Re: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread TekHitsHarder
With these mp3 players, you could do midi quite easily (well for the consumer) and match effortlessly (even though would take some of the fun out of djing, as well as some frustration -- for me at least). well isnt that the point of dj'ing? fun and frustration?

Re: [313] Dancefloor friendly?

2000-11-30 Thread debonair
thank you, i think i just might try some booty in da mix. sounds very dancefloor friendly every detroit record has some soul for the dancefloor... ...well, nearly every detroit record. have fun and experiment in da mix, and push tha wurlitser mentality to da kerb.. don't create

RE: [313] Track Id

2000-11-30 Thread Conway, Simon
guns 'n' roses - welcome to the jungle ? fab...your man in rome wrote: i was at the whisperMinistry of Sound/whisper this weekend and in the back room they were playing some slamming deepe house and tech-house..it was pretty good anyway. They played this one song with the

Re: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread TekHitsHarder
In a message dated 11/29/00 6:03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hmmm... I'd say that turntables will go the way of the guitar (that they've replaced). Sure guitars are still played, but are our kids going to be right into what we listen to? How many people these

Re: [313] trading on napster

2000-11-30 Thread FRED MCMURRY
Where is the skill? Fred From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aziza vasco [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] trading on napster Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:30:09 -0800 h, here's an issue I was talking about today with some friends... There is now a program out that

Re: [313] trading on napster

2000-11-30 Thread darw_n
Where is the skill? That's what my friends were saying, but there is one way to really make it an art... with this, you could feasibly create symphonies with dance tracks, have 20 tracks going within a minute or less (I think this is where Hawtin is heading), and it wont sound garbled,

Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing

2000-11-30 Thread FRED MCMURRY
I do think it will be a while before anyone is able to do the tricks ala Claude Young, DJ Craze, Kid Koala, Scratch Pickles, Cox, any other turntablist. Digital still doesn't have that sound that vinyl has. It's hard to fake it. When anyone starts talking about a well worn format going away I

Re: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread Peter B Leidy
With these mp3 players, you could do midi quite easily (well for the consumer) Can we please be careful about using the term midi? Midi has nothing to do with .mp3 technology whatsoever. I see lots of people making this mistake. Midi provides no definitive sound characteristics, and is

Re: [313] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Mixes...

2000-11-30 Thread R Vincent
i agree whole-heartedly! Rolando's remix is especially impressive. The UR remix is somewhat repetitive but it still has some classic detroit elements to it that make it very alluring and even mysterious. these records make an amazing addition to any detroit tech-lovers collection detroit- we so

[LONG] Possible Futures (was Re: [313] digital mixing/trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Chris Ege wrote: The point that everyone's missing is that a better solution can be devised. True, vinyl is still the best solution. But we're quickly approaching a point where it won't be anymore. it won't be long till someone comes up with a truly elegant and

Re: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread darw_n
: jeff mills- metropolis As I said before, I just got this CD, and I have to admit, it is near close to brilliant, although, I am having trouble seeing about half the tracks as movie scores, but the use of sounds in some of the more dancy tracks is stunning to say the least. I don't have the

Twonz on Groovetech/track ID

2000-11-30 Thread hans kaufmann
One damn fine set check out the archive from Nov 22 in the San Francisco Archives. I love that opening track Interview I think it's called anyone know who did it. ___ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet

RE: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread Batory, Jason
Not to boost my own theory here, but Mills captured, to me, the sounds of what toneshifting sounds like in these three tracks... Have you listened to any of his Purposemaker releases? There are some amazing sounds here which I believe are the essence of your theory. At least this is the stuff

Re: [313] Redefinitions

2000-11-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Call me dumb but I never wonder how it is that Mills music is considered in such theoretical terms, even he speaks of it in this way. I guess if I composed I would be very intuitive and mood-based and think not in terms of theories but emotion and experience. Not that it would like conventional

Re: [313] Redefinitions

2000-11-30 Thread Cyclone Wehner
That didn't make sense at all. Sorry I have a temperature, apparently, and am downloading the wrong words from my memory!! Enuff posts for me today! Here it is again. Call me dumb but I always wonder how it is that Mills' music is considered in such theoretical terms, even he speaks of it in

Re: [313] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Mixes...

2000-11-30 Thread scott mcgill
Somebody said that the Andrew Holland Infiltrator mix was hard work or sumtin. I thought that this was a very approachable reworking myself. Respect. On UR, does anybody know of any other material by Chuck Gibson besides the Perception track on Interstellar. Oh and any stuff by Gerald Mitchell

Re: [313] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Mixes...

2000-11-30 Thread Dave Clark
Gerald Mitchell is not Wildplanet, he's from the US and WP is from Sweden. Wildplanet is Simon Hartley I think. My favourite Gerald M. is M3 on Metroplex - Celestial Highways. Came out around the same time as the original Jaguar, stringy soulful d-techno. Dave --- scott mcgill [EMAIL

RE: [313] Kraftwerk Expo 2000 Mixes...

2000-11-30 Thread Patrick Wacher
Somebody said that the Andrew Holland Infiltrator mix was hard work or sumtin. I thought that this was a very approachable reworking myself. Respect. I really like Andre's mix, it's really dark and has some great beats to it. On UR, does anybody know of any other material by Chuck Gibson

Re: [313] Dancefloor friendly?

2000-11-30 Thread Sakari Karipuro
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Jon Schoning wrote: If yes, can someone point me to the direction of some essential tunes every detroit techno DJ must have? transmat, metroplex and red planet series, that's _all_ you need... ;) i think, this is still a matter of opinion, so go to the record shop and

Re: [313] bill vanloo / dj marathon: new mix

2000-11-30 Thread Phonopsia
This mix is excellent. You even get to hear the results of two 313ers making music together on the last track. It's weird hearing the Sutekh track at 33 too. All sorts of tones jump out that aren't there at 45. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [313] Dancefloor friendly?

2000-11-30 Thread darren kernyansky
i have been djing for quite a few years, and have been fortunate enough to rock dancefloors around the us as well as europe. i believe you are missing the whole point of djing. if you are at home and you feel like dancing chances are someone else would to. the only trax essential to any dj

The future of booty? :)

2000-11-30 Thread Otto Koppius
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/11/30/adult/index.html Otto

Re: [313] The future of booty? :)

2000-11-30 Thread jim proffit
Otto Koppius: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/11/30/adult/index.html It's a revolution: EROTIC STYLE of music ($54286.78) ;) Proffit _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :

Re: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread Jonny McIntosh
When the MP3 revolution comes, you can send your unwanted vinyl to me - don't burn it after some baseball game :) Jonny.

(off-topic) finnish techno 10 years party

2000-11-30 Thread Erkki Rautio
jamonrevenge fri151200 @ säätämö, turku, finland feat. the who's who of finnish electronic scene... more info: http://www.jamonrevenge.com e. rautio, also known as pHinn * the webmaster of pHinnWeb - the old skool, the nu skool * * and the pHuture skool of Finnish electronic music *

Re: [313] Herbert Mix CD

2000-11-30 Thread Jay Cee
Sorry for the late reply. B-day this weekend and only now recovered enough to go trough my 313 mailbox. (had a blast at a verry big commercial party but with Kevin, Derrick Stacey + Luke Slater playing in the Technoroom and Bob sinclar Roger Sanchez(a big ego but does know how to rock a big

RE: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing

2000-11-30 Thread Topping, Micah
Oh, and your record will never crash, or you needle with never have an irq conflict... yes but your digital file won't get a scratch in it, and it won't be a 500 press run that is almost impossible to find... now thats good and bad i dont think digital file mixers/tables are going to be too

RE: [313] Twonz on Groovetech/track ID

2000-11-30 Thread Richard Hart
Does anyone know the track that comes in afterwards ? have heard this track b4 but have absolutely no idea what its called !! Rich -Original Message- From: hans kaufmann One damn fine set check out the archive from Nov 22 in the San Francisco Archives. I love that opening track

Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing

2000-11-30 Thread Paul Hudson
Why has no one mentioned the sound quality in this debat (or have they and I've missed it). For me, the most important thing about music is not the ideas behind it, not who's written it or from where, not what format it's on or how easy it is to mix. The most important thing, for me anyway, is

Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing

2000-11-30 Thread Sakari Karipuro
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Paul Hudson wrote: Vinyl sounds better than CD and CD sounds better than MP3. While the popular media say Mp3's sound as good as CD's, I don't think anyone believes them do they? I mean, just play a CD next to a high quality MP3 on quality Hi-Fi. They tow don't even

The Loot I Picked Up in the UK - WARNING: ACTUAL 313 CONTENT!!! [LONG]

2000-11-30 Thread Phonopsia
These are the records I picked up, all of which I'm very happy with (possibly the first time I ever had no buyer's remorse once I got the wax home). All of them are excellent. If some of the reviews are shorter, it's b/c I've only had a chance to listen to them all twice (once on my Mom's stereo

Re: [313] The future of booty? :)

2000-11-30 Thread Phonopsia
If I ever sellout, this would be the way to do it. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee

Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing

2000-11-30 Thread Nick Walsh
It depends on how it's been coded. 256kbps isn't too bad... the problem is that you have to have a really high level of kbps to get anything like something worth purchasing which obviously means massive files. I don't see why anyone would wanna BUY mp3's so they're not really commercially viable

Re: [313] Redefinitions (was: Re: trading on napster)

2000-11-30 Thread TekHitsHarder
hahahha--im with u on that 1 johnny. lmfao mike

Re: [313] trading on napster / digital mixing

2000-11-30 Thread Sakari Karipuro
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Nick Walsh wrote: It depends on how it's been coded. 256kbps isn't too bad... the problem is that you have to have a really well, if one wants quality, one buys audioactive production studio. otherwise, lame does almost as good job. occasionally better, depending on the

The Loot I Picked Up in the UK - WARNING: ACTUAL 313 CONTENT!!! [LONG]

2000-11-30 Thread Phonopsia
These are the records I picked up, all of which I'm very happy with (possibly the first time I ever had no buyer's remorse once I got the wax home). All of them are excellent. If some of the reviews are shorter, it's b/c I've only had a chance to listen to them all twice (once on my Mom's stereo

Ford Focus Request

2000-11-30 Thread kenneth taylor
Hi everyone, A while ago someone posted a link to what I think was a car mag that had a photo of the now infamous Made in Detroit Ford Focus. Can anyone repost that or pass it on to me? What station is airing the commercial in the Detroit area? Thanks Ken CJAM 91.5 FM WIndsor/Detroit

Was (Not Was)

2000-11-30 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Got this from Juno: VARIOUS: Disco Not Disco (compiled by Joey Negro/Sean P; incl. Liquid Liquid, Was (Not Was), Dinosaur, Indian Ocean, etc.) (Strut) 3xLP: (STRUTLP 008) [11.99] unmixed CD: (STRUTCD 008) [13.50] Half shameless plug for Sean P this (who works with me, but at the front

complex mixing

2000-11-30 Thread atomly
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 09:53:33AM -0800, joshtwentythree wrote: this i a conversation I've had with a friend several times, I think that there will always be vinyl Dj's, because there is such a strong Dj culture, but I feel that slowly but surely all Dj's will be moving towards a more de9

Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread Diana Potts
thing I wrote. (yes it still regards music) http://www.neksis.com click on the how to be a DJ Ho piece there's still some changes that are needed, but its basically done. ENJOY diana _ Get more from the Web.

Re: [313] Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread dj revolver
Great article, and hilarious - you're one sassy female ;) From: Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Another funny Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:14:19 thing I wrote. (yes it still regards music) http://www.neksis.com click on the how to be a DJ Ho piece

Re: [313] Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread * ani *
this is funny as hell! and let's give a round of applause to all the females that *aren't* dj hos!!! (313 list girls included) ani record time [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq# 33610265 ph 810.775.1550 fax 810.775.5830 - Original Message - From: Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org

Re: [313] Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread tristan watkins
If you are a DJ that happens to bag Ms. Potts, make sure to get up before she does in the morning and start cooking bacon. Tristan --- Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thing I wrote. (yes it still regards music) http://www.neksis.com click on the how to be a DJ Ho piece there's

Re: [313] Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread Diana Potts
Tristan Watkins will be getting beat down for using bag diana potts in a phrase. thank you diana From: tristan watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Another funny Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:37:24 -0800 (PST) If you are a DJ that

Re: [313] Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread Kent williams
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Diana Potts wrote: Tristan Watkins will be getting beat down for using bag diana potts in a phrase. thank you diana So will it be wrong to ask for pics of you Diana to see if we'd hit it?

Re: [313] Another funny....

2000-11-30 Thread atomly
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 02:38:14PM -0600, Kent williams wrote: to see if we'd hit it? Hahaha! -- :: atomly :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly

digital

2000-11-30 Thread philip
with this, you could feasibly create symphonies with dance tracks, have 20 tracks going within a minute or less (I think this is where Hawtin is heading), and it wont sound garbled, this is the future of mixing, where (finally) the DJ is considered a true composer not just a disk-jockey. In

herbert track

2000-11-30 Thread Michael Kim
i just recently got the Dan Bell Tresor mix. i HAVE to get that track by Matthew Herbert, Dropped; does anybody know which 12 it's on? Mike _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download :

Re: [313] herbert track

2000-11-30 Thread Christian Bloch
Mistakes Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go - Original Message - From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 11:24 PM Subject: [313] herbert track i just recently got

Re: [313] herbert track

2000-11-30 Thread Christian Bloch
ah, sorry i read your mail wrong, i don't which one that track is off of Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go - Original Message - From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent:

Re: [313] digital

2000-11-30 Thread Dale Lawrence
records are becoming keys on a piano as opposed to songs in and of themselves... ? yeah Yes, that is what DJ's want you to believe. In order to further take credit for the creative inspiration of the producers, who, without which,

Re: [313] Ford Focus Request

2000-11-30 Thread Glyph1001
In a message dated 11/30/00 11:09:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi everyone, A while ago someone posted a link to what I think was a car mag that had a photo of the now infamous Made in Detroit Ford Focus. Can anyone repost that or pass it on to me? What station is airing the commercial

Re: [313] digital

2000-11-30 Thread darw_n
records are becoming keys on a piano as opposed to songs in and of themselves... ? yeah Yes, that is what DJ's want you to believe. In order to further take credit for the creative inspiration of the producers, who, without which, they would have nothing but empty turntables, and god

Re: [313] digital

2000-11-30 Thread Dale Lawrence
This is totally wrong, at no time to I dismiss producers as pointless, they write tracks, so do I. But the DJ can do other things with those tracks in which 1.) the producer of that track didn't think of 2.) make a much larger picture... I can understand the input and skills of

Re: [313] digital

2000-11-30 Thread Kent williams
Much of the vaunted 'creative DJ'ing' is largely a phenomenon of the past. Producers make records that are made for DJs, so the only real skill required is beat matching. That's why any tracks I do for vinyl will have mixin, track, and mixout sections. If I don't do that, I'll pay the price in

Re: [313] herbert track

2000-11-30 Thread Scott Stone
It's on phonography. Originally on the Never Give Up 12, also on 'we all need love' C5. Scott - Original Message - From: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 4:32 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [313] digital

2000-11-30 Thread darw_n
Why does creative DJing only have to revolve around tricks, wouldn't mixing three tables for five minutes simultaneously while doing effects yield something totally different that what the artist intended? And I will further that by saying that I think that's more creative than juggling a 30