RE: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Richard Turner]

I just wonder if that price was for the Mac version or the iOS version.  If for 
the iOS version, that is too high in my opinion.

 

I've let the owners know that.

I personally feel that $59.99 per year would be reasonable.

I have used the app since at least version 2 and have been a beta tester for 
Winston Chen for at least 10 years and even though I purchased the app at the 
one time purchase deal, I would be fine if I had to start paying $59.99 per 
year.

I think it is by far the best reading app on the market today.

 

I am not impressed with Bookshare's new BookShare Reader app.  Nor am I very 
impressed with the DAISY Easy Reader app.

 

Later,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ivan Icin
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:49 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

 

At this point I am not sure to what you refer to, but if you refer to reviews 
they are on the iOS version of the app and they are very recent, like just few 
days ago.

 

So at least some people were asked to pay 100$/year recently in the iOS app.

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 6:24:31 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

Well, you are correct, of course.  At least, mostly.

 

However, the subscription started while Winston Chen owned Voice Dream Reader 
for the Mac computers only.

 

Winston was going to add the subscription to the iOS version, but he sold the 
company before he did that.

So, the Applause group implemented the subscription model for all versions.

 

So, if someone was asked to pay $100 last year, that would likely have been the 
Mac version.  

 

At least, that is what I understand and I could of course be wrong.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Icin
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To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

 

Looking at the web site it seems that I can read there what you sad that is in 
the App Store too. So probably a week or two ago when I checked it was 
different. It probably means that they have finally settled to that 80$ price 
point (it could be that they are still experimenting with non-US markets or 
that those markets will take more time to update the listings due to lower 
sales volume). You can read in the reviews that there are people in the US that 
were asked to pay 99$/year, so certainly that price was there very recently.

 

Anyway I did say that their most common price point was 80$ or 90$ (I wasn't 
sure which one as that was from my mind), so what you said isn't diametrically 
opposed to what I said.

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:41:42 PM UTC+2 Ivan Icin wrote:

I think that I had that information from the website for the US App Store. 

In my country the pricing is in EUR, so I don’t think that I have looked there, 
currently there are 6 annual subscriptions with prices 45-130 EUR. 

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

I just checked in the app store and only found one price in the US: Annual 
Subscription$79.99.

Also listed are the various voices you can purchase at $4.99 each.

 

What country are you in?

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Icin
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 1:42 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

 

You have information on pricing in the App Store.  Currently they are 
experimenting with something like 5 price points. In general in such cases 
developers randomly assign those to users to see what price points brings the 
most money to them. As the App Store arranges those by the one that is 
currently most frequently used, I think that their most likely price is 
currently 80 or 90$/year. There is one higher price point than that and several 
lower

 

So at the moment the app doesn’t have a uniform price. But it seems that you 
are much more likely to be charged close to 100$/year than 50$/year, which is 
the overall range that they use. 

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:26:12 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

Where did 

Announcement from Winston Chen

[Richard Turner]

Dear Customers, Partners, and Friends,

I am delighted to announce that Voice Dream Reader has joined Applause Group as 
a leading product in their portfolio of apps.

Voice Dream Reader started 12 years ago as a side project during my sabbatical 
in Arctic Norway. Since then, it has evolved into the best text-to-speech 
reader, helping hundreds of thousands of people worldwide read for learning and 
fun. Winning Apple Design Award in 2021 was the crowning achievement of my 
professional life.

But I could not have done it without the users. You constantly provided me with 
ideas for improvements and inspired me with your personal stories of how Reader 
changed your lives. And I could not have done it without my partners and 
friends who supported me at every step. For that, I will be forever grateful.

While I look at the past with nostalgia, I also look to the future with 
excitement. Applause Group is committed to investing in Reader and turning it 
into a household name. It will be stewarded by a sustainable company instead of 
being completely dependent on me. And that is good news for everyone who relies 
on Reader every day.

With Reader going to a new home, Voice Dream Scanner and Writer will remain 
with me under a different company, Opus Noma. (Noma stands for my children Nora 
and Marcus.) And they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite. My new email 
address is winston.c...@opusnoma.com  .

Happy reading, as we all look forward to a bright future.

Winston.

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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RE: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Richard Turner]

Well, you are correct, of course.  At least, mostly.

 

However, the subscription started while Winston Chen owned Voice Dream Reader 
for the Mac computers only.

 

Winston was going to add the subscription to the iOS version, but he sold the 
company before he did that.

So, the Applause group implemented the subscription model for all versions.

 

So, if someone was asked to pay $100 last year, that would likely have been the 
Mac version.  

 

At least, that is what I understand and I could of course be wrong.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ivan Icin
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 8:56 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

 

Looking at the web site it seems that I can read there what you sad that is in 
the App Store too. So probably a week or two ago when I checked it was 
different. It probably means that they have finally settled to that 80$ price 
point (it could be that they are still experimenting with non-US markets or 
that those markets will take more time to update the listings due to lower 
sales volume). You can read in the reviews that there are people in the US that 
were asked to pay 99$/year, so certainly that price was there very recently.

 

Anyway I did say that their most common price point was 80$ or 90$ (I wasn't 
sure which one as that was from my mind), so what you said isn't diametrically 
opposed to what I said.

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 5:41:42 PM UTC+2 Ivan Icin wrote:

I think that I had that information from the website for the US App Store. 

In my country the pricing is in EUR, so I don’t think that I have looked there, 
currently there are 6 annual subscriptions with prices 45-130 EUR. 

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

I just checked in the app store and only found one price in the US: Annual 
Subscription$79.99.

Also listed are the various voices you can purchase at $4.99 each.

 

What country are you in?

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ivan 
Icin
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 1:42 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

 

You have information on pricing in the App Store.  Currently they are 
experimenting with something like 5 price points. In general in such cases 
developers randomly assign those to users to see what price points brings the 
most money to them. As the App Store arranges those by the one that is 
currently most frequently used, I think that their most likely price is 
currently 80 or 90$/year. There is one higher price point than that and several 
lower

 

So at the moment the app doesn’t have a uniform price. But it seems that you 
are much more likely to be charged close to 100$/year than 50$/year, which is 
the overall range that they use. 

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:26:12 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

Where did you get that price from?

That is much higher than had been announced.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Jun 22, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Ivan Icin mailto:labsii...@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

I had too many typos, so here is corrected version with few more words:

Voice Dream is now a free app, so from the aspect of Apple that acquired 
license is now worth 0$. Also take that free with a bit of grain as it now 
actually costs around 100$/year to be used, just it is free to download. If you 
already own the license in general you don’t need to pay the new price, but the 
system isn’t bulletproof as Apple doesn’t support such a transition and it it 
technically possible that some users might need to pay, though that should be a 
very tiny ratio. 

 

Other that that  when it was a paid app Family Sharing was meant only for 
in-app purchases, and this is Apple’s policy for all paid apps. 

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC+2 Tim wrote:

That is a good question...:) 
I had the same issue. 
Tim 

On 6/22/23, leoba...@gmail.com <mailto:leoba...@gmail.com>  mailto:leoba...@gmail.com> > wrote: 
> Hello. Someone I know is having issues with Voice Dream Reader and family 
> sharing. This person bought VDR time ago when it was acquired through 
> one-time payment. However, 

RE: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Richard Turner]

I just checked in the app store and only found one price in the US: Annual 
Subscription$79.99.

Also listed are the various voices you can purchase at $4.99 each.

 

What country are you in?

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ivan Icin
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 1:42 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

 

You have information on pricing in the App Store.  Currently they are 
experimenting with something like 5 price points. In general in such cases 
developers randomly assign those to users to see what price points brings the 
most money to them. As the App Store arranges those by the one that is 
currently most frequently used, I think that their most likely price is 
currently 80 or 90$/year. There is one higher price point than that and several 
lower

 

So at the moment the app doesn’t have a uniform price. But it seems that you 
are much more likely to be charged close to 100$/year than 50$/year, which is 
the overall range that they use. 

On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 1:26:12 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:

Where did you get that price from?

That is much higher than had been announced.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 22, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Ivan Icin mailto:labsii...@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

I had too many typos, so here is corrected version with few more words:

Voice Dream is now a free app, so from the aspect of Apple that acquired 
license is now worth 0$. Also take that free with a bit of grain as it now 
actually costs around 100$/year to be used, just it is free to download. If you 
already own the license in general you don’t need to pay the new price, but the 
system isn’t bulletproof as Apple doesn’t support such a transition and it it 
technically possible that some users might need to pay, though that should be a 
very tiny ratio. 

 

Other that that  when it was a paid app Family Sharing was meant only for 
in-app purchases, and this is Apple’s policy for all paid apps. 

On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC+2 Tim wrote:

That is a good question...:) 
I had the same issue. 
Tim 

On 6/22/23, leoba...@gmail.com <mailto:leoba...@gmail.com>  mailto:leoba...@gmail.com> > wrote: 
> Hello. Someone I know is having issues with Voice Dream Reader and family 
> sharing. This person bought VDR time ago when it was acquired through 
> one-time payment. However, now he wants to share VDR but a message pops up 
> saying that it is not possible. Is anyone having this issue? 
> 
> 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Leo Bado 
> 
> 
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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Richard Turner]

It is at the default. Since I am totally blind, I never activated the larger fonts under accessibility,  display and font size. But when I was teaching low-vision users they often needed to increase the font size and I ran into that issue. Also, folks who use the zoom feature under accessibility would experience that.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 22, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Mike B.  wrote:




Richard,
 
What do you have your font size set to?  Thanks 
much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting
Mike,
I'm glad that worked. Depending on font sizes and such, sometimes screens 
just don't scroll when you are just flicking right with one finger. But, I've 
found that the three finger swipe up always works.




Richard, USA.
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believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is 
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My web site: 
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On Jun 22, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Mike B. 
   wrote:

   
  
  Richard,
   
  Well I'll be damned!  LOL  I just tried your 
  suggestion of swiping up with 3 fingers and the System Haptics on / off button 
  and the explanation for this action are there!  I need to call Apple 
  right now to let them no!  Thank you so very much!
  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go 
  Dodgers! 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting
  That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume 
  you tried flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen. 
  Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share 
  with you to figure out what is happening.
  Good luck,
  
  
  
  
  Richard, USA.
  “What we think or what we know or what we 
  believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is 
  what we do” ~ John Ruskin
  My web site: 
  https://www.turner42.com
  
  
  On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B. 
 wrote:
  
 

  The last thing I have in the Sounds and 
Haptics folder is, Silent mode and the explanation of silent mode.  
Thank you for your reply.Take care.  Mike.  Sent 
from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
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From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

At the bottom of that screen mine says:System Haptics on. 

I can toggle it on or off.




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believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence 
is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> 
  wrote:

   
  
  

  Howdy All,
   
  I'm curious as to if any others are missing this 
  setting, Turn System Haptics on or off toggle 
  button, in, Settings / Sounds and 
  Haptics
   
  My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 
  iPhones, but have been missing this setting at least back to early 
  iOS16... as near as we can figure.
   
  I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and 
  they've taken screen shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple 
  engineers, but before I reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was 
  curious if anyone else is missing this settings.  Another thought is, 
  if this setting is missing, could other settings be missing that we're not 
  aware of?
  All input regarding this issue is greatly 
  appreciated.  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

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Where did you get that price from?That is much higher than had been announced.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 22, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:I had too many typos, so here is corrected version with few more words:Voice Dream is now a free app, so from the aspect of Apple that acquired license is now worth 0$. Also take that free with a bit of grain as it now actually costs around 100$/year to be used, just it is free to download. If you already own the license in general you don’t need to pay the new price, but the system isn’t bulletproof as Apple doesn’t support such a transition and it it technically possible that some users might need to pay, though that should be a very tiny ratio. Other that that  when it was a paid app Family Sharing was meant only for in-app purchases, and this is Apple’s policy for all paid apps. On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:45:39 PM UTC+2 Tim wrote:That is a good question...:)
I had the same issue.
Tim

On 6/22/23, leoba...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hello. Someone I know is having issues with Voice Dream Reader and family
> sharing. This person bought VDR time ago when it was acquired through
> one-time payment. However, now he wants to share VDR but a message pops up
> saying that it is not possible. Is anyone having this issue?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Leo Bado
>
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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Richard Turner]

Mike,I'm glad that worked. Depending on font sizes and such, sometimes screens just don't scroll when you are just flicking right with one finger. But, I've found that the three finger swipe up always works.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 22, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Mike B.  wrote:




Richard,
 
Well I'll be damned!  LOL  I just tried your 
suggestion of swiping up with 3 fingers and the System Haptics on / off button 
and the explanation for this action are there!  I need to call Apple right 
now to let them no!  Thank you so very much!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting
That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume 
you tried flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.
Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share with 
you to figure out what is happening.
Good luck,




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we 
believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is 
what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: 
https://www.turner42.com


On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B. 
   wrote:

   
  
    The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics 
  folder is, Silent mode and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for 
  your reply.Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
  iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting
  
  At the bottom of that screen mine says:System Haptics on. 
  
  I can toggle it on or off.
  
  
  
  
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  “What we think or what we know or what we 
  believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is 
  what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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  On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> 
wrote:
  
 



Howdy All,
 
I'm curious as to if any others are missing this 
setting, Turn System Haptics on or off toggle 
button, in, Settings / Sounds and 
Haptics
 
My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 
iPhones, but have been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... 
as near as we can figure.
 
I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and 
they've taken screen shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple 
engineers, but before I reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious 
if anyone else is missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this 
setting is missing, could other settings be missing that we're not aware 
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All input regarding this issue is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Richard Turner]

That is very odd. System haptecs is the next one down. I assume you tried flicking up with three fingers to scroll the screen.Perhaps calling Apple Accessibility and having them do a screen share with you to figure out what is happening.Good luck,Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 22, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Mike B.  wrote:




  The last thing I have in the Sounds and Haptics 
folder is, Silent mode and the explanation of silent mode.  Thank you for 
your reply.Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

At the bottom of that screen mine says:System Haptics on.

I can toggle it on or off.




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On Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> 
  wrote:

   
  
  

  Howdy All,
   
  I'm curious as to if any others are missing this 
  setting, Turn System Haptics on or off toggle 
  button, in, Settings / Sounds and 
  Haptics
   
  My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 
  iPhones, but have been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as 
  near as we can figure.
   
  I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and 
  they've taken screen shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple 
  engineers, but before I reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if 
  anyone else is missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this 
  setting is missing, could other settings be missing that we're not aware 
  of?
  All input regarding this issue is greatly 
  appreciated.  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
  iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 
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Re: Sounds and Haptics Missing Setting

[Richard Turner]

At the bottom of that screen mine says:System Haptics on.I can toggle it on or off.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 22, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Mike B.  wrote:






Howdy All,
 
I'm curious as to if any others are missing this setting, 
Turn System Haptics on or off toggle button, in, Settings / Sounds and Haptics
 
My wife and I both are running iOS16.5.1 on SE2022 
iPhones, but have been missing this setting at least back to early iOS16... as 
near as we can figure.
 
I've been in contact with Apple Accessibility and they've 
taken screen shots of my iOS and have sent them to the Apple engineers, but 
before I reinstall our iOS for a minor setting I was curious if anyone else is 
missing this settings.  Another thought is, if this setting is missing, 
could other settings be missing that we're not aware of?
All input regarding this issue is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my 
iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 



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Re: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16

[Richard Turner]

The level app has been around a long time before iOS 16. I agree it is a great 
tool. 




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> On Jun 21, 2023, at 8:11 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark, 
> 
> I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I obviously have old technology where my 
> washing machine is concerned. But I really dome like technology that tries to 
> think for me but a washing machine that never got out of balance would be 
> nice. 
> 
> Glad you got it working right and I'll wish you're machine thousands of 
> balanced washes with no more walks of shame. 
> 
> Alan 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2023, at 7:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alan,
>> 
>> It is good to hear from you.
>> 
>> Yes, I would have thought so, also but in 4 years, my washer has not 
>> required that I redistribute the load.  This model has an amazing gyroscope 
>> built in to the basket.
>> 
>> In fact, one reason why it took me so long to address the problem is because 
>> having to occasionally redistribute the load is a normal thing.
>> 
>> Then, one day, it occurred to me that for the past 4 years, I had never had 
>> the occasion to redistribute anything.
>> 
>> Since leveling the machine, I've done 10 full capacity loads and there isn't 
>> even the hint of having to redistribute anything.
>> 
>> In fact, 2 days ago, when the machine finished, I opened the lid and noticed 
>> that the load had shifted and was not eveningly distributed.  Regardless, 
>> the machine ran as smooth as Tupelo honey.  That gyroscope is amazing.  All 
>> it requires is that the physical frame be leveled.
>> 
>> You know, since then, I've been using my iPhone 14 to randomly check the 
>> levels of everything around my house and I find that almost nothing in this 
>> place is level.  Wow!!!  I'm thinking that there is definitely such a thing 
>> as having too much information (smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
>> Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 10:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 
>> 16
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> This was very interesting with excellent detail about the iOS Level app. I 
>> suspect that even with a perfectly level washer, you will experience 
>> occasions especially when laundering bed linens, blankets, and towels that 
>> they will get out of balance in your washer causing it to shake, rattle, and 
>> roll and necessitating that you simply open the lid and redistribute 
>> everything evenly. Of course, you are free to revisit the level project 
>> again if you have that time available.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 5:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I have been meaning to post to the list for quite a while but time just 
>> keeps slipping away.
>> 
>> Anyway, a while back, my top-loading washer began doing the walk of shame 
>> across the floor during the high-speed portion of the spin cycle.  Now It 
>> was not doing this every spin cycle but only when I had the basket loaded 
>> with heavy bedding.
>> 
>> Anyway, again with that time slipping away thing, I let it go on for far too 
>> long.
>> 
>> Finally, one day, I decided to either resolve the problem on my own or hire 
>> someone to do it for me.
>> 
>> Of course, I knew that the problem was that the machine needed to be leveled 
>> as it had been over 4 years since its installation into my home.
>> 
>> The thing is, to the naked eye, the unit looked pretty much level; at least 
>> it did to all of the sighted people I consulted; not professionals, just 
>> friends.
>> 
>> Finally, I remembered that my beloved 14 Pro Max has a native level app.  I 
>> discovered that the laundry room floor dips off by about 1 degree as one 
>> approaches the center of the room.  You really can't tell by standing on the 
>> floor because it only reaches that 1 degree at the very center.
>> 
>> Anyway, after practicing with the level for a day or so with various 
>> surfaces around my house, one day I began leveling the washer, by myself; 
>> even though it is generally a 2-man job.
>> 
>> With the help of the iOS level app, I was able to get the washing machine 
>> level after about 15 minutes or so.  I was truly impressed at how sensitive 
>> the device was to even the slightest changes in a surface angle.
>> 
>> After 15 minutes or so, I took my final measurements and the machine was 
>> perfectly level from every angle I could think of to measure.
>> 
>> Now, even with the heaviest loads in the basket, the walk of shame has 

Re: iPhone SE third generation

[Richard Turner]

The earphones need the lightning plug, and yes they use the charging port.Belkin I think it is, make an adapter that allows you to charge the phone and use the earphones. Apple might make one as well. I'd call Apple.Of course, you could go with bluetooth earphones to avoid having to use an adapter.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 21, 2023, at 10:42 AM, h.begum99 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi, Last week I got the iPhone SE 22 but it does not have the normal headphone socket so what sort of headphones should I get and if it goes in the charger socket how would I use the charger and headphones at the same time? Thanks 



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Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the iOS 16 cycle

[Richard Turner]

Did you give Siri permission to use your location?
I've never had a problem getting the weather through Siri.




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> On Jun 21, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Dave Grossoehme  wrote:
> 
> I been asking for the weather from Siri and speak slow enough for her to 
> understand my question.  However, I get a different location or I've found 
> this on the web.  Or I'm working on that and then a few seconds later she 
> say's I didn't hear back.  This is on my home pod as well as on my phone.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On 6/13/2023 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I personally find that most of the time Siri doesn't do simple thingts 
>> correctly it is because I speak too quickly. There is a definite difference 
>> in how quickly Siri listens in iOS 16, whether this because of the new tone 
>> or because of something different I don't know, but sometimes I ask Siri to 
>> "Call John Smith" for lack of a better name and I get "What would you like 
>> to know about John Smith". It says this because I spoke too quickly and Siri 
>> didn't hear the "Call" part and instead only heard "John Smith".
>> But I do agree that in many ways Siri can be extremely dense and stupid 
>> considering Apple came out with Siri 12 years ago. Sometimes for some reason 
>> it won't even do a simple conversion and instead I get the answer"I found 
>> the following on the web about..."
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the 
>> iOS 16 cycle
>> 
>> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about 
>> the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond 
>> appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months 
>> later, I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never 
>> screws up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed 
>> that command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and 
>> many other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about what 
>> it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an app, even though 
>> it has opened the app many times in the past. I thought it was supposed to 
>> have some kind of on device machine learning, which would help it 
>> disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. This must not be true, because its 
>> overall performance has maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, the 
>> very same Siri with the very same commands yields reasonable results almost 
>> all of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed as far 
>> as I’m concerned. I can only hope they do better in iOS 17.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: Disappearing bard update.

[Richard Turner]

The current version is 2.21.
When you touch the App store icon, try a single finger triple tap and then 
flick right to updates.
Once on the update screen, touch near the bottom where it says previous updates 
or something.
Do a three finger swipe down to refresh that screen.
Now, there may be a list of available updates.
The app store doesn't reliably automatically show all the updates, so doing 
this screen refresh helps.

HTH,




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 8:17 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Disappearing bard update.

Hi list.  So today, I was updating apps in the app store and I noticed that the 
Bard update that has been in my list of updates since like September has 
completely disappeared.  I have not yet updated the app because I wasn't sure I 
would like the new format that the new app would implement.  I checked and my 
app does not appear to have updated and there's no mention of an update to the 
Bard app in the list of recently updated apps section of the app store.  So 
does anyone have any ideas about where the update went or why it suddenly 
disappeared? 

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Re: apple music question

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There should be an edit button in the top right. Double tap that. You can serct and deselect as well as rearrange those categories. It could be Artists was accidently unselected.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 17, 2023, at 7:15 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:Please disregard, I figured it out.  From: John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 09:53 AMTo: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: apple music question Good morning: I’ve been using apple music for years. Unfortunately, now when I go to library, I can’t find  the artist’ list, it goes from Play lists, Albums, songs, and skips artists.  Any suggestions? 



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RE: Enjoy your Instant Pot while it lasts - the company has filed for bankruptsy

[Richard Turner]

Here is a quote from the article that Feliciano sent:

"The company’s sales of “electronic multicooker devices,” which primarily 
includes Instant Pots, reached $758 million in 2020, the start of the pandemic.
Since last year sales for those products Link ‑ plunged 50% to $344 million, 
according to the Verge."

 

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Enjoy your Instant Pot while it lasts - the company has filed for 
bankruptsy

 

I agree. They filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. I quote 

 

The bankruptcy process will not impact the ability to purchase products as 
Instant Brand will operate as usual with the help of $132.5 million in new 
financing.


  

 



 

 Instant Pot & Pyrex parent company files for bankruptcy after year of cold 
sales

 

 usatoday.com

 

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On Jun 14, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

It’s important to recognize the difference between the two different kinds of 
bankruptcy filings. Instant filed under Chapter 11, which means they are trying 
to re-organize, not just go out of business. Apparently they do have a 
financing group ready to infuse more money into their business, but it Hass to 
be approved by whoever it is that is in charge of bankruptcies. So it may still 
be around after re-organization, or it could go away via the chapter 7 
bankruptcy, in which case, it is in fact gone.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 13, 2023, at 11:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I know many on the list bought into the Instant Pot craze about 4 or 5 years 
ago, I kept considering it and was waitiand waiting for the new Smart model 
(not the Bluetooth one) to come out and to be available for a reasonable price 
here in Canada. At one point it was somewhat reasonable, but I thought it would 
go on sale again and then it didn't and then it seemed to disappear. Now I just 
came across an article on CBC News about Instant Brands which apparently came 
into existance when Instant Pot and Corelle Brands merged, another rwell-known 
brand which  is part of that company's port folio is Pyrex cookware. In the 
article it says that Instant Brands has gone into Chapter 11 bankruptsy 
protection and that the assets of the company may be liquidated. Of course it 
is quite possible that maybe some other outfit picks up some or all of the 
pieces although I believe the era of the Instant Pot and similar all-in-one 
cooking appliances has passed and was nothing more than a fad. In the end I am 
glad I didn't get one of these gadgets as I actually do like cooking according 
to more traditional methods making things from scratch and with local 
ingredients including those we grow in our own garden in the summer and fall. . 
For anybody who is interested, here is a link to the article:

 

Instant Brands, maker of Instant Pot and Pyrex cookware, files for bankruptcy | 
CBC News  

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Enjoy your Instant Pot while it lasts - the company has filed for bankruptsy

[Richard Turner]

I am not a user of the Insta pot or any other pressure cooker.

However, I did a quick duckduckgo.com search for Smart Pressure Cooker and 
found one by Chef IQ at Amazon.  Regular price $200, with the 20% off coupon on 
the site it is $160.

 

I know nothing else or if the app is accessible, but just offer this as a 
confirmation that other smart pressure cookers exist.

https://www.amazon.com/CHEF-Worlds-Smartest-Pressure-Cooker/dp/B0863JB424

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 9:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Enjoy your Instant Pot while it lasts - the company has filed for 
bankruptsy

 

I’ve had my Bluetooth IP for eight or so years now. I always expected it to 
last longer than the supported app and for a while, that seemed to be the case 
until I guess enough people complained about the situation where they put out 
an app update. I suppose now we’ll see how long the Bluetooth app continues to 
function. Although, Fresco which also supports “smart” appliances including 
Instant Pot is still going strong, so maybe that’ll be an option for WiFi model 
owners… Who knows, maybe the API will end up being open source too…

I don’t’ know about “traditional” and all. I mean, use the tools available to 
you. It’s basically a pressure cooker and what’s untraditional about that? I 
still use my IP all the time. I expect I’ll just have to mark up the buttons 
when the app finally gives up the ghost, but it’s not like it’s going to or 
should keel  over any time soon. Bummer they’re going belly up though. I 
haven’t really paid attention since I have no need for one, but I’m guessing 
there are other smart options similar to what the IP does out there by now. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 11:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Enjoy your Instant Pot while it lasts - the company has filed for 
bankruptsy

 

I know many on the list bought into the Instant Pot craze about 4 or 5 years 
ago, I kept considering it and was waitiand waiting for the new Smart model 
(not the Bluetooth one) to come out and to be available for a reasonable price 
here in Canada. At one point it was somewhat reasonable, but I thought it would 
go on sale again and then it didn't and then it seemed to disappear. Now I just 
came across an article on CBC News about Instant Brands which apparently came 
into existance when Instant Pot and Corelle Brands merged, another rwell-known 
brand which  is part of that company's port folio is Pyrex cookware. In the 
article it says that Instant Brands has gone into Chapter 11 bankruptsy 
protection and that the assets of the company may be liquidated. Of course it 
is quite possible that maybe some other outfit picks up some or all of the 
pieces although I believe the era of the Instant Pot and similar all-in-one 
cooking appliances has passed and was nothing more than a fad. In the end I am 
glad I didn't get one of these gadgets as I actually do like cooking according 
to more traditional methods making things from scratch and with local 
ingredients including those we grow in our own garden in the summer and fall. . 
For anybody who is interested, here is a link to the article:

 

Instant Brands, maker of Instant Pot and Pyrex cookware, files for bankruptcy | 
CBC News  

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the iOS 16 cycle

[Richard Turner]

Have you run into this problem with VoiceOver off? 
I report any bug I find to Apple Accessibility because I know they actually 
read the messages.




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> On Jun 12, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi richard,
> To be honest, I have not reported to Apple Accessibility. I don’t see it as 
> an accessibility problem. It’s a Siri problem having nothing at all to do 
> with voiceover. So I’m not sure what good it does to report this to Apple 
> accessibility. I have reported more general things in the past, and gotten a 
> response that it’s not appropriate to report this here. I can’t remember what 
> it was, but that’s why I never report to them unless it’s specifically can be 
> tied to something having to do with voiceover.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> 
>> I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri only in a 
>> limited context.  While I can use the text keyboard, I am still quite slow 
>> at it and so I choose to use Siri for Text messages. It works quite well if 
>> you speak slowly--using some punctuation  and have limited background noise.
>> 
>> As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, pharmacies, 
>> family members, friends in contact from which I use the standard navigation 
>> techniques to access and dial them. If I have to call someone or some 
>> business that is not in my contacts and I know the number, then I use Siri.
>> 
>> As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into folder--using 
>> the edit method of drag and drop and placing these folders on page one of 
>> the home scre3en.  Again, I use standard navigation techniques to navigate 
>> quickly to the folders and double tap on the program name to access and 
>> initiate their functions.
>> 
>> ...So am I unusual in operating this way?
>> 
>>>> On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility.
>>> And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can 
>>> monitor what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report 
>>> during that session.
>>> Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence to 
>>> what exactly is going on.
>>> accessibil...@apple.com or 877-204-3930
>>> 
>>> I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with What 
>>> do you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and pretty 
>>> seldom.
>>> I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi...
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of 
>>> the iOS 16 cycle
>>> 
>>> Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t 
>>> because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m not 
>>> buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the cause. I 
>>> interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the problem with 
>>> the tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I should have the 
>>> problem consistently. But there are certain things that it never ever gets 
>>> wrong. And the App Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses 
>>> opening the App Store.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Paraphrasing...
>>>> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife.
>>>> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX
>>>> Me: I want to call my wife.
>>>> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call?
>>>> Me: Yes, Call my wife.
>>>> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong.
>>>> I can give a myriad of othe

RE: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the iOS 16 cycle

[Richard Turner]

I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility.
And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can monitor 
what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report during that 
session.
Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence to what 
exactly is going on.
accessibil...@apple.com or 877-204-3930

I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with What do 
you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and pretty seldom.
I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi...

HTH,

 



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the 
iOS 16 cycle

Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t 
because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m not 
buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the cause. I 
interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the problem with the 
tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I should have the problem 
consistently. But there are certain things that it never ever gets wrong. And 
the App Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses opening the 
App Store. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Paraphrasing... 
> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife.
> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX
> Me: I want to call my wife.
> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call?
> Me: Yes, Call my wife.
> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong.
> I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot garbage 
> all these years later. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the 
> iOS 16 cycle
> 
> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about 
> the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond 
> appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months later, 
> I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never screws 
> up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed that 
> command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and many 
> other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about what it 
> found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an app, even though it 
> has opened the app many times in the past. I thought it was supposed to have 
> some kind of on device machine learning, which would help it disambiguate 
> things it wasn’t sure of. This must not be true, because its overall 
> performance has maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, the very same 
> Siri with the very same commands yields reasonable results almost all of the 
> time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed as far as I’m 
> concerned. I can only hope they do better in iOS 17. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

[Richard Turner]

An addendum to my previous note in this thread.

I should also have said, the purpose of these lists is to share information, 
and to assist others in figuring out how to do x, y, or z, and not  just to 
express opinions, though that is also part of it.

 

However, taking someone to task for their opinion is not, which is why sticking 
to "I" statements is helpful.

 

HTH,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2023 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

 

I completely agree with Richard 

Sent from my iPhone SE 3





On Jun 12, 2023, at 12:02 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I can use all those apps with my phone and get a lot more hours out of it. So, 
for me, And I always make I statements, spending $3500 on another device makes 
no sense. I again, as I have said, am speaking for myself. What others choose 
to do is there business. I believe the idea of these lists is to express an 
opinion. 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 11, 2023, at 7:58 PM, Chris Chaffin mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com> > wrote:


What if we could use apps like Envision A I, Seeing A I, Be My Eyes, or Aira 
with this device?  And this is just the start.  We do not know what apps might 
be developed in the future.  No one can say exactly what will happen, but the 
potential is definitely there.

And I agree, the price is expensive.  But so is other tech like the Envision 
Glasses for $2,500 to $3,500, and the Orcam for over $4,000.  I think both of 
these devices are good ones and offers a lot of help to many people.  But this 
new Vision Pro from Apple has the potential of being so much more than either 
of these devices for around the same price.

Chris





On Jun 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, lenron brown mailto:lenro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

You call it a toy, but what if Aira or some other app could take

advantage of those cameras? I can see some really good use cases for

this, some maybe with AI or a human able to provide really good

descriptions / directions because of being able to use those cameras.

 

On 6/11/23, Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote:

The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell.

 

On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> >

wrote:

 

I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that

kind of money on a toy.

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they

are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll

have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this

would even have for a blind person.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of

Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be

available until 2024.

If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links

to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features.

Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page.

 

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/

HTH,

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it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the

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Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

[Richard Turner]

I can use all those apps with my phone and get a lot more hours out of it. So, 
for me, And I always make I statements, spending $3500 on another device makes 
no sense. I again, as I have said, am speaking for myself. What others choose 
to do is there business. I believe the idea of these lists is to express an 
opinion. 




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> On Jun 11, 2023, at 7:58 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> What if we could use apps like Envision A I, Seeing A I, Be My Eyes, or Aira 
> with this device?  And this is just the start.  We do not know what apps 
> might be developed in the future.  No one can say exactly what will happen, 
> but the potential is definitely there.
> 
> And I agree, the price is expensive.  But so is other tech like the Envision 
> Glasses for $2,500 to $3,500, and the Orcam for over $4,000.  I think both of 
> these devices are good ones and offers a lot of help to many people.  But 
> this new Vision Pro from Apple has the potential of being so much more than 
> either of these devices for around the same price.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> You call it a toy, but what if Aira or some other app could take
>> advantage of those cameras? I can see some really good use cases for
>> this, some maybe with AI or a human able to provide really good
>> descriptions / directions because of being able to use those cameras.
>> 
>>>> On 6/11/23, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> The price for that is crazy, I wonder how many of those Apple will sell.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that
>>>> kind of money on a toy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they
>>>>> are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll
>>>>> have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this
>>>>> would even have for a blind person.
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors
>>>>> As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be
>>>>> available until 2024.
>>>>> If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links
>>>>> to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features.
>>>>> Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
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Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

[Richard Turner]

I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that kind of money on a toy. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this would even have for a blind
 person.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors


 
 
As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be available until 2024. 

If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features.  
Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page.
 
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/
 
HTH,
 
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Re: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Richard Turner]

How close to your head is the phone when you are trying to do this? 
If it is within about a foot or maybe 18 inches, the proximity sensor will kick 
in and you won't be able to use the screen.



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> On Jun 10, 2023, at 7:26 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
> If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
> happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated. 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Richard Turner]

I posted a link in a new thread for those interested in being tempted to spend 
a ton of money for the Vision Pro headset.

Or anyone wanting to know.

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

If the Vision Pro headset in fact includes Voiceover and is fully accessible, I 
would say it's certainly appropriate for this list. However, since it won't be 
available for probably close to a year and I don't recall Apple saying anything 
about accessibility during the keynote it is definitely premature. From how 
they describe it I have my doubts regarding full accessibility because this 
sounds like it will be a very visually focused experience where you have to 
look at things to make the headset react and I am not sure how Apple will make 
that fully accessible. Of course they may have already figured it out so who 
knows, but no point in speculating and as others pointed out, at $3,500 US 
which means probably at least $4,500 or $4,800 Canadian this is probably not 
something the majority of blind people will buy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

What has this subject have to do with anything.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

No Kidding, right?

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:02 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.

 

 

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com 
<mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit long 
and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
for cancer.  

And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground breaking 
can already be done on Android.  

Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, is 
because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my perspective.  I 
have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a price tag at over 
$3000, it might as well not exist.

Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

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Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

[Richard Turner]

 

As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be available 
until 2024.  

If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links to the 
developer session spelling out the accessibility features.  

Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page.

 

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/

 

HTH,

 

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Re: copying docs scanned in VDR to windows laptop

[Richard Turner]

When you export the document, try plain text format or Word. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 9, 2023, at 6:05 AM, Dan  wrote:
  


  
  
Hi all,


I have a doc that I scanned using VDR. 
Now I want to copy it to my laptop.  I did so using Icloud but
when I open it on my laptop it says it is a malformed PDF.


How can I get the OCRed text of the doc
over there?


I did read through the VDR help and can find nothing about doing
  this.



thanks.


-- 
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Richard Turner]

For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean my 
house and do the cooking.



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> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over support, and 
> all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on other apple 
> products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using vision pro.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
> 
> Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a bit 
> long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
> tiresome.
> 
> I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with a cure 
> for cancer.  
> 
> And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
> breaking can already be done on Android.  
> 
> Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this year, 
> is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
> 
> Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
> 
> I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
> far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
> tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
> I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about 
> iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he 
> can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset 
> which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 
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RE: My Seri voice has changed

[Richard Turner]

I am not aware of there being any fewer Siri Voices.
Without knowing the name or number of the Siri voice you used, there is no way 
to really fix it other than trying all the voices.
Note that if you flick up on a voice, you get an option to sample it before 
downloading.

HTH,



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My Seri voice has changed

Hello everyone,


A couple of days ago, I noticed that my Seri voice had changed. I used to have 
this pretty cool British voice, that I very much liked.


I recently updated my iPhone to the latest update. This was about a week 
ago. Although, it may have been a bit less time than that.


Also, I just recently set up my new iPad, and made sure it was up to 
date as well. When I set up my iPad, I did this as a restore from iCloud 
backup.


It was not long after I set up my iPad, and used my phone that I noticed 
what had happened. I thought at first it was something that would 
correct itself after a day, or so.


However, this has not been the case. And, this morning when I looked 
through my phone to try and set the seri voice back to how I had it, I 
couldn't even seem to find this voice as an option. Of course, I don't 
quite know which one it was. But I would know it if I heard it.


So with this latest update, did we lose some voices?

Or is it possibly something else?


Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Can you download on the phone?

[Richard Turner]

Christopher makes a good point, you are almost definitely seeing iCloud Drive.  
The Reader folder is for Voice Dream Reader more than likely.

 

I don't know with the recent changes if the Scanner is still part of Voice 
Dream Reader, but if it is, you could open a scanned PDF in Voice Dream Reader 
and on the documents tab, select scan document…

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can you download on the phone?

 

Five items just means the number of items in the list above. I wonder if you’re 
seeing the iCloud drive, which will include some files stored by the different 
apps you have installed on your phone, those that support iCloud backup.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Can you download on the phone?

 

Well, in brows I see, on my iPhone, then my credit union name, which I have 
know idea how that got there.  Then is, my at, then NFB newsline, Phone drive 
pro, then Reader.  After that it says, five items. 

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From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2023 12:31 PM

Subject: Re: Can you download on the phone?

 

First, if they are image based PDF files they will be useless unless you run 
them through an OCR app.  

There should be a downloads folder within the Files app. 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 

 

 

On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Richard:

I do have the files app, but when I double tap on it, it just opens.  
Apparently it is a PDF and all I see are images.  I have never used the files 
app, so is there something I should do in that app to start things?

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From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2023 11:39 AM

Subject: RE: Can you download on the phone?

 

The short answer is yes.

If you double tap on a download link, it will default to downloading to the 
Files App.  Files is an app that should be on all iPhones unless it was removed 
by the user.

For example, I've downloaded mp3 files from audiovault.net and been able to 
play them from the Files app.

It may depending on the file format you are downloading, but give it a try.

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

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Subject: Can you download on the phone?

I guess that is my question.  I am on a page that has a few download links and 
I am not able to grab this same page with my computer because it is a page in 
the middle of a purchase.  How can I use these links on my iPhone?  Thanks much 
for any help.

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RE: Can you download on the phone?

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Well, try the Recent tab at the bottom left.

 

IN Browse, you are probably pointed to a folder like OneDrive or something.

 

HTH,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can you download on the phone?

 

Well, in brows I see, on my iPhone, then my credit union name, which I have 
know idea how that got there.  Then is, my at, then NFB newsline, Phone drive 
pro, then Reader.  After that it says, five items. 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2023 12:31 PM

Subject: Re: Can you download on the phone?

 

First, if they are image based PDF files they will be useless unless you run 
them through an OCR app.  

There should be a downloads folder within the Files app. 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Jun 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Richard:

I do have the files app, but when I double tap on it, it just opens.  
Apparently it is a PDF and all I see are images.  I have never used the files 
app, so is there something I should do in that app to start things?

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2023 11:39 AM

Subject: RE: Can you download on the phone?

 

The short answer is yes.

If you double tap on a download link, it will default to downloading to the 
Files App.  Files is an app that should be on all iPhones unless it was removed 
by the user.

For example, I've downloaded mp3 files from audiovault.net and been able to 
play them from the Files app.

It may depending on the file format you are downloading, but give it a try.

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

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Subject: Can you download on the phone?

I guess that is my question.  I am on a page that has a few download links and 
I am not able to grab this same page with my computer because it is a page in 
the middle of a purchase.  How can I use these links on my iPhone?  Thanks much 
for any help.

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Re: Can you download on the phone?

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First, if they are image based PDF files they will be useless unless you run them through an OCR app. There should be a downloads folder within the Files app. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:






Richard:
I do have the files app, but when I double tap on 
it, it just opens.  Apparently it is a PDF and all I see are images.  
I have never used the files app, so is there something I should do in that app 
to start things?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2023 11:39 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Can you download on the 
  phone?
  
  
  The short answer 
  is yes.
   
  If you double 
  tap on a download link, it will default to downloading to the Files App.  
  Files is an app that should be on all iPhones unless it was removed by the 
  user.
   
  For example, 
  I've downloaded mp3 files from audiovault.net and been able to play them from 
  the Files app.
   
  It may depending 
  on the file format you are downloading, but give it a 
  try.
   
   
  
   
   
  Richard, USA.
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  in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent 
  Life in the Universe
   
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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
   On Behalf Of Kay 
  MalmquistSent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 9:37 AMTo: 
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  phone?
   
  
  I guess that is my 
  question.  I am on a page that has a few download links and I am not able 
  to grab this same page with my computer because it is a page in the middle of 
  a purchase.  How can I use these links on my iPhone?  Thanks much 
  for any help.
  
   
  
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RE: Can you download on the phone?

[Richard Turner]

The short answer is yes.

 

If you double tap on a download link, it will default to downloading to the 
Files App.  Files is an app that should be on all iPhones unless it was removed 
by the user.

 

For example, I've downloaded mp3 files from audiovault.net and been able to 
play them from the Files app.

 

It may depending on the file format you are downloading, but give it a try.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can you download on the phone?

 

I guess that is my question.  I am on a page that has a few download links and 
I am not able to grab this same page with my computer because it is a page in 
the middle of a purchase.  How can I use these links on my iPhone?  Thanks much 
for any help.

 

Kay Malmquist
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

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RE: VoiceDream Support

[Richard Turner]

Well, what iOS version is your iPhone 7 running?





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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
Carlson
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceDream Support

Richard,
I actually have an iPhone 7, so I don't have iOS 16; so I know at least on my 
end that's not the source of the problem. I've also tested it on two separate 
Braille displays.
I've had no issues downloading from Bookshare; try logging out and re-adding it 
as a content source.

On 6/5/23, Kimberly  wrote:
> I've seen in this thread that several people are having no issues 
> downloading from bookshare. My problem is that once i search for a 
> title and my results are displayed, there are no download buttons 
> following any of the results. I have no idea why this could be since i 
> have no issues with bookshare on my laptop. '
>
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous 
> books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I have not had any problems downloading bookshare books with VDR.  I 
>> use voice dream reader for a lot more then just bookshare books, 
>> although it works great for that.
>>
>>> On 6/5/23, Kimberly Gardner  wrote:
>>> The short answer is yes. Not long after VDR was sold and the 
>>> subscription model was introduced I found I could no longer download 
>>> books from bookshare. Since bookshare is  only source I use with VDR 
>>> and I had never had trouble before with bookshare I wrote to support.
>>> Like you I received no response, not even a standard your request 
>>> has been received. Last week I wrote again and pointed out that it 
>>> was the second time I was contacting them about this problem. I did 
>>> get a response along with a request for a screen shot which I 
>>> provided. That was a couple of days ago so I am waiting to see what happens 
>>> next.
>>>
>>> Kim
>>>
 On 6/4/23, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
 Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for 
 VoiceDream Reader now that it has been required? When I email to 
 report bugs now I get no reply at all, not even that they are 
 working on fixing the problem.

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RE: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

[Richard Turner]

That is an inherent issue with some Bluetooth headphones.

 

 

 

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Subject: bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

 

I notice that when I’m using Bluetooth headphones and am typing on my Iphone 
that there are latency issues between my finger pressing whatever I want to 
type and me hearing the letter through my headphones. Anybody know how to fix? 

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Re: VoiceDream Support

[Richard Turner]

Have you cleared out your app switcher and rebooted your phone? 
Also, if you double tap on the book you want in the search results, there 
should now also be a download button at the top of that screen.


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> On Jun 5, 2023, at 6:48 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> I've seen in this thread that several people are having no issues 
> downloading from bookshare. My problem is that once i search for a title and 
> my results are displayed, there are no download buttons following any of the 
> results. I have no idea why this could be since i have no issues with 
> bookshare on my laptop. '
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
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>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not had any problems downloading bookshare books with VDR.  I
>> use voice dream reader for a lot more then just bookshare books,
>> although it works great for that.
>> 
 On 6/5/23, Kimberly Gardner  wrote:
>>> The short answer is yes. Not long after VDR was sold and the
>>> subscription model was introduced I found I could no longer download
>>> books from bookshare. Since bookshare is  only source I use with VDR
>>> and I had never had trouble before with bookshare I wrote to support.
>>> Like you I received no response, not even a standard your request has
>>> been received. Last week I wrote again and pointed out that it was the
>>> second time I was contacting them about this problem. I did get a
>>> response along with a request for a screen shot which I provided. That
>>> was a couple of days ago so I am waiting to see what happens next.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
 On 6/4/23, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
 Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for VoiceDream
 Reader now that it has been required? When I email to report bugs now I
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Re: EyeNote Doing Nothing

[Richard Turner]

I too just tried EyeNote and it worked perfectly. 
Make sure you have enough light in the room and hold the camerA 4 to 6 inches 
from the currency. US currency only.




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> On Jun 5, 2023, at 7:58 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> I just used the app and all worked as expected. 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey All,
>> 
>> Has something happened to the EyeNote app? I tried identifying some 
>> currency; when I opened the app, nothing, nothing at all, happened.
>> 
>> It has been some time since I tried using EyeNote, but as I recall as soon 
>> as a currency note was placed in front of the iPhone the app started 
>> processing the image.
>> 
>> Beyond this “no action” issue, when I tapped on the screen I merely got a 
>> dull thumping sound.
>> 
>> Can/Will anybody shed some light on this, please!
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin
>> - “You can't help getting older,”
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>> - George Burns
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Re: VoiceDream Support

[Richard Turner]

I know iOS 16.5 has caused lots of panning issues, and not just with VDR. 
I will also write them about the select text button.



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> On Jun 5, 2023, at 5:27 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> One minor one is that the select text button is unlabeled. The major one is 
> that when reading with a Braille display, if you attempt to pan backwards, 
> after a few times Reader will actually jump several paragraphs forward. This 
> makes it basically impossible to efficiently read with a Braille display. I 
> have emailed about this a few times over the last 3-4 months with no 
> response. There is also another bug that is sound-related, but I devised my 
> own solution by turning VO's sounds off only within Reader.
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not had any problems downloading bookshare books with VDR.  I
>> use voice dream reader for a lot more then just bookshare books,
>> although it works great for that.
>> 
 On 6/5/23, Kimberly Gardner  wrote:
>>> The short answer is yes. Not long after VDR was sold and the
>>> subscription model was introduced I found I could no longer download
>>> books from bookshare. Since bookshare is  only source I use with VDR
>>> and I had never had trouble before with bookshare I wrote to support.
>>> Like you I received no response, not even a standard your request has
>>> been received. Last week I wrote again and pointed out that it was the
>>> second time I was contacting them about this problem. I did get a
>>> response along with a request for a screen shot which I provided. That
>>> was a couple of days ago so I am waiting to see what happens next.
>>> 
>>> Kim
>>> 
 On 6/4/23, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
 Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for VoiceDream
 Reader now that it has been required? When I email to report bugs now I
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Re: VoiceDream Support

[Richard Turner]

I've had no issues with any of my content sources, bookshare, OneDrive, 
Dropbox, etc.
I hope they have a suggestion. 



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> On Jun 5, 2023, at 1:45 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
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> The short answer is yes. Not long after VDR was sold and the
> subscription model was introduced I found I could no longer download
> books from bookshare. Since bookshare is  only source I use with VDR
> and I had never had trouble before with bookshare I wrote to support.
> Like you I received no response, not even a standard your request has
> been received. Last week I wrote again and pointed out that it was the
> second time I was contacting them about this problem. I did get a
> response along with a request for a screen shot which I provided. That
> was a couple of days ago so I am waiting to see what happens next.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On 6/4/23, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>> Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for VoiceDream
>> Reader now that it has been required? When I email to report bugs now I get
>> no reply at all, not even that they are working on fixing the problem.
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Re: VoiceDream Support

[Richard Turner]

What kind of bugs are you finding?



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> On Jun 4, 2023, at 8:16 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> Does anybody have trouble getting responses from support for VoiceDream 
> Reader now that it has been required? When I email to report bugs now I get 
> no reply at all, not even that they are working on fixing the problem.
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Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Richard Turner]

Nothing will change for people who bought the app before Winston sold Voice Dream LLC.They are committed to keeping the app updated and expanded where necessary. The name change was to widen the possible audiance since if someone searches for text to speech, or TTS they will also find Voice Dream Reader.It could happen that one day in the future even those of us who purchased the app may be asked to subscribe, who knows, but there are no plans to do that anytime soon. For my part, I would gladly pay a subscription fee; just like I do with Microsoft 365, Apple Music, Amazon Prime, etc.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 3, 2023, at 2:25 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Richard, 
With all these recent changes with the company, does this affect the use of the VDR use for those who bought Voice Dream Reader?

 
Thank you for any input on this.  
 
Janet 
Janet 
 


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Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as well
 and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app store listing, you fine it
 says Voice Dream LLC.

HTH,


 


 


 


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On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi list,
 
As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream instead
 of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and wanted to make others aware of it.
 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Richard Turner]

Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.HTH,Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi list, As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and wanted to make others aware of it. Alan Lemly



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RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

[Richard Turner]

Yes, you have to turn off the screen curtain before taking a screen shot, 
otherwise, you get a nice black picture with no helpful information.




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-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Here is how to take a screen shot on any iPhone with a home button.

I don't know if it is required, but I recommend that you make sure the screen 
curtain is off before taking a screen shot.  Turn the screen curtain on or off 
with a 3 finger triple-tap.

Press the power button and home button at the same time.  You will hear the 
camera click.  Wait just a few seconds, and the screen shot will be in the 
photo library.

Rob

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Subject: How to take a screenshot on an SE second generation iPhone?

Hi all,

I need to take a screenshot to send to an app vendor for diagnostic purposes. 
But I can’t remember how to do it. Could someone remind me? I’m running the 
latest iOS on an SE second generation iPhone.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: What's the best way to delete a contact in iPhone?

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In iMessages, Also known as Messages, touch the message but do not double tap, flick up twice and you should be on delete. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 1, 2023, at 3:12 PM, Lyne  wrote:The easiest way is to triple tap on the contact and you will have the delete button or double tap and hold on contact it's the same LyneLe 1 juin 2023 à 17:18, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com a écrit :I sure wish apple would change that. It would be nice to just be able to swipe up to delete like you can with email and messages. Chris Judge From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph hudsonSent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 2:12 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: What's the best way to delete a contact in iPhone? You have to click the edit button first and then you can delete the contact. I know it's weird but that's how it works.On Jun 1, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Rena  wrote: Hello, I open contacts, choose the one I want to delete, but I don’t find any button to delete this contact. What should I do?It’s iPhone SE20 and iOS 16. Thanks, Rena  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/022701d994ab%24b90b1510%242b213f30%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F423C426-DBE5-4703-A826-04EE8C678532%40twc.com.



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RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[Richard Turner]

The main thing missing in my view is the ability to sort email into folders 
automatically.  On my Windows computer, with Outlook, I can set filters to move 
messages into folders based on keywords, subject lines, etc.  It would be great 
if Apple would offer this in their native mail app.

And, before anyone suggests it, I've tried the Outlook app and much prefer the 
native mail app.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

 

hi, Mark, I think you are doing a fantastic job with the iPhone list. I really 
enjoyed reading everyone's posts. It was wonderful hearing from you. Thank you 
so much. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On May 31, 2023, at 10:58 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> 
> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
wanted to check in with you and see how everyone is doing with their Apple
devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

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RE: Soundscape back soon

[Richard Turner]

Great!  Can you share the name of the developers, or is that part of the NDA?

Do you know what kind of price they plan to set?

Soundscape was a fine app and I know Microsoft isn't making all that is needed 
open source, so I would be surprised if an independent developer will be able 
to make it free.

Thanks,


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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Soundscape back soon

Hi Richard,
I am the source! I already downloaded the bettaapp from the developers. Sounds 
good?

Lyne

> Le 29 mai 2023 à 12:07, Richard Turner  a écrit :
> 
> I some how missed the first message in this thread from Lyne stating 
> SoundScape could be back in July.  My question is, and this is always my 
> question with statements like this, what is the source for saying it will be 
> back?
> 
> Without a reliable source, this is just a useless rumor.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 8:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Soundscape back soon
> 
> Best of luck, but I'll believe it when I see it:
> 
> - Not all of the project has been opensourced, so the maintainer will either 
> have to release an incomplete offering or handle all the fun politics around 
> integrating a new data provider to patch up the gaps.
> - As supplied, the infrastructure can't be spun up without modification.
> - If the maintainer sticks with Azure or some other cloud provider I reckon 
> you're easily looking at mid 4 figures a year, just on hosting the backend.
> 
> I think part of the problem here is that (in the UK at least) there really 
> aren't that many blindness organizations big enough to take on the commitment 
> of maintaining something like this, let alone that have the knowledge to do 
> it properly. Obviously one solution to this is to just buy the skills in, but 
> just to spin up a small iOS dev team you'd be looking at £300-350K in salary 
> a year, not including all the additional costs of employing them. Such a 
> shame.
> 
>> On 5/29/23, Lyne  wrote:
>> Hello group,
>> 
>> If things go well, Soundscape should be back in AppStore around July.
>> 
>> 
>> Lyne
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RE: apple music?

[Richard Turner]

Open Settings on your iPhone.
At the top, or very near the top, double tap on your name, which is your Apple 
account.
Flick right to subscriptions.
IN there you can cancel any and all subscriptionts.
Note, usually when you cancel a trial, you can still access it for the duration 
of the trial period that is left.

HTH,



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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple music?

I asked my new SE 2022 yesterday to open Radio northwest for me and instead 
Ciri opened apple music and played some goofy song I did not want. then I was 
informed that she had signed me up for the 7 day free trial with apple music. I 
do not want apple music, so how do I get away from that supposed free trial of 
it?

thanks for any assistance in advance,

Dave

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RE: Soundscape back soon

[Richard Turner]

I some how missed the first message in this thread from Lyne stating SoundScape 
could be back in July.  My question is, and this is always my question with 
statements like this, what is the source for saying it will be back?

Without a reliable source, this is just a useless rumor.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ben 
Mustill-Rose
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Soundscape back soon

Best of luck, but I'll believe it when I see it:

- Not all of the project has been opensourced, so the maintainer will either 
have to release an incomplete offering or handle all the fun politics around 
integrating a new data provider to patch up the gaps.
- As supplied, the infrastructure can't be spun up without modification.
- If the maintainer sticks with Azure or some other cloud provider I reckon 
you're easily looking at mid 4 figures a year, just on hosting the backend.

I think part of the problem here is that (in the UK at least) there really 
aren't that many blindness organizations big enough to take on the commitment 
of maintaining something like this, let alone that have the knowledge to do it 
properly. Obviously one solution to this is to just buy the skills in, but just 
to spin up a small iOS dev team you'd be looking at £300-350K in salary a year, 
not including all the additional costs of employing them. Such a shame.

On 5/29/23, Lyne  wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> If things go well, Soundscape should be back in AppStore around July.
>
>
> Lyne
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Richard Turner]

You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi,I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.Best,AnnaOn May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Yep, that’s it.
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Re: FINDING ATTACHMENTS IN EMAILS

[Richard Turner]

I use the native mail app with my Outlook account. What works for me is to open 
the email, touch the bottom left corner and swipe right as the attachment is 
usually at the very bottom of the email. 
HTH,




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> On May 21, 2023, at 7:35 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
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> Good morning:
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> I'm using the iPhone SE and Microsoft outlook. Is there an easy way to find 
> an attachment I receives in an email from outlook?
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> Thanks. 
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Re: weather app says "wifi off"

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I think that is an error from VoiceOver. My Wi-Fi is on; but the weather app says the same thing. However, my sighted wife sees nothing on the screen about Wi-Fi. That image is a photo of the weather conditions. I'd just ignore it. Or contact Apple Accessibility and report it.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 8, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Cher Bosch  wrote:Does anyone understand what this means- and how to turn it back on? It seemed to come with an IOS update. Thanks. Cher



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RE: SuperSense update

[Richard Turner]

Well, I could do that.

Or, I could leave it there, and see if they ever do any truly substantial 
updates.

And. Let them know, as they requested, how I feel about their app; which I have 
done.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SuperSense update

 

Then it would seem the solution is to uninstall the app, unsubscribe from their 
announcements and move on.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: SuperSense update

 

That’s it?  wow unreal.

 

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Subject: FW: SuperSense update

 

I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such 
great things with these piddly updates.

Here is what it says in today's update.

 

"Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements 
to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug 
fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As 
always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech <mailto:superse...@mediate.tech> . Best, 
Supersense Team

 

 

Richard, USA.

 

 

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FW: SuperSense update

[Richard Turner]

I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such 
great things with these piddly updates.

Here is what it says in today's update.

 

"Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements 
to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug 
fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As 
always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech  . Best, 
Supersense Team

 

 

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RE: Number of characters required for IPhone password

[Richard Turner]

If you are talking about the digits you enter when you unlock the phone, that 
is the "passcode" not the "Password."

I believe they have forced most people to use 6 digits for the Passcode because 
it is far more secure.

But, as with all things Apple, if you want an authoritative answer, call Apple 
Accessibility 877-204-3930 or write accessibil...@apple.com 
 

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Number of characters required for IPhone password

 

Hi everyone,

I have an IPhone 12 mini and have a four digit password that I use.  When 
recently looking at changing it, I was faced with putting in six characters.  
Does this mean that I would have to have a six character password if I were to 
change it?

Dan

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Re: Is there a VoiceOver Gesture or way to get more?

[Richard Turner]

When I have encountered those lists, I found I have to touch ay item in the 
list on the left side of the screen to make sure VO is focused in the list; 
then do the three finger swipe up. If you touch where it says vertical scroll 
bar, the three finger swipe does nothing. 




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> On Apr 29, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
> 
> Regarding my previous message, I should have also said that what I
> have tried to do is to flick up or down or left or right with three
> fingers, so as to try to move to a different page. It doesn't seem to
> work with trying to expand these lisits. I am beginning to think there
> might not be any other way though to get past those scrolling bars.
> Thank you for your help.
> 
>> On 4/29/23, Tom Cramer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am using a TV app that has an extensive catalog of TV shows or
>> specific channels. I brows through it, and I know there is more
>> listed, but it finishes or stops scrolling. From there, I get
>> something that says "Vertical scroll bar", and I get a percentage
>> number, which is generally at 90 or 100. I flick up or down with one
>> finger, and it just changes the number but doesn't do much else. If I
>> flick with one finger to the right, past the vertical scroll bar, it
>> moves on to something else. Like I said, I know there is more to this
>> extensive list than what I'm getting.
>> This same thing happens with other lists or things that are more
>> extensive than what I'm getting. I've seen it on other apps too when I
>> am just scrolling or browsing.
>> How can I expand or get more? Is there a voice over command for this?
>> Tom
>> 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Hi Anna,

I will see if I can find out.

Since I don't have a Mac, I didn't think to ask.

 

 

 

 

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Dresner
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:18 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
Applause Group

 

Hi Richard and all,

 

I sent a message to the support address a couple of days ago to see how Voice 
Dream Reader for the Mac was affected by the changes and what the subscription 
for the two apps would be, but I’ve heard nothing. Do you have any information 
about Voice Dream Reader for Mac?

 

Thanks,

Anna

 





On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Greetings all,

 

I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.

Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
subscription fee.  

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current 
price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.

In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  
That works out to $5.00 per month.

I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would 
gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app 
to continue to improve, which I believe it will.

 

Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:

When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 

An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is 
that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's 
worth it for them without spending any money. 

The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.

 

The support email will continue to be  <mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> 
supp...@voicedream.com

 

the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
contact email won’t change.

 

For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, 
they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and 
will not be subscriptions.

The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.

Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Well, you could write to supp...@voicedream.com and ask. Or, sinie since you already own the app, be glad you won't have to pay.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:The only specific improvement they noted on the AppleVis forum was new voices; there's no way that justifies such a drastic increase in price. I would want to know much more about improvements they hope to make that would justify this than I do now to be convinced; "it's not sustainable" is simply not an adequate answer. It's wise of them to grandfather old users in; I'd seriously consider re-purchasing a Victor Reader Stream or going back to my old Apex to read books rather than pay that much.On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Your crystal ball must be amazing! To assert that no improvements will come on the first day of a change is ludicris at best. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model for static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to something as basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced it was making use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be outrageous.I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of this.On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It used to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From what others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to be supported
 and get updates.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group


 
Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel







El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> escribió:





Greetings all,
 
I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee. 

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
 
Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
 
The support email will continue to be 
supp...@voicedream.com 
 
the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change.
 
For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
 
HTH,
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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Your crystal ball must be amazing! To assert that no improvements will come on the first day of a change is ludicris at best. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model for static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to something as basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced it was making use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be outrageous.I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of this.On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It used to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From what others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to be supported
 and get updates.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group


 
Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel







El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> escribió:





Greetings all,
 
I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee. 

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
 
Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
 
The support email will continue to be 
supp...@voicedream.com 
 
the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change.
 
For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
 
HTH,
Richard, USA.
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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

If you break the price down, it is about $5.00 a month, or $1.15 per week. I 
think most people could give something up that would cover the cost. 




Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad that I won't have to pay for voice dream reader.  However,
> even if I did have to pay for the app, $59 per year is still a good
> price.  It is one of my most used apps on my iPhone.  I just added a
> ton of audio books to voice dream reader using iTunes.  I love being
> able to use a USBC to lightning cable.  The copy sppeeds that my
> zipped audio books copy over to my iPhone 13 pro max is incredibly
> fast.  It is great.
> 
>> On 4/25/23, William James  wrote:
>> Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your
>> wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream
>>> Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app
>>> from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this
>>> one is a joke.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that
>>>> is now free.
>>>> 
>>>> I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free
>>>> alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but
>>>> there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has
>>>> also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better
>>>> over time.
>>>> 
>>>> JODY
>>>> 
>>>> To Boldly Go  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication
>>>>> that they might.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for
>>>>> some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is
>>>>> worth paying for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>> 
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>>>>> Universe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Leo Bado
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause
>>>>> wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still
>>>>> legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that
>>>>> already paid for the app in the past under the

Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this one is a joke.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is now free.I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem. At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that they might.  I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying for. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Yes.  Perfectly legal.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription model?  Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna DresnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AMTo: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Hello, I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out. Best,Anna  On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado <literophi...@myself.com> wrote: Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor? Best,Leo Bado  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c501d9779e%24ee04a440%24ca0decc0%24%40myself.com. -- The following information is importa

Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

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Z₣ar zI know, there is no free version. A 7 day free trial is it. Write directly to supp...@voicedream.com to get a direct answer.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:02 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner  escribió:Greetings all, I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee.  New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will. Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app. The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com  the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change. For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so. Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma. HTH,Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.

However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.

 

At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that 
they might.  

I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some 
people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying 
for.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants 
to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally 
viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for 
the app in the past under the one-time payment model.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Yes.  Perfectly legal.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model? 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Dresner
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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado mailto:literophi...@myself.com> > wrote:

 

Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

 

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Yes.  Perfectly legal.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
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I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model? 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Dresner
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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

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Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

 

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Penny, and anyone else who have stated that current owners will not have to pay for the subscription, could you say what your source is? I've seen no official information yet. I have reached out to the company that bought the app, but have not heard yet. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:If you already own the Voice Dream Reader app, you won’t have to pay for an annual subscription. Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 25, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for it? Also, how much will it be?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Hi Leo, et al.I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.  I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the Voice Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired. He has given me permission to share the below information.Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired Voice Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it to them.On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that the one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need an app to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer knows the code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  This way, you end up with a team maintaining the app. Here is what Winston said:" Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group.  The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to do it myself before the acquisition. On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will remain my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new company named Opus Noma. There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal issue, I have not been able to announce it. More from me about this soon..." An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  Be patient.And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases. HTH, Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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Hi Leo, et al.

I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.

 

 

I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the Voice 
Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired.

 

He has given me permission to share the below information.

Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.

Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired Voice 
Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it to them.

On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that the 
one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need an app 
to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer knows the 
code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  This way, you 
end up with a team maintaining the app.

 

Here is what Winston said:

" Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice 
Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group. 

 

The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and 
timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a 
subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to 
do it myself before the acquisition.

 

On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will remain 
my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new company 
named Opus Noma.

 

There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal 
issue, I have not been able to announce it.

 

More from me about this soon..."

 

An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  
Be patient.

And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases.

 

HTH,

 

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Re: Reading text/signage in the environment.

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Give Seeing AI Short text channel a try. You may be surprised.



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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd give the camera app a try. Just bring up the camera app and make sure 
> focus is in the view finder. As you point the camera around you, you'll hear 
> objects described and text read to you. I haven't tried it in the wild, but I 
> have tried it around the house.
> 
> There's also the short description channel n the Microsoft Seeing AI app. 
> This is good when you know you're pointing at some text, like a label or a 
> sign.
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 5:24 AM
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> Subject: Reading text/signage in the environment.
> 
> Hi,
> 
>Don't know if GPT 4 is relevant  here, if I remember aright, this became 
> possible a year or more ago, but I want to be able to scan my environment, 
> preferably, with video, but it could be still shots, not to identify objects, 
> rather, to read all text around me. This might be anything from street signs 
> to shop signs, to products on shelves or general info in buildings.
> 
>What app would i use to do this? Have people tried anything like this and 
> how well did it work?
> 
>Thanks, Sandy and Z (who is a little challenged when it comes to signage!)
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Re: How to stop camera going to live photo

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First, under settings, Camera, Formats, make sure Most Compatible


is selected. Then, under settings, camera, preserve settings, live photo is 
off. 
Then, when in the camera app, make sure live photo says off.  
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> On Apr 21, 2023, at 3:43 PM, N  wrote:
> Hi all,
> the subject field is the question.
> Every time my wife wishes to take a photo the camera goes to live photo. She 
> does want all photos saved as .JPG. I have set the settings that I thought 
> the camera would always save in this format, but no such luck.
> Can anybody tell me what settings to change for this to happen?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: what are good calendar apps

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I just use the native calendar on my iPhone. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 20, 2023, at 8:13 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:What are good calendar apps that are good and accessible and easy to use?



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Re: voice dream scanner question

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In my experience, if it doesn't read the whole page, it is because it did not see the whole page. Try holding the camera a little higher above the document.I recommend about 12 inches. Make sure the camera is above the center of the page.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 19, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:







Hello:
I used the voice dream scanner for the first time today.  However, it read half the page from left to right but not the entire information.  What do I need to do to correct this?  Thanks in advance.
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Re: Playing Apple classical music over my sonos speakers

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I am streaming music from Apple Classical over my Sonos system as I write this. Start the music and pause it. Then bring up the control panel. Then double tap on either phone or bluetooth. I know, you probably aren't using bluetooth but just go through the steps. Flickright until you get to the list of able speakers and your Sonos will be there. My system is on Wi-Fi and it works perfectly. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 17, 2023, at 3:42 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Thanks.   From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 6:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Playing Apple classical music over my sonos speakers According to someone, I spoke to at Sonos, they are working on support between Apple, classical music, and Sonos. However, it is not there yet. I also spoke to someone with Apple about support on Sonos, as well as the Mac and got a similar answer. And he said they have no plans to take it to the Mac with an apple.On Apr 17, 2023, at 4:11 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi. I just bought a Sonos Era-300 and am anxious to hear spatial audio over my Era-300. I tried accessing the new apple Classical music app. I can get into it through Music, then go to apple Classical, but can’t figure out how to play it through Sonos. I can also get to it through Sonos, but can’t connect into the Era-300, although I can using Spotify. Anybody got any suggestions?Thanks. John  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001001d97104%24246ef680%246d4ce380%24%40verizon.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9A969191-22FA-40CB-954A-A0874D021862%40icloud.com.



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Re: changing alarm sound

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My guess is you are missing the save buttzn after selecting the song, and hitting the back button. After the first back button, there is a save button. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 15, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:Thanks for the info about selecting songs.  I can get to the song, but after I double tap on it and exit the clock my alarm still defaults to the original sound.  I think I’m missing a step somewhere.God bless!Paula and the pups From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 2:46 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: changing alarm sound You can use regular mp3 or m4a files for alarms. M4R files are only required for ringtones and text tones. It can be tricky to get to the song selection in the alarm settings, it is either at the top of the list or at the very bottom where you have to use the three finger swipe up multiple times to reach it. At least, that was the case the last time I changed songs.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 15, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote: have you captured the necessary length of the song and saved it as an m4r, then placed it in iTunes to send to your device?- Original Message - From: Paula Jordan To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 12:48 PMSubject: changing alarm sound Hi all.  The subject says it all.  I want to use an already downloaded song for my alarm sound.   Know it can be done, but I’ve had no success.  Any help would be appreciated.Thanks in advance.God bless!Paula and the pups -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008a01d96f01%24bc6caef0%2435460cd0%24%40roadrunner.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/007801d96fc5%24cc336120%247301a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/38D1E9F4-AF1F-40A7-9713-3D0C6C161C46%40comcast.net.



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Re: changing alarm sound

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You can use regular mp3 or m4a files for alarms. M4R files are only required for ringtones and text tones. It can be tricky to get to the song selection in the alarm settings, it is either at the top of the list or at the very bottom where you have to use the three finger swipe up multiple times to reach it. At least, that was the case the last time I changed songs. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 15, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






have you captured the necessary length of the song 
and saved it as an m4r, then placed it in iTunes to send to your 
device?

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  Jordan 
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  Subject: changing alarm sound
  
  
  Hi all.  The subject says it all.  I want to use 
  an already downloaded song for my alarm sound.   Know it can be 
  done, but I’ve had no success.  Any help would be 
  appreciated.
  Thanks in advance.
  God bless!
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RE: GoodMaps

[Richard Turner]

The documentation can be found on this page.
https://goodmaps.com/apps/good-maps-outdoors
It is a ways down the page.




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Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GoodMaps

How do I make goodMaps speak addresses and intersections, not parts of routs, 
while I am walking to nowhere in particular?

Where is the documentation for this app?

Thx,

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RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

[Richard Turner]

Well, have you tried calling Microsoft or Apple Accessibility?

I will double check about the movie quality I have later today to make sure I'm 
not off base.





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Subject: RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

I do exactly what you do and my movies won't play. They are all non hd.


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Subject: RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

Hi,
I think my movies in iTunes are Standard not High Def, but I any case, they 
play just fine on Windows 11.
I open iTunes.
Tab to the button that says music, hit the spacebar and arrow down to movies 
and hit enter.
I tab until I get to the list of movies.
I arrow right or left/up or down until I find the movie I want.
I then press the context menu key and select play, and it plays.




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Subject: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

Hello. I own 6 or 7 non-HD movies that I purchased from the itunes store. In 
windows 11, I can't get them to play on the pc using itunes. Any ideas anyone?


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RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I think my movies in iTunes are Standard not High Def, but I any case, they 
play just fine on Windows 11.
I open iTunes.
Tab to the button that says music, hit the spacebar and arrow down to movies 
and hit enter.
I tab until I get to the list of movies.
I arrow right or left/up or down until I find the movie I want.
I then press the context menu key and select play, and it plays.




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Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 7:04 PM
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Subject: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

Hello. I own 6 or 7 non-HD movies that I purchased from the itunes store. In 
windows 11, I can't get them to play on the pc using itunes. Any ideas anyone?


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RE: weather apps re-visited

[Richard Turner]

FYI, Weather Gods is written as two words.  It is very good.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: weather apps re-visited

 

hi,

 

Apple purchased Dark Sky years ago. the built-in iOS weather app got a major 
update with iOS thirteen, in which it ganed much better functionality. it works 
well. I have another weather app, Weathergods, which works well. it has savare 
storm threats, andf the neet thing about it is it has the ability for you to 
hear the weather. the sounds it has have a tutorial to know what they all mean. 
it works well with VoiceOver, and the developer is extreamly responsive to 
requests posted on AppleVis  for VoiceOver feedback and suggestions. 
WeatherOffice is also quire good. I don’t use it much, but i bought it to test 
it out, and it is good. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 31, 2023, at 8:46 PM, Paula Jordan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:



Hi all. I just saw that dark sky is going away as of today. I’m wondering what 
other weather apps would be good. I’m especially interested in getting alerts 
for severe weather especially  it be storms or snow or whatever. I have 
wonderground but I don’t see an alert setting. I know this topic has -every up 
before, but since I had dark sky and it seemed !be working I didn’t pay as much 
attention as I should have. Thanks for your patients and your knowledge.

God bless!

Paula and the pups might be

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RE: Google maps

[Richard Turner]

My wife bought a new car with the latest CarPlay and I've noticed that when she 
gets directions using Apple Maps, it is far more descriptive than it used to be.
I am starting to prefer Apple Maps over Google Maps because of this.
So, I would suggest giving Apple Maps a try if you are on at least iOS 16.3.1.  
I don't know when the updates were done in Apple Maps, but it is certainly 
improved quite a bit.




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I don't believe Google maps allows you to do this. I know that Apple Maps 
allows this.

> On Mar 31, 2023, at 7:16 AM, Gezim Rexha  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Sorry for the slightly off-topic, but how can I pin or send my location 
> onGoogle Maps? Someone asked me to do that recently, and I didn't know how 
> to. The person who needed that was sighted, and she was not able to explain 
> to me how I could send it using Voiceover.
> 
> Best regards,
> Gezim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
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> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 4:46 AM
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> 
> Hello, when you open up the Google maps app, there is a saved tab, all 
> addresses can be found in there that you have saved.
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 8:46 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> When opening the google maps app only, where can i find the already saved 
>> favorites ?
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks
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MLB is back on TuneIn Premium

[Richard Turner]

Major League Baseball is back on TuneIn Premium. 
I received an announcement from TuneIn today and am currently listening to the 
Giannt against the Yankees. 
When you select a game, if you double tap on the More button, you can choose 
which team's broadcast you wish. 




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RE: iPhone, 15 that is coming out.

[Richard Turner]

Nobody knows until Apple announces it.

That won’t be fore several months yet.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:45 AM
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Subject: iPhone, 15 that is coming out.

 

Hello all,

 

What are all the features about this phone? Also, will it fit in the persons 
pockets? Hopefully it’s smaller than the size of the bigger ones. Referring to 
the plus phones. I would want it to be smaller than that. Where it would fit in 
a pocket and not fall out.

 

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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RE: I just tried wide spectrum

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My guess is that Wide Spectrum is for Apple headphones, but not sure yet.




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I just tried wide spectrum on my i pad it said it is not avalable. Is it only a 
valable in the unitated states?

Adrians ipad

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RE: Does any one know if the noise icesalation feature wil work in the newest i pad update that came out today

[Richard Turner]

I just tested this.
First, the feature is called Voice Isolation, not Noise Isolation.

Anna is correct.  If Wi-Fi calling is on, the feature does not show up.
While on a call, bring up the control center.  Hint, touch the status bar and 
flick up with three fingers to bring up the control center.
IN the top left, will be a microphone mode button, double tap that and you will 
have three options.
Standard, Voice Isolation, or Wide Spectrum.
Double tap on Voice Isolation.
This setting seems to stick so on future calls, it will default to Voice 
Isolation.

I have not actually talked with someone yet with this setting, but used NFB 
Newsline to test the settings availability.

HTH,

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Subject: Re: Does any one know if the noise icesalation feature wil work in the 
newest i pad update that came out today

Hello,

I also heard that this feature isn’t available if you have Wi-Fi calling turned 
on.

Best,
Anna


> On Mar 28, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> OK, thank you so very much for the very quick response. I will have to try it 
> out.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2023, at 7:25 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you do need to be in a phone call, then go to the control 
>> center, and look in there.  I'm looking forward to trying it out once 
>> I make a call.
>> 
>>> On 3/28/23, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>>> How do you do the phone noise cancellation? Do you actually had to 
>>> be in a phone call to activate it, is that why I probably can’t find where 
>>> to do so?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2023, at 6:59 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If you are talking about the isolation feature with cellular 
>>>> calls, it could be if you have an iPad with cellular service, it 
>>>> might. You could call Apple and ask: 877-204-3930
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:54 PM, 'adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
>>>>>  wrote:
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>>>>> Does any one know if the feature where you can cancel out noise 
>>>>> wil work in the new i pad update that came out today?
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>>>>> Adrians ipad
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RE: I O S 16.4

[Richard Turner]

My favorite source is the Applevis Blog.  Here is the direct link to the page 
for iOS and iPadOS 16.4.

https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-164-ipados-164-new-emoji-bug-fixes-security-updates-more

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
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Hello List,

 

Where can I find out what’s new in I O S 16.4?

 

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Re: Does any one know if the noise icesalation feature wil work in the newest i pad update that came out today

[Richard Turner]

If you are talking about the isolation feature with cellular calls, it could be 
if you have an iPad with cellular service, it might. You could call Apple and 
ask: 877-204-3930



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Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

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That explains thing. GoodMaps Explore is for indoors, though it has some outdoors info.  GoodMaps Outdoors is the same zSeeing Eye GPS. GoodMaps Outdooors isfree. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 27, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Tai Tomasi  wrote:Goodmaps Explore is only for indoor locations that the company has mapped. The one that is the same as Seeing Eye gps is Goodmaps Outdoors. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye 
gps. I In Explorer which when opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the 
address I wish to go to. when I find the address in the search it immediately 
opens Maps and it takes over the route.

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye 
  gps
  
  
  According to 
  Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting different 
  information.
  Are you sure you 
  have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?
   
   
  
   
   
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  WrightSent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AMTo: 
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  gps
   
  
  the biggest 
  difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more information if 
  knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are important to 
  you.
  
  *When we 
  finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step 
  toward perfection!
  
   
  
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RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Richard Turner]

According to Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting 
different information.

Are you sure you have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AM
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Subject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

 

the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more 
information if knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are 
important to you.

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RE: Oops. Audioeye?

[Richard Turner]

That overlay is awful.
There is no good way to work with it.
The NFB has published an article concerning such overlays.
Resolution 2021-04: Regarding the Use of Overlays to Make Websites Accessible 
to the Blind
WHEREAS, companies such as EqualWeb, Max Access, UserWay, TruAbilities, 
AudioEye, and accessiBe are deploying overlays as a strategy to automate the 
task of making websites accessible—i.e., compliant with the Web Content 
Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA); 
and

WHEREAS, to make websites nonvisually accessible, overlays are intended among 
other things to identify unlabeled graphics and automatically attach readable 
text descriptions to them; to enable keyboard activation of links, buttons, 
expandable/collapsible menus, and other controls which have been incorrectly 
coded to be triggered only with a mouse; and to insert header tags (often used 
by the blind for quick and efficient navigation on web pages) where the print 
is highlighted or enlarged and not already marked as a heading; and

WHEREAS, in achieving nonvisual access, overlays today have their limitations; 
for example, they cannot determine when a picture that would be described 
generically as “two people standing in front of a building” should be described 
as “Sarah and George standing in front of Macy’s department store”; they cannot 
automatically add audio description to a video presentation; they can 
inappropriately apply headings to text that is not intended to function as a 
heading; they can misinterpret the layout of a table and improperly handle row 
or column headings; and they cannot accurately solve an inaccessible visual 
CAPTCHA; and

WHEREAS, the current inability of overlays to perform all of the tasks critical 
to nonvisual access means that, while they may help to make certain parts of a 
website nonvisually accessible, they alone cannot guarantee full nonvisual 
access to every website where they are deployed; and

WHEREAS, companies deploying overlays have attracted hundreds of thousands of 
customers by fostering the false idea that with one easy operation (e.g., 
inserting a small amount of code) their websites will be accessible and fully 
compliant with prevailing web content accessibility guidelines and, further, 
that they will be protected from lawsuits; and

WHEREAS, the companies deploying overlays have not, in any meaningful way,  
engaged with the accessibility community, not to mention the organized blind, 
to learn from a broad base of consumers whether or not overlays really improve 
the accessibility of websites; and

WHEREAS, as the use of overlays has grown, blind people have encountered an 
increasing number of websites where they have been prompted to turn on an 
accessibility or screen reader mode by pressing ALT+1, ALT+0, or some other key 
combination, but there is no readily-available information to tell them whose 
overlay is operating, how to report problems with the use of the overlay, 
whether or not the overlay is actually turned on, and how to disable the 
overlay if it isn’t working as expected; and

WHEREAS, some of the overlays which are supposed to improve the accessibility 
of the websites where they are installed present accessibility options (e.g., 
screen reader profile or anti-seizure profile) which are themselves not 
accessible to screen-reader users; and

WHEREAS, the lack of helpful information and the presence of inaccessible 
overlay controls leave people with disabilities without the means to provide 
feedback and suggestions, use the overlay effectively, or report problems 
related to the overlay; and

WHEREAS, given the large customer base which some overlay providers enjoy, it 
is certain that the blind will encounter more and more websites where overlays 
are employed, ostensibly to improve accessibility; consequently, there is a 
compelling need for us to obtain direct, hands-on experience with the various 
overlays on the market today in order to determine the strengths and weaknesses 
of each overlay product and to identify those overlay providers whose 
technology might actually offer real and sustainable nonvisual access to 
websites and web-based applications; and

WHEREAS, the blind continue to fall behind as the number of websites created 
and deployed far outpaces the number of websites which we can confidently 
declare to be usable and accessible, and thus any solution which gives the 
blind true nonvisual access is welcome: Now, therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED by the National Federation of the Blind in Convention assembled 
this tenth day of July, 2021, that this organization call upon overlay 
developers and their paying customers to engage with the National Federation of 
the Blind and the broader accessibility community to ensure that overlays are 
developed and implemented in ways that truly improve access to websites; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this organization insist that current and potential 

RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

[Richard Turner]

Here is an article that may clear up some confusion.

For Immediate Release GoodMaps Continues to Provide Enhanced Wayfinding thru 
Partnerships with Intel, Mapping UK Stations and Stores LOUISVILLE, Ky. 
(February 21, 2022) – GoodMaps, born out of American Printing House for the 
Blind (APH), continues to create innovative wayfinding experiences for the 
visually impaired. With a recently announced partnership with Intel, expansion 
of wayfinding through UK train stations and grocery stores, an acquisition of 
Sendero GPS, the beginning of APH GoodMaps Education and the start of the 2022 
Smart Cities project with APH. As part of the Intel RISE Technology Initiative 
(IRTI), GoodMaps is collaborating with Intel to deliver a high-quality indoor 
wayfinding solution for all, with special emphasis on improving indoor 
navigation for people including those who are blind or low vision, mobility 
impaired, and deaf or hard of hearing. With GoodMaps technology people can 
safely, effectively and easily navigate indoor spaces resulting in greater 
independence when traveling. In the United Kingdom, GoodMaps has revolutionized 
the way passengers' access, utilize, and travel throughout railway stations, 
due to the partnership with Transpennine Express. Any passenger traveling 
through TPE stations will now be able to navigate with turn-by-turn directions 
throughout their stations using the GoodMaps Explore app, available on both iOS 
and Android free of charge. GoodMaps Explore can navigate travelers from the 
station entrance, through ticket barriers, and onto their train, with 
confidence and ease. By providing an inclusive navigation solution to the TPE 
transportation community, GoodMaps technology increases the adoption of public 
transport with a new enhanced wayfinding experience. GoodMaps recently acquired 
the Sendero GPS mobile app from Aira and released the subscription apps, Seeing 
Eye GPS, RNIB Navigator and Guide Dogs NSW under the name GoodMaps Outdoors for 
free. These state-of-the-art digital maps are then made available in the 
GoodMaps Explore app, which provides audio instructions to communicate routing 
and critical spatial 1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206 information as 
users move throughout a space, whether indoors or outdoors. The app can be 
downloaded for free in the Apple App Store or Android Marketplace. GoodMaps 
requires no infrastructure or beacons in a building. Others require dozens of 
beacons, which are costly and require maintenance. By utilizing LiDAR and image 
recognition, GoodMaps provide fast and accurate maps of indoor spaces at a 
fraction of the effort and costs. About American Printing House for the Blind’s 
GoodMaps Explore GoodMaps Explore is an accessible navigation application. It 
helps everyone, visually impaired or not, navigate indoors and outdoors safely 
and efficiently. To make that happen, GoodMaps is on a mission to map the great 
indoors by streamlining that process. We can accurately map a building in the 
time it takes to walk through it. All of these maps are available to Explore 
app users. Another revolutionary aspect of GoodMaps Explore is the superior 
positioning accuracy provided by camera-based positioning (CPS). CPS is not 
limited to indoor positioning and has the potential to bring this accuracy 
level outdoors. For more information, please go to www.GoodMaps.com 
 .

 

Article at: 
https://www.aph.org/app/uploads/2022/05/Feb.-2022-Release-Only-GoodMaps-Update-FINAL-2-21-22.pdf

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Sorry, forgot to make the "GoodMaps Outdoors 
 " title into a 
link in my previous message.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Can you provide a link because I think you are mixing up a number of old and 
new apps.

There used to be an app called Nearby Explorer from American Printing House and 
the nof course there was the Seeing Eye GPS app which still seems to be 
lingering in the app store. I did, however, not find anything any more when I 
searched for Nearby Explorer.

 

To my knowledge there are now just the two apps from GoodMaps Inc.,:

 

GoodMaps Outdoors

This is what the Seeing Eye GPS used to be, very similar app layout, the 
description is as follows:

GoodMaps 

Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

[Richard Turner]

I would try GoodMaps Outdoors. It is free and has very good intersection descriptions. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 22, 2023, at 10:06 AM, lynda.ingra...@gmail.com wrote:Hellow Everyone,  I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.  Thank you in advance,  Lynda 



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RE: Getting started with Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

BlindSquare is not a turn-by-turn navigation app, as you have figured out.

Yu an search for a business or address, and once found, you will find an option 
to begin a route, then you will have a choice of which navigation app to use.

You can leave BlindSquare running in the background when the other app, Google 
or Apple, takes over and blindsquare will continue giving you updates.  That 
can get a little busy.

 

As for exploring an area, search for the address of your new house, then keep 
flicking through the options to Simulate This Location.

Once you start the simulation, you can use the various categories to explore 
what is around yu.

 

It takes some patience and trial and error, but works quite well.

 

Note, the data may or not be up to date.  Sometimes businesses go out or change 
names and the digital map takes a long time to get updated.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

 

 

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting started with Blind Square

 

Hi,

 

I just downloaded Blind Square and am a little overwhelmed by all the options.  
I have a couple of questions that hopefully will get me started.

 

When I decided to get Blind Square I thought it would work in a similar way to 
Apple Maps or Good Maps Outdoors.  After reading some of the manual, it seems 
that Blind Square works in conjunction with Apple Maps and not in place of it.  
So, what do I need to do to use them together?

 

Second, I bought Blind Square because I want to explore routes and destinations 
starting from a location different than my actual location.  My wife and I are 
buying a house in a different town.  I’d like to figure out what businesses are 
in the area of our new house.  I’d like to figure out the location of 
particular types of businesses such as drug stores or florists (our anniversary 
is coming soon) to know which I can reach by walking or by public 
transportation.  

 

Any pointers to get me started would be much appreciated.

 

Ralph

 

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Re: Looking for accessible GPS App

[Richard Turner]

I know of no GPS apps that will tell you about sidewalks. But, Apple Maps has 
gotten a lot better recently. Google Maps is also very good. You might also 
like GoodMaps outdoors. They give a little more detail on intersections. Those 
are all free apps. 




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> On Mar 15, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, is there an accessible GPS App that I could use with my 
> iPhone?
> 
> 
> It doesn't matter so much if it is free, or if I have to pay for it.
> 
> 
> I am looking for something that can show me what is around.
> 
> But also, a way to know where possible sidewalks are. But I am uncertain as 
> to whether or not such a thing exists.
> 
> 
> I am wanting to be able to walk to the rec center that is only about a 4th of 
> a mile from my home.
> 
> However, I don't know if this is even possible.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Where Does Scanner Keep It?

[Richard Turner]

If you start at the top left and flick right with one finger, you will find 
where it says Page and a number, double tap on that.

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 9:48 AM
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Subject: RE: Where Does Scanner Keep It?

 

How can I retreave the kept one from yesterday, please?

Thanks!

 

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Subject: Re: Where Does Scanner Keep It?

 

It keeps it on your phone within the Voice Dream Scanner app. So, if you scan 
another document, and keep it, that new one will be added to the previous one 
and so on. You can choose to save it by exporting it to another app. 

Then, clear it out of Scanner, and scan new items. 

 

 

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On Mar 12, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I gotta question about Voice Dream Scanner.

When we scan a document, it gives the options to play, discard or keep.

Where does it keep the document if I take keep option, please?

Thanks!

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Re: Where Does Scanner Keep It?

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It keeps it on your phone within the Voice Dream Scanner app. So, if you scan another document, and keep it, that new one will be added to the previous one and so on. You can choose to save it by exporting it to another app. Then, clear it out of Scanner, and scan new items. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 12, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
Hi, Group.I gotta question about Voice Dream Scanner.When we scan a document, it gives the options to play, discard or keep.Where does it keep the document if I take keep option, please?Thanks!



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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

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Ih have handled the Focus 14 Blue. I'm simply not a bfan of Freedom's hardware.  It feels less well made than other displays; but that is very subjective. The reality is that you need hands on yourself with the varighs displays in order to decide what meets your need. Some State rehab offices have displays you can check out if you happen to live near one. otherwise you have to buy one, check it out during the period that you could return it for a full refund, and then try another. 'Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 7, 2023, at 7:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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RE: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Richard Turner]

Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, 
Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?

Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it 
is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.

I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

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Subject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays
Importance: High

 

Hello everyone,

 

I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be 
personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my 
iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and 
easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone 
have any suggestions or recommendations?

 

I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the 
option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I 
utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or 
TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using 
Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able 
to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  
I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional 
reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at 
loreallavi...@gmail.com   or by text at 
5183305188.

 

Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Richard Turner]

   
   http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/3f36c0d58f366b98
  
  =
  Topic: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"
  Url:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/t/f51e771c35eb467e
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  -- 1 of 6 --
  From: Steve Matzura 
  Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
  Url:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
  I found this most interesting. I think it started in
iOS 16, but maybe 
  not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone,
either way VoiceOver 
  says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max
and a 14 Pro Max. 
  However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both
positions, the phone 
  sounds are definitely muted when the switched is
moved to the back of 
  the phone, and restored when moved to the front.
Anyone else ever notice 
  this?
  
  -- 2 of 6 --
  From: Donna Casteen 
  Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
  Url:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
  I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or
iPhone Se 2020. Both phones are running the most up to
date IOS version.
  Donna
  
  -- 3 of 6 --
  From: Joshua Hendrickson 
  Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
  Url:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
  I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I
hear muted, if I
  flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max
updated to the
  latest version.
  
  -- 
  Joshua Hendrickson
  Joshua Hendrickson
  
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  From: Alan Lemly 
  Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
  Url:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
  Steve, 
  That is most interesting and you should probably
investigate why this is happening just for you. It seems
unlikely that all three of the devices you mentioned
have hardware issues so it must be something with their
settings. As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks
muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 13 Mini when
the switch is activated or deactivated. 
  Alan Lemly 
          Sent from my iPhone
  
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  From: "Richard Turner"

  Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
  Url:
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
  It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is
needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
  My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do
not find any settings related to the mute switch, but
Apple Accessibility would be able to figure this one
out.
  
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who are in touch with it."  --  Jane Wagner from The
Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
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  Steve, 
  That is most interesting and you should probably
investigate why this is happening just for you. It seems
unlikely that all three of the devices you mentioned
have hardware issues so it must be something with their
settings. As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks
muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 13 Mini when
the switch is activated or deactivated. 
  Alan Lemly 
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RE: Setting constant speed in Voice Dream Reader

[Richard Turner]

You could write Winston and ask, but I think Joshua is correct.  Audio files 
are not like text based files.  supp...@voicedream.com




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Subject: Re: Setting constant speed in Voice Dream Reader

That is just something you'll have to get used to.  While you can quickly 
adjust the playback speed of whatever zip file you are reading, whenever you go 
to the new file to read, it always defaults to 100%.  There is nothing that can 
be done to change this.

On 3/1/23, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> All,
> So now that I've imported my zip files into folders in Voice Dream 
> Reader, I'm wondering if there is a way to set the audio speed for all 
> of the files in that folder? Currently I have to set the speed faster 
> for each zip file that I play. While this is doable, it can be 
> redundant. All thoughts welcome.
>
> Warmly,
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> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
> Check out my GoodReads page:
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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Richard Turner]

Mark,
That is not my experience at all.
It says what it should say whether the phone is locked or not.
I just retested it.
For what it is worth, I use Siri Voice 4 female as my VoiceOver voice.




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Subject: RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

OK, update to my last post.

After reading Jenny’s post, I used the mute hardware switch when the phone was 
both locked and unlocked.

1.
When the phone is unlocked, Voiceover performs as expected.

2.
However, when the phone is locked, regardless of the state of the switch when 
the phone was unlocked, VoiceOver says, “Unmuted.”  

Interesting, to say the least.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 4:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Hi,

Mine is strange. When my phone is unlocked, it will announce muted or unmuted 
as it should. When I lock it and press the side switch, then it says whatever 
it was on before I locked the phone. So, if my phone was on muted, the phone 
will say muted even when I flick the switch up. When I unlock it again, all is 
well.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   


On Mar 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a 13 pro. I just tried it and it reports muted and unmuted as it's 
suppose to.

Chris Judge


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To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. If 
I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
"unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?

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RE: Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader

[Richard Turner]

Far as I know, you cannot use Voice Dream Reader to create a zip file.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
anthonyborg...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader

 

Can you please explain to me how to create a zip file in voice dream?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: 28 February 2023 11:55
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader

 

You can create a zip file with them all in there and put them into dropbox or 
Google Drive. Then you can import that one zip file into voice dream reader. 
Then it will open it will play those songs in order and yes, you can increase 
the speed if you’d like.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 27, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

You cannot import a folder, but you can import a zip file of the mp3 files and 
VoiceDream will treat them like a book or album so each file is a track. VDR 
will name the book/album by whatever the zip file is named. And, will order 
them alphanumerically in VDR. Yes, you can adjust the speed the same way you 
can other files in VDR. 

 

 

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Greetings. I know this topic has come up before on this list, but now I'm 
curious about it. I'm wanting to import a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream 
Reader. Can someone please send the steps on how to do this? Also, is it 
possible to listen to these files at a faster than normal speed inVDR? 

Thanks, 

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RE: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
this one out.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 8:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

Steve, 

That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even 
> though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are definitely 
> muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored when 
> moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: Importing a folder of MP3 files into Voice Dream Reader

[Richard Turner]

You cannot import a folder, but you can import a zip file of the mp3 files and 
VoiceDream will treat them like a book or album so each file is a track. VDR 
will name the book/album by whatever the zip file is named. And, will order 
them alphanumerically in VDR. Yes, you can adjust the speed the same way you 
can other files in VDR. 



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> On Feb 27, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Greetings. I know this topic has come up before on this list, but now I'm 
> curious about it. I'm wanting to import a folder of MP3 files into Voice 
> Dream Reader. Can someone please send the steps on how to do this? Also, is 
> it possible to listen to these files at a faster than normal speed inVDR? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
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A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking outdoors

[Richard Turner]

NYC thieves stealing Apple headphones off victims' heads

By Associated Press
February 26, 2023 at 11:43 a.m. EST


NEW YORK — Listen up! At least 21 people in New York City have had their fancy 
Apple headphones stolen right off their heads by a roving team of moped-riding 
bandits, police say.
The thefts started on Jan. 28 and have typically involved four people on two 
mopeds riding up to victims from behind, snatching their Apple AirPods Max 
headphones and then speeding off. The noise-canceling devices currently retail 
for $549 a piece.

The sonic swipers have struck all over Manhattan, including one incident in 
Central Park, with victims ranging in age from 18 to 41, police said. The bulk 
of the thefts happened in mid-to-late afternoon. Five headphones were stolen on 
Feb. 8 and eight were taken on Feb. 18.
The thieves remain at large, and no arrests have been made.
Police this week released a photo of suspects riding mopeds and a video showing 
one of them getting off a moped carrying two AirPod Max headphones and walking 
into Washington Square Park.
Unlike AirPods and AirPods Pro, which are small and fit inside the ear, AirPods 
Max headphones rest over the ears and have an adjustable headband connecting 
the right and left sides.




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