Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Pete
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel's suggestion is the best way to go.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, note that I suggested (perhaps not very clearly) that you 
>>>>>> recreate your old email 'account' in mail.  The important thing to 
>>>>>> recognise is that your email account with Westnet still exists. It's 
>>>>>> just that the connection to that account in the Mail email browser is 
>>>>>> being changed. Unfortunately, Mail calls this an 'account', so it gets 
>>>>>> confusing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14/10/2015 6:02 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Rob, the issue is I want to retain my existing email address. To 
>>>>>>> change that means a massive undertaking in alerting the many places 
>>>>>>> where my email address is embedded - Apple store, wine sellers just to 
>>>>>>> name a couple. So the point being I only want to change the account 
>>>>>>> type but keep the rest unchanged.  Daniel has chimed in with a 
>>>>>>> suggestion which I will try tonight. I'll advise the group of success 
>>>>>>> (hopefully).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14 Oct 2015, at 2:54 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Pete
>>>>>>>> I think the problem might be in trying to use the same email address.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A possible way forward is (with lots of backups and care - including 
>>>>>>>> downloading recent emails onto a second device)
>>>>>>>> create a new email address - gmail - or even better a second westnet 
>>>>>>>> address associated with your account
>>>>>>>> try to create an IMAP account for this
>>>>>>>> Move your old messages into new new mailbox
>>>>>>>> try the disable/ enable thing again. Maybe you can change the server 
>>>>>>>> settings now.  Failing this, delete that old mailbox and create a new 
>>>>>>>> IMAP one.
>>>>>>>> Copy your old messages back.
>>>>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 14/10/2015 7:55 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Rob, thanks for the suggestion. The process in Mail to go from POP 
>>>>>>>>> to IMAP requires establishment of a new account, you;re unable to 
>>>>>>>>> just change the server address as the Account Type (POP) is superior 
>>>>>>>>> to that. Unfortunately I am unable to get past the first dialogue 
>>>>>>>>> where entry of the account detail (Name, email address and password) 
>>>>>>>>> are required before getting to selecting IMAP/POP and server details. 
>>>>>>>>> That is the problem I have. I have altered the Name and password of 
>>>>>>>>> the account from the disabled account detail (no point changing the 
>>>>>>>>> email address as the old address is MY address) and still no joy. 
>>>>>>>>> Might have to ring Apple or chat.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>> <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent:
>>>>>>>>> Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:09 +0800
>>>>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>>>>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>>>>>>>

Fwd: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

>> Rob
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14/10/2015 6:02 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Rob, the issue is I want to retain my existing email address. To 
>>>>>> change that means a massive undertaking in alerting the many places 
>>>>>> where my email address is embedded - Apple store, wine sellers just to 
>>>>>> name a couple. So the point being I only want to change the account type 
>>>>>> but keep the rest unchanged.  Daniel has chimed in with a suggestion 
>>>>>> which I will try tonight. I'll advise the group of success (hopefully).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14 Oct 2015, at 2:54 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Pete
>>>>>>> I think the problem might be in trying to use the same email address.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A possible way forward is (with lots of backups and care - including 
>>>>>>> downloading recent emails onto a second device)
>>>>>>> create a new email address - gmail - or even better a second westnet 
>>>>>>> address associated with your account
>>>>>>> try to create an IMAP account for this
>>>>>>> Move your old messages into new new mailbox
>>>>>>> try the disable/ enable thing again. Maybe you can change the server 
>>>>>>> settings now.  Failing this, delete that old mailbox and create a new 
>>>>>>> IMAP one.
>>>>>>> Copy your old messages back.
>>>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 14/10/2015 7:55 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Rob, thanks for the suggestion. The process in Mail to go from POP 
>>>>>>>> to IMAP requires establishment of a new account, you;re unable to just 
>>>>>>>> change the server address as the Account Type (POP) is superior to 
>>>>>>>> that. Unfortunately I am unable to get past the first dialogue where 
>>>>>>>> entry of the account detail (Name, email address and password) are 
>>>>>>>> required before getting to selecting IMAP/POP and server details. That 
>>>>>>>> is the problem I have. I have altered the Name and password of the 
>>>>>>>> account from the disabled account detail (no point changing the email 
>>>>>>>> address as the old address is MY address) and still no joy. Might have 
>>>>>>>> to ring Apple or chat.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>> <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent:
>>>>>>>> Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:09 +0800
>>>>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>>>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I use Thunderbird not Mail, but have you changed the mail server 
>>>>>>>> address? It should be something like imap.westnet.com.au, instead of 
>>>>>>>> pop.westnet.comau.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13/10/2015 8:13 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail 
>>>>>>>> account to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as 
>>>>>>>> below here. Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables 
>>>>>>>> the account I disabled. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pete...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Bill Parker]

I cannot delete the message below
Is there some way - other than move or delete?
iPhone 4.0 latest system
Bill

Sent from Bill Parker's iPhone


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:21, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm,
> 
> The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present until you go to enter the 
> Outgoing server details.
> 
> This is not working for me:
> 
> Go to settings, mail/contacts/calendars
> Select the new Internode account
> Next page has an IMAP heading and an “Account:” box showing the correct email 
> address
> Select the account takes me to the account information page – which is headed 
> IMAP ACCOUNT INFORMATION – there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> Scroll down to OUTGOING MAIL SERVER – which correctly shows SMTP:  
> mail.intenode.on.net (same as my working POP accounts on computers) - again 
> there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> Select the SMTP account – shows mail.intenode.on.net as PRIMARY SERVER and as 
> ON - again there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> Select the mail.intenode.on.net PRIMARY SERVER – shows all the server details 
> – name/user name/password/use SSL/Authentication/Server Port - again there 
> are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> 
> That seems to be as far as I can go in outgoing server settings.
> 
> I see Ronni has provided further info – so I will peruse that now.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 16/10/15 11:35, petercr...@westnet.com.au at petercr...@westnet.com.au 
> wrote:
> 
> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present 
> until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to the top 
> of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The account 
> set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details first, 
> whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - and for 
> some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond outgoing 
> server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the 
> choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to 
> the other day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread 
> below.
> 
> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
> account type.
> 
> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of days, 
> I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long deleting 
> stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
>  wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
> earlier iOS versions.
> 
> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
> 
> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
> 
> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
> 
> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
> about the internode email set-up.
> 
> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
> computers - all running SL  ;o)  - so I now think the internode email is not
> the problem.
> 
> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
> 
> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings  ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Bill Parker]

The answer was - switch off the phone and restart.
Bill
> On 18 Oct 2015, at 06:24, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I cannot delete the message below
> Is there some way - other than move or delete?
> iPhone 4.0 latest system
> Bill
> 
> Sent from Bill Parker's iPhone
> 
> 
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:21, Neil Houghton  > wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm,
>> 
>> The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present until you go to enter the 
>> Outgoing server details.
>> 
>> This is not working for me:
>> 
>> Go to settings, mail/contacts/calendars
>> Select the new Internode account
>> Next page has an IMAP heading and an “Account:” box showing the correct 
>> email address
>> Select the account takes me to the account information page – which is 
>> headed IMAP ACCOUNT INFORMATION – there are no buttons anywhere to change 
>> IMAP/POP
>> Scroll down to OUTGOING MAIL SERVER – which correctly shows SMTP:  
>> mail.intenode.on.net  (same as my working POP 
>> accounts on computers) - again there are no buttons anywhere to change 
>> IMAP/POP
>> Select the SMTP account – shows mail.intenode.on.net 
>>  as PRIMARY SERVER and as ON - again there are 
>> no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
>> Select the mail.intenode.on.net  PRIMARY 
>> SERVER – shows all the server details – name/user name/password/use 
>> SSL/Authentication/Server Port - again there are no buttons anywhere to 
>> change IMAP/POP
>> 
>> That seems to be as far as I can go in outgoing server settings.
>> 
>> I see Ronni has provided further info – so I will peruse that now.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 16/10/15 11:35, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>  at petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
>> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not 
>> present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to 
>> the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The 
>> account set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details 
>> first, whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - 
>> and for some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond 
>> outgoing server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it 
>> provided me the choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of 
>> this prior to the other day when I was making the changes across my devices 
>> per the thread below.
>> 
>> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
>> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
>> account type.
>> 
>> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of 
>> days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long 
>> deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>>  wamug@wamug.org.au 
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG" >
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
>> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
>> earlier iOS versions.
>> 
>> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
>> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
>> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
>> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
>> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
>> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
>> 
>> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
>> 
>> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
>> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
>> 
>> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
>> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
>> about the internode email set-up.
>> 
>> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
>> computers - all running SL  ;o)  - so I now think the internode email is not
>> the problem.
>> 
>> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
>> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
>> 
>> Of course, I'd be 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Bill Parker]

Sent from Bill Parker's iPhone


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:21, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm,
> 
> The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present until you go to enter the 
> Outgoing server details.
> 
> This is not working for me:
> 
> Go to settings, mail/contacts/calendars
> Select the new Internode account
> Next page has an IMAP heading and an “Account:” box showing the correct email 
> address
> Select the account takes me to the account information page – which is headed 
> IMAP ACCOUNT INFORMATION – there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> Scroll down to OUTGOING MAIL SERVER – which correctly shows SMTP:  
> mail.intenode.on.net (same as my working POP accounts on computers) - again 
> there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> Select the SMTP account – shows mail.intenode.on.net as PRIMARY SERVER and as 
> ON - again there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> Select the mail.intenode.on.net PRIMARY SERVER – shows all the server details 
> – name/user name/password/use SSL/Authentication/Server Port - again there 
> are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
> 
> That seems to be as far as I can go in outgoing server settings.
> 
> I see Ronni has provided further info – so I will peruse that now.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 16/10/15 11:35, petercr...@westnet.com.au at petercr...@westnet.com.au 
> wrote:
> 
> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present 
> until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to the top 
> of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The account 
> set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details first, 
> whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - and for 
> some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond outgoing 
> server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the 
> choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to 
> the other day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread 
> below.
> 
> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
> account type.
> 
> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of days, 
> I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long deleting 
> stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
>  wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
> earlier iOS versions.
> 
> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
> 
> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
> 
> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
> 
> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
> about the internode email set-up.
> 
> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
> computers - all running SL  ;o)  - so I now think the internode email is not
> the problem.
> 
> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
> 
> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings  ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[FW]

Hi all,

Just a final question:
In the initial post Peter quoted :

“with a POP account, if you check your emails on your iPhone, the messages 
downloaded there will only be there; when you 
get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With IMAP, they’ll be 
on all your devices”

On my iinet POP account the messages are downloaded to the iMac + iPad. So I 
make the iinet account inactive on the iPad to
avoid having to read them again. And when I come back from Rottnest I see all 
the emails on the iMac after having read them
already on the iPad (when the account was active).

Thanks
Cheers
Walter


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 13:49 , Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> 
> 
> on 16/10/15 12:11, Ronni Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter, Neil and Michael,
>> 
>> Starting in  iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure 
>> out whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account 
>> on the iPhone.
> OK, so this explains the new problem – previous POP accounts se-up prior to 
> iOS 6 -  but because Internode supports IMAP iOS 7 unilaterally decides that 
> I need an IMAP set-up!
>> 
>> 
>> If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account. 
>> There are 2 problems with this added intelligence:
>> 1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP 
>> supports IMAP.
>> 2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. 
>> (I don’t know why people would but…)
> Because our personal domains are only used for email, we went cheap and only 
> have 20MB of disk storage... I know I should get around to upgrading the 
> package and paying for more – but, really, it has been working fine for us 
> for years so it’s not a high priority. I save a LOT of emails (my Entourage 
> database is currently 4GB!) - again I really need a cleanout but there is 
> always some other priority ;o)
> 
> I also don’t want to think about the implications of IMAP accounts on my 
> personal domain servers and the back-up/recovery systems needed - I really 
> want all my saved emails all in one place on my main computer (with 
> comprehensive backups) and my current system works well (for me!)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the 
>> server supported IMAP.
>> One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP.
>> Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp when setting it up, iOS 
>> will then try to auto-discover the account settings when it can’t it will 
>> ask you to fill in the server details and you can select POP or IMAP.
> OK, I may try this at some stage – but it currently seems to work OK so it 
> may have to wait ;o)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11
>> 
>> 
> Ronni, thanks very much for your explanations and suggestions – clear and 
> concise as always.
> 
> I now know exactly why I could set-up the POP accounts before but not now. I 
> also have a suggested fix if I decide I need to change to POP on the phone.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Neil Houghton]

Thanks for the link Pete,

However, this just shows the set-up procedure for either IMAP or POP, but
not how to change between the two. The link ³IMAP vs POP3², halfway down the
page, just takes you to:

> No help desk at help.gearhost.com
> 
> There is no help desk configured at this address. This means that the address
> is available and that you can claim it at http://www.zendesk.com/signup/


Anyway, after Ronni¹s explanation and suggestion, I¹m now happy enough with
the current situation.



Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com





on 16/10/15 19:43, Peter Crisp at petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> Not sure if this made it through.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 16 Oct 2015, at 6:28 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> A link I found might give some new options in setting up Neil.
>> 
>> https://gearhost.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200341645-Configure-IMAP-or-PO
>> P-Email-on-iPhone-iOS-
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 1:21 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP Hmmm,
>>> 
 The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present until you go to enter the
 Outgoing server details.
>>> 
>>> This is not working for me:
>>> 
>>> * Go to settings, mail/contacts/calendars
>>> * Select the new Internode account
>>> * Next page has an IMAP heading and an ³Account:² box showing the correct
>>> email address 
>>> * Select the account takes me to the account information page ­ which is
>>> headed IMAP ACCOUNT INFORMATION ­ there are no buttons anywhere to change
>>> IMAP/POP 
>>> * Scroll down to OUTGOING MAIL SERVER ­ which correctly shows SMTP:
>>> mail.intenode.on.net   (same as my working POP
>>> accounts on computers) - again there are no buttons anywhere to change
>>> IMAP/POP 
>>> * Select the SMTP account ­ shows mail.intenode.on.net
>>>   as PRIMARY SERVER and as ON - again there are
>>> no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
>>> * Select the mail.intenode.on.net   PRIMARY
>>> SERVER ­ shows all the server details ­ name/user name/password/use
>>> SSL/Authentication/Server Port - again there are no buttons anywhere to
>>> change IMAP/POP
>>> 
>>> That seems to be as far as I can go in outgoing server settings.
>>> 
>>> I see Ronni has provided further info ­ so I will peruse that now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Neil



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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Michael,

It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
earlier iOS versions.

The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.

Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.

My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2

As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
about the internode email set-up.

However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
computers - all running SL  ;o)  - so I now think the internode email is not
the problem.

It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((

Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings  ;o)



Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com





on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote:

> If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be
> over-ridden and POP specified instead?
> I use Westnet as ISP
> I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through Mail
> on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my
> hands on, whether it be mine or a  total strangers.
> 
> Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from
> iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then pressing
> delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if
> logged onto webmail.
> (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if deleted
> from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
> From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case deleting email
> meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using laptop or by
> using iPhone.
> 
> I think possible results are
> (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check emails via Mail
> if deleted on server
> (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used to check
> emails
> (C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still available on
> other devices used to check emails
> (D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted by using
> webmail
> (E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically deleted from
> deleted email box.
> 
> Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the possible
> permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and iPhone be
> set to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if emails are
> checked using an iOS device?
> 
> Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is selected
> on ISP server?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Michael Hawkins
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP
>> accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>>> On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
>>> Hi Pete, Hi Daniel,
>>> 
>>> I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the
>>> thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be set
>>> at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to be
>>> set to match (ie use the same protocol).
>>> 
>>> Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we have
>>> set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with these
>>> accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No
>>> problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so
>>> occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will upgrade
>>> the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth limitations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up an
>>> internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't really
>>> use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps
>>> involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are set as
>>> POP accounts and everything works 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[petercrisp]

G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing
the IMAP accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP
does not present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if
you scroll to the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons
for IMAP OR POP. The account set up process on iOS seems to ask for
Incoming server details first, whereupon entering that a "Verify"
operation occurs. Following that - and for some reason my iphone  had
defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond outgoing server (I am Westnet)
and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the choice at that
point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to the other
day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread
below.
So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the
setup phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do
accommodate this account type.
Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple
of days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so
long deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

 Hi Michael,

 It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a
number of
 POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up
under
 earlier iOS versions.

 The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode
email
 address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
 finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then
comes back
 set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc)
and
 have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every
thing and
 you have to start all over again - save and the account is all
set-up.

 Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and
IMAP.

 My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently
running
 the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2

 As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I
don't
 know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something
different
 about the internode email set-up.

 However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at
least 3
 computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email
is not
 the problem.

 It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple
deciding
 that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((

 Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me
to the
 hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)

 Cheers

 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com

 on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michaelhawk...@mjhawkins.com.au
wrote:

 > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it
be
 > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
 > I use Westnet as ISP
 > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in
through Mail
 > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I
could lay my
 > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
 > 
 > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing
Mail from
 > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box,
then pressing
 > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer
appeared if
 > logged onto webmail.
 > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop -
if deleted
 > from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
 > From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case
deleting email
 > meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using
laptop or by
 > using iPhone.
 > 
 > I think possible results are
 > (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check
emails via Mail
 > if deleted on server
 > (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used
to check
 > emails
 > (C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still
available on
 > other devices used to check emails
 > (D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted
by using
 > webmail
 > (E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically
deleted from
 > deleted email box.
 > 
 > Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the
possible
 > permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and
iPhone be
 > set to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if
emails are
 > checked using an iOS device?
 > 
 > Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is
selected
 > on ISP server?
 > 
 > Thank you,
 > 
 > Michael Hawkins
 > Sent from my iPhone
 > 
 >> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
 >> 
 >> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your
POP
 >> 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Peter and Neil,

Thank you for responding. Rather than blunder my way through written 
instructions from iinet/Westnet I’ve taken the easy way out and everything was 
sorted out during a phone consultation with a Westnet/Iinet fellow in Melbourne 
who was able to access my computer through LMIRescue. 

I’ve been with iinet/Westnet for 19 years or so and was on a legacy system. I’m 
now on a new much cheaper system for emails and my iPhone has been set up to 
use IMAP rather than POP.

So far life is much simpler.

Cheers,

Michael.
Yosemite 10.10.5
Mail 8.2


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 am,  
>  wrote:
> 
> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present 
> until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to the top 
> of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The account 
> set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details first, 
> whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - and for 
> some reason my iPhone  had defaulted to self nominating a Bigpond outgoing 
> server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the 
> choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to 
> the other day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread 
> below.
> 
> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
> account type.
> 
> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of days, 
> I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long deleting 
> stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
> earlier iOS versions.
> 
> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
> 
> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
> 
> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
> 
> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
> about the internode email set-up.
> 
> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
> computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email is not
> the problem.
> 
> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
> 
> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote:
> 
> > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be
> > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
> > I use Westnet as ISP
> > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through 
> > Mail
> > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my
> > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
> > 
> > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from
> > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then 
> > pressing
> > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if
> > logged onto webmail.
> > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if 
> > deleted
> > from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
> > From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case deleting 
> > email
> > meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using laptop or 
> > by
> > using iPhone.
> > 
> > I think possible results are
> > (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check emails via 
> > Mail
> > if deleted on server
> > (B) delete email on Server when it is 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter, Neil and Michael,

Starting in  iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure out 
whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account on the 
iPhone.

If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account. 
There are 2 problems with this added intelligence:
1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP 
supports IMAP.
2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. (I 
don’t know why people would but…)

I’ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the 
server supported IMAP.
One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP.
Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp  when 
setting it up, iOS will then try to auto-discover the account settings when it 
can’t it will ask you to fill in the server details and you can select POP or 
IMAP.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11

> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present 
> until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to the top 
> of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The account 
> set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details first, 
> whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - and for 
> some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond outgoing 
> server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the 
> choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to 
> the other day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread 
> below.
> 
> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
> account type.
> 
> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of days, 
> I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long deleting 
> stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
> earlier iOS versions.
> 
> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
> 
> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
> 
> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
> 
> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
> about the internode email set-up.
> 
> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
> computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email is not
> the problem.
> 
> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
> 
> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote:
> 
> > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be
> > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
> > I use Westnet as ISP
> > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through 
> > Mail
> > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my
> > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
> > 
> > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from
> > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then 
> > pressing
> > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if
> > logged onto webmail.
> > (Same result if 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Ronni,


on 16/10/15 12:11, Ronni Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Peter, Neil and Michael,
> 
> Starting in  iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure out
> whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account on the
> iPhone.
OK, so this explains the new problem ­ previous POP accounts se-up prior to
iOS 6 -  but because Internode supports IMAP iOS 7 unilaterally decides that
I need an IMAP set-up!
> 
> 
> If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account.
> There are 2 problems with this added intelligence:
> 1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP
> supports IMAP.
> 2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. (I
> don¹t know why people would butŠ)
Because our personal domains are only used for email, we went cheap and only
have 20MB of disk storage... I know I should get around to upgrading the
package and paying for more ­ but, really, it has been working fine for us
for years so it¹s not a high priority. I save a LOT of emails (my Entourage
database is currently 4GB!) - again I really need a cleanout but there is
always some other priority ;o)

I also don¹t want to think about the implications of IMAP accounts on my
personal domain servers and the back-up/recovery systems needed - I really
want all my saved emails all in one place on my main computer (with
comprehensive backups) and my current system works well (for me!)
> 
> 
> 
> I¹ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the
> server supported IMAP.
> One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP.
> Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp when setting it up, iOS will
> then try to auto-discover the account settings when it can¹t it will ask you
> to fill in the server details and you can select POP or IMAP.
OK, I may try this at some stage ­ but it currently seems to work OK so it
may have to wait ;o)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11
> 
> 
Ronni, thanks very much for your explanations and suggestions ­ clear and
concise as always.

I now know exactly why I could set-up the POP accounts before but not now. I
also have a suggested fix if I decide I need to change to POP on the phone.


Cheers



Neil
-- 
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

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[Ronda Brown]

Your email reply to Peter hit the mailing seconds after I had hit send  :-)
Waterproof iPhone cases are not meant for taking a swim in the river.

Hey Michael, don't push yourself so hard when training on the river.
Stick to coaching rowers ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:22 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> For me it all went awry when my very new iPhone in a very new supposedly 
> water proof case got wet after the carbon fibre shaft of a two month old 
> you-beaut oar snapped and the single scull I was in flipped.
> 
> The case was not entirely waterproof and the iPhone got a little damp - damp 
> enough to be replaced by Telstra. Telstra had set up the damaged phone and 
> everything went very well but for some reason the replacement phone was set 
> up for POP and my laptop was set up for IMAP.
> 
> As from 8:05 this morning I’ve been set up for IMAP on phone and laptop.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael Hawkins.
> 
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:11 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter, Neil and Michael,
>> 
>> Starting in  iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure 
>> out whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account 
>> on the iPhone.
>> 
>> If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account. 
>> There are 2 problems with this added intelligence:
>> 1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP 
>> supports IMAP.
>> 2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. 
>> (I don’t know why people would but…)
>> 
>> I’ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the 
>> server supported IMAP.
>> One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP.
>> Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp when setting it up, iOS 
>> will then try to auto-discover the account settings when it can’t it will 
>> ask you to fill in the server details and you can select POP or IMAP.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the 
>>> IMAP accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not 
>>> present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to 
>>> the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. 
>>> The account set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details 
>>> first, whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that 
>>> - and for some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond 
>>> outgoing server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it 
>>> provided me the choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware 
>>> of this prior to the other day when I was making the changes across my 
>>> devices per the thread below.
>>> 
>>> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
>>> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
>>> account type.
>>> 
>>> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of 
>>> days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long 
>>> deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
>>> 
>>> Pete.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From:
>>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>>> 
>>> To:
>>> "WAMUG" 
>>> Cc:
>>> 
>>> Sent:
>>> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
>>> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
>>> earlier iOS versions.
>>> 
>>> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
>>> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
>>> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
>>> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
>>> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
>>> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
>>> 
>>> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
>>> 
>>> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
>>> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
>>> 
>>> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
>>> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
>>> about the internode email set-up.
>>> 
>>> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Neil Houghton]

Hmmm,

> The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present until you go to enter the
> Outgoing server details.

This is not working for me:

* Go to settings, mail/contacts/calendars
* Select the new Internode account
* Next page has an IMAP heading and an ³Account:² box showing the correct
email address 
* Select the account takes me to the account information page ­ which is
headed IMAP ACCOUNT INFORMATION ­ there are no buttons anywhere to change
IMAP/POP 
* Scroll down to OUTGOING MAIL SERVER ­ which correctly shows SMTP:
mail.intenode.on.net (same as my working POP accounts on computers) - again
there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
* Select the SMTP account ­ shows mail.intenode.on.net as PRIMARY SERVER and
as ON - again there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP
* Select the mail.intenode.on.net PRIMARY SERVER ­ shows all the server
details ­ name/user name/password/use SSL/Authentication/Server Port - again
there are no buttons anywhere to change IMAP/POP

That seems to be as far as I can go in outgoing server settings.

I see Ronni has provided further info ­ so I will peruse that now.


Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com





on 16/10/15 11:35, petercr...@westnet.com.au at petercr...@westnet.com.au
wrote:

> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP
> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present
> until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to the top of
> that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The account set
> up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details first, whereupon
> entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - and for some
> reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond outgoing server (I
> am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the choice at
> that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to the other day
> when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread below.
> 
> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup
> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this
> account type.
> 
> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of days,
> I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long deleting stuff
> in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>>  wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
>> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
>> earlier iOS versions.
>> 
>> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
>> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
>> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
>> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
>> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
>> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
>> 
>> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
>> 
>> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
>> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
>> 
>> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
>> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
>> about the internode email set-up.
>> 
>> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
>> computers - all running SL  ;o)  - so I now think the internode email is not
>> the problem.
>> 
>> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
>> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
>> 
>> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
>> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings  ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil

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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni,

For me it all went awry when my very new iPhone in a very new supposedly water 
proof case got wet after the carbon fibre shaft of a two month old you-beaut 
oar snapped and the single scull I was in flipped.

The case was not entirely waterproof and the iPhone got a little damp - damp 
enough to be replaced by Telstra. Telstra had set up the damaged phone and 
everything went very well but for some reason the replacement phone was set up 
for POP and my laptop was set up for IMAP.

As from 8:05 this morning I’ve been set up for IMAP on phone and laptop.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins.


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:11 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter, Neil and Michael,
> 
> Starting in  iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure 
> out whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account 
> on the iPhone.
> 
> If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account. 
> There are 2 problems with this added intelligence:
> 1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP 
> supports IMAP.
> 2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. 
> (I don’t know why people would but…)
> 
> I’ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the 
> server supported IMAP.
> One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP.
> Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp  when 
> setting it up, iOS will then try to auto-discover the account settings when 
> it can’t it will ask you to fill in the server details and you can select POP 
> or IMAP.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
>> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not 
>> present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to 
>> the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The 
>> account set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details 
>> first, whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - 
>> and for some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond 
>> outgoing server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it 
>> provided me the choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of 
>> this prior to the other day when I was making the changes across my devices 
>> per the thread below.
>> 
>> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
>> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
>> account type.
>> 
>> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of 
>> days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long 
>> deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG" >
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
>> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
>> earlier iOS versions.
>> 
>> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
>> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
>> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
>> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
>> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
>> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
>> 
>> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
>> 
>> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
>> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
>> 
>> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
>> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
>> about the internode email set-up.
>> 
>> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
>> computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email is not
>> the problem.
>> 
>> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
>> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
>> 
>> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
>> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)
>> 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[petercrisp]

No problem, at least you got there in the end. Enjoy your new IMAP
config.
Regards
Pete. 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"List WAMUG Mailing" 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:15:01 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

 Hello Peter and Neil,
 Thank you for responding. Rather than blunder my way through written
instructions from iinet/Westnet I’ve taken the easy way out and
everything was sorted out during a phone consultation with a
Westnet/Iinet fellow in Melbourne who was able to access my computer
through LMIRescue.  
 I’ve been with iinet/Westnet for 19 years or so and was on a legacy
system. I’m now on a new much cheaper system for emails and my
iPhone has been set up to use IMAP rather than POP. 
 So far life is much simpler. 
 Cheers, 
 Michael. Yosemite 10.10.5 Mail 8.2 

 On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 am,   wrote: 
 G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing
the IMAP accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP
does not present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if
you scroll to the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons
for IMAP OR POP. The account set up process on iOS seems to ask for
Incoming server details first, whereupon entering that a "Verify"
operation occurs. Following that - and for some reason my iPhone  had
defaulted to self nominating a Bigpond outgoing server (I am Westnet)
and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the choice at that
point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to the other
day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread
below.
 So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the
setup phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do
accommodate this account type. 
 Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple
of days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so
long deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires. 
 Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [3]  
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc: 
Sent:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

 Hi Michael,

 It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a
number of
 POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up
under
 earlier iOS versions.

 The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode
email
 address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
 finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then
comes back
 set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc)
and
 have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every
thing and
 you have to start all over again - save and the account is all
set-up.

 Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and
IMAP.

 My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently
running
 the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2

 As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I
don't
 know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something
different
 about the internode email set-up.

 However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at
least 3
 computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email
is not
 the problem.

 It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple
deciding
 that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((

 Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me
to the
 hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)

 Cheers

 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com [5]

 on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au
[6] wrote:

 > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it
be
 > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
 > I use Westnet as ISP
 > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in
through Mail
 > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I
could lay my
 > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
 > 
 > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing
Mail from
 > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box,
then pressing
 > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer
appeared if
 > logged onto webmail.
 > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop -
if deleted
 > from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
 > From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case
deleting email
 > meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using
laptop or by
 > using iPhone.
 > 
 > I think possible results are
 > (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check
emails via Mail
 > if deleted on server
 > (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Michael Hawkins]

If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be 
over-ridden and POP specified instead?
I use Westnet as ISP
I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through Mail 
on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my 
hands on, whether it be mine or a  total strangers.

Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from 
iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then pressing 
delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if 
logged onto webmail.
(Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if deleted 
from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
>From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case deleting email 
>meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using laptop or by 
>using iPhone.

I think possible results are
(A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check emails via Mail 
if deleted on server
(B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used to check 
emails
(C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still available on 
other devices used to check emails
(D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted by using 
webmail
(E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically deleted from 
deleted email box.

Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the possible 
permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and iPhone be set 
to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if emails are checked 
using an iOS device?

Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is selected on 
ISP server?

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP 
> accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it.
> 
> Rob
> 
>> On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> Hi Pete, Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the
>> thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be set
>> at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to be
>> set to match (ie use the same protocol).
>> 
>> Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we have
>> set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with these
>> accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No
>> problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so
>> occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will upgrade
>> the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth limitations.
>> 
>> 
>> Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up an
>> internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't really
>> use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers.
>> 
>> 
>> I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps
>> involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are set as
>> POP accounts and everything works fine (test emails to and from both mine &
>> Georgies accounts.
>> 
>> 
>> Now, here's where it gets confusing
>> 
>> Recently Georgie was getting (and due to get) quite a lot of emails with
>> large phoo files attached - so I suggested she use her internode email
>> address to avoid running into bandwidth/storage limitations on her personal
>> email accounts. She had forgotten that she had this account and it was only
>> configured on the computers so she asked me to set-up the account on her
>> iPhone - which I did - only to find that mail on IOS automatically set up an
>> IMAP account!
>> 
>> So now it seems that there is an IMAP account on the iPhone and POP accounts
>> on several computers all connecting to the same basic Internode email
>> account. All seem to work well and send and receive email OK.
>> 
>> The IMAP account leaves messages on the server (as you would expect). The
>> POP accounts on the secondary computers also leave messages on the server
>> (as they have been set to do) and the POP account on her main computer
>> downloads messages from the server (as it has been set to do).
>> 
>> I currently have 15 email accounts set-up in my email client on my computer
>> and ALL are POP - so I would prefer to just keep everything the same.
>> However Mail on IOS on the iPhones just automatically sets the internode
>> accounts to IMAP and does not let me select POP.
>> 
>> 
>> So I seem to have a hybrid IMAP/POP set-up - which just seems wrong!
>> However, it all seems to work OK!
>> 
>> 
>> Any comments? Am I likely to run into any problems with this set-up?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Rob Phillips]

Hi Pete
I think the problem might be in trying to use the same email address.

A possible way forward is (with lots of backups and care - including 
downloading recent emails onto a second device)


 * create a new email address - gmail - or even better a second westnet
   address associated with your account
 * try to create an IMAP account for this
 * Move your old messages into new new mailbox
 * try the disable/ enable thing again. Maybe you can change the server
   settings now.  Failing this, delete that old mailbox and create a
   new IMAP one.
 * Copy your old messages back.

I hope this helps
Rob

On 14/10/2015 7:55 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
Hi Rob, thanks for the suggestion. The process in Mail to go from POP 
to IMAP requires establishment of a new account, you;re unable to just 
change the server address as the Account Type (POP) is superior to 
that. Unfortunately I am unable to get past the first dialogue where 
entry of the account detail (Name, email address and password) are 
required before getting to selecting IMAP/POP and server details. That 
is the problem I have. I have altered the Name and password of the 
account from the disabled account detail (no point changing the email 
address as the old address is MY address) and still no joy. Might have 
to ring Apple or chat.


Thanks.

Pete.


- Original Message -
From:
wamug@wamug.org.au

To:
<wamug@wamug.org.au>
Cc:

Sent:
Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:09 +0800
Subject:
Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP


I use Thunderbird not Mail, but have you changed the mail server
address? It should be something like imap.westnet.com.au, instead
of pop.westnet.comau.

Hope this helps.
Rob

On 13/10/2015 8:13 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:

Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a
POP Mail account to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get
the same result as below here. Not able to Create a new
account as Mail simple re-enables the account I disabled.

Regards

Pete...


On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp
<petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my
westnet account from POP to IMAP. The text (in different
font) below is that from a previous thread on the topic
back in Feb 2014. I am running V8.2 Mail and OS X 10.10.5.
Maybe Mail is a little different now and the instructions
altered or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve made the
copy of Inbox and Sent items into temp folders “On My
MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my current
account. No problem to here.

Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other
Mail account”. This is where I am unsure. I used the same
account name, email address and password (as I am trying
to change to IMAP) as current account and once I select
Create, it simply enables the existing account which I
just disabled. Perhaps this is not unexpected. I tried a
different password and account name (same email address) -
same thing - re-enables the existing disabled account.

What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?

For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still
use it for this.

Regards

Pete.



Hi Laura,

I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@me.com 
<http://me.com/>> addresses, so hopefully
you receive at least one of them.

Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT:
To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on 
your Mac to
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

    How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your 
messages. You
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all 
your messages
to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet 
Message Access
Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on 
the mail
server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a 
POP account,
if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there 
will only be
there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your 
inbox. With
IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.

If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with 
inaccessible
messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most 
hosting companies
and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion 
requires that

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks for this Daniel, I'll give it a shot tonight.

Regards

Pete

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 4:02 PM, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete
> 
> When setting it up, after the first screen DON'T click Create.
> Hold down the Option Key. The button will change from "Create" To "Next". 
> Click on Next.
> Then the following screen will let you chose between POP or IMAP.
> 
> Once created and happy it's working, you can then "disable" your POP3 account 
> (which will save the email incase you have to go back).
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6
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>> On 13/10/2015, at 8:13 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail account 
>> to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as below here. 
>> Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables the account I 
>> disabled.
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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Rob, the issue is I want to retain my existing email address. To change that 
means a massive undertaking in alerting the many places where my email address 
is embedded - Apple store, wine sellers just to name a couple. So the point 
being I only want to change the account type but keep the rest unchanged.  
Daniel has chimed in with a suggestion which I will try tonight. I'll advise 
the group of success (hopefully).

Regards

Pete

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 2:54 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete
> I think the problem might be in trying to use the same email address.
> 
> A possible way forward is (with lots of backups and care - including 
> downloading recent emails onto a second device)
> create a new email address - gmail - or even better a second westnet address 
> associated with your account
> try to create an IMAP account for this
> Move your old messages into new new mailbox
> try the disable/ enable thing again. Maybe you can change the server settings 
> now.  Failing this, delete that old mailbox and create a new IMAP one.
> Copy your old messages back.
> I hope this helps
> Rob
> 
>> On 14/10/2015 7:55 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
>> Hi Rob, thanks for the suggestion. The process in Mail to go from POP to 
>> IMAP requires establishment of a new account,   you;re unable to just 
>> change the server address as the Account Type (POP) is superior to that. 
>> Unfortunately I am unable to get   past the first dialogue where entry 
>> of the account detail (Name, email address and password) are required before 
>> getting to selecting IMAP/POP and server details. That is the problem I 
>> have. I have altered the Name and password of the account from the disabled 
>> account detail (no point changing the email address as the old address is MY 
>> address) and still no joy. Might have to ring Apple or chat.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
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>> 
>> To:
>> <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:09 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> 
>> 
>> I use Thunderbird not Mail, but have you changed the mail server address? It 
>> should be something like imap.westnet.com.au, instead of pop.westnet.comau.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 13/10/2015 8:13 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
>> Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail account 
>> to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as below here. 
>> Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables the account I 
>> disabled. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete...
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet account 
>> from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that from a previous 
>> thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running V8.2 Mail and OS X 
>> 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and the instructions altered 
>> or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve made the copy of Inbox and Sent 
>> items into temp folders “On My MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my 
>> current account. No problem to here. 
>> 
>> Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail account”. This 
>> is where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email address and 
>> password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as current account and once I 
>> select Create, it simply enables the existing account which I just disabled. 
>> Perhaps this is not unexpected. I tried a different password and account 
>> name (same email address) - same thing - re-enables the existing disabled 
>> account.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?
>> 
>> For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@me.com> addresses, so 
>> hopefully 
>> you receive at least one of them.
>> Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: 
>> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac 
>> to 
>> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
>> 
>> How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. 
>> 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Pete

When setting it up, after the first screen DON'T click Create.
Hold down the Option Key. The button will change from "Create" To "Next". Click 
on Next.
Then the following screen will let you chose between POP or IMAP.

Once created and happy it's working, you can then "disable" your POP3 account 
(which will save the email incase you have to go back).

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 13/10/2015, at 8:13 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

> Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail account 
> to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as below here. 
> Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables the account I 
> disabled. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete...
> 
> 
>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet account 
>> from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that from a previous 
>> thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running V8.2 Mail and OS X 
>> 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and the instructions altered 
>> or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve made the copy of Inbox and Sent 
>> items into temp folders “On My MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my 
>> current account. No problem to here. 
>> 
>> Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail account”. This 
>> is where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email address and 
>> password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as current account and once I 
>> select Create, it simply enables the existing account which I just disabled. 
>> Perhaps this is not unexpected. I tried a different password and account 
>> name (same email address) - same thing - re-enables the existing disabled 
>> account.
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?
>> 
>> For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@
>> me.com
>> > addresses, so hopefully 
>> you receive at least one of them.
>> 
>> Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: 
>> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac 
>> to 
>> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
>> 
>> How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. 
>> You 
>> can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your 
>> messages 
>> to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message 
>> Access 
>> Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail 
>> server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP 
>> account, 
>> if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only 
>> be 
>> there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With 
>> IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.
>> 
>> If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with 
>> inaccessible 
>> messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting 
>> companies 
>> and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires 
>> that 
>> you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to make the 
>> switch safely:
>> 
>> 1. Check with your email host
>> 
>> If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s 
>> dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this is not 
>> available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with the 
>> IT 
>> department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as an 
>> IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side. 
>> If 
>> you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail account 
&g

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Neil Houghton]

ble button in my
>>> current account. No problem to here.
>>> 
>>> Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select ³Add other Mail account². This
>>> is where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email address and
>>> password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as current account and once I
>>> select Create, it simply enables the existing account which I just disabled.
>>> Perhaps this is not unexpected. I tried a different password and account
>>> name (same email address) - same thing - re-enables the existing disabled
>>> account.
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?
>>> 
>>> For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura,
>>> 
>>> I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@
>>> me.com
>>>> addresses, so hopefully
>>> you receive at least one of them.
>>> 
>>> Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT:
>>> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac
>>> to 
>>> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
>>> 
>>> How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>>> Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages.
>>> You 
>>> can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your
>>> messages 
>>> to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message
>>> Access 
>>> Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail
>>> server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP
>>> account, 
>>> if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only
>>> be 
>>> there; when you get back to your Mac, you won¹t see them in your inbox. With
>>> IMAP, they¹ll be on all your devices.
>>> 
>>> If you¹ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with
>>> inaccessible 
>>> messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting
>>> companies 
>>> and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires
>>> that 
>>> you take precautions so you don¹t lose any messages. Here¹s how to make the
>>> switch safely:
>>> 
>>> 1. Check with your email host
>>> 
>>> If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company¹s
>>> dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It¹s very rare that this is not
>>> available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with the
>>> IT 
>>> department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as an
>>> IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side.
>>> If 
>>> you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail account
>>> from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)
>>> 
>>> 2. Protect the message you¹ve already downloaded
>>> 
>>> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac
>>> to 
>>> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
>>> 
>>> IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail server. The problem is,
>>> this 
>>> means that any folders that are on your Mac may get overwritten, or deleted,
>>> if 
>>> you don¹t save their messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose
>>> Mailbox -> New Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new
>>> mailbox. Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you¹ve done this, move
>>> all 
>>> the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for your
>>> Sent 
>>> Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done, you can change
>>> the 
>>> settings for your email account.
>>> 
>>> 3. Find your IMAP settings
>>> 
>>> Either your hosting company, your IT department, or your email provider will
>>> provide the settings you need to switch your account over to IMAP. For
>>> example, 
>>> for Gmail, you will need to know the new Incoming Mail Server (
>>> imap.gmail.com
>>> ), 
>>> but your outgoing mail server won¹t change. In most cases, you will just
>>> need 
>>> to change the prefix in the Incoming Mail Server setting from pop to imap.
>>> Write these down. You'll n

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Rob Phillips]

Mac to
    a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your 
messages. You
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all 
your messages
to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet 
Message Access
Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on 
the mail
server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a 
POP account,
if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there 
will only be
there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your 
inbox. With
IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.

If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with 
inaccessible
messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most 
hosting companies
and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion 
requires that
you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to 
make the
switch safely:

1. Check with your email host

If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting 
company’s
dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this 
is not
available.) If you get email through your business or school, check 
with the IT
department. Find out what settings you will need to access your 
email as an
IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the 
server side. If
you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your 
Gmail account
from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)

2. Protect the message you’ve already downloaded

To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on 
your Mac to
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail server. The 
problem is, this
means that any folders that are on your Mac may get overwritten, or 
deleted, if
you don’t save their messages before making the switch. So, in 
Mail, choose
Mailbox -> New Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create 
a new
mailbox. Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done 
this, move all
the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same 
for your Sent
Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done, you 
can change the
settings for your email account.

3. Find your IMAP settings

Either your hosting company, your IT department, or your email 
provider will
provide the settings you need to switch your account over to IMAP. 
For example,
for Gmail, you will need to know the new Incoming Mail Server 
(imap.gmail.com <http://imap.gmail.com/>),
but your outgoing mail server won’t change. In most cases, you will 
just need
to change the prefix in the Incoming Mail Server setting from pop 
to imap.
Write these down. You'll need them in Step 5.

4. Disable your POP account

In Mail, choose Preferences -> Accounts, click on the name of your 
POP account,
then on Advanced, then uncheck Enable this account.

5. Create a new IMAP email account

In Mail, you can’t change an email account from POP to IMAP. 
Instead, you need
to create a new account.

Choose File -> Add Account, and enter the information that you 
obtained in step
3 above.

6. Check your email

If you entered the correct information, your new IMAP account 
should work right
away. You will see an Inbox folder that is on the email server. 
Copy the
messages you stored in your old inbox folder in step 2 to that 
folder, and they
will be copied to your email server, so they will now be accessible 
from all
your devices. Do the same for any sent messages or drafts.

Now that you have an IMAP account on your Mac, use the same 
settings to access
your messages on another Mac, or on your iOS device(s).  On your 
iPad or
iPhone, enter the necessary information in the Settings app, in the 
Mail,
Contacts, Calendars section.

If you create more folders to store messages you’ll see them on all 
your
devices. To do this, choose Mailbox -> New Mailbox, then in the 
popup menu at
the top of the dialog box, choose the name of your email account. 
The folder
will be created on your mail server, and any messages you store in 
that folder

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Rob Phillips]

I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP 
accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it.


Rob

On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:

Hi Pete, Hi Daniel,

I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the
thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be set
at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to be
set to match (ie use the same protocol).

Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we have
set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with these
accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No
problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so
occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will upgrade
the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth limitations.


Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up an
internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't really
use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers.


I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps
involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are set as
POP accounts and everything works fine (test emails to and from both mine &
Georgies accounts.


Now, here's where it gets confusing

Recently Georgie was getting (and due to get) quite a lot of emails with
large phoo files attached - so I suggested she use her internode email
address to avoid running into bandwidth/storage limitations on her personal
email accounts. She had forgotten that she had this account and it was only
configured on the computers so she asked me to set-up the account on her
iPhone - which I did - only to find that mail on IOS automatically set up an
IMAP account!

So now it seems that there is an IMAP account on the iPhone and POP accounts
on several computers all connecting to the same basic Internode email
account. All seem to work well and send and receive email OK.

The IMAP account leaves messages on the server (as you would expect). The
POP accounts on the secondary computers also leave messages on the server
(as they have been set to do) and the POP account on her main computer
downloads messages from the server (as it has been set to do).

I currently have 15 email accounts set-up in my email client on my computer
and ALL are POP - so I would prefer to just keep everything the same.
However Mail on IOS on the iPhones just automatically sets the internode
accounts to IMAP and does not let me select POP.


So I seem to have a hybrid IMAP/POP set-up - which just seems wrong!
However, it all seems to work OK!


Any comments? Am I likely to run into any problems with this set-up?


Cheers



Neil


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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

e re-enables the 
>>>> account I disabled. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Pete...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp < 
>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet account 
>>>> from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that from a 
>>>> previous thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running V8.2 Mail and 
>>>> OS X 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and the instructions 
>>>> altered or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve made the copy of Inbox 
>>>> and Sent items into temp folders “On My MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable 
>>>> button in my current account. No problem to here. 
>>>> 
>>>> Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail account”. This 
>>>> is where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email address and 
>>>> password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as current account and once I 
>>>> select Create, it simply enables the existing account which I just 
>>>> disabled. Perhaps this is not unexpected. I tried a different password and 
>>>> account name (same email address) - same thing - re-enables the existing 
>>>> disabled account.
>>>> 
>>>> What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?
>>>> 
>>>> For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Pete.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Laura,
>>>> 
>>>> I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@me.com <http://me.com/>> 
>>>> addresses, so hopefully 
>>>> you receive at least one of them.
>>>> Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: 
>>>> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your 
>>>> Mac to 
>>>> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
>>>> 
>>>> How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>>>> Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. 
>>>> You 
>>>> can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your 
>>>> messages 
>>>> to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message 
>>>> Access 
>>>> Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail 
>>>> server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP 
>>>> account, 
>>>> if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only 
>>>> be 
>>>> there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. 
>>>> With 
>>>> IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.
>>>> 
>>>> If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with 
>>>> inaccessible 
>>>> messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting 
>>>> companies 
>>>> and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires 
>>>> that 
>>>> you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to make 
>>>> the 
>>>> switch safely:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Check with your email host
>>>> 
>>>> If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s 
>>>> dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this is not 
>>>> available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with 
>>>> the IT 
>>>> department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as 
>>>> an 
>>>> IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side. 
>>>> If 
>>>> you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail 
>>>> account 
>>>> from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Protect the message you’ve already downloaded
>>>> 
>>>> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your 
>>>> Mac to 
>>>> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
>>>> 
>>>&

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Neil Houghton]

Well, actually, that is how I want it to work.

With all the POP accounts the main computer downloads the emails from the
server. Any emails to be kept are then on the main computer for further
reference.

If away from the main computer, emails can be checked on the other computers
(laptop & a desktop in Perth) but, by default, these POP accounts are set to
leave the emails on the server - to be later downloaded by the main
computer.

Stuff that I would delete anyway can be manually "deleted from server" after
reading so that minimises the crap downloaded when I/we get back to our main
computers.

That set-up has been working fine for us for years.


It was just the iPhone forcing an IMAP configuration on us that was new (and
only for the internode email accounts) - so it was the mixing of IMAP and
POP on the same email address that was the worry.

However, it seems to work - the iPhone with an IMAP account seems to work
pretty much like a POP account set to leave email on the server.


Thanks for your thoughts on this.


Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com






on 14/10/15 21:40, Rob Phillips at r.phill...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP
> accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it.
> 
> Rob
> 
> On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> Hi Pete, Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the
>> thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be set
>> at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to be
>> set to match (ie use the same protocol).
>> 
>> Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we have
>> set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with these
>> accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No
>> problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so
>> occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will upgrade
>> the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth limitations.
>> 
>> 
>> Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up an
>> internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't really
>> use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers.
>> 
>> 
>> I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps
>> involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are set as
>> POP accounts and everything works fine (test emails to and from both mine &
>> Georgies accounts.
>> 
>> 
>> Now, here's where it gets confusing
>> 
>> Recently Georgie was getting (and due to get) quite a lot of emails with
>> large phoo files attached - so I suggested she use her internode email
>> address to avoid running into bandwidth/storage limitations on her personal
>> email accounts. She had forgotten that she had this account and it was only
>> configured on the computers so she asked me to set-up the account on her
>> iPhone - which I did - only to find that mail on IOS automatically set up an
>> IMAP account!
>> 
>> So now it seems that there is an IMAP account on the iPhone and POP accounts
>> on several computers all connecting to the same basic Internode email
>> account. All seem to work well and send and receive email OK.
>> 
>> The IMAP account leaves messages on the server (as you would expect). The
>> POP accounts on the secondary computers also leave messages on the server
>> (as they have been set to do) and the POP account on her main computer
>> downloads messages from the server (as it has been set to do).
>> 
>> I currently have 15 email accounts set-up in my email client on my computer
>> and ALL are POP - so I would prefer to just keep everything the same.
>> However Mail on IOS on the iPhones just automatically sets the internode
>> accounts to IMAP and does not let me select POP.
>> 
>> 
>> So I seem to have a hybrid IMAP/POP set-up - which just seems wrong!
>> However, it all seems to work OK!
>> 
>> 
>> Any comments? Am I likely to run into any problems with this set-up?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil


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[Rob Phillips]

I use Thunderbird not Mail, but have you changed the mail server 
address? It should be something like imap.westnet.com.au, instead of 
pop.westnet.com.au.


Hope this helps.
Rob

On 13/10/2015 8:13 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail 
account to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as 
below here. Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables 
the account I disabled.


Regards

Pete...


On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
<mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:


Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet 
account from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that 
from a previous thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running 
V8.2 Mail and OS X 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and 
the instructions altered or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve 
made the copy of Inbox and Sent items into temp folders “On My MAC”. 
Then I uncheck the Enable button in my current account. No problem to 
here.


Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail account”. 
This is where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email 
address and password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as current 
account and once I select Create, it simply enables the existing 
account which I just disabled. Perhaps this is not unexpected. I 
tried a different password and account name (same email address) - 
same thing - re-enables the existing disabled account.


What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?

For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.

Regards

Pete.



Hi Laura,

I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@me.com <http://me.com/>> 
addresses, so hopefully
you receive at least one of them.
Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT:
To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac to
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. You
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your messages
to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message Access
Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail
server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP account,
if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only be
there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With
IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.

If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with inaccessible
messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting companies
and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires that
you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to make the
switch safely:

1. Check with your email host

If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s
dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this is not
available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with the IT
department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as an
IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side. If
you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail account
from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)

2. Protect the message you’ve already downloaded

To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac to
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail server. The problem is, this
means that any folders that are on your Mac may get overwritten, or deleted, if
you don’t save their messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose
Mailbox -> New Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new
mailbox. Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done this, move all
the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for your Sent
Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done, you can change the
settings for your email account.

3. Find your IMAP settings

Either your hosting company, your IT department, or your email provider will
provide the settings you need to switch your account over to IMAP. For example,
for Gmail, you will need to know the new Incoming Mail Server (imap.gmail.com 
<http://imap.gmail.com/>),
but your outgoing mail server won’t change. In most cases, you will just need
to change the prefix in the Incoming Mail Server setting from pop to imap.
Write these down. You'll need them in Step 5.

4. Disable your POP account

In Mail, choose Preferences -> Accounts, click on the name of your POP account,
then on Advanced, then uncheck Enable this account.

5. Create a new IMAP email 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail account to 
an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as below here. Not 
able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables the account I disabled. 

Regards

Pete...


> On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet account 
> from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that from a previous 
> thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running V8.2 Mail and OS X 
> 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and the instructions altered or 
> maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve made the copy of Inbox and Sent items 
> into temp folders “On My MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my current 
> account. No problem to here. 
> 
> Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail account”. This is 
> where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email address and password 
> (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as current account and once I select 
> Create, it simply enables the existing account which I just disabled. Perhaps 
> this is not unexpected. I tried a different password and account name (same 
> email address) - same thing - re-enables the existing disabled account.
> 
> What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?
> 
> For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Laura,
> 
> I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@me.com <http://me.com/>> 
> addresses, so hopefully 
> you receive at least one of them.
> Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: 
> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac 
> to 
> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
> 
> How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
> Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. 
> You 
> can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your 
> messages 
> to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message 
> Access 
> Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail 
> server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP 
> account, 
> if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only be 
> there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With 
> IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.
> 
> If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with 
> inaccessible 
> messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting 
> companies 
> and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires 
> that 
> you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to make the 
> switch safely:
> 
> 1. Check with your email host
> 
> If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s 
> dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this is not 
> available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with the 
> IT 
> department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as an 
> IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side. If 
> you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail account 
> from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)
> 
> 2. Protect the message you’ve already downloaded
> 
> To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac 
> to 
> a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.
> 
> IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail server. The problem is, 
> this 
> means that any folders that are on your Mac may get overwritten, or deleted, 
> if 
> you don’t save their messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose 
> Mailbox -> New Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new 
> mailbox. Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done this, move all 
> the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for your 
> Sent 
> Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done, you can change 
> the 
> settings for your email account.
> 
> 3. Find your IMAP settings
> 
> Either your hosting company, your IT department, or your email provider will 
> provide the settings you need to switch your account over to IMAP. For 
> example, 
> for Gmail, you will need to know the new Incoming Mail Server (imap.gmail.com 
> <http://imap.gmail.com/>), 
> but your outgoing mail server won’t change. In most cases, you will just need 
> to change the prefix in the Incoming Ma

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[petercrisp]

Hi Rob, thanks for the suggestion. The process in Mail to go from POP
to IMAP requires establishment of a new account, you;re unable to just
change the server address as the Account Type (POP) is superior to
that. Unfortunately I am unable to get past the first dialogue where
entry of the account detail (Name, email address and password) are
required before getting to selecting IMAP/POP and server details. That
is the problem I have. I have altered the Name and password of the
account from the disabled account detail (no point changing the email
address as the old address is MY address) and still no joy. Might have
to ring Apple or chat.
Thanks.
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:09 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

I use Thunderbird not Mail, but have you changed the mail server
address? It should be something like imap.westnet.com.au, instead of
pop.westnet.com.au.

 Hope this helps.
 Rob

 On 13/10/2015 8:13 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
  Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail
account to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as
below here. Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables
the account I disabled.  
 Regards 
 Pete... 

  On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp <
[1]petercr...@westnet.com.au [2]> wrote: 
  Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet
account from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that
from a previous thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running
V8.2 Mail and OS X 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and
the instructions altered or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve
made the copy of Inbox and Sent items into temp folders “On My
MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my current account. No
problem to here.  
 Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail
account”. This is where I am unsure. I used the same account name,
email address and password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as
current account and once I select Create, it simply enables the
existing account which I just disabled. Perhaps this is not
unexpected. I tried a different password and account name (same email
address) - same thing - re-enables the existing disabled account. 
 What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2? 
 For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for
this. 
 Regards 
 Pete. 

Hi Laura, I have cc'd your iinet & Laura Webb  addresses, so
hopefully you receive at least one of them. 

Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: To avoid any potential disasters, save all
the messages you have on your Mac to a different mailbox before you
convert to IMAP. How to convert a POP email account to IMAP Most email
providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. You
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your
messages to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP
(Internet Message Access Protocol) account that leaves some or all of
your messages up on the mail server so you can access them from any
device. For example, with a POP account, if you check email on your
iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only be there; when you get
back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With IMAP,
they’ll be on all your devices. If you’ve been using a POP
account, but have grown frustrated with inaccessible messages, you can
usually convert your account to IMAP Most hosting companies and
providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires
that you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s
how to make the switch safely: 1. Check with your email host If you
manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s
dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this
is not available.) If you get email through your business or school,
check with the IT department. Find out what settings you will need to
access your email as an IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be
changed on the server side. If you use Gmail, this help page will tell
you how to change your Gmail account from POP to IMAP. (You have to
enable IMAP on the Gmail website.) 2. Protect the message you’ve
already downloaded To avoid any potential disasters, save all the
messages you have on your Mac to a different mailbox before you
convert to IMAP. IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail
server. The problem is, this means that any folders that are on your
Mac may get overwritten, or deleted, if you don’t save their
messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose Mailbox -> New
Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new mailbox.
Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done this, move all
the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for
your Sent Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done

How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet account from 
POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that from a previous thread 
on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running V8.2 Mail and OS X 10.10.5. Maybe 
Mail is a little different now and the instructions altered or maybe I am doing 
something wrong. I’ve made the copy of Inbox and Sent items into temp folders 
“On My MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my current account. No problem 
to here. 

Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail account”. This is 
where I am unsure. I used the same account name, email address and password (as 
I am trying to change to IMAP) as current account and once I select Create, it 
simply enables the existing account which I just disabled. Perhaps this is not 
unexpected. I tried a different password and account name (same email address) 
- same thing - re-enables the existing disabled account.

What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2?

For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for this.

Regards

Pete.



Hi Laura,

I have cc'd your iinet &  Laura Webb <elja...@me.com> addresses, so hopefully 
you receive at least one of them.
Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: 
To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac to 
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. You 
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your messages 
to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message Access 
Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail 
server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP account, 
if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only be 
there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With 
IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.

If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with inaccessible 
messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting companies 
and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires that 
you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to make the 
switch safely:

1. Check with your email host

If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s 
dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this is not 
available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with the IT 
department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as an 
IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side. If 
you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail account 
from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)

2. Protect the message you’ve already downloaded

To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac to 
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail server. The problem is, this 
means that any folders that are on your Mac may get overwritten, or deleted, if 
you don’t save their messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose 
Mailbox -> New Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new 
mailbox. Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done this, move all 
the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for your Sent 
Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done, you can change the 
settings for your email account.

3. Find your IMAP settings

Either your hosting company, your IT department, or your email provider will 
provide the settings you need to switch your account over to IMAP. For example, 
for Gmail, you will need to know the new Incoming Mail Server (imap.gmail.com), 
but your outgoing mail server won’t change. In most cases, you will just need 
to change the prefix in the Incoming Mail Server setting from pop to imap. 
Write these down. You'll need them in Step 5.

4. Disable your POP account

In Mail, choose Preferences -> Accounts, click on the name of your POP account, 
then on Advanced, then uncheck Enable this account.

5. Create a new IMAP email account

In Mail, you can’t change an email account from POP to IMAP. Instead, you need 
to create a new account. 

Choose File -> Add Account, and enter the information that you obtained in step 
3 above.

6. Check your email

If you entered the correct information, your new IMAP account should work right 
away. You will see an Inbox folder that is on the email server. Copy the 
messages you stored in your old inbox folder in step 2 to that folder, and they 
will be copied to your email server, so they will now be accessible from all 
your devices. Do the same for any sent messages or drafts.

Now that you have an IMAP ac

How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Laura,

I have cc'd your iinet   Laura Webb elja...@me.com addresses, so hopefully 
you receive at least one of them.

Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: 
To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac to 
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
Most email providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. You 
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your messages 
to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP (Internet Message Access 
Protocol) account that leaves some or all of your messages up on the mail 
server so you can access them from any device. For example, with a POP account, 
if you check email on your iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only be 
there; when you get back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With 
IMAP, they’ll be on all your devices.

If you’ve been using a POP account, but have grown frustrated with inaccessible 
messages, you can usually convert your account to IMAP. Most hosting companies 
and providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires that 
you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s how to make the 
switch safely:

1. Check with your email host

If you manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s 
dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this is not 
available.) If you get email through your business or school, check with the IT 
department. Find out what settings you will need to access your email as an 
IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be changed on the server side. If 
you use Gmail, this help page will tell you how to change your Gmail account 
from POP to IMAP. (You have to enable IMAP on the Gmail website.)

2. Protect the message you’ve already downloaded

To avoid any potential disasters, save all the messages you have on your Mac to 
a different mailbox before you convert to IMAP.

IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail server. The problem is, this 
means that any folders that are on your Mac may get overwritten, or deleted, if 
you don’t save their messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose 
Mailbox - New Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new 
mailbox. Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done this, move all 
the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for your Sent 
Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done, you can change the 
settings for your email account.

3. Find your IMAP settings

Either your hosting company, your IT department, or your email provider will 
provide the settings you need to switch your account over to IMAP. For example, 
for Gmail, you will need to know the new Incoming Mail Server (imap.gmail.com), 
but your outgoing mail server won’t change. In most cases, you will just need 
to change the prefix in the Incoming Mail Server setting from pop to imap. 
Write these down. You'll need them in Step 5.

4. Disable your POP account

In Mail, choose Preferences - Accounts, click on the name of your POP account, 
then on Advanced, then uncheck Enable this account.

5. Create a new IMAP email account

In Mail, you can’t change an email account from POP to IMAP. Instead, you need 
to create a new account. 

Choose File - Add Account, and enter the information that you obtained in step 
3 above.

6. Check your email

If you entered the correct information, your new IMAP account should work right 
away. You will see an Inbox folder that is on the email server. Copy the 
messages you stored in your old inbox folder in step 2 to that folder, and they 
will be copied to your email server, so they will now be accessible from all 
your devices. Do the same for any sent messages or drafts.

Now that you have an IMAP account on your Mac, use the same settings to access 
your messages on another Mac, or on your iOS device(s).  On your iPad or 
iPhone, enter the necessary information in the Settings app, in the Mail, 
Contacts, Calendars section.

If you create more folders to store messages you’ll see them on all your 
devices. To do this, choose Mailbox - New Mailbox, then in the popup menu at 
the top of the dialog box, choose the name of your email account. The folder 
will be created on your mail server, and any messages you store in that folder 
will sync to all your devices.

IMAP is much better for managing email across multiple devices. Change your old 
POP accounts to IMAP now so you can have access to your email at all times.



Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.1 Mavericks
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