No one gets anywhere being bitter, and poking fun at 'fair game(see
below)' for whatever reason is just tired and reactionary.
I love white girls...especially my mum.
-Original Message-
From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 4:48 a.m.
To: 313 list
Pepe Bradock - Un Pepe En Or Vol. 2
Women Beat Their Men (k.b. records)
-drew
whats up with these?
same version of women beat their men as the one I know (cevin fisher?)
new pepe? Im out of it (all), but the man writes some sick tracks.
-joe
I think getting lawyers involved would be WEAK. he's got to expect this
kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy demand.
its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth.
people have the technology and the willingness to get the music out no
dont know where his home town is, but assuming its detroit, I remember some
rumor of him saying he would not play in detroit for a while because about
10 people showed at the last show he'd played at in detroit (I was there, it
was great music but he was obviously annoyed about the promotion and
since when does simply having a different preference in music or aspects of
a performance make you a hater? what happened to personal opinion?
again, music is art, and the appreciation of art is bound to individual
subjectivity. telling someone their opinion of a piece of music or
performance
Your kidding right? Your statement doesn't justify someone stealing
music and making money off of it. Obviously KDJ doesn't want to press
alot of records at a time, and he does re-release records. Try either
buying them when they are released, find and buy them used, OR try
buying them when
it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it
happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited copy
releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead of
leaving it to the bootleggers.
I MAKE music, Erin, of course I dont
of course, with this in mind, I'm not going to care very much when he starts
complaining about being bootlegged again, he's not learning anything from
these situations, evidently
Just a little side note... KDJ and other artists are not obligated to
distribute ANY of there music if they so
I already beat you to the punch 10 years ago. Sorry, bud. :D
/0 writes:
I'm working on what I hope to be the worst song of all time. its suck will
unite us all. :))
-Joe
well he can certainly release 5 copies of a track if he wants... he wouldnt
be the first musician to lose money to idealism. I hope he doesn't regret
it down the road.
thanks for your perspective Erin,
-Joe
- Original Message -
From: Erin Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it
happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited
copy
releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead
of
leaving it to the bootleggers.
this whole blame-the-artist thing
No blame was laid on anyone; at no point did he say that it's KDJ's fault
for this bootleg's existance, and that it's ok to sell illegal copies of
music. What he said was that supply and demand exists. When demand exceeds
supply, things happen. He was just saying you'd think KDJ would stop
Clinically Inclined
4 June 2004
Fridays 9:30pm -12:00am, 89.3 FM WNUR Chicago
http://SonicSunset.com -- download show as .MP3
With Dave away at Mutek this week, Matt pilots the mothership solo.
Back from the Movement '04 Festival in Detroit, with some classic and
new joints from the vinyl
I think that music is a very pure form of human emotional expression and for
me, that product (in this case, the music I make) is cheapened when I attach
a price tag to it in any way. performance is a whole different story.
when i first was confronted with this choice (release or not), I was
Hey there! Here's a link to their audio page which lists all of the
available vinyl. They did release a CD which might explain the confusion,
but not available now.
M
http://www.theoliverwhofactory.com/Audio.html
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Oliverwho_Factory-_The
From: Thomas D. Cox,
cough Because cough we don't review our own reviews stuff splutter It
was a joke cough
8/6/04 6:44 PM Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cough why would you need another copy for review if you already have
it? splutter :)
Jason
On 8 Jun 2004, at 12:44, Martin Dust wrote:
Read the message
Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America must be a f***ed
up place racially if t-shirts like that are sported without anyone asking
questions
-Original Message-
From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:44 PM
To: 313
Subject: (313)
The Unabombers are playing in Melbourne on Friday night. Can anyone tell me
anything about them? The only thing I know about them is that they're from
Manchester, and they charted the Moxie edit of Talking Heads at the top of
their 5. Should I go see them?
Cheers
Chris
Hey Erin,
All I can say is, read my complete comment before you start making unfounded
accusations. I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone
bootlegging. I'd have to be pretty stupid to imply that bootleggers are
justified and I'm certainbly not that stupid or unreasonable.
Arrrgh *stretches*, god I feel 'cosmic' today.
anyone want to borrow any cough medicine? seems there's a nasty bout about.
I love it when it kicks off here, even Ken's got the camel today.
I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool.
Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to
New...
Vince Watson - Parallels
Bit faster than his usual stuff
http://www.vincewatson.co.uk/
Lands//. - Antitainment
Dark electronics for the soul...
All the other new stuff is here Alex
http://www.littledetroit.net/Reviews/menu.php?sm=2004-06
Martin
9/6/04 9:46 AM [EMAIL
That mix of vince 03 is the nuts ...I reccomend it , its funky as hell..any
tracklist? or am I being thick?
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 11:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Cc:
9/6/04 10:12 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk
That mix of vince 03 is the nuts ...I reccomend it , its funky as hell..any
tracklist? or am I being thick?
Thick I think ;)
http://www.littledetroit.net/Downloads/VinceWatson-PeaktimeDJMix.php
-Original Message-
From: Martin
Pepe Bradock - Un Pepe En Or Vol. 2
new pepe?
No, this is an old one. However there are some excellent new Pepe Bradock
remixes of Candi Staton out this week on Honest Jon's. It's record of the
week at Piccadilly: http://www.piccadillyrecords.co.uk/
hi,
for those who would like to hear dj bone's set from last saturday @ fluid
http://www.3voor12.vpro.nl/rebelbass
scroll down and hit the audio icon ;)
regards
aida
ha ha blush
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 12:19
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: (313) new bits
9/6/04 10:12 AM
He's got some great stuff coming on Transmat and Emoticon this year as well,
well worth a listen - all due September time I believe...
Martin
9/6/04 10:18 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED]@blueyonder.co.uk
ha ha blush
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed
Haven't we discussed the whole issue of bootlegging just a couple of months ago
with the other KDJ bootleg? Can't we stop this, it is like a digital deja-vu,
same arguments again, people who care about an artist right fot intulectual and
artistic property and people who don't care about it.
He's got some great stuff coming on Transmat and Emoticon this year as well...
It'll actually be Headspace, not Emoticon... HS 016 will be the four-track
'Lost Episodes' 12, HS 017 is the 'Sublimina' CD/2xLP. Samples will be
online at http://emoticon-headspace.net very soon.
We also did a
Exclusive Detroit Import / We picked this up while visiting the Detroit
Electronic Music festival..Painted Pictures is a band put together by Malik
Alston?This album is a collection of nice new jazz tracks and more house
workouts?The band is tight the feeling is right! This cd comes with mixes
by
I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool.
Jesus, I'd been here 5 minutes, someone had asked to 'buy' my bike (so he
got the hump when I told him to do one)
and I saw some gippo trying to jimmy a phone box open (in broad daylight in
the middle of town)
5 minutes, I kid you not.
oi! half of my family are from Liverpool
yeah, that figures..; )
yeah my essential new record is the Shake mix of Osborne 'Bout Ready to
Jak'now there's some real rave tackle for ya alex.
Now I've been to the tresor club, I'm all about the rave tackle.
Jesus, that vault there! w.
dark business. I enjoyed
though, been a while since I went to a rave.
and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK
edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing
caned by most house DJs at Movement.
You can have mine (if I've not already
Now I've been to the tresor club, I'm all about the rave tackle.
Jesus, that vault there! w. couldn't see my hand infront of my face.
Bicknell main room at Lost vibe going on. Dark dark business. I enjoyed
though, been a while since I went to a rave.
I have to say Alex this was my best gig
I have to say Alex this was my best gig ever becuase it was an ultimate
dream come true and I loved
the feel of the dark vault and its sweaty walls, its such a contrast to
upstairs and if Tresor ever goes it will be
a tragedy thats for sure.
I'll bet Ian!
yeah, that's some dark ass action they
Crap! It's finally happened!! i knew one morning I'd wake up to find that
suddenly everyones talking like Brad Pitt in the movie Snatch and I cant
understand a word of it!
;^)
sean
on 6/9/04 6:59 AM, robin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm on the offensive too, I'm in fcuking Liverpool.
wicked!! sounds like you had a ball man and to me .thats what Berlin is all
about :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 09/06/2004 13:56
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Cc:
Subject: RE: (313) new bits
anyway, anyone got any new records?
anything good?
My 'record of the week' is Adam Johnson's 12 on Narita:
http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF147896-01.htm
The b-side tracks in particular are absolutely amazing.
Also seriously digging Pepe Bradock's remixes of Candi Staton...
My 'record of the week' is Adam Johnson's 12 on Narita:
from the clips, that sounds hot.
thanks for the tip.
need_to_pester_piccadilly_for_one
Check A1 out though, is that not just phylps track 2 with something else
over it?
_
Just a quick reminder for 313 heads north of the border (or who fancy a trip
to sunny Glasgow this weekend) - Scion Tikiman will be doing the 'arrange
and process Basic Channel' thing live in the Traxx room at the Arches on
Saturday. Joe Claussell will also be playing in the Melting Pot room.
http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v99/grant23/larkweb2.jpg
Damn, I'm away that weekend!
This summer I am again doing my weekly radio show at WBAR, NYC 87.9 FM. My
timeslot for this summer is Saturday, 8pm to 10pm.
The show will be available through the FM frequency only on or about the
Barnard and Columbia campuses in NYC. The show is otherwise available
through an MP3 stream on
someone should bring Kelvin over to the UK, i much preferred the stuff
he played (and the way he did it) over the Movement weekend.
robin...
Tom Churchill wrote:
http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v99/grant23/larkweb2.jpg
Damn, I'm away that weekend!
While we're on the subject of Scion and Tikiman,
They'll be playing a free outdoor gig in Dublin as part of our summer
series. They'll be playing on July 2nd in Dublin's meeting house square and
then also playing again at D1's Model One later that night
Thanks
Eamonn / D1
On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:41 AM, Robert Taylor wrote:
Jeeez - I was just puzzled by it and asked about it - America
must be a f***ed up place racially if t-shirts like that are
sported without anyone asking questions
Sherman, set the Wayback for 40 years ago ...
The coloured [sic] people have a
he's got to expect this
kind of thing when he's unwilling to release in numbers that satisfy
demand.
its like holding yum candy just out of reach of kid with a sweet tooth.
Ah sorry, no it isn't.
First of all they're not little kids that have no idea of right or wrong.
PERIOD.
The people
Hi Greg
Who's Sherman? Now I know what it's like to be lost on American humour!
-Original Message-
From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:08 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
On Jun 9, 2004, at 9:41
Ooops - not meant for the list - sorry!
-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:12 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) please god, end the White Girls thread
Hi Greg
Who's Sherman? Now I know what it's like to be lost on American humour!
Well, since it's out here now - I'll explain who Sherman is.
Sherman is Mr. Peabody's boy assistant.
Mr. Peabody is a professor of history and science.
Mr. Peabody is also a dog who has the ability to walk bipedal.
Together they would travel back in time to talk about history.
hope that
Ken Odeluga wrote
I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone
bootlegging.
Agreed Ken
If I'm short on money then, by using the same argument that some are
making, the government should just expect me to go out and print up my own
money that looks exactly like their money.
What is it with you guys?
All he said was that in limiting the supply, it creates a bigger market
for the bootleggers.
I would have thought this was pretty obvious, so why the controvesy?
He doesn't say that it's ok to bootleg because there's a market does
he!!
I was discussing with my mates the
sorry for lateness on this.
yeah definitely worth cheking out...they play a nice selection of stuff
from old disco to more hip-hop things to kdj/theo type stuff...
one of their clubs (electrik chair) is rammed every month so they're
doing something right
alex: can u think of any detail
All he said was that in limiting the supply, it creates a bigger market
for the bootleggers.
I would have thought this was pretty obvious, so why the controvesy?
He doesn't say that it's ok to bootleg because there's a market does
he!!
hmm maybe it is the limits of online communication, but i
Luke Unambombers used to play keys in the New Fast Automatic Daffodils and is
now Only Child, who did U Bring Me Vibes with Amp Fiddle. And they stuck Think
Twice on their last comp - which brings us comfily back into 313 territory! ;)
-Original Message-
From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL
If the government prints more
money then the money will be worth less and the country will get poorer
and you won't be able to buy a loaf of bread with it. So not quite the
same as pressing more records up really as their loss in value won't
stop anyone from buying bread.
You missed the
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And then to have KDJ EXPECT - meaning to consider
reasonable or due...
A bit of a semantic sidepoint here, but to expect something
is going to happen isn't the same as accepting that the coming
event is reasonable or justifiable.
For
we're one step away from the nazi theory
Okay, this thread is offically dead.. :)
Sven
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-- Original Message --
From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone
bootlegging. I'd have to be pretty stupid to imply that
bootleggers are
justified
who cares if bootlegging is justified or not? its
-- Original Message --
From: Ken Odeluga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I said myself that the dearth of supply does not justify anyone
bootlegging. I'd have to be pretty stupid to imply that
bootleggers are
justified
who cares if bootlegging is justified or not? its
Or as Dylan Thomas once said:
Somebody's boring me ... I think it's me.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 5:57 PM
To: Sven Venema
Subject: RE: (313) 'Moodyman': 'The Bootleg Is Broken'
Okay, this thread is offically dead.. :)
Right on. I'd say the horse has been flogged into something
http://UndergroundResistance.COM/transmitter.html
Short video of the start of the Tokyo Timeline show, and a longer
snippet of them doing Final Frontier.
Can't really see much worth a sh!te, but it still makes every hair
on my neck stand on end to hear it ...
- Greg (who'd give anything for a
- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The above text is from rushhours site.
Has anyone heard it? Might I like it?
i picked up the white label 12 in detroit, very nice vocal house
mixes of two tunes, and two downtempo numbers. very clean
Check it...top stuff
http://ruben.fm/ghetto.htmlÂ
Im sorry, reading the archives does not sort out my opinions on the matter.
I think you're being somewhat unreasonable expecting the list to never touch
on the same subject twice :)
I'll shut up now
- Original Message -
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
and one i haven't got yet that i passed up when it came out is that DK
edit of SoulCentral's cover of String of Life on whistlebumpbeing
caned by most house DJs at Movement.
There is a white label floating around with 'Stringz' in writing on the
label. Seemed to be two deep house mixes
the live set at the picnik was ctually Troy Pierce (M-nus/Run Stop
Restore)
herbert played soem great records
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, LR T wrote:
I will preface this by saying that personally, I loved it but many others
were highly dissapointed and thought it was a disaster. I totally did not
anyone catch smith and hack? I'd really like to catch a live act by them,
although some of the errorsmith live stuff I have is somewhat gutwrenching
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LR T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, June
I've been dropping that Shake remix a lot -- I love the grungy midrange and distorted kick.that Osbournermx record isvery good-- each cutslamswhilemaintaining its own distinct personality.
I haven't bought too many new records lately, mostly filling holes inmy italo and acid-house collections
I was at Tresor for the first time back in Feb, and it also took us an hour or two to figure out there were more rooms.The basement is *insane*, has to be one of the most intense techno-related experiences anywhere. Sounds like I need to go back and do a bit more exploring; I must have missed
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