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Corporate sponsorship on that scale was definitely a drawback. The festival
has already outgrown itself. There were too many people and that may not
have been the case absent the advertising overload. Sunday is a day I will
never forget. There were at least 10
speaking of richie, i think two of his best parties were the cd release
party for consumed and another one in toronto called ritual submission a
few years ago. autechre was also there. did anybody else on the list go
to that party? i have some specific questions about that party.
thanks,
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still great irony ;)
Scotto wrote:
did anyone else get the impression Juan was laughing in the face of Ford
with what he did to No UFO's during his set last night? or do you think
it
was really just technical difficulties? odd that it was just during
*that*
track that the tables
i personally think that advertising and music are like water
electricity. no matter how good the music is, the freedom of it's art is
completely ruined by swirling and flashing ads.
i have a real grudge against commercialism, and unless it's an ad for an
item that truly helps you(like a corn
I beg to differ. Now I don't like ads ALL over the place. But lets face
it, nothing is free, and as long as they don't bug the hell out of me , I
don't mind an ad here or there. I think Ford did a good job, flashing the
Focus around but not bothering the hell out of you by seeing Ford Logo's
That was an amazing party! Detroit Contemporary was hot---literally. The
music was sweet and everyone was dancin' there asses off!!! I picked up
some sweet unreleased material as well. New Theo!!!
On Tuesday, May 29, 2001, at 02:53 PM, Matthew Perkins wrote:
Everyone's favourite
I believe it's the 1990 retroactive rec. version.
funky disco and break samples (martin circus, love thing???-song)with
cycling flute riff.
on the flip side, there is a basic channel remix.
it pretty much sounds like it.
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I believe it's the 1990 retroactive rec. version.
funky disco and break samples (martin circus, love
Beside the big booming system up front, which we walked right past, or
avoided entirely by coming down the side alley, Ford was out-of-sight
out-of-mind. But the video crap was a bit annoying. By the way...during
Inner City, the smiley face and Remember 1989 (or was it '88?) across the
screen.
I guess Boy George is out of a gig.
MEK
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This was lifted from a BBS, so I don't have a link to
the original article:
DJ Robot Turns the Tables
By Katie
However, the Bacardi crap was pissing me off! I don't ever want to see that
f*cking commercial again!
MEK
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So what did you guys think? did the Ford over do
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I had a wonderful weekend, but one thing ruined it...
I was walking down vendor isle with my fiancé, and there was richie being
nice and signing stuff. So, I went up to him, and got my girlfriend a copy
of Theorem's 'Cinder' signed to her along with a +8 mouse pad. She was
enthralled, and this
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After the hail storm, we were walking back to the car, and this
thuggish raver kid straight up ran up, and yanked the record and mouse
pad away.
Wow, that really sucks... I can't believe people are that pathetic-
well, I guess I can when it comes to thug ravers.
I beg to differ. Now I don't like ads ALL over the place. But lets face
it, nothing is free, and as long as they don't bug the hell out of me , I
don't mind an ad here or there. I think Ford did a good job, flashing the
Focus around but not bothering the hell out of you by seeing Ford Logo's
Does anyone know if the Ford Focus website has the DEMF webcast archived? I
missed several sets and would like to see/hear them.
MEK
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Christian
Yes! Absolutely... danced from open to close. In dire need of hip
replacement. Did you find your way to the 3rd floor? Nice breakbeats up
there and much cooler temps. Security was a bit freaky tho... I guess
someone had snuck back into the further reaches of the building. I saw two
people come
I thought it was a pacifier too, but in fact, it's a molecular D(z^2)
orbital! /chemistry geek
:D
n8
I thought one of the video images looked a lot like a morphing pacifier. It
was ironic b/c of the ravers there and the idea of having a pacification
tool that resembles a pacifier.
Tristan
Couldn't get this in this morning because I was rushing out the door to
catch my plane (and why I was doing that without any sleep at 6 am?
Read further!)
Monday was the strongest day musically, in my view; not too surprising,
but I really didn't get the slack feeling of Saturday. Gilb-R played
So after a number of provocative conversations, and reading the updated page
at http://laresistancedetroit.com/ I'm sold on the petition to have Carol
Marvin replaced. If you haven't checked the new essay, I recommend doing so.
I know it's still based on heresay and speculation, but in the world
The commercial stuff was relatively innocuous and predictably clueless.
The loops they were running on the screen at the Cpop stage were especially
dumb. Like Dan, I was amused/disgusted by the Bacardi thing, but at least
they were running live shots of the performance quite a bit of the time
at
Someone actually asked me who Inner City was! I was dumbfounded...all I
could do was sing a couple of tunes to them. No luck. No knowledge.
I was soaking them up though (need to tell my friends back home). Once in a
lifetime experience. Plus Byron Stingely was a nice surprise (eventhough his
The No UFOs part of the video was kinda dumb but also funny. Anyone
know what sci fi flick that was from?
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I think the thing about Sunday night is that most everyone got what
they were looking for -- Jak, Sound Signature, Planet E, 430 West,
Teknotika, etc. A huge grand slam for Detroit!
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i was at that autechre party...
At 7:52 PM -0400 5/29/01, Dharma Fowler wrote:
speaking of richie, i think two of his best parties were the cd
release party for consumed and another one in toronto called
ritual submission a few years ago. autechre was also there. did
anybody else on the
I have a little gripe about Johnny Q dropping the Electric Avenue remix,
and that is I know he *must* have the original (as ahem I do), and that
would have been perfect instead of almost-nearly-perfect :)
Gene Farris dropped the same remix at the KMS party last night also.
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While waiting in the Planet E All Access party line, someone turned around
and asked this question to a group of us. I really started to wonder how
much the additional advertising and hoopla was bringin in such people
without any knowledge of Richie Hawtin.(They were seriously asking) I tried
Richie has updated his excellent letter from last week with a few
more thoughts:
i'm saddened to hear only silence from a great many of the
artists whose voices would hold so much weight in such a
situation.
www.m-nus.com
erm, my bad -- same letter as before. Go read it anyway.
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Here are the links to the audio - hopefully they will stay up or get
archived somewhere else. All are about 10-11 hours long.
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=913438segment=44902
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=913442segment=45150
Question someone on another list saw Laurent Garnier Carl (Craig--Carl was
truly inspired this night!) Also he saw an amazing live PA by someone
??, and it was one of the best he's ever seen. If anyone has the flier
or knows who this was, let him know too
JayCee
Should have stayed away from that crack-house...
JayCee
Nah stupid joke, i would have tossed him over the bridge after the
mousepad..
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Damn, I must say that party was pretty off the meter... !!! I personally have
not
been to a jamm that's snapped me out like that in a long time!
Larry Heard was bangin' the BOXX, dude!!! Deep, hard, funky Chicago styled
house!
Yeah, it was hot as hell in there, and totally packed out. People
I couldn't tell you how many times I explained who in the world Carl
Craig was in response to my i support carl stickers. I guess there
actually IS a world outside of email lists :-) Sometimes I find myself
getting lost in the illusion of everyone being familiar with what we take
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I was watching web cast on day 3 and it stopped after
a bit of juan's set. What happened? Did Derrick May
play?
Also,
Who was the band Inner City was using. Were they
local session musos. And more importantly who were
those funky Dancers, they sure had the moves.
Thanx
Sam
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He could of been referring to the planet E party...in
that case it was probably Kenny Dixon Jr. and Taj
Bell. Perhaps the reason he didn't know is because
they performed behind a screen. Truely,truely a treat.
d
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: that case it was probably Kenny Dixon Jr. and Taj
: Bell. Perhaps the reason he didn't know is because
: they performed behind a screen. Truely,truely a treat.
i could barely deal with missing DEMF. i'm
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I was very impressed by how low key ford actually. Yeah, they had two
focuses at the front of the festival. But there weren't any Huge Focus
signs all over,
If I remember correctly, the main stage was lined with millions of them on
the first night. They said Detroit techno - Ford Focus.
Honestly, this must be a holiday celebrating that beauty that is the
test-ignore email that so wonderfully and tastefully fills my inbox.
in which now i am a hypocrite because of this very email.
so what's with john's obsession with playing headhunter from front242?
Hello folks!
I bought the new CD by Jeff Mills Every dog has its day today!
There are some unreleased tracks on it that don´t appear on the two vinyl
versions. Especially the second track is great. Jeff Mills´ first track with
vocals.very beautiful and deep.
IMO, the whole Every dog
Probably something similar to Derrick May's obsession with French Kiss by
Lil' Louis.
so what's with john's obsession with playing headhunter from front242?
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can anyone remember what year front 242 first released that track? - i remember
buying it as a kid (after seeing them on some obscure bbc tv music show) and i
think it was possibly the first electronic/techno record i owned after
listening to nothing but hiphop for years...but i could be
Does anybody know what the last three trackes Shake dropped before Dan Bell
came on. I'd try to describe it but I suck at that, so if you were there and
know I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
Charlie
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while we're on the topic, after his set on sunday, i asked him what the
first track was that he played for his encore - he said it was 'white
falls' by li'l louis. i this still available? i must get it.
as i suspected when i first heard richie use that 'i called u' bit at
platinum, when
That must have been somewhere around 87. i saw them live during the front by
front tour. that show had an impact on my whole live and still has. it was
an amazing show where the came up, the venue filled with smoke and they had
these red handlasers and where 'scanning' the audiance...truly
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Jayson B. wrote:
So what did you guys think? did the Ford over do it? Was it super
commercialized to the point where it ruined the phatty underground vibe?
To Ford's credit, they had excellent DJs in their focus tent all weekend,
including DJ Horsepower, and Reggie
ha..thats exactly it - like i said the first time i SAW them was on TV, and at
the time i was a 14 yr old hip hop kid with no appeciation of electronic music,
but on the TV they showed them starting their live set EXACTLY how u describe
it - and it just blew me away. it reminded me of Public
as i suspected when i first heard richie use that 'i called u' bit at
platinum, when he used it at jak this weekend, he played from a
sampler, or perhaps a cd player - couldn't really tell. same thing
with that 'i won't hurt you' vocoder voice.
Is richie ever going to actually perform a
speaking of Front 242 was there an afterhours party at the old city club?
(it's the club below the leland hotel...errr ramada)
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Jayson:
so what's with john's obsession with playing headhunter from front242?
george.jones:
Probably something similar to Derrick May's obsession with French Kiss
by Lil' Louis.
Oh, he has an obsession for that? He should make a RMX of it, that would be
something:) What else he plays to
ive seen richie perform live - very intense. nearly all jammed live on classic
roland gear. his DJ sets always seemed an anti climax to me after that...
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as i
Derrick Carter
(monday night? or sunday night?)
Dennis
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i gotta agree that dancing next to Boo Williams was pretty funny...
anybody know
On Wed, 30 May 2001, jim proffit wrote:
Jayson:
so what's with john's obsession with playing headhunter from front242?
george.jones:
Probably something similar to Derrick May's obsession with French Kiss
by Lil' Louis.
I understand I feel love was one of the classics the Detroit boyzz
I'll (try to) keep this short...I'm exhausted. I've
been to boot camp and back.
Being ten feet from De La Soul-I was like a pig in
sh*t. It's a once in a lifetime experience that I will
tell people about until I die.
Inner City live was amazing, and nearly
spiritual.Worth the cold I'm going to
I was under the impressions it was Kenny LARKIN, not
KDJ any confirmations?
md
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Carl (Craig--Carl was
truly inspired this night!) Also he saw an amazing
live PA by someone
??, and it was one
Hi Peepz,
It's been haunting me all day...
I missed the DEMF, which is bad in itself, but all that talk about 'White
Falls' by Lil Louis is getting me pissed.
Sure enough there was a bootleg a few months ago which ripped that track, but
that ain't got nuthin' to do with the original track
On Tue, 29 May 2001, darw_n wrote:
This completely upsets me, because when is the next time that I can get that
record and that mouse pad both with richie signing it to my girlfriend
again?!?!?
Write to m-nus -- I bet they'll replace it!
http://www.axemusic.com/links/manufacturers/menu_links/electrix_home.htm
Repeater is the next step in the evolution of loop-based music production.
To the studio musician, it gives a power to arrange audio that was normally
reserved for MIDI. Live musicians can safely sample and integrate loops
ive seen richie perform live - very intense. nearly all jammed live on
classic roland gear. his DJ sets always seemed an anti climax to me
after that...
I guess i should have refined my question a bit more:
when's he going to start playing live more often?
they presented him with a plaque/framed thing right
before inner city played. they also did this for juan,
kevin and derrick.
the end is a relative term in this case-i believe.
d
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When did the city present Carl with a plaque? I saw
him on stage during
my original message didn't come through.
The repeater is the main piece of gear that Richie used to do the mind-warp
versions of spastik and the whole prince 'i won't hurt u' and 'i called u'
bits.
oh yeah, and that super twisted nitzer ebb too.
jim
I want to say, War of the Worlds. it looke like it
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The No UFOs part of the video was kinda dumb but also
kenny larkin doesn't have an afro the size of the train station. it was most
definitely KDJ.
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I was under the impressions it was Kenny
purely live, i.e. no turntables... not very. not the direction he's
heading... but there seems to be more and more + in the de9+, so
it's just semantics. sorta.
At 3:14 PM + 5/30/01, Jayson B. wrote:
ive seen richie perform live - very intense. nearly all jammed live
on classic roland
(with apologies to Boards of Canada)
A year ago at this time, I was returning from Tokyo.
I sat down and brought up the Freep Web site.
A few moments later, I'd read quotes from Otto, seen numbers like 300,000
and 500,000, and by the time I reached the picture of the huge mass of
humanity
I love you all.
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I am really excited about this and i'm sure all of you will be as well if you
are a part of this list.
My partner and I booked Titonton Duvante for June 25 at Rumors Lounge on the
corner of University BLVD. and Goldenrod in Winter Park, FL.
We are also currently in negotiations with Trip
no time for recovery.
CEX CELLS
Thursday, June 14th
The Detroit Contemporary Gallery
Doors open at 8pm, 5141 Rosa Parks Boulevard
(313)898-4ART
http://www.detroitcontemporary.com
Performing Live PAs:
Cex (tigerbeat6)
Telefon Tel Aviv (nothing/hefty)
Stars As Eyes (tigerbeat6)
Bill
Just wanted to add my impressions into the heap.
I think the first thing I had to realize was to give up any hope of seeing
every DJ/act that I wanted. My attention span is only so long, and 12+
hours of quality music is too much :)
Anyway,
standout sets-
saturday: Terrence Parker, Kooky
I was one of the fortunate few who was able to jump the railing before the
security dude blocked it off. the first ten minutes was a struggle to get
close enough to jump to the floor. well worth it. tight set. stuck around
for jay denham. also really nice. bass was too high on the
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I actually made a recording of Prefuse 73 so i'll see how it comes
out, but realized i didn't want to shlep my dat around the festival
all weekend.
How did you like his set? I thought that the beats were kind of boring
and Mr. Lif's mic was WAY too loud...
saturday
It was Common Factor doing the live P.A.
ja
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Question someone on another list saw Laurent Garnier Carl (Craig--Carl
was
truly inspired this night!) Also he saw an
who was the special guest at Planet E's All Access party?
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who was the special guest at Planet E's All Access party?
ken
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saturday night we hit the 7th city party which was much
fun. Can I just
get a verification who was giving the PA sometime
around 4 am in the
bigger room?
Sean Rudiman and Morgan Geist both played live... I
think Morgan Geist
was the one at 4,
Well this message really doesn't want to come over!
All of the really distoreted and twisted effects during richie's performance
were done with the electrix repeater. I forwarded the info on it earlier.
Sorry if this ends up coming over three times.
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Yeah. This was Metro Area live from what I was told from a
few people. Metro Area = Morgan Geist + Anyone know?
Darshan.
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I died and was reborn all in one night.
Larry Heard
Kenny Dixon Jr.
Brett Dancer
Theo Parrish
Rick Wilhite
I was so soaked with sweat
when I got back to the hotel
I had to iron out my money
just to dry it off.
PS. new whites on FP on their way too.
// giles
3 hours of marco carolla on 3 tables, 1 1/2-2 hours of ben simms on three.
punisher on 3 for 2 hrs. damn. treatment was the place for me. Too many
good things happned sunday. wished i coulda been at about 3 or 4 of those
other parties: eyes only, jak, planet e, etc etc. i need a clone.
Kenny Dixon Jr. This was a short, but oh-so-sweet live set
in-between Mike Clark and Laurent Garnier's DJ sets.
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who was the special guest at Planet E's All Access party?
ken
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common factor didn't perform at the DEMF, he did
perform at the Planet E party though.
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It was Common Factor doing the live P.A.
ja
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Anyone have contact info for Tadd Mullinix? Please e-mail me
privately. Thanks.
www.ghostlyinternational.com
That's the label he's on, so they should be able to get you in contact
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he tore it up last year...and my boy told me he was at the demf this
year...anybody check him out?
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Yeah. This was Metro Area live from what I was told from a
few people. Metro Area = Morgan Geist + Anyone know?
Metro Area = Morgan Geist and Darshan Jesrani.
I remember Darshan from my high school days in upstate NY. A good friend of
mine
used to date his sister, and I remember he
I was not a tech-head by any means when I used to hear mills on JLB, but I
do remember a few occasions of Art of Stalking, (as well as other early
transmat stuff - like Icon, and Groove), and I remember some metroplex
stuff. I have a few mixtapes of his from around 95 or so, and they are
Actually it was KDJ and Norma Jean Bell
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He could of been referring to the planet E party...in
that case it was probably
Metro Area = Morgan Geist and Darshan Jesrani.
one of the top three moments for me was this live PA. i could barely stay
awake, but once the art of hot started kicking in, i knew i made the right
choice to stay. they need to come back here soon.
I remember Darshan from my high school days in
HEAR!!..HEAR!! Norma Jean Bell...D. Wynn and the S. Signature partayThe
HIGH points of the whole weekend IMHO ;)
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Yup, two different ladies. Norma Jean Bell is the QUEEN and only DIVA of
Detroit house. She is an AMAZING saxophonist, composer, producer AND
vocalist. Taj is a singer and songwriter...talented no doubt...but has a
Lng way to go before catching up wif Norma
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alrighty. my dufus bad.
d
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Yup, two different ladies. Norma Jean Bell is the
QUEEN and only DIVA of
Detroit house. She is an AMAZING saxophonist,
composer, producer AND
vocalist. Taj is a singer and songwriter...talented
no doubt...but has a
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