Re: Accessible Flight-Tracker?

[Alan Lemly]

FlightView Elite. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 19, 2024, at 3:09 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:







Hi, Group.
I am looking for an accessible flight-tracker for iPhone, any recommendations?
Thanks!






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Re: Phone Not Ringing

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Hi Chela, Yes, Do not disturb is one of the named setting groups within Focus mode but the overall mode used to be called Do not disturb and I still think that is a better name for the overall mode as opposed to Focus. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 10:55 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:Actually, Alan, there is still do not disturb. I just tested it out with Siri and I was able to toggle it on and off so she might want to try that. Then she can have someone test call her or something and see if the phone rings. And if she does have the volume set to 100%, which is very loud in my opinion, she’ll be able to really hear it. I usually have mine set to like half that. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Sandy, I'm with Sieghard and Richard on this one. It sounds as if Focus has been turned on on your device. Why they ever renamed Do not disturb to Focus is beyond me but they did. Focus contains the ability to have various named settings such as Sleep, Do not disturb, Work meeting, etc. You can check or set up these under Settings, Focus. As Sieghard posted, you can check whether Focus is currently turned on within the Control Center. I access the Control Center by placing focus on something in the topline status bar such as the time and doing a 3 finger swipe up. This will open the Control Center screen and you can follow Sieghard's excellent instructions to check it. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Definitely sounds like one o fthe focus modes like Do Not Disturb could be turned on. If you pull down from the top a little way to bring up control centre, you can then check on the left side of the screen about half way down where it
 says "Focus", if it only says "Focus" then it's fine, but if you hear something like "Focus, Do Not Disturb" or "Focus, Sleep" this means the Do Not Disturb or Sleep focus is is turned on and this would most likely cause all your calls to go straight to voice
 mail unless you set up exceptions in Settings > Focus to allow certain calls through or to allow notifications from certain apps.
Also keep in mind that if you go to Settings > Focus, it will tell you if any of the focus options is "on", but you can't turn it off from there, this has to be done via control centre and I believe you can also ask Siri to turn a particular
 focus on or off..
 


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When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could cause
 this behavior?  Thank you.
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Re: Phone Not Ringing

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Sandy, I'm with Sieghard and Richard on this one. It sounds as if Focus has been turned on on your device. Why they ever renamed Do not disturb to Focus is beyond me but they did. Focus contains the ability to have various named settings such as Sleep, Do not disturb, Work meeting, etc. You can check or set up these under Settings, Focus. As Sieghard posted, you can check whether Focus is currently turned on within the Control Center. I access the Control Center by placing focus on something in the topline status bar such as the time and doing a 3 finger swipe up. This will open the Control Center screen and you can follow Sieghard's excellent instructions to check it. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Definitely sounds like one o fthe focus modes like Do Not Disturb could be turned on. If you pull down from the top a little way to bring up control centre, you can then check on the left side of the screen about half way down where it
 says "Focus", if it only says "Focus" then it's fine, but if you hear something like "Focus, Do Not Disturb" or "Focus, Sleep" this means the Do Not Disturb or Sleep focus is is turned on and this would most likely cause all your calls to go straight to voice
 mail unless you set up exceptions in Settings > Focus to allow certain calls through or to allow notifications from certain apps.
Also keep in mind that if you go to Settings > Focus, it will tell you if any of the focus options is "on", but you can't turn it off from there, this has to be done via control centre and I believe you can also ask Siri to turn a particular
 focus on or off..
 


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To: iPhone List 
Subject: Phone Not Ringing


 
When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could cause
 this behavior?  Thank you.
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Re: Problem unsubscribing from Voice OCR

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Hi Bill, I find the easiest way to get into my account to check or take action on subscriptions is to do a single finger triple tap on the App Store icon on my home screen, swipe to Updates on the context menu which opens and double tap when it has focus, swipe to Subscriptions on the screen that opens, and double tap to review the apps I've subscribed to. You should be able to find Voice OCR there and take the desired action. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 13, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:I’m trying to figure out a way to unsubscribe from Voice OCR, I don’t need the $10 plus monthly expense. Can anybody offer any advice or suggestions?TIA- Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone SE (iOS 17.4.1) via Google Mail    



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Fwd: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issue

[Alan Lemly]

Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: "David Goldfield via groups.io" Date: May 8, 2024 at 2:23:04 PM CDTTo: Tech-VI Announcement List Subject: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issueReply-To: tech...@groups.io







 


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It has been a difficult couple of days for Sonos users. Now that the inaccessible app is out, I've reworked, and substantially updated, my blog post. I'll continue to add to it if I receive word of further media releases
 or coverage.
I think Sonos now owes us two thinks, an urgent repair of the app, and a public apology to repair trust.
https://mosen.org/sonos2024/





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Re: seeking correct cable

[Alan Lemly]

Vicki, 

A lightning connector and USB C connector feel very similar especially 
concerning their depth or thickness. The USB C connector feels just a bit 
slightly wider in my opinion. The nice thing about both of them is they have no 
top or bottom differences so can be plugged into a compatible port regardless 
of which side is up or down. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm a little confused about the difference in shape between the lightning 
> and C ends. Are they simular?
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2024 2:29 PM
> Subject: RE: seeking correct cable
> 
> 
> That is only true if you have a wall charger which also has a USB-C plug. 
> There are still many wall adapters out there which have a regular full-size 
> USB-A port in which case you would need a cable with USB-A (large USB plug on 
> one end and a USB-C on the other end which would plug into your iPhone. Of 
> course the way of the future is USB-C and most of the new wall adapters which 
> provide the proper power for fast charging will have USB-C ports or you may 
> have a third party adapter with multiple ports in which case often you have 1 
> full-size USB-A port and 1, 2 or 3 USB-C ports.
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 10:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: seeking correct cable
> 
> A cable with USB C on both ends is what you need. With the 15 series Apple 
> has finally done away with the proprietary lightning connector.
> 
>> On May 3, 2024, at 3:47 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,  Can anyone tell me what type of cable to purchase for charging the 15 
>> plus? I know one end will be a C connection, but is it C on both ends or is 
>> it an A on one end for the brick or hub?
>> Thanks.
>> Vicki
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Fwd: [Tech-VI] It appears Sonos is about to become less useable by screen reader users. The CEO should stop it now, but here’s how to protect your investment if he doesn’t – Mosen At Large

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Title: It appears Sonos is about to become less useable by screen reader users. The CEO should stop it now, but here’s how to protect your investment if he doesn’t – Mosen At Large
Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: "David Goldfield via groups.io" Date: May 3, 2024 at 11:59:34 PM CDTTo: List Subject: [Tech-VI] It appears Sonos is about to become less useable by screen reader users. The CEO should stop it now, but here’s how to protect your investment if he doesn’t – Mosen At LargeReply-To: tech...@groups.io







https://mosen.org/sonos2024/






It appears Sonos is about to become less useable by screen reader users. The CEO should stop it now, but here’s how to protect your investment if he doesn’t


Jonathan
 Mosen Posted on

04/05/2024
Posted
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accessibility, 
commentary 

What is Sonos?
Sonos develop a series of high-quality smart speakers. They are known for their ability to stay in sync throughout your home when the speakers are grouped. Sonos speakers come in a range of form factors, from portable devices all
 the way to soundbars.
You can send content to all current Sonos speakers via Apple’s AirPlay, and some support Bluetooth. But integral to the Sonos experience is its dedicated app. It is used to add speakers, configure services, set alarms, modify system
 preferences, search across streaming music services, add frequently used radio stations and more.
Because the app is critical to the operation of a Sonos network, those of us who are blind and have invested in the ecosystem have done so based on trust. We trust that Sonos will act responsibly, and not release an update to their
 app which, at worst, would turn the investment blind people have made into unusable paperweights. We rely on Sonos to keep their end of the bargain and ensure that their updates adhere to good accessibility practices so their apps are accessible with screen
 readers such as VoiceOver on Mac and iOS, Talkback on Android, and various third-party screen readers for Windows.
Unfortunately, it appears that Sonos is about to breach that trust significantly, with a new app scheduled for release on 7 May.
This article outlines the problem and why it is such an egregious act of bad faith on Sonos’s part. It then discusses how blind people can hopefully protect and preserve access to the speakers they have paid for, at least in the
 short term.
Seeking answers from Sonos
In late-April, Sonos announced a complete rewrite of their mobile apps, due for release on 7 May. The separate tabs at the bottom of the app will be gone. Instead, everything will happen on a single screen the user can organise to
 suit their preferences.
There are certain triggering keywords for those of us who’ve been in the accessibility advocacy space. When Sonos talked of the app being “rewritten from the ground up” and a “new look and feel”, that prompted questions at best,
 rang alarm bells at worst.
Immediately, the 
Living Blindfully email box started receiving email from anxious Sonos users, wanting to know whether accessibility had been taken into account.
Some years ago, I wrote a book about Sonos which was responsible for some blind people getting into the ecosystem. I have beta tested for Sonos on and off. But the public announcement was the first time I had heard that work was
 underway on a new app.
My hope was that capable blind people had been involved from the early design stages of these new apps, because even if you know a tiny bit about accessibility, you will know that it’s far easier to build it into the foundation of
 your app rather than try to retrofit it later. Plus, the latter approach usually means accessibility isn’t done for the initial release. That has the effect of turning blind people into second class customers. I was cautiously optimistic given Sonos’s consistent
 commitment to accessibility in recent years. It is that commitment which has encouraged many blind people to embrace the platform.
Hoping for the best but fearing the worst, on 25 April I wrote to Sonos’s CEO, Patrick Spence, asking if accessibility had been taken into account when designing the new app. I explained the anxiety that was beginning to emerge in
 the blind community given that no mention had been made by Sonos of accessibility in any communication on the new app.
I also invited him, or a representative of Sonos, onto Living Blindfully so we could talk about Sonos’s ongoing commitment to accessibility.
I did not receive a reply to that email, and of course it is Patrick’s prerogative not to reply. I wrote to him because he has been helpful in the past. I then sought answers on the Sonos Subreddit, and was pleased that another blind
 Sonos user had beaten me to it with a question about screen reader accessibility. The very helpful Sonos staff member answering questions on the Sonos subreddit didn’t have any immediate answers for us on accessibility, which gave me yet another sinking feeling,
 but he did undertake to research the 

Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

[Alan Lemly]

Kelby, 

I just added a Bookshare title to Voice Dream Reader without any issues. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2024, at 7:58 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> Starting today, I am no longer able to add Bookshare books to my Voice Dream 
> library. I can still search for them, but none of them have "download" 
> buttons. I can add other types of files to my library, including Bookshare 
> books if I download them from the website.
> 
> I have updated to the latest version, as well as rebooted my phone, and 
> logged out and back in to Bookshare. Voice Dream support has not yet written 
> me back (in fact I don't know if I've ever received a response from them 
> since Applause bought it.)
> Has anyone else seen this problem?
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RE: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

[Alan Lemly]

Mike,

 

So glad my suggestion worked. You are always so helpful to everyone on numerous 
lists we both frequent and it feels good to pay back.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
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Subject: Re: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

 

Hi Alan,

 

Your idea works like a charm!  I've removed my prior  entries and replaced them 
with yours.  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2024 5:14 PM

Subject: Re: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

 

Mike, 

 

I'm glad you came up with a workable solution. Would you mind indulging me and 
adding corp to your pronunciation dictionary with corpe as its substituted 
word? I'm just curious how your synth handles this and it will be a lot easier 
for you to check than for me to change my synth to test it. Thanks. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 1, 2024, at 6:44 PM, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi All,
 
Well I took a different route and instead of using Corporation in the Add field 
I inserted, Lab Corporation, and the replacement field I inserted, Lab
Core, and now it's reading the way I want  it to.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

 

 

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From: Mike B. <mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>  

To: VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, April 01, 2024 2:16 PM

Subject: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

 

Hi All,

 

Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 phone, and I can't get pronunciations to say, " 
Corp", instead of, "Corporation."

 

I've tried inputting both words into the Add field and both words into the 
substitution field with all combinations, but I can't get Corp to be spoken in 
replacement of Corporation.

 

Any ideas on how I can get this accomplished?  All input is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

 

 

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Re: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

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Mike, I'm glad you came up with a workable solution. Would you mind indulging me and adding corp to your pronunciation dictionary with corpe as its substituted word? I'm just curious how your synth handles this and it will be a lot easier for you to check than for me to change my synth to test it. Thanks. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 1, 2024, at 6:44 PM, Mike B.  wrote:






Hi All, Well I took a different route and 
instead of using Corporation in the Add field I inserted, Lab Corporation, and 
the replacement field I inserted, LabCore, and now it's reading the way I 
want  it to.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers! 

 
 
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To: VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2024 2:16 PM
Subject: Pronunciation Dictionary Problem

Hi All,
 
Running iOS 17.4.1 on an SE2022 phone, and I can't 
get pronunciations to say, " Corp", instead of, "Corporation."
 
I've tried inputting both words into the Add field and 
both words into the substitution field with all combinations, but I can't get 
Corp to be spoken in replacement of Corporation.
 
Any ideas on how I can get this accomplished?  All 
input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
 
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Re: voicedream scanner

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Apologies for stating the obvious but those choosing to not subscribe to Voice Dream Reader effective 5/1/24 will no longer be able to export scanned content from VD Scan into Voice Dream Reader after that date. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 27, 2024, at 8:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Voice Dream Scanner, VDScan, is still owned by Winston Chen.So, it is not a part of this discussion about Voice Dream Reader.However, if you are talking about the scanner built into Voice Dream Reader, you need to ask supp...@voicedream.comBut the stand-alone app is still owned by Winston under his new company named Opusnoma.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula JordanSent: Wednesday, March 27, 2024 5:41 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: voicedream scanner Hi all.  So, does this mean that we can no longer use VDSCAN? Just wondering.Thanks.God bless!Paula and the pups-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/026801da80a8%24a11e9cd0%24e35bd670%24%40roadrunner.com.



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Re: dropbox issue

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Hi Vicki, You don't mention which Dropbox bottomline toolbar button has focus when unable to navigate by headings. It sounds as if the Files button might have focus and I don't believe that screen uses headings. When focus is on my Home bottomline toolbar button, I'm able to easily navigate among its headings using the rotor. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 6:02 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:






Hi,
 
After updating my mini IPad 5 to the latest IOS 
version, the headings in Dropbox are not showing up. I have the most recent 
version of Dropbox and it was working fine until I updated the IOS. 

 
When inside a dropbox folder, even though I've 
changed nothing as far as settings, I can no longer go from numbers to letters 
and go between letters using the headings option in the rrotor. Anyone else had 
this issue and can it be fixed? 
 
Dropbox with the same Dropbox version is working 
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Re: Pill Reminder App question

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Hi Sandy, When I just went into Pill Reminder and accessed the Reminders tab, I was able to set up two reminders at the exact same time for the two meds I had previously set up on the Medications tab. You might access the Medications tab to add all your meds and then set up the reminders for the times you want to take them. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 22, 2024, at 6:56 PM, Sandra Finley  wrote:Recently I asked for recommendations of an app that reminds the user  of daily meds. Several of you recommended Pill Reminder. I have been working with it and have  one question. One of the tabs at the bottom of the screen is called Reminder. I have created five  daily reminders, one for each of the times I need to take meds each day. So far so good. For some of those reminders I need to put in more than one med and I don’t se how or where to do that. Is this something the app does not  do? Thanks for your help. Sandy Finley    



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Re: Med Minders

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Hi Sandy, Personally, I'd use my Amazon Echo to set up these reminders. You can set the Echo so it also sends you a reminder notification and/or text message to your iPhone too. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 28, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Sandra Finley  wrote:Hello. I am in need of a way to remind myself that it is time to take meds.   I am taking them five times each day and, since the amounts vary, I need it to remind me of not only when to take them, but also what. Can anyone on this list recommend am app for this? I have not yet ruled out the iOs reminder app or the alarm, but I am interested in looking at all of my options.  T Thank you. Sandy Finley 



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Re: updaate apple iD settings

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Michael, This is the sort of issue where calling Apple Accessibility and getting them to screen share can make a big difference. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2024, at 9:18 AM, Michael Amaro  wrote:





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I  have an iPhone sE 2022, running latest 
iOS.  In settings,  I  have  a button that says update apple 
iD settings.  When I press it, I hit continue after pressing the update 
apple iD settings button.  The phone just sits there.  It takes me 
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Re: Question about dropbox

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Rena, I'm using a Dropbox Plus account so I don't know if my recommendation will be applicable to you or not. When you open the Dropbox app, at the very top left it should say which bottomline toolbar button is currently selected such as Home. Single finger swipe right and you should land on Notifications where you can double tap to open options where you can swipe to mark all as read and execute it. Hopefully, that will resolve your issue. And FYI, when I open the Dropbox app, my notifications are not listed unless I open them using that topline button. And Robert Doc Wright, please get your email under control since you are submitting multiple messages with the same info. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2024, at 6:13 AM, Rena  wrote:I only see the notifications when I open dropbox. I can see one by one, open and read. If I go to notifications, there’s nothing.How can I delete them? Rena  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 7:56 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Question about dropbox Touch in the status bar area where it shows the time and your battery level. Swipe down with 3-fingers to get to notifications.swipe right to the notification you wish to remove then flick up with 1 finger and double tap cvlear    - Original Message - From: Rena To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 4:57 AMSubject: Question about dropbox Hello, I installed dropbox in my iPhone, and now I have several notifications from dropbox.I want to delete them, but I don’t find any delete button.How do I delete these notifications? Rena -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/040a01da4617%24b42f1eb0%241c8d5c10%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000c01da4698%2456843850%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.



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Re: Question about dropbox

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Rena, I'll add to Robert's triple post and hopefully provide something helpful. He provided the steps to open the notifications area which I'm assuming you're already getting. In order to delete notifications that are listed in that area on your home screen, place focus on the one you wish to delete, single finger swipe up on the screen and the first thing you hear should be Clear at which you can single finger double tap the screen to execute the Clear. If you wish to change how notifications are presented, go to Settings, Notifications and explore the various options there. As you move down that screen, you will come to an alphabetized listing of all the apps on your device where you can drill down into each one and change its notification settings. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 13, 2024, at 5:57 AM, Rena  wrote:Hello, I installed dropbox in my iPhone, and now I have several notifications from dropbox.I want to delete them, but I don’t find any delete button.How do I delete these notifications? Rena 



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RE: How can I make Voiceover output through attached Bluetooth speaker?

[Alan Lemly]

Many thanks to those who replied. Richard, you knocked it out of the park again 
with your reply. I went to Settings, Bluetooth, placed focus on my connected 
Tribit speaker, single finger swiped up to More info and double tapped, and 
changed device type from speaker to headphones. No change was apparent 
initially so I did a hard reset of my iPhone 13 Mini leaving the speaker turned 
on and after I input my passcode, Voiceover was coming through the speaker as I 
swiped through my home screen items. Books and other media still play through 
the speaker as before after doing this.

 

Thanks again and here’s wishing everyone a happy, healthy, and prosperous new 
year.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How can I make Voiceover output through attached Bluetooth speaker?

 

This is just a guess, but in your bluetooth settings on your phone, have you 
tried flicking up on that speaker to more info and changing the type to 
headphone? I'm thinking that would put all sound including VO through the 
speaker. 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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On Dec 31, 2023, at 6:32 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi List,

 

Apologies for revisiting a previously discussed topic but as you know, audio 
changes with these devices seem constant and not usually for the better in my 
opinion. I’m running iOS 17.2 on an iPhone 13 Mini. If I want to share 
something on my device with someone who also uses a screen reader and want 
Voiceover to come through an attached Bluetooth Tribit MaxSound Plus Speaker, 
is there a way to do this? I suspect the answer might vary depending on the 
speaker being used. What I’m currently experiencing is that Voiceover is coming 
through the iPhone’s built in speakers and audio from a book playing in BARD 
Mobile or other media content such as music comes through the attached Tribit 
speaker. Is there some sort of setting tweak I can make that will get me where 
I want?

 

I welcome any suggestions or recommendations to resolve this and thanks in 
advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly 

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How can I make Voiceover output through attached Bluetooth speaker?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

Apologies for revisiting a previously discussed topic but as you know, audio
changes with these devices seem constant and not usually for the better in
my opinion. I'm running iOS 17.2 on an iPhone 13 Mini. If I want to share
something on my device with someone who also uses a screen reader and want
Voiceover to come through an attached Bluetooth Tribit MaxSound Plus
Speaker, is there a way to do this? I suspect the answer might vary
depending on the speaker being used. What I'm currently experiencing is that
Voiceover is coming through the iPhone's built in speakers and audio from a
book playing in BARD Mobile or other media content such as music comes
through the attached Tribit speaker. Is there some sort of setting tweak I
can make that will get me where I want?

 

I welcome any suggestions or recommendations to resolve this and thanks in
advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly 

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Re: BE My AI Question Please.

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Hi Janet, As Richard stated, with focus on the described text, single finger swipe up or down on the screen to access copy in the context menu and double tap. You could then paste that text in an email to yourself or create a new note in the Notes app and paste it there which is the method I prefer. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 28, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:In the Be My Eyes screen where the text is written, flick up or down with one finger to copy and double tap. Now, if you have it as an attachment, you would have to paste it into a file, maybe a note, and send that, or just paste it into the body of an email. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:51 PM, janet gross  wrote:







 
 


From: janet gross

Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: BE My AI Question Please. 


 
Hi Everyone, 
 
Can someone please tell me if I use Be My AI to read text from my XR iPhone, how can I send that text to my email as an attachment?

If this is possible, I just don’t know. 
 
Any help  would be greatly appreciated. 
 
Janet 
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Re: StarplayrX Working Again

[Alan Lemly]

Working for me too. I'm running the so-called new and improved Sirius app. This 
is the first time I've tried the StarplayrX app so I never experienced those 
log in issues others posted about. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 15, 2023, at 5:29 PM, Amy ruell  wrote:
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> This is working again for me as well.
> Amy.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 15, 2023, at 6:05 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
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>> Hi Group,
>> 
>> For all of yesterday, I was getting the log in error for StarplayrX.  I 
>> tried it this afternoon and it is working again.
>> Can anyone else confirm this?
>> 
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Re: Sirius

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Guys, 

My sense is that the Sirius app is in a state of transition as is just about 
everything these days. I think you'll find that turning on screen recognition 
while in the app will produce different results from VoiceOver. With it turned 
off, the three tabs on the bottomline toolbar are Discover, Favorites or My 
favorite channels, and Recently played items. If you turn screen recognition on 
using your rotor, the Recently played items tab becomes Search when spoken by 
VoiceOver. 

All this is to say that you need to explore and play around with the screen 
recognition setting to see how it affects your results. 

Alan Lemly 
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> On Dec 8, 2023, at 9:49 AM, Richard Turner  
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> For me, search is actually on the Your Recently Played Items tab.
> It is in the upper left.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
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> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Corey 
> Cook
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sirius
> 
> Maybe I  missing something, but I don't have a search box under discover.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Rash
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 6:09 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Sirius
> 
> Go to the tabs on the bottom of the screen and double tap discover.  Then you 
> will find search at the top of the screen, double tap that to get to the edit 
> field.  Good luck.
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:05 AM, Steve Cook  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I just recently signed up for Sirius on their app. I can’t seem to locate a 
>> search field for searching. Is their a search feature on this app? If yes, 
>> how do locate it? Thanks in advance!
>> 
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Re: volume while using the phone

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Kay, Based on your comment, it sounds as if you're confused about how audio ducking works on the iPhone. With it on, the audio from the phone, music app, etc. Ducks or lowers when VoiceOver is speaking so that the VoiceOver is more easily heard. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 1, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:






If audio ducking was on, that would mean the voice 
would drop when other voices were speaking and I sure don't want that.  It 
is not ducking for sure.
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  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2023 3:04 
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  Subject: RE: volume while using the 
  phone
  
  
  Hi 
  Kay,
   
  Go 
  to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and Audio.  Be sure Audio Ducking 
  is set to On.  That should take care of it.
   
  Karen 
  P
   
  
  
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  [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay 
  MalmquistSent: Friday, December 1, 2023 1:16 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: 
  volume while using the phone
   
  
  Hi 
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  I have a strange 
  problem with the voice over volume while talking on the phone.  When 
  using the phone if I need to dial in numbers I can barely hear voiceover at 
  all.  Yes, I have made sure that the voiceover volume on the rotor is at 
  100 percent and it is still low.  the voices on the phone are much louder 
  than Voiceover.  This doesn't happen anywhere else but on the 
  phone.  Otherwise, the volumes are all fine.  Anything else I should 
  be looking at?  Thanks much for any ideas.
  
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Re: Double tap timeout setting was Re: backdating

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Alison, I guess we're dealing with differences between UK versus American English words. I think of backdating as relating to documents as opposed to rolling back to a previous software or app version. Sorry for my confusion. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 26, 2023, at 11:20 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:My original message with the subject line of Bacckdating related to my difficulty in double tapping since the latest upgrade of IOS and wondering if there were any reasons why I shouldn’t backdate. I learnt from this list that this would no longer be an option but Chris, I believe it was, came up with a solution to my problem.Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan LemlySent: Sunday, November 26, 2023 4:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Double tap timeout setting was Re: backdating I'm perplexed why what seems to be a majority of list members seem to have such a problem composing meaningful subject lines. I haven't followed this entire thread but the messages I've read seem to have nothing to do with backdating.  For those having issues with your double taps not executing since upgrading to iOS 17, go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and go to the bottom of the screen to double tap time-out. I believe the iOS 17 upgrade reset this time to .25 seconds which requires a pretty fast double tap to execute. Execute the increment button in this setting to make it bigger to a setting that works best for you.  And please be specific and accurate with your subject lines for those who manage their email by subjects or who actually use the list archives.  Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 25, 2023, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Thanks for the tip, I just increased it to what you said, now I have to see how that goes over the next couple of days, but if it fixes the issue then this would be great although I still think Apple Accessibility should get an email from at least 8 out of 10 Voiceover users holding them accountable for screwing this up.I find at times I have the same issue on my Apple Watch Ultra 2.it is definitely changed  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Chris ChaffinSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 7:54 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: backdating  This might be the setting that you are refering to, but I was experiencing the same thing, and I went to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and at the bottom of that screen you will find, Double Tap Time Out.  If you go into there and set it to 0.50 or more.  I did this, and it totally did away with the problem. Hope this helps. Chris On Nov 25, 2023, at 6:44 PM, CJ & AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> wrote:A friend said she’d been told that going into settings, Accessibility  and then voice and changing response from 1.10 to 1.04 helped, and I have tried this, and thought initially it had helped but after an afternoon of frustration again, I’m not sure it has.Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 6:17 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: backdating Yes, this is certainly a bit of an issue for me as well although it is not as bad as in the beginning and it’s almost gone in iOS 17.2 which as I said should be out maybe not next week, but the week after that.Anyways, downgrading is not possible any more so you’ll have to put up with it until it gets fixed, hopefully you wrote to Apple Accessibility and request in strong but nice words that this really needs to be fixed. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAYSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:15 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: backdating I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like Duo Lingo.  My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I am currently finding it very frustrating.Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: backdating The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do you have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as a single tap, I have very few other problems at this stage. Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading: Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No 

Double tap timeout setting was Re: backdating

[Alan Lemly]

I'm perplexed why what seems to be a majority of list members seem to have such a problem composing meaningful subject lines. I haven't followed this entire thread but the messages I've read seem to have nothing to do with backdating. For those having issues with your double taps not executing since upgrading to iOS 17, go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and go to the bottom of the screen to double tap time-out. I believe the iOS 17 upgrade reset this time to .25 seconds which requires a pretty fast double tap to execute. Execute the increment button in this setting to make it bigger to a setting that works best for you. And please be specific and accurate with your subject lines for those who manage their email by subjects or who actually use the list archives. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 25, 2023, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Thanks for the tip, I just increased it to what you said, now I have to see how that goes over the next couple of days, but if it fixes the issue then this would be great although I still think Apple Accessibility should get an email from
 at least 8 out of 10 Voiceover users holding them accountable for screwing this up.
I find at times I have the same issue on my Apple Watch Ultra 2.it is definitely changed

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: backdating


 


 


This might be the setting that you are refering to, but I was experiencing the same thing, and I went to Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, and at the bottom of that screen you will find, Double Tap Time Out.  If you go into there and
 set it to 0.50 or more.  I did this, and it totally did away with the problem.


 


Hope this helps.


 


Chris


 







On Nov 25, 2023, at 6:44 PM, CJ & AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> wrote:





A friend said she’d been told that going into settings, Accessibility  and then voice and changing response from 1.10 to 1.04 helped, and I have tried this, and thought initially it had helped but after an afternoon of frustration again,
 I’m not sure it has.
Alison
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating


 
Yes, this is certainly a bit of an issue for me as well although it is not as bad as in the beginning and it’s almost gone in iOS 17.2 which as I said should be out maybe not next week, but the week after that.
Anyways, downgrading is not possible any more so you’ll have to put up with it until it gets fixed, hopefully you wrote to Apple Accessibility and request in strong but nice words that this really needs to be fixed.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating


 
I am currently using 17.1 ad since upgrading the focus keeps jumping, so when I go to delete a message, I find myself on a different message. It is often unresponsive to my taps, some apps being more prone to this than others, like Duo
 Lingo. 
 My friend has upgraded and has none of these issues, which is strange, but I am currently finding it very frustrating.
Alison
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: backdating


 
The time to go back to iOS 16 has long passed, this is only possible for a short while after a major new version of iOS comes out, but Apple stops signing the older versions usually after a few weeks. Having said this, which iPhone do you
 have and what exactly are you not happy about with iOS 17? iOS 17.2 is probably being released in the next couple of weeks and it takes care of a few more issues and with the exception with the double tap sometimes registering as a single tap, I have very
 few other problems at this stage.
 
Here is an article from Mac Rumors regarding the downgrading:
 
Downgrading an iPhone From iOS 17 to iOS 16 is No Longer Possible
Wednesday October 4, 2023 9:17 pm PDT by 
Joe Rossignol
Following the release of iOS 17.0.3 earlier today, Apple has stopped signing iOS 16.6.1,
iOS 17, and iOS 17.0.1, preventing iPhone users from downgrading to any of those software versions. Apple continues to sign iOS 17.0.2 for now.
Notably, this means that it is no longer possible to downgrade an iPhone from iOS 17 to iOS 16. It is not possible to downgrade to iOS 16.7.
Apple routinely stops signing older iOS releases over time in order to prevent users from downgrading to previous software versions.
iOS 17.1 is expected to be released later this month.
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Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Margaret, 

I seem to recall folks posting after the release of iOS 17 that the double tap 
time-out setting was changed to lower the speed needed to execute a double tap. 
The effect of this would require you to double tap faster in order for it to 
register. 

Go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and double tap time-out witch will be 
near the bottom of the screen. Mine was currently set to .25 seconds and I 
executed the increment button to make it .3 seconds which I like better since I 
don't have to double tap quite as fast. Play around with that setting to see if 
it helps you. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Alan:
> 
> Thank you.  I got Hey Siri back.  I could swear that the 3 choices weren't 
> there when I looked earlier and I was looking for more than 1 item and I was 
> double tapping on Hey Siri.  The double tapping problem is still here and it 
> might have been the problem earlier.  It took about a half dozen tries for 
> the phone to recognize my double taps.  I got the phone 2 years ago yesterday 
> and, as far as I know, I'm double tapping the same as I always have and the 
> phone has just gone nuts.
> 
> Thanks ,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
>> On 11/23/2023 3:03 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> Hi Margaret,
>> Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices 
>> here are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off
>> I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier 
>> instructions you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so 
>> I expect I made a pig's breakfast of them.
>> I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you 
>> are having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try 
>> changing the hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want.
>> Good luck and happy Thanksgiving.
>> Alan Lemly .
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Afternoon:
>>> 
>>> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way 
>>> through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the 
>>> update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a 
>>> problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for and select 
>>> Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right now, when I 
>>> do not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri responds with 
>>> Hey Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new 
>>> follow-up feature I think I heard about.
>>> 
>>> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I 
>>> may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new 
>>> info might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double 
>>> tapping since the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing 
>>> first.  Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>>>> James,
>>>> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go 
>>>> to Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead 
>>>> of Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
>>>>> accidently triggered Ciri.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
>>>>> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
>>>>> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast 
>>>>> because she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
>>>>> version of IOS 17.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of 
>>>>> the worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 

Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Margaret,

Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices here 
are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off

I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier instructions 
you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so I expect I made 
a pig's breakfast of them. 

I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you are 
having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try changing the 
hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want. 

Good luck and happy Thanksgiving. 

Alan Lemly . 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon:
> 
> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way 
> through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the 
> update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a 
> problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for and select 
> Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right now, when I do 
> not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri responds with Hey 
> Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new 
> follow-up feature I think I heard about.
> 
> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I may 
> have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info 
> might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping 
> since the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  
> Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
>> On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> James,
>> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
>> Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of 
>> Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
>>> accidently triggered Ciri.
>>> 
>>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
>>> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
>>> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because 
>>> she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>>> 
>>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
>>> version of IOS 17.
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
>>> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> James B
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>> 
>>> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
>>> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and 
>>> quit, because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free 
>>> Siri and just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used 
>>> hey Siri except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>>>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus 
>>>> it cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>>>> Pretty pointless.
>>>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>>>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, 
>>>> then maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around 
>>>> at best even if it works.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
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Fwd: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

[Alan Lemly]

Title: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI
I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at least the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might be interested in the below announcement. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: Mike from Be My Eyes Date: November 15, 2023 at 10:59:11 AM CSTTo: Alan Lemly Subject: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My EyesReply-To: no-re...@bemyeyes.com

  




















	


		
		
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Re: Can I Copy An Answer from ChatGPT?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Evan, 

You can also single finger double tap and hold or single finger triple tap on 
the ChatGPT answer witch will open a context menu and you can single finger 
swipe right to copy followed by a single finger double tap to execute the copy 
of the answer. I find this to be faster than the three finger quadruple tap to 
copy the last thing spoken by VoiceOver. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, that worked. If I had learned that gesture, I forgot it.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 11/8/2023 6:32 PM, Thom Spittle wrote:
>> I remember correctly, the answer is given all in one block of text. So if 
>> you touch on that block of text, and it starts reading, do a three finger 
>> quadruple tap. Three fingers four times, and that will copy that content to 
>> the clipboard.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Guys,
>>> 
>>> I asked my ChatGPT app a question, and I was wanting to copy it and share 
>>> it with a few friends, but I can't figure out how to do it, or even whether 
>>> it can be done.
>>> 
>>> I hit Edit, and I got Select All. But then my only two options were to 
>>> either Activate (default) or Drag. No Copy.
>>> 
>>> Am I doing something wrong? Or is that just not possible with ChatGPT 
>>> answers?
>>> 
>>> Thanks much.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Update to SuperSense available.

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Malcolm, 

Thanks for this update notice. I find the folks at SuperSense to be long on 
words and short on results. With all the other options available, I encourage 
users to try apps such as Envision AI or Seeing AI as opposed to wasting time 
with SuperSense. As for those who wasted their money on SuperSense as did i, my 
bank balance shares your pain. 

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> On Nov 7, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
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> Here’s what they say about the update, don’t hold your breath, it’s nothing 
> to write home about.
> 
> Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
> to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
> announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Read History 
> Filters: Tailor your results in Read History and display only what you need 
> on the latest results section 2) Library: A new Library button is added to 
> Read History where you can access all recognition history categorized by read 
> modes in the new Library screen 3) Dark Theme: Switch to dark mode on all 
> Supersense screens by selecting Dark Theme under the settings menu 4) Reading 
> Settings: A new settings menu to customize reading and display options on the 
> reading screen 5) Quick Mode Selection: An optional setting to start 
> Supersense in mode selection menu instead of scanning screen. You can change 
> it under the Settings menu. More exciting news and features are on the way! 
> As always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best 
> solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

[Alan Lemly]

Richard, 

I know this isn't what you asked but I have my library set to not sync using 
iCloud on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 17.1 and I haven't experienced any of 
the Voice Dream Reader issues posted with any of the most recent versions. 

I would encourage all Voice Dream users to go into settings and add the most 
recent user guide to their library and invest the 20 plus minutes to read it. 
You might be surprised with all the capabilities of the more recent versions of 
Voice Dream and I expect you'll learn a good deal. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2023, at 9:55 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Jan and anyone else experience this bug, the developers want to know if you 
> have iCloud disabled?  They are trying very hard to resolve this bug this 
> morning.
> Let me know and I will pass it along.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jan 
> Stirbens
> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2023 9:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice Dream Reader
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am also having trouble with voice dream reader after it’s update.  I am 
> using an iPhone thirteen mini with version 16.7.2.
> When I try to open voice dream, I just get a blank screen.  According to the 
> app switcher, voice dream is open.  I closed it in the app switcher, and 
> rebooted my phone, but still no success.
> Any thoughts or suggestions is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Jan
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Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Alan Lemly]

Fine and dandy. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 2:25 PM, James Bentley  wrote:
> 
> How are you getting along with 17?
> 
> Thanks for your remarks.
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 2:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> James,
> 
> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
> Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
> and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:
>> 
>> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
>> accidently triggered Ciri.
>> 
>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
>> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
>> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because 
>> she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>> 
>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
>> version of IOS 17.
>> 
>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
>> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> James B  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>> 
>> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
>> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
>> because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
>> just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
>> except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
>>> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>>> Pretty pointless.
>>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, 
>>> then maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around 
>>> at best even if it works.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
>>> Schneider
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>> 
>>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
>>> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is 
>>> reading back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. 
>>> It is like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started 
>>> recently. He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about 
>>> a day, but then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how 
>>> to solve this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Alan Lemly]

James, 

For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:
> 
> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
> accidently triggered Ciri.
> 
> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed. 
>  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she 
> thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
> 
> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
> of IOS 17.
> 
> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
> because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
> just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
> except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
>> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>> Pretty pointless.
>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
>> maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
>> even if it works.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
>> Schneider
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>> 
>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
>> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading 
>> back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is 
>> like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. 
>> He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but 
>> then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve 
>> this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Side button in App Store

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Bill, 

Did you set up face ID on your new 15 Pro? If yes, all you should need to do 
when getting that prompt is to press the right side power button twice. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Oct 21, 2023, at 12:28 PM, William Outman  wrote:
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> Hello. 
> I have gone from an 8 Plus to a 15 Pro. I am asked in places like the App 
> Store to confirm with the side button and then in that case double click to 
> install.  I seem unable to do this. 
> Am I not doing that command correctly or is there something I need to set up. 
>  I was accustomed to using Touch ID with the home button.  
> Bill Outman 
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Re: Setting up my 15 pro.

[Alan Lemly]

Also, the couple of times I've done this, you can keep swiping to get to a 
manual option for doing a phone to phone transfer and you'll be sent a code on 
one phone to input into the other phone. I always prefer doing this transfer 
manually. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> You have to have the camera of one facing the screen of the other one. It 
> has been two years since I did this, so I'm not sure if the new phone camera 
> needs to see the screen of the old one or the other way around. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA 
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I'm trying to set up my new phone. I'm at the point where it says to bring 
>> the phones close together. They are... but my new phone isn't seeing the old 
>> one. Bluetooth is on. Any suggestions?
>> Thanks.
>> Jen.
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Re: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 15 Series

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard, You are correct that the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus do not have titanium frames. Only the 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max have those. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 12, 2023, at 11:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which
 you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a nice hand warmer
藍
 
-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 15 Series
 
Hello All,
 
Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
 
It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
 
Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy
 GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
 
Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same level of screen brightness.
 
Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
 
Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
 
I hope you are all doing well.
 
Mark
 
 
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RE: How to direct Be My AI Voiceover speaking of image analysis to a Bluetooth speaker?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your and Feliciano’s replies. I think the results must be dependent 
on the particular Bluetooth speaker being connected. I have a Tribit MaxSound 
Plus Speaker and a Bose Soundlink Mini 2 speaker and I can not get either of 
them to play Voiceover. Instead, Voiceover always comes out of my iPhone 13 
Mini’s native speakers regardless of the settings under Bluetooth device more 
info.

 

Luckily, I put on my thinking cap and after confirming that the Tribit had a 
3.5mm headphone jack, I connected an audio patch cable to the Tribit, connected 
a 3.5mm to lightning adapter to the other end of the patch cable, and plugged 
it into my iPhone’s lightning port and this forced everything to come through 
the Bluetooth speaker. At least I have a workaround for the times I want 
everything to come through my Bluetooth speaker.

 

Alan 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to direct Be My AI Voiceover speaking of image analysis to a 
Bluetooth speaker?

 

Alan,

I just connected my old SoundBrick Speaker over Bluetooth and launched Be My 
Eyes and everything came through the speaker just fine.

 

You may need to go into the Bluetooth settings and bring up the more info on 
your speaker and make sure the device type is set as a speaker, I don't know.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: How to direct Be My AI Voiceover speaking of image analysis to a 
Bluetooth speaker?

 

Alan, Are you launching Be My Eyes while connected to the speaker? I just 
connected my Airpods Max headphones, launched Be My Eyes, and the description 
came through the headphones just fine. I'll try it with a bluetooth speaker 
later. 

 

Richard, USA 

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(Sent from my iPhone)

 

On Sep 30, 2023, at 8:19 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi List,

 

I’m getting the Be My AI image results just fine on my iPhone 13 Mini running 
iOS 16.7. What I’m unable to do is to get Voiceover reading the results of that 
analysis out of an attached Bluetooth speaker so I can play it for someone hard 
of hearing. I attempted copying the results to the Notes app and can’t figure 
out how to get Voiceover to come through the attached speaker there either.

 

I would welcome any suggestions. It seems as if I need to add some sort of 
audio output source to my rotor but I’m unaware that such a thing exists.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Alan Lemly

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How to direct Be My AI Voiceover speaking of image analysis to a Bluetooth speaker?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm getting the Be My AI image results just fine on my iPhone 13 Mini
running iOS 16.7. What I'm unable to do is to get Voiceover reading the
results of that analysis out of an attached Bluetooth speaker so I can play
it for someone hard of hearing. I attempted copying the results to the Notes
app and can't figure out how to get Voiceover to come through the attached
speaker there either.

 

I would welcome any suggestions. It seems as if I need to add some sort of
audio output source to my rotor but I'm unaware that such a thing exists.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

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Re: Another example of Be My AI

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, Rolling on the floor laughing with you. I'd bye your book. I haven't read Mad Honey by Jodi Picoult but I've read several of her other books. Right now, I'm still recovering from reading Holly, Stephen King's latest. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 25, 2023, at 3:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hi Alan,
 
Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my intelligent comments
藍
If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.
If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".
 


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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI


 

Sieghard, 


 


Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
 then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
 like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
 picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the description:
 
The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a
 wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that appears to be ready for planting. 
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains partially obscured
 by clouds. The sky above is overcast.
 
One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now we have
 more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description
 didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood
 still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is an approx.
 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want
 them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our driveway in front of the house
 and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 babies in toe walked by around 3

Re: Another example of Be My AI

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard, Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than the audiobook I'm currently reading. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the picture,
 then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".
The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff
 like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one raised bed, but it's off the
 picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, here is the description:
 
The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a
 wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 
In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that appears to be ready for planting. 
In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains partially obscured
 by clouds. The sky above is overcast.
 
One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now we have
 more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".
The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description
 didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.
The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood
 still looks fairly fresh.
The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is an approx.
 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre field and green area around that.
Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want
 them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our driveway in front of the house
 and a couple days earlier a Mama Bear with 3 babies in toe walked by around 3 during the night.
Anyways, the rest of the description is also correct, around that field in the back ar tall poppler trees which are turning yellow now and you can see some houses a couple of hundred metres away and then looking further across the valley
 Hudson Bay Mountain which is a little over 8000 feet tall rises up and by now it's got a bit of fresh snow on the top, but Be My AI didn't pick that up because it may very well be obscured by the clouds today. There is probably also some smoke from a nearby
 forest fire because it definitely smells smoky out today.
 






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Re: Just a few upgrade questions, and other comments

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Terri, 

I hesitate to offer advice on these sort of questions since they are 
subjectively and economically dependent. 

I understand your battery issue and don't disagree that something needs to be 
done. But I'm a huge fan of my iPhone 13 Mini and the plain fact is that 
getting a Mini in the future will be all but impossible unless you want a used 
device. I would encourage you to get a feel for the size of the phones you're 
considering since I expect they will feel substantially different from your 12 
Mini. And you should know that a 15 Plus is the same physical size as the 15 
Pro Max. 

I'm going to disagree with Fred that you should consider one of the SE models 
whether the second or third generation. I don't think someone who has gotten 
used to a device without a home button should return to one with one. 

I hope you find something you like and get it at a very good price. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Sep 24, 2023, at 12:23 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> First of all, I have really appreciated reading the thoughts, and opinions on 
> the new phones. As well as peoples experiences with them, in the stores. I 
> always find this sort of stuff helpful.
> 
> 
> I am considering upgrading my phone. At first, I wasn't going to do it. I 
> love my 12 mini. It's smaller, and pretty easy for me to hold. It still works 
> quite well, and I really don't have any issues with it.
> 
> 
> However, I get my phone service with T-Mobile. If I were to upgrade now, it 
> would be better for me, then if I were to wait another year or so. Right now, 
> I can trade in this phone, and it will help go toward the cost of my next 
> phone. I really don't want to have to trade in this phone. But this is the 
> way I have to go about these sorts of things, if I ever want to upgrade.
> 
> 
> My battery in my phone is degrading. I actually have a service message on it, 
> that states that I need to replace the battery. So I could do that, and use 
> this phone for longer. But a part of me thinks that it is just better to go 
> ahead and do the upgrade instead.
> 
> 
> I would be interested to hear what people think about this. I know some of 
> this will be opinion. That is fine by me.
> 
> However, some of you on this list know way much more about these sorts of 
> things than I do. That is something I have really come to appreciate over the 
> years. It is a big part as to why I remain a part of this list.
> 
> 
> I plan to go to my local store within the next week, or so. I want to hold 
> the 15 plus, and the 15 pro. I want to explore them, and see which one I 
> might be most comfortable with.
> 
> 
> I was also considering checking out the 14 pro. Just so that I would know all 
> of my options. I am not interested in the pro, max phones. That would just be 
> too large of a device for me.
> 
> 
> I really like the idea of having a phone that uses USB C charging.
> 
> However, what sorts of charging blocks might I need?
> 
> 
> I am not sure if I have what I need, to support that type of charging. I know 
> I at least have one. I usually try to buy dual charging blocks, because I 
> have so many devices, that this just works better for me. Or, I have friends 
> that come over, who need to charge their stuff.
> 
> 
> I am really looking forward to possibly getting a pro, just for the camera. I 
> never in my life thought that i would want a phone, for it's camera.
> 
> 
> However, the new feature with Be My Eyes, has been a game changer for me. I 
> use it quite regularly. At least, once a day. Usually a lot more than that 
> though. I am still not always the best at taking a picture. I hope that this 
> might improve in time. I just don't always understand how, or where to aim 
> the camera.
> 
> 
> Are the cameras really all that different from the 12 Mini I have now, to the 
> 14 pro, or the 15 pro?
> 
> 
> I really want to make the best choice possible for myself. But of course, I 
> won't know really what to expect, until I go to the store.
> 
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since upgrading

[Alan Lemly]

My below comments probably aren't worth much but I'll make them anyway. 

I've had some sort of audio issue with VoiceOver whether it is my selected 
voice not sounding the same as before the upgrade or something else for the 
last two or three major iOS upgrades. It normally takes a day or two after the 
upgrade before my device is speaking properly again. 

I have no clue whether this has anything to do with the problem Mary is 
experiencing or not. 

I would recommend that she change her default VoiceOver voice to something like 
Samantha not enhanced and play around with it for a bit to see if her results 
are any different after doing so. I'm pretty sure I've had to redownload TTS 
voices following a major iOS upgrade or two in the past to get things speaking 
right again. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I didn't really think that was what was happening, but thought I'd throw it 
> out there.
> I gather this is also unpredictable so having Apple Accessibility sharing 
> your screen to see it happen is not practicle...
> 
> Very strange.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover voice keeps switching between Alex and Samantha since 
> upgrading
> 
> I do have languages in the rotor, but that’s not what this is about. The 
> language is not switching. It’s staying on the default which should be Alex. 
> I have US English default for Alex. I also have Allison as a secondary US 
> English voice, and of course I have a Russian voice. I have never seen 
> switching between voices when I’m just flicking around a message list or 
> among icons on the screen until this upgrade. I am really quite sure it has 
> nothing to do with the rotor accidentally moving. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you have languages in the rotor? The only time I have voices changing 
>> suddenly is when the rotor ends up on languages and I accidently flick up or 
>> down and find the voice different.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
>> Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yesterday, I upgraded my iPad mini six to iOS 17. So far so good, except 
>>> that for whatever reason, my default language voice which was sent to Alex, 
>>> sometimes arbitrarily switches to Samantha. Not that I’m switching 
>>> anything. Just navigating around the screen for some reason, sometimes 
>>> language comes out using Samantha not Alex. I can’t determine a pattern. 
>>> Has anyone experienced this?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

[Alan Lemly]

Paula, I'm sorry if a factory reset is the only thing to get your iPhone talking again. Did you ever call Apple Accessibility and ask them to connect to your device to help with this issue. One time they helped me when VoiceOver volume got set to 0 when I was switching between the iPhone's external speaker and a connected Bluetooth speaker. This is one reason why I recommend that everyone keep a pair of wired Apple Earpods to connect when there are problems with VoiceOver or other audio issues. You've stated that you've done everything suggested in this thread to no avail so I hope a factory reset makes things right. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 21, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Paula Pinder  wrote:




Hi Richard. Thanks for your reply.


I have tried what you suggested. I think the only thing left to do is factory reset the phone.


Best wishes


Paula


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:32:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE
 

Skipping the Android reference, if the VoiceOver sounds are playing, either speech is muted which can be unmuted with a three finger double tap; or the volume got turned down too low. To check the volume, Flick up with two fingers which will
 start reading at the top of the screen, and immediately start tapping the volume up button. If that is the problem, the voice will slowly become audible. 



Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:








 

First this isn’t an android list. 
  Second I would just switch back to iOS. 
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting Google accessibility but if you have the experience Jonathan Mosen and others who called his show have had good luck.
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Paula Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

 

Hi All

 


I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone?
 Does anyone have any suggestions? 


Thanks a lot.


 


Best wishes


 


Paula


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Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

[Alan Lemly]

Paula, I've not yet upgraded to iOS 17 so this is just me thinking out loud. My experience with most major iOS updates since getting my first iPhone over 10 years ago is that audio issues abound for a day or two after the upgrade. Whether these issues relate to my TTS VoiceOver voice not speaking the same or some other audio issue such as pronunciation snafus, etc, I can't say. If you've tried the various other suggestions that have been made, I'd suggest asking Siri to set volume to 100 and see what happens. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 20, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Paula Pinder  wrote:Hi AllThanks for your replies. I've tried everything suggested and still no joy even after trying a reset.Best wishesPaulaOn Wed, 20 Sept 2023, 21:18 Feliciano Godoy, <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:




Is someone able to help you manually turn off voiceover and re-enable it? I would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone settings,. so if you go to settings, general Transfer or Reset iPhone then choose reset.
*** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire phone.
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On Sep 20, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Paula Pinder <pinder.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi All


I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? Does anyone
 have any suggestions? 
Thanks a lot.


Best wishes


Paula


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Re: Traveling and using The Wallet App

[Alan Lemly]

I typically purchase my airline tickets using a browser and my desktop computer. I have apps for the airlines I purchase tickets from on my iPhone 13 Mini. I'll receive emails which include my itinerary as well as the 24 hour notification when it is time to fetch my boarding pass. I will go to the airline app to add those boarding passes to my wallet. I don't expect you will be able to add a pdf file of your ticket or boarding pass to your wallet. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 19, 2023, at 1:15 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:







How should I initiate the whole process 24 hours prior to departure? I purchased my ticket from a travel agent and he sent me a PDF file with all the info. Can I use Wallet by using info in this pdf file?
Thanks!
 


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As I explained, you only get a boarding pass when you check into your flight and this can only be done within 24 hours of when the flight departs.
If your flight leaves on February 29, 2024 and let's assume it leaves at 3 PM, then you can check in to your flight and obtain your boarding pass on February 28 at 3 PM or later. Once you wait until that time and check in, your boarding
 pass will be displayed at the very end of the check-in process and at that time there should be a button which allows you to add it to the wallet.
 
 


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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:16 AM
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I purchased my ticket from a travel agent for the flight on 29 Feb, 2024; can I add my boarding pass to the wallet?
If yes, how can it be done, please?
Thanks!
 


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Every app is different, but typically you only get the option to add a boarding pass to the wallet at the time you check in for your flight and that can only be done within 24 hours of your flight.
The wallet app is for things like credit/debit cards you set up for Apple Pay, loyalty cards and, in the case of travel, boarding passes etc.
I don't think you can have your actual itinerary in the wallet app, this should be easily available in the Expedia app.
I use electronic boarding passes with Air Canada all the time, but as I said, once you get the email that you can now check in for your flight, you can then add the boarding pass at the end of the check-in process and of course it is best
 if you check in on your iPhone and not on a computer; not sure if you can add boarding passes to the wallet if you are not using your iPhone to check in.
 


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Subject: Traveling and using The Wallet App


 
Good morning everyone,
 
I’m going to ask a few questions I hope aren’t dumb. Regarding this particular topic, I am just learning, and after watching some videos and reading about it, I thought I might try taking advantage.
I understand that people are able to save things such as flight itineraries, IDs, and other things in the Wallet app. Has anyone done it, and how easy is that to do?
I will be taking a trip in a couple weeks. I purchased my tickets through Expedia and thought I could save that information to my wallet app so that I can quickly access everything when it’s time to go or when I need to check in. In looking
 at options within the Expedia app, there aren’t any. In looking at what I can add to the wallet itself, there aren’t options there either.
Am I going about this whole process the wrong way? Should I maybe not bother with this app and stick with other apps or methods?
I find it so cool that many people are just showing their tickets from their phones or that they are keeping track of their trip via their phones and figured it would be a good thing for me as well.
Thoughts?
Jim
 
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Re: Be My Eyes AI

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Star Gazer, 

Someone posted an email address earlier in the thread where you can request 
access. I already had the Be my eyes app on my iPhone and there was a button on 
its home screen to execute for those wishing to get into the Be my AI program. 
It only took a few days and I received an email with my invitation. Of course, 
I already had a Be my eyes account and the app before doing this. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Sep 14, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
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> Where do I get this? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> I am super amazed at how well it works ..  I've used it for a ton of things 
> .. went back through a bunch of photos on my phone .. and was amazed at how 
> well it did.  They have done a great job on this!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
> Doc Wright
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> I have used it to go through groceries that just came in;.
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> 
> Here is an example of the Be My Eyes AI description of a t-shirt that I 
> have. I'll be using this app for clothing from now on.
> 
> T-shirt was just laying across my lap. So I didn't get a full view.
> The picture shows a turquoise fabric, possibly a piece of clothing, with a 
> colorful design on it. The design includes a yellow surfboard with the words 
> "Hard Dock CAFE" written in red. The surfboard is adorned with flowers in 
> various colors such as pink, red, purple, and yellow. There is also a white 
> rope-like design that circles around the surfboard. Below the surfboard, 
> there are words that are partially visible, which seem to say "Jones Valley 
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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, Both 15 Pro models have the action button. And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would be more economical, just less green. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action button?
 


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There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.


2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.


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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:




Sieghard et al,

 


After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I
 surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.

 


I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits
 for justifying such a purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
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On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 


And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came
 home tonight there was not a single one!


 

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Re: today's Apple Event

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Star Gazer, If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those to USB C. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:    That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t want to Bluetooth?  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt WhiteSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Ryan,  I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories.  Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175 On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@gmail.com> wrote:Sieghard et al, After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that. I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert EinsteinOn Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web vis

Re: today's Apple Event

[Alan Lemly]

To get USB 3 speeds, I believe a different, more expensive cable is required. But I don't use a Mac, am unfamiliar with the speed differences between USB 2 and 3, so am not in a position to comment further. A standard USB C cable can certainly be used with the iPhone 15 models since they have the standard sized USB C port, but another cable is needed with the Pro models to get maximum transfer speed. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Matt White  wrote:It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Please don't hijack threads by replying to a post discussing Apple's iPhone event yesterday and changing the subject to how to copy and paste a link. This really messes up the thread for those of us who manage our email by thread. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:59 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi. I need to copy a link from an email and paste it into a podcast app to regain my subscription to a podcast. I did it once but have forgotten how to do that. How do I copy a link form an email and paste it into a podcast app (overcast)?Thanks. John Riehl 



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Re: today's Apple Event

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Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Re: today's Apple Event

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Hi Sieghard, I have to agree with Bill that it seemed obvious that most of the excitement at least to the sighted world is all about the camera enhancements and features. It almost sounds as if Apple's ultimate goal is to design a phone so that users can take amazing photos whether they are intelligent enough to understand anything about photography or heaven forbid even capable of using good language skills. And I expect the lack of excitement is indicative of a product which is reaching maturity as is the iPhone. My favorite part of the event was the produced segment about Apple's environmental concerns and efforts featuring Octavia Spencer as Mother Nature. But then, that was more of a mini movie than a product announcement. I do appreciate the efforts Apple is making to be green and carbon neutral but I note that little has been said about all the cables and wired devices with lightning connectors that won't work with the new phones and their USB C ports. But that change wasn't a decision Apple made unilaterally or even voluntarily. I will note that the Apple Store does now offer a new adapter with lightning female and USB C male for those needing to use their wired lightning Earpods and other wired devices. I'll also note that this adapter costs $29 which is a big increase from the 3.5mm to lightning adapter introduced a few years back when they got rid of the headphone jack. That adapter was $9.95 as I recall. I will be in no hurry to move from my iPhone 13 Mini to one of the iPhones 15 or later. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







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Re: How do I transffer an app from the app library back to my home screen?

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Hi Sandy, Let's say you have an app named Sandy that you want on a home screen instead of just in your App library. Find the app in your library and place focus on it. Do a single finger swipe down until you hear edit mode and single finger double tap on the screen to execute edit mode. Single finger swipe down until you hear drag Sandy and single finger double tap the screen to execute the drag. You should be placed on the first available home screen containing space to hold your app. Single finger swipe down and you'll hear options saying things like drop Sandy before the app with focus, drop Sandy after the app with focus, or combine Sandy in a folder with the app with focus. When the one you want is announced, single finger double tap the screen to execute it. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 8, 2023, at 1:00 PM, Sandra Finley  wrote:I can find the app  and  activate edit  Mode. But as  soon as I swipe right to exit the app library, VO says, “finished editing.) Sandy Finley 



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Re: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

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Hi Feliciano, I'm glad you got screen recognition active in Amazon Music and are now experiencing what I was no doubt poorly communicating. I agree that the Amazon Music app needs accessibility improvements and thank you for writing them with your comments. I'm finding that whenever I encounter an app that seems to have controls or buttons that VoiceOver isn't speaking, that going to the rotor and turning screen recognition on for that app often gives me much better results. However, I always turn screen recognition off before exiting that app. I prefer leaving screen recognition turned off by default. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2023, at 8:23 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:







Alan,
I stand corrected. I reviewed my settings and although screen recognition was enabled for the rotor, it looks like I had forgotten to enable it via voiceover settings.
 
Enabling screen recognition did help, but I still had to label some buttons. Time will tell to see if it does make a difference overall.
 
I still believe Amazon music should be accessible out the gate like it was prior to this recent update. The AT tools are great, but clearly not as effective.
 
Thanks,
 
Feliciano 
 
 


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Feliciano, 


 


I'm not trying to be contentious here but I disagree that turning screen recognition on in the Amazon Music app has no impact. It makes a difference in what VoiceOver speaks on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.6. Perhaps you have your settings
 different or don't know how to turn screen recognition on in order to use it. 


 


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On Aug 23, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:




 
Allan,
Screen recognition doesn’t work on Amazon music app for iPhone. Labeling buttons works to an extent. I have tried various alternatives with no luck. Amazon is huge, they just need people to make noise if they want something to be done about
 it.
 
Spotify has figured it out, so it’s not rocket science.
 
I don’t include what I sent amazon because as you noted, people have different experiences that they need to report should they have a problem.
Feliciano 


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Feliciano, 


 


Ok, but you might want to include details such as a copy of what you sent to Amazon Support when asking others to report an accessibility issue. 


 


I do have an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription and I'm not experiencing the accessibility issues you described even on the now playing screen. I've found that turning screen recognition on within the Amazon Music app makes many of its
 screens more accessible. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

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On Aug 23, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:




 
Hi,
I didn’t explain here as I have already explained to amazon. I am having issues with unlabled buttons on both iPhone and Windows apps. On iPhone, I am also having abnormal behavior when swiping on occasion which triggers the app to go to
 the next track. If you play a track, go to the now playing screen and it’s a mess. Not sure if you’re an amazon music unlimited user as unlimited users have different UI on iPhone.
 
Feliciano 
 


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Feliciano, 


 


Your post is a little short on details regarding what accessibility issues you're experiencing with the latest Amazon Music app. The app seems to be working fine for me. What exactly is the problem you're having? 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

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On Aug 23, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:




 
Hi all, 
anyone else impacted by the latest update of Amazon music for iPhone? If so, please join me and  report this bug to amazon music department. The easiest way to contact them is to contact amazon music via twitter (X) or calling Amazon and
 getting transferred to  the amazon music department.
 
I hope we can make some noise about this as I have been trying to have them make amazon music app for windows more accessible yet they seem to have screen reader accessibility  as an afterthought.
 
Thanks,
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Feliciano, I'm not trying to be contentious here but I disagree that turning screen recognition on in the Amazon Music app has no impact. It makes a difference in what VoiceOver speaks on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.6. Perhaps you have your settings different or don't know how to turn screen recognition on in order to use it. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:







Allan,
Screen recognition doesn’t work on Amazon music app for iPhone. Labeling buttons works to an extent. I have tried various alternatives with no luck. Amazon is huge, they just need people to make noise if they want something to be done about
 it.
 
Spotify has figured it out, so it’s not rocket science.
 
I don’t include what I sent amazon because as you noted, people have different experiences that they need to report should they have a problem.

Feliciano 


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Feliciano, 


 


Ok, but you might want to include details such as a copy of what you sent to Amazon Support when asking others to report an accessibility issue. 


 


I do have an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription and I'm not experiencing the accessibility issues you described even on the now playing screen. I've found that turning screen recognition on within the Amazon Music app makes many of its
 screens more accessible. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






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Hi,
I didn’t explain here as I have already explained to amazon. I am having issues with unlabled buttons on both iPhone and Windows apps. On iPhone, I am also having abnormal behavior when swiping on occasion which triggers the app to go to
 the next track. If you play a track, go to the now playing screen and it’s a mess. Not sure if you’re an amazon music unlimited user as unlimited users have different UI on iPhone.
 
Feliciano 
 


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Feliciano, 


 


Your post is a little short on details regarding what accessibility issues you're experiencing with the latest Amazon Music app. The app seems to be working fine for me. What exactly is the problem you're having? 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

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Hi all, 
anyone else impacted by the latest update of Amazon music for iPhone? If so, please join me and  report this bug to amazon music department. The easiest way to contact them is to contact amazon music via twitter (X) or calling Amazon and
 getting transferred to  the amazon music department.
 
I hope we can make some noise about this as I have been trying to have them make amazon music app for windows more accessible yet they seem to have screen reader accessibility  as an afterthought.
 
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Re: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

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Feliciano, Ok, but you might want to include details such as a copy of what you sent to Amazon Support when asking others to report an accessibility issue. I do have an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription and I'm not experiencing the accessibility issues you described even on the now playing screen. I've found that turning screen recognition on within the Amazon Music app makes many of its screens more accessible. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 23, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:







Hi,
I didn’t explain here as I have already explained to amazon. I am having issues with unlabled buttons on both iPhone and Windows apps. On iPhone, I am also having abnormal behavior when swiping on occasion which triggers the app to go to
 the next track. If you play a track, go to the now playing screen and it’s a mess. Not sure if you’re an amazon music unlimited user as unlimited users have different UI on iPhone.
 
Feliciano 
 


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Feliciano, 


 


Your post is a little short on details regarding what accessibility issues you're experiencing with the latest Amazon Music app. The app seems to be working fine for me. What exactly is the problem you're having? 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 23, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:




 
Hi all, 
anyone else impacted by the latest update of Amazon music for iPhone? If so, please join me and  report this bug to amazon music department. The easiest way to contact them is to contact amazon music via twitter (X) or calling Amazon and
 getting transferred to  the amazon music department.
 
I hope we can make some noise about this as I have been trying to have them make amazon music app for windows more accessible yet they seem to have screen reader accessibility  as an afterthought.
 
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Re: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

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Hi all, 
anyone else impacted by the latest update of Amazon music for iPhone? If so, please join me and  report this bug to amazon music department. The easiest way to contact them is to contact amazon music via twitter (X) or calling Amazon and
 getting transferred to  the amazon music department.
 
I hope we can make some noise about this as I have been trying to have them make amazon music app for windows more accessible yet they seem to have screen reader accessibility  as an afterthought.
 
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Re: A Proglem Unique to Blind People

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, I don't but that is an excellent idea. I need to find a LazyBoysAreUs website and see if they have an inflatable option. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Hi Alan, how do you bring the easy chair along, do you have an inflatable model
藍
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Proglem Unique to Blind People


 

Hi Sandy, 


 


I expect the majority of problems using Face ID in our community have to do with incorrect distance between phone and face. 


 


I find that Face ID works most consistently with this distance: 


 


I sit in an easy chair such as a recliner. With the bottom of my phone lined up with my belly button and the screen pointed at my face, this seems to be an excellent distance for Face ID to work on apps where it is activated such as financial
 apps. I assume that would also be a good distance when setting it up. 


 


I encourage you to prevail with Face ID because when working properly, it is much more convenient than typing in a passcode or in Touch ID. 


 


Good luck. 


 


Alan Lemly 

 

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I hate to admit this, but if I can’t ask fellow blind folks, then what is the point of a list like this? I have never mastered the use of facial recognition. I was able to follow the directions given to set up face ID fine. The problem
 I continue to have  is how to hold my phone up to my face  so that my fade is recognized. Several months ato I just stopped trying and have been using my password  instead, but I am  now determined to figure this out.  How did some of you  learn how to do
 this?
 
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Re: A Proglem Unique to Blind People

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Hi Sandy, I expect the majority of problems using Face ID in our community have to do with incorrect distance between phone and face. I find that Face ID works most consistently with this distance: I sit in an easy chair such as a recliner. With the bottom of my phone lined up with my belly button and the screen pointed at my face, this seems to be an excellent distance for Face ID to work on apps where it is activated such as financial apps. I assume that would also be a good distance when setting it up. I encourage you to prevail with Face ID because when working properly, it is much more convenient than typing in a passcode or in Touch ID. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2023, at 6:01 AM, Sandra Finley  wrote:I hate to admit this, but if I can’t ask fellow blind folks, then what is the point of a list like this? I have never mastered the use of facial recognition. I was able to follow the directions given to set up face ID fine. The problem I continue to have  is how to hold my phone up to my face  so that my fade is recognized. Several months ato I just stopped trying and have been using my password  instead, but I am  now determined to figure this out.  How did some of you  learn how to do this? Sandy  Finley 



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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark, 

I don't know if you are dictating or simply misspelling but it is Morse code 
not Morris code. Samuel Morse was one of its developers and its namesake. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Jul 12, 2023, at 11:13 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Of course, you are correct, my friend.
> 
> Now that I think about it, I think my biggest fear about becoming a ham was 
> having to learn Morris code.  In all of the television shows and movies, etc. 
> I've seen, Morris seems so complicated and mysterious.  
> 
> As a very kind list member informed me, off-list, earlier today, one does not 
> need to learn Morris, any longer in order to be a ham.
> 
> Still, I think I'd like to try my hand at learning Morris code.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> And if you fail then you try again, I am sure failing this test will not mean 
>  you can't try again. 
> Life is too short to be afaraid of failure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You know, there are not a great many things on my bucket list but one of the 
> items is becoming a ham.
> 
> I have wanted to become a ham for over 30 years but have not done so, to be 
> honest, because of my fear of failing the licensing tests.
> 
> Now I don't know much about it but back in the 80s I had a couple of friends 
> who wanted to get their licenses but failed to do so.
> 
> I don't want to go off topic, on this, but if anyone of you hams would like 
> to send me the steps on how to go about getting a license and an blind and/or 
> low vision accessible way to go about it, send me a reply, off-list, as I 
> would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 11:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
> suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
> talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
> been able to use an app called echolink. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
> waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.
> 
> As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
> airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.
> 
> I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie Talkie 
> app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.
> 
> It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
> people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
> when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, coupled 
> with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, at least, 
> it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my ear and I 
> felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.
> 
> Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
> Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was not 
> a good one.
> 
> Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
> this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.
> 
> She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
> reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
> know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.
> 
> So, the question:
> 
> Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
> iPhone?  
> 
> When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
> one is best for VoiceOver users.
> 
> Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app on 
> the watch but, of course, works on the phone.
> 
> I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
>

Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

[Alan Lemly]

I have to agree with Richard. Even if you find a walkie talkie app that works well with VoiceOver, trying to use such an app with an Apple watch in an airport environment with all its ambient noise sounds like an exercise in futility. In such a situation, I would call the person on my iPhone and make sure my wired Earpods are securely connected before doing so. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:54 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:For me, I would just call the person. But a quick lookin the app store, HeyTell is still there and another free one called Zello WalkieTalkie as well which I think has higher ratings. Then there are a few with in-app purchases. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 11, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:Hi mark,This is an old app, but is HeyTel still in existence? That would work I think. You double tap and hold on the screen, say your message, then let go. I think that you can only use it for 30 or 1 minute messages, but sounds like a good one for what you want. Others may also let you know of others.Jenn
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On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:Hello Everyone,Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airportwaiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore theairport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the WalkieTalkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so manypeople crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watchwhen she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people,coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me,at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against myear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience wasnot a good one.Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home,this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the samereason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so Iknow that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.So, the question:Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work oniPhone?  When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of whichone is best for VoiceOver users.Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie appon the watch but, of course, works on the phone.I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie appfeature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario,between only 2 people.Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in theairport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.All replies greatly appreciated.Mark-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000801d9b3b9%2432a8b860%2497fa2920%24%40ucla.edu.



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Re: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features

[Alan Lemly]

Title: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features
I would take anything from the marketing wordsmiths at Super Sense with a shaker of salt. They seem to be long on words and short on feature delivery. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 6, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Ince they haven't done all they promised from two years ago, I would take all this with a very large grain of salt.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: FW: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features   From: Supersense Team <superse...@mediate.tech> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 4:01 PMTo: dennisl1...@gmail.comSubject: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features View online version -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002701d9b045%2448c125f0%24da4371d0%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Alan Lemly]

Ivan, 

I agree with Dulce. I suggest you spend more time with your app and on brushing 
up on your people skills which seem exceedingly lacking particularly where list 
posting is concerned. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Ivan,
> 
> 
> I have known Richard Turner for many years; he is a person of the highest 
> integrity.  His advice has been well reasoned and exemplary, so please 
> refrain from attacking him; his experience is invaluable to many of us.
> 
> Dulce
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ivan Icin 
> Date: Wednesday, July 05, 2023 03:12 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing
> 
> As you haven't dismissed anything that I've said I can tell only that it is 
> even worse if you are not getting any money and you are doing that.
> And just for the record you are the man that at the start told that 
> 60$/year will probably go lower over the time and now you are happy that it 
> isn't 100$/year for everyone.
> If you have any suggestions on how to improve my app and help people here I 
> am open to that and I'll try to implement anything that can help people 
> here (clearly some bigger request may take quite a time). Otherwise we have 
> finished, I don't see any points in discussing this further.
>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 11:53:33 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:
>> I do not get one penny from any apps.  I recommend Voice Dream Reader 
>> because it is the best at this moment and has been for a long time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I mention other apps and point out that each person has to decide which 
>> app meets their needs.  I always have.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> 
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>> it."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Ivan 
>> Icin
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 5, 2023 2:35 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I must say I didn't expect that you will write something as this. Wow.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So your only argument is that I have made a spin that Voice Dream Reader 
>> sells for 100$/year, while the reality is that they are selling only 
>> sometimes at 100$ and mostly and 80$. Well that was a spin, but at the end 
>> of the day it is not my fault that at the moment you need to write a book 
>> to describe exact sales policy of Voice Dream Reader and I picked the price 
>> that I prefer to say. Maybe you can ask your friend Winston on why he sold 
>> Voice Dream to a company that is milking its users instead of blaming me?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just for the record I did visit your website before. And you have never 
>> ever recommended any competitor to Voice Dream Reader. Ever. Not even 
>> mention in a bad way. And that seems to be for years. Should anyone believe 
>> that it is a coincidence?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Again, I have put 10 years of work in this product. And you pretty much 
>> question on whether it is worth of being installed for free while Winston's 
>> 10 years are without any doubt worth 100$/year. I don't deny that in some 
>> aspects Voice Dream may be better. But there are at least as many aspects 
>> that Speech Central is better. Speech Central offers Microsoft neural 
>> voices which are 10 years ahead of anything you have in Voice Dream. If you 
>> are any kind of decent and honest expert you would put 5 minutes in setting 
>> that up at least out of curiosity. If you are kind of decent and honest 
>> expert you would say "I don't like this, can you fix it?". But you aren't. 
>> You are just a salesman of Voice Dream, the app that asks 100$/year for 
>> something that Speech Central offers for free.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Finally the main reason that you have dismissed my app is silly. You have 
>> dismissed it because it doesn't announce the reading speed after changing 
>> it! Many people prefer to be able to listen to the effect of the speed 
>> change than to hear the voice that reads the speed and interferes with that 
>> process. Another user here provided much more precise and valuable feedback 
>> - the app doesn't provide any signal to VoiceOver users to speed changes 
&

Re: Voice Dream Reader and Family sharing

[Alan Lemly]

Ivan, Richard Turner has been posting helpful answers and advice on numerous lists for many years. He is not the problem here. You should do a better job of getting your facts straight and should refrain from attacking someone publicly especially when your facts are wrong. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Ivan Icin  wrote:Richard,personally I am disappointed that you present here as some sort of community leader and you don't know even what are VoiceOver gestures. You seem not even to know on how to use them in Voice Dream Reader.Everything that I say is verifiable and everyone can check who is telling the truth. Actually those features exist in Speech Central because one blind user was using them in Voice Dream Reader and he has specifically asked for them and I liked the idea. Everyone can check if this works even in Voice Dream - set a VoiceOver focus on Audio Settings app and swipe up and down and you will see that it changes the speed.Anyway I still thank you for your effort and I appreciate it from that point.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 8:08:21 PM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:You have no idea what you are talking about. You clearly are not understanding what I am saying. If you actually used VoiceOver everyday as I do, what I said would make sense. I'll simply stick with Voice Dream Reader.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 24, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> wrote:Richard,I am not completely sure what you meant by this statement.Thus far I know certainly that you can't access some adjustable controls in my app on main screen (play button gestures and speed button gestures).As far as I understand your description, you can't access any such controls on your device whether they are in my app or in another app?That would make sense, as speed is alternatively set by sliders in settings, which are also adjustable system provided controls, which would explain on why you couldn't set the speed from the very start in any way.Further your description sounds like that you can't perform this action in Voice Dream either. That Audio settings button in Voice Dream is not meant just for displaying the speed as you have quoted, but rather for adjusting the speed by VoiceOver swipe up and down gestures.As such your reflection makes more sense now, but then your device is not working properly (the only second option would be that you don't perform this gestures properly which is much less likely).If you can't use the system control called slider in an accessible way like other VoiceOver users can, that is certainly a big problem that you should fix not because of Speech Central but because it is a widely used control and if it doesn't work many apps will become inaccessible for you though they are actually accessible.One more remark to this - I had a chat week or two ago with one local blind user who has self-discovered those gestures and used them. So it isn't that hard like one user here pointed out.On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:01:23 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:It is over the button labeled Audio Settings and it tells you the number of words per minute.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> wrote:Richard,I have just tried and it works. For speed it may not be obvious as it will just repeat the sentence at a bit higher or slower speed but with two or three swipes the difference will be quite noticeable. Voice Dream Reader has a similar VoiceOver adjustable gesture for speed (I think that it is over their button that should be titled “Speech”). Can you perform such a gesture there?On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:50:45 AM UTC+2 Richard Turner wrote:Ivan,I am using a 13 Pro. And flicking up or down on the speed button does only switch between standard and high.Flicking up or down on the play button doesn't seem to do anything.I will revisit it again after reading the helps.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 23, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Ivan Icin <labsii...@gmail.com> wrote:OK,for the speed when that standard/high speed button is focused with VoiceOver you should hear 'adjustable', which means that you can swipe up and down to do something. In this case it is to increase the current speed (this way you can customise the value of both standard and high speed depending on the state of that button). This is also available in the Settings where you can find sliders to customize those two values (and that is the only 

Re: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, How did you locate the app to be deleted from within the App library? Did you first go to the alphabetized listing? It is when I'm in this listing that access to the edit mode controls are missing. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 24, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I am running the latest public beta of iOS 16.6 and I just tried this by removing the Freeform app from my home screen since it is not an app I use or think I will be using. Afterwards I went to the app library and found the app there,
 I flicked down to start editing mode, then I flicked down again and I have delete there as an option, all the options are:
 
Activate Freeform
Stop Editing Apps
Delete Freeform
Drag Freeform
 
Maybe this has been fixed in iOS 16.6 assuming you are using the iOS 16.6 public release. I think the current public beta is #3 so there will probably be a fourth public beta next week and maybe a 5th a week or two later before
 iOS 16.6 will then be released for everybody sometime around mid or late July.


 
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Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?


 
Hi List,
 
I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing found after
 the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag
 requiring me to first drag the app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.
 
Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way to delete an app shown only in the App Library.
 
Alan Lemly
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RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Christopher,

 

Thanks for confirming the same experience.

 

I spoke with Apple Accessibility and got an excellent rep who told me a 
workaround I’ll be using in the future to delete apps. Go to Settings, General, 
iPhone storage, and swipe right until you reach the app listing which sorts all 
your apps in order of the most used to the least used storage amounts. With 
focus on the app you can single finger swipe up or down to access options to 
delete it, offload it, or activate it to view a screen showing the same options 
with info on how much space you’ll save by deleting or offloading it. This 
worked much better than going to the App Library to delete it.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

 

I do the exact same thing you do, and I’ve experienced the same behavior you’re 
seeing. I haven’t reported this to Apple yet, but we need to do that. BTW, my 
workaround is to just find the app without going into the alphabetized list and 
deleting it that way. I find this is a bit better than copying it to a home 
screen first.

 

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Subject: How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

 

Hi List,

 

I’m attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my 
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple home 
screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library listing 
found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an 
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using 
Apple’s category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when using 
the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first drag the 
app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit mode and delete 
it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I’m wondering if I’m missing a 
better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

 

Many thanks if others can confirm what I’m experiencing and offer a quicker way 
to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

 

Alan Lemly

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How do I delete an app from the App Library using Edit Mode?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'm attempting to delete some apps never used from the growing list on my
iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 16.5. I keep the apps I use often on multiple
home screens but the ones seldom used are only located in the App Library
listing found after the home screens. I like to place the App Library in an
alphabetized listing in order to find the ones to delete as opposed to using
Apple's category listings. However, I am unable to enter Edit mode when
using the alphabetize listing and can only invoke drag requiring me to first
drag the app to be removed to a home screen where I can then invoke Edit
mode and delete it. This seems to be a major design flaw so I'm wondering if
I'm missing a better way to delete an app located only in the App Library.

 

Many thanks if others can confirm what I'm experiencing and offer a quicker
way to delete an app shown only in the App Library.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark, 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I obviously have old technology where my 
washing machine is concerned. But I really dome like technology that tries to 
think for me but a washing machine that never got out of balance would be nice. 

Glad you got it working right and I'll wish you're machine thousands of 
balanced washes with no more walks of shame. 

Alan 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2023, at 7:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
> It is good to hear from you.
> 
> Yes, I would have thought so, also but in 4 years, my washer has not required 
> that I redistribute the load.  This model has an amazing gyroscope built in 
> to the basket.
> 
> In fact, one reason why it took me so long to address the problem is because 
> having to occasionally redistribute the load is a normal thing.
> 
> Then, one day, it occurred to me that for the past 4 years, I had never had 
> the occasion to redistribute anything.
> 
> Since leveling the machine, I've done 10 full capacity loads and there isn't 
> even the hint of having to redistribute anything.
> 
> In fact, 2 days ago, when the machine finished, I opened the lid and noticed 
> that the load had shifted and was not eveningly distributed.  Regardless, the 
> machine ran as smooth as Tupelo honey.  That gyroscope is amazing.  All it 
> requires is that the physical frame be leveled.
> 
> You know, since then, I've been using my iPhone 14 to randomly check the 
> levels of everything around my house and I find that almost nothing in this 
> place is level.  Wow!!!  I'm thinking that there is definitely such a thing 
> as having too much information (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 10:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16
> 
> Mark,
> 
> This was very interesting with excellent detail about the iOS Level app. I 
> suspect that even with a perfectly level washer, you will experience 
> occasions especially when laundering bed linens, blankets, and towels that 
> they will get out of balance in your washer causing it to shake, rattle, and 
> roll and necessitating that you simply open the lid and redistribute 
> everything evenly. Of course, you are free to revisit the level project again 
> if you have that time available.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 5:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I have been meaning to post to the list for quite a while but time just keeps 
> slipping away.
> 
> Anyway, a while back, my top-loading washer began doing the walk of shame 
> across the floor during the high-speed portion of the spin cycle.  Now It was 
> not doing this every spin cycle but only when I had the basket loaded with 
> heavy bedding.
> 
> Anyway, again with that time slipping away thing, I let it go on for far too 
> long.
> 
> Finally, one day, I decided to either resolve the problem on my own or hire 
> someone to do it for me.
> 
> Of course, I knew that the problem was that the machine needed to be leveled 
> as it had been over 4 years since its installation into my home.
> 
> The thing is, to the naked eye, the unit looked pretty much level; at least 
> it did to all of the sighted people I consulted; not professionals, just 
> friends.
> 
> Finally, I remembered that my beloved 14 Pro Max has a native level app.  I 
> discovered that the laundry room floor dips off by about 1 degree as one 
> approaches the center of the room.  You really can't tell by standing on the 
> floor because it only reaches that 1 degree at the very center.
> 
> Anyway, after practicing with the level for a day or so with various surfaces 
> around my house, one day I began leveling the washer, by myself; even though 
> it is generally a 2-man job.
> 
> With the help of the iOS level app, I was able to get the washing machine 
> level after about 15 minutes or so.  I was truly impressed at how sensitive 
> the device was to even the slightest changes in a surface angle.
> 
> After 15 minutes or so, I took my final measurements and the machine was 
> perfectly level from every angle I could think of to measure.
> 
> Now, even with the heaviest loads in the basket, the walk of shame has 
> stopped.
> 
> What a wonderful tool that helped me to get the job done right.
> 
> The level app, found in the Measure app of iOS is always there when you ne

RE: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

This was very interesting with excellent detail about the iOS Level app. I 
suspect that even with a perfectly level washer, you will experience occasions 
especially when laundering bed linens, blankets, and towels that they will get 
out of balance in your washer causing it to shake, rattle, and roll and 
necessitating that you simply open the lid and redistribute everything evenly. 
Of course, you are free to revisit the level project again if you have that 
time available.

Alan Lemly 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 5:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16

Hello Everyone,

I have been meaning to post to the list for quite a while but time just keeps 
slipping away.

Anyway, a while back, my top-loading washer began doing the walk of shame 
across the floor during the high-speed portion of the spin cycle.  Now It was 
not doing this every spin cycle but only when I had the basket loaded with 
heavy bedding.

Anyway, again with that time slipping away thing, I let it go on for far too 
long.

Finally, one day, I decided to either resolve the problem on my own or hire 
someone to do it for me.

Of course, I knew that the problem was that the machine needed to be leveled as 
it had been over 4 years since its installation into my home.

The thing is, to the naked eye, the unit looked pretty much level; at least it 
did to all of the sighted people I consulted; not professionals, just friends.

Finally, I remembered that my beloved 14 Pro Max has a native level app.  I 
discovered that the laundry room floor dips off by about 1 degree as one 
approaches the center of the room.  You really can't tell by standing on the 
floor because it only reaches that 1 degree at the very center.

Anyway, after practicing with the level for a day or so with various surfaces 
around my house, one day I began leveling the washer, by myself; even though it 
is generally a 2-man job.

With the help of the iOS level app, I was able to get the washing machine level 
after about 15 minutes or so.  I was truly impressed at how sensitive the 
device was to even the slightest changes in a surface angle.

After 15 minutes or so, I took my final measurements and the machine was 
perfectly level from every angle I could think of to measure.

Now, even with the heaviest loads in the basket, the walk of shame has stopped.

What a wonderful tool that helped me to get the job done right.

The level app, found in the Measure app of iOS is always there when you need 
it; so take it for a quote, spin, quote, the next time you need to level up.
(smile)

Mark


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Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Alan Lemly]

Richard, Thanks for those additional details about the new owners of Voice Dream Reader also purchasing the name. I did not drill down further into the developer name that is presented in the App Store. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 3, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.HTH,Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi list, As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and wanted to make others aware of it. Alan Lemly



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Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Alan Lemly]

Hi list,

 

As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader
Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the
product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS
Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and
wanted to make others aware of it.

 

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Re: Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails

[Alan Lemly]

I'll add to Sieghard's comment that you should leave screen recognition in your rotor because I'm finding more situations where a particular app seems not to speak many of its controls and turning on screen recognition via the rotor works wonders. Just decide whether to leave it turned on or not for that app before exiting. Also, I'd caution anyone from leaving their rotor set on screen recognition. I prefer moving it to something benign like headings before going to another task. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 25, 2023, at 8:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Whenever something strange is going on checking screen recognition and doing a reboot are always what people should do first.
 


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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 9:04 AM
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Subject: Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails


 
This message is about my inability to delete voice mail and text messages and how we solved it. I am posting this in case someone else has this problem. If you have not, feel free to hit the delete key now.
 
A couple of months ago I suddenly could not delete texts or voicemails. I would flick up and down and all option were gone. Then I did an iOS update and the problem went away.  A week ago it came back. 

 
A wonderful Apple agent helped me figure out that the problem was with the rotor. There is a feature on there called Screen Recognition and it was selected. We figured out that it kept unselected Actions, without which I could not delete.Works
 perfectly now! 
 
Sandy Finley
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RE: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Est

[Alan Lemly]

And for those Harry Potter fans, you can also tell Siri Lumos to turn on the 
flashlight and Nox to turn it off. I’ll caution you that you might have to 
spell Nox n o x for it to work which could be due to my Southern accent.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Stahl
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Subject: Re: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it 
all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Esther

 

Great instructions you can also tell Siri to turn on or off the flashlight you 
just say Siri turn on flashlight or Siri turn off flashlight





On May 25, 2023, at 12:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Flashlight is both on the lock screen and in Notification Centre at the bottom 
left, at the bottom right is the camera button.

It will say "Flashlight Off" or "Flashlight On", double tapping turns it on if 
it is off and it will turn it off if it is on.

I believe you can also add it to Control Panel if you wish.

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Subject: Re: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it 
all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help 
would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Esther

 

hey, Diane, that did the trick! I guess I tried everything else but telling 
Siri to turn it off. Thanks a bunch. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!






On May 24, 2023, at 11:34 PM, Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Esther, just tell Siri to turn flashlight offSent from Diane's awesome iPhone!






On May 24, 2023, at 11:24 PM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:



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Re: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Est

[Alan Lemly]

And for those Harry Potter fans, you can tell Siri lumos to turn on the flashlight or nox to turn it off. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 25, 2023, at 8:35 AM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:Great instructions you can also tell Siri to turn on or off the flashlight you just say Siri turn on flashlight or Siri turn off flashlightOn May 25, 2023, at 12:46 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Flashlight is both on the lock screen and in Notification Centre at the bottom left, at the bottom right is the camera button.
It will say "Flashlight Off" or "Flashlight On", double tapping turns it on if it is off and it will turn it off if it is on.
I believe you can also add it to Control Panel if you wish.


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Subject: Re: how do I turn my flashlight off? hi, everyone, the subject says it all. I don't know how I even turned my flashlight on to begin with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Esther


 
hey, Diane, that did the trick! I guess I tried everything else but telling Siri to turn it off. Thanks a bunch. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!






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Esther, just tell Siri to turn flashlight offSent from Diane's awesome iPhone!





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Re: screen curtain reader query

[Alan Lemly]

Anthony, If you want to customize any of the gestures used by VoiceOver users, go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and Commands and explore the options available there. I like drilling down under All commands where they are grouped by category with their existing settings indicated. You can undo and redo as desired but be cautious about changing anything that is often quoted by other users or you'll find yourself in a state of constant confusion. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 11, 2023, at 11:06 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:Hi  I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance  Anthony 



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Re: Is The Sirius XM App for iOS VoiceOver Accessible?

[Alan Lemly]

Jessica, 

Open the SiriusXM app on your iDevice, make sure Discover is selected at the 
far left of the bottomline toolbar, place focus near the top of the screen 
until you hear All channels and double tap. You will have a list of all 
channels in the signed on account and VoiceOver should speak each of them. 
While VoiceOver speaks the abbreviated ch as chapter instead of channel, you'll 
quickly get used to that. With my settings, VoiceOver speaks the artist name 
and track title of what is currently playing on the channel with focus but the 
name of the channel is also spoken after the artist and title. 

Good luck. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
> 
> How do you get VoiceOver to read the actual channel names? I mainly stream 
> SiriusXM on my Echo Studio. I know the names of a lot of the main channels 
> because my boyfriend has been a subscriber for years and knows a lot about 
> what they offer, but there are extra channels out there that I can't ask her 
> to play because I don't know what their names are. VoiceOver just reads a 
> very brief description of each channel.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, May 04, 2023 07:23 PM
> To: Digest recipients 
> Subject: Digest for viphone@googlegroups.com - 21 updates in 6 topics
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> From: "Terje Strømberg" 
> Date: May 05 01:02AM +0200
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/4ee0958904838
> Hello. 
> A tip. Go to ios settings, accessibility, voice over, commands, all commands, 
> choose a command section, touch or keyboard works, but more commands on 
> keyboard. Here comes the tip: if the voice over says the command is already 
> in use, don't press cancel, press apply/ok/confirm  or whatever the button 
> describe in english, then do the same thing one more time e.g choose a 
> command with vo down on the keyboard and whatever key combination you like, i 
> mean one letter or one number. It just works. 
> The importance is to , if you get the error message (already in use), to hit 
> apply/ok/confirm button the first time anyway, then make the command one more 
> time. It looks like you can have more than one command at the same time, i 
> mean, more than one key combination for the same command at the same time. 
> You can also easy delete the old key combination  by using the rotor and up 
> arrow.
> Many thanks
> 
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> From: Lelia Struve 
> Date: May 04 03:31PM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/4e914043cc47a
> Hi all, So I haven't used the zello app in years.  I just re-installed it and 
> now it doesn't seem to work good with Iphones.   When I push the hold to 
> talk, sometimes it works and most times it doesn't. If anyone can find or 
> tell me a work around to get it to work I'd appreciate that.  Thanks
> Lelia 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> -- 2 of 3 --
> From: Tim Leet 
> Date: May 04 06:18PM -0400
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/4eba6b658f315
> Good afternoon, there is a setting that you can go to and you can change it 
> or you do a two finger double tap to transmit and a two finger

Re: Is The Sirius XM App for iOS Voiceover Accessible?

[Alan Lemly]

StarPlayrX Is another iOS app that works with your SiriusXM account that you 
might find more accessible. It contains a search option on its channels page. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2023, at 2:50 PM, kevinwass...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have the app. It is accessible. However, I will say that there does not 
> appear to be a good search feature on the app. For example, I can not type in 
> a channel in an edit field. Maybe it does exist. But if that feature does 
> exist. Voice-o er does not read it. However, the app is pretty accessible.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 4:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Is The Sirius XM App for iOS VoiceOver Accessible?
> 
> Thank you all for your replies.
> 
> Okay, I'll give it a try.
> 
> Again, thank you all so very much.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Melissa Tucker
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 3:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is The Sirius XM App for iOS VoiceOver Accessible?
> 
> I use it as well.  It's fine.
> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> 
> yes, it absolutely is.  works just fine
> 
>> On 5/3/2023 6:18 PM, alia robinson wrote:
>> Yes, it’s fine. I use it all the time.
>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Is the Sirius XM app for iOS currently VoiceOver accessible?
>>> 
>>> I was thinking about subscribing to the service but then remembered 
>>> that there may be problems so wanted to do a  quick gravity check, 
>>> here before taking the plunge.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Mark
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RE: Aiko, new audio to text iOS app From Applevis.com

[Alan Lemly]

Here are my results using Aiko on my iPhone 13 Mini.

 

I imported a 23MB mp3 file of an HOA meeting which was about 50 minutes in 
length and recorded using the RecUp app on my 13 Mini and housed in a Dropbox 
folder. The process started smoothly but I will caution folks that it actually 
takes longer to transcribe than the actual meeting length at least on an iPhone 
13 Mini. In fact, I think my initial test might have been too ambitious because 
after running for about an hour and a half and getting 80% complete, the app 
stopped and I lost what had been transcribed. My iPhone got very warm during 
the process and my battery went from about 80% charge to 20% before I realized 
I needed to plug it into a power adapter at about 60% of the way through 
transcription. I’m just noting this for those attempting to transcribe a 
meeting of any length.

 

I next transcribed a much shorter doctor’s visit recording of an mp3 file also 
made with the RecUp app. This recording was only 1.2MB in size and the 
recording was less than 10 minutes in length. I’ll not comment on the amount of 
time I spent waiting to see that doctor versus the length of the actual 
meeting. I will say that Aiko did a great job of transcription which I exported 
as a CSV file to the same Dropbox folder as the source recording. When opened 
in Excel, the CSV file is  3 columns of information with column 1 containing 
the recording start time, column 2 containing the recording stop time, and 
column 3 containing the transcribed text from that recording period. I ended up 
with 60 rows of transcribed text and the results were excellent.

 

I’ll try Aiko on a longer meeting to see if I’m successful without a crash and 
will report back the results. I will make sure my iPhone is plugged in before 
beginning a longer transcription process.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Ford
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2023 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aiko, new audio to text iOS app From Applevis.com

 

Interesting app. I tried it on the most recent episode of my podcast from 
tptbnl.com <http://tptbnl.com> . I usually use Office Online’s transcription 
feature and more recently the same technology added to Word For Windows. 

 

The positive, this is very accurate. It seems to take as long as the audio file 
is though. My 52 minute audio file is at 40% and has taken 20 minutes so far. 
That is on an iPhone 10R so newer models may be faster.

 

Looking in settings, I find that you can have timestamps for the transcript but 
I don’t see the ability at this point to have speaker identification.

 

You can record audio or import from your iPhone or different online services.

 

Overall, this is pretty impressive to get this level of transcription accuracy 
on the phone.

 

Kelly

 

 

On Apr 30, 2023, at 6:50 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

I read about this today in the AppleVis newsletter.

Note, the app is 2 GB in size.  I have not tried it, but I know some folks have 
wanted a good transcription app from audio to text.

 

Description from the app store followed by the link.

High-quality on-device transcription. Easily convert speech to text from 
meetings, lectures, and more. 

The transcription is powered by OpenAI's Whisper running locally on your 
device. The audio never leaves your device. You can export the transcription as 
subtitles too. Aiko favors accuracy over speed. 

Supports 100 different languages: Afrikaans, Albanian, Amharic, Arabic, 
Armenian, Assamese, Azerbaijani, Bangla, Bashkir, Basque, Belarusian, Bosnian, 
Breton, Bulgarian, Burmese, Catalan, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, 
English, Estonian, Faroese, Finnish, French, Galician, Georgian, German, Greek, 
Gujarati, Haitian Creole, Hausa, Hawaiian, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Icelandic, 
Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Javanese, Kannada, Kazakh, Khmer, Korean, Lao, 
Latin, Latvian, Lingala, Lithuanian, Luxembourgish, Macedonian, Malagasy, 
Malay, Malayalam, Maltese, Marathi, Mongolian, Māori, Nepali, Norwegian, 
Norwegian Nynorsk, Occitan, Pashto, Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, 
Romanian, Russian, Sanskrit, Serbian, Shona, Sindhi, Sinhala, Slovak, 
Slovenian, Somali, Spanish, Swahili, Swedish, Tagalog, Tajik, Tamil, Tatar, 
Telugu, Thai, Tibetan, Turkish, Turkmen, Ukrainian, Urdu, Uzbek, Vietnamese, 
Welsh, Yiddish, Yoruba 

The app was made possible thanks to Whisper by OpenAI and whisper.cpp by Georgi 
Gerganov. 

■ FAQ ‣ Can I edit the text in the app? I don't plan to support any editing. 
Export the transcription and edit it in a proper text editor. 

‣ Why is the app so large? The app delivers the highest quality transcription 
on the market for 100 different languages. Rather than asking why it's so 
large, the real question is how is it so small. 

‣ Why is the transcription so slow? The favors accuracy over speed. However, 
performance is expecte

RE: Periodic table app with VoiceOver iOS 16.4.1

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Shai,

While I'm not familiar with the various periodic table apps in iOS, I did just 
download Elementium and while it has a premium version and various updates that 
cost, it seems to have a free version that will do what you want. Its 
bottomline toolbar contains 4 buttons from left to right: Table, List, 
Solubility, and Settings. If you select List, an alphabetized list of the 
elements is presented and a search box is present at the top of the screen 
where you can search for the desired element. The table button presents the 
elements in numerical order with their alphabetic abbreviation and Voiceover 
speaks these items as you swipe through the elements. Also, if you drill down 
into the element by double tapping on it, a screen opens containing more 
detailed information about that element and Voiceover speaks that information 
too.

If looking for an accessible Periodic Table for a Windows computer, you might 
try Nathan Tech's The Periodic Table which can be found here:

https://www.nathantech.net/nathantechsoftware.php

Finally, for those Excel enthusiasts, Here is a Dropbox download link to a 
periodic table I got from Wikipedia and pasted into Excel with speaking column 
headings and row titles:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3yqfwots63rzkjo/Periodic%20table%20of%20elements.xlsx?dl=1

I strongly suggest that anyone using the Excel version double check anything of 
importance. I was a tax accountant in my former life, not a scientist.

Alan Lemly  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shai
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Subject: Periodic table app with VoiceOver iOS 16.4.1

Hello all,
Is there a no-cost periodic table app for the iPhone accessible with VoiceOver 
that a person can type in the element name and get the information about it? I 
vaguely remember that there was an app of this type; however, I do not recall 
the name.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


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PayPal now offering high-yield savings account paying 4.15% APR

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

Since I posted about the Apple Card high-yield savings account, I thought
I'd also let folks know that PayPal is offering a similar savings account
also paying an annual percentage yield of 4.15%. I did not set up one of
these account since I did not need it so I'm unsure if the process is
similar to that of setting up the Apple Card savings account or not. I also
have no clue if this account requires any residency requirements and if you
must live in the USA to open one or not.

 

I know many folks on these lists use PayPal so perhaps if anyone
successfully sets up one of these savings accounts, they can post back with
how the process worked. I did just update my PayPal app today so you might
want to make sure yours is also updated because I suspect this was just
recently added in order to compete with the Apple Card savings account.
After my PayPal app update, this savings account was being touted at the top
of the PayPal opening screen.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Instructions on how to set up Apple Card high-yield savings account

[Alan Lemly]

Well, that sucks and I wish I could convince Apple to make the Apple Card 
available everywhere. I will, in the future, make sure if I post anything about 
the Apple Card to include a disclaimer line that it does not apply to non-USA 
subscribers.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Weitzel
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Not at this point:

 

Another year has gone by without Apple expanding Apple Card availability 
outside the US

Tom Sykes

POSTED ON 01/01/2023

 

Another 12 months have gone by without Apple expanding Apple Card availability 
outside the US, over three years after the service first launched in August 
2019. Apple Card, created in partnership with investment banking company 
Goldman Sachs, allows users to track spending and help manage bills within the 
Wallet app on iOS – completely fee-free, and with lower interest rates compared 
to traditional banks.

Users can make purchases using their Apple Card with Apple Pay on their iPhone, 
iPad, Apple Watch, and Mac, or with the optional titanium Apple Card banking 
card, which features no printed card number or security code, making it the 
world’s most secure credit card.

Since its launch, Apple has kept Apple Card exclusive to customers in the US, 
although at one point there were rumors that an international expansion was on 
the table after 

Apple acquired Credit Kudos, a UK open banking startup earlier this year, 
suggesting the service could arrive in the UK, as well as the iPhone maker 
receiving trademark approval for the name Apple Card in Canada in 2021, 
although nothing ever came of the two developments.

The credit card industry works differently in the US than the rest of the 
world. The fees companies charge to merchants whenever they take a card payment 
are relatively low elsewhere compared to the US, making it hard for Apple to 
offer the same Apple Card perks that it does in the US, such as Daily Cash 
back. With there being no expansion to the availability of Apple Card over the 
past three years, it seems like at least for now, Apple is happy with having 
the service limited to users in the United States. There is no word from Apple 
on if an international expansion is planned, but many users are hoping that the 
New Year sees the iPhone maker expand the availability of the service beyond 
Apple’s home country.

 

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Re: Instructions on how to set up Apple Card high-yield savings account

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Hi Sieghard, Thanks for that clarification. I wasn't sure whether the savings account was a US only thing or not. Is the Apple Card itself available for those not in the USA? Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 20, 2023, at 11:49 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







And just to emphasize it, this only applies to people in the United States.
 


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Goldman Sachs Bank which issues the Apple Card began offering a high-yield Apple Card savings account yesterday 4/19/23. According to the below website, this account is currently paying a 4.15% APR or APY depending on your acronym of choice:
 
https://nr.apple.com/DH9l5p5Ab0
 
You can read about how any Apple Cash earned with your Apple Card is automatically deposited in this account at the above site. I thought the site was a bit lax in providing specific instructions on how to set up one of these accounts so
 I’m posting that below:
 


Open the Wallet app on your iPhone or iOS device and tap on “Apple Card.”
Tap the More button, then tap “Daily Cash.”
Tap “Set Up” next to “Savings,” and follow the onscreen instructions to the savings account application.
 
For those who already have Apple Cards, setting up this account took about 2 minutes. When following the above instructions, you have to provide your Social Security or taxpayer ID number and confirm that you are not subject to IRS backup
 income tax withholding. More than likely, you already have a bank account attached to your Apple Card for paying it off and transferring funds between this external bank account and the high-yield savings account is very easy.
 
I hope the above information is helpful to anyone interested in this savings account.
 
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Instructions on how to set up Apple Card high-yield savings account

[Alan Lemly]

Goldman Sachs Bank which issues the Apple Card began offering a high-yield
Apple Card savings account yesterday 4/19/23. According to the below
website, this account is currently paying a 4.15% APR or APY depending on
your acronym of choice:

 

https://nr.apple.com/DH9l5p5Ab0

 

You can read about how any Apple Cash earned with your Apple Card is
automatically deposited in this account at the above site. I thought the
site was a bit lax in providing specific instructions on how to set up one
of these accounts so I'm posting that below:

 

1.  Open the Wallet app on your iPhone or iOS device and tap on "Apple
Card."
2.  Tap the More button, then tap "Daily Cash."
3.  Tap "Set Up" next to "Savings," and follow the onscreen instructions
to the savings account application.

 

For those who already have Apple Cards, setting up this account took about 2
minutes. When following the above instructions, you have to provide your
Social Security or taxpayer ID number and confirm that you are not subject
to IRS backup income tax withholding. More than likely, you already have a
bank account attached to your Apple Card for paying it off and transferring
funds between this external bank account and the high-yield savings account
is very easy.

 

I hope the above information is helpful to anyone interested in this savings
account.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: About GPS systems and their accuracy

[Alan Lemly]

Sieghard,

 

As always, thanks for an excellent post with well-documented source material 
regarding GPS.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 12:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: About GPS systems and their accuracy

 

For those who didn't read the thread about the "Differences in iPhone 14 
models" here again what I posted regarding GPS accuracy. I wrote this in reply 
to a statement Kelly made about having heard that the iPhone 15 Pro may have 1 
inch GPS accuracy. In particular he said "it may also have dual channel 
satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch compared to 
the 20 feet single channel offers"

One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities between 
tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of time may result in 
extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices cannot do this in most 
applications or without the euse of additional "augmentation systems 
<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20augmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>
 ", here the definition of what that is:

A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, 
integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, navigation, 
and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.

Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can measure 
locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known as Real-Time 
Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They

use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly accurate 
positions."

And here a page from the US government website about GPS accuracy 
<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/> , one highlight here is 
this:

It will depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are 
visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS signals 
(direct, reflection, interference). As measured by the Air Force that runs the 
GPS program, the error across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 
feet, 95% of the time on 20 April 2021.

Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately makes the GPS 
system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 years ago, specifically in 
2000 then President Bill Clinton put a stop to the so-called "selective 
availabbility" which was used throughout the 90's globally to make GPS signals 
for civilian use less accurate. On the GPS website it says " The United States 
has no intent to ever use Selective Availability again.".

 

What Kelly referred to as "dual channel satellite navigation is technically 
called "dual frequency" or "multi band" and many of the newer Garmin GPS's 
including some of Garmin's watches already have this.

Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website:

What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS?

Dual-frequency or "Multi-Band" systems use multiple frequency bands and allow 
for more consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the device in 
challenging environments.

This means the receiver tracks more than one radio signal from each satellite 
on different frequencies, which can reduce errors caused by environmental 
interference.

 

What Advantages Do Multi-Band Devices Have Over Other Models?

• More consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the device in 
challenging environments (e.g. around tall buildings in urban canyons as well 
as tree cover)

• Can achieve accuracy within about +/- 2 meters or 6 feet under ideal 
conditions versus the +/- 3 meters or 10 feet accuracy of other models

• Detect (and reject) reflected satellite signals better than a single 
frequency receiver which improves accuracy

• Better equipped to account for and correct errors that can be introduced by 
atmospheric effects (e.g. ionosphere errors)

NOTE: Multi-GNSS satellite systems include GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, QZSS, BeiDou, 
and IRNSS (NavIC). Some satellite systems are not available in all areas of the 
globe.

For more details, see https://www.gps.gov/systems/gnss/

 

I am sure the iPhone 15 Pro will undoubtedly be a fantastic device, but it 
seems Apple is differenciating the Pro models more and more from the regular 
models and then we have rumours of an iPhone 15 Ultra although I also read that 
this may possibly what Apple will call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and they will give 
it even more features or make it tougher than the regular iPhone 15 Pro.

I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any iPhone in 
the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy especially not in the places 
where most people live like cities with tall buildings and many sources of 
potential interference. For now the next big reveal will be iOS 17 on Monday, 
June 5 which App

Re: An iPhone Question

[Alan Lemly]

And if media starts playing when you do a two finger double tap to end a phone call, do another two finger double tap and it will stop playing. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 23, 2023, at 8:01 AM, Thom Spittle  wrote:What is happening there is that the person is hanging up faster than you. And since it is doing that, you are doing the two finger double tap, which will start and stop whatever media was playing. There is really no way to fix that. other than to wait to see if the person hangs up or not. If they don’t hang up after a few seconds, you can do the two finger double tap.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 23, 2023, at 8:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Are you using the two finger double tap to hang up on your call? If so, I suspect the call has already been disconnected when you use the two finger double tap, so the “magic tap” is playing your music since there’s no call to hang up.
 Hopefully others have a better solution, but I’m just a bit more careful when using a magic tap to hang up on a call, and when music does fire up, I just use another magic tap to stop it.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: An iPhone Question


 
Hello List,
 
When I hang up from a call, I’ve noticed that my phone will start playing music from my library.
 
Is there a way to disable this so that when I hang up, I don’t hear musicc?
 
 
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RE: Getting started with Blind Square

[Alan Lemly]

Ralph,

 

I’d recommend you subscribe to the blindsquare...@groups.io 
<mailto:blindsquare...@groups.io>  list for getting more specific help with 
BlindSquare. You can subscribe by sending a blank email to:

 

blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting started with Blind Square

 

Hi,

 

I just downloaded Blind Square and am a little overwhelmed by all the options.  
I have a couple of questions that hopefully will get me started.

 

When I decided to get Blind Square I thought it would work in a similar way to 
Apple Maps or Good Maps Outdoors.  After reading some of the manual, it seems 
that Blind Square works in conjunction with Apple Maps and not in place of it.  
So, what do I need to do to use them together?

 

Second, I bought Blind Square because I want to explore routes and destinations 
starting from a location different than my actual location.  My wife and I are 
buying a house in a different town.  I’d like to figure out what businesses are 
in the area of our new house.  I’d like to figure out the location of 
particular types of businesses such as drug stores or florists (our anniversary 
is coming soon) to know which I can reach by walking or by public 
transportation.  

 

Any pointers to get me started would be much appreciated.

 

Ralph

 

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Re: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail?

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Yes, this message does have more detail but as I do all my interaction with this list on either my iPhone or Windows 10 computer and their email clients, I can't help with interacting with it via a web interface. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 19, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:Thank you for your response. I guess I was not clear. I know how to send an email to the list. I was wondering how you start a new conversation if you are reading list on the web. There is no new topic or start thread command in the Google groups interface that I could find. I hope this is clearer.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 19, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Kevin, I’m going to answer using the native Mail app since you didn’t mention what you use for email on your iPhone. I’m assuming you already have an account set up in Mail.Open the Mail app.Execute the Compose button which is found at the lower bottom right of the screen.You will be placed in a To: text box where you should enter viphone@googlegroups.com. This is a live link so you might be able to execute it from within an email message you are reviewing on your iPhone with the Mail app although I’m not exactly sure what happens in that case.Single finger swipe right to you reach the Subject text box and enter an appropriate subject for your new message.Single finger swipe right until you hear Message content, message body which is a large text box for entering your new message content with the on screen keyboard.After you’ve completed your message, place focus on the Send button in the top upper right corner of the screen and execute it. Good luck. Alan Lemly -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin GibbsSent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail? Subject says it all.  I’m writing this on my computer using Apple Mail.  I was looking at ViPhone on my phone and wanted to start a new conversation and couldn’t figure out how.  There has to be a way to start a new topic in this group from one’s phone without starting with an e-mail generated from Apple Mail.  Right?  How does one do that? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9145CDF2-659E-41C4-A5B1-194B64FC3AF5%40gmail.com.



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RE: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and not using Mail?

[Alan Lemly]

Kevin,

 

1.  I’m going to answer using the native Mail app since you didn’t mention 
what you use for email on your iPhone. I’m assuming you already have an account 
set up in Mail.
2.  Open the Mail app.
3.  Execute the Compose button which is found at the lower bottom right of 
the screen.
4.  You will be placed in a To: text box where you should enter 
viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> . This is a live 
link so you might be able to execute it from within an email message you are 
reviewing on your iPhone with the Mail app although I’m not exactly sure what 
happens in that case.
5.  Single finger swipe right to you reach the Subject text box and enter 
an appropriate subject for your new message.
6.  Single finger swipe right until you hear Message content, message body 
which is a large text box for entering your new message content with the on 
screen keyboard.
7.  After you’ve completed your message, place focus on the Send button in 
the top upper right corner of the screen and execute it.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I start a new conversation in this group using my iPhone and 
not using Mail?

 

Subject says it all.  I’m writing this on my computer using Apple Mail.  I was 
looking at ViPhone on my phone and wanted to start a new conversation and 
couldn’t figure out how.  There has to be a way to start a new topic in this 
group from one’s phone without starting with an e-mail generated from Apple 
Mail.  Right?  How does one do that?

 

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Resolved: How can I get Verizon voice mails to play through connected Bluetooth speaker?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi again List,

 

I figured out the answer to my previous post included below about how to get
my Verizon voice mail messages to play through a connected Bluetooth
speaker. The answer follows:

 

When the Phone app is open and Voicemail is selected on the far right of the
bottomline toolbar, a list of previous voicemails is displayed on the
screen. Place focus on the one to be listened to through a connected
Bluetooth speaker and double tap. A set of controls will open below that
message including a Voicemail position timeline followed by buttons for Play
voicemail, Playback destination, Call, Delete, and Transcription. Make sure
your Bluetooth speaker is connected to your device and double tap on the
Playback destination button. A popup window will open where you can double
tap on your connected Bluetooth speaker. When you next double tap on the
Play button, playback should come from that speaker.

 

I have a couple of Bluetooth speakers and apparently my problem was that I
was attempting to play my voicemail message through a Bose Mini Soundlink 2
speaker. When choosing it, playback would sound for about a half second from
the Bose and then immediately revert to playing through the phone's earpiece
speaker. When I followed the above steps and used my Tribit Bluetooth
speaker, the voicemail message played just fine through it.

 

I hope the above might be helpful to someone else so I'm documenting this.
At any rate, I'll be able to look it up myself the next time I want to do
this and can't remember the steps.

 

Alan Lemly  

 

Hi List,

 

Apologies if this has previously been answered but I normally listen to
everything on my iPhone with wired Apple Earpods. I have a Verizon account
and I want to play s saved voice mail message to a group of people in a room
through a Bose Bluetooth speaker connected to my iPhone 13 Mini. I'm running
iOS 16.3.1 and when my iPhone is on a table and I execute the button to play
the voice mail with my Bluetooth speaker connected, the audio plays through
the iPhone's earpiece speaker used when holding the phone to your ear, not
the Bose Bluetooth speaker. I'm looking for any settings to change so I can
hear the message through the Bluetooth speaker.

 

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

 

Alan Lemly

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How can I get Verizon voice mails to play through connected Bluetooth speaker?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

Apologies if this has previously been answered but I normally listen to
everything on my iPhone with wired Apple Earpods. I have a Verizon account
and I want to play s saved voice mail message to a group of people in a room
through a Bose Bluetooth speaker connected to my iPhone 13 Mini. I'm running
iOS 16.3.1 and when my iPhone is on a table and I execute the button to play
the voice mail with my Bluetooth speaker connected, the audio plays through
the iPhone's earpiece speaker used when holding the phone to your ear, not
the Bose Bluetooth speaker. I'm looking for any settings to change so I can
hear the message through the Bluetooth speaker.

 

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Important, No Text Verifications

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Anna, 

I agree wholeheartedly. I really wish folks would pick a list to post their 
questions and give subscribers time to answer before posting the same question 
to another list. Many of us are subscribed to multiple lists dealing with 
similar topics and by the time you add in all the commercial advertising 
messages, the inbox gets quite overwhelmed. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Yes, Later I saw the other thread where the problem was resolved. It’s 
> confusing when people post the same question to multiple lists.
> 
> Cheers,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> 
>> I believe I saw on the viphone list that Chris' issue was due to his mobile 
>> carrier and that he had resolved it. But I'm not speaking for anyone because 
>> he also posted his issue to Blind Apples and I don't believe any resolution 
>> was posted there. I just thought you should know that your message was 
>> posted to viphone2  and I'm not sure about the distribution of those 
>> messages at this point.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:12 PM
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Important, No Text Verifications
>> 
>> Hello Chris,
>> 
>> Is the problem that you aren’t getting the text messages, or that you aren’t 
>> being notified when they come in? If the latter, go to Settings, then 
>> Notifications, and see how Messages is set. Also, make sure you don’t have a 
>> focus turned on that blocks notifications. You could also, as a temporary 
>> work-around, open Messages when you are expecting a code and see if one 
>> comes in.
>> 
>> If the messages aren’t coming at all, open Settings, then Messages, and see 
>> if a setting is amiss.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2023, at 7:07 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> All of a sudden, I am not able to receive verification codes for logging 
>>> into websites like for banking. At first, I thought it might be an issue 
>>> with the website, but this happens to me on multiple sites.
>>> 
>>> These sites do not have apps to access your information, so I am forced to 
>>> go through their site. And without being able to receive the verification 
>>> codes, I can not access my accounts. Again, this is on multiple sites.
>>> 
>>> This is what I have tried so far.
>>> 1, Restarting my iPhone.
>>> 2, Doing a forced restart of my iPhone.
>>> 3, Made sure both sms and mms are turned on in the settings.
>>> 4, Checked to make sure the numbers are not in my block list. Actually at 
>>> this moment, I have no numbers in my block list.
>>> 5, Reset my network settings.
>>> 6, Made sure I have both wi-fi and cell connections.
>>> 
>>> These sites send you a verification code by text and that is how you finish 
>>> the log in process. And the text message is the only choice.
>>> 
>>> I am out of ideas, so I wanted to see if anyone else ever had this issue, 
>>> or if anyone had any ideas of what else it could be. Getting on to these 
>>> sites are important, so any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>> 
>>> By the way, I am running 16.3 on an Iphone 14 Pro.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris
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RE: Important, No Text Verifications

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Anna,

I believe I saw on the viphone list that Chris' issue was due to his mobile 
carrier and that he had resolved it. But I'm not speaking for anyone because he 
also posted his issue to Blind Apples and I don't believe any resolution was 
posted there. I just thought you should know that your message was posted to 
viphone2  and I'm not sure about the distribution of those messages at this 
point.

Alan Lemly

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From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:12 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important, No Text Verifications

Hello Chris,

Is the problem that you aren’t getting the text messages, or that you aren’t 
being notified when they come in? If the latter, go to Settings, then 
Notifications, and see how Messages is set. Also, make sure you don’t have a 
focus turned on that blocks notifications. You could also, as a temporary 
work-around, open Messages when you are expecting a code and see if one comes 
in.

If the messages aren’t coming at all, open Settings, then Messages, and see if 
a setting is amiss.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


> On Mar 4, 2023, at 7:07 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> All of a sudden, I am not able to receive verification codes for logging into 
> websites like for banking. At first, I thought it might be an issue with the 
> website, but this happens to me on multiple sites.
> 
> These sites do not have apps to access your information, so I am forced to go 
> through their site. And without being able to receive the verification codes, 
> I can not access my accounts. Again, this is on multiple sites.
> 
> This is what I have tried so far.
> 1, Restarting my iPhone.
> 2, Doing a forced restart of my iPhone.
> 3, Made sure both sms and mms are turned on in the settings.
> 4, Checked to make sure the numbers are not in my block list. Actually at 
> this moment, I have no numbers in my block list.
> 5, Reset my network settings.
> 6, Made sure I have both wi-fi and cell connections.
> 
> These sites send you a verification code by text and that is how you finish 
> the log in process. And the text message is the only choice.
> 
> I am out of ideas, so I wanted to see if anyone else ever had this issue, or 
> if anyone had any ideas of what else it could be. Getting on to these sites 
> are important, so any help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> By the way, I am running 16.3 on an Iphone 14 Pro.
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Re: How to manage passwords?

[Alan Lemly]

This is sort of difficult to answer since your issue is a direct result of procedural errors on your part. I would recommend you find a password manager that will run both on your laptop and in iOS and that will let you import from what you're currently using. Then, you will have to take the time to manually go through and make sure everything is there. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 2, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Mária Orovčíková  wrote:
  


  
  
Hello list,
I have been using Password managers for ages to access passwords on
my Windows 10 laptop and Iphone.
Since Icloud keychain has been available, all my passwords are
messed up.
Some are saved in a password manager and some are saved in the
Icloud keychain, because when I used some websites or apps on Iphone
requiring passwords, I saved the passwords in the Icloud keychain,
but forgot to save them in the password manager.
When I used my laptop, I saved password in the password manager, ut
didn't save them in the Icloud keychain.
I would like to have all passwords in the Password manager and in
the Icloud keychain too.
Please, is there a way to merge passwords and have them saved in the
password manager and Icloud keychain, or will I have to save every
single entry manually?
I have more than 100 paswords, so it would take me too long to add
them one by one.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria

  




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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Alan Lemly]

Curious. I just changed my VoiceOver voice from Samantha enhanced to Nathan 
enhanced and he says muted when the switch is set toward the back of my iPhone 
13 Mini and unmuted when the switch is set toward the screen. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Jessica Barr  wrote:
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> Hi,
> On my iPhone 14 Pro, VoiceOver always says "unmuted" whichever way the mute 
> switch is pushed as well. I am using Nathan Enhanced.
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> From: Steve Matzura 
> Date: Feb 28 07:37AM -0500
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10b04999d160f
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe 
> not. If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver 
> says "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. 
> However, even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone 
> sounds are definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of 
> the phone, and restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice 
> this?
> 
> -- 2 of 6 --
> From: Donna Casteen 
> Date: Feb 28 06:11AM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10cebbdee4f00
> I'm not experiencing this with my iPhone 11 or iPhone Se 2020. Both phones 
> are running the most up to date IOS version.
> Donna
> 
> -- 3 of 6 --
> From: Joshua Hendrickson 
> Date: Feb 28 08:03AM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/10fb52d5b9b9e
> I don't either.  If I flip my mute switch one way, I hear muted, if I
> flip it back, I hear unmuted.  I've got a 13 pro max updated to the
> latest version.
> 
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> From: Alan Lemly 
> Date: Feb 28 10:15AM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/116edef5e1e2f
> Steve, 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> Alan Lemly 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> -- 5 of 6 --
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> Date: Feb 28 08:22AM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone/msg/1175b2e9fc83f
> It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
> My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
> related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
> this one out.
> 
> Richard, USA.
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Alan Lemly]

I suspect the TTS voice being used for VoiceOver might be a contributing 
factor. If I were experiencing this, that's the first thing I'd try. I'm using 
Samantha enhanced as my VoiceOver voice. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Feb 28, 2023, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It sounds like a call to Apple Accessibility is needed: 877-204-3930 24/7
> My 13 pro says muted and unmuted like always.  I do not find any settings 
> related to the mute switch, but Apple Accessibility would be able to figure 
> this one out.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-----
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> Lemly
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Steve, 
> 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>> 
>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
>> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
>> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, 
>> even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
>> definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
>> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Alan Lemly]

Steve, 

That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. As 
others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my iPhone 
13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, even 
> though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are definitely 
> muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and restored when 
> moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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Re: automatic updates

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Settings, App Store, App updates. Make sure this is set to off. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 28, 2023, at 9:52 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Paula, In Settings, look for App Store, or iTunes and App Store.  I think that has changed names in different IOS versions.  In there, you should find where you can turn off the automatic app updates. Hope this helps.Pam From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula JordanSent: Tuesday, February 28, 2023 10:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: automatic updates Hi all. I would like to have automatic updates set to off. Under general and software updates that setting is off, but apps are still updated automatically from the app store. I think there is somewhere else that I need to turn automatic updates off, but I can’t remember where that is and can’t seem to find it. Any help would be appreciated. I’ve found a few incidences where I didn’t want an app updated because accessibility got broken. Again, thanks for everyone’s help with all of our questions.God bless!Paula and the pups-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/009501d94b87%24dd3b75f0%2497b261d0%24%40roadrunner.com.



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Re: amazon music app and podcasts

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Hi Star Gazer, I'd recommend you place Screen recognition in your rotor and set it to yes when reviewing your followed podcasts with the Amazon Music app. I found much more info was being spoken with screen recognition turned on when reviewing available podcasts under the Library tab just now. Actually, keeping screen recognition handy is a good idea when dealing with any app that doesn't seem to be speaking info you feel certain is present. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 17, 2023, at 6:24 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:For whatever reason my list of followed podcasts doesn’t show up under the shows tab in the library section when using voiceover. When voiceover is turned off, the list is apparently there according to those who can see the screen. Since I’m totally blind this is is not helpful to me. Anybody know how to fix or who I talk to at Amazon? 



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Re: Looking for an extremely durable Android phone

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Hi James, I expect you'll have much more success with your question on an Android list as opposed to on one that discusses iPhones. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2023, at 8:17 AM, James Bentley  wrote:OK, this might sound a bit crazy but I have a very good friend who has dropped her Android phone so many times over the years that you all would doubt me if I told you how many times.  And, it is usually in my apartment on my hard tile floors.   Around one fourth of the time, the screen is cracked and she has to buy a new phone.  LOL, her husband is just about to ask her for a divorce.  Just kidding on that one. Anyway, does any one make a phone that can survive drops on to a tile floor?  She hates cases but if necessary, who might make a military grade case. Any information  will be appreciated by me and especially her husband who is paying for these phones.  James B  



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Re: Phone Not Coming On

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I agree that this sounds like a dead battery. I'd recommend you plug it into an appropriate charging block that is plugged into a wall outlet connected to your iPhone with the appropriate lightning cable. Leave it plugged in for a couple of hours and try powering it on. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 11:10 AM, B. J. Maynard  wrote:








hi,
 
Just a quick thought could the  battery be 
dead?  Perhaps plug it in to charge for a  half hour or so and then 
try turning it on? 
 
B. J. Maynard

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  Subject: RE: Phone Not Coming On
  
  
  I 
  can’t even talk to Siri.
   
   
  
  
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
  Behalf Of kheve...@fuse.netSent: Tuesday, 
  January 31, 2023 9:04 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: 
  RE: Phone Not Coming On
   
  I found the bluetooth device and physically turned it 
  off.  I never thought about asking Siri to turn it off.  
  
   
  
  
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
  Behalf Of CarlaSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 11:35 
  AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: 
  RE: Phone Not Coming On
   
  I wondered about that but when I plugged ear buds in to it 
  to see if that would change things I still can’t get any sound.  How did 
  you fix yours.
   
  
  
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
  Behalf Of kheve...@fuse.netSent: Tuesday, 
  January 31, 2023 8:34 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: 
  RE: Phone Not Coming On
   
  Carla, did your phone accidentally get connected to 
  bluetooth device?  I had that happen a couple times.  When it does, 
  it sounds as if everything is totally dead.  
   
  
  
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
  Behalf Of CarlaSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 1:41 
  AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: 
  Phone Not Coming On
   
  I have the SE 3 and it appears to have died.  I tried 
  plugging ear buds in and turning the volume up and that didn’t work.  I 
  tried putting it on a couple of different chargers and that didn’t work.  
  The screen is totally black.  I don’t remember how to do a reset but 
  there is no power to the phone anyway.  Any help will be 
  appreciated.  Thanks!
   
  Carla
   
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