Re: Bluetooth probs? Reset your watch

2020-07-21 Thread Philippe Chaperon
Hi Tim & WAMUG’ers, 

Many thanks for this information which is very useful. I had a somewhat similar 
problem though not related to my Apple products and your advice prompted me to 
do a reset to original factory settings … and all’s well now! So thank you for 
letting us know. 

Best regards, 

Philippe C.
 

On 21 Jul 2020, at 5:06 pm, Tim Law  wrote:

I’ve an Apple Watch Series Three and an iPhone 6s

I was having ongoing issues with Bluetooth connections To various devices and 
no amount of restarting the devices, turning Bluetooth on and off would Result 
in a lasting fix

Most annoying was the watch which would lose connection at a whim. It wasn’t 
just the watch, but was the most annoying. 

It contributed to me upgrading to an iPhone SE.  I was also tiring of replacing 
the battery every year too, so it wasn’t just the Bluetooth, but certainly 
contributed. 

New iPhone, same BluTooth  connection problems. Feeling glum. 

Now I’ve reset the Apple Watch ⌚️ To standard and rebuilt from a backup and 
everything is back to working reliably and connecting as it should. 

Somehow the watch Bluetooth must have been upsetting the iphone and it’s 
connections everywhere else. Or at least that’s what it seems

No question. Just a story that might be useful to someone. 

Regards
Tim


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Re: Bluetooth probs? Reset your watch

2020-07-21 Thread Tim Law
That’s great to hear Philippe. 

> On 21 Jul 2020, at 5:18 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim & WAMUG’ers, 
> 
> Many thanks for this information which is very useful. I had a somewhat 
> similar problem though not related to my Apple products and your advice 
> prompted me to do a reset to original factory settings … and all’s well now! 
> So thank you for letting us know. 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> Philippe C.
> 
> 
> On 21 Jul 2020, at 5:06 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> I’ve an Apple Watch Series Three and an iPhone 6s
> 
> I was having ongoing issues with Bluetooth connections To various devices and 
> no amount of restarting the devices, turning Bluetooth on and off would 
> Result in a lasting fix
> 
> Most annoying was the watch which would lose connection at a whim. It wasn’t 
> just the watch, but was the most annoying. 
> 
> It contributed to me upgrading to an iPhone SE.  I was also tiring of 
> replacing the battery every year too, so it wasn’t just the Bluetooth, but 
> certainly contributed. 
> 
> New iPhone, same BluTooth  connection problems. Feeling glum. 
> 
> Now I’ve reset the Apple Watch ⌚️ To standard and rebuilt from a backup and 
> everything is back to working reliably and connecting as it should. 
> 
> Somehow the watch Bluetooth must have been upsetting the iphone and it’s 
> connections everywhere else. Or at least that’s what it seems
> 
> No question. Just a story that might be useful to someone. 
> 
> Regards
> Tim
> 
> 
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Bluetooth probs? Reset your watch

2020-07-21 Thread Tim Law
I’ve an Apple Watch Series Three and an iPhone 6s

I was having ongoing issues with Bluetooth connections To various devices and 
no amount of restarting the devices, turning Bluetooth on and off would Result 
in a lasting fix

Most annoying was the watch which would lose connection at a whim. It wasn’t 
just the watch, but was the most annoying. 

It contributed to me upgrading to an iPhone SE.  I was also tiring of replacing 
the battery every year too, so it wasn’t just the Bluetooth, but certainly 
contributed. 

New iPhone, same BluTooth  connection problems. Feeling glum. 

Now I’ve reset the Apple Watch ⌚️ To standard and rebuilt from a backup and 
everything is back to working reliably and connecting as it should. 

Somehow the watch Bluetooth must have been upsetting the iphone and it’s 
connections everywhere else. Or at least that’s what it seems

No question. Just a story that might be useful to someone. 

Regards
Tim


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Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth? OT

2017-12-06 Thread Brian RISBEY
I can recommend Aberdeen Auto Actions too  ( my Commodore is 14 now!) can buy 
outright dodging the auction action 

Brian Risbey 
OS11.1.2‍


On 6 Dec 2017, at 16:16, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

cool
:)



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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
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> On 4 Dec 2017, at 6:14 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Rod you could consider using a Mac Mini for your mapping and buy a single DIN 
> Pioneer DEH-X3950BT radio. And remove your standard 100 series double DIN 
> unit. The Mac mini can mount above the stereo and can be a dash cam for 
> recording exciting manoeuvres. 
> 
> Alternatively I have a double DIN unit that does mapping, inc OziExplorer, 
> and Memory-Map plus a reversing camera. And talks to my iPhone 6s via 
> Bluetooth in my 30 year old Landcruiser. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2017, at 5:54 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Brian, Tim & Ronni
>> Unfortunately I don’t have car-play or any input into the stereo (10 yr old 
>> Landcruiser)
>> Something like Brian’s suggestion is what I need.
>> cheers
>> Blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2017, at 4:09 pm, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rod,
>>> I have a Belkin Tunecast auto and a DockBoss Bluetooth by CableJive. 
>>> This allows me to Bluetooth music to my choice of FM station. In the car. 
>>> Hope this helps. It does lose some volume so you need to tune your radio up 
>>> a bit more to compensate. 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 17:28, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rod, 
>>> 
>>> Does the car have a way of connecting anything via Bluetooth? My 2009 Getz 
>>> does and it generally picks up the phone well and works well  for phone 
>>> calls and playing. A charge cable keeps the battery going. 
>>> 
>>> I found cars pre this era may have a RCA connector hidden away maybe in the 
>>> glovebox, but that’ll need a plug to go into your non existent on iPhone X 
>>> ear plug hole. 
>>> 
>>> Anything much before 2006 didn’t know about anything connecting to the 
>>> radio unless it was via a cassette tape input. 
>>> 
>>> You might be able to find a device that’s reads the phone via Bluetooth 
>>> then you play it via an FM RADIO frequency. That’s pretty clunky. What you 
>>> really need is a new car :-) 
>>> 
>>> Aberdeen Autos are a good place for one Rod. It’s fun bidding on Wednesday 
>>> nights for your new pride and joy. 
>>> 
>>> There’s a really nice Pioneer radio that reads two Bluetooth devices and 
>>> has nice quality sound output and voice input for phone chatting if 
>>> changing cars is a bit dramatic. About $130. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 5:06 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I 
>>>> sent below.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> unfortunately no Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Blitto,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>>>>>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car 
>>>>>> stereo
>>>>>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>>>>>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your 
>>>>>&

Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-06 Thread Rod Blitvich
cool
:)



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  



> On 4 Dec 2017, at 6:14 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Rod you could consider using a Mac Mini for your mapping and buy a single DIN 
> Pioneer DEH-X3950BT radio. And remove your standard 100 series double DIN 
> unit. The Mac mini can mount above the stereo and can be a dash cam for 
> recording exciting manoeuvres. 
> 
> Alternatively I have a double DIN unit that does mapping, inc OziExplorer, 
> and Memory-Map plus a reversing camera. And talks to my iPhone 6s via 
> Bluetooth in my 30 year old Landcruiser. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
> On 4 Dec 2017, at 5:54 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Brian, Tim & Ronni
>> Unfortunately I don’t have car-play or any input into the stereo (10 yr old 
>> Landcruiser)
>> Something like Brian’s suggestion is what I need.
>> cheers
>> Blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Dec 2017, at 4:09 pm, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com 
>>> <mailto:risb...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rod,
>>> I have a Belkin Tunecast auto and a DockBoss Bluetooth by CableJive. 
>>> This allows me to Bluetooth music to my choice of FM station. In the car. 
>>> Hope this helps. It does lose some volume so you need to tune your radio up 
>>> a bit more to compensate. 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 17:28, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au 
>>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rod, 
>>> 
>>> Does the car have a way of connecting anything via Bluetooth? My 2009 Getz 
>>> does and it generally picks up the phone well and works well  for phone 
>>> calls and playing. A charge cable keeps the battery going. 
>>> 
>>> I found cars pre this era may have a RCA connector hidden away maybe in the 
>>> glovebox, but that’ll need a plug to go into your non existent on iPhone X 
>>> ear plug hole. 
>>> 
>>> Anything much before 2006 didn’t know about anything connecting to the 
>>> radio unless it was via a cassette tape input. 
>>> 
>>> You might be able to find a device that’s reads the phone via Bluetooth 
>>> then you play it via an FM RADIO frequency. That’s pretty clunky. What you 
>>> really need is a new car :-) 
>>> 
>>> Aberdeen Autos are a good place for one Rod. It’s fun bidding on Wednesday 
>>> nights for your new pride and joy. 
>>> 
>>> There’s a really nice Pioneer radio that reads two Bluetooth devices and 
>>> has nice quality sound output and voice input for phone chatting if 
>>> changing cars is a bit dramatic. About $130. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 5:06 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I 
>>>> sent below.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> unfortunately no Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Blitto,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>>>>>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car 
>>>>>> stereo
>>>>>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>>>>>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or 

Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-04 Thread Tim Law
Rod you could consider using a Mac Mini for your mapping and buy a single DIN 
Pioneer DEH-X3950BT radio. And remove your standard 100 series double DIN unit. 
The Mac mini can mount above the stereo and can be a dash cam for recording 
exciting manoeuvres. 

Alternatively I have a double DIN unit that does mapping, inc OziExplorer, and 
Memory-Map plus a reversing camera. And talks to my iPhone 6s via Bluetooth in 
my 30 year old Landcruiser. 



Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 4 Dec 2017, at 5:54 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Brian, Tim & Ronni
> Unfortunately I don’t have car-play or any input into the stereo (10 yr old 
> Landcruiser)
> Something like Brian’s suggestion is what I need.
> cheers
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2017, at 4:09 pm, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rod,
>> I have a Belkin Tunecast auto and a DockBoss Bluetooth by CableJive. 
>> This allows me to Bluetooth music to my choice of FM station. In the car. 
>> Hope this helps. It does lose some volume so you need to tune your radio up 
>> a bit more to compensate. 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 17:28, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Rod, 
>> 
>> Does the car have a way of connecting anything via Bluetooth? My 2009 Getz 
>> does and it generally picks up the phone well and works well  for phone 
>> calls and playing. A charge cable keeps the battery going. 
>> 
>> I found cars pre this era may have a RCA connector hidden away maybe in the 
>> glovebox, but that’ll need a plug to go into your non existent on iPhone X 
>> ear plug hole. 
>> 
>> Anything much before 2006 didn’t know about anything connecting to the radio 
>> unless it was via a cassette tape input. 
>> 
>> You might be able to find a device that’s reads the phone via Bluetooth then 
>> you play it via an FM RADIO frequency. That’s pretty clunky. What you really 
>> need is a new car :-) 
>> 
>> Aberdeen Autos are a good place for one Rod. It’s fun bidding on Wednesday 
>> nights for your new pride and joy. 
>> 
>> There’s a really nice Pioneer radio that reads two Bluetooth devices and has 
>> nice quality sound output and voice input for phone chatting if changing 
>> cars is a bit dramatic. About $130. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 5:06 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I 
>>> sent below.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> unfortunately no Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Blitto,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>>>>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
>>>>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>>>>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS 
>>>>> device with your car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what 
>>>>> to do.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car 
>>>>>> stereo???
>>>>>> Charging as well would be great
>>>>>> ta
>>>>>> Blitto
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rod Bli

Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-04 Thread Rod Blitvich
Thank you Brian, Tim & Ronni
Unfortunately I don’t have car-play or any input into the stereo (10 yr old 
Landcruiser)
Something like Brian’s suggestion is what I need.
cheers
Blitto



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  



> On 4 Dec 2017, at 4:09 pm, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rod,
> I have a Belkin Tunecast auto and a DockBoss Bluetooth by CableJive. 
> This allows me to Bluetooth music to my choice of FM station. In the car. 
> Hope this helps. It does lose some volume so you need to tune your radio up a 
> bit more to compensate. 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Dec 2017, at 17:28, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au 
> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Rod, 
> 
> Does the car have a way of connecting anything via Bluetooth? My 2009 Getz 
> does and it generally picks up the phone well and works well  for phone calls 
> and playing. A charge cable keeps the battery going. 
> 
> I found cars pre this era may have a RCA connector hidden away maybe in the 
> glovebox, but that’ll need a plug to go into your non existent on iPhone X 
> ear plug hole. 
> 
> Anything much before 2006 didn’t know about anything connecting to the radio 
> unless it was via a cassette tape input. 
> 
> You might be able to find a device that’s reads the phone via Bluetooth then 
> you play it via an FM RADIO frequency. That’s pretty clunky. What you really 
> need is a new car :-) 
> 
> Aberdeen Autos are a good place for one Rod. It’s fun bidding on Wednesday 
> nights for your new pride and joy. 
> 
> There’s a really nice Pioneer radio that reads two Bluetooth devices and has 
> nice quality sound output and voice input for phone chatting if changing cars 
> is a bit dramatic. About $130. 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
> On 2 Dec 2017, at 5:06 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I 
>> sent below.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>> 
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>>> unfortunately no Ronni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Blitto,
>>>> 
>>>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>>>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
>>>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>>>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS 
>>>> device with your car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what 
>>>> to do.”
>>>> 
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412>
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>>> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car 
>>>>> stereo???
>>>>> Charging as well would be great
>>>>> ta
>>>>> Blitto
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
>>>>> 
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Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-04 Thread Brian RISBEY
Hi Rod,
I have a Belkin Tunecast auto and a DockBoss Bluetooth by CableJive. 
This allows me to Bluetooth music to my choice of FM station. In the car. 
Hope this helps. It does lose some volume so you need to tune your radio up a 
bit more to compensate. 
Brian



On 2 Dec 2017, at 17:28, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:

Rod, 

Does the car have a way of connecting anything via Bluetooth? My 2009 Getz does 
and it generally picks up the phone well and works well  for phone calls and 
playing. A charge cable keeps the battery going. 

I found cars pre this era may have a RCA connector hidden away maybe in the 
glovebox, but that’ll need a plug to go into your non existent on iPhone X ear 
plug hole. 

Anything much before 2006 didn’t know about anything connecting to the radio 
unless it was via a cassette tape input. 

You might be able to find a device that’s reads the phone via Bluetooth then 
you play it via an FM RADIO frequency. That’s pretty clunky. What you really 
need is a new car :-) 

Aberdeen Autos are a good place for one Rod. It’s fun bidding on Wednesday 
nights for your new pride and joy. 

There’s a really nice Pioneer radio that reads two Bluetooth devices and has 
nice quality sound output and voice input for phone chatting if changing cars 
is a bit dramatic. About $130. 

Cheers

Tim

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 2 Dec 2017, at 5:06 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I 
> sent below.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
> 
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> unfortunately no Ronni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Blitto,
>>> 
>>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
>>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS 
>>> device with your car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what 
>>> to do.”
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car 
>>>> stereo???
>>>> Charging as well would be great
>>>> ta
>>>> Blitto
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-02 Thread Tim Law
Rod, 

Does the car have a way of connecting anything via Bluetooth? My 2009 Getz does 
and it generally picks up the phone well and works well  for phone calls and 
playing. A charge cable keeps the battery going. 

I found cars pre this era may have a RCA connector hidden away maybe in the 
glovebox, but that’ll need a plug to go into your non existent on iPhone X ear 
plug hole. 

Anything much before 2006 didn’t know about anything connecting to the radio 
unless it was via a cassette tape input. 

You might be able to find a device that’s reads the phone via Bluetooth then 
you play it via an FM RADIO frequency. That’s pretty clunky. What you really 
need is a new car :-) 

Aberdeen Autos are a good place for one Rod. It’s fun bidding on Wednesday 
nights for your new pride and joy. 

There’s a really nice Pioneer radio that reads two Bluetooth devices and has 
nice quality sound output and voice input for phone chatting if changing cars 
is a bit dramatic. About $130. 

Cheers

Tim

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 2 Dec 2017, at 5:06 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I 
> sent below.
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
> 
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> unfortunately no Ronni
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Blitto,
>>> 
>>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
>>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS 
>>> device with your car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what 
>>> to do.”
>>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car 
>>>> stereo???
>>>> Charging as well would be great
>>>> ta
>>>> Blitto
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-02 Thread Ronda Brown
There are other ways to connect your iPhone. Read the Apple support link I sent 
below.

Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus

> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:52 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> unfortunately no Ronni
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Blitto,
>> 
>> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
>> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
>> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using 
>> Bluetooth, a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS 
>> device with your car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what to 
>> do.”
>> 
>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car 
>>> stereo???
>>> Charging as well would be great
>>> ta
>>> Blitto
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>  0409 681 256  
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Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-02 Thread Rod Blitvich
unfortunately no Ronni



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
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> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:45 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Blitto,
> 
> Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
> “Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
> You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using Bluetooth, 
> a USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS device with 
> your car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what to do.”
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:rb...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car 
>> stereo???
>> Charging as well would be great
>> ta
>> Blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
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Re: iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-02 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Blitto,

Does your car have ‘CarPlay’?
“Get help connecting your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with your car stereo
You can connect your iOS device with a compatible car stereo using Bluetooth, a 
USB cable, or CarPlay. If you can't pair or connect your iOS device with your 
car stereo, or you don't hear audio playback, learn what to do.”

https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT203412

Cheers,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 2 Dec 2017, at 4:21 pm, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car stereo???
> Charging as well would be great
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
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iPhone Car FM/Bluetooth?

2017-12-02 Thread Rod Blitvich
Hi
Please - any recommendations for playing my iPhone X through the car stereo???
Charging as well would be great
ta
Blitto



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Re: Apple TV and Bluetooth Speakers

2017-10-17 Thread Diana & Graham Stevens
Hi Severin and others

I solved my problem with Sennheiser headphones (c. $400) plus an RCA to 3.5 mm 
female jack ($5.50). This allows me to have speaker sound when I connect to the 
old NEC TV. I discovered that my newer Panasonic TV does not mute the sound 
when I connect to the headphone jack.

I have also learned that not all TVs have RCA audio out, some do not mute the 
sound and some have an option to change muting in the settings. This solution 
should work with any other spare audio out channel and a suitable adapter. I 
was also told that some TVs can't support multiple audio out (this seems 
illogical and it was a salesman who probably hoped to sell me a new TV). It 
would also work with cheaper headphones but this model allows two sets of 
headphones attached to the same transmitter in case Graham needs them in the 
future. Spare headphones (c. $200).

I know that this is off-topic but I also know of another list member who has 
the same problem, there may be others. It seems reasonable to supply a 
solution. I was helped to this satisfactory solution by a very kind non-member 
who reads the list.

Diana 
On 13 Oct 2017, at 4:32 pm, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
<mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:

> We have a similar problem; we are both suffering from a degree of hearing 
> loss, they tell us it is something to do with advancing years!  
> Accordingly purchase a Bose Solo system, not cheap, but it made a remarkable 
> difference.  We now both get the dialog from mumbling Americans on TV shows 
> and films and even Geordies are more or less intelligible!   
> It was a real boon for us, though our sons when they visit complain of the 
> the high sound level!  
> Though this is not a direct solution to your stated split system need it 
> worked for us!  
> Best wishes
> Severin
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2017, at 12:54 pm, Diana & Graham Stevens <diag...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:diag...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> I am getting deaf so I often can't hear the TV, I would like Bluetooth 
>> earphones but then my husband can't hear. I wondered if it is possible to 
>> pair the Apple TV with one of the new Bose mini speakers. High quality sound 
>> which we could have nearby.
>> 
>> If this worked maybe we could get a Bluetooth transmitter to plug into the 
>> sound jack on the TV which does not have Bluetooth. 
>> 
>> The Bose specifications say you can pair two speakers for stereo 'party' 
>> mode. Presumably this is achieved by using their App on a separate device 
>> and streaming to the TV so it would not work directly with the Apple TV?
>> 
>> If anyone has experience with this or a solution to using headphones and 
>> still having sound for the rest of the family please let me know. Maybe 
>> off-list if this is too off-topic.

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Re: Apple TV and Bluetooth Speakers

2017-10-13 Thread Diana & Graham Stevens
I remember when you had all the trouble with the optical cable. I am going to 
investigate connecting wireless headphones to the optical-digital audio out 
which should not cancel the audio via the speakers. I have Panasonic also so I 
shall visit JB HiFi and take advice. Thanks again for your help.

Best wishes from Diana 
Sent from my iPad

> On 13 Oct 2017, at 5:43 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> My system is effective if rather complex with two tv recorders and the hifi 
> music as well.  They are all in a convenient cupboard while the TV is quite 
> separate on a table fairly close to us.  The cabling is interesting and of 
> course I have six handpieces, all of which are used!.   The sound from the 
> recorders (and Apple TV) go through a magic box which is needed - the sound 
> from our Panasonic recorders will not play via the Bose optical fibre 
> channel, a Panasonic quirk fixed by the magic box.   The AV sound is fine 
> though probably of lower quality and I was seeking the best.   The no go of 
> the optical fibre channel was hard nut to crack - flashing light was coming 
> out the end of the pipe but the Bose would not accept it though perfectly 
> happy on AV sound pair.  
> In a couple of weeks I have the joys of the NBN, though my current link is 
> fine and Netflix is faultless.   

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Re: Apple TV and Bluetooth Speakers

2017-10-13 Thread Severin Crisp
My system is effective if rather complex with two tv recorders and the hifi 
music as well.  They are all in a convenient cupboard while the TV is quite 
separate on a table fairly close to us.  The cabling is interesting and of 
course I have six handpieces, all of which are used!.   The sound from the 
recorders (and Apple TV) go through a magic box which is needed - the sound 
from our Panasonic recorders will not play via the Bose optical fibre channel, 
a Panasonic quirk fixed by the magic box.   The AV sound is fine though 
probably of lower quality and I was seeking the best.   The no go of the 
optical fibre channel was hard nut to crack - flashing light was coming out the 
end of the pipe but the Bose would not accept it though perfectly happy on AV 
sound pair.  
In a couple of weeks I have the joys of the NBN, though my current link is fine 
and Netflix is faultless.   
Best wishes
Severin


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> On 13 Oct 2017, at 17:24, Diana & Graham Stevens <diag...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this info Severin. 
> 
> It sounds what we need, we are both a bit deaf. I shall investigate further 
> though explaining our 'just grew like Topsy / Heath Robinson' entertainment 
> system may be a challenge!
> 
> Best wishes from Diana 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 13 Oct 2017, at 4:32 pm, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
> <mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> We have a similar problem; we are both suffering from a degree of hearing 
>> loss, they tell us it is something to do with advancing years!  
>> Accordingly purchase a Bose Solo system, not cheap, but it made a remarkable 
>> difference.  We now both get the dialog from mumbling Americans on TV shows 
>> and films and even Geordies are more or less intelligible!   
>> It was a real boon for us, though our sons when they visit complain of the 
>> the high sound level!  
>> Though this is not a direct solution to your stated split system need it 
>> worked for us!  
>> Best wishes
>> Severin
>> 
>>> On 13 Oct 2017, at 12:54 pm, Diana & Graham Stevens <diag...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:diag...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> 
>>> I am getting deaf so I often can't hear the TV, I would like Bluetooth 
>>> earphones but then my husband can't hear. I wondered if it is possible to 
>>> pair the Apple TV with one of the new Bose mini speakers. High quality 
>>> sound which we could have nearby.
>>> 
>>> If this worked maybe we could get a Bluetooth transmitter to plug into the 
>>> sound jack on the TV which does not have Bluetooth. 
>>> 
>>> The Bose specifications say you can pair two speakers for stereo 'party' 
>>> mode. Presumably this is achieved by using their App on a separate device 
>>> and streaming to the TV so it would not work directly with the Apple TV?
>>> 
>>> If anyone has experience with this or a solution to using headphones and 
>>> still having sound for the rest of the family please let me know. Maybe 
>>> off-list if this is too off-topic.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes from Diana 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>> 
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Re: Apple TV and Bluetooth Speakers

2017-10-13 Thread Diana & Graham Stevens
Thanks for this info Severin. 

It sounds what we need, we are both a bit deaf. I shall investigate further 
though explaining our 'just grew like Topsy / Heath Robinson' entertainment 
system may be a challenge!

Best wishes from Diana 
Sent from my iPad

> On 13 Oct 2017, at 4:32 pm, Severin Crisp <sevcr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> We have a similar problem; we are both suffering from a degree of hearing 
> loss, they tell us it is something to do with advancing years!  
> Accordingly purchase a Bose Solo system, not cheap, but it made a remarkable 
> difference.  We now both get the dialog from mumbling Americans on TV shows 
> and films and even Geordies are more or less intelligible!   
> It was a real boon for us, though our sons when they visit complain of the 
> the high sound level!  
> Though this is not a direct solution to your stated split system need it 
> worked for us!  
> Best wishes
> Severin
> 
>> On 13 Oct 2017, at 12:54 pm, Diana & Graham Stevens <diag...@iinet.net.au> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> I am getting deaf so I often can't hear the TV, I would like Bluetooth 
>> earphones but then my husband can't hear. I wondered if it is possible to 
>> pair the Apple TV with one of the new Bose mini speakers. High quality sound 
>> which we could have nearby.
>> 
>> If this worked maybe we could get a Bluetooth transmitter to plug into the 
>> sound jack on the TV which does not have Bluetooth. 
>> 
>> The Bose specifications say you can pair two speakers for stereo 'party' 
>> mode. Presumably this is achieved by using their App on a separate device 
>> and streaming to the TV so it would not work directly with the Apple TV?
>> 
>> If anyone has experience with this or a solution to using headphones and 
>> still having sound for the rest of the family please let me know. Maybe 
>> off-list if this is too off-topic.
>> 
>> Best wishes from Diana 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Apple TV and Bluetooth Speakers

2017-10-13 Thread Severin Crisp
We have a similar problem; we are both suffering from a degree of hearing loss, 
they tell us it is something to do with advancing years!  
Accordingly purchase a Bose Solo system, not cheap, but it made a remarkable 
difference.  We now both get the dialog from mumbling Americans on TV shows and 
films and even Geordies are more or less intelligible!   
It was a real boon for us, though our sons when they visit complain of the the 
high sound level!  
Though this is not a direct solution to your stated split system need it worked 
for us!  
Best wishes
Severin

> On 13 Oct 2017, at 12:54 pm, Diana & Graham Stevens <diag...@iinet.net.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> I am getting deaf so I often can't hear the TV, I would like Bluetooth 
> earphones but then my husband can't hear. I wondered if it is possible to 
> pair the Apple TV with one of the new Bose mini speakers. High quality sound 
> which we could have nearby.
> 
> If this worked maybe we could get a Bluetooth transmitter to plug into the 
> sound jack on the TV which does not have Bluetooth. 
> 
> The Bose specifications say you can pair two speakers for stereo 'party' 
> mode. Presumably this is achieved by using their App on a separate device and 
> streaming to the TV so it would not work directly with the Apple TV?
> 
> If anyone has experience with this or a solution to using headphones and 
> still having sound for the rest of the family please let me know. Maybe 
> off-list if this is too off-topic.
> 
> Best wishes from Diana 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Apple TV and Bluetooth Speakers

2017-10-12 Thread Diana & Graham Stevens
Hi everyone

I am getting deaf so I often can't hear the TV, I would like Bluetooth 
earphones but then my husband can't hear. I wondered if it is possible to pair 
the Apple TV with one of the new Bose mini speakers. High quality sound which 
we could have nearby.

If this worked maybe we could get a Bluetooth transmitter to plug into the 
sound jack on the TV which does not have Bluetooth. 

The Bose specifications say you can pair two speakers for stereo 'party' mode. 
Presumably this is achieved by using their App on a separate device and 
streaming to the TV so it would not work directly with the Apple TV?

If anyone has experience with this or a solution to using headphones and still 
having sound for the rest of the family please let me know. Maybe off-list if 
this is too off-topic.

Best wishes from Diana 

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Re: Looking for second hand Apple Bluetooth Touch Pad

2016-03-09 Thread Stephen Chape
Thanks Daniel … I am not in a hurry !
Also thanks to Neil for your input.
Always helps to hear others experiences.


> On 9 Mar 2016, at 2:32 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> No, I’m hanging on to mine  ;o)
> 
> Just thought that I’d mention that I like to have both at hand – I tend to 
> have the trackpad to the left of the keyboard and operate with my left hand 
> and the mouse to the right, operated by my right hand.
> 
> 
> I probably use the mouse most of the time but like the trackpad when browsing 
> the web – using the gestures for top/bottom of page and previous/next page. I 
> am normally left-handed so not sure if that makes a difference ;o)
> 
> The point being that you can happily work with both and then, if it helps, 
> gradually transition as she gets more comfortable with the trackpad (or 
> continue to use both). Another advantage of both is that one keeps working if 
> the batteries die on the other - & makes for an easier battery replacement.
> 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 9/3/16 13:54, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> If anybody has one of the above (battery operated is OK).
>> I might be interested in buying for a reasonable price.
>> My wife is having wrist pain issues using the mouse, so just want to see if 
>> this will help.
>> Don’t want to pay for a new one until I see if this works for her.
>> 
>> So if you have one you don’t use and are happy to sell please let me know.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
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Re: Looking for second hand Apple Bluetooth Touch Pad

2016-03-08 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Stephen,

No, I¹m hanging on to mine  ;o)

Just thought that I¹d mention that I like to have both at hand ­ I tend to
have the trackpad to the left of the keyboard and operate with my left hand
and the mouse to the right, operated by my right hand.


I probably use the mouse most of the time but like the trackpad when
browsing the web ­ using the gestures for top/bottom of page and
previous/next page. I am normally left-handed so not sure if that makes a
difference ;o)

The point being that you can happily work with both and then, if it helps,
gradually transition as she gets more comfortable with the trackpad (or
continue to use both). Another advantage of both is that one keeps working
if the batteries die on the other - & makes for an easier battery
replacement.



HTH



Cheers


Neil
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Email: n...@possumology.com





on 9/3/16 13:54, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

> Hi folks,
> If anybody has one of the above (battery operated is OK).
> I might be interested in buying for a reasonable price.
> My wife is having wrist pain issues using the mouse, so just want to see if
> this will help.
> Don¹t want to pay for a new one until I see if this works for her.
> 
> So if you have one you don¹t use and are happy to sell please let me know.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape

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Looking for second hand Apple Bluetooth Touch Pad

2016-03-08 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi folks,
If anybody has one of the above (battery operated is OK).
I might be interested in buying for a reasonable price.
My wife is having wrist pain issues using the mouse, so just want to see if 
this will help.
Don’t want to pay for a new one until I see if this works for her.

So if you have one you don’t use and are happy to sell please let me know.

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Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Battery Level Permanently 100 percent

2016-02-12 Thread Alan Smith
A few days ago the Bluetooth devices battery level indicators (for Apple mouse 
and keyboard) suddenly changed to show 100 percent.   Late 2009 iMac; OS X 
10.9.5 Mavericks.

I changed the Magic Mouse batteries for some old ones.  Still 100 percent.  Did 
Restart then SMC reset.  No Change.

Precursor to the problem - neither keyboard nor mouse would wake the iMac from 
sleep - I had to use the Power button.Bluetooth “wake” function has worked 
since.

By the way, I checked “About This Mac” to get the OS X version, but I was sure 
I had installed an update (10.9.6) fairly recently.

Regards, 
Alan

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Re: Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Battery Level Permanently 100 percent

2016-02-12 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

No change in indicated battery levels after re-pairing.
The recent Mavericks "upgrade" installed was just an OS X security update!

Cheers
Alan

Sent from my iPad

> On 12 Feb 2016, at 5:08 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
>> On 12 Feb 2016, at 4:14 PM, Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> A few days ago the Bluetooth devices battery level indicators (for Apple 
>> mouse and keyboard) suddenly changed to show 100 percent.   Late 2009 iMac; 
>> OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks.
>> 
>> I changed the Magic Mouse batteries for some old ones.  Still 100 percent.  
>> Did Restart then SMC reset.  No Change.
> 
> Have you tried re-pairing your devices?
>> 
>> Precursor to the problem - neither keyboard nor mouse would wake the iMac 
>> from sleep - I had to use the Power button.Bluetooth “wake” function has 
>> worked since.
>> 
>> By the way, I checked “About This Mac” to get the OS X version, but I was 
>> sure I had installed an update (10.9.6) fairly recently.
> 
> There is no 10.9.6 update! Development of Mavericks OS X 10.9 was finalized 
> on 10.9.5, the next release was Yosemite 10.10.5 and the most current version 
> of OS X is 10.11.3 El Capitan.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Alan Smith
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Re: Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Battery Level Permanently 100 percent

2016-02-12 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

> On 12 Feb 2016, at 4:14 PM, Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> A few days ago the Bluetooth devices battery level indicators (for Apple 
> mouse and keyboard) suddenly changed to show 100 percent.   Late 2009 iMac; 
> OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks.
> 
> I changed the Magic Mouse batteries for some old ones.  Still 100 percent.  
> Did Restart then SMC reset.  No Change.

Have you tried re-pairing your devices?
> 
> Precursor to the problem - neither keyboard nor mouse would wake the iMac 
> from sleep - I had to use the Power button.Bluetooth “wake” function has 
> worked since.
> 
> By the way, I checked “About This Mac” to get the OS X version, but I was 
> sure I had installed an update (10.9.6) fairly recently.

There is no 10.9.6 update! Development of Mavericks OS X 10.9 was finalized on 
10.9.5, the next release was Yosemite 10.10.5 and the most current version of 
OS X is 10.11.3 El Capitan.

Cheers,
Ronni
> 
> Regards, 
> Alan
> 
> Alan Smith
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Fwd: Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Battery Level Permanently 100 percent

2016-02-12 Thread Alan Smith
An update to the problem - - 

I installed the Dashboard widget "Mighty Monitor" which shows the same battery 
levels as the Terminal ioreg command.  Hasn't fixed the real problem, but it 
does help in monitoring battery life.

Next step - get the widget on to the desktop!

Cheers
Alan 


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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au>
> Date: 12 February 2016 at 7:08:21 PM AWST
> To: wamug@wamug.org.au
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Battery Level Permanently 100 
> percent
> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> No change in indicated battery levels after re-pairing.
> The recent Mavericks "upgrade" installed was just an OS X security update!
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 12 Feb 2016, at 5:08 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2016, at 4:14 PM, Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A few days ago the Bluetooth devices battery level indicators (for Apple 
>>> mouse and keyboard) suddenly changed to show 100 percent.   Late 2009 iMac; 
>>> OS X 10.9.5 Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> I changed the Magic Mouse batteries for some old ones.  Still 100 percent.  
>>> Did Restart then SMC reset.  No Change.
>> 
>> Have you tried re-pairing your devices?
>>> 
>>> Precursor to the problem - neither keyboard nor mouse would wake the iMac 
>>> from sleep - I had to use the Power button.Bluetooth “wake” function 
>>> has worked since.
>>> 
>>> By the way, I checked “About This Mac” to get the OS X version, but I was 
>>> sure I had installed an update (10.9.6) fairly recently.
>> 
>> There is no 10.9.6 update! Development of Mavericks OS X 10.9 was finalized 
>> on 10.9.5, the next release was Yosemite 10.10.5 and the most current 
>> version of OS X is 10.11.3 El Capitan.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Alan Smith
>>> Late 2009 iMac 21.5" Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.9.5 Mavericks
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New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

2015-11-21 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi folks,

I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my new 6s with 
the Car Media.
Previously when I started my car the iPhone 5 automatically connected.

However ??? this does not happen with my 6s.
Each time I start the car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car 
Media and wait for connection.
Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as it was with my old 
iPhone 5 ?

Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings !

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Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

2015-11-21 Thread Stephen Chape
It’s a Subaru XV 2012.
I am sure the issue is with the phone.
The Car Manual is quite straight forward. 

The car gave a code to input in the phone for pairing.
I did that and the car confirmed pairing complete.

It is paired with the car, but does not connect automatically.
So every time I start car I must tell the iPhone to connect.


> On 22 Nov 2015, at 12:46 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> What car is it Stephen, Model and Year and what Media options do you have in 
> the car? I presume you've read the car manual about "auto Bluetooth phone 
> connection" or similar? Typically provided the pairing is done on your phone, 
> it would auto connect on future occasions, even if you hadn't deleted the old 
> phone's identity in the car's phone library.
> 
>  
> Regards
> 
>  
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my new 6s 
> with the Car Media.
> Previously when I started my car the iPhone 5 automatically connected.
> 
> However ??? this does not happen with my 6s.
> Each time I start the car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car 
> Media and wait for connection.
> Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as it was with my old 
> iPhone 5 ?
> 
> Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings !
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
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Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

2015-11-21 Thread Stephen Chape
Thanks Peter,

I just read those instructions on a website a few minutes ago.
It’s almost like you repeated them !!

I haver printed them out and will try when it cools down in my garage.


> On 22 Nov 2015, at 2:26 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Ok, that is frustrating to be sure. I would try as per the link here as a tip.
> 
> I would also try the following if it were me. Select the Bluetooth pairing 
> for the car on the phone as it is and "Forget this device" and remove the 
> previous pairing of the 6S phone within the car. Do an iPhone shutdown and 
> reboot, Start the whole process over again and reset the pairing from phone 
> to car. See how that all goes.
> 
>  
> http://www.subaruxvforum.com/forum/interior-audio/11954-iphone-5s-wont-automatically-connect-bluetooth.html
>  
> <http://www.subaruxvforum.com/forum/interior-audio/11954-iphone-5s-wont-automatically-connect-bluetooth.html>
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> Pete.
> 
> 
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> Subject:
> Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?
> 
> 
> It’s a Subaru XV 2012.
> I am sure the issue is with the phone.
> The Car Manual is quite straight forward. 
> 
> The car gave a code to input in the phone for pairing.
> I did that and the car confirmed pairing complete.
> 
> It is paired with the car, but does not connect automatically.
> So every time I start car I must tell the iPhone to connect.
> 
> 
> On 22 Nov 2015, at 12:46 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> What car is it Stephen, Model and Year and what Media options do you have in 
> the car? I presume you've read the car manual about "auto Bluetooth phone 
> connection" or similar? Typically provided the pairing is done on your phone, 
> it would auto connect on future occasions, even if you hadn't deleted the old 
> phone's identity in the car's phone library.
> 
>  
> Regards
> 
>  
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my new 6s 
> with the Car Media.
> Previously when I started my car the iPhone 5 automatically connected.
> 
> However ??? this does not happen with my 6s.
> Each time I start the car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car 
> Media and wait for connection.
> Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as it was with my old 
> iPhone 5 ?
> 
> Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings !
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

2015-11-21 Thread petercrisp


Ok, that is frustrating to be sure. I would try as per the link here
as a tip. 

I would also try the following if it were me. Select the Bluetooth
pairing for the car on the phone as it is and "Forget this device"
and remove the previous pairing of the 6S phone within the car. Do
an iPhone shutdown and reboot, Start the whole process over again and
reset the pairing from phone to car. See how that all goes.

 


http://www.subaruxvforum.com/forum/interior-audio/11954-iphone-5s-wont-automatically-connect-bluetooth.html
[1] 

Regards

 

Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:10:25 +0800
Subject:Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

It’s a Subaru XV 2012. I am sure the issue is with the phone. The
Car Manual is quite straight forward.  
 The car gave a code to input in the phone for pairing. I did that and
the car confirmed pairing complete. 
 It is paired with the car, but does not connect automatically. So
every time I start car I must tell the iPhone to connect. 

 On 22 Nov 2015, at 12:46 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [2] wrote: 

What car is it Stephen, Model and Year and what Media options do you
have in the car? I presume you've read the car manual about "auto
Bluetooth phone connection" or similar? Typically provided the pairing
is done on your phone, it would auto connect on future occasions, even
if you hadn't deleted the old phone's identity in the car's phone
library.  

Regards  

Pete.

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Subject:New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

 Hi folks,
 I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my
new 6s with the Car Media. Previously when I started my car the iPhone
5 automatically connected. 
 However ??? this does not happen with my 6s. Each time I start the
car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car Media and wait
for connection. Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as
it was with my old iPhone 5 ? 
 Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings !  
Regards,
Stephen Chape 

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Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

2015-11-21 Thread petercrisp


What car is it Stephen, Model and Year and what Media options do you
have in the car? I presume you've read the car manual about "auto
Bluetooth phone connection" or similar? Typically provided the pairing
is done on your phone, it would auto connect on future occasions, even
if you hadn't deleted the old phone's identity in the car's phone
library.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Subject:New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

 Hi folks,
 I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my
new 6s with the Car Media. Previously when I started my car the iPhone
5 automatically connected. 
 However ??? this does not happen with my 6s. Each time I start the
car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car Media and wait
for connection. Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as
it was with my old iPhone 5 ? 
 Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings ! 
Regards,
Stephen Chape 


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Re: Why Apple Keeps Turning ON Your Bluetooth

2014-03-16 Thread Marcus F Harris
Very interesting Ronnie. 
I like to leave Bluetooth on as I have my GARMIN Nuvi ready for in car telecons 
via my iPhone. It works a treat and avoids fumbling around while driving ( and 
getting booked) 
Cheers Marcus
 
Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 16 Mar 2014, at 11:34 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUG members,
 
 I always have Bluetooth turned OFF until I require it to be enabled for 
 Personal Hotspot or other tasks that require Bluetooth. 
 I noticed Apple turned Bluetooth ON after I installed iOS 7 on my iPhone  
 iPad, and have turned BT ON each update since. 
 As I am aware of Apple doing this, I immediately check Bluetooth after each 
 update and just turn it OFF in Settings.
 
 But, I had been wondering What is the reason Apple are doing this?
 I knew it had to do with knowing/advertising where I am, and I had heard of 
 Apple using iBeacons in their stores to push information to customers. (iOS 7 
  above is required to use iBeacon technology.)
 
 So I did more research on iBeacons... and found iBeacons are not only in 
 Apple Stores but 'everywhere'... Well not quite everywhere, yet! ;-) iBeacons 
 could be the future of Retail.
 
 You might be interested in reading this article on the Forbes website:
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/12/apple-keeps-turning-bluetooth-on-when-you-update-your-iphone/
 
 Why Apple Keeps Turning on Your Bluetooth
 
 It seems like with every recent iOS update, Apple re-enables Bluetooth if you 
 turned it off previously. But why? Kashmir Hill of Forbes proposes that the 
 answer has something to do with iBeacons.
 “Without Bluetooth, iBeacons won’t work.”
 
 Another article worth a read:
 IBEACON technology that lets stores push information straight to your 
 smartphone is set to change the way Australians shop, writes Rod Chester
 http://www.news.com.au/national/ibeacons-on-the-shopping-list/story-e6frfkp9-1226823634849
 Of course if you don't want to allow iBeacons to work on your iOS 7 iPhone... 
 Just turn Bluetooth OFF!  Without Bluetooth, iBeacons won’t work.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
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Re: Why Apple Keeps Turning ON Your Bluetooth

2014-03-16 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Marcus,

I turn Bluetooth on when I am driving as my iPhone connects to TomTom GO.
It is an automatic action as soon as I enter my car ;-)
I don't use my iPhone in the car without a hands free device, as it is 
extremely dangerous, plus I already have enough demerits points for over the 
speed limit :(

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 16 Mar 2014, at 5:19 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 Very interesting Ronnie. 
 I like to leave Bluetooth on as I have my GARMIN Nuvi ready for in car 
 telecons via my iPhone. It works a treat and avoids fumbling around while 
 driving ( and getting booked) 
 Cheers Marcus
  
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
 
 On 16 Mar 2014, at 11:34 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUG members,
 
 I always have Bluetooth turned OFF until I require it to be enabled for 
 Personal Hotspot or other tasks that require Bluetooth. 
 I noticed Apple turned Bluetooth ON after I installed iOS 7 on my iPhone  
 iPad, and have turned BT ON each update since. 
 As I am aware of Apple doing this, I immediately check Bluetooth after each 
 update and just turn it OFF in Settings.
 
 But, I had been wondering What is the reason Apple are doing this?
 I knew it had to do with knowing/advertising where I am, and I had heard of 
 Apple using iBeacons in their stores to push information to customers. (iOS 
 7  above is required to use iBeacon technology.)
 
 So I did more research on iBeacons... and found iBeacons are not only in 
 Apple Stores but 'everywhere'... Well not quite everywhere, yet! ;-) 
 iBeacons could be the future of Retail.
 
 You might be interested in reading this article on the Forbes website:
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/03/12/apple-keeps-turning-bluetooth-on-when-you-update-your-iphone/
 
 Why Apple Keeps Turning on Your Bluetooth
 
 It seems like with every recent iOS update, Apple re-enables Bluetooth if 
 you turned it off previously. But why? Kashmir Hill of Forbes proposes that 
 the answer has something to do with iBeacons.
 “Without Bluetooth, iBeacons won’t work.”
 
 Another article worth a read:
 IBEACON technology that lets stores push information straight to your 
 smartphone is set to change the way Australians shop, writes Rod Chester
 http://www.news.com.au/national/ibeacons-on-the-shopping-list/story-e6frfkp9-1226823634849
 Of course if you don't want to allow iBeacons to work on your iOS 7 
 iPhone... Just turn Bluetooth OFF!  Without Bluetooth, iBeacons won’t work.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
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Re: Mail and Bluetooth Weirdness

2013-10-26 Thread Diana Graham Stevens
Hi Ronni

Thanks for your help. I can't be sure that the two problems are linked, two out 
of two linked events is 100% of a very small sample.

RSSI is -47, so that does not seem to be the problem. I don't know if it was 
this level before I changed the batteries. 

It is a POP account which was originally set up automatically by inputting the 
email address and password. 

The incoming Mail Server is mail.iinet.net.au.

The SMTP is iinet.net.au, when I choose to edit the SMTP list it shows that 
this is the description and that the server name is mail.iinet.net.au.

The default ports are selected, as is SSL.

Last night I got a message that the server could not be contacted through the 
default ports so I changed it to custom port 995 and that worked. Since then 
the computer has been rebooted and it is back to the original settings. 

At present both mail and the mouse are working.

I forgot to say in the original message that it is a MacBook Air 13 1.3 GHz 
i5DC/4GB/128GB running OS 10.8.5.

This morning I also had a problem with Mail on my iPad 4 running iOS7. One of 
my accounts could receive mail but not send it. The SMTP was set to custom port 
110, I tried custom port 995, powered off and on, all to no avail. So I deleted 
the account and set it up again, works fine on custom port 995 (selected 
automatically). I think we have gremlins!

I could not think of a reason why the two events should be linked, they are 
both communications problems but different systems. I shall just have to hope 
it doesn't happen again. If it does I shall check the RSSI as well as the Mail 
settings.

Best wishes from Diana

Sent from my iPad

 On 26 Oct 2013, at 1:33 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Diana,
 
 I can't explain why or how the two incidents are related, but you have 
 indicated that they are.
 
 First - the Bluetooth Mouse dropping connection
 If you are experiencing drop-outs the first thing to do is check the signal 
 strength, which is computed for Bluetooth devices as a 'Received Signal 
 Strength Indication' (RSSI) value. 
 While the connection stability may vary a touch with different RSSI values, 
 the following is a general guide to what constitutes a good or bad connection:
 
 0 to -60 -- good
 -61 to -70 -- OK
 -71 to -90 -- poor
 less than -90 -- bad
 
 There are several places you can check in OS X for this value: The Bluetooth 
 Menu, The Bluetooth System Preferences,  The RSSI Chart.
 The Bluetooth menu:
 If you have the Bluetooth menu extra activated (done in the Bluetooth system 
 preferences), then similarly to getting optional settings for audio devices 
 through the volume menu, you can hold the Option key while clicking this menu 
 to get additional information and settings for Bluetooth devices. 
 With the optional Bluetooth menu activated, select your listed Bluetooth 
 device and the submenu for it should show the detected RSSI value for it.
 ---
 Second - Check the email Account Settings:
 What iiNet Account settings do you have? Is it a POP or IMAP Account?
 Incoming Mail Server: mail.iinet.net.au
 Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): mail.iinet.net.au
 Use Default Ports: (25, 465, 587)
 Or are you using a Custom Port... What Port is SMTP? 
 Is SSL 'checked' or 'unchecked'?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.9 Mavericks
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 26 Oct 2013, at 12:14 pm, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 I hope you are having a pleasant weekend. We are having two problems with 
 Graham's MacBook Air and they appear to be linked, if you cure one the other 
 is cured too. I don't understand why.
 
 Problems
 1. Mail does not arrive.
 2. Bluetooth mouse not seen.
 
 Yesterday using the trackpad I changed the SMTP port (to be the same as my 
 account on my MacBook Pro), the mail arrived and the mouse was reactivated.
 
 Today the same two problems, I decided the mouse batteries must be causing 
 the mouse to disappear so first I replaced the batteries, deleted the mouse 
 and reconnected. As soon as it connected I heard the mail arrive.
 
 Can anyone explain why this should happen? It is just inconvenient at 
 present but I should like to know if it is a sign of some basic problem 
 which we should address.
 
 Best wishes to all from Diana
 
 
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Re: Mail and Bluetooth Weirdness

2013-10-26 Thread Daniel Kerr
Hi Diana

Unsure what has changed, as it had sent and received emails when I had set it 
up. But yes if it's using mail.iinet.net.au then it should be fine to send.

Also, just a thought, do you have the Bluetooth mouse linked to your laptop as 
well? As if you do, then that could be overriding the MacBook Air when the 
laptop is open or on. If you had it set it, and only want it to work with the 
MB Air, then on your MacBook Pro you can go into System Preferences - Bluetooth 
and remove it. (click on it on the left hand side and click the minus (-) sign 
down the bottom.

If having problems with the devices and mail, you could also try resetting 
modem and Airport as well. (Or could just be a hiccup with iinet). I get them 
sometimes when it's the only account out of 6 that goes offline. Then a few 
minutes later it comes back again.
(sometimes I just put it down to too many devices checking the same account at 
the same time,…i.e. too many hands in the cookie jar. :)

Just a thought…..

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
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On 26/10/2013, at 2:44 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for your help. I can't be sure that the two problems are linked, two 
 out of two linked events is 100% of a very small sample.
 
 RSSI is -47, so that does not seem to be the problem. I don't know if it was 
 this level before I changed the batteries. 
 
 It is a POP account which was originally set up automatically by inputting 
 the email address and password. 
 
 The incoming Mail Server is mail.iinet.net.au.
 
 The SMTP is iinet.net.au, when I choose to edit the SMTP list it shows that 
 this is the description and that the server name is mail.iinet.net.au.
 
 The default ports are selected, as is SSL.
 
 Last night I got a message that the server could not be contacted through the 
 default ports so I changed it to custom port 995 and that worked. Since then 
 the computer has been rebooted and it is back to the original settings. 
 
 At present both mail and the mouse are working.
 
 I forgot to say in the original message that it is a MacBook Air 13 1.3 GHz 
 i5DC/4GB/128GB running OS 10.8.5.
 
 This morning I also had a problem with Mail on my iPad 4 running iOS7. One of 
 my accounts could receive mail but not send it. The SMTP was set to custom 
 port 110, I tried custom port 995, powered off and on, all to no avail. So I 
 deleted the account and set it up again, works fine on custom port 995 
 (selected automatically). I think we have gremlins!
 
 I could not think of a reason why the two events should be linked, they are 
 both communications problems but different systems. I shall just have to hope 
 it doesn't happen again. If it does I shall check the RSSI as well as the 
 Mail settings.
 
 Best wishes from Diana
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 26 Oct 2013, at 1:33 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Diana,
 
 I can't explain why or how the two incidents are related, but you have 
 indicated that they are.
 
 First - the Bluetooth Mouse dropping connection
 If you are experiencing drop-outs the first thing to do is check the signal 
 strength, which is computed for Bluetooth devices as a 'Received Signal 
 Strength Indication' (RSSI) value. 
 While the connection stability may vary a touch with different RSSI values, 
 the following is a general guide to what constitutes a good or bad 
 connection:
 
 0 to -60 -- good
 -61 to -70 -- OK
 -71 to -90 -- poor
 less than -90 -- bad
 
 There are several places you can check in OS X for this value: The Bluetooth 
 Menu, The Bluetooth System Preferences,  The RSSI Chart.
 The Bluetooth menu:
 If you have the Bluetooth menu extra activated (done in the Bluetooth system 
 preferences), then similarly to getting optional settings for audio devices 
 through the volume menu, you can hold the Option key while clicking this 
 menu to get additional information and settings for Bluetooth devices. 
 With the optional Bluetooth menu activated, select your listed Bluetooth 
 device and the submenu for it should show the detected RSSI value for it.
 ---
 Second - Check the email Account Settings:
 What iiNet Account settings do you have? Is it a POP or IMAP Account?
 Incoming Mail Server: mail.iinet.net.au
 Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): mail.iinet.net.au
 Use Default Ports: (25, 465, 587)
 Or are you using a Custom Port... What Port is SMTP? 
 Is SSL 'checked' or 'unchecked'?
 
 Cheers

Re: Mail and Bluetooth Weirdness

2013-10-26 Thread Diana Graham Stevens
Hi Daniel

Thanks for your help. It was all working fine until yesterday apart from one 
hiccup when all my accounts went off-line too. We had lost touch with the Time 
Capsule and a reboot was all that was required. 

With the MacBook Air problem the account still appeared to be on-line and the 
same account was working fine on the iMac (connected via ethernet), all the 
MacBook Pro accounts were working via Airport. 

The mouse Graham was using was paired with my computer but it was not 
connected. I have unpaired it just in case that was the problem. When I paired 
Graham's mouse the name of my (connected) mouse was not detected though it did 
list the iMac and MacBook Pro.

The problem with my iPad not sending mail said that either the server and/or 
password was incorrect. I checked that the server was correct and I re-entered 
the password but it still gave the same error message. At the same time that 
account could send mail from the MacBook Pro.

I had considered that it might be an iinet problem, Graham's MacBook Air was 
the only account using the default ports.

If it happens again I shall re-boot everything!

Best wishes from Diana

On 26/10/2013, at 4:28 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi Diana
 
 Unsure what has changed, as it had sent and received emails when I had set it 
 up. But yes if it's using mail.iinet.net.au then it should be fine to send.
 
 Also, just a thought, do you have the Bluetooth mouse linked to your laptop 
 as well? As if you do, then that could be overriding the MacBook Air when 
 the laptop is open or on. If you had it set it, and only want it to work with 
 the MB Air, then on your MacBook Pro you can go into System Preferences - 
 Bluetooth and remove it. (click on it on the left hand side and click the 
 minus (-) sign down the bottom.
 
 If having problems with the devices and mail, you could also try resetting 
 modem and Airport as well. (Or could just be a hiccup with iinet). I get them 
 sometimes when it's the only account out of 6 that goes offline. Then a few 
 minutes later it comes back again.
 (sometimes I just put it down to too many devices checking the same account 
 at the same time,…i.e. too many hands in the cookie jar. :)
 
 Just a thought…..
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
 as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
 Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
 accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
 email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
 author be requested. 
 
 On 26/10/2013, at 2:44 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for your help. I can't be sure that the two problems are linked, two 
 out of two linked events is 100% of a very small sample.
 
 RSSI is -47, so that does not seem to be the problem. I don't know if it was 
 this level before I changed the batteries. 
 
 It is a POP account which was originally set up automatically by inputting 
 the email address and password. 
 
 The incoming Mail Server is mail.iinet.net.au.
 
 The SMTP is iinet.net.au, when I choose to edit the SMTP list it shows that 
 this is the description and that the server name is mail.iinet.net.au.
 
 The default ports are selected, as is SSL.
 
 Last night I got a message that the server could not be contacted through 
 the default ports so I changed it to custom port 995 and that worked. Since 
 then the computer has been rebooted and it is back to the original settings. 
 
 At present both mail and the mouse are working.
 
 I forgot to say in the original message that it is a MacBook Air 13 1.3 GHz 
 i5DC/4GB/128GB running OS 10.8.5.
 
 This morning I also had a problem with Mail on my iPad 4 running iOS7. One 
 of my accounts could receive mail but not send it. The SMTP was set to 
 custom port 110, I tried custom port 995, powered off and on, all to no 
 avail. So I deleted the account and set it up again, works fine on custom 
 port 995 (selected automatically). I think we have gremlins!
 
 I could not think of a reason why the two events should be linked, they are 
 both communications problems but different systems. I shall just have to 
 hope it doesn't happen again. If it does I shall check the RSSI as well as 
 the Mail settings.
 
 Best wishes from Diana
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 26 Oct 2013, at 1:33 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Diana,
 
 I can't explain why or how the two incidents are related, but you have 
 indicated that they are.
 
 First - the Bluetooth Mouse dropping connection
 If you are experiencing drop-outs the first thing to do is check the signal 
 strength, which

Mail and Bluetooth Weirdness

2013-10-25 Thread Diana Graham Stevens
Hi All

I hope you are having a pleasant weekend. We are having two problems with 
Graham's MacBook Air and they appear to be linked, if you cure one the other is 
cured too. I don't understand why.

Problems
1. Mail does not arrive.
2. Bluetooth mouse not seen.

Yesterday using the trackpad I changed the SMTP port (to be the same as my 
account on my MacBook Pro), the mail arrived and the mouse was reactivated.

Today the same two problems, I decided the mouse batteries must be causing the 
mouse to disappear so first I replaced the batteries, deleted the mouse and 
reconnected. As soon as it connected I heard the mail arrive.

Can anyone explain why this should happen? It is just inconvenient at present 
but I should like to know if it is a sign of some basic problem which we should 
address.

Best wishes to all from Diana 
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Re: Mail and Bluetooth Weirdness

2013-10-25 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Diana,

I can't explain why or how the two incidents are related, but you have 
indicated that they are.

First - the Bluetooth Mouse dropping connection:
If you are experiencing drop-outs the first thing to do is check the signal 
strength, which is computed for Bluetooth devices as a 'Received Signal 
Strength Indication' (RSSI) value. 
While the connection stability may vary a touch with different RSSI values, the 
following is a general guide to what constitutes a good or bad connection:

0 to -60 -- good
-61 to -70 -- OK
-71 to -90 -- poor
less than -90 -- bad

There are several places you can check in OS X for this value: The Bluetooth 
Menu, The Bluetooth System Preferences,  The RSSI Chart.
The Bluetooth menu:
If you have the Bluetooth menu extra activated (done in the Bluetooth system 
preferences), then similarly to getting optional settings for audio devices 
through the volume menu, you can hold the Option key while clicking this menu 
to get additional information and settings for Bluetooth devices. 
With the optional Bluetooth menu activated, select your listed Bluetooth device 
and the submenu for it should show the detected RSSI value for it.
---
Second - Check the email Account Settings:
What iiNet Account settings do you have? Is it a POP or IMAP Account?
Incoming Mail Server: mail.iinet.net.au
Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): mail.iinet.net.au
Use Default Ports: (25, 465, 587)
Or are you using a Custom Port... What Port is SMTP? 
Is SSL 'checked' or 'unchecked'?

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 26 Oct 2013, at 12:14 pm, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
wrote:

 Hi All
 
 I hope you are having a pleasant weekend. We are having two problems with 
 Graham's MacBook Air and they appear to be linked, if you cure one the other 
 is cured too. I don't understand why.
 
 Problems
 1. Mail does not arrive.
 2. Bluetooth mouse not seen.
 
 Yesterday using the trackpad I changed the SMTP port (to be the same as my 
 account on my MacBook Pro), the mail arrived and the mouse was reactivated.
 
 Today the same two problems, I decided the mouse batteries must be causing 
 the mouse to disappear so first I replaced the batteries, deleted the mouse 
 and reconnected. As soon as it connected I heard the mail arrive.
 
 Can anyone explain why this should happen? It is just inconvenient at present 
 but I should like to know if it is a sign of some basic problem which we 
 should address.
 
 Best wishes to all from Diana 


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Re: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-24 Thread Alan Smith
Closing thread - -

Found more documentation on Bluetooth and an article in a Snow Leopard manual.  
I can now see how to set it up and send a file but it seems to be fiddly.  I'll 
persevere when I have time and then test it for practical use.

Thanks
Alan

On 23/05/2013, at 4:04 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 re-sending in Plain Text - - - 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth File Exchange
 Date: 23 May 2013 2:22:52 PM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Terriffic!  But how can I actually send a file?  I went through all the set 
 up procedures, read the Apple Support articles, and restarted both iMacs, 
 but still can't find a way to send a selected file.  And Finder Share menu 
 does not include Bluetooth as a send medium.  What am I missing?   
 
 Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is Bluetooth File Exchange for people 
 without a network?  That is, would I need to put my file to be sent in my 
 public shared folder, and then the second computer can invoke Bluetooth to 
 see (and copy) the file?
 
 Love AirDrop, but it can ony receive files to the Downloads folder.   
 Bluetooth default can be changed to receive files to any folder, or to an 
 attached external hard drive.  Main interest in Bluetooth was to only copy 
 the file once - I have concerns about data corruption as files are moved and 
 copied two or three times around a home network just to get from point A to 
 point B.   Just a thought, perhaps Time Capsule would do a better job in 
 transferring files: I'll have to read up the TC specs/features to see if it 
 possible.
 
 Cheers
 Alan  
 
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 1:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, you can send files with Bluetooth to other Macs on your local Network. 
 But AirDrop is faster as it uses WiFi and doesn't require passwords, setup, 
 or special settings.
 Sharing is simple 'Drag  Drop'.
 
 AirDrop:
 Click the AirDrop icon in the sidebar of a Finder window on both computers. 
 The user pictures and computer names of those near you appear in the 
 AirDrop window.
 Drag the item you want to share to another person's picture. Or use the 
 Share button in a Finder Window.
 Once that person accepts the file, it's transferred directly to their 
 downloads folder.
 
 Sending Files via Bluetooth:
 System Preferences  Sharing - turn Bluetooth ON
 When receiving items: Accept  Save (to save all items to your computer) or 
 select another option
 Folder for accepted items: Downloads (or other location)
 
 When other devices browse: Always Allow (let's devices browse your 
 computer) or Ask what to do
 Folder others can browse: Public
 ---
 Applications  Utilities - Bluetooth File Exchange
 File  Send File
 Share your files using Bluetooth
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10786
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 22/05/2013, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Can files be copied between Macs using Bluetooth, or is Bluetooth just for 
 sending items from a portable device (e.g. smart phone) to a Mac?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
  Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5   3.2Ghz 8GB RAM - OSX 10.8.3
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.3
  iPad2; ATV2;  iPhone5
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Re: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-24 Thread Daniel Kerr
I wouldn't be using Bluetooth to move a file either. It's ok for very little 
things,..but not good for much else.
From memory Bluetooth works about 2MB/sec, USB1 is 12MB/sec, Firewire400 is 
400MB/sec, USB2 is 480MB/sec,…and so on,…
(I can keep going if anyone still wants to play,…lol)

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

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On 24/05/2013, at 7:38 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Closing thread - -
 
 Found more documentation on Bluetooth and an article in a Snow Leopard 
 manual.  I can now see how to set it up and send a file but it seems to be 
 fiddly.  I'll persevere when I have time and then test it for practical use.
 
 Thanks
 Alan
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 4:04 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 re-sending in Plain Text - - - 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth File Exchange
 Date: 23 May 2013 2:22:52 PM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Terriffic!  But how can I actually send a file?  I went through all the set 
 up procedures, read the Apple Support articles, and restarted both iMacs, 
 but still can't find a way to send a selected file.  And Finder Share menu 
 does not include Bluetooth as a send medium.  What am I missing?   
 
 Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is Bluetooth File Exchange for people 
 without a network?  That is, would I need to put my file to be sent in my 
 public shared folder, and then the second computer can invoke Bluetooth to 
 see (and copy) the file?
 
 Love AirDrop, but it can ony receive files to the Downloads folder.   
 Bluetooth default can be changed to receive files to any folder, or to an 
 attached external hard drive.  Main interest in Bluetooth was to only copy 
 the file once - I have concerns about data corruption as files are moved 
 and copied two or three times around a home network just to get from point 
 A to point B.   Just a thought, perhaps Time Capsule would do a better job 
 in transferring files: I'll have to read up the TC specs/features to see if 
 it possible.
 
 Cheers
 Alan  
 
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 1:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, you can send files with Bluetooth to other Macs on your local 
 Network. 
 But AirDrop is faster as it uses WiFi and doesn't require passwords, 
 setup, or special settings.
 Sharing is simple 'Drag  Drop'.
 
 AirDrop:
 Click the AirDrop icon in the sidebar of a Finder window on both 
 computers. 
 The user pictures and computer names of those near you appear in the 
 AirDrop window.
 Drag the item you want to share to another person's picture. Or use the 
 Share button in a Finder Window.
 Once that person accepts the file, it's transferred directly to their 
 downloads folder.
 
 Sending Files via Bluetooth:
 System Preferences  Sharing - turn Bluetooth ON
 When receiving items: Accept  Save (to save all items to your computer) 
 or select another option
 Folder for accepted items: Downloads (or other location)
 
 When other devices browse: Always Allow (let's devices browse your 
 computer) or Ask what to do
 Folder others can browse: Public
 ---
 Applications  Utilities - Bluetooth File Exchange
 File  Send File
 Share your files using Bluetooth
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10786
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 22/05/2013, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Can files be copied between Macs using Bluetooth, or is Bluetooth just 
 for sending items from a portable device (e.g. smart phone) to a Mac?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5   3.2Ghz 8GB RAM - OSX 10.8.3
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.3
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Re: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-24 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Daniel

Limitations of small file size and slow transfer speed are accepted, but 
Bluetooth has three possible advantages.

1.  Documentation says files can be pushed or pulled between computers.  
AirDrop needs operations on both computers.
2.  Files can come-from and go-to anywhere in the file structure of two 
computers, including external drives.  AirDrop can only write the file to the 
Downloads folder.
3.  Files are copied just once - from source to desination.  (An extension of 
point 2.)  Less chance of data corruption that can occur when more than one 
copy/paste action is taken. 

There may another disadvantage - the tedious set up arrangements including 
pre-setting the destination folder (may not be able to allocate the folder on 
the fly).  So, one day, when the garden needs work and I don't, I may look at 
how Bluetooth performs in practice!

My initial question was resolved - yes, Bluetooth can be used to transfer files 
between two Macs.

I will probably continue to use AirDrop for any file transfer as it is so very 
convenient.

Cheers
Alan

On 24/05/2013, at 8:26 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 I wouldn't be using Bluetooth to move a file either. It's ok for very little 
 things,..but not good for much else.
 From memory Bluetooth works about 2MB/sec, USB1 is 12MB/sec, Firewire400 is 
 400MB/sec, USB2 is 480MB/sec,…and so on,…
 (I can keep going if anyone still wants to play,…lol)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 24/05/2013, at 7:38 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Closing thread - -
 
 Found more documentation on Bluetooth and an article in a Snow Leopard 
 manual.  I can now see how to set it up and send a file but it seems to be 
 fiddly.  I'll persevere when I have time and then test it for practical use.
 
 Thanks
 Alan
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 4:04 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 re-sending in Plain Text - - - 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth File Exchange
 Date: 23 May 2013 2:22:52 PM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Terriffic!  But how can I actually send a file?  I went through all the 
 set up procedures, read the Apple Support articles, and restarted both 
 iMacs, but still can't find a way to send a selected file.  And Finder 
 Share menu does not include Bluetooth as a send medium.  What am I 
 missing?   
 
 Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is Bluetooth File Exchange for people 
 without a network?  That is, would I need to put my file to be sent in 
 my public shared folder, and then the second computer can invoke Bluetooth 
 to see (and copy) the file?
 
 Love AirDrop, but it can ony receive files to the Downloads folder.   
 Bluetooth default can be changed to receive files to any folder, or to an 
 attached external hard drive.  Main interest in Bluetooth was to only copy 
 the file once - I have concerns about data corruption as files are moved 
 and copied two or three times around a home network just to get from point 
 A to point B.   Just a thought, perhaps Time Capsule would do a better job 
 in transferring files: I'll have to read up the TC specs/features to see 
 if it possible.
 
 Cheers
 Alan  
 
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 1:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, you can send files with Bluetooth to other Macs on your local 
 Network. 
 But AirDrop is faster as it uses WiFi and doesn't require passwords, 
 setup, or special settings.
 Sharing is simple 'Drag  Drop'.
 
 AirDrop:
 Click the AirDrop icon in the sidebar of a Finder window on both 
 computers. 
 The user pictures and computer names of those near you appear in the 
 AirDrop window.
 Drag the item you want to share to another person's picture. Or use the 
 Share button in a Finder Window.
 Once that person accepts the file, it's transferred directly to their 
 downloads folder.
 
 Sending Files via Bluetooth:
 System Preferences  Sharing - turn Bluetooth ON
 When receiving items: Accept  Save (to save all items to your computer) 
 or select another option
 Folder for accepted items: Downloads (or other location)
 
 When other devices browse: Always Allow (let's devices browse your 
 computer) or Ask what to do
 Folder others can browse: Public
 ---
 Applications  Utilities - Bluetooth File Exchange
 File  Send File
 Share your files using Bluetooth
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10786
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 22/05/2013, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Can files be copied between Macs using Bluetooth, or is Bluetooth just 
 for sending items from a portable device (e.g. smart phone) to a Mac?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
 Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5   3.2Ghz 8GB RAM - OSX 10.8.3
 Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM

Re: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-24 Thread Daniel Kerr
Or why not just use File Sharing, which allows you to use the direct location 
(or desktop folder) you want to copy to. It's then there and you can make an 
alias and drop the file from one machine to the other.

Or, use Screen Sharing. If you screen share from the one iMac to the other iMac 
and you drag the file you can then put it into the same location directly from 
one machine to the other. (i.e. you can drag from your Desktop on iMac 1 to the 
Desktop on iMac 2). When the screen sharing window is open you can just drag it 
from say your Desktop into the open Sharing Window. You can then have it 
going directly into an external drive connected to imac2 if you want. One 
transfer. Done.

Just another way to do.
I always go the simplest fastest ways to do things, rather then lots of 
different things. Makes it easier.

Kind regards
Daniel
---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

On 24/05/2013, at 9:35 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Daniel
 
 Limitations of small file size and slow transfer speed are accepted, but 
 Bluetooth has three possible advantages.
 
 1.  Documentation says files can be pushed or pulled between computers.  
 AirDrop needs operations on both computers.
 2.  Files can come-from and go-to anywhere in the file structure of two 
 computers, including external drives.  AirDrop can only write the file to the 
 Downloads folder.
 3.  Files are copied just once - from source to desination.  (An extension of 
 point 2.)  Less chance of data corruption that can occur when more than one 
 copy/paste action is taken. 
 
 There may another disadvantage - the tedious set up arrangements including 
 pre-setting the destination folder (may not be able to allocate the folder on 
 the fly).  So, one day, when the garden needs work and I don't, I may look at 
 how Bluetooth performs in practice!
 
 My initial question was resolved - yes, Bluetooth can be used to transfer 
 files between two Macs.
 
 I will probably continue to use AirDrop for any file transfer as it is so 
 very convenient.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 24/05/2013, at 8:26 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 I wouldn't be using Bluetooth to move a file either. It's ok for very little 
 things,..but not good for much else.
 From memory Bluetooth works about 2MB/sec, USB1 is 12MB/sec, Firewire400 is 
 400MB/sec, USB2 is 480MB/sec,…and so on,…
 (I can keep going if anyone still wants to play,…lol)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 24/05/2013, at 7:38 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Closing thread - -
 
 Found more documentation on Bluetooth and an article in a Snow Leopard 
 manual.  I can now see how to set it up and send a file but it seems to be 
 fiddly.  I'll persevere when I have time and then test it for practical use.
 
 Thanks
 Alan
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 4:04 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 re-sending in Plain Text - - - 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth File Exchange
 Date: 23 May 2013 2:22:52 PM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Terriffic!  But how can I actually send a file?  I went through all the 
 set up procedures, read the Apple Support articles, and restarted both 
 iMacs, but still can't find a way to send a selected file.  And Finder 
 Share menu does not include Bluetooth as a send medium.  What am I 
 missing?   
 
 Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is Bluetooth File Exchange for people 
 without a network?  That is, would I need to put my file to be sent in 
 my public shared folder, and then the second computer can invoke 
 Bluetooth to see (and copy) the file?
 
 Love AirDrop, but it can ony receive files to the Downloads folder.   
 Bluetooth default can be changed to receive files to any folder, or to an 
 attached external hard drive.  Main interest in Bluetooth was to only 
 copy the file once - I have concerns about data corruption as files are 
 moved and copied two or three times around a home network just to get 
 from point A to point B.   Just a thought, perhaps Time Capsule would do 
 a better job in transferring files: I'll have to read up the TC 
 specs/features to see if it possible.
 
 Cheers
 Alan  
 
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 1:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, you can send files with Bluetooth to other Macs on your local 
 Network. 
 But AirDrop is faster as it uses WiFi and doesn't require passwords, 
 setup, or special settings.
 Sharing is simple 'Drag  Drop'.
 
 AirDrop:
 Click the AirDrop icon in the sidebar of a Finder window on both 
 computers. 
 The user pictures and computer names of those near you appear in the 
 AirDrop window.
 Drag the item you want

Re: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-24 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Daniel

That's one problem with Apple - there are lots of different ways of achieving 
the same thing.  I'm with you that the fastest and simplest way to do a job 
makes life easier.

Hadn't thought of Screen Sharing.  I'll look at that one day too - and soon.

Cheers
Alan

On 24/05/2013, at 9:56 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Or why not just use File Sharing, which allows you to use the direct location 
 (or desktop folder) you want to copy to. It's then there and you can make an 
 alias and drop the file from one machine to the other.
 
 Or, use Screen Sharing. If you screen share from the one iMac to the other 
 iMac and you drag the file you can then put it into the same location 
 directly from one machine to the other. (i.e. you can drag from your Desktop 
 on iMac 1 to the Desktop on iMac 2). When the screen sharing window is open 
 you can just drag it from say your Desktop into the open Sharing Window. 
 You can then have it going directly into an external drive connected to imac2 
 if you want. One transfer. Done.
 
 Just another way to do.
 I always go the simplest fastest ways to do things, rather then lots of 
 different things. Makes it easier.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 24/05/2013, at 9:35 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel
 
 Limitations of small file size and slow transfer speed are accepted, but 
 Bluetooth has three possible advantages.
 
 1.  Documentation says files can be pushed or pulled between computers.  
 AirDrop needs operations on both computers.
 2.  Files can come-from and go-to anywhere in the file structure of two 
 computers, including external drives.  AirDrop can only write the file to 
 the Downloads folder.
 3.  Files are copied just once - from source to desination.  (An extension 
 of point 2.)  Less chance of data corruption that can occur when more than 
 one copy/paste action is taken. 
 
 There may another disadvantage - the tedious set up arrangements including 
 pre-setting the destination folder (may not be able to allocate the folder 
 on the fly).  So, one day, when the garden needs work and I don't, I may 
 look at how Bluetooth performs in practice!
 
 My initial question was resolved - yes, Bluetooth can be used to transfer 
 files between two Macs.
 
 I will probably continue to use AirDrop for any file transfer as it is so 
 very convenient.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 24/05/2013, at 8:26 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 I wouldn't be using Bluetooth to move a file either. It's ok for very 
 little things,..but not good for much else.
 From memory Bluetooth works about 2MB/sec, USB1 is 12MB/sec, Firewire400 is 
 400MB/sec, USB2 is 480MB/sec,…and so on,…
 (I can keep going if anyone still wants to play,…lol)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 24/05/2013, at 7:38 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Closing thread - -
 
 Found more documentation on Bluetooth and an article in a Snow Leopard 
 manual.  I can now see how to set it up and send a file but it seems to be 
 fiddly.  I'll persevere when I have time and then test it for practical 
 use.
 
 Thanks
 Alan
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 4:04 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 re-sending in Plain Text - - - 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth File Exchange
 Date: 23 May 2013 2:22:52 PM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Terriffic!  But how can I actually send a file?  I went through all the 
 set up procedures, read the Apple Support articles, and restarted both 
 iMacs, but still can't find a way to send a selected file.  And Finder 
 Share menu does not include Bluetooth as a send medium.  What am I 
 missing?   
 
 Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is Bluetooth File Exchange for 
 people without a network?  That is, would I need to put my file to be 
 sent in my public shared folder, and then the second computer can 
 invoke Bluetooth to see (and copy) the file?
 
 Love AirDrop, but it can ony receive files to the Downloads folder.   
 Bluetooth default can be changed to receive files to any folder, or to 
 an attached external hard drive.  Main interest in Bluetooth was to only 
 copy the file once - I have concerns about data corruption as files are 
 moved and copied two or three times around a home network just to get 
 from point A to point B.   Just a thought, perhaps Time Capsule would do 
 a better job in transferring files: I'll have to read up the TC 
 specs/features to see if it possible.
 
 Cheers
 Alan  
 
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 1:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, you can send files

Fwd: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-23 Thread Alan Smith
re-sending in Plain Text - - - 

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: Re: Bluetooth File Exchange
 Date: 23 May 2013 2:22:52 PM AWST
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Terriffic!  But how can I actually send a file?  I went through all the set 
 up procedures, read the Apple Support articles, and restarted both iMacs, but 
 still can't find a way to send a selected file.  And Finder Share menu does 
 not include Bluetooth as a send medium.  What am I missing?   
 
 Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is Bluetooth File Exchange for people 
 without a network?  That is, would I need to put my file to be sent in my 
 public shared folder, and then the second computer can invoke Bluetooth to 
 see (and copy) the file?
 
 Love AirDrop, but it can ony receive files to the Downloads folder.   
 Bluetooth default can be changed to receive files to any folder, or to an 
 attached external hard drive.  Main interest in Bluetooth was to only copy 
 the file once - I have concerns about data corruption as files are moved and 
 copied two or three times around a home network just to get from point A to 
 point B.   Just a thought, perhaps Time Capsule would do a better job in 
 transferring files: I'll have to read up the TC specs/features to see if it 
 possible.
 
 Cheers
 Alan  
 
 
 On 23/05/2013, at 1:19 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, you can send files with Bluetooth to other Macs on your local Network. 
 But AirDrop is faster as it uses WiFi and doesn't require passwords, setup, 
 or special settings.
 Sharing is simple 'Drag  Drop'.
 
 AirDrop:
 Click the AirDrop icon in the sidebar of a Finder window on both computers. 
 The user pictures and computer names of those near you appear in the AirDrop 
 window.
 Drag the item you want to share to another person's picture. Or use the 
 Share button in a Finder Window.
 Once that person accepts the file, it's transferred directly to their 
 downloads folder.
 
 Sending Files via Bluetooth:
 System Preferences  Sharing - turn Bluetooth ON
 When receiving items: Accept  Save (to save all items to your computer) or 
 select another option
 Folder for accepted items: Downloads (or other location)
 
 When other devices browse: Always Allow (let's devices browse your 
 computer) or Ask what to do
 Folder others can browse: Public
 ---
 Applications  Utilities - Bluetooth File Exchange
 File  Send File
 Share your files using Bluetooth
 http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10786
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 22/05/2013, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Can files be copied between Macs using Bluetooth, or is Bluetooth just for 
 sending items from a portable device (e.g. smart phone) to a Mac?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
   Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5   3.2Ghz 8GB RAM - OSX 10.8.3
   Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.3
   iPad2; ATV2;  iPhone5
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Re: Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-22 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

Yes, you can send files with Bluetooth to other Macs on your local Network. 
But AirDrop is faster as it uses WiFi and doesn't require passwords, setup, or 
special settings.
Sharing is simple 'Drag  Drop'.

AirDrop:
Click the AirDrop icon in the sidebar of a Finder window on both computers. 
The user pictures and computer names of those near you appear in the AirDrop 
window.
Drag the item you want to share to another person's picture. Or use the Share 
button in a Finder Window.
Once that person accepts the file, it's transferred directly to their downloads 
folder.

Sending Files via Bluetooth:
System Preferences  Sharing - turn Bluetooth ON
When receiving items: Accept  Save (to save all items to your computer) or 
select another option
Folder for accepted items: Downloads (or other location)

When other devices browse: Always Allow (let's devices browse your computer) 
or Ask what to do
Folder others can browse: Public
---
Applications  Utilities - Bluetooth File Exchange
File  Send File
Share your files using Bluetooth
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10786

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 22/05/2013, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Can files be copied between Macs using Bluetooth, or is Bluetooth just for 
 sending items from a portable device (e.g. smart phone) to a Mac?
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
   Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5   3.2Ghz 8GB RAM - OSX 10.8.3
   Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.3
   iPad2; ATV2;  iPhone5
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Bluetooth File Exchange

2013-05-21 Thread Alan Smith
Can files be copied between Macs using Bluetooth, or is Bluetooth just for 
sending items from a portable device (e.g. smart phone) to a Mac?

Regards, Alan

Alan Smith
  Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5   3.2Ghz 8GB RAM - OSX 10.8.3
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.8.3
  iPad2; ATV2;  iPhone5















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Re: Navigation with Bluetooth Keyboard on iPad

2012-10-26 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html

VoiceOver Commands Charts
Use your web browser to access a set of charts that map keyboard and numeric 
keypad keys to VoiceOver commands. These quick reference charts in HTML format 
are available in color and in grayscale, and can be printed at any size:

First-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
Second-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
Third-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
Fourth-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
NumPad Commander: color or grayscale

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 26/10/2012, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I can use an Apple Wireless Keyboard (aluminium) connected to my iPad.   
 That's convenient, but I still need to use touch screen navigation.  The 
 following link to decadentwaste was referred by TUAW and Apple Communities 
 for providing full navigation from the keyboard using the VoiceOver utility.
 
 http://decadentwaste.net/2011/03/navigate-using-a-bluetooth-keyboard-on-your-ios-device/
 
 I can't get the keyboard navigation to work - and can't even get VoiceOver to 
 function properly (it keeps turning itself off).  I am aware of the Apple 
 VoiceOver Getting Started  guide, but haven't studied it yet.
 
 Have WAMUGgers any experience of integrating a bluetooth keyboard and 
 VoiceOver to provide keyboard navigation on an iPad2?  Or an alternative?  I 
 would like to confirm that the process will work with iOS6.  If the problem 
 is at my end I can then pursue it at my leisure (when I find that state of 
 bliss).
 
 Cheers
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Re: Navigation with Bluetooth Keyboard on iPad

2012-10-26 Thread Alan Smith
Thanks Ronni

Cheers
Alan

On 26/10/2012, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Alan,

http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html

VoiceOver Commands Charts
Use your web browser to access a set of charts that map keyboard and numeric 
keypad keys to VoiceOver commands. These quick reference charts in HTML format 
are available in color and in grayscale, and can be printed at any size:

First-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
Second-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
Third-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
Fourth-Level VoiceOver Commands: color or grayscale
NumPad Commander: color or grayscale

http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 26/10/2012, at 12:28 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I can use an Apple Wireless Keyboard (aluminium) connected to my iPad.   
 That's convenient, but I still need to use touch screen navigation.  The 
 following link to decadentwaste was referred by TUAW and Apple Communities 
 for providing full navigation from the keyboard using the VoiceOver utility.
 
 http://decadentwaste.net/2011/03/navigate-using-a-bluetooth-keyboard-on-your-ios-device/
 
 I can't get the keyboard navigation to work - and can't even get VoiceOver to 
 function properly (it keeps turning itself off).  I am aware of the Apple 
 VoiceOver Getting Started  guide, but haven't studied it yet.
 
 Have WAMUGgers any experience of integrating a bluetooth keyboard and 
 VoiceOver to provide keyboard navigation on an iPad2?  Or an alternative?  I 
 would like to confirm that the process will work with iOS6.  If the problem 
 is at my end I can then pursue it at my leisure (when I find that state of 
 bliss).
 
 Cheers
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Navigation with Bluetooth Keyboard on iPad

2012-10-25 Thread Alan Smith
I can use an Apple Wireless Keyboard (aluminium) connected to my iPad.   That's 
convenient, but I still need to use touch screen navigation.  The following 
link to decadentwaste was referred by TUAW and Apple Communities for providing 
full navigation from the keyboard using the VoiceOver utility.

http://decadentwaste.net/2011/03/navigate-using-a-bluetooth-keyboard-on-your-ios-device/

I can't get the keyboard navigation to work - and can't even get VoiceOver to 
function properly (it keeps turning itself off).  I am aware of the Apple 
VoiceOver Getting Started  guide, but haven't studied it yet.

Have WAMUGgers any experience of integrating a bluetooth keyboard and VoiceOver 
to provide keyboard navigation on an iPad2?  Or an alternative?  I would like 
to confirm that the process will work with iOS6.  If the problem is at my end I 
can then pursue it at my leisure (when I find that state of bliss).

Cheers
Alan Smith
iPad2 with iOS 6.0
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Bluetooth stereo headphones

2012-06-24 Thread F.W. Hänel
Hi all,

Does anyone have a recommendation for some bluetooth stereo headphones that 
work with the
iPhone 3GS or iPad2 ? The type that covers the ear, no the fall-out type that's 
pushed in
to the ear.

Thanks,

Walter
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Lost Bluetooth Mouse Pairing

2012-03-08 Thread Diana Graham Stevens
Hello All

My MacbookPro (2 GHz Intel Core i7, 10.6.8) can't see the mouse any more.

When I open the Bluetooth Preferences it says 'Name not available' where it 
should give the details of the MBP. It claimed that the mouse was connected and 
discoverable but it did not work.

I tried new batteries, no go. I disconnected the mouse and now the MBP can't 
see it.

My husband's InteliMac can see both the MBP and my mouse.

I have been using the MBP with the track pad most of the time and it used to 
complain that it could not find the mouse but lately it has given up doing that.

Any suggestions are most welcome.

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Re: Lost Bluetooth Mouse Pairing

2012-03-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Diana,

Is it a Magic Mouse?

First,  have you tried restarting your MBP?

Second, have you tried going to System Preferences  Bluetooth Preferences, 
remove your bluetooth mouse, and repair it?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 09/03/2012, at 11:50 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

 Hello All
 
 My MacbookPro (2 GHz Intel Core i7, 10.6.8) can't see the mouse any more.
 
 When I open the Bluetooth Preferences it says 'Name not available' where it 
 should give the details of the MBP. It claimed that the mouse was connected 
 and discoverable but it did not work.
 
 I tried new batteries, no go. I disconnected the mouse and now the MBP can't 
 see it.
 
 My husband's InteliMac can see both the MBP and my mouse.
 
 I have been using the MBP with the track pad most of the time and it used to 
 complain that it could not find the mouse but lately it has given up doing 
 that.
 
 Any suggestions are most welcome.
 
 Diana

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Re: Lost Bluetooth Mouse Pairing

2012-03-08 Thread Diana Graham Stevens
Thanks Ronni,

Yes, Magic Mouse. Re-start fixed it. 

I should have thought of that. I have used that strategy since 1985 and the 
FatMac. Another senior moment!

Regards
Diana

On 09/03/2012, at 12:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Diana,
 
 Is it a Magic Mouse?
 
 First,  have you tried restarting your MBP?
 
 Second, have you tried going to System Preferences  Bluetooth Preferences, 
 remove your bluetooth mouse, and repair it?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 09/03/2012, at 11:50 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Hello All
 
 My MacbookPro (2 GHz Intel Core i7, 10.6.8) can't see the mouse any more.
 
 When I open the Bluetooth Preferences it says 'Name not available' where it 
 should give the details of the MBP. It claimed that the mouse was connected 
 and discoverable but it did not work.
 
 I tried new batteries, no go. I disconnected the mouse and now the MBP can't 
 see it.
 
 My husband's InteliMac can see both the MBP and my mouse.
 
 I have been using the MBP with the track pad most of the time and it used to 
 complain that it could not find the mouse but lately it has given up doing 
 that.
 
 Any suggestions are most welcome.
 
 Diana
 
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Re: Lost Bluetooth Mouse Pairing

2012-03-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Ah Diana, it’s not a senior moment… we all forget the most simple solution most 
of the time ;-)

Regards,
Ronni

On 09/03/2012, at 12:16 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

 Thanks Ronni,
 
 Yes, Magic Mouse. Re-start fixed it. 
 
 I should have thought of that. I have used that strategy since 1985 and the 
 FatMac. Another senior moment!
 
 Regards
 Diana
 
 On 09/03/2012, at 12:00 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Diana,
 
 Is it a Magic Mouse?
 
 First,  have you tried restarting your MBP?
 
 Second, have you tried going to System Preferences  Bluetooth Preferences, 
 remove your bluetooth mouse, and repair it?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 09/03/2012, at 11:50 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Hello All
 
 My MacbookPro (2 GHz Intel Core i7, 10.6.8) can't see the mouse any more.
 
 When I open the Bluetooth Preferences it says 'Name not available' where it 
 should give the details of the MBP. It claimed that the mouse was connected 
 and discoverable but it did not work.
 
 I tried new batteries, no go. I disconnected the mouse and now the MBP 
 can't see it.
 
 My husband's InteliMac can see both the MBP and my mouse.
 
 I have been using the MBP with the track pad most of the time and it used 
 to complain that it could not find the mouse but lately it has given up 
 doing that.
 
 Any suggestions are most welcome.
 
 Diana
 

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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Chris,

As you have paired the BlueAnt Supertooth 3 before with your TelstraT90, you 
must delete all info on the BlueAnt ST3 before trying to Pair it with your new 
iPhone 4S.
If you have not done this, delete all info before following the instructions 
below:

1. Make sure the Supertooth 3 is turned off.
You can tell if the Supertooth 3 is on or off by looking at the light on the 
front. If the light is on or flashing, then the Supertooth 3 is on: turn it off 
by holding down the Multi-Function button (the green button) for about 5 
seconds, until you hear the voice announce that the Supertooth 3 is powering 
down.

2. With the Supertooth 3 off, hold down the Multi-Function button for about 6 
seconds, until the light on the front of the unit starts flashing red and blue.

3. The Supertooth 3 will now prompt you to select your language: press the 
Multi-Function button when you hear your language spoken.

4. The Supertooth 3 is now in pairing mode.
You now need to activate Bluetooth on your phone, and use your phone's 
Bluetooth menu to search for devices.

Now you need to use your iPhone to search for Bluetooth devices:

1. Select Settings.
2. Select General.
3. Select Bluetooth.
4. Wait for your phone to search for devices, then select your BlueAnt device 
from the list.
5. If you are prompted for a PIN, enter  (four zeros).
6. Select Connect.
Your BlueAnt device is now paired… hopefully ;-)


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.2 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
 telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, but 
 when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
 Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can see 
 it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
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 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 















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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Peter Crisp
G'day Chris, I have the Blueant device as well. You must put the BLUEANT into 
pairing mode first. You do this by holding the green answering button at the 
same time as turning it on. Whilst it is in pairing mode, then on your iPhone 
go to Bluetooth devices and it should permit it to pair up successfully.

Advise if further issues.

Pete.

On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton c...@it.net.au wrote:

 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
 telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, but 
 when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
 Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can see 
 it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
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 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Chris Burton
Hi Ronni  Peter

Merry Christmas, and thanks very much for your advice on this. The very sparse 
(1 page) manual which came with the device has no mention of what you suggest!

I will give it a go tomorrow and let you know what happens!

Another frustrating thing I have with using the iPhone, is how to turn off the 
'pre-empting of words' while writing a message to send. I have looked through 
Settings and cant find where (and if) I can turn it off?

Thanks heaps for your very timely help

Chris


Christopher L.K. Burton
Director
Western Whale Research
PO Box 1076
Dunsborough WA 6281
Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 30/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Chris,
 
 As you have paired the BlueAnt Supertooth 3 before with your TelstraT90, you 
 must delete all info on the BlueAnt ST3 before trying to Pair it with your 
 new iPhone 4S.
 If you have not done this, delete all info before following the instructions 
 below:
 
 1. Make sure the Supertooth 3 is turned off.
 You can tell if the Supertooth 3 is on or off by looking at the light on the 
 front. If the light is on or flashing, then the Supertooth 3 is on: turn it 
 off by holding down the Multi-Function button (the green button) for about 5 
 seconds, until you hear the voice announce that the Supertooth 3 is powering 
 down.
 
 2. With the Supertooth 3 off, hold down the Multi-Function button for about 6 
 seconds, until the light on the front of the unit starts flashing red and 
 blue.
 
 3. The Supertooth 3 will now prompt you to select your language: press the 
 Multi-Function button when you hear your language spoken.
 
 4. The Supertooth 3 is now in pairing mode.
 You now need to activate Bluetooth on your phone, and use your phone's 
 Bluetooth menu to search for devices.
 
 Now you need to use your iPhone to search for Bluetooth devices:
 
 1. Select Settings.
 2. Select General.
 3. Select Bluetooth.
 4. Wait for your phone to search for devices, then select your BlueAnt device 
 from the list.
 5. If you are prompted for a PIN, enter  (four zeros).
 6. Select Connect.
 Your BlueAnt device is now paired… hopefully ;-)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.2 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
 telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, but 
 when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
 Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can see 
 it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Ronda Brown

On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 Hi Ronni  Peter
 
 Merry Christmas, and thanks very much for your advice on this. The very 
 sparse (1 page) manual which came with the device has no mention of what you 
 suggest!
 
 I will give it a go tomorrow and let you know what happens!
 
 Another frustrating thing I have with using the iPhone, is how to turn off 
 the 'pre-empting of words' while writing a message to send. I have looked 
 through Settings and cant find where (and if) I can turn it off?

Settings  General  Auto-Correction turn it to OFF.
 
 Thanks heaps for your very timely help
 
 Chris
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 As you have paired the BlueAnt Supertooth 3 before with your TelstraT90, you 
 must delete all info on the BlueAnt ST3 before trying to Pair it with your 
 new iPhone 4S.
 If you have not done this, delete all info before following the instructions 
 below:
 
 1. Make sure the Supertooth 3 is turned off.
 You can tell if the Supertooth 3 is on or off by looking at the light on the 
 front. If the light is on or flashing, then the Supertooth 3 is on: turn it 
 off by holding down the Multi-Function button (the green button) for about 5 
 seconds, until you hear the voice announce that the Supertooth 3 is powering 
 down.
 
 2. With the Supertooth 3 off, hold down the Multi-Function button for about 
 6 seconds, until the light on the front of the unit starts flashing red and 
 blue.
 
 3. The Supertooth 3 will now prompt you to select your language: press the 
 Multi-Function button when you hear your language spoken.
 
 4. The Supertooth 3 is now in pairing mode.
 You now need to activate Bluetooth on your phone, and use your phone's 
 Bluetooth menu to search for devices.
 
 Now you need to use your iPhone to search for Bluetooth devices:
 
 1. Select Settings.
 2. Select General.
 3. Select Bluetooth.
 4. Wait for your phone to search for devices, then select your BlueAnt 
 device from the list.
 5. If you are prompted for a PIN, enter  (four zeros).
 6. Select Connect.
 Your BlueAnt device is now paired… hopefully ;-)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.2 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
 telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, but 
 when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
 Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can see 
 it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Ronda Brown
Sorry Chris left out one move ;-)
Time I stopped and had a glass of wine.

Settings  General  KEYBOARD  Auto-Correction … turn it OFF

On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni  Peter
 
 Merry Christmas, and thanks very much for your advice on this. The very 
 sparse (1 page) manual which came with the device has no mention of what you 
 suggest!
 
 I will give it a go tomorrow and let you know what happens!
 
 Another frustrating thing I have with using the iPhone, is how to turn off 
 the 'pre-empting of words' while writing a message to send. I have looked 
 through Settings and cant find where (and if) I can turn it off?
 
 Settings  General  Auto-Correction turn it to OFF.
 
 Thanks heaps for your very timely help
 
 Chris
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 As you have paired the BlueAnt Supertooth 3 before with your TelstraT90, 
 you must delete all info on the BlueAnt ST3 before trying to Pair it with 
 your new iPhone 4S.
 If you have not done this, delete all info before following the 
 instructions below:
 
 1. Make sure the Supertooth 3 is turned off.
 You can tell if the Supertooth 3 is on or off by looking at the light on 
 the front. If the light is on or flashing, then the Supertooth 3 is on: 
 turn it off by holding down the Multi-Function button (the green button) 
 for about 5 seconds, until you hear the voice announce that the Supertooth 
 3 is powering down.
 
 2. With the Supertooth 3 off, hold down the Multi-Function button for about 
 6 seconds, until the light on the front of the unit starts flashing red and 
 blue.
 
 3. The Supertooth 3 will now prompt you to select your language: press the 
 Multi-Function button when you hear your language spoken.
 
 4. The Supertooth 3 is now in pairing mode.
 You now need to activate Bluetooth on your phone, and use your phone's 
 Bluetooth menu to search for devices.
 
 Now you need to use your iPhone to search for Bluetooth devices:
 
 1. Select Settings.
 2. Select General.
 3. Select Bluetooth.
 4. Wait for your phone to search for devices, then select your BlueAnt 
 device from the list.
 5. If you are prompted for a PIN, enter  (four zeros).
 6. Select Connect.
 Your BlueAnt device is now paired… hopefully ;-)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.2 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
 telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, 
 but when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
 Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can 
 see it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
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 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Peter Crisp
No problem Chris. Just opened a nice '96 Cab Sauv. Anyway, I think the pre 
emotive is extremely good having never gotten used to it in previous Blackberry 
and Nokias I think it's great on the iPhone. 

But as its a personal thing, for you if off is better, then you'll be a happy 
user.

Bye for now.

Pete.



On 30/12/2011, at 5:23 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Sorry Chris left out one move ;-)
 Time I stopped and had a glass of wine.
 
 Settings  General  KEYBOARD  Auto-Correction … turn it OFF
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni  Peter
 
 Merry Christmas, and thanks very much for your advice on this. The very 
 sparse (1 page) manual which came with the device has no mention of what 
 you suggest!
 
 I will give it a go tomorrow and let you know what happens!
 
 Another frustrating thing I have with using the iPhone, is how to turn off 
 the 'pre-empting of words' while writing a message to send. I have looked 
 through Settings and cant find where (and if) I can turn it off?
 
 Settings  General  Auto-Correction turn it to OFF.
 
 Thanks heaps for your very timely help
 
 Chris
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 As you have paired the BlueAnt Supertooth 3 before with your TelstraT90, 
 you must delete all info on the BlueAnt ST3 before trying to Pair it with 
 your new iPhone 4S.
 If you have not done this, delete all info before following the 
 instructions below:
 
 1. Make sure the Supertooth 3 is turned off.
 You can tell if the Supertooth 3 is on or off by looking at the light on 
 the front. If the light is on or flashing, then the Supertooth 3 is on: 
 turn it off by holding down the Multi-Function button (the green button) 
 for about 5 seconds, until you hear the voice announce that the Supertooth 
 3 is powering down.
 
 2. With the Supertooth 3 off, hold down the Multi-Function button for 
 about 6 seconds, until the light on the front of the unit starts flashing 
 red and blue.
 
 3. The Supertooth 3 will now prompt you to select your language: press the 
 Multi-Function button when you hear your language spoken.
 
 4. The Supertooth 3 is now in pairing mode.
 You now need to activate Bluetooth on your phone, and use your phone's 
 Bluetooth menu to search for devices.
 
 Now you need to use your iPhone to search for Bluetooth devices:
 
 1. Select Settings.
 2. Select General.
 3. Select Bluetooth.
 4. Wait for your phone to search for devices, then select your BlueAnt 
 device from the list.
 5. If you are prompted for a PIN, enter  (four zeros).
 6. Select Connect.
 Your BlueAnt device is now paired… hopefully ;-)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.2 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
 telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, 
 but when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
 Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can 
 see it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-30 Thread Chris Burton
Hi Pete and Ronni

Just did the pairing of my iPhone 4s and BlueAnt Handsfree: what an absolutely 
brilliant and easy setupand,

I didnt know I had over 350 contacts on my phone!!!...Please wait, there is 
more!!!

I just love this fabulous technology when I know how it works!!

Wishing everyone a terrific New Year with mountains of thanks to all, 
especially Ronnie who has  saved my bacon on so many occasions.

Only 5 hours before beer time with the odd red thrown in!

Chris

Go Mac

Christopher L.K. Burton
Director
Western Whale Research
PO Box 1076
Dunsborough WA 6281
Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 30/12/2011, at 5:34 PM, Peter Crisp wrote:

 No problem Chris. Just opened a nice '96 Cab Sauv. Anyway, I think the pre 
 emotive is extremely good having never gotten used to it in previous 
 Blackberry and Nokias I think it's great on the iPhone. 
 
 But as its a personal thing, for you if off is better, then you'll be a happy 
 user.
 
 Bye for now.
 
 Pete.
 
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 5:23 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Sorry Chris left out one move ;-)
 Time I stopped and had a glass of wine.
 
 Settings  General  KEYBOARD  Auto-Correction … turn it OFF
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 5:21 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni  Peter
 
 Merry Christmas, and thanks very much for your advice on this. The very 
 sparse (1 page) manual which came with the device has no mention of what 
 you suggest!
 
 I will give it a go tomorrow and let you know what happens!
 
 Another frustrating thing I have with using the iPhone, is how to turn off 
 the 'pre-empting of words' while writing a message to send. I have looked 
 through Settings and cant find where (and if) I can turn it off?
 
 Settings  General  Auto-Correction turn it to OFF.
 
 Thanks heaps for your very timely help
 
 Chris
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 As you have paired the BlueAnt Supertooth 3 before with your TelstraT90, 
 you must delete all info on the BlueAnt ST3 before trying to Pair it with 
 your new iPhone 4S.
 If you have not done this, delete all info before following the 
 instructions below:
 
 1. Make sure the Supertooth 3 is turned off.
 You can tell if the Supertooth 3 is on or off by looking at the light on 
 the front. If the light is on or flashing, then the Supertooth 3 is on: 
 turn it off by holding down the Multi-Function button (the green button) 
 for about 5 seconds, until you hear the voice announce that the 
 Supertooth 3 is powering down.
 
 2. With the Supertooth 3 off, hold down the Multi-Function button for 
 about 6 seconds, until the light on the front of the unit starts flashing 
 red and blue.
 
 3. The Supertooth 3 will now prompt you to select your language: press 
 the Multi-Function button when you hear your language spoken.
 
 4. The Supertooth 3 is now in pairing mode.
 You now need to activate Bluetooth on your phone, and use your phone's 
 Bluetooth menu to search for devices.
 
 Now you need to use your iPhone to search for Bluetooth devices:
 
 1. Select Settings.
 2. Select General.
 3. Select Bluetooth.
 4. Wait for your phone to search for devices, then select your BlueAnt 
 device from the list.
 5. If you are prompted for a PIN, enter  (four zeros).
 6. Select Connect.
 Your BlueAnt device is now paired… hopefully ;-)
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.2 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 On 30/12/2011, at 3:44 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 Afternoon all
 
 I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
 Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my 
 previous telstra T90).
 
 I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, 
 but when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?
 
 Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone 
 or Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device 
 can see it, but I have not seen a request to do this?
 
 Thanks for any help
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 Christopher L.K. Burton
 Director
 Western Whale Research
 PO Box 1076
 Dunsborough WA 6281
 Mobile: 0419 199 120
 Email: c...@it.net.au 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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iphone 4s bluetooth

2011-12-29 Thread Chris Burton
Afternoon all

I dont seem to be able to get my new iphone 4s to pair with my Blueant 
Supertooth 3 hands free set (which worked well in my car with my previous 
telstra T90).

I have turned the iPhone Bluetooth on, and it shows the BlueAnt device, but 
when I click on it, it shows a msg saying unable to Pair?

Can anyone advise if I have missed something here, either on the phone or 
Blueant? I usually have to enter a numeric code so the other device can see it, 
but I have not seen a request to do this?

Thanks for any help

Chris



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iPhone 4S, Bluetooth Siri

2011-11-08 Thread Alex
Hello Friends

my wife set up bluetooth in her car for her new iPhone 4S but now Siri  
does not work.  Have there been any issues in regards to this area?

Cheers,  and thanks in advance,

Alex
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Re: iPhone 4S, Bluetooth Siri

2011-11-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alex,

What car is it? Some cars Bluetooth systems don't work well with SIRI.
Your experience will vary greatly depending on the exact Bluetooth hardware 
being used.
 Vehicles may vary in the experience because they use multiple suppliers, each 
of whom may implement the specification differently. 

You need to press and hold the home button, which launches Siri. 
It takes about 2-3 seconds for the bluetooth to activate and bring sound from 
the phone over the speakers. 

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 09/11/2011, at 12:19 AM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hello Friends
 
 my wife set up bluetooth in her car for her new iPhone 4S but now Siri  
 does not work.  Have there been any issues in regards to this area?
 
 Cheers,  and thanks in advance,
 
 Alex
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Bluetooth Blues

2011-02-10 Thread localadmin



Hi everybody

Bluetooth troubles

3G IPhone

and MacBook 15

10.6.6


They are recognising each other

Come up as pared but will not connect

The phone goes searching  (Now Discoverable) but does not find it


Have tried setting them up from scratch again 

The computer finds it and codes go back and forth 

The computer says pared successfully

Computer port created

use as a personal area netork

meanwhile the phone keeps searching and says Not Connected??

if you then press the across arrow it says forget this device??

Any clues as to what is not switched on??


Many thanks
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Re: Bluetooth Blues

2011-02-10 Thread Ronda Brown

Hello Gerald  Valerie,

Welcome to WAMUG Mailing list, as I don’t remember you posting before.

Are you trying to transfer files via Bluetooth connection?

If so, you cannot. 

iPhone can connect wirelessly to Bluetooth devices such as headsets, 
headphones, and car kits for music listening and hands-free talking. 
Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets, 
peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3621

Peer to peer is not tethering. 
Are you trying to use “Tethering”?
If so:
Bluetooth tethering obviously requires enabling Bluetooth on both your iPhone 
and computer, and then selecting Connect to Network from the Bluetooth 
drop-down menu. 
The rest of the setup is automatic ….

Post back if this does not answer your query correctly.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



On 11/02/2011, at 9:45 AM, localadmin wrote:

 
 
 
 Hi everybody
 
 Bluetooth troubles
 
 3G IPhone
 
 and MacBook 15
 
 10.6.6
 
 
 They are recognising each other
 
 Come up as pared but will not connect
 
 The phone goes searching  (Now Discoverable) but does not find it
 
 
 Have tried setting them up from scratch again 
 
 The computer finds it and codes go back and forth 
 
 The computer says pared successfully
 
 Computer port created
 
 use as a personal area netork
 
 meanwhile the phone keeps searching and says Not Connected??
 
 if you then press the across arrow it says forget this device??
 
 Any clues as to what is not switched on??
 
 
 Many thanks
 Gerald  Valerie LLOYD
 lloy...@iinet.net.au
 










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Re: Bluetooth Blues

2011-02-10 Thread localadmin

Hi Rhonda

Have been working for a while but watching in the background

Tried the network thing

an received this message

The Bluetooth network is unavailable.

There was a problem connecting to your device.
Make sure the device is on, in range, paired correctly and services such as 
Bluetooth tethering are set up properly.


Still pared but no contact


Thanks


Gerald

On 11/02/2011, at 11:36 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 Hello Gerald  Valerie,
 
 Welcome to WAMUG Mailing list, as I don’t remember you posting before.
 
 Are you trying to transfer files via Bluetooth connection?
 
 If so, you cannot. 
 
 iPhone can connect wirelessly to Bluetooth devices such as headsets, 
 headphones, and car kits for music listening and hands-free talking. 
 Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets, 
 peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3621
 
 Peer to peer is not tethering. 
 Are you trying to use “Tethering”?
 If so:
 Bluetooth tethering obviously requires enabling Bluetooth on both your iPhone 
 and computer, and then selecting Connect to Network from the Bluetooth 
 drop-down menu. 
 The rest of the setup is automatic ….
 
 Post back if this does not answer your query correctly.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
 
 OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 On 11/02/2011, at 9:45 AM, localadmin wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Hi everybody
 
 Bluetooth troubles
 
 3G IPhone
 
 and MacBook 15
 
 10.6.6
 
 
 They are recognising each other
 
 Come up as pared but will not connect
 
 The phone goes searching  (Now Discoverable) but does not find it
 
 
 Have tried setting them up from scratch again 
 
 The computer finds it and codes go back and forth 
 
 The computer says pared successfully
 
 Computer port created
 
 use as a personal area netork
 
 meanwhile the phone keeps searching and says Not Connected??
 
 if you then press the across arrow it says forget this device??
 
 Any clues as to what is not switched on??
 
 
 Many thanks
 Gerald  Valerie LLOYD
 lloy...@iinet.net.au
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Bluetooth Blues

2011-02-10 Thread Ronda Brown

On your iPhone do you have “Internet Tethering” ON?
 in Settings: General  Network  Internet Tethering …ON

Cheers,
Ronni

On 11/02/2011, at 1:03 PM, localadmin wrote:

 
 Hi Rhonda
 
 Have been working for a while but watching in the background
 
 Tried the network thing
 
 an received this message
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable.
 
 There was a problem connecting to your device.
 Make sure the device is on, in range, paired correctly and services such as 
 Bluetooth tethering are set up properly.
 
 
 Still pared but no contact
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 Gerald
 
 On 11/02/2011, at 11:36 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 
 Hello Gerald  Valerie,
 
 Welcome to WAMUG Mailing list, as I don’t remember you posting before.
 
 Are you trying to transfer files via Bluetooth connection?
 
 If so, you cannot. 
 
 iPhone can connect wirelessly to Bluetooth devices such as headsets, 
 headphones, and car kits for music listening and hands-free talking. 
 Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets, 
 peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3621
 
 Peer to peer is not tethering. 
 Are you trying to use “Tethering”?
 If so:
 Bluetooth tethering obviously requires enabling Bluetooth on both your 
 iPhone and computer, and then selecting Connect to Network from the 
 Bluetooth drop-down menu. 
 The rest of the setup is automatic ….
 
 Post back if this does not answer your query correctly.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
 
 OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 On 11/02/2011, at 9:45 AM, localadmin wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Hi everybody
 
 Bluetooth troubles
 
 3G IPhone
 
 and MacBook 15
 
 10.6.6
 
 
 They are recognising each other
 
 Come up as pared but will not connect
 
 The phone goes searching  (Now Discoverable) but does not find it
 
 
 Have tried setting them up from scratch again 
 
 The computer finds it and codes go back and forth 
 
 The computer says pared successfully
 
 Computer port created
 
 use as a personal area netork
 
 meanwhile the phone keeps searching and says Not Connected??
 
 if you then press the across arrow it says forget this device??
 
 Any clues as to what is not switched on??
 
 
 Many thanks
 Gerald  Valerie LLOYD
 lloy...@iinet.net.au
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Sending FAX via iPhone over bluetooth

2010-12-06 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 06/12/2010, at 1:57 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:

 
 I would like to send a fax and have paired my iphone with my Mac. However 
 every time I send a fax, it first waits with Waiting for modem to become 
 available and then after 10 minutes changes to complete. However the fax is 
 never sent or received. I have tested this my putting in my home phone number 
 and it never even rang. 
 
 Any suggestions on how I can send a fax using 10.6.5 with iPhone 4.2.1 on 
 Telstra.
 
 Kind regards
 Alex
 
 


What you are trying to do is not possible without third party software 
installed on your iPhone

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2181053
http://forums.techarena.in/portable-devices/1114536.htm

One example of using a third part app can be found here

http://www.ehow.com/how_5938590_fax-using-iphone.html


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Sending FAX via iPhone over bluetooth

2010-12-05 Thread Alexander Hartner

I would like to send a fax and have paired my iphone with my Mac. However every 
time I send a fax, it first waits with Waiting for modem to become available 
and then after 10 minutes changes to complete. However the fax is never sent or 
received. I have tested this my putting in my home phone number and it never 
even rang. 

Any suggestions on how I can send a fax using 10.6.5 with iPhone 4.2.1 on 
Telstra.

Kind regards
Alex


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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-10-03 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 01/10/2010, at 1:18 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Hi Eugene, Ronni, Peter,
 
 
 I would definitely concur with you that one of the reasons that I love Apple
 products, is for the generally safe and friendly user experience - however
 we still need to apply our own security levels as we see fit:
 
 I mean, all our computers would be much more secure if we kept wireless and
 bluetooth turned off, but
 

I guess the single important difference between the iPhone and other mobile 
phone bluetooth environments is that the option to Browse Device... is not 
available under the Mac OS X Bluetooth options, thereby denying access to the 
iPhone's internal directory structure. Presumably, any third party solution 
will allow access to ITS particular file structure, but not the rest of the 
iPhone, so while you can transfer data using these third party solutions, the 
iPhone remains protected. In a similar way, a properly configured Wi-Fi or 
bluetooth connection to your computer will not allow access to critical system 
folders, for that matter, the folders within the various user accounts. Only 
those folders which you choose to be shareable are accessible. Of course, if 
you do choose to override the default security settings in these areas, then 
you take the responsibility. You will also find third party solutions which 
allow you to do this on your iPhone, but you use them at your own risk.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-30 Thread Rob Davies
Neil,
iTunes.
It is just a USB device, so any program that does this as sent before DiskAid 
which links into FileApp on phone.

Check in File Manager it will be a device so all should be accessible, there is 
a image capture  program loaded within 7 and VIsta that will show.

If you search Apps store I am sure someone would have found cure, for 
Bluetooth. Try Google also!

But, Apple do not want Bluetooth access except for devices, reasoning anyones 
guess but security would be a good one. 

Bluetooth is a huge network security risk because of its portability and 
devices, inclusive of what can be transferred and run without physical 
connection from server or a portal.
Mobile phone sitting on someones desk could be piggybacking into network 
running applications or daemons controlling network or removing data. Acting as 
a portal to somewhere else out of building. Hence no phones within Data 
Centres, even though they block mobile transmissions.

Cheers!
`RobD...

On 30Sep2010, at 10:24 am, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Rob,
 
 Thanks for the info.
 
 Yes, I have no problem when connected by cable – and to my own computer where 
 I have plenty of suitable software.
 
 
 I’m just disappointed that if I were, say, at a friends house (iPhone in 
 pocket) and during a conversation:
 
 “I took some photos – would you like a copy” - can’t be done by simple 
 bluetooth transfer – when my partners ancient 2G Nokia can...
 
 Cue her comment “but I thought your iPhone could do everything!” and then the 
 snigger   ;o(
 
 Also, even with a cable, I’m not sure what software would be required on, 
 say, a non-iTunes windows machine to let it see the photos on the iPhone.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
 
 on 30/9/10 3:11 AM, Rob Davies at rjda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Morning,
 
 As mentioned Bluetooth support within iPhone is for devices only, as per 
 most things Apple.
 
 USB connection and GraphicConverter will do same as Bluetooth except with 
 cable connected?
 
 Another App called FileApp will allow a little more flexibility, but 
 requires DiskAid on desktop, fees apply. 
 Alternatives available??? 
 I bought as bundle with TuneAid best app for sorting iTunes and iPod 
 devices: license extends to a Windows install and many machines.
 
 Just carry spare USB cable in Laptop case.
 
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD
 
 
 
 On 29Sep2010, at 9:27 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly 
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by 
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the 
 hotel bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having 
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any 
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or 
 Graphic Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image 
 Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with 
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 Paired: Yes
 Configured: Yes
 Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the 
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on, 
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth 
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly – but I was 
 under the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to 
 connect the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection? 
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect, 
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option 
 it gave me was to “forget Device” - which it did - the iMac no longer 
 showed up – just the “searching” wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and 
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as 
 “connected” however, image capture couldn’t see the iPhone and, after a 
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly 
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device’s connection. Make sure the device is 
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I’m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off 
 on the iPhone (since I

Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-30 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Rob, 

Thanks for that info.

Yes, after Peter¹s suggestion I am looking at iFiles ­ it looks to handle
Bluetooth and Wireless file transfer ­ and much more besides ­ I may have to
put my money down...


Cheers


Neil
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Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com






on 30/9/10 6:26 PM, Rob Davies at rjda...@gmail.com wrote:

 Neil,
 iTunes.
 It is just a USB device, so any program that does this as sent before DiskAid
 which links into FileApp on phone.
 
 Check in File Manager it will be a device so all should be accessible, there
 is a image capture  program loaded within 7 and VIsta that will show.
 
 If you search Apps store I am sure someone would have found cure, for
 Bluetooth. Try Google also!
 
 But, Apple do not want Bluetooth access except for devices, reasoning anyones
 guess but security would be a good one.
 
 Bluetooth is a huge network security risk because of its portability and
 devices, inclusive of what can be transferred and run without physical
 connection from server or a portal.
 Mobile phone sitting on someones desk could be piggybacking into network
 running applications or daemons controlling network or removing data. Acting
 as a portal to somewhere else out of building. Hence no phones within Data
 Centres, even though they block mobile transmissions.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD...
 
 On 30Sep2010, at 10:24 am, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Rob,
 
 Thanks for the info.
 
 Yes, I have no problem when connected by cable ­ and to my own computer where
 I have plenty of suitable software.
 
 
 I¹m just disappointed that if I were, say, at a friends house (iPhone in
 pocket) and during a conversation:
 
 ³I took some photos ­ would you like a copy² - can¹t be done by simple
 bluetooth transfer ­ when my partners ancient 2G Nokia can...
 
 Cue her comment ³but I thought your iPhone could do everything!² and then the
 snigger   ;o(
 
 Also, even with a cable, I¹m not sure what software would be required on,
 say, a non-iTunes windows machine to let it see the photos on the iPhone.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil






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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-30 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 30/09/2010, at 6:26 PM, Rob Davies wrote:

 Neil,
 iTunes.
 It is just a USB device, so any program that does this as sent before DiskAid 
 which links into FileApp on phone.
 
 Check in File Manager it will be a device so all should be accessible, there 
 is a image capture  program loaded within 7 and VIsta that will show.
 
 If you search Apps store I am sure someone would have found cure, for 
 Bluetooth. Try Google also!
 
 But, Apple do not want Bluetooth access except for devices, reasoning anyones 
 guess but security would be a good one. 
 
 Bluetooth is a huge network security risk because of its portability and 
 devices, inclusive of what can be transferred and run without physical 
 connection from server or a portal.
 Mobile phone sitting on someones desk could be piggybacking into network 
 running applications or daemons controlling network or removing data. Acting 
 as a portal to somewhere else out of building. Hence no phones within Data 
 Centres, even though they block mobile transmissions.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD...
 

I well remember hearing a story some years ago when Bluetooth was in its 
infancy on computers and mobile phones, where students were able to connect 
though BT to a certain university lecturer's laptop which had been left running 
on the desk in his office, thereby downloading copies of upcoming exam 
questions. I doubt that much has changed in this regard, especially given many 
peoples' attitude to security.


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-30 Thread Ronda Brown


On 01/10/2010, at 8:03 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 
 On 30/09/2010, at 6:26 PM, Rob Davies wrote:
 
 Neil,
 iTunes.
 It is just a USB device, so any program that does this as sent before 
 DiskAid which links into FileApp on phone.
 
 Check in File Manager it will be a device so all should be accessible, there 
 is a image capture  program loaded within 7 and VIsta that will show.
 
 If you search Apps store I am sure someone would have found cure, for 
 Bluetooth. Try Google also!
 
 But, Apple do not want Bluetooth access except for devices, reasoning 
 anyones guess but security would be a good one. 
 
 Bluetooth is a huge network security risk because of its portability and 
 devices, inclusive of what can be transferred and run without physical 
 connection from server or a portal.
 Mobile phone sitting on someones desk could be piggybacking into network 
 running applications or daemons controlling network or removing data. Acting 
 as a portal to somewhere else out of building. Hence no phones within Data 
 Centres, even though they block mobile transmissions.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD...
 
 
 I well remember hearing a story some years ago when Bluetooth was in its 
 infancy on computers and mobile phones, where students were able to connect 
 though BT to a certain university lecturer's laptop which had been left 
 running on the desk in his office, thereby downloading copies of upcoming 
 exam questions. I doubt that much has changed in this regard, especially 
 given many peoples' attitude to security.
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.


Thanks Peter for supporting me in this Security Issue with using Bluetooth. 
Your story above is certainly not the only time this has happened.
Apple are determined to keep the iPhone as secure as they possibly can.
You cannot secure Bluetooth when it is  Always visible and connectable! Your 
Phone is then open to any onslaught, it is then a huge security risk.

People go to all lengths to secure their Networks and Macs, and yet are wanting 
to have the iPhone Insecure … beats me, I certainly want my iPhone as secure 
as it can be.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)







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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-30 Thread Eugene
I support you Ronni and Peer,

blue tooth was introduced to allow computers to communicate wirelessly with 
devices such as keyboards, mice and printers, it was never originally intended 
to move files. It's speed reflects this.

Apple is like a very protective parent. They will over engineer their products 
to ensure that their children have  safe user's experience. All applications on 
iTunes are vetted first and must conform to a standard. Apple can remotely 
disable rogue applications. Syncing and updating is done via the iTunes and the 
computer. Some people don't like this almost heavy handed approach. However 
Google and Microsoft are copying these same strategies with Android and WM 7.0

Apple is now a big target, if something goes wrong they are automatically at 
fault. Antenna attenuation was exposed on a number of smartphones but only 
Apple coped the flack. Exploding mobile batteries were quite common but once 
again Apple was named when it happened twice (in the UK and France). God forbid 
if a virus was discovered on an iPhone even though these have already been 
found on Android, WM 6.0 etc.

It is possible to surreptitiously add software to many mobile phones to track 
the user, access their personal details, use their accounts, eavesdrop on their 
personal conversations etc. Apple has employed many security  measures to 
protect their clients from these attacks. The compromise that Apple leaves us 
is a mobile phone that is less accessible for casual tethering. 

The Mac was always a fairly tight and secure platform and we have always 
enjoyed a virus free user's experience whilst we looked at the 100,000s of 
security threats encountered by PC users. Do we want to open up the iPhone and 
iOS so that rogue apps have greater access?

I am happy to be embraced by Apple's security blanket. 

 Regards,
 Eugene



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On 01/10/2010, at 8:20 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 
 
 On 01/10/2010, at 8:03 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 
 On 30/09/2010, at 6:26 PM, Rob Davies wrote:
 
 Neil,
 iTunes.
 It is just a USB device, so any program that does this as sent before 
 DiskAid which links into FileApp on phone.
 
 Check in File Manager it will be a device so all should be accessible, 
 there is a image capture  program loaded within 7 and VIsta that will show.
 
 If you search Apps store I am sure someone would have found cure, for 
 Bluetooth. Try Google also!
 
 But, Apple do not want Bluetooth access except for devices, reasoning 
 anyones guess but security would be a good one. 
 
 Bluetooth is a huge network security risk because of its portability and 
 devices, inclusive of what can be transferred and run without physical 
 connection from server or a portal.
 Mobile phone sitting on someones desk could be piggybacking into network 
 running applications or daemons controlling network or removing data. 
 Acting as a portal to somewhere else out of building. Hence no phones 
 within Data Centres, even though they block mobile transmissions.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD...
 
 
 I well remember hearing a story some years ago when Bluetooth was in its 
 infancy on computers and mobile phones, where students were able to connect 
 though BT to a certain university lecturer's laptop which had been left 
 running on the desk in his office, thereby downloading copies of upcoming 
 exam questions. I doubt that much has changed in this regard, especially 
 given many peoples' attitude to security.
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
 
 Thanks Peter for supporting me in this Security Issue with using Bluetooth. 
 Your story above is certainly not the only time this has happened.
 Apple are determined to keep the iPhone as secure as they possibly can.
 You cannot secure Bluetooth when it is  Always visible and connectable! 
 Your Phone is then open to any onslaught, it is then a huge security risk.
 
 People go to all lengths to secure their Networks and Macs, and yet are 
 wanting to have the iPhone Insecure … beats me, I certainly want my iPhone 
 as secure as it can be.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
 
 OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-30 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi Eugene, Ronni, Peter,


I would definitely concur with you that one of the reasons that I love Apple
products, is for the generally safe and friendly user experience - however
we still need to apply our own security levels as we see fit:

I mean, all our computers would be much more secure if we kept wireless and
bluetooth turned off, but

If we set up an Airport network, we must choose to protect it, the
appropriate security system (eg WPA2) and an appropriately secure
password.

I require a password log-in to my computers on start-up, wake from sleep and
wake from screensaver - but, in my experience, many Mac users don't do this
and have auto-login enabled.

I don't claim to have a lot of experience with Bluetooth security - but when
I have used it in the past (and I'm going on memory here) it has been set so
as to have to approve each request to transfer info on a case by case basis
- I am either initiating the action or I have to accept someone else's
connection or file.

To be honest, I would be much more concerned about the security of my
wireless and bluetooth enabled laptop than my iPhone - though that just
reflects my personal situation regarding what I have on my phone/laptop.



However, I must admit, I'm a little confused by some of the arguments
against Bluetooth file transfer.


Having read a bit more, it is obvious that Apple haven't, in fact, prevented
Bluetooth file transfer - they have just decided not to offer an easy Apple
way to do it - which I would have thought would be the best way if you
really wanted to guide the consumer into the best practice.

Apple have, in fact, provided the means for third party apps to perform all
manner of file manipulation  transmission and have approved such apps on
their app store - and, whilst they all are subject to Apple approval,
obviously some will be much better than others in terms of
features/interface design/ease of use. So the problem for the first time
user is how to find a suitable app (short of buying lots and then discarding
the ones you don't like).

On of Apples key strengths, I feel, has been the way they include
beautifully designed software already incorporated in their devices to
enable the new user to really enjoy the whole experience - as you gain
experience you may then choose to look further for more features/options:

I might prefer Image Capture/Photoshop - but I appreciate that iPhoto
provides a very user friendly interface for many new ( not so new) Apple
users.

If I wanted to start making movies, I would be happy to look at iMovie -
more demanding users may well move to Final Cut Pro.

Having these various levels available is key to catering to users of
differing experience - everybody should be able to tweak System
Preferences - some people should probably never open up Console.

I'm happy enough now that I know there are third party apps which will do
what I want ( more) and I am very grateful to Peter for pointing me to
iFiles. Hopefully, I am sufficiently aware/cautious not to stuff-up too much
with the power unleashed by some of these apps.

However, I find the app browsing experience very frustrating in the iTunes
store -the categories are too broad and searching always brings up such a
huge selection - with no easy way to compare features short of clicking
through them one-at-a-time. I actually find Google an easier way to find
apps - but that is also very hit  miss.


I guess, given that there is obviously (well-documented gripe) a significant
demand for bluetooth file transfer (even if limited to photos) and given
that it can be achieved by a variety of third-party apps - I find it
surprising that Apple haven't come up with an Apple way to do it - ie a
simple, easy and secure implementation for less experienced users.


Anyway, that's just my 2c worth (you get a lot for 2c, eh?) - as I say, I'm
happy enough that a third party app will get the job done.



Cheers


Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 1/10/10 9:01 AM, Eugene at edeg...@helena.wa.edu.au wrote:

 I support you Ronni and Peer,
 
 blue tooth was introduced to allow computers to communicate wirelessly with
 devices such as keyboards, mice and printers, it was never originally intended
 to move files. It's speed reflects this.
 
 Apple is like a very protective parent. They will over engineer their products
 to ensure that their children have  safe user's experience. All applications
 on iTunes are vetted first and must conform to a standard. Apple can remotely
 disable rogue applications. Syncing and updating is done via the iTunes and
 the computer. Some people don't like this almost heavy handed approach.
 However Google and Microsoft are copying these same strategies with Android
 and WM 7.0
 
 Apple is now a big target, if something goes wrong they are automatically at
 fault. Antenna attenuation was exposed on a number of smartphones but only
 Apple coped the flack

How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton
On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly
transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by
bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel
bar.

I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having
problems:

Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any
other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or
Graphic Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.

So far, I've successfully achieved the following:

* Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image
Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.

* Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone
with my Imac.

If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
* Paired: Yes 
* Configured: Yes 
* Connected: No

Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.

If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the
only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:

 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on, in
 range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth tethering
 are set up properly.

Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly ­ but I was
under the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to
connect the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection?

If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect,
it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option
it gave me was to ³forget Device² - which it did - the iMac no longer showed
up ­ just the ³searching² wheel.

Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and
re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as
³connected² however, image capture couldn¹t see the iPhone and, after a
minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly
different error message:


 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device¹s connection. Make sure the device is
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.

I¹m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off
on the iPhone (since I don¹t actually want to conect to the internet through
the iPhone).

I¹m probably missing something really obvious here ­ something that was so
easy on an ancient nokia shouldn¹t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!


Cheers


Neil
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Ronda Brown
 File transfer via bluetooth is NOT supported.

You can connect to telephone headsets/handsfree devices, stereo 
headphones/speakers, a computer for tethering purposes and some peer-to-peer 
apps from the app store.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647 

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 29/09/2010, at 9:27 PM, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:

 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly 
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by 
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel 
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having 
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any 
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or Graphic 
 Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image Capture 
 lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with 
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 Paired: Yes
 Configured: Yes
 Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the 
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on, in 
 range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth 
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly – but I was under 
 the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to connect 
 the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection? 
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect, 
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option 
 it gave me was to “forget Device” - which it did - the iMac no longer showed 
 up – just the “searching” wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and 
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as 
 “connected” however, image capture couldn’t see the iPhone and, after a 
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly 
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device’s connection. Make sure the device is 
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I’m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off 
 on the iPhone (since I don’t actually want to conect to the internet through 
 the iPhone).
 
 I’m probably missing something really obvious here – something that was so 
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn’t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 --
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Eugene
Hi Neil,when Apple introduced the iPhone, one of their forms of protecting us from unwarranted viral attacks from others was to limit bluetooth to sound only via bluetooth earpieces and handsfree devices only later allowing higher quality stereo audio as well. File transfers were not allowed and all photos/files/documents were only allowed to transfer over a USB cable. Nothing has changed.Is this a good thing or a bad thing? The debate continues.
   Regards,  Eugene   

On 29/09/2010, at 9:27 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel bar.

I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having problems:

Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or Graphic Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.

So far, I've successfully achieved the following:

Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.

Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with my Imac.

If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
Paired: Yes
Configured: Yes
Connected: No

Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.

If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the only option is "Connect to Network" and, if I try that, I get the message:

The Bluetooth network is unavailable
There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on, in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth tethering are set up properly.

Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly – but I was under the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to connect the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection? 

If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect, it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option it gave me was to “forget Device” - which it did - the iMac no longer showed up – just the “searching” wheel.

Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as “connected” however, image capture couldn’t see the iPhone and, after a minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly different error message:


The Bluetooth network is unavailable
There was a problem with the device’s connection. Make sure the device is turned on, in range, and set up properly.

I’m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off on the iPhone (since I don’t actually want to conect to the internet through the iPhone).

I’m probably missing something really obvious here – something that was so easy on an ancient nokia shouldn’t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!


Cheers


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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Ronni,

Thanks very much for that info.

I must admit, I¹m extremely unimpressed with Apple¹s approach here. One of
the great things we found on our holiday was the ability to easily transfer
photos ­ not only to our own computer, but also to friends/people we met.
Now it appears that it is beyond the capabilities of my new iPhone ­ I have
to have a cable in my pocket ­ and, even if I do, I¹m not sure how that
would work with, say, a windows laptop (without iTunes installed?).

I didn¹t really follow the article you linked to ­ I wasn¹t sure what all
the different Bluetooth profiles actually meant (though some were fairly
obvious) - but the iphone4 gets a tick in EVERY box - sort ­of implying it
can do everything ­ presumably there is some other Bluetooth profile listing
to describe transferring photos ­and that would not be ticked (if it was
even listed).

Sorry to rant on, especially since you have been so kind as to explain my
problem ­ I guess I¹m a little disappointed to find my long-awaited iPhone
is not as wonderful as I was expecting :o(


Anyway, it¹s long past my bedtime ­ time to send Mr Crabby to bed ­ I really
am sorry about that, Ronni ;o)


Cheers



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on 29/9/10 9:53 PM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

  File transfer via bluetooth is NOT supported.
 
 You can connect to telephone headsets/handsfree devices, stereo
 headphones/speakers, a computer for tethering purposes and some peer-to-peer
 apps from the app store.
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 29/09/2010, at 9:27 PM, Neil Houghton n...@possumology.com wrote:
 
 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or Graphic
 Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 * Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image
 Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 * Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 * Paired: Yes 
 * Configured: Yes
 * Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on,
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly ­ but I was under
 the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to connect
 the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection?
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect,
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option
 it gave me was to ³forget Device² - which it did - the iMac no longer showed
 up ­ just the ³searching² wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as
 ³connected² however, image capture couldn¹t see the iPhone and, after a
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device¹s connection. Make sure the device is
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I¹m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off
 on the iPhone (since I don¹t actually want to conect to the internet through
 the iPhone).
 
 I¹m probably missing something really obvious here ­ something that was so
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn¹t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 --
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com mailto:n...@possumology.com
 
 




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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton

on 29/9/10 9:57 PM, Eugene at edeg...@helena.wa.edu.au wrote:

 Hi Neil,
 
 when Apple introduced the iPhone, one of their forms of protecting us from
 unwarranted viral attacks from others was to limit bluetooth to sound only via
 bluetooth earpieces and handsfree devices only later allowing higher quality
 stereo audio as well. File transfers were not allowed and all
 photos/files/documents were only allowed to transfer over a USB cable. Nothing
 has changed.
 
 Is this a good thing or a bad thing? The debate continues.
 
 
 
 
Definitely a BAD thing in my book ­ you already have security settings to
allow you to only approve the bluetooth connections you want on a
case-by-case basis.

Thanks for the info, Eugene.


Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

 
 
 
 
   Regards,
 
   Eugene
  
 
 On 29/09/2010, at 9:27 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or Graphic
 Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 * Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image
 Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 * Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 * Paired: Yes 
 * Configured: Yes
 * Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on,
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly ­ but I was under
 the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to connect
 the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection?
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect,
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option
 it gave me was to ³forget Device² - which it did - the iMac no longer showed
 up ­ just the ³searching² wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as
 ³connected² however, image capture couldn¹t see the iPhone and, after a
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device¹s connection. Make sure the device is
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I¹m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off
 on the iPhone (since I don¹t actually want to conect to the internet through
 the iPhone).
 
 I¹m probably missing something really obvious here ­ something that was so
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn¹t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 --
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 




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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Rob Davies
Morning,

As mentioned Bluetooth support within iPhone is for devices only, as per most 
things Apple.

USB connection and GraphicConverter will do same as Bluetooth except with cable 
connected?

Another App called FileApp will allow a little more flexibility, but requires 
DiskAid on desktop, fees apply. 
Alternatives available??? 
I bought as bundle with TuneAid best app for sorting iTunes and iPod devices: 
license extends to a Windows install and many machines.

Just carry spare USB cable in Laptop case.


Cheers!
`RobD



On 29Sep2010, at 9:27 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:

 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly 
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by 
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel 
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having 
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any 
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or Graphic 
 Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image Capture 
 lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with 
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 Paired: Yes
 Configured: Yes
 Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the 
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on, 
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth 
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly – but I was under 
 the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to connect 
 the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection? 
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect, 
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option 
 it gave me was to “forget Device” - which it did - the iMac no longer showed 
 up – just the “searching” wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and 
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as 
 “connected” however, image capture couldn’t see the iPhone and, after a 
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly 
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device’s connection. Make sure the device is 
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I’m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off 
 on the iPhone (since I don’t actually want to conect to the internet through 
 the iPhone).
 
 I’m probably missing something really obvious here – something that was so 
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn’t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 --
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
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Re:Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Rob Davies
Morning Again,

Image Capture through USB also. I suppose that means iPhoto also; do not know 
do not use, but Adobe Bridge recognises.

Cheers!
`RobD..

On 30Sep2010, at 3:11 am, Rob Davies wrote:

 Morning,
 
 As mentioned Bluetooth support within iPhone is for devices only, as per most 
 things Apple.
 
 USB connection and GraphicConverter will do same as Bluetooth except with 
 cable connected?
 
 Another App called FileApp will allow a little more flexibility, but requires 
 DiskAid on desktop, fees apply. 
 Alternatives available??? 
 I bought as bundle with TuneAid best app for sorting iTunes and iPod devices: 
 license extends to a Windows install and many machines.
 
 Just carry spare USB cable in Laptop case.
 
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD
 
 
 
 On 29Sep2010, at 9:27 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly 
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by 
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel 
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having 
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any 
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or 
 Graphic Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image Capture 
 lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with 
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 Paired: Yes
 Configured: Yes
 Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the 
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on, 
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth 
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly – but I was 
 under the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to 
 connect the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection? 
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect, 
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option 
 it gave me was to “forget Device” - which it did - the iMac no longer showed 
 up – just the “searching” wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and 
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as 
 “connected” however, image capture couldn’t see the iPhone and, after a 
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly 
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device’s connection. Make sure the device is 
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I’m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off 
 on the iPhone (since I don’t actually want to conect to the internet through 
 the iPhone).
 
 I’m probably missing something really obvious here – something that was so 
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn’t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 --
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Neil,

On 30/09/2010, at 1:48 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Definitely a BAD thing in my book – you already have security settings to 
 allow you to only approve the bluetooth connections you want on a 
 case-by-case basis.

I think Apple have gone this route as they are determined to keep the iPhone as 
secure as they possibly can.

Once you give people the option to lay their phones wide open by say allowing a 
phone to be Always visible and connectable as many other phones do, then 
you're asking for the onslaught of phone viruses and trojans.


Using peer-to-peer connectivity

Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets, 
peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.

Peer to peer is not tethering. See this... http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3621 

iPhone iOS4 User Guide:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPhone_iOS4_User_Guide.pdf

On Page 116 of the above Manual:
Sharing Photos and Videos:
You can send photos and videos in email and MMS messages, add photos and videos 
to MobileMe galleries, and publish videos to YouTube. 
You can also copy and paste photos and videos, save photos and videos from 
email messages to Photos, and save images from webpages to Photos.

This link includes the bluetooth profiles that the iPhone supports. 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647

Neil you asked what the Profiles meant: Personal Area Network Profile(PAN), 
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) mean?
Answer:
Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets, 
peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.

Reunion uses a wireless connection via Airport to Sync.



Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 30/09/2010, at 1:44 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:

 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks very much for that info.
 
 I must admit, I’m extremely unimpressed with Apple’s approach here. One of 
 the great things we found on our holiday was the ability to easily transfer 
 photos – not only to our own computer, but also to friends/people we met. Now 
 it appears that it is beyond the capabilities of my new iPhone – I have to 
 have a cable in my pocket – and, even if I do, I’m not sure how that would 
 work with, say, a windows laptop (without iTunes installed?).
 
 

Although Apple doesn't support file transfer via Bluetooth natively, there is 
plenty of third party support for this. Go to the iTunes Store and search for 
Files. You will be presented with a mind-boggling selection. iFiles is just 
one example of a solution which will do what you want.


Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton
Rob,

Thanks for the info.

Yes, I have no problem when connected by cable ­ and to my own computer
where I have plenty of suitable software.


I¹m just disappointed that if I were, say, at a friends house (iPhone in
pocket) and during a conversation:

³I took some photos ­ would you like a copy² - can¹t be done by simple
bluetooth transfer ­ when my partners ancient 2G Nokia can...

Cue her comment ³but I thought your iPhone could do everything!² and then
the snigger   ;o(

Also, even with a cable, I¹m not sure what software would be required on,
say, a non-iTunes windows machine to let it see the photos on the iPhone.


Cheers


Neil
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on 30/9/10 3:11 AM, Rob Davies at rjda...@gmail.com wrote:

 Morning,
 
 As mentioned Bluetooth support within iPhone is for devices only, as per most
 things Apple.
 
 USB connection and GraphicConverter will do same as Bluetooth except with
 cable connected?
 
 Another App called FileApp will allow a little more flexibility, but requires
 DiskAid on desktop, fees apply.
 Alternatives available???
 I bought as bundle with TuneAid best app for sorting iTunes and iPod devices:
 license extends to a Windows install and many machines.
 
 Just carry spare USB cable in Laptop case.
 
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD
 
 
 
 On 29Sep2010, at 9:27 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or Graphic
 Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 * Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image
 Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 * Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone with
 my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 * Paired: Yes 
 * Configured: Yes
 * Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on,
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly ­ but I was under
 the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to connect
 the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection?
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect,
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option
 it gave me was to ³forget Device² - which it did - the iMac no longer showed
 up ­ just the ³searching² wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as
 ³connected² however, image capture couldn¹t see the iPhone and, after a
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device¹s connection. Make sure the device is
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I¹m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off
 on the iPhone (since I don¹t actually want to conect to the internet through
 the iPhone).
 
 I¹m probably missing something really obvious here ­ something that was so
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn¹t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Rob,

Yes, Image Capture through USB is how I have it set-up on the iMac at home.

Cheers



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on 30/9/10 3:19 AM, Rob Davies at rjda...@gmail.com wrote:

 Morning Again,
 
 Image Capture through USB also. I suppose that means iPhoto also; do not know
 do not use, but Adobe Bridge recognises.
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD..
 
 On 30Sep2010, at 3:11 am, Rob Davies wrote:
 
 Morning,
 
 As mentioned Bluetooth support within iPhone is for devices only, as per most
 things Apple.
 
 USB connection and GraphicConverter will do same as Bluetooth except with
 cable connected?
 
 Another App called FileApp will allow a little more flexibility, but requires
 DiskAid on desktop, fees apply.
 Alternatives available???
 I bought as bundle with TuneAid best app for sorting iTunes and iPod devices:
 license extends to a Windows install and many machines.
 
 Just carry spare USB cable in Laptop case.
 
 
 Cheers!
 `RobD
 
 
 
 On 29Sep2010, at 9:27 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to regularly
 transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to our MacBook pro by
 bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could do it over drinks in the hotel
 bar.
 
 I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but I'm having
 problems:
 
 Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos like any
 other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with quicklook (or
 Graphic Converter) and edit using Photoshop elements or Graphic Converter.
 
 So far, I've successfully achieved the following:
 
 * Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable - Image
 Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no problems.
 
 * Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired the iPhone
 with my Imac.
 
 If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
 * Paired: Yes 
 * Configured: Yes
 * Connected: No
 
 Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
 So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.
 
 If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth menu but the
 only option is Connect to Network and, if I try that, I get the message:
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the device is on,
 in range, paired correctly (which it is) and services such as Bluetooth
 tethering are set up properly.
 
 Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly ­ but I was
 under the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering if I wanted to
 connect the computer to the internet using the iPhones internet connection?
 
 If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried to connect,
 it said that the device (my iMacs name) was unsupported and the only option
 it gave me was to ³forget Device² - which it did - the iMac no longer showed
 up ­ just the ³searching² wheel.
 
 Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering, unpaired and
 re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone showed the iMac as
 ³connected² however, image capture couldn¹t see the iPhone and, after a
 minute or two, the iPhone disconnected and the mac showed a slightly
 different error message:
 
 
 The Bluetooth network is unavailable
 There was a problem with the device¹s connection. Make sure the device is
 turned on, in range, and set up properly.
 
 I¹m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data set to off
 on the iPhone (since I don¹t actually want to conect to the internet through
 the iPhone).
 
 I¹m probably missing something really obvious here ­ something that was so
 easy on an ancient nokia shouldn¹t be so hard on my new iPhone surely!!
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread mince and pud


Hi Neil
my samsung phone is horrible in many respects but i can at least  
bluetooth files with ease so i can understand how annoying it must be  
that you grown-up phone won't.


I suppose you could always email the files if there weren't too many -  
inelegant, I know..


best
alastair


On 30/09/2010, at 3:26 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Rob,

Yes, Image Capture through USB is how I have it set-up on the iMac  
at home.


Cheers



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on 30/9/10 3:19 AM, Rob Davies at rjda...@gmail.com wrote:


Morning Again,

Image Capture through USB also. I suppose that means iPhoto also;  
do not know do not use, but Adobe Bridge recognises.


Cheers!
`RobD..

On 30Sep2010, at 3:11 am, Rob Davies wrote:


Morning,

As mentioned Bluetooth support within iPhone is for devices only,  
as per most things Apple.


USB connection and GraphicConverter will do same as Bluetooth  
except with cable connected?


Another App called FileApp will allow a little more flexibility,  
but requires DiskAid on desktop, fees apply.

Alternatives available???
I bought as bundle with TuneAid best app for sorting iTunes and  
iPod devices: license extends to a Windows install and many  
machines.


Just carry spare USB cable in Laptop case.


Cheers!
`RobD



On 29Sep2010, at 9:27 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:

On our last European holiday (a couple of years ago) we used to  
regularly transfer photos from Georgie's Nokia mobile phone to  
our MacBook pro by bluetooth - it was very convenient - we could  
do it over drinks in the hotel bar.


I was trying to figure out how to do it with my new iPhone - but  
I'm having problems:


Note, I don't use/like iPhoto - I prefer to just manage my photos  
like any other file - so I import using Image Capture, view with  
quicklook (or Graphic Converter) and edit using Photoshop  
elements or Graphic Converter.


So far, I've successfully achieved the following:

	• Transferred photos when connected directly by dock/usb cable -  
Image Capture lets me browse  import from the iPhone with no  
problems.


	• Switched on bluetooth on the iPhone and successfully paired  
the iPhone with my Imac.


If I look in Bluetooth Preferences, I can see the iPhone with:
• Paired: Yes
• Configured: Yes
• Connected: No

Also I have enabled Bluetooth sharing.
So the problem seems to be actually making the connection.

If I try from the imac, I can see the iPhone in the bluetooth  
menu but the only option is Connect to Network and, if I try  
that, I get the message:



The Bluetooth network is unavailable
There was a problem connecting to your device. Make sure the  
device is on, in range, paired correctly (which it is) and  
services such as Bluetooth tethering are set up properly.


Well the device is certainly on, in range, paired correctly – but  
I was under the impression, I would only need Bluetooth tethering  
if I wanted to connect the computer to the internet using the  
iPhones internet connection?


If I try from the iPhone, I could see the iMac but when I tried  
to connect, it said that the device (my iMacs name) was  
unsupported and the only option it gave me was to “forget Device”  
- which it did - the iMac no longer showed up – just the  
“searching” wheel.


Just as a long shot, I tried turning on bluetooth tethering,  
unpaired and re-paired the iPhone and, for a while, the iPhone  
showed the iMac as “connected” however, image capture couldn’t  
see the iPhone and, after a minute or two, the iPhone  
disconnected and the mac showed a slightly different error message:




The Bluetooth network is unavailable
There was a problem with the device’s connection. Make sure the  
device is turned on, in range, and set up properly.


I’m assuming this probably comes up because I have Cellular Data  
set to off on the iPhone (since I don’t actually want to conect  
to the internet through the iPhone).


I’m probably missing something really obvious here – something  
that was so easy on an ancient nokia shouldn’t be so hard on my  
new iPhone surely!!



Cheers


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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton
Great!!

Thanks for that, Peter ­ I will definitely check this out.



 You will be presented with a mind-boggling selection.
 
Hehe, yes, this is always a problem when I visit the apps store ­ my mind is
well and truly boggled by the overwhelming selection!!




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on 30/9/10 8:26 AM, Peter Hinchliffe at hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

 
 On 30/09/2010, at 1:44 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Thanks very much for that info.
 
 I must admit, I¹m extremely unimpressed with Apple¹s approach here. One of
 the great things we found on our holiday was the ability to easily transfer
 photos ­ not only to our own computer, but also to friends/people we met. Now
 it appears that it is beyond the capabilities of my new iPhone ­ I have to
 have a cable in my pocket ­ and, even if I do, I¹m not sure how that would
 work with, say, a windows laptop (without iTunes installed?).
 
 
 
 Although Apple doesn't support file transfer via Bluetooth natively, there is
 plenty of third party support for this. Go to the iTunes Store and search for
 Files. You will be presented with a mind-boggling selection. iFiles is just
 one example of a solution which will do what you want.
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
 
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Re: How do you make a bluetooth connection between Mac iPhone

2010-09-29 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Ronni,

Thanks for the additional info - and not taking offence at my 1am rant  ;o)
:


on 30/9/10 8:17 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Neil,
 
 On 30/09/2010, at 1:48 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Definitely a BAD thing in my book ­ you already have security settings to
 allow you to only approve the bluetooth connections you want on a
 case-by-case basis.
 
 I think Apple have gone this route as they are determined to keep the iPhone
 as secure as they possibly can.
 
 Once you give people the option to lay their phones wide open by say allowing
 a phone to be Always visible and connectable as many other phones do, then
 you're asking for the onslaught of phone viruses and trojans.
 
Yes, but that¹s really no different to setting up your iMac, say, with no
password protection and firewall off and setting up a wireless network with
no security ­ you would be asking for trouble.

Surely, all they need to do is make the more secure Bluetooth settings the
default settings ­ so you would have to intentionally open it up to be
Always visible and connectable



 
 Using peer-to-peer connectivity
 
 Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets,
 peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.
 
 Peer to peer is not tethering. See this...
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3621
 
OK, that makes more sense now, thanks for the link. So it would seem that
bluetooth file transfer should, indeed be do-able ­ just that it needs a
third party app to actually implement it (as Peter alluded to in his post) -
I will investigate this option.



 iPhone iOS4 User Guide:
 http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPhone_iOS4_User_Guide.pdf
 
Hehe, Yeah rtfm! ...  I must admit, I had already downloaded  this and
skimmed through it ­ but thought I would leave real reading of all 244 pages
till later!Still, although the manual gives lots of details of how to do
various things ­ I didn¹t see anywhere where it pointed out that Apple did
not allow photos to be transferred by bluetooth.
 
 
 
 On Page 116 of the above Manual:
 Sharing Photos and Videos:
 You can send photos and videos in email and MMS messages, add photos and
 videos to MobileMe galleries, and publish videos to YouTube.
 You can also copy and paste photos and videos, save photos and videos from
 email messages to Photos, and save images from webpages to Photos.
 
Yeah, but using up two peoples wireless broadband data allowance to transfer
photos between two devices in close proximity would seem to be not only
inefficient and expensive but, somehow, just plain WRONG!
 
 
 
 This link includes the bluetooth profiles that the iPhone supports.
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3647
 
 Neil you asked what the Profiles meant: Personal Area Network Profile(PAN),
 Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP) mean?
 Answer:
 Stereo headphones/systems, handsfree telephone and telephone headsets,
 peer-to-peer apps, and tethering in countries whose providers support this.
 
 Reunion uses a wireless connection via Airport to Sync.
 
I guess my point/question here was what is the bluetooth profile that the
iPhone does NOT support that would allow bluetooth file transport if the
iPhone DID support it ­ however from the further info above, I am getting
the impression that the problem is not an unsupported bluetooth profile but
rather that bluetooth file transport would use one of the supported
bluetooth profiles (Personal Area Network Profile??) but the problem is that
no means is actually provided to implement this. (again, I will now
investigate third party apps).


Ronni, thanks again for all the good info ­ even when the solutions are
elusive or the answers are not what I want to hear, I always end up knowing
more than when I started!!


Cheers



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 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Skype Bluetooth

2010-07-21 Thread Ken Jackson



Hi folks,
has anybody ever used a Bluetooth earpiece with Skype?
Can it be done?
If so... how?

Thanks all



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Re: Skype Bluetooth

2010-07-21 Thread Daniel Kerr

Haven't tried, but is possible...

http://www.google.com.au/search?client=safarirls=enq=skype+and+bluetooth+
headset+for+macie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8redir_esc=ei=HatHTNjQPMuXcYWbiNgD

Kind Regards
Daniel

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 Hi folks,
 has anybody ever used a Bluetooth earpiece with Skype?
 Can it be done?
 If so... how?
 
 Thanks all
 
 
 
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 +61  08 9376 1680
 
0409 770 747
 
 Skype kennyj1098
 
   kenjackson7...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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iPad/Wireless bluetooth printer

2010-07-02 Thread Stuart Breden


Genie Solutions http://www.geniesolutions.com.au/ is developing an  
iPad version of the software.  so far it is going fine but needs  
further developing.


I see in a recent Macworld tip talk about printing from iPhone and  
iPad and with multitasking in iOS 4 printing may be easier.


Is it currently possible to print directly from an application on  
iPad, say Genie with out opening a separate print programme?


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Wireless/Bluetooth mic/iPhone/Voice Memos

2010-06-07 Thread Stuart Breden


Is there a plug in or wireless Bluetooth external microphone that you  
can use with Voice Memos in the iPhone?


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Re: Bluetooth keyboard - how to swap computers - Solved

2010-04-13 Thread Neil Houghton

OK - problem solved.

Whilst it was obvious the keyboard could only be connected to one computer
at a time, it would also seem that the keyboard can only be paired with
one computer at a time. Disconnecting the bluetooth keyboard from the 27
was not enough, I had to remove it from the bluetooth list on the 27 and
then the keyboard became discoverable and connection with the 24 went as
normal.

FYI removing from the list was just selecting it in the Bluetooth prefs pane
and hitting the - button.


Cheers



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on 13/4/10 1:27 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:

 
 Replying to my own post, from further reading of Apples support site:
 
 When your keyboard is on and paired, and the batteries are charged, the light
 will glow steadily for several seconds, then turn off.
 (which it does) 
 
 and:
 If your wireless keyboard isn¹t paired with your Mac, the indicator light
 will
 begin to blink. This indicates your keyboard is in discovery mode  and ready
 to pair with your Mac.
 (which it doesn't)
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3048#1
 
 Also from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3894#discoverymode
 
 Discoverable: When a Bluetooth enabled device is ³discoverable,² other
 Bluetooth devices can detect, pair, or connect to it.
 
 Discovery mode: See discoverable. An Apple wireless keyboard or  mouse will
 flash its indicator light when it is in discovery mode. Apple devices will
 turn off discovery mode after approximately three minutes to save battery
 life. Mac computers are always discoverable, unless you disable discovery
 mode.
 
 So, it seems to me that the problem may be:
 
 - The keyboard needs to be in discovery mode before the 24 iMac can see
 it.
 
 - The keyboard is not in discovery mode because it is paired with the 27
 iMac.
 
 So, if that is the case, how do I get around this?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil





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Re: Bluetooth keyboard - how to swap computers - Solved - and a further question

2010-04-13 Thread Neil Houghton

So... I was just thinking - if the keyboard is paired with a computer and
you no longer have access to the computer to delete the pairing (computer
broken/stolen or you just took the keyboard on hols with your laptop but
forgot to cut it loose from your desktop first) - is there any way to
reset the keyboard to remove the pairing and initiate discoverable mode?


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on 13/4/10 3:01 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:

 
 OK - problem solved.
 
 Whilst it was obvious the keyboard could only be connected to one computer
 at a time, it would also seem that the keyboard can only be paired with
 one computer at a time. Disconnecting the bluetooth keyboard from the 27
 was not enough, I had to remove it from the bluetooth list on the 27 and
 then the keyboard became discoverable and connection with the 24 went as
 normal.
 
 FYI removing from the list was just selecting it in the Bluetooth prefs pane
 and hitting the - button.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil (who learns something new everyday!)





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Bluetooth keyboard - how to swap computers

2010-04-12 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi All,

I've got an annoying little problem at present - I'm sure the solution is
simple - but its eluding me :(

I got one of the new wireless keyboards with my new 27 i7 iMac - no
problems there, all working fine.

However, since I do a lot of spreadsheet work and I am used to having a
numbers keypad, I have gone back to using a wired keyboard (the one from my
previous 24 iMac) - again no problems, all working fine.

Today I had call to fire up the old 24 iMac - but the keyboard is plugged
into the back of the new machine - so I thought I'd just use the wireless
keyboard - and that's where my problems start.

Bluetooth is working fine on the 24 iMac (wireless mighty mouse connected
and working) but for the life of me I can't connect to the wireless keyboard
- it just can't find it (I borrowed another USB keyboard while I tried to
sort it out).

At first, I thought I'd found the problem - when I switched on the wireless
keyboard, it connected automatically to the new 27 iMac (which it had been
originally set-up to work with) - so I know the keyboard is OK but thought
that, being connected to the 27, it wasn't available to any other computer
- so I disconnected the keyboard from the 27 (from the bluetooth menu) and
tried again to connect from the 24 - but no joy.

I must admit, I don't understand the whole on/off sleep/wake green light
set-up on these keyboards. When I press the on/off switch, the green light
always comes on for a few seconds and then goes out - so I even tried
pressing the switch again while the 24 was looking for a keyboard to
connect to - however this just reconnected the keyboard to the 27!

To prevent the 27 getting in first I even tried switching the 27 off
(after disconnecting the keyboard) and trying again from the 24 - no joy.

So, the situation seems to be:
The keyboard works fine (with the 27 iMac)
Bluetooth works fine on the 24
The 24 cannot see the keyboard

I have never had problems moving wireless mice from one computer to another
( back again) - why is the keyboard different.

The 27 is running 10.6.3 and the 24 is currently running 10.5.8 - could
that be relevant - though Apple says it's perfect for ANY Bluetooth-enabled
Mac (running 10.5.8 or later).

Do I have to unpair the 27 and keyboard somehow? (never had to for a
mouse).

Like I say, the solution is probably simple - anyone got it??


Cheers



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Re: Bluetooth keyboard - how to swap computers

2010-04-12 Thread Neil Houghton

Replying to my own post, from further reading of Apples support site:

 When your keyboard is on and paired, and the batteries are charged, the light
 will glow steadily for several seconds, then turn off.
(which it does) 

and:
 If your wireless keyboard isn¹t paired with your Mac, the indicator light will
 begin to blink. This indicates your keyboard is in discovery mode  and ready
 to pair with your Mac.
(which it doesn't)

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3048#1

Also from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3894#discoverymode

 Discoverable: When a Bluetooth enabled device is ³discoverable,² other
 Bluetooth devices can detect, pair, or connect to it.
 
 Discovery mode: See discoverable. An Apple wireless keyboard or  mouse will
 flash its indicator light when it is in discovery mode. Apple devices will
 turn off discovery mode after approximately three minutes to save battery
 life. Mac computers are always discoverable, unless you disable discovery
 mode.

So, it seems to me that the problem may be:

- The keyboard needs to be in discovery mode before the 24 iMac can see
it.

- The keyboard is not in discovery mode because it is paired with the 27
iMac.

So, if that is the case, how do I get around this?


Cheers



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on 13/4/10 1:02 PM, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:

 
 Hi All,
 
 I've got an annoying little problem at present - I'm sure the solution is
 simple - but its eluding me :(
 
 I got one of the new wireless keyboards with my new 27 i7 iMac - no
 problems there, all working fine.
 
 However, since I do a lot of spreadsheet work and I am used to having a
 numbers keypad, I have gone back to using a wired keyboard (the one from my
 previous 24 iMac) - again no problems, all working fine.
 
 Today I had call to fire up the old 24 iMac - but the keyboard is plugged
 into the back of the new machine - so I thought I'd just use the wireless
 keyboard - and that's where my problems start.
 
 Bluetooth is working fine on the 24 iMac (wireless mighty mouse connected
 and working) but for the life of me I can't connect to the wireless keyboard
 - it just can't find it (I borrowed another USB keyboard while I tried to
 sort it out).
 
 At first, I thought I'd found the problem - when I switched on the wireless
 keyboard, it connected automatically to the new 27 iMac (which it had been
 originally set-up to work with) - so I know the keyboard is OK but thought
 that, being connected to the 27, it wasn't available to any other computer
 - so I disconnected the keyboard from the 27 (from the bluetooth menu) and
 tried again to connect from the 24 - but no joy.
 
 I must admit, I don't understand the whole on/off sleep/wake green light
 set-up on these keyboards. When I press the on/off switch, the green light
 always comes on for a few seconds and then goes out - so I even tried
 pressing the switch again while the 24 was looking for a keyboard to
 connect to - however this just reconnected the keyboard to the 27!
 
 To prevent the 27 getting in first I even tried switching the 27 off
 (after disconnecting the keyboard) and trying again from the 24 - no joy.
 
 So, the situation seems to be:
 The keyboard works fine (with the 27 iMac)
 Bluetooth works fine on the 24
 The 24 cannot see the keyboard
 
 I have never had problems moving wireless mice from one computer to another
 ( back again) - why is the keyboard different.
 
 The 27 is running 10.6.3 and the 24 is currently running 10.5.8 - could
 that be relevant - though Apple says it's perfect for ANY Bluetooth-enabled
 Mac (running 10.5.8 or later).
 
 Do I have to unpair the 27 and keyboard somehow? (never had to for a
 mouse).
 
 Like I say, the solution is probably simple - anyone got it??
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 Neil




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RE: Bluetooth Magic Mouse

2010-01-17 Thread Crisp, Peter

Ok, thanks for that Ronni, is it safe to assume the foibles I am
experiencing are not just a simple set-up error by me but in fact a
genuine bug which needs fixing?

We will hang in there.

Cheers...

Peter...

-Original Message-
From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Sunday, 17 January 2010 3:21 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Magic Mouse


Hi Peter,

As Wendy said in her reply,
 deleting the bluetooth plist in MacIntosh HD  LibraryPreferences
and restarting computer.  
 The Magic Mouse then works properly however, this annoying fix needs
to be done
 every time I shut down and restart the computer. 

Hopefully Apple will have a fix for the Magic Mouse soon.
OS X 10.6.3 is due to be released very soon with a lot of 'fixes' 

Just Hang in there Peter 

Cheers,
Ronni
 
On 17/01/2010, at 3:00 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

 
 HI all, I've followed Wendy's tips here and managed to locate and
delete
 the Bluetooth plist file and then a restart. First time i did this,
 functionality was good (Left and Right mouse commands were working). I
 still haven't explored the functions of the mouse beyond standard
 pointing and Left Right click commands - until I get these reliable,
not
 a lot of point using it
 
 I then did a software update which in turn required a restart after
 the updates. Following this, the mouse reverted to its stubborn self
(no
 Left or Right mouse commands working) yet moving the mouse around
would
 move the pointer.
 
 If it try Open mouse preferences I get the little video demo, but
 still no Right or Left functioning from the Mouse.
 
 I'm rapidly loosing credibility with SWMBO as it is she who uses the
 Macbook.
 
 Any further tips from anyone?
 
 Peter.
 
 13 Macbook
 Snow Leopard
 Magic (!) Mouse
 Time Capsule 1TB
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
 Behalf Of Wendy S. Austin
 Sent: Wednesday, 13 January 2010 11:49 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Bluetooth Magic Mouse
 
 
 Greetings Peter
 
 Not sure if your problems are the same as mine - 
 
 I am having problems with Magic Mouse whereby it stopped doing all the
 extra things like scrolling and became just an 'ordinary mouse'.
Also
 looking at the System Preferences Mouse, I no longer got the video
 showing how to use the Magic Mouse, instead it just showed ordinary
 mouse setups.After three lengthy phone calls with Apple Support,
the
 third person I spoke with suggested deleting the bluetooth plist in
 MacIntosh HD  LibraryPreferences and restarting computer.   The
Magic
 Mouse then works properly however, this annoying fix needs to be done
 every time I shut down and restart the computer.   I am about to speak
 with Apple again to see if there is a proper, permanent fix for it.
 
 Wendy
 Hobart
 On 12/01/2010, at 14:56 , Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 Has anyone else had this experience, what are the simple guides for a
 newbie to undertake to correct this aberration for good? Is this a
known
 phenomenon or am I unique in my experinces here?
 
 



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