Re: [WISPA] Hmm.. Mikrotik or Cisco...
"is it worth learning and paying the 12x the price for less throughput?" - No If there is something you gain by using the Cisco (all your staff understands Cisco better than MikroTik, the Cisco is more stable, the Cisco offers a featureset you can't get on the MikroTik) then you should do it. But if it comes down to the fact that it has a Cisco label on it (which is all it sounds like it would be for you right now) then I wouldn't bother, personally. On 6/30/2017 12:46 PM, David Jones wrote: Good morning. I have a deep question for the Mikrotik people and the Cisco people. Let me give you an overview of where we are. Currently we have all of our tower sites using Mikrotik connecting to our core with MPLS/VPLS to our core that is multiple Mikrotik routers using VRRP (I had a core die from power supply failure and our network didn't skip a beet while it was replaced.) The VRRP core then connects to our edge that is a Cisco ASR1001-x that connects to our BGP peers. The reason we went with Cisco was because all the CCR Mikrotik Lagged horribly when doing BGP full tables. We had a Maxxwave router that did fine with the BGP but had crap interface support with Mikrotik not having good drivers for the interfaces. Different MTU for the MPLS caused problems. It appears that now with Mikrotik's CHR fixes the driver problems. the Virtual host deals with the drivers so Mikrotik doesn't have to. All has been fine for a few years... but now the Cisco has reset itself twice in the past week. For whatever reason a reboot on a Cisco = 15-20min down time. We are now needing a VRRP solution for the Edge. So here is the cross roads... Do we get another ASR1001-x and struggle for a while to get a form of VRRP to work between them? Or do we get something like this (https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-SuperServer-5018D-FN8T-Rackmount-10GbE/dp/B01LXUATHB <https://www.amazon.com/Supermicro-SuperServer-5018D-FN8T-Rackmount-10GbE/dp/B01LXUATHB>) and keep it all Mikrotik for ease of training and use? We do not have much experience with Cisco. It takes us quite a bit to configure and change them. is it worth learning and paying the 12x the price for less throughput? Cisco ASR 1001 2.5gbps throughput = $6,680 Cisco Licence for 10gbps throughput = $13,099 Total for 1 Cisco router + Repair of current + 1 Spare = $41,558 vs Mikrotik Supermicro SuperServer 5018D-FN8T + 16G mem + SSD = $986 CHR 10Gbps upload per interface = $95 Total for 2 routers + 1 spare = $3,243 Is Cisco still the better option? would it be better to say use 3 MK routers in VRRP with one spare so 2 can fail and not be a problem? -- David Jones NGL Connection 307-288-5491 ext 702 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Email: simon@sonar.software Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA --- Sonar Software Inc The future of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
a.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless> ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Email: simon@sonar.software Phone: (702) 447-1247 --- Sonar Software Inc The future of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Procera for DDOS mititgation
I've installed one expressly for this purpose (although, we had planned to use it for other things as well.) Works pretty well, as long as you have a big enough pipe to weather the attack. On 1/26/2017 3:00 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone using Procera to mitigate DDOS events? *//* */Gino Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Email: simon@sonar.software Phone: (702) 447-1247 --- Sonar Software Inc The future of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Tech raises
When I was at TWC, it was 0-5% unless you changed positions. It's an easy system. I think in a small business, it's better to have a more flexible reward scheme for really valued employees, as it makes it much more likely they will continue to give 110% and continue to help improve the business, which is a net positive for everyone. If they don't do that already... 0-5% is easy. On 01/09/2015 02:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What kind of raises is everyone else going? Primarily looking at service call/installer/tower hand guy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] When the power goes off
PagerDuty.com and Pingdom. Use Pingdom to ping the server, have it create an incident in PagerDuty when that happens. PagerDuty will call your phone. Will cost you $18 a month. On 11/10/2014 09:20 AM, OOLLC-Support wrote: Does anyone have a simple solution for when the circuit-breaker gets kicked? I would very much like to have the system call me on the phone to let me know when the server has lost power. Does anyone have a cheap way to solve this? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] When the power goes off
That's why we use PagerDuty. Supports escalations as well, if the guy really does sleep through a constantly ringing phone for 30 minutes. On 11/10/2014 01:43 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Techs can sleep through a txt message though. A little more difficult to sleep through a phone call but I do know it happens. On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Screw a phone c all, but text is simple! Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net mailto:den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2014 10:38 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] When the power goes off He wants a phone call... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Tim Way t...@way.vg mailto:t...@way.vg wrote: Using a UPS that maintains Internet access it can be setup to send an SNMP trap that a monitoring system (ZenOSS/SolarWinss/etc) can generate an EMAIL or text message from. On Nov 10, 2014 9:21 AM, OOLLC-Support supp...@oregononline.net mailto:supp...@oregononline.net wrote: Does anyone have a simple solution for when the circuit-breaker gets kicked? I would very much like to have the system call me on the phone to let me know when the server has lost power. Does anyone have a cheap way to solve this? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ __ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
Heith, We are the major reseller of Procera gear into the WISP market. I'll check in with Procera and see what happened, but we can help you out if you need an eval! On 10/23/2014 9:28 PM, heith wrote: Thanks for the input. Didn’t try power code, I don’t use their service, but I guess that doesn’t matter. But still a small little email back would be awesome! Anyways! *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:46 PM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product We have been talking to powercode this week. Simon is out of the country on business, but he said he will get back to us early next week on our quotes. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/23/2014 04:44 PM, RanchBoss wrote: Did you try Powercode? They sell the Procera Device. Sent from my Ranch Phone On Oct 23, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Bill Schoolfieldb...@billmax.com mailto:b...@billmax.com wrote: I've had no luck reaching them as well. Bill On 10/23/2014 7:36 PM, heith wrote: So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar functions that may be more cost effective? I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some actual users of their product or other similar products. Thanks Heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
One problem is maintaining the signatures. Building a box to do DPI is not an insurmountable software challenge. Maintaining 5000+ signatures is pretty tricky. They are some open source DPI signatures out there, but they are nowhere near as fully featured as the commercial boxes. The other problem is scaling - most of these units use some kind of hardware acceleration to be able to examine each packet in real time without any latency being introduced. There are some existing, licensed solutions to this problem (e.g. 6WIND) but it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, and requires specific Intel hardware today. On 10/24/2014 6:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a couple of what seem to be similar products available: Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so they live up to their name :) ) Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long time ago we used this Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware running on an open source operating system with custom code could fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself. Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net mailto:lwei...@excel.net) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free *From: *Dave Barker d...@broadlincwireless.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product Back to the original question, is there anything else out there that does what Procera can do? On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com mailto:asteph...@ptera.com wrote: I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using their web based support system. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com http://ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc http://facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera http://twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote: So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar functions that may be more cost effective? I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some actual users of their product or other similar products. Thanks Heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com
Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
. No event logs for the account on this. I upgraded last Tuesday. Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working. On 9/26 I personally did a manual card charge successfully. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Adair Winter VP of Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 tel:806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 tel:806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wirel...@wispa..org Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:13 PM Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments. I'm not sure if automatic will work in the morning. I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their released version). After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a blank page. No event logs for the account on this. I upgraded last Tuesday. Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working. On 9/26 I personally did a manual card charge successfully. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Adair Winter VP of Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 tel:806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 tel:806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Adair Winter VP of Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
I'll pull the ticket shortly and look at it. On 9/29/2014 9:40 AM, Adair Winter wrote: Just tested, still doesn't work. I'll wait for someone to get back with me. I think we opened two tickets on the issue (by accident). On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Those errors won't cause any problems, none of them are critical. Not that they shouldn't be fixed.. but they don't indicate any issue related to the payment problem you are/were experiencing. On 9/29/2014 9:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote: [root@powercode ~]# apachectl -k graceful Warning: DocumentRoot [/var/www/qbwc] does not exist httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for powercode.amarillowireless.net http://powercode.amarillowireless.net httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName I maybe needed additional arguments. not going to fool with it anymore and let the people who should actually be messing with it, fix it. :) On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. What errors did you get? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 10:25 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some errors. you? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it. They said it's due to a blank result from IPPay. Couldn't get an answer as to why we couldn't see an error instead of a blank page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Not sure why bash would be relevant at all. I would be extremely disappointed if it was involved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Yesreread your message. Should have read it closer. Looks like the problem is related to the yum patch...assuming you did it ? Our auto transactions are workingprobably won't take another manual until tomorrow but appreciate the heads up there may be an issue. I'll alert the staff.. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM 10.03.09? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Fyi...I can confirm we have taken manual payments on 10.03.09. In factI have confirmed two of us in our company took payments on Friday manually on two different computers in two different locations and had no problems... Sent from my Verizon
Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Looks like this was a DNS problem, it had nothing to do with the 10.03.09 update. I'm not sure if the IP of the IPPay gateway changed, but restarting Apache (service httpd restart) will flush the cache Apache uses and force an update. If it still doesn't work after that, let me know. Most of the tickets we've seen over the weekend on this have been solved by a server reboot (which accomplishes the same thing.) I don't know exactly what happened/changed yet, but that's what I have so far. Anyone who is still having this, please make sure you are opening a ticket on it with us (supp...@powercode.com / 920-351-1010) and not just posting here.. I want to make sure you get assistance. On 9/29/2014 9:48 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: I'll pull the ticket shortly and look at it. On 9/29/2014 9:40 AM, Adair Winter wrote: Just tested, still doesn't work. I'll wait for someone to get back with me. I think we opened two tickets on the issue (by accident). On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Those errors won't cause any problems, none of them are critical. Not that they shouldn't be fixed.. but they don't indicate any issue related to the payment problem you are/were experiencing. On 9/29/2014 9:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote: [root@powercode ~]# apachectl -k graceful Warning: DocumentRoot [/var/www/qbwc] does not exist httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for powercode.amarillowireless.net http://powercode.amarillowireless.net httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName I maybe needed additional arguments. not going to fool with it anymore and let the people who should actually be messing with it, fix it. :) On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. What errors did you get? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 10:25 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some errors. you? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it. They said it's due to a blank result from IPPay. Couldn't get an answer as to why we couldn't see an error instead of a blank page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Not sure why bash would be relevant at all. I would be extremely disappointed if it was involved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Yesreread your message. Should have read it closer. Looks like the problem is related to the yum patch...assuming you did it ? Our auto transactions are workingprobably won't take another manual until tomorrow but appreciate the heads up there may be an issue. I'll alert the staff.. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM 10.03.09? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552
Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
This would only affect manual payments, automatic payments are not run through the web server. But sure, it couldn't hurt. On 9/29/2014 10:40 AM, Kameron Blomquist wrote: I wonder if I should just restart now since I won't know if I have issues until the 1st *Kameron B.* *SightLine Wireless* *(503) 967-7222* *www.sightlinewireless.com http://www.sightlinewireless.com* On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So can you make an error page if it failed to reach Ippay instead of a blank page? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 11:11 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Looks like this was a DNS problem, it had nothing to do with the 10.03.09 update. I'm not sure if the IP of the IPPay gateway changed, but restarting Apache (service httpd restart) will flush the cache Apache uses and force an update. If it still doesn't work after that, let me know. Most of the tickets we've seen over the weekend on this have been solved by a server reboot (which accomplishes the same thing.) I don't know exactly what happened/changed yet, but that's what I have so far. Anyone who is still having this, please make sure you are opening a ticket on it with us (supp...@powercode.com mailto:supp...@powercode.com / 920-351-1010 tel:920-351-1010) and not just posting here.. I want to make sure you get assistance. On 9/29/2014 9:48 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: I'll pull the ticket shortly and look at it. On 9/29/2014 9:40 AM, Adair Winter wrote: Just tested, still doesn't work. I'll wait for someone to get back with me. I think we opened two tickets on the issue (by accident). On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Those errors won't cause any problems, none of them are critical. Not that they shouldn't be fixed.. but they don't indicate any issue related to the payment problem you are/were experiencing. On 9/29/2014 9:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote: [root@powercode ~]# apachectl -k graceful Warning: DocumentRoot [/var/www/qbwc] does not exist httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for powercode.amarillowireless.net http://powercode.amarillowireless.net httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName I maybe needed additional arguments. not going to fool with it anymore and let the people who should actually be messing with it, fix it. :) On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. What errors did you get? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 10:25 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some errors. you? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it. They said it's due to a blank result from IPPay. Couldn't get an answer as to why we couldn't see an error instead of a blank page. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Not sure why bash would be relevant at all. I would be extremely disappointed if it was involved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct
Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Pretty sure this problem is solved for everyone now and it has mostly appeared to be DNS related so far. I am leaving for a trade show in the morning, so please make sure you reach out to our support desk (or restart your web service) if you're still having issues, as I won't be monitoring this list so closely! On 9/29/2014 10:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Couldn't hurt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 11:41 AM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.com mailto:kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: I wonder if I should just restart now since I won't know if I have issues until the 1st *Kameron B.* *SightLine Wireless* *(503) 967-7222 tel:%28503%29%20967-7222* *www.sightlinewireless.com http://www.sightlinewireless.com* On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So can you make an error page if it failed to reach Ippay instead of a blank page? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 11:11 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Looks like this was a DNS problem, it had nothing to do with the 10.03.09 update. I'm not sure if the IP of the IPPay gateway changed, but restarting Apache (service httpd restart) will flush the cache Apache uses and force an update. If it still doesn't work after that, let me know. Most of the tickets we've seen over the weekend on this have been solved by a server reboot (which accomplishes the same thing.) I don't know exactly what happened/changed yet, but that's what I have so far. Anyone who is still having this, please make sure you are opening a ticket on it with us (supp...@powercode.com mailto:supp...@powercode.com / 920-351-1010 tel:920-351-1010) and not just posting here.. I want to make sure you get assistance. On 9/29/2014 9:48 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: I'll pull the ticket shortly and look at it. On 9/29/2014 9:40 AM, Adair Winter wrote: Just tested, still doesn't work. I'll wait for someone to get back with me. I think we opened two tickets on the issue (by accident). On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Those errors won't cause any problems, none of them are critical. Not that they shouldn't be fixed.. but they don't indicate any issue related to the payment problem you are/were experiencing. On 9/29/2014 9:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote: [root@powercode ~]# apachectl -k graceful Warning: DocumentRoot [/var/www/qbwc] does not exist httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for powercode.amarillowireless.net http://powercode.amarillowireless.net httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName I maybe needed additional arguments. not going to fool with it anymore and let the people who should actually be messing with it, fix it. :) On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No. What errors did you get? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 29, 2014 10:25 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some errors. you? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it. They said it's due to a blank result from IPPay. Couldn't get an answer as to why we couldn't see an error instead
Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software
Yes, that is more correct. Also, lots of McDonald's coffee and some Red Bull. On 8/18/2014 10:09 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Primarily Rockstar actually. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 18, 2014 11:02 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com mailto:g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Powercode isn't organic It's grown with the use of NOS, Redbull, Monster etc. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Grown without the use of artificial pesticides? :) *From*: Brian Wilson br...@wildsong.biz mailto:br...@wildsong.biz *Sent*: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:37 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software Our current billing system is home grown. Completely organic. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: As do most of the other billing systems that are WISPA members. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software
Grown without the use of artificial pesticides? :) From: Brian Wilson br...@wildsong.biz Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software Our current billing system is home grown. Completely organic.On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:As do most of the other billing systems that are WISPA members. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?
We pass it on and do nothing else. Unless we get a subpoena, we simply inform the customer we received the complaint, that the action is against our policy and that they should contact the complainant if they have any questions. We can't prove or disprove the complaint and have no desire to get into a legal or moral discussion with a customer about what they're doing. On 8/14/2014 9:48 AM, Russ Van Vlack wrote: WISPA Colleagues, We are fighting the neverending battle of dealing with the IP-Echelon notices of copyright infringement and need a more firm policy in place. Our acceptable use policy and account terms and conditions clearly state that these actions are illegal and/or against company policy, however we do not have a firm course of action in place in dealing with customers in violation. Would anyone be willing to share what their company policy is in regards to these notices? Especially, if you do anything further than passing the notice on to the customer? Thanks. --Russell Van Vlack ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Easiest time clock for part timers
uattend.com Cheap, apps for iPhone/Android, web client On 6/23/2014 10:58 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Does anyone have a quick and easy product for a time clock? We're doing it by hand now and it feels like too much time is being wasted. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake *Powercode* - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS powercode.com http://powercode.com P: 920-351-1010 E: si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OID
Not sure if they have a custom one, but in the Ethernet MIB, it is usually IfInUcastPackets/ifOutUcastPackets On 4/17/2014 7:38 AM, Matt Brendle wrote: So, does anybody know OID for PPS in UBNT and Mikrotik? I have walked them but can't figure out what would be PPS. Matt Brendle ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake (920) 351-1010 si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OID
It is, there is unlikely to be an actual 'PPS' OID. On 4/17/2014 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: That's total packet count. You have to math the per second. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2014 9:02 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Not sure if they have a custom one, but in the Ethernet MIB, it is usually IfInUcastPackets/ifOutUcastPackets On 4/17/2014 7:38 AM, Matt Brendle wrote: So, does anybody know OID for PPS in UBNT and Mikrotik? I have walked them but can't figure out what would be PPS. Matt Brendle ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake (920) 351-1010 tel:%28920%29%20351-1010 si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake (920) 351-1010 si...@powercode.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment
I have looked at Allot and Procera, IMO, Procera is far superior. From: Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment Will of sense do bandwidth management based on IP or username. -- Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe as technologies ltd. 234(0)8023258027 This e-mail and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information. Any use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachments for any purposes that have not been specifically authorized by the sender is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete all copies and attachments. The entire content of this e-mail is for information purposes only and should not be relied upon by the recipient in any way unless otherwise confirmed in writing by way of letter or email. On Dec 18, 2013 11:16 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: You can do the same thing for free using a pfsense box as a proxy server- Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves ty...@wigi.us wrote: We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks. The setup is called a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server. Its a bandwidth management solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to cache videos and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming movies. Any experiences with this equipment or information would be greatly appreciated from another wisp. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need a SIP Trunk for outbound TODAY
We also use Flowroute and they've always been good. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a SIP Trunk for outbound TODAY I am a big fan of flowroute On Dec 3, 2013 2:36 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: We are having issues with our current VOIP provider with outbound calls failing - I would like to add another outbound route to our switch so I can determine if it's their problem. Can anyone recommend a VOIP provider I where I can set up a trunk online or someone who can get me set up quickly. Vendors welcome to contact offlist. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New Xbox1 Constant Stream or Update
I don't know about the Xbox One specifically but I have read some of these new consoles have large (500MB+) day one updates. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Erik Anderson Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 8:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Xbox1 Constant Stream or Update I have seen new games require massive downloads. Thanks for the heads up. Have not seen an Xbox do this. Was it the new Xbox One? On 11/29/2013 9:37 AM, heith petersen wrote: I was working with a customer last Wednesday who was complaining about speeds. He is in an area that I am only able to offer 3 down 1.5 up. Anyways when I pulled his connection he was streaming the full 3 meg. I had him power off the XBox and it flat lined. Then he plugged it back in and without turning it on it acquired a wireless lease from the router and continued to pound the internet connection. I am just hoping that it was doing an update or something. Otherwise it could cripple a lot of links for some customers. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question
Jumbo frames are supported on that chipset in the latest Intel driver updates so it is definitely possible to get it working. I don't know about what is bundled into each Mikrotik update but I would imagine you will not have to swap out any hardware, just wait for them to bundle a newer Intel driver. Maybe it is in 6.x already. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 7:42 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question That is the chipset actually... so whats that mean exactly. You said no support in 5.x That doesn't mean I'm going to have to suffer with 6.1 does it I guess at least there is hope in future without swapping out a bunch of hardware once 6x is working good.. Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 http://www.flhsi.com/files/emaillogo.jpg _ From: can...@believewireless.net mailto:can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net mailto:p...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 6:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question Check the ethernet chipset, Make sure it isn't the Intel 82583V chipset. This won't support jumbo frames in v5.X. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: HI Scott, I bet you if you dropped a quick email with this question to Brian at Baltic networks you will get your answer. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz _ From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:07:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Maxxwave router MTU problem / question I know these are fairly popular routers so I was wondering if anyone has seen this issue before Mikrotik v5.24 or 5.25 - go to ethernet interface and open an interface, I can't increase the MTU size greater then the default 1500. Some of the Maxxwave routers I can. No rhyme or reason between them I can tell - some just allow the MTU change some don't. Not sure if this is MT fubar or some other issue with the device. Anyone? Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] Complete list of WISP used billing products
Ran into a few people using UberSmith UTM5 Emerald Antamedia From: a...@afmug.com [mailto:a...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:17 PM To: a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Complete list of WISP used billing products I'm looking to put a complete list together. Does anyone have any additional ideas? Powercode Platypus Billmax Wispmon BOSS (beta? released?) Azotel Freeside VISP Rodopi Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
For the moment, if you're doing enterprise managed services (the highest profit end of the ISP business, though a stretch for most WISPs), MPLS is the only game in town. You do it on a router that has it, or on a switch that has it. Enterprises use their own IP space (usually 10.x) and thus service providers have to stay at a lower layer. And you can't really do VoIP decently (full quality) without some kind of QoS-enabled shim below IP. If you're outside of the scope of a Carrier Ethernet VC, then you probably are using MPLS. There is MPLS for Linux, which presumably is what RouterOS uses, since they don't make their own sources available and they'd probably have to if they wrote it So I'm surprised that Vyatta hasn't bothered with it. Cisco is way too expensive. RouterOS boxes on big Intel iron are more capable, though RouterOS can be a bid dodgey at times (as can a lot of other systems). Fred, Which feature complete/stable MPLS implementation for Linux do you know of? I haven't seen any and I'd be interested to check it out. -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router
I don't know who is feature complete, or even what constitutes feature complete these days, given how MPLS is sort of a family of moving targets. I've looked around and seen a few different Linux projects, in various states of partial completion, some seeming to have happy users but no support and others still under way. It's typical Linux, where the GPL is supposed to make it easy to share but in practice everyone likes to write their own stuff, getting the easy 80% done but not taking the 80% of the time for the rest. But RouterOS got something out there, and if it's in the kernel, somebody should have made sources available. Not that MT has to say where it came from! (Or did they fit it into userland?) My understanding was that the MT implementation was closed source and, as Jeff said, either written in house or licensed from some third party. I don't know that for sure but, as I'm fairly sure there is no open source MPLS project out there that implements everything MT has, they have either done considerable work to complete all the missing features or wrote from scratch. I agree with you on the 80% statement but there are benchmark projects in Linux for most networking functionality (e.g. tc for rate limiting, iptables for firewall, quagga for dynamic routing) and I haven't found one of those for MPLS yet. -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
Mike, I completely agree and I think it is a goal the WISP industry needs to work towards - the provisioning of CPE is still a nightmare in comparison to DOCSIS. PPPoE is not a good solution, IMO - it's arguably better than nothing but you shouldn't have to rely on the customer supplied equipment being configured correctly to just auth to the network - that's the job of the ISP CPE. It's not even that hard of a problem to solve in the grand scheme of things. On 10/13/2012 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well yes it is, but I believe the cable industry has it setup the best. It's easy for the end user to BYOD and the ISP remains hand-off. The WISP industry makes it difficult to do so. Currently everything I do is NATed at the CPE, but I'd like to make that optional, not a requirement. Obviously for enterprise\wholesale level connections I do something different, but there's too many hands involved to do that for residential at this time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:51:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion... For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for provisioning the radio..It currently shows it to be on their todo list. As for your other item, I believe DHCP relay is built into the new firmware . As far as NAT is concerned, it has it's place. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 10/12/2012 10:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I want to see the removal of doing anything other than DHCP to the client's device. The CPE radio pulls it's rate-shaping information from RADIUS and allows any number of DHCP clients on a per-CPE basis to pull a public IP. An ISP doing NAT is just silly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:16:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE. On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any good reason to NAT there. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be double natted when they hook up their routers? Or does it not matter from the customer experience? Thanks ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
What builds security? On 10/19/2012 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It does build a security, though. Security = 1/convenience*0.72 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Mike, I completely agree and I think it is a goal the WISP industry needs to work towards - the provisioning of CPE is still a nightmare in comparison to DOCSIS. PPPoE is not a good solution, IMO - it's arguably better than nothing but you shouldn't have to rely on the customer supplied equipment being configured correctly to just auth to the network - that's the job of the ISP CPE. It's not even that hard of a problem to solve in the grand scheme of things. On 10/13/2012 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well yes it is, but I believe the cable industry has it setup the best. It's easy for the end user to BYOD and the ISP remains hand-off. The WISP industry makes it difficult to do so. Currently everything I do is NATed at the CPE, but I'd like to make that optional, not a requirement. Obviously for enterprise\wholesale level connections I do something different, but there's too many hands involved to do that for residential at this time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:51:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion... For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for provisioning the radio..It currently shows it to be on their todo list. As for your other item, I believe DHCP relay is built into the new firmware . As far as NAT is concerned, it has it's place. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 tel:305%20663%205518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 10/12/2012 10:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I want to see the removal of doing anything other than DHCP to the client's device. The CPE radio pulls it's rate-shaping information from RADIUS and allows any number of DHCP clients on a per-CPE basis to pull a public IP. An ISP doing NAT is just silly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:16:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers NAT at the at a couple of towers, but not at the CPE. On 10/11/2012 6:52 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE has it's own public IP? On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote: We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any good reason to NAT there. On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote: We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the customers router. He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router. Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be double natted when they hook up their routers? Or does it not matter from the customer experience? Thanks ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 tel:%28920%29%20351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
This is true. If there were only some software company that would come up with a way to make this easier and add some level of security into the mix :-) Perhaps I have said too much ;) -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
I pretty much say 'meh' to that. What it really means is that a smart person can probably quickly find a way to exploit your network because everyone is reinventing the wheel and making a lot of mistakes doing it. I get what you're saying but I don't agree that it is a good reason for lack of standardization. Imagine how nice it would be if you could just hook up an SM and have the following things happen: Customer plugs in any device and it just works (no calling you to have you help configure PPPoE, authorize their new MAC) Customer loops their network and it doesn't break stuff beyond the SM Customer can't do stuff beyond the SM even though it's not running NAT (e.g. ARP poisoning) Rate limiting, etc, is standardized in the SM This is a small subset what you get with a cable modem, and a cable modem is not a (at a high level) complicated or expensive device. On 10/19/2012 1:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The opposite of convenience and standardization. You do things your way, I do things my way, another guy does things his way - makes it hard to jump from network to network from a white hat or black hat perspective. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: What builds security? On 10/19/2012 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It does build a security, though. Security = 1/convenience*0.72 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Mike, I completely agree and I think it is a goal the WISP industry needs to work towards - the provisioning of CPE is still a nightmare in comparison to DOCSIS. PPPoE is not a good solution, IMO - it's arguably better than nothing but you shouldn't have to rely on the customer supplied equipment being configured correctly to just auth to the network - that's the job of the ISP CPE. It's not even that hard of a problem to solve in the grand scheme of things. On 10/13/2012 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well yes it is, but I believe the cable industry has it setup the best. It's easy for the end user to BYOD and the ISP remains hand-off. The WISP industry makes it difficult to do so. Currently everything I do is NATed at the CPE, but I'd like to make that optional, not a requirement. Obviously for enterprise\wholesale level connections I do something different, but there's too many hands involved to do that for residential at this time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:51:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion... For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for provisioning the radio..It currently shows it to be on their todo list. As for your other item, I believe DHCP relay is built into the new firmware . As far as NAT is concerned, it has it's place. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 tel:305%20663%205518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net On 10/12/2012 10:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I want to see the removal of doing anything other than DHCP to the client's device. The CPE radio pulls it's rate-shaping information from RADIUS and allows any number of DHCP clients on a per-CPE basis to pull a public IP. An ISP doing NAT is just silly. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:16:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers NAT at the at a couple of towers
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
On 10/19/2012 1:48 PM, LTI - Dennis Burgess wrote: don't know why you would let the customer equipment auth. our network all auth is done at the CPE that we control. A lot of people are enabling public IPs at the premise by having the customer router engage in PPPoE with the ISP concentrator. That's one scenario in which it happens. -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
Yeah.. that's the solution most WISPs are forced into. Would sure be nice to do it without NAT. On 10/19/2012 1:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I have all of that now. I NAT the CPE. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: I pretty much say 'meh' to that. What it really means is that a smart person can probably quickly find a way to exploit your network because everyone is reinventing the wheel and making a lot of mistakes doing it. I get what you're saying but I don't agree that it is a good reason for lack of standardization. Imagine how nice it would be if you could just hook up an SM and have the following things happen: Customer plugs in any device and it just works (no calling you to have you help configure PPPoE, authorize their new MAC) Customer loops their network and it doesn't break stuff beyond the SM Customer can't do stuff beyond the SM even though it's not running NAT (e.g. ARP poisoning) Rate limiting, etc, is standardized in the SM This is a small subset what you get with a cable modem, and a cable modem is not a (at a high level) complicated or expensive device. On 10/19/2012 1:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The opposite of convenience and standardization. You do things your way, I do things my way, another guy does things his way - makes it hard to jump from network to network from a white hat or black hat perspective. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: What builds security? On 10/19/2012 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It does build a security, though. Security = 1/convenience*0.72 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Mike, I completely agree and I think it is a goal the WISP industry needs to work towards - the provisioning of CPE is still a nightmare in comparison to DOCSIS. PPPoE is not a good solution, IMO - it's arguably better than nothing but you shouldn't have to rely on the customer supplied equipment being configured correctly to just auth to the network - that's the job of the ISP CPE. It's not even that hard of a problem to solve in the grand scheme of things. On 10/13/2012 8:55 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well yes it is, but I believe the cable industry has it setup the best. It's easy for the end user to BYOD and the ISP remains hand-off. The WISP industry makes it difficult to do so. Currently everything I do is NATed at the CPE, but I'd like to make that optional, not a requirement. Obviously for enterprise\wholesale level connections I do something different, but there's too many hands involved to do that for residential at this time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:51:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers While this is your opinion, others have a different opinion... For what is it worth, It would be nice to have Radius attributes for provisioning the radio..It currently shows it to be on their todo list. As for your other item, I believe DHCP relay is built into the new firmware . As far as NAT is concerned, it has it's place. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 tel:305%20663%205518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net mailto:supp...@snappydsl.net On 10/12/2012 10:50
Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
I went through a lot of grief with 5.x in general. I have a variety of boxes running 4.11 through 5.9 across the network and there were a number I upgraded to 5.x that I had to downgrade back to 4.x because they kept freezing. Required a trip to the site to power cycle to fix them. They were, in essence, configured identically to other boxes but some were fine, some weren't. I even have an x86 box running 5.0beta6 that has been up for probably a year and a half now.. no problem. No idea if it is a hardware issue or configuration issue but, other than the IPs on the interfaces, the boxes I had were configured basically identically. I'm not really familiar with the particular unit that you have but if it will work on 4.x code, try it at 4.17 and see what happens. Most of my 4.x tiks have 100s of days of uptime. On 4/26/2012 3:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Right now Winbox is locked up and webfig/webfox is being difficult. Come on, Mikrotik... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The one that I am using now was one that I bought. So either I'm 2 for 2 with bad ones or Mikrotik has problems. Chuck has 5.14 working so I will try that and hopefully my uptime doesn't exceed his. I'd like to see 40 days of uptime. A week would be a step forward at this point. On 5.7 currently. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Chris Hudsonch...@htswireless.com wrote: Yeah, Josh I don’t get that. I’ve got at least a half dozen at in various locations, and have had no problems with them. Order a new one and chunk that one. I still haven’t found an antenna to use as an external on those.. Chris From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers Free one from Vegas died. Bought one and it reboots every few days. Not customer ready. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 26, 2012 3:19 PM, Blake Covarrubiasbl...@beamspeed.com wrote: Is anyone utilizing RB751's for this role? If so, are they reliable? I've thought about using them since they can easily be managed remotely by our staff via Webfig, or the API. -- Blake Covarrubias On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:40, Chris Fabiench...@lakenetmi.com wrote: We use TP-Link WR340G and can usually get them for about $20 shipped. Just a basic G router, but adequate for most customers/houses. We have over 100 in the field and only 1 bad one in about a year of using them. Used to use Linksys and Netgear, had 3-4 times the failure rate on those. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Darin Steffldcsho...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you include them in the install as I do? I currently have a batch of 10 Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some problems. Could be a bad batch. I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with external antennas and pretty good reviews. TP-Link TL-WR841N What are you guys using? -- Darin Steffl ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4960 - Release Date: 04/26/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Yeah, and that's the thing I don't like about very specific questions because, honestly, who cares if you do as long as you understand the concept. If I'd say to someone 'what's the subnet mask for a /25' or something like that and they answered 'I don't remember off the top of my head but I can figure it out in 2 minutes if you give me some paper or a subnet calculator' I'd check it off as 'passed' - same deal with things like the Cisco questions if they answered 'Umm, I'd do show ip ospf then tab a couple of times until I found the right command, I don't remember exactly' Troubleshooting questions are the gold ones, I don't remember off the top of my head all the syntax of how to build an access list to control prefix advertisement through BGP on a Cisco but I could tell you what you need to do to do it and I think that is way more important in a hire - do they know concepts and can they figure stuff out. On 2/29/2012 5:54 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: I always liked situational troubleshooting ones because I use a subnet calculator :P On Feb 28, 2012, at 23:37, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if you're hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level tech support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like: What is a subnet mask? If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask? If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and broadcast IP? Name one usable IP in this range. Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people break out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they know how but lets you know they learned it in a book, they don't do it regularly. Not good or bad just useful info. The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found useful, lets you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You could probably expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, connected user has 4 bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you start troubleshooting?) I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how to subnet but what you really want is someone with a good logical brain for solving problems. I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you see the status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so important if you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general questions in that case (what does cost do in an OSPF, for example.) How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an Ethernet interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus points if they know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more about if they know how and they can tell you.. double bonus if they end with 'and then I get out my tester and make sure the cable is good before I plug it in').. what is the difference between single and multimode fiber.. Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal with on a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. If I couldn't, I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the scenario type questions are by far the best. Someone who has done their A+ might memorize a bunch of data but they can't always put it into practice. So, I'd just lay out 10 problems you've had to solve or try to brainstorm a few and write them down from simplest to hardest. If they can't answer the first 2-3, you're probably done. The NAT one was a good opener (web server on private IP, why can't external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like computer X is plugged into a switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask 255.255.255.128, why can't he ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128? Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite Android 'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them loose and not too stressed out. I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end a lot of the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure out someone's technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is figuring out if they are going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months. *From*: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent*: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with those questions to weed out the first set! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both? I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask' or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?' A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know. On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 tel:317.831.3000%20ext%20211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if you're hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level tech support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like: What is a subnet mask? If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask? If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and broadcast IP? Name one usable IP in this range. Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people break out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they know how but lets you know they learned it in a book, they don't do it regularly. Not good or bad just useful info. The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found useful, lets you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You could probably expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, connected user has 4 bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you start troubleshooting?) I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how to subnet but what you really want is someone with a good logical brain for solving problems. I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you see the status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so important if you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general questions in that case (what does cost do in an OSPF, for example.) How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an Ethernet interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus points if they know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more about if they know how and they can tell you.. double bonus if they end with 'and then I get out my tester and make sure the cable is good before I plug it in').. what is the difference between single and multimode fiber.. Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal with on a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. If I couldn't, I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the scenario type questions are by far the best. Someone who has done their A+ might memorize a bunch of data but they can't always put it into practice. So, I'd just lay out 10 problems you've had to solve or try to brainstorm a few and write them down from simplest to hardest. If they can't answer the first 2-3, you're probably done. The NAT one was a good opener (web server on private IP, why can't external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like computer X is plugged into a switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask 255.255.255.128, why can't he ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128? Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite Android 'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them loose and not too stressed out. I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end a lot of the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure out someone's technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is figuring out if they are going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months. From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with those questions to weed out the first set! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge. The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat, Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU, Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word. So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X
Re: [WISPA] Website owner
Lookup the IP of the website through ARIN (just nslookup www.site.com), see who the IPs are assigned to. If they are sub-assigned to a smaller ISP, it should tell you that. Contact the ISP, explain the situation. Then it will depend on them. Hopefully it is a smaller shop and not GoDaddy or NetworkSolutions or some huge hosting place because they will probably have some huge pain in the ass process to get the sites released. If it's someone local, you might be able to reason with him. On 11/2/2011 2:27 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: I know this is not a WISP issue per se. In our local area there was a network admin for a large company who on the side setup about a hundred websites for local small business and individuals. Last month he took his wife's life and then killed himself. No other family left and no one to handle his affairs. His Clients are coming to me and asking how do I get control of my website. They had no agreements and no proof of ownership other than the dead mans handshake. What steps can be taken to recover these sites? What is the best way to research and find where they are hosted, not just the registrar? Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 Powercode ISP Billing and Network Management [www.powercode.com] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT
I can probably help you if you send in a network diagram to supp...@powercode.com with a quick rundown of what you're trying to acheive On 10/19/2011 4:45 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Ok, after talking to imagestream, they say they have gotten this same question now twice within a week, it seems to be related to the complex nat table rules that powercode executes. So I will revise my question, has anyone gotten aircontrol to work successfully with powercode using iptables in advanced scripts? If so how? Many thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT If it times out you have a firewall in between. Or since you are NAT'ing you need to dst-nat the port to your server. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: I ssh'd into a radio and tried the command: telnetip of AC 9080 Nothing. Is that the proper command? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Aircontrol for UBNT On 10/19/2011 09:17 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Admin Tab -System Settings -Air Control Server Address Make sure this is an IP address. If not then your CPE will fail to talk to your server. It obviously needs to be the wan port of your router. Just as a quick test, you can ssh to a managed Ubnt device, and run the following... telnetAir Control Server Address 9080 GET /enter enter If you see a HTTP header response, then you're good. If you get a blank stare, then you have a firewall problem, such as what Ryan alluded to. -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 Powercode ISP Billing and Network Management [www.powercode.com] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!
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Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
We use Intermapper but The Dude works too. Intermapper is less flexible but a little easier to setup and maintain, especially for less technical people (we have our tech support people adding customers, etc a lot) - Reply message - From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 12:43 pm Subject: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org We use Mikrotik's The Dude. To accomplish what you are asking, we setup Parents to each node. Now, if the core router is down, we don't get an email for each AP, switch, ups, EMU, or camera, but we get notified that that tower's main router went down. Basically, now we only get the individual towers that are down, and maybe backhauls to/from each one. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi Ed I was looking also for something that sends one report email in case of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state change when occurs. anybody has found something with this approach? Thank you Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services. Ed Spoon Manager of Internet Services triparish.net http://triparish.net / cajun.net http://cajun.net Member: FISPA / WISPA Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 Computer Sales Services, Inc. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the unstability of the version Do you have it in production without any issue? Thank you Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the problem is! *--- **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_** **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com//* *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? We use PRTG, The latest one. We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff alerts us via email and text message. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 *From*: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi all I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. Nagios or similar? any hint would be appreciated :) thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax
I am shooting through a hill and a forest, about ~2.5miles with 3.65GHz. The link was marginal at 900MHz, I really did this one as a test to see if 3.65GHz could handle it. I am using one of the KPP reflectors on the Nanostation as a test. It is linked up with a noise floor of -95 at about -85 to -90dB. Pretty horrible. But I get about 3Mbps throughput. I have another customer with a lot of foliage but not such a nightmare situation. 900MHz was linked at about -75ish, 3.65GHz is linked in the low 80s (-82 to -85ish). This is without a reflector, just a straight NSM365. Customer gets about 5Mbps x 1.5Mbps. I don't think it is great at dense penetration but we've seen it work OK with a low noise floor in areas that were previously required to be 900MHz. On 6/22/2011 10:27 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: How does the Ubnt 3.65 perform where going thru light foliage perhaps only one or two trees? What kind of throughput? We are thinking of switching some of our 2.4 over to 3.65 because of interference issues. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax
It wasn't working at the time. I don't know if it was a signal issue though, this guy just ended up being in a good spot to beta test worst case 3.65GHz scenario. On 6/22/2011 10:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: What was the signal of the first link in 900? On Jun 22, 2011 11:41 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com wrote: I am shooting through a hill and a forest, about ~2.5miles with 3.65GHz. The link was marginal at 900MHz, I really did this one as a test to see if 3.65GHz could handle it. I am using one of the KPP reflectors on the Nanostation as a test. It is linked up with a noise floor of -95 at about -85 to -90dB. Pretty horrible. But I get about 3Mbps throughput. I have another customer with a lot of foliage but not such a nightmare situation. 900MHz was linked at about -75ish, 3.65GHz is linked in the low 80s (-82 to -85ish). This is without a reflector, just a straight NSM365. Customer gets about 5Mbps x 1.5Mbps. I don't think it is great at dense penetration but we've seen it work OK with a low noise floor in areas that were previously required to be 900MHz. On 6/22/2011 10:27 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: How does the Ubnt 3.65 perform where going thru light foliage perhaps only one or two trees? What kind of throughput? We are thinking of switching some of our 2.4 over to 3.65 because of interference issues. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET http://CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com mailto:si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax
I tested by driving my car about a mile away from the tower and holding an NSM365 through the sunroof of my car. I was at ~-75 or so. I was pulling 18Mbps x 19Mbps at 10MHz channel width. Granted this was the only SM connected to the AP at the time. On 6/22/2011 10:52 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: In a LOS situation with say -70 or so what kind of throughput with UBNT 3.65? Also on the FCC Registration do I file as Common Carrier, Non-Common, or Private? Thanks, Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:41 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 Airmax I am shooting through a hill and a forest, about ~2.5miles with 3.65GHz. The link was marginal at 900MHz, I really did this one as a test to see if 3.65GHz could handle it. I am using one of the KPP reflectors on the Nanostation as a test. It is linked up with a noise floor of -95 at about -85 to -90dB. Pretty horrible. But I get about 3Mbps throughput. I have another customer with a lot of foliage but not such a nightmare situation. 900MHz was linked at about -75ish, 3.65GHz is linked in the low 80s (-82 to -85ish). This is without a reflector, just a straight NSM365. Customer gets about 5Mbps x 1.5Mbps. I don't think it is great at dense penetration but we've seen it work OK with a low noise floor in areas that were previously required to be 900MHz. On 6/22/2011 10:27 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: How does the Ubnt 3.65 perform where going thru light foliage perhaps only one or two trees? What kind of throughput? We are thinking of switching some of our 2.4 over to 3.65 because of interference issues. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
