Bluesman02

Hi all,

Can anyone tell me how I get my notifications from Facebook  delivered to my 
phone using Gmail?.


I had this active before the recent repair, but can't remember how I did it? 
smile.


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Re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Richard,

I have location settings turned on and even double checked this in the apps 
settings. Strange that there is no way to delete a location as I am sure people 
have added a location when on vacation so you would think there would be a way 
to remove it.
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 In the settings in the app, there is a support email, supp...@wdtinc.com
 Also, you need to allow location services in your privacy settings for itto 
 use your location automatically. It does not appear to me that there is a way 
 to delete a location.
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Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all I just moved and was surprised to learn that Weather radio which is a 
fantastic app does not just automatically know your location. I want to delete 
my old location but for the life of me cannot find anywhere in the app to do 
so. Also there does not seem to be an actions option in the rotor where you 
might be able to delete a location. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks,

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RE: Good color identifying apps

2015-01-06 Thread Rick Alfaro
Hi Neal, for what it’s worth, I’ve tried just about every color detection app I 
could get my hands on and have yet to find anything that even comes close to 
being acceptable. That was on my iPhone 4s and 5s. I haven’t done this on my 6 
plus yet but honestly I probably won’t bother unless there is some sort of 
major breakthrough. I found them all to be very lacking in terms of accuracy. 
Hopefully things will change with better optics. It would certainly be 
wonderful to have an accurate color detector on our phones.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Good color identifying apps

 

Hi Eileen. This is mostly for my own curiosity. I have a stand alone device. It 
is many years old and it is terrible. I joined this discussion just because I 
had tried some of the iPhone apps and found that they were not, for me, all 
that good. So, thanks for wanting to help. At the moment, it is just a 
scientific quest, but thanks for the information in case I decide to go there. 
I might.

 

Neal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eileen Misrahi
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps

 

Hi Neal,

 

I would like to know how accurate you need the colors and what types of 
activities you would need a color app on the phone? I'm not sure who stated 
this in an earlier post, but if I need a more accurate result, I use my stand 
alone Colorino. This device can be purchased from Maxi-Aids, LS and S, to or 
Independent Living Aids. I believe that the cost is about $200, but don't quote 
me. 

 

Eileen 


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org 
mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org  wrote:

Well, I just installed camfind and it is, so far, about 50% accurate. I can 
hold the object in a stationary position at the same distance from the camera 
and take two pictures which are not often identified as being the same color. 
So far, my wife is still more accurate than it is, and if I didn’t have sighted 
assistance, I still don’t know if 50% is accurate enough. I’ll play some more, 
but, so far…

 

 

Neal

 

 

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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps

 

Do try CamFind!it is free and, in my opinion, absolutely wonderful not only 
colour recognition that it describing patterns et cetera.

Sent from my iPhone


On 4 Jan 2015, at 23:37, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com 
mailto:julia.ku...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Marie. I have also had lousy luck with the color identification apps for the 
iPhone. I would suggest color Reno as a good standalone alternative. Color test 
may be the best, but I don't think many blind people have upwards of $800 to 
pay for the best. Julia.

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On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com 
mailto:mlyons...@gmail.com  wrote:

I have downloaded 2 free apps with less than satisfactory results. Could anyone 
recommend a good app?

 



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The Amazon basic bluetooth key board for the I Phone

2015-01-06 Thread terri elliott
I am trying to pair the Amazon bluetooth basic keyboard to my iphone.  I need 
to locate the power button on the keyboard so the phone can recognize the 
keyboard.  Thanks.

Terri

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Re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Chris Chaffin
In Weather Radio if you go to settings, you will find where you can turn on 
location tracking.  It works just fine, I use it on a daily basis.
To delete a location, do a two finger double tap on the location you are 
wanting to edit.  A menu will pop up with some choices.

When you have location tracking on, that will be the first listed in your list 
of locations.

I hope all of this helps!

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 Hey all I just moved and was surprised to learn that Weather radio which is a 
 fantastic app does not just automatically know your location. I want to 
 delete my old location but for the life of me cannot find anywhere in the app 
 to do so. Also there does not seem to be an actions option in the rotor where 
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RE: The Amazon basic bluetooth key board for the I Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Larry Lumpkin
It's under the right back edge.


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Subject: The Amazon basic bluetooth key board for the I Phone

I am trying to pair the Amazon bluetooth basic keyboard to my iphone.  I need 
to locate the power button on the keyboard so the phone can recognize the 
keyboard.  Thanks.

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Re: adding a location in weather radio re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
On my app, it shows an edit field and says to double tap to enter, which I do.  
Whether the Bluetooth keyboard is in or out of quick nav mode, or I try it 
using the onscreen keyboard, no data is entered.

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  Subject: Re: adding a location in weather radio re: Weather Radio Deleting A 
Location


  Hey Charles, I just added a location yesterday all I did was click the add 
button at the bottom of the main screen entered my zip code not sure if I typed 
it or dictated it as I do not recall and that all worked fine.

  On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:


I'm trying to add a location.  Whether I use the onscreen keyboard or an 
Apple Bluetooth keyboard, I cannot get the app to take a data entry.  Any 
thoughts?  I'm using 8.1.2 on an iPhone 5.  Thanks.

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  Hey Richard,


  I have location settings turned on and even double checked this in the 
apps settings. Strange that there is no way to delete a location as I am sure 
people have added a location when on vacation so you would think there would be 
a way to remove it.

  On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:


In the settings in the app, there is a support email, supp...@wdtinc.com
Also, you need to allow location services in your privacy settings for 
itto use your location automatically. It does not appear to me that there is a 
way to delete a location.
HTH,
Richard




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to delete my old location but for the life of me cannot find anywhere in the 
app to do so. Also there does not seem to be an actions option in the rotor 
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Thanks,

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Re: Good color identifying apps

2015-01-06 Thread David Chittenden
Colour always looks different depending on the lighting and shading in the 
area. The person's brain makes automatic shifts in order to recognise the 
colour. Apps are not able to do this. They always report exactly what they 
detect. They do not make the human mental adjustments. Camera optics will not 
help with this factor.

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 Hi Neal, for what it’s worth, I’ve tried just about every color detection app 
 I could get my hands on and have yet to find anything that even comes close 
 to being acceptable. That was on my iPhone 4s and 5s. I haven’t done this on 
 my 6 plus yet but honestly I probably won’t bother unless there is some sort 
 of major breakthrough. I found them all to be very lacking in terms of 
 accuracy. Hopefully things will change with better optics. It would certainly 
 be wonderful to have an accurate color detector on our phones.
  
  
  
 Best regards,
  
 Rick Alfaro
  
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 Neal Ewers
 Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Good color identifying apps
  
 Hi Eileen. This is mostly for my own curiosity. I have a stand alone device. 
 It is many years old and it is terrible. I joined this discussion just 
 because I had tried some of the iPhone apps and found that they were not, for 
 me, all that good. So, thanks for wanting to help. At the moment, it is just 
 a scientific quest, but thanks for the information in case I decide to go 
 there. I might.
  
 Neal
  
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 Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:21 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps
  
 Hi Neal,
  
 I would like to know how accurate you need the colors and what types of 
 activities you would need a color app on the phone? I'm not sure who stated 
 this in an earlier post, but if I need a more accurate result, I use my stand 
 alone Colorino. This device can be purchased from Maxi-Aids, LS and S, to or 
 Independent Living Aids. I believe that the cost is about $200, but don't 
 quote me. 
  
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Well, I just installed camfind and it is, so far, about 50% accurate. I can 
 hold the object in a stationary position at the same distance from the camera 
 and take two pictures which are not often identified as being the same color. 
 So far, my wife is still more accurate than it is, and if I didn’t have 
 sighted assistance, I still don’t know if 50% is accurate enough. I’ll play 
 some more, but, so far…
  
  
 Neal
  
  
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 Sandratomkins
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps
  
 Do try CamFind!it is free and, in my opinion, absolutely wonderful not only 
 colour recognition that it describing patterns et cetera.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 23:37, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Marie. I have also had lousy luck with the color identification apps for 
 the iPhone. I would suggest color Reno as a good standalone alternative. 
 Color test may be the best, but I don't think many blind people have upwards 
 of $800 to pay for the best. Julia.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have downloaded 2 free apps with less than satisfactory results. Could 
 anyone recommend a good app?
  
 
 
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Setup New Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Ward Dudley

Hi folks,

I didn't expect to buy a new phone so I haven't been following how to 
setup a new 6+.  How do you get VoiceOver up and running from the start?

Ward

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Re: Setup New Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Alex Hall
While the phone is still prompting you to set things up (that is, you're not at 
the Home Screen), hit the home button three times quickly. This will turn on 
VoiceOver and let you complete the process. Note that, once it is set up, 
you'll need to go into Setings  General  Accessibility  Accessibility 
Shortcut and set it to VoiceOver. This is automatic during setup, but is not so 
once setup is complete.
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 I didn't expect to buy a new phone so I haven't been following how to setup a 
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transferring music from ipod touch

2015-01-06 Thread cwc

I am trying to figurre out how to transfer music from my iphone to an ipod 
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Re: adding a location in weather radio re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Charles, I just added a location yesterday all I did was click the add 
button at the bottom of the main screen entered my zip code not sure if I typed 
it or dictated it as I do not recall and that all worked fine.
On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

 I'm trying to add a location.  Whether I use the onscreen keyboard or an 
 Apple Bluetooth keyboard, I cannot get the app to take a data entry.  Any 
 thoughts?  I'm using 8.1.2 on an iPhone 5.  Thanks.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:15 PM
 Subject: Re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location
 
 Hey Richard,
 
 I have location settings turned on and even double checked this in the apps 
 settings. Strange that there is no way to delete a location as I am sure 
 people have added a location when on vacation so you would think there would 
 be a way to remove it.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 In the settings in the app, there is a support email, supp...@wdtinc.com
 Also, you need to allow location services in your privacy settings for itto 
 use your location automatically. It does not appear to me that there is a 
 way to delete a location.
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
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 Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
 
 
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hey all I just moved and was surprised to learn that Weather radio which is 
 a fantastic app does not just automatically know your location. I want to 
 delete my old location but for the life of me cannot find anywhere in the 
 app to do so. Also there does not seem to be an actions option in the rotor 
 where you might be able to delete a location. Anyone know how to do this? 
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Re: Does anyone use the A D T security pulse app

2015-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
YMMV Your Mileage May Vary.

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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh but it doesn't feel like a giant slab of metal, at least not to me! It's 
warm and smooth and slim though large in dimension. I like it very much though 
to each his/her own of course!

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This I call to mind,
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The steadfast love of the Lord
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On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:

Mark,

Thanks for sharing all this info. I have been waiting for my iPhone 6 plus for 
a couple of weeks now and I am quite nervous about whether I will like it or 
not due to the size. I keep imagining this giant slab of metal against my face 
when talking on the phone. LOL! I wanted the extra battery life and the image 
stabilization on the camera and am willing to give it a whirl. :) I have to get 
a new purse though. LOL!

I have never been able to figure out apple maps. When you ask Siri to navigate 
to a specific place and she does, is she accessing apple maps? That is the 
absolute most I’ve ever been able to do. I only do that when someone is driving 
me somewhere. Otherwise, I’ve tried to use apple maps to take a walk in my 
neighborhood and then ask apple maps to take me home and I just cannot get it 
to work at all. Then I can’t figure out how to use apple maps to find out where 
I am in my neighborhood. I wanted to learn the layout of my neighborhood. :( 
Anyways, if you know of a good podcast for apple maps, please let me know.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Richard Turner
In the settings in the app, there is a support email, supp...@wdtinc.com
Also, you need to allow location services in your privacy settings for itto use 
your location automatically. It does not appear to me that there is a way to 
delete a location.
HTH,
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adding a location in weather radio re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
I'm trying to add a location.  Whether I use the onscreen keyboard or an Apple 
Bluetooth keyboard, I cannot get the app to take a data entry.  Any thoughts?  
I'm using 8.1.2 on an iPhone 5.  Thanks.

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  Subject: Re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location


  Hey Richard,


  I have location settings turned on and even double checked this in the apps 
settings. Strange that there is no way to delete a location as I am sure people 
have added a location when on vacation so you would think there would be a way 
to remove it.

  On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:


In the settings in the app, there is a support email, supp...@wdtinc.com
Also, you need to allow location services in your privacy settings for itto 
use your location automatically. It does not appear to me that there is a way 
to delete a location.
HTH,
Richard




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Re: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

2015-01-06 Thread Jen Colley

Where do you go to set up that voice over shortcut click?
I have tried that and that doesn't do anything for me.
Also, I was told you could set up your itunes account etc using your phone 
to set up apple tv.
I turned blue tooth on and put my phone by the apple tv but nothing 
happened.

Jen

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used 
for


It's a play / pause button. E.G. when music or a video is playing
press it to pause it then press it again to resume playback. It's also
used to turn voiceover on - E.G. press it three times like you would
do using tripple click home.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/6/15, Jen Colley jencol...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Wondering wwhat the right hand button on the apple tv remote is for?
I know the left one is menu and the big circle are the arrows and the 
middle

of the circle is play but not sure about that button.
Jen

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Re: Does anyone use the A D T security pulse app

2015-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
YMMV?  I'm not familiar with that nonword.  Thanks.

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  Subject: Re: Does anyone use the A D T security pulse app


  When they came to show it to me, a couple years ago, it worked with their 
iPhone.  I had them enable Voiceover on their phone and at least the basic 
functions worked.

  YMMV, as they may have a newer version of the app now.

  Steve
  Lansing, MI
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  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 1:17 PM
  Subject: Does anyone use the A D T security pulse app


  Hi, I was thinking about updating our A D T alarm system to the palse program 
which requires an app. It is available on the iPhone, but I don’t know if it is 
accessible. Thus, my question. Thanks for any help.

   

  Neal

   


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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm actually having no problem holding up to my ear without having it 
significantly covering my face or otherwise getting in my way but obviously it 
wiould indeed take more space. You might find you wanted to always use 
earphones but you might possibly find that you got used to it as I have; that 
would be hard to know without using it somewhat.

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On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:

I don't have an iPhone 6, but I know that the chip is more powerful and 
therefore most likely much more responsive than a 5S. Also, if I had a phone 
that size, I'd definitely use Bluetooth headphones instead of holding it to my 
face. I've tried holding friends; large phones and always feel like I'm going 
to drop them, but my hands are relatively small.
HtH,
Teresa
We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 
 I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and 
 I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or 
 Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know.
 
 What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 
 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the 
 larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I 
 can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said 
 yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a 
 big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, 
 the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect.
 
 Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy 
 rivals that of Google Maps.  
 
 Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, 
 specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it 
 does on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in 
 mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a 
 bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed.  
 
 Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 
 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to 
 walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.  
 
 Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In 
 fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf 
 software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one 
 need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar.  
 
 Mark  
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hi,
 Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said that 
 though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative 
 in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
 I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably used 
 it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going 
 through the use of Apple maps?
 The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained 
 about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i 
 figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it is 
 now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
 /Krister
 
 6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu 
 mailto:mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus 
 running 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive 
 to commands, the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and 

Re: Setup New Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Akbar Ega
Hi Alex, can I do the same way if I reset my phone to factory settings? Or it's 
only possible for a brand new phone?
Thank you

Regards,
Akbar Ega

 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 While the phone is still prompting you to set things up (that is, you're not 
 at the Home Screen), hit the home button three times quickly. This will turn 
 on VoiceOver and let you complete the process. Note that, once it is set up, 
 you'll need to go into Setings  General  Accessibility  Accessibility 
 Shortcut and set it to VoiceOver. This is automatic during setup, but is not 
 so once setup is complete.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Ward Dudley whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I didn't expect to buy a new phone so I haven't been following how to setup 
 a new 6+.  How do you get VoiceOver up and running from the start?
 Ward
 
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Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices

2015-01-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Sieghard and Everyone,

I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion.  

I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the
features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested.  

Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be
expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed.
Allow me to clarify my previous comments:

I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2.

In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on
the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned.  This is definitely true
with regard to screen refresh rates.  Without going into details, simply
put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported
on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear
All Button problem.  However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including
the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S.

Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side
comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today.

I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and
one in a vehicle.  The following are my conclusions:

Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened
apps on both devices and performed a system reboot.  During the test, I held
one device in my right hand and the other in my left.

1.
Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS
messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both
devices.

2.
Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages,
etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S.  Also, screen refresh rates and
VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing
said interruptions.

3.
The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus.

Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2.

Mark

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Hi Mark,

I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and
I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or
Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know.

What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running
8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart
from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as
far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps.
You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Hello Krister,

First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a
big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple
Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every
aspect.

Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy
rivals that of Google Maps.  

Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps,
specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it
does on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in
mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a
bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed.  

Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to
iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy
to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.  

Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In
fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf
software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one
need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar.  

Mark  

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
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Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn't agree more with you there. Having said that
though i'll have to admit something that probably will make me sound
negative in this thread and i'm truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I've probably used
it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going
through the use of Apple maps?
The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained

Re: Setup New Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Alex Hall
This goes back to iOS5, maybe earlier, so iOS7 will work fine.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Akbar Ega akbareg...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 One more question, can I do this in iOS 7? Or this is only iOS 8 features?
 
 Regards,
 Akbar Ega
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 As far as I know, it happens during initial setup. Whether you get to that 
 setup by resetting, or turning on a new device for the first time, shouldn't 
 matter. So long as you're at the screen that requires you to tap the button 
 to begin setup, triple clicking the home button should enable VoiceOver.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Akbar Ega akbareg...@hotmail.com 
 mailto:akbareg...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex, can I do the same way if I reset my phone to factory settings? Or 
 it's only possible for a brand new phone?
 Thank you
 
 Regards,
 Akbar Ega
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 While the phone is still prompting you to set things up (that is, you're 
 not at the Home Screen), hit the home button three times quickly. This 
 will turn on VoiceOver and let you complete the process. Note that, once 
 it is set up, you'll need to go into Setings  General  Accessibility  
 Accessibility Shortcut and set it to VoiceOver. This is automatic during 
 setup, but is not so once setup is complete.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Ward Dudley whdud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I didn't expect to buy a new phone so I haven't been following how to 
 setup a new 6+.  How do you get VoiceOver up and running from the start?
 Ward
 
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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Teresa Cochran
I don't have an iPhone 6, but I know that the chip is more powerful and 
therefore most likely much more responsive than a 5S. Also, if I had a phone 
that size, I'd definitely use Bluetooth headphones instead of holding it to my 
face. I've tried holding friends; large phones and always feel like I'm going 
to drop them, but my hands are relatively small.
HtH,
Teresa
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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and 
 I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or 
 Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know.
 
 What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 
 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the 
 larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I 
 can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said 
 yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 M. Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a 
 big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, 
 the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect.
 
 Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy 
 rivals that of Google Maps.  
 
 Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, 
 specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it 
 does on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in 
 mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a 
 bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed.  
 
 Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 
 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to 
 walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.  
 
 Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In 
 fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf 
 software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one 
 need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar.  
 
 Mark  
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hi,
 Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said that 
 though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative 
 in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
 I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably used 
 it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going 
 through the use of Apple maps?
 The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained 
 about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i 
 figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it is 
 now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
 /Krister
 
 6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus 
 running 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive 
 to commands, the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the 
 versatility seemingly limitless.
 
 I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 
 90s when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually 
 prefer to hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like 
 a normal-size receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, 
 also.  I could go on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 
 Plus but doing so is not the purpose of this post.
 
 Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now 
 using the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software 
 GPS navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T 
 Navigator.
 
 
 Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a 
 level of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides 
 cross-street announcements that sighted travelers do not require.
 
 Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their 
 iOS Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge 
 that unlike so many other mapping services, they did 

Navigating with Apple Maps

2015-01-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Christina,

I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion.  

Christina, I had little success with Maps in iOS 7.x.  So, my comments
relate only to Maps in iOS 8.x.

Question:
When you ask Siri to navigate to a specific place and she does, is she
accessing apple maps?

Answer:
All things being equal, yes.

You wrote:
Otherwise, I've tried to use apple maps to take a walk in my neighborhood
and then ask apple maps to take me home and I just cannot get it to work at
all.

My Reply:
I know exactly what you mean.  I experienced a similar frustration during my
first 4 attempts using Apple Maps.  The problem is that the program is
working but, as VoiceOver users, we don't realize it's working until we
understand how it's working.  Once that concept has been grasped, the app is
one of the most simplest tools in the OS, especially for VoiceOver users.
Once I understood it, after about 2 hours of failure, that is, I laughed at
myself for being so, to use a word, blind.  The app is almost too simple
for its own good.  As a blind person, I was not expecting an off-the-shelf
software GPS navigation solution to be so simple and straight-forward.

You Wrote:
Then I can't figure out how to use apple maps to find out where I am in my
neighborhood.

My Reply:
Apple Maps will definitely give you the nearest street address of your
current location.

You Wrote:
I wanted to learn the layout of my neighborhood.

My Reply:
While you can explore the streets in your surrounding area, as a blind
traveler, I'm not certain I would recommend Apple Maps as a primary means of
gaining detailed layout information; at least, not yet.

Mark


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Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Mark,

Thanks for sharing all this info. I have been waiting for my iPhone 6 plus
for a couple of weeks now and I am quite nervous about whether I will like
it or not due to the size. I keep imagining this giant slab of metal against
my face when talking on the phone. LOL! I wanted the extra battery life and
the image stabilization on the camera and am willing to give it a whirl. :)
I have to get a new purse though. LOL!

I have never been able to figure out apple maps. When you ask Siri to
navigate to a specific place and she does, is she accessing apple maps? That
is the absolute most I've ever been able to do. I only do that when someone
is driving me somewhere. Otherwise, I've tried to use apple maps to take a
walk in my neighborhood and then ask apple maps to take me home and I just
cannot get it to work at all. Then I can't figure out how to use apple maps
to find out where I am in my neighborhood. I wanted to learn the layout of
my neighborhood. :( Anyways, if you know of a good podcast for apple maps,
please let me know.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Setup New Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Alex Hall
As far as I know, it happens during initial setup. Whether you get to that 
setup by resetting, or turning on a new device for the first time, shouldn't 
matter. So long as you're at the screen that requires you to tap the button to 
begin setup, triple clicking the home button should enable VoiceOver.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Akbar Ega akbareg...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex, can I do the same way if I reset my phone to factory settings? Or 
 it's only possible for a brand new phone?
 Thank you
 
 Regards,
 Akbar Ega
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 While the phone is still prompting you to set things up (that is, you're not 
 at the Home Screen), hit the home button three times quickly. This will turn 
 on VoiceOver and let you complete the process. Note that, once it is set up, 
 you'll need to go into Setings  General  Accessibility  Accessibility 
 Shortcut and set it to VoiceOver. This is automatic during setup, but is not 
 so once setup is complete.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Ward Dudley whdud...@gmail.com 
 mailto:whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I didn't expect to buy a new phone so I haven't been following how to setup 
 a new 6+.  How do you get VoiceOver up and running from the start?
 Ward
 
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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The iPhone 6 does have an A8 processor in it while the 5s has an A7 
processor in it. I don't find that the A8 makes the iPhone 6 much more 
responsive than the 5s, although obviously it is more responsive. I 
guess it depends on what you consider much more responsive.


On 01/06/2015 07:14 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

I don't have an iPhone 6, but I know that the chip is more powerful and
therefore most likely much more responsive than a 5S. Also, if I had a
phone that size, I'd definitely use Bluetooth headphones instead of
holding it to my face. I've tried holding friends; large phones and
always feel like I'm going to drop them, but my hands are relatively small.
HtH,
Teresa
We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Mark,

I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well
and I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a
review or Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know.

What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus
running 8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running
8.1.2. Apart from the larger screen there is little difference between
the two phones as far as I can tell when it comes to the components
which effect Apple Maps. You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2
installed on your 5S.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hello Krister,

First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there
is a big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of
Apple Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost
every aspect.

Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its
accuracy rivals that of Google Maps.

Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps,
specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models
as it does on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is
astonishing. Keep in mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own
5 S, I did use it quite a bit on those with which I have access and
was not that impressed.

Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access
to iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will
be happy to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.

Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.
 In fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate
off-the-shelf software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the
best part is that one need no vision in order to play it like a fine
guitar.

Mark

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
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Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said
that though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me
sound negative in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably
used it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a
podcast going through the use of Apple maps?
The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people
complained about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was
released so i figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed,
and apparently it is now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
/Krister


6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
mailto:mk...@ucla.edu:

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus
running 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive
to commands, the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the
versatility seemingly limitless.

I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early
90s when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually
prefer to hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like
a normal-size receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome,
also.  I could go on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6
Plus but doing so is not the purpose of this post.

Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now
using the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software
GPS navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T
Navigator.


Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS 

Re: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

2015-01-06 Thread Robin Frost

Hi,
It is possible to do this.
Firstly add a second location whether you're at your former current 
location or not it needs there to be two locations in the app.
Then make sure all audio playing apps are closed out if they were not closed 
you might need to exit out of weather radio and come back into it.  Once 
back in Weather radio two finger double tap on the name of the location will 
bring up an alert screen giving you different items you can choose one of 
which will include delete.
Credit is offered to a dear friend who taught me about this feature of the 
program.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Brian Fischler

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Weather Radio Deleting A Location

Hey all I just moved and was surprised to learn that Weather radio which is 
a fantastic app does not just automatically know your location. I want to 
delete my old location but for the life of me cannot find anywhere in the 
app to do so. Also there does not seem to be an actions option in the rotor 
where you might be able to delete a location. Anyone know how to do this? 
Thanks,


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Re: Apple TV Question

2015-01-06 Thread Fred Olver
If that is the case, you may be able to go directly from the Apple TV to the 
sound bar.


Fred Olver
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From: Richard rqli...@rogers.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: Apple TV Question


Thanks Mary,

How do I cable it then? Right now, I have an HDMI cable from Apple Tv to my 
Sharp tv and HDMI cable from my Sharp to my sound bar.  Thanks.


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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV Question

Hi Richard,
If all you want to do is stream purely audio programming, such as your 
iTunes, or other audio sources through your Apple TV to the sound bar, you 
don't need a TV.
However, if you want to watch something on the Apple TV which has a video 
component, such as Netflix, or some other video thing, then yes, you need 
that TV connection. Or the thing won't work. It needs to see the video. That 
doesn't mean you have to use the TV for your audio. But it does mean you 
need the HDMI from your AppleTV to the television.
This is true for my first generation Apple TV. I have no reason to think it 
would be any different for the second generation, but I can't prove it. When 
I looked up the differences, the only thing I found was at the 
second-generation let you have a higher video then what I have, 1080 P 
versus whatever it is I have that I don't remember.

Mary


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On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard rqli...@rogers.com wrote:

Hi All,

Don't know if this has been covered here; hope I'm not asking out of turn.
I'm looking to stream audio from my Apple TV and wonder if I can do
this without a TV.  I have a tv but don't want to use it if possible.
Therefore, I want to have audio go directly to my sound bar.  Is this 
possible?

Thanks,

Richard




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Re: facebook app update to do or not to do?

2015-01-06 Thread wui chin Leong
i have done the update to face book

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RE: some air travel questions

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Dean,

I am in Canada and I am quite happy that the Air Canada app is very accessible 
for online check-in before my flight. I usually book with reward miles, either 
the Canadian Air Miles program or the Aeroplan program and neither of them has 
apps yet which allow for actually booking a flight from a mobile device. Both 
websites can be navigated but you do have to be pretty proficient with the Jaws 
cursor.

Anyhow, for actually booking flights I have been very happy with Expedia. I 
have just used it to book a flight for my wife from Manila, Philippines to 
Vancouver and I also used it about a year ago for booking a flight from Hong 
Kong to Manila and prior to that for some in-country flights in Thailand.
I have my information and credit card information stored as part of my account 
information and it's really a breeze to use it. The very last screen is a bit 
tricky as you have to agree to their terms and conditions and it's some sort of 
slider you have to drag up to 100%, but if I remember correctly a double tap 
and hold and then a slide to the right will do the trick. 

I have used Kayak in the past, but it's been some years. I do, however, think 
it was quite accessible as well.

I used the United Airlines app 2 years ago when I flew to Maui via Los Angeles, 
but just to track flights and be notified of delays and so on. I agree with 
Alan that Flight View is very accessible and I usually prefer it now if I 
simply want good flight tracking.

For Hotel booking, should you need that, Expedia also works well or you can use 
either Booking.com or Hotels.com. I have done some work with Booking.com and 
they were very responsive and made some very good accessibility improvements. 
Hotels.com seems to be impossible to reach regarding this and while the app is 
useable, it does have some unlabeled elements and you have to get used to it a 
bit. I'd use Booking.com except that I travel a fair bit and Hotels.com has a 
rewards program where if you book 10 nights with them you get 1 night free and 
since otherwise prices are pretty much the same that is a nice little bonus.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: some air travel questions

I'm curious which, if any, apps you have found helpful in making air
reservations, tracking flights, and also navigating to gates within
airports.  I haven't tried many apps, and it has been a long time since I
did try them.  The US Airways app did not allow me to select dates of
travel.  A couple others also failed but I don't remember what they were,
and one can always hope for progress.  

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Re: Good color identifying apps

2015-01-06 Thread Devin Prater
Then how do the stand alone detectors do it?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:20 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Colour always looks different depending on the lighting and shading in the 
 area. The person's brain makes automatic shifts in order to recognise the 
 colour. Apps are not able to do this. They always report exactly what they 
 detect. They do not make the human mental adjustments. Camera optics will not 
 help with this factor.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Jan 2015, at 08:03, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Neal, for what it’s worth, I’ve tried just about every color detection 
 app I could get my hands on and have yet to find anything that even comes 
 close to being acceptable. That was on my iPhone 4s and 5s. I haven’t done 
 this on my 6 plus yet but honestly I probably won’t bother unless there is 
 some sort of major breakthrough. I found them all to be very lacking in 
 terms of accuracy. Hopefully things will change with better optics. It would 
 certainly be wonderful to have an accurate color detector on our phones.
  
  
  
 Best regards,
  
 Rick Alfaro
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Neal Ewers
 Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Good color identifying apps
  
 Hi Eileen. This is mostly for my own curiosity. I have a stand alone device. 
 It is many years old and it is terrible. I joined this discussion just 
 because I had tried some of the iPhone apps and found that they were not, 
 for me, all that good. So, thanks for wanting to help. At the moment, it is 
 just a scientific quest, but thanks for the information in case I decide to 
 go there. I might.
  
 Neal
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:21 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps
  
 Hi Neal,
  
 I would like to know how accurate you need the colors and what types of 
 activities you would need a color app on the phone? I'm not sure who stated 
 this in an earlier post, but if I need a more accurate result, I use my 
 stand alone Colorino. This device can be purchased from Maxi-Aids, LS and S, 
 to or Independent Living Aids. I believe that the cost is about $200, but 
 don't quote me. 
  
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Well, I just installed camfind and it is, so far, about 50% accurate. I can 
 hold the object in a stationary position at the same distance from the 
 camera and take two pictures which are not often identified as being the 
 same color. So far, my wife is still more accurate than it is, and if I 
 didn’t have sighted assistance, I still don’t know if 50% is accurate 
 enough. I’ll play some more, but, so far…
  
  
 Neal
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Sandratomkins
 Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps
  
 Do try CamFind!it is free and, in my opinion, absolutely wonderful not only 
 colour recognition that it describing patterns et cetera.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 23:37, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Marie. I have also had lousy luck with the color identification apps for 
 the iPhone. I would suggest color Reno as a good standalone alternative. 
 Color test may be the best, but I don't think many blind people have upwards 
 of $800 to pay for the best. Julia.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have downloaded 2 free apps with less than satisfactory results. Could 
 anyone recommend a good app?
  
 
 
 Marie 
  Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone
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RE: some air travel questions

2015-01-06 Thread Alan Lemly
Dean,

I don't know about any good apps for booking flights or navigating to gates
but FlightView Elite is excellent for tracking flights. It gives excellent
notifications on flight status and has a lot of details about the flight
including gate numbers, weather info, etc. I'm not using the most recent
version but the version I have is very accessible with VoiceOver.

Here's the link to it in the iTunes Apps Store and it sells for $3.99:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/flightview-elite-real-time/id404643224?mt=8

Alan Lemly

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I'm curious which, if any, apps you have found helpful in making air
reservations, tracking flights, and also navigating to gates within
airports.  I haven't tried many apps, and it has been a long time since I
did try them.  The US Airways app did not allow me to select dates of
travel.  A couple others also failed but I don't remember what they were,
and one can always hope for progress.  

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RE: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
When you say using your phone to setup Apple TV do you refer to controlling 
your Apple TV with the phone? If so, then you will have to download Aple's 
Remote app which can do that.

You can, however, also use a bluetooth keyboard with an Apple TV and as far as 
I am concerned this gives you the best experience especially if you are setting 
up accounts like Netflix, Youtube and so on for the first time which means you 
will have to enter your email address and password or maybe you want to type in 
a search term quickly to maybe find a movie on Netflix.
I have a Logitech K811 which supports up to 3 devices and which is particularly 
suited for this purpose. I have it paired with my 5S, my wife's iPod Touch and 
the Apple TV and all I have to do is press F1, F2 or F3 depending on which 
device I want to use it with.
You have to set up a bluetooth keyboard on your Apple TV in Settings and I 
think it's under General and then bluetooth.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Where do you go to set up that voice over shortcut click?
I have tried that and that doesn't do anything for me.
Also, I was told you could set up your itunes account etc using your phone to 
set up apple tv.
I turned blue tooth on and put my phone by the apple tv but nothing happened.
Jen

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From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

It's a play / pause button. E.G. when music or a video is playing press it to 
pause it then press it again to resume playback. It's also used to turn 
voiceover on - E.G. press it three times like you would do using tripple click 
home.

Cheers,
Ben.

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 Hi,
 Wondering wwhat the right hand button on the apple tv remote is for?
 I know the left one is menu and the big circle are the arrows and the 
 middle of the circle is play but not sure about that button.
 Jen

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Re: Good color identifying apps

2015-01-06 Thread Andy Baracco
They scientifically measure the wavelength of the light reflected back from 
their internal light source. Because they have their own light source, and 
because you place the sensor touching the object, the amount of light is 
constant. The device is not affected at all by room light. You can use them in 
complete darkness, and they will work the same way that they would if you used 
it in a television studio.

Andy

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps
Then how do the stand alone detectors do it?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:20 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:


  Colour always looks different depending on the lighting and shading in the 
area. The person's brain makes automatic shifts in order to recognise the 
colour. Apps are not able to do this. They always report exactly what they 
detect. They do not make the human mental adjustments. Camera optics will not 
help with this factor.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 7 Jan 2015, at 08:03, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Neal, for what it’s worth, I’ve tried just about every color detection 
app I could get my hands on and have yet to find anything that even comes close 
to being acceptable. That was on my iPhone 4s and 5s. I haven’t done this on my 
6 plus yet but honestly I probably won’t bother unless there is some sort of 
major breakthrough. I found them all to be very lacking in terms of accuracy. 
Hopefully things will change with better optics. It would certainly be 
wonderful to have an accurate color detector on our phones.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Good color identifying apps

 

Hi Eileen. This is mostly for my own curiosity. I have a stand alone 
device. It is many years old and it is terrible. I joined this discussion just 
because I had tried some of the iPhone apps and found that they were not, for 
me, all that good. So, thanks for wanting to help. At the moment, it is just a 
scientific quest, but thanks for the information in case I decide to go there. 
I might.

 

Neal

 

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Of Eileen Misrahi
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps

 

Hi Neal,

 

I would like to know how accurate you need the colors and what types of 
activities you would need a color app on the phone? I'm not sure who stated 
this in an earlier post, but if I need a more accurate result, I use my stand 
alone Colorino. This device can be purchased from Maxi-Aids, LS and S, to or 
Independent Living Aids. I believe that the cost is about $200, but don't quote 
me. 

 

Eileen 


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

  Well, I just installed camfind and it is, so far, about 50% accurate. I 
can hold the object in a stationary position at the same distance from the 
camera and take two pictures which are not often identified as being the same 
color. So far, my wife is still more accurate than it is, and if I didn’t have 
sighted assistance, I still don’t know if 50% is accurate enough. I’ll play 
some more, but, so far…

   

   

  Neal

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sandratomkins
  Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Good color identifying apps

   

  Do try CamFind!it is free and, in my opinion, absolutely wonderful not 
only colour recognition that it describing patterns et cetera.

  Sent from my iPhone


  On 4 Jan 2015, at 23:37, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Marie. I have also had lousy luck with the color identification apps 
for the iPhone. I would suggest color Reno as a good standalone alternative. 
Color test may be the best, but I don't think many blind people have upwards of 
$800 to pay for the best. Julia.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Marie Lyons mlyons...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have downloaded 2 free apps with less than satisfactory results. 
Could anyone recommend a good app?

   



  Marie 

  Fixed income, hell mine is broken Sent from my iPhone

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RE: transferring music from ipod touch

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Via iTunes would be the short answer. It would help if you gave a bit more 
information especially how the music on your iPhone ended up on your iPhone 
since really the only way to get it there if it’s not jailbroken would have 
been with iTunes or if you bought the music on your phone from iTunes and it 
downloaded to your phone. If that is the case and you sign in to iTunes with 
the same Apple Id then that music would be available to be downloaded to your 
iPod Touch as well.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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cwc
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Subject: transferring music from ipod touch

 

 

I am trying to figurre out how to transfer music from my iphone to an ipod touch

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Re: Setup New Phone

2015-01-06 Thread Akbar Ega
One more question, can I do this in iOS 7? Or this is only iOS 8 features?

Regards,
Akbar Ega

 On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 As far as I know, it happens during initial setup. Whether you get to that 
 setup by resetting, or turning on a new device for the first time, shouldn't 
 matter. So long as you're at the screen that requires you to tap the button 
 to begin setup, triple clicking the home button should enable VoiceOver.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Akbar Ega akbareg...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alex, can I do the same way if I reset my phone to factory settings? Or 
 it's only possible for a brand new phone?
 Thank you
 
 Regards,
 Akbar Ega
 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 While the phone is still prompting you to set things up (that is, you're 
 not at the Home Screen), hit the home button three times quickly. This will 
 turn on VoiceOver and let you complete the process. Note that, once it is 
 set up, you'll need to go into Setings  General  Accessibility  
 Accessibility Shortcut and set it to VoiceOver. This is automatic during 
 setup, but is not so once setup is complete.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Ward Dudley whdud...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I didn't expect to buy a new phone so I haven't been following how to 
 setup a new 6+.  How do you get VoiceOver up and running from the start?
 Ward
 
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some air travel questions

2015-01-06 Thread Dean Martineau
I'm curious which, if any, apps you have found helpful in making air
reservations, tracking flights, and also navigating to gates within
airports.  I haven't tried many apps, and it has been a long time since I
did try them.  The US Airways app did not allow me to select dates of
travel.  A couple others also failed but I don't remember what they were,
and one can always hope for progress.  

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Re: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices

2015-01-06 Thread 'kathiemarburger' via VIPhone


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:00 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Sieghard and Everyone,
 
 I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion.  
 
 I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the
 features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested.  
 
 Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be
 expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed.
 Allow me to clarify my previous comments:
 
 I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2.
 
 In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on
 the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned.  This is definitely true
 with regard to screen refresh rates.  Without going into details, simply
 put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported
 on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear
 All Button problem.  However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including
 the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S.
 
 Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side
 comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today.
 
 I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and
 one in a vehicle.  The following are my conclusions:
 
 Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened
 apps on both devices and performed a system reboot.  During the test, I held
 one device in my right hand and the other in my left.
 
 1.
 Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS
 messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both
 devices.
 
 2.
 Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages,
 etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S.  Also, screen refresh rates and
 VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing
 said interruptions.
 
 3.
 The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus.
 
 Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hi Mark,
 
 I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and
 I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or
 Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know.
 
 What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running
 8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart
 from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as
 far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps.
 You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a
 big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple
 Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every
 aspect.
 
 Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy
 rivals that of Google Maps.  
 
 Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps,
 specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it
 does on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in
 mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a
 bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed.  
 
 Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to
 iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy
 to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.  
 
 Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In
 fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf
 software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one
 need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar.  
 
 Mark  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love
 
 Hi,
 Very well said Mark! I couldn't agree more with you there. Having said that
 though i'll have to admit something that probably will make me sound
 negative in this thread and i'm truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
 I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. 

Re: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices

2015-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
Since the processor in the 5s is slower, the phone would respond slower. 
Also, since the battery is not as massive, the drain would be greater.


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- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:00 PM
Subject: Using Maps, A Comparison on Two Devices


Hello Sieghard and Everyone,

I have changed the Subject line to more accurately reflect our discussion.

I was thinking about convening a group conference call to discuss the
features of Apple Maps if anyone would be interested.

Sieghard, you know, the problem with email is that, while so much can be
expressed with merely the written word, so much more cannot be expressed.
Allow me to clarify my previous comments:

I do have access to an iPhone 64GB 5 S running 8.1.2.

In general, the OS feels less responsive to me on the 5 S than it does on
the 6 Plus especially where Safari is concerned.  This is definitely true
with regard to screen refresh rates.  Without going into details, simply
put, I cannot reproduce many of the iOS 8.1.2 bugs, many have reported
on-list, on my 6 Plus; not the least of which being the Notifications Clear
All Button problem.  However, I can reproduce many of these bugs, including
the Notifications Clear All Button problem on the 5 S.

Sieghard, with your comments in mind, I decided to do a side-by-side
comparison of the Apple Maps app on both the 5 S and the 6 Plus, today.

I took both of the phones, simultaneously, on two routes, one walking and
one in a vehicle.  The following are my conclusions:

Please note that before I began my tests, I closed all previously opened
apps on both devices and performed a system reboot.  During the test, I held
one device in my right hand and the other in my left.

1.
Assuming that there are no interruptions such as incoming phone calls, SMS
messages, etc, to my surprise, the app performed identically on both
devices.

2.
Any interruptions during navigation, such as incoming calls, SMS messages,
etc caused some navigation delay on the 5 S.  Also, screen refresh rates and
VoiceOver response time was noticeably slower on the 5 S after experiencing
said interruptions.

3.
The battery drain on the 5 S was significantly greater than on the 6 Plus.

Finally, I have decided to upgrade my 5 S to 8.1.2.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hi Mark,

I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and
I'm sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or
Podcast on some place like Applevis let the list know.

What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running
8.1.2 should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart
from the larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as
far as I can tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps.
You said yourself that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hello Krister,

First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a
big difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple
Maps, the latter being much better and more streamline in almost every
aspect.

Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy
rivals that of Google Maps.

Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps,
specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it
does on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in
mind that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a
bit on those with which I have access and was not that impressed.

Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to
iOS 8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy
to walk you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.

Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In
fact, the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf
software GPS interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one
need no vision in order to play it like a fine guitar.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn't agree more with 

Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Russ Kiehne
Likewise, I'm still using ios 7.1.2 on my ipad mini.  I've been using ios 8 
on my ipod touch and the biggest issue to me is the Safari bug!  I hope the 
next release of ios 8 will address this issue?


-Original Message- 
From: Kelly Pierce

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

I’m still waiting for more bug fixes with VoiceOver in iOS 8 before
upgrading and sending a love letter. I continue to use iOS 7.06 and am
waiting for more bug fixes before upgrading.

Kelly




On 1/6/15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:

Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said 
that

though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound
negative in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably 
used

it too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going
through the use of Apple maps?
The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained
about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i
figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it 
is

now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
/Krister


6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:

Hello Everyone,

Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus
running
8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive to commands,
the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the versatility
seemingly limitless.

I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 90s
when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually prefer
to
hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like a
normal-size
receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, also.  I could
go
on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 Plus but doing so is
not
the purpose of this post.

Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now
using
the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software GPS
navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T
Navigator.


Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a
level
of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides cross-street
announcements that sighted travelers do not require.

Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their
iOS
Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge that
unlike so many other mapping services, they did not forget those of us
who
are blind or low vision.

At a time when so many of us, humans that is, are so fast to point out
flaws
and so slow to offer compliments, I wanted Apple to know that I owe a
great
deal of my ever-increasing independence to their consideration and
efforts.

So, the reason I am posting is to invite you to send Apple some love by
sending in some positive feedback about whatever you like about their
products.  For example, today I submitted comments about how much I am
truly
enjoying the iOS 8.1.2 Apple Maps app via VoiceOver.

You may send Apple feedback via it's feedback portal at:
http://www.apple.com/feedback

Let's All Make a Joyful Noise This Year.

Mark

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Two IPhones

2015-01-06 Thread Marie
I am currently with Verizon and have two separate lines. Is it possible to 
assign a different ringtone to a contact which is present on both phones. ? In 
other words Contact will have a special ringtone on phone 1 and a different 
ringtone on phone2.
Marie

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Re: An apple TV and Netflix question

2015-01-06 Thread Patti Johnson
I agree. I am disappointed with Netflix, but I guess they have some good 
things; but when I used to rent from them they had tons more than they 
do on their digital channels.

Patti
On 1/6/2015 12:35 PM, Merv Keck wrote:


Hi,

Netflix has a bad habit of category management . I spent a half hour 
this morning trying to search faith and spirituality on the Apple TV 
until I finally gave up. Sad Face!


Merv

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Re: Sim card in unlocked phone

2015-01-06 Thread Marie
Is this true if you already have LTE and a data plan on the phone from winch 
you are removing the card?
M


From: hebertisaa...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sim card in unlocked phone

Yes that is possible. 
You can switch between them no problem but if you want LTE  you will need a new 
sim card and a data plan. 

Here is the link to wheir I found this information.  I could be wrong so try at 
your own risk. 

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1636574


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote:


  I have heard someone speak of switching their sim card back and forth between 
two different phone, including an Android and an IPhone. Is this possible 
without altering the phones in any way? Also if you buy an unlocked phone then 
put an existing sim card in it, are you charged an activation fee from your 
carrier?
  Marie

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RE: Apple accessibility

2015-01-06 Thread Neal Ewers
Marie, It’s \

877-204-3930

 

Neal

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple accessibility

 

I have misplaced the phone number for the Apple Accessibility, so could someone 
please re-post. Sorry and this time I will put it in my contacts like a good 
little Doobie.

Marie

 

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RE: How do you turn the phanetic keyboard off on the apple tv

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I don’t think you can turn the phonetic keyboard off and no, you can’t turn the 
Apple TV off unless you unplug the power cable.

 

Also, as for your other question about the right button on the Apple TV remote, 
it is Play/Pause.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Jen Colley
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:20 AM
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Subject: How do you turn the phanetic keyboard off on the apple tv

 

Hi,  

I am wondering how you turn the phanetic keyboard off on the apple tv.  

Also, can you turn the apple tv box off completely or does it just always stay 
on?  

Jen  

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Re: facebook app update to do or not to do?

2015-01-06 Thread Feliciano G
Its good to go.

  Regards, Feliciano



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Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:44 AM, Davy Cuppens davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks
 I see there is an app update for facebook. Are there folks that have
 already done this update? I've become careful in doing app update
 because of accessibility problems afterwards especially with the
 facebook app.
 Regards
 Davy
 
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Sim card in unlocked phone

2015-01-06 Thread Marie
I have heard someone speak of switching their sim card back and forth between 
two different phone, including an Android and an IPhone. Is this possible 
without altering the phones in any way? Also if you buy an unlocked phone then 
put an existing sim card in it, are you charged an activation fee from your 
carrier?
Marie

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RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Krister,

First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a big 
difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, the 
latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect.

Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy 
rivals that of Google Maps.  

Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, 
specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it does 
on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in mind 
that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a bit on 
those with which I have access and was not that impressed.  

Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 
8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to walk 
you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.  

Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In fact, 
the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf software GPS 
interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one need no vision 
in order to play it like a fine guitar.  

Mark  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said that 
though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative 
in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably used it 
too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going through 
the use of Apple maps?
The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained 
about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i 
figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it is 
now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
/Krister

 6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus 
 running 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive 
 to commands, the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the 
 versatility seemingly limitless.
 
 I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 
 90s when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually 
 prefer to hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like 
 a normal-size receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, 
 also.  I could go on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 
 Plus but doing so is not the purpose of this post.
 
 Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now 
 using the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software 
 GPS navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T 
 Navigator.
 
 
 Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a 
 level of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides 
 cross-street announcements that sighted travelers do not require.
 
 Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their 
 iOS Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge 
 that unlike so many other mapping services, they did not forget those 
 of us who are blind or low vision.
 
 At a time when so many of us, humans that is, are so fast to point out 
 flaws and so slow to offer compliments, I wanted Apple to know that I 
 owe a great deal of my ever-increasing independence to their consideration 
 and efforts.
 
 So, the reason I am posting is to invite you to send Apple some love 
 by sending in some positive feedback about whatever you like about 
 their products.  For example, today I submitted comments about how 
 much I am truly enjoying the iOS 8.1.2 Apple Maps app via VoiceOver.
 
 You may send Apple feedback via it's feedback portal at:
 http://www.apple.com/feedback
 
 Let's All Make a Joyful Noise This Year.
 
 Mark
 
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automatic downloads

2015-01-06 Thread Lori Dent
Hi Sieghard and all,

When I go into settings and go  to iTunes and app store and under the automatic 
 download heading I do have updates turned off so that I will get notified when 
there is an update  to manually  download the apps I want. 

But I also was wanting to know under the same heading do I also turn off  apps 
or do I leave it turned on? Wouldn't apps be the same thing as updates because  
updates is allowing me to update my apps I already have to a  newest version of 
what ever app is being updated.

Lori and the Gipper

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To Unlock or Not?

2015-01-06 Thread Alan Lemly
I have my iPhone 5 service with ATT and in early February my original
2-year contract period will expire. I've gotten the website where I can
unlock the phone at that time but I'm wondering if I should if I intend to
stay with ATT. I know an unlocked phone should be easier to sell but I
don't want to change how it functions if I continue to use it unlocked with
ATT.

 

Can someone more learned in these matters please comment?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Apple accessibility

2015-01-06 Thread Marie
I have misplaced the phone number for the Apple Accessibility, so could someone 
please re-post. Sorry and this time I will put it in my contacts like a good 
little Doobie.
Marie

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RE: To Unlock or Not?

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Unlocking it won’t make a difference if you continue to use ith with ATT, but 
as you said, if you do unlock it and down the road want to sell it then it’s 
done and a lot easier to get rid of.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Unlock or Not?

 

I have my iPhone 5 service with ATT and in early February my original 2-year 
contract period will expire. I've gotten the website where I can unlock the 
phone at that time but I'm wondering if I should if I intend to stay with ATT. 
I know an unlocked phone should be easier to sell but I don't want to change 
how it functions if I continue to use it unlocked with ATT.

 

Can someone more learned in these matters please comment?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Sim card in unlocked phone

2015-01-06 Thread Kelly Pierce
It really depends.  Some Android phones support the nanno sim found in
the iPhone 5 and 6 series.   For others, an adapter is needed.
Realize this will work only on unlocked phones that support GSM.

Kelly




On 1/6/15, hebertisaa...@gmail.com hebertisaa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes that is possible.
 You can switch between them no problem but if you want LTE  you will need a
 new sim card and a data plan.

 Here is the link to wheir I found this information.  I could be wrong so try
 at your own risk.

 http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1636574


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote:

 I have heard someone speak of switching their sim card back and forth
 between two different phone, including an Android and an IPhone. Is this
 possible without altering the phones in any way? Also if you buy an
 unlocked phone then put an existing sim card in it, are you charged an
 activation fee from your carrier?
 Marie

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An apple tv and netflix question

2015-01-06 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I finally got my apple tv set up and have a netflix subscription.  
I have noticed that in looking at the categories and then searching for 
specific things there are some things that don’t show up in the categories but 
when I search they come up so I am wondering why this is?  
Jen  

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Re: Two IPhones

2015-01-06 Thread hebertisaac99
Yes you can do that.

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 Yes that is possible.
  
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 I am currently with Verizon and have two separate lines. Is it possible to 
 assign a different ringtone to a contact which is present on both phones. ? 
 In other words Contact will have a special ringtone on phone 1 and a 
 different ringtone on phone2.
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RE: An apple TV and Netflix question

2015-01-06 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

Netflix has a bad habit of category management . I spent a half hour this
morning trying to search faith and spirituality on the Apple TV until I
finally gave up. Sad Face!

Merv

 

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What's the button on the right hand corner on the apple tv used for

2015-01-06 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
Wondering wwhat the right hand button on the apple tv remote is for?  
I know the left one is menu and the big circle are the arrows and the middle of 
the circle is play but not sure about that button.  
Jen  

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Re: Two IPhones

2015-01-06 Thread Marie
Does this work even if you have contacts on ICloud?

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They are customizable, so, yes, you can.

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RE: Apple accessibility

2015-01-06 Thread Alan Lemly
I agree with Neal for the Apple Accessibility Support phone number. The
number provided by Teresa was Apple US iPhone Technical Support.

 

And for those interested, here's the Apple Accessibility Support email
address:

 

accessibil...@apple.com

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Marie, It's \

877-204-3930

 

Neal

 

 

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I have misplaced the phone number for the Apple Accessibility, so could
someone please re-post. Sorry and this time I will put it in my contacts
like a good little Doobie.

Marie

 

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RE: Two IPhones

2015-01-06 Thread Jennie Facer
Yes that is possible.

 

Jenn

 

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Subject: Two IPhones

 

I am currently with Verizon and have two separate lines. Is it possible to 
assign a different ringtone to a contact which is present on both phones. ? In 
other words Contact will have a special ringtone on phone 1 and a different 
ringtone on phone2.

Marie

 

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Re: Sim card in unlocked phone

2015-01-06 Thread hebertisaac99
Yes that is possible. 
You can switch between them no problem but if you want LTE  you will need a new 
sim card and a data plan. 
 
Here is the link to wheir I found this information.  I could be wrong so try at 
your own risk. 
 
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1636574
 

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 I have heard someone speak of switching their sim card back and forth  
 between two different phone, including an Android and an IPhone. Is this 
 possible without altering the phones in any way? Also if you buy an unlocked 
 phone then put an existing sim card in it, are you charged an activation fee 
 from your carrier?
 Marie
  
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RE: Apple accessibility

2015-01-06 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi, The number I gave is evidently a more general number. They also do iPhone 
support. Teresa's number seems to be a more specific iPhone support number. I'm 
guessing they will both work in that I have used the one I sent to get iPhone 
support as well.

Neal


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Teresa Christian
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple accessibility

Here is the Apple Accessability Tec Support: 800-694-7466

On 1/6/15, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have misplaced the phone number for the Apple Accessibility, so 
 could someone please re-post. Sorry and this time I will put it in my 
 contacts like a good little Doobie.
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How do you turn the phanetic keyboard off on the apple tv

2015-01-06 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I am wondering how you turn the phanetic keyboard off on the apple tv.  
Also, can you turn the apple tv box off completely or does it just always stay 
on?  
Jen  

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Re: Two IPhones

2015-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
They are customizable, so, yes, you can.

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  I am currently with Verizon and have two separate lines. Is it possible to 
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Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Christina C.
Mark,

Thanks for sharing all this info. I have been waiting for my iPhone 6 plus for 
a couple of weeks now and I am quite nervous about whether I will like it or 
not due to the size. I keep imagining this giant slab of metal against my face 
when talking on the phone. LOL! I wanted the extra battery life and the image 
stabilization on the camera and am willing to give it a whirl. :) I have to get 
a new purse though. LOL!

I have never been able to figure out apple maps. When you ask Siri to navigate 
to a specific place and she does, is she accessing apple maps? That is the 
absolute most I’ve ever been able to do. I only do that when someone is driving 
me somewhere. Otherwise, I’ve tried to use apple maps to take a walk in my 
neighborhood and then ask apple maps to take me home and I just cannot get it 
to work at all. Then I can’t figure out how to use apple maps to find out where 
I am in my neighborhood. I wanted to learn the layout of my neighborhood. :( 
Anyways, if you know of a good podcast for apple maps, please let me know.

Thanks,
Christina

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RE: How About Sending Apple Some Love

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Mark,

I would be quite interested in your walk-through of Apple Maps as well and I'm 
sure others are, so please do post it online or, if you do a review or Podcast 
on some place like Applevis let the list know.

What I don't logically understand is why Apple Maps on a 6 Plus running 8.1.2 
should be a much better experience than on a 5S running 8.1.2. Apart from the 
larger screen there is little difference between the two phones as far as I can 
tell when it comes to the components which effect Apple Maps. You said yourself 
that you did not have 8.1.2 installed on your 5S.


Regards,
Sieghard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello Krister,

First let me say that, from a VoiceOver perspective especially, there is a big 
difference between the iOS 7.1.2 and the iOS 8.1.2 version of Apple Maps, the 
latter being much better and more streamline in almost every aspect.

Second, Apple Maps now uses Tom-Tom as it's mapping source so its accuracy 
rivals that of Google Maps.  

Third, in my opinion only, version 8.1.2, in general, and Apple Maps, 
specifically, does not perform as well on the 5 S and earlier models as it does 
on the 6 series.  The difference to me at least is astonishing. Keep in mind 
that while I did not install 8.1.2 on my own 5 S, I did use it quite a bit on 
those with which I have access and was not that impressed.  

Finally, as I really don't like Apple Maps 7.1.2, when you have access to iOS 
8.1.2, please send me your contact info, off-list, and I will be happy to walk 
you through the Apple Maps, so to speak.  

Using the app is so simple once several key concepts are understood.  In fact, 
the Apple Maps app is the simplest and most accurate off-the-shelf software GPS 
interface I've ever used on iOS. And the best part is that one need no vision 
in order to play it like a fine guitar.  

Mark  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How About Sending Apple Some Love

Hi,
Very well said Mark! I couldn’t agree more with you there. Having said that 
though i’ll have to admit something that probably will make me sound negative 
in this thread and i’m truly sorry for that. Ok here goes:
I can for the life of me not get tha hang of Apple maps. I’ve probably used it 
too few times. Is there maybe somewhere i can listen to a podcast going through 
the use of Apple maps?
The reason why i never got around to using Maps was that people complained 
about its inaccuracy and missinformation at the time it was released so i 
figured i wouldn’t touch the thing until it got fixed, and apparently it is 
now, so i’d love to figure the beast out.
/Krister

 6 jan 2015 kl. 04:07 skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 Okay, I am completely and totally in love with my new iPhone 6 Plus 
 running 8.1.2.  It's really that simple.  The phone is so responsive 
 to commands, the battery life is amazing, relatively speaking, and the 
 versatility seemingly limitless.
 
 I have not truly enjoyed conversing on a mobile phone since the early 
 90s when phones were much larger.  However, with my 6 Plus, I actually 
 prefer to hold the phone up to my face, during calls, as it feels like 
 a normal-size receiver.  The sound quality on the 6/6 Plus is awesome, 
 also.  I could go on and on about the marvelous properties of the 6 
 Plus but doing so is not the purpose of this post.
 
 Although I never dreamed it would happen, I have to say that I am now 
 using the iOS Apple Maps more than any other, off-the-shelf software 
 GPS navigation solution.  Yes, I am even liking it more than A T  T 
 Navigator.
 
 
 Please note that this does not include Seeing Eye GPS as it provides a 
 level of feedback that is unparalleled in that it provides 
 cross-street announcements that sighted travelers do not require.
 
 Earlier today, I sent a letter to Apple thanking them for making their 
 iOS Apple Maps so very VoiceOver accessible.  I wanted to acknowledge 
 that unlike so many other mapping services, they did not forget those 
 of us who are blind or low vision.
 
 At a time when so many of us, humans that is, are so fast to point out 
 flaws and so slow to offer compliments, I wanted Apple to know that I 
 owe a great deal of my ever-increasing independence to their consideration 
 and efforts.
 
 So, the reason I am posting is to invite you to send Apple some love 
 by sending in some positive feedback about whatever you like about 
 their products.  For example, today I submitted comments about how 
 much I am truly enjoying the iOS 8.1.2 Apple Maps app via VoiceOver.
 
 You may send Apple feedback via it's feedback portal at:
 

Re: Apple accessibility

2015-01-06 Thread Teresa Christian
Here is the Apple Accessability Tec Support: 800-694-7466

On 1/6/15, Marie scribbl...@comcast.net wrote:
 I have misplaced the phone number for the Apple Accessibility, so could
 someone please re-post. Sorry and this time I will put it in my contacts
 like a good little Doobie.
 Marie

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RE: automatic downloads

2015-01-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi ori,

 

You may want to read through my first message again as I explain this there.

 

Turning off updates will take care of downloading updates automatically, if it 
is turned off that won’t happen.

Turning off Apps just means that if you buy an app on another device it won’t 
automatically download to your iPhone. This includes buying apps via iTunes on 
the computer or maybe you have an iPad or iPod Touch. If, for example, you have 
Apps turned on and you buy let’s say Camfind on your iPad, it would also 
automatically download to your iPhone. The same applies to music and books.

If you don’t have more than one iOS device and if you don’t buy stuff via 
iTunes it really doesn’t matter. If you want full control whether anything is 
downloaded to your iPhone then just turn everything under automatic downloads 
off.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Lori Dent
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: automatic downloads

 

Hi Sieghard and all,

 

When I go into settings and go  to iTunes and app store and under the automatic 
 download heading I do have updates turned off so that I will get notified when 
there is an update  to manually  download the apps I want. 

 

But I also was wanting to know under the same heading do I also turn off  apps 
or do I leave it turned on? Wouldn't apps be the same thing as updates because  
updates is allowing me to update my apps I already have to a  newest version of 
what ever app is being updated.

 

Lori and the Gipper

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Re: Does anyone use the A D T security pulse app

2015-01-06 Thread Steve
When they came to show it to me, a couple years ago, it worked with their 
iPhone.  I had them enable Voiceover on their phone and at least the basic 
functions worked.

YMMV, as they may have a newer version of the app now.

Steve
Lansing, MI
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Subject: Does anyone use the A D T security pulse app


Hi, I was thinking about updating our A D T alarm system to the palse 
program which requires an app. It is available on the iPhone, but I don’t 
know if it is accessible. Thus, my question. Thanks for any help.



Neal




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Re: facebook app update to do or not to do?

2015-01-06 Thread Feliciano G
Yes app store

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 Is the Facebook app something that I will need to download from the app store?
 Wouldn't mind giving this a try at some point.
 
 
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 Hi folks
 I see there is an app update for facebook. Are there folks that have already 
 done this update? I've become careful in doing app update because of 
 accessibility problems afterwards especially with the facebook app.
 Regards
 Davy
 
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