Re: (313) Eddie Fowlkes - Welcome to my world

2007-03-27 Thread Brian \balistic\ Prince
Yeah, been meaning to mention that one on the list. I like some tracks more than others, but it's Fowlkes through and through. - bp Jamil Ali wrote: Bought it off detroitdigitalvinyl (and will probably get the vinyl later). If you like Eddie I think you'll like it. It's funky as hell, and

(313) Troy Anderson?

2007-03-27 Thread Lee Herrington
Any of you downLow cats have Troy's contact info? I was listening to a Cityboy EP on 1200 the other day, and I realized I had not communicated with him in quite some time. I think the last we spoke he was down in Texas... big into mountain biking. Wasn't Troy supposed to record a dL006 EP as

(313) Fukhouse COMPRESSED Presents NAW - city saturate record release party

2007-03-27 Thread Neil Wiernik
Fukhouse COMPRESSED Presents NAW - city saturate record release party March, 30 2007 at Fukhouse COMPRESSED @ TOIBar 577A College St., Toronto, Ontario Cost : Free!! FRIDAY MARCH 30 2007: Fukhouse COMPRESSED @ TOIBar welcomes Noise Factory recording artist NAW - performing LIVE in

RE: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yep, I agree with Tom on that one. Switch everything else except your drum box and one synth and see what happens... -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2007 16:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) could change laptop performances

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread robin
Yes, but once again, advanced technology alone will not automatically imbue folks with creativity that was not there to begin with. absolutely. conversely, limitations of old gear don't always bring out the best in artists either. Just because a technology is available and inexpensive

(313) Millons of Moments

2007-03-27 Thread robin
A quick word about this new sublabel of Styrax (these people are my fave label setup at the moment). IMO if there's one Redshape release that you shouldn't skip it's the one on Millions of Moments (Mad Dog). Slow chicago influenced techno that breaks intoa breakbeat. Simple but

Re: (313) Millons of Moments

2007-03-27 Thread robin
As has been pointed out to me. The name of the track is Dog Day (at least I spell the label correctly in the body of my message!). I'll shut up now :) robin... A quick word about this new sublabel of Styrax (these people are my fave label setup at the moment). IMO if there's one

(313) 31st March ( This Coming Saturday ) Süd Electronic's 10th Record Release Party With Cassy , Portable Aka Body Code +++++ Many More

2007-03-27 Thread lakuti
Hi Folks A quick reminder about our 10th release party this coming saturday 31st March Süd Electronic's 10th Record Release Party With Cassy , Portable Aka Body Code + Many More We are still taking names for the £8 list . We will be doing so until 4 pm on saturday the 31st , so please

Re: (313) 31st March ( This Coming Saturday ) SüdElectronic's 10th Record Release Party With Cas sy , Portable Aka Body Code+++++ Many More

2007-03-27 Thread fab.
see you there lakuti!! (and you too Tristan!! ) fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: (313) 31st March ( This Coming Saturday ) SüdElectronic's 10th Record Release Party With Cassy , Portable Aka Body

RE: (313) 31st March ( This Coming Saturda y ) SüdElectronic's 10th Record Release Party With Cassy , Portable Aka Body Code+++++ Many More

2007-03-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
You'll also see me Fab, can't believe I've not met you yet (or least not been aware of it!) -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2007 14:54 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 31st March ( This Coming Saturday ) SüdElectronic's 10th Record

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thor Teague
If your argument is that gear doesn't make you creative or not creative, how can the next thing out of your mouth (or fingers, as it were,) be So you limit yourself to xyz technology ? Does gear matter or does creativity matter?

Re: (313) 31st March ( This Coming Saturday ) S üdElectronic's 10th Record Release Party With Cassy , Portable Aka Body Code+++++ Many More

2007-03-27 Thread Emile Facey - Plant43
And me. Haven't seen Tristan play out for ages, can't wait. on 27/3/07 2:55 pm, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll also see me Fab, can't believe I've not met you yet (or least not been aware of it!) -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely. conversely, limitations of old gear don't always bring out the best in artists either. i dont even think its all about old technology. i know people who made albums off of a sampling electribe and not much else. the tendency with computer

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
noodling around with mapping midi nonsense has nothing to do with performing music. Eh - neither does hooking up cables, tuning strings or any number of things which are analagous with any instrument.

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noodling around with mapping midi nonsense has nothing to do with performing music. Eh - neither does hooking up cables, tuning strings or any number of things which are analagous with any instrument. most of which are far more

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your argument is that gear doesn't make you creative or not creative, how can the next thing out of your mouth (or fingers, as it were,) be So you limit yourself to xyz technology ? Does gear matter or does creativity matter? if you have the

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
noodling around with mapping midi nonsense has nothing to do with performing music. === Eh - neither does hooking up cables, tuning strings or any number of things which are analagous with any instrument. === most of which

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mapping out midi in ableton takes literally 1 minute... you just assign parameters to knobs on a controller and keep them the same for the whole set. but what if you want to change it? or what if something starts going wrong and you need to fix

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 3/27/07, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mapping out midi in ableton takes literally 1 minute... you just assign parameters to knobs on a controller and keep them the same for the whole set. but what if you want to change it? or what if something starts

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intuitive for whom? i mean, plugging and unplugging 1/4 cables is not hard. nor is tuning a guitar (they even make devices that will do it for you so all you have to do is turn the pegs). replacing a drum head or something like that is a

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever blown an amp? indeed i have ;) How much experience do you have with 'real' instruments going funky or things frying in midstream performance? not a ton, but enough. the things that can go wrong (strings breaking, drumsticks

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Breinich
On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intuitive for whom? i mean, plugging and unplugging 1/4 cables is not hard. nor is tuning a guitar (they even make devices that will do it for you so all you have to do is turn the

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I'm totally confused. What the heck are you guys arguing about? the ability for technology to either enhance or hinder creativity and the ability to make/perform music. tom

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, Nick Breinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've watched friends restring their guitars while singing songs as much as i've seen someone rebooting a laptop. the laptop reboot is just more disastrous if you have made the choice to rely on it alone as your sole instrument. which is

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
Nothing I wish to waste any more time on. I understand Tom's point, but he needs to work on his analogies, which usually depend on everyone experiencing everything just like he does. ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay I'm totally confused. What the heck are you guys arguing about?

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i know what you're saying about dorking around on the computer. it takes time to get over the hump of mastering your gear (software or hardware) so you can enter a creative space and stop wasting time troubleshooting all the time. but i found the

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Breinich
On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, Nick Breinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've watched friends restring their guitars while singing songs as much as i've seen someone rebooting a laptop. the laptop reboot is just more disastrous if you have made the choice

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
ANYTHING can hinder creativity. It would be an exceptionally hard sell to prove anything can enhance it. How would you know what would have happened if you did or did not do 'x'? Or added (fill in the blank with love/hate gear)? By whose standards? Just because you think music is either

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread David Powers
On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noodling around with mapping midi nonsense has nothing to do with performing music. Eh - neither does hooking up cables, tuning strings or any number of things which are

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you think music is either already handbasketed in hell or on the way says nothing about what made it happen...it might have gotten stale with or without thechnology. There are plenty of records made without computers out there

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Martin Dust
Pint? Anyone? :) m

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
I already answered that. See below (i.e., you ASSUME technology is the culprit based on your stance (begging the question, as it were) - but based on what? You have no idea, really. What if he just plain ran out of ideas?). ta. j [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you think music is

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, have you ever programmed a digital keyboard from the 80's or 90's? yes, in fact i have a yamaha tx81z. which i almost never use because of its lack of ease. compared to the sh-101 which is probably the most intuitive synth i own, which

(313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Breinich
On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you think music is either already handbasketed in hell or on the way says nothing about what made it happen...it might have gotten stale with or without thechnology.

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already answered that. See below (i.e., you ASSUME technology is the culprit based on your stance (begging the question, as it were) - but based on what? You have no idea, really. What if he just plain ran out of ideas?). so the same thing

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Mar 27, 2007, at 13:26, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: so the same thing happened to him, aphex twin (who happened to regain it just in time to make the analord stuff), and countless other producers? and it all just happened to coincide with the change in the technologies used to a less limited

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, Nick Breinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only gear at fault is the human mind. i would wager that both aril brikha and photek are making exactly what they want to make. they could at any time choose any setup they like. instead of just making music, theyre worried about

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
Because you are committed to your position of technology as the problem. You believe if you ripped off all of his gear he'd make something you find more palatable? When you make the argument that of all causes of dilution technology is the chief culprit, it is incumbent upon you to demonstrate

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread David Powers
On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, have you ever programmed a digital keyboard from the 80's or 90's? yes, in fact i have a yamaha tx81z. which i almost never use because of its lack of ease. compared to the sh-101

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not the only coincidence though. There was a huge upsurge of interest in electronic music followed by a huge downsurge. All the guys who became stars had the whole star-thing happen to them. that is also true. though photek's decline

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you are committed to your position of technology as the problem. but the problem is, i only committed to that position as a result of seeing what happened as technology surged! not the other way around! When you make the argument

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Breinich
On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, Nick Breinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only gear at fault is the human mind. i would wager that both aril brikha and photek are making exactly what they want to make. they could at any time choose any setup they like.

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, your argument was about whether things were intuitive. Now you are saying it doesn't matter if things are intuitive. But it does matter because I can spend MORE TIME MAKING MUSIC and less time doing setup and unimportant technical

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 3/27/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you are committed to your position of technology as the problem. but the problem is, i only committed to that position as a result of seeing what happened as technology surged! not the other way around!

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Jamil Ali
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 3/27/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, your argument was about whether things were intuitive. Now you are saying it doesn't matter if things are intuitive. But it does matter because I can spend MORE TIME MAKING MUSIC and less time doing

(313) Troy Anderson?

2007-03-27 Thread Lee Herrington
Any of you downLow cats have Troy's contact info? I was listening to a Cityboy EP on 1200 the other day, and I realized I had not communicated with him in quite some time. I think the last we spoke he was down in Texas... big into mountain biking. Wasn't Troy supposed to record a dL006 EP as

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude seriously, I don't know who you've seen using software, but it really is that easy with a computer. In fact, these days I've been experimenting with literally writing new patterns on the fly, DURING my live PA in Ableton ... Once you have a

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread /0
tom, 17 emails from you today, 18 from the rest of the list combined. I didn't read them yet, but can I assume that you got your point across? - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: (313)

Re: (313) could change laptop performances

2007-03-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 3/27/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tom, 17 emails from you today, 18 from the rest of the list combined. I didn't read them yet, but can I assume that you got your point across? its a much better discussion when youre not involved, let's keep it that way. tmo