Moving apps?

[Rose]

Somehow my message app and my e-mail app changed places, I want the original
back but when I try to move them back something does not work right.  I
can't read the book and perform the actions at the same time for some
reason.  

 

Also, have not received any e-mail from this list recently.  Anyone out
there?  

 

 

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RE: New Member Intro and Help Needed Choosing iPhone Model

[Rose Combs]

I have to agree with this message, I started with a 4 and it took a couple
of weeks to do just the basics and not call friends at midnight because I
could not figure out how to stop the phone once it dialed the number in a
contact I was trying to edit or just look at, now I laugh at that.  It took
me another couple of months to start using about 95% of the features on the
phone, setting alarms, timers, working with the calendar and calculator,
using the memo recorder, downloading and playing a few games, nothing that
uses the game center, however.  I still don't use Game Center and I don't
subscribe to Twitter or Facebook because I would never be able to keep up
with a full time job, an ill husband and other duties that I need to take
care of during most days.  

 

I also use the Otterbox and once the 4 was put in it never came out again
until my husband lost it in the hospital, either it was stolen or it went
out in the laundry, it never came back but as soon as I heard the story I
made him deactivate it on our account.  My 4S is in an Otterbox and has not
been out of that case ever.  The Otterbox can take a few drops, I dropped
one of the phones in the hospital one evening and it just made a lot of
noise from that clip hitting the floor.  I accidently got tangled up in the
cord and pulled it off my desk once also.  

 

My husband got a 5 to replace my old 4 and it is lighter and I would like
that but I am not eligible for an upgrade until next year.  I have used the
5 once or twice to ANSER for my husband and showed him a few things and it
seems to be no different than my 4S as far as operating goes.  

 

The other thing I like about the case is the borders of the screen are
definitely discernible and that makes using the phone without any tactile
marking easier for me at least.  

 

I also like having Siri which the 4 did not have, saves me trying to text
one friend who would prefer texting to talking and who can send faster than
I can think, often I get three or four from her before I can even dictate
one back.  Only way I can keep up typing is with the Bluetooth keyboard
which I don't carry around so having the 4S has made my life a little easier
since she does a lot of driving for us, shopping etc.  Shopping via texting
is quite a hoot, happened once while I was at the hospital and she texted me
about every single item on my list.  My husband slept through it all but he
should have heard some of her questions!  I could never have kept up with
her without Siri's help.  I would have rather been with her to shop but,
although annoying, this method got the job I needed done finished.  

She should have called me but... 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Member Intro andHelp Needed Choosing iPhone Model

 

Ok, here's the deal.  iPhone not only comes with a screen reader but it also
comes with a screen magnification program as well.  I don't know beans about
zoomtext but I do know about the screen magnification.  The way it was
explained to me was like this.  Think of it as a portable hole.  You can
drag your portable hole all around the screen using your finger. Anything
inside the portable hole is magnified and you can also control how much
magnification you use.  These are already built in to the iPhone as well as
other Apple products.

 

The difference is, you aren't paying extra for it like you would with
others.

 

On to the phones.  They have a free phone.  It's the iPhone 4 with 8 GB.
The iPhone 4 is a fine phone.  It has both described above features as well
as support for a Braille display users here can describe it to you far
better then I can so I'll leave that to them.  

 

If you just want to get your feet wet and aren't willing to shell out any
more money then you are already going to for a talk, text, and data plan,
then the free phone makes sense.

 

With that having been said, there are very few folks out there who ever said
you know, I was happy with my old cell phone.

 

An 8 GB phone would still let you put plenty of apps on it, maybe a gig or 2
of music and even a few pictures of you, your dog, your wife, and your kids.

 

How hard is it to learn to use?  You've never struck me as being stupid and
we've known each other for some time.  Yes there is a relearning curve.  It
varies among folks as to how long that curve lasts.  Almost everybody gets
it in a few weeks to several months and there is no prize for how fast you
get it.  Even with the free phone you have to get a 24 month contract.  The
key here is, it's only 24 months, not the rest of your life.  The 2 years
I've had my iPhone 4 has gone by pretty quickly.  If I had to keep my iPhone
4 longer, I wouldn't cry to much because it's still a darn good phone.

 

On the other hand, if you decide you are jumping in the water with both
feet, I would recommend you buy the iPhone

RE: Tap See findings

[Rose Combs]

I still don't have much success, maybe it is because I have never been able
to see much more than bright lights, very bright lights.  I seem to get
horrible results with anything using the camera except for LookTel Money
Reader.  Even that will sometimes give me no results.  

 

So my question would be are those of you getting fairly good results people
who had some sight even if only in childhood?  Just curious how many who
have been totally blind since birth are using the app and getting or not
getting results.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tap Tap See findings

 

Cans seem to be the hardest but I've found that in general the seam of the
label should go on the left about at the 9 o'clock place and it may take a
few shots to get it right and it may require moving the iPhone closer or
further back.  I place my iPhone on the kitchen island standing up.  The can
to be examined is about a foot away from my iPhone.  To the right or behind
the phone is the kitchen window so light shines on the can's label.  I could
get a shot that says Hormel Chili.  Informative, but not much help so I
moved the phone a few inches closer and nailed it.  Hormel Chili no beans.

 

Boxes of pasta were far easier.  I could get it to identify the brand and
the style of pasta.  With bottles, I could get it to identify KC Master
peace barbecue sauce but it took 2 tries as the first time I had the bottle
facing backward.

 

Tap Tap for a free app is becoming one of my favorites.  

- Original Message - 

From: Andy Baracco <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:19 PM

Subject: Re: Repeating tap tap see results

 

Also, you need to make sure that the label is in the picture.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Repeating tap tap see results

I don't think the quality of the picture is entirely the issue but of course

it's a huge factor. If you've got a bottle of wine from a source the IQ 
Engine database doesn't know about, it's not going to be able to tell you 
the vintage and winery. This is why I'd like to be able to force a crowd 
soruce inquiry when needed.

Jonathan
On 4/02/2013, at 1:33 AM, Sandratomkins  
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>Using the ScanBox, I shot a bottle of wine and got the name, type and 
> year!! So, obviously, if the shot is good enough, more info is available. 
> mind you, this was more a picture of the label than the bottle itself, so 
> try again, this time a little close and, obviously, have the larger label 
> toward you.
>
>    Happy tippling! Sandy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2 Feb 2013, at 19:50, "Rose Combs"  wrote:
>
>> Well, it told me that I was looking at a computer screen, a can no matter
>> how I turned it, a wooden table and that my polo shirt was a black 
>> sweater,
>> not green and a bottle of perfume was air freshener, which may be 
>> somewhat
>> correct.  My bottle of cocktail sauce was a classic coke.  Well some
>> progress, it least it talking to me now.  The computer screen was correct

>> as
>> was the wooden table.  Hmm, dependable, will I will leave it up to the
>> reader to see how dependable it is for me at this point.  Why can't I do 
>> it
>> is the big question.  I can run computers, iPhone, all  sorts of stuff 
>> even
>> if it does not talk to me so why can't I get an app to identify anything 
>> or
>> take a picture of anything but my fingers?
>>
>> No I don't intentionally take pictures of my fingers on a regular basis 
>> but
>> I can tell you from what my nephew said, it was a nice picture of my
>> fingers, LOL.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Susan
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 1:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Repeating tap tap see results
>>
>> I wasn't thinking when I bropped a bunch of K cups in a canister, but it
>> distinguishes the brand name.  That was enough to help me figure out 
>> which
>> one I wanted.  I had Green Mountain and Folgers, and I prefer different
>> water levels.  It even told me I have a black dog, and my hubby had on a
>> gray shirt. I like this app.
>>
>> On 2/1/13, Rose Combs  wrote:
>>> I only wish I got results, only one I have gotten thus far is can but
>>> not what it was a can of.  However, I seemed to be doomed with camera
>>>

RE: Accessible Color identifier

[Rose Combs]

In the late 1970s my mother and stepfather had an argument about an outfit I
was wearing, my mom said it was blue (she should know she bought it) and my
stepfather swore it was green.  We were at a restaurant celebrating my third
anniversary I think and the argument between them went on mostly through
dinner.  My husband and I were trying hard not to laugh.  Well outside in
the car my stepfather had to admit that the outfit was blue but looked green
under the restaurant lighting.  I had not thought of this in a long time but
talking about lighting and color reminded me that even humans can get it
wrong.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Color identifier

These solutions work best when they have their own light source, as then the
lighting is controlled.  I have a dedicated color detector, and I recall
once when it said that a garment was navy blue, and my wife insisted it was
black.  She took it into a brightly lit room, and determined that it was
indeed dark blue.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Sherrie
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Color identifier

I downloaded one called Color ID which is free but it seems the colors
change as I move the phone.  After reading the descriptions of Color Visor
($4.99) and Colored Eye ($.99) I don't know that it is any worse than the
paid apps as changing colors seems to be a problem due to lighting.  It
would seem to me that the color apps would make the flash turn on like a
flashlight app does so the lighting would be dependable.  If that were the
case I would pay the money.  But I have been burned buying apps that someone
or other recommended only to find that they don't work for me at least. I
really like it when an app lets you try it for free so you can determine if
it works for you before putting out the money.

Sherrie



-Original Message-
From: Scott Edwards
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible Color identifier

I use colored eye which seems to work well

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 5, 2013, at 9:30 PM, "Lauren Simmons" 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Besides TapTapSee and such, is there an accessible color identifier 
> many of you have found useful and accessible? If you have a name of 
> such a utility I would apreciate knowing about it, so I can then 
> search for details in iTunes store. Thank you.
>
> LS
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RE: Dictation app

[Rose Combs]

When I had the 4 I used vokul, of all I tried it seemed to actually do the
best for me.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation app

Hi, Dragon dictate and/or vlingo are good.

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On 2/5/2013 1:58 PM, Reese wrote:
> Hi list:
>
> Anyone have a good dictation app to recommend until I can update my 
> phone to the 4s?  Currently using the 3GS.  Thanks!
>
> Reese
>
> Peachtree Radio is on iBlink radio.
> Now playing the best in R&B, Blues and Soft rock.  Its the new 
> Peachtree Radio.
> http://www.peachtreeradio.net.
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RE: Touch typing questions

[Rose Combs]

We tried touch typing here both my husband and myself, I made tons of errors
end up never getting a pass word in correctly and my husband turned  off
Voice Over it annoyed him so much.  I know I am in the minority here but I
prefer the standard typing mode, I type all day so sliding around all the
time just does not quite feel good to me and I am interested in typing on my
phone with the least amount of errors I can get.  We are all different.  I
only bring this up because you feel more comfortable with standard typing
you are probably not the only one who does.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Penny Reeder
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch typing questions

Hi, I just turned it on for my new IPhone 5.  From the home page, hit the
home button once to go to the Search page.  Then use the roter to find
typing mode.  Then with one finger swipe quickly to find the typing mode
choices, when you hear, "Touch Typing," tap twice, and it will be turned on.
Hope this helps.
Penny

On 2/7/13, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> Hi Jed,
>
> You need to get into an edit field, then use two fingers and twist 
> them until it says typing mode. Now swipe up and down to pick touch
typing.
>
> Call me!
>
> Jenn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jed Barton
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Touch typing questions
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm new to the group.  Just got my iphone yesterday and am loving it.
> Trying to figure out how to turn on touch typing as everyone has 
> bragged about it, but I can't find it in the menus.  Any ideas?
> I gotta say, tis touch screen navigation isn't all that bad.
>
> Sincerest Regards,
> Jed
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RE: Changing account info on the phone

[Rose Combs]

I don't know the answer since I used iTunes to change mine a few weeks ago.
I was able to do it alone but I did ask my husband to check it out before I
pressed submit.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Changing account info on the phone

I want to change my credit card info for itunes.
I haven't been able to access the store at all using my pc with jaws 11 for
a year or more. Jaws seems to read in other segments of itunes but not in
the store, most annoying. I wanted to change my credit card info but can't
access it through the pc. Can I do it on my phone and which app do I use the
app store or itunes itself. I loked in both and don't see any options for
changing account settings. Or do I have to purchase something using the
phone and then I'll be able to make changes?
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Tessa

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RE: Any List App

[Rose Combs]

I have the app but my friend did not and I have not really gotten into it, I
downloaded it, opened it had little luck or time to mess I deleted it off
the phone for now but it is still in iTunes so easy to put back when I have
time to answer.  

 

Tommy is in the hospital again, he has almost lived there for the past year
or more, long story and would rather discuss it privately.  

 

My regular address is: 

roseco...@q.com  

 

If you are interested.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any List App

 

Hi Rose.  First let me say it's nice hearing from you again.  I'm happy to
hear you and your husband are doing well.  One app you can try that works
very well is,"Any List"  The recipes tab doesn't seem to be accessible but
the grocery one certainly is.  You enter your items into the list and they
get categorized and if you don't like where the app places an item it's easy
enough to change and put in a category of your own choosing.  So far that's
no big deal but the nice thing it can do is where I'm going with this
because it sounds perfect for what you described.  You can email the grocery
list through the app to somebody else.  At the bottom of that message is a
link inviting that person to share the app with you.  All that person has to
do is to click that link and it takes them to the app store and shows them
the app.  If they download the app onto their iPhone of course, assuming
they have one, but then you and that person now share that list meaning as
you or they add or delete items on one list those changes are reflected on
the other list.  If this person always does your shopping it's perfect
because as soon as you make a change it's reflected in their list as well.
I'm trying to talk Suzanne into downloading the app because she always asks
what do we need at the store.  And as she thinks of items she needs and adds
them to the list, they  would be reflected on my copy.  She says she will
install it when she gets a day off and when she does, she spends it
sleeping.  She's been pulling 60 plus hours a week as is so you know how
that goes when your an RN.  Work-work-work sleep-sleep-sleep and maybe every
now and then you may find 5 minutes to stop off to pick up a few things on
the way home. LOL!  My regards to Tommy! and so nice to hear from you again!


- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs <mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:45 AM

Subject: RE: New Member Intro and Help Needed Choosing iPhone Model

 

I have to agree with this message, I started with a 4 and it took a couple
of weeks to do just the basics and not call friends at midnight because I
could not figure out how to stop the phone once it dialed the number in a
contact I was trying to edit or just look at, now I laugh at that.  It took
me another couple of months to start using about 95% of the features on the
phone, setting alarms, timers, working with the calendar and calculator,
using the memo recorder, downloading and playing a few games, nothing that
uses the game center, however.  I still don't use Game Center and I don't
subscribe to Twitter or Facebook because I would never be able to keep up
with a full time job, an ill husband and other duties that I need to take
care of during most days.  

 

I also use the Otterbox and once the 4 was put in it never came out again
until my husband lost it in the hospital, either it was stolen or it went
out in the laundry, it never came back but as soon as I heard the story I
made him deactivate it on our account.  My 4S is in an Otterbox and has not
been out of that case ever.  The Otterbox can take a few drops, I dropped
one of the phones in the hospital one evening and it just made a lot of
noise from that clip hitting the floor.  I accidently got tangled up in the
cord and pulled it off my desk once also.  

 

My husband got a 5 to replace my old 4 and it is lighter and I would like
that but I am not eligible for an upgrade until next year.  I have used the
5 once or twice to ANSER for my husband and showed him a few things and it
seems to be no different than my 4S as far as operating goes.  

 

The other thing I like about the case is the borders of the screen are
definitely discernible and that makes using the phone without any tactile
marking easier for me at least.  

 

I also like having Siri which the 4 did not have, saves me trying to text
one friend who would prefer texting to talking and who can send faster than
I can think, often I get three or four from her before I can even dictate
one back.  Only way I can keep up typing is with the Bluetooth keyboard
which I don't carry around so having the 4S has made my life a little easier
since she does a lot of driving for

RE: Tap See findings

[Rose Combs]

Well, I am congenitally blind, but I used the Optacon fairly well for years
without tracking problems, and they were amazed in my training since I read
braille left-handed only but I was reading about 60 words per minute a few
years ago.  



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap See findings

Photography by nature is a visual activity.  I do know blind photographers,
but they had usable vision at some point.  i recall when the Optacon was
introduced and how much trouble congenitally blind people had learning to
track in a straight line with the camera.  i know people who have the KNFB
reader, and even with all of the support it provides, I know many blind
persons who still can't get a good scan.  Blind people have to work extra
hard to learn what comes naturally to someone who can see.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Candy
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap See findings


Eileen, I think you hit the nail on the head.  I am totally blind, and have 
been so since birth.  I have no clu about taking a picture, and have had 
random results with the app.  Yet, I know it works because when my sighted 
husband takes the picture, it works fine.
I just need to keep practicing because I think it is an amazing app.



--
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 7:47 AM CST Sandra Heaton wrote:

>Hi Eileen,
>
>I'm sure you are right on this matter and I thank you for sharing that 
>experience with us.  I must admit, I do find it difficult keeping the phone

>still.  But Yes I will keep trying and persevering I got it once so I am 
>sure I can do it again.
>
>take care,
>
>
>Sandra
>Braille Greeting Cards
>www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Eileen Misrahi
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:29 AM
>  Subject: RE: Tap See findings
>
>
>  Hello Sandra, Alex, and Rose,
>
>
>
>  I apologize to all of those who have been blind since birth in regards to

> possibly never having the experience of taking a picture. I lost my sight 
> in my early forties to the level that I am at currently (light 
> perception). Prior to that photography was a hobby of mine and I was 
> usually the one in the family who took the pictures of the kids. That old 
> muscle memory came back when I began to use all of the object recognition 
> and OCR apps for the phone. The most essential steps in taking any picture

> is to center the objects, correct lighting, and keeping the camera as 
> still as you can. When using TapTapSee, I employ the principles that 
> Sandra Tompkins has explained so well when using any of the OCR apps. It 
> does take practice and lots of it. I encourage all to persevere with this 
> because I have received great results, which have assisted me in utilizing

> Looktel Recognizer. HTH.
>
>
>
>  Eileen
>
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Alex Stone
>  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:37 PM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: RE: Tap See findings
>
>
>
>  Sandra, I've been totally blind since birth too, and I feel the same as 
> you do. It has the potential to be a really useful app, but I'm not sure 
> it is quite yet.
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Alex
>
>
>
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sandra Heaton
>  Sent: 08 February 2013 23:21
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: Re: Tap See findings
>
>
>
>  Rose,
>
>
>
>  I have been totally blind since birth but it is hit and miss with me.  I 
> have to say I do get frustrated I have managed to do it a couple of times 
> but I do seem to be getting more misses but as the saying goes, practice 
> makes perfect and that's what you have to do I guess.
>
>
>
>  take care,
>
>
>
>
>
>  Sandra
>  Braille Greeting Cards
>  www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk
>
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: Keith Bundy
>
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
>Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:46 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Tap See findings
>
>
>
>Hi, Rose. I have been totally blind since birth. I have gotten results,

> but I do not always consistently have success. I think it is possible, but

> much tougher, for those of us who have never seen to learn how to focus a 
> camera to take pictures.
>
>
>
>Keith
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:53 AM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

RE: Touch typing questions

[Rose Combs]

We are probably the only two.  

I don't send e-mail on my phone, it has an e-mail account that only a couple
of people know about, I use it to send messages from work where I need to
enter contact info etc.  If I were not working where I had to get 100% of my
attention to what I am doing I might feel differently but as of this writing
I don't do Facebook, Twitter or receive a ton of e-mail on my phone, and I
discourage texting during my working hours.  It does not stop my husband or
one friend, unfortunately and I have near the end of a day when I am
involved in a report I need to finish before I leave turned off the phone
completely but I would rather not do that, I want a phone when I am at work,
mostly to stay connected with my husband who has been a frequent flyer in
the hospital.  I don't want a lot of messages, beeps, and other sounds
interrupting me during those hours.  

I could mess with do not disturb, I suppose but, it is easier not to do
those accounts and to keep my e-mail on the phone to a minimum since I don't
like typing on the keyboard all that much even after nearly two years, I
can, of course, but would rather do most of my communicating on my computer.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynda & Neema
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch typing questions

I tried both touch and standard too and found I like standard better also.

Lynda and Neema
- Original Message - 
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions


> We tried touch typing here both my husband and myself, I made tons of 
> errors
> end up never getting a pass word in correctly and my husband turned  off
> Voice Over it annoyed him so much.  I know I am in the minority here but I
> prefer the standard typing mode, I type all day so sliding around all the
> time just does not quite feel good to me and I am interested in typing on 
> my
> phone with the least amount of errors I can get.  We are all different.  I
> only bring this up because you feel more comfortable with standard typing
> you are probably not the only one who does.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Penny Reeder
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Touch typing questions
>
> Hi, I just turned it on for my new IPhone 5.  From the home page, hit the
> home button once to go to the Search page.  Then use the roter to find
> typing mode.  Then with one finger swipe quickly to find the typing mode
> choices, when you hear, "Touch Typing," tap twice, and it will be turned 
> on.
> Hope this helps.
> Penny
>
> On 2/7/13, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi Jed,
>>
>> You need to get into an edit field, then use two fingers and twist
>> them until it says typing mode. Now swipe up and down to pick touch
> typing.
>>
>> Call me!
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Touch typing questions
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I'm new to the group.  Just got my iphone yesterday and am loving it.
>> Trying to figure out how to turn on touch typing as everyone has
>> bragged about it, but I can't find it in the menus.  Any ideas?
>> I gotta say, tis touch screen navigation isn't all that bad.
>>
>> Sincerest Regards,
>> Jed
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RE: I don't see all my podcasts in downcast

[Rose Combs]

I handled this by searching in downcast for the ones I had and them
subscribing.  I never ever use the full url, too much typing and too much of
a possibility to gt it wrong so I typed in specific key words in my search
box and let Downcast find them.  
I did not even try to import or export.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I don't see all my podcasts in downcast

Downcast will let me export but the other app doesn't seem to have that
option. Also, when I get the open with prompt from the email, it doesn't
give me the option of opening in the native podcast app. So I am still stuck
with some podcasts in downcast and some in the podcast app. Though I'd
prefer to use downcast, I would use the other app instead if only I could
get everything in one spot.

Thanks anyway.

Kim


On 2/11/13, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If the other podcast app has the ability to export your feeds as an 
> OPML file, do that, and email the file to yourself. Get the message on 
> your ipHone, and choose to open the oPML file in Downcast. All your 
> podcasts will then be imported.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Kimberly  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I subscribed to a couple of podcasts with the native podcast app then 
>> I bought downcast. The problem is I don't see all my subscriptions 
>> within downcast and in fact a few of the podcasts don't even show up 
>> on the list one can choose from.
>>
>> Is it possible to get all my podcasts in one app, preferrably downcast?
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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RE: Touch typing questions

[Rose Combs]

No I don't have a Speed dots protector, I thought about it but then decided
not to do it.  The keyboard takes up about the bottom one-third of the
screen when the keyboard is available.  The letters appear as they would on
a regular keyboard, except punctuation and numbers are hidden under the more
button in the lower left corner.  The Otterbox Defender has a ridge
around the whole screen so when I say left lower corner it is right against
the bevel.  Standard typing is how the phone is set up, you double tap or
split tap to type a letter, tap twice, or find the letter you want, then tap
with another finger.  The touch typing mode has you sliding all over the
place and as soon as you lift a finger the letter spoken is typed.  Some say
it is faster but I found that after a week I was making a lot more mistakes,
so I went back to standard mode.  



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions

Hi, Rose.
You might increase that to three if you explain how standard typing works.
I'd like to try doing it. Do you have a screen protector like the one
SpeedDots offers to help you identify where the keyboard is?
Thanks,
Dani

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions

We are probably the only two.  

I don't send e-mail on my phone, it has an e-mail account that only a couple
of people know about, I use it to send messages from work where I need to
enter contact info etc.  If I were not working where I had to get 100% of my
attention to what I am doing I might feel differently but as of this writing
I don't do Facebook, Twitter or receive a ton of e-mail on my phone, and I
discourage texting during my working hours.  It does not stop my husband or
one friend, unfortunately and I have near the end of a day when I am
involved in a report I need to finish before I leave turned off the phone
completely but I would rather not do that, I want a phone when I am at work,
mostly to stay connected with my husband who has been a frequent flyer in
the hospital.  I don't want a lot of messages, beeps, and other sounds
interrupting me during those hours.  

I could mess with do not disturb, I suppose but, it is easier not to do
those accounts and to keep my e-mail on the phone to a minimum since I don't
like typing on the keyboard all that much even after nearly two years, I
can, of course, but would rather do most of my communicating on my computer.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynda & Neema
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch typing questions

I tried both touch and standard too and found I like standard better also.

Lynda and Neema
----- Original Message -
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions


> We tried touch typing here both my husband and myself, I made tons of 
> errors end up never getting a pass word in correctly and my husband 
> turned  off Voice Over it annoyed him so much.  I know I am in the 
> minority here but I prefer the standard typing mode, I type all day so 
> sliding around all the time just does not quite feel good to me and I 
> am interested in typing on my phone with the least amount of errors I 
> can get.  We are all different.  I only bring this up because you feel 
> more comfortable with standard typing you are probably not the only 
> one who does.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Penny Reeder
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Touch typing questions
>
> Hi, I just turned it on for my new IPhone 5.  From the home page, hit 
> the home button once to go to the Search page.  Then use the roter to 
> find typing mode.  Then with one finger swipe quickly to find the 
> typing mode choices, when you hear, "Touch Typing," tap twice, and it 
> will be turned on.
> Hope this helps.
> Penny
>
> On 2/7/13, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi Jed,
>>
>> You need to get into an edit field, then use two fingers and twist 
>> them until it says typing mode. Now swipe up and down to pick touch
> typing.
>>
>> Call me!
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:21 AM
>>

RE: Touch typing questions

[Rose Combs]

Yes, the sliding after being on a standard keyboard all day just did not
seem to work for me, I need to tap even if they are not real keys.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions

The way standard typing works, is that you double tap on a letter to input
it. With touch typing, you slide your finger around to the letter you want,
then lift your finger.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions

Hi, Rose.
You might increase that to three if you explain how standard typing works.
I'd like to try doing it. Do you have a screen protector like the one
SpeedDots offers to help you identify where the keyboard is?
Thanks,
Dani

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions

We are probably the only two.  

I don't send e-mail on my phone, it has an e-mail account that only a couple
of people know about, I use it to send messages from work where I need to
enter contact info etc.  If I were not working where I had to get 100% of my
attention to what I am doing I might feel differently but as of this writing
I don't do Facebook, Twitter or receive a ton of e-mail on my phone, and I
discourage texting during my working hours.  It does not stop my husband or
one friend, unfortunately and I have near the end of a day when I am
involved in a report I need to finish before I leave turned off the phone
completely but I would rather not do that, I want a phone when I am at work,
mostly to stay connected with my husband who has been a frequent flyer in
the hospital.  I don't want a lot of messages, beeps, and other sounds
interrupting me during those hours.  

I could mess with do not disturb, I suppose but, it is easier not to do
those accounts and to keep my e-mail on the phone to a minimum since I don't
like typing on the keyboard all that much even after nearly two years, I
can, of course, but would rather do most of my communicating on my computer.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lynda & Neema
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch typing questions

I tried both touch and standard too and found I like standard better also.

Lynda and Neema
- Original Message -
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions


> We tried touch typing here both my husband and myself, I made tons of 
> errors end up never getting a pass word in correctly and my husband 
> turned  off Voice Over it annoyed him so much.  I know I am in the 
> minority here but I prefer the standard typing mode, I type all day so 
> sliding around all the time just does not quite feel good to me and I 
> am interested in typing on my phone with the least amount of errors I 
> can get.  We are all different.  I only bring this up because you feel 
> more comfortable with standard typing you are probably not the only 
> one who does.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Penny Reeder
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Touch typing questions
>
> Hi, I just turned it on for my new IPhone 5.  From the home page, hit 
> the home button once to go to the Search page.  Then use the roter to 
> find typing mode.  Then with one finger swipe quickly to find the 
> typing mode choices, when you hear, "Touch Typing," tap twice, and it 
> will be turned on.
> Hope this helps.
> Penny
>
> On 2/7/13, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi Jed,
>>
>> You need to get into an edit field, then use two fingers and twist 
>> them until it says typing mode. Now swipe up and down to pick touch
> typing.
>>
>> Call me!
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Jed Barton
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Touch typing questions
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I'm new to the group.  Just got my iphone yesterday and am loving it.
>> Trying to figure out how to turn on touch typing as everyone has 
>> bragged about it, but I can't find i

RE: Touch typing questions

[Rose Combs]

I prefer to do most e-mail on my computer.  Maybe if I had an iPad mini or
something I might feel differently but, since I work at a job that requires
me to give 100% of my time to that job, I don't want a load of junk coming
in and, I am not really that comfortable with phone e-mail.  My husband and
one close friend are the only ones who have the Gmail account name and if it
isn't from one of the three of us it generally is deleted unread.  Same with
my cloud mail, actually I am the only person who has that one and I only
expect cloud messages on that account.  I could get mail from this list if I
set up my phone for it but I would not dream of doing the volume of mail it
generates on the phone.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandra Heaton
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch typing questions



Hi,

No, make that three because I tried both and I prefer the standard typing
also.  Like you Rose I don't like to get tons of email on my phone although
I will occasionally do email on the phone but not all the time I don't think
I could cope.

Take care,
Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

- Original Message -
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Touch typing questions


> We are probably the only two.
>
> I don't send e-mail on my phone, it has an e-mail account that only a 
> couple
> of people know about, I use it to send messages from work where I need to
> enter contact info etc.  If I were not working where I had to get 100% of 
> my
> attention to what I am doing I might feel differently but as of this 
> writing
> I don't do Facebook, Twitter or receive a ton of e-mail on my phone, and I
> discourage texting during my working hours.  It does not stop my husband 
> or
> one friend, unfortunately and I have near the end of a day when I am
> involved in a report I need to finish before I leave turned off the phone
> completely but I would rather not do that, I want a phone when I am at 
> work,
> mostly to stay connected with my husband who has been a frequent flyer in
> the hospital.  I don't want a lot of messages, beeps, and other sounds
> interrupting me during those hours.
>
> I could mess with do not disturb, I suppose but, it is easier not to do
> those accounts and to keep my e-mail on the phone to a minimum since I 
> don't
> like typing on the keyboard all that much even after nearly two years, I
> can, of course, but would rather do most of my communicating on my 
> computer.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Lynda & Neema
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Touch typing questions
>
> I tried both touch and standard too and found I like standard better also.
>
> Lynda and Neema
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rose Combs" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Touch typing questions
>
>
>> We tried touch typing here both my husband and myself, I made tons of
>> errors
>> end up never getting a pass word in correctly and my husband turned  off
>> Voice Over it annoyed him so much.  I know I am in the minority here but 
>> I
>> prefer the standard typing mode, I type all day so sliding around all the
>> time just does not quite feel good to me and I am interested in typing on
>> my
>> phone with the least amount of errors I can get.  We are all different. 
>> I
>> only bring this up because you feel more comfortable with standard typing
>> you are probably not the only one who does.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Penny Reeder
>> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Touch typing questions
>>
>> Hi, I just turned it on for my new IPhone 5.  From the home page, hit the
>> home button once to go to the Search page.  Then use the roter to find
>> typing mode.  Then with one finger swipe quickly to find the typing mode
>> choices, when you hear, "Touch Typing," tap twice, and it will be turned
>> on.
>> Hope this helps.
>> Penny
>>
>> On 2/7/13, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> Hi Jed,
>>>
>>> You need to get into an edit field, then use two fingers and twist
>>> them until it says typing mode. Now swipe up and down to pick touch
>> typing.
>>>
>

RE: Touch typing questions

[Rose Combs]

My husband and I have tried thumbs a few times but for me it is usually the
index finger on either hand, oddly enough, since I am extremely right-handed
it is more often my left hand doing the typing, I was surprised by that as
about all I can do left-handed is read braille and pick up things and type
of course.  I figured I'd use my right to type on the phone but I hve
noticed that I hold the phone in my right hand most often, hearing loss in
left ear so I talk with it in my right hand and it just seems to fit there
better while the left handles keyboard and keypad.  What is really odd about
this is that when I use a standard telephone, I hold the phone to my ear
with the left hand and use the keypad with the right almost all the time.
Guess my wiring is all crossed up since the ear problem, at an earlier time
I never held a phone to my right ear, never did much but hold it with the
left hand.  Geesh, I can't even comb my hair left-handed so it is odd how it
wants to take over typing on the iPhone.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch typing questions

Split tapping also works in standard typing. This is where you find a
character with one finger and while leaving your finger on that character,
tap the screen with another finger. This is what I prefer when I'[m typing
with one finger, while I like touch typing when using my two thumbs.

On 12/02/13 16:45, Jennie Facer wrote:
> The way standard typing works, is that you double tap on a letter to 
> input it. With touch typing, you slide your finger around to the 
> letter you want, then lift your finger.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Touch typing questions
> 
> Hi, Rose.
> You might increase that to three if you explain how standard typing works.
> I'd like to try doing it. Do you have a screen protector like the one 
> SpeedDots offers to help you identify where the keyboard is?
> Thanks,
> Dani
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Rose Combs
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Touch typing questions
> 
> We are probably the only two.  
> 
> I don't send e-mail on my phone, it has an e-mail account that only a 
> couple of people know about, I use it to send messages from work where 
> I need to enter contact info etc.  If I were not working where I had 
> to get 100% of my attention to what I am doing I might feel 
> differently but as of this writing I don't do Facebook, Twitter or 
> receive a ton of e-mail on my phone, and I discourage texting during 
> my working hours.  It does not stop my husband or one friend, 
> unfortunately and I have near the end of a day when I am involved in a 
> report I need to finish before I leave turned off the phone completely 
> but I would rather not do that, I want a phone when I am at work, 
> mostly to stay connected with my husband who has been a frequent flyer 
> in the hospital.  I don't want a lot of messages, beeps, and other sounds
interrupting me during those hours.
> 
> I could mess with do not disturb, I suppose but, it is easier not to 
> do those accounts and to keep my e-mail on the phone to a minimum 
> since I don't like typing on the keyboard all that much even after 
> nearly two years, I can, of course, but would rather do most of my
communicating on my computer.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Lynda & Neema
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Touch typing questions
> 
> I tried both touch and standard too and found I like standard better also.
> 
> Lynda and Neema
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rose Combs" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Touch typing questions
> 
> 
>> We tried touch typing here both my husband and myself, I made tons of 
>> errors end up never getting a pass word in correctly and my husband 
>> turned  off Voice Over it annoyed him so much.  I know I am in the 
>> minority here but I prefer the standard typing mode, I type all day 
>> so sliding around all the time just does not quite feel good to me 
>> and I am interested in typing on my phone with the least amount of 
>> errors I can get.  We are all dif

RE: Copying the about section of settings

[Rose Combs]

Also, I know from experience after my husband lost the iPhone 4, the phone
number to that account is all you will need for them to deactivate the
phone.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Copying the about section of settings

Hi max,

The easiest here would be to bring up the About page and then take a
screenshot of the page by simultaneously pressing the Power and Home
buttons. This picture will be saved in your camera roll and you can then
access it on your computer for printing either in your Photostream folder if
you have that set up or by connecting your iPhone and copying it over.
If you have an airprint enabled printer you could print it directly from the
phone on a 4x6 size picture which would be easy to carry in your wallet if
you foldet it once or twice.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Agent086b
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:03 PM
To: iPhone
Subject: Copying the about section of settings

Hello all,
I wish to save a copy of the about section of settings on an iPhone5. I have
done this with my previous phone and then printed it but can't remember how
I accomplished this. My reason for wanting to do this it to carry this copy
in my wallet incase the phone is stolen. I can then advise my carrier the
information and they can block the phone.
Thanks as always for any help.
Max.

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RE: Voice Typing

[Rose Combs]

When I had the plain 4 I used Vokul a lot.  It worked some of the others did
not seem to do so well.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Typing

Hi. Another good app like Siri that I have is called Voice Answer. I payed
$2.99 for it and love it. Actually, I did a demo of it a few weeks ago in a
podcast called the Quick Learning Techie Show. You can listen to it at
http://qlts.edifiedaccess.info.

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RE: Nook- what is accessible and what is not?

[Rose Combs]

If I want to sign up for a Nook account using the computer, where do I need
to go?  I was going to do this when it first came out but then family
illness stopped me.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nook- what is accessible and what is not?

 

The stand-alone Nook reader is inaccessible. The Nook reader app is fully
accessible. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 14/02/2013, at 10:49, "Don & Cher Bosch" 
wrote:

I thought that the Nook reader was supposed to be inaccessible, right? But
from reading messages on this list, apparently there is a Nook app which is
formatted to be accessible? 

 

Needing basic Nook remedial education here ;)

Cher

 

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RE: iPhone 5 Contacts Icon and Problem Moving to Desktop Page 2

[Rose Combs]

Contacts are on newer phones after IOS 5 located in the utilities folder.
You can also open the phone app and they are on the third tab.  On the 4 and
4S  the utilities folder is on page 2, on the 5 it is near the dock at the
bottom of the screen if you have not changed anything.  

I was messing with my husband's 5 a few days ago and he could not find
contacts either, but I did.  Not eligible for an upgrade but I do like the
slimmer phone.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPHone 5 Contacts Icon and Problem Moving to Desktop Page 2

You can also double tap on the Page 1 of 2 button to get to the next page,
and as Anna says, there is a Contacts app on your phone somewhere.
I don't recall where it is on a virgin phone any more, since I tucked mine
away in a folder.

On 15/02/13 09:17, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Flick left with three fingers to move to page 2, and right with three
fingers to move back to page 1. If you flick right again, or press Home from
page 1, you'll be on a search screen. Type Contacts, and your iPHone will
find the Contacts app. perhaps it's in a folder; if that's the case, the
search will tell you which folder it's in, which should help you find it
next time.
> 
> Or if you have Siri, hold down Home, and say, "Open Contacts."
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:51 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
>> I know these are really basic questions but I'm an iPhone newbie so
hopefully you'll cut me some slack.
>>  
>>  . I just synced my Outlook contacts and calendar with my iPhone but
I'll be darned if I can find a Contacts icon on my iPhone's main screen with
which to access the contacts. I know at least part of the sync was
successful since I have calendar items under that icon. How do I review my
phone's contacts?
>>  . The apps icon sits on desktop page 2 of my iPhone 5 but I'm having
a lot of difficulty getting to that second page. I found the page dots at
the bottom of the screen where it says page 1 and swipe up or down to change
page selection but when I swipe, nothing happens. I have to turn VoiceOver
off and then swipe left or right as a sighted person would do to get to the
second page. Any suggestions on an easier method or what I might be doing
wrong?
>>  
>> Thanks for your help.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.

[Rose Waagan]

I go through my phases of posting and not posting on this list, but I do have 
to chime in here. People have had the misconception that jailbreaking is 
illegal in the midst of a thread where someone has asked an innocent  question 
about jailbreaking. This has then been followed by a moderator clarifying the 
point that yes, it is legal and can therefore be talked about here. I 
understand that those who have posted these messages are only looking out for 
the reputation of this group. but said messages were annoying to read. But, 
that last sentence is my personal opinion, and I will keep further comment on 
the subject to myself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I think a list dedicated to jail breaking is a good idea, but I don't
> recall any heated discussions on this list about jail breaking or anyone
> making sweeping accusations or statements about the legality of jail
> breaking. There was a brief discussion when the ruling came out making
> the unauthorized unlocking of an iPhone illegal, but like I said, I
> don't recall any such discussion around jail breaking.
> 
> On 15/02/13 23:02, Shane Davidson wrote:
>> Hello all;
>> 
>> I know I don’t post much, but I hope what I have to say is taken to heart.
>> 
>> After seing what I considered a rather heated discussion of jailbreaking
>> and a couple of members making sweeping judgmental accusations about the
>> legality of same subject, I’ve created a list especially for
>> jailbreaking, discussing it, doing it, getting help if you bust it,
>> jailbreak app recommendations, etc.
>> 
>> This will I hope allow for discussion of this rather nifty subject, and
>> prevent the moderation team on this list from feeling like there
>> allowing illegal activity.
>> 
>> You may subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
>> 
>> jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net
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>> 
>> And then replying to the confirmation message.
>> 
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>> 
>> I hope to see some of you there.
>> 
>> Sincerely;
>> 
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>> 
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RE: Fleksy is now free

[Rose Combs]

I bought it the day it was released, $14.95 or so, then I tried it and never
got the hang of it.  Gave my 4 to my husband, he tried it, never got the
hang of it.  So I figure I supported an app that would help others if not
me.  

Siri is much easier.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now free

I waited as well and have no clue as how to use this app but I figure I can
ask here if I really get stuck.
- Original Message -
From: "Tess" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Fleksy is now free


>I would have to agree, we spend money that we didn't have too and now 
>to see  it has gone free?
> Yeah, it sucks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Wil James
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Fleksy is now free
>
> Who doesn't?  I think he's aggravated because the app has gone free.  
> I can see both sides of the coin here though.
>
> With Fleksy going free, he feels like he got ripped off.  On the other 
> hand, I waited and didn't purchase fleksy because with the lack of it 
> being among my keyboards, I didn't feel the need to purchase it.  With 
> this product now free, it is my gain to use it.
>
> Good things come to those who wait.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ricardo Walker [mailto:rwalker...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now free
>
> You don't like free apps?
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>
> On Feb 16, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>
>> This is the kind of thing that really pisses me off.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:05 PM
>> To: viphone
>> Cc: A-IOS
>> Subject: Fleksy is now free
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Fleksy has gone free.  Here goes the release.
>>
> http://blog.fleksy.com/post/43160706356/state-of-touch-typing-fleksy-g
> oes-fr
> ee
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
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RE: Question.

[Rose Combs]

So, they make it a quadruple click home to turn on Voice-over.  Probably not
but... seems reasonable to me, at any rate this should not change in the
immediate future and I think another solution for us to do this
independently could be found.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question.

I don't think that's an actual danger here. There's no way that the whole
concept of Voiceover could be removed by a compeeting company.
The idea of providing access is just too basic. However, I am a bit worried
that something like the trippleclick home command to turn on and off
accessibility features could be removed. That in itself would be horrid
enough.

On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
> That won't happen. What may happen, if Samsung is successful, is 
> triple-click home will be disabled so you would not be able to turn VO 
> on and off independently.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 24/02/2013, at 10:52, "anita"  wrote:
>
>> Hi List,
>> If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't 
>> accessible to us, then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak 
>> isn't anything I want to do!
>> Anita
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RE: Advancing through a Chapter with the New Audible App

[Rose Combs]

One thing I truly like is the speed access, I always had a lot of trouble
setting mine if I wanted a change and now the choices are right there, just
tap one.  

I'd prefer that the chapter playing be shown, so that you would know if you
want to go back to the beginning of that chapter or back two three etc.
Otherwise I am quite happy with the app.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Advancing through a Chapter with the New Audible App

Hi Craig,

Yes, at this point the functionality to fast forward is gone unless you use
a headset or Bluetooth keyboard. On a headset like Apple Earpods you can
still double press and hold the middle button and it will fast forward or,
on a Bluetooth keyboard, press and hold F9.

Alternatively you can go to the "Chapters and Bookmarks" page, where all the
chapters of the part of the book that you are listening to are listed. While
the book is playing you can double tap on any of them and the playback
position will jump to the beginning of that chapter. If I want to rewind
quite a bit because maybe I fell asleep without setting the sleep timer, I
just double tap on the chatpers until I recognize the start of one. Then I
double tap on the next one, close the Chapters and Bookmarks page and then
use the Jump Back button which is still there. I have changed the jump
interval to 1 minute instead of 30 seconds in the settings and since most
Audible books have chapter by chapter navigation and most chapters are
rarely very long it's pretty quick to find a place again.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advancing through a Chapter with the New Audible App

Greetings to the list.

I have not yet updated the Audible app to its latest version.  I believe the
"rewind" and "fast forward" buttons have been removed from the latest
version of the app.  Does this mean that there is no longer an easy way to
advance in a chapter?  I rarely use the "fast forward"
button, but it is sometimes helpful, hence, my question.

Thanks for all help.

Craig

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RE: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

[Rose Combs]

I am not trying to hijack a thread, this is related.  I won't be able to
attend the online meeting, so would anyone who does at least  one person
send up a summary of the discussion.  I will be at the hospital visiting
with my husband after I am done working.  

 

Someone could also e-mail me at 

roseco...@q.com 

if that is preferred.  Only mail from this list goes to the address at the
top of my message, I may not see a private response from there for weeks.  

 

Thanks to anyone who can fulfill this request.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Dean
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013
Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

 

Years ago I bought the human ware Trekker which cost over twelve hundred
dollars. Considering the freedom it gave me, I still think it was worth
every penny. 





Unfortunately, so many apps are so inexpensive that when one appears with a
higher prize tag, many of us get a little sticker shock. 





If this app proves to be as good as I hope, I will buy it no matter what the
costs. 


Chuck (mobile)

Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 


On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:36 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
wrote:

The one thing to keep in mind once the price is announced is how much is
this app worth to some of us. Remember that specific installs for the
braille note and braille cents products cost more than $600. Also remember
that many commercial GPS apps for the iPhone itself can cost anywhere from
$25-$55. I have no idea what the price for this app will be, however I do
know that once that price is announced if people don't like it there will
definitely be a lot of vocalization from peoples opinions. I only say this
because any time and accessibility app is announced in that price is more
than five dollars, people seem to make a big deal over it. I can look
through the archives and discussions of the access notetaker app,
blindsquare, Fleksy, Sendero's Look Around app, and the various daisy
readers Have mostly initially been met with criticism over the price. Some
people will purchase the app despite the cost because they want to support
the developer. Others will purchase the app because it is worth it to them.
And still others might wait for the app to go on sale before they make a
purchase. My purchasing history shows that depending on the app in question
I could fall into any of those categories. Fleksy and blindsquare were apps
which I purchased only after they went on sale. Yet voice dream reader and
looktel recognizer were apps I purchased at full price. And finally, apps
light digit-eyes and read2go our ones which I have not purchased and don't
intend to. So my only point in writing this message is to remind everyone,
including myself, that no matter what the price of a new app is, we will
have to decide for ourselves if it is really worth it to us considering our
personal needs and the features contained in the app.

 

Cheers!


On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi List,

 

This does indeed sound very promising and I especially think one of the best
news about this is that they use both Navteq and OSM maps as well as POI's
from Navteq, Foursquare and OSM. This should really provide very good and
up-to-date map and POI information.

 

Maybe we can all have a few less apps on the phone since this one will most
likely make some others redundant.

 

I also would imagine that since Seeing-Eye is involved in funding the
project that the price for the app maybe more reasonable than we all may
think.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:02 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Fwd: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013
Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

 

I wasn't  sure if this had been seen on this list: 

From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org
[mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM
To: 'Kim Casey'
Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero
products, and remote CSUN access!

 

Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 years
of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all Sendero
GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the
beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully
accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit
us at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for
a Test Flight as soon as it is available.

 

About Seeing Eye GPS

 

Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a
guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two
pioneers in their fiel

RE: Audible.com App

[Rose Combs]

No, I just tapped the selection I wished and at the right time it faded out.


 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Borne
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audible.com App

 

Hello all,

Recently, Audible.com updated their iPhone app.  The app includes a sleep
timer that will allow for listening but will automatically turn off the book
after the desired amount of time (e.g., 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes,
etc.).  One would choose the desired amount of time with a one finger flick
to a combo box.

After the recent update, the sleep mode button is not located in the lower
left of the play screen.  When clicking on it to open, the time choices are
now listed and one performs a a hold and tap to select the desired time.
However, the device does not turn off the book in the desired time.  I've
tried several different ways to get it to recognize the sleep time, but it
doesn't seem to work.

Is anyone else having similar problems?  If not, what am I doing
incorrectly?

Thank you,

Craig

 

 

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RE: Wired Single Earphones Recommendation

[Rose Combs]

I found one at Best Buy several years ago, it had a mike and volume up and
down but it only had one ear thing.  

Wait, it may have been the Verizon store, I was to both stores in the same
day but, I really do think it was best Buy because I know I took two
different ones back to Verizon because they kept falling off while I was
testing in the parking lot.  

 

Sorry, I don't have that one any longer as it shorted out  so I don't know
its model number or anything.  

 

Oh, I recently accidently threw my iPhone 4 ear buds in the washer and
dryer, now only one side works.  It may be a while before I can replace
them.  

At least I did not launder the phone!  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wired Single EarEarphones Recommendation

 

This may sound odd but I'm looking for a recommendation for a wired
single-ear earphone for use with my iPhone 5. I'm not looking to spend a lot
of money (less than $50) but I would appreciate decent quality not unlike
what I'm getting with the earpods that came with the iPhone 5. I'm
interested in a single ear model since I would like to have my other ear
available to stay attuned to what's going on around me. I'm not really
interested in bluetooth due to its cost and battery requirements.

 

I tried the Apple store but didn't come across anything. It would be really
nice to get something that has a mic and  remote and volume up and down
buttons like the earpods but I don't think such a thing exists in a wired,
single-ear model.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Does a 2 finger double tap end a Skype call

[Rose Combs]

I will soon be a new user to Skype on an iPhone, what do I need to know to
get started, my nephew suggested this because he uses it a lot to save his
minutes but I have not used Skype since bout 2007 on a computer, with less
than stellar results, once the reason I was using it was gone I stopped
using it and it is not on this computer.  I have the GW Micro product but
have never opened or used it on the computer.  

I am not sure if I want a lot of stuff sending me messages which is one
reason I have not even begun to attempt twitter or Facebook, I have to be
pretty intense at my job and have been dealing with family illness, usually
I do feel a bit disconnected but I don't want to be inundated with stuff I
just cannot keep up with, sometimes I do wish I had at least Twitter access
but, so far I have not caved in there.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does a 2 finger double tap end a Skype call

Hi Irene. I find Skype is much easier to handle if you go into Notification
Center and set the notification  style to alert, rather than banner. This
way, when a Skype call comes in, no matter what app you happen to be working
in at the time, a dialog will pop up with buttons to easily get to Skype.

Jonathan

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RE: ITunes Questions

[Rose Combs]

Actually, I did the upgrade and since I enabled the side bar it works mostly
like the old version for my purposes, and about 80% of what I use it for is
backup or purchases.  It is a lot easier for me to find an app and read
about it on the computer.  

 

Using Jaws 14, Windows 7, and IE 9.  

 

I have the podcasts on my phone in Downcast and listened to part of one
before being interrupted, need to get back and finished them off someday.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rocket
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes Questions

 

I am glad i haven't upgraded my itunes yet on my windows 7 machine.
Everything is so easy to find in itunes 10.6 that i will hold off on my
upgrade. The latest and greatest thing is not always as great as advertised.


 

Marco the rocket 


On 2013-03-06, at 22:04, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tom,

 

Control+S is the command to "Show Sidebar", you can also go to the View menu
with Alt+V and arrow down to where it says Show Sidebar, then press enter.
If you go to the View menu and it says "Hide Sidebar" then you already have
the sidebar visible and if you do a Control+S it will hide it, the shortcut
key is a toggle.

 

It is easiest to use F6 to find the sidebar, once youa re on it, Jaws will
say "Sources Tree View".

 

I actually prefer now not to show the sidebar. If I want to change from the
music library to the books library or the apps library I either use the
shortcuts, Control+1 for music, Control+2  for movies, Control+3 for TV
Shows, Control+6 for Books and Control+7 for Apps.

Control+4 and Control+5 don't do anything in my setup and if you, for
example, uncheck Movies in the Preferences, Control+2 will not do anything.

Another way to navigate to those areas is to use Control+Shift+F to jump
into the "Search Library" edit field, then tab twice and you are on Music if
your music library is what has focus. Press enter or space and a treeview
opens where you can now arrow down to movies, Books, Apps etc.

 

I never thought of iTunes as all that bad and I like iTunes 11 even better
since it seems to be somewhat faster and more efficient. However, I believe
Jaws 14 definitely will give you the best performance and, if you haven't
done so already, I highly recommend you listen to the December and January
FS Casts Jonathan did. His 2-part series on iTunes 11 with Jaws 14
definitely helps in understanding iTunes and how to make the best of it. You
can find the podcasts on the Freedom Scientific website under FS Casts.

 

As for your girl-friends iPhone not showing up, I can't explain it, if I
enable the sidebar and connect my iPhone it shows up under Devices as it
always has. If I hide the sidebar which, as I said before, I prefer, I find
the "iPhone" button as follows:

I press Control+Shift+F to go to the Search Library edit field.

I press F6 once to jump to the first drop-down list of the column browser
which is Genre. Of course that assumes you have the column browser enabled.

I then Shift+Tab twice and I'm on the "iPhone" button, enter or space will
activate it.

I then have all the usual buttons like Summary, Info, Apps, Tones etc. which
I can check to manage the various sync aspects of iTunes with my iPhone.

 

The column browser, by the way, can only be enabled if you check the "Songs"
button, it is greyed out if artists, albums or genres are selected.

 

 

Hope this helps,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITunes Questions

 

Hi,

I'm going to preface my post by saying that I really hate ITunes with a
purple passion and think that it's a royal pain in the behind. Be that as it
may, I realize that I have to put up with it, so, toward that end, I have
some questions.

 

My girlfriend and I both have ITunes version 11.something-or-other on our
computers and we can't seem to get to the sources tree view consistently and
easily.  Is there a keyboard command that will consistently make it visible
and bring focus to it?

 

Second, on my Windows XP machine, I can see my iPhone 4 listed in the
sources tree view when it's connected.  On my girlfriend's machine running
Windows 7, however, even though her iPhone 4 is connected and it syncs, the
phone is not visible in the sources tree view.  Why is that and how can we
fix the problem.  Both of our iPhone 4's are running IOS 6.1.2.   

There are other issues regarding her ITunes library, but I won't get into
those right now.  

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Tom

 

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RE: New Skype Update is in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

Looks like I got lucky and got the updated version this morning, March 8,
but, I have not opened it up yet, just read the blurb from iTunes.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New Skype Update is in the App Store

 

Hi Listers,

 

There is a new Skype update, here are the 4 things they mention in the
"What's New" section:

 

Beautiful New Calling Experience

Mark all your recent chats as read with just a few taps

General Fixes and Improvements

One-to-One chats now appear in the correct order

 

I just installed the new update and had a quick look and I don't see any
major issues. The DialPad is still working fine and if you are in the Recent
tab there is now a new button at the top right called "Tick". If you double
tap it you are asked if you want to mark all recent chats as read and you
can also choose "Yes, don't ask again" which means the next time  you double
tap on the Tick button it will just go ahead and mark all recent chats as
read.

 

When you are on a call it appears the bottom row of buttons has been
rearranged a bit. The End Call button now seems to be by itself just above
the Home Key which is nice because it's very easy to find it.

Right above it are now the Speaker, Mute, DialPad and Show Options buttons. 

If you want to switch to speakerphone just double tap on "Speaker" it will
then say that it is selected and you can now actually flick left and get to
"Earpiece" and "Speakerphone", double tap on Speakerphone and the call will
switch to speakerphone.

I think in previous versions you had to find these buttons by sliding your
finger around after tapping on the button.

 

I think it's safe to upgrade in any case, but if you want extra insurance
you can always make a copy of the current Skype app in your Mobile Apps
folder in iTunes Media and that way you could get back to the previous
version.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: too many apps in a folder?

[Rose Combs]

I have to agree, I spent an hour creating folders a couple of weeks ago and
found I had so many blank spaces on every screen that I wanted to move
everything around but by then I was tired and everything I tried seemed to
make another mess,  Eventually I just reset the aps back to alphabetical
order and forgot the folder, just moving Newsstand to page 6 where it won't
be in my way and putting stocks in the utilities folder and gave up.  I'd
love to have been able to do this on the computer where I had a keyboard to
work with.  Maybe I will get my folders and fill in the blank spaces to
shrink my 5 pages to 3 but right now isn't the time I am going to attempt it
again.  Moving one app around is one thing, trying to create games,
navigation, and so forth and then get everything on maybe two to three
screens is time-consuming and I don't have the time.  

 

I know I could do it better on the computer, if only iTunes would allow me
to access the process.  

 

I still like the feel of a real keyboard under my fingers, I can use the
onscreen stuff and often do but I am most comfortable with a keyboard.
Probably always will be.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: too many apps in a folder?

 

I would rather have the ability to create the folders within itunes and sync
those with the phone.

  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming. 

- Original Message - 

From: Victor Gouveia   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:55 PM

Subject: Re: too many apps in a folder?

 

Speaking of which, I wonder if anyone has approached Apple about giving us
the ability to create folders within folders.

 

I mean, I have like seven or eight game folders, and I would love to place
my accessible games in one folder so I don't have to go hunting for them,
and being able to create folders within folders would boost this ability
greatly.

 

I'm just wondering if anyone has heard of spoken of this before.

 

Victor Gouveia
Vice-President
Training Coordinator
VIP Tech
Tel: 1-(888)-737-1115
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RE: Alarmed was Re: Calendar event, can I check?

[Rose Combs]

I tried this app hoping to get my husband to use it for scheduling his
medications.  It only talked through the earpiece, and we had no clue what
to do to make it work.  I will have to find another noisy solution to keep
him on track and I know there are medication trackers out there, I just have
not been able to type them all in, would be easy if I could transfer my Word
file to the phone I suppose but he probably would never read it if I did.  I
don't have dropbox or any other file-sharing apps at this time.  They can be
done, I just have not had a great need since all my work stuff comes to me
in Word, Excel or PDF and I use the computer to access them.  

I know, I am woefully behind the times here, not enough hours in most days.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Alarmed was Re: Calendar event, can I check?

Hello all
Thank you for your help.
I'm pleased to report the Alarmed app is just what I was after.
I was able to set a super reminder to occur on the first Wednesday of every
month.
I love this app to bits!
Don't get me wrong, the default calendar/reminder apps are good, but if you
want more customization and flexibility, the Alarmed app is the way to go.
It is completely free in the app store, with an in-app purchase for the
extras pack should you wish to do that. I did this very thing, because I
want to support the developer with the excellent work he has done to make
this app 100% accessible with VoiceOver.
Thank you once again, and, as the developer said, are you alarmed? Smile.
Chris.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 06/03/2013 12:02, Chris H wrote:
> Hello all.
> Sorry for the subject line but it will make sense below.
> I have set up a calendar event on my iPhone 4. It is going to repeat 
> monthly, however it needs to be the first Wednesday of the month.
> So have I set this up right? I should say the start date is Wednesday, 
> the 3rd of April.
> If not please guide me in how I can adjust this.
> Any responses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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RE: Alarmed was Re: Calendar event, can I check?

[Rose Combs]

It was coming out of the phone ear piece when it was lying flat on the desk.
Never got it to work even after I installed and then reinstalled.  No big
deal right now.  

BTW, I hate daylight saving time.  I thought I had my phone set so it would
not change time since I am Arizona.  My alarm went off and I jumped up, ran
for the shower, got dressed and turned on the radio, the wrong stuff was on
and when I check a different clock, it seems I got up an hour early.
considering my phone says it is set on Phoenix time, I don't have a clue why
that happened, my husband's 5 did not change.  

I was a bit unhappy to realize I got out from my nice cozy bed an hour
earlier than I needed to.  

Why do we keep flipping times anyway, I had three clocks I had to mess
around with in my free hour this morning.  




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alarmed was Re: Calendar event, can I check?

Did you try turning off the BT ear peace?
- Original Message - 
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: Alarmed was Re: Calendar event, can I check?


>I tried this app hoping to get my husband to use it for scheduling his
> medications.  It only talked through the earpiece, and we had no clue what
> to do to make it work.  I will have to find another noisy solution to keep
> him on track and I know there are medication trackers out there, I just 
> have
> not been able to type them all in, would be easy if I could transfer my 
> Word
> file to the phone I suppose but he probably would never read it if I did. 
> I
> don't have dropbox or any other file-sharing apps at this time.  They can 
> be
> done, I just have not had a great need since all my work stuff comes to me
> in Word, Excel or PDF and I use the computer to access them.
>
> I know, I am woefully behind the times here, not enough hours in most 
> days.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Chris H
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Alarmed was Re: Calendar event, can I check?
>
> Hello all
> Thank you for your help.
> I'm pleased to report the Alarmed app is just what I was after.
> I was able to set a super reminder to occur on the first Wednesday of 
> every
> month.
> I love this app to bits!
> Don't get me wrong, the default calendar/reminder apps are good, but if 
> you
> want more customization and flexibility, the Alarmed app is the way to go.
> It is completely free in the app store, with an in-app purchase for the
> extras pack should you wish to do that. I did this very thing, because I
> want to support the developer with the excellent work he has done to make
> this app 100% accessible with VoiceOver.
> Thank you once again, and, as the developer said, are you alarmed? Smile.
> Chris.
>
>
> Christopher Hallsworth
>
> On 06/03/2013 12:02, Chris H wrote:
>> Hello all.
>> Sorry for the subject line but it will make sense below.
>> I have set up a calendar event on my iPhone 4. It is going to repeat
>> monthly, however it needs to be the first Wednesday of the month.
>> So have I set this up right? I should say the start date is Wednesday,
>> the 3rd of April.
>> If not please guide me in how I can adjust this.
>> Any responses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
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Re: I'm Just Not Getting the Hang of Flexy.

[Rose Waagan]

Hi Richard, 
I had a bit of a problem with typing accuracy with Fleksy when I started out. 
First off, let me ask you. How fast are you typing with Fleksy? You don't have 
to answer me. Just think about it. Sometimes I find that I get some words 
consistently right and other words consistently wrong. When I find one of these 
words, I stop what I'm doing and practice typing out that word. Sometimes I 
find I just need to be a little less exaggerated when I type that word. Or I'll 
slow gown typing when I get to that word. My advice to you is to open Fleksy 
when you have some time and practice. Try bigger words first. Delightful. 
Practices. Exaggerate. Simplified. Mastery. Geography. These are just some 
examples. As you get better with these words, try typing smaller sentences. Can 
I do that? How is the weather? Type more slowly than you were typing before, 
since you'll be dealing with smaller words which take more accuracy to get. 
Sometimes typing just a little bit slower can make all the difference 
Hope that helps, 
rose

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> The thing is, it never got anything I tried to type correct, so for me, it's 
> just easier to type.
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:52 AM, "Debbie Worstman"  wrote:
> 
>> I had not bought this app yet, I wanted more time to actually play with it.
>> Because of this thread I went in to the app, always before I was waiting for
>> VO. to say the letter before I lifted my finger truly just trust that you
>> are hitting the right letters when you type. 
>> I now an going to buy Fleksy!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of blind Treasures
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: I'm Just Not Getting the Hang of Flexy.
>> 
>> I applaud  anyone who is blind and can type just as fast on the built in
>> keyboard as they can with Fleksy! You are much better than me! 
>> I for one and very gracious to Flexsy for developing this wonderful typing
>> app. Before I wouldn't even use the email app on my IPhone due to it just
>> took me to long to type an email with more than a few words in it and I am
>> pretty good with the built in keyboard. 
>> Now, I can type almost as fast as my sighted family members and I use the
>> email app now on a regular bases. 
>> The only thing that would make Flexsy even better is that if it could be
>> built into the IOS. Thank you  Fleksy team, you rock!!
>> 
>> Blind Treasures
>> Phone: (804)-726-8900
>> Sales: sa...@blindtreasures.com
>> Skype: kingmeade
>> Web Page: http://www.blindtreasures.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sandy Tomkins
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I'm Just Not Getting the Hang of Flexy.
>> 
>> Hallo Krister,
>> 
>>   I don't generally join in these debates about specially generated apps
>> etc, but in the case of Fleksy, I have been tempted. The simple fact is that
>> the way Fleksy works, it is equally valuable to sighted typists. For
>> example, my partner can type about ten times faster using Fleksy as opposed
>> to the built in keyboard. Plus, many people find their fingers too large to
>> safely hit the right key. Fleksy makes this unimportant. So, I suppose I am
>> saying that, for once, the cart has come before the horse and that something
>> developed with the VIP community in mind, might actually find a much greater
>> mainstream market.
>> 
>>   I think we may well see Fleksy being bought by Apple for inclusion into
>> its IOS.
>> 
>>   Happy tapping, Sandy. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 21 Aug 2012, at 12:16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> This is one of many reasons why i never ever ever will get Fleksy. 
>>> What
>> would i want it for when there's an adequate keyboard already present and
>> one that can adapt to the situations, so if there's an email, to type the
>> adress, there will pop up a keyboard with relevant signs already in place. I
>> know i'm politically incorrect but i say it anyway, why do i want a special
>> solution because i'm blind? And before anyone says it, it's not the apps
>> themselves i'm afraid of, they're there in the app store for grabbing, if
>> you want 'em get 'em, what i'm afraid of is the demand it brings. When we

Re: I'm Just Not Getting the Hang of Flexy.

[Rose Waagan]

Hi Traci, 
Not being able to edit large amounts of text with Fleksy is one of my biggest 
gripes with it right now. If you suddenly discover that you wrote the wrong 
word a sentence or two back, you're stuck debating everything you've typed up 
to that point. Granted I could be missing something. I do have a question for 
you though. You say you use the emogy keyboard Hi Traci, 
Not being able to edit large amounts of text with Fleksy is one of my biggest 
gripes with it right now. If you suddenly discover that you wrote the wrong 
word a sentence or two back, you're stuck debating everything you've typed up 
to that point. Granted I could be missing something. I do have a question for 
you though. You say you use the emogy keyboard in iMessage. How do you bring 
that up? 
rose Hi Traci, 
Not being able to edit large amounts of text with Fleksy is one of my biggest 
gripes with it right now. If you suddenly discover that you wrote the wrong 
word a sentence or two back, you're stuck deleting everything you've typed up 
to that point. Granted I could be missing something. I do have a question for 
you though. You say you use the emogy keyboard in iMessage. How do you bring 
that up? 
rose in iMessage. How do you bring that up? 
rose 

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On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Traci  wrote:

> I find myself using Fleksy often.  It is just forming a new habit.  I have 
> the app on my home screen and I tap it open before sending a message or 
> status update.  I want to practice more before composing a long email.  The 
> one thing I'm struggling with is reviewing and editing a large amount of text.
> 
> For the person asking about smile & wink.  If you hold your finger on the 
> keyboard and move up towards the number row, you'll find the row of symbols.  
> Find the colon, above the I, I believe, then lift your finger to type the 
> colon.  If you wanted the semicolon for a wink, you'll need to flick down.  
> Repeat the process to find the parenthesis.  Lol, remember the difference 
> between left and right for the smile or frown.
> 
> Hope that helps.  I don't always type my emoticons via Fleksy, but it is cool 
> I know how to.  ;)  I sometimes find myself typing the message via fleksy, 
> then when I'm in the iMessage window I use the emoji keyboard if I want to.
> 
> Traci
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
> 
> On Aug 21, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Richard Ring wrote:
> 
>> The thing is, it never got anything I tried to type correct, so for me, it's 
>> just easier to type.
>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 9:52 AM, "Debbie Worstman"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I had not bought this app yet, I wanted more time to actually play with it.
>>> Because of this thread I went in to the app, always before I was waiting for
>>> VO. to say the letter before I lifted my finger truly just trust that you
>>> are hitting the right letters when you type. 
>>> I now an going to buy Fleksy!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of blind Treasures
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:28 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: I'm Just Not Getting the Hang of Flexy.
>>> 
>>> I applaud  anyone who is blind and can type just as fast on the built in
>>> keyboard as they can with Fleksy! You are much better than me! 
>>> I for one and very gracious to Flexsy for developing this wonderful typing
>>> app. Before I wouldn't even use the email app on my IPhone due to it just
>>> took me to long to type an email with more than a few words in it and I am
>>> pretty good with the built in keyboard. 
>>> Now, I can type almost as fast as my sighted family members and I use the
>>> email app now on a regular bases. 
>>> The only thing that would make Flexsy even better is that if it could be
>>> built into the IOS. Thank you  Fleksy team, you rock!!
>>> 
>>> Blind Treasures
>>> Phone: (804)-726-8900
>>> Sales: sa...@blindtreasures.com
>>> Skype: kingmeade
>>> Web Page: http://www.blindtreasures.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Sandy Tomkins
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm Just Not Getting the Hang of Flexy.
>>> 
>>> Hallo Krister,
>>> 
>>>   I don't generally join in these debates about specially generated apps
>>> etc, but in the case of Fleksy, I have been tempted. The si

Re: Fleksy observation.

[Rose Waagan]

Hi Sandy, 
As we've seem on this list, sometimes a Fleksy bug only affects a small 
fraction of users. I believe you are one of the small fraction this time. If I 
were you, I'd write to supp...@fleksy.com. Explain that Fleksy becomes sluggish 
when you enter words manually. See what they say.. 
Rose 

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On Aug 24, 2012, at 3:42 AM, Sandy Tomkins  wrote:

> Hi Lois,
> 
>Thanks for the response. i have tried that, but with very unreliable 
> results. Indeed, I just tried Fleksy again and the screen kept going to black 
> and not responding. So long as I just do the Fleksy thing, I.E. type quickly 
> using normal words, things go OK, but as soon as I try any of the new tricks, 
> I get in quite a mess.
> 
>i was one of the first to sing the praises of Fleksy, so am very well 
> disposed toward it, but am finding the newest version a bit of a pain. i am 
> hoping it is just me or my phone, which I did reset, just in case, but things 
> seem actually worse now! Plus, I am still experiencing quite a long loading 
> time. Hmmm, as I haven't seen messages other than those of praise since the 
> last update, I can only imagine it is user error, i probably need to 
> practise, but I did just get on with the first version from the get go. For 
> example, whenever I touch the bottom right of the keyboare for a new line, I 
> get extraneous letter M. and placing parentheses round a word gives me some 
> interesting but useless results.
> 
>please someone, tell me that this is just me and that Fleksy hasn't got 
> too complicated to use intuitively.
> 
>Sandy (using my bluetooth keyboard) 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24 Aug 2012, at 10:40, "Lois Butterfield"  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not a fleksy pro or anything, but wouldn't it work to hold your finger 
>> on the letter until you hear it spoken before moving on.  That way, it won't 
>> try to correct.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Sandy Tomkins
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Fleksy observation.
>> 
>> Hello to all,
>> 
>> Having just tried the latest update of Fleksy, I think I would like to see a 
>> slight adjustment to the present system of input. I wonder if it would be 
>> possible to toggle Fleksy with the more traditional method for those times 
>> when one wants to put in, say, an email address? I am finding it very 
>> frustrating with the present method. I find I keep cancelling a lot of what 
>> I have written. Plus, there seems to be a problem getting some words to be 
>> recognized. Just now I had to use the word cancelling instead of deleting! 
>> Aah! You have no idea just how long it took me to get that to take!
>> 
>> So are other people having the same issue as me? Would such a toggle be of 
>> use? And would it be possible?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Sandy.
>> 
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Re: Fleksy on Android devices

[Rose Waagan]

I'm glad to see that, for the most part, this discussion has not turned into an 
Android vs. Ios debate. Although I don't use an android device anymore, I don't 
hate the platform because of it's lack of some things. I would still have my 
android device if I hadn't switched to sprint and therefore couldn't just swap 
sim cards willy nilly. And I had a friend who needed my device more than I did, 
so I gave it to her. I state these facts so that you know where I'm coming from 
when I make my comments. I decided to stay on the Android list even after I 
gave my sidekick away. Because I believed, and I still do, that Android can and 
will go places. And after observing discussions on the android list regarding 
Android's progress vs. What we currently see with ios, I conclude the people on 
that list feel the same way. When you love a product despite it's accessibility 
flaws, you're willing to stick with it and watch it grow. If I were still on 
t-mobile, I would still have an Android phone as a secondary device. Why? 
Because even though Android is not your mighty ios, a lot can still be done 
with that os. I could call, text, Tweet, listen to Pandora, and check email. 
And if that's all you do on your phone, Android might work for you. Mind you, 
this was in the days of Fruyo, and accessibility has improved since then. 
That's just my two cents. At any rate, I have some bad news for those of you 
who are hoping Fleksy will make a Jailbreak keyboard. It will never happen. I 
don't say this to be a synic. I'd be the first person to Jailbreak if Fleksy 
came out with a Jailbreak tweak. But the fact is that Apple has rules. And they 
state that if they find out that anyone with an app in the app store has made a 
Jailbreak app, that person or company will be banned from the app store. Yes, I 
know. Some devs have apps in both the official and Jailbreak app stores. But 
let's remember, these devs are small potatoes in comparison to Fleksy. Fleksy 
could never get away with having an app in both app stores. So we either use 
Fleksy as is, convince Apple to integrate Fleksy into their OS, or we use 
Fleksy on android. It sucks that there's no easy way out with a Jailbreak 
tweak, but that's life. 
Now getting off my soap box, 
Rose :the Jailbreak queen. 

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On Aug 24, 2012, at 2:30 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I know I appreciate your posts, and it's obvious you put some thought
> into your opinions and your posts as well. I'd agree you're one of the
> 20 people who contributes 80% of the worthwhile content on this list.
> 
> I haven't given up my Booksense yet. I still get a lot of content from
> the NLS here in the US, and that's pretty much exclusively what I use my
> Booksense for now.
> 
> I totally agree with your statements about JAWS. I would not have been
> employed for the last 25 years without JAWS. I needed to work with Lotus
> Notes, Excel and so on, and no other screen reader would have allowed me
> to do that. As you said, I don't begrudge the update fees I've paid to
> FS, and it would still have been worth it if I'd had to pay quite a bit
> more!
> 
> I work in software engineering, and a lot of what you said is right on.
> I'm not familiar with FS's software engineering processes or code, but
> these issues aren't as straightforward as a lot of users realize.
> Testing JAWS across all of the systems, graphics adapters and other
> configurations is a huge and expensive task. FS has to make business
> decisions and assume a certain amount of risk in their testing. I know
> users have their pet features and bugs, but again FS has to make a
> business decision on where to strike the balance between fixing bugs and
> developing new features. None of this is unique to FS, and I hear the
> same things with every product I've worked on.
> 
> I'm also puzzled by how many people have blinders on when it comes to
> new features. If they personally don't see a benefit for it then they
> just pan it and chastise JAWS for wasting resources on some useless new
> feature instead of fixing their pet bug. The don't seem to realize that
> just because they don't see a value in a particular feature that there
> may be others out there who will take advantage of that FEATURE. Of
> course, businesses can make the wrong call. I think even now FS would
> agree that some of their features didn't work out, such as Research It,
> and HIMS with their  voice recognition feature, but I'd rather have a
> company looking to be innovative and come up with a new technology that
> I haven't thought of rather than just get stagnant. I mean, how many
> blind people figured we'd never be able to use a touch inte

Re: Fleksy observation.

[Rose Waagan]

I don't like the idea of having all punctuation in one column. Think of how 
many symbols that would be. You'd be spending precious time flicking down just 
to find what you wanted. Right now, all you have to do is remember what column 
your punctuation is in and flick a few times instead of many times. I think the 
current system is worth a little memorization. That's just my opinion.. 
Rose 

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On Aug 24, 2012, at 5:06 PM, "Sean Paul"  wrote:

> Ok, I'd agree that the rooter idea sounds like a good one. Perhaps I should 
> spend a bit more time working with the current configuration & see if I can 
> make it work for me better than it currently does.
> - Original Message - From: "Michelle McQuigge" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 18:12
> Subject: Re: Fleksy observation.
> 
> 
>> My own suggestion, for what it's worth, would be to set up some sort
>> of punctuation rotor comparable to the language rotor in the voiceover
>> settings. Through a system like that, users may be able to pick their
>> preferred punctuation marks and customize the list that appears with
>> the single right swipe. This may well be fanciful, but it seems like a
>> potential compromise. And I say this as someone who uses the current
>> punctuation configuration fairly happily and finds it an immeasurable
>> improvement over the system at work in the original version.
>> Another humble suggestion, if I may be so bold...Is it possible to
>> enable typical voiceover rotor settings in Fleksy? If I wanted to
>> write a tweet that includes a pasted link, for instance, I can't
>> currently drop the url into the message I prepare in the program - I
>> have to use a twitter client and type the entire tweet out with the
>> standard keyboard. A minor irritant, to be sure, but something I
>> thought I'd raise in case it's of interest to the developers.
>> If all of this is logistically impossible, please ignore me and carry on. :)
>> 
>> Best,
>> Michelle
>> 
>> Best,
>> Michelle
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/24/12, Rick Alfaro  wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Personally, I would not like to see this changed to having all punctuations
>>> being available only on one Colum.  I find the current setup to be very
>>> intuitive and quicker once you get used to it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Sean Paul
>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 3:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Fleksy observation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1st out. I'd like to thank you for fleksy. & perhaps on the list is not the
>>> place for this discussion. Or? Perhaps it is as I'd like to see what others
>>> think of my idea. One thing I'd like to see the fleksy team implement in
>>> the
>>> next version is the ability to access all of the punctuation from the one
>>> swiping down column. Meaning that when you flick right & are on the period,
>>> you'd just swipe your finger down & all of the punctuation & symbols would
>>> be in that column. I have found the finding other punctuation & symbols
>>> most
>>> difficult in getting to. As I use the dash, underscore, number sign, etc
>>> quite a bit. This would certainly be much easier for me in getting to them.
>>> I'd like others thoughts on this?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: Syntellia Inc <mailto:syntell...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>> Cc: sandratomk...@googlemail.com
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:55
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: Fleksy observation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for writing here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We monitor the list sometimes, but please write to us at
>>> supp...@fleksy.com.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are currently preparing the next version of Fleksy, and would like to
>>> know of any bugs so we can fix them for the next update.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My colleagues at support will help with your problem a

Talking camera pro

[Rose Waagan]

Hi all, 
Has anyone heard of this app? I ask because it is very hard to find in the app 
store. It you search for this app using it's name, you won't see the app unless 
you tap show 25 more. However, if you search for blind camera, talking camera 
pro is the first result. I'm wondering why this app is so hard to find. And if 
the app's developer, who seems to make only apps for the sighted beyond this 
one, put time into making this app, why not advertise it more assertively? The 
fact that I've seen no mention of it on this list means, most likely, that very 
little people know about talking camera pro. 
Thoughts? 
Rose 





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Re: Talking camera pro

[Rose Waagan]

No, I have not tried the app. I clicked the app support button on the app's 
page to find out more about it and was sent to the developer's web site, where 
I could find no information about the app. I'm a little hesitant to pay for 
another ocr app having so little information about it. Especially when I get 
reasonable results with Text Detective. 

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On Aug 27, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:

> HI.  have you tried the app?
> 
> does it work well?
> 
> 
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
> Mahatma Gandhi
> 
> On 28/08/2012, at 6:08 AM, Rose Waagan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> Has anyone heard of this app? I ask because it is very hard to find in the 
>> app store. It you search for this app using it's name, you won't see the app 
>> unless you tap show 25 more. However, if you search for blind camera, 
>> talking camera pro is the first result. I'm wondering why this app is so 
>> hard to find. And if the app's developer, who seems to make only apps for 
>> the sighted beyond this one, put time into making this app, why not 
>> advertise it more assertively? The fact that I've seen no mention of it on 
>> this list means, most likely, that very little people know about talking 
>> camera pro. 
>> Thoughts? 
>> Rose 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: AudioBooks.com

[Rose Combs]

Actually, if I could I would also speed up movies, I read almost always at a
higher speed and sometimes I wish I could do it with news, movies and such,
taking a half an hour to read or hear something I could hear in 20 minutes
annoys me but then I also use pretty fast reading on my computer and my
phone.  Only thing I dislike about iBlink radio is that I cannot speed up
podcasts so I have them now going to Downcast where I can speed them up, 2 X
is about my limit on most things.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AudioBooks.com

Hi Wayne and Chuck,

I am always amazed when people speed up audio book playback especially when
the readers are as good as most of the Audible readers are. For me a large
part of the enjoyment is the reading itself, of course also the story, but
speeding up a well-read audio book to me would be the same as speeding up
playback on a movie so that instead of the movie being 90 minutes I could
listen to it in 30 or 40  minutes. The same goes for books in electronic
text, I listen to Jaws and Voiceover all day and it's fine for work, but
there is just no way in a thousand years that I listen to a good novel using
a synthesized voice and there isn't a voice out there that is even a tenth
as good as what a good reader can do. But to each his or her own I guess!

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: AudioBooks.com

[Rose Combs]

I'd like to speed up my husband sometimes too and supply the words he can't
think of and have them said correctly, LOL!  



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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AudioBooks.com

What? Man if I could speed up all the people that talk to me and especially
my wife, I'd be so happy. People talk to WHat? Ah man if I could get an app
to speed up everyone I talk to life would really be sweet. I like a good
reader as well, but I just want to keep the flow ripping along. 

On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Wayne and Chuck,
> 
> I am always amazed when people speed up audio book playback especially 
> when the readers are as good as most of the Audible readers are. For 
> me a large part of the enjoyment is the reading itself, of course also 
> the story, but speeding up a well-read audio book to me would be the 
> same as speeding up playback on a movie so that instead of the movie 
> being 90 minutes I could listen to it in 30 or 40  minutes. The same 
> goes for books in electronic text, I listen to Jaws and Voiceover all 
> day and it's fine for work, but there is just no way in a thousand 
> years that I listen to a good novel using a synthesized voice and 
> there isn't a voice out there that is even a tenth as good as what a good
reader can do. But to each his or her own I guess!
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: How do I delete a contact?

[Rose Combs]

Edit the contact, then swipe up to go to the next page and do it a second
time, at the very bottom just above the home button the delete button should
occur, they hide it rather wall so you won't accidentally delete a contact,
You could flick through every item offered also it will be the last one.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do I delete a contact?

What I meant was that I tried to double-tap and hold hoping for a delete
message.  I will look again, but I did not see a delete on the screen when
in edit.  It was rather strange.  I was in white and yellow pages and looked
for the drugstore I have my meds at.  The first one I found I thought was
correct.  The app asks if I wanted it in contacts.  However, it only put it
in with the name of the store but no number.  This is fine as it was the
incorrect one, but that is the one I want to delete since there is no number
there.  When I finally found the correct one, it worked beautifully.
Reggie
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I delete a contact?

What do you mean by the normal way? 

When you edit the contact you want to delete there should be a delete
contact button at the bottom of the screen. You should be able to double tap
that button and get rid of the unwanted contact. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "reggie.alvar...@gmail.com"
 wrote:

> How do I delete a contact? I have a store in my favorites, and one of them
is incorrect. Thanks for the help. When I try to delete in the normal way,
it will not work. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Brooks
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RE: I do not ask this in a nasty way, and please ...

[Rose Combs]

I don't want to go to the 5 but when he is eligible, my husband will
probably want to because of the larger screen and the retina display.  He
says no right now but, he should be eligible in January but then he has my
old 4.  


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Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I do not ask this in a nasty way, and please ...

The only reason I can see upgrading is if you want the extra horsepower of
the processor, faster mobile broadband, and the new phone. 
On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "reggie.alvar...@gmail.com"
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> accept apologies if someone takes offense, but why would someone with a 4s
want to go to apple i5? Won't our upgrade have all the bells and whistles? I
know, latest as greatest! Smiles. 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: i5 Underwhelming

[Rose Combs]

Does anyone know if the new iTunes will be accessible, we always seem to be
lagging a bit on that front.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming

Hello Joe,

I totally and completely agree with you.

While I will purchase the iPhone 5, there is definitely no wow factor and
I'm certainly not recommending it to iPhone 4 S users.


The fact that Apple thinks it's cool to be able to manipulate iTunes
playlists in a slightly new way says more about their lack of innovation
than anything.

I think the big thing this year is iOS 6 about which I am extremely excited.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: i5 Underwhelming

Is it just me or does the iPhone appear to have hit a plateau? I’m not an
Apple hater. I have the 4S like a big chunk of you, the latest Mac Air and a
Touch somewhere. Yet, I was honestly underwhelmed by this latest model. The
hardware will finally look attractive, unlike the current ugly boxy form
factor, and iOS 6 has some interesting new whistles. Yet, I feel like these
whistles have lost their shrill compared to other platforms. Maybe it’s
because there is only one annual update as compared to the barrage from
other manufacturers, but then, maybe it’s because there is only one annual
update that the iPhone should make more of a splash.

Anyway, for whatever it’s worth, if you’re sitting on the 4S, my consumer
advice is that the new model is not worth it. Strictly personally speaking
mind you. Yet, I know people always ask, and please do forgive me if the
subject has already been covered.


Let’s hope other platforms keep up the innovation so as to put Apple more in
line with the cool factor it once enjoyed.

Joe
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RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

[Rose Combs]

are they calling it a "mini pad?"  

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Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

Hi,

There's apparently going to be another event in October, but we don't' know
for sure. According to sources I've read, they're going to introduce that
7.85-inch iPad.

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

They didn't say a word about a new iPad.  I listened to the entire
presentation.
I believe the last two iPads were released in March or April, not the Fall,
so I suspect if there is going to be a new smaller iPad, it will be early
next year.
I have nothing to base that on, other than Apple's history.

Richard
  


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Of Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: When Will Next Ipad Be Released

Hi Everyone, 

Has there been any mention of when a newer Ipad will be released?  I thought
I heard some discussion but could absolutely be wrong.  Trying to decide
whether to buy what the New Ipad AKA Ipad 3 or wait because a newer version
is going to be released.  

Thank you,

Lynda 

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RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

[Rose Combs]

Why should she loosen up, There are many words that can be substituted for
foul language and they make one sound more educated also.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

I've done that, the "where the hell am I?" not the "where's my wife?"
SIRI doesn't like foul language, O well.

Maybe she'll loosen  up in iOS 6.

Richard


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Of Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What can you say to Siri in iOS 6?

You know I just want to ask Siri "where the hell am I?" Oh wait there is an
app for that. :) Seriously it would be great if Siri could say "hey you fool
your at the corner of 3rd and Main." "There is a nice bar nearby and you
should stop and have a couple since you seem a little aggravated." Now that
would be a really good use for Siri. Oh maybe I could say "Siri, where's my
wife?" "why she's three isles over, so you still have a chance to make a run
for it!" :) Yep, I'm thinking Siri could really mature into something quite
useful. :)

On Sep 15, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> I use the dictation feature of siri a lot. Other than that, I don't 
> use
siri for much except voice dialing contacts out of my address book. And like
Ricardo, I can dial a call that has only a company name in the company field
and no first or last name. I would love to see voice inquiry integrated into
the maps and gps, so you could simply ask Siri where am I and get info back
like closest address, nearest intersection etc. But of course, since that
probably doesn't matter much to sighted people, unless they live in my town,
where a lot of the street signs are stolen by students at the start of each
year, it probably won't happen. 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
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RE: i5 Underwhelming

[Rose Combs]

Isn't that called Holm's law or something similar?  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Barry
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: i5 Underwhelming

If other  platforms are moving faster it is only because they are far
behind.
As for innovations slowing down; as any technology  matures change will
naturally slow down.
It can not do otherwise.
Everything moves faster when starting from zero.
This is truly basic stuff and I wonder why people keep acting shocked when
they encounter it.

At 03:18 PM 9/15/2012, you wrote:
>I think that's what I was getting at: Going from the 4S to the 5 is not 
>going to be substantially different. There's a reason why I chose the 
>iPhone, but I don't think it unfair to say that Apple appears to be 
>innovating at a slower rate than when Jobs was in charge. That doesn't 
>mean that Cook is not innovative or that the iPhone is falling way 
>behind. All things considered though, I think other platforms are 
>raising the bar at a faster rate. Since we're relying on one major OS 
>upgrade a year, I'd like to see that upgrade pack a punch. 
>Hardware-wise, I think they're doing what they need to do to keep pace. 
>The camera is more dynamic even if it stayed at 8 MP. But, Do Not 
>Disturb is nothing to be wowed by when other platforms were doing this 
>already. I'm fine with them going rogue on maps, but why fix something 
>that wasn't broken? The same is true of Youtube. Perhaps my greater 
>complaint is that Apple is attempting to pit itself against Google when 
>Google could in fact help iOS stay ahead of the curve. Anyway, 
>regardless, I am glad that accessibility is still built into the core, 
>and that is something that for me personally keeps the iPhone ahead of 
>everything else.--Joe
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:09 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: i5 Underwhelming
>
>Did you all consider that some people might have NFC what NFC is? LOL, 
>just kidding. Every time I hear NFC, I don't think payment system. I 
>think, "No F.g Clue".
>
>Anyway, seriously though, I'm not going to belittle anyone who upgrades 
>from the 4S to the 5 because after all, it's still moving up the chain 
>of new devices. However for me personally, I can wait because with what 
>I can get out of the 4S, I can't justify a new phone just yet. Now, if 
>I was coming from the 3GS or the 4, then I would definitely be getting the
5.
>
>Cheers.
>
>
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>On 9/14/2012 2:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> > Well said, Allison. It seems that with every release of a new iPhone 
> > a certain group of people (and I don't necessarily mean just people 
> > on this list) complain and say it's disappointing etc. When the 4S 
> > came out it was the same, a lot of people were disappointed it 
> > wasn't called the iPhone 5 as if the name matters and so on. I 
> > actually think it would have been smart of Apple to just call it 
> > "the new iPhone", after all, a MacBook Pro or an iMac doesn't have a
model number.
> > Compared to a 4S the iPhone 5 is maybe not quite as big an update as 
> > the 4S was from the 4, but of course for the many people who are on 
> > a
> > 4 or even 3GS it's huge and who says it has to be this incredible 
> > new innovation every year, it's not as if anybody's life and 
> > happiness depends on the fact that they buy a new iPhone every year; 
> > at least it shouldn't depend on that, if it does maybe you need to 
> > spend money on a shrink instead of a new iPhone. I heard a lot of 
> > disappointment that there is no NFC, but I think Apple may feel NFC 
> > it's just not the thing and they certainly don't adopt something if 
> > they don't believe in it or if they think the time isn't right.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sieghard
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RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

[Rose Combs]

But will we be able to do the same on iTunes when the release the new one?  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well.
However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If the only
problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use than unlike others
I don't really care since I can do the same thing using iTunes.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

Hi,

Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going to be
completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for those that
can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, there's a chance we
won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out.
Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since the
changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself.
Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the App
Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it is true to
say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be more helpful.

First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been said
in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you update.
You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, still
have to enter your password when you install a free app.

When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store and
placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply stay in the
App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the update button, I can
see nothing that gives you confirmation that the app update has begun
downloading. However, if you go to your home screen right away, you will be
able to see that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the
download and install changing.

So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. yes,
it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or
downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at all.

Jonathan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and speculated on,
I would say that if you have information which helps to clear things up, go
right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how much you can say.

Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before commenting.

Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new changes
before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you can't go back,
and if you really don't like something, then you will be forced to deal with
it sooner than later. As it is, you will have to move forward at some point,
but maybe by not jumping the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised.

Cheers.

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On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like 
> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to 
> continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be 
> under
NDA.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of James Mannion
> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: kliph...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>
> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in 
> updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or 
> reliability issues?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
> On 9/16/12, Kliphton  wrote:
>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, 
>> especially in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail, and we 
>> even have a do not disturb feature.  That's all for now, let's wait 
>> for
Wednesday.
>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra  wrote:
>>
>>> 48 hours

RE: Enable hints to hear the preview pane in mail

[Rose Combs]

I liked using the vertical swipe down to delete messages, I had a few
different groups and it was getting a bit confusing.  Much easier.  

Also was able to delete a favorite or two that were either gone or
incorrect.  
Now if I can figure out reordering, life will be more pleasant because a few
of the numbers I call most often are on the second screen, but I won't do
this today.  

Upgrade took about 15 minutes here, suddenly the phone stopped talking and I
kept on reading messages on this list (not on the phone) and then I heard it
connect to the computer and then it started talking again and everything was
where I left it, Home screen is slightly different but that is easy.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Enable hints to hear the preview pane in mail

Hello,

This is my favourite new feature of mail thus far. If you enable hints, when
going through the list of email messages, if you wait after the subject and
number of messages is announced, VO will read the first couple lines of the
oldest message in the conversation. Then, if you want to delete the
conversation, just do a vertical flick to delete and double-tap. VO now
accesses the preview pane.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

[Rose Combs]

Cross your hands if necessary.  The new commands would work for me since I
read left-handed only and use my right to manipulate things while reading.
Unfortunately my focus  is not a Blue and is connected to my computer.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi Jonathan,

Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying the
new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that they don't
work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by line and have to
pan left and right by display width to navigate. When I need to scroll
through something quickly, this is not a practical way to do it. So, for me,
it really is unusable. I'm not flying off the handle, I'm not being
irrational; I'm not even afraid of something new. It really, truly doesn't
work for me because of the way VoiceOver behaves.

Cheryl

-Original Message- 
From: Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. The
best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press K-cord to
invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what they now do.

People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, but to
say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just different. Some
people will find it better, others not, but it is still very much useable.

Here's a summary that may assist.

Router Row Double tap the selected item.
Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.

Jonathan


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi,

I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 either. I
have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz Wheels to pan by
line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. VoiceOver jumps all over
the place when I try to navigate using Whiz Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move
up or down one click, VoiceOver focus will jump back and forth over a span
of four or five lines, and after a few seconds, may eventually land where it
is supposed to.

Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into this
update, the unintended consequences, for me at least, are that Braille is
virtually unuseable on my phone. At the very least, it's not practical. So,
I plan to downgrade back to iOS5.1.1, if I can figure out where to get it.

Cheryl


-Original Message-
From: Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi.

You can not change whiz wheels behaviour in IOS as far as I know.

Best regards Annie.

Best regards Annie.


Den Sep 19, 2012 kl. 10:10 PM skrev Scott Davert :

> Hi Anney.
> Have you made sure that your wizwheels didn't get changed by accident?
> You know that if you press streight down on them, this will toggle how
> they navigate, right? I used a focus 40 blue with wizwheels in an
> earlier beta version, and did not have this issue.
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/19/12, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> It is not possible anymore to go to the next line with your left hand
>> in IOS 6. Apple has changed the behaviours of the wheels in focus 40
>> blue, and in the new version the bottuns, so that you will now go to
>> the next item chosen in the router whith the wheel in the left side.
>>
>> it is a major problem for us who are reading with the wright hand and
>> like to go to the next display with the left hand. Now you will have
>> to read and go to the next line with your wright hand, it will waste
>> much time when reading.
>>
>> Has anybody a work around.
>>
>> Best regards Annie.
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RE: Navigon Update

[Rose Combs]

I am having a problem with Navigon, I want to enter my home address but for
some reason it refuses to recognize my street!  I had it working once before
and it knew my home address but when an upgrade several months ago refused
to work correctly I took it off the phone but, but I put it back, did the
update and downloaded my map, only for the state where I live.  When I do
get a list of streets to come up and swipe screen to the more button several
times only one street begins with East and I know after living here for 35
years that my street does exist and that other apps have told me my correct
address.  This is weird, cause if I type in the edit field it won't find it
which is what I tried to do first.  

Confused!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon Update

Hi, as I stated in a prior message, this new version is very accessible. 
It's my preferred GPS app over all of them for turn-by-turn stuff.

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On 9/20/2012 8:27 PM, Danny Leung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to ask the question again, is the new version as accessible as 
> prior version 2?
>
> I am using iPhone 4 and have accessibility issue with Navigon after 
> version 1.8.  Thus I have restore back to 1.8 version.  Now I am 
> hesitating to update to the latest one.
>
> I appreciate your feedback.
>
> Danny
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Navigon Update
>
> Hi, so far from what I can tell the app is just as accessible as before.
> So, update without worries.
>
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> On 9/20/2012 3:23 PM, Danny Leung wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can you tell us the new version of Navigon  is accessible by vIO?
Thanks!
>>
>> Danny
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Navigon Update
>>
>> I received an App Update as I own Navigon North America, but I'm 
>> guessing that Navigon US and other Navigon modules are also being 
>> updated
> for IOS6.
>> In addition to new maps, one can purchase an add-in called Urban 
>> Guidance which integrates bus, rail, subway and taxi information into 
>> pedestrian routes.  It costs $2.99 and once the update is installed 
>> it can be purchased through the extras menu.
>>
>> Les
>>
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RE: IOS6 APPLE HELP AND SIRI LIST OF COMMANDS

[Rose Combs]

Search the iBooks store with "iPhone user" and the 6.0 guide will be there
under other stuff, it is not the first on the list.  The book assumes you
can see the phone, its descriptions of what you can do are often very short
and laeve one wondering but, it is available and free.  


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Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: VI Phone Users
Subject: IOS6 APPLE HELP AND SIRI LIST OF COMMANDS

Hi all,

Anyone know if the HELP doc for IOS6 is available from Apple and also if
there's a fuller listg of Siri commands, which include IOS6, now available?

Any direct URLS would be most welcome, thanks.

Carol P

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RE: IOS6 APPLE HELP AND SIRI LIST OF COMMANDS

[Rose Combs]

Type iPhone user it will be in the list, probably a few down, it is there.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: 
Subject: Re: IOS6 APPLE HELP AND SIRI LIST OF COMMANDS

I did a search for the iOS user guide NOEC version 5. I know a few
individuals have noted that highway six is out, but I cannot find it from
within iBooks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 22, 2012, at 5:19 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> Search the iBooks store with "iPhone user" and the 6.0 guide will be 
> there under other stuff, it is not the first on the list.  The book 
> assumes you can see the phone, its descriptions of what you can do are 
> often very short and laeve one wondering but, it is available and free.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Carol Pearson
> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: VI Phone Users
> Subject: IOS6 APPLE HELP AND SIRI LIST OF COMMANDS
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Anyone know if the HELP doc for IOS6 is available from Apple and also 
> if there's a fuller listg of Siri commands, which include IOS6, now
available?
> 
> Any direct URLS would be most welcome, thanks.
> 
> Carol P
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RE: Ringtone scrolling bug?

[Rose Combs]

I use my finger and run down the list and there has been no problem, I don't
use the flick option all that often when navigating the phone unless there
are several things in one row, I just use my finger, move down slowly and
then to a page switch whenever needed.  I guess until recently I really
never thought to flick and I get good results most of the time with my
method.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ringtone scrolling bug?

 

Hello,

 

I just noticed this today.  Lol, I didn't know it would be a bug.  It is
annoying though.

 

I ended up finding the area I wanted, then slowly moved my finger down the
screen to get to the tone.

 

Running IOS6 iPhone4s.

Traci

Sent by Macbook Air Mail

 

On Sep 23, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Marc Rocheleau wrote:





Hey guys,

I just synced my phone today to add some ringtones I created. When I
was assigning a custom ringtone to a contact, I came across a bug that
I haven't seen anyone report here -- unless I missed it.

Scrolling through ringtones with right flicks, the list would go from
top to bottom fine. After doing this however, I've found that if you
flick left to scroll back up, VoiceOver will skip a bunch of ringtones
in between. Once you try going back down the list again with right
flicks, it skips the same ringtones. It's only when you three finger
swipe up or down that it seems to recognize more ringtones in the
middle and even then, the bug will replicate if you flick right and
left again.

I'm just wondering if anyone else can replicate the problem or has
experienced it already before reporting the bug to apple. It's
actually pretty annoying at times and I thought it was just human
error on my part at first.

I'm running IOS 6.0 on an iPhone 4, btw.

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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

[Rose Combs]

You will need to press the listen button again to tell it to send, cancel
and so forth.  


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Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


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RE: Battery savings

[Rose Combs]

What is the sense in having a powerful smart phone if you turn every feature
off?  

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Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery savings

You know I just do not see any point in going through all of this. You are
just going to make yourself crazy trying all of these things. If you were
going to be out hiking in the wilderness and really need to conserve
battery, I would say turn everything off except for the phone and maybe just
turn the thing off until needed. However, there is ac power just about
anywhere you are and hey you could always stand in front of a computer at a
store and sneak your iPhone cable into a USB port. Point is you are only
making the whole experience unpleasant turning this and that on/off just to
save a couple percent on the battery scale. You of course would not harm
anything turning cellular off, but honestly nor would you save anything and
if you did it would be almost negligible.

On Sep 27, 2012, at 12:36 PM, reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> 
> I have my phone on wifi and I have cellular on. What would happen to my
phone and to my battery is I turned off cellular in the house and turned it
back on when out? If I turn it off does that mess up my carrier? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Brooks
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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

[Rose Combs]

Hmm, I have not had this problem using an iPhone 4S and Siri, my husband and
I and another friend and I have been sending messages back and forth, I am
the only one with the 4S and I use Siri most of the time except when I am at
work because I don't  have a private office where I can talk to her.  Only
once did she get all confused and I had to turn off the phone to get her
back on track.  I hear the send sound when I tell her to send and a few
messages have been lengthy.  

When his contract is up I think my husband will get the 5, he has my old 4
right now which still has Vokul on it but he refuses to use it.  

I really like having Siri, I am fair at typing now, but being able to tell
her what to send usually works, although sometimes she just does not quite
get a word here and there and when that happens I generally shake the phone
and try a different way of expressing my message.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hello Iona,  

Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a couple of
days ago.

To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text message,
the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not matter how long
the auto-lock is set.  

NOTE 1:
If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may
successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time you
attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, subsequent
attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, will time out
before the message can be sent.

To create the bug, do the following:

NOTE 2:
I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to interact
with Siri.

1.
Launch Siri and say something like, "Send a message to Mark Taylor."  Siri
will reply with something like, "You said, send a message to Mark Taylor.
OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like it to
say?"  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and Siri will
say something like, "To, Mark Taylor."  

2.
Initiate the Siri command and say something like, "Hi Mark.  How is your
day?  I hope you are well."  Siri will respond with something like, "You
said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I updated your
message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send."

NOTE 3:
For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I can
send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, after
initiating Siri and saying, "Send," Siri will respond with something like,
"You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you," only to lock the screen,
losing the message before it can be sent.

I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug to
either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call their
accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930. 

Please feel free to use any part of this post.

Mark



 











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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

Hi,

Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having trouble
telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

[Rose Combs]

No, however, I wish it did work that way!  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Josh Eubank
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

When I set my iPhone 3GS running iOS 6 to vibrate mode, if I get a
notification while the screen is locked, voiceover will not read it. It
will, however, if I have it in the regular mode with all the sounds turned
on. Anyone else experiencing this? Thanks,

Josh

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RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

[Rose Combs]

I never use auto lock either, when I first got the phone it would lock
before I could figure out how to do anything and I shut it off and have
never tried to use it again.  
I use the screen lock all the time but it is my choice, not the phone's.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

It sounds like he has the auto lock feature turned on.
For those not having this problem, do you have auto lock enabled?

I never use auto lock, so this isn't an issue for me.

Richard
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri Generated Text Messages Bug Discovered in iOS 6.0

Hi Mark,

I haven't seen this bug at all since updating to IOS 6.  I wonder, does this
happen when sending regular texts and iMessages?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Sep 27, 2012, at 3:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
> message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
> matter how long the auto-lock is set.
> 
> NOTE 1:
> If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
> successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
> you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
> subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
> will time out before the message can be sent.
> 
> To create the bug, do the following:
> 
> NOTE 2:
> I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
> interact with Siri.
> 
> 1.
> Launch Siri and say something like, "Send a message to Mark Taylor."  
> Siri will reply with something like, "You said, send a message to Mark
Taylor.
> OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like 
> it to say?"  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and 
> Siri will say something like, "To, Mark Taylor."
> 
> 2.
> Initiate the Siri command and say something like, "Hi Mark.  How is 
> your day?  I hope you are well."  Siri will respond with something 
> like, "You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
> updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send."
> 
> NOTE 3:
> For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
> can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
> after initiating Siri and saying, "Send," Siri will respond with 
> something like, "You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you," only 
> to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
> 
> I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
> to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
> their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
> 
> Please feel free to use any part of this post.
> 
> Mark
> 
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RE: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

[Rose Combs]

Wow! Texting is the main reason I wanted Siri, and she does other things
nicely but she is much faster at sending a text 99% of the time than I am
typing it unless I am where the Bluetooth keyboard happens to be.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem

I've had better success in turning off voice over first and then using Siri
like a sighted person to send texts. So, if I really want to use her, I turn
off voice over, I press and hold home. When it beeps I say text blah and the
message. she responds with the message and if she should send it, I simply
say yes without having to tap the listen button and it gets sent.

Although i like Siri very much for many things, I can honestly say that
texting isn't one of them. But as I said, when I do, this is what works
better.

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On 9/27/2012 3:07 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Iona,
>
> Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about.  I discovered it a 
> couple of days ago.
>
> To those of you who may not know, When using Siri to send a text 
> message, the screen locks before completing the process.  It does not 
> matter how long the auto-lock is set.
>
> NOTE 1:
> If the message is short enough, only one word, for instance, Siri may 
> successfully send the text message.  It may also work the first time 
> you attempt to send a message after powering on the device.  However, 
> subsequent attempts with messages containing more than 5 words or so, 
> will time out before the message can be sent.
>
> To create the bug, do the following:
>
> NOTE 2:
> I use the center button on the included iPHone wired headset to 
> interact with Siri.
>
> 1.
> Launch Siri and say something like, "Send a message to Mark Taylor."  
> Siri will reply with something like, "You said, send a message to Mark
Taylor.
> OK.  I can send a message to Mark Taylor for you.  What would you like 
> it to say?"  At this point, a text message dialog box is displayed and 
> Siri will say something like, "To, Mark Taylor."
>
> 2.
> Initiate the Siri command and say something like, "Hi Mark.  How is 
> your day?  I hope you are well."  Siri will respond with something 
> like, "You said, Hi Mark.  How is your day?  I hope you are well.  I 
> updated your message.  Ready to send it?  Reply with cancel or send."
>
> NOTE 3:
> For me more often than not, the screen locks at this point, before I 
> can send the message.  I have also experienced the scenario when, 
> after initiating Siri and saying, "Send," Siri will respond with 
> something like, "You said Send.  Okay, I will send it for you," only 
> to lock the screen, losing the message before it can be sent.
>
> I strongly encourage those of you who have or can reproduce this bug 
> to either send a message to Apple at accessibil...@apple.com or call 
> their accessibility hotline at: 877-204-3930.
>
> Please feel free to use any part of this post.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:31 AM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Sending messages with Siri I'm having a problem
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have a problem sending messages with Siri? I am having 
> trouble telling it that it is okay and go ahead and send it
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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RE: i o s and visually impaired users

[Rose Combs]

Personally when searching for apps, I prefer using iTunes rather than the
phone, that said I generally perform all updates from the phone and if I am
away from the home computer I will use the phone in the App store.  It
probably has more to do with using a real keyboard for me.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users

Hi Ed and others. I actually answered my own dumb A** question last night. I
went into the App Store, changed the roter to headings, and sure enough, I
was able to navigate the search results properly. Before I did this, I used
to press and or hold down either side of the screen to navigate it, but 99%
of the time Voiceover didn't read the next or previous search result. So
thanks. It would be nice if we could tell our iPhones to keep it on headings
when we're in the App Store. Or like on the Mac, set an activity so that the
roter is automatically on headings. Thanks again.

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RE: Deleting Messages

[Rose Combs]

Works in messages, mail, contacts, music and maybe even more.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting Messages

Hi, Les,

I'm sorry; I misread your message. i don't think the method used in Mail
works in other parts of IOS6. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

HtH,
Teresa

On Sep 27, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> How does one delete messages as one can do with mail in IOS6?  I highlight
a message and swipe down, but I hear a character as my rotor is set to
characters.  I went through the Rotor Settings and didn't see a viable
option to make this work.  Am I missing something?
> 
> Les
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RE: Deleting Messages

[Rose Combs]

Trust me, it works in messages, and I am sure glad it does.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting Messages

Hi Teresa,

Okay, I'll try that again, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  When I swipe
down, I hear VO speak a character.  It works in Mail, but not in messages.

Les
On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Teresa Cochran 
wrote:

> Hi, Les,
> 
> There's no need to use the edit button or highlight the message. Once you
have your finger on it, simply swipe down, and you'll get two choices:
delete and default. You will need to do this with each message you want to
delete.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> On Sep 27, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
>> How does one delete messages as one can do with mail in IOS6?  I
highlight a message and swipe down, but I hear a character as my rotor is
set to characters.  I went through the Rotor Settings and didn't see a
viable option to make this work.  Am I missing something?
>> 
>> Les
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RE: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

[Rose Combs]

Yes, I was in a meeting a while back and suddenly my phone started talking
and I could not seem to shut it up no rink or text tone, just Voiceover,
thank goodness it was at a fairly low volume but it disturbed the people
right next to me, the next time I turned it all off so I like being able to
mute everything and still have the ability to collect messages and
voicemail.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

Nope, it's a long awaited feature. VO mutes itself after confirming that the
screen is locked. I really like it. No more sudden talking VO because I
forgot to three-finger double-tap VO mute on before flipping the mute switch
on my iPhone. For me, as a counsellor, this is sometimes critical,
especially when working with extremely anxious clients.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/09/2012, at 10:02, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

> Hi.
> Yes, that's a bug, it read them in iOS 5. If you claim it's not a bug, 
> then muting the phone completely should prevent VoiceOver from saying 
> 'screen locked' as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chris
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using 
> vibrate mode
> 
> That's not a bug that's a good thing as why would you want to know if 
> your screen is locked! The idea of mute mode is that, completely 
> muting the iPhone!
> 
> On 27/09/2012 20:34, Josh Eubank wrote:
>> When I set my iPhone 3GS running iOS 6 to vibrate mode, if I get a 
>> notification while the screen is locked, voiceover will not read it.
>> It will, however, if I have it in the regular mode with all the 
>> sounds turned on. Anyone else experiencing this? Thanks,
>> 
>> Josh
>> 
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RE: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

[Rose Combs]

I don't want it to speak when it is on mute.  If you thought that I am
sorry, I prefer silence when I push a button for silence.  Only thing is
sometimes I do not note the vibrations either but no big deal.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover not reading notifications in iOS 6 using vibrate mode

Rose, not looking to get people all spun up which happens sometimes when you
touch on certain issues or disagree, but I'm truly baffled by why people
want to have notifications spoken even when the phone is muted. The whole
point of the phone being muted is to prevent it from making noise, but yet
the vibration would alert you to the fact there is a call or some other
event that you should be aware of. So, why would you want the phone to not
play a sound and yet have VO babbling away. I cannot see the difference
between the phone making an alert sound or ringing than having Voiceover
chattering away. I think the change makes perfect sense and I'm glad APple
changed or corrected the behavior.

On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:

> No, however, I wish it did work that way!  
> 

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RE: Siri will not respond to questions when Voiceover is on

[Rose Combs]

I don't hear anything when I turn off Voice-over and use Siri, in fact, it
said absolutely nothing so I figured maybe she was not there.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri will not respond to questions when VoiceOver is on

Hi, when Voice Over is enabled you have to double-tap the listen button at
the bottom center of the screen to keep the conversation going. This is
because while Voice Over is enabled, Siri doesn't automagically speak just
in case Voice Over's own voice might interfere. It's honestly annoying the
way it does it, but it's always done it and I'm not sure of how Apple could
make this better. So for that reason if I am going to be using Siri for a
lot of things I just turn off Voice Over and do my thing.

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On 9/27/2012 7:48 PM, Chuck & Rhonda Carlson wrote:
> Siri will not respond to questions when I use it on iPad with VoiceOver.
> Instead it will say "you said" and restate my question. When I flick 
> right, VoiceOver will read the text box with my question and with 
> another flick will read the answer. However, when VoiceOver is off, 
> Siri will verbally respond with the answer to the question. Is this a 
> known issue and/or do I need to change any settings to correct the
problem.
>
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RE: Siri!

[Rose Combs]

I thanked her for setting an alarm last night and she said "your wish is my
command."  Too bad I can't ask her to clean house or drive me someplace or
bring me something.  


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Of reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:00 AM
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Subject: Siri!



Really cute. I asked Siri what the temperature was. She told me it was
eighty two and then said hot! 





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RE: Getting Started with Audible.com

[Rose Combs]

Yeah, I saw that, it may work but has not in my experience yet anyway.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Getting Started with Audible.com

Rose, there is a help file on the Audible site associated with the iPhone
and iPod app, and it says deleting a book can be accomplished by a
left-to-right swiping gesture to focus on the title and bring up the
"delete" button.  I have no idea if this gesture has a VoiceOver equivalent
as I have not yet downloaded the app.

Craig

On 6/23/12, Rose Combs  wrote:
> Yeah, I have never quite figured out how to delete books from the app, 
> generally if he is well, I let my husband do that, seems to be easy 
> for him.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Getting Started with Audible.com
>
> Hi,
>
> yes.  you can download books directly from the app.  I actually prefer 
> this to putting the books on my phone via iTunes.  As far as the 
> documentation, I didn't even know it existed.  lol.  The app is fairly 
> straight forward.
> Just play around with it.  The only things that is a bit round about 
> is deleting books once your done with them.
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>
> On Jun 23, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>
>> Mike et al, can the iPhone app take care of downloading books as well 
>> as reding them aloud?  Can one bypass the documentation on udible.com 
>> which, I believe, uses iTunes and a flavor of Audible Download 
>> Manager as the downloading mechanism?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On 6/23/12, Mike Maslo  wrote:
>>> Hi there I also right now use audible
>>>
>>> What kind of reading you looking for
>>>
>>> The iPhone app S is very easy to use ent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings to the list.
>>>>
>>>> I am a long-time subscriber to Audible.com and have decided to 
>>>> start reading Audible books on my iPhone.  Can anyone recommend 
>>>> some documentation or helpful reading as I embark?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
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RE: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch

[Rose Combs]

Depends on the podcast, some I wish I could speed up a lot, especially on
days when I have just a few minutes to listen,.  Slow talkers annoy me when
I am trying to get information quickly, which is always.  



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for iPhone, iPad,
and iPod touch

Yes, I find the fact that you can speed up podcasts up to be redundant,
since they're spoken word content, which in my view speeding that up hinders
consumption of the information.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for iPhone, iPad,
and iPod touch

What do you find redundant and stupid? The fact you can play the content at
1.5 or double the speed? Does this affect the consumption of the
information? I have to assume the playback speed is the same as the Music
app. I do wish Apple would allow 3X which would really move things along.

On Jun 26, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> The podcast app can play them at normal, 1.5, or double speed, for 
> anyone that would want that kind of thing. I personally find that to 
> be redundant and stupid, but that's just me.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Fred Olver
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for iPhone, 
> iPad, and iPod touch
> 
> Jim, turn your ears on fast speed.
> 
> Fred Olver
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Fettgather" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for iPhone, 
> iPad, and iPod touch
> 
> 
>> This app does not appear to have a way to adjust the speed at which 
>> the podcasts play.
>> This feature is absolutely critical.
>> Unless I am missing something.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/26/12, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> I wonder how accessible this is? I guess I'll have to try it. I 
>>> can't afford down catcher right now, so we will see.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Fred Olver
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:08 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fw: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for 
>>> iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: MacDailyNews 
>>> 
>>> To: goodfo...@charter.net
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:45 PM
>>> 
>>> Subject: [New post] Apple releases free 'Podcasts' app for iPhone, 
>>> iPad, and iPod touch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> New post on MacDailyNews
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> 2
>>> &ts=134
>>> 0739928>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> - for-iph one-ipad-and-ipod-touch/> Apple releases free 'Podcasts' 
>>> app for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> by   MacDailyNews
>>> 
>>> Apple has released "Podcasts," a free app designed for iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> Podcasts app is the easiest way to discover, subscribe to and play 
>>> your favorite podcasts on your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. Explore 
>>> hundreds of thousands of free audio and video podcasts from the 
>>> Podcasts Catalog, and play the most popular podcasts, organized for 
>>> you by topic, with the all-new Top Stations feature.
>>> 
>>> Features:
>>> 
>>> . Enjoy all of your audio and video podcasts in a single app . 
>>> Explore hundreds of thousands of podcasts including shows in over 40 
>>> languages . Try the innovative new Top Stations feature to find new 
>>> podcast series in a variety of topics, including arts, business, 
>>> comedy, music, news, sports, and more.
>>> . Browse by Audio or Video podcasts, or see what's most popular in 
>>> Top Charts . Tap subscribe for your favorites and automatically 
>>> receive new episodes for free as they become available . Stream 
>>> episodes or download to listen while offline . Skip forward and back 
>>> using simple playback controls . Turn on Sleep Timer to 
>>> automatically stop playing a podcast while listening in bed . Share 
>>> your favorite episodes with friends using Twitter, Messages and Mail 
>>> . Optionally sync your favorite episodes from iTunes on your Mac or 
>>> PC . Sync your episode playback for seamless transition between 
>>> devices
>>> 
>>> Requ

RE: downcast or ICatcher

[Rose Combs]

If you would like previous episodes of a particular podcast, how do you get
them, I can see "View previous episodes: and titles but then if I try to
download I hear "No episodes available, _ to refresh and I am not sure
what I need to do to make it refresh.  

The reason I downloaded downcast is to have the ability to speed up
podcasts.  I have to get things done and spending 2 hours to listen to
something I might like isn't an option.  Then again I generally read at
higher speeds also, although I have noticed the past year that I don't push
it as high as I once did.  .  Using iTunes on the computer is okay except
there is no way to speed up and using the music app to play does offer it
but it does not always work.  Also, 
I liked the AppleVis podcast on downcast.  

I tried the new one from apple, just did not care for the feel of it.  


You know, also, I note on most AppleVIS podcasts people flick from one item
to the next which often does not absolutely work, I generally just run a
finger down the screen to hear things, and in my favorites for the phone,
the five or six numbers I use regularly I can just judge where to touch and
get the right one.  People at work are amazed when I can pull up favorites
and tap the right number on the first try.  

Guess I am not good at flicking, and with it you must hear every item on the
screen, sometimes I don't have time to listen.  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Damashe Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: downcast or ICatcher

Hi,
I have been using downcast for the last year or so and really like it. The
developer is very responsive to feature requests as well as ensuring voice
over support. I haven't used iCatcher, though One of the more recently added
feature to downcast is the ability to import your own audio and video files
and create a personal podcast. I haven't used iCatcher so I can't speak
about it, though I have heard good things about it. I purchased downcast
first and have good experiences with the app. Maybe you should flip a coin.

- Original Message -
From: "Shane" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:38 AM
Subject: downcast or ICatcher


> Which one of these should Iget? Both seem to have the same feature set, so

> I don't believe I need both of them. Any suggestions would be most 
> appreciated.
>
> Shane
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RE: Wonderful customer service!

[Rose Combs]

Glad you're having good user experiences.  
In April 2011 when I got my phone, at the Verizon store to activate it etc,
I had to tell them how to bring up voice-over, no one knew it could be done.
Made me feel a bit insecure since the phone did not have buttons.  
Maybe things have changed in about 15 months.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wonderful customer service!

Actually my last experience at AT&T was also pretty positive. Again, the
sales person I was talking to knew a lot about VoiceOver and was willing to
spend quite a bit of time with me letting me play around and even showing me
some things I wasn't already aware of.

On 27/06/12 10:09, Chris Judd wrote:
> I had a great experience with verizon when I went to get my IPhone.
> The sales rep knew a lot about voice over, and some of the apps that 
> blind people use.  She helped me set voice over up, and was very nice, 
> and professional.
> Chris
> - Original Message - From: "Gail the U. S. Male"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:56 PM
> Subject: Wonderful customer service!
> 
> 
>> Hello list, I wrote a post to the list on Sunday, asking for help, 
>> trying to get a piece of an audio cable out of my iPhone four.  This 
>> is a followup! I took my Iphone down to the Apple store today, 
>> without an appointment.
>> I got
>> to see one of the guys at the Genius bar within half an hour.  He 
>> took my Phone, went to the back, and tried to get the tip out of the 
>> jack.  He then brought me the phone, was very apologetic, about his 
>> not being able to get the thing out of there!  He then told me about 
>> a company called I fixit, and found their website, filled out the 
>> form, that would have them call, or email me, instead of just writing 
>> down the information, which I offered for him, since I thought it 
>> would make it easier for him.  No, he wanted to make things as easy 
>> as possible for me, seeing that I was blind, he was very polite, and 
>> was as helpful as he could be, even after I told him my phone was out 
>> of warranty, and I didn't have Apple care, since I couldn't afford 
>> it, when it came close to the time for my warranty to run out.  I 
>> then told him I wanted to look at a couple of things. He said he'd 
>> hook me up with a sales representative, and for me to just stay where 
>> I was, while he took care of it.  He then came back, told me I was 
>> third in line, and that I should just hang out right there, until the 
>> man got to me.  I waited, probably 15 minutes more, watching the very 
>> large crowd of customers!
>> Then
>> I met Chris.  Again, he was very polite, asked lots of questions 
>> about what I wanted, and needed in a computer.  Now, I told the guy 
>> right up front, that I wasn't going to buy anything that day, and 
>> probably wouldn't be buying from that store, but buying something on 
>> EBay. He was totally fine with that, saying they didn't work on 
>> commission anyway, and he wanted to give me all the time, and 
>> information I needed, so that When the time to buy came, I had as 
>> much good information as I needed.  He even told me where the AT&T 
>> store was, right in the same mall, in case I decided to try and get a
>> simm card adapter, to put into an old phone I had.   He then took me
>> around
>> the store, showed me an IMac, a mac mini, and a macbook air. There 
>> was a big crowd around the Macbook pros.  He then asked me about 
>> buying a refurbished computer, and I told him that probably wasn't an 
>> option, but to tell me more about it.  He then showed me all the 
>> computers, read the special deals on the site, about refurbished 
>> machines, demonstrated speakers, sound, and other things I wanted to 
>> check.  I even looked at a couple of docking stations, to make sure 
>> that I could still hear voiceover through the dock, if I ended up 
>> buying one.  He even showed me a snazzy Bluetooth speaker. We had to 
>> take my Otterbox case apart, and he wanted to wipe the phone and case 
>> completely clean, before putting it back in it's case.  I said Ok.  
>> He then took the phone, then came back, and said he wanted to try one 
>> last time to get the tip of the plug out of the phone.  I said sure.  
>> He took the phone, did some working around, came back, all smiles, 
>> and said it was indeed my lucky day!  He had gotten the stupid piece 
>> out of the headphone Jack.  I spent quite a bit of time with him, and 
>> he was really fantastic!  This is a totally different experience than 
>> I have ever had before, from any computer store!  After all this, 
>> they didn't charge me one penny, for the time, and information I 
>> received.  He then took me out into the mall, called security, to 
>> help me find my way back out of it, and told the security guy where 

RE: Playback controls and Show Notes in the Apple podcast client

[Rose Combs]

I enjoy human voices also but I generally speed things up a notch or two and
when time is really limited and I am in a quiet place I push it to almost
the max, although I have noticed I don't push a book speed quite as high as
I once did, maybe almost turning 60 makes a bit of difference.  Maybe it is
just a lack of focus with so much family stuff in my life right now, serious
illnesses for my husband and his mother.  

Still, when I listen to podcasts on the computer and cannot speed them up I
find myself tapping my toes or walking away or turning it off because I know
I don't have the time to listen all the way through.  I only want to be
subscribed to a few since I can't keep up with them on a regular basis.  I
seem to have 80 unplayed in iTunes and every time I see that list grow I
groan, and that is only with Applevis, FS and some of the Hadley ones.  I
just want to delete everything and start over but itunes makes that next to
impossible.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Playback controls and Show Notes in the Apple podcast client

 

Hello Listers,

 

Sorry for the blank message, I am not very thrilled with that new Google
Groups interface yet. By the way Daniel, you apparently are watching list
traffic like a Hawk, I hardly realized I had sent the blank message when you
already commented on it *smile*

 

Anyhow, here a quick explanation for scott and those of you who haven't
found the place where you can speed up playback etc. Just like in the Music
App, double tap the main image of the Podcast screen when the Podcast is
playing and more controls show up, among them a scrubber bar where you can
change your playback position by flicking up and down, a sleep timer button
and the playback speed control. Just a quick test seems to move the playback
position by 10% of the Podcast length, this is a feature I always liked in
the Music App when playing an Audio Book. So, if your Podcast is 1 hour long
and you are at 3 minutes a flick up would advance the playback position by
approx. 6 minutes to 9 minutes. If you let it play for 2 minutes and are at
11 minutes and do another flick up you are advanced to approx. 17 minutes. 

 

Also, in the list of episodes there is a download and a "More Info" button
with each episode. If you double tap the More Info button you will have the
show notes on the screen that comes up which also includes the length of the
Podcast, the size in Mb etc. At this point if you flick right and come to
the end where the show notes are, they will read all in one big block of
text, but if you change the rotor to lines and flick up and down you can
move forward and backward through the show notes line by line.

 

I actually quite like the app as I discover more about it, it's probably
more simple than Downcast or iCatcher, but I listen to maybe 5 or 6 Podcasts
on a regular bases and I share Daniel's view regarding speeding up playback,
I just don't do it since I prefer to hear my Podcasts and Audio Books read
in "normal" human speech, the main reason why I also never listen to an
eBook, I am on the computer all day long and listen to Jaws and I don't need
more synthetic speech when I listen to a book for entertainment especially
given how many awesome readers Audible has. I sometimes enjoy a book I don't
really like as much just because the reader does such a fantastic job. I
think that even in 20 years there won't be computer speech good enough to
replace a human reader, a good thing, too!

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Fahrenheit app

[Rose Combs]

Sort of like  hearing sign F after some weather entries, my husband says it
shows a degree sign and the F for the temperature scale.  First few times I
heard that I was totally confused.  



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Monica Jones
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit app

Yeh, it's funny how it does that because, at first, you think you have 85
new items till you get used to it, lol.

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From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit app

Hi, a badge icon is the number which shows up after the name of the app.
The mail app is a good example. So, if you have 55 new messages, it will
say, Mail, 55 new items. The Fahrenheit app uses the badges to show the
current temperature. So, if it's 85 degrees out, it will say Fahrenheit,
85 new items.

Hope that helps.


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On 6/28/2012 9:38 AM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
> Sorry, not sure what a badge icon is; please explain and also how do 
> you get to it via touch?
> Paul
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Raul A. Gallegos 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Fahrenheit app
>
> Hi. By default it will show you the temperature as a badge icon on
> the home screen. To look at the forecast, just double tap the
> program on your home screen and when it opens it will show you the
> list. It uses location services to determine where you are. So if
> you have those enabled then it should work fine. If you disabled
> your location services, then you will have to add a location
> manually from within the app.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
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> On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:08 PM, "Paul Ferrara"
> mailto:paul.ferr...@insightbb.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Downloaded this app and can see the 7 or 10-day forecast; how do
>> you get it to tell you the temperature?
>> Paul
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RE: Fahrenheit app

[Rose Combs]

Better than 109 new items!  Is it October yet?  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fahrenheit app

The Current Temperature Push app does the same thing. I wish mine said
85 new items, grin. As it is, yesterday it said 100 new items.

Wayne

On 6/28/12, Monica Jones  wrote:
> Yeh, it's funny how it does that because, at first, you think you have 
> 85 new items till you get used to it, lol.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fahrenheit app
>
> Hi, a badge icon is the number which shows up after the name of the app.
> The mail app is a good example. So, if you have 55 new messages, it 
> will say, Mail, 55 new items. The Fahrenheit app uses the badges to 
> show the current temperature. So, if it's 85 degrees out, it will say 
> Fahrenheit,
> 85 new items.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
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> On 6/28/2012 9:38 AM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
>> Sorry, not sure what a badge icon is; please explain and also how do 
>> you get to it via touch?
>> Paul
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Raul A. Gallegos 
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:54 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Fahrenheit app
>>
>> Hi. By default it will show you the temperature as a badge icon on
>> the home screen. To look at the forecast, just double tap the
>> program on your home screen and when it opens it will show you the
>> list. It uses location services to determine where you are. So if
>> you have those enabled then it should work fine. If you disabled
>> your location services, then you will have to add a location
>> manually from within the app.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:08 PM, "Paul Ferrara"
>> mailto:paul.ferr...@insightbb.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Downloaded this app and can see the 7 or 10-day forecast; how do
>>> you get it to tell you the temperature?
>>> Paul
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RE: Greedy Apple?

[Rose Combs]

Use the Audible app if you can, books are the only thing I understand you
cannot get back through I tunes.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of sen...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:26 AM
To: ViPhone
Subject: Greedy Apple?

I used to love Apple. But after we lost Steve, it seems Apple has gone
greedy! Not happy to be the worlds largest and richest company, they have
started cheating! Pity. Why do they have to resort to this when they have
millions who will gladly part with their hard earned bucks? 
I purchase an audio book. After that, my iphone fell into a swimming pool. I
bought a new one. When I pride to restore the audio books I had purchased
earlier onto my new phone, they wanted to charge me again! Many phone calls
and emails later, the issue is still unresolved! I have the store receipts
and have paid with my card. But Apple has amnesia. They keep sending me from
pillar to post.  i just cannot get my audio books back. I have paid for
them. I   am at my wits end. Why are my paid purchases being denied us. 
 I wonder how many others like me keep silent and just pay again. Buy peace.

Shame Apple! One rotten apple is probably spoiling the rest.
Help! Get me any other accessible phone. At least Talks never cheated us. :(
Please.  

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RE: Hi guys

[Rose Combs]

You might like vokul, as a texting Ap, it works which is more than I can say
for some.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hi guys

Hey guys. Some of you may know me from the Mac Visionaries list. To everyone
else that isn't subscribed to it, nice meeting you all. I just got my Iphone
4 in January and like it. Still kicking myself for not waiting until I could
get a 4S because it wasn't in stores. Yeah, I could've ordered it, but I've
had the hassle of ordering my other phone which was a Nokia Talks phone.
Also, I didn't like the service that Rogers gave to me, so I switched to
MTS. Anyway, getting back on topic here, like my phone but wish it were the
4S. I like being able to talk to my phone like you can with Siri. I hope
that some day they'll release it for us people using the 4. I have an app
called Voice Answer, which pretty much does the same thing as Siri, but she
reads your texts out to you before you send them. The only thing I don't
like about the App is when I say that I want to text my friend Sharlene, it
doesn't recognize the name. Anyway, I hope I can contribute to this list.

Shawn

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RE: eyenote

[Rose Combs]

Get Looktel Money instead,.  


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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: eyenote

I downloaded eyenote, the app that reads money, and couldn't seem to get it
to work.  I held my bill about 6 inches in front of the camera and tapped
the screen.  It clicked like it was taking a picture but then just said
error reposition.  What can I do to get this app to work.  Any help would be
appreciated.

JoJo 

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IPhone frustration

[Rose Combs]

OK, I have had an iPhone for about 15 months and have had some frustrating
moments but tonight it seemed I was trying to get the Google shortcut to go
on the first page of my home screen.  Very long story as to why, let's just
say in the infinite wisdom of the IT people at my job, I lost all internet
access because the put 8 on yesterday and Jaws 9 which is the last version
they bought (they insisted they had to pay for 8t) does not work with IE 8.
May or may not be able to be fixed I hear due to security reasons.  I use
the internet and Google a lot since all the books we used to rely on were
tossed by a previous supervisor since we had the Internet.  So I wanted a
quick way to Google and I wanted it on the first screen.  

I made such a mess trying to move things that I reset the home screen.  Then
I ended up with Newsstand on the first page had had to move it I only have 4
pages of apps so I moved it to page 5 where I don't go.  Tried to move the
game center and You Tube there also since I don't use either, or at least I
have not for the last 15 months.  I sure wish they would make moving easier,
I was using the dock, but still crossing pages with an app, putting stocks
in the utilities folder since I may use that about once a year when my
husband can't seem to find what he wants on his android phone.  Game Center
would not go to that folder, it would not go to page 5, and yet, I have
never played any game where I used it, normally I don't have a lot of time
for games, so I have things that you can play and leave in a matter of
minutes or even seconds, nothing to mind intensive, mostly just time wasters
when waiting for something.  

I will not use Newsstand because so much of the content is not usable, I
don't intend to play online games with the phone, I have a computer where I
could do that if I wanted.  

So Why do they make it so difficult to move something I am never going to
open or use off to someplace like page 11 of my home screens.  Unlike many,
I don't have hundreds of apps, I don't want hundreds of them either.  Then I
got two weather folders, not apps for some reason.  

Now I have to go concentrate on Safari, I seldom use it and am not really
familiar with that rotor or reordering it so I can do my job as efficiently
as possible, and I need to be sure the extra cord is in my purse or I will
have no battery.  

I know, a  long note, just a bit frustrated that in trying to reorganize a
few things I spent four hours trying to get it like I wanted and even then
some things are not right.  Music is floating around somewhere, at the
moment I am not sure what screen it ended up on so I could use the doc, and
my temperature app everyone has been discussing today is in the dock because
I want it on the first screen and have not figured what else I can move off
of there since I can't just delete it.  

Just had to growl a little, don't really expect anyone to reply.  Most of
the time I like my phone a lot but tonight or this morning is not one of
those times.  

Rose 
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RE: IPhone frustration

[Rose Combs]

Actually, I knew what to do, just having problems getting it all to work,
have done it before, but last night either my brain was not working or my
fingers were not working.  Thanks, I was more or less just talking to let
someone know since I have no one to talk to at home at the moment.  Blowing
off steam!



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone frustration

Hello:
I'm not sure what all your questions were, but I'll try to help.
First, to move something, you double tap like you do in the app switcher to
get where you can dismiss items, but on the second tap you move things
around. What I'll do is if I want to move something to another page, I'll
get on the item (by touching it or by swiping to it), then I'll take my
finger to the right of the screen and do that two-tap and hold deal. Then
you can move all the way left. That's how I move things around between
pages. If you want to move stuff out of folders, it's the same deal--two tap
and hold, then move it to the left. Once you move everything out of the
folder it's in the folder will go away. Something else worth noting, to
clear up clutter on my screens, I just jump all the ios crap I never use
into a folder and if I ever want it I can move it back out. Only thing worth
noting is voiceover gets confused (or maybe it is IOS itself), so it'll say
like 5 pages when you have 4. Just lock your screen, unlock and you're set.
HTH,
On 6/30/2012 8:43 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
> OK, I have had an iPhone for about 15 months and have had some 
> frustrating moments but tonight it seemed I was trying to get the 
> Google shortcut to go on the first page of my home screen.  Very long 
> story as to why, let's just say in the infinite wisdom of the IT 
> people at my job, I lost all internet access because the put 8 on 
> yesterday and Jaws 9 which is the last version they bought (they insisted
they had to pay for 8t) does not work with IE 8.
> May or may not be able to be fixed I hear due to security reasons.  I 
> use the internet and Google a lot since all the books we used to rely 
> on were tossed by a previous supervisor since we had the Internet.  So 
> I wanted a quick way to Google and I wanted it on the first screen.
>
> I made such a mess trying to move things that I reset the home screen.  
> Then I ended up with Newsstand on the first page had had to move it I 
> only have 4 pages of apps so I moved it to page 5 where I don't go.  
> Tried to move the game center and You Tube there also since I don't 
> use either, or at least I have not for the last 15 months.  I sure 
> wish they would make moving easier, I was using the dock, but still 
> crossing pages with an app, putting stocks in the utilities folder 
> since I may use that about once a year when my husband can't seem to 
> find what he wants on his android phone.  Game Center would not go to 
> that folder, it would not go to page 5, and yet, I have never played 
> any game where I used it, normally I don't have a lot of time for 
> games, so I have things that you can play and leave in a matter of 
> minutes or even seconds, nothing to mind intensive, mostly just time
wasters when waiting for something.
>
> I will not use Newsstand because so much of the content is not usable, 
> I don't intend to play online games with the phone, I have a computer 
> where I could do that if I wanted.
>
> So Why do they make it so difficult to move something I am never going 
> to open or use off to someplace like page 11 of my home screens.  
> Unlike many, I don't have hundreds of apps, I don't want hundreds of 
> them either.  Then I got two weather folders, not apps for some reason.
>
> Now I have to go concentrate on Safari, I seldom use it and am not 
> really familiar with that rotor or reordering it so I can do my job as 
> efficiently as possible, and I need to be sure the extra cord is in my 
> purse or I will have no battery.
>
> I know, a  long note, just a bit frustrated that in trying to 
> reorganize a few things I spent four hours trying to get it like I 
> wanted and even then some things are not right.  Music is floating 
> around somewhere, at the moment I am not sure what screen it ended up 
> on so I could use the doc, and my temperature app everyone has been 
> discussing today is in the dock because I want it on the first screen 
> and have not figured what else I can move off of there since I can't just
delete it.
>
> Just had to growl a little, don't really expect anyone to reply.  Most 
> of the time I like my phone a lot but tonight or this morning is not 
> one of thos

RE: IPhone frustration

[Rose Combs]

All done, even found the music Ap which I had shunted over to page 6, it was
the only thing there got everything moved where I want until I buy more apps
or get them free.  
So nice not to have News stand on the front page and to have put game center
next to it on page 5 for now.  I don't think I have ever had more than four
pages, because if it does not work I keep it on the computer but not on the
phone, same thing if it is an app I don't use for anything because I found
one that was better.  I think I may have 40 apps on the phone.  

Then again, I don't have FaceBook or Twitter, working and no time to play
with social networking, would like to someday but not possible right now.  

Thanks for listening to my frustration, I was tired and stressed and not
getting results probably because I was moving too fast.  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone frustration

Rose,

Tell you what I'd do for the moment, and remember this is only for as long
as you don't get round to moving all appps:

I'd double up an item from the dock with another, thus creating a doc space.

Never mind that you then have a folder for, say, music and something else.

I'd then get this shortcut into that dock position on whatever page it
currently is sitting, then you have it on all pages.

Eventually you can sort things more to your own liking.

Hope this helps!  It does save tiredness and frustration, believe me!

Carol P

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From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:43 PM
Subject: IPhone frustration


>
> OK, I have had an iPhone for about 15 months and have had some frustrating
> moments but tonight it seemed I was trying to get the Google shortcut to 
> go
> on the first page of my home screen.  Very long story as to why, let's 
> just
> say in the infinite wisdom of the IT people at my job, I lost all internet
> access because the put 8 on yesterday and Jaws 9 which is the last version
> they bought (they insisted they had to pay for 8t) does not work with IE 
> 8.
> May or may not be able to be fixed I hear due to security reasons.  I use
> the internet and Google a lot since all the books we used to rely on were
> tossed by a previous supervisor since we had the Internet.  So I wanted a
> quick way to Google and I wanted it on the first screen.
>
> I made such a mess trying to move things that I reset the home screen. 
> Then
> I ended up with Newsstand on the first page had had to move it I only have

> 4
> pages of apps so I moved it to page 5 where I don't go.  Tried to move the
> game center and You Tube there also since I don't use either, or at least 
> I
> have not for the last 15 months.  I sure wish they would make moving 
> easier,
> I was using the dock, but still crossing pages with an app, putting stocks
> in the utilities folder since I may use that about once a year when my
> husband can't seem to find what he wants on his android phone.  Game 
> Center
> would not go to that folder, it would not go to page 5, and yet, I have
> never played any game where I used it, normally I don't have a lot of time
> for games, so I have things that you can play and leave in a matter of
> minutes or even seconds, nothing to mind intensive, mostly just time 
> wasters
> when waiting for something.
>
> I will not use Newsstand because so much of the content is not usable, I
> don't intend to play online games with the phone, I have a computer where 
> I
> could do that if I wanted.
>
> So Why do they make it so difficult to move something I am never going to
> open or use off to someplace like page 11 of my home screens.  Unlike 
> many,
> I don't have hundreds of apps, I don't want hundreds of them either.  Then

> I
> got two weather folders, not apps for some reason.
>
> Now I have to go concentrate on Safari, I seldom use it and am not really
> familiar with that rotor or reordering it so I can do my job as 
> efficiently
> as possible, and I need to be sure the extra cord is in my purse or I will
> have no battery.
>
> I know, a  long note, just a bit frustrated that in trying to reorganize a
> few things I spent four hours trying to get it like I wanted and even then
> some things are not right.  Music is floating around somewhere, at the
> moment I am not sure what screen it ended up on so I could use the doc, 
> and
> my temperature app everyone has been discussing today is in the dock 
> because
> I want it on the first screen and have not figured what else I can move 
> off
> of there since I can't just delete it.
>
> Just had 

RE: Problem with Looktell Money Reader

[Rose Combs]

Looktel Money reader is the only thing my camera seems to work with except
when I got a wonderful picture of my finger when I did not intend to take a
picture at all.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Looktell Money Reader

Hey Daniel,

Yes, I normally leave my brightness at 0 and the screen curtain on. I set it
to 50 just now, and made sure the screen curtain is off, and still nothing
whatsoever happens. In fact I have never, ever had a scrap of currency read
to me in Looktel. It's not that it's "unreliable" for me, it's that it
simply doesn't work at all. :)

I would have thought my phone is simply defective, and yet truthfully I
don't have problems with other apps such as VizWiz and oMoby, and I've never
had any complaints about the pictures in my camera roll!
It's the most...peculiar thing.

Grant

On 6/30/12, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Keep in mind, grant, that your brightness level has something to do 
> with the camera being able to recognize the bills. I've done some 
> tests with the brightness at 0, and nada, and then when I turned it to 
> 50%, it worked flawlessly. Also, perhaps you're not hodling the bill 
> and phone the right way?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Looktell Money Reader
>
> I really am curious why some have had issues and others have not. In 
> fact I recently used this app to identify some money I was given. 
> These bills included a fifty and a couple of hundreds. I had to sort 
> through a pile of bills to break the fifty and I was able to sort 
> through some twenties, tens, and ones. Very curious and I also had 
> used this app on an iPHone 4 and currently a 4S.
>
> On Jun 30, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>
>> Absolutely, it's super unreliable for me too! I've posted about this 
>> a few times in the past. I've been unable to resolve it either. 64 GB 
>> iPhone 4S here.
>>
>> Grant
>>
>> On 6/30/12, k7rx...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> When I had this app loaded on my old 3GS, it worked perfectly.  Now 
>>> that I have it on my 4S, it is very unreliable.  Has anyone else had 
>>> this problem and how did you cure it?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin :)
>>> Amateur Radio:  K7RX
>>>
>>>
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RE: Downcast? And, any other pod catchers?

[Rose Combs]

I could be wrong, but at the bottom of the first 100, I think there is a
button that says get next 100, I have only had the app a week and so I am
not absolute about it but it seemed to me that I did see it when I was
searching for something else.  

I like Downcast much better than I did iTunes or the new podcast from Apple.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chasity Jackson
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downcast? And, any other pod catchers?

Hi. I currently use downcast to subscribe to and listen to podcasts. When I
browse the various categories, it only displays the first hundred results in
each category. I am wondering if anyone knows how to display more results
than that? Also, are there other recommendations for other pod catchers out
there that might be better to use than downcast? Thanks.
Chasity 

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RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

My only complaint, from hearsay on podcasts is that you can't use it
directly with e-mail or texting, you have to copy and paste which is a
problem for me.  That said I just downloaded it to see how it works later.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

Dave, i heard a demo by David Woodbridge, I believe it's on the Applevis
site.  It was really impressive.  If you know the query keyboard, you'll do
fine with this.  Mr. Woodbridge tried to make mistakes in order to
demonstrate how to correct a word, and he had a hard time making errors.
That sold me on the program because I cannot type as fast as I think I will
once I master this app.  Like anything else, I'm sure it will take some
practice before becoming proficient.

Les
On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Dave Bahr wrote:

> so I guess I don't see the point of this ap. from the description, it
seems like it is harder to use because you can easily tap the wrong letters.
it would be nice if they had a trial of it before buying the thing. has
anyone had success with it? seems clunky, but maybe I'm judging a book by
it's cover.
> 
> Dave C. Bahr
> Facebook: Dave Bahr
> Twitter: dcbahr
> 
> On 7/12/2012 10:47 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>> What is fleksy?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Richard Turner" > To: > Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:44:16 -0700
>> Subject: FW: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> I just receive this notice.
>> It is basically $15.00.
>> 
>> 
>> _
>> 
>> From: Fleksy Team [mailto:team=fleksy@createsend2.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Fleksy Team
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31 PM
>> To: Richard Turner
>> Subject: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for registering in our mailing list to be the first to hear 
>> about Fleksy's launch in the App Store.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are pleased to announce Fleksy is now available to download worldwide.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is the link:
>> 
>> http://fleksy.com/app
>> > 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We see this launch as the first step in our plan to revolutionize the 
>> typing experience on touch-screen devices. Stay tuned for many 
>> updates coming up very soon too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And as always, please send us your feedback and questions to 
>> feedb...@fleksy.com . We respond to every email we receive, and we 
>> will improve the app continuously with your feedback.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ioannis Verdelis
>> 
>> Co-Founder and COO
>> 
>> www.syntellia.com
>> 
>> This email was sent to rich...@turner42.com. If you are no longer 
>> interested you can unsubscribe 
>>  instantly.
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RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

Yes but didn't you need to sop that message into an e-mail?  If so that sort
of defeats the reason for the ap.  Have not had time to look at it yet.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

Hi all, 
 
I am typing this with Fleksy, and I have to say I am pretty impressed! 
 
It does take a little time to get the hang of it, but I was typing quickly
in about 10 minutes. End I seem to get faster and faster. 
 
Two things to know, if you are using a blue tooth headset, you can hold your
hand over the screen to have your text read back to you, and be careful not
to go to high on the screen when swipeing or you May engage the notification
center. 
 
Have fun! 

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RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

That would be a problem for me since generally when I want to be fast is
when texting one friend especially since she usually has a text message to
me before I can answer the first one especially if I am not home where the
Bluetooth keyboard is.  If I can't implement it from text or something what
good will this do me except as a toy to play with.  

I bought it mostly to support a company who is doing work that should
benefit us all, and unless there is an easy way to text or e-mail, not that
I use my phone for that much, or to make notes of things, enter calender
events more quickly, for me it is just showing some support for the vendor.


Now if one can actually send the text quickly without having to switch back
and forth, copying, pasting etc, then I would gladly sing its praises.  

Disappointed but not surprised that Apple won't let this work the way it
should.  It is the only thing I dislike about Vokul, once I get an answer in
the message Ap I have to return to it or, which is usually the case,
struggle with the phone keyboard and get three more responses before I can
manage to send a coherent one back.  

If I could get the Refreshabraille to actually work it might be easier but
it is one more think I would have to carry in a purse that now is heavier
than I would like.  

Fleksy is my birthday present to myself, more of a donation to keep the
vendor going than for my personal use I think despite all the great things
it does, no integration means it is likely I won't use it.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Moore
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I got
bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some reason I really
wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  After 30 seconds of
using it I have to say instantly I am very impressed!  I am typing like I
was when I first got the iPhone back in 2008 (I had vision then).  This
input method is quite accurate, intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see
this actually implemented directly into the OS.

I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy messages.
I don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence why I
would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.

This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it up
and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong word, you can
easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping down.  Punctuation is
so much easier too.

Chris 

ps I used the application to type this message!
Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:

> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Les Kriegler" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
> 
> 
> Hi Jessica,
> 
> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What this 
> means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a swipe to 
> the right inserts the word followed by a space character and it is 
> verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you continue typing the 
> next word.  If the word is not correct, you can swipe up and I believe 
> down to hopefully find the word you want and it will be entered.  It 
> is important to note that when you begin typing, VoiceOver must be 
> unloaded, as speech is generated by Fleksy.  I also downloaded the app and
look forward to learning it.
> 
> Les
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jessica Brown wrote:
> 
>> What is fleksy?
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Richard Turner" > To: > Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:44:16 -0700
>> Subject: FW: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> I just receive this notice.
>> It is basically $15.00.
>> 
>> 
>> _
>> 
>> From: Fleksy Team [mailto:team=fleksy@createsend2.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Fleksy Team
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31 PM
>> To: Richard Turner
>> Subject: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you for registering in our mailing list to be the first to hear 
>> about Fleksy's launch in the App Store.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are pleased to announce Fleksy is now available to download worldwide.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is the link:
>> 
>> http://fleksy.com/app
>> > 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We see this launch as the first step in our plan to revolutionize the 
>> typing experience on touch-screen devices. Stay tuned for many 
>> updates coming up very soon too.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And as always, please 

RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

So do I, and it might take me 30 seconds to type a message and 10 to cut and
copy, and generally my texting is regarding transportation, or someone who
is doing me a favor, shopping etc, don't have the time to spend that kind of
time trying to get it where it belongs to send.  

I realize this is an Apple restriction, much as I love my iPhone and use it
for many things, I want integration not segmentation.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

I assume you type a message then cut/paste into whatever application?

On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:

> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I got
bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some reason I really
wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  After 30 seconds of
using it I have to say instantly I am very impressed!  I am typing like I
was when I first got the iPhone back in 2008 (I had vision then).  This
input method is quite accurate, intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see
this actually implemented directly into the OS.
> 
> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy messages.
I don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence why I
would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.
> 
> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it up
and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong word, you can
easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping down.  Punctuation is
so much easier too.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ps I used the application to type this message!
> Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:
> 
>> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Les Kriegler" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jessica,
>> 
>> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
>> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
>> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What this 
>> means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a swipe to 
>> the right inserts the word followed by a space character and it is 
>> verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you continue typing 
>> the next word.  If the word is not correct, you can swipe up and I 
>> believe down to hopefully find the word you want and it will be 
>> entered.  It is important to note that when you begin typing, 
>> VoiceOver must be unloaded, as speech is generated by Fleksy.  I also
downloaded the app and look forward to learning it.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> What is fleksy?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Richard Turner" >> To: >> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:44:16 -0700
>>> Subject: FW: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> I just receive this notice.
>>> It is basically $15.00.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _
>>> 
>>> From: Fleksy Team [mailto:team=fleksy@createsend2.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Fleksy Team
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31 PM
>>> To: Richard Turner
>>> Subject: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for registering in our mailing list to be the first to 
>>> hear about Fleksy's launch in the App Store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are pleased to announce Fleksy is now available to download
worldwide.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is the link:
>>> 
>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We see this launch as the first step in our plan to revolutionize 
>>> the typing experience on touch-screen devices. Stay tuned for many 
>>> updates coming up very soon too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And as always, please send us your feedback and questions to 
>>> feedb...@fleksy.com . We respond to every email we receive, and we 
>>> will improve the app continuously with your feedback.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ioannis Verdelis
>>> 
>>> Co-Founder and COO
>>> 
>>> www.syntellia.com
>>> 
>>> This email was sent to rich...@turner42.com. If you are no longer 
>>> interested you can unsubscribe 
>>>  instantly.
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Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Morales]

Hi Rose, 
You can send texts from within this app. All you have to do is add the numbers 
you frequently text to your favorites in the settings app. Those numbers show 
up in the actions menu when you're done typing. I've been texting my husband 
all day with this app and I love it. 
Hope this helps, 
Rose w. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:19 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> So do I, and it might take me 30 seconds to type a message and 10 to cut and
> copy, and generally my texting is regarding transportation, or someone who
> is doing me a favor, shopping etc, don't have the time to spend that kind of
> time trying to get it where it belongs to send.  
> 
> I realize this is an Apple restriction, much as I love my iPhone and use it
> for many things, I want integration not segmentation.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
> 
> I assume you type a message then cut/paste into whatever application?
> 
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I got
> bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some reason I really
> wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  After 30 seconds of
> using it I have to say instantly I am very impressed!  I am typing like I
> was when I first got the iPhone back in 2008 (I had vision then).  This
> input method is quite accurate, intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see
> this actually implemented directly into the OS.
>> 
>> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy messages.
> I don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence why I
> would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.
>> 
>> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it up
> and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong word, you can
> easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping down.  Punctuation is
> so much easier too.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> ps I used the application to type this message!
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Les Kriegler" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Jessica,
>>> 
>>> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
>>> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
>>> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What this 
>>> means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a swipe to 
>>> the right inserts the word followed by a space character and it is 
>>> verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you continue typing 
>>> the next word.  If the word is not correct, you can swipe up and I 
>>> believe down to hopefully find the word you want and it will be 
>>> entered.  It is important to note that when you begin typing, 
>>> VoiceOver must be unloaded, as speech is generated by Fleksy.  I also
> downloaded the app and look forward to learning it.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is fleksy?
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Richard Turner" >>> To: >>> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:44:16 -0700
>>>> Subject: FW: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>>> 
>>>> I just receive this notice.
>>>> It is basically $15.00.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _
>>>> 
>>>> From: Fleksy Team [mailto:team=fleksy@createsend2.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Fleksy Team
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31 PM
>>>> To: Richard Turner
>>>> Subject: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for registering in our mailing list to be the first to 
>>>> hear about Fleksy's launch in the App Store.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>&

RE: Cribbage pro

[Rose Combs]

So, what is a Jack of trump,?  I have played cribbage before a lot before my
mother-in-law got ill, don't remember any trump in the game, however. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RDLAW
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cribbage pro

I would niecey but I just started playing last night and I still struggle a
little with how the screen is set up.
- Original Message -
From: "Lynette Frison" <1baby1...@gmail.com>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 02:41 PM
Subject: Cribbage pro


Hi all,

i'm loving cribbage pro. :) Although I enjoy some of the RPG's and other
games for the iphone, card games are by far my favourite. now if only we
could have accessible euchre or poker. if anyone wants to add me as a friend
and has signed up for a cribbage pro account, my username is NeoHippie. I
haven't tried playing a multiplayer game yet, because everyone online looks
like they're way out of my league. lol it's probably been 15 years at least
since I played crib, but i'm having fun anyway.

Lynette

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RE: Cribbage pro

[Rose Combs]

I remember the knobs, even though it  has probably been 20 years since we
played.  
Thanks. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cribbage pro

That is when a Jack in a hand matches the suit of the overturned card.
If a Jack is cut at the start of play, that is Nobs, worth two points to the
dealer.
HTH,
Richard

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:31 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> So, what is a Jack of trump,?  I have played cribbage before a lot 
> before my mother-in-law got ill, don't remember any trump in the game,
however.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of RDLAW
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cribbage pro
> 
> I would niecey but I just started playing last night and I still 
> struggle a little with how the screen is set up.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lynette Frison" <1baby1...@gmail.com>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 02:41 PM
> Subject: Cribbage pro
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> i'm loving cribbage pro. :) Although I enjoy some of the RPG's and 
> other games for the iphone, card games are by far my favourite. now if 
> only we could have accessible euchre or poker. if anyone wants to add 
> me as a friend and has signed up for a cribbage pro account, my 
> username is NeoHippie. I haven't tried playing a multiplayer game yet, 
> because everyone online looks like they're way out of my league. lol 
> it's probably been 15 years at least since I played crib, but i'm having
fun anyway.
> 
> Lynette
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

And you message made no sense to me either! 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Maslo
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

The propose of this email is what? 
 
Complaining is getting you where? Use it or don't but stop complaining. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:13 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> That would be a problem for me since generally when I want to be fast 
> is when texting one friend especially since she usually has a text 
> message to me before I can answer the first one especially if I am not 
> home where the Bluetooth keyboard is.  If I can't implement it from 
> text or something what good will this do me except as a toy to play with.
> 
> I bought it mostly to support a company who is doing work that should 
> benefit us all, and unless there is an easy way to text or e-mail, not 
> that I use my phone for that much, or to make notes of things, enter 
> calender events more quickly, for me it is just showing some support for
the vendor.
> 
> 
> Now if one can actually send the text quickly without having to switch 
> back and forth, copying, pasting etc, then I would gladly sing its
praises.
> 
> Disappointed but not surprised that Apple won't let this work the way 
> it should.  It is the only thing I dislike about Vokul, once I get an 
> answer in the message Ap I have to return to it or, which is usually 
> the case, struggle with the phone keyboard and get three more 
> responses before I can manage to send a coherent one back.
> 
> If I could get the Refreshabraille to actually work it might be easier 
> but it is one more think I would have to carry in a purse that now is 
> heavier than I would like.
> 
> Fleksy is my birthday present to myself, more of a donation to keep 
> the vendor going than for my personal use I think despite all the 
> great things it does, no integration means it is likely I won't use it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
> 
> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I 
> got bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some 
> reason I really wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  
> After 30 seconds of using it I have to say instantly I am very 
> impressed!  I am typing like I was when I first got the iPhone back in 
> 2008 (I had vision then).  This input method is quite accurate, 
> intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see this actually implemented
directly into the OS.
> 
> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy messages.
> I don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence 
> why I would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.
> 
> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it 
> up and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong 
> word, you can easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping 
> down.  Punctuation is so much easier too.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ps I used the application to type this message!
> Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:
> 
>> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Les Kriegler" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jessica,
>> 
>> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
>> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
>> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What this 
>> means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a swipe to 
>> the right inserts the word followed by a space character and it is 
>> verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you continue typing 
>> the next word.  If the word is not correct, you can swipe up and I 
>> believe down to hopefully find the word you want and it will be 
>> entered.  It is important to note that when you begin typing, 
>> VoiceOver must be unloaded, as speech is generated by Fleksy.  I also 
>> downloaded the app and
> look forward to learning it.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> What is fleksy?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>&

RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

I reply, wish I could type faster on the phone, give me a real keyboard and
I can do it in no time but copying and pasting on the iPhone has thus far
been a lesson on how to be frustrated and I don't have time to practice
those gestures for more than a few minutes in any given day.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Maslo
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

Wow you have to be joking you don't have thirty seconds to write a text
message? How long does it take you to respond to a message normally? 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:19 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> So do I, and it might take me 30 seconds to type a message and 10 to 
> cut and copy, and generally my texting is regarding transportation, or 
> someone who is doing me a favor, shopping etc, don't have the time to 
> spend that kind of time trying to get it where it belongs to send.
> 
> I realize this is an Apple restriction, much as I love my iPhone and 
> use it for many things, I want integration not segmentation.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
> 
> I assume you type a message then cut/paste into whatever application?
> 
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Chris Moore 
wrote:
> 
>> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  
>> I got
> bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some reason I 
> really wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  After 30 
> seconds of using it I have to say instantly I am very impressed!  I am 
> typing like I was when I first got the iPhone back in 2008 (I had 
> vision then).  This input method is quite accurate, intuitive and 
> enjoyable. I would love to see this actually implemented directly into the
OS.
>> 
>> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy
messages.
> I don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence 
> why I would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.
>> 
>> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked 
>> it up
> and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong word, 
> you can easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping down.  
> Punctuation is so much easier too.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> ps I used the application to type this message!
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Les Kriegler" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Jessica,
>>> 
>>> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
>>> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
>>> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What 
>>> this means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a 
>>> swipe to the right inserts the word followed by a space character 
>>> and it is verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you 
>>> continue typing the next word.  If the word is not correct, you can 
>>> swipe up and I believe down to hopefully find the word you want and 
>>> it will be entered.  It is important to note that when you begin 
>>> typing, VoiceOver must be unloaded, as speech is generated by 
>>> Fleksy.  I also
> downloaded the app and look forward to learning it.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is fleksy?
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Richard Turner" >>> To: >>> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:44:16 -0700
>>>> Subject: FW: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>>> 
>>>> I just receive this notice.
>>>> It is basically $15.00.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _
>>>> 
>>>> From: Fleksy Team [mailto:team=fleksy@createsend2.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Fleksy Team
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31 PM
>>>> To: Richard Turner
>>>> Subject: Fleksy is no

RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

Will the app transport over from the contacts?  Do I have to enter them
manually?  

I really hope for some integration here as typing in loads of numbers on the
iPhone is not something I wish to do at any time.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

Scott,

You can copy and paste but you also have options for email, text, tweet, and
if you configure some favorite phone numbers and or email addresses in
settings, those become choices as well.  It's a fantastic app.  I've been
using it from the beginning when it was first in beta.  I'm no speed demon
on the touch keyboard, but I can honestly say that with this app, I can type
as fast as a sighted person.  Those folks that seem to be able to type 60WPM
on the touch KB won't need this but if you are not a speed typist on the
iPhone, this app is fabulous.

I agree with everyone that says it would be much more worthwhile if it were
available as a keyboard choice, but that's the way it is for now with Apple.

I can understand the hesitation to pay $15 for something without having the
chance to try it out.  A demo version would be great but that's up to the
developer.

Best,

Rick



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

I assume you type a message then cut/paste into whatever application?

On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:

> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I 
> got
bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some reason I really
wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  After 30 seconds of
using it I have to say instantly I am very impressed!  I am typing like I
was when I first got the iPhone back in 2008 (I had vision then).  This
input method is quite accurate, intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see
this actually implemented directly into the OS.
> 
> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy messages.
I don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence why I
would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.
> 
> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it 
> up
and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong word, you can
easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping down.  Punctuation is
so much easier too.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ps I used the application to type this message!
> Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:
> 
>> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Les Kriegler" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jessica,
>> 
>> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
>> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
>> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What this 
>> means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a swipe to 
>> the right inserts the word followed by a space character and it is 
>> verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you continue typing 
>> the next word.  If the word is not correct, you can swipe up and I 
>> believe down to hopefully find the word you want and it will be 
>> entered.  It is important to note that when you begin typing, 
>> VoiceOver must be unloaded, as speech is generated by Fleksy.  I also
downloaded the app and look forward to learning it.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:47 AM, Jessica Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> What is fleksy?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Richard Turner" >> To: >> Date sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:44:16 -0700
>>> Subject: FW: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> I just receive this notice.
>>> It is basically $15.00.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _
>>> 
>>> From: Fleksy Team [mailto:team=fleksy@createsend2.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Fleksy Team
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:31 PM
>>> To: Richard Turner
>>> Subject: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for registering in our mailing list to be the first to 
>>> hear about Fleksy's launch in the App Store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are pleased to announce Fleksy is now available to download
worldwide.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is the link:
>>> 
>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We see this launch as the first step in our plan to revolutionize 
>>> the typing experience on touch-screen devices. Stay tuned for many 
>>> updates coming up

RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

Thanks, will play later this weekend maybe, depends on what else is
happening here.  Husband may just get home from a seven-week stay in the
hospital in time for my birthday, if he gets here before Sunday.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

Rose,

The copy feature certainly works quite well and easily because it just
automatically copies to your clipboard so, from there, you can go and open
whatever app you want to use for that text.  You don't have to do anything
in terms of selecting text which can be a headache.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

> That would be a problem for me since generally when I want to be fast 
> is when texting one friend especially since she usually has a text 
> message to me before I can answer the first one especially if I am not 
> home where the Bluetooth keyboard is.  If I can't implement it from 
> text or something what good will this do me except as a toy to play 
> with.
>
> I bought it mostly to support a company who is doing work that should 
> benefit us all, and unless there is an easy way to text or e-mail, not 
> that I use my phone for that much, or to make notes of things, enter 
> calender events more quickly, for me it is just showing some support 
> for the vendor.
>
>
> Now if one can actually send the text quickly without having to switch 
> back and forth, copying, pasting etc, then I would gladly sing its 
> praises.
>
> Disappointed but not surprised that Apple won't let this work the way 
> it should.  It is the only thing I dislike about Vokul, once I get an 
> answer in the message Ap I have to return to it or, which is usually 
> the case, struggle with the phone keyboard and get three more 
> responses before I can manage to send a coherent one back.
>
> If I could get the Refreshabraille to actually work it might be easier 
> but it is one more think I would have to carry in a purse that now is 
> heavier than I would like.
>
> Fleksy is my birthday present to myself, more of a donation to keep 
> the vendor going than for my personal use I think despite all the 
> great things it does, no integration means it is likely I won't use 
> it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 3:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>
> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I 
> got bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some 
> reason I really wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  
> After 30 seconds of using it I have to say instantly I am very 
> impressed!  I am typing like I was when I first got the iPhone back in 
> 2008 (I had vision then).  This input method is quite accurate, 
> intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see this actually implemented 
> directly into the OS.
>
> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy 
> messages. I don't think I would use it for conversations via text 
> though, hence why I would like to see it added as a keyboard option to 
> enable this.
>
> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it 
> up and how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong 
> word, you can easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping 
> down.
> Punctuation is so much easier too.
>
> Chris
>
> ps I used the application to type this message!
> Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:28, Rob Harris wrote:
>
>> Ok ok, I've read enough;  this is a NoNo for me!
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Les Kriegler" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store
>>
>>
>> Hi Jessica,
>>
>> It's a program that allows you to type letters without being 
>> absolutely precise.  After you type what you think the letters of a 
>> word are, Fleksy uses what I like to call Word Prediction.  What this 
>> means is that when you complete the word you are typing, a swipe to 
>> the right inserts the word followed by a space character and it is 
>> verbalized by Fleksy.  If the word is correct, you continue typing 
>> the next word.  If the word is not correct, you can swipe up and I 
>> believe down to hopefully fi

RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

[Rose Combs]

Now that would be nice, I could actually sue both hands instead of hunt and
peck which with my years typing would be a relief.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

It can be in either portrait or landscape mode.  When in landscape mode, the
keyboard is a lot larger.

Rick



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Of RDLAW
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

the one thing the notes do not say is the position the phone should be when
using this app.
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Dean" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store


> Hi all,
>
> I am typing this with Fleksy, and I have to say I am pretty impressed!
>
> It does take a little time to get the hang of it, but I was typing 
> quickly in about 10 minutes. End I seem to get faster and faster.
>
> Two things to know, if you are using a blue tooth headset, you can 
> hold your hand over the screen to have your text read back to you, and 
> be careful not to go to high on the screen when swipeing or you May 
> engage the notification center.
>
> Have fun!
>
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Re: Thoughts on Flexy being integrated as a keyboard option on IOS

[Rose Morales]

There are a number of alternate keyboards for jail broken devices. My favorite 
is the five row keyboard. It adds a number row to the top of the normal ios 
letter keyboard. So adding an extra keyboard to the system rather than an app 
isn't the issue. The question would be whether the technology used in Fleksy 
can be integrated at the system level. So now we're not talking so much about 
an app per say but a jb tweak. Like to hope that such a thing is possible. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Louise Redsull  
wrote:

> Hi,
> I know this  won’t be for everyone but I was wondering whether it would be 
> possible for an app to be developed which would allow something like Flexy to 
> be a keyboard choice within IOS. I know apple has restrictions but I was 
> wondering about an app for those who have jailbroken their IPhones?
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  
> Louise.
>  
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Re: Thoughts on Flexy being integrated as a keyboard option on IOS

[Rose Morales]

Glad the speed dots screen protector works for you. Maybe it didn't work for me 
because I used the beginner protector. I don't know. Either way, it didn't work 
for me. I think I'll stick with a combination of Fleksy and dictation when I'm 
not using mybluetooth keyboard. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2012, at 6:17 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"  wrote:

> You bring up an excellent point. All this talk about alternate keyboards and 
> alternate methods of typing makes me glad that I have the speed Dot's screen 
> protector on my phone because I can type very fast with it. Yes, right now I 
> am dictating. However when I compare how fast I type compared to how fast 
> other cited people type, I think I am quite up there.
> 
> 
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> 
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Rose Morales  wrote:
> 
>> There are a number of alternate keyboards for jail broken devices. My 
>> favorite is the five row keyboard. It adds a number row to the top of the 
>> normal ios letter keyboard. So adding an extra keyboard to the system rather 
>> than an app isn't the issue. The question would be whether the technology 
>> used in Fleksy can be integrated at the system level. So now we're not 
>> talking so much about an app per say but a jb tweak. Like to hope that such 
>> a thing is possible. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Louise Redsull  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I know this  won’t be for everyone but I was wondering whether it would be 
>>> possible for an app to be developed which would allow something like Flexy 
>>> to be a keyboard choice within IOS. I know apple has restrictions but I was 
>>> wondering about an app for those who have jailbroken their IPhones?
>>>  
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>  
>>> Louise.
>>>  
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RE: Thoughts on Flexy being integrated as a keyboard option on IOS

[Rose Combs]

I had already bought my Otterbox by the time I heard about Speed Dots, We
struggled to get the phone with the screen protector it already had and I
don't want to try to do another especially since I hear there are some
fitting problem.  

 

Birthday is tomorrow, some could send me one already equipped!  Laughing
cause I know it would never happen, especially since I won't post my address
online.  

 

 

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Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Flexy being integrated as a keyboard option on IOS

 

You bring up an excellent point. All this talk about alternate keyboards and
alternate methods of typing makes me glad that I have the speed Dot's screen
protector on my phone because I can type very fast with it. Yes, right now I
am dictating. However when I compare how fast I type compared to how fast
other cited people type, I think I am quite up there.

 

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On Jul 13, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Rose Morales  wrote:

There are a number of alternate keyboards for jail broken devices. My
favorite is the five row keyboard. It adds a number row to the top of the
normal ios letter keyboard. So adding an extra keyboard to the system rather
than an app isn't the issue. The question would be whether the technology
used in Fleksy can be integrated at the system level. So now we're not
talking so much about an app per say but a jb tweak. Like to hope that such
a thing is possible. 


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Louise Redsull 
wrote:

Hi,

I know this  won't be for everyone but I was wondering whether it would be
possible for an app to be developed which would allow something like Flexy
to be a keyboard choice within IOS. I know apple has restrictions but I was
wondering about an app for those who have jailbroken their IPhones?

 

Any thoughts?

 

Louise.

 

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Re: Fast typing with Fleksy

[Rose Morales]

I type using my left index finger and my right thumb. I can't use two thumbs 
either. It's whatever works for you. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2012, at 8:37 AM, "Barbara Wilson"  wrote:

> Well I can’t type with my thumbs either, never could. Use index or middle 
> finger of right hand.
>  
> Barbara
>  
>  
> From: Rose Combs
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Fast typing with Fleksy
>  
> Maybe it is because I am old but I can't type with my thumbed, lose all sense 
> of orientation trying it , guess I am just an old lady tomorrow.   
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fast typing with Fleksy
>  
> Hi all,
> Just an FYI,
> I use my thumbs like those kids who are always texting, with Fleksy. I let 
> the iPhone rest on my fingers and type with  a thumb on each side of the key 
> board.
> I can type almost as fast as I can on my pc, although, I should say that I 
> suck at typing. I can even type while I am walking. 
> 
> This app really works well, and i am getting very fast at selecting the 
> proper words and puncuation. Manual input is still slow, but getting better.
> Chuck
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
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Re: Fleksy & Self-Marketing

[Rose Morales]

You have to copy And paste when replying to an email using fleksy if you want 
to keep a thread intact anyway. Just a thought. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 15, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Campbell  
wrote:

> Hi Chuck.
> Does fleksy even put that link in when you copy and paste the text in to an 
> email? If not, you could do business emails that way.
> I don't have fleksy as of yet so I'm just offering that as a maybe.
> 
> On 2012-07-15, at 1:43 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:
> 
>> As someone who uses his phone for business  this is not a ridiculous 
>> complaint. My emails are used to move large sums of money, and the emails 
>> must be extremely clear on instructions, so any erroneous text could 
>> potentially  be detrimental to a transaction.
>> 
>> I have to go back and strip the text out of any email that I send, so it 
>> totally negates any speed advantage Fleksy may provide. Therefore, I have 
>> paid my $15 for Fleksy, but I can not use it for business.
>> 
>> I wrote the developer on day one and said we should have the option to 
>> remove any Fleksy related tag lines. I suggest you all do the same.
>> Here is a link to their contact page:
>> 
>> http://fleksy.com/contact/
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:37:58 AM UTC-7, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>> All, 
>>> 
>>> Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text 
>>> message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings, 
>>> it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen 
>>> on list, appears to… 
>>> 
>>> I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, 
>>> if it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a 
>>> free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say 
>>> its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple, 
>>> revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for 
>>> free or lite apps, not charged full ones. 
>>> 
>>> I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if 
>>> I have added these to settings. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> 
>>> Neil Barnfather 
>>> 
>>> Talks List Administrator 
>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather 
>>> 
>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your 
>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com 
>>> 
>>> URL: - www.talknav.com 
>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com 
>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
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Re: Jailbreak keyboard mimics flecksy

[Rose Morales]

I don't have the app, but I have used Jailbreak keyboards before. Have you 
selected the octopus keyboard in the ios settings app? If not, go to settings, 
general, keyboard, keyboards, and click the button to the wright of edit. Under 
software keyboard layouts, you should see the octopus keyboard. Select it. Then 
go somewhere where you can type, like the notes app. Then start typing. Your 
new keyboard should be working now. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Blinkin  wrote:

> Did you purchase the license in the Settings app?
> On Jul 19, 2012, at 11:18 AM, PHILLIP TRACY wrote:
> 
>> I also have this app, but can't figure out how to make it work. Anyone who 
>> has this app please help? Thank you.
>> 
>> Phillip Tracy
>> Sent from my iPhone.
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:52 AM, "blind Treasures"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone who has jail broken there phone tried  this app yet? Would be
>>> interested in how it compares to fleksy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Jon Pierson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:31 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Jailbreak keyboard mimics flecksy
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> For jailbreakers, here's a tweak that seems to have taken a page out of the
>>> Fleksy playbook.
>>> But then the Fleksy idea's so good, how could they not?
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> Octopus Keyboard Jailbreak Tweak Now Available
>>> http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/07/octopus-keyboard-jailbreak-tweak-now-avai
>>> lable-to-download
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